Game Awards and Creating The Shao Kahn and Diablo A.I Battle

Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Elder Trolls Gaming podcast. If you're new joining us, we are three brothers. We get together and we talk about gaming. We may also talk about tech and TV and movies and other really cool things too. I am taking East Johnna, I'm Nasty Night, and I'm dand off the wise. There you go, And today we're gonna be discussing some things. We're gonna be talking about a little bit about the game awards that happened this past couple of days. I think it was on when was it Thursday? Yes, some surprises, some some things maybe we we liked, some things we saw that were cool, some things that were not so cool. M Yeah, but yeah, we'll talk about that. But then also we're also going to be talking about our most recent AI fight, which was Shao Kan versus Diabo and the results and the results and talk about the art and and we'll do that a little bit later. But yep, that's it for the intro. So, I mean, it's getting near Christmas time, guys, and the holiday spirit, the holiday spirit has it possessed you? Has it possessed? It is upon us? I I zero decorating we haven't put anything up yet. It's fucking what day is it? You loser? That's part of the Christmas cheer, the twelfth? What is it the tenth? I have not. I've done some Christmas shopping. I got to do a little bit more. Still. That's on the calendar, my hypothetical calendar, because I don't make real calendars like an adult should put things on them. I just have a weekly planner for my lessons. That's it. I have a Zelda calendar. Legend of Zelda. Daniel. Do you have like one of those fucking books from high school still with the calendars in them that you write your little agenda? Oh today I'm doing this an agenda? An agenda? He doesn't do it, writes it down? No, I am. I Only the only organization I ever have for my day to day is my That would be cool though, for my for leads, but no, I just have my weekly planner, you know the ones that are like hour to hour time slots per day. That's what I use for my lessons. So I have who's coming, who needs a makeup? Who who didn't show up, who came whatever? Whatever. That's all I have. I don't have the month, they do view like day, they do makeup before they do their who's putting on their makeup before they do their lessons? No make up lessons giving, guys, I'm an esthetist, and you give you give makeup makeup lessons. I hate when people use their schedules in days, you know, when you like, I romote into somebody's computer and their calendar is just with just the day that's their day. I hate that. I can't stand that. I I have to see month, I have to zoom out and someone I would like to do you know what I mean what I can't fit everything on a fucking little square in a calendar, so I have to do the day to day thing. No fucking bothers. That just bothers me. I go in and everyone's like zoomed into their day. It's like by like ten minutes. I'm like, how do you look at this? The only organization I have? But I don't know I got I'm pretty much done while we did Mom and dads altogether. Don't really buy gifts for people because I don't like people. But the thing is usually Alma's gift is like given to her much earlier because she likes to purchase things before Christmas, as we know from the past. Yeah, events, she's made that miss so you're like, well, I'm going to give it your gift super early, so you know, fucking yeah exactly. Yeah. So we're going to the We're going to the spa. We're having a spa day on next week sometime. No, this this week, full day at the spa. I got. I booked her massage, sixty sixty minute massage. No. Then there's a new place that's kind of like Nordik, but it's not as packed. Oh, it's kind of less known. It's not as like super fancy, but it's pretty nice. Still. Where is it, Wakefield? No, it's in a hotel. It's in the hotel backyard of what the hell is it called keen Keyono Spa or something like that. It's right over the bridge. You don't have to drive to. Nordiak is always in Quebec. Yeah, I don't know, but they spoke English to me on the phone, which was nice of them, you know. But Yeah, we're gonna go there for the day. Then we're gonna come back and then I think we're coming to your place for dinner. Jonathan. If you haven't heard the plane yet, so you'll be barbecuing for me this week sometime. You know. There's like three feet of snow. I'm sorry, but yeah, that's that's her Christmas present. I've stuffed her stalking as well with a little bit of some knickknacks, and that's it. What about some patty wax? Uh later, patty wax? Whack your patty, you're tally whacker. Yeah, I definitely have to check some of that stuff off. I don't know. I don't think I've even thought about it. I'm you're a terrible human being. You know. I don't have our exchange gift yet. I got that done too, a gift exchange man. What a deal? Boys, what a fucking deal I got. You don't even know you know what I didn't. I didn't think of ninety nine dollars on sale for twenty Yeah, I didn't think they look at those. I'm like, how is this on sale for twenty dollars? And then I looked around on other websites and it was actually ninety nine dollars on the other sites, I'm like, how is this even ninety nine dollars? I'll be stealing that, Yeah, I'll steal it from you. I want I don't know, you might not want it. It's it's it's it's kind of cool. It's a useful thing that you know. It's not blankets wrapped in blank lugs, none of that shit. None of that shit, dougs wrapped in blankets. Yoh, last night? Did you see that? Those see the pictures I sent you last night that I made with that AI thing that I found. That thing is fucking cool. It's kind of ridiculous, it's super cool. I didn't see. There were too many messages. I don't believe. I don't believe that it's really like making that photo from what you're drawing. I think it's just like this looks like this photo I found online and it shows you a photo. It doesn't show you a photo. It draws it like it draws. It makes an image for you. And on my phone, my phone took a huge dump and like to get rebooted. Oh no, because it changes while you make lines, and while you change, it will change like it draws. It gives you an image of whatever you're drawing while it's going, but in like way better art obviously, And because you could just put like a blob for listeners. This is called draw fast. It's called draw fast dot tl draw dot com and you can basically upload an image or just start painting like a Microsoft paint style on the left and then on the right hand side, it will just create an image out of whatever the hell you're feeding into it. You can also add a prompt though a text prompt, so it knows more specifically what you're trying to draw, so it will show you more what you want to see. So without the prompt you might get something completely different. If I'm shitty at drawing, AI, I envision this better for me. I want something like this type thing, and you draw it next to it, and then it's like like this, it looks a lot better type thing. Yeah, just say like you want. And I don't think there's like there's copyrights or anything. I don't think there's copyright on it or anything like that. So you can say, you know, playing with fire Mario fighting Pikachum and just start drawing stick figures and it will give you some semblance of something on the right hand side, and it's it's super cool because it's like a water colory kind of art and I like the style, but you can also give it like tell tell it you want like anime, and it'll it'll change it kind of anime style. It was discussion a discussion in the Gaming Duo podcasts discord about if AI generated art is art and I'd like to have that discussion on here sometimes. But now, because I could go for hours about it, I would be down. That'd be interesting to make some thoughts about, to write some thoughts down me, I should say, yeah, well, in this case, it's kind of like you change one little line and it can give you something kind of completely different. So it's like, oh, but the good thing is the part of the image that you like, you can kind of highlight those on your drawing because it's all like vector like, you can highlight those and on this change those. So like anything you have highlighted and you start drawing and changing, it will only change that part of the image and the rest will kind of stay the same. So that's really cool. I was just super impressed with with it. It was very fucking cool. That's what pissed me off about making these images for these fights is that all I wanted to do is change something small and it would give me a completely different character, a completely different photo would be like, fuck my life. It's like, no, I just don't want him to wear a helmet, or I just want him to wear helmet, you know, and it'd be like, here you go, it's a completely different photo. Don't make shout a salt. Yeah, try it out. Try it out, even with your mouse in the browser. It's h And it worked on my iPad with my Apple pencil, which was really cool. So I was up late just fucking drawing and seeing what it was given me was it was sweet m noise. But yeah, that's pretty much it for me. Dan. Anything going on, No, I've just been tonnel visioned. I put out some posts on socials for lessons in the local area, and I still didn't get one of the posts approved. It's been two days now, so somebody and I already I already sent a message out to one of the admins. It's like, you know, I'm seeing all these other posts being approved, so if they don't get back to me, I'm just going to post it again on Monday or Tuesday and just keep doing that and spamming. They're stupid. But a couple of other local page hosts have been approved and I've already got like, man, it's crazy. The past two three days, I've had like five people in choir. So it's like, at this rate, if that many people inquire and actually sign on, it's like, you know, it's good business. So I'm just hoping that a lot of sug wants to learn how to play piano. You'd be surprised, man, would be very surprised, because I slay a guitar. It's not cool. It's not like a guitar, you know, Like, so what the hell? Well, I think it's because it's a better building block. It's a better building blocks for guitar feature instruments. Not the most efficient instrument to start learning music on piano is the I always call it the gateway instrument, just like a gateway drug, except I just said that I can't play piano. I don't think rewind rewind the tape back Tony. But anyway, yeah, you could see anything play with two damn hands. Man, it's visual. There's only on a guitar you got freaking five middle SE's. Five middle seeds pitch all up the front board like nobody's gonna remember that. No beginner is gonna be like, oh, so wait a minute, this note is also can be played right here in the exact same note on a piano guitar, right in the middle. It's but I find guitar is easiest to write songs on because you could easily just do the three four chord songs and make make a song. You can do the same on a piano and you just press literally pressing buttons. You're pressing buttons. I don't know the buttons on the piano that I can't get it. I don't get it, and they get a pedal, You got a pedal. But I can tell you it's even easier to write a song on drums. Yeah, I'm sure on one drum. Okay, this is the verse. Here's the chorus switched to the ride. Yeah. Ye yeah. So things are going really well, and so I'm hoping the new year. I mean, if I can get I think I've already got about ten students come January. And if I can get that in two and a half month, you know what what can I do in almost you know, in a full year, in a new year. So this is counterintuitive, Daniel. You're teaching children to not play games and then not grow up and listen to El Coatrol's podcast, Like, what is this you're working against us? Daniel should make a piano teaching game, you know, yeah, sure it exists, and then it just lets me out of fucking business, just drives you get for a piddly amount of money. Yeah, you make nothing on it. All I did was play video games and piano when I was young. So I turned out, all right, okay, let's get into game time. No, all right, welcome to game time. What's going on? You got some Yeah? I recently watched the D and D movie, uh, The Balls among Men or whatever, oh with Chris Pine, because I've been on such a Balder's Gate three binge, and I really enjoyed the movie. I thought it was fun, entertaining, It was good. It was exactly like you would see yourself playing the game, Like is it like you were in the game. They were naming all these places that were in Balder's Gate three, and like you could just picture I was there. Oh I know these characters or I know this place, and I know this these classes and all this kind of it. It was really really fun to watch, especially while playing Balder's Gate. I thought it was cool nice. I'm gonna watch it. Then it's good. It's not not amazing or anything, but it's funny, that's what you're saying. Yes, it's like my kind of movie. You know, it's not a film. You know, it's not a film, but it is. It's in this picture, a moving picture. But with that being said, I have been playing a lot more balder Skate. It is the best game. It is the best game, much deserved. It was all the wards like it's so fucking good. It's unbelievable how good this game is. The only thing that I would change. If they changed this, it would be a ten out of ten for you guys. If they changed this, a fucking fast forward button during the combat for the enemy moves or the enemy like the I thought there was like an enemy player moves. I thought there was like a skip or something. Fuck man, what Sometimes you get into a fight and there's like fifteen enemies. You're like yeah, yeah, uh, and I like do my move and I walk out of the room and I go take a shit, I come back still go on, Like fuck's sake, you know, Like that is so stupid that have like thirty two Yeah, Like why would they not just put a skip enemy movement button, just fucking put it in there, give me a break. That would be my only thing if they put that, because then you would miss like you would miss buffs and stuff. That's that's up to the player. Let the player decide that. Okay, Like, if I don't care about all these buffs and I'll just read them after that's what's been placed on my character, then that's fine. Give me the button to fast forward fifteen enemies movements please. So yeah, I concur. Other than that, Kirk, do you concur? I concur? I should have concurred? What did I concur? Other than that? Like, everything else in that game is so good. If I were to put more things in the game, I would have put more graphic sex scenes. I think it needs more more hard romance, like cyberpunk stuff, like cyberpunk kind of sex scenes. That would be cool. Pump up the romance. You know it's because you were just romancing the wrong the wrong person there, Yeah, maybe well I did do lizel and she was kind of freaky. Another thing I would have liked is a better quest tracking system, just a little bit more robust mm hm, because sometimes I completely lost where the fuck I was going, Especially when you've got thirty quests going on, You're like, what the hell? You can't go in the menu and say just track this, just show me this and where to go? Like where to go? Like I was trying to tell you, Yeah, and it does well sometimes that I'll have that, like you have to get here, but I'm not going to tell you how the fuck get here? Good luck, Like trying to go through the sewers to get to Ball's Temple to kill Oh my god, I was like, where the hell am I going? Like you have to go to certain sewer grades and go in there and then find a secret entrance like that bother me. Also, I'd like the ability to go back to any chapter and just run around and quest and explore. I'd like to do that, but right now I'm stuck. I'm stuck in Balder's Gate, like the city. I can't go back, you know. Yeah, well you're in the new the act that yeah, Act three, that's what I mean, the chapter act acting. I'd like to go back to Act two and just explore and ship. Can you do that after you finish the game? Yeah? See, I don't like that. When can you do that in any game? Can you do that? Like, what are you talking about? Any progressing the scory? Just go back. I just gotta have to load a load to save, but all my saves got deleted whenever that when I came back to it only had one save. So anyway, those are things I change. But the last couple of things I said aren't needed. The only thing that's needed needed is a fast forward button for the enemy enemy turns. That's what I want to say, right, So that would out of ten for you. Huh yeah, I think so. Wow. Everything else is glame. Everything else is like so superb so superbly done. It's it's so immersive. When I got into Balder's Gate the city, it was like a whole new game, like just everything going on, everyone living their lives, and you're just like, wow, I am in this city, Like it felt so good to just be in there and like exploring and going around and talking to people. You talk to anybody and they can talk to you. They're all voiced, Like how incredible is that all those people that you can talk to are voiced. Very immersive. That that blows my mind. It's really really really really cool. I'm very like you can do. You can do it. You can do everything, like anything you think you can do it. How do you want to take this character out? Or how do you want to take this boss out? Like just think about something and do it, you know, and it'll probably work. Like you're like, oh, what if I put Ice on this staircase, lured him up here and then proned him or whatever or got him out of his little Buffy has so he can't be moved, and then push him off the edge like that kind of shit you can think and do. It's really cool. It's really cool, really cool mm hmm. But yeah, it's much deserved of everything it's won, in my opinion. But we'll get to that. That's all I've been really playing. I want to finish that off. Finally, I think I'm on the fire. I think I'm on the last boss, I think. And I'd like to talk to Jonathan about how his ending went because mine is so obscure and random and I don't know, like, like, I don't know if I even like the way I went for the ending or mine. You finished it? Uh not yet. I gotta finish the boss. But like, how I got to this point is was a bit weird and unconventional. I'd say maybe actually to pay it again, it's really good. Other than that, I've bought a few games on sale for Switch. I got called to the Lamb and on the Switch Oled screen it looks incredible. It looks so fucking good on the Oled screen it's so bright and vivid, and yeah, it looked like that on the TV downstairs, and oh yeah, oh man, so sweet. Looks really good. I bought Rogue Book for ten dollars. It's another one of those card game rogue light games, kind of like Winter Frost or that other one I played. And I got Dragon's Dogma for four dollars. Oh, I can see how cool Dragons Dogma would have been when it came out, like the scope of it from the couple hours I've played. And it runs good on the Switch. It looks really good on the small screen, but once I blow it up on the big screen, it looks like absolute piss at the just like indie games like Little Small Dragons, Dragon's Dogmas cap. I don't. Oh, Dragon's Dogma was pretty large, like four game, but the other two are you Yeah, it's like one hundred years old. Pam love Dragon Dogs Dragon Dog and Dogma. It's good from what I can see. I can see how good it was the graphics, just because I had bought it on PlayStation five, I think, and I was like this looks like shit. I was like, I can't play this. But I was like, what if I squeezed that down to a smaller screen? Right? Just buying it on everything, like what the hell is going on? It was four dollars, There is four dollars. Year didn't really matter. That's uh, that's it for me. In the game time all there's eight three if you haven't played it, and you can get around the slow battles like if you're if you know that's that's the only thing that would hold people back, I think is just put that fast forward button in and you've got one more people playing there you go, uh yeah, I would agree. I would concur I've been playing. Oh uh, me and the boys, Me and a boys been playing the new A war Zone came out as we got updated version of Call of Duty war Zone. Just keep going back to that tea day, Well, you gotta check, you gotta get see if you keep chasing the dragon. You know that first version the twenty nineteen Wars on the Dragon, just the feeling that it gave us. It's special. It's a special feeling, special feeling, alloy and it's just not been the same. And we started playing like just before the update, and we were getting into it a little bit, we want a few it was, I was getting kind of used to it. It was still not very good, like for what it is. It is what it is. But the newer version improved on some things, but I feel like they should have been there. It's not that they improve you know, the by adding it back into the game, what like certain features back into the game to make it better when it should have never left the game. Yeah, like that kind of shit. Yeah like them. Yeah. So it's like mantling is much faster now. You can just like hop over things really quickly. Jump. The visual recoil and all the guns is like finally lower and down gone down. There's not like shit flying everywhere, shaking everywhere, screen shake and all this bullshit that was in the fucking last Like the guns are so bad. So guns are like you actually have less recoil now it's easier to shoot them, which is nice. They feel much better, but I feel like the sound got worse somehow, Like guys will parachute right on top of you. You don't hear a fucking thing, and they will like kill you point flank from behind, like they'll parachute in and land talking about did just talk about how that happens and why that happens, didn't APEX developers kind of explain why that happened. But that was a bug at the time. Oh right, okay, But I don't know if that's a thing for every game. It's because like you can only have a certain amount of sounds happening per frame or something between you and the server. Oh yeah, I could have been shooting, like I could have been shooting my gun or whatever. But still like if I'm shooting my gun and there's a guy like stomping around right behind me, landing from a fucking parachute, you don't think I would hear that. How they don't. It's weird how they don't have like a unless they do and it's just not working right. But like a priority system in terms of what sounds are given a priority in within that limitation, you know what I mean. I don't think they do no way they do. Like the buckles on your belt and your and your shoes are more important than the person, Like you hear your clothing fighting chance, Yeah, let's let's just like, oh we can hear the belt buckles. It's very hard. It's it's hard to tell where you're being shot from too. In this one harder, much harder, because I feel like I was like, like, where is this guy? I have no idea where people are, but it could be because I don't know the map yet. There's a new map, which is pretty cool. It's a lot closer to like the original Verdance map in the original war Zone, so it is a cool map. But yeah, man, like so many times I've just been like snuck up on and you just shot in the side of the head and I latched the kill tis and I'm like, how did he just sneak up on me like that? It doesn't make any sense, dumb, but I mean it was okay, it feels it feels pretty good. And I hope they bring back the Resurgence map a small Earth Island, Yeah, Rebirth Island. I heard they were going to bring that back, which would be sweet because that was our like favorite favorite map and we played that a lot. But yeah, we got we got some win so I've had some pretty good, fucking pretty good clips. It was pretty good. The sniping is much better now because they basically ruined sniping in the last version, so nobody because you had to like in the first version you could get a headshot with a certain sniper, you know, you would get a knock headshot right, Oh, you could not one shot anyone with a sniper in the war Zone two. I kind of like that being the person that would like to do I liked it, but I did kind of like sniping sometimes. But this one is now kind of like an in between, which is pretty cool. So it's like a two shot sniper, which isn't bad at all, Like it's a If you get a head shot, it's like a full crack and then you have to hit them like one more time to knock them. But sniping feels definitely much better, which I think they were listening to the community about. So, I mean, I liked it's better, but the sound was fucking horrible. Still, I've never liked the sniping and the Call of Duty games. Never Battlefield was where it's at for me. For a long range rifle that I love. The bullet drop and all the just the fact that you have to kind of think about that when you're shooting. That to me was the coolest part of the same thing that's in everything now though. Did they do that and do they do that in modern warfare now or in war Zone now? Always been there in Morizone. That's just like you can two in your gun for bullet velocity and you get oh, okay, well that's a straight or shot. At least if you don't do that, then you're gonna get a lot of bullet drop, right. But yeah, it's uh, yeah, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool. I'm not buying it, but I will have to grind and unlock my own guns because I don't I didn't buy the yeah, don't do it the game. But other than that, I don't think I've been really been playing anything. Daniel. Oh, well, I've been playing just a few things. I'm gonna start with Cyberpunk because I finally got to try out the new two point one update, which came out I believe it was on the fifth or sixth, I think. So I've been trying to spend some more time in night City and get involved in the Phantom Liberty story. So I played a couple of more a couple more I guess missions or whatever with still mister Solomon Reid just kind of getting lost in pretty crazy shit happened last night. I'm not going to talk too much about it, but definitely some really really cool shit that was just that's just as intense as as some of the stuff in the Bass game story. Yeah, I don't know, man if after playing Phantom Liberty, but also the new two point one update, which I will get into just a couple of minutes. The little things I can fully see myself. I will be starting over like another character at one point now because this just because of how involved everything is now and new and improved. But I have very much been enjoying the features of the new update, and so some of them are or you know, there's really it's not too many. A lot of it's I don't know if it's quality of life or or I don't know what you'd call these, but anyway, like, they finally implemented the metro train travel system, which was a huge, huge, huge problem for so many people on the launch. They're like, oh my god, there's a fucking train system and you couldn't even couldn't even ride it, And I was like, I didn't even what train. I don't understand why people were so obsessed with getting a working metro system. But all you do is you go in, you sit down, yeah, and you wait to get brought to a certain place. It's an immersion thing. I think it's an immersion thing because when you've got a city like Night City, you know, maybe you don't always want to take your car drive somewhere like Grand Theft Auto. Maybe you want to actually enjoy some sort of immersive sight seeing opportunity that is the metro system. So I get it. I wasn't super butt hurt that it wasn't possible. It's just that on a lot of the marketing assets that metro train wasn't exact that a bit. It was like, oh, people expected that, so then they were let down, you know, when they saw this this default v character being on like the metro train and being like, oh, that's fucking sweet man. There's like graffiti all over it and it's like a shithole, and there's like drunk people and the blood. So it's just felt like part of Night City. But we couldn't even use it, and you would just see it up in the up in the city, just kind of going around and you're like, well, wish I could fucking hit you right on that. But I never noticed it. Oh yeah, yeah, I noticed the tracks. I took some photos on the tracks, but that was it. But anyway, that's really cool. You have the option to once you start in after the update, you will get a text about it saying like, the issues with your Metro card have been resolved, you know what I mean. They work it into the story a little bit. I was I was writing a my elevator to my apartments and I got the text and I clicked on it and she my v took out the card. Yeah, and then everything went black except for the card and I fell through the elevator and died. Okay, great update, great update. But yeah, it's really cool because you have that option, or you can fast travel, So if you go to a Metro hub, you can either fast travel somewhere just like any other node, or you can use just the option to just sit down and just like check it out. It's really cool. I don't know, I really like it because again, it gives I'd rather have that option than not, so there's that. There's also like a personal radio they added, which is so cool because I remember playing which is funny Phantom Pain, Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain. Wait, and you can load your own songs in No No, but you can take a radio on the go, so like you can listen. And they added new stations and new songs in the game, so now when you're fighting and shit, you can just listen to fucking I really want to stay at your house while you're blowing people away and stuff. But for some I think, but for some things, obviously it's gonna stop for story music and whatever because they can't just kill the moment. I was like wondering what was happening. I was hearing this music while I was just like, oh, he was like, I'm not on my yeah car. That's probably what I just don't know how to control it where the interfaces I have to look. But I thought that's really cool because playing Metal Gater Solid Phantom Pain, I was like, Damn, you can have like a walkman and listen to like fucking Bowie and just like shoot these people and do your espionage or whatever. That's really cool. But the personal music or I should say, custom music would be an amazing update to that. Yes, I would just load it. Stopped Yeah, gun Ship stopped doing that, like it used to be a thing, like the custom music Like, yeah, the music industry has yeah clients. I guess so copyright bullshit because like remember in uh, what was that game for Xbox? Was it Crazy Taxi or something or not Crazy Taxi Driver Driver? Yeah? Yeah, you could put your own MP three's if you had threes or something on your Xbox. Yeah, back then I can see it being okay if you've had a CD and or something like that. I don't remember. Yeah, but back then you weren't online all the time, right, so it's pretty much offline. You're kind of just using your own media. Yeah, you have the contus from the CD to the Xbox, and then you would have it on the Xbox, which is fully legal. Put it in and just rip it to the What about the SIMS, You could do it in the SIMS. You could put custom music on your your stereo if you had a stereo. That's cool. There was a folder that it would look in six SIMS two or SIMS three three. Maybe there's like a folder it would look in and you just put that would be so sweet, like what I do now Sometimes when I'm just taking photos like in game cyberpunk photos, I'll turn the music down and I'll just listen to Gunship Midnight, you know, and I'll do and I'll do my photos, and it's so sick, like if they could just put these in there. They don't really have like a cool retro eighties how you say, like that kind of music in Cyberpunk. It's all kind of retro wave maybe I don't know. Yeah, they don't have like a retro wave station. Yeah, a lot more like a lot of it's like hyper futuristic and shit. Yeah, which is cool because I mean that's what let's see Grandma is, which is sometimes I get exhausted. They're just indie, but sometimes I just get exhausted with that music. Yeah, it's like techno rave shit. Yeah. Yeah, it's not exactly what I want to be listening to all the time. But sometimes they'll put on Royal Blue, like Spikes beule Wood or they Fay Valentine. But anyway, so that's really cool. The personal radio has a really neat little fun at it, and again, these things make the game that much better. Gang retaliation, which is fucking awesome. So if you go to like a gang hideout and you fucking level everyone in there and you you're doing a gig or you're doing whatever, they'll get wind of that and they're like, they'll basically put us in on you. So then they'll come at you any random time in the game, which happened to me I think twice. Last night. I was playing and I was just like, it's like you're in combat, and then I see these cars come ripping up and they're just shooting at me through their windows, and I was so I was like, oh shit, Like I don't even know how to really fight in my car yet. So I was like fumbling through the mechanics and I wasn't doing very well, and so I just got out yeah and uh and started I don't know how to shoot from your car. I think you have to left bumpers, pull out your weapon or why is drawn open, and then write bumper shoot or something. But often it's just a pistol. It's like, but there's like four guys in the car. It's like it's not easy. So I just got out of my car and blew them all up. But that is really awesome because then I checked one of their corpses and it was like a little note being like, kill that fucking bitch V because she, you know, she thinks she could fucking blah blah blah. Like it was really cool. So I love that a lot because I want there to be repercussions for my decision to absolutely wipe everyone out in a club or whatever. I want there to be repercussions and consequences for my actions in a game. I don't want to be like, oh, I'm the most overpowered, fucking nobody can touch me. Yes, come after me, come after me. It's really really neat. I love that a lot. So I think that this game, it's just all these little things make the game there. It's in such fantastic shape, and I think it's safe to say it's left it's bad, launch far behind in the dirt. So everyone who what I said, I agree, yes, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, oh, everyone who was bitching and moaning about it when it first came out, like you need to play it now, now you need to play it. So anyway, that is cyberpunk. So I'm looking forward to playing more and more of that. I've been playing some Party Animals downloaded Party Animals, which I'm having a lot of fun with. It's now two player, Nathaniel, So we as of October, I think though, So when we played it in September, I don't think we were able to do two player, but now it is from what I read, and I haven't tried multiplayer yet, was going to do it, and then I got super high and couldn't. I totally forgot that I had the game running. Huh you mean like down from three or four players, Like you couldn't do two, you could only do three or four because we tried to join each other on the same screen while playing online, which it didn't work, so like we would couch co op while having others from online join us in a match. We couldn't figure that out. Yeah, but now it's possible. I don't think it was possible in September when we tried, but now as of October I saw an article, so I think it is now. But yeah, I got super high and I was like, oh, I'm going to play some Party Animals, and then Matt Hollister was going to join me, and Matt was going to join me, and I was like, Okay, cool, man, and then I totally forgot that I had the lobby open, and I was just like, not focused on the game, but we'll try it again, and it should be fun, because fuck it's I was laughing so hard, man, I was laughing. It's good. I thought it was fun. But it's it's exactly the same as Gang Beasts. It's just re skinned Gang Beasts Cute Animal, which yeah as game Pass. Yeah, so it's free to play right now if you have game Pass. So there's that, which is playing. More of the levels are ridiculous. I was playing one in like the rapids on like a fucking wooden bridge or something, and I was like, this is insanity. It's just insanity. It was really fun because you can if you get pushed in the water or whatever. For a while I thought that was it, but you can actually swim to the edge and like pull yourself up and you're like you try to just like pull yourself up on the ledge. And there was an ice level with the same thing. If you if you get pushed in the water, you can come back to the ledge and try to get back up if someone will let you. But if you're in the water for too long, it'll just turn into an ice blocking and then you lose. So very very fun. Also still be playing Balloon Fight. It's very addictive. It's like on the the ne s is that Jerry's game No Balloons already talked about Balloon Fight. It's on the system on switch. It's a little it's like it's as addictive as like something like Tiny Wings or Flappy Bird, if you guys remember those. I finally beat phase five, but now I'm just stuck on phase six. It's the most fucking there's so much bullshit in it, and it's just like certain enemies are more aggressive than others, and we'll fly right at you and try and popular balloons and stuff. But it's fun. Those have been the three things I've been kind of just dabbling in. Easy easy, easy Pecy to jump into Balloon Fight, all right, telling you, well, there you go. Then let's uh, we're gonna move it along here and we're gonna go into gaming News where we're going to talk about the Game Awards of all. I think, all right, so the game Awards happened, when was it Thursday? Thursday the seventh, and just going to talk about some of the things to caught your eye, I guess, and maybe some of the things, some of the award winners that I mean balder skte balder Sky three sweep was it was taking quite a bit too Oh yeah, Alan Wick two true, No, okay, so belt yeah Bell just Gate didn't win everything it was nominated for, right, Yeah. I could have watched this thing, man, like this fuck dude. I watched like I could. It was like four hour. I think it's because it's I hate awards shows to begin with, like Oscars, Juno's whatever you want, and I already think them to be pretty cringe and like weird already, but like shove thousands of nerves into an auditorium and this is like energy Vampire Mega fans basically the Windows ninety five launch party with Bill Gates dancing stage. Maybe that deal now they watch and stuff. I watched maybe five minutes before I had to like shut it off, and then I just watched recaps later, like I I no, pretty cool games, right, nothing that blew my socks off? No, I mean there was a couple of shadow drops. I think that was my favorite part of it was. I think there was three shadow drops, three surprise drops. Nice the God of War DLC, Ragnark DLC coming out next week, the twelfth. Then they dropped Final Fantasy six Dean DLC dropped that night. They said live Tonight. Nice. Yeah. Then what was the third one? The Finals? Yeah, the Finals? Shadow Drop released that night. Oh, I wanted to talk about the finals, Like, holy moly, that's crazy. Three shadow drops. I love shadow drops. Yeah, shadow dropping is sweet. Keep doing the shadow dropping. Remember Hi Fi Rush was a shadow drop and it won Best Audio Design. Damn yeah, damn yeah I was it won best Yeah, it did get an award. Speaking of awards, actually, let's talk first about maybe some of the trailer would be liked. Yeah, okay, let's go, yeah you go. Did you watch all the trailers? Yeah? I watched all the well not every single one. I like the big ones, I guess I didn't the ones that caught my attention when I was zooming through No Rest for the Wicked. That sounds No Rest for the Wicked. The RPG made by the guys who did Ori the Blind Forest, It's like a Diablo looked like oh yes, yea like a lot faster. Yeah, that looked sweet. That was my most anticipated from what I saw through the trail. It looked really Yeah. I like that whole aesthetic. ARPG. That's my jam. That's my jam. How did I not see that one? No? Rest wicked? Yeah, looked sweet. I had a few too. Should we just trade one off? Yeah, sure, and then we'll just uh shit, I don't remember what that was called. Was going to add another one, but one of the ones that I wrote down was of course Last Sentinel, which looked really cool, which was kind of it looked like cyberpunk kind of genre, but a little bit more maybe a little bit more techy. I don't I don't really know. Yeah, and I don't remember what it was about really, because the trailer that I watched was really short. Oh yeah, it was more like a cinematic kind of yeah. Yeah, but like cyberpunky. It looked kind of sweet, and I liked the the vibe of the trailer, of the color palette and all that stuff. The mood was really cool. So I'm intrigued about that. That's one of mine robots. I have a few more. I thought Exodus looked pretty cool. Yes, also pretty much a reskinned Interstellar. Yeah, it looked like like came out And I was like, hey, Matthew McConaughey, what's going on here? And then it kind of looked like Starfield even just just better. Yeah, I did look really cool a lot of that. I liked a lot of the camera work that that third person person action kind of shit. I fucking love that look. So I was also very curious about Exodus. Absolutely I didn't get to see everything, I don't think, because I started watching it like eight It was like an hour in, so there probably were some things I missed, But yeah, I started. I think Exodus was one of the first ones that I saw. But what I did is I when the recap, I like watched a fast forwarded version, like super fast forward, and then when I got to the trailers, I would stop and if it looked cool, then I would normal speed watch it then fast forward. M hmm. What I What I don't understand are these Final Fantasy seven chapter remake games, Like what are they going to do? Like how this rebirth? Where's that going to end? In this story? Not even past disc one in the original trilogy disc disc first one? Like that already isn't this one already gone? I didn't finish the first one? Actually, No, they just got out of Midgard in the first one. Isn't that the first disc? I don't think so, is it that's the first disc? Huh? So what you're saying they're releasing the remake in parts? Is that what that's I have a feeling there's gonna be like eight of these parts at ninety dollars each, just milk the ship out of it. No, there's it's just there's gonna be three. I don't think so it was gonna be three pretty sure. I don't believe them. No, I don't believe. That's why I kind of stopped playing it was because I was like, well, all the way to finish it and then not be able to play the rest of it. So I'll wait years for these fucking chapters to come out at ninety dollars apiece, and then when they release a massive collection of the ball you know, all the DLCs, because they're gonna milk that too. They're gonna they're gonna leave characters out, and they're gonna put a little deal. It's gonna be another console out by the time the third one. This whole Final Fantasy seven remake thing is bonkers to me. It's just I don't. I don't understand it. I don't get it. Well, I didn't like it. I'm not interested. Wasn't it one of their best, like biggest Final Fantasies. I guess it makes sense for them to do for this than one of the best games of all time, then say Final Fantasy the original? Wow? Yes, yeah, but man, now everything's big and better. Man, I will tell you I would love to play it, but I will probably buy the soundtrack before I play the new you know what I mean, Like, the soundtrack is probably gonna be fucking I did listen to the remastered soundtrack, yeah, because it's probably all the game was good. I played the first one. I didn't stop playing because it was bad. I stopped playing because I didn't want to finish it and not be able to play the rest of the fucking story, the rest of the game that I want to play, Like, there's a lot more after that first part, and you're just yeah, I played like sorry, I played like a hours. I think of the remake and I was just like, I can't, I'm not doing this. It's true. I think all the recent Final Fantasies are just not my jam, not my jam, and it all started with Final Fantasy. What thirteen, thirteen, fifteen was? Oh? I fucking hated fifteen. It wasn't good. I'd skeptical to even try sixteen, even though everyone's hyping beat fifteen, didn't you. Yeah, I beat fifteen and it was like, okay, like these guys running around at a car car. I just don't think it's ever been any of It's been my jam. Really. If I'm gonna play, when it's gonna be seven and that is it. I think the last one I really enjoyed was ten maybe, And even ten was like what's stretching? Is that buddy with what's his name? Again? I'm telling you I said. I said it on Discord the other day. I was like, they haven't been good since PS one, guys, I said, Final Fantasy hasn't been Yeah, i'd say, yes, I love Final Fantasy eight. I've i seven eight nine seven eight nine. Yeah. Even I tried six for a while and I enjoyed what I played. I never finished it, but I also liked six. But like all these like action, When it's like action, there's no turn based for me, that's when I throw it away. Yeah, given a bothers base like Final Fantasy fourteen. I loved because it was an MMO rping and I was playing with a bunch of friends that way. It was the fan fourteen The Girl Born Awesome, amazing. No, that's thirteen. I never played There's Lightning. I tried thirteen. It was on game Pass. I think I was like this scrap. Oh oh yeah, sorry MMO. Yeah, I making a lot of people angry. Man, Yeah, I know, and I don't really care because I can't. Our show is our show, and I'm allowed to say whatever the fuck I want instead of starting shit in people's discords. Oh that's good stuff, you guys, like, how about Hideo Kajima's Mystery Experiment? What the fun was that? About this guy fucking Jordan Peele come out? Did you see that? I didn't watch that. I just watched the Peel came out after because he's working on that game with that ODO game. What's it called. I don't know what the so then it's probably O D just shows their faces. I was like, fuck, got off Kajima fast forward, Well, it's just showing how this guy can get people excited just by showing his face on stage, Like, sorry, doesn't do it for me show me something. Yeah, though, were those faces like in game graphics? Well, yeah, that's my assumption. Yes, so that's why. Well that was incredible, But like that doesn't I don't know if he can somehow make a game that looks like that, that's just like that and just like faces talking to you somehow and getting you. I don't know. I don't know how. But now I make that. It's just a demo. It's just a demo. And the reflections in the eyes you could see kind of see things, reflections. It's a horror, supposed to be a horror. It's definitely gonna be if Jordan Peele's working on it, it's definitely gonna be horse. Yeah, yeah, sure, so that's really interesting, Like the faces looked really cool. What was the last game by him? I played Metal Gear Solid too? Did you even make that one? Yes? Yes? I think. What are your thoughts on Light No Fire? This new fucking oh yeah? The No Man Sky developer, the No Man's Sky guys. I don't trust the sellers, okay, And you think, do you think what happens before, what happened before? He would he's probably learned, right, I remember making it's going to collect everyone's pre orders. He's going to make all this money and then he's just going to fuck off off and in ten years you'll have you'll have a complete game. The idea is cool. I made a joke and planet right, yes, and I was like, you you'll even be able to see each other on the planet, because like that's what he said, and No Man Sky on the outside, and you'll be able to climb each other and see. Yes, well he said that early on in No Man's Sky and he did a lot of wining. Yes, we've covered the story. We've covered this story an hour on the show Gaming Scandals episode which you should go Gaming Scandals because it was fucking funny. Yeah, if you want to know the story, go back to the Gaming Scandals episode and we tell that story. But I mean, it could be cool if you have a bunch of friends. Now I'm hoping it's just not like Sky and Minecraft. You just fucking don't do anything and just yeah, that's what it's going to be. It's supposed to be. You're living on the dungeons. Give me some boss fights or something. Because the guys had like equipment, it looked like they had like weapons and stuff. To survive monsters attacking them all to cut down trees and build their houses. That's what it's going to be. That's so annoying. Like I hate base builders, Like it's pointless to play a bass builder. It's pointless. Yeah, that straight Noman Sky for sixty five hours or something, and then I was like, okay, I mean why am I playing this? Yeah? You class sixty five hours in that give me just exploring and driving around and like and it's just crafting. You just craft that's all it is. Like, No, there's no story, there's no bosses, there's nothing. Well I think there is now after a million years of it being out. No, no, no, I just played it a like missions like space missions and go collect stuff and bring them back to anyway, I sea it is there. The idea is it is intriguing here for Light No Fire, I'm a little bit peaked, let's see, I'm a little bit Yeah, I was, kid, that's what I was trying to remember the name of it. And they had to put something out soon. They've only had one game over fucking ten years. I think, yeah, it's made it money though, well they have a live service game. I don't know, do they anyway Jurassic Parks think about that though, VR. That wasn't VR, though, I don't think it's VR. No, I didn't see any kind of VR platform after the trailer that V that looked insane. I think it was just thought. No. I think I think this is gonna be like an Alien Isolation, but with Jassic Park. That's what I think. That's what I took. Yeah, that would be sweet. Yeah, wait, look it looked it looked pretty insane. I haven't played Alien Isolation. I probably won't play this one because I don't like shitting my pay. Apparently this game was a canceled game from back in the early two thousands. Oh really never got to play due to struggles at the development studio. Interesting, who does Drassic Park? Is that? EA? Who's publishing? I don't know. Uh. I don't think every and does Drastic Park now, just like how Star Wars people can do Star Wars Ship now, right, it's not just a probably because Disney's the VR, I thought for sure this would be a VR. There is a Jassic Park VR, but it's more like cell shaded looking thing. It's also on sale. Yeah, Dassic World, Oh, no, after Math collection. Oh there is a VR yeah for meta. For meta, it's called Jurassic World after Math. Yep. Anyway, damn that Blade? Yeah what Blade? Yes, there's a Blade game coming next. I think that's pretty much all I was really interested in. Yeah, pretty much like it wasn't It didn't blow my socks off, you know, like yeah, yeah, four hours for this fucking game show, like what Yeah, okay, let's talk about winners then winners and losers. I'm such a wet blanket today about the game awards. God, that's when, aren't you a wet blanket? That's true. I try to keep the negative, you know. I tried to keep it balanced. Somebody, somebody had to do it. I am the chosen one. But yeah, we'll talk about some wins, I guess I. I fast forwarded right to I didn't watch all of them. I was watching a YouTube video that said all wins, and I was like, I'll go through the ones that interested me, Like I don't really care about best fucking E sports Player and all this ship right, so hey, Imperial, how Apex Legends was nominated? I didn't even know promptly, but I fast forwarded to obviously like best Soundtrack, Best performance and all that stuff, and I think the best soundtracks performance. Yeah, what's his name in Baldersgate again? Remember Asterian? Okay, Hysterio. It's like gray Hair or whatever. So good, so fantastically good, can't get better. I don't. Like I said before in a couple episodes ago, Baldersgate three has the best voice acting you've ever heard in a video game period. Take that to the bank. Okay, take the bank. Yes, they nothing better than Balder'sgate three voice acting. Nothing, It's true, that's a fact. Don't give us no. Final Fantasy sixteen. Yeah, no, don't give us that ship. I switched to Japanese instantly in that game. Yeah, go play well you played it, you played sixteen? Oh I played the demo? Oh okay, but yeah, definitely the best, definitely the best. Although Diablo is pretty good. Yes, Diablau was good. There's a couple of characters that it was like, yeah, but the guy that the main buddy, what's this the guy who is in fantasicty. Yeah, now, speaking of five Final Fantasy sixteen, that's what won best score. Mean. Now, that doesn't surprise me at all, because I think surprise me. I think that a lot of the Final Fantasy music is pretty clutch when it comes to their grandiose and it's it's all very epic and sweeping and and these a lot of orchestral textures. And I don't know, I don't feel like singing in all those games, like the singing in those game musics. You know, what do you mean singing like wires? No, it's like a woman singing like it's a pop song or something. I don't want to hear that. Yeah, I don't want to. But that's that's like the score. That's what they do. That's that's kind of like Capcom does that too. I don't like it. I don't. I don't Capcom does that all the time. It's like vocal track based, like even in Dragon's Dogma that I've been listening to, Like if you just take her out of this of the track, the track would be that much better now. You know. It's funny because it's not it's like this Japanese lady like singing in English and it's all broken you know, bother English. I don't know about that. Capcom. Capcom, Yeah, that's so they do. It's like like really like accented. But even if they music fan Fantasy fourteen is the same way they have this all this music with singing in it. Yeah, now that's not just the games though, they they did it like Studio Ghibli does that too, and they always find a vocalist, like a soloist to sing the words of a of a song and it's kind of always that's just I think, uh, it almost might be an art form in Japan, like it's a genre almost like the soloist performance thing because it's almost like a classical influence on their pop music. It's really really strange, but it's I mean, it's kind of cool when one of the songs is like I've heard songs like that that are just incredible, so I can't naysay them. But for certain context, yeah, I'm not a huge fan, like just give me the instrumental music, so the music is often the music or the voice will distract from whatever the context is. But yeah, finally, sixteen Best Scorer, I will play. I will play final fasly sixteen Okay, oh really, I will play it once it's like thirty dollars, okay, I will purchase it, or when it comes on PS plus free game, I'll play Okay, okay, what else we got? We got Cyberpunk winning Best Ongoing finally recognized. You know, it's been three years. Did it not win last two years? Anything? Nothing? Wow? Nothing? I don't think that because it's a disastrous bullshit. Yeh, want at the bandwagon? Jump on? You know, there's always something. Finally after three years it's recognized for something like yeah, and it's for its progress over the years. It's like, yeah, I don't know, come on, that's a it's a win. It's a win. Take a win for cyberpunk. Yeah, okay, we have nothing like that? Eh? What else do you want to talking about here? Actually? Action adventure? We had Zelda Zelda one, Zelda one over Alan wait somehow for a while, Well, I can't see Alan everything else I don't know, Like is it an action game? I thought it was? All I see so far? Yeah, all I've seen so far in these trailers are them walking with a flashlight and some scares and like really nice graphics. Like I don't want to play that game. I'll probably play very good. I'll pay it when it comes to draw ninety dollars. I'm not paying like Walking simulator Journalist simulator, like I don't want to. Yeah, I'm not paying full price, but I'll play it, I think if it goes on sale. But Spider Man two, Yeah, Spider Man two was in there, but Tears of Kingdom one, which is okay. I think for me, I'm good with that. Yeah, definitely Spider Man two. I don't know. I just I'm such a minds I think I need to relax a bit, you know, Like, what, everything I've seen of Spider Man two wouldn't have deserved any of these awards. What do you guys think you played it? Why? I like it? Tell me, I mean it's good, but I don't think it's like award winning because it's yeah, okay, it's the same. That's what I get. That's what I exactly. That's what I get from watching any kind of video, any kind of review. Like it's just like another Spider Man game. Yeah, I just want to play because I want to swing to the city again and beat up back. It's really good. It's really good though. It's it's it's as good as it's better than the last one, you know what I mean, it's better than the others, and it's yeah, but it's just kind of the same, but it's better, Like the story is a little cooler because you know, you got venom and everything. Like, so, do you think maybe that's why Starfield didn't get much? Should we talk about Starfield and why it didn't win? Now that's Todd Howard. Yea so funny. I felt so sad for him. Ten years of like building this game and it did. Did it got nominated at least? Yeah? Imagine don't even get nominated. Imagine it had to it has to get nominated. Is more years than that though, I think it's more than ten years. That's why that's a hurt where we know you're hurting Todd. We know you're hurting man. Sorry Todd, but like to be honest though, just that creation engine just can't compete. Man, It's just it's true. I don't think it looks great good, but the people do not. That's true. Yeah. The characters still and stupid and they were bug eyed freaks. They were not cool looking. The women weren't attractive, the men weren't attractive. The character like, why would you put that woman in my party? I want to say, yeah, if you're going to do that, give me an option to shoot her in because you don't get to choose who's on your side. Oh yeah, I can choose who I kill though. Yeah, she wasn't happy with me about a few things. But anyway, game but it's not it's not a or. But again, it would have been really funny is every time she made some stupid remark comment, give me some text to reply, shut the fuck up, you know what I mean? Give me that there was actually more than I thought there was, though every time she was like, I don't agree, maybe as all snarky. You can be like I'm sorry to hear that or whatever, you know what I mean. Yeah, but but I think that I mean. It was nominated for Best RPG. Yeah, which is good because that's what, if anything, that's what it stands to win. It's obviously that Noman's Guy because it's everything No Man's Guy was with fucking story and and gameplay and all that excitement. So that was really cool, and it was massive and it was huge. I I don't know. I think the music was great, yeah, you know. Bothered. What bothered a lot of people was just the amount of ship yet to sit through, Like all the animations were so long getting in and out of stuff, so long. Climbing ladders took forever. Walking across a desert planet looking for an outpost took forever, like there was no real way to speed that up. Like I watched a YouTube video of how CD project read builds open worlds, you know, and they're witcher three formula. Yeah, is something has to be going on within ten to fifteen seconds of you getting somewhere or thirty seconds to be interesting. So if you land, if you fast travel to a village, okay, you're immersed within fifteen twenty seconds, something happens that grabs your attention. Starfield was four minutes when you got to an outpost on a planet. It was four minutes before something happened. Like that is crazy, But what is that something? What does that qualify as? Like aliens running around like the average time, like something like something that has like an engagement, an engagement or like some kind of story blip or some kind of thing that grabs your attention. Never I landed on a planet in Starfield, like you literally jet packed for three to four minutes before anything happened, got anything on the planets. Yeah, And I think that kind of scope was a bit too much. I don't think they should have done a thousand planets. I don't think they should have done all that whatever, how many planets as much as Skyrim. I walking around you could see Skyrim, something would be happening exactly Skyrim. When you play a giant is attacking a bear. Yeah, I mean it's the planet's an outer space that most of them are going to bear and it's not going to happen. It's not the same. I know, I know, but that's what you have to separate, like a video game from what your expectations of reality is. Like, it's a video game, not reality. I don't want to be walking on this deserted planet for ten minutes. Thing is there and zero. I think that killed the engagement. Maybe the excitement of of of the attention span of the modern gamer needed to be stimulated more, and maybe it just wasn't. I loved it. I'm going to go back to it. I love you, Todd. I jumped back into it. I jumped back into it, and I loaded up all my mods and I shot some people, did a few missions. I was like, this is sweet, but just going out to other planets like and like doing that kind of stuff was kind of nothing. Really happened. Like if you go to a planet, you find an out post, you loot a few boxes and kill a few batties, but there's nothing that was like really like why do I want to go? Do these outposts? Right? Yeah? We could? What about Balder's Kata's best multiplayer game? I don't know about that. No, what really over like Diapplo four, m hmmm, what else there is? Literally like that's what it's for. You're playing with people. That's what I skate, Yeah, balder Skate three, Like, yes, you can play it multiplayer, but that's not so you don't think there's an Element's the best multiplayer strategy listed Party Animals, Super Mario Bros. Wonder, Diablo four, and The Street Fighter six. Yeah that's I voted for Diable four four wins that. I don't know why Balderskate three won that. I'm that's kind of weird. But and then how about art direction like Alan Wake two wins directions over by Rush like this is I had. I had a very big issue what art direction? Isn't it real life? Just a realistic thing? Like but it's like the same the dark theme and the coda is what this this is what the word says for outstanding creative and or technical achievement in artistic design and animation. So so maybe the animation is really the animations. How fluid the motion capture is? How? Yeah? Like, well it looks how good it really looks? Hang on? Is there already an Alan Wake two? What's going on here? This looks like Alan Wake remastered and there's Alan Weak two and like two just came out. Okay, apparently it's supposed to be the best looking game well the fucking out there period. These screenshots look horrible. This does not look like a new game anyway. I don't know, looking at all remastered or something, I don't know. I'm looking at Alan Wake two and it's like it looks like a game from fucking two thousand, Like I don't you're wrong anyway, but yeah, I don't know. Our direction is weird, though, man, because it's like it's all about the vibe and the consistency of the aesthetic and and you know, so I can still see it winning. It's not like it's not it's not like a game like this has no art direction. So I don't think I agree with you guys, and that you know, maybe High Fright Rush as a unique, very vivid art direction. That doesn't mean it's per se better than Alan Wake two. But I voted. I voted for Lies of p for their art direction because of how it pushed you through the game. The director, the art in that game, and the design pushed you and helped you through the game because it was so like like a puppet world. All these guys like it's something that Alan Wake was just real life. That's what That's what bothers me. I think is it's just like an FBI. I haven't played it, so I can't really smash on it too much, like from what I've seen trailers reviews. Like art direction, I don't know. I think they need to kind of separate these categories to be honest. That's visually some kind of like graphic or visually stunning award or something. But like direction because it's realistic doesn't mean it direct is the is the style in which they choose to visually tell the story. So so the award says, you know, for outstanding creative and slash or technical achievement in artistic design and animation. So they probably went for the ladder of that too. Like the mo cap and the technical achievement. I'd say the mood and versus creative, Like how creative is it? I don't, I don't haven't played it. Yeah, I guess, but the art didn't look very creative to me. All right. I think that's really all I had a beef with. I don't know Game of the yearballers get thous what was played between huh player voice players choice basically, but they made a stupid fucking decision that was very confusing with players voice awards. So players voiced their opinion on what should win in game. Did you not see this, Jonathan in the group chat yesterday? I was super confused. I was like, okay, so there's best performance and then there's best player Voice. I was like, okay, so like the the player character's voice acting. I was like, okay, I guess that's different player's choice. Yeah, I know, which they just should have called it because that was super He didn't call it that, though. What what won it? I did it? Oh? Yeah, okay, so there it's the unanimous It won the panel and it won from the fans the best and I think of the Year, and I think what they were trying to do was get games in and nominated that weren't by the panel, like Hogwarts Legacy. I think that was there so much for that. Yeah, yeah, not even a mention, not even a fun like that's okay, let's talk about that legacy. Not a nomination for Best RPG Action Adventure. You have fucking Resident Evil for a remake in there. You have like big else we got here, Like they couldn't even the art direction in Hogwarts Legacy. I would be I would be very direction in Hogwarts Legacy. These people designed this fucking castle, this castle, and they put together an entire castle from just what existed in terms of photographs, descriptions from the novels, et cetera. Like that is top tier. It's disgusting. This is a disgusting yeah, like just because of somebody else's It's like they didn't even get a fucking recognition, Like there wasn't even no acknowledgement of the game. That's fucking ridiculous. I would have been pretty upset if any remaster or remake won any awards unless it was best Remake. You know, have a fucking award for best remaster or Remake and let them win it. Okay, Yeah, don't let them come in here and try to take Game of the Year when you're a fucking remake, because I will lose my ship more than I'm already losing it this match. Yeah. I can't even believe Resident before it was nominated, Like, give me a break, get that out of here, Get that ship out of here. Now you're making a lot of people upset. Sorry, well, remake the remake, get out of here, Like Hogwarts should have been at least nominated there instead of Residing before. Get that out of here. Put Hogwarts in there at least Best Action Adventure nomination. Okay, thank you an acknowledgment. Yeah, they has the name, the Hogwarts name, just ship now like now on it will just never be never. It's just tarnished. It's like, okay because of JK. Ralling said something on Twitter and is just like that's yeah, okay, Well I'm hourring to see more from them. I don't know, despite their obvious you will. It's made a billion dollars. Yeah, yeah, they're just like not, we're staying away. We're not touching that with a ten foot Yeah, but you know what, as long as they keep as long as they make another one. I'll keep buying them. I don't care. I enjoyed the game. The game was fucking fantastic as a game, as a video game, you're playing a video game. It is the best Harry Potter game that's ever come out, because all the other ones have just been shitty movie games and they're all terrible graphics and old, just like kind of the Lord of the Rings stuff. This company needs to make a Lord of the Rings game that would be fucking sweet. Yeah they should, but I just love sweets, aren't they. Oh no, they don't own Lord of the Rings anymore. Well, they owned something of it, but anyway, I just think that the only the last, the last good Lord of the Rings games were the Shadow games. That's it. That's it. Think about that, the last good Lord of the Rings games with the Shadow games. How far older there wasn't There hasn't been many of them, though. That's because no one knows how there's so many Lorderings games. You type in how many Lord of Rings games there are. It's also started back in the early two thousands. It's like some fucking shitty Hobbit game or whatever. But still it just goes to show you when you look at like the competition that these Lord of the Rings games have had through the years. None of them meet that, you know, their competition. It's just they don't have all the candle. So somebody is doing something horribly wrong and they need to fix. I think it's because anyway, there's too many moving pieces with the licensing. I think, so people can't make certain certain people can't make certain games that they'd want to make, I think. And then you get these people making games they shouldn't be making because they only know how to make these certain games. Again, imagine giving Delicious War and Shadow of Mortar. Order was twelve? Wait what there was a game in nineteen eighty seven apparently called the Shadows of Mortar. So I also think think about this. They don't want to just remake the movies right in a game, and that's fine, And I think everyone who thinks Lord of the Rings are thinking the main line movie storyline right. And then when you when you try to make a side story into this world, you're not Aragorn, you're not Frodo. Why would somebody want to play that? Wow? I guess maybe the fan base. I think that I think that is the issue. I think that they all buckle under the pressure of this massive thing that Peter Jackson did. Yes, that's what I think, because they just blow their load too soon and they're like, oh, they make gold, They're just like h or they make fucking some card game or But what I'm saying is you can't make a game with those main characters and it compete against the movies. So they try to make something different, so you can't. Can't you can't compare it with those characters because they're not going to make a game with Frodo. No, that's the big character, right, It can still be good without them. There's a game coming out, Tales of the Shire, a Lord of the Rings game. Yeah, it's a whole villa sim Yeah yeah, yeah, stupid god. Anyway, they can move on, all right, Well we can move on now. No, it's like decide decide the fireworks for kendallph Fireworks designer coming in twenty twenty three mobile game. Fuck, well, what do you want? What do you want? What I'm saying, you can't make make a game. You can't make up new stories, you can't make up you could want to play the massive archives of fucking tomes that Christopher Tolkien has published potentially depending on the rights, you know, but it will never live up to the main storyline of Lord of the Rings. That's might be so cool. No, there's some cool fucking county again all that that, there's so many I wish I was playing. That's just you because you're two dimensional, well or like playing it is like sixty of the Glandril's Brother's name was brother, Oh brother, I don't know our brother, oh fan or like the stories of those guys. And that's still really and that'd be amazing anyway, But again that might have to do with rights. He couldn't use the names. I don't know, but somebody who does have the rights needs to step up their fucking game and they need to do something about it because there's a serious lack anyway. That was a tangent, but all right, tangent over it's so funny because all their games are like that. It's so stiff, so fucking dumb. So let's move on. We're gonna go in today's topic, we're gonna talk about the Shallcan versus Diablo. Hello everyone, we are thrilled to announce an exciting new partnership with vr rock dot Com get ready to enhance your VR experience with vr rocks protective lenses, available for both prescription and non prescription users. As a fellow VR enthusiasts, I opted for their blue light canceling lenses. These lenses are designed to protect my PSVR twos stock lenses from scuffs and scratches, while helping to reduce eyestrain caused by prolonged exposure to blue light during extensive VR gaming sessions. Installing vr rocks lenses is a breeze. A simple click and a magnet snap and you're all set for a comfortable and immersive VR adventure. The best part, our friends at vr rock dot com have a special offer for you, guys, our listeners. 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I don't really know. I don't think we ow any of us are. Can you remember in the first movie, like from the nineties, yep, at the end of the movie when the Emperor he was like this giant fucking dude like in the sky. I'm like, whoa that crazy? Yeah? Oh yeah man? But that's not really who he is, is he He's just like a guy that's smaller. Yeah, because like that guy was fucking huge. I played Mortal Kombat eleven, but I think like he gets overthrown as the overworld Emperor by this Osiris guy. So this Osiri's guy beats him and becomes emperor of Outland out World. Out World. Outland is worldcraft. How powerful can he be? But this Osiris guy is like a sun god dude as well, right, Like he's super powerful as well. It's so strange to me. The whole Mortal Kombat thing is so strange to me. And how Earth fighters, like these martial artists can go and beat these gods, Like, that's so fucking stupid to me. I don't Well, they have their they have their power. Yeah, I guess, Like, what did Johnny Cage think he was going to do when he entered a Mortal Kombat? Like, You've got these people, these monsters with like six arms, blades, sharp teeth and all this shit, and you've got Johnny Cage coming in here, some freaking movie star came. All he needs is one and two. That's all I need. Those are five hundred dollars sunglasses, asshole. I definitely don't think Chao Kan would have been Diablo, but I'm a Diablo fan. I'm a bit biased. Yeah, I guess same. There seems to be some debate over the divinity of theism or whatever of both Chao Kan and Diablo a clear definition of a definition of which could compromise the winner of this particular match, like our result. What I remember reading was Diablo, his brothers. All the Prime Evils were actually at one time one being, and this entity once defeated when he crashed down to or whatever happened, he got separated into these entities we know now as Diablo, the Prime Evils, all these bail bail memphisto. Right, So whenever this entity died, these creatures were born, and the last one to be born out of this end was Diablo. So he's considered the youngest of the Prime Evils, but he's not like baby brother. They were all just spit out of this entity's soul or whatever in order, and Diabolo just seemed to be the last one spit out. There was talk of Shao Khan being on the same level, the same type of being or whatever as Raiden. Oh Man Nave is going nuts right now, Sorry name, we didn't get you in here, you know, just sit through this and let us know. Just fucking vibrating and twitching. God. It says here in the Mortal Kombat fandom dot com that he resembles a large Asian warrior and is well known for his godlike strength, which rivals, if not outright exceeds, that of Raidan and other godly characters. Okay, and Raiden's pretty powerful if I remember correctly, So I mean he's he's godlikes, So I mean, I think this is a pretty good matchup. So maybe he could have won, you know what I mean? Maybe maybe he could have. It was a cool fight. Diablo summoned some minions, which which is similar to the other fight that we had with the lich King. They were promptly smashed down promptly. Would there have been anything that we would have changed in the prompts that would have maybe made it a little bit more fair. There was one moment where there was something in be strategic mind resilience. There was something about the word resilience in the fight. I think we need to leave that out for everything. Resilience, adaptability. There's some keywords we need to leave out. Hey, we'll just take that and run. Oh he's got resilience, Oh adaptability, he's resilient. Is that? Well? No, think it beat him. But what if they're both adapted or or you put it in both, because then the AI might think of a new way that both of them are resilient. It's just like going if you put in both and it just never ends. A clash of Titans, last Eternity. Now that we're on our fifth match, I find you can tell when each battle is going to make a turn. So there's like certain sentences that the AI repeatedly uses. Now the battle raged, Yeah, the battle raged, or the dance between heaving chests, whatever, whatever, the dance of magic and blades, the dance of demonic power and whatever, the dance of this that we hear, that's because you fed it the previous fights, and it just is gonna repeat it. Yeah, Okay, for the next one, we won't feed it anything. Don't feed it the previous fight, and we'll see what what it can come up with. It can come up with that's new. Yeah, maybe it won't use the battle raged, Maybe it won't use the same format that it used in the previous ones. Maybe that's what's true. Maybe maybe it's trying to stick to a format. Okay, let's try that. Let's try just a blank prompt, like these two characters with these strengths are fighting, give me seven hundred words. That's it. We'll see what is different. But I found it very similar to the lich King Cradles fight like very similar. Yeah, okay, so let's talk about the prompts and getting the artwork. Then, oh, the Black Soulstone. We talked about the Black Soulstone and how that's Diablo's weakness, but I think if we even put that in there, it would have been an auto like show con captures him in the auto win. So I'm glad we left that one out. I mean, maybe it would have happened. Still, Oh, the black cul Stones is weakness. Okay, that's what I was thinking, But like a soul manipulation also kN has soul manipulation exactly. And how the A I didn't make that connection because it should know some lore of the Diablo franchise. He should know about Diablo three and how we how we captured Diablo and Diablo three, how we ended Diablo and Diablo three. Maybe he's not thinking of it as Diablo from the video games. Maybe it's Diablo from you know, who knows. No the problems I said, I said Blizzard game trilogy. I said that I think it needs to dig deep more into the lore of these characters and kind of mold something a bit more unique. In my opinion, should we prompted to use the lore of the character. I think I think we should. I think we should. That would that be wouldn't have anything to do with the copyright with that, No, not in the story making, just in the just in the images. You can't do that. You could even find particular piece of lore that you feel like and then like feed that to the AI, unless you'd rather do its own research. It can go out and search the internet, it says. Whenever you ask it a question that it needs to go out and search, it'll say searching the Internet, and it does a little Mimi mime and it comes back. So I think we can say in one of the prompts, is I searched the Internet for lore on this character. Maybe even search lore, because I didn't make it search lore and then create strengths and weaknesses. I didn't do that. I just said, what's the strength and weaknesses of Diablo? And we don't know what game it's pulling from, if it's even pulling from a game. Making it up, Yeah, it could just be making this shit up. If we say, grab the lore from the Wikipedia of the Diablo franchise Blizzard Games and make strengths and weaknesses for this character. Yeah maybe, Yeah, Okay, let's do it. Put that in there, let's go into the art then I guess Yeah, this one was by far the hardest to get it consistent. I think it was because it knows what Chakan looks like, right, but I can't use the name Shao Kan so obviously, so I have to like describe chow Kan based on what I remember or what I remember playing a Chowkan. So I based it on like the classic chowkn and kind of like Moral Kombat eleven show Con. So if you look up Moral Kombat eleven chow Con, he's kind of like a lizard man. It's got like scaly skin, sharp teeth. In the original Mortal Kombat, he was just a human. He looked like a human being with a barbarian outfit. So I think what the AI was doing was like, ah, it was so difficult, And I was like, he wears a skeleton mask. I just wanted to see a skeleton mask or a helmet with a mask on his face is not a skeleton, Yeah, I kept saying, his face is not a skeleton. He does not have a skull for a face, but it just cannot grasp that. And I was like, in future, in all future images of Khan, do not make his face a skeleton, and it will not listen to me. It does not listen to me. You need to get a fucking hold a handle on your your ai artist. Man, you gotta rain this guy in. But some of this stuff looks pretty damn cool though. Yeah, Like even though the skull face was almost on every image, it was there a single mask skull mask? No, oh maybe I think there might have been one. But he has a beard, Like when did I tell him to put a beard on him? And he kept putting beards on him? I really like the third and fourth images of the crystal caverns is really cool. They're really really nice. Yeah. I think it was trying to like pull the new chau Kan as well, because the new Chaukon and Mortal Kabat one looks like the Ablow. He looks like a demon vampire with horns and shit, I didn't know that right, so like, why is he putting horns on Chao Kan? I was like, stop with the horns. I don't want to see horns on Chaokan, and he just kept putting horns on Chakan. So I think he kept trying to bring Cha Kan from Mortal Kombat one into the because there's so many difference. There's so many different looks for Chau Kan over the last twenty years of Mortal Kombat. Like Lu Kang doesn't change, right, cha Kan seems to change with every game. I don't know. Looking at Chao Khan half of these pictures, he's bald and has a beard. I'm convinced that you didn't pipe type in make him look like me. He should look look like like me. Make me and show Khan look he's got a beard in this one. Got a big beard and a skull beard and the skull face in this one. Okay, this is my this is my character description for show Kan. Okay I said name Kan Kan is a large barbarian with sharp teeth and spikes on his barbarian armor. kN does not have horns. Do not depict kN with horns. Wear's a skull mask over his eyes in any one picture? Was there just a little mask over his eyes? No, there's one, just one. But he has a beard. He has a beard. Nowhere do I say to give him a beard. So I don't know why the AI I didn't even say that for Diablo and it started giving Diablo a little go tee. Well that makes sense, I guess canonically in terms of the image that he represents in folkl Orange. Yeah, maybe that's what I was going to say, Like that's maybe where they're getting that from. It's like ful chlorin, so it probably wasn't pulling from the blizzard like I don't know, they kept getting a little I was like, no one of his ghosts a horn in this one of them though. Image nine is frigging cool? Is that the face one pulling from the Tenacious D music, just standing there holding a flame in his hand. Image nine, ten and eleven really cool. And twelve Yes, they're just like comic style. Almost was like a pale boy like comic style. Very lots of black block shadows. There's a little rim lighting there. I mean, this is pretty damn good. Yeah, Diablo Diablo shots are sick. See the image fourteen between those the crystals in the back, like the blue crystals and then the dark and red in the front. Very very cool. Yeah. Image Image fourteen is one of my favorites. In here because it gets Shaukan pretty close. He's got like a helmet with horns on it. Kind of yes, that is cool picture and Diablem looks fucking awesome. The album looks so good in that one image. These look like David Finch dryings like these, I wonder if that's like it's looking at him. But then like neck in that one, his neck and the he looks like the muscles. Yeah, he looks like it's David Finch, like that's just what it is. That's so sick. That looks good. Yeah, But then after those, it's all beards on chau Khan and I never said once put a beard on him. And Diablo for the character, I said, Diablo is a large demon with red hard skin like it look like rocks, you know, like horns, and I said a molten heart, so I wanted kind of like a glow in his chest, which it did, and a lot of them I don't like how it put an actual like heart piece on his chest like that was kind of stupid, but some of them made it swear it was like a crack, like a glowing crack in his chest. That was sweet. I liked that. And then it gets it gets rid of those, It gets rid of them later on. Definitely fan of the of the Diablo subject quote unquote over the Shao Khan ones and these in these, this particular match, his heart looks fucking sick. And image twenty five, that's great. It's obviously going to be easier for the AI to make a Diablo. Yes, yeaes, there's more to pull from. There's more. There's just more. The more lore, you know, whether it's from Blizzard or not or not. Yeah, just like, who the fuck? It started looking like an orc? Yeah, and at the ending like he was or towards the end he was literally looked like Graham hell scream or something like image forty that's from World of Warcraft. Like, that's a World of Warcraft image. He's a green orc swimming swinging a giant an. He's like, what is this? Is that? Hell scream? And same with image thirty nine, he's just like he looks like a male paladin. He looks like a human paladin. Yeah, just knocks his Diablo's head off with it, but a stupid like what is that look like? So then it was thirty seven. I'm not sure who I'm looking at if you go to image thirty seven, Yeah, yeah, is that Diablo or is it cha? Con don't know, show Diablo. If you look at image thirty four Dash one and thirty four, those two were awesome. I was so sick that was what he was at golf in hell Fire. That was really cool. That was really cool. The hell fire where he's Image thirty five of Diablo's face is incredible. So sick that one, Yeah, that's yeah, it's very like it's not mirrored, but it is, like physically it's well it's not, no, it's not, but it just looks vermetrimetrical. Yeah, it might be mirrored. It looks exactly the same. But my favorite image of all of these was the last one I printed, which was forty six of Shao Khan. Was awesome. Yeah, the one I used on the thumbnail, Oh my god, it was so good. Yeah, that's the skull. The belt is super cool. His eight thousand abs, Yeah, just look like bubbles. Yeah. Yeah, strapping his shoulder pad on that's freaking cool. Man. Yeah, that one actually looks functional, like the strap on the shoulder, the shoulder armor goes around him. Man. With Diablo falling through the chasm, that is. That's quite cool. Yeah that was cool too. Yeah, yeah, that's so sick. The hand actually looks good in that one. His wings don't though, his his wings like the connection from his back to the wing looks like these globular globular arms or something little yeahs fatty arms. The way they did Shokan, or the way I tried to do Shakan is was extremely difficult. It gave me some good ones, but for the most part it was not consistent with the whole beard, the bald, the horns, the no horns like it was. It definitely gets mixed up because Diablo, I don't know again. Image forty one just an orc. Yeah, just a red skin to ork, that's all. It's like a straight straight out of order mar Yeah. Image forty two. Image forty two look like what the hell is like? Yeahpathetic, he's lost his horns. Yeah, yeah, that's not Diablo. They did put a mask on Chaokan, though. You can tell that's a mask since it's different colored from his skin. Oh my god, this is so funny, but yeah, really cool. Image forty three looks like Diablo is just about to take his fucking cock in his mouth. Yeah, it looks like it's missing from the Picture's a big right there. That's basically what happened. I didn't even notice that one. Oh my god. Wow. I mean, as we keep doing them, I don't know if it's even getting easier, Like, is it getting easier to do the prompt images? It depends on the character really, because the next one, which I don't think we're gonna announce, the next one, I think has the best art because the two characters are so iconic that everyone knows about it, the internet knows about it, that AI knows about them. I didn't have to do much to get these images to kick, you know, Okay cool? And I also did a cool thing where I animated them, which might bring a little bit more hushba hush, push push to the to the video, so that will be coming out next week. Okay cool. Well that's it. I think we're just chugging along here with these AI fights. We're gonna alter the prompts a bit more to see if we can get a little more consistency, maybe a little bit of variation in the storytelling and in the artwork, and hopefully the next one will be a little fresher. But The artwork for the next one is really cool, so stay tuned for that. It will be out soon. I think that's it. If you just popped into this episode by itself. Check out the other fights. We had Mario versus Pikachu, we had Link versus Dante, we had the Lych King versus Krados, and this match, for of course, was shau Kan versus the Apple. 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