EP 75 - Wheelin' & Dealin' Game Suggestions

[00:00:00] That's that's when you just yell out hell yeah

[00:00:02] Hell yeah

[00:00:05] Give me hell yeah

[00:00:07] Oh, man, but yeah

[00:00:09] That was my Monday

[00:00:12] Just another Monday

[00:00:14] Another Monday

[00:00:17] Another man ass Monday

[00:00:56] Welcome back to Super Ghost Radio. I am your host Jerry and as always well

[00:01:01] I shouldn't say as always

[00:01:03] but goddamn it we're finally back together after a

[00:01:08] tumultuous summer of back pain and

[00:01:12] Vacation weddings and holidays

[00:01:14] The dream team is back ladies and gentlemen. I am here with Greg and Beth guys

[00:01:20] Say hello to the folks

[00:01:22] Hello

[00:01:24] Hello folks

[00:01:27] Hello folks

[00:01:30] So

[00:01:31] Yeah, it's it's been it's been a minute since we

[00:01:36] Haven't been on a hiatus more so just things have been

[00:01:40] Complicated lately just trying to schedule things and I've been dying with back pain

[00:01:45] I've been off of your regular programming of this show retro rehab and super pod and all all the other things

[00:01:53] So yeah, it's been a minute

[00:01:56] no hiatus but just

[00:01:58] Taking a taking a summer summer breezy break or we've been my whole be so busy that like

[00:02:05] Compared to how much we normally talk. We've barely talked by comparison. Yeah, I know yeah

[00:02:09] I know it was it was nice to it was nice to connect last night

[00:02:14] Yeah, Jerry. Yeah, it was fantastic

[00:02:16] We should do it more often

[00:02:19] I'm sure we will now that the summer is coming to a close

[00:02:23] But what have you guys been doing like what have you been playing?

[00:02:27] This is we play video games still right Beth you still like video games

[00:02:32] No, it's been a rough. It's been a rough year

[00:02:36] My relationship with video games is you know been more screen than ever I

[00:02:43] After months of therapy and a nice separation. I think we've come back together

[00:02:49] and found some good places and

[00:02:54] I guess

[00:02:55] I've been playing like five different games

[00:02:58] Why are they all farm Sims?

[00:03:01] Three of them. No, so you fell back into an abusive relationship

[00:03:06] Okay

[00:03:08] It's not Nicole's game where we love Nicole

[00:03:13] Love Nikki

[00:03:15] Oh

[00:03:20] Yeah, I was also I was like is there a game that she plays

[00:03:24] I was using Nikki's government name

[00:03:28] Okay. No, no

[00:03:30] nothing like that but um

[00:03:33] You know we

[00:03:35] Play I played I guess like I guess like for I don't know if you want to like talk about Dawn trail right now

[00:03:41] More of an extended thing at a different point but played that

[00:03:45] You know finish the MSQ did some of the stuff at the end

[00:03:51] But then after that I kind of was like, I don't know what I really want to do and then I saw this

[00:03:58] This like

[00:04:00] Game doing the rounds every like a lot. It was coming up on my ticktocks a lot

[00:04:04] I was seeing I had heard stuff about it. It was in the wholesome game direct

[00:04:07] So I was like, okay. It was called fields of mystery and it was only out in early access

[00:04:13] Like it just came out on early access and it's like a farm Sam like Stardew Valley

[00:04:19] But all of the sprite

[00:04:22] Work is like inspired by like Sailor Moon

[00:04:26] S it looks like 90s anime 90s anime and

[00:04:30] I

[00:04:31] Fucking was having so much fun and they're in the there's like a like the mines and stuff like in

[00:04:40] Stardew Valley except there's like a storyline like you hit floor 10

[00:04:44] And then suddenly like you someone's like being like hell like, you know or whatever

[00:04:49] There's like some mysterious dragon stuff and you do have like a little bit of magic kind of contours or like your stamina and

[00:04:57] So I was like really

[00:04:59] invested in

[00:05:01] Actually, like I barely did much with my farm other than trying to get money so that I could get better

[00:05:06] because you can get it you get like you have to craft equipment and

[00:05:09] Weapons so that you can do stuff in the mines better. So I was like

[00:05:15] All in I was obsessed and then I hit floor 60 and it was like oh you need to come back later

[00:05:20] And that's when I realized that that's where the early access stuff had ended and I was like, oh my god

[00:05:25] I played like I had played 50 hours of it in

[00:05:29] What were you playing this on steam? It's only available on steam. Is it free early access?

[00:05:36] No, it's like $15, but I don't have to like

[00:05:40] Once when the updates like I own it I own it now

[00:05:44] so the update is

[00:05:47] Coming like the full game is releasing

[00:05:50] By the end of this year it says and then they're doing like kind of like a big like some marginal kind of like

[00:05:56] updates similar like Stardew Valley, but the main thing is

[00:06:01] The once when I can get from floor 60 to 100. I want to know the story. I really like this game

[00:06:08] It's really fun. And what did you say the name of it was?

[00:06:11] fields of mystery and

[00:06:15] the

[00:06:17] Characters in it are really good Jerry. There's this witch girl

[00:06:20] I know if you could if you played this game you that's who you'd pick as to be a romantic partner

[00:06:25] I I saw her and I was like Jerry go Jerry would love her and the

[00:06:32] He'd raise some hogs. He would I'm saying absolutely

[00:06:36] And she has a cute dog

[00:06:39] So I was like dogs are good. Yeah, and there's a chicken that you can also befriend

[00:06:43] It's so fucking cute and it's so fun

[00:06:46] And I I was obsessed for like I'm not kidding. I played for like a week straight

[00:06:50] I was like staying awake sleeping for a couple hours getting back up

[00:06:53] I don't have a job right now and I can't fucking find one

[00:06:56] So I was like full-time farm work slash getting these mines

[00:07:00] Maybe she'll say

[00:07:02] Slightly funny is that if you go on to the steam community page or like the the we're like everyone posts

[00:07:10] Comments or whatever most of them are just like

[00:07:15] Asking the developers to let everybody romance the hunky blacksmith named Ulrich and I agree

[00:07:22] Like let us romance Ulrich. It's criminal that we can't

[00:07:28] So it's great. Oh Rick

[00:07:30] Free or and then I started playing and then I finished that and I still wanted to do something that was like farm

[00:07:36] simmy ish or like that kind of like

[00:07:38] a

[00:07:41] slightly tedious my like you don't have to pay attention to it and I started playing this game called moon stone islands and that's

[00:07:47] Fun too and it has like a Pokemon aspect where you can kind of capture creatures and

[00:07:53] It also is pretty interesting. So that's what I've mostly been doing

[00:07:58] Okay, okay, cool in my girly life

[00:08:03] Cool Greg what what where you've been fucking with yeah, so I also you know finished on trail and

[00:08:10] did some of the post-story stuff but

[00:08:14] Ever since then though, I've been playing almost exclusively with every moment of free time. I'm playing hearthstone. Oh

[00:08:22] Really like not something I'm back on that

[00:08:25] hard

[00:08:27] That's why you said it you thought I slipped back into old habits because you have

[00:08:31] Maybe yeah, could you did wait? No, you mentioned this

[00:08:35] Like when in our group chat at some point I feel like you had mentioned something about hearthstone

[00:08:42] Probably like literally wanted to play

[00:08:46] Nothing wrong with it

[00:08:51] You're not spending it all your money on it. I'm not I

[00:08:56] Spent money on because a new set just came out and what the new set came the battle pass

[00:09:02] So I did buy the battle pass, but like I didn't have to it just gets me things faster

[00:09:08] and with the amount of pain like it's

[00:09:11] well, I'm playing I should say a

[00:09:14] Couple games that you and I were playing a lot lately

[00:09:17] I've been thinking about hell divers too, and I've been thinking about wildlands

[00:09:21] Like wild dance. I still have it installed. Oh, I'll get back into that anytime

[00:09:26] Hell drivers who needs to get its shit together. Yeah, I've been before I go back. Yeah

[00:09:33] Sounds like people are kind of starting to revolt a bit. It's just because I mean this is

[00:09:37] This is this is a topic for could be a top roll whole episode. It's the devs have gone very

[00:09:44] anti-fun in the way where it's like

[00:09:49] People aren't playing the way they want them to play

[00:09:53] So they're

[00:09:54] Nerfing things in a way to try to pigeonhole into player for to like players into playing that specific way

[00:10:00] They want them to play oh

[00:10:02] And then players are like just it's it's not even like it's not even like a PvP game like

[00:10:09] Like stop being so aggressive with like the like the balancing stuff just let people you know mess around and have fun

[00:10:15] Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, so that's once they get their their shit together

[00:10:20] And it seems like it seems like they got the message loud and clear but

[00:10:25] They were dropping concurrent like they were dropping players like crazy

[00:10:29] Yeah, I mean, I think they I think they still have like 40k concurrent yeah

[00:10:34] It's so insane, but like they lost like they were

[00:10:38] But there but it's not where they were but yeah, they're still

[00:10:41] and

[00:10:42] Then you know, I mean wildlands has its shit together. So that's why I was there for yeah, it's super good

[00:10:50] I bought I bought judgment on the steam sail, but I don't know what I'll play that

[00:10:55] That's good game. It's a good ass game

[00:10:57] But I honestly I feel like I'll be playing Hearthstone continuously until probably what's the next thing that's coming out

[00:11:05] Whatever it is that I suggest to you. Oh, okay. No, you got you got games coming up not not counting that

[00:11:11] I think I'll probably be playing

[00:11:13] I'll probably be playing

[00:11:17] Hearthstone right up until Space Marine. That's the next one coming. I think

[00:11:21] Okay, okay. I

[00:11:23] Have been playing something that I think that you should play that's not on my recommend

[00:11:27] Like like my list of selling games

[00:11:31] Hellblade 2 is something else man

[00:11:35] You're saying

[00:11:36] Yeah, it's for those who haven't played hellblade 1

[00:11:40] It's a lot more of the same with hellblade 1 but it's just like

[00:11:46] It's got a polish on it like

[00:11:50] It's it's one of the best-looking games and best acted games

[00:11:54] I've seen in a while like it's it's up there with like in terms of like the

[00:12:01] Fidelity of the graphics and shit. It's it's up there with Alan Wake 2 for sure it is

[00:12:08] Absolutely a stunning looking game, but it's like

[00:12:11] Kind of heavy like I can I I'll play it for like an hour or two and then I'm like

[00:12:17] All right, that's that's enough of that like I was I was feeling like

[00:12:23] Clostrophobic at points like legitimately claustrophobic

[00:12:27] Because I have claustrophobia and there's plenty of warnings trigger warnings up front for this game

[00:12:33] Like it tells you like hey, there's gonna be a lot of this this this this this this like drowning

[00:12:40] like

[00:12:42] infant abuse like there's like just a

[00:12:46] Laundry list of triggers that they're like. Yeah, so all this stuff if you're still cool

[00:12:52] Come on in

[00:12:54] After you already bought it. That's like can you imagine you spent that much money early?

[00:12:59] You got the game and then it's like so

[00:13:03] This thing this really specific thing that terrifies you and actually fucks with your brain

[00:13:09] Yeah, if you're okay, we're gonna abuse an infant

[00:13:13] Hope you're cool. I don't know thanks for your money though

[00:13:16] I don't well. I haven't seen any infant abuse. I seen I see a dead baby. Maybe that's what it was

[00:13:22] Literally like

[00:13:26] Infant abuse, but I did see a dead baby

[00:13:28] Seen a dead baby. There was at least one dead baby at least one

[00:13:33] Get brutally killed

[00:13:35] You know what doesn't count it was just kind of like a corpse was shriveled up. It was just there

[00:13:41] Yeah, no big deal didn't affect me

[00:13:44] But that claustrophobia thing

[00:13:47] Goddamn that that get under my skin and like there's some there's some drowning stuff too like where she's like

[00:13:54] Being trapped under like it both double whammy. It's like confined space

[00:14:00] Confined space drowning and I was like, oh my god

[00:14:03] There's like in Mars like when you hear it like when we go like cave diving and then the kid and then they don't time it

[00:14:09] Out right in the cave fills up a water like that kind of situation. Yeah, it was

[00:14:12] Well that happened once and then there was like a thing where she was stuck underneath like a boat

[00:14:17] That was like on the shoreline

[00:14:19] Like the tide came in and she was trying to like crawl her way out of it

[00:14:23] It's brutal man. And like the fights are heavy like they they hit so hard and it's kind of like

[00:14:31] The majority what I've seen so far up until this most recent point

[00:14:35] Everything is mostly like one-on-one and you really need to like time attacks and like look for openings

[00:14:42] look for chances to block or like

[00:14:46] Dodge and yeah, it's just like it's hard hitting and I love it. I love it so much

[00:14:51] And yeah, it's just it's visually striking like some of the shit in that game is just some some stuff is downright terrifying

[00:14:58] Like the first giant that you see

[00:15:02] Nope like that one on the beach in that trailer

[00:15:06] Nope not that one. Hmm. There's another one

[00:15:10] I haven't seen that one yet

[00:15:12] But I think that's the next that's the next thing that I have to go to do

[00:15:15] Oh he gone today, but it's really good. It's a it's a fantastic game other than that

[00:15:21] I've played a bunch of retro stuff recently like

[00:15:25] You ever play that Dungeons and Dragons arcade game

[00:15:30] No, I'm aware of it

[00:15:32] But I've never kind of like golden axe ish

[00:15:34] But it's wild for an arcade game because it's got like a lot of RPG elements and stuff

[00:15:40] Like you can pick up like new equipment and like

[00:15:42] You have like a whole skill set for each class and stuff like for something that came out like in the

[00:15:48] 90s and in the arcade it's pretty cool and like pretty fun to play him in co-op

[00:15:55] I played it a friend of mine was visiting

[00:15:58] For a bit and him and I and Dallow we threw it on we finished it in the night. Oh and I recently

[00:16:07] Finished a game called avatar. I

[00:16:10] Never heard of this game until like neither. Yeah, I'm not hurting bad. It's it's like

[00:16:18] It's a like a 2d

[00:16:20] Sort of like Castlevania like old Castlevania. It's not a Metroidvania. It's like old Castlevania meets like

[00:16:28] kind of you know

[00:16:30] Not golden axe cuz it's like it's a platform game, but it's really difficult and it has like

[00:16:35] Sega Genesis like aesthetic and sound it is really good

[00:16:40] But holy Christ was that game tough and it was funny because I

[00:16:47] Threw it on because I was like this like there's no way that this game is gonna be very long and

[00:16:52] The mindset was that the three of us were gonna beat it that night like yep

[00:16:56] this is in the bag we can get this done tonight. This is in the bag and

[00:17:04] Nope, that's not what happened at all what ended up happening was we found out

[00:17:11] That

[00:17:12] You couldn't save

[00:17:14] Beat it straight through

[00:17:18] so it got to a point where I was like very very difficult and

[00:17:25] Dollar was like dude, I gotta I gotta go home like it's so late now and like

[00:17:29] I think we were at like the fifth world and I was like there's probably six so

[00:17:38] My buddy and I we were like, okay. Well, we'll just continue playing after you go

[00:17:42] And I looked it up and it's like oh shit. There's fucking eight worlds. All right. Oh

[00:17:47] and we beat it and

[00:17:50] Then after we beat it we realized

[00:17:52] It does in fact save

[00:17:55] What?

[00:17:57] How did you fuck it up for that long? How did why did you think I don't know? I I

[00:18:02] Couldn't tell you I don't know why because I read somewhere that it does not save and then Dallow clarified

[00:18:09] He was like yeah, it doesn't say and I was like, yeah, I guess this is just like a one-shot kind of thing

[00:18:16] Yeah

[00:18:17] Yeah

[00:18:19] Really good and I did also

[00:18:22] Finally beat stellar blade, which is great good guys. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Yeah, so that's

[00:18:30] There you go. We're all caught up

[00:18:32] Brain is a very

[00:18:40] Are you watching a breakdown on anime reacts?

[00:18:45] No, no, I like I got like this notification on my iPad that

[00:18:52] This VGC like Pokemon VGC player

[00:18:55] Posted a new video and it has to do with what the brain?

[00:19:00] No, it's James back. He's

[00:19:05] Speaking of brains

[00:19:09] It's time to be it's time to use all of our brains

[00:19:14] together and

[00:19:16] Let's uh, let's sell each other some games shall we? Okay

[00:19:20] Now today's episode is a is an idea that was pitched to me by my homeboy Greg

[00:19:29] Greg why don't you explain and set up what what we're gonna be doing here today?

[00:19:35] so

[00:19:37] We all have games we love and

[00:19:40] We all often tell each other hey you should play this optima by nah

[00:19:46] So today will be the opportunity for us to like car salesman or just general sales people in like retail

[00:19:54] sell each other on

[00:19:56] Playing one of these games that we love or that we think the other person will love

[00:20:02] Yeah

[00:20:04] Yeah, it's a good idea. We're basically all going to be working at GameStop today. No, no, I worked at GameStop

[00:20:11] No actual telling happens there

[00:20:14] What we're gonna be is we're gonna be the annoying neck beard who comes into GameStop and wants to work there

[00:20:21] And so they talk to all the others and ours feeling hey, hey you should try this game because

[00:20:28] Yeah

[00:20:31] We've all been there right yeah, I feel like I'm gonna devolve into just going

[00:20:37] So we're gonna lose track of everything I've been saying you have your envelope you have your mail I

[00:20:47] Just wrote the games names down so I don't have any you know what though. I am I am

[00:20:54] This is a proud moment for me you've come prepared. This is the most prepared that you've ever

[00:21:02] You last night I

[00:21:05] Think Greg, I don't know if you post it in the chat or like when the three of us are talking you said something

[00:21:11] Along the lines of like be ready like to us and then today

[00:21:16] I got up and Jerry had like a freaking paragraph written in the chat saying how he's been like preparing and thinking about this for like

[00:21:23] 48 hours and I just was like

[00:21:28] You don't want to get caught with it having not done your homework at all at all. And so I

[00:21:34] strategically took a nap

[00:21:37] because I

[00:21:38] and I

[00:21:41] Had a couple ideas comes to me in a dream because I dreamed about what the answers are gonna be I was that like

[00:21:48] You woke up like in your throws just like oh, oh god

[00:21:52] Oh, I gotta write these down and then you just grabbed the first thing that was next to you and that was a

[00:22:01] And I wrote I wrote down some things and on top of that hey if you don't like my

[00:22:08] Personal pitches I got a little a little extra for the ends

[00:22:13] Okay, okay. I yeah, I have taken consideration into this on a few levels

[00:22:21] As soon as Greg as soon as you mentioned this idea I was like I like this. I mean, I'm a salesman

[00:22:29] By trade and I guess so are you to agree

[00:22:34] So to a degree this absolutely him so this was this was definitely as I say ding in my dong

[00:22:40] This is right up my alley and buddy. I'm always happy to dig your dog

[00:22:46] Anytime

[00:22:50] Be here together no stay

[00:22:54] I

[00:22:55] Want you to see

[00:23:02] You can hide behind that Pikachu pillow, but you can still hear oh that's upsetting that both are

[00:23:10] Yeah, it was

[00:23:12] It was definitely something that piqued my interest and I thought about it. And I was like, you know

[00:23:19] If I'm gonna convince you to play something

[00:23:22] There's no way no chance

[00:23:25] Especially not Beth that you're going to pay money

[00:23:28] For something that I suggest I've been trying to get you to play a few things over the course of a few years and

[00:23:37] Oftentimes I've told you how to get them for free. And I've also offered to buy them for you

[00:23:43] Whether it's old retro games or new stuff

[00:23:47] Quick question. Who did you find it? I want it. I want every this is a fun look

[00:23:52] Who did you find it more stressful trying to think of games for me or Greg?

[00:23:57] It was you okay

[00:24:00] interesting

[00:24:01] Greg who do you think I?

[00:24:04] Didn't have

[00:24:06] Stress because it was more so like it wasn't games that I thought you would like with I was saying was like not

[00:24:10] These are games. I know I want them to play but I it took me longer for Jerry

[00:24:16] Okay, and I found Greg

[00:24:19] the most

[00:24:20] So nice little we got a unholy trinity happening

[00:24:26] Yeah, I was like pacing Remy who is Greg?

[00:24:31] I'm hard to read yeah

[00:24:38] So random because the things that things I like are unpredictable. They are they make no sense

[00:24:44] Which is amazing because I think some of the things that I'm gonna suggest for you

[00:24:51] Or that well see here's the thing. I wrote down a couple of different things for each of you and

[00:24:59] I'm gonna go with like one major pick and if that doesn't work, I'll be like well you could try this

[00:25:06] Yeah, three for each of you, but I also have like there's one that it's just like

[00:25:14] An obvious one I've got one each

[00:25:17] Okay

[00:25:19] Greg is confident

[00:25:22] Attracts again, it's again. It's it's not things I I approach it not as things

[00:25:26] I thought you would like but as things I want you to play

[00:25:30] See I wanted to appeal to what you might enjoy

[00:25:34] That's not to say I don't think you won't enjoy these games. I

[00:25:38] Want you to play them because I feel like you'll enjoy them

[00:25:39] Hmm. Okay now, how should we decide who goes first Jerry you go first? All right

[00:25:47] Kick kicking it right off. Wait, should we do

[00:25:53] It like Jerry sells one like we're doing one each or Jerry does all of his stuff

[00:25:59] We'll do we'll go we'll do with our names right best Jerry Greg Beth

[00:26:04] Okay

[00:26:07] All right, so I guess I'll go first

[00:26:11] All right, and then to Jerry who's uh

[00:26:15] Who you approaching

[00:26:17] Who you cold calling?

[00:26:19] I'm gonna call Beth up

[00:26:23] Okay, what do you just step in step in the booth here for seconds come on in come on in I got I talked to you but so

[00:26:31] so

[00:26:33] Beth one thing that I know about you is you do like a quirky game

[00:26:37] Like games that have a little bit of quirk to them. You do like that. I know some of the aesthetics that you tend to like

[00:26:48] One thing that I know that you gravitate to is like a very like

[00:26:52] Clean but cartoony

[00:26:55] aesthetic

[00:26:56] That's that's something that I've come to know about you

[00:26:59] you know like

[00:27:01] Even

[00:27:03] The plucky Squire

[00:27:06] Okay

[00:27:07] Right, that's that's one you like aesthetic. Okay

[00:27:13] Well, you just talked about that sailor moon farm game

[00:27:17] Mm-hmm. Yeah, let's do yeah, I don't know there's a bunch

[00:27:23] There is there's a there's a there's a reason why I've chosen this

[00:27:30] Again, I thought about this ahead of time and I was like whatever I try to get you to buy

[00:27:37] You're not gonna actually buy it. There's no fucking way

[00:27:40] So I was like one thing I do know is you have PlayStation extra

[00:27:45] So I was like if it's on PlayStation extra, there's a lot better chance that you're just gonna go

[00:27:50] Oh, well, I just downloaded no problem

[00:27:52] But I mean even that's a hurdle because I've there's been stuff on PlayStation extra

[00:27:56] Like trials of man that I've been like hey, man, you should definitely check this out. You're like

[00:28:02] Yeah, maybe I played it and hated it and then just I'd not tell you about it

[00:28:08] Did you do that to me?

[00:28:10] What I would you do that to me?

[00:28:13] Would you do that to me on my birthday?

[00:28:15] It's my birthday

[00:28:18] One day it will be

[00:28:22] That's not for ten days my boy

[00:28:26] So the the game that I picked one of the games is

[00:28:32] Tiny-kin

[00:28:35] Okay, this is why I had my iPad so I could look up the stuff

[00:28:38] Have you heard of this? Have you seen this? Have you heard of this?

[00:28:42] Sounds familiar. I'm so it's it's like Pikmin ish

[00:28:49] And it's like the the whole

[00:28:53] Vibin this is like you same thing. You're you're shrunken down, but from what I can recall

[00:29:01] You're in like

[00:29:04] Like household environments

[00:29:07] It does seem to be that way

[00:29:10] hmm

[00:29:11] I've heard nothing but good things about this and that it's a very delightful game to play and it has like a really cool

[00:29:18] Aesthetic is like all the little characters are like these almost like

[00:29:24] Almost paper Mario looking kind of things like they have a really nice aesthetic to them

[00:29:28] But the environments themselves are like fully 3d. I do like the way that the

[00:29:35] Images of the character

[00:29:37] Look against the contrast of the background. I have I have a tough hurdle to overcome though Jerry

[00:29:44] What's that? I don't like Pikmin

[00:29:48] That's fine

[00:29:50] That's fine because I don't think this plays

[00:29:55] Solely like Pikmin. I think there's more to it than just

[00:29:59] Like I don't think you're actually like taking these things mean like throwing them like

[00:30:04] Throwing them out shit

[00:30:05] You're not gonna get any cravings to eat KFC this entire day. That's true

[00:30:10] The hardest part about Pikmin is that get hungry every time

[00:30:14] I think I think there's actually more like

[00:30:20] Platforming maybe like to a degree but not like I don't think it's like precision platforming like it's

[00:30:26] It's more of like just exploring like the level and stuff and then I think I think there's more of a puzzle element to this

[00:30:32] But I will say

[00:30:35] It is

[00:30:37] overwhelmingly positive

[00:30:39] reviews on steam

[00:30:41] And again, I've only heard good things about this and it's something that I've actually wanted to play myself

[00:30:48] recently so

[00:30:50] If you clean it up in three hours, sorry, I'm not supposed to be selling this

[00:30:58] That was another thing I I

[00:31:02] Looked on how long to be to see

[00:31:04] You know, I didn't want to choose something. It's like man. You should check this game out

[00:31:07] It's only 110 hours like minimum

[00:31:11] Like I mean it might

[00:31:12] It might

[00:31:14] But at least with this it's something that you could easily pick up and you know, you can pick it up and play it and

[00:31:22] Wrap it up with a nice bow at the end

[00:31:26] Done so

[00:31:28] Beth

[00:31:30] What do you think?

[00:31:31] I'll give this a try

[00:31:34] strong maybe

[00:31:39] What is it about is it is it just the Pikmin thing?

[00:31:44] Is it the only thing holding you back? No, I I

[00:31:48] Like how the characters look and I do enjoy the contrast but like just looking at the modeling of the world in general

[00:31:55] I kind of don't like

[00:31:58] The little bit all over I kind of wish it was all a little bit more

[00:32:05] Paper Mario looking yeah

[00:32:07] Well actually I think the character and the little creatures look very don't start like you

[00:32:12] So just to take a slice of a steam review here

[00:32:18] I'm working in hearing with this one. Okay brings me back to the n64 era of 3d platforming

[00:32:24] No combat no stress pretty straightforward puzzles with tons of charm

[00:32:29] The art direction and graphics were delightful and ran smoothly on the steam deck

[00:32:33] Which doesn't matter to you lives up to the overwhelmingly positive status deserves a sequel or at least DLC

[00:32:39] so it's it's less of

[00:32:43] Like cuz Pikmin is a lot of like going around

[00:32:47] Collecting your Pikmin and then being like okay fucking fuck that bug up and then like take this wall down. This is more like

[00:32:56] Finding out how to traverse a level

[00:32:59] Using the tiny kin and I think some of them have different like you can stack some some might be electric like there's different

[00:33:07] shit going on

[00:33:10] puzzles

[00:33:20] I can see the vision I can see why looking at it you would think that I

[00:33:31] Could I could like this

[00:33:34] You don't like puzzles

[00:33:35] Not really not I don't like puzzle games particularly do you like puzzles and resin evil games? I

[00:33:43] Like if if I ever enjoy a puzzle it has to be in a game that's like combat heavy

[00:33:51] I don't know what if it was in a game that's platform heavy

[00:33:54] I don't quite like see I don't like platformers much either that are just platformers

[00:34:00] So I'm what again, I'm just on my turn

[00:34:02] Oh

[00:34:04] Greg wants to sell you on this as well go ahead

[00:34:08] I can't turn it off guys. This is my job

[00:34:12] No, what were you gonna say though? Go ahead. I was like I'm watching this game in motion

[00:34:17] Like I'm watching the footage and it feels like neither platformer nor puzzle game

[00:34:22] Like I don't know how to describe what this is. I

[00:34:26] Don't know what the objective of this game is

[00:34:29] I also not super into things that are very

[00:34:33] amorphous

[00:34:34] You're fine, but I wouldn't call it a two see there like I don't I like I

[00:34:38] But you just don't know what it is

[00:34:40] It's it's it's hard to explain. That's the thing and that's just why I'm saying it seems you very much its own thing

[00:34:47] I think I might like it because I find it difficult to explain things when I like them

[00:34:55] No

[00:34:57] No

[00:34:57] All I'm saying is that it's on ps extra

[00:35:01] The least you could do is throw it on and say okay. Well, what is what is this game actually about like what is the thing?

[00:35:08] At the very least throw it on for 15 20 minutes and see what it's all about and you consider that success. I

[00:35:14] Would consider that as

[00:35:16] Massive I don't think any of us are trying to get any get us to like play and finishes games. No, but no

[00:35:23] It's about about starting you like at the very least you could you could buy it and then you can trade it in after and

[00:35:31] Yeah, I don't have to buy it

[00:35:33] There you go. That's what I mean

[00:35:36] I don't even like a buy means install and trade it in means uninstall

[00:35:43] Yeah, so can I get it can I get a commitment that you'll just at least install it and try it?

[00:35:49] That's a it's still maybe man

[00:35:52] It's free. I know but it's like I have to like think about it in a moment

[00:35:57] And I kind of feel like this isn't the kind of be something that I'm ever gonna think about again

[00:36:02] Do you have the ps app on your iPad?

[00:36:05] No, it's only on my phone. I'm using my phone for this

[00:36:11] This is say you could install it remotely right now. You would have to think about it

[00:36:20] I

[00:36:24] Maybe maybe for your birthday G really you do that for me for my birthday

[00:36:37] I would

[00:36:39] Just read okay

[00:36:42] Well, I mean in the in the 10 days to my birthday you probably could have installed this tried it and figured out

[00:36:48] I don't really like doesn't move on and go back to farming or you may even all

[00:36:54] You know you're not working right now. This is only like a six-hour game

[00:37:01] Is it only three hours I mean I watched I didn't watch I saw I saw I watched an entire play through

[00:37:08] I

[00:37:10] Six hours main story six hours main aside eight

[00:37:15] Someone had a someone had a walk through on YouTube and it was three hours long

[00:37:18] So I guess they know how to do all the things cut scenes

[00:37:21] No, there's not maybe just go there's not a duel of the things. Yeah, but

[00:37:27] Yeah, not a long game so

[00:37:30] Tiny kin tiny commitment

[00:37:33] Hey

[00:37:34] Just make taglines for all these please

[00:37:38] So come on just after this after this is over I'll go install it too and then we can both try it out

[00:37:45] I'll install it for you

[00:37:48] I'm actually

[00:37:51] Not at my house. This is not my room

[00:37:55] Yeah, let's talk the same time and we could try it out together because I've never played it either

[00:37:59] And who knows maybe I end up going I don't really like this and you go actually I'm kind of digging it

[00:38:05] We're face first

[00:38:07] Or face first, but we won't know until we try

[00:38:10] So after pot you can throw it on we'll hop on

[00:38:16] Yeah, we could throw it on and try it together

[00:38:22] Okay, depends on okay, maybe like a hard maybe or like a soft maybe that's as bad

[00:38:30] That's as good as you're getting is that maybe I think you're yeah this one. This one is a

[00:38:34] It's a maybe

[00:38:37] Time to move on

[00:38:39] Okay, I

[00:38:40] You know

[00:38:41] Okay now as a as a side little bonus thing Greg. How do you feel about this?

[00:38:47] It's that's not it's not not my cup of tea. I don't think yeah, that's why it's what pick it for you

[00:38:53] I just say it's not my cup of Greg

[00:38:56] This is not my cup of tea

[00:38:57] I think you says not my cup of and then Jerry's like Greg

[00:39:02] It'd be wild for someone to refer to self in

[00:39:07] My cup of Jerry

[00:39:09] I like the way I spaced out for half a second and by that Greg was like my cup of Greg. It's not my cup of Beth

[00:39:19] I mean, I'm saying that as you

[00:39:26] Greg sell somebody on something all right no problem

[00:39:31] The Jerry yeah, I want to

[00:39:36] What do I got to do to put you in the game today?

[00:39:39] You should just pop that shirt off, baby

[00:39:42] Baby

[00:39:44] That's why it's not on cam. No, no, it's on you that oh

[00:39:50] sound of shirt

[00:39:55] I

[00:39:57] Just listen close work it listen to my shirt listen to my shirt

[00:40:03] Yeah sound of shirt so

[00:40:08] Jerry

[00:40:09] Mm-hmm since we started this podcast

[00:40:13] I've been trying to get you to play exactly one game and

[00:40:21] Maybe

[00:40:23] Maybe the entire pitch of this episode was finally I decided enough is enough

[00:40:32] And it's time for the hard sell that's not that's not why I pitched this episode but it came to me

[00:40:38] It came to me in a flash and I was like, of course

[00:40:41] This this is it subconsciously. This has been the reason the whole time exactly

[00:40:47] Jerry, I want you to play goddamn sleeping dogs

[00:40:55] tonight

[00:40:58] Okay

[00:40:59] Let me tell you about this game. Go ahead this game is

[00:41:04] Basically like you're playing through

[00:41:08] Godang John Woo Hong Kong crime thriller

[00:41:13] That takes the best parts of GTA and Yakuza and puts them together into one game

[00:41:18] All right

[00:41:20] First and foremost, I know what's important to you the game is 15 hours long

[00:41:25] Nice and nice and tidy nice and nice and neat. Yeah, I like that

[00:41:30] okay

[00:41:32] Something that I think is very interesting is that

[00:41:36] Even though it's kind of like like an open-world kind of GTA s game

[00:41:42] There is not a lot in the way of

[00:41:45] Gunplay you know, it's this is not a third person shooter. You can get a gun absolutely you can but you can't

[00:41:51] store them on you

[00:41:53] You can store one handgun which you keep in kind of like your waistband, but that's it

[00:41:59] So almost all of your your combat is hand-to-hand or with weapons

[00:42:04] That's it. That's kind of interesting. Yeah, I do like that. Yeah, it's it's it's all hand to hand

[00:42:10] You can keep a gun on you in case things get hairy, but for the most part you're using your fists or you're using weapons

[00:42:18] Side quests not mandatory

[00:42:21] At all you don't have to do them at all

[00:42:23] But if you do like do the odd one here or there like that you'll find some is there any fetch some fun stuff the main

[00:42:30] You can go on like a date with Emma Stone

[00:42:35] You can't actually she voices it. Yeah, she voices a character in that game

[00:42:39] Yeah

[00:42:41] You can go on a date with Emma Stone. Oh

[00:42:44] And you can do some yakuza karaoke if you wanted to do that I'm assuming no

[00:42:48] But you could but it's good you sing on take on me by aha. It's fantastic. It's licensed songs

[00:42:54] the music as well is

[00:42:57] Fucking fantastic

[00:43:00] This game

[00:43:02] Introduced me to like a Brooklyn based funk band that I haven't heard of that is now like one of my favorite artists

[00:43:08] And I first like this the soundtrack is funk. No, no, it's ready. You have radio stations, right?

[00:43:14] and one of the radio stations is more funk base and it and I found out about this

[00:43:18] this

[00:43:20] Brooklyn based funk band which is now like a band that I listen to regularly and

[00:43:26] It's just it's just such

[00:43:28] Great music good vibes of these music that this music

[00:43:34] another point

[00:43:36] This game is visually fucking brutal

[00:43:39] The things that you that you can do it has a whole bunch of like environmental kills

[00:43:43] Like one of the things that I that sticks with me that you can do. There's there's two things

[00:43:50] One is while fighting if you position it right you can jam someone's head and like

[00:43:55] Like an air conditioning vent into the fan and

[00:43:59] That's a gruesome image

[00:44:01] But then another thing you can do is there is you can fight sometimes in like a

[00:44:06] Garage like work work like cars are getting fixed and there's an engine that's elevated above the hood

[00:44:11] You can jam someone into the hood and then hit the switch on the engine

[00:44:15] So it drops on the guy and they fold in half the wrong way

[00:44:20] Oh

[00:44:23] Man I

[00:44:24] Love a good fold in half the wrong the wrong way

[00:44:28] Um, I love that like you're folding hamburger style. That's hamburgers fold not hot dog fold. No not

[00:44:37] Okay, it's not yet exactly right Jerry. You're exactly right. That's a hamburger full

[00:44:48] Romance on the stone brutality

[00:44:50] You're really insane brutality

[00:44:54] The

[00:44:56] Greg I've already installed the game

[00:44:58] That's good. You said Emma Stone. I installed it good fantastic. I'm not done

[00:45:03] He's got 15 to 20 more minutes of material

[00:45:08] Let's see the oh

[00:45:11] I played Final Fantasy with you enough to know that you are really really focused on your look

[00:45:18] This game has so many clothing stores and outfit options that you can just you can create a

[00:45:26] like whatever look you want and

[00:45:29] It's it almost always works or you can make something ridiculous and that's good too

[00:45:33] They have costumes from like all the big Eidos games as well

[00:45:37] So you can dress up as like like Riko from just cause or you can dress up like Asian 47

[00:45:44] Can you dress up as like?

[00:45:48] What's his name Oz I L or whatever from Soul Reaver?

[00:45:53] No, I

[00:45:54] Said I said I'd also they want to mean to say a Square Enix. Oh

[00:45:58] Yeah, yeah

[00:46:01] But yeah, like there's all kinds of licensed costumes. There's costumes that are based on old like

[00:46:07] Like kung fu movies so you have like the like the the the obvious like

[00:46:12] Bruce Lee yellow jumpsuit kind of idea

[00:46:14] But then you also have like

[00:46:16] Like the Thai kick kickboxing like rope gloves and stuff like that, but like again, you don't have to do any of that

[00:46:22] You can just

[00:46:23] Do wherever the fuck you want and your guy always looks good

[00:46:28] Is the story good? The story is phenomenal

[00:46:32] like I

[00:46:33] There are so many like the overall story is is like a straight up like Hong Kong police movie

[00:46:39] from like the like late 90s early 2000s and

[00:46:43] it plays out so well and like there's I

[00:46:48] Don't want to I don't want to spoil it, but there's like some

[00:46:52] big like like set piece like events that are fantastic and usually ends with you like running from like

[00:47:01] room to room

[00:47:02] kicking the shit out of a bunch of people going to the next room kind of you actually kind of do that in

[00:47:07] Yakuza sometimes, you know like when you

[00:47:09] You know like thinking like like yakuza zero when you're like when you have to like invade the

[00:47:14] Yeah, like yeah, yeah, like like that then you end up fighting tigers at the end. Yes

[00:47:19] Yeah, basically except without tiger. It says it it doesn't reach the peaks of insanity that

[00:47:26] Fine because yeah, like I mean that's fine

[00:47:28] I mean I come to expect that from a yakuza game. Yeah, but that's I don't need it in every game

[00:47:34] mm-hmm

[00:47:37] there's

[00:47:38] There's one event in the game that involves you wearing a

[00:47:44] A white suit and by the end of this event

[00:47:48] The white suit is just like covered in blood and then anytime you put on the white suit after that

[00:47:54] It's cover covered in blood. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah, it's it's covered in blood

[00:48:01] It features like

[00:48:04] Every like so many like big-name Chinese movie stars like doing their voice work like you have the main guy Jackie Chan

[00:48:13] He passed unfortunately, but not away not away

[00:48:22] Yeah

[00:48:30] Yeah, you guys

[00:48:30] Guys he is dead no

[00:48:32] He passed on on this one, but like the main guy

[00:48:36] He has a really recognizable voice. I think he was in the

[00:48:40] X-men origins Wolverine like the second one not the not not origins Wolverine

[00:48:44] I don't know whatever the second one was that took place over in the Wolverine. Yeah, he was in

[00:48:49] Based on his voice. I know he's in that movie

[00:48:52] Robin shoe is in the game. You would know him as Luke Kang in the Mortal Kombat movie. Oh

[00:48:57] No way

[00:49:00] Kelly Hughes in the game she played Lady Death Strike and X-men 2

[00:49:05] What about what about the chick that plays Chun Lee in the Street Fighter movie?

[00:49:12] Ming now I think she is in the game actually hold on really Ming now when let me I'll do some quick research right now for you

[00:49:19] Ming I don't see her in the behind-the-voice actors. Do you see Emma Stone? No, she was not

[00:49:29] Emma Stone is it was Amanda. Yeah, she plays Amanda

[00:49:34] The so like because it's an open world game

[00:49:37] There is something like collectible stuff for upgrades, but it's never like

[00:49:41] Super out of the way

[00:49:42] Like to upgrade your combat style

[00:49:45] You have to find these like statues that match up with the Chinese zodiac

[00:49:48] But so many of them are just kind of on the path of the main quest that you'll run into

[00:49:52] That you don't have to go out of your way too much

[00:49:55] Even when they're explore. What's that?

[00:49:58] Is it fun to explore like it absolutely it absolutely is because they made a one-to-one of Hong Kong essentially

[00:50:04] What of all of Kowloon? I'm pretty sure but yeah, it's it's a very very good

[00:50:12] representation of Hong Kong and they do this this thing where

[00:50:16] They do Hong Kong at night and especially after it rains you get like the slight reflection of lights on off the moist pavement

[00:50:23] And it looks fantastic even today. It looks fucking fantastic

[00:50:28] So you put that on you on your on your big TV?

[00:50:32] Can't imagine how good it looks

[00:50:34] I'm excited to throw this on yeah, I definitely

[00:50:39] Yeah, there's I mean you've never sold me on this harder

[00:50:44] But it's definitely

[00:50:46] This is something for me and then let me tell you it has

[00:50:50] Any to any way you get the game now. It's probably give me definitive edition which comes with the two DLCs already have it

[00:50:56] Yeah, I know I'm saying I'm saying so you already have the two DLCs is what I'm saying the first DLC

[00:51:01] the first DLC it's it's like

[00:51:04] it has it's like what if this if Hong Kong got invaded by ghosts and

[00:51:09] There's a bunch of ghosts and like those like hopping Chinese vampires and stuff like that and

[00:51:15] Like what yeah, and you have to use your kung fu on them and then banish them and and stuff like that

[00:51:22] and

[00:51:22] then the other one is just a

[00:51:27] Like a carbon copy of entered the dragon with a full 70s soundtrack and aesthetic and it's like a tournament and

[00:51:36] It's amazing. I've been saying that

[00:51:42] He's like I know I know Greg why have you never really stepped up to the plate and told me I mean

[00:51:49] Yeah, I'm really times you should play the game. I know I got a side like this

[00:51:55] Anyway, all this to say Jerry

[00:51:57] It is in my top 10 favorite games of all time for a reason

[00:52:03] Okay

[00:52:04] All right, it's it is it's time. It's time that I played this it is and because I know I know how you are

[00:52:11] If you play this game, I will watch you play it. I'll watch you play every second of this game

[00:52:14] You guys are gonna do that tonight after this podcast

[00:52:18] After we try tiny kin. No, I'm going to sleep

[00:52:24] I don't believe you

[00:52:28] You know what I forgot to ask you I forgot to ask if you wanted to buy the if you want to throw the warranty on

[00:52:33] The tiny kin for $5

[00:52:36] You really failed that

[00:52:39] It's just fun. I just didn't get it anyways, right that solves that problem

[00:52:46] Greg where you pushy about the warranty at?

[00:52:49] Game stop I wasn't pushy but I made people think it was a good idea

[00:52:53] Which is a lie?

[00:52:57] I've seen a used to go instincts coming back

[00:53:00] like

[00:53:03] On on a game. It's on a game. It's almost useless

[00:53:05] But if you're buying like a pre-owned console, I would really push for it. Yeah, that's fair

[00:53:12] I wouldn't yeah, that was the one time that it's actually worth it. Yeah

[00:53:18] My my warranty numbers were pretty

[00:53:23] That's great. I am so bad at selling people things that um

[00:53:27] I guess I'm bad

[00:53:29] But I'm good in a sneaky way because people would try when I worked at a clothing store

[00:53:34] Like I hate selling people and stuff. You don't want you know one like that's your

[00:53:38] Pirogid but when I worked at a clothing store and I worked in the change rooms

[00:53:44] I

[00:53:45] Would just tell people that stuff is on sale online

[00:53:48] Oh, I'm gonna be like I used to I used to peep on people and be like it looks good

[00:53:51] No, people come out and be like maybe like this

[00:53:54] They're really like a shirt or pants or whatever it is they were wearing and

[00:53:59] If I knew what was on sale on the store and so I like they were really into it

[00:54:04] I was like 30% off online

[00:54:08] Go just order it online. I'm like you can go to the counter ask them to order it online for you

[00:54:15] Well, sounds like you were

[00:54:18] Okay at selling clothes, but let's see how you do at selling video games

[00:54:23] Who you pick in the cell to first?

[00:54:25] Jerry, I'll pick I'll pick you to sell to

[00:54:30] Um start off with a easy one one that's kind of

[00:54:36] Obvious maybe work up to something a little more exciting

[00:54:40] first off

[00:55:06] To the

[00:55:08] It tails of the abyss play tails of the abyss play tails of the abyss. It's the best tales game you like jrpgs

[00:55:16] you

[00:55:18] You know have access to it

[00:55:21] Through other means you you know, you've got a way to play this

[00:55:27] It's just it's the best one

[00:55:31] It's the best one that

[00:55:33] Random man on that last podcast I watched and we were both in the comments. He also said something with tails of the abyss

[00:55:40] I don't remember

[00:55:48] This is best selling

[00:55:57] Tactics

[00:55:57] Well, you can't be anymore on hinge than when you were talking about Lydia or when I asked you to describe why you hated Jill and

[00:56:06] Tifa at the same time

[00:56:11] You came on

[00:56:15] But I once again just I tails of the abyss

[00:56:20] I wrote Jerry tails of the abyss

[00:56:24] On my

[00:56:25] I I just think that

[00:56:30] You what is it what is it about tails of the abyss?

[00:56:35] Good question Greg um

[00:56:39] It's okay Jerry's likes jrpgs and he's played other you've played a few tales games

[00:56:50] and

[00:56:51] The combat is pretty samey across all of them

[00:56:56] I think that you know they've done some each game has its own little

[00:57:00] Work to it, but it's mostly the same thing. You know you have your tack you have your arts whatever

[00:57:08] abyss

[00:57:10] has

[00:57:12] my favorite character arc in any piece of media ever

[00:57:20] and I

[00:57:22] like

[00:57:23] Not to oversell it, but I just

[00:57:27] Look that his loop like the main character like his

[00:57:31] The narrative that he was on his journey that he goes on is

[00:57:35] so

[00:57:36] good and

[00:57:38] like

[00:57:40] I'm not kidding you like it was

[00:57:43] one of the few times in my life that

[00:57:46] after I played it I

[00:57:50] I

[00:57:50] Like I was crying so hard

[00:57:53] I left my room to find one of my parents so they would hug me

[00:57:57] So like and I'm like, you know, I was like 12 so I was a child

[00:58:03] So probably you don't need to be held afterwards

[00:58:07] But like it really don't know that I don't I should be fair. I don't know that but I think it's like it's

[00:58:13] Luke story is very impactful. I think all of the characters are good. There's I

[00:58:18] think each of them have like very compelling individual stories and personalities that are very unique and

[00:58:24] I really think that you, you know, there's a couple you love and connect with and the story is

[00:58:32] Fantastic I love the way that the

[00:58:37] Best out of the tale series best dungeon like final boss dungeon. It doesn't feel like it's fucking too long or

[00:58:44] Very basic and simple. It's well designed

[00:58:48] cohesive

[00:58:49] The fights there are impactful. They matter to the characters and on top of all of that a

[00:58:57] very like core focus of the

[00:59:01] Experience is on like is in a lot of ways about music

[00:59:06] There's the main kind of like

[00:59:09] One of like the main driving forces sir at the game as you're trying to like create this thing called the

[00:59:14] Grandphone a Kim so you're trying to find all these pieces of this like master like

[00:59:18] This one long piece of music and then at the end of the game when you

[00:59:23] Fight the final boss fight

[00:59:26] One of the characters like sings the whole thing after you've spent the whole game trying to like get each of the pieces

[00:59:32] And it's spoilers

[00:59:35] Not really you don't know anything about it, but it's really it's like

[00:59:38] Yeah

[00:59:39] Great game good stuff. So here's something that's working in your favor that I just looked up

[00:59:46] It's not terribly long. No tales. He's tales games are only like 30 ish

[00:59:53] 30 to 40 hours, and they're not long manageable. I mean shit some fucking

[00:59:59] action adventure games like I don't know like

[01:00:05] Horizon yeah can be like the same length, but yeah, I don't know

[01:00:09] I feel like I get more sometimes out of an RPG

[01:00:13] Yeah, it's spending that amount of time with it tales games don't really tend to be too long and also tales of the abyss

[01:00:22] Actively hide side quests from you so you're not gonna find them

[01:00:26] So you don't have to worry about side quests. You won't know that they exist

[01:00:32] I like

[01:00:34] There as far as Jerry unless you

[01:00:38] Legitimately go out of your way. You will not find them

[01:00:43] so you don't

[01:00:46] It is fully like a complete story all the way through there is no

[01:00:51] Like NPCs with exclamation points or anything above their head or random people being like

[01:00:58] Oh, I feel like there's someone around here who needs help like in a rock like none of that

[01:01:02] It's just the story

[01:01:04] So here's the thing I do have this game

[01:01:07] Yeah, because I have that ps2. That's all beefed up. I would say play the third yes version

[01:01:14] If you can get the 3ds version get

[01:01:18] Really yeah, because okay here's the quality of life stuff

[01:01:23] One the one

[01:01:26] One negative I'd have to say for you

[01:01:28] Just I think that would cause you to kind of be like

[01:01:31] is that in the ps2 version they still had the lanes like the lines so you had to

[01:01:39] Unlock an ability called free run and then equipped it and then

[01:01:44] And I don't run to be fair. I don't remember when you unlock it, but it is

[01:01:49] Like not right away

[01:01:51] So you are having to do that kind of just like run across in like one line like you did in symphony

[01:01:56] but in the 3ds version you have that ability still have to go into your abilities and

[01:02:03] Toggle it on but you get it right away, and it's free

[01:02:06] Is it better to have it on because I kind of I do like the 2d

[01:02:11] Well, I guess you know what whichever one you prefer is fine

[01:02:15] You can try but at least with the 3ds version you'd have the option to

[01:02:22] Have the free run from the beginning if you prefer it

[01:02:26] so

[01:02:28] I would say

[01:02:30] And I think there's a couple other little little tiny quality of life things that are a bit better with the 3ds

[01:02:35] I think it's just like

[01:02:36] No, I guess depending on where you're playing probably doesn't fucking matter this

[01:02:40] It's the smoothness or the loading times

[01:02:44] I can maybe I'll play it on 3ds

[01:02:48] Playing on a big screen, you know

[01:02:50] You've had the perfect you have the perfect way to do it Jerry if you could play it on

[01:02:55] I don't know your computer somehow with something like a 3ds

[01:03:00] Emulator, I think that might I mean I have a 3ds. Yeah, I have it on my 3ds

[01:03:05] Oh

[01:03:06] It's like the only game I've kept a physical copy up is my it's I have I have it on my 3ds and it's on my ps2

[01:03:15] Yeah, and it's

[01:03:17] And it's also I think I genuinely think you would enjoy it. It's also

[01:03:23] Kind of like a game I truly love it's probably my favorite game. I've ever played I

[01:03:29] Will check

[01:03:30] To see which like what the actual quality of life stuff is if it's worth playing 3ds over the ps2

[01:03:38] Because I do like playing it like I do enjoy here's the thing

[01:03:43] Here's a weird thing about me with RPGs

[01:03:45] I

[01:03:46] Really enjoy playing an RPG if I could take it handheld like if I could just be like

[01:03:51] I'm gonna go to bed a little earlier tonight, but I'm gonna sit in bed and play an RPG for hours

[01:03:57] Like when I wake up in the morning, I'm just gonna lay in bed and play an RPG

[01:04:01] Like something about being able to take RPGs with me wherever the fuck I go is kind of nice

[01:04:07] So if I could play it on

[01:04:10] 3ds and the quality of life stuff is for the better like

[01:04:18] I

[01:04:18] Do it that way if not then my ps2 is hooked up

[01:04:22] I have that thing

[01:04:25] Yeah, pimped out if you will

[01:04:28] I played

[01:04:34] Original so I played it. I I got a copy from

[01:04:39] Irving rented a copy from Irving

[01:04:41] played it on my ps2 all the way back in the day and

[01:04:47] I became in I fell in love with it

[01:04:50] and then I

[01:04:52] Once when they stopped selling or renting out games at that Irving

[01:04:56] I went and bought that copy so that like and I had played I played it like five or six more times on my ps2

[01:05:03] And then when they like put it on the 3ds. I bought and played it on the 3ds like three more times so I

[01:05:10] To be completely fair I

[01:05:14] Genuinely don't remember much else beyond the free run aspect of how that I'm having on the 3ds and that being why I liked

[01:05:23] Playing the 3ds version a little bit more I

[01:05:28] Cuz it's been a long time and it all blends together. I played it so much in a very condensed period of time

[01:05:38] But I

[01:05:39] Just think that like what they do with and they

[01:05:42] to make a main character who comes off

[01:05:47] intentionally as a complete and totaled

[01:05:50] Complete and total self-absorbed self-centered asshole for the first like

[01:05:57] Third of your game is such an amazing choice to have it pay off the way it does I just I

[01:06:06] Wish they like were more bold

[01:06:09] I want I will I will play your game

[01:06:12] amazing

[01:06:14] I'm done

[01:06:17] The shaking the shaking of paperwork. So yes, I will play your game. I don't know when I

[01:06:24] need to take a little break from long-ass games because

[01:06:28] I'm I'm playing a few

[01:06:30] Shorter things now and then also like some retro stuff on the side and then I am gonna play erd tree

[01:06:35] I have erd tree that's gonna be like 40 hours. So it might not be until like

[01:06:41] Holiday time, but it's on the list. It's it's definitely on the list. You've definitely

[01:06:48] You've you've talked about this enough

[01:06:49] I feel I feel a little targeted here because like both of you guys are just

[01:06:53] You're like picking like your all-time favorite games and you're like we've been telling you to play these for so

[01:06:59] I feel like this is like a fucking intervention

[01:07:02] No, I don't if we ever did an intervention it definitely be for the other problem you have

[01:07:10] Sure fine the beats thing right not the not the not the secret third thing

[01:07:20] So I guess it's back to me back to you back to you Jerry back to me Jerry now you guys have the final boss

[01:07:29] I think we sure do yeah, I'm so honest. I like no idea for Greg

[01:07:35] All right, let me let me let me roll my sleeves up here

[01:07:40] I'm challenging because like you don't like you think that you know what I like and then I'll come by and say hey

[01:07:46] I watch all of Jojo's

[01:07:48] Yeah, I know and then you'll be like hey, do you want to watch another anime and I'll be like no

[01:07:54] No, I've never liked an anime in my life. So we like

[01:08:03] Greg I

[01:08:04] Had a hard time, but then for some reason I got a bunch of ideas for you

[01:08:12] Matter of fact, I'll tell you the ones that I had picked out that aren't the main one first

[01:08:20] I dabbled in my head for a second Greg you like a Mega Man game. Don't you?

[01:08:26] Yeah, I've played from time to time

[01:08:28] yeah

[01:08:30] Mega Man 11 is on PlayStation extra

[01:08:33] And that's a really good Mega Man. It's kind of different

[01:08:36] But it's really good, but then I was like I don't think Greg likes Mega Man enough to throw that on

[01:08:43] Right you are Jerry. There you go

[01:08:47] And now I thought about into the breach

[01:08:50] Which is a really really cool game. It's like a

[01:08:56] How do I explain this if you ever played FTL faster than light yes, it's by them and it's like a

[01:09:03] bite-sized

[01:09:05] strategy game that's almost

[01:09:07] Like up it's like fucking play in a game of chess in a way like you have these Macs

[01:09:12] You can only move them so much like it's it's like bite-sized strategy levels

[01:09:16] But it's very very difficult

[01:09:19] I

[01:09:21] Don't typically like these kinds of games, but I was very much into what I play to this game

[01:09:27] I own I own this game

[01:09:29] The thing that held me back from this one is that it isn't free

[01:09:34] Unless I had I'm so unless I'm subscribed to Netflix apparently

[01:09:37] What?

[01:09:38] That's a game. I can play through Netflix

[01:09:42] All right

[01:09:44] But yeah, the thing that was kind of holding me back from that one was the fact that it isn't on a

[01:09:50] Service that I knew that you had

[01:09:54] And then the other thing was ghost runner

[01:09:57] We were talking about this the other night and I was like

[01:10:01] Greg likes first-person games

[01:10:04] You do like a challenge. I don't I don't know if you like a

[01:10:10] Game like Celeste

[01:10:12] Which now at this point I know you don't really like

[01:10:17] True, but I feel like I feel like you would like ghost runner

[01:10:22] But there was something that was kind of holding me back and I was like

[01:10:26] You know, I don't know I

[01:10:29] Don't know about ghosts right and it honestly it really came down between ghost runner and

[01:10:35] My pick and my pick for you

[01:10:41] And this was like, you know what I'm gonna try it

[01:10:45] I feel like I'm kind of going out on on a whim

[01:10:48] But it was it was exactly like you said I do like sometimes it's hard to tell what you will like

[01:10:53] Then sometimes you'll throw something and be like oh this game is fantastic

[01:10:57] And I'll be like what you like this. All right cool. I think

[01:11:05] You should at least at the least if Beth's not gonna at least entertain the idea of even downloading and trying

[01:11:13] Fucking tiny can for my amusement

[01:11:18] Greg I've played the first level of this game and it is fantastic. I

[01:11:24] Urge you to at least download and try tear down

[01:11:30] Tear down a well Jerry. I've never been heard of it. Tell me more really

[01:11:36] Really? Okay, I don't know what this is at all. Greg

[01:11:40] This this goes pretty fucking deep for a second here. Let me get a little deep

[01:11:46] So I recently

[01:11:48] Started getting into tic-tac a lot more

[01:11:50] No boy, you're losing me. You're losing me. No, no, that's not that's not the that's not the the emphasis is not on tic-tac

[01:11:57] The fact is as

[01:11:59] I was you know getting into tic-tac more and then I was like Beth

[01:12:02] Oh my god, let's let's friend each other and let's send us some stuff. I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot

[01:12:07] So here's a little self-promotion. There's a super ghost tic-tac completely forgot that we have a tic-tac

[01:12:14] One of the tic-tacs up there is you talking about red faction

[01:12:18] Hmm true and how much you love destructible environments and you said and I quote

[01:12:24] Give me a destructible environment and I am in my right place

[01:12:34] That's a quote I said it was along I'm paraphrasing it was okay

[01:12:38] It was along those you basically said

[01:12:41] Along those lines give me destructible environments and I'm all in

[01:12:46] Okay, I'm paraphrasing something along those lines. I know I'm not on trial, but I feel like I'd be

[01:12:53] So

[01:12:55] Hold it

[01:12:56] Oh

[01:12:58] So in tear down tear down is a first-person game where you are given an objective and

[01:13:07] The objective might be simple. It might be it's it might start off get the truck

[01:13:13] through the gate

[01:13:15] Okay, simple enough get the trucks for the gate

[01:13:19] Then it's like oh by the way

[01:13:22] We need you to get inside that building and get the briefcase

[01:13:27] So then you're like, okay. How do I do this?

[01:13:32] The thing of a tear down is any fucking way you can think of

[01:13:36] You can do it and

[01:13:39] There's only a certain amount of parameters in the objective that are like it and it goes as far as

[01:13:46] Sometimes it'll be like hey you got to get the briefcase out of here, but don't let it get rained on and

[01:13:52] You'll be like hmm. Okay getting the briefcase. I can just drive this truck through the fucking wall destroy the whole building

[01:13:59] But then getting it outside without it getting wet

[01:14:01] How am I gonna do that and you it's like a every level is like a little sandbox and it's it's a voxel game

[01:14:07] Like it has it's like a voxel style

[01:14:10] But the amount of ways that you can complete a level it's totally up to you how you do it

[01:14:16] and

[01:14:17] it's got like

[01:14:20] It's not intentionally funny, but it can be and like the same way that

[01:14:26] When we play wildlands, it's not intentionally funny, but it can be hmm

[01:14:31] It can be as funny as you want it to be

[01:14:35] or

[01:14:36] Sometimes it's actually very challenging like you get into a level and it's like fuck out like I keep fucking this up

[01:14:43] like I got to think outside the box here like I gotta figure out a different way and

[01:14:48] I I just truly believe with a few things combined here like the fact that I just

[01:14:54] Kind of rediscovered the fact that you really like a fully and I mean fully destructible environment

[01:15:02] Everything can be destroyed in in some capacity

[01:15:07] on top of the fact that like

[01:15:08] You're kind of given the tools to do things how you want and I feel like that might actually speak to you

[01:15:18] So Greg

[01:15:21] I'm begging you

[01:15:23] Please at least install this game on PlayStation and give it a whirl

[01:15:29] Is it part of is a part of extra? It is

[01:15:34] Okay, two things

[01:15:37] I

[01:15:38] Number one. Yeah, when you're selling something

[01:15:41] Never beg

[01:15:43] Gotta have self-respect

[01:15:48] I'm gonna do

[01:15:51] Otherwise this was the sale really worth it

[01:15:56] Number two if this is an extra game

[01:16:00] Jail give that download hell yeah

[01:16:02] Okay, I'll give that I'll give that a shot. Does it sound appealing to you?

[01:16:06] It reminds me a lot of

[01:16:09] There was a multiplayer mode in red faction gorilla

[01:16:13] where basically

[01:16:14] Yeah, whoever many players you all take turns on the same map from the same start point and then you get like a weapon

[01:16:21] So like the the the main weapon for red faction gorilla was a gorilla was a sledgehammer

[01:16:26] So it's like this is the map you have

[01:16:31] 30 or you have one minute

[01:16:34] Create the the highest dollar amount destruction within one minutes with with this sledgehammer and then you look you would use like

[01:16:41] Like like the physics to your advantage

[01:16:43] So like something you could do is like you go to like like a smokestack and use the sledgehammer like chop it down like a tree

[01:16:48] And then it falls over and then it falls into a building creates destruction like that kind of like that

[01:16:52] It gives me it feels like that he's not kind of vibe where it's like you have X amount of time

[01:16:57] How much destruction can you can you do in this amount of time?

[01:17:00] And I love that mode. So you know what?

[01:17:03] Sure, I'll give that a shot. It's not gonna be exactly the same

[01:17:06] But it makes me feel makes you feel like it has that it's really like I've only played like the first handful of levels

[01:17:14] But like it gets it gets to like ridiculous like kind of set pieces and just like scenarios

[01:17:22] that like

[01:17:24] As soon as you see the objective you're like

[01:17:27] What how the fuck am I gonna do this and like

[01:17:31] I don't know. There's something about it. It is a very

[01:17:34] Addicting like loop of a game like it's just like every level is kind of just the sandbox

[01:17:41] You're just kind of left to your own devices to figure out how you're supposed to do this. I gotta be honest

[01:17:48] Your description is kind of making me want to play Red Faction Gorilla more than this game

[01:17:53] But I will play

[01:17:56] I have never played Red Faction well, I've seen it

[01:17:59] I've my buddy had it when we were growing up and he was really the first one

[01:18:05] The first one's the FPS

[01:18:07] The first two are FPS is oh

[01:18:10] Wait gorilla is the one on ps3, right? Yeah. Yeah ps3 Xbox 360 PC. Oh, I own that one. I used to own that one

[01:18:17] That's a third person. Yeah. Yeah, that was good. I like that good game

[01:18:22] Yep, I should I should be a still that came honestly

[01:18:26] I'm gonna sell

[01:18:29] So now the other things that I mentioned though like would you try Mega Man 11? Oh

[01:18:36] I don't think so

[01:18:39] If it was if it was like

[01:18:44] Let's see if it was a fucking hard game, too

[01:18:51] Like it is one of the hardest Mega Man's

[01:18:54] That I've I remember playing like it's up there. It's not like I've recently beat Mega Man X6

[01:19:02] Wasn't that hard when it was pretty pretty difficult was x6 the last Mega Man X game

[01:19:09] No, well, it was the last 2d Mega Man X game on ps1

[01:19:15] Okay, and then they went 3d

[01:19:18] If if they if they ever did a new 2d Mega Man X game

[01:19:22] I would be more likely to install that than Mega Man 11

[01:19:25] You like Mega Man X more than like just straight Mega Man. Yes

[01:19:31] I

[01:19:31] Think it was all those years of playing it on Super Nintendo at a friend's house as a wee boy

[01:19:38] Yeah, yeah, who who could have that been? Oh, no one knows

[01:19:44] No way to know unfortunately, I think I had all three of those which is insane because I

[01:19:51] When I sold my Super Nintendo to that girl that day

[01:19:53] I just remember like looking at all those amazing games and just I wept

[01:19:57] Because it was all because I needed to get that n64 because my parents wouldn't just outright buy it for me

[01:20:03] But I remember leaping those there's so many fucking good games and Mega Man X3 is like one of the most expensive

[01:20:11] Super Nintendo games you can buy it these days

[01:20:14] And my mr. Membrane was there a cell shaded Mega Man X game

[01:20:21] The

[01:20:21] Mega Man X7 and 8 are sort of maybe I guess yeah

[01:20:27] That's that's that's like what looks it looks sell shaded like Mega Man himself is sell shaded

[01:20:32] Yeah, it's not it's

[01:20:34] Mega Man X8 apparently is not as bad as people let on it to be but Mega Man X

[01:20:41] 7 7 is not great. We threw that on recently and I was like how bad could it be?

[01:20:47] Pretty fucking bad turns out

[01:20:50] You know what I would love for

[01:20:54] Not to for it to be for a comeback

[01:20:56] But I would like a known franchise to come out with a game today and have it be cel-shaded because I loved some of those shells

[01:21:02] I love cel-shading. Oh my god. I got it. It got a bit over. It got a bit much

[01:21:05] Like they started doing it way too much, but some of those like cel-shading games were great

[01:21:11] You were okay. We're going off topic you ever play

[01:21:14] You ever play all the thread you're playing auto motorista. I

[01:21:19] Don't even know what that is. That's a cel-shaded racing game for what console it was a PlayStation 2 game

[01:21:26] I will play it. It's a well. It's this add-on sale

[01:21:32] It was was it the best racing game no, but it was

[01:21:37] Cell shaded and it looks fucking cool as hell when you played it here. I'll send you ever play killer 7

[01:21:43] Killer 7 I did not play that game

[01:21:48] Also, I had this conversation with somebody recently. I can't remember who was I

[01:21:53] Will still stand on the hill and fucking die on it that wind waker is the best-looking Zelda

[01:22:01] I

[01:22:02] Think that's that's that's that's that you know what you have you can defend that it's defense a defendable take

[01:22:08] It's the best even now like you go back to win waker even on Gamecube not I'm not even talking to HD one

[01:22:14] Go back to Gamecube in 4-3. It still looks fucking amazing compared to a

[01:22:21] bajillion other games on the Gamecube like

[01:22:24] There's something about cel shading that like I don't know like it retains

[01:22:30] That look it does ages a it doesn't age as poorly

[01:22:33] Like I just sent a screenshot from Auto mode Alista and that like tell me that looked at like

[01:22:39] If you know, that's a piece. That's a ps2 game and like tell me wouldn't believe that was could be on a later console

[01:22:45] Wow, that's good looking. I feel like I think that's good

[01:22:49] It's it's not in motion. So I feel like in motion

[01:22:51] Maybe it would give itself up but in a screenshot. I feel like I could tell you that's a ps4 game and

[01:22:58] You might believe me. Yeah, baby

[01:23:02] I could gas like you into believe

[01:23:09] Yeah, I

[01:23:09] Fucking love a cel shaded game. I really do that mad mullet magic. It's kind of like cel shaded ish

[01:23:19] Same thing. Yeah, it's good. You ever heard a mullet magic, right?

[01:23:27] I'm sorry, I do this to you you're not the only one either like I do this to lots of people

[01:23:31] I'm like you ever hear this movie. They're like, I fucking told you about this movie four months ago. I'm like

[01:23:38] I thought I found it organically Jerry's like the easiest person to inception. You don't even have to try

[01:23:48] Go ahead and try to sell your game to Greg, okay

[01:23:54] Was it my isn't it my turn? Oh good good

[01:24:00] You just or do you want to end?

[01:24:04] How much sorry?

[01:24:07] Yeah, what one for one for each of them okay, okay

[01:24:13] Then I have the quick and then I will quickly I have okay

[01:24:21] What's is that your sales push?

[01:24:23] It's your turn. It's your turn. It's your turn. I had a thought they

[01:24:31] I told you it would develop in

[01:24:35] Okay

[01:24:37] Let me get out my notes

[01:24:41] Because with sleeping dogs, I could just go off the hook up because I played that game a lot

[01:24:49] But this one I broke it down into into into segments call for this one

[01:24:57] So

[01:24:59] Good afternoon Beth, my name is Greg

[01:25:01] and

[01:25:03] I'm here today to pitch to you a game that I know you would never give a second look to okay

[01:25:11] It is a Western developed game. No, and the game that I'm going to pitch to you is

[01:25:18] Battle Tech

[01:25:20] Okay now

[01:25:23] Now battle tech is

[01:25:26] It's a what's it called? It's an established

[01:25:30] An established franchise like all the all the mech warrior games and whatnot came from the battle tech universe

[01:25:36] There's a few other things game for the battle tech universe

[01:25:37] But the overall like universe like franchise itself is just called battle tech and it's based off an old

[01:25:45] tabletop war game

[01:25:47] Now I believe I've seen it

[01:25:49] now the because it and this it goes back to like I

[01:25:53] Think maybe don't go me this may be the 70s like it's long running. Okay. Okay. I'm good

[01:25:59] Yeah, like battle tech because it was a tabletop game. So battle tech has existed for a long a long time

[01:26:07] One word. Yeah all one word battle tech

[01:26:10] Just bringing up the game. I don't want to see the game

[01:26:14] When did this is great for listening when did battle tech?

[01:26:20] 1984

[01:26:21] Right now Greg is googling

[01:26:23] Jerry put some music on in the background

[01:26:25] Battle Tech has been around since 1984

[01:26:28] Yeah, all the images on Google are just the tabletop game. Yeah, so

[01:26:34] Along with that comes a very rich and established universe

[01:26:41] filled with like lots of

[01:26:44] Lore and actually also like lots of like in-world politics

[01:26:49] so

[01:26:51] The game that is a kind of like a tactic space game kind of similar to like your your fire emblems and other games and

[01:26:58] Fire limbs X comms kind of in that vein

[01:27:01] I'm assuming also like a Mario and Rabbids all all kinds of like a tactics like your standard tactics game

[01:27:07] the first thing you do when you

[01:27:10] Load up the game is you choose whether you want to do

[01:27:16] the story or

[01:27:18] the the campaign

[01:27:20] The story just being obviously the narrative experience and the campaign just being like if you just want to play the game and

[01:27:28] Like ignore all the story stuff and just kind of like do that. You can do that as well

[01:27:33] So I for the purposes of this pitch

[01:27:36] I'm just gonna I'm gonna talk about the story version of the game as it's what I've played the most

[01:27:39] so when you play the story version

[01:27:43] the first thing you do is you choose

[01:27:47] What house you want to be part of so there's a long list

[01:27:51] I feel like there's like 12 different houses you can be part of and when you select each one it tells you kind of

[01:27:57] Where this house is in the galaxy

[01:28:00] What they stand for as a faction who they're aligned with what their standing is amongst the rest of universe

[01:28:04] There's all kinds of like that so you go through it and you choose what kind of lines up with what you think is the most interesting

[01:28:13] No

[01:28:15] Matter which of those options you choose it's all it always makes you of of noble birth

[01:28:21] but then from that point it's it depends on like

[01:28:26] In every instance you break away from your noble family, but you choose on how you did it so you can choose if you broke away

[01:28:33] So if you broke away like by your own choice that you're tired of living like a pampered life

[01:28:37] You could choose if you broke away

[01:28:40] Because your family was betrayed and all murdered

[01:28:42] Etc etc, so you choose that and then you choose what you did from there basically you build your own story

[01:28:48] But when you're building your own story what you're also doing is depending on your choices

[01:28:53] You're choosing your stat alignment for your character

[01:28:57] So certain backgrounds will give you

[01:29:01] Like more piloting skills or if you go with like a background due to piracy

[01:29:05] You might have more like gunnery skills and things like that

[01:29:10] So yeah depending on your choices, that's all gonna be laid out

[01:29:14] So then fast forward to once that's all done it gets to the story

[01:29:18] Proper now the way the story is told outside of gameplay is through

[01:29:24] What looks to be it looks to be it probably isn't but it looks like hand-painted images with visual effects put over it and

[01:29:31] It's so it's like you have these beautiful images and it tells you like voice narration over it in terms of what's happening

[01:29:36] And so the way the story starts is

[01:29:41] The the like the air to this to the air to the throne in this area of the galaxy that you're in is

[01:29:49] her father has just died and

[01:29:52] She's gonna be coronated and you're selected to be part of the honor guard because you kind of came up with her and

[01:29:58] so

[01:29:58] You meet up with her and you're on the way to the coronation when her uncle

[01:30:04] Stages a coup always the fucking uncle. Yeah, so basically her extended families stages a coup to

[01:30:12] to to rest power and you have to

[01:30:17] To

[01:30:18] Kind of this is how the gate that this is how does the tutorial it's on like

[01:30:23] Extracting her to a drop ship to escape from the planet you do go through all that you go through the tutorial

[01:30:32] She she

[01:30:34] Appears to have died because her drop ship gets blowed up the person you're

[01:30:41] They got blowed up blowed up from the feet up. Yeah, blow it up her drop should got blowed up

[01:30:47] And then it's you against like insurmountable odds with your mentor your mentor forces you to eject

[01:30:55] and then he

[01:30:57] He dies

[01:31:01] So you're because your your mech gets destroyed and all this your

[01:31:06] In your escape pod you get picked up from space by this murk group who kind of nurses you back to health in the game fast forwards three years

[01:31:15] Where you are now the leader of this murk group and then that is when the game becomes in fact two games

[01:31:23] So it's there is the the tactical combat game, which you know

[01:31:28] I'll touch on in a bit, but from that point on it becomes a management sim for this mercenary company

[01:31:35] and so when you

[01:31:38] When you regain like when you when it is like the time skip

[01:31:42] What you are your kind of briefed on is that you're the leader of this murk group and you guys are heavily in debt

[01:31:48] You owe the bank you owe banks money and

[01:31:52] Because you're a murk group the only way you can get your money is by doing

[01:31:57] missions

[01:31:58] Makes sense and so

[01:32:00] From that point on you have to pick up contracts

[01:32:03] But when you do your contracts you have to then choose if you want to

[01:32:09] Go all in and get for the highest payout or if instead you want to go in and get more salvage

[01:32:15] the the pros to getting

[01:32:18] money is that

[01:32:19] You will pay down your debt faster and it takes money to travel farther out into the deeper galaxy

[01:32:27] The pros of taking salvage is that salvage you'll you'll get new weapons

[01:32:31] And you'll be able to salvage full mechs and things like that and then

[01:32:34] Me to thereby making you stronger. So the game itself is easier, but your net poor in the long run

[01:32:41] And so you have to balance this along with knowing that I'm limit

[01:32:47] there

[01:32:48] I think there are time limits. There's like small time limits when you play

[01:32:53] They're not like they're like early on they're like it's not a big deal

[01:32:58] Like he gives you time for some freedom, but then like late late game you have to

[01:33:04] Really think about like how you want to do this

[01:33:07] Like if you want to be in it more so for money or if you want to be in it more so for the salvage

[01:33:11] And then depending on how your gameplay has gone to that point

[01:33:14] So if you lose mechs like if you lose a mech, it's gone. If you lose a pilot

[01:33:18] They're more than likely gonna be gone. So like you have to

[01:33:23] Anyway, I'll touch on that when I get to the gameplay

[01:33:26] So you have to

[01:33:28] manage like this murk outfit so you have to make enough money to

[01:33:32] Pay your other pilots and pay down

[01:33:34] Another gameplay well this is 47 minute pitch. This is two games

[01:33:43] and

[01:33:44] Then like aside from like all the payments and stuff like that and repairs

[01:33:47] You have to do on your mechs. There's other things that you have to be in consideration

[01:33:52] Like every so often you'll have to a refuel the ship, but then there'll be like hey

[01:33:58] We want to turn this cargo bay into a movie theater. Can we do that?

[01:34:03] Which will have a monetary cost, but then it will also improve

[01:34:08] The stats of the other pilots and things like that and those will pop up randomly every now and then or sometimes

[01:34:15] There'll be like a dispute between two crew members and then depending on who you side with it can benefit the whole company

[01:34:21] Or a benefit pilots or whatever the case may be

[01:34:25] There's and there's way more to it than that but like again

[01:34:28] We don't have 47 minutes for me to get on with how extensive the management of this goes

[01:34:36] The actual gameplay is

[01:34:39] Really really

[01:34:41] Like nitty gritty tactics gameplay now

[01:34:44] It doesn't have to be hard because there is a full difficulty slider and you can play it on full casual if you wanted to

[01:34:49] Turn off permadeath and stuff because I don't like that about XCOM

[01:34:52] I never got into XCOM because I don't like not being able to get like attached to your characters

[01:34:57] Can you turn permadeath off in XCOM?

[01:35:02] to at least

[01:35:07] I

[01:35:08] Don't know. I've never I've never looked into it because I'd I like permadeath but hon battle tech

[01:35:14] permade

[01:35:15] Why am I not surprised?

[01:35:17] off

[01:35:19] So

[01:35:21] There is not a way to turn off turn off permadeath, but it's very easy to save scum

[01:35:28] Because you can save in the middle of missions and everything like that

[01:35:30] And then if you feel like something's gonna go bad

[01:35:32] You just drop a save and then you can you can go from there

[01:35:36] Okay, or if it's looking like that what you can do is if it's looking like that character

[01:35:40] Like there's a character whose mech is like fucked up and you know like

[01:35:44] That they're going down that mech has like one good good like hit left in it or something like that you can actually eject them

[01:35:51] And so that way they're back on the ship. They're at the very worst. They'll be injured, but they won't be

[01:35:58] dead

[01:35:59] Okay, so

[01:36:02] Now when you're

[01:36:04] When you do eject it's kind of like you can do that but the other in doing that you lose a

[01:36:09] You lose one of your squad members for that for that mission because obviously they're gone

[01:36:14] You lose them if they died anyways, right? You know, but it's not it's better than losing them forever

[01:36:22] All right can argue yeah, I know obviously the main character is immortal because there's no story if they die

[01:36:29] Yeah, they're like the loose condition like in Fire Emblem you can like turn off permadeath

[01:36:34] You can turn off runoff whatever but like if you have it on like the loose condition is like

[01:36:40] The main character dies. Yeah. Yeah, exactly

[01:36:45] Now the actual gameplay it's it seems he modeled very closely off the actual tabletop game because

[01:36:52] You control which way you're facing and your movement

[01:36:55] so

[01:36:56] You can flank mechs if you can get behind an enemy mech and shoot it from behind because mechs have no arm

[01:37:02] Almost no armor from behind you can do huge damage. So

[01:37:05] Cover their butts exactly you can shoot them in the button do huge damage

[01:37:08] You can target specific limbs and reason why that is useful is because if you want to maximize your salvage

[01:37:14] Your highest chance to hit is by shooting center mass, but that's like the least amount of cell which you're blowing up the mech

[01:37:20] But a smart player will disable a mech by shooting off its legs

[01:37:25] That's like a lot of management like a lot of stuff

[01:37:29] There's a lot of nitty-gritty management in in the game

[01:37:33] and

[01:37:34] Then so like you can manage heat when your little twinkle lights you can manage

[01:37:40] They're they're not they're not perfect. They're I've been trying to ignore them all time. Yeah, okay

[01:37:48] When you're

[01:37:50] So when you're out in the actual combat there there's other things you have to think about so

[01:37:54] line of sight is a is a big one

[01:37:57] But not always necessary

[01:38:01] And then the types of weapons you're using so you can use things like missiles which are usually a pretty heavy punch, but

[01:38:07] ammo limited you can use

[01:38:11] lasers which are

[01:38:12] Not the super strongest and they generate heat, but they have no ammo dependency

[01:38:19] They just generate heat and then there's big versions of like like Gauss rifles and

[01:38:25] What they call PPCs just I'm gonna call them super lasers for simplicity sake which do huge damage

[01:38:30] but are either ammo dependent or

[01:38:32] Generate lots of heat you might overheat to shuts down for a turn so

[01:38:39] I'm talking about losing my losing my train of thought here

[01:38:42] But so yeah, there's lots to consider in combat

[01:38:45] But one of the most fun things to consider in combat is the makeup of your team

[01:38:51] So you

[01:38:52] What I mean by that is mechs have different weights and the different weights excel different things so you can choose a

[01:38:59] Light mech which is very low lightly equipped on weapons

[01:39:03] But has the most movement and the most sensor range

[01:39:05] You can choose a heavy mech which has tons of armor tons of weapons

[01:39:08] but almost no movement or you choose a medium wet mech which is good at both but like not great at anything and

[01:39:14] So what you can do is you choose a light mech to kind of just scout up ahead and if a light mix can

[01:39:23] Detect something like well in the in the distance

[01:39:27] Then the larger mix can attack without line of sight and they can basically use their missile launchers from

[01:39:33] Well outside of range without of mean of see it and even scary hits that way

[01:39:39] anyway, I

[01:39:40] digress

[01:39:41] This is best you're gonna install this tonight. This is a

[01:39:48] Super a super nitty gritty

[01:39:51] tactics game with a very engaging

[01:39:55] political story that you craft very much based on your

[01:40:01] background and character that you've made

[01:40:03] Because depending on the character you've made that also affects where you can travel to in the galaxy and how other factions

[01:40:09] Like relate to you. So if you have a pirate background, you can use the pirate black market for example

[01:40:15] Or if you'll lie with this one faction

[01:40:19] Like certain factors might give might give you better payouts on your contracts where other

[01:40:24] Factures might not even want you in their space

[01:40:27] So there's a lot to do in the game and it can unfold a lot of different ways every time you play it

[01:40:34] While still having the same overall story because it has like priority missions that come up every after because there's a

[01:40:39] Calorne that goes with it and after

[01:40:42] Every like so many days, then you'll get triggered for a main story

[01:40:47] Okay mission

[01:40:49] But yeah, that's why you meant like stuff is time but like little bits. Yes exactly

[01:40:56] So yeah, you have you have the time on like

[01:40:59] fuel you have timing on

[01:41:02] Just deadlines all kinds of stuff I

[01:41:08] Like this is an audio medium

[01:41:13] I like out for the listeners out there. I just started slowly holding up my my

[01:41:21] Super Nintendo or super Famicom version of trials of mana and

[01:41:26] I was slowly moving it closer to the camera and as I was doing that Beth was also slowly getting like moving

[01:41:33] Her face closer to her camera

[01:41:36] The glare like the reflect like the light glare. It's like I couldn't fucking see I was like, huh

[01:41:43] But that's my homeboy during right there Duran Duran

[01:41:50] I think so God, I think that like I think there's a I also see the vision

[01:41:55] I see what parts of this are your series here. You're appealing to

[01:42:01] Things that I like I

[01:42:04] Think in general, it's a little too like he's the nitty gritty like it's the minute to too much

[01:42:15] Management aspects and stuff going on. I like light management. Hmm. I don't enjoy

[01:42:23] You're talking about having to like manage the the the Merc stuff

[01:42:27] And then a lot of like stuff to kind of weigh and deal with in different

[01:42:32] Choices and everything like that. I don't tend to like that unless it's like a very small aspect or if it's done

[01:42:39] Income ink like a little bit. I like genre blends a lot and this just seems heavy

[01:42:48] Tactics only, you know very very like

[01:42:53] so

[01:42:53] But I see I see with the parts that you're like this would appeal to Tibet

[01:42:59] Well, when you if you slide the difficulty slider down to the easier difficulties

[01:43:05] It eases up those restrictions on your on your management as well

[01:43:08] Mm-hmm

[01:43:09] You don't feel that crunch quite as much and it's yeah, think about it less

[01:43:15] Yeah, because I have like your nest egg of money and things like that

[01:43:18] Even with and and like another thing that I tend to like not enjoy or something I do enjoy with like

[01:43:26] Tactics games that I've played is that I like when they are like a company a full group

[01:43:33] Like a company of people who each have their own individual story and reasons for being there and doing their thing

[01:43:38] And you're kind of following like a rag tag group of like people who maybe usually just in unit in an army

[01:43:45] Tag like the rag tag group. So that's why I like stuff that's like

[01:43:51] XCOM and

[01:43:53] You know a little bit like you're you're just getting units that are just people with names next to them and different colors on them

[01:44:01] I just don't end up getting as invested

[01:44:04] um, I

[01:44:06] Understand that the the story more so revolves around player character

[01:44:12] The air to the throne who appears to be dead, but there's maybe a still alive

[01:44:19] Genuinely shocked yeah, and and that like that one they did go bloom

[01:44:27] How do they survive no one knows I

[01:44:30] Legitally don't remember your nose

[01:44:33] Plot armor is how yeah plot armor. Sorry. Yeah

[01:44:37] But they did so oh and you can also add you also like add custom paint shops to your mix

[01:44:44] All right, well we've all done a lot of selling here today

[01:44:52] Some some may play stuff that's the summy again. Oh, yeah

[01:44:57] I've done one part. I

[01:45:01] Mean I like talk to you I talked to you a lot of my Tanzania vests, but I didn't

[01:45:05] The whole thing go ahead get a commission I

[01:45:12] Sorry, I my eyes glazed over so badly

[01:45:17] with the battle tech talk I

[01:45:21] Have I have um I

[01:45:25] Also have a bonus remember and the extra little right. Yes, honey little thing after in time

[01:45:31] You gotta buy one get one

[01:45:36] Wrote something down. I wrote on top so clearly it was somehow is the first idea I had which I don't know

[01:45:44] Not the point of the game sell your shit. Okay. I got it quick quick little thing

[01:45:52] Greg you own Alan wake to what the fuck do you mean? You're only playing hearthstone until

[01:45:58] Goddann space Marines play

[01:46:01] Dude, I know you're gonna love it

[01:46:05] Actually downloaded quantum break as well, but I have that too

[01:46:11] My friend, you know, you want to play this game

[01:46:14] That was like the first instinct I had was to be like Alan wake to but then I was like that's just such an easy one

[01:46:21] That's not selling me like I'm already sold on it. Yeah, like your soul

[01:46:23] So it was just like when you but when you were like he's already

[01:46:27] Mean you're only playing hearthstone

[01:46:31] Any

[01:46:32] Okay, this one. I don't know because I actually I put a question mark next to it

[01:46:36] I actually don't know if you've played it or not. Okay, so I'm gonna say this one

[01:46:40] I want me to tell you right away if I've played it. Yes, because if not, I have a backup. Okay

[01:46:45] Have you played the prey like the new one? Yeah, I have not played the new one

[01:46:51] I haven't played the old one either. I don't know why I had to be you haven't played pray. Okay, Greg

[01:46:59] So what the fuck I

[01:47:02] Had I had a I

[01:47:05] Can tell I can tell you the game this is this is after this was after thought this one came in after thought

[01:47:11] You know how I told you about how there was a game that came to me in a dream that started all of this writing

[01:47:15] That was deadly premonition. I think you'd like the weird-ass vibes the combat

[01:47:19] I think you'd really maybe bounce off the comments. So I really had to start

[01:47:23] kind of thinking about

[01:47:24] Greg and what does Greg like Greg likes nobody knows nobody knows

[01:47:32] Greg do you know

[01:47:33] something that in all of your

[01:47:37] Random-ass things cuz like you're like Greg doesn't like genres

[01:47:43] Greg likes a singular game out of the blue and you're like, I don't do you like any other thing in this genre?

[01:47:50] It's like no you know, I picked here down

[01:47:52] You're like talking and it's like oh, yeah, I play Crusader Kings and it's like what the fuck you play

[01:47:58] What do you mean? So it's just like you like that but then you like but there's something that I feel like I've heard you talk about

[01:48:06] In general and this is something that I think that appeals to you maybe

[01:48:10] Beyond games and in real life. So hopefully it applies here is feeling like you've outsmarted the game

[01:48:19] Feeling like you get to

[01:48:21] They're given tools within a system and then you get to use those tools in a way you see fit to

[01:48:28] Potentially outsmart and break that system

[01:48:32] Okay, okay

[01:48:34] Oh

[01:48:36] Yeah

[01:48:46] That's insane

[01:48:47] Okay

[01:48:48] No, so that is that's pray that is kind of the bread and butter of the mechanics of pray and

[01:48:57] What explain so you are given explain

[01:49:02] You're given, you know some weapons and whatever but the main

[01:49:07] Aspect of this I'm gonna say is that you're given a weapon very early on called the glue gun

[01:49:12] uh-huh

[01:49:13] And I've used those before yes

[01:49:17] And it lets us kind of not like this and it lets you kind of like

[01:49:22] Against the main enemies of the game are called typhons

[01:49:26] And it lets you sort of like freeze them in place sort of stuff because they can make the main ones

[01:49:32] You first encounter called mimics the whole point is that they can change into anything like you know

[01:49:37] Mimic chest in a game except they can be literally anything

[01:49:41] But you can freeze them with the glue gun

[01:49:43] But and you're like okay, that's what this is but you can also then use the glue gun to like

[01:49:51] Put like stairs up like against like a wall so that you can get to places that maybe you're not supposed to get to right away

[01:49:57] So like it not supposed to get to but like you can get to it and there's

[01:50:02] a

[01:50:04] lot of like

[01:50:05] Choices you get to make it's like not like they're kind of like that do you learn about

[01:50:11] There's like a character in a cage and you like kind of read information about them and you're like

[01:50:16] Oh, do I kill them or doing not kill them?

[01:50:18] So and then that choice will kind of come back a little bit later on but the main

[01:50:23] gameplay aspect is like getting

[01:50:26] This glue gun and getting these weapons and kind of getting to like play in this sandbox and kind of a

[01:50:31] Little like dishonored like because this is also our cane a little like dishonored

[01:50:36] It's kind of you get it like dishonored. Yeah, you get to tackle

[01:50:39] You get to tackle. Yeah, like you but you get to tackle these like environments in these levels in kind of a way that

[01:50:46] makes

[01:50:48] for your gameplay experience and the things that you choose to unlock because there's also like a little there's like a

[01:50:53] little bit of a skill tree and you can kind of upgrade certain powers and

[01:50:58] Do you also then can get like tithe and powers which is really interesting and then I?

[01:51:04] think like

[01:51:06] That's the kind of stuff that I think you would kind of really vibe with but on top of that

[01:51:10] It does have a pretty interesting story. The story is not there. It's not like a sludge

[01:51:16] it's it is

[01:51:17] There's some plot twists some of them more obvious than others

[01:51:21] But like it does do well enough to kind of like

[01:51:25] Breakdown like kind of readjust how you're you're viewing this experience a few times

[01:51:31] and

[01:51:32] You know, there's it has like that

[01:51:37] Some of the kind of like way that the story is told and like some of the way the characters are presented remind me a little bit of

[01:51:44] Like characters and stuff from control

[01:51:47] So that's another reason I thought you might

[01:51:49] vibe with prey is that it has like a storytelling structure and like

[01:51:54] Kind of like little bits and pieces that seem like weird and like

[01:51:59] Kind of like that little bit of like sci-fi but with supernatural elements to it

[01:52:06] That control has while getting to play and it's a first-person shooter

[01:52:11] But I mean the shooters like most of the glue gun and then you kind of get like these type and powers which are a bit like

[01:52:16] The dishonored powers so it's all and you get to play the way one

[01:52:20] So I'm gonna evolve into blah blah blah

[01:52:26] Also both my uncle

[01:52:28] And who is very and my cousin Jack who are very picky with what they like

[01:52:33] My cousin basically almost exclusively plays racing games both of them love this game

[01:52:40] and have like replayed it a bunch and

[01:52:45] That's my pitch should tell you should tell them play auto Mona Lisa

[01:52:49] Okay, well, I could tell Jack that auto Mona Lisa

[01:52:53] Um, so yeah, I think that that you that's that's the one that's what you should play

[01:53:00] I think that's mostly my pitch if you have any questions. I can try and answer them

[01:53:05] I watched a four-hour video about pray and I really liked it now speaking as Beth's manager

[01:53:11] I'll help her out with the sale a little bit here

[01:53:14] I'll give you I'll give you like a 10% off coupon kind of thing. I can vouch prey is

[01:53:20] Fantastic, I would argue it is arcane's best game

[01:53:24] It's my uncle my uncle is a huge

[01:53:27] Huge arcane fan like he loves

[01:53:30] Dishonored one two death loop. I don't know some of the other things that they've done. I played dishonored

[01:53:36] For it he played pray. I'm not I

[01:53:42] Moved since we moved into this house like three ish years ago

[01:53:46] He's played pray no less than six times

[01:53:51] And there's a moon. There's this mooncrusher DLC. That's like I never played that

[01:53:56] He's obsessed it has like it's a bit more of like the survival game

[01:54:01] If that's something you ended up wanting to play but be but with the mechanics of the main game that are really enjoyable

[01:54:08] if you like them so he

[01:54:11] Good it's good

[01:54:12] And then you get to play it pray and then you get to pack it away

[01:54:15] And then if you do really like it you can probably try mooncrusher's

[01:54:19] Greg did you like dishonored?

[01:54:22] Yes, I'd like dishonored. I

[01:54:25] like I like to be able to

[01:54:29] Take care of every boss

[01:54:30] Non-lethaly that's what you feel like you're out smart the game does the same thing it makes

[01:54:35] You know

[01:54:36] Crazier way dude like it's way crazier the amount of shit that you could do a prey

[01:54:43] Single they almost every single NPC you come across you can get you choose whether or not you want to like help them

[01:54:50] Or just like leave them alone and let them, you know, whatever happens

[01:54:54] It's also wild walking into a room at seeing a sticky note being like the coffee mug is not real and you're like

[01:55:00] What coffee there's a coffee and then you see the coffee mug like you turn around then you turn around again

[01:55:05] And like the coffee mug has moved to a different area

[01:55:07] You're like the fuck's going on here

[01:55:09] And then you realize like you can't trust anything in that game at the beginning like because you don't know

[01:55:14] What is those fucking?

[01:55:16] Typhoons or whatever they're called. Yeah, so the type of the first type in this other called typhons

[01:55:20] But the first one you come across is like this tiny little spindly like four-legged black goo thing called a mimic and it does that and then

[01:55:27] I really believe

[01:55:30] Arcane has not made a game as good as pray since they made pray

[01:55:34] Yeah, I just I think that it's definitely was good

[01:55:38] Wasn't good pray. Yeah, so I

[01:55:42] Think

[01:55:44] So there's your 10% coupon

[01:55:47] That's Jerry's assist, but I really think you'd fuck with pray

[01:55:53] Well, and I really think you'd fuck with tear down too

[01:55:58] Tell you what guys I will I

[01:56:01] Wouldn't have given it any thought

[01:56:03] prior to this

[01:56:05] But now if I'm ever like I need something to play I'm not gonna install a little week too, but maybe I'll play

[01:56:20] Also my little bonus

[01:56:23] Since yes, unless anything else to say

[01:56:29] Bonus time

[01:56:34] Okay, it's actually

[01:56:37] Fucking batch it insane

[01:56:40] that Jerry said this because I

[01:56:45] Wrote the first thing I wrote down when I was like, oh pitch a game for us

[01:56:48] I pitched a game that all three of us should play together

[01:56:53] and

[01:56:53] That game is Boba is you and then Jerry saying Boba is you randomly after

[01:57:02] spacing out I

[01:57:05] Almost left my room because that's so creepy

[01:57:09] But I think it's because there I could see the the note in the reflection of your

[01:57:16] Your blinds. I'm not kidding. I kidding. It's all together. Baba is you I'm just kidding. I can't see shit

[01:57:23] I just said that deadly Prem. Yeah, that's I that's dead Prem

[01:57:29] And I thought the other one I thought of was banner saga

[01:57:34] Mmm, I started a banner saga. Yeah, I really I think you'd like that one, but then I got pray question mark

[01:57:39] Yeah, and then these were the three I wrote down for Jerry's

[01:57:43] Tales of the abyss cult of lamb

[01:57:46] I think you really like all the way there's a they just released a co-op mode for call to the lamb only online or only coach co-op

[01:57:55] What yeah, hey, we do that though. Let's look a little thing called parsec makes that

[01:58:01] You fun fact

[01:58:03] When we had

[01:58:06] Jamie aka catrinks on our on her show on retro rehab

[01:58:09] She told me after she told me after she's like a she developed a bunch of cores and stuff for the mister

[01:58:15] All right. All right, she told me after she was like I said something about parsec

[01:58:19] She was like, oh, that's cute. Do you actually like parsec? And I was like I do I don't get it

[01:58:24] She was like no because I I made parsec and I was like you made parsec. She's like, yeah

[01:58:30] My brother owns like that's my brother owns it and I help a while

[01:58:35] Yeah, I was like what the fuck dude. That's wild cuz they

[01:58:40] Yeah

[01:58:43] Yep, yep, that's her she's like she showed me like code and shit on her

[01:58:49] She took a screenshot of her computer screen and she's like yep

[01:58:53] I'm currently working on some stuff right now for parsec. I was like

[01:58:57] Now you have the in so shout out to to Jamie for

[01:59:02] For giving us all parsec parsec so an amazing program. It's it is

[01:59:07] It's better than some of the online that's included with some fighting games

[01:59:12] Yeah, yeah, we should play Bob is you three brains one puzzle game holy fuck

[01:59:18] Really hard fucking hard man, so I think it'd be really funny for the three

[01:59:24] Should play that together. I think it would be fun to play together

[01:59:27] Try to figure out Bob is you but then also key is door like the three of us trying to

[01:59:33] Communicate with each other over all is gone

[01:59:40] How crazy is this that

[01:59:43] Greg would you be down to play Bob is you together like all of us like guys one of us

[01:59:47] If we're all playing a game together, I'll be there. Yeah, hell yeah, which is if I like it or not

[01:59:52] I'll be there which is wild because I mean

[01:59:56] Beth sold two people on one thing maybe maybe she is

[02:00:04] But I just appealed to the power friendship like the anime

[02:00:08] There you go, Beth has learned so many things from the animes that she watches

[02:00:17] I

[02:00:20] Was scrolling through

[02:00:22] to through game pass

[02:00:24] To see if I wanted to install pray now or if I was to do as much later

[02:00:28] And I saw another game on here and I was like man. I should have chose that one

[02:00:32] Do you can tell me about after we all we ever do this again?

[02:00:35] We'll do this again, I think this is a cool idea

[02:00:41] I mean you'll come up things between now Greg will forget

[02:00:49] All right, I will 100% forget I've already forgotten

[02:00:54] But this was a lot of fun Greg. Good job, buddy. This was a good idea

[02:00:58] And I think I think we should do like more of these. I think this is like

[02:01:02] Give me podcasts in general. Yeah, I mean again

[02:01:05] Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we should get back at this wing of things and have this come out regularly once again finally

[02:01:12] No, but I mean I think

[02:01:14] Having an episode of like sell maybe it's like hey, let's try to sell each other on a

[02:01:20] Specific thing or something like selling each other on stuff is always fun because it's like

[02:01:29] It's so funny to me though watching you stress out and clench your peek at you pillow

[02:01:36] Yeah

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[02:03:10] Yeah, well until next time signing off. I'm Jerry that's Beth

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