Are Sim games FUN?? Planes, Trains and Tractors!

Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Elder Trolls Gaming Podcast. If you're new, we are three brothers to get together. We talked about gaming and we talked about tech, TV movies, other things that are geeky and nerdy. Two, I am taking easy John with me. We have Nasty Dight and dand off the wise. That's correct? That is correct, would dud? And today we'll be talking about sim games and are they fun? Specifically three sim games that we got off of game Pass, so these games are available on game Bass and aren't they actually fun? And we chose Microsoft Flight Simulator of course, uh Farming Simulator twenty twenty two because we know you've all we wanted to try it, You've hovered over it but never installed it. It's okay, we know, and Train sim World three because why not. We're adults and you know we can. We can play with trains if we want. But first, how's it going, guys? It seems like it's been a long time. I am so tired, very tired. I've got a day. I've got a day ahead of me too, Like it's been like this NonStop for five days. Yeah, we were right last night pretty late too. What one thirty? I didn't get home till quarter no two. Oh really okay, so we left it like one ish. Yeah, wow, okay, wow, I slept, Okay, we left. I'm nice and rested. That's fucking great because I got home and I came down here to get stuff set up because we're recording earlier than usual. So Alma is like trying to get to sleep right now, so it's better I come down here. Usually we recorded the afternoon where she's asleep and a dump truck couldn't wake her up. But while she's trying to get while she's trying to sleep, I was gonna come down here. You couldn't hear it. You couldn't hear a dump truck going through a night trunk. So down here I'm in. I'm actually in my photo studio. See that my lights, see this, well, I can see it. See this here. I mounted that myself. See that. Wow. And this arm comes in bolt into a ceiling, yeah, actually into the duct work. I think it might have some Yeah, I might have some leakage, some air leakage in there. At least it's not into like a water pipe or something. Ship with these balls. Oh my god ship. Yeah, it's somewhere the ship pipe somewhere. In other news, my PSVR two headset broke. Oh great, yep, so I've sent that back for warranty repair. I would put it on. I talked about this on a nave and Phil gave me together. But I'd put it on and I would see the PlayStation logo and then it would get into the PlayStation screen and then it would disconnect. And then I would just keep trying that over and over again. Tried new cables, tried new power plugs, wouldn't work. Four months, four months, it lasted. That's not very long. No, no, And then I just got an email about doing some I guess promotion work or something for PS or for VR lenses. So we'll be we'll have for that, maybe tuned for that. We'll have some discount codes for people who have VR systems and listen to us. I would say, uh, the percentage is probably low actually maybe a couple maybe a couple maybe, um, but that's all on in my world today today. Oh yeah, yeah, gool oh, okay, I was just gonna Dan if he's ever been to a diaper party I have, Okay, but it wasn't. Yeah, but it wasn't like a late night huge bash thing. It's more of a get together. You have a couple of drinks, you just bring some diapers, and then you leave after a few hours. It's not like a huge thing. No. Um, but I hosted one for my my buddy who you hosted that kid? I hosted one. Yeah. It was just a few of the guys like that were probably going to be in the because he was supposed to get married during COVID or before COVID. He was gonna get married, but then COVID hit, so we didn't get a chance to do the whole thing. So he invited or we invited, like most of the groomsmen or whatever and all our buddies and we just head of did you know fun fact we ordered Pizza Hut and they deliver to the gas station long sooth. I was like, oh, well, let's do that. So I ordered a bunch of stuff crush pizzas and ordered them to the gas station. I drove three minutes to pick them up from buddy. And you can get Pizza Hut this far. They just don't go past the gas station. Wow, So you don't use the diapers that night, is what you're saying. Yes, I would have the morning. I know people know what that is if that's just the thing we have here. But it's like a it's like a baby shower, but the man the manly equivalent, you know, yea for men where you just bring diapers. Yeah, and you get like different sizes because the baby will grow into certain ones and like you wear that. You could all get, you can all get. What are you drinking there, Nathaniel, You gotta you gotta, you gotta Winnie the Pooh mug. I've got last vegas I have. I had something on this mug, but through many cycles of the dishwasher, it has settled it. It didn't say sure. It's not one of those ones where when you fill it up with coffee it appears no, because it's filled his coffee. I think Daniel is having a crisis. Mine's just the biggest mug that I can find in the in the cupboard. Yeah, same right, put it to my veins. Now it's done. It's it's over. No more coffee, Okay. I helped my buddy move yesterday. Yeah, thanks for going to help your buddy move when we could have been recording podcasts yesterday. Oh thanks for going to a diaper party when we could have been recording a podcast yesterday. Well tell me what kind of man over thirty years old helps his friends move? Yeah, that's a rule. If you're over thirty, you don't have to fucking help your friends smooth. Okay, it's just a rule, that's it. I think it's the Nate. Nate loves to see his his friends, so I obliged because I don't see him that often either, so why not. It's like it was a hangout day. As much as we had a bunch of pizzas, we had a bunch of beers. It's fun. Are those roosters up to back there? Anything? Oh? Shut up, you're worthless? Pizza? Shit? What's wrong with Wolfie? What's wrong with Wolfee? Boilers? Terminator two? If you haven't watched that yet, go watch that. No. I think Pam left to meet someone for a brunch or something. Okay, I'm here with that makes sense. Why they're going wiley coyotes? And Arthur's has an ear infection, so he's being a little bitch. Ye anyway, let's uh, but why don't we throw it over to game time. All right, let's talk about what we've been playing recently. Now, I really haven't been playing much much much much else uh over the last few weeks. Really than than the oblo the Yabbolobolo four. It's long grind. Trying to get two hundred while not getting any gear upgrades got slow, certainly even after they fixed the XP. I don't know, and like it's noticeable what they did. It is because I get like I can do like two Nightmare dungeons and get like a quarter level, you know what I mean? Yeah, so you have to do like eight dungeons roughly maybe nine to get at full level. Let's level at that level. Yeah, so it's probably go a little more now. Six latency issues at all, not really not really still garbage, pretty laggy. We actually hopped on Gaming together with Phil and Knave last week and we talked about Diablo in depth, which is always a blast. Thanks for having us on Fellas. But I forgot a couple of things so far this game, although it's flaws, it is climbing the ranks of my most favorite game this year. I don't know the last time I put this many hours into something and kept wanting to play it even though they're punishing me, you know. And I'm looking forward to the season coming out later this month, which I want to tell you guys about when we get into I guess would it be in Gaming news or game time. We'll talk about in gaming news, okay. But I also we also found a way that we could track our hours where we didn't know before, right, yes, yep, yeah, so using the what the hell is it called the Armory. There's this website called Dablow Fort dab before Armory, and it tells you your actual hours played for each character. HM had more than I thought then, what I'd love to admit we both did well well right now and seventy something on my rogue, yeah, and I have one hundred and sixty no, no, together like all my characters, I have about one hundred and four thousand hours sixty five no, yeah, sixty five. I had one hundred and seventy five on my Rogue alone, plus like just on your rogue, no, I don't think, plus thirteen on my Necromancer and four hours on my Mage. So what's that seventeen uh, one hundred trillion, billion trillion f b Joe geez, Yeah, something like that anyway. But yeah, it's it's the grind, that's for sure. It has a sidebar as a sidebar. When I opened, I don't, I didn't. I don't think I got a chance to send you guys what I actually saw. Whenever you sent that clip of Biden doing the whole one million trillion thing. It was just him auto tuned AI singing um miss you by Blink one eighty two, and it was awesome, and it was just himming like I think he was singing the mark part at the beginning. Yeah, and he's got like the microphone and he's walking back and forth on stage and that's why I was like, Wow, that's the most coherent he sounded in ever. And I was like fuck yeah, man, anyway, it was funny. I haven't I should link it continue. So is it shaping up to be my game of the year so far? Yes, it has already surpassed all such a thing even possible. It's because it's what I like as a gamer, right, That's what I've definitely played more than Zelda. Yeah, it gives me more than Zelda did. It's given me that dopamine casino fix, right, I've wanted for years sorry, Zelda, but Starfield is coming, which I think will be literally pun intended, a game changer. Don't get me wrong, becau Zelda is probably the better game than Diablo and will most likely be second place to Starfield at the Game Awards. But diablofore right now is my bread and but as you've already given the Starfield the fucking game of the year, Like, what are you doing? It's not even out. Yeah, well it's funny. I was actually speaking of Starfield. I was listening to Friday Night game past Will and Nick, and Will said something he corroborated something that I felt as well, and I think I had said this on one of our shows. I don't know if it was the Post, if it was the show with Filling Knave, because that was the showcase show we did after or Think or something anyway, but I was like watching this Starfield gameplay and I remember being like, this looks it looks great, but it has that kind of dated feel of the creation engine. And Will even said the same thing. He was like, I think it looks he said on the latest their latest episodes, I think it looks bad. It looks bad, And I was like, he just meant like that maybe the mechanics of it or whatever, and I think that's what he was saying, and I totally understood the same thing. But I feel like it doesn't matter. I was saying this with Nick. As long as like the stories there and then the narrative and all that, you know, and the gameplay is fun, I'll overlook the whole dated created and create shan engine thing. But anyway, so I didn't That was the first time I've heard somebody say the same thing that I was thinking about the game. I don't know if you guys feel the same way, but anyway, it's like they like they smoothened all the m hmmm. It's like it's an old engine and they were building the game for fucking ten years or whatever. It's like, what are you gonna do? Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's not yet scrap put it on a new engine, I don't think so. No, okay, you'll just use a hundred mods to exactly the mods. The mods are gonna blow this game Star Wars mods. All your ships are now Star Wars ships. So I'll bring this up in gaming news. But yeah, Daniel, what are you playing? Um? I have really only been playing story of Seasons A Wonderful Life. I bought it. I bought it physically. I ordered it on Amazon the day it came out, and I got it a few days later. And that's all I've been really playing, other than of course our STEM games for the last week. Um Man, I love it. I've been loving it because it's like it's kind of the same story as Mineral Town. It's like everything that the RID will add, but better, better graphics, there's more. It's a GameCube one. Yeah, it's good, and it's it's just so different because like there's just different. It's just the like I said, it's third person camera over the shoulder type thing. You've got little different elements that that still feel like a Harvest Moon quote unquote game, but now Story of Seasons. But like, instead of a mine, there's an archaeology site that you go dig out as opposed to like a mind. So it's the same kind of fulfilling the same role in terms of activities and things to like rewards to reap, but instead of a mind, you just go and you dig at the site and you get quote, things like little artifacts that are really important to like the archaeology professor or they're just garbage and you can sell them to the traveling merchant and uh yeah, it's it's kind of cool. There's a lot of there's no there's no character image when you speak to them. It's just you're just speaking to like the in game character, because like the graphics are nice enough that they look, you know, nice or whatever, So there's little character I know, but it was only kind of necessary because the shitty old sprites of the old games, right, Um, but does it zoom in on them or something when you Yeah, yeah, the camera kind of comes in on them. And there's more, there's more candidates to choose from for like marriage or whatever, because now they're obviously including the female gender male gender player because in the OG game, I think it was just male player, so you could I think I actually don't remember anyway. Um, yeah, it's awesome. I'm loving it and i've the seasons are really short though, so you kind of gotta make your you gotta make your moves. It's ten days as opposed to thirty days, and I don't really know why that is. I find the days lasted long. Yeah, yeah, I was like I woke up next month, next month in summer. I was like, what, And it's still throwing me off. It is, but it's still throwing me off because like, I'd planted some turnips and man, I got so mad the other night because I had left them. They grew fully grew and were ready for harvesting, but they didn't look like it because they're a root plant, so it just had the leaves uptops. I was like, oh, they're not ready yet. I'll keep watering them. So then I wake up the next day and they're all dead. I was like what. And then I chad to check the info for the turnips and this was like half a field that was that's maybe like a grand and a bunch of time spent freaking watering them for I don't know how many days, but anyway, so I checked the bag. It's like summer through fall or summer through autumn. I was like, okay, so what's the problem. And apparently it's because they were grown and I just didn't know it yet. And the little square indicator when you go to water your crops changes color when they're ready to harvest. It's yellow as opposed to blue yellow or green. I couldn't tell on the screen. It was late. But yeah, so now you know, double check your root crops because they don't always look ready when they are and you can lose them. And I had saved like three seconds before midnight of the next day. When they rotted and I'd loaded, I was like, I loaded and then I run outside and it's like screen goes black next day and then the rota was like lost all of those all that money, but I had to replant. But at least I still have the rest of autumn to keep regrowing or keep buying them. And they're the cheapest crop, so it works out. I've got all know your turnips, folks. I did tomato right out the right out of the gate, planted those tomatoes. Tomatoes are good, Yeah, they're just cheap. You can't get a free cow the thing as you can't what and you get a free cow. Yeah at the beginning, yea, they set you off pretty straight at the beginning. It's it's it's strange like that, but again it's different and I don't really cares. Whatever it starts you off. You get some milk. I think I think it's necessary because you need that milk to make like recipes to get your freaking stamina backup, because it takes so much out of you to water, because you gotta water plants twice a day in this game. Okay, you can't just do it once and that's it. The soil dries out. Oh I've been doing it once and I've been fine, you can It'll just take longer. But the soil dries out at about six pm or so, and you see the soil change in color, and you gotta eat. You have the option to red water, which I do because I want my crops growing quick. And so I'm mixed, exhausted, and I go to the cafe. I'm like spending all this gold on on food. So instead of doing that, I just keep all my buy products from animals to make ingredients to eat during the day, to make sorry meals to eat during the day, so I don't have to keep going and spending money at the cafe on energy. But it's good. Fine. You have to find the recipe though, right whatever, Like here's a little tip. Go visit these sprites in the forest. Yeah, I ate the mushroom. What they have to say every day, a little red one, So I go. I first went up there, ate the mushrooms, like do you want to eat this? Why not? Looks poisonous? See what happens? But like did you die? I have fish because I go fish, and then I have milk, like I can't make anything with fish and milk and tomatoes, Like what can you make with fish, milk and tomatoes? Showder a fish chowders. I don't know. I don't have any recipes that have fish, I don't think, But but now I'm up to like I have egg soup, milky soup, herb soup, and you can make milk, milky soup, and egg soup with with your brie products any time of the year. You can only make herbal soup in the spring, so um yeah, and it's it's cool because like I also didn't realize this, But if you do want to make friends with people, like if you're looking to to get married or whatever, you can actually give your bachelorette or whatever or bachelor gifts twice a day now, which I don't think I knew, And you got to keep talking to them, get all their dialogue options exhausted, and then that increases their friendship meter, and then of course your your affection meter will increase with all their little cut scenes whatever. There's more to it that I'm remembering, and I'm really liking it. Who you banging? I chose? I chose Molly because actually, in the past two saves that I've played, I chose Cecilia and Nami, the redhead girl who's kind of like a punk. She's super cringed and like she got an attitude problem. Yeah. I told that bitch to fuck off. Yeah. Yeah, she came out of here. You don't want my presence, fuck out. She came to my farm and I don't want my milky soup, bitch. She was like, oh, don't mind me, I'm just watching the cows or the farmer ever. And the two options were stay as long as you like, and you're kind of hard to ignore, and I was like, what does that mean? So I clicked that the you're kind of hard to ignore and I don't. It almost might have been the bad option because it's like, well, you're here on my farm, like what you doing here? And then she was like, oh, okay, I'll just leave now and laughed. I was like, I was in the forest with Cecilia. I think it was Cecilia, and she's like this place is so nice and quiet and blah blah blah. It's like staying there and agree or make noise. I was like make noise, and I'm like just stomping around. And then she got laying the hand spoons on what is to say? She's like, I couldn't believe you did that, and then she just left me in the forest blown. You got damn wheels. Man. Now I just give gifts to the rich girl. So I'm gonna take her money. Nice. She lives in the mansion, right, so I'm just gonna get her all up in the hearts and then break her heart and take her money. That's how that's that's how Nasty Nate do. Okay, and you break and you take and you turn it into It's a good game. I love I love it so far, and I feel like everything that I that is different from like Mineral Town that I'm not crazy about is a challenge and it's a good challenge that I like. So I'm very much enjoying it right now. All right, and that's about it. All right, Well, I think that's it for a game time. Let's head on into the gaming news. We'll talk, we'll talk. I got something to say. I got something that's funny, and Nathaniel will tell us about the Diablo season one. Okay, gaming news, let's uh, you want to talk about Diablo first? Or I got something here? I got something quick, it's funny. It's we talked about when we were on gaming together. Phil mentioned the Reddit thing that the Reddit subreddits are protesting about them the recent changes they made to the accessibility of the back end API like their third party apps. So you now, if you if you're an open source developer, if you have an app that access is Reddit and displays it, you now have to pay money where it was free before. Um so now using the Reddit app is like the only real way to access Reddit, which people don't like because it's not good. Chinese are just making their money off that now. Yeah. So anyway, in protest to this change, the Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven subreddit has turned NSFW nice. It is now flooded with user posts pictures of their naked characters. Wow. Yeah, So I decided to visit the subreddit for scientific purposes, research for me and purely in an investigative nature, and sure enough, strick academic strictly academics. Tom. They were He's everywhere everywhere. There were titties and uh yeah some some nice some nice characters on there. Chrome. I got some chrome on there, Chrome mass titties. But Reddit has demanded they remove the NSFW tag or else quote unquote or else. I'm not really sure what that means or how they can force them to remove the tag since it is an eighteen plus game that does have nudity in it, so it you know, it directly relates to the game, so I don't think they can. Actually, that is cool. That is like the most cyberpunk thing a cyberpunk Reddit could do. It's like Johnny Silverhan would do that, you know, Oh yeah, yeah, he would blow it up. No, he would go to Reddit headquarters and blow it up with a nuclear bombs. Fucking rocker Boy. Man, that's rocker Boy, Wake up Samurai. Yeah, that's what I had. That's pretty funny. Wow, that's funny. We'll see how long that lasts. I guess. I've got a lot of those not safer work photos of my character. It was funny because they're like, you know, there's some pictures of pictures of like Judy. It's like here's some pictures of Judy, but like the guy had like a mod modded Judy ass, so it was bigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and people were like, people are like, Judy ain't got that much cake, Judy, Judy got booty. Yeah, it's like, no, that's a mod Judy, Judy, Judy, Judy's booty, Doug Judy, Pontiac Man Rose a Rose Rose his songs. Yeah, all right, let's talk about all right. So I watched the di Abblo four season one stream, Well did the ablow stream, but let's get real, everyone was just watching it for the season one details. Yeah, the pre patches coming out July eighteenth, twenty twenty three, and the season one will start July twentieth Thursday. Yeah, called Season of the Malignant. Looks like it resets to World War to World War two, to World Tier two as they were playing a character in T two and like Level eight as they were running around. A corruption has spread in the hearts of Beasts, leaving them bloodthirsty and a very dangerous threat. Sanctuary. Looks like there's like a story to the season, which is nice. So you'll be playing this story throughout the season and then finishing It's you're not going to be playing the original story because to get the seasonal content, you have to beat the original campaign. You have to have beaten the original campaign to get the seasonal like the seasonal quest line. I guess you start at level one and you progress into the season storyline. New ways to customizes, new ways to interact with your player. Use an item to so you get like this item to capture these heart, these malignant hearts from the beasts, and you turn these hearts into like gems, which you sock it into new gear with new like malignant sockets it's called and they're colored. They're different colors for different kind of stats I believe, for like what heart you've stolen or what heart you've taken. Then they'll be like because of these new hearts, they're gonna give new skills and new stuff. So there's gonna be different ways to build your character now based on these hearts that you take and slot into gear. So I think that's going to be really cool. So my build is or if I were to do a let's say a necromancer again, my build would change based on what hearts I can get. Um, they're also letting us kind of hone in on how to it these Malignant Hearts, Like, yes, they can drop from around the world at a lower drop rate, but there's gonna be these things called Malignant Tunnels. They're kind of like dungeons or small little quest things that you can go in and grind for specific hearts that you're looking for. So that'll be really cool as well. New legendary items, new legendary powers, new unique items, new world bosses, which will show up in both realms, in your new season realm and your regular realm. These Malignant Hearts, though, are only in the season realm. Okay, Season one will bring out a seasoned journey feature. So the battle Pass looks like new cosmetics because they showed a picture of what's coming out. These cosmetics I believe will be able to be put on any class of character. So they're like, this is what I didn't understand and I'm not a fan of is They say that it's what was the word they used? They said a word, So they said a word that I don't understand. They said a word. Yeah, said a word, folks, I know all the words. So season one will bring out season journey features like the Battle Pass. It looks like news cosmetics, new current new currency towards the battle Pass, so it's like it's called favor, but it's like an XP kind of currency, so it's just like an XP. They're not calling it XP, they're calling it favor. So you do quests, you get favor. That favor translates into battle Pass XP progression cosmetics in the battle Pass, so it's the same helm for any kind of class. So if you get if you unlock the cosmetics in the battle Pass and it looks like a certain way, it's going to look that certain way on all classes, which I don't think that's very nice because then everyone's just going to look the same. Right, That's what I got out of it. I don't know if I'm one hundred percent correct about that. But they're like, oh yeah, it's like oh agnostic. It's it's class agnostic. That's what they said. Yeah, that sounds weird. I don't want to look the same as Yeah, yeah, well you may you may you may be I don't know that that you may be onto something where you're misunderstanding how they're putting in it. Could it could mean that actually, now I don't know, I don't know, I have no idea what that I'm hoping. I'm hoping I'm mistaken, and if I go in with a necromancer, they're changed a little bit for that class on that battle pass, right. Yeah, But what also is if you start multiple season characters, you're progressing the same battle pass, right, So okay, yeah, because it's so why right battle pass exactly? So I'm I'm pretty sure i'm right where the cosmetic will look the same on all classes where I'll try to find out more about that, but that's what I think they're doing. At least there's new content coming out. We were just talking about this. I'm sure they'll put something out like new quests and all this jazz. Yeah, there's gonna be things called smoldering ashes, which can be applied to seasonal blessings. Gives new bonuses like Lilith's statues, so you unlock those and they give you bonuses to your characters stats and all that kind of stuff to make you more powerful. Power is not locked behind paywall, so free people can get all these blessings, these seasonal blessings and progress. The only thing that the free people won't get are the paid cosmetics. Pretty much and I think potions. I think I saw potions in the locked battle pass icons kinds of potions. Yeah. Maybe No, I think it's like just potions that you could pick up. It's just you get them in the battle place. It looked like a vial of something, so I'm assuming it's a potion. Maybe it's like an XP boost potion or something. Oh maybe maybe like an ABSTRACTSP boost. Yeah, but you're renowned. Some of your renowned will come over. So they said your map progression will carry over, your little statues will carry over, and it wasn't clear to me, but your renowned progression will carry over. So if you didn't finish your renown, you can continue that renown grind on you character. Yeah, that's what I heard. Some of it will will come over, like you won't have to uncover the map. Yeah, that's what I'm saying it You won't have to. You will have to get waypoints, but not all of them. There will be like unlocked waypoints, which is the same as what it is now, I think, Yeah, but I think there will be more unlow that you just have to go and get other ones. I think the Lilla statues will be already on your map. Also, well, no, you'll be if you got all your Lilla statues, then you're good. They'll carry like they'll carry over your progression on the Lillith statues. Yeah. Yeah, so they said, they said, whenever you start your level one character and you've gotten all this stuff done before you get the season, so campaign Lillis statues, your map, your character is going to be pretty powerful. At the beginning of season one. At level one, you're gonna have like five extra You're gonna have the equivalent to five skill points and nine potions. Do you have ten skill points? Ten? Is it ten? I heard because I started a new I started a new character and I had ten skill points to start, and I was super strong because I had like sixty or fifty eight stats, so the extra stats. So they said, leveling is going to be pretty quick for the season grind because how powerful your character is going to be, which is very nice. I like that. I like that and the fact that it's a it's a new storyline, you're not doing the same story which is also really cool. So I think I'm looking forward to this season. I think it's gonna be pretty sweet. They said, how to get ready for season one, They say, get the campaign done when the season starts, logging with the character that you have the most progression on, so it transfers all that stuff to all your alts. So it's going to transfer it because right now, my Necromancer progression, like the map progression isn't copied to my Druid right now, so if I log in with my Druid, I don't have the map uncovered. So that's going to be moved over. Once you log in with your main character, then you start your your alts, and then your seasonal alt, it'll move that map over to them. Yeah, it sounds pretty good. It sounds like they're actually listening to the community, which is awesome. He passingly said, inventory space and gem space. They're not gonna be changing anything for season one, but it is in the works. They say. It's pretty complicated to increase your baggage space and move the gems out and increased dash space. That is coming. It's just they're working on it right now. Okay, whatever you say, Blizzard. Yeah, and it's twelve weeks per season, twelve per season, and he's standard yet no new classes are planned at this time. All right, Okay, well that's good to know. I think we can throw it over to today's topic now, I think so today's topic, lady and gentlemen, we will be discussing the ree game pass available sim games that we chose to pit against each other in a Battle of the sims. You could say. We have a very popular game in Microsoft Flight Simulator. We have a Farm Simulator twenty twenty two, which I know, as I said earlier, I have hovered over before and being like what is this all about? So I'm wondering why am I drawn to it? Yeah, it's like why why? Anyway, then we also have Train sim World number three, because who doesn't love the idea of toy trains as a grown adult and controlling them being a conductor? Planes, trains and tractors, Planes, trains and tractors. We're going to talk a bit about each and then decide which is best in terms of fun. Now out, let's uh, let's start with Microsoft Flight Simulator. It's by Microsoft, of course, for PC and Xbox. First of all, the installation of this game is one of the worst experiences I've ever had installing a game on PC. It took multiple days to get this game installed. It's like it's like one hundred and sixty gigs and it downloads it like one hundred megabits per second. It takes forever. I had left it overnight, Like whence the last time you left something overnight to download? What year is it? Yeah? I don't know. And it still didn't work because my computer shut down somehow for some reason. It's like, what the fuck is happening right now? I just went on Xbox. On Xbox. I didn't have any troubles it was it was a matter of it was definitely longer than just a couple hours, but it was done. I actually did test it the Xbox energy saving power off mode. I turned off my Xbox. I held the Xbox button turn off, and flights him still downloaded and finished. So you can do that if energy saving mode is on. Confirmed. So I just turned off my Xbox and started up the next day and it was downloaded. I couldn't get the game pass PC app to install anything because it's such a piece of shit. So I had to actually install this game on my series. S Oh really, you didn't played on PC? Damn? It was okay? Oh my god, Like I spent a week troubleshooting that fucking app it is. So I had that and I had I forget what I had to do. I had to like reformat my drive or something because it was a permissions thing. I had to move everything off of it, reform at it, and then add it to the game Pass app in the settings, and then it was fine. It's so dumb the Windows the news ever since Windows ten, the permissions on that and the way it installs apps and games is very fucking dumb. Yeah, and it uses some weird hidden folders like it's so do but you can't just have okay, where do you want your installed here? Because it's not like an like a regular exc anymore. It's not a folder that has an XC for like an app. Yeah, it's a store app, right, so it's just nested in this garbage that Microsoft piles on your sea drive. And the what I ended up having to do is I uninstalled all of my Windows Store apps. So I uninstalled Windows Store apps, rebuilt the Windows Store app with PowerShell commands so I could see as I've done that before, and it did see it. I can see it all going. And then I repaired did all that shit after installed Xbox app, and then I had to install the games on my sea drive. I couldn't install it on my um my secondary SSD. I had to go on the sea drive. What a piece of shit. That's the problem I had before. And it was something about permissions because like it didn't like the permissions on my on my my SSD of my spare drive on my game drive to reformat it completely and then move everything back A long story short. Play it on Xbox yeah, I mean I have no problems playing anything on the console anyway. Let's talk about the game. Let's playing the game. Yeah, let's get to the gameplay. I liked I liked how they to start you off that you can actually do training courses for beginners to show you very generally the controls of the plane, some terminology, you know, how things work. I like that. I definitely learned some stuff. I definitely learned some stuff. Like for instance, I remember when I was trying to keep the plane at altitude, but I kept it kept wanting to pull down and I have to have it kept pulling up on the yoke to kind of stay level. I'm like, that's really annoying. Is just something wrong with my joystick? Like I thought, maybe I was getting like some stick drift or something. But then in a later on training module it explained what that was, and you have to set the trim. You gotta set the trim, which is like a trim of the flap so you can compensate for like it pulling down. So you set the trim and it levels out and you're like, oh, I can let go of the other thing now perfect and what she did that? So I just hit I just hit my sticks in and then it goes to the menu like you're hovering menu and your plane just goes straight. I don't think so I tried that. Yeah, I just kept going. I was like, oh, see left ultimate cheese, mister cheesel cheese. That was cool. Again, the trim thing was a little weird for me at first, only because I think I think it was just the way I have to be explained something in certain ways, and I think the perspective of the explanation was a little weird for me, Like I wasn't it wasn't connecting. I think the function of trim wasn't connecting with how they and I was like, wait what and then you just realized that it's it's also I think if she just told me that it's just a way to fine tune, yeah, your nose, I think I would have been like, Okay, that makes sense. But then I realized I played. I played these modules over and over because I wanted to get a's on every one of them, so I fucking did. So. I heard her, and I was on comms for some of it, so I couldn't hear exactly what she was saying, and I would just keep reading. But then I played on my own and she did say something about you have to use broad movements with the trim first to really kind of get the pressure off the yoke and then and then you can start fine tuning it and then set it. And I was like, oh, I didn't hear her say that before. So because I was finding it a weird relationship between the yoke and the fine tune, I was like, well, wait a minute, but when I let go the yoke, the plane is still doing this when I'm trying to set the yoke. But that's because I didn't do the course movements with the trim first and then let go the yoke. So there's definitely some nuance in there. Man, It's not try you can change the camera angle to third like behind the plane, and it will tell you your trim degrees in the bottom right corner. So yeah, benefit I didn't. That's why I didn't like being in the cockpit because I didn't like like nothing was like labeled. I didn't see. I was like, I'm like, all right, if you want like the sim experience, I would rather sit in a cockpit because that's what you would see. Um. But they it is nice to just like do third person and look at the map around you. Um remember the option speaking of the map around you, just as I wanted to tell you guys, just like when you start the game, it's like, do you want to use satellite population for like the world around you from you know, the internet. You have to have really fast internet for this, or you could just use this shitty And I was like okay, But I tried it anyway and it works fine. So luckily I have had no problems. Everything looks really cool and like accurate. According to Geography, Son Nathaniel, you didn't like cockpit view. I loved it. I love that I liked it, but I was like, okay, how high am I? And I'm looking for the numbers. It's just it's just dials, and I don't oh yeah, I need numbers. You learn how to use your dials, man, how to and your your attitude, your attitude. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna rewind attitude on the Series S. This game was like lighting that thing on fire. Like the heat that was coming off the Series S was unlivable. This thing. I was like, holy shit, like I couldn't touch it, so I had to put a fan on it. Just over what um. The game is boring, but weirdly good. Many music is quite nice. I like the u UI is very nice. The UI is very nice. Intuitive. I can get through it, you know, I can get to playing okay, and I can get in there and start playing. Did you find the music sounded like you two? I found it sounded yeah, kind of like pinking, as long as I didn't have like an edge the edge the guitar player. The guitar player too had that kind of style. It was a bit blurry the graphics, but I think that's because the FSR was working as ass off on the Series S just to get those frame rates. It's not as probably not going to be as nice looking on the on the series S that it would on the PC or the Series X. But for what I saw, it looked quite nice. Um, we'll talk about visuals after. Oh okay, is that what we're doing? Okay? Um, but yeah, I couldn't play his game for more like thirty minutes. I just kept falling asleep. To be honest, really, what missions were you doing? Were you not like doing? I was working through all the trainers, I did all the like what did I doot? It's just like, why do I keep nose diving? Wake up back? I did the first training, I did the takeoff and landing, and I did the VFR course. Is that what you did? Yeah? I did all those yet okay with I think I had like a B average. I didn't redo any of the things. I think I was C average. I was like, that's enough. I did all the first training stuff until you're like first solo flight where you do the loop around. Yeah, and I was like, okay, I think, but I also redid a bunch of shit a bunch of times to get the a's. I was like, I feel like I've compensated in terms of the time and put it. I think I spent like four hours playing that game, which is way more than I thought I did. I would, but I only got a bee in my solo flight, and I just the problem with the training is hitting the objectives for as long as they want you to and as accurately as you need them to. Like you can fly the plane and land it and it's fine, but hitting the objectives so that the flight is controlled and and you know what I mean, that's where you get your a's and your bees and training and stuff. But I just couldn't get like, slow down to sixty five knots And I'm like, how am I going to slow down to sixty five knots? Drop the rpm to huneel like that. You gotta and you gotta float with your nose up of it. You can't do this otherwise you start speeding up. And then yeah, there's a dance. It's a dance between your news, Yeah for sure, because you got to have a relationship. Like if they want you to descend but keep a certain amount of knots. If you got to start descending, you start speeding up. So you got to pull out throttle so that you keep the knots they want you to. Or if you're ascending, but you have to keep certain knots and hit a certain altitude. You have to find the perfect angle that pitch that's going to allow you to hit both of those at once. That's the hardest part. While it's like you want me to ascend but hit eighty five knots, like how Yeah, this plane isn't powerful enough to fucking do that. That's that's what I was. I was trying to get up to the altitude, but I was going way too fast, so my plane would go up and go and then just fucking nose dive. I was like, why what am I doing? All? You can't go straight up for well, no, I would go, well, i'd go like this and it's just like, well, pulling straight back and it won't go on. Yeah, Like you have to find the right angle that you're there for like ten minutes extending to That's the reality of it. I think, Yeah, that's what it's like. Man, Yeah, that's it's a simulator. Next, man, I like it because it's like I liked it. I try. I try not to compare it to driving a car, because it's there's no like sudden stopping and acceleration like a car would have obviously, uh with the little cessna they give you anyway. Um, but you have to like like you said, throw slow the throttle down and climb uh to maintain a certain speed, like otherwise you'll just keep speeding up. Or if you go down, if you're descending, you'll speed up because of gravity obviously. Um. So yeah, you have to kind of like lower or hover around the lower rpm and pull up on the yoke to kind of maintain like a slower speed otherwise you'll descend. I have to think of like as an octopus. You're constantly reaching for controls, I feel like, or hitting your buttons for the short keys or whatever. It doesn't matter. But I feel like it'd be a hard game to play. If you were doing the cursor mode and like pulling out the throttle and going over here and doing this, I feel like that would be really difficult because you're, well, I like to see out the window while I'm doing that. Yeah, so I was just using the controls, you know, the whole day to push in the throttle whole b there's a fine tuning element to you your controls and and the sooner you master the relationship between all of them, you start to see a huge difference that. Okay, so I'm hitting these objectives and I'm actually controlling the plane, and then there's the analog sensitivity issue. I had to fiddle with that for ye probably an hour of my gameplay time, just going back to the frigging menu and finding something I looked up on YouTube what people recommend it. I didn't like that, and I find like I had to. I think I put it down ninety percent sensitivity on the left stick, and I think the rest of the controls like this, I couldn't design those. Yeah, I don't remember what mine looked like it was. I just found it so that I could barely touch it and I could just just move it and the plane would do exactly as I need to, instead of being like you move it a bit and the plane's like like that was driving me nuts. It was just way too sensitive. I feel like I think that was the issue. I couldn't find it. I had to adjust my thumbs. I couldn't find the setting. I don't know why, because there's so many just in the left hand controls, control options, sensitivities in the left hand corner, and you can change I don't know how do I know how I didn't see that. How did I not see that? If it's right there, I don't know because I was looking, um so about the actual gameplay itself, though. There are the training modes, and then there are once you do that, there are challenge modes where you can do various landing challenges. There's packs that you can download. I guess it's constantly being updated new new landing challenges or flight runs. You can do scenic flights, look at famous landscapes around the world, or you can create your own flight plan. Yeah, you can go fly over your house. I did that also and it was pretty accurate. Um. And you can create your own flight plan and make it happen from airport to airport, do whatever you want. It's that's basically what it is. So we can talk about the visuals next. Though the game it looks great that I thought, like, there are lots of amazing looking places that you can fly around, and that the graphics are good. I would imagine with a like a forty ninety this, you could pump this up and it would be like four K and shit, yeah, who sick. It looked pretty good on my PC, stunning. I would say stunning, Yes, beautiful, Mine was a blurry seven best lean mess. Really no, I'm just fucking it looked pretty good for like expecting to play on the series s like I wasn't like, but I could notice like some of the like like it looked blurry in some spots where it's like, probably shouldn't be blurry there, like on the like I've zoomed out to do the third person view and the plane was kind of blurry. Oh um. But like I wasn't really looking for graphics when I'm trying to fly a plane. I'm just trying to look at my I was always looking at the window. It's like looking down looking at flying over Sedona. When I was in the cockpit, everything looked really good, just because like the cockpit it's not really loading like the land you know what I mean. I don't know. It seemed to look better in the cockpit than it did when it was zoomed out. It did. I find the same the controls. The dash looked really nice, at least in the cessnas of where I put all my hours pretty much one fifty two and the dash looked really nice. And it I love that because it's more immersive in that kind of controlled environment, and so I like, I like that the dash looked really nice and the way the light the sunlight came in when you're turning the plane and stuff very cool, very cool. I did a flight over Naples, Italy and the surrounding area and it was one of them. It was one of the flight kind of packages or you can like just choose a destination, and it was like a kind of a craze level. I think I did that over like Como there. I did that one. They had some castles and cathedrals that you can fly over and actually kind of see them. I was like, oh man, that's cool and it was super sharp and like clear, but I did notice one thing it must be something. It was like there were some super weird glitchy things like trees kind of growing through buildings and big blobs of what looked like garbage on rooftops, like garbled garbage. And I was like, this looks like an AI photo or something. Oh yeah, it looks pretty realistic, but like there's some weird things that it looks like it's AI generated. I looked it up and it uses black Sharks AI driven technology. It enabled Microsoft light simulator to display the surface of the entire planet in three D. So it is AI generated three D from a from a cloud from not actually scanned kind of images from satellite. Then why would they give me that option at the beginning of the game. It is, but they take that and this black shark AI models that into three D based on like pictures and whatever. And you know what I mean of those locations. Okay, so that's how they map the satellite imagery two three D three D. Yeah, so that's why there's kind of these weird artifacts of like trees like growing through buildings, like like from far away, it looks real, yeah, but when you get a little closer, Like I was flying right above these rooftops, like these cathedrals and shit, and I was like, what is this? What is that giant ball of garbage on that building? It was just like a bunch of garbage bags are up there, Like is that real? But it was because I guess it's just because of this weird AI. It was funny. Wow. No, I didn't notice because I was just too like I looked outside the windows, but I was also just too fixated on the objectives and like flying I think so I wasn't really looking for it. Uh, yeah, it was cool. I love the I love the difference in like when you go from the Cessna to like a more more modern kind of higher tech you get the nice color displays, the GPS, the your your attitude kind of meter is bigger, so you can actually see your relation to the ground metels, Your your gauges are going to be different. Shit, yeah, it was cool. I didn't make it that far. Okay, well, let's ask is it convincing as a sim I would say yes, definitely. I mean I don't know how to I don't know how intricate the controls get. I mean, if you're flying like a giant commercial airliner, if you can actually press every fucking knob or button on the panel, like, I'm not sure, But for the little planes that I used, it was pretty pretty convincing and I felt like I was actually doing it. Do you feel you could fly a plane after playing this game? I feel like if I was in let's say, one of those passengers says I guess, I guess Assessina will have a couple of people in the back, right, Yeah, it could, I think so if the pilot had a heart attack and died in the seat, and the other people in the plane needed to land it and they had zero experience, and I played this game, I would probably have the better chance to land the plane than them from So if it was the same model, yeah, I suppose I could maybe give it a try. I have a couple of thoughts regarding that. The fun fact, first of all was I had talked to my buddy Matt, who has logged many hours into cessna's because that's what they train, that's what you train on, and he was getting his pilot license. But man, it's like super super duper expensive to get the hours required to get your license, so he hasn't finished them yet. But he did go to I think he was at Carlton. He just graduated for aeronautic engineering as well, so he's going to apply to get his engineer's license at some point soon. But yeah, so he's kind of like my flight my flight guy that I talked to about planes and stuff. So I was telling him I was about all the gauges and all the and I showed him the dash of the Sesna in the game, and he's like, that's what I fly. I know exactly what you're looking at. And I was like kind of running him through the things they were talking about, like reducing your throttle to fourteen hundred when you're landing and keeping it at sixty five knots and all this stuff. And he says, you know, blah blah blah, and it's like, that sounds pretty accurate to me. So I think the most important takeaway is whether or not you know how to fly. I assess No. One fifty two. I don't know, but I can't tell you that if I sat behind the dash or behind the yoke, I would at least know what I'm looking at. Now, it's not this kind of yeah, what do you call it? Con Yeah, you know what the gauges are and how to read them, like fifty five hundred feet looks like five thirty on the ultimity or which looks like a clock kind of thing or whatever. You know kind of how to read that, and you know what your your attitude meter looks like and all this stuff. So I feel like if I sat behind assessed to one fifty two, I would at least know what I'm looking at. And I think that's the first step to being like, well, I feel confident that I could. That the issue is actually doing it, you know what I mean, and feeling the feedback of this real plane and how to control. I feel like that that's the thing. That we didn't have any experience in it, but theoretically I think that we have a better chance than somebody who's never played flight simulator in a see fifty two in my experience anyway, all right, was it funning? I would say, I would say, yes, it is fun fun, Yeah, for sure. No not for me. Oh, I had a lot could But I'm also a plane I'm a kind of a plane nerd. Like I love the idea that what I really want to do next, and I think bottom line is I would love to keep this game on my Xbox. By the way, it's just so much space that I don't know if I can huge well. On the series S. I could install just the base piece, which was sixty gigs. I didn't see that option, yeah, like sixty five gigs or something. No, thank god, because I didn't like for that. I didn't. I finished the tutorial and I didn't do anything else, like taking off is cool, landing is is cool, but everything in between. I didn't want to do. So if they could give me like a little fast forward button, just fast forward the flight so I get into landing, you know. But yeah, that's true, because what if you want to do like a commercial flight, oh fuck, like and you want to fly like just Boston, just the training things where it was like ten minute flights. I wanted to jut on autopilot and just eight hours I was like, go up, Yeah, they had that right, and then then it turned like an auto and then when I was going straight, I was like straight for ten minutes, I was like, no, thanks, I will promptly uninstall this game and never play it again. What I would love to do, and I feel like they've done it. I think they have because I remember seeing it be like, oh my god, is I think you can get like a British spitfire from the RAF in World War Two, like they are the planes they won the Battle of Britain. Again. There are so many different packs and shit you can get. I would love to fly one of those, man, that would be so cool. So I'm gonna maybe keep it on and see if I can explore that option post post playthroughs for the show, And that would be like the final thing where if I was ready to finish. Okay, I played a spitfire. I learned how to fly it and I did it successfully, and that's it. Definitely recommend flights Him for a sim game, like you have to do flights Him. Okay, very that's good. Let's move on. Then move on to Farming Simulator twenty twenty two by Giants Software. The gameplay, we'll talk about the gameplay. This game just for me anyway. It tossed me into and gave me nothing. I just I had to start. I guess you have to start on easy mode to get any kind of tutorial, which I didn't get. It just put me on a little parking lot and I was like, okay, based on the map, you choo if you get the toil or not. Yeah, oh really yeah. So there's the three maps, the one, two, and then the Mountain Town. I jumped into the Mountain Town because it looks super nice and I was like, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah, but then it's like, oh, if you want the toy, they have to go into the first map, which is like a regular farm looking like Middle East or like the Midwest. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Well that's how it's like, what the hell am I doing? I want to do forestry. I don't want to do like normal shit. I was like, well, I want to be like a forest cut down some trees. So I went and bought a tree harvester or a tree cutting thing. Then I was like, okay, I'm gonna need a transport for logs. Probably Like I'm just looking through like the different equipment that I could buy. I'm like, I'm gonna need one of those. I'm like, yeah, that makes sense. But then when I went around I tried to cut trees down, it told me it wasn't allowed to cut any trees and I was like, what was it not your Yeah? Yeah, because you have also you have to you have to buy land. First. You have to buy the land, which I had no idea. We have to actually go to the map and like buy a plot and then trees down? Are you doing? And they have to plant trees I guess, and let them grow so then you could cut them down. So I needed to buy a tree planter. I was like, oh, I got speaking of like what you need to buy. Did you see that there were pat maybe there was one for forestry. I don't know, but like in the venues, there were packs for for if you wanted to be like a cotton farmer or an olive farmer, and they they tell you in that olive pack what you wreck it, what they recommend you buy in terms of tractor and processing machines and all this stuff. So I didn't see that, So there might have been sather categories like forestry. I was like, Okay, I'm gonna need this, this and this, and but I had spent like half my money before I knew like that, I like what one point five million euros or something, I don't remember, and I had to buy like my land then, and I had to buy all this other show. I was like, fuck, I was buying like equipment, so I guess. But if you go to the help menu, it does tell you kind of everything you need to do. Like I had to buy a planter with palettes of trees, and I had to load the palettes onto the planter. But I need the tractor to pull and operate the planter. But then I thought I needed a forklift. It's really menus are so dumb. Yeah, yeah, I thought I needed a forklift to like lift the palettes onto the planter so I was trying for like an hour to lift with a forklift the planters under the stupid thing, when all you had to do was connected to your fucking tractor and press why beside the planter and it would just put it on. And I was like fucking around with atial even though the toorial wasn't great, Oh my god, it was fucking ridiculous. I was like, I wasted about an hour doing that. I got to I wanted to swap the planter out for a different type of tree. Nope, can't do that. I looked it up. You apparently cannot do that. You have to plant all two thousand poplars in this palette and let it empty before you can load it with a different tree. So you would have to go buy a new planter and load it with a different tree, you know, and change the trailer over. Like I was like, what that is not very simulator. That's so stupid. It's like, I can't change this palette over. Yeah, freedom would be a good element to have for simulation. I guess alecn sum up is this. It was very tedious, very tedious, and I mean it's well done because it does take in all the like the market, the economy and all that for like buying and selling and like distribution and storing. You have to like do all of that. Look at business, very tedious, look a business. But like the even just even the tutorial wasn't great. So it's like, oh, I got to a spot in the in the tutorial, it's like it gives you like the green like cylinder where exclamation marks and what what what is? I saw that a couple of times. I was like, yeah, so it's like where to go to the next tutorial spot? Right? So I did a few of them, like okay, cool, I chopped down or I am started harvesting my wheat and then I started but it digging the dirt in the field ready for the seeds. I got to that part of cultivating, cultivating. So I cultivated the field and it's like, oh, it's like, go get a sewing machine and sow the seeds. I'm like, what the fuck is a sewing machine? Like what does it look like? Right? Like to me? A sewing machine? Men's my garments supposed to do with this thing? You're like? And I looked around and I couldn't see the green pillar. So I was like, what is a sewing machine, Like, I don't know what the fuck it is. So I'm like running around for like an hour and a half. I'm like, I don't know what I'm supposed to do here. He's just dragging a sewing machine on a rope behind the tractor through the dirt. Was brutal, singer. If you're training me to be a farmer, say, oh, go get your sewing machine, especially nottorial. Show me a picture of what it looks like. What I mean, so I know what I'm looking for. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck that is. That pissed me off, and I was like m eventually found out what it was, and I had to wait till my AI guy was done the done cultivating the fields because he did one field and then I couldn't see the second field because it was like over a little hill, I guess, and I thought he would had done the first field, so I was like, okay, so what am I supposed to do next? But after wasting a bunch of time looking for this sewing machine, the AI, my AI helper finally finished the second field. Then the green thing popped up over the sewing machine. I was like, I'm done. I didn't have an AI guy. You know why, because you can plant trees without a field. You can plant them without cultivating. You just plant. So I was like, oh, can I hire an AI dude? And I clicked on the thing to hire it, and it says you don't have any fields, So there was an error. So I couldn't hire an AI guy because I didn't cultivate a field to plant my trees. I was just planting them in the ground. Hiring i AI workers is a is a cool feature. I like that idea. At least that was cool because you can't like do everything yourself in these if you have like massive fields or whatever. Right, yeah, I mean you could, but if you wanted to, maybe it would take forever, but it would take even cutting down the trees I was I finally, I didn't plant any I was just cutting down the trees that were on my property. I was like, Oh, I had this the cool the truck that you go in and and you unfold it and it's got this giant saw thing on it and you clamp onto the tree and it just it just cuts it and it grabs it and I bring it over here and then it'll run it through and cut it at certain lengths. So I just create logs. So I just did that. I created a bunch of logs. I was like, okay, okay. And then I had to load the logs onto my transport to bring it down to the town to sell, and just doing that took forever. It was so tedious going to town. No like loading the logs onto my stupid transport. I had the little clothing I had. Going to town was brutal. Like going to town to sell video, Oh my god. Yes, And I had a video where I was like, all right, my I sent them a video of me just picking it up, picking up logs, putting on the thing, and it was in three speed and it was still so slow, like it took forever. And then I drove off my lot and my third first corner and my whole truck just tipped over it and I found I was like, oh my god. And then I had to like use the arm to brought myself back up. It worked pretty well, and then I sold. I made three hundred and something euros my total time of like three hours playing this game. Wow, pretty good. Three hundred euros, I think. So I sold some logs but I think like I think, like you have to wait for the lugs to sell because and I don't really understand the economy thing because you have to set to like distribution or storage or shipping, Like I don't really know what the fuck that means. So higher Ai Helper, Yeah, I don't know. I did make a small amount of money on the wood though. I had an interesting experience with farming sim. So my friend Jason Jacks are twenty one shout out buddy. He's always looking for a shout out. He's a huge farming sim fan and he's logged hours and hours and hours and hours of gameplay with Steve Reyboddy. Yeah really, he loves he loves games like that where Medieval Dynasty he loved because it's like Sandbox mode and you build things and you have to do everything yourself and collect thing like resources and then use those resources process them. He loves that stuff. Then, know, what are you gonna say? Is it co op? Can you jump on your buddy's farm? And yes, so that's what form. So oh yeah, oh that's my experience with this game. And I was like, man, I did the same thing as Jonathan. I jumped in on medium mode. I didn't do easy because I was like, man, whatever, I'll try like the middle of the road experience. And I landed beside a barn in the middle of this like rural town. I was like the fuck. I was like, where am I? And I start going up to like the barns and there's like vehicles in them. I go up to the crops in the in the farmlands and it's like owned by leon something. I was like, shouldn't these be my crops that I didn't know you had to like buy land and whatever. Right, So I was like, this is so confusing. And then Jason saw that I was playing it on xboxing invitaminty Party and he's like, oh, are you liking it? And I was like I just jigged in and confused this shit. So I told him what I did and that I didn't do the tutorial thing. He's like, oh, Daniel, He's like, you should have played the tutorial. So he had this idea. He's like, why don't I invite you to my farm and then I'll just show you around my farm and we'll do things together. So it'd be like you came to my farm in real life and I'd just show you a day on a day in the life. And I was like, oh, I was like, I like that idea. Okay, so we'll try it. That's funny. So he invited me to his farm and I spawned on his porch or whatever, and we're running around together on his farm and he's showing me everything, like he had like silos full of grain, he had like chicken coops, he had fields full of I think it was sunflowers was his main thing. I don't know why, because he also plays them with his kids, right, and his daughter thought sunflowers were pretty, so he planted those and he cultivates those or he harvests those. And he had like apiaries like bee farms um and and Steve beside him in the next neighboring plot had like lambs or sheep or whatever. He was showing me around and we I drove his tractor. He had horses, which is kind of cool because obviously his daughter, you know, horses and you can ride them around and get there at happiness up to one hundred percent or whatever. So he exercised them. So the first thing we did was He's like, Okay, Dan, so we're gonna harvest some some We're gonna take some of this honey. And he had like pallets of honey that he I guess had harvested from his bees. He's like, so get on in that forklift there and and we'll and we'll get that honey out of the back of the pickup truck and we'll go down to the store and we'll sell it. I was like, okay, cool, so he's hiring this. But the problem was he was playing on cloud streaming, so he it was so laggy for some it's like some parts and uh. I was trying to like operate the forklift and sometimes it was working. We actually didn't have a problem with this. But I picked up the palette with the worklift and I put it on the back of the truck, and I would like I would bring the forks down too much, and the back of the pickup truck would be like wha. I'm like shit. It was like really weird and awkward to do. But we got it on the back and we drove all the way down. I was like, he's like, okay, you drive the truck. So I got in the truck and it started lagging like rubber banding. Everywhere, and I ran over a bunch of his fucking his sunflowers and just just totally and he was like, no, and I took I think I took a picture or a screenshot or whatever. And there's just like dirt tired treads through the freaking the This is dad. I didn't want an accident. But we got down to the store and you can like reverse onto because there's like a little a little blip with an icon that says where you can back in your product and it'll just like automatically take it from you. So I backed in the pickup truck there and we sold it. So yeah, you can produce all this stuff and sell it too. And there is like a either a distribution thing or a selling thing, and I think you can choose whichever you want to do. If you want to do distribution, you have to take it yourself to the stores and sell. Oh. I think there's also a way where it just automatically sells to certain stores. I don't know for sure. He might I think that's what he said. I'm not sure. But we also cut down some trees with a chainsaw, like you change your hand tool. Yeah, and he's like, just put this tree down, so he did, and I cut it down, and you can like, yeah, you pick up the logs, you put it on the truck, I guess, and you bring it somewhere else. But we didn't use like machinery for it. It was just just a chainsaw to cut my logs in half, like an fit on my transport because they were too long. Yeah, you have to, but we also he also was like, okay, so now I want you to get in the harvester and come with me and we'll set it up. So I harvested like a few rows of his sunflowers, which was really cool because you have to first you harvest when they're ready to go. Because he fast forwarded to harvest season. And because you can do that, you can play with time. You can I think in time speed. You can speed time up right, so you're not just freaking waiting forever, unlike flight simulator, I guess. So yeah, I harvested a bunch of his sunflower seeds and we did that, and then we grabbed the cultivator and we dragged that thing along it. So after you harvest, the soil is a mess, so you have to like turn it over and refresh it out before you can. Yeah. Yeah, so that's what the cultivator is doing, I guess. So we did that together, and we also weeded, and there's a process to all this. So before you seed, you have to like d rock, so you have to go around with this giant rock thing which picks up rocks through the soil. Then you can like weed, Then you can plant and do all this shit right. Then you have a roller. After you plant the seeds, you gotta roll it so that they tap. It tamps the seeds down into the dirt. Pretty cool. And you get this. You gotta get machinery for all of this. He was showing me like his lineup of machinery and I was like, holy funk. I was like, do you have like a order in which you use these and that's how you set it up. He's like, oh no, everything's all over the place. I'm like, okay, but wow. I attached the stone the stone lifter to the tractor and it was still laggy as shit. So I was just driving really slowly to one of his fields and I had to pass the bee farm, the apia, the apiary, and I dragged the stone lifter through the apiator the apiary he's liked. But it was fine. I don't think it did anything, but that was like my experience. It was it was kind of cool because I saw a fully developed farm instead of just kind of starting in the middle of nowhere and having not enough time to get there. He gave me the upper too. It was fun, It was cool. It was an experience to do because I didn't know at first that you could do the co op thing. So that's what I decided to do. And then see how at all it's cool. You'd cool. He spends a lot of time selling shit and and like he's got strawberries and little greenhouses and stuff too. It's fun. I don't think i'd play it as much as I would flight simulator. You know. The visuals were pretty basic also, we talked over the move talk like but like the equipment models are where most of the time was spent, and you can obviously tell, but like the terrain didn't look and there was a lot of motion blur, yes, especially on the series s, and the amount of popping on the series as was redunctant. Like the visuals are it looked it looked a bit dated, but like the models of the equipment were nice and convincing as a sim Yeah, convincing as a sim yes, yeah, absolutely, very tedious. Yeah, economy, supply and demand, everything, everything that you would probably do in real life. But it's like it's very much farm work. Yeah. I like the feeling when I was driving the tractor down my wheat field and harvesting the wheat, like just seeing the wheat disappear, like cleaning the field. That that was. That was very satisfying. I like that I didn't get to that point. I drove my slow ass tractor down the street, just like in real life, people stuck behind me in traffic. I was like, oh my god, driving this stupid and it takes forever. It took me forever to get to town. Travel Oh really, yeah, I just kept I drove to town looking where to drop off my wheat, and you can get the things delivered. You could tell your vehicle to like come here, come back. So I drove, I drove town, delivered my wheat, got paid, went to the store, bought more seeds. Although it's realistic because I drove over multiple people and they just went right through that my vehicle, not very realistic. Imagine they just scratched, much more realistic. The cops are after you. Do you feel you could be a farmer after playing this I always felt like I could be a farmer. I mean playing Harvest Moon Games, I was drying well. We were driving to to Nate's place yesterday and he's like in the middle of farmland. And after playing this game, I was looking at everything. I was like, I kind of have, even just in those couple hours, a deeper appreciation maybe of what they have to do on a daily basis and on a monthly basis, a yearly basis. We know grew up Yeah, knowing farm I feel like maybe you love that type of yeah, yeah, yeah, but they're not the ones playing this game. But I kind of don't have time for playing this game. After watching Clarkson's Farm on Amazon Prime, like getting onto the farm, I was like, oh, this is pretty cool. It's like and then I would just keep thinking of Clarkson's farm, like I kind of knew. I didn't know what a sewing machine was, but I kind of knew, like what the tractor did you know? Um, after you harvest your wheat, you have to pour the wheat from the harvester into like a a big tractor to take the wheat somewhere else. Yeah, like that was cool. I drove my my tractor up to and I drove my tractor up and the little spout came out started pouring out the wheat into the holder, and I was like, drive that back. That was pretty sweet, all right, because you have arm I had more fun in farming simulator than I did in playing simulator. What really? Yeah, I had no fun playing this game. Zero fun, not an ounce of fun playing this game. But you know, I only had fun because I was playing with Jason. That's the only reason. Because we were doing stuff together. That was it. I don't think I would have had fun doing this solo. Maybe yeah, if you did it with a friend, like from scratch, it might be funner. But man, I liked it. I want my three hours back. I liked the business aspect of it too. That could be also, it was more churning in my bain, in my brain, like the numbers and all that. There's definitely more things to do than in like plane simulator or a flight simulator where you're just sitting there flying some borings. Fuck, it is very tedious, Like, yeah, well so is Harvest Moon. What I like about Harvest Moon is it takes all that away and you just have plant crop, water, crop, throw crop in bin, get exactly, give presents to girls. Yeah was there. I don't even remember hearing any music in just the sound of the mountain, the nature. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Oh, I got so uh we have Methanel said it was fun. I said, no fun, Daniel, you said it's no fun. I don't think it would be fun. So I had fun co op though, So it's hard to say I'm in between there. Well you had fun convincing sure? Yeah? Oh yeah, all right, there you go. Um let's move on to train some World three by Dovetail Games. Now, I noticed a bit this game was kind of buggy in the in my tutorials. Yeah, I don't know if you guys noticed the same thing. I was going through the tutorials how to operate the controls and stuff, and a lot of my input wouldn't register, Like on the controller. I had to manually grab the lever and like press it. Yeah, and I had to be so precise on each fucking switch, like trying to get the stick to get right on the notch, to flip it man drive me crazy. But sometimes like I'm supposed to press the size press, I like press right trigger and I would be pressing it, it wouldn't do anything, and I had to go actually onto the control and switch it manually for it to work. I found that was different between trains too, like in between the train models. Yeah. Yeah, like the one train was stripper easy like the supers. Yeah, when you were switching the junctions. Was that working for you, because at the first I went to the it wasn't working. I was clicking on the junction and it wouldn't do anything, and it wouldn't progress me because the precision you had to zoom in and get I did, but it wouldn't do anything. I had to restart the fucking mission and then to get it to work. Yeah, it was very dumb and like the mission was one bug. For that I had to restart and then it worked fine. Yeah. Yeah, it happened to me multiple times the mission where I had first had to take a loop of the track and it told me like everything to do. I followed the instructions to a t and the train did not move. It did nothing. It just sat there. And then I restarted the mission and it fucking worked, and I'm like, what the fuck is this game? Like? Yeah, Then I realized later that there was a light for if the train has power or not at the third rail, and it was odd, meaning that I did not have power, which the next mission idea taught me how to correct that, which is odd that it even happened in the first place, Like how did that become on where I didn't have power? But there's a button you have to press called like shoes down or something to lower the thing to connect to the third rail, and then the light goes off and then you can take off. That's weird. What I found weird was the I didn't know what one to do next. So I did the beginning one and it was pretty easy, like some training. Yeah, and then the next training thing there was all these switches that they didn't tell me about in the last one, so I didn't know if I was at the right one. But it was a different train model. I go, why because different training The training for each train a man. And then I sit down in this train, I'm like, okay, so I do what I learned in the first beginner's thing. So I did all that shit, and the train wouldn't move. I'm like, god, it's like and it didn't really tell me what to do, so I had to google it. It was like, oh, for this train model, you have to switch this fucking thing up. And I'm like okay, and I'm looking around like, oh, I see it my shoes down. No, it wasn't as shoes, it was something else. And I flipped that switch, did all the brakes and stuff. I still could not get this fucking train to move. So I was like, now, next train. So I jump into the next train, and it's like, oh, before you sit down, there's like a bunch of there's like a wall of switches behind the conductor seat right, and then it took me over to these switches and I was like switching things and then before I sat down, I had to turn keys and flip all these switches. Man, oh my god. And then I sat down. The forward gear you had forward neutral reverse. I couldn't get a train to move unless it was like the first intro train model. Like every other train, I could not built it. I could not get the yeah, this is fucking dumb. I did like I did, like the guy who talked to me like an old grandpa voice. He was pretty cool. Was he British? I had him woman, No, it's some old dude. Yeah, me too, really the old dude I had the woman. I did all the basic like modules at first, and there's only a handful of them, and then they put you in the basic training for that red that old tin red roof fucking thing that was like super old, and I think it was like the nineties. Actually wasn't that old. It was built in like the nine nineteen ninety six or some shit. Yeah, and uh, and it had the the position the throttle on the right with the forward reverse thing underneath it um and the break the break what do you call those levers to your left there? So I like separate break and power because on the more modern trains it's all they're together. It's it's one thing which I liked. So I did find with with the training in that old Canadian model, and you had to they get you to just move back and forth whatever, and then set your speed limit. And then what I did like about the game at first, I was a little bored. That's I kept saying, like, I don't know if I can play more than the hour of this. But then I found myself playing like two three hours. I was like, what am I doing? Did you do the high speed run mission? I don't know. I don't know if it was a different DLCs. I did a train I did like a route in England. It was like a it was high speed, yes, but I I was playing at it and I was like actually playing it for like an hour and a half and I was like, what, Yeah, it was a lot to be forty minutes to do this whole route. I think that's what the time elapsed at the end was. And but yeah, that's where I noticed that the throttle and break, like the power and breaks were and one on that one it was a blue and white train. Yea like Rememberings or whatever. Yeah, but yeah, like I had a glitch. I did have a bug where I had to they had to back. They wanted you to back up after you hit a certain checkpoint, reverse and then connect to the the what do they call them, okay kabooses kabayas. You had to connect in the back. But I I was like, how am I going to know? And I didn't know you could like when I hit right stick for outside camera, I didn't know you could move it around. So I thought, oh, this is my reverse camera. It's a camera on the side of the train, which doesn't tell me any completely freely. Yeah, even while you're like driving. Yeah, that was cool. That was like the high speed run it was called. It was relaxing. I found that one really. I don't know, maybe that's why's that's what made me like my experience. I was like, oh, okay, stop here, open the doors. Yeah, open the doors, let people come in the doors. I had a lot of hard doing that one. So and then I started thinking, should I be a train conductor? Should I fly to it? It seems to be very easy, like you literally just press a button. There's no steering wheel. Well because you're not doing anything, you're just kind of you're just seeing the controls. Yeah yeah, yeah, breaking, but like I still couldn't. It's like take off the break and then put on the other break. Take that. You just have to feel it out for slowing down and stopping at the right time. You apply a little bit of break and a lot of it is coasting because you can just coast and the train doesn't slow down because it's on rails, you know what I mean. And there's like I don't know, and it's so heavy and there's no real resistance, so you can just it would coast. It's just very very slowly. Yeah, so you just have to direct weight. And the auto breaks were confusing on that one model. The direct like turn on direct breaks and use that. And I was like, what, there's auto brakes and there's direct breaks. So it's like you had manual control over direct I think, but direct also applied to just your locomotive, not the things behind it or something. I don't remember how that worked, but a little confusing there. I'm not sure. But once I got to that England train, I was like, this is cool and I started raining. I was like, uh, wiper control intermittent, It's like it was. It was sweet. I ended up liking it because of that stupid mission that I did where I had to drop a bunch of people. Often. Yeah, it was going, yeah, you go to the next stop. It's like, okay, what do we do? I'm two minutes behind here. I was two or three minutes behind because I sat there with my doors locked and I thought they were open, and I was waiting for passengers to load when it wasn't loading. Because the doors are closed. I was like, oh fuck, my doors are closed. I was sitting there for three minutes. I'm behind schedule by three minutes. So I had to bomb it. I had to bomb it on the next run over the speed limit and uh. And then I ended up like on time after and I was like, yeah, yeah, we're on time. See that. I'm like, Pam thirty seconds early. I'm thirty seconds early. I'm just sit here and wait for everyone. It's like it's like wait for this time and then depart. I'm like, we'll do I'm on schedule. And I was just doing that for a while. Yeah. And I was just doing that for a bunch. It was so dumb though, I'm just like what am I doing? You just sit there? Yeah. I just found it relaxing. And that's with all of these games. Yeah, it is kind of relaxing. And I was like, was the most flights It should be called flight stimulator, That's what should be called because it was the most Like I feel like I was the most tense playing Flightsima because I was trying to hit those objectives, whereas like Train Cimator, I was just like I could have read a book while doing it. Yeah, exactly, you just literally sit there. I went to take a piss. I went to take a piss while my train was headed to the next station. I was like, oh, I'm gonna take fiss. And I came back and it was exactly the same as when I left it. Just because the next stop is like eight minutes away. I'm like, oh my god, I'm just gonna sit here for eight minutes. Yeah, but I did this one good game. It's a good game for people who you know how there are people that who love trains, people out there who just like rain. Yes, absolutely, they would love it. They would love it. Was like, not for me, more for the train enthusiast. I am not that. Yeah, Okay, I drove this one mission that was like eighty six kilometers. That was the whole mission. But I guess as part of the mission, something with the train was going wrong and it and it asks you to stop at this certain the tunnel. No, it wasn't in anet in a tunnel. No, But it didn't even lappen to me get to the place that it stopped, like it wouldn't. It said stop over there five like wherever it is like five miles away. I'm like, okay, I'll do that when I get there. But then it started stopping the train automatically on its own, and it was fucking beeping at me. I'm like, what the hell is this? And it stopped five hundred meters before the stop checkpoint and it wouldn't let me turn it on and move forward, like it wouldn't let me do anything because of this fucking beeping air thing and just get beating. Could you continue? Did it so it couldn't continue the sequence because you didn't get to the checkpoint. Yeah, it stopped me before that, like I couldn't put any controls in. I took the break off. I put it like it was, and that's when I stopped playing. I was like, this is fucking dumb. Interesting but yeah, And that was on some high speed, fucking German the German UH train. It was going like two hundred and fifty kilometers an arrow that happened on the the English train where I think you're in. I don't know where you are or whatever, but at one point it's funny because I was about to turn the game off. I was like, okay, so you just drive from station station and load people up. But then as soon as I thought that, it was like we headed it under a tunnel and it was like emergency stop, applied, emergency brakes, apply emergency brakes immediately or whatever's like what it was like, Oh okay, so I pulled the brakes and it was like, um, I got a message saying one of the passengers is as Uh communicating that one of the back doors is opened during travel, and I was like what the fuck. I was like, it was like b b B b B, because it's like, please go and back the door. Something automatically happened. No, it did it automatically as just kind of part of the part of the quote unquote. So I went back there, I had to close the door, wait for it to close. You're like okay, so you head back up into the control room and then you get back going. So it was like they throw in these little things maybe so it's not so boring. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, but I had thought about that turning it off just before that happened. I was like, oh okay, that was kind of cool. But then I just it's like, oh, there is a warn't imagine it's a jumper. Okay, what about the visuals. Nothing special on Xbox. I played on Xboxes for this because because I don't know why, I just wanted to sit on the couch and play it. Nothing special on Xbox one't tell you that. But I don't think models are still nice though, Yeah, well yeah, obviously the train is like that's where they concentrate on it. But like, the environments were just not very They were very bland, like repeating textures everywhere, lots of motion or though, which kind of made it look a little more realistic. Trains go by you when you're that was immediate vicinity, lots of motion blurs did kind of look realistic. Um, but there were some points when I was getting like tan Fbs climbing into mic Co. It's like that German train. Yeah I'm but I have an old Xboxing, but it looks like a space ship. That German train I was in. Everything was white, it was all white, that the dash was white, and these white levers. It looked like a fucking spaceship. And the thing just flew and the thing was talking to me in German. I had no idea what it was saying. I was like, uh, that's and that's the one that was beeping at me. I was like, man, I don't know what the hell is happening? All right, convincing as a sim yes, yes, yeah, I believe that was driving a train. I think I could drive a train. Now I could drive that train not applied to via rail. How many hours you have in train simulator so you feel you could operate a train? After playing this, I feel like, good, No, again, it's the same thing now, you know, at least you know, like there were still a lot of in the English train, there were still a lot of knobs and switches. I was like, I looked at them, but I don't know what they do. But I knew I had I understood the concept of some throttles are combined with the brake control and YadA, YadA, YadA. So that was kind and that I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know that's how trains worked. That they had a switch, which makes total sense. There's no like gear that you I mean, I guess it is technically the gear, but I didn't know it was kind of as streamlined as that. So that's kind of cool and you'd know to look for that. But I think even just between the truth the two trains. They're wildly different between how you would start them up and stuff. I think I feel like that would be a little bit great. You'd need training on all that stuff, but I felt it was convincing. I was like, this is cool. It makes sense. Um, I wonder what a real train conductor would say. I had fun. I thought it was fun at first. I was like, this is so blah, but once I got the drop off the I don't know what you call that, the mission or scenario. I think that's what the term. Well, there's one you can fly do a full day of, like like scheduled runs like that was one of the missions you could just do, like you have to schedule run. I mean it's boring, but farm simulator was tedious and boring. This is just boring without tedious, so it wasn't quite as bad. But I did Yeah, I did have some fun doing the little drop offs and stuff, but like, you can only do it for so long. Like I mean, the train drives itself, I think drives itself. Yeah, and the scenery isn't even that good, so like I would way rather play flight simulator because the scenery is just better. Yeah, So I'm gonna say, not very fun. Nope, zero fun. I had fun. I had a bit. I didn't have as much fun as flight simulator. I definitely had probably more fun than farming simulator, so I still had fun once I did this once I did this scenario in England with the English, so I will say I had fun. Okay to the training. So that being said, after all these are done, Now what we gotta say? Which one is best? Did we go around to do our final verdicts each? I think maybe each? Like I think a flight simulator is a clear winner here, But Nathaniel didn't have fun flight simulator. I don't think any of these games are for me. I'm just I'm just too impatient. Like I did the express some reservation before week. If I had to pick one to play over the others, you would probably be farm simulator because it's the easiest and less control SIMMI, Um, easiest are you talking about? Like? Yeah, because I don't have to when I jump into the each tractor, I don't have to dial and switch and pull levers and I just drive the you know what I mean? Like, these aren't for me. These aren't for me. I don't like this shit. I don't like it at all. Okay, well, I think Flightsimulator is the best, the best one. Um. I think I knew that going into this. I was like, well, I'm probably still going to enjoy flights in Yeah, but that's because I like planes more than I like fucking trains, and I like flying more than doing farm work and cutting down trees and stacking logs or sitting on a train reading a book. They must get a lot of reading done train conductors, I'm sure. Yeah, but yeah, I mean, if you're interested in any of these games, hopefully we kind of laid it out there. They're all. There are so many more to like. We just cho based basing. But based on these three, I don't think I'll ever play another one, you know what I mean, Like, I just can't do that. I just can't sit there and do nothing. I can't sit there and be bored playing video games like, I cannot do it. I can't. That's yeah, that's a that's a good point. So the answer to our sim games fun Maybe the answer is maybe depends on who you are. I guess who you are as a human being, as a human being, and interest a lot of fun here. Yeah, I'm not interested in planes. I'm not interested in trains. I'm not interested in tractors, you know what I mean, Like, I'm not interested. What would a simulation be a video game simulator? Nathanom was like, where you sit there and play a game, playing a game where you have a controller and you have to press the button. This is really realistic. This is realistic. I would have liked to try compete what is it, PC Building simulator, right, I would have loved to try that. But I would have the Mechanics simulator. Yeah, car Mechanics sim I have it on Epic Games. Actually, oh right, yeah, but the PC gaming simular I have to pay like fifty bucks. I was like, now I'm not gonna do it. Oh it's an actual thing then yeah, yeah, all right. I would like to hear from from people who play these games on a regular basis or or I would have liked Porn Producer Simulator. I would have liked that one too. That might be on Steam. There's a lot of those weird games on Steam. Um, but yeah, I want to hear anyone if anyone is playing these games, like playing Flight Simulator on a regular basis, Like what kind of like flights are you doing? Are you doing like long flights? Like? Uh, Like, I saw a guy on YouTube who did a video of his flight that he did from like Boston to San Diego or something, and he did the whole thing. I guess, like that's gonna be six hours or something. And but he obviously only showed he only showed the acoff and landing. But he had like one hundred dollars worth of graphics mods or something on it, so it looked amazing. Yeah, I don't know if you can buy mods in this store for the game, like that make the graphics better. Yeah, he had like a thirty ninety or something four K. It looked really nice, look very real, and he showed all these different cameras switch in the camera angles. He had a Thrustmaster throttle. Yeah that's a joystick like a like a like a peripheral. Yeah, yeah it was. It looked really cool, But I mean that's what you do if you're into that thing. Yep. If you're in the train simulating between you're either all like Nathaniel or you're super gung ho, because why the why else would you play these games if you're not super into flying and and farming and trained driving. Yeah, okay, well then we can put it to rest for the for the person who's just hovering wondering about it there, you know, you know, you know, then you're probably not going to enjoy exactly if you're a hovering then you're probably you're like farm simulator or what this is all about. Yeah, it's exactly what it sounds like. They'll either put two hours or two million hours into it just to like see, you know, if you love doing tedious, busy work, this game is for you. I think Dad ruined that for us when we were growing up. Yeah, just making us do random shit all the time just to get us off the computer. All right, Well, I think that's it for this week's episode. We want to thank everyone for taking the time to listen, and I hope we provided some insight about these simulators. And we assume that most simulators are the same, you know what I mean, Like we have to just choose three. But that's we gave you the story and the scoop. 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