Episode 188: Brighter Shores - Big ADHD

[00:00:12] Gaming Together, A Cooperative Podcast, I'm your host Phillip and I'm here with my co-partner Nave. Each pod we play through a cooperative experience and relate to you the listener if this game is the crème de la crème of co-op or something better off playing solo. Hey Nave, what's poppin'? Nothing. I'm a little tired. I've been playing some relaxing stuff lately. Just it's been mellowing me out into sleepiness. You know what I mean? Those like grindy games. We got a lot of grindy game talk today, but we also got one of the king of grindy

[00:00:39] games. As a guest today, we got Bill from Gaming and Collecting and the 3DO Experience. Howdy Bill. Hey guys. Thanks for having me on again. Yeah, it's good to have you back. Always a pleasure. What was the thing that we just recently did? We did the 3DO year-end New Year special. Yeah, you guys need to go check that out. We just hung out and that was a video episode, wasn't it? It was and we learned about the most cursed things on the internet because my sister was there and Aaron prank called

[00:01:06] people. It was great. Yeah, Aaron was prank calling numbers. It's a really dumb episode. But yeah, just a whole bunch of us doing nothing really. But go check that out, listener. Yeah. I got it to meet my phone. That's always a problem. Yeah, Nave, you dummy. Don't edit that out. But we are going to be talking about Brighter Shores this week. Before we get in there, let's just check in with what games we've been playing. So Nave, what games have

[00:01:32] you been playing? I've been playing a lot. Looks like we've all been playing quite a bit. I narrowed it down to three games, the three primary ones. So I'm going through Stalker 2 still and I'm still pretty enamored with it, but I'm getting very violently fucking frustrated with this game, man. Like, I can't tell you the amount of times I have walked around a corner, been shot three times attempting to heal myself, but I bled out

[00:01:59] and then I lost like 28 minutes. Oh, Nave. And I'm over encumbered. And so it's like, oh my God. It's like, there are so many moments where I just want to fucking rip my eyes out. But the game is still insanely immersive. The map is way too big. But in the story mode, I looked it up. I was like, how many main story missions are there? Because I'm really only kind of just doing the story missions. You know what I mean? Because it's not like Fallout.

[00:02:27] You're not really supposed to like wander in a whole bunch of directions. There are like side quests and shit, but you're not really supposed to do them. Like you only really need to do them if you want like money and stuff, if you're playing on harder difficulties so that you have supplies. But like, I've been playing the game for like 11 hours and I'm only like a third of the way through the game. And I've really am like mainlining the main story. So it's blowing my fucking mind. But the main story is really interesting, actually. Like the story itself isn't

[00:02:54] interesting, but like the whole scenario around all of it. So I mean, I'm assuming I'm talking to everyone as if they don't know what stalker is at all. Because it's like, it's really hard to explain because it's around Chernobyl, which is like the nuclear disaster. But there's also so it's like a big area called the zone, which is like cordoned off from like normal people. And then there are just a bunch of factions in there fighting amongst each other. That's one of the coolest things is like

[00:03:18] when you're just, it's so isolating because stalkers work alone. You're like wandering around this wasteland. It's beautiful. And there's like this awesome ambient music playing and the sky's got the aurora borealis in it. And you're like, wow, this is great. And then you hear like gunfire off in the distance, like it's fucking PUBG. And so like people are fighting over there. You hear people scream. Like one time I was like walking to a mission and I'm like, that's a cool building,

[00:03:44] but I have my my backpacks full. And as I was walking past it, I just heard people go like start arguing and then a gunfight breaks out. And then I'm like, what is this? And so I kind of sneak around like I'm watching. I'm like, ooh, am I gonna just participate in a fight that has nothing to do with me? You know what I mean? But you regularly hear people fighting mutants and stuff. It's, it's really cool. One time Oh, I forgot to send this video to you, Philip. I can do this at when I'm done talking about my games, go over there to the Xbox and download the video.

[00:04:14] I put it on a discord for you, but there's, there are rats that like will show. It's like, what is that game with the two kids? Sad children, sad child. Yeah. In Europe, sad children, your plague pestilence, sad children, France, plague pestilence. Yes. It's like that game. But like, so there's a bunch of rats. They'll show up and start nibbling at your

[00:04:38] feet. And if you get on a lot, I learned that if you get, I was running away from them and I got on a ladder. And if you just, as soon as you're on the ladder, they can't touch you. And so like, you can just watch them as they're like swarming right in front of you and you can get real close to them. So I was like, Oh, Philip will love this. And then I forgot about it, but I'm glad I remember just now stalker two is really cool and interesting. Um, I recommend everyone to play it. Anyone who's got game pass. Uh, I bet it plays better on the PC, but, uh, it still doesn't play

[00:05:07] that bad on the exp on the, on the, on the, uh, controller. The thing I was complaining about last week was that I was having a hard time shooting people from further away. I have since, I don't know if you guys can see, but I have a fucking wooden chair that is like a foot and a half away from my TV. It's hard to tell cause my camera's like fish eyed, but, um, I sit right in front of my TV now. And when I'm playing, when I'm playing stalker and, and I have, I have a scope

[00:05:33] on my assault rifle now too. So as soon as I get into a gunfight, I stand an inch from my TV and I'm looking through the leaves like predator, you know what I mean? Like Rambo, I'm like trying desperately to not get murdered. Uh, the game is very tense. Anyway, stalker two people need to try it. Uh, other than that overcooked, overcooked to Philip. I assume it's just one or two,

[00:05:58] whichever one we played, we played too. I'm pretty sure. And, um, so I bought all the DLC and I played it through with Casey, which was horrible. Um, it's fucking frustrating. That game is hard. Some of the DLC levels are agonizing. Like there is, there are a handful of DLCs that they're worse than anything ever before. Like in any of overcooked games, like the problem being

[00:06:25] some of the levels have like all of the shit in like close proximity, like real claustrophobic, like, so it is impossible to precisely pick something up. You have to like pick everything up and throw it away. Just fucking get out of there. Like it's terrible. So, uh, they, they do some wild shit in the game. There's this one campfire DLC where like you get a backpack that has one of the fucking ingredients that you need. So you're just like, stop, stop moving. Stop moving. I

[00:06:52] need marshmallows. God. That's pretty good. Yeah. The games are very fucking frustrating. Uh, but I'm glad that I beat it. We, we got all the, uh, the three stars and everything. I got all the achievements. So I just sat there and grinded for like an extra hour, like washing 400 dishes with the water gun and shit, you know, all that stupid shit. And, uh, I don't know. Overcooked is just very charming, but it's also raised my blood pressure quite a bit, which is one of the reasons why I was so excited

[00:07:21] to start a cozy game. The one that I talked about at the beginning of the episode, which is Final Fantasy 14. And I know Phillip, you have some, you have some history with this game. I really want to hear from Bill what he thinks about Final Fantasy 14 being a hardcore RuneScape three player. Um, I played the free trial. I had fun, but I did not want to pay the money for it. And that was

[00:07:45] kind of as far as I got. Did you, you, so you got like max level? Uh, yeah, I did enough to get, I did. So this is the free trial back on the PlayStation three back when you could get that version. Um, yeah. So it's one of those things where I really enjoyed all of the, what I played of it. I just, I'm in that place with MMOs where I just don't have the time or the commitment,

[00:08:10] um, and the money, like, it's just, how much is a 14 these days? Uh, I think it's like 20 bucks for the normal month for the normal version. Right, Phillip? So is it a month? Is it a subscription? Yeah, you can buy the game, but then that only gives you like a month, I think when you buy it. So let me check. Okay. That's interesting. 14.

[00:08:34] Yeah. I remember the subscription was a bit. Oh, so the monthly price for 30 days is $15. And that gives you eight characters per server. Per server. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's actually matters in case of like RuneScape three, which I think gives you like one character per server, right? Or something like that. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the thing, cause

[00:08:59] RuneScape, you don't have other races. So it's like people like making other characters, like other races, like, you know, just role-playing and shit. Like this is a huge role-playing game. I mean, like a game that people role-play in like Grand Theft Auto five, you know what I mean? Like people go there to do things like that. And, um, I have like, I've not really been exposed to it that much. I played seven hours today. Like this is the first day we, I just started playing it and I played for seven hours, like from when I woke up to just now.

[00:09:29] Um, and I've only seen one, uh, night nudie nightclub being advertised. So I thought that that number was going to be way significantly higher because I watched this cool YouTube video. That was really funny. Do you remember what that YouTube video was, Philip? Oh, I don't know. It's in the goof troop chat. I mean, we haven't posted that much yet. It's in the goof troop. Uh, so the seedy underbelly of final fantasy 14 by Ooh boy. I recommend

[00:09:56] people watch that because it is like a 40 minute odyssey of like wild, just the wild interactions that he's had in the game. He has this story where he made a entire city in a server grind to a halt because he went AFK laying down on a bench and it was this bench that these furries would role play on. And so they went around like whispering to everyone to report it. Trying to get reported. Yeah.

[00:10:22] Yeah. Oh man. It is an amazing, it's very funny. Uh, but, um, I just can't believe like that game when it first came out, the original version was so broken and unplayable and then they managed to like make it one of the best MMOs ever. Yeah. And they wrote the destruction of the original game into the story. Yeah. There's a whole plot about it. It's great. Which is really cool. I'm trying to pay attention to the plot. I can hardly be dicked. Uh, man, the beginning is like, Ooh, I don't care about anything that's happening. Like, I don't,

[00:10:51] I don't know why, but, um, I mean, everyone's like the MMO stories like amazing. This is the MMO that you play for the story. And I'm like, when does it get good? And they're like in the expansion, but I'm like, Oh yeah. What other thing you have to buy? You have to pay for it though. But, um, yeah. So you can get to level 80 on the free trial now. I don't, I, I doubt it was like that, like before, but, um, I don't know. I'm just kind of wandering around having fun. I literally just got

[00:11:18] to the point where I could get on the airship and leave the fucking main area. And I was, I've been playing with Casey the whole time and she was mainlining the story so that she could get to that point. And I was kind of digging off and now we're out of sync with like side shit. Like there's this thing called the duty finder and she has a different mission than I do to begin the duty finder. Cause we, we discovered the duty finder in different ways. And so now I'm like,

[00:11:46] I've been waiting to do this with you because it's like the dungeons in the game, right? You're supposed to do this with a party, but now I can't do it with you because you've got this like 50 level 15 version of this. I'm level 20. So it's like, so now my level is also way out of sync with her. Cause I've been doing like everything I've been wandering around like quest goblin, you know? Yeah. I don't know. It's a really relaxing game. It's really pretty despite looking like a

[00:12:11] PlayStation three game, uh, with the textures and everything. I, one thing that I really love is all of the fucking diverse characters. Like I, there's so many characters running around and standing around and so many pets and like costumes and like, like with the different races, like there's, it's like really interesting to look at and you can go into first person and just kind of like look at people. And I'm just, I don't know. It's fun. Like if I, me and Casey were kind of standing around and just talking into our microphones, we're not talking and chat or anything.

[00:12:41] So, but both of our characters, we ended up looking exactly the same. We're both cat girls. So whoops. So, but, um, with like the same face and everything, like we made the same character and, um, we're sitting there talking and some people just crowded around and started emoting around us. And we're just like, there's like, this is way more interaction in this like random moment than I got in the entirety of bright, brighter shores. I can't wait to talk about

[00:13:09] that. Uh, so I'm excited. It's wild. I did not start playing model fantasy 14 because of brighter shores, but it is just a, uh, a happy accident. Uh, but that's all I've been playing really nice. Nice. So, uh, fuck, what are we doing? Oh yeah. Bill, what do you, what have you been playing? I'm like, where do we go from here? Um, it's been so long since I've

[00:13:34] had a guest. I've been playing a few games, uh, this in this past month, start of this year. God, it's 2025. Um, yeah. So I've been, wait, I found this, this fucking, uh, that picture from Bob's burgers that's been going around. It's like, it's been a rough year. And then Louise is like, it's the first week of January. I feel that shit, man. Oh, you

[00:13:57] know? So I've been, my, my games I've been playing, I've been all over the place. I I've been playing a lot of, um, Mario and Luigi Partisan Time, uh, doing a replay of that right now. Um, really, you, you put M and L P lowercase I T and I was like, what am I looking at? Yeah. I was just hoping you didn't get Mario and Luigi Partisan Time out of that. Um, yeah, it was playing Mario and Luigi Partisan Time, uh, quote unquote, the

[00:14:27] black sheep of the Mario and Luigi series. It, I've been playing it again. It's, it's fine. It's very easy, uh, very linear, uh, fun, fun enough RPG though. Um, crazy alien invasion plot for a Mario game, but yeah. Um, kind of just go, going through that one mostly cause I have a project involving it coming up. I've also been playing a bit of

[00:14:50] syndicate on the 3DO, which is a isometric, um, real time, like tactical strategy game set in this like dystopian future, which has been interesting. It's very, very PC. Like it's definitely a PC game. They just arbitrarily shoved on a console and it, it kind of plays okay. Um, then making my way through that. Um, you'll hear more about that on a certain

[00:15:14] show. I might do. And the last thing I've been playing is this is more just cause I've been bored. I've been on like a Doki Doki literature club, uh, binge again, but nice. I've only, you can only play that game so many times with, before it just gets boring. Cause it's literally the same game every time. So I've been messing around in the mod scene for that game. And oh my God, people are creative. Like there is some mods for that wacky

[00:15:40] different. Oh yeah. Like people, people go like all sorts of different directions. Like some people like to make it a normal visual novel, like without the horror elements. Some people like to make it just like an, an X, like an extreme horror game. Um, I've been playing this one that it, it gets rid of the horror elements, but it still keeps in a lot of like the psychological stuff. Like the fact that these characters are all still kind of fucked up and like, you have to kind of actually like help them. It's been interesting.

[00:16:07] It, it's very good. Like when you just need something just to mess around with and like, uh, just, uh, click buttons and not have to worry about anything. I was laughing though. Cause like one of the ones I was playing, one of the ones I was playing, like, it was like a perfectly normal, like VN, like there was no horror at all. And then suddenly right in the middle of it, there's like a dream sequence. And then the game starts glitching out and like fucking like error screens pop up. I'm like, I'm like, you've lied to me fucking game. I was like, what is this? Um, yeah, I've been messing around with those

[00:16:36] though. It's fun. The game's pretty easy to mod cause it runs off this real, like a very well-known, uh, visual novel engine. So like, you just kind of change files out and it's like new game. It's pretty fun. It's actually pretty cool. It's just, it's weird to think like, I'm really like, like, I don't know. It's very specific. It's like hard to explain around the water cooler. Like, Hey man, what'd you been playing? It's like, okay. So Doki Doki

[00:17:02] literature club, but modified community versions of it. Strange, but okay. Yeah. It's like a guilty pleasure for me. I just find them very amusing. Speaking of amusing. Have you played mouthwashing? Have you? Bill? Not Philip. Philip has played mouthwashing. I have not played mouthwashing yet. Oh man. I think you need to play it. If you like, if you like Doki Doki literature club, well, you probably heard from me a little bit cause I,

[00:17:31] I've got a problem, but, uh, hold on. I'm trying to put something in the thing, but go ahead and continue. Whoever was just about to talk. I was just about to go into my games, which is also a visual novel that I've been playing lately. I'm about four and a half hours into, uh, the non-inary, not the nonary nonary games. Uh, I'm still on nine, nine, nine or nine persons, nine doors, nine people, whatever it is. Uh, but the game's good.

[00:17:56] I'm playing in Japanese. So I'm actually doing really well for myself, I feel because I played maybe like 30 minutes of this game as a child and then not understand how to get out of like the first room. And I'm like, this is just too hard for me. I was just part of a friend or something like that. It turns out you just gotta, you gotta look in the mirror and the numbers are reversed or whatever, you know, stupid. I don't remember which puzzle it was, but, uh,

[00:18:21] not overly difficult language wise. Uh, the second one, um, a virtuous treasure or something like that. I don't remember the title, but it's, it's two games of one. It's like nine, nine, nine, I believe. And then whatever that is. Yeah. The, the next one, which has kanji that I cannot understand as the title, uh, it has a notepad because I think it was also on the DS back in the day.

[00:18:48] And it's just funny because I tried to look at screenshots for this game just to throw it in here. And it's, there's just so much of just people drawing on the notepad and then screenshot just among us looking very sus, just stupid stuff like that. I was wondering what the fuck I was looking at. Yeah. You can draw so you can take notes because it's a adventure. It's also an adventure game point and click inside a visual novel.

[00:19:15] Mostly actually it's pretty evenly spread between a visual novel and point and click adventure. I think, uh, games good so far, uh, devil want to finish out and see who is zero. And if it's just one of our friends that we had all along the way or something like that, you know, the classic, uh, saw style, we're all trapped in one room with an unknown person in a gas mask speaking to us. I wonder who he is.

[00:19:41] As I, we all look at the dead body chain to the radiator in the corner of this bathroom. They're going to give you the saw treatment. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like saw though. The third game is pretty good too. So the third one's called like, what's like zero escape or something? Zero time dilemma. Zero time dilemma. Was that also a DS game or did it just get released later on? So it's, it wasn't. So nine, nine, nine was on the DS virtues.

[00:20:09] Last reward and a zero time dilemma were on three DS Vita, everything basically. And then Nornary games was how nine, nine, nine got onto the other consoles as well. But it's good. Uh, Bill, I don't know if you noticed, but Phillip is, uh, Phillip's upload speed, not terrific. So he's a little delayed. I think it's like, what is going on? I saw the, I just wasn't, I wasn't, I just wasn't going to comment. I was going to be like, all right, that's fine. Dude. Yeah. The listeners protected from it.

[00:20:38] Cause we edit around it. I was really hoping everything's going to work outside because we lost power a couple of times today because there's just a bad high wind storm going on outside. I tried to walk my dog in it too, because of course, you know, dogs got to poop. And so I'm out there trying to walk the dog. And at one point I'm like, we can't go right because that's where the wind is coming from. And I can not walk into this wind, by the way, it's just a river of ice everywhere on the sidewalk. And you did, it's just, everything's ice.

[00:21:05] It turns out I live in like that super Mario level or whatever. It's ice everywhere. Cool. Cool. Mountain. And so I'm walking along and the penguins. Yeah. So you got to walk like a penguin too. So you don't fall over a huge wind gust comes over and it's just like hitting me from behind. I'm like, Oh no, I need to just stop moving. So I stopped, but then it is sliding me across the ice. Like I'm just sliding. I'm like, not just coasting along. And then finally it gets to you like rough terrain and I beef it onto my butt.

[00:21:35] I just fall flat on my ass. The wind is still pushing me. I look at my dog. My dog is doing like the widespread dog thing. Also sliding. We were getting blown down the street and it blew me down the street off the sidewalk halfway across the street. You know, luckily there are no cars to splatter me or anything, but, uh, I got back up and it only happened two more times in the next 10 minutes as I was walking my dog. Yeah. I was expecting something like that.

[00:22:03] Cause I was thinking you're going to be like, the dog was going to squat over to take a shit. And then the gust like made the dog tumble around and the shit blew everywhere. She was getting blown around too. Like, like a kite, like just holding onto the leash. It was so windy today. It snowed a ton over here in Oklahoma as well. Uh, for like two days, it's still snow on the ground right now, but I think it'll be melted by tomorrow night. Uh, but that was the first time Luna ever saw snow and she was doing this thing

[00:22:31] where I, so she like, she, you know, when dogs are about to take a shit, they kind of like curl a little bit. She did that for a second and then started spinning around doing donuts. She looked like, you know, when you hit a banana peel and Mario cart, she, that was what she was doing in the snow. Just flinging it all over the place. Like a fucking tornado. Luna is insane. Yeah. Uh, and so we were walking around. Molly kind of does a hop like through the snow and Luna is just walking normally. And eventually Molly Molly's like, I'm fucking done.

[00:23:00] I'm tiny. My little legs they're giving out. And, uh, so we were going back, but Luna was just trying to continue to piss and shit. I don't know. Like you do. Yeah. Yeah. So that was today. And I was worried that we were going to last power back there. I have a, my star link is mounted to like my fence post. And so like when the high wind blows, that thing is out there just flipping and flopping in the way. Dude, no wonder that shit doesn't fucking work, man.

[00:23:30] It's good. But it's somewhere else. It's good as there's nowhere else to put it because it has to have direct eye line clearance to the stars. And so you can't put it under the house because then the house is taking out half of the, you know, the viewing range. And I know what you might say, just put it on the roof. Well, for one, I don't know my house and I'm not authorized to drill holes in my roof. And I do not have a ladder high enough to get onto my house. So can't do that. Slap it onto your, glue it onto your chimney.

[00:24:01] I don't have a chimney. You don't have a chimney in Alaska. No. I mean, we just have, there's like an exhaust for the laundry. Is that not normal for cold environments to have chimneys? No, it's normal to just have central heating. Because it's like, you know, a lot of cabins have chimneys. They do. Whatever. Because they don't have central heating. Dude. Have you guys seen the, the yellow triangle apartments in Japan? Yes. No. I just watched a video about that. Did you see it? Dude, you got to Google this shit because literally it is as wide as a human.

[00:24:29] That is like where the end is. It is such a weird apartment. There was this YouTube video that I saw recently. I'm back on a YouTube binge, by the way, listener, long time listeners. They understand every like other month I go through a YouTube binge. These things are so ridiculous. So you just lay in it? Like that's all it is? No, it's like a, there's like a building. How do I find my, why does YouTube look different on, on browser whenever it's not in full screen? There it is.

[00:24:59] The skinniest freestanding building. Yeah. I think that might be the same video that I watched. No, I watched. Okay. So the guy's name is Tokyo Lens. Yeah. Oh, this is a 10 million view. Yeah. So you're definitely looking inside Japan's worst tiny apartment. This shit. I'm going to be honest. It doesn't look that bad. I've got way too much shit. The problem is that I'm tall. You know what I mean? So it's like, I wouldn't, that would be the most agonizing part, but like I could live

[00:25:29] in a small space like that. Honestly, I just need enough room for a TV and a computer monitor and a little mattress. And then, you know, that's it. That's all I need. I couldn't fit my video game collection in there. So it's already a no for me. Yeah. See, my video game collection is digital. I already, I've moved so many times that I'm just like, I don't know. Like every time, like every time I see my games, I only think about how it's going to suck to move them. I've done it twice. The toilet is in the staircase. It's a journey. Yes, dude. It's insane. I don't like that.

[00:25:58] That doesn't sound right to me. Do you see the tiny, like, like, oh man. Japan in general is weird, but I really want to visit because I want to see this shit in person. I want to, I want to, I want to shit in that toilet. We're going to have Japanese corner. I do want to shit in that toilet. It's just unlocked. You just go in there and shit in there if you wanted to. If you knew, which I know now. So yeah, if you see this giant yellow triangle apartment building, you're going to be like, oh, not me.

[00:26:26] You know, Japan's like great because you'll walk into like the bathroom like the first time over and you'll just see the toilets just on the floor and you'll just be like, what do I do? How does it work? Here we go. Yeah. All right. Well, that goes. This. That's stupid. Smooth. May, what did you buy? What did I buy? I bought this game called The Last Oroku.

[00:26:56] Which is about, it looks about as good as it sounds. But okay, look, it's a split screen like action RPG. Yeah. Well, like look, it's split screen. That's not like two screenshots. So you see the dude jumping. He's on the left of the left side. So it's a third person action RPG and apparently pretty dope. Like not fun. It's like goofy and like double A. Really hardcore 360 double A. Which God knows.

[00:27:23] That is my fucking, you know, Bill's super hardcore into retro. Phillip likes Japanese shit and cleaning simulators. I like double A 360 ass video games. I really like this shit. So I bought this game for a dollar fifty on sale. So I'm really excited. Oh my God. I just got this fucking picture. I posted it in the, I don't know if I posted it in the Goop Troop, but I posted it into the SuperPod. The schizo posting. It's that meat.

[00:27:53] Hold on. I'll do it. Look. Let me copy the image. It's going to go right under the last order queue. This. Phillip, what does that say? My body is a machine that turns special promotion 75% off into zero minutes played. Okay. Last played never. I was looking into it. I'm like, man, you know, I got a little bit of leftover money from Christmas gifts or whatever. Maybe I should go in for the humble membership, the humble bundle membership thing.

[00:28:23] And it just gives you like a bundle each month. Yeah. And you can choose to like pause at any point to where if a bundle comes out and you're like, Hey, I don't actually want these games. You can just be like, don't give me these games. And it'll be like, fine. We got you next month at bro. And it's like a different bundle that you can normally buy type deal. It's only for their members and you just get it type stuff. And I was looking into it and there's so many people that are talking about having like 2000 games on their steam library.

[00:28:53] And from just like getting sales and bundles and stuff like that. And because I was like, is it worth to get this? And people were like, it depends if you don't own any games. Yes. If you already own games. No. And then like the community evolves. And so there's a whole humble bundle subreddit dedicated to trading keys because someone would be like, Hey man, I already got four copies of blasphemous. Does anyone want to trade for something? And somebody would be like, Oh man, I got overcooked to base game.

[00:29:21] You know, if you want to trade me two copies of blasphemous. And it's just a list of people like being like, what keys do you want to trade for what? Because even though they got these keys for $1.50 or something like that, they are still trying to get like their money value of it, of trading for something else. And it just seems insane. It's like the stickers in steam or whatever, where people are like trading those to like get steam points or whatever that stupid thing is.

[00:29:49] It's like, imagine like, Oh, I'm really in the market of trading steam keys. And it's not even that I'm making money. I'm just trying to trade up to a better game or something like that. It's like, what if I bought a copy of cyberpunk and just went out there and be like, Hey, I got cyberpunk who wants to trade me. I don't know. 40 of your random. Orcs must die three. Yeah. Yeah. Give me a copy of orcs must die three. Like imagine you can get probably so many games.

[00:30:18] If you just bought whatever the newest game that just came out was be like, Oh, I just bought Warhammer space Marine two or three or whatever, whatever the new one was. And just go into that subreddit and be like, give me your best offer. You know? And someone be like, man, I have so many keys that I need to get rid of. And someone would probably just throw like their whole steam wallet at you. Or again, they also probably would not play. While Philip was telling that story, I went to my games on steam.

[00:30:46] I have 717 and I counted because I knew I knew I could count like within a reasonable amount of time, how many I'd actually played for more than like an hour. And it was 63 of 717. About like 11 of which are porn games. There's plenty of those on steam. Yeah. This was back in the day when you had to fucking R rated patch them. So like now, now they just have them. They just exist.

[00:31:14] And now you just turn off the safe filter and it's like, Oh my, I hate steam sales so much. Cause it's like, I buy so much fucking shit that I'm never going to play. And like, this is how I end up like drunk at like 3am and I buy every humongous game. Cause it was on sale for fucking like 75% off. Yeah. It's terrible. We literally have, we're in the middle of the, what did they buy section? So we are, you are amongst your own people here, Bill. Well, that's why I have every putt putt, every Freddie fish, the fucking explore the airport cause fuck it.

[00:31:44] Why not? Um, big thinkers. You gotta preemptively go in there and ignore that. You gotta ignore it. So every game you see, so you don't buy it. So you don't even see it go on sale. And then I, then I bought that and went on a Freddie fish bitch. It was great. Freddie fish is peak fiction. To be honest, man, you got to give them that sea urchin, put it in the bucket. That's the only part I remember. First name of his little buddy's name. Luther. Flounder. Luther. Luther. Even better. Yeah.

[00:32:14] Luther is a sick name. For a little green fish. Uh, the other game I got is a Synergia, which is a visual novel. Uh, and it looks cool. It's a stylized visual novel. Probably it's cyberpunk. So that makes the percentage of that chance go up. Uh, but, uh, yeah, so it is a cyberpunk, uh, visual novel thing. And again, it was like two bucks or three bucks or something like that.

[00:32:41] And I also got ghost runner two, which it was like $50 for the main game and $23 for the game and like the four DLCs. So I was just like, Oh God, it's happening. Like I can't stop myself. No. I was like watching my finger press the button. I was like, no, I'm never going to play this game. I have the first one. I bought the first short and I've never played that one either. And so I did that. I have ghost runner two now, which those games look like my kind of games. And over, instead of playing lesbian visual novels.

[00:33:11] So, uh, that's great. Those are the games I bought. Bill, have you bought anything interesting lately? Um, I finally bought Sonic X Shadow, uh, Generations. I've been meaning to play that for a bit. Uh, still haven't played it because who has time to play video games anymore? Damn straight. Uh, I also, I also found, I went to, I went retro shopping. So I found a copy of a Brigadine for, uh, the PlayStation one. It's an Atlas RPG tactical thing.

[00:33:39] It was $120 and that was actually a good price. So Brigadine Brigandine or something. It's Oh, Brigandine. I see it. Yeah. It's an old, it looks like, yo, Philip, look at this fucking, it looks like a dinosaur. It looks like a PS one RPG. Um, yeah, I bought that. And then I'm going to put it in the thing here. I also got the, um, the Phoenix, right? Well, actually miles Edgeworth Ace Attorney investigations collection.

[00:34:09] So I can finally legally play investigations too. Oh, nice. Legally. Of course. Apparently we all play our games legally. Well, it was never released over here. I put it in the notes under ghost runner too. Uh, it looks like there were, they have this on steam or they have a, a port maybe, or a sequel. See, there is a sequel. So that might be the sequel. Okay. Yeah. It's the sequel then. Yeah. I mean, it looks pretty cool.

[00:34:39] It looks like, um, like fire emblem, like the old fire emblem. Yeah. It's a bit more unforgiving and janky, but, um, you know, for an outlet, cause that game was going for like 300 at one point and I saw it for one 20. I was like, okay, I have to grab this now. So dude, you know, the game serious when they start naming their, uh, their monsters with the letters and numbers at the end, we're like, Oh no, it's skeleton. Yeah.

[00:35:05] And skeleton C like, man, I'm going to be fighting a lot of skeletons. And this fucking Barney, the dinosaur favorite enemy Drago one, a yeah. Drago one, a and a wiver for E. So that means there were four other rivers and possibly, I don't know where the E come from or yeah. See, that's what I was going to say. It's like exponentially that many, you know what I mean? Where it's like, like four E and it's like 10. Yeah. Yeah. It's too many, too many wivers.

[00:35:35] I really fucking hate wivers, especially when they're like made accurately because like they don't have the fucking T-Rex arms. And I'm so used to dragons having like four, four legs. Wivers just look disgusting to me. Well, there's a dragon on that picture next to the wiver. Also is a wiver. Yeah, I know. But like, I think the wivers have like claws on their wings. Do you see if you look real close? Yeah. Which is weird.

[00:36:01] They put them like, I thought they were more like bat wings where it's like at the end of the wing. Right. No, they have a little hookies. I don't know. They have like the finger hooks. That's what they have in Lord of the Rings. They have fingers at the end of their wings. They just go like. Yeah. Yeah. That makes me want to put my fingers in my eyes. It's the only way that slowly stops the ache. Japanese talk, Phillip. What are we doing?

[00:36:30] I don't think there's really much update. Yeah. We're both actively studying Japanese now. Nate finally drank the Kool-Aid. Bill, are you Nihongo? Nihongo? Yes. Kong? Yeah, Nihongo. I would like to learn Japanese. I just literally don't have time to do anything. That's the important thing. Duolingo? Duolingo. I'm over here on the Duolingo party. Dude, I hate Duolingo. Anti-Duolingo gang over here.

[00:37:00] I was going to show you, because I'm on like the second unit, Phillip. And I was going to send you a video where it was teaching me kanji. It is now teaching me katakana and kanji. I couldn't progress until I did 25 lessons of katakana, which is like three hours of katakana. So I just did it all straight. Before you even do any more grammar lessons, it's like day one is learn hiragana and katakana. Those are the two things you do. That's day one. I don't know, but this is the thing.

[00:37:30] What I really like is that I'm actually, because they were teaching me words in katakana, and I was like American and, you know, ingerisu and shit. And I'm like, oh my god, I don't know what I'm looking at. And now that I've learned a little bit, I can spot some of them. Because I see the hiragana. Because you were like, oh, it's going to be easy. And I'm like, it's not going to be easy. It's like literally, I'm learning a completely new script of the same fucking sounds. That makes no sense. But now it really is that easy.

[00:37:57] Like, the hiragana is starting to get into my long-term memory. You know what I'm saying? And so it's getting to the point where it's like, put this sentence together. And I remember struggling to figure out which one was this and like, where's wa? Even, by the way, Philip, did you know the hiragana, when you put wa in the sentence, the hiragana you use is for ha and not wa? Oh, yes. That's basic. Come on, man. Let's day one. Yeah. I didn't know that. It confused me every time.

[00:38:26] So I was like, it didn't confuse me because when I was doing grammar, I was like, oh, that's wa. But when I was doing the letters, like, you know, just the hiragana, like, flashcards, basically, I would be like, oh. Like, I get it fucked. I would fuck it up sometimes. And I'd be like, what? And I didn't understand because if it explained it to me, I just forgot immediately. You know what I'm saying? All right. Dear listeners, he's referring specifically. Oh, are we going to go to actual Japanese lesson here or no? Yeah, keep talking. All right.

[00:38:52] So he's referring to the particles for wa, which is spelled ha in whenever you're using it as like a subject identifier in simple Japanese sentences. It's kind of related to ga, which also comes up, but it's different. I'm not exactly sure why it's different. But ga is ga. It is. All the other particles are correct. Every other one's correct. It's just wa is ha for no reason. And shoot me.

[00:39:22] That's why. But look at this. Well, yeah, but you learned. Baby's first guidebooks. I got a little. Learn here. Gone in 10 days. They're so adorable. Yeah. They are cute. Yeah, they're so cute. Well, it's not learn in 10 days. It's not 10 days. It's not learning 10 days. Oh, it does say 10 days. Yeah, 10 days. It literally says 10 days. But I got them because it's literally just practice for writing. I don't know if you saw. Oh, yeah, I did show you guys. But like I've been just literally practicing on paper. Like you can.

[00:39:52] They make you draw them on the on the apps. But I got the hiragana, katakana and some kanji as well. Like all three books. They were like $7 each from Amazon. So I was like, oh, fuck it. I'll I'll get that. And I'll just practice on them slowly. You know what I mean? Just how many is in the kanji book? Probably say on the cover. Yeah, it should say somewhere. It says 100 plus.

[00:40:21] It's for N5 specifically. So I think it's like pretty simple. Yeah, I think N5. Oh, yeah. Here's the one for hito. 200 or so. Legs. I don't remember. You're wondering about N levels. That's based on the was a JLPT. The Japanese language proficiency test. So like N1 is like you are a university student. Like you've been studying it.

[00:40:49] Like like, you know, you know for sure. But I don't know. That was Japanese talk. I got some books. I'm going to be writing in them. It'll be fun. I have an update. And it's about car trouble. So Navy, you will not believe this. But the week that I was not on the pod, I took my car in for an oil change at a deal. Not a dealership. A mechanic shop. Can you believe it? Why? If we're an oil change. That's what all started all this. Yeah.

[00:41:18] I take it in for an oil change. Incredible. They I go in at four o'clock. You know, I go into two o'clock. My appointment time that I got with them and they say, hey, we're too busy. Can you come back at four? And I'm like, yeah, that's fine. I come back at four. They're like, all right, we'll see when we get you in real quick. You know, we'll knock it out. I'm there for two hours waiting for them to do the oil change. It's at six. They close at six. Real quick. Yeah, real quick. Watched a lot of anime that time, you know, practicing from me to you. Very good.

[00:41:48] Romantic. Anyways. They come back and they're like, all right, it's all good to go. You know, I dropped the money on it. I go out and start the car in the whole dashboard just lights up like a loyal pressure warning. Shit's fucked. And I'm like, oh, no. So I go back in. I'm like, hey, guys, the car is very upset with me. And it wasn't like that before. And they're like, oh, you know, let's take a look. They come out. They look and they're like, yeah, that's not good. Let's bring it back in. They bring it back in and they work on it for like another like half hour. They're running it.

[00:42:18] They bring it back out. And they're like, so we couldn't find anything wrong with it. It has oil. It's not overheating. It seems to be working fine, but it's just popping all these warnings. We think it's a bad sensor. That's all we're getting from it. And I'm like, OK. And they're like, look, you should be good to go. We were supposed to close, you know, half an hour ago. We're still here. If it's if you got any problems, just bring it right back. And like, cool.

[00:42:44] I drive home and it dies in the driveway before I even get it in my garage. And I'm like, oh, no, that's not good. And so push it into the garage. We I'm like, I'll take it back the next day. They're closed on Sunday. And I'm like, oh, that's fine. Monday comes around. I roll it. I try to drive it back up there because it starts back up. I'm like, cool. I'll try to get it there. I make it like a block and it dies. And I'm like, yeah, figures. So then I call them up and I'm like, hey, guys, shit's fucked. And I think it's your fault.

[00:43:13] And they're like, oh, you know, we'll come check it out. One guy comes out and he's like, I think it's a bad battery. I'm going to go back to the shop. He goes back. He brings back a battery. The changes of the battery still will not start. He's like, uh, I don't know. Maybe if the starter's bad, we don't have a way to tow it, though. So you need to find your own way to get it to the mechanic shop. I'm like, well, OK. So then, you know, I do that. I get it towed there. Tim, my tow truck driver, great guy. Anyways, they get it there. They look at him.

[00:43:43] They're like, oh, man, your starter's bad. You know, you need a whole new starter. You're about to drop like 2K on this whole biz altogether. And I'm like, oh, great. They're like, don't we're going to do a full inspection. Figure out what's going on with it. I'm like, great. My life's over. I start moving money around, trying to pay for this thing or whatever. The next morning, because we only like I didn't tell him to start till I had the money ready. The next morning I tell him to get started and they call me back and say, hey, it turns out when they did the oil change, they just completely smashed the filter somehow.

[00:44:13] And so your engine was like starved of oil and just completely burned itself out. And it's full of metal shards and it's totaled. And I was like, what? Yeah. Yeah. Like, don't worry, we'll take care of it. So like multiple days go by and they still have not gotten an engine for it or anything. And I'm like, hey, guys, I'm kind of out of a car. We have one car. Can you guys give me a loaner vehicle or something? You know, a rental or anything like that? And luckily they were like, no, get bent.

[00:44:43] We're not doing that. I was like, great. Did I say luckily? I meant unluckily. Unluckily. Yeah. They're like, yeah, we're not going to do that. And so then I go and I like get my own rental for the next like two weeks just to survive. And because, you know, you can't walk anywhere because it's Alaska. I still need to go to work and buy food for my kids and all that other stuff. So this guy finally then does get back to me after I like escalated talking to each person.

[00:45:12] Like I made it through like the manager. Then I made it to the owner or whatever. And then I'm with the president of the Alaska branch for this mechanic shop. And finally he's like, oh, yeah, we will not be able to reimburse you for your rental, but we will provide a rental to you. So I've not done it. That was like five days ago. But they said they're going to be giving me a rental. But so I'm just out of it. But I'm about to have two cars for a minute. Living that big life.

[00:45:37] I've had starters die on me multiple times than be stranded in the same Dunkin Donuts both times. That was fun. Both times. Yeah. Yeah. To the point where the people, you know, the best part to the same tow truck driver. And he's like, hey, I'm just like, I'm like, just, just kill me. I'm like, I'm like, oh, no. It was a run of bad starters. Like the mechanic, like he, he, he didn't charge me for any of them because he was like, I don't know. He just didn't know. But yeah, that's weird.

[00:46:07] That was probably the worst I've ever had. It's funny. You said you were watching from me to you. Oh yeah. I'm watching from me to you. Yeah. That's my fucking thing. What's hilarious is you said from me to you. And my, my brain went, that sounds familiar. Why do I know that? And then it hit me. I'm like, oh, it's Kimi no Todoke. That's why. Yeah. That's it. The, uh, yeah. I just, those Japanese words. Cause I read the manga and the manga is just Kimi no Todoke. Dude.

[00:46:34] There's like a little tiny subtitle on the front that says from me to you. I just finished season two. So I'm about to start season three and all the episodes are over an hour long. Like for some reason. Yeah. Like they just, for the final season, I don't know, just wrap it up or whatever. Instead of doing another 24 episodes at 22 minutes, they just, they have these chonky boys. It doesn't wrap it up. Nope. It's not even like, we're not even close. What more could happen?

[00:47:03] There's 30 volumes and it's a lot. But I was surprised. I will say though, season three is. Season three is adorable. Like season three is very adorable. I guess. I will say though, that show. Oh, sorry. We keep doing this delay thing. I will say that show, like I waited 10 years to watch because it took 10 fucking years to get a dub. The show came out 2014. The dub didn't come out till like last year.

[00:47:33] You just got to watch it in raw Japanese. That's what you got to do. I can't. Raw dogging it. Well, that's why I started reading the manga. Because if I was going to be reading half the time, I might as well read the manga. Yeah. Then you can close your eyes and animate it yourself. Oh yeah. There's pictures, Nate. There's pictures. Oh yeah. But you got to animate. So just stare at the still frames and shake them a little. Yeah. Season three though. That was my anime of the year this year.

[00:48:02] I loved it. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. Speaking about anime. It's just going to be hard to find time with it. Yes, Nate. Go ahead. It's funny that Bill's here because you, I was going, whenever I was linking your, in our notes we have, we link whatever link we can to like get everyone's shows together whenever we have guests. And whenever I looked at yours, you had that M-A-L on there. And I'm like, what is that? And so I clicked on that and I was like, oh, my anime list. I know what this is.

[00:48:30] And then I was like, I might as well make a, an account on here. And then I sent you a friend request bill and you didn't accept it. So I feel really bad because I don't use Mal anymore. I use my Annie list now, which is a different platform. That's better. Oh my God. That's my other link on there. The other one. I'm more of a TV time fan. I'm looking at it now. What is TV time? It's the same thing, except it has not anime on it along with the anime for tracking shows.

[00:48:59] Yeah. So I use it in case you can see, it's the, um, the little one that's like an eye down there. And it's just, it's the same exact thing, but it's got a better layout. Oh, okay. This, this, my anime list is very old school. Cool. My anime list also like, I don't like the forms and I don't like the, um, I don't like the way like the friend system works and stuff. It's not nearly as easy to navigate. Like my Annie list is just more convenient to me.

[00:49:30] Anyway, that was my anime list talk. Yeah, dude. It's weird because it's like, I wish I had a service that would actually recommend shows to me based on what I've watched previously and like how I've rated it, but there's just no service like that from what I can tell. That's even remotely good because even like on Netflix, I'll be like, Hey, your next watch full metal alchemist brotherhood. And I'm like, okay, thanks.

[00:49:59] You know, like, I don't need to watch that again. I've already watched it. I mean, yeah. I mean, if you really like Kimi Nittudoki, like I, I'd recommend like maybe, um, fruit baskets is a classic. Um, it doesn't have subtitles. Komi can't communicate. That one's on the list though. I mean, it doesn't have Japanese subtitles is what I'm suggesting. No, Japanese subtitles. Oh, okay. I'm waiting on the subs to come out. Komi can't communicate is good.

[00:50:25] I'm probably going to start either Komi or, um, was it your lie in April? That one might. I've never seen that one. I'm not sure. I think it's about like a, my happy marriage. So I've started that one, but I haven't finished it. I got to the part where he started shooting like fireballs out of his hands. And I'm like, this is a bit much. It gets good. It's very, it's interesting where it goes. All right. But it's time to, uh, thank our patrons.

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[00:51:25] And Nave, it's time for us to take a break because we're going to come back and try to help some assholes on the internet. So the music plays. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. All right. And we're back. All right. So this is us going online to help some assholes in need. We got one. And now we're currently hunting down to see if we actually saved it because I don't see where the mod is. It might not be in here. We might've lost one. Damn.

[00:51:55] Is there serious? I'm just going to scroll and see. Yeah. Cause you type in search auto mod. It's not what is this judgment bot? Oh, yeah. The OP adding another explanation. Dang. I think we lost this one. Well, that's unfortunate. There's 300. Oh, I found it. I found it. Where is it? The reason why is there's so many comments that the comments further down weren't loaded whenever you control more comments. All right.

[00:52:25] I'm linking it right now. It is very short. You picked an insanely short one. Okay. Good. You'll save time. Yeah. I guess. Hold on. I'll put it in the notes. I'll put it in the notes here. We're in the break. In the break? Yeah. Right above the aid. Am I the asshole in the notes? Have we done this one before? I don't know. It wasn't shaded. I'm not seeing it.

[00:52:55] All right. It's fine. We got to do it again. We did one very similar to this. I think we just did one. It's weird that it happens more than once. Yeah. Like it's a recurring problem in this genre. You know what? I'm going to go get the other mod. I can just pick a different one if that's easier. No. I mean, I got it right here. No, that's fine. Let me. Here's the. Here's the update. Update.

[00:53:25] Oh, and I didn't. Oh, I got you. I got it. All right. Do you want to read it or do you want to answer it? I can read it. Gotcha. Go for it. Okay. So this one is. One second. I lost the title. Am I the asshole for telling my wife she's mocking me for liking anime? I think that's what it's called. Close enough. Something like that.

[00:53:54] So I. So I enjoy fantasy settings in anime. Whenever I'm watching a show or a clip of a show online, I can always hear my wife in the background making a name, making a nasally voice and imitating the characters. I brought this up to her attention and told her that it feels like she's mocking me. In response, she started yelling that it was just jokes and I need to be less sensitive. This morning it happened again. So I ignored it.

[00:54:22] And now she's mad at me for having hurt, for having hurt feelings. Am I the asshole? Update. I sat, I sat her down and tried to tell her how I felt about the situation. Afterwards, I just ignored that it happened and tried to resume my normal day activities. Wow. I think, I think OP is a little sensitive and needs to get over it. Yeah. He needs to line up. I don't know. It could get annoying. You know what I mean? It depends on how aggressive the wife is.

[00:54:52] Is what I'm saying. What's funny is like me and Alex will be like, we both are big anime fans and like, I'll be like hanging out at her place and she'll be watching a show and I will do this to her in the background. And she'll be like, will you stop? Yeah. So I'm pretty sure this is just, I think he needs to calm down a bit. I think it, what the intent is important, right? So if the person, if the wife is like, she doesn't mind anime or she even likes it and she's just kind of irritating him to irritate him.

[00:55:22] I think that he does need to lighten up. But if she doesn't like anime and she's like, actually like going out of her way to insult him for what he likes, then that like, cause it's the malicious intent. You know what I mean? It's the same action, but the intent is slightly different. You know what I mean? It's like when Bill, if I make fun of you for Inuyasha and you know, I like Inuyasha, it's like calling a nerd, a dumb fucking nerd, but they know you're a nerd. So it's not a big deal.

[00:55:49] But if you're a jock and you beat up nerds on the reg and then you call him a dumb fucking nerd, there is now a different intent. You make fun of me for Inuyasha? I didn't even notice. No, I said if I did. Oh, I was going to say, I'm like, when did this happen? So if I did that and then, but you know, I like Inuyasha too. You know what I mean? So it wouldn't mean anything to you. I was really confused for a minute. I was like, wait a minute. When did this happen? I'm sorry. In the middle of that explanation, I jumped ship onto another example.

[00:56:18] So I do that sometimes when my brain is racing, but yeah, I don't think this is a big deal. This is a big nothing burger, but I love the responses though on Reddit because this clearly is full of anime fans and they're all like, she's a bitch. Get rid of her. Oh, look this one right here. 371 upvotes. These are not jokes. A joke is where she says something and you laugh and feel good. These are abusive, rude digs designed to make you feel sad and dumb and unhappy.

[00:56:48] She is not a nice person. Tell her it's hurtful and tell her to cut it out. Why is he talking like a child talking to another child? Because this is clearly a person who doesn't have a wife and has never talked to a woman in his life. I'm sorry. If it's a female and never talked to... I'm not even going to... We have no idea. It's just deleted. But you know what I mean. It's a deleted person. It's interesting. Yeah. When I talk to Casey, I mean, I am a big fan of harassing people. I don't know why. I just think it's funny. But I do it in like a...

[00:57:18] You know the show Jackass? That's how they never really make the joke about the bystanders. They always make the joke about themselves. You know? Like, I like to make the jokes about me and just be a jackass in that kind of way. I think that it's very fun. But some people see any type of aggression as like an escalation to violence. You know what I mean? And those people definitely just need to chill way out.

[00:57:44] Well, like even if she's being malicious here, it is not that huge of a deal. But if you feel like she's trying desperately to hurt your feelings, you need to talk to her about it. Because if that's your wife, then you got to live with this person. So you got to ask yourself, are you okay living every day for the rest of your life? Getting the nasally voice every time anime comes on. You're trying to watch Zatch Bell. It's just really funny.

[00:58:14] It's just really funny. Like, you're going through all these responses. And like, these people are really upset with the wife. And I'm like, guys, it's not that serious. They're trying to burn her down. Oh, yeah. Like, this one person's like, your wife is a bore. It's like, that's nice. Like, okay. Oh, and here's the classic Reddit. She also sounds like she stops. Make fun of all her friends' voices and her family's voices. Leave no stone unturned.

[00:58:42] Make fun of her daughter's voice. I don't care that it's your daughter, too. I like how there's one where it's like, you go far down. It's like, it sounds like she's racist. It's like, excuse me? Like, what? And then the response is just question marks. Oh, he's responding. I just realized. Is he? He's responding. I just, so, I assume. But this one says, how many times has it happened and how often?

[00:59:11] And a deleted account says, it's been going on for months. I just talked about it yesterday. So there he is responding. And since he's deleted his account, because it was probably a burner, you know, I don't know. It doesn't matter. What were you saying? No, I mean, that's it. We can probably let this one go. It's just silly. Yeah. This one's just like, this is such a nothing burger. All right, Nave, do you have one that you want to call out? Yeah, this is dumb. Yeah, number. Oh, man. I had it. Number 11?

[00:59:41] I went to Bill's. No, I'm flipping around. I'm looking for it. This one, 28. 28, okay. I got to make up. I got to make up for all the time we just saved on that one. Oh, boy. Oh, God. It's so long. All right. This is from Nave. Give me your Japanese pronunciation of that one. All right, good job. Oh, Tsukuyomu. He's 28 working at Walmart.

[01:00:15] Oh, wait. You're looking at his thing? Oh, okay. Gotcha. No, he's working at Target. No, he's calling on someone else. He's working at Walmart. Yeah. Yeah. The thread is I'm working at Walmart. I hate myself and I'm a loser. Let's find a path. I think it's for people that are lost in life. Oh. No, it's for people who have a hobby, passion, pursuit, or life goal, and they want to make

[01:00:44] a leading out of it, but they don't know how to get there. Oh, okay. That's better. Valiant. You know? Yeah, it's a lot less pathetic than it sounded just from the subreddit name. But he's also... What race do you think he plays in... Okay, never mind. The child race. Let's talk about this and then I might bring this up if I forget. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to get into it. Am I the asshole for not playing a game with my GF?

[01:01:13] For context, my 28 girlfriend, 26, has been begging me to play Fortnite with her. I may have played a few rounds a few times to make her happy, but I told her I don't really care about Fortnite. It's a fun game. Sure. It had its fun game modes. Interesting sentence. And I enjoyed it when I was younger, but now I don't really care for it. This is seven months ago. He's like almost our age. I don't know. Has Fortnite been out that long?

[01:01:42] It's been out for like 40 years, yeah. Man. Oh. Yeah, that doesn't feel good. All right. So today, she asks if I would play with her and I tell her the same thing I usually tell her and say I'm not really that into it. This leads her to getting mad and in a hissy fit saying that because I've played with my friends, I told her I played prop hunt with one of my really, oh, there's a long parenthesis. I told her I played prop hunt with one of my very good friends literally twice.

[01:02:09] And if one time he hits me up, I'm usually like, nah, because again, I don't like Fortnite, LOL, period. Uh, okay. Her, you play, oh, her. You play with them and it makes me feel like you think I'm not interesting or fun to play with. I told her the quotation mark. Oh God, this guy is like a fucking moron. I told her I play with them probably the same amount of times I played with you. So I don't understand how you're telling me otherwise.

[01:02:40] Another quotation. Why does he only have quotations to end the quote? I don't know. I've asked her other times about other co-op games to play together or other shooters that aren't cartoony or literally just anything that isn't Fortnite. Recently, I've gotten into Final Fantasy 14 and I love it. I like MMOs. I like RPGs. I don't mind some couch co-op games and a lot of the games I do play are single player.

[01:03:09] I'm willing to compromise on playing any other game that isn't Fortnite. But she loves this game. Parenthesis. She has ADHD, big ADHD, feelings, fear of rejection, trauma. What does that mean? That means she really likes this game. She has ADHD, big ADHD, feelings, fear of rejection, trauma. That is in the middle of the sentence.

[01:03:39] So the sentence continues. She takes me not wanting to play it with her as me not caring about her feelings or her interests. She has not ever made a compromise with me for a game that I found interesting or wanted to play. I played It Takes Two with her for a bit and it was fun. A game she also picked and again, I compromised. But that was about it.

[01:04:03] I'm really just tired of these arguments circulating around a kiddie game I outgrew and don't really have an interest for. I play big boy games like Final Fantasy XIV. He doesn't say that. No. I'm not knocking it. I'm not knocking it. I'm not saying it isn't a fun game in general. It's just for me personally. I don't want to play it. I don't want to buy skins.

[01:04:33] I don't want to play different game modes. Controller versus my old PC keyboard mouse is completely different. And I'm just not into it. She's taking it really personal. And I feel like we're a little too old for these little tantrums. Because anytime I've suggested a game I want to play and she doesn't want to, I don't get butthurt. I just go on about whatever I'm doing. But for her, it's the end of the world, princess.

[01:05:03] I don't want to spend time with her. I don't care about the things she finds interesting, etc. When it's not even that. It's just IDGAF about no Fortnite crying emoji. So please read it. Am I tweaking? But won't compromise for me. But won't compromise. What is this quote? But won't compromise for me. I feel like we're both in an adult relationship.

[01:05:30] And should be okay with your partner not having the same interests as you. And it shouldn't be taken as a personal attack. Because we're not like 12. Are you sure? And then there's a box there. Because whatever emoji he put, it's not supposed to be. That's the emoji. Oh. Hmm. I don't think this relationship is going to work. That's all I can say. She was a Fortnite girl. He was a Final Fantasy child.

[01:05:59] So it just didn't work out. I love his thing at the end. We are both in an adult relationship. Could have fooled me. It's not like we're 12. Are you sure? That's the thing, dude. Sometimes these Am I the Assholes don't have the ages on there. And we assume they're like 15 or 16. Right? I would have on this one assumed they were like in high school still. Like absolutely. Yeah. Not almost our age. Yeah. Makes me feel bad. He's outgrown.

[01:06:29] It takes two, Phillip. He's outgrown Fortnite. Yeah. No more Fortnite for him. See you, news. I love how he says cartoony kitty games, but then he talks about Final Fantasy 14, which... Not knocking it, but I mean, it's not that realistic. I mean... No, man. There's castles and shit, bro. It's like castles and swords and... There's giant birds. Yeah. Not cartoony. That's real.

[01:06:58] I saw a dude transform into a mech and then fucking fly off into the distance. So, it's totally real. I don't know. This guy seems like an idiot. Anyway, this guy... I was... Yeah, he seems like a petulant fucking baby man. Yeah. Yeah. And the sad part is, though, you can tell the demographic in the comments. Because most people are like, yeah, you're right. And I'm just like, no. Like, um... I don't know.

[01:07:26] This is the problem, is that he seems extremely insecure about the thing. He's like, he's playing games to be perceived, right? Because he's like, oh, I don't want to play the kiddie Fortnite game. I don't want people to see me playing the kiddie game. You know what I mean? It's like... The fact that you do play with your friends and not her directly gives you the fucking comparison of like, oh, it does seem like you don't want to play games with your partner. Like, that's just what it seems like. If you're going to play with your boys and not play with her.

[01:07:55] I mean, what other conclusion could you possibly come to? It kind of sounds like he's gaslighting her a little bit on this point. Yeah. You know what's really funny, too? This one is marked not the a-hole. But if you scroll down, there's only like 11 comments. Not counting the bots. Yeah. That's more like eight. Three of them are people saying not the asshole. And then the other ones are like people going like, can you give us more information, please? Like, or I don't really understand what you're trying to say here.

[01:08:22] Like, he's just fucking been like a goober. He does have a reply in here. Go on, Phillip. No, I mean, going back on his post history, he seems like someone that is, uh, seems to be having struggles. Just in general. He's fucking touched in the head? Yeah. So, I don't know if we can go too hard on this guy. I think he's just a-

[01:08:52] The best- Oh! He fucking likes his fucking- Okay, dude, the fucking post. The- One of his most recent post is, uh, his fucking character in Final Fantasy XIV. And it is the child race. He plays as the kids. He plays as the children in Final Fantasy XIV. Yeah. But he doesn't want to play the kiddie game! Ah! That's so insane!

[01:09:21] You know what's really funny, though? He posted- The Loll of Fall Master Race Reddit. Which is the- Yeah, the Loll of Fall. That's them. The Loll of Fall Master Race. Okay, so also, this is really funny. If you- If you look through his previous posts, he had posted the same post twice before. And it was removed right by the- The, um, the subreddits. Uh- The same subreddit, yeah. So, uh, I'm not sure- Yeah, that's what Philip said. Like, he definitely dodged the mods with this one.

[01:09:51] Yeah, so, uh, I think- This guy's probably an asshole. But we almost need more information. Yeah, this guy is a fucking goober. He's got pictures of himself all over his account. Yeah. Oh, you can go back five years and see when he- He was asking about moving in with your girlfriend and compromises. That's a great sign. Yeah, he was learning. Yeah, this dude is a fucking child. Yet again, we've got a-

[01:10:19] We've got an asshole that we disagree with the comments about. There's not that many comments, like Bill said, so. Yeah. I feel like we were getting more and more away from agreeing with the commenters. Are we getting old? I mean, what was the last one? Yeah, I think we're getting old. Well, you know what I've noticed? Like, when it's an actual real-life kind of situation, generally the people are more sane. But when it's, like, something like this, you get, like, the same people that would agree commenting.

[01:10:46] Because the people who don't agree usually look at this and just don't even bother. Because they're like, nah. Like, it's not worth the time. Oh, yeah. It's not worth the time. Wait, you're right. We were off on the last one, too. Because everyone was, like, angry about the girlfriend not liking anime. I forgot about that. Yeah, I think it is just wild. Like, it is a wild card what you're going to get with the Reddit comments, honestly. Like, it's so inconsistent with the quality. Well, it's like any time you have one where it's a guy complaining about children,

[01:11:15] like, because it's, like, Reddit and most Redditors hate children, like, they're all like, oh, no, I agree 100%. It's like, okay, sure. Or, no, usually it's when the children are complaining about their parents. It's like, oh, my gosh, that's abuse. Like, your parents can't treat you that way. Dude, I think it's so funny, though. It's, like, it's a 14-year-old. It's, like, my parents are doing this. And it's, like, just an innocuous parent thing. And just be like, they are psychologically manipulating you. Actually, this is called gas. Just teach them a bunch of shit.

[01:11:44] Just fucking ruin this kid. I'm going to ruin this child. Hardcore Redditors are another species sometimes, I swear. Yeah. Holy crap. This guy is stupid. Philip, do you want to do one? That was actually not that long. I don't know. Maybe I'll do a short one. Oh, no. That one's not short. Oh, quick. Got to find one that's not 20 hours long. Okay. Yeah, let's do number four.

[01:12:13] Okay. All right. We're all the way to the top. Yeah. This is from J Gangsta, who posts on AWEW Official. So he's a pro wrestling fan. This one's recent. Also removed twice from the subreddit. That's a good sign. So we got another Dodger here. Oh, he's posting in Am I the Asshole? Well, quite a bit. He is, but they keep getting removed and stuff.

[01:12:46] Take us on a journey, J Gangsta187. All right. I have a friend who has been struggling with a lot in his personal life, including depression, alcoholism. Did you read the title? His wife moving out. Oh, Am I the Asshole for buying a new laptop as a surprise for a friend? All right. Clean. Yes. His wife moved out of the country and hosts of other first world problems.

[01:13:09] We make a podcast together, but he is frequently has connectivity and recording problems, which led to him getting angry and complaining constantly about needing a new PC. Huh? Nave? Is this you? Phillip? No. Oh, no. Yeah, you're right. This is the other way around. Did we find Nave's burner? Oh, no. His internet's good. All right.

[01:13:37] His computer is a hand-me-down tower PC that has been deteriorating in recent years to the point that is no longer reliable. I suggested he use money from our Patreon to buy a new setup, but he never has. Recently, he made a Facebook post asking if anyone would be willing to, quote, contribute funds to buy a computer that won't crash on me, end quote. He frequently complains, but seldom takes action. He's just not a solution-oriented guy.

[01:14:08] Why am I taking this personally? All right. So today, while I was browsing Best Buy for a new dishwasher, I also looked at the laptop sales and found the same computer that I have at a good price. I have room in my Best Buy credit line for an interest-free purchase. So rather than ask him, I said, fuck it, and bought him a laptop. His birthday was two weeks ago. I can call it a late gift.

[01:14:36] When I told a mutual friend about this, he scolded me and said I probably just ended our friendship and that it was a terrible idea and that I was an idiot to do such a thing. A complete fool. A buffoon, even. I should note that presuming to buy something big like that will be taken the wrong way, etc. I'm not giving the full story here because friendships are complicated.

[01:14:59] But is it really so presumptuous and shitty to do something nice for a close friend in need? What? Okay, to sum it up. This guy bought a slightly expensive gift for a friend who is down on his luck that is super depressed, alcoholic, lost his wife, and has a lot of other first world problems, which I assume he lost his wife. He had alcoholism, probably money problems too.

[01:15:29] So this guy's hard struggling. And out of nowhere, his bud just buys him a laptop. Is that guy an asshole? Dude, I think that this mutual friend is on another planet. I kind of agree with the not enough info because I'm just confused. Like, what's the... Like, what? Yeah. At the end, the whole last paragraph is like, I am purposefully withholding information. Take what you will. Take that how you will. Okay.

[01:15:59] No, I mean, if we can just... We're just making presumptions here. Uh, he's feeling bad that he's like, hey, my friend is struggling and I'm about to, you know, throw a thousand dollar PC his way just because he won't do it himself. And I don't see him doing it in the future. I don't know. I... It's weird because I am on the recipient of...

[01:16:25] I am on the receiving end of, like, expensive gifts quite often, right? Not, like, super expensive, but, like, this microphone that I do the podcast with was a gift from Nikolai at night. I mean, the... The... The Chromebook I have. It's a cheap Chromebook, but I mean, like, it was from Nik as well and it was helping me do the podcast for a little while. And, I mean, I got a guitar amp and, like, the fucking drum cymbals. Like, a lot of this stuff is kind of expensive and it's like, those were gifts to me. You know what I mean? And it just depends on the personality type, right?

[01:16:55] So, maybe the mutual friend is the type of person who doesn't really receive gifts. Like, there's this thing called love languages and you're not trying to make love to your friends, obviously. But, like, that kind of pertains to this kind of personality type, right? There are some people that don't like to receive gifts. And they take that kind of thing personally. I don't think that that's how the friend here is. The one that is the OP's friend doing the podcast with him. Because if he's making posts on Facebook requesting money, like requesting donations, I think that

[01:17:24] he would take this in stride. Especially since you have the excuse of it being a late birthday gift. I think that that's a perfect smokescreen for this. You know what I mean? Because it's killing two birds with one stone. You're getting annoyed at him for being inconsistent with his quality because his PC's fucked up. And he wants to have a good computer. Like, you know what I mean? You guys can, like, mutually benefit from this.

[01:17:48] And you don't even have to tell him it's because you're frustrated with him not being on the podcast reliably. You know what I mean? Yeah. I see another smokescreen that's in the comments. I do want to bring us... What? I'll go for it. No, the other smokescreen they said is like, hey, if he gets weird about it, though, just say that you're lending it to him to do the podcast work. And then, you know... Oh, yeah. That's a good... That's sneaky.

[01:18:17] One great thing is that... Going back onto his Am I the Asshole account, we... Or not his Reddit account, but where he posts on Am I the Asshole. He posted 10 days ago twice, Am I the Asshole, I gave my best friend some tough love and it ended our friendship. Could it be this person? Oh, no. I guess we got to look now. I was really hoping this one... Oh, it got removed! By the mods! Twice. They both got removed.

[01:18:44] The second time it got removed, it says, do not repost this without contacting the mods for approval, including edited versions. Reposting this will get resulted in a ban. So he's being... He has been warned. But let me see this. Auto moderator... It exceeds the 3,000 character limit. That's why it was posted. That's why it was removed the first time. So let's see if... Because there's 102 comments on this other Am I the Asshole. So let's see if the bot caught it.

[01:19:12] We have a judgment bot where he is adding... So I think... Yeah, the judgment bot's catching it. Okay, dude. We want to follow up. Oh, it's so long! It's about him, too. Oh, we gotta follow up, dude. I think we gotta follow up. I'll read it really fast. Okay. I'll read it real fast. Okay. Oh, fuck. Hold on. I maximized the page and it fucking vanished. Where'd it go? Okay, there it is. My best friend has been struggling for years.

[01:19:41] He's clinically depressed. On medication and battling alcoholism. Two years ago... Okay, for context, the post we just read was five months ago. This is ten days ago. Okay, so... Two years ago, his wife moved abroad for school and it recently came to light that she doesn't plan to return. Meaning their marriage is ending. Wait, I thought she died. No, she moved overseas. No, it just said she left the company. Oh, why did I think she died? I'm insane. Okay, whatever. So she... So it became... She doesn't plan to return.

[01:20:11] Their marriage is ending. He also lost his beloved grandmother and aunt and his dad has survived a cancer scare. He was removed from an online community after accusations of inappropriate behavior, which shook him despite his disagreement with them. On top of all this, he's gained weight, lost hair, and has been feeling down about the state of the country. He's become more despondent than overtime, and his primary coping mechanism has been heavy drinking. Jesus Christ. This is... It gave me together in five years.

[01:20:39] Like, this is gonna be Philip posting about me. All right. We've been close friends for over 25 years, and he's always been very online. We've spent a lot of time together in various communities where he tends to vent but rarely seek solutions. Over the last few years, he's become prone to sending late-night messages to our group chats expressing love, and I always feel fear that they might be his last. He shows up to group calls slurring his speech and has even passed out in the middle of conversations.

[01:21:08] I've tried to support him, telling him I love him like a brother and would do anything to help. I've encouraged him to attend AA, seeing the success in my own family members, but he's been dismissive. The actual inciting incident for this post happened months ago when Hurricane Helene was approaching Florida. I was evacuating and, in a hotel room, checked my Discord notifications. In a section labeled Support Group, he had posted a Simpsons clip from the episode where Ned Flanders' house gets destroyed by a hurricane, and he asked if God is punishing him.

[01:21:34] My patience had been worn thin that day, and instead of letting it go, I sent a series of messages. I told him it was ironic to post that clip while my home could literally be in a hurricane's path. I expressed that it sucked he was going through so much, but that he needed to take responsibility for making changes that would improve his life. I said he could make changes, even though it would be hard and take time. And urged him to be grateful he was still alive and starting to make improvements. I ended up saying, I fucking, I ended it by saying, I fucking love you.

[01:22:03] He called me, furious, and said he never wanted to speak to me again and blamed my abrasive attitude. He aired grievances ranging from, you insulted me and my wife too, you insulted my music taste when we were 14, and accused me of making his situation about me invoking the hurricane. He said, I was mocking his pain during our phone conversation when I audibly scoffed, taken aback at what he was unfolding.

[01:22:29] I knew then, and more so in hindsight, that tough love was not the right approach. After years of seeing him suffer with no change, I wanted to help, but am I the asshole for pushing too hard and not sugarcoating my advice? Woo! Do you, okay, big question, big question. Do you think, if the friendship ends, that he's going to get to keep the laptop? I don't know. It's unclear where the laptop is standing at this moment. Yeah, if it ever happened in general.

[01:22:59] I like the comment right before where it says, you the asshole. You knew that tough love wasn't the right approach, yet you still went for it over a gif. Lovely. Yeah, it's weird that the gif was the triggering thing, because that means that this guy's been mad at this dude for a long, long time to get triggered by a Simpsons gif. Yeah, well, I mean, that's the thing, is that, like, it really isn't about that. It's just about, like, all of that baggage behind all of it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know.

[01:23:27] Is it insensitive to post a video about a gif about a hurricane in an area where your friend could see and he is in the middle of evacuating a hurricane? Yeah, it's a little on the nose. Like, imagine you post a gif about, like, someone, you know, pretending to shoot themselves because something happened, and then, like, your friend who just lost his, like, loved one recently from suicide by gunshot.

[01:23:53] Like, I'm trying to, like, where's the line there, honestly? You know what I mean? Because I can understand to a degree that it's like, oh, I might lose everything I own. Like, Phillip, if I posted a gif in the GoopTube about someone's car breaking down and being upset, would you be mad at me and break the podcast up? No. Because I know it's an open wound. Okay. No, dude, I'm so angry. But no. I know!

[01:24:24] Okay. I love how split the comments are. Like, it's like a mix between some people are on his side and some people aren't. I think that he's coddling, I think he's kind of coddling his friend. I kind of understand what it's like to have to, like, go through it with somebody who just won't fucking improve at all. Like, that's kind of like what my last relationship was like, where, like, nothing I said or did would encourage them to, no matter how nice I was, no matter how stern I was, no matter

[01:24:51] how serious I was, if I made ultimatums, or if I gave them, like, pats on the head and gifts if they did good. They just don't do the right thing. They just don't improve in any way. They just want to stagnate or, worse, go downhill. Like, there are people who thrive down there. And you just have, if you're on the upswing, if you're moving up, then you are just different people. And you're going to have to, like, find a new friend, unfortunately. And, you know, that's always a difficult thing, you know, letting go.

[01:25:22] Hmm. I think everybody sucks here. Anyway, didn't expect this one to get so serious. Yeah, I think this is just a train wreck of a relationship. All right, let's move on. I don't think the OP is that bad. But, yeah, to the break. Yeah, we've given this guy enough. Music plays. Boom, boom, boom, boom. All right, does anyone need a break?

[01:25:49] I love how the last asshole, it was like, everyone was like, info? Question mark? Info? And then that one was like, an expose on his fucking friend. The first fucking paragraph. I love how we picked that one. We picked that one because it was short. And then it's like, it's not short at all. Yeah, unfortunately, it unraveled. Dude, I really wish we knew what their podcast was. Oh, that would be so. Wait, wait, wait. What is their name? We might be able to fucking, I might be able to fucking figure it out. Hold on.

[01:26:18] All right, you got two minutes to do your Googling. Jay Gangster 187. All right, why? Oh, yeah, we're on the break. Let me just do some Googling. Yeah, we're on the break. I don't know. Do my own Googling, I guess. Dude, his account is really old, so we could probably find something. Yeah, there's got to be something that identifies him. You know what I mean? Okay, I just typed in Jay Gangster 187 podcast and it's not really. I see a very good music podcast. Yep, I found it. Video Game Music Jeopardy in podcast form. Yeah. His podcast might be called.

[01:26:48] Oh, I know. No, I may have found it. Wait, what? I found a podcast called Very Good Music, a VGM podcast. That is just from Googling his name in podcast. Was that what you said? No, yeah. He definitely does a music podcast. He keeps posting in game music every time he puts out a new episode. He has a Jeopardy game. It must be this. We found him. Should we listen to his show? We found him. Yeah. Game. This is crazy. We actually found him. Yo, he has multiple shows.

[01:27:18] Oh, there are like 268 episodes. Oh. Oh, hold on. Not now, Siri. Three guys making a fun podcast about video game music. Why did this one come up whenever? That's so bizarre because when I typed in Jay Gangster podcast, a video of very good. Oh, I found his ex. What? Let me see, dude. Fucking show me. Show me. Give me the tea. I mean, it's literally his thing. Yeah, he's the host of Game That Tune. But he hasn't posted in like a long time on X.

[01:27:48] Dude, I've got to get a hold of this guy. He doesn't post on X from the looks of it. Yeah. Game That Tune. Game That Tune. They almost have as much followers as us over there. Oh, good for them. This is wild. This is wild that we found them. I mean, isn't that wild? He uses the same. He was posting on Main. Yeah, he was posting on Main. Oh, there's this link tree. Yeah. They got a Twitch. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Their last episode was actually January 7th. Do they have more patrons than us? Do they have more patrons?

[01:28:18] Fine. Give me a second. Where is their patrons? Yeah. Dude, they are smashing us in patrons. Oh, they're beating us to death right now. Holy shit. We got to hook up with these guys, man. Dude, no shit. I'm going to fucking reach out to these guys. I'm going to reach out to these guys. I supported you, brother. I supported you. All right. Remember that. Phillip's the one. No, everyone sucks. Phillip and Bill. Come over. Double down. Come over here to Super Pod Saga. No. I'm more just confused.

[01:28:46] I have no idea what's going on with that whole mess. Oh, well, we really tracked down the OP. There he is on Patreon too. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We found him. I'm going to put this in a folder in my favorites so that I can remember to do this later. All right. That was amazing. I'm so fucking glad that we went down that rabbit hole. Holy shit. All right. And we're back.

[01:29:11] Brighter Shores is an all new adventure from award winning MMO RPG designer Andrew Gower. It is an enchanting point and click style RPG with hundreds of hours of gameplay set in a land of magic and mysteries with a huge number of professions to try and something new to find around every corner. Recent reviews mixed, but all reviews mostly positive. All right.

[01:29:40] So this is the this is from Andrew Gower, who is one of the brothers, I think, that set up RuneScape. So originally was right. He was the main guy, like because he created the original MUD file, devious MUD. He created like all the early like basically he was the he was the originator and then his brothers came in and they kind of created what became original RuneScape, which eventually became RuneScape 2, which is now known as old school RuneScape.

[01:30:10] And then it's evolved since into the mess it is nowadays. But oh, my God. Sorry, guys. But game that tune has a discord and I just joined it. Excellent. You guys keep talking. I am. I am so I'm so into this. I'm looking. I'm sleuthin. All right. Good job, Detective Pikachu. All right. So this is what some are referring to as RuneScape 4, I guess, or something like something along those lines.

[01:30:37] Whereas like like you said, there was old RuneScape, old school RuneScape, RuneScape 3, which is just RuneScape now, I think. Right. So RuneScape has a lot. It's RuneScape, but. Yeah. Yeah. There's two active ones. This is disconnected from Jagex, which is the developer and producer of RuneScape. This is.

[01:31:03] Developed by Finn Research Ltd, which I don't know if they make anything else. I didn't look that up. But this is designed by Andrew Gower. And he's been really active out there. Like the game is in early access currently, early release. I'm not sure how they have it stanced. But he's been really active doing like not really AMAs, but responses to the community. They are actively updating things like every single week. So odds are we will be dated by the time this episode comes out. Oh, Philip, yes.

[01:31:31] Because I think since you started playing it, there was like two updates. What's up? I did post a like on January 9th, they had news for updates, but we'll get to it when we get further down. Yeah. Because it is going to immediately contradict things that I wrote out in the notes. So. So just quick history preconceptions of this game. I saw that it was being made by the RuneScape guy and it was also an early release and free to play.

[01:31:58] So I was like, hell yeah, because I had been actually grinding in old school RuneScape in my free to play life, chopping trees, killing cows, doing that type of stuff. And I'm like, yeah, I'll play the new sexy version of it. Meanwhile, it is quite different than old school RuneScape. It's actually similar to RuneScape 3 in a lot of ways. So I heard about this game when it was announced, immediately forgot about it.

[01:32:26] And then Nave reminded me about it on an episode of 3PO. And I was like, oh, right, that. Yeah, dude, Philip is the one that brought it to my attention. And we literally just did an episode. So it was like in my brain. I was like thinking about this and then I'm talking to you, which every time I think about RuneScape, I think about Bill now. So it's like, oh, this is perfect. Like the match made in heaven. I'm pretty sure. Did we do it on the episode live? Did I invite you onto the episode? Or was that before? You DM me like a day later. Oh, fuck.

[01:32:56] All right. Well, never mind. Nave, do you have preconceptions with this one? Because we have covered RuneScape in the past. Old school RuneScape. I mean, you know, I had tons of preconceptions with old school RuneScape. I had never heard of this before in my entire life. Philip last or two episodes ago dropped this on me, like this knowledge that I just had no idea. So I thought Philip was going to ask to play RuneScape 3. And then he slid in with brighter shores. I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[01:33:23] Dude, I mean, RuneScape 3 does have a free to play world if you just want to wet your feet. If you guys want to play it, I'll hang out with you guys. I won't be able to do much because I have a member's account, but I'll chill. Just play like, hey. All right. So we got some Steam reviews. Oh, well, I guess we can jump into hours played. I have 5.9 hours on record, which probably ticked over to six because I was playing this while I was waiting for Nave to join the room.

[01:33:54] Bill, by chance you have your Steam time? I got seven. Yeah. So my Steam time is just, I'm just under five hours. It's at 4.8. Okay. So we're all still in the new player experience area. Because we will get into it. This is not a low hour. Did you get out of the first zone? Yeah, I moved on. Okay. We'll get into it then. Quick reviews from Steam.

[01:34:22] 60 hours on record from EM Harry. Basically, Blacktar heroin. If you're autistic and number going up makes your brain happy. Recommend. I do have over 100 hours in cookie clicker. All right. So, I mean, let's not miss words here. That second review is lovely. Oh, did I say 100? I meant 1,000. Okay. I have 1,024 hours in cookie clicker. Oh, there's also a Steam Deck review.

[01:34:51] Bill, you want to read the next one? You see the little icon? Yeah. I saw that. That's probably the first time I've ever seen it. So the second review is not recommended. Played 1,2 hours. Which this already contradicts a little bit. It's from El Rio Rojo. And it says, not recommended. Can't play a game in Venezuela. That's old school racism. Sir, you have 1,2 hours on record. If you can't play it. Yeah, you could have just been the launcher. Yeah, the launcher.

[01:35:21] True, I guess. I love it because it's old school runescape. Old school racism. That's just why I thought it was funny. But also, it's El Rio Rojo. But you didn't know that because... Well, you didn't read the review yet. But El Rio Rojo. Which... What does Rojo mean? That means... Red. How is it? Is it red? I think it's red, yeah. Red, yeah. Okay, so Red Rio. The Red Rio. What does Rio mean?

[01:35:51] River. What are you doing right now? Is that a word? Are you trolling us? You live in Oklahoma? No, I'm not trolling. I'm just... Oh my god. This guy. Have you not played Red Redemption? Oh, is that a thing? Is that a thing in Oklahoma? I'm pretty sure we have like Rio rivers all over the place. Rio River? I don't know. I don't... I don't... I just... I don't think about things like that. I don't like Oklahoma that much. I'm not a patriot of my state.

[01:36:18] Dude, I know how coded the Instagram is to you. Because like I go in... Like Jan will send me a video on Instagram. And it'll just open up the app. And it's like the next ad. It'll be like Oklahoma City tea hopping. Come to our cafes. And I'm like... Oh, I'm a native man. Dude. Yes. It's that and all the videos on... The Gaming Together Instagram. All the videos are like of Shiba Inus. And shit. Yeah, I've noticed that either. And then you go to my Instagram.

[01:36:45] And it is people playing fucking Fortnite Festival and shit. Like I don't know how that happened. But our algorithms are different. Even though I'm really the primary one using them. Anyways. A and GXL recommends this game with 170.5 hours on record. 46 at review time. And it says amazing for adults with crippling mental health. You can't be sad slash anxious if you're grinding out profession levels. Greater than 3. 12 out of 10.

[01:37:14] For not causing my blood pressure to rise like most games. Like Overcooked. I don't know, man. What's talking to you? When you're trying to deliver those food for the orders. And you see that it has 3 minutes left on the clock. And you're like, I could totally make 7 bacon sandwiches in that time. And deliver it to the Krusty Spittoon. Or whatever. And then you don't make it. But then you put fucking tomatoes. You put 2 tomatoes on one sandwich. And instead of taking them off, you have to throw the whole sandwich away.

[01:37:44] The whole sandwich is ruined. Alright, so let's get into this. This is an MMO. Designed around clicking things. Sure is. So, it's so strange. Because first off, you start the game up. You are set to private. You cannot see other players. You cannot talk. You cannot receive friend requests. And then you're just alone. And I wonder how long... How many people have started the game and just never noticed?

[01:38:13] And so they're just playing the whole game. Like, wow, this MMO is a very MM. The whole thing about it is that I'm pretty sure they explicitly are like, open the settings. Like, it's part of the tutorial, but like, open the settings right now. And then it is like, this is turning people off. And if you click it, it turns it on. Or maybe I just read it and went, oh, I want that turned on. And so I just instinctively did it. But yeah. Maybe there are people running around and there's no one on their games.

[01:38:40] And they are just confused, lost, dazed, befuddled. It's really funny because once the game... It's actually really funny because once you get to the point where you can turn the characters on, like everyone else on, the game floods with people. And you're like, holy fuck. Yeah. So that was the point where... Philip might remember, but like I texted him because we were like, let's do this game. And I was like, my computer can't run it.

[01:39:06] Because that was when, when I turned the people on and the game went to like four frames a second. And I was like, oh my god. I'm on the lowest fucking settings and I can't run this game. And Philip was confused. But as soon as I... Because I turned it off right then. And then I turned it back on the next day and walked out of that area. And I was like, oh, I'm fine, actually. This is just a big area with a lot of shit going on. As long as I'm not in here, I'm fine. I never ran into another area where it was all fucked up like that. Yeah. The room where all the noobs are.

[01:39:35] Noob room. Yeah. Alright, so this game is centered around the professions. Everything is profession-based. There's no classes. There's no... There is an overall player level, but it's just the sum of your current profession level in an area. Yeah. It's funny because... We'll get to that later. Because I have problems with that. Oh, you see someone at level 726? Runescape. Like, wow, he's really good.

[01:40:05] It was more that it didn't explain the rules to me very well, and I got very frustrated. Well, the thing about this is the game kind of revolves around, like, your overall player level. And then in Runescape, it's the opposite, where the total player level doesn't mean jack shit. It doesn't mean anything to anyone. People can't even see it. You have to tell them what your level is, and then you just have to believe them. You just have to trust the messenger on the internet. Hey, man, what's your fire starting? If anyone knows... Like, 99? Of course it is.

[01:40:33] Well, the only way you can do that is, like... It's like, take this U and burn it. Well, I mean, if you're 99, you have a cape. But, like, it's like, burn this U if you can't... Well, back in the old school days of Runescape, you'd just all be hanging around fishing or mining, and then someone would just type in levels, question mark, and then you'd all just kick your levels. It's so good. You would get a thousand people, because they're like, Oh my god, that's exactly why I play this game, is so the level goes up. So this is exactly what I was waiting for. Time to flex.

[01:41:04] Yeah, flex my 73. Yeah, so... But anyways... Like, conspiracons to... Are we gonna go down the bullet points? I don't know if we need to go in order. Do you want to just go to skills while we're here? Yeah, I see your cat's tail. So... Walking across, moves across the camera like a windshield wiper. Oh, I have a cat now. That's new.

[01:41:33] Named Juno. Is it new? Yeah, all my other cats died, or... How new is that? I left it with my mom. I used to have, like, three cats, now I'm down to... One. No. That's what I'm saying. You picked it up, and... Oh, you know what I'm fucking thinking of? I'm thinking of your Japanese... You used to do a Japanese, like, solo thing, and you were picking up your cat. Every time you did that recording, your cat would come in and fuck with you. Okay, anyways... Every time. That's what I was thinking of.

[01:42:02] I was like, why did I just hear you talk to me about this? And I was like, oh, you didn't talk to me at all. I have a parasocial relationship with my co-host. I hope you laugh at my jokes, if I make any. Anyways, comparisons to Runescape. Not many in the Japanese one. No. So, this game is very, um... Quiet, I guess, as far as, like, the other players around. Because in Runescape, people will always be talking.

[01:42:30] They'd just be standing around by the goblins. They'd be in the cows. I was so bummed. Like, when I finally got access to the chat, I would be like, yo, what's up? And no one responded. And I was like, well, this sucks. Like, I'm like... Because the thing is, like, the options are very detailed. Like, you can choose, like, if you want your name to be displayed, if you want this to be shown, do you want to be able to get messages from people? Like, you can chain toggle everything.

[01:42:59] Which I have a high, strange feeling a lot of people, like, their toggles are all over the place. So, some people might not even see that you're saying shit. Yeah, I believe that. It's a very lonely game. Despite the fact that there's thousands of people running around. I've had one singular interaction. And that was when I was cooking. And somebody named Big Chung came inside. And then somebody was like, yo, I want to join the Chungus clan.

[01:43:28] And I said something back. And then everyone was like, ha, LOL. And then that was it. That was the whole interaction. And then I never... No one ever replied to me ever again. Except for Phillip. Me and Phillip would talk in the chat. Just hoping that someone would chime in. And then no one ever did. So, that was interesting. You know what was interesting, too? The way that they... The way they do names in this game. It's like you get to pick your name. And then if you... If it's a name that's never been used before, you get a little number one next to it.

[01:43:57] And then if someone happens to pick that same name, they end up being number two. Yeah. Which I saw... Is that how it works? I saw one number two in the whole game. Yes. It is how it works. I saw one number two. Well, because I... Well, I saw like... I saw like Jeb number 37. So... But if you... If you don't... If you pay money, you don't have the hashtag at the end. But the name has to be unique. So... So if you pay money, then your name has to be... You can make your name not have a hashtag, but it has to be unique. Okay, I already said that. Yeah.

[01:44:28] I mean, I was a number one, obviously, because my name was literally Bill GNC Pod. Yeah, I also got a number one. I was the first guitar hero. But I assumed there was a number zero somewhere. So I thought it would be like, whoever got the first just wouldn't have the number. I screenshotted Dong Weasley. I was the first one. Because he also talked to me while I was cooking earlier. And he was talking about how... How there's so much light in this room. It's very lit. And I'm like,

[01:44:57] Oh, you know, what's with the light? And he's like, because the light can't escape. You know, and I'm like, well, light doesn't really escape. It just kind of gets absorbed, right? Oh, it just keeps traveling. And he didn't respond. And he ran out of the room. Because it's cooking. You're only in there for four minutes, and then you run out. The only response I got was, I was trying to chat in the little, like, grinding area where you just massacre all the fucking target practice dummies

[01:45:26] that are standing around. And by dummies, I mean humans that are just there to be attacked. The sparring nuts. I was in there, and I was trying to... Yes. That you massacre over and over again. I was in there, and I tried starting up a conversation, and the only response I got was some guy in the corner just typed in S-T-U-F. And I was like... Or whatever shut the fuck up is. And I was just like, thanks. Cool. The classic multiplayer experience.

[01:45:57] I was like, does anyone want to have fun? I guess not. Not here. Yeah, we're here to make number go up. Dude, everyone is on that grind. Yeah, or they're bots. I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of people are bots in there. Well, it was nuts to me because back in the old days of RuneScape, one of the best was like, you'd be at a grinding spot, and you'd just overhear some of the most insane conversations ever. Yeah.

[01:46:27] I don't know. This game kind of seems like the moderation is probably a little bit more strict. Probably. Just from the toggles. You probably can't say as many things as you could used to in the old school RuneScape days. Or God forbid, Final Fantasy XIV. Yeah. The chat filter is aggressive in this game because there's multiple messages that I tried to type to you that weren't even obscene. I was just like talking to you and I would get blocked like every other message. I don't know what I was saying. Yeah.

[01:46:56] But it was not allowed. Yeah. It was happening to me too, but I have that annoying like habit of I spam talk. So it's like, I don't say a long sentence. I say multiple sentence fragments at once. So like, I would get a thing blocked and I would just like, I mean, it only takes me like a couple seconds to be like, oh, I can reword this somehow. Like I'll keep saying fucking or shit or, you know, that kind of shit. And then like, it'll be blocked. I'm like, okay. So I'm not going to lie.

[01:47:26] Like the start of the game, you go through the little tutorial thing and it's very, it's very simple. It's not as charming as tutorial Island, but it's, it was passable for what it was. I will say the first mission you get, I didn't read it right, I guess, or I got confused because I thought it said you need to get 60 attack. So I spent the first three hours of my game training combat before I realized, oh, it's your total skills and I've been wasting my time here.

[01:47:56] Training doing nothing but killing these soldiers. Well, I mean, you know, you're going to be buff as fuck. Well, I was like 60. That is aggressive. I was like, okay, I guess. You get a cape at 200. Yeah. So how do you? Yeah. For the professions, the capes are at 200, but a lot of the skills go up to 500, but not all of them do. Oh. Like, I think the combat skills have lower caps, but the crafted ones are all like 500. That's kind of like in,

[01:48:26] uh, that's kind of like in runescape three, how most of the skills only go to a 99, but some go to one 20 now. That's just, just guys. I don't like change. Yeah. Oh, did you stop in runescape three now? I think you told me that I think, or I was around when you were talking about it. Yeah. I was lurking in a, in a discord server somewhere. You can now raise the dead in runescape. It's wonderful. All right.

[01:48:55] So let's get into, this is probably the biggest point is you are in a zone. The whole game is an open world. It's like open zone. So we started in Hope port as a city guard. I guess that's what we are. But instead of doing normal guard stuff, which you do do, you do like fight thieves and alleyways and crabs on the beach, you know, normal cop stuff. But, uh, a lot of times birds in an alley. Yeah. The birds,

[01:49:23] you find the birds right in front of the, uh, the foraging store. Dude, they fucked me up so many times. They did. Well, oh, there's, there's a thing about the combat I want to talk about because it doesn't tell you about this. As you're training your combat, eventually you'll get to a level where like the, the, the foes you're training will just suddenly get stronger, but it won't tell you that exactly. Yeah. So then suddenly you're getting your ass kicked and you're like, wait, you realize, Oh yeah.

[01:49:53] They don't scale with you. They, they have tears. So everything in this game has tears. So like, if you need cod, if you're fishing and you need cod, then there'll be like a level 20 or whatever. And, but the next year will be like, you need the rare cod. You need rare red cod now. And, but it will be in the same spot where the original cod was, but like, you know, you fish from the same place. And I think that's interesting because you can do,

[01:50:20] you can fish for the previous type, right? I don't know why you would ever do that in the combat. You can do that in the combat as well, but like you can, in the other ones, it makes sense because when you're fishing, you can use those things for cooking, but you can't cook the rare cod yet. You need to cook the original river, whatever. I don't know what cod is, honestly, but like you, you, if you need the older ones, you can do that, which is, you know, you can also buy them from the store. So I don't know. It's a,

[01:50:49] it's a really weird system, but it kind of makes sense because the map is so crunched together rather than the giant expansive world that runescape has. I think it's good because it's actually like shit. Well, you can rob people. Yeah. You can go into the barracks and you can go through everybody's little chest next to their heads and steal their shit. They got like, I did that during the, when the true, but it's still money. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:51:18] You're that much closer to being a party hat wearing. Well, no, you get guy, a fricking trowel is expensive, man. Like the trowel. I just bought it. It's like 45 silver. That's all my money. I had to buy. And I'm like, this is insane. God damn shells. Dude, digging up shells, digging up potatoes. It would just felt like they're gouging me. This is like one of the biggest money drains. I've seen this economy because before I was even talking shit to nave, I'm like, nave, why do you even bother making money in this game?

[01:51:48] And he's like, you need money. And what for? Turns out you need it. If you're going to skill at higher levels, there's just like money barriers where it's like, Hey, do you want to do foraging above level 20? Then you need a trowel, which costs 45 silver. And I guess I got to go fry some eggs for the next three hours. I just killed birds in the alley outside until I outside. Well, yeah, I mean, I, I have like 180 silver, like,

[01:52:18] and I was buying shit constantly. Like I was like, like I was doing my potions. I just bought like 300 bottles. You know, I just buying like everything I needed. I have so many, like 10% like a healing potions, but they're like useless. They like, don't do anything. Yeah, you've got to sell them. Yeah. You got to sell them. Yeah. Because, because when you use a potion and combat, it puts it on cool down. So you're fucked. Yeah. I will say though, one nice thing about this game that I prefer over runescape. When you die, you don't lose all your shit. Oh my God.

[01:52:48] Yes. And also after every fucking fight, instant heal, like you're just back to full health and you just immediately start fighting something else. I'm like, Ooh, that's kind of, it doesn't make any sense at all, but it's nice. This is how, this is how short my attention span is. Like I forgot that there's like legit a home teleport back to the main area that you actually unlock as part of the first mission. I forgot that was there. So what I would do is, well, yeah, what I would do is I would just go and kill myself just to teleport back. Cause I'd be like, Oh, I need to get back quick.

[01:53:17] I'll just go die on this stronger enemy. And then forgetting there's a teleport that literally brings you right there. There's a lot of strong dudes just roaming the roaming the fucking forest. Which luckily they don't fight. Aggro you. There's some, they don't care about you. Yes. There's some enemies that do. I don't know what changes. God forbid you go down that aisle with the muggers. Yeah. Or the fucking goblins. Like I was completely just exploring the town. I was like, Oh, this is,

[01:53:46] Oh yeah. I was exploring through the town. I'm like, just like checking out. I'm like, Oh, what's this aisle? And it's just like muggers. And they're just like kill on site. And I'm like, Oh no, it's so crazy because it's like, who the fuck are you? Are you serious? I'm level 40. Like, what are you doing? Die. Like one fucking swing of my golden paladin. Like that's ultra rare or whatever. What's it called? The sticky pointy things. You know what? I love it though. Like all the, the, all the players that clearly just started running around it.

[01:54:15] This reminded me so much of old school, like the old days of ruinscape where everybody's armor is just a mismatch or whatever shit they found on the ground. And it's like the greatest shit. Just looking at all these cobbled together outfits running around. I don't know how to get armor. Honestly, I don't know how else to get it. Kill things, kill things, drop it randomly. Yeah. Which even the birds, the birds will drop like rare helmets, dude. Even the sparring nights, you like beat them up and they'll drop like a chest plate on the ground and you just pick it up. And they're like,

[01:54:45] good one, bro. As they're like laying crumpled on the ground. Also, the thing that did annoy me though, was like, if there was a lot of people in the sparring area, like you'd click to attack and then someone would snipe your attack and you'd be like, someone's already attacking this. I'm like, okay. But like on, on all of the non-combat things,

[01:55:13] you don't fight for resources. But when you are in combat, you do fight for the, for the mobs, which is bizarre, you know? Cause everything else is like your own. Like when you're fishing, you have, there's only one fish. Like on runescape, you click a spot and then you're just fishing there. Like it's kind of like cooking in this game. But in this game, when you're fishing, there are individual fish that you have to walk around and like fish for, except in the fishing spots, which I never got to. Cause I never got a high enough level, but like, so when you're,

[01:55:42] when you're harpooning the fucking stupid flat build, fuck face fish, I can't remember what they're called. The dab or the flounder? Yeah, the flounder. So like when you're, when you're harpooning them, the flounder you see, it's not the flounder that your friend sees. So everyone's always going around fighting their own flounder and shit, which one thing that I really like, which we talked about this before, where people will be like level. And then like, everyone will say their level in this game.

[01:56:11] You can see what they're getting. So if you're getting the rare red trout, then that you have to be level 50 to fish for. That is what you'll pull up from the ground. And so, or from the water. And so if anyone's watching, they'll see that and they won't know that it's the level 50 trout, but they'll know it's not what their trout looks like. So they'll feel inferior and you know, they'll cower before you. It's pretty nice. Every man has to fight his own flounder.

[01:56:38] Every man has to rank his trout against another man's. It's just what we do. Another man's trout. Yeah. I spent so many hours just dig, digging in the dirt, cutting flowers in front of the mansion, or like trimming the fucking tree bushes outside. I've been over by the birds. I trimmed the trees for five hours straight. Yeah. Just to get that fucking foraging level up so I can go make more potions. That's why. Yeah. So I, I,

[01:57:06] so we can talk about our levels over here, but so it sounds like a bill did a lot more foraging than me and Phillip did. Phillip got to level 10, which is a lot more. I mean, it doesn't take that long to get to level 10, but I was mostly concerned with cooking and fishing. I don't know why. I mean, I do know why it's cause like, I like it. I like fishing in games. I just, I don't care what it's like. It's one of those things. Yeah. Fishing, fishing is fun. It's fun for me.

[01:57:35] Little guys. No, you're good. As far as skill wise, I just hated the potion making thing. Potions are dumb. I don't like that. Cringe. The thing with fishing that irritated me is cause you have to actively do it. So this is one thing that I was doing when I was playing this game. I was doing a lot of Duolingo. Right. And so once I moved on from cooking, I was like, I'm going to be able to fish and just keep doing Duolingo because there's a long, when you're cooking, you're, you're in one spot, not moving for like four minutes.

[01:58:05] And so, and you're not clicking on anything or anything. So I'm just sitting there doing my lessons. And then I go to fish and I can't do that anymore, but I'm already like, I'm going to fish. Like that's where my mindset is. So I'm trying to fish and do Duolingo at the same time, but I'm not really paying attention. I'm half-assing my lessons and shit. And so when I get to the potions, I'm like, I'm expecting it to happen again, but no, again, you can just sit in one spot and I'm like, Oh my God, I'm saved. I'm back. But then like in my car and my whole loop, I was like,

[01:58:33] I need to at least get to hope for forest and you need to work on your combat for that. And I was worried about the combat because I had died up to that point. And I was assuming it was runescape rolls and you'd lose everything, which is not the case. So that was great. And combat again, it's just like you click on something and then you can just start doing lessons. It's great. That's why our notes are so intricate is because me and Phillip were just sitting there doing nothing.

[01:58:57] So I spent a good hour just going back and forth on the beach, just digging up dirt and digging up shells. Just I'd go to one end, go all the way back, go to one end, go all the way back. Were you multitasking though? So this is a, so I was, I was in a discord call with some other people while I was doing this. Oh, right on. So, uh, I would like to bring up this because I thought that this was really interesting and I don't know if

[01:59:26] runescape does this. I mean, I, it must do it to a degree because it's a windowed game, but, um, well, I mean, it's old school runescape on steam. Is there a launcher for it? That's cool. Well, I mean, anyways, the, so this game is a, has a launcher and everything. Um, if you do a half window, like on windows, you can like make half your screen, one screen and happy screen. The other, that's what I do whenever I'm doing these, uh, recordings, uh, for you listeners, you, the, the UI will physically morph and, and, and fit your screen.

[01:59:56] So I was doing half screen. I had the note like you, so they like the on, in our notes, Philip and Bill can see like the, what I was literally doing, how I was playing the game. So I'd have like a YouTube video or something up on the side, or I would be like doing, working on my notes and it will continue to scale. So in the game, the UI, you can like, there are three tabs on the left, right. There's one on the left, one on the right, one on the bottom, the bottoms for chat. The left is for like inventory and map.

[02:00:23] And the right one is for like all the other settings and stuff. And like, it's where your quests and stuff go and all that, all that, whatever your professions. And those will move the, the, the game window itself as well. It's like, it's really cool. And they definitely put a lot of thought into it. And they knew that people were going to be playing this game similarly to runescape where they're going to be doing it as they're doing something else. Right. Did you guys pick up the cabbage in like the, the first area just, just to pick it up because it's really,

[02:00:52] because of the runescape connection. I don't think I noticed the cabbage. I didn't realize. Oh, so the cabbage is a running gag in runescape where there's, it's like cabbage is just like the most useless thing in runescape. Like it's always been kind of a joke. Like back in the old days, if you would swear in runescape, they'd replace the swear with just the word cabbage or some stupid shit. It was always kind of a thing. Like there, there was a famous quest where like you had to get this one specific cabbage from a drain or manner to throw into a pot to cause the mad, the,

[02:01:22] the potion. Oh yeah. And like, and yeah, which that's, that quest is gone in runescape three. They completely got rid of it. Um, but what's, what was funny is like, so many people would get to the potion port where they have to throw the cabbage in the potion and they would accidentally eat it all the way back and get another one. But yeah, cabbage has always been cabbage has always just been kind of like a running joke in runescape. So when I saw one sitting there, I was like, Ooh,

[02:01:51] I have to pick it. And it's like, this is an interesting thing that, that could, that is impossible to happen. That kind of situation in this game, because I put this in here too. There is no right click function functionality in this game, both left click and right click do the same. Like there's only one click. So in runescape, when you right click, it opens up the fucking like menu to like, how do you want to interact with this thing in this game? That's the default. Like it will always open up the menu to how you know what that is with this thing. And it's kind of annoying.

[02:02:18] I think we are future proofing for mobile players. Like, I think that that's part of like why they have such big icons, why the text boxes are like so big is like, they are setting up for like small displays that can, you know, like the arrows, you just tap them and they swing open or you can tap on little icons. I think this whole game is basically a mobile game in development. It's less than a game. And I, it's also going for,

[02:02:45] I was literally playing it as if it were a mobile game on my screen, because it's only like, it's like, what is that? Like fucking five by five by nine. What if, you know what I mean? It's like a skinny version of the game, but it was playable. That's how I was playing it the whole time. What'd you guys think of like the graphics presentation? Like, I thought it was, I thought it was cute. Like the way they designed the world. I was in low poly mode, as you can see in the screenshot. So I had no textures.

[02:03:15] I was playing a textureless game. It was funny because like, you'd go around and like, there'd be like really defined structures, but then like, you'd get to like the edge of the beach. It's just fucking cubes. You'd be like, okay. Yeah. It's, it's, it's under construction. It makes it feel like, um, like you're talking about the Mario RPG games, like almost like a paper Mario situation, like with the tiles, when you walk off of a map. So I found it very cute and interesting in a MMO type way, but it sucks for talking because like,

[02:03:43] you can only talk to people in your room. So like if we were doing the chef thing, I'm talking to what was his name? Dong Weasley. And then he runs out of the room to go get more ingredients. I'm never going to see that guy again. Our conversation's over. It's got Adam. I wonder if he has his friend request turned on. Because there's only one game world. I wonder if it's a way to like cut down on like the amount of, uh, people clogging up the servers. Well,

[02:04:12] I think there are multiple worlds because I can click on nave in the friends list and click join player world. If we were in different instances. Hmm. I'm curious. Cause they didn't, they don't give an option at the beginning. Oh, about what zone or world. Maybe it's all under the hood. Yeah. Maybe it's all under the hood. Well, I think that's how they do like world of Warcraft where it's like you walk into an area and if it's like a multi realm, area,

[02:04:39] then it'll just like put you where it won't be overpopulated, but there will be other players. Yeah. Like destiny. Destiny's like that too. And the hubs. Yeah. It's not like ruin scape where it's, you have to pick a legit world. Cause like whenever I play RS three, I'm always in world 59. So just because. Yeah. You get your own world, man. I got the, I was thinking about that in a final fantasy 14. Philip, does, does the character you make when you go into a server, is that character bound to that server or do they, can they move around? It's bound to that data centers.

[02:05:10] Yeah. There's a groupings and those are the data centers. So I think you can move in between the servers on a data center, but you can't jump data centers. Like I can go from, like we started on a fairy, I think. And then it's like, I can go to Gilgamesh if there, if there is overpopulated. Yeah. As long as it's not in a different. Okay. Gotcha. I was worried about that. But anyway, let's back to this. Let's look into the skills and professions. One thing that I really like,

[02:05:40] what do you got? Well, I was going to say one thing that before we move on, cause I got one more little thing, uh, spear, the, the sprint stamina that exists in old school runescape is not in this game. And thank fucking God. Yeah. Thank God. I fucking, it, it makes me stop playing when I'm playing old school runescape. Like when I run out of sprint in the middle of like a run back to the bank, I'm like, you know what? I don't need to play this game. And then I just fucking tear it off. Like that's happened to me so many times. See, see, there's a simple solution.

[02:06:10] You just play RS three. And when you have to rest, you just sit on the ground. It goes back up and you keep running. You don't even got to do that in this game. You just run in all day. It's like your doom guy, your master chief. You never stop. You're like, uh, what's his name? Forrest Humphrey. What's his name? Is there a way to make us a walk in this game? Or scout. Oh yeah, that's it. Grump. Grump. Yeah. I don't think there is. I think you just have like a point and click and you just go.

[02:06:40] All right. So let's talk about the skills. I think you can, you can walk. So combat skill is simplified into one skill in each zone. For instance, in the hope port, you are a guard in hope forest. You're a scout. And then there's different ones for like each little area. Now, see, this is the weird thing because I want to talk about combat. Uh, Navy, I see you already put a note in there, but combat is weirdly scaled in this game where it's like, you can be a level 40 guard in hope port,

[02:07:08] but as soon as you go to hope forest, you're a level one scout scrub noob gets spit on. Yeah. Is that weird? Uh, so it's incredibly weird. They already. So this is what I was talking about with the update, but so they put out a news a few days before recording this three days before recording this, that they already plan on merging the combat professions. So it's not going to be the way that we're talking about right now,

[02:07:36] but the way that it currently functions in the game is how Philip described you. You, you lose your level and you still have your equipment and everything, but whenever you go into the next area and you become a scout and hope, hope forest, um, your weapons immediately become nerfed to the extreme. So even if you have a level 60 halberd, uh, it's going to be doing minimal damage to the level one enemies that are in the area. And the weird thing is, is because I was like, Oh, well, since you're a scout,

[02:08:04] you're going to be getting different weapons and different armor and stuff. Right? Well, you kind of get different armor, but you get the same weapons. So whenever I got a good drop in hope forest, it was another halberd. So I was still, I was just using a weaker weapon version of the same thing that I already have for my other game, for my guard skill for the F. And by the way, the zones are called episodes. Yeah. Weird. That was an odd choice. So yeah, it's episode two. When you go to hope forest, they can say that like, you know,

[02:08:33] it's episodic then name like, Hey, every season, there's a new zone with new skills, new episode out, come back to a brighter shores. It is. It's kind of, it's got a, a ring to it, I guess. Maybe. I think I'm just too runescape brained. We're like, I'm just not used to like that. I'm just used to like being this unstoppable murder machine running around. So the big thing about it is that it definitely caps the numbers, right?

[02:09:02] Because a lot of games that MMOs that go on for a long time, they go through this phase where it's like you're the, the numbers have to keep going up. And so eventually you're doing like millions of damage. Isn't it, wasn't it world of Warcraft that had to literally do an update where it just cut like three zeros off of everything. Yeah. They flattened the damage or like four, five, like they just made the damage like way less. It just makes sense. It's literally the reason why I don't play Yu-Gi-Oh is because I fucking hate the giant numbers.

[02:09:31] I'd rather just be simplified. It's like, why does, why does blue eyes, white dragon have 3,500 attack? Why didn't it just have 35 attack? Everything has something thousand attack. You know what I mean? Like just make, cut two of the zeros off, make it simple so that you can mentally like understand what the fuck's going on. Well, here's what I don't understand. And they kind of are already attacking that. Yeah. What is the, like,

[02:09:58] it's just weird because they also split the professions in each point where it's like, Oh, uh, you can do cooking in hope port and you can go fish because there's fish. Uh, but of course there is no fishing or cooking in the forest because you are in the forest, I guess. You're gathering. So weird. That's fine. But once again, if we bring it back to the combat level in old school runescape in runescape three,

[02:10:26] everything you do is kind of linked together as far as like, you can do these production skills such as like cooking and stuff and potion making to make better potions to help you in combat. And you can kind of do that with potion making, but then it's like, once you make it to hope forest, you're not making potions anymore. Like, what are you doing to help you in combat there? Is it like gathering certain foods? Like it seems, I don't know. I don't know. the skill system is just so weird. Like I'm,

[02:10:55] I'm down for a new skill system. I want to see the mold broken, but it doesn't feel like it's jiving right now. We might just be here too early, but I, I don't like this. I don't like change. Yeah. Well, so this is the thing is that the areas are, they're cordoned off for their specific, for being able to use the abilities and, and, and grind them. But like they, so they're each area kind of builds on itself.

[02:11:25] So in hope port, you got the chef and the fishermen are homogenous. And then the forager and the alchemist are homogenous. Like those guys are helping each other. And then you get to scout. When you get to hope forest, you have the gatherer, the woodcutter and the carpenter. The gatherer is actually working for the chef and the alchemist. And in the, in the last area. And then the woodcutter and carpenter are obviously homogenous. And then you get to the next one. So you have to backtrack? And I don't know the mine, obviously. To actually use the items you get from gatherer? Yeah. Because you do have that teleport.

[02:11:55] You unlock teleport like right away. It's not like runescape where you gotta do level 40 magic or whatever. And then you have runes and shit. Well no, in our, in our three we have, we just have lodestones where we can just teleport wherever now. Yeah. That's how most, like that's how final fantasy is. And ESO and shit. ESO, yeah. So in this game, like you can teleport back and start working on your other things. And you will always like, even on level one, you're going to walk around and there's like level 500,000 walking around. You know what I mean? Like people are still going back to the original area and doing their alchemy and shit.

[02:12:24] But yeah. So like in the mine, you have the blacksmith and the stonemason and the miner. Those all obviously go together. I have no fucking godly idea what a bone right could possibly be, but like maybe it's the necromancer. Maybe they beat runescape through the punch. I don't know. I don't know how long it's even been out. Apparently it specifically creates melee weapons, range weapons and shields specific to guardians. Whatever a guardian is. Is that you? Are we guardians? Is this, um, uh, what was the space game?

[02:12:54] Destiny? Halo guardians. Oh yeah, that's right. They're guardians. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Oh no. Okay. So these are the different classes because there are classes or like specializations that you get later on. There's guardian cryo night and hammer mage. And the, the, the three of those crafting things in the mine. If you look, uh, in my screenshots that I posted,

[02:13:23] that is me in that area where you choose what you want to be. And I ended up being the guardian actually. Yeah. So that's crazy that I just, I just, I literally, I literally, that's like one of the last things I did. No, I literally, I chose like the most boring one, honestly. Cause one guy is like a Thor Olympian guy. And the other guy is like the fucking Lich King from world of Warcraft. And then the last, the person in the middle is tree girl. And I was just like, the reason why I picked tree girls, cause I am in the forest. So I was like,

[02:13:53] it really, what I did was pick squirtle knowing that Brock was coming up. You know what I mean? So I was like, Oh, if I'm going to be forest person, I might as well, if I'm going to be in the forest, I might as well be forest person. Fuck. All right. Then the bone right makes sense. If you're creating Lich weapons. Yeah. Cause it is literally the, you, they just look like the Lich King from world of Warcraft. All right. Uh, but yeah, so that's the only thing I think we might discuss more is like, Bill, how do you feel about these skills?

[02:14:26] I don't mind them. I think it's a little, the thing I find weird is like, it felt like he made this game to go back to basics on what runescape used to be. But at the same time, it feels like it's unneedlessly complicated for like, it's almost runescape three level at times where like, you really got to figure out every little thing. And like, you know, I had to look up a few guides on how to do certain things. Cause I was confused. Um, there's a lot of shit going on at once. Um, I like the idea.

[02:14:54] I'm just not sure how I feel about it all being separated all over the place. Well, now that Nate mentions how you do double back for certain things, it feels like it's not going to be as big of a thing because now looking at the skill list, they do build on each other. So like in Hope Forest, you have Gatherer, which you can then return back to the port to do more alchemy and cooking with your gathering skill.

[02:15:23] And then also in the forest, you start woodcutting and Carpenter, which is where you need to get pole, stabs, and planks for the, uh, Bone Rite, Blacksmith, and Stonemason, which are how you make your class specific here. And, but you don't actually start doing that until you get to the mines. So it looks like the mine stuff would require you to double back to the forest to do woodcutting to support your mine activities.

[02:15:53] So it does seem these things aren't that separated. Which if you really think about it, so if you really think about it, uh, it kind of is the way that it is in like old school runescape a little bit. The only difference is that like most towns will have, like, they'll have forages and they'll have like areas to cut trees. So you kind of, but like, if you want, if you want willows, you have to go to this one specific place. Right. And if you want the specific thing, you got to go to this, you know,

[02:16:21] so there's a lot of areas in runescape that actually are kind of cordoned off like this, especially if you don't pay for it. If you, if you're a member, then nevermind, but like ignore that part. But like, yeah. So for free members, you really do have like, like you can only do your use in like specific areas. And even then everyone's min maxed. So, you know where the actual optimal area is and you know where the second optimal area is just in case the first optimal area is too many people there fighting for the resource.

[02:16:48] What'd you think of how like every skill has its own bank? Okay. I kind of like that. I just wish that you could withdraw from the bank automatically, but that might just be too brain dead. You know what I mean? Like that might be like bought heaven. Actually, if I, if you could just do the chef stuff with your ingredients in there and not you, because a lot of games are like that. I can't remember what I'm thinking of on the top of my head, but I'm thinking of like survival games. Like, yeah. Okay. Well, yeah.

[02:17:18] So like, that's extremely convenient, but like, yeah, this game is already probably bought heaven just by the way, just how little interaction you kind of have with a lot of the mechanics. Judging by how robotic all the players on the screen appear at times, like, yeah. Yeah. But see, the thing is, is like, are bots a bad thing also? Because there doesn't seem to be a player economy.

[02:17:47] At least I haven't been making it that far. Like what would be the point of making money in this game? Is there a leaderboard? I don't know. I don't think so. At least I haven't seen one. Oh, no, there is one. Cause it asked you if you want to appear on it in the privacy thing. Yeah, that's true. Botting does kind of appear to be, I don't think there's really a point of body in this game right now.

[02:18:17] And he was, maybe they're just preemptively doing it just in case in the future. It'd be useful. What about game that tune? That game, that tune discord. Uh, one of the people that do the podcast wrote today, I'm pretty sure on Tuesday, I'll have a huge announcement. What does that mean? What's going on? That's ominous. No, it might not be ominous, but it's just like,

[02:18:44] now we've seen behind the curtain slightly. Hmm. But we don't even know if it's actually their show. Like if that was the show they're talking about, cause they can be on multiple shows. Yeah. Random guys just have to be using the same username. Yeah, but we have a username is the only connective tissue here.

[02:19:16] No. How about this? Uh, what is this? It's, it's jgangstow 187 at game that tune dot club. This is them. This is that, that is their podcast. That would be bizarre. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It could be. That would be so bizarre. All right. So going back to the banks. Yeah, there are specific banks and it's weird because I don't know which thing goes into which bank.

[02:19:45] So that really messes me up sometimes. And some things just don't go in the bank at all. Cause at the, cause I'm the, alchemy bank in, in the alchemy place. It's, um, there's the one for like potions, but then there's one for your resources as well. But like the half made potions don't go in the resource one and they just sit in your, uh, inventory. Oh really? I didn't notice that. Yeah. Usually I finish making the potions. Yeah.

[02:20:15] I usually finish making them too. The good thing too, is that like whenever you, whenever you buy a item specifically for a specific thing, like, uh, bottles is what I'm thinking of. Um, they don't take up space in your inventory. Like they would in runescape. Like in runescape, you have to buy, you have to make or buy like 28 bottles. And then you have to go to the bank. You kind of have to do that for some things in this game. Like you have to do that with the fish and the ingredients and stuff, but the bottles themselves are like a resource.

[02:20:43] So you can have like a bunch in one. They all stack in one slot outside of your, of your inventory, like in another like window somewhere. Oh yeah. There's a container menu and there's also a tool belt in you, which is a holdover from runescape three. I believe. Yes. Yep. There is a tool belt in RS three. Yeah. Which is, if you buy like a fish, if you have a fishing pole or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. That's tough.

[02:21:13] Anything specific to your professions. This game has a bounty board. I don't know. This was in any of the other runescapes, but this is an ESO where someone will put a big bounty up or whatever. And I'll just be like, Hey, all you wand crafters out there, create a fire wand. And then you create one and you can turn it in and you get a bunch load of XP and money. They have it in this game. Yeah. It's basically Uber eats. Yeah. I did the cooking runs a lot.

[02:21:41] I would just make some cooking runs. I was like, Philip, where is the Western wall? And you're like, it's follow me. And then you didn't take me there. So I just wandered off. You went somewhere else. I didn't just stood around. I was like, okay, nevermind. I didn't realize there was, there was a map for this game for a while. I was like, Oh, there was a map that would stay out. Looking at knaves thing where you can pull that tab out. I thought you had to click the map icon. It would temporarily come up on your screen and you could click on it. Just find there and scroll around and stuff.

[02:22:11] But the second you click off of it, it would disappear. So I just had to repeatedly pull the map out every time I wanted to move around. I didn't know you could just leave it out. You hit the little arrow. Yeah. See that now. But it takes up more space than it would before. The map is sick because you can click and drag it and like click it on places. I mean, like you can do that in old school runescape too, but I mean, that's still nice, you know? Yeah. Especially because then this game and all like in old school runescape, you can only walk so far.

[02:22:40] Like it'll only let you click so far away in this game. It's not that it's only, you can only go three rooms away or something like that, maybe two rooms away. And so I would just keep, I would wait until the screen turned black. I would just be staring dead eyed at the map. As soon as the screen like transitioned a little bit, I would immediately click to the next spot, click drag, get ready to click the next spot. I don't know. Yeah. It turns into a zombie. Yeah. Do you want to talk about that?

[02:23:07] So we've reiterated that there's not that much interaction actually required for most of the gameplay. You're just grinding. This is definitely a second monitor type game. How do you guys feel about that? Like, cause this isn't an idle game because you do need to click to actually get anything done, but it's like a weird middle ground between an actual game and an idle game. Yeah. It's good. Busy work. It's basically what RS three is now.

[02:23:37] It's like, cause RS three has a lot of stuff to keep you from a actually that makes you actually have to pay attention. Like for me, what I do is I'll do the same thing I'll do with like RS three is like, I'll have like either a book to the side. I'll read or like, I'll put like an anime on, on my phone and just kind of prop it in front of the screen. Just do stuff like that. Just to keep busy. It's, it's a good thing to keep the brain stimulated while you do other things. But like, I don't know if I'd like this in every game I played. Yeah, for sure.

[02:24:07] Not it, it makes it, it speaks a lot. I think whenever I'm like, Hey, every time there's something I have to click a more, like the fishing, I get upset. Cause I'm just, I'm just trying to do my Duolingo, you know, like maybe I'm not really enjoying the game too much. What I'm enjoying is the number getting higher. Like that's, that's the part that I really like. Phil's being questioned. Oh yeah. No, Arthur's about to go to bed. Somebody's holding him up by his,

[02:24:36] his stuffed kitty. Oh. And I think it sounds serious. It's a cool story. No, you gotta find that kitty. Otherwise he can't sleep. But yes, I hate that you have to click three times on an enemy just to attack him. First you click on him, you click fight. And you click what weapon you want to attack. Or it's even more. If it's like, you want to use the fight, like an older enemy,

[02:25:04] like you have to go down to the other menu and then pick the older enemy. And then you click attack. It's like a, it is wild. There should be a toggle that is just like, always use the first weapon. That's why it's in the first lot. Yeah. Always use the first weapon, please. And then I'll change it if I need to. Like do the fights get so insane at the higher levels that you, that is necessary that you always use. Like you always have to figure out which weapon you need to use or what, because I've gotten into fights. This is the thing before I got my weapon in hope forest.

[02:25:34] My, my really good halberd actually did like forest damage. So I would fight like forest enemies and they'd be immune and I would die because I had a nerfed weapon. I was just trying to kill people and get a fucking weapon that would work. Like just a level one weapon would be better than what I had. Yeah. But you know, it takes a little bit. Do you guys have any other me points? Uh, no. It was,

[02:26:05] yeah. This final word territory. Indeed. All right. Then I'll take these first final words. Uh, this game is going to be a recommend for me when me and they were playing. I had it up on one monitor and I had old school runescape on the other monitor and I was just clicking between them like a, like a fucking idiot. I was, you know, this is a great game to,

[02:26:34] a great game to play while waiting for things to happen in runescape. You've got runescape in one corner and then the runescape successor in the other corner. Dude, I mean, okay. The thing is though, is if I pulled up both of these and I'm like, am I going to play old school runescape as a free member or am I going to play pride or shores and early, early release? I'm still thinking I'm going to pull up runescape like old school runescape because there's just something charming about runescape. It's probably the nostalgia,

[02:27:04] but, uh, I've just been really into it, but that's a recommend for me. Uh, it's weird because it's not really co-op as far as I can tell. Apparently you don't unlock trading until like the, you make it to like chronopolis or something like that. It's like way far out there. So. So there's just like no real co-op way. I can tell. Talk to you. Yeah. No one wants to talk to me. All right. Who wants these next final words?

[02:27:35] Uh, I mean, I guess I'll go. It's like, there's a, there's a charm about this game. I think it's also recommend. It's hard to not recommend a free game. You know? I mean, we did, we, I slapped her. I spent an hour and a half slapping around Marvel rivals and then recommended it at the end because it's free. So it's difficult to be like with an asterisk. Uh, if you don't like games where you don't have much input, then this isn't the game for you, especially after playing final fantasy 14. Now, if you can get around like the, the,

[02:28:04] the heinous community, that's kind of, uh, kind of conglomerated around that. Um, I would, I would recommend final fantasy 14. If you're into more of a active, uh, MMO, um, it's, it's pretty interesting. And what one really side tangent real quick, but I was streaming the whole time, my whole first experience with it. And like seven people came into my chat and just like started helping me just randomly like typing in shit. So me and Casey would be talking and be like, why, why is this, this,

[02:28:34] why does this exist? And then people would start talking. There's, you're not going to get really anything like that from this game, nor do you really need it because even though there can be like some miscommunications with like some of the mechanics, especially if you've played runescape, a lot of that doesn't translate over, uh, and can actually like take you down the wrong path. Um, cause I had like Bill brought it up already, but I had something similar happen to me as well, where I, I didn't understand something cause I thought it worked like runescape. Um, but in the, in the end,

[02:29:03] I think that the game is cute enough that people who just need something going on on the second screen, second monitor, this is a perfect kind of game for that. Cause you aren't really looking at it too much. Hmm. Um, for my final thoughts, I'd also give this game a high recommend. I think this is actually, if you're new to MMOs and you're looking for one to jump into right off the bat, just as a first attempt, I think this is actually a pretty good one. Cause it's early in its development that there's not a ton of crazy shit yet. Like the,

[02:29:32] the community hasn't gotten mental and it isn't like, it's not like jumping into runescape now where you're like, I don't even know where to go. There's no Gundams running around. Yeah. It's like, it's a very simple, it's a very easy to play by yourself kind of game. Like, and it's contained enough that like, I think if you're just like, if you're just curious about the MMO genre, this one's a good one to jump into. It's very cute, very simple. And it's fun. It's good. Mindless. Like we need to kill a couple hours and you want to just like turn your brain off and just do something.

[02:30:02] This is a great game for that. Um, yeah, I'd highly recommend it. Nice. Nice. Uh, pretty good. Good spread then. At this point, Bill, I want to thank you for coming out once again to the gaming together recording studio. Hopefully we're less laggy. Next time we have you on. Do you want to tell our listeners where you can be found? Sure. So I'm sure you guys know from past episodes. I'm Bill. I do way too many podcasts. I'm kind of crazy. Um,

[02:30:31] I'm on three podcasts currently right now. I've got gaming and collecting, uh, my main show I do with my sister. It's gaming anime based nostalgia podcast. Um, I also have the three deal experience. It's a video game console retrospective where me and my friend Thrak talk about a whole, but we basically talk about the three deal console and everything about it. Every week we'll pick either a game or some sort of topic related to three deal. And we'll go from there. And then I also do a show called geek addicts with my buddy, Matt, where we, it's a pop culture podcast. We just talk about basically anything pop culture every week. It's kind of like two buddies just shooting the shit every week.

[02:31:02] Um, and you can find all of those over at link tree slash the barber who games, or you can check us out over on the super pod network where you can also find gaming together. Hmm. Nice. Nice. That's where we at over there. Super, super pod network.com. I plugged the thing, Aaron. I plugged the thing. Yeah. Good job. Good job. All right, Nave. What are you doing next week? Oh, which by the way, uh, yeah, big shout, uh, pretty soon, probably after this episode is already released.

[02:31:31] So I mean, oops, but, uh, we're going to be doing a, uh, Metacritic draft. We're going to be trying to do it. All right. By the time I'm done editing this probably 30 minutes before it's supposed to go live. Uh, I will have known. So if this doesn't actually happen, I'll cut it out, but we're trying to do a Metacritic draft and that'll be over on super pod network. It'll be a video podcast. We're going to be drafting games. And at the end of the year, we're going to see, it's like fantasy football. Basically. I've got, I made a big list. You know, I'm, I'm,

[02:32:01] I'm doing good. I'm out here making notes. I helped with these notes. I'm doing next week's notes. And I'm doing those notes at the same time, three times all while playing brighter shores, by the way, as if it's not good enough of a recommendation for brighter shores, what we're doing next week though, we're playing mouthwashing. Uh, or I, we played mouthwashing already. Unfortunately, Philip won't be there, but Philip, since you know what's happening, you can write in and do some stuff. If you want to, if you got anything particular, you want to say, you've got the access to the notes,

[02:32:30] just write your notes name in purple or something. I don't know. I'll be sure to do that. All right. All right. And with that, thanks for joining us this week called partners. Maybe next time we can all fight that flounder together. See you. Nice. Bye. Have a good one.