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[00:00:02] Sorry, were you just going right then? I thought I had time for a quick cough You saw the counter! I'm going to let everyone hear you cough, I'm going to let everyone hear you cough before we start the show If I could sneak it in, Jesus Christ Nope It counts down 3, 2, 1, I get it, sometimes the body needs to cough I know, but a lot of times we count down 3, 2, 1, and then we still dick around for like two more minutes And then you're like, okay, let's go The 3, 2, 1 isn't the official, this is recording time

[00:00:31] Well, it is now, let's start the show Fuck Step into video game land Welcome to Fine Time

[00:01:03] Hello, party people, it's your boy, Dre Kevin, it's my boy I almost said Kevin is my boy Steve, that doesn't make any sense Kevin, it's my boy, Kevin Coughing like a bitch Coughing like a bitch, Steve You're right, Kevin is coughing like a bitch That's it? Just reconfirming What else was there to say? I mean, he's coughing like a bitch over there I'm a little concerned

[00:01:33] What's that Canadian healthcare doing up there? Do you guys remember that Godsmack song, Crying Like a Bitch? Do you remember that stupid song? I do not I was like, this is so fucking dumb I was like, I don't know, maybe I was just like At that point, I was just like the wrong age for Godsmack But like, you know, because that first Godsmack record came out I was like 17, I was still in high school I was like, oh yeah, you know That was kind of the shit, but then It was Was that like when Like Voodoo, was that on the first

[00:02:04] Yes Album? Okay Yes Yeah, because they definitely had a downturn to like You know, where 12 year olds would be like Oh fuck, this is cool Yeah, for sure But yeah, but if I were 12 Crying like a bitch would have been like My anthem My national My personal national anthem I guess we could talk about video games I definitely do not want to do a podcast about Godsmack Like that is not, that is not a band I, um The Godcast

[00:02:33] Yeah, Godcast Podsmack I already named it for you Now you have to do like 69 episodes Do they? I mean I am, I am doing a REM podcast right now Not specifically, but we are going through REM And they have 15 records They're doing an album, uh, a show So like, if Godsmack had 69 albums I think I would die I think I would actually fall over

[00:03:02] How many do they have? I don't know I would guess like 7 or 8 Okay, actually Okay, before we get started on video games How many records does Godsmack have Without going over, Kevin? I think you're probably pretty close I'm gonna go I'm gonna say 7 7? Steve? I'll be the Price is Right jerk and say 6 Okay, 6 Survey says Well, and you, okay, so you said 7 or 8 So is your guess 8?

[00:03:33] Oh, um, I'll say 7 I'll stick at 7 Okay Okay, survey says 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 They have 8 albums So Well, obviously Steve is highly uneducated What can I do? I gotta go to Godsmack bootcamp now I guess That would be the worst shit Wait, can you imagine That would be one of their music videos

[00:04:03] Like a shitty bootcamp Like, oh, we're going through the Like, can you imagine that in the early 2000s? Because a lot of videos were like that It's like some hard-ass Godsmack songs plays And guys are like, you know Climbing walls and doing the rope thing And crawling under the, you know, trench Grimacing real hard Yeah, yeah Sleep on shitty bunks with like one thin blanket And just because Godsmack you're suffering Making us tough Yeah And it was post 9-11, you know

[00:04:32] So all that military rah-rah bullshit Was like kind of in vogue So like, yeah That would be I was going to ask if that was why But yeah, I guess so Of course it's why That's always why Until like at least 2006 That's always why Anyway, video games, am I right? So I played an indie game A little thing called Europa

[00:05:04] So Steve About a year and a half ago I don't know if you remember this We played the demo of this game Do you remember this? It was on a Nintendo Indie Direct Is it that game that You were a little spaceman That really shouldn't have been on Switch But it was anyway Yeah That's why I played it on Steam Deck That's exactly what happened The demo's on Switch Now No, I don't think I'm going to be doing that Look at this game I'll check if it's on Steam And it was And we both played it

[00:05:33] And we enjoyed it Yeah, it was very like Open fields Green grass And you kind of float around And fly a bit Jump real high Not ringing a bell No, I remember I mean Not with any real fondness Because I was playing it on Switch But I'm like Man I wonder I hope they gave this guy A Super Switch dev kit And now we don't have to Oh my god I'm so glad We don't have to say Super Switch anymore Even though you just said it Oh my god

[00:06:02] We're going to bring that conversation up again In five years No, we can't go Okay We can't go Switch Switch 2 Then Super Switch No, no Have you seen what fucking Xbox is doing? It's fine Switch Series S So yeah And I Here's the thing I played that demo And I liked it But I forgot what the game was Because I forgot to wish list it on Steam afterwards

[00:06:32] So I don't know Something tugged in the back of my head A couple weeks ago I was like Wait, what was What was that game we played? And then I looked through my Steam wish list It wasn't there So I had to actually go back through our episodes And find where we talked about that game Which didn't take long Thank you Me and the past For doing really good timestamps And So I found it It's called Europa It came out last October And I'm just now playing it

[00:07:01] Because I just remembered what it was So It's kind of like what I said What this game is Is basically a chill adventure game Really chill Where you jump really high You fly over and through Very grassy green plains And Far too often these days When we see games With big open green grassy plains Everyone's mind just goes to Breath of the Wild immediately For some reason That just became the zeitgeist of Here's some green grassy shit And usually that's something I

[00:07:31] Kind of chastise Because I'm like Come on Can we have better references to stuff? Please Get better references But honestly In this case It's true It really is And especially with like It's heavily cel-shaded look It's very stylized It's very For lack of a better term Indie It looks kind of exactly Whatever you're thinking It looks like That's probably exactly What it looks like It's very artistic It has this like Watercolor effect Over everything I don't know if it's like

[00:08:00] A shader Or it's just like All the textures were made To look watercolory It's not overbearing It's not It's not God forbid Babylon's Fall Or something like that It's not even It's not even like The way Stuff in Especially Tears of the Kingdom Can Because obviously They knew they had to make The textures low res They made them like Very watercolory looking And very painterly Painterly is kind of The word we use It's kind of like Chia Art style wise Yeah Yeah

[00:08:29] I would say it's like Chia And that's kind of What I was after I just wanted something Cool to look at That didn't really Challenge me too much After the last month Of me playing stuff Like Slitterhead And tons of Mario Kart World I'm like really You know Intense stuff I'm like I just want to I want to chill out With something And this was like The perfect thing But yeah The Breath of the Wild Stuff is unavoidable I mean there's even I'll put it this way There's a chapter Called Ancient Battlefield Where you deactivate

[00:08:59] A bunch of Rusted over guardians Who are like Laser sighting you And are going to Shoot you If you don't Hide behind something Does that sound Familiar at all? That's a little Fucking on the nose Actually Did they break out The piano for that? Oh The whole game Is piano music That's the entire soundtrack It's very serene Floating Twinkly piano Few strings here and there But yeah Kind of like What you were complaining about What's the game you played

[00:09:28] Where every song is piano? I am Satsuno But if you have strings That's already more instruments Than that game Well yeah But in this game It fits In Europa You want that kind of piano music So yeah You do You do want that And it works But Europa Is not an action game Or anything like that Despite what I just said About the guardians There's no weapons There's no enemies To defeat Like directly anyway So there's no combat And the guardians I mentioned earlier

[00:09:57] They can't even kill you With their laser blasts They just like They just like Knock you over You get stunned for a bit So you just mildly Inconvenience you From your goal You know So they They really Want you to succeed here And you know what I was looking Seeing the options There's actually An option to turn That shit off completely So there's no threats Whatsoever To get in your way Even though you can't Die in this game So if you want to Turn that down Even further You can Which is You know

[00:10:27] That's fine You know They want you to Just fly through And see this Beautiful world But not too Much of this Beautiful world So Because here's the thing Seeing how This is an indie game And it obviously Probably had a tight budget They're not going to Just let you Roam around this landscape This is not An open world game Where you just kind of Fly around and do whatever This is very level focused And go forward focused You do have freedom There are big zones

[00:10:57] Right? But you can't Like Just fly off Into nowhere They're going to push you back Some invisible force Is going to Ooh the wind just picked up You know They're not going to Let you get too far off track Which is Fine They want you to Push forward And that's good But The flying and the floating Is the point And just seeing the environment Which is what you get to do It's very I think the Like I said It's very heavily cel-shaded

[00:11:27] There's like It's clearly Ghibli inspired With like the Sketches And the sketchbook And like the main character Hisself Like it's very Obviously That's where they got it from But yeah It really does strike This delicate balance Between like being chill Versus like being boring You know Because like I said You can't die There's not really any combat So how do you like How do you make that interesting One way to do that Is have a fun little story Which

[00:11:55] Which Europa does have Although Hey Steve Stop me if you heard this one before They were building a utopia In the sky And then it all went wrong Somehow What Who could have predicted This would happen What Oh man What are the odds It's never happened before Not Not Not Not the hubris Of man Fucking things up Oh geez No

[00:12:24] They left Earth Because Earth was bad Right They are All they did was start war And humans are terrible So we're gonna start our own thing Up here Well Hmm Never seems to work out Does it But yeah It's that kind of story But honestly I love that kind of thing You'll always get me with that Whether it's Ease Whether it's anything Right So Yeah That That works for me And there's Only one narrator One voice actor But it's well acted

[00:12:52] And it's clear that they put the money into that You know And It's very It's very good Um I don't really have any criticisms Of this game The only thing I might be able to say Is that like You can jump Right And then you have to like You can hold down the button And then do like a charge jump But the regular jump Isn't good for fucking anything I think like The charge jump Should have just been The regular jump height And that's it I don't think they

[00:13:21] Because it makes things a little awkward Because like 90% of the time I'm just using the charge jump To go from place to place So it's like Just let me regularly jump that way But Shit I probably I should have looked more in the accessibility options Maybe that would have been in there Like auto charge jump So I can just press a button That would have been A lot nicer Um Okay Here's one thing I'm going to ask you guys So Because I Look I don't really have a whole lot more to say about Europa It's really fun It was a few hours long

[00:13:51] It's $15 So If you have something that is not Switch Definitely Go Go try this out If you want a chill little adventure indie game It's definitely worth it Here's what I want to end with I gave everyone a pass earlier For saying Europa looks like Breath of the Wild What I won't give everyone a pass for Is Comparing it to Journey Why do we compare everything to fucking Journey, man? You guys know the Journey, right?

[00:14:20] Like the PS3 Like indie game That made its way to other things too Um Every like artistically minded Like Looks like a big world But really isn't Like go forward Kind of game Always gets Journey And it's been 15 years since that game Like can we start comparing stuff to other things, please? Like How about play more than one indie game? There Yeah, I think I'm with you I think I'm with you Like Journey To me

[00:14:48] Journey doesn't like define itself by the gameplay structure Like Journey is about the vibe Mm-hmm And I get it Like Europa is definitely a vibes game as well And it's similarly short And it's like Look, I'm not saying he took nothing from Journey Obviously Like that game inspired a lot of other indie games Of course it did Right? At the same time Can we just I don't know Steve, am I being an old man Or is this fair to me? No, you're You're being fair

[00:15:18] I also haven't played Journey But I think you were being a little bit of an old man When you were complaining about Breath of the Wild comparisons I mean In general I'm saying If something's a good comparison It's a good comparison People are always gonna You know Compare it to something familiar Because You know When you're talking to somebody Man, what's this game like? I don't know Isn't usually a good answer So, you know You're gonna pick something Something somewhat familiar Five times official stance Is that Europa is a flower-like

[00:15:51] Yes I fucking love flower, by the way Great game Okay, guys Unlike Andre My Switch two times didn't end yet I threw the system in the trash

[00:16:20] I just couldn't bear to spend Five hundred plus dollars On games Systems and upgrades And things To just stop playing the game And I did kind of tease at the end That I would for this time So here we are Talking about Fantasy Life I The Girl That Steals Time At least I hope we're pronouncing that I there Because why wouldn't you call it two? Actually, I know why we're not calling it two Anyway Can I just say up front Before you get started If you don't mind

[00:16:49] I've been seeing very mixed reception Of this game online Like very mixed I know it got good reviews But people online have also been Kind of About it too So I'm very looking forward To what you have to say about this Because I want to know If the people online Are just being bitchy As people online often are Or if it's really as good As reviews say So that's That's my stance on this Well, we'll We'll We'll Get there Piece by piece But first I think we should recap

[00:17:18] Because It's been a few years Andre Like Because fairly early in our lifespan A whole bunch of studios Were shutting down And we were all just sitting here Going Oh man It's going to be any day For level five Right They're going to come out And say Okay We're shutting down We're bankrupt No more games from us And then they Came on A Nintendo Direct With three game announcements Out of fucking nowhere Mm-hmm And it took some time For release dates to come up And we're still waiting For Deka Police

[00:17:48] To get a date of some kind But You know Fantasy Life Eye It's here It got delayed by another year That they It was supposed to be out A year ago But it's here now Deka Police was supposed To be out in 24 So I know we're not seeing it This year So I think all their plans Got thrown off But yeah We were The revival of level five Was very exciting to us And Layton's due out This Christmas Believe me I'm already planning That post-game show Anyway We'll start in the beginning Of this game

[00:18:17] Fantasy Life Eye You You Create a Create a character Working for an archaeologist No Not Professor Layton Yes He's an archaeologist But This is a different archaeologist Professor Layton's an archaeologist? Yes Oh I only played the first one So I guess I didn't know that Yeah They don't bring that up Directly till the second game Okay You're looking into cursed happenings Going on in archipelago At different points in time And because You know You're just a schmo Not anyone too special You know You just Made someone

[00:18:47] Build a character After all You know Not even as good as The one in Street Fighter 6 You kind of need to Take up a class Or several They're called lives In this game You don't have classes You have lives Is this to imply Like the different lives You lead Or in like different time periods Or something Or like No it's kind of weird You take them all up In this one guild In the same period There's Fourteen in all And two are locked By story progression But it's kind of weird

[00:19:16] How they set it up Okay And you need all of these Lives to deal with monsters And otherwise participate In the past society But they You can Take up a life Wherever you want What are the classes of lives? Like what How do they Categorize them? Well there's Three different kinds There's a Combat And gathering And crafting They're all neatly Aligned in columns And I'll tell you How that fucked me over Because I wasn't Looking at them That closely Because the first one I picked was

[00:19:46] The angler class Which you might be able To deduce is for fishing You get a cute little Fish hat and everything And yeah You gain experience By fishing And you get better stats With better rods And It's not like Animal Crossing Where you just Dip your fish Where the shadow is And then you get fish out You have to like Wear down a meter And then you get fish out And you can do that Better with better rods And better stats Of course you can You know Sometimes get better rods From enemy drops But you can

[00:20:14] Also build your own rods With the carpenter class Hey So then It almost sort of Becomes like An Octopath Junior Where You start Being compelled To take on The beginning scenarios Of each life So you unlock The different perks That come with it That sounds interesting Yeah I think so I mean like Could you imagine Being the weirdo In Octopath That says Nah let's skip This opening part Because you can do That here too I would never

[00:20:44] I've never done that In Octopath I would never do that In this game either I mean you can do that In this game After you do the first one But I recommend Doing all the tutorial Chapters just because It tells you Shows you where things Are to do things Like all the people You'll be interacting With to do stuff So Yeah All the people You played as Did you make All those decisions To maximize Your effectiveness As an angler Look everything Is Goes back to fishing Kevin But

[00:21:13] Yeah that's what I thought I need to get Better rods Better Bigger Thicker rods Kevin Come on Of course Hot Yeah I mean Alternatively If you're in a rush To blow through The story Yeah there is A story here However Rudimentary I'd recommend Taking one each Of a battle Gathering and crafting Life so you have A mix of talents Because otherwise You're me Going through a Short chunk Of the scenario

[00:21:42] With a stick As the I think they call It the newcomer Class where it's Just you wearing A hat because You didn't pick Any of the combat Lives and you're Just smacking Monsters with a Thing for a while And it's like Well this sucks You don't whoop Their ass with The fishing rod No it's weird Because in the First fantasy Life game you Did fight in Non-combat classes Like not very Well but you Like had Rudimentary knives And things you Could fight with Yeah because

[00:22:12] Like a fisher Would have a Knife to gut a Fish or something Like that you Know I mean Here they don't And honestly That's okay Because you Outfit you Can outfit yourself By life on The fly And you Could You'll just Snap yourself To the proper Class depending On what you're Doing which is Good because All the lives Have their own Experience to earn Which is much Better than the Original game when You had to go Back to the Guild and say Okay I'm done Fishing I want To be a chef For the next Few hours You know that's What I was going To ask you

[00:22:41] So you did play The original game Yes and I have Mixed opinions About that That that would Be its own Podcast for Okay yeah I Wasn't I wasn't Aware that you Had but this Is much better For the obsessive Types where okay I'm fishing now You put all your Duds on and You go fishing Okay now I'm Building carpenter Shit I'm got my Saw out okay Chopping down Trees here's my Lumberjack shit And it just all Changes very Conveniently when It's time to do Things the only You have like Different outfits And shit do You have like

[00:23:11] Yes you You can That's good He just said You put your Duds on I think that The duds Cleared that up Oh I Was just thinking Like because he Was talking about The implements Like the saw Or the fishing Okay I guess Sorry I missed The duds I apologize Duds is Clothes specific Sorry And you even Make your own Better clothing Later if you Take up all Those classes Too but That all Comes by Later And yes I owe

[00:23:41] The superpod Discord an Apology because I was sharing Screenshots there And I was Getting some Word from Someone else That played it That it was Kind of like Animal Crossing And I wasn't Getting it at First and I'm Like man I Don't know what You people are Talking about I don't know But a number Of hours in They start you In on a Town building Scenario In the present Where And it's like A number of Hours in like Six hours in Or so Where you need To start building Houses for party Members that help You do

[00:24:10] Life stuff Like Oh man There's a Really big Rock over here Time to bring Some extra Miners if you Want to Get this Big rock Smash before Without maxing Out your Miner stat in Advance or Whatever But you know You gotta build Them houses And things And then once You build them Houses and Things like Man you know It would be Great if you Built me Some pants I'm like Oh my god This is sort Of like Animal Crossing And that Way This isn't This is more

[00:24:40] Of a fuck I didn't get To that part Yet so much As a fuck I was wrong But it's worth Bringing up I'm sorry Superpod discord You don't Remember who Do you want to Shout out the Person Yeah a bunch Of people were Getting on my Case that day About that I'm sorry Yeah you You definitely Okay fuck I was wrong Right here on The air That's nice This sounds Fun I would be Into this Yeah I'm Having a good Time so really With the additional Caveat that I Really have a Whole lot of Bias against the Original

[00:25:10] For a whole Bunch of Reasons Yes this The wait For this game Was worth It I've heard a Lot of things Across the Board that The switch Version has Performance issues Big surprise That's our Indirect theme For today The switch One has Problems with Recent Released games I mean I Wouldn't know That here I mean if I Was a Masochist I could Have tried It I do Have The physical Copy Where I Guess I Could have Booted it

[00:25:40] Up before I paid Three bucks For the Upgrade Pack But I'm not That dumb And I'm Not gonna Go back And try But I Mean that Said there Is no Hiding That this Is a Switch Game That's Juiced Up for Nicer Hardware No matter What other Version you're Buying You know it's A lot of Smaller contained Areas that You know it Wouldn't be If it started Life there And also You do get A strange Tablet That you Know is Your menu And keeps Track of Things and

[00:26:10] You guys Wouldn't Believe what It looks Like Let me Guess it Looks like A steam Deck No Oh so So close We But uh We got a Box of Crackers waiting For you on The way Home Thanks for Playing though Thank you But uh Townhouse or Ritz One of Each Thank you But you Know if We're being Honest it's

[00:26:39] A goofy Open world Dungeon Crawly With some Crafting and Other Activities You know Like Fishing You know It's Simple-ish I mean You know Some of The actual Things you Do feel A little Repetitive Like the Crafting Activities You know Have Rudimentary Mini Games That do Get Repetitive And When you Build the Skill trees Up It gets You know Simpler To do Over time But you Know it's It's fun Enough If it Sounds Appealing To you It probably Will be But you Know like

[00:27:09] Andre said For Europa Don't play This on Switch One Okay so Like for Full disclosure This is a Switch game You're playing On Switch Two This is not A native This is not A Switch Two game No this Is a Switch Two game This is a Switch Two game I paid Three dollars For an Upgrade Back So Okay Okay so The target Frame rate Has to Be 60 Then It Runs Beautifully On Switch Two Okay You're not Going to Give me That number Huh You're not Gonna

[00:27:39] No it's 60 Okay I need I need That number My favorite Number Is 60 I want To ask Art direction Wise Because I Seen some Footage of This not Too long Ago And to

[00:28:10] Be Brownie Brownie Working On it They Don't Exist Anymore And It's Brownie Brown Wow A big Chug of Why I'm Biased Word By the way Look on Unseen 64 For what The game Used to Look like But Anyway Aren't They Now Didn't They Become Brownies Or Is That A Different Company Oh No They Split Into Two There's One Up Company And Brownies Oh Man Okay What A Mess Yeah They Don't Even Exist Anymore And

[00:28:40] Neither One Worked On This Game From What I Can Tell It's That Way It's Messy But I Think This Game Is Perfectly Fine You You You You Kind Of Sold Me I Think I'm Interested In This Now Even On Switch Two I Didn't Know There Was An Actual Switch Two Version Yeah It's A Switch Two Version I Like I Said On The Other Show I I Don't Know VGP

[00:29:09] Messed Up I Think They Had A Weird Sale On I Got It I Don't Have Any Games To Talk About This Week

[00:29:39] Because I've Still Been Playing Mario Kart And Cyberpunk And I've Been Replaying Mario Odyssey But I Have An Official Announcement That I need To Make Before We Move On I Have Multiple Times Throughout The I I I Glad The Switch Two Is As Big As It Is

[00:30:09] But It Is Uncomfortable In My Arms To Hold And Andre Was Like Just Do The Tabletop Mode And I I'm Going To Be Honored I Think Because I've Always Been Resistant To Tabletop Mode Specifically From My Very Initial Reaction To The Very First Switch Present When I I Was doing that in bed sometimes I'll lay on my side and just hold the joy cons you know whatever wherever my arms want to go they're not spread out too wide from

[00:30:39] holding the large switch too and sometimes I will prop the I'll lay on my back and I'll prop the switch two up on my tummy and I will put my arms behind my head in sexy pose and even on the couch where it's not as bad because I have an armrest but I've started I think this is why it's so nice that the switch has a bigger screen because I think with the switch one that if I would have put it on the coffee table it would have been just a little bit too far away and looked a little bit too small but with the switch two screen

[00:31:09] tabletop mode on the coffee table while sitting on the couch is fucking totally viable so go three modes of play finally you've come around yes I mean that's the thing you just said it it's not even just the fact that like I have the screen just sitting there it's really just holding the joy cons too it's half of it's half of it for me that's just the way I love to play switch is just holding the joy cons not in the grip but just holding the two of them I've always preferred playing that way

[00:31:39] more than the pro controller and look I love using the pro controller and I think the pro controller too is great too it's a great improvement and sometimes I want to do that too but a lot of times especially if I'm just out and about obviously I'm not bringing a pro controller it's just I don't know man it's the premiere way to play I thought I was gonna try it out just out of curiosity and and it's that's definitely been my go-to probably like 80% of the time when I'm not docked now

[00:32:08] I still can't do it for you know more controller based video games I still need that in handheld mode but for Civ 7 and I'm playing that portably I it's tabletop mode time kickstand out my one mouse and one hotkey button thing and like yeah so I want to I want to explore that a little bit are you doing that like in bed ever are you are you like doing the mouse on your thigh or on bed sheets or is that does that have to be like at the desk experience

[00:32:37] I've been doing it tables mostly I still need to get something a bit more stable I've tried it in bed a few times but between I mean it works on the sheets I just don't like it and then you know curious dogs I brought up the curious dogs before but that's why it doesn't work on my gut I mean in theory it works on my gut but then it's like hey Steve what you doing you're playing a video game how's that working out for you it's just dog tongues and belly buttons

[00:33:07] and it's too distracting for civilization yeah it'd be worse if you were if you had curious cats because I tell you what you're moving your hand like that with a mouse oh it's playtime it is playtime you guys want to know something weird the and I don't I've never tried like a regular mouse but the joy-con mice do not work on my coffee table it's like a like fake like faux marble coffee table and so it's like mostly black with like white like marbly streaks

[00:33:35] but it and it'll like it will kind of work but it'll like lose connection and the mouse will jump around so I just I can't fucking mouse on the coffee table which I thought was weird oh that's weird before I had the welcome tour tell me how the mouse worked I'm like this isn't working on our glass coffee table I'm like oh that's why because it's the cameras underneath that's doing the thing if it's not seeing the thing yeah and I don't think any does any mouse work on glass

[00:34:04] outside of like the old ball mouse like I don't I don't think that's a good proposition for anything I've never tried it until the other week so yeah do they even sell ball mice anymore mice with balls oh I don't think so oh I don't know yeah I haven't seen one of those in fucking at least since the 2010s if I'm being real because I used to buy those just because they were so cheap even as you started having the laser mice they still sold ball mice

[00:34:34] in the 2010s no in the 2000s I mean I mean like oh okay I'm talking like 2005, 6, 7 or whatever yeah yeah okay yeah no I haven't bought I haven't bought a ball mouse since I would say 2009 or something but yeah okay um it's summertime you need to cool off how about a shower oh yeah Steve well it's gotta be a cool one well no shit duh

[00:35:03] let's get in it's time to hit the showers we'll be right back on fire time

[00:36:06] alright we're back we're cooled off it's a nice cold shower we're refreshed balls are tight but I'll get over it Steve had fun yeah we had fun it was nice it was soapy you know what we should you know what we should install in our shower we need like the thing like at the car wash that like foams up the car like the gun the foam gun you know oh okay yeah but not the like big rollers that automatic car washes that might be a lot of much no no I think that would scare the shit out of me but like I it's bad for my skin

[00:36:36] but I feel like the foam gun would be fine I think that's bad for everyone's skin foam gun for sure I'll put that on the wish list I think you gotta be careful where you like aim that foam gun though because there's certain players you don't want foam in yeah well I mean it might be a little pressurized you know you don't want to like really you don't have to go to the doctor and be like my friend accidentally shot the foam gun up my dick hole yeah I mean look look I'm just gonna say this car washes

[00:37:05] have been the same since well before any of us were born as you can tell from any car wash that's been around for a while that shit looks like it's there since like 1965 and it you know of course it probably has been those guns those foam guns you're telling me in the last 60 years nobody's gotten foam gunned up their dick hole absolutely it's probably happened yeah playing around at the car wash at night or something like that I mean come on if we're investing in this I insist we get a safety sign that installs on the wall of the shower that says

[00:37:34] foam gun aiming must be above the waistline yeah waste it up like boxing you know you really want it to be fine time HR would insist on that anyways which is me so yes I will definitely insist on that alright Steve we got something to eat we be eating um yeah it's something alright uh you know I always introduce what the thing is why don't you tell the people where we're eating this week

[00:38:07] um I can't really dance around this one Andre we got Selena Gomez Oreos Selena Gomez Oreos so I saw these on social media as one does and someone at the grocery store is holding them up it's like oh hell yeah I found them and I'm like so I posted it to our fine time chat and I'm like guys and Steve found them Kevin could not find them I guess maybe they're not available in Canada

[00:38:36] nah it doesn't appear so I looked but no no luck yeah so just me and Steve they're gonna eat these Selena Gomez Oreos Steve can you name a single Selena Gomez song because I can't Andre I gotta be honest with you my Selena Gomez references go back to when my little sister watched Wizards of Waverly Place and more recently when she's on Only Murders of the Building I really don't know so much

[00:39:06] about her career otherwise yeah I'm I'm very unfamiliar with her work musically it's just not a strain of pop music I have ever delved into so I've I mean look I've probably heard Selena Gomez songs but not knowingly you know so they're small it's like a small package I'm picking it up right now I gotta level with you Andre I pay I don't know how it is on where you but out here I paid as much

[00:39:35] for this as I normally do for my normal choice the family size what they call family size double stuff okay it's a bigger package it's a slightly bigger package for the same price yeah this is definitely small they also okay I'm gonna make a prediction before I open this I think they're gonna be thin like the Oreo thin Oreos you know can you guys tell me before

[00:40:05] you crack them open is there any descriptor on the package like giving you are they like you know in small print does it say black cherry flavored Oreos or anything or is just the expectation that these are Selena Gomez flavored Oreos yeah like it says okay it says Selena's chocolate and cinnamon cream cookies so Selena's chocolate and cinnamon cream her particular do you okay fuck that sounds good yeah it does sound good that's why I wanted to try these

[00:40:35] Steve do you think she actually formulated these or it's just all marketing do you you didn't you know they went to her house and they're like okay this is Selena's stash of chocolate and we're going to use this to make this limited batch batch of Oreos that's why it's a limited time product because you know we're stealing her chocolate to make these cookies you don't think there's any chance that not only did she

[00:41:04] like donate the chocolate or or or taste some red dye number seven then like went to Oreo HQ and actually did the dirty work herself oh like I had lab coat and goggles and everything yeah yeah they could be fucking poison because she I guarantee Selena Gomez does not know how to develop food I

[00:41:47] right now for what I'm about to say I hope this is not a racially motivated comment but I'm sorry it needs to be said am I wrong for hoping these taste like horchata so I

[00:42:17] sweet and like cinnamon and like almost like churro vibes a little bit but like less sweet than that but like a like a milk drink fuck that sounds good too it's very good stuff yeah I'm hoping these Oreos taste like that okay don't cancel me all right you know what else I'm noticing now that I'm staring at this package for a few minutes now there's no pull tab like all the other modern Oreo packages mine has a pull tab it's right on the left here it might be kind of hidden

[00:42:49] it's right next to the S oh there it is yeah I didn't notice it till today either so I don't blame you for like a full like

[00:43:18] darker chocolate Oreo yeah yeah there seems to be an emblem like a heart oh they're different emblems different Oreos have different emblems this one has like a heart on fire or something this one's got music notes okay I can't wait anymore they smell good you want to take a bite yeah let's go let's go

[00:43:50] this is good yeah I'm into this okay full Steve hates everything minute here I don't usually like all the Oreo flavors out there the your key limes and your cherry sodas and the and

[00:44:20] the mints or whatever and all the other ones out there those can all go to hell I feel like the Oreo is already the most perfect store bought cookie you can get already this is pretty good this is so good what does this say Selena T O R S Selena tour Selena tours is that like a fan club thing is that where fans are called Selena tours is that what it says on

[00:44:50] the cookie that's what it says yeah the music note it has letters I'm going to have this is it as good or better than regular Oreos I don't know about that it's different personally I'd rather have this on a regular Oreo myself damn you got a little bit of cream in your beard there Andre hot probably left over from the shower session

[00:45:22] here's here's the thing I like Oreos I like my favorite I get like a hankering for Oreos like once a year or so and unlike Steve I do like the flavors especially the lemon because I like lemon everything these are so good damn oh headphones that's what these are I think they're headphones I'm gonna have one more put these away

[00:45:52] before keeping them these are so good they don't taste like horchata that's for sure but they're very good they're not too cinnamony which is something I'm kind of sensitive to I don't like things that are too cinnamony but these are just the right amount of cinnamon I like them but I keep saying this for these things I don't think I'll be rushing back to the store for these before they get discontinued I don't think I'm gonna cry when they do get

[00:46:22] discontinued I don't think I'm gonna be going on the crusade to say look just make cinnamon oreos I would yeah it's no they'll have to use their

[00:46:52] own and then it won't be the same it'll be like when they try to bring back jello pudding pops in the 2000s and it was just like not the same as like the 90s ones I it sounds like it's a fudgesicle made by jello

[00:47:22] and there was like vanilla and chocolate but they were so fucking good they were the best any any fudgesicle or anything of that kind the jello ones were just so good and then they just stopped making them I don't know why I just thought like growing up I just thought we stopped buying them for whatever reason it made me sad no they just disappeared because we used to get them anyway yeah selena gomez oreos absolute thumbs up from me steve yeah thumbs up from me too go try

[00:47:51] fine time all right guys nintendo released a surprise video on the nintendo today app kevin they did exactly what you wanted they dropped some big news who knew that they would start doing that after the new console came out oh jeez man who knew i just seen this on social media because i had deleted the nintendo today widget off of my home screen by this point

[00:48:21] wow dude you better put it back on because now you're getting stuff okay but how often are we getting stuff do i gotta check this every day for once every three weeks where there's a nugget of information is taking up real estate on my home screen oh my god this guy but i

[00:48:55] had it

[00:49:32] it about that okay i'm with kevin on that we're ganging up on you sorry but don't don't go away because i need you for this segment anyway on the nintendo today app they showed a video of a couple of splatoon related things okay one was like they're updating splatoon 3 for switch 2 not like a native app but oh my god the

[00:50:04] second after you get out of like hours of 60 frames a second hot action of turf war or clam blitz or whatever else you

[00:50:34] the worst examples of like going between frame rates where it was so fucking glaringly obvious yeah and i get why had to do it because a lobby has to look like a lobby and you know have characters in it and stuff but still i'm glad they i'm glad they did that number two though and more importantly they announced a game for switch two called splatoon raiders okay wasn't really expecting that they didn't show much but

[00:51:03] it's clear that the graphics are an asset flip of splatoon 3 so we're just working off of that base and the voice over did literally call it a side game so we should temper our expectations here but guys what the fuck is splatoon raiders we have no idea what this game actually is even though we seen it with our own two whys so Steve would you even have a guess what is this game gonna be man I mean

[00:51:33] based on what we've seen it's probably gonna be a roguelike I know that we just did a roguelike inside order the which was the meat of the DLC in Splatoon 3 which you you know I would say that's the fastest way to have a single player asset flip in the year of our lord 2025 early 2026

[00:52:04] I mean I'll be in for that or really anything they do here really I'm hoping for some goodies that go into Splatoon 4 but almost like two and a half and we need to like I don't know we need something else I think Kevin and I think I'm agreeing go ahead I think by showing

[00:52:34] this off at this point before they do like a full direct you know other than Bonanza direct post switch to literally just looks like Splatoon 3 but they're doing something else with it it could just be Splatoon 3 DLC for all we knew but it's not this is a Switch 2 exclusive game so that's not the

[00:53:04] case though Steve I agree with you I'm calling roguelike on this one also it makes the most sense you know and it's like you said they did that in Splatoon 3 what side order not yes okay for some reason I was thinking it's an octop almost an octopath expansion and octo expansion in Splatoon 2 I feel like we can never talk about that without saying octopath expansion but yeah I know they did that already

[00:53:34] but this can be even more robust I think like I feel like they can make a much bigger scale like you guys have seen Elden sort of battle royale roguelike thing with it like a three player thing I think this game is absolutely going to be that and I think it's going to be cheap I think it's going to be 40 bucks or 50 bucks at max I

[00:54:15] bring it I don't think this is going to be that though Steve I don't think it's going to be 70 or 80 but even if it was side order was stacked and that was attached to a $30 season pass essentially for Splatoon 3 so I don't think we're going to get skimped out on things to do in Splatoon Raiders if we're being real here you know I

[00:54:45] but they were very specific in the text for this that you play as in the role of a mechanic so my prediction is that there is going to

[00:55:15] no like during the entire life of this game Steve they kept buffing reef sliders so I don't every patch update was we made the reef slider even better basically it's like come on man anyway Kevin I

[00:55:46] I think that would be great like if we had risk reward you can keep going further but you might lose all your shit yeah if you get back you get to jack up your vehicle and get even further next time yeah so that's that's exactly it yeah so you can play it safe only going a few floors and taking forever or you could really go for it whatever this is I'm interested I'm always here for Splatoon so Splatoon Raiders please happen this year I want to go back to the Splatoon 3

[00:56:15] upgrade news for a little bit because we had a little side pretty staunchly like it's time for Splatoon 4 in the first year or so of Switch I I think it's time for Splatoon 4

[00:56:45] I do I think the fact that there was a five year gap between Splatoon 2 and 3 was unprecedented I for Tears of the Kingdom and whatever but yeah Steve I think it's time for Splatoon 4 I think Splatoon 3 had its run these characters were fun the whole thing was great we had our

[00:57:15] DLC I think Kevin if they yeah I think so too and they're still running events they are still re-running splat fests and big runs and things

[00:57:45] like that already we would have seen the Switch 2 version of this by now or at least heard about it I think this time next year we will be doing our big deal what we've been playing on Splatoon 4 Oh so you think it's happening okay so Splatoon Raiders really has to come out soon then I think I mean yeah after what you were saying about you know announcements and things bleeding to this holiday then

[00:58:15] that makes sense right we play the Splatoon Raiders and then at the end thing at the end of the Splatoon Raiders where it's like the end dot dot dot question mark in the we don't do that anymore used to be a proper society Kevin anyway

[00:58:44] I know you guys we've talked about this before and you've disagreed with me I understand that the switch generation was an unusually long generation but I still maintain that to me Splatoon feels like it should be a once per generation you know main entry type of franchise I I don't feel that way because I feel like the concept of Splatoon can be so ever changing I feel like

[00:59:14] here's what I well here's what I'm also going to say I feel like Splatoon 4 isn't going to really be like the first three I feel like it's going to be yeah we're still going to have turf war we're still going have whatever but I think we're going to really trick it up it's going to be very familiar

[00:59:45] I some fun stuff I'll just say that you think and obviously this is a way out there question but do you think seeing Splatoon 5 at some point in the life cycle would be too much at that point no I don't think so if if 2030 rolls around and we have Splatoon 5 no I

[01:00:24] experience because they were just standing around the desert but that's another story but Splatoon 3 made me a multi entry per gen truther it can it's fine if they really got the stuff for it it should be like Mario Party we should have a few Mario Parties per system you know yeah they're iterative yeah you do largely the same thing but I think like Mario Party doesn't get old because you can make all sorts of wild

[01:00:53] boards to do all sorts of wild things I don't think that's a concept that is run dry obviously you made like 15 Mario Parties right so like I feel like the same is for Splatoon as long as they come up with stages and

[01:01:25] Splatoon 5 will come out and I will say this is the best game I've ever played in my whole life okay I don't have a whole lot for this but this is just one of those big questions where

[01:02:05] we again 22,000 copies have been sold on Xbox platforms across all platforms 22k folks lol I mean okay obviously the reason why I want to talk about this is because on this show I've always rejected all the bullshit about like platform exclusives don't make any sense everything should be multi platforms so

[01:02:35] all the companies can sell all the copies we're proving that that's not true I've never thought that was true being on more platforms doesn't mean you sell more copies of stuff that has never been

[01:03:05] I this number is so low I'm having a hard time even lol about it I think if we would have come on here and we would have known the number and you would have said Kevin and Steve this is what happened how many and you could have said this game sold abysmally poorly how low do you think the sales were for like a main line numbered Final fantasy on like a

[01:03:34] well we've been seeing this before in Xbox land where the Xbox version just means we're not going to sell any copies there I think it was just the other year where okay we're going to put out a rocket night adventures on everything except Xbox and people were complaining the you know the five people we like to say were complaining oh there's no Xbox version and then limited run or Konami had to come out and be like yeah that's because you never buy anything on there

[01:04:05] yeah limited run the guy from limited run himself Josh whatever was like guys they don't sell we cannot do it they simply do not sell Sony and Nintendo buy people buy things Xbox doesn't I mean he even gave numbers he even said I forget what it was he's like we have to sell at least 30k of these we will not sell that on Xbox sorry that was it it's just like you guys aren't even buying so you're not even going to buy real ass Final Fantasy what makes them think they're going to buy

[01:04:35] Rocket Night they're not so that's just the reality of the situation I on well on Switch I think it'll do just fine also

[01:05:05] but though it's a really old game that's you know that's kind of maybe might be a side discussion to this is like you guys have surely seen those things where it's like oh all the third party stuff on Switch too isn't selling very well and shit yeah and it's like yeah because it's cyberpunk and it's stuff that's well but everything else hadn't right and it's just like also give it

[01:05:35] time the system is new it's not like everything is going to sell at once here everyone is here to buy the Mario Kart world bundle and quite frankly I think a lot of people out there are like us they're just their Switch has been there since 2017 we need an upgrade this isn't necessarily just about new games right now it's about we need a new Switch which is what we have so but yeah I

[01:06:19] 3 on Wii U for 50 bucks it's like no one's gonna buy this shit even if the Wii was a success man they almost had my ass for Mass Effect 3 on Wii U because I again relaying that other story where I was cat sitting and like man I'm

[01:06:50] but not on Wii U where no one would have played this shit before well no I'm not engaging in this shit that enough or forget it fuck this shit yeah and that's when you were like Nintendo man right you didn't have choice if it wasn't on Nintendo you were not going to basically be able to play it and even you were like fuck Enix isn't going to

[01:07:20] put it at a discount because it's an old game we know they're not going to do that they don't do anything they invented square tax for every mobile game right so they're not going to do that but bravely defaults a robust $40 which would be a good price if it was on a game card and not digitally but anyway $40 that's actually kind of intriguing I played a little bit of the second one I was I can't really get into it maybe I don't know $40

[01:07:50] on Switch 2 maybe I'm a bravely default truther but that's not what this topic is alright guys

[01:08:19] it's been a while since we did unpopular gaming opinions around here we don't obviously well we never say anything unpopular every opinion I have is stellar with the mainstream but occasionally we say things that are unpopular we're going to say them right now so me and Kevin have one we'll see if Steve wants to conjure up one as we talk here and embarrass himself as well but I feel I'm I'm kind of sheepish about mine I'm sure I

[01:08:56] I feel very strongly about this one I don't know if it's that salacious but I I really feel strongly about this and I think you guys might think it's the stupidest fucking thing ever so I was thinking about my favorite Zelda like key art not not art style in game but like promotional art that you'd see Nintendo power or magazines or instruction manuals or whatever okay and you know what I think the best

[01:09:26] like promo art for Zelda game is is for the Oracle games can you get you guys remember what that art looked like yeah of course I do one with like Link walking towards the you know the picture and there's like the cliff and the castle in the background that's great I

[01:10:17] since I played the Oracle I haven't played them since I came out so it's hard for me to remember but I do remember the art you're talking about though for sure I don't know if I don't know man I love that Zelda 2 shit you

[01:10:47] I feel like if you're at Zelda con and you're running this panel I feel like you're just sitting there by yourself drinking the water waiting for no one to come visit you I don't think this is people coming in to debate you bro so it's unpopular just because nobody cares no I think well here's the thing I don't think people think about it that way I

[01:11:17] wouldn't I love that Zelda 2 shit right like you like you just described that's always going to be the best to me yeah I don't know yeah I

[01:11:47] earlier this month it kind of reaffirmed my position on this I think New Super Mario Brothers U is better than Mario Wonder I do I really do I think the level design is more consistent okay I should say obviously I'm talking on a pure gameplay level here like if I'm talking about art style and like music and stuff obviously I'm picking

[01:12:17] Mario Wonder of course but like as a platformer as something to play beginning to end I think I had more fun with New U Deluxe of course on Switch not that it really matters I mean I'd pick either but Steve is looking at me like I don't even belong he wants to kick me off my own show I can't do that but I don't know we're I was saying this the other week about Mario Kart and courses it's mostly

[01:12:47] vibes these days right as long as the game plays there I think we're mostly going off of vibes as far as what that much better but it's better to me I think this is just more surprising coming from you because you're the guy that's

[01:13:17] like yeah you can play a video game for the spectacle even if the gameplay isn't there you know and I'm not saying the gameplay isn't there with Wonder obviously but that's the spectacle game right that's what it's there for you know and I don't even know that I necessarily disagree with you I think you was like very underrated because people were so fatigued by it just by new Super Mario Brothers at the time but it's a

[01:13:47] very good game and yeah you're right the level design is great yeah I'm more surprised that you have this opinion I

[01:14:32] I two is one of the worst Nintendo games ever made there's so much worse though what's worse than New Super Mario Brothers 2 Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival it's down there it's down there that's in the bottom 10 Mario Tennis Wii U I don't even remember the name that's not good it is that's not very good although

[01:15:02] I would rather play that Tennis Wii U game barely I mean we're splitting hairs here obviously but like I think I would rather play that than New Super Mario Brothers 2 personally was it do you think New Super Mario Brothers 2 was that bad or was it just that the whole coin thing run up this counter to see how many coins you can get I don't know that the platforming was necessarily specifically terrible just the main hook of the

[01:15:32] game was pretty stupid and pointless was the problem but that's the whole thing right when you make your whole game about collecting coins you don't have any room for level around that some of them are okay but then when the whole point is to get your coin meter to a million or whatever it's like come

[01:16:02] on that just makes for a horrendous experience for me I thought the game sucked ass and that's if I'm being real that's the reason why I like new you more than wonder it's not like the wonder stuff makes it less about that stuff and more about the spectacle it's like you said Kevin which is perfectly fine I really like Mario wonder it's just that I don't know maybe I'm just kind of a Mario purist maybe I just

[01:16:31] really like that true hop and bop maker you guys have played my Mario maker courses I like really straightforward hop and bop kind of bullshit like the best it can be I think that's a formula that can never really go wrong you grazed what we could consider the wonder well a few times I have I absolutely have in your course making I have you're 100% correct however

[01:17:02] I would never if I were making a real like Mario game I would never make that the whole game I would never have every course be like that that's what Mario wonder is and again that's fine that's that's great I really enjoyed it but as for like being my favorite I will take the purity the purism of new you over it personally just by again just by a little bit just by like half a grade that's it yeah and I mean to be fair to knew you did

[01:17:31] maybe knew you dipped into the wonder well a little bit as it again I that's great I love Mario wonder but for me I don't know man you knew you hits a spot and I think what you said is correct Kevin

[01:18:01] I feel like people were fatigued and didn't give it its fair due I still think it's the most embarrassing Nintendo launch game of it's great it's a great fucking Mario game man it really is it's definitely the best new Super Mario Brothers game

[01:18:31] I know some people say that's not saying much but you know whatever man I don't know yeah that's that's just how I feel I think that's okay I don't think the pitchforks are coming out too much for that okay we'll see we'll see when this episode is posted and people we'll see what happens death threats tomorrow yeah we'll see I know some of them are going to be

[01:19:15] now he's been saying oh I got this game I want to play so yeah add us so we don't know we don't know anything about this I have no idea if it's like a question game if it's a whatever it is so Kevin please tell us what this game is okay I'm so excited it's a stroke of genius and let me tell you why okay fine time has a long prestigious rich history of ripping off existing game shows and trying to pretend like

[01:19:45] we're not ripping off existing game shows okay yes we do we need music fine time newlywed game

[01:20:19] non copyright non copyrighted I know I the only thing I was a little bit worried about not giving you guys the heads up about this in advance I don't know if anybody has had a chance to clean up the sound proof booth I don't know if there's any snacks ready or half a thing always in the in the

[01:20:48] mini fridge there we got some townhouse I think we'll be fine okay well the good news is Andre that tonight you are the one stepping into the sound proof booth I'm going to ask Steve to complete five sentences and then when he's done we're going to have you step out of the sound booth I'm going to give you the prompts that I give Steve and we're going to let you guess what Steve said and see how many you can get that sounds great okay should I go into the booth now

[01:21:18] while you guys please go into

[01:21:53] have you have you and Andre ever had like side discussions about bayonetta fetishes or anything like that no only jokey ones okay we'll just say earth to give them half a chance okay number two everybody always does underrated we're going playstation two

[01:22:23] playstation two oh that's juicy i don't think he's gonna guess that i think that might offend him i think that might that might cause you guys to have a lover's quarrel okay prompt number three sometimes Andre picks my ass his most offensive opinion is blank castlevania the adventure is a good game okay okay prompt number

[01:22:52] four if i could manifest a sequel to any game it would be blank this is a deep in thought one sequel that i won is hard the ace attorney oh okay prompt number five i am incredibly attracted to andre's creativity the best title

[01:23:22] he has named any episode of fine time is blank oh oh it would be egotistical to pick any of the ones i named indirectly so magnum grandfather is a classic that's exactly what i would have went with as well that's an excellent choice

[01:23:44] all right i'm back that was fun there were some leftover gouda that was good too yeah did you did you fart in the soundproof booth i would never do that i would never never never all right are you are you feeling connected with steve today i am i feel very connected with steve and body and mind and body and soul

[01:24:14] i think you should look into his eyes when you answer these and maybe and maybe you can uh pick up where he's coming from uh okay steve's steve's first prompt was as much as i love andre if i could romance any video game character it would be blank see i kind of i to be honest i thought steve was gonna go for bayonetta maybe i i guess i'm i'm sorry i'm now i'm discounting bayonetta terrible host dude yeah this is this is not good hosting by you

[01:24:46] i man this is really you know what you know fucking what i'm gonna say zelda that's what i'm gonna that's what i'm gonna say do you want do you want to tell him uh he tried giving you a chance and said earth but i didn't get that either well okay all right we still got four to go oh we'll be happy if i get

[01:25:16] like one of these well let's i think i think you can get a couple okay um the most underrated video game sorry the most overrated video game console or handheld is blank steve come on connect with me here i don't i don't i actually don't even know i don't know either that's why i just said a thing oh man see that's the thing i that's what i'm feeling um

[01:25:49] what would he say oh how about i don't know why i feel this way how about ps3 uh if you if you just subtracted that by one you would have had it you said ps2 you son of a bitch why would you say something like that you are you are just i'm giving you a you are wrong i i'm not wrong you are the

[01:26:19] one who was wrong wow we just had it on our top 10 consoles of all time do you remember that episode jesus christ as a result something can be good it's still overrated oh i i mean yes but like man okay fine anyway all right um sometimes andre picks my ass his most offensive opinion is

[01:26:49] blank oh man fuck well i've said a lot of things that have offended him over the over the years i know i have but what what some have been pretty offensive yeah i mean i've offended both of you i mean of course i have i probably offended you last segment oh no is that it no that can't be it um

[01:27:20] i'm just gonna say hd2d games shouldn't be played on switch how about that no i'm picking on you for liking castlevania the adventure that's up there that's up there that is up there that's that's good man okay i'm gonna i'm gonna get one of these this is fun regardless we can get there this is fun uh okay i asked steve if i could manifest a sequel to any game it would be blank

[01:27:51] oh boy the number of torches this man has on his wall by the way we're newly like how long have you been married by the way we're newly weds right is it like less than two years or a year or something or no i mean i think since early 2019 yeah but like i don't know the newlywed game doesn't imply that like we're freshly oh on the actual newlywed game are they all like new newlyweds or are they is it just couples

[01:28:20] yes yes a thing i don't know how how much they stick to the newlywed portion of it i remember a variant where they're like they have like a newlywed couple and then like one that's been married for five years and then one that's been married much longer but yeah anyway that too anyway what's a sequel i've been waiting for bruh everything chrono trigger two i went with a more

[01:28:50] realistic ace attorney but oh okay damn i was i was just thinking impossible if there's any you're going to get i feel like it's the last one i think i think this one steve gave a solid answer i think we're all on the same page okay the prompt steve had was i am incredibly attracted to andre's creativity the best title he has named any episode of fine time is blank

[01:29:19] oh and i will say 100 the answer he gave was the exact same answer i would have given i want to say i thought you were circumcised i just don't think that's it i mean it might be i might go with that that's so stupid though i i am fond see this is me i am fond of see that yin yang symbol right there that is that was fun do you guys remember why i said that i do okay

[01:29:49] kevin i don't i was we were when mortal one combat was first unveiled and they were showing like the active like versus screen of like sub-zero and scorpion they were like moving you remember and i was making up dialogue for them i was like oh scorpion i'm gonna suck your dick this time oh so he was like i'm gonna suck yours and yeah i don't know that i made them into a yin yang symbol 69 yeah um i a show of high class yes i'm gonna no it's not the b orchid

[01:30:19] ones there's two b orchid ones i think i am gonna go with ethically sourced chocobo oh that was a good one no that wasn't it it's magnum grandfather magnum grandfather oh man magnum grandfather was an all-timer magnum grandfather is you know honestly though when it comes to naming stuff after a jv title i do like sorry but i don't have any money i don't know

[01:30:48] i think that was our first one that was our first ever one so um i just the the creativity of magnum grandfather like what a like magnum grandfather just lives rent free in my head do you have a picture have you pictured the magnum grandfather do you know what i totally have a mental image of the magnum grandfather he has gray hair but he is handsome as fuck i think he's wearing a robe for sure i never looked up

[01:31:17] the cover it'll never live up to whatever's in my head oh no the magnum grandfather he's wearing a robe he has a pipe like old school like you know oh like hugh hefner style yeah yeah smells like like brute aftershave i always imagine magnum grandfather in like an extremely expensive high-end suit okay yeah see i'm imagining him at home just like he is the magnum grandfather he but he's not he's a grandfather but he's like a new grandfather he's like in his late

[01:31:47] 50s he's not like really old you know no i think he's older too i think he's an established grandfather but he like yeah he's he definitely is a solid grandfather grandfather but he can still fuck yeah uh steve you know what victor looks like from tekken 8 the new character he's like french yeah that that he's magnum grandfather yeah sounds about right okay sorry i didn't get any but hey you know hey well you know what i definitely want to do that again we should do this again

[01:32:16] where steve goes in the soundproof booth and then okay yeah for sure let's play that again that was fun legally distinct uh fine time newlyweds uh game all right we're gonna get the hell out of here thanks for joining us for this bullshit as you do every week thanks a lot check the description of this podcast to find our links on social media and we'll see you next time bye we'll get you next time this has been