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00:00 --> 00:03 Yes, we are. Soup to nuts.
00:04 --> 00:06 Soup to nuts. Today on.
00:23 --> 00:24 Don't.
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00:30 --> 00:47 Soup, two D's nuts. Thanks, Jeff. That's exactly what we're doing. Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Press be to cancel your. Your favorite podcast. Hopefully still this week. I am your host, Sick Jake, and I am joined by my fellow co hosts, Wolf Chard, Sinistar. Say hello.
00:47 --> 00:48 Hello.
00:48 --> 00:48 Hello.
00:48 --> 00:49 Hello. It's time.
00:50 --> 01:07 It's time. It is. It's time for reaching into the Santa's sack, pulling out some nuts as we go around the dinner table this week and talk about some games we've been playing. We've all been playing games quite a bit, but we've all been playing very different games. Games. I don't know if we want to do an entire episode on.
01:08 --> 01:12 So that's where we are today. That's why we're here now.
01:12 --> 01:28 That's why we're here now. But we do have some really great games to talk about and I want to give everybody a chance to talk about their game for, you know, give us some time to gush over the games you've been playing that you like or all over them, whatever your tradition is. I don't, I don't judge my tradition. Got a bunch of games to talk about.
01:30 --> 01:59 For me personally, it's kind of like there's been a lot of good games that came out this past year and I'm trying to catching up on at least trying a few of them that I can, I can kind of squeeze in my budget because there is more games that I played this year than I have in like at least five years. It's been a wild year for games I know for me personally, so trying to catch up on the, the things I might have missed. I'm not going to call my pick a hidden gem, but I still feel like I might have slept on it. So maybe it's similar for you guys. So who wants to kind of start and throw out their, their game they've been playing?
02:00 --> 02:01 I can go first.
02:01 --> 02:02 Sure.
02:02 --> 02:07 I, you know, I want to hear Wolf's take because I, I need to know. I, I gotta know.
02:08 --> 02:20 Okay. So the game I have been playing most actively recently is Octopath Traveler. I bought both of them last Christmas. Sale.
02:21 --> 02:24 Just started, so there you go.
02:24 --> 02:27 So you bought both one and two without playing the first one?
02:27 --> 02:32 Yeah, I had played the demo of the first one, so I knew I liked it.
02:32 --> 02:37 Didn't they have a, the sale last year had them like in a Package or something. You could get both of them at the same time, I think.
02:38 --> 02:39 I thought.
02:40 --> 02:44 I don't remember if it was that or if it. I just thought it was a good deal to get the both of them.
02:44 --> 02:47 So that's probably what it was. It's like Yakuza either way.
02:47 --> 02:53 So for those who don't know, you gotta explain what this game is, because it came out a few years ago and I think some folks might have missed out on this one.
02:54 --> 03:12 Yeah. I want to say it came out in 2018 because it. Originally I played the demo on the Switch back then when I lived in San Diego, so. Well, before I moved up here to Washington. And I was super stoked for it. I was really excited when I played the demo. I got it on the Switch, never started it.
03:15 --> 03:28 So now. Now that I've got the Steam deck, I never want to play anything on the Switch because the Switch is uncomfortable to play on. So if I can get something for the Steam, for Steam instead of Switch, that's kind of what I've been doing lately.
03:29 --> 03:47 So I grabbed those and it's. It has a bit of a slow start, I'll admit, especially with certain characters. The first time I did try playing it on the switch, I picked Therion the Thief, and oh, my gosh, I fell asleep twice trying to get through that opening.
03:48 --> 03:48 Sounds about right.
03:49 --> 03:53 And it was just the wrong character to pick to start with.
03:55 --> 04:00 Interestingly enough, I feel like the two characters that they did for the demo, Olberic and.
04:02 --> 04:09 Primrose the Dancer, were kind of the best two characters to pick. Like their stories were the most interesting right off the bat.
04:09 --> 04:10 Right. That's the.
04:10 --> 04:14 That's the Knight and the dancer. Right. O Breaks the knight. Or is the knight okay?
04:14 --> 04:22 Yeah. I've played a little bit of the Dancer in the full game, and it definitely has a compelling story from the start.
04:23 --> 04:34 Yeah. And so now I've worked through all of everybody's Chapter one. Some stories were a lot weaker than others, but by the end of their opening story, I was kind of in on each character regardless.
04:36 --> 04:41 But it doesn't play like a traditional RPG in the sense that usually, you know, you get characters and.
04:44 --> 04:51 Adds to the story as you go, where everybody's kind of involved and it doesn't do that. Everybody's stories is very standalone.
04:51 --> 04:52 Yeah.
04:52 --> 05:27 Which is totally fine. It kind of feels a lot. It reminds me a lot of Saga Frontier in that regard, where you're just kind of wandering around as each character and you can collect the other characters as you're going through. Except it does make one big cohesive game. Instead of having to play each character individually, I had a couple of gripes with it that I figured out. You know, they are not huge issues. They're not deal breakers, but one of them is that like whatever character you start with is in your party until you finish their main story. You cannot remove them from your party until you've done that.
05:27 --> 05:27 Right.
05:27 --> 05:46 So that was kind of frustrating because while I think Primrose's story is the most interesting, I don't think her gameplay is the most interesting. Oh, the dancer class I don't find the most interesting, but I've already. I've hit a point where I'm unlocking secondary jobs.
05:47 --> 05:47 Yes.
05:47 --> 05:53 So my full party is now has two jobs, which is cool. I'm. I'm really digging on that concept.
05:53 --> 05:59 So it's like the modern. It's like the modern economy. Economy. Everybody needs two jobs.
05:59 --> 06:05 Look, by day I strip at a club, and by night I'm a holy night. I mean, that's just how we do things in 2025.
06:05 --> 06:09 Listen, we're in manufacturing and then we're content creation. Okay.
06:10 --> 06:12 I work at the soup kitchen part of the time and.
06:13 --> 06:14 And then the nut tree factory.
06:15 --> 06:20 Yeah, exactly. There we go. There we go. We. From soup to nuts. We figured it out.
06:20 --> 06:20 There it is.
06:20 --> 06:21 Yep.
06:21 --> 06:22 YouTube. We're cool.
06:22 --> 06:23 We're good now. Yeah.
06:24 --> 06:29 There's actually a place in Vacaville called the Nut Tree. So it's like. It's an old something or other.
06:30 --> 07:10 I'm glad you got the double job, the two jobs, because that was the thing I had. Like, I played this game. I bought it when it came out. I was super hyped for Octopath because of the. The 2D HD art style. I really dig. I really dig the music and all that stuff. But when I start playing with it, like, much like you, I found a lot of the characters super boring, except for a handful. And I didn't like how. I mean, it's interesting that they all have their own story, but without the crossover. I was really bored. I'm assuming in. In the second round, they. They kind of integrate better together. But I was really. It was really awesome to see there's a job system of some sorts later on. I just kind of wish you unlocked it earlier, I guess. Did you mind it being so late in the game?
07:12 --> 07:19 Honestly, it's not that late in the game. You're collecting extra jobs before you hit anybody's chapter two.
07:20 --> 07:21 Okay.
07:21 --> 07:34 And I guess from what I understand there's four chapters per character, so, you know, it ramps up the difficulty level for each one quite a bit because they kind of expect you to go around and do a bunch before you move on to a chapter three or whatever. But.
07:36 --> 07:55 Like, Primrose is level 27, and her chapter two is recommended level 21, where the rest of my party is more around that point, except for maybe one of them is also around 26. 27. But, yeah, like, this is kind of what I wish Saga Frontier played, like, to an extent.
07:57 --> 08:10 Like, I loved what Saga Frontier was, but I like the combat in this better. I like the way the world unfolds before you better. And, I mean, it's kind of unfair to compare. They're 20 years apart. But.
08:12 --> 08:38 It does have a lot of similarities in how it portrays the story. I also like the fact that you're given optional story beats between the character, like the character who's having a chapter beat, and their party members. And so I learned about her. Primrose's Chapter two. She comes across a.
08:39 --> 08:44 How do I put this delicately? A berl and.
08:46 --> 08:48 A male entertainment house.
08:48 --> 08:51 Oh, Deuce Bigelow.
08:52 --> 08:52 Yeah.
08:55 --> 09:47 A much younger girl in the party. I think she's like, 17 or something. She's like, what's a brothel? And so Primrose doesn't outright tell her, but, I mean, you have to hit the start button to see this unfold. Otherwise you can just completely ignore these story bits. And then she just kind of leans up and whispers so you don't actually hear any of it. And then she's like, what? She's like, she had no idea that was a thing, and she's just all aghast from it. So those story beats are kind of interesting. I like how those play out. I've seen a few of them now, and I've also muscled my way through some bits that are probably a little harder for me than they should have. Like, then I. I was. I was underleveled for certain things I've done. Somehow I beat a boss in this one cave where most of the bite. The fights in the cave would kill me.
09:49 --> 09:58 Been to that cave. There's supposed to be, like, a lot of, like, gold or something you can grab out of that cave. That was a place that I was told to go and grind. I think it's the one.
09:58 --> 09:59 Oh, it's an ice cave.
09:59 --> 10:00 Oh, it's different.
10:00 --> 10:00 Okay.
10:00 --> 10:01 It's a different cave than I was thinking of.
10:02 --> 10:06 And the world is huge. The amount of towns in this game is absurd.
10:06 --> 10:07 Yeah, it's huge.
10:07 --> 10:09 Yeah, it's a bit huge.
10:09 --> 10:24 Map is actually kind of cool. I. I appreciate that. I like all the little interactions you have where you can just go up and steal candy from the kids or, you know, you can do barter with people to buy stuff from them. You can steal from them. You can.
10:24 --> 10:27 Nothing says Christmas like stealing candy from children.
10:28 --> 10:30 That's what we want to feature in our games.
10:31 --> 10:34 This is why it's kind of funny.
10:34 --> 10:37 How often you go to steal from a kid and they have candy.
10:38 --> 10:39 Okay.
10:41 --> 10:45 But I mean, I love these interactions. There's like, Alfin can.
10:47 --> 10:57 Have a chit chat with townspeople and learn things like hidden items or information for side quests. Things like that I really dig out together.
10:57 --> 10:58 Was he the scholar?
10:58 --> 10:58 He's what?
10:58 --> 10:59 The scholar?
10:59 --> 10:59 Yeah.
10:59 --> 11:08 No, he was the apothecary. The scholar does the similar thing, but he doesn't chat him up. He just sort of, like, watches him, I guess.
11:08 --> 11:10 That's. That's the one I started with. I played with.
11:11 --> 11:25 He's. I do like him. I like his story a lot. I like his mechanics a lot. He's one of my favorite characters. He just doesn't fit in the party I'm playing with right now. So I'm probably going to go through with four characters and. And then wing back around and do the other four characters.
11:25 --> 12:13 It's not bad. That's a. That's a better idea than. I took everybody on and was like, I'm going to do everything. And I burned myself out on it really fucking fast because I was like, we're not growing. We're not learning anything. I'm not gaining enough xp. Like, I don't. I don't understand Octopath Traveler's XP system at all. And it drove me crazy because I felt like I should have been stronger than I was with how much I was fighting and grinding. And I could. I couldn't figure it out. And I. I burned down on that game hella fast because I was like, I don't get it. Like, I don't. It's not making sense to me. This should be easy, but it's like, you got to steal and you got to get money, and it's not about xp. It's about how much money you have, what you can buy. And it's like, I can't get fucking money. Like, where do I get money from, really? No, that's. It's.
12:13 --> 12:14 It's.
12:14 --> 12:14 That was.
12:15 --> 12:16 I've had issues with both of those.
12:16 --> 12:17 The.
12:17 --> 12:26 Especially when you're going around and Getting all the characters at first, because every new character you get starts at level one. And by the time you get the eighth character, one of your characters is level 17. 18.
12:26 --> 12:27 Right.
12:27 --> 12:29 Your party is really off balance.
12:29 --> 12:30 Right. Yeah.
12:30 --> 12:48 It also seemed like after I got my eighth character, the game sort of gave me a gimme in one of the battles and there was an enemy that I couldn't hit, but I casted a spell on it and it just melted. And it was an enemy I had never seen before and I've not seen since, but it gave.
12:50 --> 12:53 It gave Tressa, who was my last character, like 10 levels.
12:54 --> 12:55 Wow.
12:55 --> 13:11 Maybe it's one boom shot way up. And so everybody got a good amount of XP and it sort of evened things out. So I'm wondering if there's characters or enemies you come in contact with that do that, that are just designed to sort of bring everybody up real quick.
13:11 --> 13:13 Even your party out. Yeah.
13:13 --> 13:15 Which. If that's what they did, that's really cool.
13:16 --> 13:17 That is impressive.
13:17 --> 13:18 I remember the.
13:18 --> 13:35 Usually when you play. When you play like a regular rpg, your character, like, usually comes in with a level close to what the main. The main character is. You know, it's weird that they're like, everybody's a beginner, but your dude's been playing for 20 hours, so he's level 80.
13:35 --> 13:53 Yeah. I'll be honest with you. That. That kind of gives me a little like, almost like I don't want to play it because I. I very much appreciate games that just. I don't have to worry about the minutia. I know that, like, every character is going to be in the same range. And so I don't know.
13:53 --> 13:54 Does Chrono do that?
13:54 --> 13:58 Does Chrono level kind of auto level your party members you don't use? I think it does, doesn't it?
13:58 --> 14:01 Feels like it. Either that or they come in close.
14:01 --> 14:05 To the level piece of the xp. I don't think they get all of it, but I think they get some.
14:05 --> 14:08 Yeah, it's. It's cut down by like a third or something.
14:08 --> 14:09 Yeah. Crazy like that.
14:09 --> 14:11 But it's. That's. So they never get too far behind.
14:11 --> 14:12 Right.
14:12 --> 14:41 Which in Octopath, that is an issue if you just leave your party to your other party members to wallow. They will just be little weaklings by the time you get to them. But you can also. It's. It's. It does seem like the XP scales a little bit similar to Suikoden. And I don't know if that's real or if I'm Just imagining it, but it does feel like certain areas give a lot more XP when you're a low level than when you're a high level.
14:42 --> 15:15 It's been like. I never really got very far in it, I guess. I only. I did a few of the. The chapter ones and I. I don't remember. I remember not. I remember it was hard, but I remember loving the combat when I was playing it, and I actually really dug the combat. I was playing this and it was bravely default at roughly around the same time. And it was like a. Almost like a mini renaissance of RPGs for me, but bravely default. I. I finished. I. I kind of fell off of Octopath, but I. I always want to go back to it because it looks and sounds awesome and it plays awesome. I just. Some of the story just didn't grab me.
15:16 --> 15:29 It's kind of a difficult game for your first two characters. Once you unlock your third character, it, like, gameplay gets real easy, especially if you've got a balanced group with like a healer damage, dealer tank kind of character. You're. You're set.
15:32 --> 15:52 But yeah, I really enjoy it. There's treasure chests out in the field that can only be unlocked by the thief, which I find frustrating because I don't keep him with me right now. Like, I understand the interactions in town are with NPCs, but treasure chests is a little. I don't care for that.
15:52 --> 15:53 That's a little dicey.
15:53 --> 16:03 I mean, to be fair, in the second game, to be fair, if I had a treasure chest that I wanted to keep things safe in and just left it out in the world, I'd lock it too.
16:03 --> 16:04 Yeah, fair point.
16:04 --> 16:06 The realism is really, really crunchy.
16:07 --> 16:22 Yeah, that's actually something funny I was thinking about while playing this one that I've never thought of before. Like, man, people just leave their treasure chests out in wherever. And I mean, some of them are a little hidden in this game, but it's still just like you're rolling the dice, just leaving a treasure chest of.
16:22 --> 16:25 Like, what's in this random steamer truck.
16:25 --> 16:27 I just bury here and nobody will find it.
16:28 --> 16:37 Yeah, I got people porch pirating Amazon boxes off of my porch. Like, I don't know if I trust leaving a treasure chest full of.
16:38 --> 16:49 See, that's when you make a treasure chest out of, like, wood and straps of metal so that somebody can't just run up and pick it up without injury.
16:49 --> 16:57 This is why I liked Final Fantasy 6, because they were smart and they hid the valuable elixirs inside the Clocks. That's what. That's the way you do.
16:57 --> 16:58 That's. That they did.
16:58 --> 17:00 Yeah, that's what I. That's why I think you did it.
17:01 --> 17:01 Jesus.
17:01 --> 17:09 I also want to mention I didn't realize this until yesterday. Octopath is the initials of the characters.
17:12 --> 17:13 Okay.
17:13 --> 17:14 Ophelia.
17:16 --> 17:19 Cyrus, Therion.
17:21 --> 17:29 Who'S the other O? But yeah, like, the eight letters of Octopath are all the initials of the eight characters. And they did it again in the second game.
17:30 --> 17:33 So it's Gattaca the movie. The video game.
17:34 --> 17:34 Yes.
17:35 --> 17:50 I remember when they announced this. They first announced the preview of this game was coming out because the trailer got me. The graphical style nailed me right away. And I seem to recall they said it was Octopath Traveler, but it was a working title. Like, it wasn't going to be called that.
17:50 --> 17:53 Project Octopath Traveler was a working title.
17:53 --> 18:03 Yeah. And literally ends up being called Octopath Traveler. And then when the same company ended up doing triangle strategy working title, I'm like, no, no, fool me once.
18:03 --> 18:05 Just keep it. Yeah, it's fine.
18:06 --> 18:08 Just call whatever thing regurgitate this week.
18:08 --> 18:15 It's funny, I have a suspicion that Octopath Traveler's demo was really well received. And they were like, well, now we can't change the name.
18:16 --> 18:27 Probably like the name sticks. Yeah. It's such a bizarre name, though. Like, it's just. But I mean, you look at like Chrono Trigger and. And Squeak it In and all the other games, like, the names are always kind of strange.
18:28 --> 18:36 Well, hold on. Because Octopath Traveler makes sense in the game because there's eight characters and they're on a path. They're on their own.
18:37 --> 18:38 They're all traveling together.
18:39 --> 18:40 Yeah, it makes sense.
18:40 --> 18:46 But when are you traveling in the woods on an adventure and you're saying, oh, we're gonna travel the Octopath. No, never.
18:46 --> 18:47 It's not a word.
18:49 --> 18:53 Like, that's like the. The. They're. They're the cats.
18:53 --> 18:53 Yeah.
18:55 --> 19:05 There's a really cool. Somebody did a piano motif for Octopath Traveler. They took pieces of the song and just turn it into piano pieces and they called it Pieces of Eight. I thought that was a real title for.
19:09 --> 19:48 When I streamed it, somebody came to my chat randomly to talk about it. He was. He was a super fan and he started breaking down how the music was multiple parts and changed throughout boss battles and whatnot. It's like, I know that, like, on paper, I should have really liked this game. There's so much going on with the music. And the graphics, I really feel like I need to give a shot. Especially when they announced the prequel just came out this past week, Octopath zero, which I didn't think was gonna be good because it was based on a mobile gacha game, but I guess they stripped all the. The cash grab stuff out of it. And it's apparently like gangsters. Huge reviews. So definitely a franchise. It's the three games in a franchise. It's pretty awesome.
19:49 --> 19:56 Yeah, I'm looking forward to playing that one. But I got one and a half. Well, one and three quarter games to go, so.
19:56 --> 20:03 Well, I was going to ask, now that you've given it some. Some time and effort, do you think you're going to finish it?
20:03 --> 20:06 Oh, yeah, for sure.
20:06 --> 20:07 I got to go back. I got to go back.
20:07 --> 20:09 I got to try it again. Yeah. Think about it.
20:10 --> 20:18 If you can make it through the chapter ones and start getting to chapter two. And I know that's a big ask. I'm us usually like two hours and I'm out if I'm not into it.
20:18 --> 20:33 Yeah, I got the chat. I was so, like, over it that I was like, okay. I think, like, I made it to the. I made it to the house and I went, I don't want to be here. And I turned around and left. Like, I. I couldn't.
20:33 --> 20:35 Who was your main character?
20:35 --> 21:14 Cyrus was my main character. I couldn't even walk to the, like, front door of the house. I was just like, nah, I'm good. Drive off. I couldn't do it. I. I wanted to so bad because, like, you said, like, like primroses was good. The hunter, the huntresses was pretty cool. I liked hers. And then there's some stuff where you're just like, okay, let's get through it. And they're so long, like, each chapter of everybody's story. And I think I was like, should I have just picked four characters and just played the four and not bother doing everybody else's? And then maybe like, that gives me another reason to play it again kind of thing.
21:14 --> 21:16 It wouldn't be the Octopath.
21:16 --> 21:22 No, it'd be the Quadra, the Quadrapath. Which would be fine because that's half the second game.
21:23 --> 21:58 The recommendation online, because I did a little digging because I was curious about trying to remove Primrose and learning that I couldn't. People were like, okay, we just recommend picking a party of four and playing through all their chapters and then going back and doing the other port, which is. That's what I'm doing at this point, except when I get to a new town, I drop two of my characters and bring in Alphen and Therion so I can go around, chat everybody up and steal from everyone. And once I've done that to the new town, I go put my party back together and then actually do stuff in town and move on. Story.
21:58 --> 22:00 I've had my feel of this town.
22:01 --> 22:08 Literally. You drag those two with you in your pocket to steal and sweet talk the entire town. That's all you use them for.
22:08 --> 22:13 Yeah, yeah, that's what I do. If, if there's something I really want that I can't steal, I see if Tressa can buy it.
22:14 --> 22:17 Hey, Face and Murdoch, go do your thing.
22:17 --> 22:24 Yeah, yeah. We had these two just rob all the kids of candy, talk us up, then left the town.
22:25 --> 22:28 It's Face and Mad Murdoch, man. I'm telling you.
22:28 --> 22:38 So when that happens, you're the way you're playing it. And then you go back eventually to do the other four. Will they have nothing to do in towns or do they have different towns, like, I don't recall.
22:39 --> 22:58 There will still be stuff to do in towns, probably just because, like, I can't buy everything either. Some things are just absurdly expensive and, you know, like a 3 to 15% chance to steal is not something I want to chance because you can lose reputation in town and then you have to pay to fix it if you, you know, get docked five points.
22:58 --> 22:58 Right.
23:00 --> 23:26 So, yeah, there will be stuff to steal and stuff to do again later. Probably not chatting people up, but side quests, stealing, things like that. Because as you progress when you chat people up, some people will teach you, you know, tips and tricks on stealing or tips and tricks on being a better merchant. So you get better deals on bartering or stuff like that.
23:26 --> 23:30 Like, thought you were going to say a better person and I was like, shit, I need to figure that out.
23:31 --> 23:38 No, but you'll, you'll come across NPCs who just give you a bonus to certain skill sets for different characters.
23:39 --> 23:40 That's fair.
23:40 --> 23:53 And so that'll improve how well they do with whatever they're doing. So sometimes it'll be like you have advantage on challenging people in town or you have advantage on dueling with Hannet instead of.
23:55 --> 24:28 Ulberich or whatever. So you just, you get different little bonuses depending on the town and things going on. I honestly cheesed it a little bit and went through a really high level area to another high level town and bought a really nice weapon that was a staff. And so Ophelia the healer, the cleric is whacking things just as hard as Ulberich the warrior when she's seven levels below him, because she's got such a nice staff that I bought Nice.
24:28 --> 24:31 So sometimes you got to cheese it. That's how you do it.
24:31 --> 24:31 Yep.
24:31 --> 24:34 I'm. I'm having fun with this game, the way I'm playing it. For sure.
24:35 --> 24:44 I was. When you said you're playing, I wasn't sure because, like, I. I didn't really dig it, and I really thought I would. So I'm glad you're enjoying it. Makes me want to also give it another shot. That's good.
24:44 --> 24:48 Yeah. I picked this up, I think it was last Christmas. I think we all talked about.
24:48 --> 24:55 Yeah. Because I had already had it. And you two were like, we're gonna play this. And I was like, I'll join on. And I like, good fucking luck.
24:55 --> 25:00 Yeah. And I. I have to admit, I played for a few hours and bounced off. I mean.
25:02 --> 25:04 Who did you pick? Do you remember?
25:05 --> 25:06 Oh, it was Primrose.
25:07 --> 25:07 Oh, okay.
25:08 --> 25:15 Yeah, I definitely remember. It was the dancer that was, like, working for the fucking creepy ass dude.
25:15 --> 25:17 Yeah. Go pleasure yourself, she says.
25:18 --> 25:20 Oh, yeah. Just. I was like.
25:21 --> 25:24 Damn, I need an adult. I need an adult.
25:26 --> 25:27 Yeah.
25:27 --> 25:32 It's a surprisingly mature and dark storyline, but, yeah, exceptionally. Yeah.
25:32 --> 25:32 Yeah.
25:32 --> 25:33 All right.
25:33 --> 25:34 So anything else for Octopath?
25:37 --> 25:58 No, I'm just looking forward to getting through this game and beating it. And I've. I think I've kind of given up on trying to min max and get every single treasure in the game because going back and redoing dungeons is. Yeah, I've done it a couple of times and it's more a chore than it's worth. So, yeah, I think it's just go through the game as I go and hopefully I don't miss a dungeon.
25:58 --> 26:10 I feel like that's the theme for a lot of stuff I've done this year where you're playing games, and on the one hand, I would love to see everything a game has to offer, but I don't have the time. It takes too long.
26:12 --> 26:16 We might have a moment that we talk about that when Chard talks about his game.
26:17 --> 26:20 So. So, yeah, if it's the game I'm.
26:20 --> 26:23 Thinking of, it doesn't honor your time at all.
26:24 --> 26:28 Oh, Jesus. Your time. I thought it was fine. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
26:28 --> 26:31 Did you get the end story? Was that a great end story?
26:31 --> 26:32 Anyway, none of them are good.
26:33 --> 26:36 We'll get there. Did it make any sense? Anyway, we'll get there.
26:36 --> 26:38 They're never good endings in those games.
26:38 --> 26:39 Japanese.
26:40 --> 26:47 Well, as we move around from the. From the salad to the soup. So, Chard, go ahead. Let's do you next.
26:48 --> 26:49 Glad I'm the second course.
26:52 --> 27:05 So, yeah, actually I've been playing a couple games, but I'll talk about one of them now, which I finished not too long ago. The other one I haven't finished, but I would like to discuss at some point. But a couple of weeks ago, I finished up Silent Hill F, which is, I'm sure the game that Sinistar was talking about.
27:06 --> 27:10 Did you. Did you finish it? I did because I didn't seem to get an end story.
27:11 --> 27:13 Did you get a bad ending? Is that what it was? The shitty.
27:13 --> 27:13 No.
27:13 --> 27:14 Every.
27:14 --> 27:25 Every time you finish the game, the first time you play it, you get the same ending. And then there's multiple endings to replay the game. You get multiple endings. And there's any other Silent Hill game that has multiple endings, it's just.
27:25 --> 27:33 Yeah, there is literally one ending that says you have to get at least two prior endings. This game does not honor your time.
27:33 --> 27:35 I disagree. I disagree. But that's.
27:35 --> 27:38 Go play this game three times and then get.
27:38 --> 27:42 I started it up again. I've been playing it in my own time on my Steam deck.
27:43 --> 27:53 I think that's been around since Silent Hill 2 or 3, where you had one of the ending where at least one or two of the endings require you beating the game at least twice to get them.
27:53 --> 28:02 Yeah, I just. I watched the ending of the. The. The one ending you're guaranteed to get, and I was like, it's a mess. Was that a story?
28:03 --> 28:03 Well, shit.
28:03 --> 28:05 I mean, you play Silent Hill 1.
28:05 --> 28:07 Yeah. Silent Hill 1's ending.
28:07 --> 28:09 That ending made no sense.
28:09 --> 28:16 To be fair, Sinistar watched me play 4000 hours of silent H. So he probably knows that game pretty good.
28:16 --> 28:18 I do. I do, actually. Yeah.
28:19 --> 29:34 So. No, yeah, no, that. Because if you don't know to go find Dr. Kaufman and do all that extra, you get like a. What the is this ending? So you have to discover all that stuff. But this game, the ending you get in Silent Hill F at the very. The very first playthrough is guaranteed. There's nothing you could do to change it. You can't go in another route. While Sinistar thinks this is a pain in the butt, I actually think it's very clever because when you fire up the game the second time to play through all the cutscenes that you had at the beginning of the game, have more dialogue and more things Attached to it. It's not just an aha. I played this. Oh, that's what they meant by that kind of thing. They actually kind of feed you more information as to what the fuck everything is doing. And as you progress, the story like unfolds. And you can make different decisions in later in the game to like get different endings that you can have. Because I think unlike just like every other Silent Hill out there, there's like five endings that you can eventually get or somehow you can get doing different playthroughs and different things. And it actually extends to like the, like a boss fight that we fought at the end of the game that you watched me do. Sinistar. You can get like three different ones that take you in a different direction and you don't fight that.
29:34 --> 29:44 I understand. I'm just saying why not make one story instead of saying start over, oh, guess what? You get a little extra this time. Start over. Oh, you get a little extra.
29:44 --> 29:47 It's called replay value. And it has it.
29:47 --> 29:49 He didn't want to make a full game.
29:49 --> 29:56 That's new game plus automata is like that right near automata is 26 endings or something stupid in that game.
29:56 --> 30:25 Huge proponent. But the difference between Nier Automata and we've discussed this in private is that you get to play as different characters and see the game through their eyes versus playing it again as the main character and seeing it through her eyes, but a different understanding. Like, I think the. The premise was really cool because once I once I kind of. I deep dove it because I was like, I don't have time to fire it up and play it again. I'm gonna play it on my own time, but I kind of want to see what their hell they're talking about. And I mean, it's very much lodged in, you know.
30:28 --> 30:34 People marrying their children off to other people and getting betrothed and. Yeah, and all this other stuff, you know, 1960s Japanese.
30:34 --> 30:35 The story is. Is wild.
30:35 --> 30:56 The story totally wild. And. And I'll tell you that, you know, they. They took because they, you know, Japan did the western horror thing for all the other Silent Hill stuff. And there's. There's kind of a funny joke where it's like the cop at the. In Silent Hill one just gives James a gun or Harry a gun. Like they just hand out guns to people all over the world.
30:59 --> 31:00 Clearly.
31:00 --> 31:03 Like, when you think about it, you're like, oh, he's just handing.
31:03 --> 31:03 She.
31:03 --> 31:05 It's a cop. He's just giving you a gun. It's Fine.
31:05 --> 31:07 Well, that's just. That's just America, my friend.
31:07 --> 31:13 Yeah, yeah, exactly. You sign your papers, you get converted to citizen, and they give you a gun.
31:13 --> 31:15 On a background check.
31:16 --> 31:17 You get a gun.
31:18 --> 31:18 Come on.
31:19 --> 32:26 But, but, you know, so there's no, there's no, there's no guns in Silent Hill. F. It's all, you know, combat with pipes and, and knives and this, that and the other. And it's. It's just like the. The main city is, you know, it is their version of Silent Hill. Like, I actually think that somebody told me Lazarus told me. Like, the actual translation of the city name, which I can't pronounce I will not butcher on this channel, is, is basically like Silent Hill in Japanese. Like the kanji. When the kanji is written out, it says Silent Hill. But it's in, you know, Japanese or whatever or Barbarian Hill or something like that is what it actually translated out to. And, you know, you're a. You're a what? I think she's 17 or 18 year old girl. It's like getting out of high school. They're all wearing the same uniforms and then starts going crazy. And you know, they use the Japanese horror style of. Of beauty and grotesqueness. So everything's got flowers growing off their faces, but it's like, it's horrifyingly beautiful. It's the best way to describe it. It's crazy.
32:26 --> 32:26 Yeah.
32:27 --> 32:32 And the story, the story where the, the fox mask dude is involved.
32:32 --> 32:36 Yeah. And getting you cut off your own arm.
32:36 --> 32:40 Oh, my God. That was spoilers. But there's some shit.
32:42 --> 32:42 Close enough.
32:42 --> 32:44 It's not Ethan's poor hand, it's.
32:44 --> 32:44 Yeah.
32:45 --> 32:46 What's her name?
32:46 --> 32:50 No, this is literally instead of Ethan putting the thing on his hand to heal it.
32:50 --> 32:50 Yeah.
32:50 --> 32:52 No, you're given a knife and said.
32:52 --> 32:54 You need to call your own arm off.
32:54 --> 32:56 Basically, you need to remove that limb.
32:56 --> 33:13 But do it for your God, not because you're in trouble. Do it because your God is asking you to do this. But she doesn't. And I'll tell you what, bro, the sound design in this game had me cringing when she's sawing her arm off with the.
33:13 --> 33:15 Oh, yeah, lots of. Lots of, lots of macaroni.
33:15 --> 33:22 A lot of macaroni and crunchy noises that you would not anticipate to hear from a video game of this caliber. It was holy insane.
33:22 --> 33:27 And that's why it's gonna win a game award for sound design for the macaroni hand crunching noises as you saw it off.
33:27 --> 33:31 Yeah. Macaroni sounds win game awards everywhere.
33:31 --> 33:31 Everywhere.
33:31 --> 33:50 It's, it's crazy. The music's beautiful. Of course, it's Akira Yakimoto, Yakima Yakomo, who I love, who does all of the Silent Hill music. I think most of it, maybe not every single game, but he was one of the team Silent people that continue to still write music for Silent Hill progressing and it's very much rooted in that Japanese style, so.
33:50 --> 33:51 Movie scores too.
33:51 --> 34:25 He did, he did, he did those and I think he did Revelations. I don't know if he did any of the earlier ones, but he did the medium too. He did the music for the medium. I mean he's, he's all over the place in the, in the horror, the horror aspect. But the music is killer. I absolutely love the tracks that he plays for that. The story is really good. It's dark, it's twisted. It's, it's Silent Hill. It's, it's Silent Hill. You know, things are coming alive and you're fighting these weird lady dolls with knives and they bend and weird, weird.
34:26 --> 34:27 Weird dog like dudes.
34:27 --> 35:44 Yeah, the dogs and the monkeys and, and all of them. And when you're trying like I had to go look because, you know, we always love to think that when you're, when you play a Silent Hill game all the creatures are supposed to be like about the person's psyche or you know, whoever's thinking about it. And, and I had to read some of like what the is this monkey dude? And apparently he's like supposed to be like gross disgusting men that run around the town or something like that. That's why he licks her when they grabs him. Something like the dude, like it's, it's very cringy and it's very, I can understand like why there's a few trigger warnings, you know, nowadays for this type of game because it definitely has that, that feel to it. I thought it was great. I didn't think it was game of the year. I don't think it's the greatest Silent Hill game that ever played. But with, with Silent Hill 2 getting the remake and, and then Silent Hill left coming out after that. Then we have Talentfall coming out and then Silent Hill 1's getting the remake. There's like a renaissance in one of my favorite all time favorite gaming franchises. And it's really made me fall back in love with Silent Hill and the, and the stories and how it's designed and how it, how it's doing its thing. And I think they did a fantastic job with it. So I would recommend. I've already beaten it. So if you're going to ask me if I'm going to play it, I might play it again because I'm interested to see how that. How, since.
35:44 --> 35:45 That's right. Are you going to play it more?
35:46 --> 35:51 Yeah, there's. There's an ending. There's an ending that you have to get at least two prior endings. Are you going to go do that one?
35:51 --> 35:55 Yes, I am. I mean, listen, if it changes, if it changes in a lot.
35:57 --> 35:59 Is it a legitimate go. Go ahead, Wolf.
35:59 --> 36:03 Is it a legitimate content ending or is it a silly ending?
36:03 --> 36:10 No, it's a legitimate. It's a fucked up ending. It's. It's like. It's not the dog ending. There is. There is an alien ending in there somewhere.
36:10 --> 36:12 Oh, they wouldn't be a Silent Hill if it wasn't.
36:12 --> 36:14 No, it's not a silent. You got to have the skinless knife.
36:14 --> 36:20 Wielding babies and aliens and. Or dogs is pretty much the Silent Hill. I was going to ask if his connection to the franchise or if he's.
36:20 --> 37:16 A standalone, but yeah, definitely, there is definitely a goofy ending hidden in there somewhere, which I think much like Silent Hill one, you have to do a couple endings to unlock the things to go find the other endings. But that there, there's definitely. If, if they didn't have like a different boss battle or the, the scenery didn't change a little bit, then I could definitely be like, no, this. I'm just, I'm just getting innings at this point. But with the added content and the added things that you can go and do, I think to me that that makes it worth it. It's a lot like Near Automata where you're getting, not only you're getting more endings, but you're seeing it from other perspectives and you're seeing some other things. And I, I think that's a cool concept that definitely brings somebody like me back. I enjoyed it enough that I would do it again. Like I was. It wasn't Dead Spacer or Silent Hill 2 remake where I was like, I'm gonna play this immediately after I'm done beating it. But it certainly goes. That's going to be an itch that I'm going to need to scratch here and maybe a couple months.
37:17 --> 37:34 All right, cool. Silent Hill F. Yeah, I wish I liked the horror games, man, but what I watched, if you play it, that's a bit too gory for me. It is definitely, definitely a style and it commits to that genre really well. And I find it more disturbing than the Silent Hill remake you played last year. Or was it?
37:34 --> 37:35 Oh, I think. I think this is the.
37:36 --> 37:39 This one's viscerally way more grotesque. Yes.
37:39 --> 37:49 Like. Yeah, viscerally grotesque for. For sure. Like, honestly, the arm cutting off is kind of one of the easiest parts to stomach.
37:49 --> 37:50 Yeah.
37:50 --> 37:53 Of. Of like some of the other parts. Like it. Yeah.
37:53 --> 38:56 There's a lot of crunching and a lot of macaroni noises. And you usually. When you get that with like, Silent Hill 2, it's something in the background or it's something hanging or walking around or whatever, and you're like, cool, whatever. But this is like happening to. This is like the first thing where it's like Resident Evil where it's happening to you, your character. Like a lot of the shit that happens to Ethan. We joke about Ethan's hands, but getting hung from hooks, getting his arm cut off. Like all that stuff. You're like, oh, my God. Like, it's probably what makes Resident Evil 7 and 8 so, like, good in my eyes. Because it's not happening around you. It is happening to. To you. And this is the first time, like in A Silent Hill that wasn't just purely psychologically with your head. Like, it's. It's happening. Like you're cutting your face off. Like it's happening. Okay, why is this happening? Like, it's crazy. And. And it was. Some of the stuff was kind of like, oh, I don't know if I should be streaming this. This may not be something I should be like. I thought about it for a couple times. I'm like, this is pretty rough.
38:56 --> 39:07 Well, much like cutting your face off and peeling the skin away from the flesh, we do that with the. The dinner. The turkey for the main course ceiling. You want to give us your main course game?
39:09 --> 39:10 My main course game.
39:10 --> 39:14 I'm going to make the soup the nuts title work. God damn it. I love it.
39:14 --> 39:15 All right, all right.
39:15 --> 39:16 Well, my Thanksgiving.
39:16 --> 39:24 Yes. My main course. So little pre spoiler for an episode later. Either this year or early next year.
39:26 --> 39:45 I have been in search of a game of the year for myself and I am currently playing. I started it. I actually started it like a week ago, but I've given it the time of day yesterday and today. But That's Space Marine 2. Warhammer 40K. Space Marine 2.
39:47 --> 40:04 And honestly, I'm surprised it took me this long to get to it. Well, and it's because I love the first one. Space Marine one was epically good. It is. It is probably. It is easily in my top 10 games.
40:07 --> 40:11 And it's epically good. The problem is, is When Space Marine 2 came out.
40:13 --> 40:19 Some of the, you know, reviews I read were, this is a different game. Yeah. And I was like.
40:20 --> 41:04 I don't. I don't know that I want to. I don't know that I want to taint my, my experience with Space Marine one. Space Marine one, to me, just real quick is when you're playing Doom and you get that quad damage and basically like the music spins up and it is all about just wrecking face. Just. Just go nuts and wreck face. That's really what Space Marine was like. Is soup to nuts a badass power fantasy, Right? Yeah. Yeah. It's just. You're a Space Marine. You're overpowered, you're. I mean, it's not like you can't get taken down, but it's like, imagine if like you're an Avenger. Like, how hard is it to take down an Avenger? Right.
41:04 --> 41:04 Right.
41:06 --> 41:06 So.
41:09 --> 41:15 Anyway, it went on sale. Space Marine 2 went on sale. I picked it up. I've been playing it. It is not the same game.
41:17 --> 41:41 But it's not far off. Like, when I initially started playing it, I'm like, this isn't the same game. And now that I've been playing it more, I'm kind of like, it's definitely a spiritual successor to that, to that kind of idea. It's a little bit more. A little bit, or I guess it's a little bit less. Just dive in and just smash, smash, grind and cut your way through everything.
41:41 --> 41:42 Right.
41:42 --> 41:56 You have to think things through a little bit here. But it definitely has that. It has the finishing moves, which of course, you know, depending on your weapon. The chainsword. Right. I mean, right. Chainsaw people chainsaw. So.
41:58 --> 42:03 And then I know Wolf, you watch some of it and Jake, you watch some of it today.
42:05 --> 42:09 Visually stunning game. Absolutely stunning.
42:10 --> 42:43 So, like those backgrounds, like the, the scene I watched you play where you're. It's an, it's an outdoor area and I said, I said to you, but privately, where it's like, I feel like any other developer would have cheaped out and kept a Space Marine game indoors or in a ship or in corridors. But no, not, not this dev. Like, the environments are huge. The flying bat, like lizard creatures are just filling the screen. There's so much going on. It is, it is one of the best looking games I've seen all year. Like, it's a very pretty game and also grossly violent. Oh, really bloody.
42:43 --> 42:44 Which is kind of what you want.
42:44 --> 42:45 Right in this game.
42:45 --> 43:29 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it has this mechanism. They're little quick time events where like a blue circle will pop up or an orangered circle will pop up. And depending on those, if it's a blue circle, you can hit your parry button and you will do things like you'll grab it as it's coming for you by its tail and just like smash the thing into the ground by its tail. Or if it's the orange, it's basically like your best option is only to dodge, which then you have to hit a different button. It's not your parry button anymore. And I'll be honest with you, for me, at 50, that's a little bit like, what do I. Oh, I'm fucked. Never mind. Which, which, but. Oh, never mind.
43:30 --> 43:33 Like, gotta be quicker. Gotta be the quicker quick time event.
43:33 --> 44:03 Exactly, exactly. Oh, and then the other one that I love. And I think you guys saw this a little bit as you're beating the shit out of things. Every once in a while you'll get a little target on something. Just a little like red target on something. And you left. You hold your left trigger, which is your aim your gun button, and you pull your right trigger and it does a quick headshot death for that thing at just like viscerally up close. Just, you know, Anyway. Yeah, yeah.
44:05 --> 44:14 There was a point I was watching him where he was just in the jungle and all these creatures rushed him. And afterward he was basically in a pond of blood.
44:16 --> 44:18 That's awesome. I gotta see this one.
44:19 --> 44:33 The sequence I saw you play, it was. It was dark, but there's like brief flashes of gunfire, but you could see the buckets of blood flying in the darkness. Like it was visually out of a Tarantino movie. It reminded me of Kill Bill if, you know, the Bride wore power armor or something.
44:34 --> 44:42 Yeah, yeah. There was a part where you. You have to like start a reactor or something. Right. And when you pull the trigger, everything goes dark.
44:42 --> 44:43 Yeah.
44:43 --> 45:04 Or you like when you pull the. When you flip the button, everything goes dark. And then of course you get bum rushed. And. Yeah, as you said, it's like I have no idea what's around me. So I'm literally button mashing. I'm just button mashing. And you see like silhouette every once in a while of you and your chain sword and then you just see like blood just fly everywhere. It's just.
45:04 --> 45:11 I think the concept of lighting up the room with the muzzle flash is fucking cool. I would be all about that. Yeah, that's a pretty Cool concept.
45:12 --> 45:27 Yeah. So. And of course it has. I haven't gotten to the, to the hammer yet. That's actually like my favorite weapon in the first Space Marine is the hammer. But I've gotten the chainsword, I've gotten the power sword. And they have their own finishers. It's really cool.
45:28 --> 45:28 Nice.
45:29 --> 46:16 The story is, is definitely interesting so far. It's not complex. Like, real quick, I'm just gonna go through like the intro, which is, it's one of those where it's like an hour long intro that you're playing, right? You get this thing done and like you, you're. You go to this planet. It's, it's infested with all of the, you know, the xenos and everything. And your whole goal is to ignite this, this airborne virus bomb to like attack all of the, all of the xenos. And you do it and you're like, cool. And then it goes cuts, it cuts to black and goes Space Marine too. Like, you know, so you're like, okay. And it's. I mean, the whole thing is training you how to play the game.
46:16 --> 46:17 Right, right, right, yeah.
46:18 --> 46:21 But basically at the end of that, your character dies.
46:22 --> 46:23 Which is pretty common.
46:23 --> 46:26 I would assume, in most war things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:26 --> 46:57 So. And then basically the real game starts and the story isn't complex, obviously, even though you died, there's a way that you keep playing the game. And there's of course, you know, a movement inside the, you know, the human organization that's like doing questionable things. And you're kind of finding that out as you go. Right. And so it's not a complex. It's not a complex. But nothing really in Warhammer has to be complex, right?
46:57 --> 47:03 It's like, yeah, keep it visceral, keep it powerful. Yeah, keep it basic.
47:03 --> 47:12 And it's Warhammer 40K. And I just, I love that. I love that universe as much as I know it, which is, is like this much out of, you know, because.
47:12 --> 47:16 That'S a huge universe, you know, Henry Cavill. But we get it.
47:16 --> 47:27 Yeah, yeah, but I kind of like, I like Warhammer. The original. It's, it's good, but it's, it's just fantasy. It's also what Warcraft ripped off, right? It's orcs and humans and whatnot.
47:29 --> 47:47 But Warhammer 40K is kind of like 40 years in the future. So there's a lot of technological advances, but then there's also been this like, movement to like. It's very religious. It's very like, you know, Orthodox. Everything is orthodox. It's. It's for the, you know, anyway.
47:47 --> 48:36 Like, yeah, the immortal God king on a throne and. And like the priests who are the ones who replace the power cores on ships, but they carry coffins and they. They take radiation damage, but it's a holy thing. Like, I. I never got into the tabletop or the books. I've always thought to, but there's so many of them. But I fell into a trap of liking a video on Tick Tock about the lore of Warhammer 40K. So for the next like three weeks, that's all I got fed to me was videos. But lore and it's all cool shit. Like, the world building is very unique and there's very few dark, gritty, religious power armor worlds that I know of. This is like, the only one. And it's very fascinating. I think the game is something I would like to check out, but I think I would stay away from the books myself. But it's very. It looks very faithful to the material and I've heard it is, so it's pretty cool.
48:37 --> 48:37 Nice.
48:37 --> 48:41 Well, I would highly suggest playing one first. Anyway. Go ahead.
48:41 --> 48:49 I had a question for Sinistar while he was playing earlier. I asked him if it was the same main character as the first game. I just looked it up. It looks like it is.
48:49 --> 49:01 Okay. As I said, it's. Well, as I told you, I'll say to the podcast, it's been a while, so. It's been a while I played that. That was one of the first games I streamed when I was doing game streaming at sinistar77.
49:03 --> 49:06 And so that's been. I mean, that was pre pandemic for sure.
49:08 --> 49:11 Probably 2018. Ish, right?
49:11 --> 49:12 Yeah.
49:12 --> 49:25 And so. And I mean, honestly, like, that story was also very simple. It was really just about going in and just murder, death, kill. Right. And like at the end you're like, I killed everybody. Done.
49:25 --> 49:25 Yeah.
49:25 --> 49:26 Kill, Crush, Destroy. Done.
49:26 --> 49:27 Kill. Yeah.
49:27 --> 49:28 Yeah.
49:28 --> 50:10 Well, cool. So, yeah, Space Marine 2 looks really rad. That was one of the games I almost pulled the trigger on, I think when it came out. It was around the time I was playing Helldivers 2 and I had heard that the online. The online co op in. In Space Marine 2 was really rad. But I. I didn't pull the trigger because I heard it didn't have as many missions, although I think they've done a lot of updates over the last year that really improve the number of variety of missions you can do. But there's a lot of cosmetic options. You can unlock in the game for free for the online colors and all kinds of crazy stuff. I've seen a lot of people who stream it got really into the. The mythos and like, you're calling your squad mates brother because it's like, brother, you know, brother, brother. It's just. It's a thing. It looked really fun, bro.
50:10 --> 50:11 Send here.
50:11 --> 50:12 It really looked into it.
50:12 --> 50:12 Yeah, exactly.
50:13 --> 50:26 My. My nephew bought space Marine too, and he, like, ate it up. He was totally enthralled by. He was like, you gonna buy it? You'll buy it so we can play together. It's like.
50:27 --> 50:35 Well, that's the thing is when I first jumped into it, like at the bottom, you get the little like, loading bar, but instead of just a regular loading bar, it tells you the things it's doing.
50:35 --> 50:36 Yeah.
50:36 --> 51:02 And one of the things is like, connecting to server and I'm like, I'm playing a singer. Single player game. Yeah, no, apparently just so that you can like, kind of transition from like single player to co op, like without much. It's basically the same system and you just. Yeah, that's cool. It would be cool to play because you have, you know, you have a squad. Right. And so the. The computer is playing my squad mates right now.
51:02 --> 51:04 Press. Press brother to cancel.
51:05 --> 51:07 Press brother to cancel.
51:09 --> 51:09 Cool.
51:09 --> 51:17 Yeah, it's definitely one to check out. All right. I guess my pick. Are we gonna do a second pick or are we just gonna do one picture?
51:18 --> 51:18 Nuts.
51:19 --> 51:19 Yeah.
51:21 --> 51:22 You'Re nuts, my friend.
51:22 --> 51:28 I mean, if we wanna. I would love to talk about my second game, but if we want to keep to the mythos of the soup.
51:28 --> 51:33 Tonight or just keep it really. Maybe I'll do the second pick really quick for anybody who's an honorable mention, I guess.
51:33 --> 51:36 Yeah, we. I think. I think the second pick we have to keep a lot shorter.
51:36 --> 54:23 Okay. So, yeah, I'm gonna go with my pick because I know chart you've been playing the earlier one, the franchise. I've been playing Kingdom Come, Deliverance two. I don't know if there's any other. Anything else that subtitle. It's a long title. This game is not what I expected. It is definitely nuts. So there's your soup. To nuts. I did not play the first game. I kind of ignored it and I honestly. I kind of ignored the second game. And then I saw that it got nominated for a game award. I've seen nothing but good things. It surprised the hell out of me when it got like a 92 on open critic because we have a fantasy critic for our group and how well it did there. And I'm just like what? What kind of. I didn't realize what it was. I thought it was like an action game, A third party action game at most. I didn't realize it was a. It was a. It's an rpg. It's a whole ass medieval simulation slash RPG and it's pretty in depth what it does you basically it's. You don't create your character. You basically play the character of Henry who's basically. You can mold him into different personalities but he's basically him and his partner Hans are kind of on a. On a mission for his town. I don't want to give way too many spoilers and just it just a haphazard tumble of events. You basically end up destitute and like a beggar and you have to kind of build yourself up as you try and complete your mission. The story is incredibly compelling and that is not what I expected. I thought this was just a very shallow action game. I thought it was like. Was it Banner Lords Mountain Blade or something? I thought like a more tactical action game. Yeah maybe at most maybe like a souls like game. But it's not that at all. It's very much an RPG and that you have inventory, you have stats, you have weight limits, you have hunger meter. And to get in depth with the stats like the equipment you wear, like it's in the simulation side is. Is wild. When you want to equip like heavy armor. Well if you want to wear a helmet, well then you need a padded cough to go over underneath it. I'm probably saying these wrong. If you want to wear the armor, the pleat you need the protective undercover and that's all individuals item slots. And the more you put on, of course the stats change and you have stats like how noisy you are, how conspicuous you are. Right. So how, how visible you are to people around you, how noticeable you are. So if you wear certain outfits that are out of place around you, that's a stat. Right. If you wear like vagrant boots, well then you're going to be treated less of a. Less of a. Of a character compared to somebody who's wearing really nice traveling fine gear. Like the. The first quest basically in the game is to basically crash a wedding. And before you can even go to that wedding you have to find fancy enough clothes. Clothes with enough charisma points in it. Like everything has stats. So you think medieval, medieval rpg, but it's. It's very medieval. Like it takes place in a real place it's not fictional. It takes place in the country of Bohemia in medieval times. I think that's Czechoslovakia, if I'm not wrong.
54:23 --> 54:24 Yeah, yeah, I think so.
54:25 --> 54:44 There's characters you interact with that are actually from historical, you know, records. I mean, I'm sure it's a lot of fiction here, but it's, it's grounded very much in medieval times. There's no freaking magic. There's no dragons. It is medieval combat, pure and simple. And like, I mean the closest you get to magic is there's a little bit of alchemy where you can make potions and.
54:44 --> 54:47 Yeah, right. And you're. It doesn't change anything.
54:47 --> 55:52 You're magically do much. Yeah. But it's. It's makes you sleepy. But very much a simulation game. It almost feels like when I started playing it, it almost felt like a hardcore Skyrim. And that in Skyrim when you're on a map, you can kind of see far off in the distance and you can realize, oh, I can go there. It's very much the same in this game. If you, you look off the distance, you can go pretty much wherever you want. It's very wide open game. Lots of side quests. The side quests are very remind me very much of Witcher 3 in a lot of ways. And that there's multiple steps to them. There's no slay three bandits style quests there. Everything has plot between the quests and then sweep together really well. It's a very in depth game. It's also a game you could easily get lost in. I think I spent 30 hours just trying to crash that wedding because I. I got well, I'm. Wow. I'm gonna smith some weapons and arm not armor weapons. I'm gonna make horseshoes for the next two hours. Because you get stats from doing things right. The more you smith, the more strength goes up. The more you shoot bows and archery competitions, the more money you get. But the more, you know, agility you get and also strength. So like everything you do in the game affects your stats and I really want to get to a place where I could use.
55:55 --> 57:20 Axes and like club maces. So heavier weapons. Because the combat in this game is very, is very hard to grasp. I'm not good at video games. I don't pretend to be. And I found the comment this was the hardest thing, but it's neat and it's very, it's very unique in that if you equip a sword on Henry and you have a sword, you'll on your reticle you'll see. I think it's five directions and when you're swinging the sword, you have to pick the direction the blade swings. When the enemy attacks you, they're doing the same thing. And when you want to deflect it, you have to pick the same angle to deflect it. And there's defense, windows, parries, reposts, the whole nine yards. It's a very in depth combat system and it almost put me off at first, but you kind of learn to love it the more you play it. But what made it really fun for me is I, I realized that when you use the axes and the maces, they're not as. There's not a. They're not as refined as the sword play in this game. They're more, they're more simple. There's only three directions for ax swings so it's an easier combat. Right. So like when I run into com. Yeah. When I run into combat with my, with a war pick and I just do the overhead swing, I'm just braining people and that's, that's fun. It's great. Combat is, is very visceral. It's not one on one. In fact, most of the time in combat there's usually three to five dudes coming at you and just trying to manage combat and keep your distance, keep your stamina up and fighting. It's just freaking awesome.
57:20 --> 57:29 It's Jake, I'm gonna. I have an idea here and hear me out before you dismiss it. But have you, have you, have you thought about a chainsword?
57:30 --> 57:33 No, sadly there's no chain sword. That could be a mod that could be added.
57:33 --> 57:35 We're 40k years before.
57:36 --> 57:37 Yeah.
57:37 --> 57:59 Historical accuracy. Did they have chain swords in ancient Bohemia? I don't know. Know. So I know. Char, you've been playing the first game. So I've been playing this. I just jumped in the sequel. I got a deal on it. So I was playing that and I don't feel like I missed anything. It's the same main character from the first game and it does catch you up plot wise with what happened the first game enough that I felt fine. But how did you like the first one? Because you played a lot of that.
58:00 --> 58:08 I've been. Yeah, it says 64 hours. But to be fair, I've been playing it on my Steam deck and sometimes I turn my steam deck off and leave it on on my PC.
58:08 --> 58:09 Right.
58:09 --> 58:27 So because it's, you know, I'm doing the moonlight to sunlight things. So sometimes I leave my PC on all Night and I forget that I, I didn't quit the game. So I've. I've also probably got about roughly 30 hours. It could be more because I actually as I was playing this game, I was like Jake, I wanted to get better at stuff because.
58:28 --> 58:40 It doesn't. I mean the difficulty spike is there. It's difficult. This game is not just hack and slash. There is like Jake said, but where there's. Sounds like there's some quality life improvements to two.
58:40 --> 58:41 Yeah.
58:41 --> 58:46 When you have a mace, you still have the five pointed star to attach.
58:46 --> 58:47 Okay.
58:47 --> 59:17 Yeah. But as you know, I played it on keyboard and mouse, which is fun because you can move the mouse where you want your arm to go for hacking and slashing. It's a little difficult, but it's. Now that I'm used to it on the Steam deck with the different controllers, it works pretty well. But I, I have spent hours fighting the training guy. Like I spent all bunch of times I wanted to get good at fighting because you have like, you're an. You're an idiot. I mean, you're not an idiot, but you're not.
59:18 --> 59:18 You're lovable.
59:19 --> 01:00:24 Yeah, he's. He. Yeah, he's a. He's a. He's a blacksmith's kid. Like, but he doesn't. Like, I haven't found blacksmithing in my game yet. I don't know if I have to unlock it or what, but I know I'm the blacksmith son, so I know somewhere it has to be in there. But I mean, shit, you could spend the first 40 hours of this game literally just going to the bar and getting drunk and then street fighting people in the street and not do anything. Like, you don't have to accomplish anything. You could just find a pot of stew, eat that to get your health back up, go fight someone in the street because you're pissed off at him and then go drink in the tavern and then go to sleep and do it again. Like, nothing is pushing you to like continue on with your life except for your own, like drive to do it. It's. It's insane. I spent time. I was lock picking everything because I wanted to get better lock picking. And it does actually make things. Like the more you do stuff, the better you get at it and you feel it. Like when I played the game, even drinking is a stat. Yeah. You get like charisma bonuses for getting drunk and talking to people.
01:00:25 --> 01:00:25 Yeah.
01:00:25 --> 01:00:46 Because you're drunk and you're less. Like there's no inhibition, you know, It's. Yeah, exactly. You're just like you're. You can charm people better when you're hammered from time to time. Like the different aspects. And Jake's right. If you go out and you're rolling in the mud or you, you know, get into a fight, you're covered in blood, and you go into town and you talk to people, they treat you different.
01:00:47 --> 01:00:47 Yeah.
01:00:47 --> 01:01:16 They're like, what the wrong with you? I'm talking to you. You're covered in blood. Get the out of here. Or you stink. Like, you can get stats and perks that it's. It's like, it's called manly odor or something. And the worse you smell, the more people are attracted to you because you're a harder worker. But the negative is that people can smell you from a mile away. So you can't sneak up on people because, like, yeah, it's like, it's shit like that. Like, it's really clever.
01:01:16 --> 01:01:18 It's literally shit like that.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:39 It's crazy. Like, I've watched. I've watched some other streamers play it, and they were just fucking around. They're, like, fighting some guy bar, and they keep losing because they're not good at fighting. So they go sleep off their hangover and then they go back to the bar and try to fight the guy again. And it's just this back and forth thing, and it's. It's really entertaining, this. But as I continue this, I have to.
01:01:39 --> 01:01:48 I have to do a quick aside here. The thing I thought of was. Who's that? I don't know. Must be a king. Well, how can you tell? Hasn't got shit all over him.
01:01:48 --> 01:02:16 Exactly. So. But, you know, you get to the tailors and you can get nice clothing. Like Jake said, you can find scribes and they teach you how to read so you can read and then learn how to do alchemy through reading books. Like, when you open a book right now, it's just caricatures. It's. It's just. I don't know what any of this says. And it's English. It's written in English, but I don't. I can't read. So I'm trying to find someone to teach me how to read.
01:02:16 --> 01:02:38 Second game. He already knows how to read. And, like, he. He references that. That he didn't know how to read, but now he's, like, all worldly and he. He knows how to read books. I've been working on the scholarship stat, but the fact that he already knows how to read, but he references. Oh, yeah, I didn't know how before I learned like he. Yeah, like you learned. There's depth to that character that I wasn't expecting. Like the vo, the voice actor is great. Very much a lovable O. Yeah, really good.
01:02:38 --> 01:03:59 Yeah, it's cool. The com and the combat is. It can be very daunting at first, but if you practice with the fighter guy, you get better. Like not only you as the player get better, but your character gets better. And I found myself like parrying better and blocking things better without a shield or with a shield. And you get to like, you do cool animations when you parry correctly or you do it perfectly timed thing. And then after I did some things and got my ass kicked and was sneaking around, I was like, I want to do more fighting, I want to fight more. So I trained, I did all that shit and then I went back out and did the missions that I, you know, started over and I was actually like murdering things that I was having a lot of problems with the first time. Like instead of sneaking into a bandit camp, I was like, haha. I was like, yeah, Sir Lancelot from Monty Python and haha, stabbing everything and hitting the flowers at the wedding, you know, the whole fucking nine yards. So yeah, this is a great series. Like I'm excited to play two because of how Jake's talking about it, but if it's more of the same of KCD1, I'm in. I'm gonna buy this thing on a winter sale and, and get ready to fire this thing up because it's just been, it's been a lot of fun. I, I could get lost in this game. It's like Grand Theft Auto in the fact that I could just go do whatever. Yeah, really timing me down.
01:03:59 --> 01:05:42 I had to really like buckle down and say, okay, enough with the blacksmithing, enough with the messing around. I found bits and pieces of armor. I smithed some things, repaired some things. Now I'm going to go get my fancy clothes. I'm going to do the story. And I'm glad I could progress the story because the story is generally good. The whole wedding scene, I'm not going to spoil it, but the whole wedding sequence events is really freaking well done. Very rad. It's, it's awesome. Like even. Even playing the dice minigame, I usually don't like the mini games in this kind of stuff, but the dice minigame in this one, it's, it's rolling five dice and Yahtzee. Yeah, Yahtzee. But there's different dice that you can find in the world or steal or buy off people. And they have different stats and weights than, like, loaded dice. And there's badges you can equip to give you a special ability in the dice game. It's a really. It's a whole thing, and it's a really fun mini game, and it's a good way to get money from people. And that's what I end up doing. Right. Like when I started the game, you're literally in rags. And I'm like, the bailiff in town says, oh, well, there's some fresh graves, but I don't have time to go investigate murders right now. So I'm like, all right, I'll go do it. I just need a shovel. Well, I can't afford six pence for a damn shovel. So I'm hunting around for a shovel and I find one at the graveyard because, of course, there's one there. Only to realize, apparently, that's stealing. I was just going to borrow it, but the grave robber spots me stealing his damn shovel in broad daylight. And he starts chasing after me. And I'm sprinting, but it's level one and I have no stamina. So I keep stopping to catch my breath and slow down and get my stamina up. And he starts wailing on me. And eventually, eventually he chased me into the. Into the forest. And all I want is to dig up some graves. There's really nothing wrong with that. But we get ambushed by wolves, it's like.
01:05:42 --> 01:05:43 Like it's a Tuesday.
01:05:43 --> 01:07:14 Like a Tuesday as you do. He chased me into the woods, we get ambushed by wolves, and we both die. Like that is the immersive gameplay, like emerging gameplay. You don't see many things. It's wild. It's like the only. The only thing I didn't really care for was the save system. You can save and quit whenever you want in this game and reload back up again. But to discourage save scumming, you can't quick save unless you drink schnapps. More of the drinking thing. Yeah. It's like being driven from Resident Evil. I get why they did it, right? They'd want to encourage you to have the consequences of your actions because it's hard to mess up the game. There's very few game overs unless you die in combat. But I found a few spots where if I didn't, I didn't save and I lost maybe 40 minutes of progress, and I don't have time for that. So one of the first things I did. The game has workshop support on Steam is I. There's a mod that gives you basically quick save back. So I, I don't care if it's cheating. That's how I'm playing the game. Because if I didn't, losing progress would probably make me bounce. Like literally everything in this game though is fantastic except for the save system. So KCD2 is great. I, I would like to check KCD1 at some point. Maybe, maybe after I beat this one. But this is now on my radar as a franchise. If I see them do a third game. I heard they, they hired the Quest, one of the quest Designers from Witcher 3 team for future games at that studio and that's. I'm all for that because the quest in Witcher 3 some of my favorite designs. So it's really an awesome franchise. I feel like I really slept on this and I mislabeled it in my head and I really should have paid attention. It's. It's a really fantastic game.
01:07:15 --> 01:07:15 Yeah. Nice.
01:07:16 --> 01:07:27 This was a game that I think was free on Epic at one time and I was waiting for it. So I was going to, I was going to pick it up when it dropped and I missed it and I was like, it. I'm gonna go buy it. So just straight up, you guys have.
01:07:27 --> 01:07:33 Been making me want to play, but I'm like really focused on Octopath. I'm gonna finish that first.
01:07:33 --> 01:07:34 Yeah.
01:07:34 --> 01:07:42 But yeah, I was like, I, I was looking for deals or something. I found out I got it on Epic for free. So I.
01:07:43 --> 01:07:43 Beautiful.
01:07:44 --> 01:07:44 There you go.
01:07:44 --> 01:07:45 Beautiful.
01:07:45 --> 01:07:48 I suppose the game next year, that's why.
01:07:48 --> 01:07:53 Yeah, no, but so the question, Jake, are you gonna finish it?
01:07:53 --> 01:08:17 Oh yeah. Well, I did start my second game, Guild wars, which I want to talk five minutes about. But no, I'm probably gonna finish it. I have a lot of things I've started, but I want to finish this one because the story is genuinely good. But I think I really have to much like Witcher 3. I have to realize I'm not going to do every side quest. I shouldn't. I'm just going to focus on the really interesting ones to me and stick to the main story. So yeah, we'll try and finish it.
01:08:18 --> 01:08:28 Same. I'd like to. I'd like to. I feel like it's a good, it's a good lie down and get ready for bed kind of game because I mean there's, there's a lot of long winded to do.
01:08:28 --> 01:08:28 Yeah.
01:08:28 --> 01:08:34 But I can finish like a mission or two and then go to sleep. Like it's, it's, it's not so. I'm not so, like, gripped.
01:08:34 --> 01:08:38 I can. I can brain three people and then go to bed. Right.
01:08:38 --> 01:08:51 It's smith a sword. And like when you're smithing, you have to hit different spots in the sword. You have to flip it around, you have to heat it up. Like, it's. It's not just the blind crafting in Skyrim. You have to actually do things. And that was fun to me and relaxing.
01:08:51 --> 01:08:56 I have. I have one question, though. Gwent Quint.
01:08:56 --> 01:08:58 There's no Gwent. No Gwent. No. There's Dice.
01:08:58 --> 01:09:00 The dice. The dice.
01:09:00 --> 01:09:01 Dice is actually fun.
01:09:01 --> 01:09:07 I enjoyed fun. Yeah, it's really good. I have one quick honorable mention I can spend five minutes on. Does anyone else have one?
01:09:11 --> 01:09:12 Yeah, I guess.
01:09:13 --> 01:09:14 You want to go first?
01:09:14 --> 01:09:27 Kind of got one. Okay, sure, I'll go. I've still been playing Baldur's Gate 3. I'm like six months deep in that now with a friend of mine. So we're just at the tail end. I'm thinking we're in the latter half of act two.
01:09:28 --> 01:09:29 Okay, that's good.
01:09:31 --> 01:09:34 Like, we're really, literally playing it in three hour chunks a week.
01:09:37 --> 01:10:04 But I'm really digging on it. It's really cool. There's certain things that I like. I forget the plot points because it's been so long since I played early on, but there's other things that stuck with me. So when I hit those points, I'm like, oh, yeah, that's really cool. And it's amazing to me how my friend who I'm playing with, he's played through the game three times on his own, and every week I still do something he didn't do. Like, I'll play out an event. He didn't do it or something.
01:10:05 --> 01:10:05 Yeah.
01:10:05 --> 01:10:08 And last night it was twice.
01:10:08 --> 01:10:35 So that game, that game, I genuinely feel like Larian figured out how to make D and D work in a crpg. Like, and by that I mean, like, the DM plans things out, but the players go and do something completely off the rails that the DM didn't plan for. Right. And Larian has figured out how to, like, handle that as part of the game. Progress.
01:10:35 --> 01:10:48 Yeah, like, sometimes it's just how I play combat, where I do things that he never thought of. Sometimes it's. I will lean into doing an event a certain way because I don't care about a starion.
01:10:49 --> 01:10:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:10:52 --> 01:11:01 I. I love that. Like when we were all playing it, like, we'd be like, oh, that guy. He could have been in my Party. I killed that guy.
01:11:01 --> 01:11:02 Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:04 --> 01:11:21 There's definitely some times when we were playing it, watching one of us play it, and you're like, I didn't even know that was there. Like, I couldn't do that. I didn't know you could go that way. Like. Like you did. To your point, it's. Nobody plays it the same way. It's really cool to see what other paths there are.
01:11:23 --> 01:11:38 Yeah, I'm. I'm kind of interested in maybe playing it a second time after we finish it and just seeing what I can come across if I play it wildly different from how I'm playing now. I also didn't expect to come across JK Simmons voice acting a character.
01:11:38 --> 01:11:41 Yes. He's excellent. Yeah, it's a really fun.
01:11:41 --> 01:11:42 That was surprising.
01:11:42 --> 01:11:42 Yeah.
01:11:42 --> 01:11:48 I was listening to him and I was like, is that. Is that J.K. simmons? And he was like, you'd know better than I would.
01:11:50 --> 01:11:56 No. And like any good rpg, like, if you explore enough, there's notes and books that explain the backstory of his history of the character.
01:11:56 --> 01:11:57 And.
01:11:57 --> 01:12:00 And it's. It's great. I really dig it.
01:12:00 --> 01:12:09 Yeah, I, I don't dig a lot into the backstory since we only play three hours a week. But for his stuff that I was coming across backstory, I was reading it because I was digging that.
01:12:10 --> 01:12:39 What really up the. The replay value for me is in the workshop for that. There is a item randomizer, and it's a little bit more powerful than stock, but it does a pretty good job of. Of mixing up the items in a fun way. And when I played through this all the way through the first time and just getting different items, I couldn't. I could look up a guide for the super powerful weapons. I had to just find them naturally as I played. It was enough that I want to go through it again if I had 200 hours to kill. So, yeah.
01:12:40 --> 01:12:40 Yeah.
01:12:40 --> 01:12:51 PG3 is an awesome game. Really awesome. Like whatever Larry does next, so do I. Man. You got to play what they do. And whatever balls Gate four is going to look like from Hasbro, I couldn't be less interested.
01:12:52 --> 01:13:03 Oh, the minute, the minute that, that got yoinked from. From Larion's hands, I was, I was, I was basically like, you know what? I'll put it on a wish list and watch reviews.
01:13:03 --> 01:13:03 Yeah.
01:13:03 --> 01:13:04 You know.
01:13:07 --> 01:14:23 So I guess real quick, for my pick, I've also started playing Guild wars again. And not Guild Wars 2. I'm talking the 20 year old Guild Wars 1. They ArenaNet put out a press release A couple weeks ago they basically contracted out a third party studio which is actually made up of former ArenaNet employees who worked on Guild Wars 1 to kind of just not remake or remaster. It's called Guild Wars Reforged which is kind of misleading. It's none of those things. They, they basically made it so the game runs better on modern hardware. You can go up to 4k res for example. Right. They've increased the size of UI elements if you want. They added a bit of lighting effects and cleaned up a bit more anti alias aliasing and all that stuff. But the main thing they did was they had a controller support. My hands hurt and playing the Guild of Wars with OSIN keyboard is not comfortable for me and I much rather play this thing on a Steam deck. And that's one of the selling points. They literally came out and said we're adding it to Steam, we're cutting it in the price down, discounting it and we're basically aiming for Steam deck verified. They're not verified just yet. They said they're working on it but it runs great on the Steam deck. I didn't buy it on Steam. I bought this game 20 years ago. I played it when it was in frickin beta. I played the hell to Guild wars, the original Guild Wars. For those who don't know it's it's an action rpg.
01:14:24 --> 01:14:27 Don't think it's MMO action rpg.
01:14:27 --> 01:15:35 It's less of an MMO though than more of like a always online games as a service type of thing. But what was always the focus for me back then was it had a really great PvP system and a really cool like progress in that game is not loot, it's not levels. You basically reach max level within. Very early in the game it was all about collecting different skills. On your hotbar you can carry eight skills, you can combine two classes together and it's just the hunting of skills was fun but when you did the PvP you made a special dedicated character form with everything you unlocked. And this game like I'm surprised this is not an esport today like when we have League of Legends and Dota and Counter Strike which are all around the same age of a game. I don't understand why arena didn't take off with Guild Wars. It's a really fun game and now that they re released it a lot of folks have come back to it. They've said if it does well on this re release on Steam that they've. They're considering having that studio Basically make new content for it. So I hope that happens. Like, as much as I liked Guild Wars 2, which is more of an MMO style game, I really dug that first Guild wars game and it's definitely worth playing. So anybody's interested in that game or has never thought about playing it, it's super worth picking up.
01:15:36 --> 01:16:13 Nice. Yeah. I played the original. It's been 20 years. I played it back 20 years ago and I kind of remember if I remember right, like, because I was, I was coming off of EverQuest and you know, with EverQuest, like you'd go into dungeons and nothing was instanced. Right. And so you'd have like 40 people at like sitting at the beginning of a dungeon, you know, waiting for all their stats to whatever and then everybody would get trained and it would just be a wreck. Right. But. And I remember if, correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember like most things in Guild wars were instanced.
01:16:13 --> 01:16:14 Yes. Yeah.
01:16:14 --> 01:16:26 And that was kind of a new refreshing thing to me was like, oh, I'm not going to be like diving in with 40 people sitting there camping at the beginning of a dungeon. Right. Yeah, yeah.
01:16:26 --> 01:17:15 It stretches that MMO itch because the comet does feel much like an mmo, right. Where you have the hot bar and the skills and all that kind of stuff, but you basically go to hub areas like towns, find up to up to four players, make a party and then you go do missions on a map and you can also. It is an openish world that you can explore and travel across, but it's mostly mission based. But I really dug how because you're at lack max level so quickly and because it's not really loot dependent, you get your, your items so quickly in the game for the most part. It really is challenging in a lot of spots from. Because. Because you basically have to learn to use your skills and make appropriate builds for the situation when you're playing. So it's, it's more of a skill based game and I remember being quite difficult toward the end. So I don't know. It's. It's a really, it's a really interesting game. It's weird how Guild Wars 2 is so different from this one. Like I wasn't quite expecting it.
01:17:17 --> 01:17:18 All right, nice.
01:17:18 --> 01:17:20 Anybody else have an honorable mention before we wrap up?
01:17:21 --> 01:18:04 I'll do a real quick one real quick because it comes. It kind of temp. It kind of comes off of yours. I have been playing essentially classic wow. From essentially 20 years ago as well, and it's been great it's been just a group of us. It's our family only, so it's not like we're looking for other people to group up. And it's just. But it's funny because I played WoW in the beta. I played WoW for a little while after it actually released. Sintress and I then met and I was like, yeah, I'm going to dedicate other time to other things. And I basically gave up wow. And I referred to it as I beat wow.
01:18:06 --> 01:18:09 Yeah. Walk away from it. I also beat wow.
01:18:09 --> 01:18:16 Yeah, exactly. So I beat Everquest, I beat Dragon Age of Camelot. I beat Guild wars. I beat wow.
01:18:16 --> 01:18:19 I, you know, Final Fantasy seven riffs.
01:18:19 --> 01:18:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:18:21 --> 01:18:22 Or seven. 14. I meant 14.
01:18:23 --> 01:18:28 But no, I. I've been enjoying like 20 year old. Wow. It's awesome.
01:18:28 --> 01:18:29 Yeah.
01:18:29 --> 01:18:29 Like.
01:18:29 --> 01:18:30 And it holds up.
01:18:31 --> 01:19:03 It does. When you play with people, you know, and you keep that small group, I think. Right. Because when I play MMOs these days, I. I'll dabble in with Guild Wars 2 or Final Fantasy 14 once in a while. Elder Scrolls Online. And it's always the same. I'm usually playing solo. It's weird playing a game like that solo. It's always more fun when you play with people, you know, and when you have that small, tight group, I think it's a totally different experience. So I'm glad you're playing it. Classic. Wow was a thing, man. Like, I remember. I remember playing that beta and then playing the launch thing. The whole opening cinematic. Like Blizzard knew how to do cinematics back then. It was. It was a whole thing.
01:19:03 --> 01:19:04 Yep.
01:19:04 --> 01:19:04 Very cool.
01:19:05 --> 01:19:05 Nice.
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01:21:07 --> 01:21:17 Where do you guys. What do you guys. It's been a day. You guys want to show anything out? Are you streaming? Are you making videos? Are you doing something and go around the table. Anybody interested?
01:21:19 --> 01:21:22 I'm just doing the DJ stuff still. So.
01:21:22 --> 01:21:24 Yeah, shout it out. Twitch.
01:21:24 --> 01:21:25 I'm gonna Twitch.
01:21:25 --> 01:21:32 Yeah, Twitch DJ Spin a Star. Or on Saturdays, Soul Archaic. Sorry.
01:21:32 --> 01:21:47 Smatter Days. Sure, Smatter Days. Yeah, no, I'm streaming. It's gonna be a little spotty. But at the end of this month, you're gonna get a heavy dose of. Of charge as I will be taking two weeks off of work and I've already discussed the wife that I'll take.
01:21:47 --> 01:21:48 I'll take my statins.
01:21:49 --> 01:22:24 You're going to get. You guys are going to get abused. I was actually surprised with a gif of routine today which came out yesterday. I'm super excited. I've been wanting to play this one for a while. We are in the middle of Silent Hill 4, but I'm thinking of taking a small break to play some routine this weekend and see how that goes. I know it's a fairly short game, so we might actually be able to beat it this weekend. We'll see. But we're gonna play some Lunar Jump scares, I think this weekend. And then continue on with Silent Hill 4 and then other Silent Hill games beyond that, and getting kind of geared up for the release of Resident Evil 9 in February next year, so.
01:22:24 --> 01:22:26 That's gonna be sick soon.
01:22:26 --> 01:22:27 I know.
01:22:27 --> 01:22:29 All right, Wolf, anything you want to shout out?
01:22:31 --> 01:22:31 No.
01:22:33 --> 01:22:34 Same with me.
01:22:35 --> 01:22:35 No.
01:22:36 --> 01:22:37 All right, everybody.
01:22:37 --> 01:22:37 Sweet.
01:22:37 --> 01:22:39 I think the lead in was the best.
01:22:39 --> 01:22:44 There we go. Soup to nuts. We made it work. We did, everybody. Thank you.
01:22:44 --> 01:22:45 Delicious.
01:22:45 --> 01:22:49 This has been another episode of. Press me to cancel. See everybody next week, brother.
01:22:49 --> 01:22:50 No soup for you.
01:23:04 --> 01:23:04 It.
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