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The year is 1987. The year that brought us the origin of the rick roll. The year we wanted to dance with somebody. The year we lived on a prayer. Also the year of endless music one liners Chard can bring while we go round the table with our picks for Game of the Year in 1987!
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00:00 --> 01:19 Guys, this is a strong year, okay? This is the year that the Rick roll began. This is the year where we wanted to dance with somebody. This is the year where it's a sin. It's also a year that we're living on prayers. We may not know who that girl is, but we definitely know the game of the years for 1987. Today on welcome everybody back to another spectacularly well planned out and thought out episode of Press B to cancel where we know exactly where the timings need to be. Our cadence is the best in the business. Guys, my name is Chard Monk. I am the host of this night's episode of talking about Games of the year of this specific year, 1987. But I can't study the late 80s by myself. Of course not. I have to come with some of the greatest 80s babies that came out of that year. Maybe not that specific year, but certainly that decade. Sinistar, how are you tonight, sir?
01:20 --> 01:22 I'm doing well. And you know, Chard, I'm never going to give you up.
01:23 --> 01:29 Yeah, I am definitely going to let you down. I know. How are you, sir?
01:30 --> 01:33 Try and talk the chat. You're not supposed to be in first, but I'm doing great.
01:34 --> 01:39 And as Jake continues to travel the streets with no names. Wolf, how are you today?
01:40 --> 01:42 I am gonna run around and hurt you.
01:43 --> 01:48 Wow, you're close enough to do that too. You're the only one I'm worried about.
01:49 --> 01:57 Please, please tell me that this was the year that the song Kiriana came out. Because if he's gonna run around and hurt you, bro, he needs to do it carrying a laser.
01:58 --> 02:48 I didn't look like deep. However, I will say that this podcast is just like heaven. No, maybe full of a bunch of strange love. We're gonna give a lot of strange love to these. How many games? We got eight games. We got eight games to talk about. Guys, we're really diving into 1987. This was a strong year. This was the year that my wife was born. I like 1907. This is a good, good year. They've had some really great beginning of some franchises came out that we'll talk about. There was some sequels that we'll discuss today and there's even a few computer PC type games that came out that are probably better than the. The console ones that came out later maybe, I don't know. And I still don't know why they put Blaster or Master Blaster on there. But I saw that and we're not going with that one tonight. Shocker. I know that's not give me strangely, because I did 88.
02:49 --> 02:58 Are you not looking at Moby Games again? Because that's the thing. We do this. We go based on Moby Games, not Moby Games. I think you got Moby.
02:58 --> 03:15 Yeah, we should, we should tell the people the rules. Because every time that we do this. Yeah, yeah, we, we go on Moby Games release dates. Even if it says something because it may have been released in, say, Japan on the we're talking about, we still go by what Moby Games says the release year was.
03:15 --> 03:47 Yeah. So before anybody goes out there and ats us and goes, sir, excuse me, Madonna did not have three hits in 1987. According to the top 100, she did. Okay. Secondly, we may not be totally accurate about our years, but that's what Moby Game told us and that is our basis of information. Blame me problem with that. Take it up with Moby Games, please. We're just doing our best over here, okay? We're four guys in our bedrooms doing our best. Anyways, so without further ado, let's dive into this year.
03:49 --> 03:59 I want to do something for the listeners and I'm gonna ask you guys. I got a trivia question for you guys that is 1987 adjacent, okay?
03:59 --> 04:01 Like Master Buster.
04:01 --> 04:08 What is the top grossing movie of 1987? Dirty Dancing in theaters.
04:09 --> 04:12 Dirty Dancing, Back to the Future 2.
04:13 --> 04:16 Was there any Disney movies in 87? There must have been. Right.
04:16 --> 04:17 Well, we'll.
04:17 --> 04:21 Well, I'll come back to the answer later and I'll give you a multiple choice because so far you all are wrong.
04:22 --> 04:22 Okay.
04:24 --> 04:32 In the 87 that I can remember, Top Gun. No, that was like 82 or some. Anyways, yeah, okay, we'll go back to that. That's great.
04:33 --> 04:33 Games.
04:34 --> 04:41 Wolf, since you have a trivia question and you're going to start us off, what is your runner up game of the year for 1987?
04:42 --> 05:07 All right, mine is a. Let's start here. Long before Trails of Cold Steel and Trails in the sky, there was a series that preceded that called Dragon Slayer. Now, I am specifically calling out Dragon Slayer 4, which is not what it was called here in the West. It was called Legacy of the Wizard.
05:07 --> 05:17 Oh, God, the nes. Oh, that name triggers many a miniature. Okay. Legacy of the wizard, the hardest game ever created.
05:18 --> 05:36 It is very difficult. But I also, I love that game. It is so much fun. It's easy to just get lost and have fun doing it while jamming out to all the tunes in that game. Because all the music in that Game rocks. And the fact that it's got, like.
05:36 --> 05:37 Banger soundtrack, for sure.
05:37 --> 05:42 Five or six characters to play as. I think it's five. Like, that's.
05:43 --> 05:45 One sec. Give me one quick second.
05:48 --> 05:53 Sorry, folks, we need to put up the TV Technical difficulties screen.
05:53 --> 05:53 Yeah.
05:53 --> 05:54 I'm telling you.
05:54 --> 05:55 Just give me one sec.
05:56 --> 05:59 My, My favorite. What happened is. There it is.
05:59 --> 06:03 I messed up a scene. Give me one sec. All right, sorry. Continue.
06:03 --> 06:08 You're fine. Legacy of the wizard, which is like an isometric top down, top up.
06:09 --> 06:12 It is. No, it's a platformer.
06:13 --> 06:14 Yeah. Is it?
06:15 --> 06:17 It's a 2D platformer.
06:17 --> 06:18 Is it, though?
06:19 --> 06:20 Yeah.
06:20 --> 06:23 Well, I mean, it's like platforming. I don't know.
06:23 --> 06:36 It's kind of an action RPG somehow, a little bit, but not really. It's. It's as if, like, they wanted HeroQuest to be a 2D platformer, and this is as good as they could get it.
06:38 --> 06:41 Fair. Okay.
06:43 --> 07:00 But, yeah, I absolutely love this game. I spent a lot of time as a kid just picking a character and wandering and getting lost, and I think it's entirely possible to actually get stuck with some characters in certain parts of the map and just not be able to get out. And so then you're hosed.
07:01 --> 07:03 But this is Game of the Year.
07:04 --> 07:05 No, this is Runner Up.
07:05 --> 07:06 This is Runner Up.
07:06 --> 07:07 Yeah, this is Runner Up.
07:07 --> 07:07 Okay.
07:08 --> 07:27 But I love the fact that it's like this really huge maze labyrinth kind of thing, that it's actually designed where different characters shine in different parts of the labyrinth. And so you're, you're really supposed to go back between segments and choose a different character and then continue on.
07:29 --> 07:34 I just noticed it has wall bread, so it's got that going for it.
07:34 --> 07:39 I mean, small meat goes bad faster than wall bread. It keeps longer.
07:39 --> 07:39 Yeah.
07:40 --> 07:46 You know, I, I. One of the things I love about this game is the fact that enemies can be treated as platforms.
07:46 --> 07:47 Yeah.
07:49 --> 07:51 It's not like a Mario head stomp situation type of thing.
07:51 --> 07:52 No.
07:53 --> 07:53 Okay.
07:53 --> 07:59 Yeah. If there's a bird flying around in the air, you can stand on it. It hurts you, but you can stand on them and use them as a platform.
08:00 --> 08:02 So it's like Mario 2 but pain.
08:03 --> 08:03 Yes.
08:03 --> 08:04 Yeah, a little bit.
08:04 --> 08:07 Mario 2 is pain, so that makes sense.
08:07 --> 08:20 I think it depends on the enemy. So, like, if you're perfectly in line with the top of their head and they're not moving vertically at all, I think you're fine. But if they're trying to move vertically or jump, you're going to get hurt.
08:21 --> 08:29 This Game has such a hodgepodge of enemies. It has like dude in a trench coat with a wizard hat and then some dude and a cowboy hat running.
08:29 --> 08:32 Around and a weird round. It's got a round.
08:32 --> 08:33 Yeah.
08:33 --> 08:33 Critter.
08:33 --> 08:48 Yeah. It's like if Kirby was a cowboy, he was in here. It's like there's also like octopus and yeah. You've got Jason with two knives running around at you and now a worm.
08:48 --> 08:50 That looks like, yeah, like football playing.
08:50 --> 09:23 Yeah, there's, there's no, there's no rhyme or reason to Legacy of the Wizard. It, it really is just, it feels like someone scraped all the remaining pieces of your, of whatever you were making. Like all the extras. If you were making bread and they just tossed it into a bowl and we're like, there's a lot of good stuff here. We shouldn't throw it all away. But they don't mix. But we'll take the rosemary, the garlic, the raisins, the chocolate chips and the dough and we'll turn that into bread. And that's Legacy of the Wizard.
09:25 --> 09:27 I, I, I love the graphics in this game.
09:28 --> 09:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:30 --> 09:33 The, the arts. What are you trying to ask, Jake?
09:34 --> 09:39 I just going to say, like you said, this is the fourth game in the series. Have you played the other one? Were they translated or.
09:40 --> 09:55 I have not played the other ones. I think this was the first one to come to the West. But yeah, like I'm, as I mentioned, Trails in the Sky, Trails of Cold Steel. Those are an offshoot of the Dragon Slayer series.
09:57 --> 09:57 Okay.
09:58 --> 10:02 So the series is still in production just by another different name now.
10:03 --> 10:05 Are they still making these?
10:06 --> 10:09 Yeah, the Trails series. I think they're still making them.
10:09 --> 10:10 Wow.
10:10 --> 10:16 Gosh. How long is that then? That must be rivaling Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy at this point.
10:17 --> 10:33 Yeah, I believe, you know, in North America this was published by Broderbund, but I do think it was a Nihon Falcon game originally. And so yeah, it's been an in house production the whole time. Pretty wild.
10:34 --> 10:39 Quietly. The Wise series is over here. Just making 60 versions of itself as well.
10:39 --> 10:41 Yeah, Ease Eyes.
10:41 --> 10:43 I think it's Ease.
10:43 --> 10:44 Yeah, Ease.
10:44 --> 10:50 Yeah, you can tell we know games. We're just gonna mispronounce everything.
10:50 --> 10:52 We're professional guys. Okay.
10:53 --> 10:58 To be fair, I called it Wise for a long time and then when I saw the anime I was like, oh, it's east.
10:59 --> 11:04 Yes, he's 60. Legacy of the Trailblazer.
11:04 --> 11:04 Yeah.
11:05 --> 11:24 This is a game where a lot of people like, they, they wish, they wish death upon rarers Because a lot of folks are like, go, badge Legacy of the Wizard. And everybody goes, absolutely not. I will not do that. Notoriously difficult in Legacy.
11:25 --> 11:46 It is. Well, because it's got five major regions in the map that are intended to be traversed by one of the family members because they all have different abilities and movement capabilities. So like the girl, she moves really slow, but she can jump really high. She shoots kind of far.
11:47 --> 11:48 So she's Princess Peach.
11:49 --> 11:50 Yeah. The.
11:50 --> 11:51 She can float.
11:52 --> 11:52 Yeah.
11:52 --> 12:23 The family pet which transforms into like a little baby dragon looking thing. He moves really fast, he hits really hard, but his attacks don't go very far and he doesn't jump very high. And then, you know, the son and the dad both hit like a truck, but one moves fast, one jumps higher, stuff like that. So they all have. But then they get like different abilities that you get. And because they move differently, they traverse certain areas of the map better than others because of the platforming design.
12:24 --> 12:36 Yeah. This game looks awesome. I've seen people play it here and there, but I never really focused on it. I didn't realize it was kind of that in depth with the different characters and the large map. This seems pretty rad. I wasn't aware of this one.
12:36 --> 13:03 The downside with this game back in the day, now we've got save states, but back then if you wanted to save your file, there was no save battery in this one. It was a password system. So you had to go all the way back to the house to where you would trade to a different family member. But instead you talk to grandma or grandpa and get the password. And hopefully you wrote it down correctly because oh boy, it was long. And I have a lot of unusual characters.
13:04 --> 13:15 Like the one with the squares that like one side is completely blacked out, the other one's white. And if you've got color it the wrong way, it looks like a cross X. It's all, it's all hieroglyphic.
13:16 --> 13:22 I. I have a feeling there's. There's at least three games on this list tonight that'll have passwords.
13:23 --> 13:30 Oh yeah, and why are we giving passwords to grandma? She's the last person I would give my password to. She's gonna be a sticky note on her laptop.
13:30 --> 13:35 The one who gives you the password. And grandpa is the one you give the password to.
13:36 --> 13:40 Because grandma makes it difficult to remember passwords.
13:40 --> 13:41 Yeah.
13:41 --> 13:43 So nobody gets back in. That's why the wife.
13:43 --> 13:49 Grandma told you stop using the kids names as the damn password. It's not, not the way we do things. Here.
13:50 --> 13:51 But it's your birthday.
13:51 --> 14:23 Something worth, something worth noting about this game is when you're traversing all the maps and everything. You know, playing as a kid, I always thought, okay, you're just going further and further and further underground. No, that's while you are physically going down lower into the map. It's like you're in different parts of the countryside. It's really strange because at the, at the opening of the game, there's a castle in the background. Eventually you end up in that castle, but all you've done is go down and off to the right.
14:25 --> 14:29 Like a digging the china situation. Just geography makes no sense with it whatsoever.
14:29 --> 14:56 Yeah, you'll be wandering through different areas and you see buildings behind you and skylines and you know, most of the time the skyline is black and then you see the buildings in the back in the black background. But it's really neat. If you're paying attention, you will see a lot of different regions where it seems like they tried to build out a countryside and try to convey that to the player. 7 year old me didn't get it.
14:56 --> 15:05 But it's pretty cool for people born in 82. Wow. All right, great.
15:05 --> 15:06 Very cool.
15:06 --> 15:14 That's a cool one. I didn't realize there were four of those ones. That's crazy. That's well now, right?
15:14 --> 15:21 No, they're like there were seven games, seven dragon slayers, and then a couple offshoot branches at different points in the franchise.
15:22 --> 15:35 That's nuts. Okay, all right, I guess we'll move on since we're busy dying in Wolf's Arms tonight playing Legacy of the Wizard Sinistar. What is your next pick?
15:36 --> 15:38 My next? You mean my first?
15:39 --> 15:44 Yeah. Well, what's the next pick? You know what? Open your heart to me.
15:44 --> 15:46 You know what? You. You did let me down. It's fine.
15:48 --> 15:53 God, you guys keep doing these music puns and we're gonna have to change thumbnails to be away from movies and do CD covers again.
15:53 --> 15:57 Like, hey, you don't want music puns. Don't let me host, bro.
16:02 --> 16:18 My runner up. My runner up. By the way, I think that the thumbnail answers your question. Wolf, at the beginning of the. Of the episode. I think that the thumbnail answers your question.
16:19 --> 16:20 We'll see.
16:20 --> 16:53 Yeah. Okay, so my runner up is a little known game if you're from this era called Marble Madness. Okay, now the arcade version. Yeah, the arcade version came out in 84, but the ports to home systems were 87. And I'm specifically talking the Apple II port, which graphically is one of the weakest in the series, but far superior. No, no.
16:59 --> 16:59 For a minute there.
16:59 --> 17:47 Yeah. Here's the thing. I. I actually had no idea that Marble Madness was. I never saw it in an arcade until after I really played. Yeah, until after I had played the port. So for me, Marvel Madness was always controlled with a joystick or, or, or, you know, forgive you if you. If you suck a keyboard. But yeah, it's, it's. So this is a game essentially. I mean, the arcade version uses a trackball, but you have. You have. You have to complete six levels to finish this game. Six. Just six. And I'm telling you, like, six people in the world have ever beaten this game.
17:48 --> 17:51 Say, with this frame rate, it's going to feel like 24 levels.
17:52 --> 18:41 Well, this game. This game is stupid hard because being. Being something. Yeah, being. I mean, so the. One of the things I absolutely love about this game is the marble physics, which is when you let go of the controls or you change direction, it doesn't stop immediately. It has inertia. And that inertia plays out. And so you have to pay really close attention, especially on these really skinny platforms. And then the game, to be an absolute bastard, throws these weird tube creatures that. Do you guys remember in the 80s, those, like tubes that you would get that would know. Like the ones that would like slide through your fingers? You remember those that were like.
18:41 --> 18:42 Like the Chinese finger traps?
18:42 --> 18:45 No. Kind of. But it was like filled with a gel.
18:46 --> 18:51 Anyway, you're gonna start talking about tunnels again. Just call them watermelon. Hey, we all know what those really are.
18:51 --> 18:54 I mean, it might have been a water. I don't know. I am flesh.
18:54 --> 18:54 Tunnels.
18:54 --> 18:57 Look, I. And we have tunnels on the screen.
18:57 --> 18:59 Whole other kind of game chart.
19:00 --> 19:43 We have tunnels on the screen right now. I am a sucker for tunnels. I am a sucker for tunnels. So. But. And then this game throws these. Like. There is a. There is a level called Silly. I think it's silly. Yeah. Where instead of moving from top to bottom, you have to roll your way up and the enemies are all miniaturized and so you kind of can't see them as much. Yeah, but it's one of the games that you are going to struggle the most at, but you're just gonna keep trying. I can't tell you how many times I played the first three levels, and that's probably all I ever played was the first three levels.
19:43 --> 19:50 Same because you probably only had the three. What, the two discs. Because you had to flip them every time you do another Level.
19:50 --> 19:51 Yeah.
19:51 --> 19:52 It's like five stages.
19:53 --> 19:53 Yep.
19:53 --> 19:55 So five discs, right?
19:55 --> 19:57 Five discs. Yeah. We'll flip them. So that'd be 10 levels.
19:58 --> 20:08 It's hard, but I. I've beaten this. You're One of the NES I've beaten. Yeah. One of the six people out there. You know, in Canada we one video game in 87 it was Marvel Madness.
20:08 --> 20:12 So you struggle with Kirby.
20:13 --> 20:19 Look, the sun and the moon is a very difficult boss. We've gone over this before. Marvel Madness is a baby's game.
20:19 --> 20:19 It's.
20:19 --> 20:22 I could beat Marvel Madness on my lunch break with Mario and have time.
20:22 --> 20:24 To lord right after eight. Two. Huh?
20:24 --> 20:29 You know what, Jake? You know what, Jake? Record it. Let's go.
20:31 --> 21:12 It's been a while. You know. You know why I. I've beaten this is every time they do, there's this big competition called Big20. They do it on TW Twitch and it's basically speedrunners have a little competition and they go through a list of 20 NES games and this one has come up a couple times. And every time they give the announcement of the Big 20 list. I never compete because I'm not. I am the furthest thing from a speedrunner. But I'm always interested to see what the challenges are. And whenever they do moral madness, it's. It's like a three minute game. You can beat this game in minutes. Like it's not a very long game. So I, I practice this one just to try it out. Yeah, it's not very long. So I, I did practice this one. I can beat the NES one. The arcade one. I don't remember. I'm with you. The controls are just janky. No matter what version of this you play.
21:12 --> 21:13 Yeah.
21:13 --> 21:16 I love the inertia. I love the inertia.
21:16 --> 21:27 Yeah, the, the, the physics in this are. Are great. That's. That's what makes this game. Is it? Mark Cerny is the guy who did this. Where did he end up? I think he was. I think he ended up at Xbox. I want to say.
21:28 --> 21:29 You should pause now.
21:29 --> 21:32 See, the video is over. That's how short this game is. Now I gotta turn it off.
21:32 --> 21:34 Well, now we're talking. Rastan. This.
21:34 --> 21:34 That is.
21:34 --> 21:37 Did this come out in 87? If so, I picked the wrong game.
21:38 --> 21:39 Oh, did it?
21:39 --> 21:42 We should ask this guy if he' and if he was born in 87.
21:44 --> 21:46 I'm not giving him credit. We. We've already given enough people credit.
21:46 --> 22:12 It's happening. You know, when I was younger, Marble Madness is one of my favorite console Games that I always wanted to really get into, and I just was awful at it because of the inertia, specifically. I had a hard time of just not balling forward and. And, you know, really hitting it hard because most marbles, when they fall off of things, they don't crack. But this one ain't no shortcuts. In Marvel Madness, there's only Death and Dust.
22:13 --> 22:27 But that's one of those. Okay. But that's. That's one of the. That's one of the. The endearing things about this game is when you break into dust, a broom comes out, sweeps you up. Right? I mean, like, it's endearing.
22:27 --> 22:44 Why do I need to go down this hill? I'll just fall to the ground. I'm a marble, for Christ's sake. Nope, you are. Grandma's snow globe falling down the stairs. That's what you are. You're not a marble. This is not a mar. Marble. This is the biggest. This is the most fragile piece of glass that's ever rolled over tile.
22:45 --> 22:50 I feel like I got an unfair amount of ship for my pick when this one is probably harder.
22:51 --> 22:54 Yeah, this is a harder game, I think maybe.
22:54 --> 22:55 You think so?
22:55 --> 22:55 I.
22:55 --> 23:00 You know, it just. It's not long. That's what it is to me. It's like. It's a game you can beat in 20 minutes.
23:00 --> 23:04 Every time I play, it feels like an eternity. And I only get three levels in.
23:04 --> 23:05 Really?
23:05 --> 23:06 Okay.
23:06 --> 23:09 And I tried. Like, I want to be good at.
23:09 --> 23:13 This subtle chapel thing over there. Really, It's. Are you.
23:13 --> 23:20 That. It's a good game. It's a great game. I just don't think it's very difficult. Maybe if it was longer, maybe.
23:20 --> 23:21 You know what I want to try.
23:21 --> 23:21 Oh.
23:21 --> 23:25 Because. Because I've seen more than four levels in the game.
23:26 --> 23:29 Jake's. Jake's gonna Platinum Marvel Madness.
23:30 --> 23:36 I don't even want to look at the Chivas for this one. It's probably ridiculous. No, I, like, beat it in three seconds.
23:36 --> 23:42 I actually want to get a trackpad. I want to get a trackpad for my Mr. And try the arcade core with the trackpad.
23:42 --> 23:45 Nice version on Mr.
23:45 --> 23:50 I don't know. But if it is, that would be, like, epically good.
23:50 --> 23:53 Get your. Get some golden tea in there, too, while you're at it.
23:53 --> 24:35 There you go. Yeah. By the way, speaking of difficulty. So not only do you have the inertia and the little tube enemies and whatever, there is a black marble that is your nemesis and will chase you down and try to knock you off wherever you Are it just tries to send you another direction. So yeah, no, I, I, it's, this is one of those games where it's one of the hardest games that I love, you know, fair. And I've never beaten it. I've also never, I've also never beaten.
24:35 --> 24:36 Legacy of the wizard.
24:36 --> 24:41 So I was gonna say I've never beaten Legacy of the Wizard. So, you know, I can't say I've.
24:41 --> 24:44 Beaten either of those myself. So we were, we were in, we're in the same boat.
24:44 --> 24:47 But Jake can beat Marvel Madness on his lunch break.
24:47 --> 24:48 Jake. Jake's beat.
24:49 --> 24:50 You heard it.
24:50 --> 25:07 You know, I could beat Marvel Madness and finish Mario Bros. 1, including a 2, and I could probably make a decent amount of progress in balloon fight at the same time. Like, this is a whirlwind tour of games in a 30 minute lunch break. I'm looking, I'm looking at the Chivos for this. They actually don't look terrible. Chart.
25:07 --> 25:08 Yeah.
25:08 --> 25:20 Like the hardest one is squish all the mini enemies on the silly race. This is the NES version. I'm not touching the Apple version. Finish the beginning race without losing your marble. That could be difficult. But I, I think these are actually doable.
25:22 --> 25:24 Maybe Jake gonna get his first badge.
25:24 --> 25:25 Yeah, you heard it here, folks.
25:25 --> 25:32 I have a badge. Are you kidding me? I have a Where's Waldge? I don't deny my success.
25:33 --> 25:37 No, you have a Great Waldo Search badge. I have a Where's Waldo badge.
25:39 --> 25:41 Sorry, I'm.
25:43 --> 25:43 The same thing.
25:43 --> 25:48 That's my fault. I need to be more accepting of people's achievements, you know, like just because.
25:48 --> 25:53 You have what, 50 billion nachivos? I have Tetris, bro.
25:53 --> 25:59 I have like seven badges. Not even, I'm not even, not even bottom tier.
25:59 --> 26:01 We don't want to hear about your Tetris Chivos, man.
26:02 --> 26:03 Yeah, no kidding.
26:03 --> 26:04 I'm so close.
26:04 --> 26:06 You're just over there playing.
26:06 --> 26:06 Yes.
26:08 --> 26:12 Well, back to flesh tudes. Are we okay?
26:12 --> 26:12 All right.
26:12 --> 26:18 Marvel Madness is a good pick. I just don't know about the Apple II version, but again, I don't have the nostalgia computer like you do.
26:19 --> 26:26 I mean, that's the thing is that was the system I had in 87. I didn't have an NES. I had an Apple too. That's what I had, you know?
26:26 --> 26:27 Yeah.
26:27 --> 26:28 So yeah.
26:32 --> 26:41 Don'T worry, Jake. You can stand by me. And tonight, Tonight, Tonight you can tell us what your runner up pick is for 1987.
26:42 --> 26:47 I don't know any of these references, so I'm like, fine, I guess It's Johnny Cash. I'm assuming it's Johnny Cash.
26:47 --> 26:48 That's a Genesis song, but that's fine.
26:48 --> 26:49 Dear Lord.
26:49 --> 26:52 Okay, I'm close. It's like. It's like Johnny Cash.
26:53 --> 26:56 Genesis Bedfellows, of course in the musical industry.
26:57 --> 27:01 Yes, they did. They did. His favorite song hurt.
27:01 --> 27:03 Yeah, I did do Just Shame.
27:03 --> 27:06 They stole it from him. Who was it? Phil Collins. Phil Collins is Genesis, right? I should know.
27:06 --> 27:09 Yes. Dear Lord. Okay, what's your runner up? Jake?
27:10 --> 29:00 Yeah, that's fine. Fax and a dude by pick Chard Facts and it is my pick. I. I'm struggle. I struggled. Is it paused? It's paused. I struggled in picking something for 1987 because everything I liked in the 80s was either 88 or 86 I believe or earlier. 87 was a struggle struggle for me. Like a lot of the games I played were games like Metroid and stuff and they came out I think later. So 87 is a tough year for me. I did manage to find two and the first one I'm going to go with is Faxanadu which in many ways reminds me a lot of Zelda 2. It's a side scrolling. It's RPGish but it's an action side scrolling action game with platforming and a lot of monsters and a lot of towns and buying equipment, the whole nine yards. It's got a great music, the death music. When you die in this game, which you die often so I heard it very often because unlike Marvel Madness Facts Entity was actually a hard game and when you die in this game you get a really great death tune. And it's funny because this is almost silver to your pick Wolf in that platforming game side scrolling RPG ish type adventure and it was also looks like licensed by Falcom all this one was published by Hudson Soft. So I guess Falcom kind of had their groove with these kind of games. It was interesting. The story is I assume you're an elf. It's like you start off in the elf villages at the bottom of the world tree and there's dwarves who are evil and have taken over and you're basically to climb the tree to take to fight the dwarves. That's the the gist of it but it's like very much like Zelda and as you're exploring the world and making your way up the tree, there's dungeons that you go through and there's bosses and magic and all kinds of equipment to buy and find. And it's an interesting one. I've never Beaten it. Which I guess is a theme for us this year in the game of the year of 1987. None of us are good at games this year. Nobody's beaten it.
29:01 --> 29:04 That's not fair until I get to my picks. Thank you.
29:05 --> 29:07 Okay. Yeah, but you picked easy games. It's fine.
29:08 --> 29:09 Get out of here.
29:09 --> 29:15 Look, my number one game have beaten. In fact, I streamed my number one game to completion.
29:17 --> 29:19 These are runner ups because we don't know how video.
29:21 --> 29:23 I skipped out the video and he's still in the first town.
29:23 --> 29:25 I know this game.
29:25 --> 29:28 Yes, you probably played it. Most people played it.
29:28 --> 29:31 Cover looks like a Zelda game. Like.
29:31 --> 29:31 Yes.
29:32 --> 29:34 I initially thought it was a Zelda game.
29:34 --> 29:42 When I saw the weird shield looking. When I saw the weird leaping eye, dude, it triggered. It triggered the brain there. I was like, oh, that's it.
29:43 --> 29:44 Yeah.
29:44 --> 29:44 Okay.
29:44 --> 30:36 I think I first played this game when it was on a pirated 52 on one cart, if I'm not wrong. So it's a game that a lot of folks have played. It's up there with eight eyes in terms of that 2D adventure platforming games in the NES that nobody ever kind of got far into. But it's worth, it's worth playing at least as far as I got anyway. It's definitely interesting. The only thing that was a little bit annoying to me is, is everything costs a boatload of cash. Like there's keys to enter dungeons and enter doors. You need to use keys. You have to buy them. And it's almost worth it to buy them in the first town because every town after that fact, the same key goes up in price. So the first tower, first town, the J key is worth a hundred golds. Golds. They always have the S. And then the second town, it goes up to 140. Like it's like they're being tariff. It's ridiculous how much they go up and cost just because you go deeper into the world and you could of course backtrack to the first town to buy more keys if you really wanted to, but then you have to deal with all the shit on the way.
30:36 --> 30:38 In fact, Xanadu tariffs are really.
30:38 --> 30:43 I, I like these, I like these blue dudes that are chewing gum.
30:43 --> 30:58 Yeah, they're the ring. Don't ask people to pixel art. It's, it's, it's interesting. I think there's bread in this game. I think the spiky things are bread or unless that's, I don't know, beef Wellington that drops on them. I'm not quite sure, maybe that's what it is. But you can't.
30:58 --> 31:01 I mean, yeah, that makes sense, but you can't.
31:01 --> 31:02 You know what?
31:02 --> 31:03 You can't duck and stabilize.
31:07 --> 31:08 And now we have beef Wellington.
31:08 --> 31:11 I'm going with beef Wellington. Whether it's beef Wellington or not.
31:11 --> 31:12 Just.
31:12 --> 31:17 Just drops fully cooked from them for the spicy dudes on the ground. That's what they're doing. They're cooking down there.
31:18 --> 31:21 Somebody. Somebody in this town is making puff pastry.
31:22 --> 31:28 Somebody's got to the elves. Elves make the. That Elvish bread in Lord of the Ring. That's what they're doing.
31:28 --> 31:32 Are you climbing the keyboard? What you're doing.
31:32 --> 31:40 Wait. Lambus is Wellington. Lambas is puff pastry.
31:41 --> 31:55 It's gotta be. Look, Peter Jackson got a lot of things wrong about his movies, and this is one of them, right? This is what. This is what Sam was. Was cooking all the time for Master Frodo over the campfire. It's a lot.
31:56 --> 31:59 I have actually never played this game.
31:59 --> 32:01 Really? Really.
32:01 --> 32:18 Okay, when. So when you first mentioned it, for a half second my brain thought Astian X. And then I was like, no, he said faxanadu. And then for like another hour, I thought you were talking about Faria, which is an action RPG overhead. Action rpg.
32:18 --> 32:21 It was the beef Wellington that steered him back to faxanity.
32:22 --> 32:27 Then we brought this up, but I was like, oh, it's that we should.
32:27 --> 32:28 Look at the manual. What?
32:28 --> 32:29 It actually know this one?
32:29 --> 32:31 I'd be disappointed if it wasn't jerky or some.
32:32 --> 32:39 That's no jerky. If that's. If that's jerky, that's. That's not done right. It's pale white and wrapped in twine. That's not what we do.
32:40 --> 32:40 All right.
32:41 --> 33:21 Okay. Controls. I was gonna say controls. In this real quick, you can't duck, which feels weird when some of the enemies are below your waist, like these spiky guys. So the only way you can kill those guys is with magic. You have to equip a magic spell to hit them. So. But it's an interesting dynamic of. Okay, use magic on the spiky dudes to get your health back from the be Wellingtons. And then you use your sword, the other guys to get gold. And there's a lot of farming of gold. There's a lot of items in the game, and a lot of them are very expensive. The. Like I said, the inflation of cost between one town the next just keeps going up. So it's one of those games where you do find yourself going between towns and Repeating the same screens to kind of build up gold. That's a bit of a. Bit of an. I mean, it's the 80s. That's what. That's what you did.
33:22 --> 33:23 That's a falcom thing, though, right?
33:24 --> 33:26 Is it? Okay, yeah.
33:26 --> 33:29 East games do that, too. You do a lot of gold farming?
33:30 --> 33:33 Yes. Yeah. Eve's is the same idea. Right. There's lots of farming in that.
33:33 --> 33:39 But all right. It is simply listed as food in the manual. So we are going with beef Wellington.
33:39 --> 33:58 Beef Wellington, yeah. Yeah. It's. You know, if they ever remake this game or give it a sequel, it's Beef Wellington. I'm sure of it. But, yeah, my pick is backside. Do great music. It is fun. It's. The graphics are pretty good for the time. Lots of variety in the enemies, lots of items to collect. It is. It is difficult, though. And like I said, I never did beat it.
34:02 --> 34:08 I. I have played that game. I. I agree. I had a lot of fun while I was playing it. Yeah, I've never beaten it either.
34:08 --> 34:18 I'll have to try that one where I'm kind of surprised they didn't do a sequel for it. I mean, like, everything got a sequel on the nes, it feels like. But they never, never gave Zelda two.
34:21 --> 34:21 Request.
34:23 --> 34:46 One of those ones that I. I had thought about exploring on Twitch at one of these points in my life. It looked very interesting. It was, again, I mistaked it for being a Zelda game because the COVID looked like that, you know, but you never read the name. And then when you're young and you read the name, you know, you're not going to say fact, Sanadu. You're going to say facts. It's got X's in it. What the hell is that supposed to mean?
34:47 --> 34:49 So we're probably pronouncing it wrong, too. It's probably a fascinating.
34:51 --> 34:51 I think it is.
34:52 --> 34:54 I mean, you think it's facts.
34:54 --> 34:58 I don't know. Fax them. Let's ask him. Send the paperwork in.
35:00 --> 35:00 Yeah.
35:00 --> 35:04 Well, all right. Well, no, that's right.
35:04 --> 35:06 What's your easy game you picked, much.
35:06 --> 35:15 Like when Smokey sings. I also have a pick for 1987. I got a list, brother. I got 100 of these songs.
35:15 --> 35:21 You know what's funny is, like, literally everything that you have named, I have played on my 80s night. I know my DJ stuff.
35:21 --> 35:23 Why we're going through this.
35:23 --> 35:24 Okay.
35:24 --> 36:12 So much like Cap, comes time to, you know, we gotta fight for our right to party and to play Mega Man 1. Mega man won. It's Gonna be my runner up for 1987. Though not the strongest injury into the Mega man title. We all know that. We've argued this on numerous occasions. Although. However, when Jake beat beats Mega Man 1, he feels like he can take on a bulldozer with his chest because then he attempted to play every single version of Mega Man 1 and then promptly gave up, I think after he was done with the Genesis version of the Wily Wars. Or did you beat that one too? You were on a tear. You're also totally muted. You are going off on a tangent. We cannot hear a single word you're saying. But we love you anyways.
36:12 --> 36:29 Well, it's a good thing because I was swearing anyway. But no, I'm glad you remember how great of a gamer I am. Charged. Because, yeah, I beat Mega Man 1 After decades of not being able to. And I beat on the nes, I beat it on the Genesis, and I. Even that PSP game that nobody plays, and I like that one a lot. So I beat everyone.
36:29 --> 36:31 I like that one too. That one was good.
36:31 --> 36:31 Yeah, you.
36:31 --> 36:33 Hey, I'm gonna.
36:33 --> 36:36 Dominated every Mega Man One version that was out there.
36:36 --> 36:40 I'm gonna point something out. This is a game with a password system.
36:40 --> 37:03 It is a game of the password system. See, there is a. Definitely a running we're doing together. Thank you. Not only are we picking great songs from 1987 for each segue, we're also talking about games with a password system. This one, I think had all the circles, though. The circles and the numbers and the letters. It was alphanumeric and you had to, like, line up. Was that in two? I don't remember if one did that.
37:03 --> 37:10 Just a basic circle grid. I think it was the later games that had the two different grids at some point in different colors. This was just one color circles.
37:11 --> 37:57 This game was great. But you didn't have the slide. You didn't have the Mega Buster because obviously that came in way, way later editions. And this was just the basic. Arguably one of the greatest video game covers to any single video game. We've had very lengthy discussions about that on numerous episodes. Like our ranking of Mega man episodes. But, you know, dude with the Glock definitely portrays Mega Buster. I do say so myself. But let's. Let's get into the rock paper, scissors of the game. You know, of course each boss has its weaknesses. That's where this whole thing kind of started. But I think the worst, the one thing that this game, I think I'm glad that they removed was the boss rush motion in this game where you literally had to take on all the bosses again, like in the wily stages.
37:57 --> 37:58 Yeah.
37:58 --> 38:24 But there was no rest for the wicked. You had to go. After you fought that boss, you were lucky if they gave you a power pellet to life up and then move on to the next boss fight. This game was exceptionally difficult. I have beaten it. I have finished it. I'm proud to say that I am standing with Jake proudly beating my chest to the Mega Man 1 series is. But this did not come with a few headaches throughout my playthrough of this game.
38:25 --> 38:31 Did you cheat? Did you use the. The power. The glitch where you pause and you do glitch.
38:31 --> 38:31 The.
38:31 --> 38:36 The Cyclops. I didn't find that out until after I beat him. And wait, I didn't know that was the thing you could do.
38:37 --> 38:39 You can in this game only if you rapid pause.
38:40 --> 38:51 Yeah. Yep. Every time you pull up the menu. If you're. If you. The Electro Zap and it hits an enemy, you just hit the pause button numerous times. It just continues multiple times. Yeah, it will completely.
38:53 --> 39:05 The Yellow, Yellow Devil boss was hard to learn the patterns. And that's why whenever I see people play this game on twitch or on YouTube, they're always doing the pause glitch on the Yellow Devil. But I've actually beaten it the way you're supposed to. And it is a chore.
39:05 --> 39:13 I have a clip of that. Yeah. It is beginning of my Twitch title that I am freaking the fuck out because I finally beat that thing. Because I beat it the right way.
39:13 --> 39:16 Is this Mega man or Final Fantasy 13?
39:18 --> 39:19 Lots of tunnels.
39:19 --> 39:20 That's the same. Lots of tunnels.
39:20 --> 39:22 Well, it's my favorite tunnels.
39:24 --> 39:36 This is. This is definitely homage to Sinistar and his love of tunnels. But no, this is definitely Capcom's, like, beginning of greatness had to come.
39:36 --> 39:44 I want to say that, like, of all the Mega man games, this one, the Rock Paper Scissors makes the most sense to me.
39:44 --> 39:45 Absolutely.
39:45 --> 39:46 It's all downhill from here.
39:46 --> 39:47 Absolutely.
39:47 --> 39:55 Like, all the names, all the names align. It's not like Tree man and like Snore man and like, you know, Metal.
39:55 --> 40:00 Man works with Tree man and it's like man, Big toe.
40:00 --> 40:03 Big Toe Man. Like, I never got Big Toe man.
40:03 --> 40:05 And Corner Wall Man.
40:06 --> 40:10 That's right. And Triangle man and Triangle Man.
40:10 --> 40:13 Dora. The universe versus Toe Man's power.
40:16 --> 40:17 But we all hate Human Man.
40:18 --> 41:09 We all don't care for Human Man. Flesh man on the head with a frying pan. I love this. I Love Mega Man. 1 Of course, I, I much prefer the other entries, like Mega Man 2 is my favorite out of the whole series. But this is definitely a great, A great game that started a great franchise. And we always argue, you know, without this, would we have this kind of thing. We say that all the time when we do our ranking systems. Yeah, and, and this might be one of those where Mega Man 1 steamed forth a bunch of really cool. That then included, you know, your guys's 300x games that you like and, and, and the subsequent things that followed that. So without Mega man, we wouldn't have very many of these really cool type games. So Mega Man 1 definitely has to be at least a runner up in 1987 for me.
41:10 --> 41:26 Yeah, if you did like a running, a Running Gun platforming Pillars episode or Mount Rushmore, this has got to be up there. You can't have two without this. And even if you just took this game as, as a standalone from. And forget the rest of the franchise, this is still a solid platforming game for the, for the 80s.
41:26 --> 41:40 Yeah, for sure. For sure. I mean, it's. Difficulty aside. I mean, that's what we deal with. Right. There were a lot of difficult things in the 80s that we were playing. Yeah, it's the NES. It is what it is, but it's not on the apple.
41:42 --> 41:44 This is much more than five minutes long. That's true.
41:44 --> 41:57 Three frames per second. Yeah. I didn't have to flip any discs when I went to an xbox. You know, that was. The challenge was try to find the disc for the next level. That's why you guys never made it past the third one.
41:57 --> 42:02 Yeah. Anyways, look, we're not talking rescue raiders tonight.
42:02 --> 42:22 We're not talking restorators. All right, guys, so we are. We are now about to talk about our number ones. And I'm just gonna go in the same order that we went with last time. We're gonna head back to Funky Town and meet up with our good friend Wolf and ask him, what is your game of the year for 1987?
42:23 --> 42:32 All right. In what will likely come as a surprise to nobody ever who knows me, my pick for 1987 is zillion.
42:35 --> 42:35 Yeah.
42:36 --> 42:38 And I'm shocked.
42:38 --> 42:40 I'm shocked. It's not bar tail.
42:40 --> 42:48 I gotta say, it still holds up for me. This video that you are about to play, I recorded today. And I beat it.
42:49 --> 42:52 There's a game we beat. All right, we're getting on the beat today.
42:53 --> 43:00 I beat it today. Hour and 45 minutes. And that was while fiddling with the 3D printer. So.
43:02 --> 43:04 Oh, does it have wall meat?
43:05 --> 43:05 It has wall.
43:05 --> 43:07 It has wall bread.
43:07 --> 43:09 It has more wall bread.
43:09 --> 43:10 It's bread.
43:10 --> 43:12 It has beef Wellington.
43:13 --> 43:18 Future. Beef Wellington in the future's preserved better in the walls.
43:18 --> 43:22 Beef Wellington, like the cybernetic combination of bread and meat.
43:22 --> 43:25 Is that mushrooms? Mushrooms are in there too.
43:26 --> 43:28 Oh, and it has ducking. It has duck.
43:29 --> 43:30 It has crawling.
43:30 --> 43:36 It has crawling. Not just ducking, but crawling. This is a. This is leaps and bounds better than facts.
43:36 --> 43:36 And it is.
43:36 --> 43:49 Yeah, that's true. You can. You can duck in this one. That's infinitely better than facts. And to do. That's the power of the Master System network right here. Infinite is why it was a superior system. Everybody wanted the Master system chart. Everybody wanted this game.
43:49 --> 43:54 They did Nintendo. Who Nintendo Crawl on the ground. That's what it don't do.
43:56 --> 44:05 I. I know we talked about this wolf in the. In the past, but you have to explain what you even do in this game because I still am confused about how you beat this game. Like you had you collect passwords. Is that what it is?
44:06 --> 44:07 Okay.
44:07 --> 44:10 Yo, is that a fantasy Zone call out right there?
44:11 --> 44:46 Yes. Opal OPA is your level ups was actually in the Zillion anime for some reason. I don't know why. And I do think it's funny. When you beat the game, it tells you like all their. Like the day they were born, which is like in 2370 something for everybody. And then it tells you their height. For the boys, it tells you their weight. Not the girls because they're classy like that. And then for Opa Opa, it tells you like his height, his width, his wingspan.
44:48 --> 44:53 The details. You want to know really is OPA OPA's no birthday for OPA, though.
44:53 --> 44:57 I. Yeah, I live for the never birthing of OPA opa.
44:58 --> 45:54 But yes. So in any given room, the idea is to break all the canisters and you need key cards, which you find in some of them. And you need to find the passcode for most rooms. Most rooms have a passcode to open up a door, elevator. To continue on those passcodes are four random numbers from zero through nine. And you know, they look like M. Rabbit ears, whatever, but they're just. Except for 4 and 0, they're all easily recognizable as mirrored. Like a 1 kissing itself, a 2 kissing itself, and so forth. Yeah, 4 is weird because it looks like a U with two lines through it, which I don't understand what they got there. And zero is just a single zero. Oh, and eight is sideways. Instead of being Forced.
45:54 --> 45:55 So it's an Infinity.
45:56 --> 46:04 Yeah, yeah. But it's easy enough. Once you recognize what they are, you just. It's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 or 0.
46:04 --> 46:07 Is that a Glock I see there's a Glock.
46:07 --> 46:15 It is the Zillion Gun, which you might recognize as the Master System Light Gun because they use the same model.
46:15 --> 46:16 Nice.
46:16 --> 46:17 Which I love, actually.
46:17 --> 46:21 I like that the beam that you turn off doesn't disappear.
46:22 --> 46:26 No, it just hangs out. It just freezes. Yeah. Yeah, it's just hanging out.
46:27 --> 46:31 True to life. That's how physics work with electricity. Just freezes the arc in the midair.
46:31 --> 46:33 Light lightsabers, my friend.
46:34 --> 46:40 That's true beam right there.
46:42 --> 46:50 There's that. You have to find your way through the maze. Also finding five floppy disks and a red ID card.
46:50 --> 46:51 So what?
46:51 --> 46:59 I play Marvel Magic because you need the five floppy disks and the red ID card to activate the base self destruct sequence at the end.
46:59 --> 47:00 Okay.
47:02 --> 48:05 On your path, on your journey, you will find the other two Zillion White Knights, I think they're called. I don't remember. It's been a long time since I actually watched the anime. But their names are Apple and Champ. And so each character can get up to level eight. They all start at level one with a base level of gun. Except for I think Champ actually might start with level two. I don't recall. But yeah, you. Yeah, well, you get him really late game, so they had to give him something, right? But yeah, everybody can get to level 8. There's a lot more OPO was hidden in the map than there are than you need to level up. Everybody. So if you get a level up when somebody's already level 8, it'll max their health back out. As you get higher levels, your. Your movement speed goes up, but it's a hidden stat. Your jump height gets higher. That is not a hidden stat. Your defense gets higher. That is a hidden stat.
48:05 --> 48:08 So that makes sense, right?
48:08 --> 48:15 It's a little frustrating to like try and gauge what's what. You don't know who's. Who's powerful, how and Right.
48:16 --> 48:18 Why does this guy look like Captain Planet?
48:18 --> 48:22 I was just saying that. Is that Captain Planet coming together?
48:22 --> 48:27 It's because he's got his environment blue headset on is what that is.
48:30 --> 48:33 Should I watch the anime? Is the anime worth watching? Like, is it good?
48:34 --> 48:43 It's cheesy as hell. The music is rad, which is the music that they used in the game, which is rad. So there's that.
48:43 --> 48:44 Okay. That's pretty good.
48:46 --> 49:05 Yeah. The anime is really cheesy and I don't think the whole series was translated into English. And then for some reason what was translated into English, like some of it is super serious and then some of it takes place years later and is like kind of goofy and doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Canonically.
49:07 --> 49:12 This game doesn't appear to make a whole lot of sense. It's like Flashback. Before Flashback was Flashback.
49:12 --> 49:17 Yeah, it's an early Metroidvania.
49:17 --> 49:18 Right?
49:18 --> 49:21 I was gonna say this game has a fair amount of complexity to it.
49:22 --> 49:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
49:23 --> 49:57 It has three main segments. So there's the light blue, there's the red section, and then the dark blue is the end of the game. The dark blue area is the most difficult to traverse, navigate and figure out where the fuck to go to move on even further because you'll have, you'll get access to like one side of a room and do all the door mechanism and then the other side of the room has a door that opens. It's like, okay, now you can go do something over there, but you have to figure out how to get over there in the first place.
50:00 --> 50:29 I do like how this game, much like our theme is about passwords, but in this case the past. The passwords are the game, password entry, the game. I, I've always wanted to get into this game. I've tried several times but I've never, I guess, sat down and learned how to play it. Right. I always played it like a platforming game and that's not how you play this game. This is very much an in depth game and it's got a lot of stuff to it. It's neat though. It's very unique. There's nothing quite like this on Nintendo. Like this is a really rad game.
50:30 --> 50:46 And it definitely requires exploration and backtracking because you aren't going to find all five floppy disks if you don't. You're not going to find the red ID card if you don't. So you're not going to be able to beat the game or you're not even going to be able to fight the final boss if you don't do that.
50:46 --> 50:46 Right.
50:46 --> 50:57 When you do beat the final boss after you set the base this the the base self destruct sequence, you get to fight the final boss and escape all within five minutes.
50:58 --> 51:02 Okay, that seems like a good moral madness before you finish the game.
51:03 --> 51:12 I think when I did it today I had about 45 seconds on the clock when I got out. Nice and it's not just get out of the base. It's get in your ship so that they leave.
51:14 --> 51:15 Okay.
51:15 --> 51:18 Too. Wow.
51:18 --> 51:21 Nice. Oh, that's. That looks like a fun game.
51:22 --> 51:43 Well, all right. That's a victory for you, wolf. So well done on that one. I real. That's a brilliant disguised game with passcodes and whatnot. So let's go ahead and head on over to Sinistar so he can respect himself and figure out what is your game of the year, sir.
51:44 --> 51:45 Okay.
51:45 --> 51:48 My game of the year for 100 of these songs.
51:48 --> 51:48 Yeah, you are.
51:48 --> 51:50 I'm pretty impressed, actually.
51:50 --> 52:01 You're working hard or hardly working. Was that the answer?
52:02 --> 52:03 No. Okay.
52:03 --> 52:06 I just keep throwing out 1987 movies here and there.
52:09 --> 52:29 My game of the year for 1987 is a little known, you know, shop that put out a handful of games that nobody speaks of, ever. The game is called Space Quest 2 Vohal's Revenge. The publisher is Sierra, of course.
52:29 --> 52:35 Sierra was a juggernaut in the 80s with King's Quest, Police Quest, Space Quest.
52:36 --> 52:48 Defied my keys, Hero Quest, Hero Quest, which became Quest for Glory because they had a naming issue. Yeah. And of course, we all know about Leisure Suit Larry.
52:49 --> 52:49 Of course we do.
52:50 --> 53:29 Yeah. There's actually a couple Easter eggs in this game that point to Leisure Suit Larry, but. Okay, so this game basically picks up at the end of the Original Space Quest 1. You have defeated Vohal in Space Quest 1. He basically comes on the screen even though you saved the universe. Everybody's forgotten about it and you've gone back to being a janitor. Well, you've been promoted to lead janitor on a team of one, but you've been promoted to lead janitor.
53:29 --> 53:31 Fantastic. No competition.
53:32 --> 54:41 Exactly. Yeah. So. But Vohal comes on the screen and tells you that he's upset and that you've defeated him, and he is planning on releasing a squadron or a group or a horde of genetically modified insurance salesmen on your home planet. And basically. Well, yeah, and especially. Especially the humor side of Sierra. Right, right, right. But basically he is trying to take away the will to live from everybody on your home planet. Yep. So the original theme song is Fantastic. Smacks of not only Star Trek, but Star Wars. It's kind of this amalgamation that, like, it plays out. You have some really cool experiences on different environments, including an environment where basically the people look like the people from Planet of the Apes. It is Sierra Hard, which means you.
54:41 --> 54:43 Have save early, save often.
54:43 --> 54:52 Yeah, absolutely. And you have. You have 8 million ways to die. And a lot of them, you Will do. Over and over and over again.
54:52 --> 54:53 Right.
54:53 --> 55:25 No matter how hard you try. Right now, one of my favorite. One of my favorite bits is how much of this plays into the later games as well. There's a scene, in fact, you're doing it right now on the video, where you order a whistle that's going to distract this monster. Or distract. Or call. I don't remember which. But being that it's in the future, the shipping is instantaneous. So you get it as you order it. It's a mail order.
55:25 --> 55:26 It's Amazon.
55:26 --> 55:41 Yeah. But in. I think it's in Space Quest. Space Quest three or four, this bounty hunter bot shows up to murder you because you failed to pay the shipping and handling for this whistle.
55:43 --> 55:45 God damn it. I love Sierra.
55:45 --> 55:50 Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. So. But it.
55:50 --> 55:52 Play these games, you should.
55:52 --> 56:22 You should hold up. They do hold up. I would highly suggest a walkthrough because, honestly, this was the era of they wanted you to try everything, no matter how much sense it made or not. Okay. We are in a scene right now with a root creature, and you literally have to walk this maze, and there are areas where it is one pixel from death. I can't tell you how many times I've done this.
56:23 --> 56:23 Yeah.
56:23 --> 56:25 So, yeah.
56:26 --> 56:46 So I remember this from, like, early King's Quest games where you have to navigate some of these walkthroughs with Graham. And like you said, it is literally pixel perfect. Like, if you just. If you press right just to tap too much, it's over. Game over, man. Game over, man. You're screaming at aliens.
56:47 --> 57:02 But I love it for that, though, because, like, when I. When we played Secret Monkey island on an earlier episode, which is the first LucasArts adventure game I had ever played, I was shocked at how you never die, because I was. Your games where you die every freaking screen.
57:02 --> 57:04 Yeah, you die. There's so many deaths on one screen.
57:05 --> 57:44 And that was Lucas. Lucasarts, in fact, in Monkey island says, hey, you. If you'd been playing a game by somebody else, you probably would have died right here. Like, they basically poke fun at the whole thing. One of the. Now as. As hard as these are like, and the deaths, they try to make it entertaining. Like, the death dialogues are always kind of fun or cute or whatever. In this case, with the. With the. The, you know, tentacle or the root creature, it talks about how, you know, you died. It was horrible, but. But to make you feel better, you caused the creature some indigestion.
57:45 --> 57:45 Yeah.
57:46 --> 57:50 So, you know, it didn't have a good night after it ate you. So.
57:51 --> 57:53 Wow. Yeah, at least there's that.
57:54 --> 58:31 Yeah. This is another one, by the way, if you play these wolf. This is one where there are times that it's a tight. It's a type adventure. You have to type things in and there are. There are moments where you have to type fast. Like there's things coming at you and it doesn't pause the game when you start typing. There's also things like. This is. Sorry, this is the exploration thing. There's also areas where if you just say dive, you drown immediately. You have to type in, take a breath and then type dive.
58:33 --> 58:47 So, yeah, it's also one of those games where right from the first screen of the game, right when you're. When you're the janitor and you're making your way up to the. The dock, you have to search your locker because there's items in the locker you need and some of those items you don't need too much later on in the game. It's one of those.
58:47 --> 58:51 The cubic's rube. The cubic's rube you need much later.
58:51 --> 58:55 I think there's a jock strap you take as well. I think you use a slingshot later.
58:55 --> 58:58 You use that later against the Planet of the Apes people.
58:59 --> 59:30 Yes. But I just love, like the. The environments are pretty varied. I like the different elements of gameplay. One of my favorite sequences, where you. You're going. You're on your hands and knees crawling through tunnels with the gem. Yeah, there's creatures in there. That's freaking wild. I have a lot of memories of this game. I. I don't think I ever. No, I did beat this once, I think. But this is the only Space Quest game I played. I played a bunch of the Sierra games, but this is the only Space Quest I played. And I really do want to go back and play the other ones. But you know what it is, is I like this graphical style. Was it dga? I don't like the newer.
59:31 --> 59:32 This was cga.
59:33 --> 59:38 Okay. But this is the graphical style like, of Sierra Games. I don't like the newer style. They end up switching to later on, actually.
59:38 --> 59:43 I'm sorry, this. This is probably ega. Looking at the number of colors. This is probably ega.
59:43 --> 59:44 Yeah.
59:44 --> 59:52 See, I like the upgraded, like the King's Quest 5 upgraded. Look where it has a little bit more depth. I like that. Look over this.
59:52 --> 01:00:29 Well, and. And they did release. I think Space Quest one, but not two was in. Was done as part of the VGA mixes that they did the later releases. Oh, this is an example. This is an example of try something and. And because like there's nothing explaining how to. How to figure out this part of the. The quest. Literally you just climb this. This trunk and then it breaks and becomes a bridge. There's no like, it tells. It tells you that it's kind of old and craggy, but it never explains that this will just become a bridge if you climb it.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:30 Crack.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:45 There's other trees in the game where if you climb them, the one I remember climbing, you stick to it and you get eaten alive by bugs. It could just. It's one of those kind of games again. You die every screen and it's always fun. There's just a lot of jam. Batman.
01:00:45 --> 01:00:47 Yeah. You almost ate the big one.
01:00:49 --> 01:01:24 Anyway. Yeah. Space Quest and the series. The series is absolutely clever from front to back. The guys that made it, they did do a Kickstarter. I think it's 10 years in and it may still not have released. They're called two guys from Andromeda. But the, the original Space Quest games are fantastic. I mean, honestly, other than like maybe code name Iceman, it's hard to go wrong with Sierra Games.
01:01:25 --> 01:01:29 True. I would agree with that strongly. I was a big series.
01:01:29 --> 01:01:31 Iceman. Police Quest game.
01:01:32 --> 01:01:44 No, it's. It's a espionage spy spy game. And it's not good. It's. It's on the list of like, bad. It's. It's not quite as bad as Dark Half.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:51 They're not all first round draft picks. Okay. So sometimes you just gotta get a. You gotta get a Mr. Irrelevant. It happens.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:52 Yeah.
01:01:52 --> 01:02:17 All right. Hey, that was Casanova of a pick there. Semistar. So very happy with that. We're gonna. We're gonna go ahead and. Much like Gloria Stefan in the Miami Sound Machine. And the rhythm that's gonna get you. So is Jake's pick for game of the year of 1987? Jake, what is the big time pick that you have for 1987?
01:02:18 --> 01:02:23 Charlie, I can't keep up. All these Michael Jackson quotes. It's just. I can't do it.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:26 Which is actually a song on here.
01:02:27 --> 01:02:27 Is it?
01:02:27 --> 01:02:28 I haven't figured out how to weave that one.
01:02:29 --> 01:02:30 The movie came out that year.
01:02:31 --> 01:02:34 Oh, is that the. Is that the answer to your trivia question?
01:02:34 --> 01:02:36 No, no. He's just yelling out movie names.
01:02:36 --> 01:02:39 I have a feeling I've seen that one. I have a feeling.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:49 Very carefully treading these move these song titles. And I'm just throwing movie names at you guys to be cool too.
01:02:52 --> 01:02:54 Lavama was pretty good.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:54 It's a great.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:59 We have a. We have another game password. We have another game with a password.
01:02:59 --> 01:03:46 That's true. Which is also a franchise, which is pun. Punch Out. My game. My game of the year of 87 is Punch Out. And how could it not be? Somebody had to pick Punch out. And I'm happy to pick it. It's one of the best games on the system, period. Never mind just 87. But it has passwords and you'll use them a lot because the later stages, the later circuits are brutally difficult on the timing. And this is. If you want to talk about hard games, you have Kirby and you have this pretty much. Is this the jumping difficulty? Right? You have this Kirby and then this. This game is brutal. I've never beaten this game. I've tried so many times over the years. I always get to like that last circuit with Macho man and, and Soda Pop and. And then Tyson. I think I made the Tyson the handful of times and he just wrecks my. My clock. Like, I just can't. Just can't do it.
01:03:46 --> 01:03:49 Wasn't Sandman up there in the last one as well?
01:03:50 --> 01:04:00 He is. I can't remember the last order. Was it. Is it. Is it Sandman Dream? Tyson? Because it's. It's tough because later versions of this, they took out Tyson for reasons.
01:04:01 --> 01:04:01 Yeah, yeah.
01:04:01 --> 01:04:23 People can look up. So they've. They've definitely released this. But when this came out in 87, it did come with Mike Tyson and it was pretty brutal. But the gameplay in this is. Still holds up. Like the controls. There are so few games that have controls this tight and there's no other boxing game that has controls that feel this good. Like, period. Like, this is the boxing game to me.
01:04:24 --> 01:04:28 Including later Punch out games, including they.
01:04:28 --> 01:04:46 They definitely carry this controlling over with like each game and each subsequent improvement to the game. This game is so tight to play. I. I can't. I can't even believe even firing it up on an emulator, you're still like, holy, this thing snaps real good. Like it's really.
01:04:46 --> 01:04:47 It's just fun.
01:04:48 --> 01:04:48 Yeah.
01:04:48 --> 01:04:48 Yeah.
01:04:48 --> 01:04:49 This is a good.
01:04:49 --> 01:05:24 The only game that comes close is maybe the Wii Punch out. But even, even that, I'd rather play this. Any one. Like this is one of those games where if I'm. I got five, 10 minutes, I'm not going to beat it like Marl of Madness. But I could definitely have fun for 5, 10 minutes playing punch out. And I usually get a few fights in, but it's just snappy controls. The music is Pretty great. When you. You the. What do you call the little cinematic when you're between bouts where you're jogging in your pink tracks. Yeah. Chasing after you. That's iconic. I just love all the cutscenes, the advice he gives you between rounds. It just.
01:05:25 --> 01:05:31 And of course, the. And of course, the. The slight racism between rounds, you know?
01:05:31 --> 01:05:32 Yeah, yeah.
01:05:32 --> 01:05:34 Piston Honda is not racist at all.
01:05:35 --> 01:05:40 No, no. Well, I mean, this game was made in Japan, but no, that's the. That's the.
01:05:40 --> 01:05:49 For sure. That's the strongest part of the Honda, bro. Works. It's an important part. You got to have a piston in your Honda, bro.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:54 It's not racist. Racist gag about their people.
01:05:54 --> 01:05:54 Sure.
01:05:55 --> 01:05:57 It's not a Rotor Mazda.
01:05:58 --> 01:06:00 It might be a little racist when they do it about everyone else, though.
01:06:02 --> 01:06:03 I'm not gonna argue.
01:06:03 --> 01:06:04 Or is it just south park at that point?
01:06:05 --> 01:06:06 It's just south park at that point.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:08 South park can get away with it.
01:06:08 --> 01:06:19 But no, anyway, I mean, this game is so iconic. A buddy of mine, for Halloween dressed as Little Mac, he found a pink jumpsuit to be Little Mac.
01:06:20 --> 01:06:21 Wow.
01:06:21 --> 01:06:22 Yeah.
01:06:22 --> 01:06:32 Very nice. Was it. Little Mac was on one of the. One of the TV shows, and he was one on the cartoons. One of the super on the Mario Brothers.
01:06:32 --> 01:06:36 Not Little Mac, but the King Hippo was a bad guy in Captain.
01:06:36 --> 01:06:40 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Captain Nintendo. That's what I was thinking of, is Captain Nintendo.
01:06:40 --> 01:06:41 Yeah. I love that cartoon.
01:06:42 --> 01:07:09 I. I specifically remember everybody would get to King Hippo and just do that trick, you know, to beat the. Out of him. And I was like, yo, this is easy. And I get to him, and he stomped my face in every time. I was like, how the hell did everybody just make this fight look like a cakewalk? And then eventually I figured it out, but I was much, much older and much more patient than I was back then. I was like, why is this guy just beating the. Out of me every time I fight him?
01:07:09 --> 01:07:16 What's funny is. What's funny is everybody says that they have a really hard time with Tiger, whatever his name. Tiger.
01:07:17 --> 01:07:17 Yeah.
01:07:17 --> 01:07:21 I. He is actually one of my easiest to beat.
01:07:21 --> 01:07:26 Yeah. You just look at the gem, right? It's the gem Sparkles. That's the. That's the gimmick. If you can get the gimmick.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:30 And I'm talking, like, I can do the spinning attack defense.
01:07:30 --> 01:07:30 Right.
01:07:30 --> 01:07:31 Without fail.
01:07:32 --> 01:07:32 Yeah.
01:07:32 --> 01:07:33 It's fun.
01:07:33 --> 01:07:34 Yeah. The one that used.
01:07:34 --> 01:07:35 It's impressive.
01:07:35 --> 01:07:54 It got me for years, and it still. It still gets me even now half the time. Is bald bull. He does that charge. He goes on top of the screen and then he comes down and somebody point out the trick that you look for the guy in the crowd with the camera and it flashes. That's what you punch. But the timing on that is incredibly difficult to nail down. So I still struggle with him even now.
01:07:54 --> 01:07:58 And second round, bald boy is, is so much worse.
01:08:00 --> 01:08:01 Second round is really tough.
01:08:01 --> 01:08:02 Yeah.
01:08:02 --> 01:08:06 Like, I had a, I had a. He was a pretty big wall for a long time before I could take.
01:08:06 --> 01:08:07 I wanna.
01:08:07 --> 01:08:13 Then you get on the next guy and you're just like, this guy's just kicking dirt in my eyes. I, I can't get any further than these dudes.
01:08:13 --> 01:08:31 I want to call out. I want to call out the lack of realism in this game because you go and you become, you become the champion of each circuit and somehow the people you have defeated to become the champion of the circuit are there in the next circuit.
01:08:31 --> 01:08:32 Yeah.
01:08:32 --> 01:08:33 Yeah.
01:08:33 --> 01:08:37 They all paid the extra fee to get into the second, the second stage.
01:08:37 --> 01:08:39 They're like, we want, we want to go again.
01:08:39 --> 01:08:41 And they're all better. They're all.
01:08:41 --> 01:08:42 They're always.
01:08:42 --> 01:08:43 Yeah.
01:08:44 --> 01:08:46 Where was this? I thought you're gonna time you.
01:08:47 --> 01:09:03 I thought you were gonna point out the. How would. How wrong it is that Little Mac is like a third of the height of everybody. Well, but then I'm just gonna say. Well, I just mean Kevin Hart could play Little Mac in a movie. That's, that's, that's what we all, we all need. Kevin Hart as Little Mac in the Punch out the. The movie.
01:09:04 --> 01:09:07 Peter Dinklage is Little Mac.
01:09:08 --> 01:09:09 Oh my God.
01:09:10 --> 01:09:10 I'm sorry.
01:09:11 --> 01:09:12 Wow.
01:09:12 --> 01:09:19 That's sinistar@podcastcancel.com send all your emails care sinisterpodcast me to cancel dot com.
01:09:21 --> 01:09:23 This was his last episode. I thought.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:24 Yeah, it's been nice, guys.
01:09:26 --> 01:09:51 What a send off. No, Punch out's a great game. This is a great choice. This was definitely challenging, but it had its humor in it. I love the. Like you said, the different, like everybody had a different skill that you had to watch out for and a different cue and I really like, I'm a big, I'm a big patterns guy, so I'm a big fan of watching the patterns do what they're doing. So I think that's, that's pretty dope. This is a great pick.
01:09:54 --> 01:09:57 Bridget says she's gonna send me some hate mail.
01:09:57 --> 01:10:02 Good. Also, Captain Nintendo was your high school and nickname, apparently.
01:10:02 --> 01:10:09 Captain N. Man. That's Captain N. All the cool kids just called Him. Captain N. Well, I wasn't very cool in my youth. No. Okay.
01:10:09 --> 01:12:31 Speaking of not being cool. Well, I'm the last one, right? That's it. All right. Nothing's gonna stop us now as we do a shakedown. And we don't dream it. Don't dream it's over. Of the greatest game of 1987. Now, you can either select this with or without you, but you're allowed to Monet. Monet with the lady in red. And we. Dear Lord, didn't we almost have it all? We did. Because you know what we had, guys? We had Final Fantasy. We had the first Final Fantasy to grace our little Nintendo streams from head to toe. It was Final Fantasy. That was me. It still is. As you look at my wall. Get your bingo cards out. Final Fantasy was Pog. I love this game. This game was broken and janky and still remains so to this day. Spells that didn't work. Rub a spell. Supposed to just be like a race. Nah, it doesn't do. But it's there. And you could spend way too much gold farming to try and get spells that didn't work. But it's fine. Because if you can do a white wizard run, you're the greatest rpger of all time. Looking at you. Rabbit beef. But moving forward, you can grab. This was a great one because you could select, you know, you can have four warriors. You can have a red mage that had a combination between white and black magic. You have the black mage that had all the cool black mage power spells. White mage with all the healing stuff. You had the fighter, the fist, you know, the fist fighter guy, the monk that would turn into a ninja later or all kinds of different stuff. This also had kind of a system that allowed your characters to, quote, grow up or level up into different looking classes or whatever, which was really cool after you got the rat's tail. This game was the bane of my existence and also the joy of my life. For most of my youth. I had the original copy of this game. A buddy of mine growing up, me, we played this game religiously all the time. And we could not get past the marsh, the poison marsh. We were stuck there for years. Astos is a. But I'll tell you what. In about 2001, I proudly destroyed Astros and his ass with. With a bunch of weapons in the Poison Swamp and successfully beat Final Fantasy 1.
01:12:31 --> 01:12:34 Dude, poison swaps are your.
01:12:34 --> 01:13:04 Yeah, they're my thing now. That's where it starts, right? This was. This is like the villain origin story of me. Swaps was Final Fantasy 1. Final Fantasy 1 of course was Squaresoft's last attempt at making a game, which is why it's aptly named Final Fantasy. They were very enthralled by the Dungeons and Dragons system so they turned it into a video game to play with. So there's a lot of Dungeons and Dragons types, creatures that you see. Obviously the play style was the same.
01:13:06 --> 01:13:13 They also referenced Ultima quite a bit. The creator was, was a big fan of Ultima.
01:13:13 --> 01:14:30 Yep. And you could see that, you could see that as you play through the game you see a lot of differences and, and correlations between the two. For all this, for all the jankiness and how broken this game was. I love this game. I mean it, it was the thing that I streamed for many, many years when I started up into Twitch. It's created a whole motif and lifestyle that I love in video games. And I, and I measured many, many games. And unfortunately I did not have after the Nintendo I had the SEGA Genesis which is a totally unfortunately but this was my measuring stick for RPGs for forever. And then Final Fantasy 4 came out for the Super Nintendo of course six after that and it just, it just got better. And I couldn't find anything on the SEGA that would match this games energy for me. I loved this game. I still love these games. And without this one I wouldn't have Kane, we wouldn't have Kefka, we wouldn't have any of that. Cool. And Chaos is a cool boss. The, the enemies of the boss in the story of the time traveling story and having going back fighting Garland again. Spoiler alerts. 1987. Get over it. You know, having to fight, finding out that Garland is actually Chaos and this whole thing, it's, it's, it's just really dope. I really, really, really, really like Final Fantasy the original.
01:14:30 --> 01:15:01 So my first experience with this game because I, you know, I was as. I've. As I've said I was. I was an Apple ii kid in 1987, which means I was actually playing the Ultima games. I was, I stayed over, I did a sleepover at a friend's house and he had an NES and he had this game. I'd never heard of Final Fantasy and I was like, oh, Is that an RPG? Fuck yeah. RPGs are my thing. And I had hopes that we would finish it in a night.
01:15:02 --> 01:15:12 No, no, your night was probably spent farming giants over by Elfenheim because that's. I went home longest portion of the.
01:15:12 --> 01:15:20 Game I went home having not Slept the entire night. A little bit, you know, hazy from a night of non sleep.
01:15:20 --> 01:15:21 Yep.
01:15:22 --> 01:15:25 Disappointed. Well, intrigued, but disappointed.
01:15:25 --> 01:15:56 Yep. Understandable. No, Final Fantasy is definitely a grind. This game put the grind in Final Fantasy for sure. I spent hours and hours just walking around grinding for gold. Specifically for gold. It's not even just for levels. But the funny thing is, they don't tell you that as a kid. They don't tell you that you should probably be level 15 before you go into the marsh. And I'm sitting here at level 8, just getting my face stomped in, going, what the. There's a huge hockey stick spike between these, you know, these different areas.
01:15:57 --> 01:16:13 These NES RPGs gave you a real opportunity to wander into places way too soon. Because sometimes luck was on your side just way too much. And then you get to the next area and you're like, I. How am I supposed to be here?
01:16:14 --> 01:16:15 Right? That's crazy.
01:16:15 --> 01:16:19 By the way, Bridget is sending you an email too. Chart.
01:16:19 --> 01:16:25 I'm reading. I'm paying attention, not totally out of it. It's okay. Sorry, I didn't mean to spoil it for you.
01:16:25 --> 01:16:29 Chard Monk. Chard Monk at podcast.press B to cancel dot com.
01:16:30 --> 01:16:39 Can't change my name soon enough anyways. But no. Yeah, there was no hand holding in this game. No. No walkthroughs. What do you got, Jake?
01:16:39 --> 01:16:41 Well, no auto battling.
01:16:41 --> 01:16:44 Yeah, no auto battling. No fast forward. No save states.
01:16:45 --> 01:16:51 Well, by auto battling, I mean just like smashing the button to get through the fights because then you'll. Three people miss something.
01:16:51 --> 01:16:58 Interesting. Yeah, because if you kill something that somebody else kill or if you fight something somebody else kills, they all just whiff.
01:16:58 --> 01:17:01 It doesn't. It doesn't change for the next target.
01:17:01 --> 01:17:17 No, it doesn't change. Smash buttons to get through it. And I. I learned that the hard goddamn way is like, what is everybody whiffing at? What's. What's going on? There's five other things on the screen. What the are you doing? Like six mind flayers, you know, in the marsh. Just like real goddamn head in.
01:17:17 --> 01:17:22 Just like real life, when somebody dies in front of you, you keep swinging at them.
01:17:24 --> 01:17:38 That's how it works. It's all very realistic. Final Fantasy is the most realistic RPG to date and can't confirm. Magic doesn't work. And you just swing and miss when someone dies in front of you. It's perfect.
01:17:38 --> 01:17:42 Yep. No, it's a good pick. This is a good pick.
01:17:42 --> 01:18:26 Yeah, this is like my first major rpg. Like, I think I. I can't Remember if it was this or Dragon Warrior that I got. I played first, but I think. I think it might have been this one where I played at somebody's house. And I'm like, I. This game looks rad. I'd never seen a game like this. I'd never played a turn based RPG before. And the. The assembling your party, the picking the classes, I still love that in Final Fantasy Games. My favorite ones in the franchise are Tactics and was it five that had the job system? The job system I think is fantastic. So it's the other ones I wish would do more of this. I like this one a lot. I've tried doing the randomizer a few times. That's. That's always a trip to do. Yeah. What a. What a great journey this one is. How do you guys remember how long this one is to play through?
01:18:28 --> 01:18:30 Let me go to. Let me go to my mind palace.
01:18:31 --> 01:18:31 Check out your.
01:18:31 --> 01:18:34 I want to guess around 40 hours.
01:18:34 --> 01:18:35 40 hours. Okay.
01:18:35 --> 01:18:37 That's it. Is it really?
01:18:38 --> 01:18:40 Because I am. I have not beaten this since I was a kid.
01:18:40 --> 01:18:42 15 and 25.
01:18:42 --> 01:18:43 Sounds like it. But there's.
01:18:43 --> 01:18:44 That's it.
01:18:44 --> 01:18:44 Really.
01:18:44 --> 01:18:57 Yeah, it's. It does seem like it. I mean that's long for a kid. And especially when you have to grind. Like it makes. It makes it more sense. But if. I mean, if you really put it all together because there's no side to do, you just go forward.
01:18:57 --> 01:19:01 Average average completionist is 19 and a half.
01:19:01 --> 01:19:02 Yeah.
01:19:02 --> 01:19:02 Really?
01:19:02 --> 01:19:03 20 hours.
01:19:03 --> 01:19:08 You know, I might go back and play this one because I. I have vague memories of the game.
01:19:08 --> 01:19:23 Will not respect your time. Dude, it would definitely be. Yeah, you're gonna be like, dude, I. This. This hockey stick is stupid. Well, you're gonna be just like Sinistar fighting the Golden Twins. You're just gonna be.
01:19:23 --> 01:19:28 I have. I have a feeling it's probably best to play this as the Pixel remaster at this point.
01:19:28 --> 01:19:29 Yes, I would agree.
01:19:29 --> 01:19:31 Yeah. The quality of life changes.
01:19:31 --> 01:19:36 Much more to. Much more to stomach on that one. Or even. Even one of the.
01:19:37 --> 01:19:38 Or something.
01:19:38 --> 01:19:52 The advanced version. Probably the advanced. I remember toward the end of the game there's a bit of a sci Fi bent to it and I. I have memories of that, but I have not made it that far in the game and since I was a kid. So this is one of those games where I'd love to go back to. This would probably be a great Sisyphean game for me.
01:19:52 --> 01:20:01 Yeah. If you're out there, you walk into war, which is a Random battle that will annihilate your team if you're not like, hey, how's that.
01:20:02 --> 01:20:04 How's that Sisyphean game going for you?
01:20:04 --> 01:20:08 Yeah, it's installing itself, switching it up to finally speak.
01:20:10 --> 01:20:13 Guys, I'm gonna pivot to Final Fantasy one for my sister.
01:20:13 --> 01:20:16 Hey, I've already. I've already pivoted, so, you know, why not?
01:20:17 --> 01:20:24 I've already beat mine, so. Took me three nights. All right, that's it. That's. That's my game of the year, guys.
01:20:25 --> 01:20:26 That's a good.
01:20:26 --> 01:20:42 All right, so come go with me, Wolf, and tell us. We can't try to guess the. The. The movie you're gonna tell us, but an answer.
01:20:43 --> 01:20:45 I'm looking for a word that works here.
01:20:45 --> 01:20:47 Trying to. I'm trying to weave these in.
01:20:47 --> 01:21:06 All right, I'm gonna give you guys four picks. You each can tell me what you think it is, and then I'll give you the answer. Okay, so we got Platoon, we got Lethal Weapon, we got Beverly Hills Cop 2, and we got Fatal Attraction.
01:21:07 --> 01:21:09 I'm going with Beverly Hills Cop 2.
01:21:09 --> 01:21:10 I'm going platoon.
01:21:12 --> 01:21:14 It is, in fact, Beverly Hills Cop 2.
01:21:14 --> 01:21:15 Okay.
01:21:16 --> 01:21:17 I remember that one being so popular.
01:21:17 --> 01:21:17 87.
01:21:18 --> 01:21:20 Yeah, there we go.
01:21:20 --> 01:21:25 Everybody. Everybody get your axle. Everybody get your Axel Foley song out. Since we're talking.
01:21:30 --> 01:21:31 Platoon was number two.
01:21:31 --> 01:21:32 Okay.
01:21:33 --> 01:21:33 Number two.
01:21:34 --> 01:21:34 All right.
01:21:34 --> 01:21:34 Perfect.
01:21:34 --> 01:21:37 It also is the thumbnail in case you.
01:21:37 --> 01:21:39 It's also a shitty NES game.
01:21:40 --> 01:21:52 Yeah, it's not a good game. There's a lot of movie based games that are trash, but actually we could do an episode Predator. That was bad. There's Platoon.
01:21:52 --> 01:21:57 Well, haven't we already done an episode on, like, movie tie in games that are bad?
01:21:57 --> 01:22:01 Yeah, I don't think we did a lot of NES ones, though. Maybe I'd have to go back and listen to that.
01:22:01 --> 01:22:07 Isn't it every movie tie in game except Quidditch? Isn't it every movie tie in game?
01:22:07 --> 01:22:13 Quidditch is fantastic. That game was amazing for gamecube. I would die to find a copy of that game for my game.
01:22:13 --> 01:22:14 To you.
01:22:14 --> 01:22:42 I love Quidditch. God, that game's so good. All right, well, guys, I think we're at the point of no return. We're also on the right track for the best picks of game of the year 1987. Love you down. I'm gonna squeeze that one in there. We're gonna go ahead, go around Robin and ask what everybody's up to. Wolf, what are you up to these days? And where can people find you? Outside this wonderful podcast.
01:22:44 --> 01:22:56 I don't have anything going on outside the podcast, really. I just built the 3D printer and got it working. I'm happy with it. I gotta get the kids first print going this. This weekend.
01:22:57 --> 01:23:16 I'm about to be happy with it too, because those are the finer things. And Rocksteady. Jake, what are you doing? What are you doing out there? In. In the world that you live in, where can people find.
01:23:16 --> 01:24:20 Apparently, apparently causing too much infant zoom on the podcast to hit a button by mistake. This is it. Anyway, right now I have a new controller I bought a few weeks ago, or I bought it a while ago, but I got it a few weeks ago and I've been testing a hell out of it and I had some issues with it. But the. The guys who make a junk food arcades are doing a firmware update and once I test that out, I will probably make a video talking about it because nobody's really talking about the swirl. That's the name of the controller and it's a really interesting control and I want to talk about it. So I might do that rather than bore you guys for 60 minutes talking about controller again. So I'm probably gonna do that. I'm also playing Ninja Gaiden Ragebound. I tried the demo during was it next summer games festival and I was kind of like on the fence about the demo. The demo felt a little bit off, control wise. But that final game, they polished it. It's really tight gameplay. It's a really great game. So I'm looking forward to Metacritic. Yeah, yeah. I, I, me and my negative three points will stay out of it.
01:24:23 --> 01:24:52 Catching wolf. So I have to. I have to brag about something that to be the best second first place loser that's out there. Yeah, right. So I'm going with it. All right. Can't we try to figure out the island La island bonita that Sinister sitting on. I heard a rumor that you're DJing sometimes. Is that true? Sinister? Where can people find you drop great songs like Hip to be Square and Little Lies on your channel.
01:24:52 --> 01:24:58 Well, it's. I'm actually skipping this weekend, so the rhythm will not be getting me this weekend.
01:24:58 --> 01:24:59 We already use that one.
01:24:59 --> 01:25:05 Yeah, I know, but it f. It fit. It fit. Jesus.
01:25:05 --> 01:25:09 All right. Can't we try a better Everybody, Everybody.
01:25:09 --> 01:25:10 He's let me down again.
01:25:11 --> 01:25:12 I think we're lost boys.
01:25:12 --> 01:25:24 He's. He's. Yeah, he's like. He's like a Depeche Mode song. Except for. Except for he's the opposite he's the opposite of Depeche Mode song. He's not never gonna let me down again.
01:25:25 --> 01:25:25 But.
01:25:27 --> 01:25:43 No, I. I'm skipping this weekend. I'll probably be back this. This next weekend over on Soul Archaic's channel on Saturdays. Otherwise, I am trying to heal.
01:25:44 --> 01:25:46 Sure. Heal the heel.
01:25:47 --> 01:25:48 My heels are trying to heal.
01:25:48 --> 01:26:39 Yeah, that's true. Is this love? No, it's what I'm doing. I'm going to tell you guys what I'm up to. I'm over@twitch www.twitch tv chardmonk. We are currently playing Silent Hill 3. I just fired that up last week. However, I will be taking a. A little bit of a break on Sunday as my sister is coming into town tomorrow because we're going to go see Nine Inch Nails. Now this will be audibly released on Monday. So I'm going to see them tomorrow. To you guys who are listening to this on the audio track, but for today you're going to. I'm going to go see them on Tuesday. So I'm very excited about that. So I'll probably have a lot of things to brag about next Friday's episode when we talk about that. And yeah, yeah. Coming to hang out with me as I'm playing some Silent Hill 3 and just kind of chipping through that. That's what we'll be doing up there.
01:26:39 --> 01:26:50 You can come join me watching chart and telling him your favorite 9 inch nail songs like Thriller. Great track. And Bodyguard. That was one of them, right? I think Bodyguard.
01:26:50 --> 01:26:53 You can not Bodyguard.
01:26:53 --> 01:26:57 But from the Bodyguard you can also catch. Get there.
01:26:57 --> 01:27:04 You tell I'm a musical. I'm a music and a movie aficionado Chart, you can tell absolutely. These cool references I'm keeping up to date on.
01:27:05 --> 01:27:11 You can also catch Sick Jake on this channel beating Marble Madness probably tomorrow.
01:27:12 --> 01:27:33 Well, how about we just. How about we make a group decision that we're gonna go with squad goals this year and our first squad goal is gonna be Marvel Madness. I mean, you guys didn't like my idea about Dragons Lair on the NES and that that's fair. That's fine. That's notoriously not a good game. A Marvel Madness. Everybody loves that game. It might be somebody's runner up for game of the Year. Even. So I think we can all be.
01:27:33 --> 01:27:37 Only on the Apple. Only on the Apple II at three frames per second.
01:27:38 --> 01:27:43 I bet it's easier on the Apple too, because it's slower. I bet you it looked harder.
01:27:44 --> 01:27:44 It did.
01:27:44 --> 01:27:45 So.
01:27:45 --> 01:27:49 Dude, that game was hard as balls, guys.
01:27:50 --> 01:28:04 You may want us dead or alive, but you can certainly find something so strong, like press B to cancel hanging out at the Super Pod Saga Network, where you can find all kinds of fit. It's Super Pod Sog. It's Super Pied. No. What?
01:28:04 --> 01:28:06 Superpower.com.
01:28:06 --> 01:28:09 Whatever. Nope.
01:28:09 --> 01:28:14 It's important because they changed their name. They're no longer Superpod Saga anymore or something.
01:28:14 --> 01:28:16 The Space Super Ghost.
01:28:16 --> 01:28:17 Super Ghost, Yes.
01:28:17 --> 01:29:03 Wow. So, anyways, so we're over at Superpod. You can hang out with us over there. And a bunch of other amazing things like Super Ghost, as well as remember 64. And Thrack is doing his. His Call of Duty things right now. So you can go check out other great podcasts, retro and current gaming podcasts that are over there as well. Guys, this has been. This has been a place where you can meet me halfway. And again, I love you down, all three of you. So I won't say I want your sex, but I'm super pleased to be a part of this podcast. Until next time, this has been breastfeeded cancer. That.
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