Are Game Prices Too Low?

Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of I shouldn't do the whole episode like that, like something I have our third or you sound like Harry Shear or something like Jill, just like that notion remember. And he's like, and I could say anything right now and you wouldn't even care. And he's like, he's just like that, and he tells me, he tells me, it's just got to like douchebag or something like that. Ye yep, And now it's time for mister screen. What'sn't his name? Handsome Dan thinks, so it should change my gamer tag that Hello everybody, and welcome to another episode of the Elder Trolls Gaming podcast. If you are new, we are the three brothers and we get together and we talk about gaming and we talk other stuff to tech, TV, movies, pop culture, that kind of thing. I am taking Easy Johnno, and I am Nasty Night and I am dand Off the Wise And today we'll be discussing the price of video games. The price of video games, with recent news that Capcom said that they're just not charging enough the games are too cheap. I don't think. I don't think would agree Primal should cost more money. Bring that up later. We'll dive into that. Yeah, a bit later, we certainly will. But first, guys, Dumbledore actor Michael Gambon has died at the age of eighty two. Real. Wow, Michael Gambon, the Bambon, the good Dumbledore, the second Doubledoor. Oh they're both now dead, both now dead. Yeah? Oh really, yeah, I'm eighty two. That doesn't even seem that old, doesn't hit Dumbledore remembers two guys, Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times if one only remembers to turn on the light. Albus Dumbledore, nasty, nay, Michael Scott. He was a good game. He was definitely a good Dumbledore, because he was not he was the best. He was a lot more. He was amazing. Yeah. The other one was very old and he spoke like this, and it was like it was like he was dying with every press clinging on to life. People have gone mad looking into the mirror of every said Harry, Harry, Oh my god, Well that is sad. He was amazed. Handle for Michael Gandon, damn Yeah. Lumos, lumos, Yeah, yeah, that's right, lumos for Michael. All right, Well that's depressing to start the show up thanks to Nasty but more lifting news is we went to Toronto. We went to Toronto to visit some fam and we got to see our niece. It's been like two years. It's been a long time. Been a long time since we were all, yeah, the same room. Yeah, I played some played some n sixty four Mario Kart sixty four man terrible. It was so bad Mario Kart. Yes, I didn't mind it. It was so bad. Maybe your controller was bad. Maybe you have a shitty controller. My stick was drooping a bit. I was using. It was fine. Mine was news was a controller. Yeah, yeah, you handed it to me. It was fine, and then it was very sensitive though, like I got I thought it was got one one of those races, and then I got like second, and then after that it was terrible, so I lost anything. Games. Yeah, it was to see we were playing on a split screen original and sixty four and not increased the resolution, the resolution or anything. Just original, like bombs couldn't have a bunch of blobs of ships and I look like whatever a bomb comes up, or like you don't see anything until it's like the fraction right before. I didn't notice that it was distance in the split screen is you can't even there's a bomb right in front of you, right in front of you, and we never noticed though. We used to play fucking we used to play that all the time. Though. Man, this brings me back to this brings me to why I don't play retro games. I'm not a retro game player. I don't care for retro games because the love and the all that stuff, the memory I have is locked away in my brain and it's good, you know, and then I go play them now and it's complete sucks us and ruins my memory of these games. Right. So that's why I don't go back and play old games. I will never do it. I don't do it. When I try to do it, I'm like, oh this is terrible, and I quit never doing it. Okay, well I'm not doing it, Okay, don't. I don't do it. I'm not an ad retro advocate. I'm not advocating for it. Like the like we were playing Double Dragon as well, and like, oh yeah it was although my controller was busted and we've played TMNT three, I wish my controller worked. We got pretty far, right, Yeah, that was pretty far. Yeah, mat was fighting that pig pig Man, the pig Man. I think the bosses just recycled pig. I don't think maybe, but we we were We were like four or five like levels in I don't know how many there are were maybe halfway through the game. What No, maybe I have no clue, Like they're not looking long back then all every game was a rogue. Like every game you die, you start right over from the fucking beginning. Yeah, we're very arcady. It was very arcade esque like that. There was no save, save saved, there's no room. There was only saved data on like Link Link game, the first Link game. Well that really hard one. Yeah, but the game type, the game style has to has to be that way though, because I'm gonna get they can't get you to start from the beginning of that. It's not like an arcade type of game or there's rounds and shit. It's like it's a story game with the whole world. You have to like adventure in a different levels and like you know what I mean, there was no saves. I don't think there was saves in the North. The only way you could you could like cheat ahead was like in in Mega Man there were passwords, you remember the passwords those were there save kind of feature and the password you put in would let you or would give you beating like x amount of bosses or whatever. It wasn't exactly the very play through, but that was sweet. Yeah. But like it's you can't like even in choosing a even choosing a file like in Zelda, you create a new file. You couldn't. They can't do that because you creating that is writing data to the game. So but you can't write data, then ANYS didn't write data, I don't think to the disc. Well that's what I'm talking about. Remember that old like the first Zelda game for any s, like the Link Adventures just started over from the beginning you when you died. Yeah, no fucking way. That's brutal. Let me see. Yeah that is for those of you listening who may be interested in playing any S double Dragon with a second player, you will be waiting an entire like, what what was the deal? That's fake? The fake two players fake it says it says two one or two players, and all it is is after the first guy ends up dying and getting a game, Yeah, it will just give it to you. Wow, Okay, it like you, yeah, and you passed the controller. It's so dumb. So you can save on Adventures of Link. You press pause, then you need to press up and a on controller two to get save screen. What that can't be real, it says if you're playing this on an actual nes dot com. No, this was like a cheat code to key dot com. Yeah, maybe a way to cheat a save cheat code to save weird stupid. Anyway, that is really dumb. So it does have the technology to be able to do it. I don't know anyway, how big, how big were those games? They got? Those massive cartridges in those games were like yeah, like fucking the audio that audio clip from Ninja Turtles was like some ship audio. I couldn't even understand what he said. And it's like, I mean, like I did, I couldn't even hear it. Not to mention, it took like fifteen minutes to get the fucking game working, and they would freeze halfway through you're playing setting the thing. And also my controller was broken. I couldn't press down or write down or right. It's literally the direction the whole game goes when you're playing Turtles. So I was playing a little too much of it. Maybe I was breaking the controller in half trying to press the fucking forward button for it to control it to press was also yellow from old use smoke. It wasn't just creaking and cracking. It's like someone was holding it was like someone was using it to hold their cigarette and then playing with the other controllers. It was mike back in the day and then night cigarette down on the one on the one controller, then use the other one. So it doesn't everyone used to smoke. Fuck all right, let's get into game time. What do you say? So game time? What are we playing? What are we playing? What are you saying? Hey? What are you saying? How what you're playing? I think I don't think I've I've played one game since last episode when I said I beat Balder's Gate, I beat Starfield, two big games. Are you fatiguing right now? Are you like triple A fatigue? Uh? No, No, I haven't started playing uh cyberpunk yet because I was playing eat Ur nights. Oh right, and I beat it? What? I beat it in eleven hours? You already beat it? Yeah? Eleven hours? How much was it? Thirty bucks? It was? Yeah? But we can talk about the cost po power later in the episode. Now it is a visual novel style RPG. I would say it's got like RPG style fighting when you have to go out and do missions. But then other than that, it's like kind of like dialogue and cutscenes and and character interactions where you have to like give a dialogue answer in order to level up your rapport with the character, with your relationship okay, and you have to kind of choose who you want to level up with and who you want to schmooze because there's only so many days that you can do things. In between the missions. There's like days and they're broken up to morning and night, and each action takes like morning, you can only do one action one in morning and one at night, and then the next day comes, and in between there's like will cut scenes and relationship building kind of events that happen and stuff like that. So you want to choose who you're going to level up with because that will determine your spec Basically, it's like the skill tree. Almost who you level up with will give you like higher attack power or something, or higher defense or something like that. So it basically like you can choose what girl or boy you want a romance in order to build your spec. It's pretty cool. So they facility, they deside your character build. That's interesting. Yeah, like you can't use certain skills unless you have this person ranked up to you know, level five relationship. But what if you want a certain thing, you won't don't want to date that person? Too bad? That's too bad. That is pretty good. I like the characters. The story is kind of you know, I don't know, it's it's one of those anime type stories, you know, the something created a bunch of mons stairs and turned people into monsters and you have to stop a big bad guy to fix everything. But there's a pair pretty big twist at the end that shocked me that I won't say, but it was a little bit sad. It was. It was pretty good. It was pretty good nice. I don't know if it's worth forty dollars, though I would say maybe twenty five. Maybe if it goes down to twenty five bucks, you can check it out. But rather than that, I had not been playing anything. I have heard quite a few times on it. I was like, I don't know, it just come out. It just came out on PS five. Where'd you get it? It's on PC and PS five and PS four. Wow. I picked up lies of p which is the Soul's like on game pass in the Pinocchio world, and I'm liking it. I'm liking it a lot. It's punishing, but it's not too punishing. I like breathe through the first two or three bosses I think it was. But now I've hit my wall and I am stuck at this one boss, the Fuoco, the furnace muppet or whatever the fuck. He's like this big furnace muppets. He's in this big he's in this big warehouse. And yeah, you just have to It's it's a fucking grinded I I'm like, I can't, I can get. I got so close. I got like a centimeter. And that's whenever your blood starts pumping and you get sweaty, right because you've spent the last seven minutes making those dodges or making those rolls, making those peries. You get to the last little centimeter and you're out of potions and you're out of like all your buffs and grenades, and you're just need to survive like thirty more seconds of land, a few more smart hits, you know, But then your brain gets ahold of You's like, just go for just go for that last couple of stabs. And then when you get greedy and you get impatient, he'll just fucking squatch you and you're done. You gotta start over again. I was like, fucking thing. Yeah, I tried to play the same That was the same thing in Secco when I played. Yeah, but I can't handle of the pressure. I buckle under the pressure. I cannot handle it, and I get so anxious and my blood starts. My heart is like and I'm like, oh, I might be able to get it. And then because I spent half an hour getting there, yeah, and then it's all just taken away from me. I can't keep doing this. I'm like shaking, I'm almost sick to my stomach, and i feel like super stressed out and panicked. I'm just like what am I doing? I like that feeling off. So I listened to that. I never played. I listened to the FMG boys. They had the FMG Boys Nick and Well Friday night game cast, and they had Dave from Tales of the Backlog on there, and they were talking about these games and they said that lies of p Well Dave, because I think he's got the most experienced in them all. Dave was like, Liza Pe is like a re skinned blood Born, pretty much like blood Born that was just released on the PlayStation console, but in like a Pinocchio world. I was like, man, I was like, I like this Pinocchio game, and the blood Born looks sick, but it's only thirty FPS. So I've been in the same boat as everyone else, just waiting for a sixty FPS remaster, but it apparently is never coming. So if I'm liking Liza P, if I can get through Liza P, I think I can. I'm probably gonna try out some blood Born, but Lords of the Fallen is coming in two weeks, and that game looks sick, and I'm going to jump in there. I haven't decided what I'm gonna get it for, or PS five or PC. I kind of want PS five because I want to play it on the old but I know that they've confirmed it's only seven twenty or something like. Yeah, I don't know. Tend p upscaled to four K on consoles because it's Unreal Engine five and we all know it's probably gonna run like shit fuck, So I'm kind of torn. If I get it on PC, then I have to sit up here and play it and it's kind of annoying. So I haven't really decided yet. But yeah, Liza p pretty good. I'm gonna get through this boss. I'm gonna get through this game. It's got its hooks in me. I'm gonna I'm gonna check through it. I did start Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty as well. When you start, did you have to go find the quest or something like? How do you start the deals? I think they send you a call or you get a call. Yeah, I just got a call from Money of the handlers, from one of the what do they call it, Daniel fixers, I guess fixers, the fixers. Yeah, and then he gets he puts you in touch with someone else, and then you go and try to get into Dogtown and then you get you get a call from this mystery lady and she says that she can you know, YadA, YadA, YadA. She smuggles you into Dogtown and you take it from there. You have to save the President. So it's a new new area borrow. It's on the map, so like it's on the map, but it's not labeled. It's it's not actually naked on the map free Phantom Liberty. I think you can go there or go around there, No man, because I looked at the map in Phantom Liberty and it's right there, Like how could how did we not? How are we not able to get there? There's just no labeling of it or anything on the on the pre to the pre Phantom Lire maybe, but this I would have seen if there was a dog Town. Yeah, there's no Dogtown. But I'm saying, is it's in what part of town is south South City, Pacifica, PACIFICA, Like half of Pacifica is Dogtown. It looks like on the new map you just can't get to it. You just can't get to it, or you can go around, but it's not Dogtown pre Phantom Liberty. I don't know, but this expansion is fucking sick. The writing is superb, Like you take this and you put it against Starfield. It's like these guys know how to write a story, like right, you know what I mean? Versus the Starfield when we're you just like banged it through. This one is like, oh what happens next? Oh this is so good? Like excellent. It's like playing a movie. The playing a movie. It's like the acting, the visually, the visuals, the stories. So cyberpunkus okay, so it's the same as yeah, oh yeah, Mike. I didn't have much high hopes for Starfield too much in that regard though. I didn't have not high hopes. I just didn't have high expected I didn't have any expectations. I was just like, whatever it is, but it's like, well, any But that was the first bess the game I've ever beaten. Never I got to the never finished. Yeah, I got like pretty far in it. I never finished it because I didn't care. I didn't kill It was sweet though. The end the sky remain Quest was sweet, I believe in I couldn't stand. I could not stand. Yeah, either, But I'm just too busy doing fucking thieves, skill doing there's a lot of shit, you know, the Arcane University, I do. The fucking Brotherhood. The Dark Brotherhood was so good. And guys, I can report on my new graphics card, I can get over one hundred fps and Cyberpunk on ultra graphics. How do you think about that? Wow? Wow? Okay, resolution ray tracing, no ray tracing. Yeah, but the only thing I care about the ray tracing is in the photo mode, which I put, which they now have a tall goal. I think they had it before where you can use path tracing only in photomode. Yea, oh it's beautiful, so smart. These guys are smart, so smart. Wow much smart much smart, very good. Cool. But yeah, I'm gonna start playing it maybe tonight. Maybe I would love me. But remember that did a dipper my tools in beat Starfield? Yet. Well, here's here's the thing. Okay, let's let me talk about that. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Okay, you feeling about that. I don't know that I'm going to be able to beat Starfield as quick as I wanted to, because, like I said, well, how what level were you guys when you beat the main story? Do you remember thirty five? I don't know, okay, yeah somewhere that's I was that about fifty hours forty five fifty hours, okay, because I went to go do one of the missions and it was like, have to fly out into this one system and I looked at the level requirement or should the level, and I didn't know. I was like, well, do I just go do it. But I also have been finding that I've been getting my ass whooped a lot by kind of everything. It depends if there's like, you know, I flew into four Varoon ships in orbit somewhere randomly, and I got my ass handed to me like it could be my ship. I don't know, but I was like, I can't take these guys on, so I'm just gonna have to grab jump And then when you know, you get the higher level enemies like level thirty, and I've just been like, oh my god, I'm just like sinking clips into these guys, like are my weapons not doing enough damage? I'm spacking into them, Like what is the problem here? Maybe I'm not using the right weapon. But then I did find that the laser gun did a lot of damage against robots, which is really cool, So I found that I could kind of rely on that. But I don't know, I've just been finding I'm like, oh my god, like I'm working like men Max and your guns and ship bro, like I'm trying. Yeah, I got I'm just find a new one that says green like, but you also have to do the math kind of in your head on the fire rate versus the damage because some are s. You just look at it says versus shields. Put the highest one versus shields. So do that just got the ship weapons or people weapons? No, I was talking mostly combat weapons. Oyeah guns, combat weapons. Sure, I thought we're still on the ship thing. No, those, I'm not even I'm not even a bother. I just the other night, I was like me to build a ship, and I sat there and I was like, I'm not fucking doing this because I know how long I will take to build the ship. I'm like, I'm like flipping through like one option of the time. I would I spend like an hour doing my big one. And I was just listening to like stuff in the background. I wasn't actually just sitting there. Yeah, I can't do it, man, because when I log in, I want to play the stories to further the game. And then I sit there and I start building a ship. I'm no, no, I'm not doing this because when I build it, I just put like the massive fucking rocket or was it the missiles. So I just when I come up against ships and like missile takes like half their shield, missile agan half and then I just rail gun done. Next, Yeah, I do the same fucking thing. I just like the idea of buying a ship because it's already all been done for me. So but anyway, Yeah, so I maybe I'll just go straight for the main thing. But then I thought maybe I was getting a little ahead of myself. I don't know, depending on how much I find I've been struggling, Like I don't want to be like, oh my god, I can't fight these fucking You're almost done, because if you can get to that system, it's only like a hand maybe a handful of quests in that system, and then you're done. I think I'm pretty sure one that's like pretty far off. I remember I couldn't even get there because I didn't have the right what's it called furnace? What is it? You can get there, just you have to hop a bunch of plans. Yeah, like your machine has to have the range to get to twenty light years or something. Oh yeah, it was nineteen, I think, And I was like, hmm, I don't have that. So you have nineteen I have to go dump a bunch of money into my I don't know what I have actually, Yeah, so maybe I'll have to get a new ship verst. Then I was. I started doing the Free Star collected the Free Star Rangers quest line because I was like, oh, I hear it's good. I mean, I've I started the Van Guard, but I'll take a break from that. And you get a ship from the Free Star Rangers quest line apparently, or so. I was like, I just got that. I'd like to try that, but I don't know how far along it did you get? The Man quest lines not as good as the Did you do the Mantis quest line? Daniel? Oh, yeah, the Mantis keep getting ship. That's pretty good ship. That's a really good ship. Yeah, yeah, the Man Do you get a sweet suit and helmet? Where do you meet? Where do you start? Though? Oh, I think you have probably half of it. You have to pick up some item. I think maybe I could already have it. I don't know I had it randomly. I don't know how I got it. Oh yeah. I was like, might be just some one of the things you hear, you know, but you oh, yeah, that's here in a town, and it's like, oh I heard, yeah, I don't know. It's called for the mains. Uh, And I'll just see what happens. I guess, all right, that's it. That's all I've been playing. It's just Starfield because I want to play it so that I can start up Cyberpunk. The thing is, I'm okay not starting Cyberpunk until I've decided if I want to start a new character and and and get to know the whole three build again and just kind of get I did not. No, I'm not doing that. I kept my V because I'm very emotionally attached to my V. I kind of am too. Yeah, it's trick. She's staying. She's staying because she's so hot. I couldn't I couldn't let her go, you know, sea all right? Is that it for both of us? For all three of us of us? I think it's done. Okay, Well, we got some gaming news to talk about. Let's do that Gaming news. Welcome to Gaming News. Sony CEO, Jim Jack, Ryan, Jimmy John. He's definitely not a Jack Ryan Jack, Jim Ryan, Jimmy Jack. He's gonna step down now, he's gonna step down. He just couldn't handle it anymore. I don't want I wonder why was it the big Sony hack that happened and he was like candle losing the activation. Oh that too. Yeah, oh yeah, and then his password was so bad on his email that he was the entry point for the big hack. I bet. And they're like, listen, you old fart. Oh imagine you're fucking password can't be Sony one two three, you think and imagine I wouldn't put it past that old bastard. Sony hack wasn't that big deal. I'll still hacked, yeah, but it's not still compromised, Still still a breach, that a ransom a ransom hack thingy what I'm guessing it's probably one zone, one zone of the network they got into, you know that's kind of segregated because they have proper zoning. Yeah, it wasn't all two million users or whatever. They said. They only got like six thousand files, which is well, six thousand files with it doesn't seem like a lot with one hundred thousand passwords in them. Passwords? Ye know what was in those files? It could have been lists of things in those but they said what it was. It didn't really seem very okay, you know, very damning. I don't know everybody who's listening to this, please put on multi factor authentication on your fucking accounts. Please it doesn't mean anything if you click on an attachment in spam, Yeah, that's true. Don't be stupid and put in two on your accounts. Yep. And like even like the higher up people, even the higher up CEOs, like you have to have the Authenticator app. You can't do the text. If you're a high end CEO guy and people are targeting you, they can get that code sent to your SMS. Like there'll be no issue with that. With a hacker like actually going after you, they can get that targeted. Yeah, but like with the authenticator app, they'd have to like clone your phone and ship and even then, so like just use the authenticator app, put some codes on your accounts to protect yourselves, okay, because it is annoying when you have to go and change all your bucket bastards. That happened to me, Okay, that's happening. I thought it happened to me. I got an email, guys from a guy named John Blue or something, and he said that he hacked my account. Said, oh yes, he said he hacked my account and he had he had pictures of me using my device pleasuring myself, and it was like he didn't include any of these pictures. I'm like, of course, how how did you do that? Hacker? And you must be a genius obviously, And then it's like I know, and it says I know, and it I know your password, and it says like your email address, which is obviously your email address that he already knows. But then he puts in a password that maybe he got somewhere, which is that I'm guessing from it was he showed me the password. It was a very old password. I haven't used it in ten years, fifteen years. Yeah, so I'm like, I'm like, that's weird, mister hacker. Where did you get that? I wonder? And and I was thinking it's probably just from an old an old website, an old website, or an app that was hacked. Then they have the user database, the passwords to have the email addresses. So he sends everyone an email and he'll say, look, I have your password. And most people use the same password for everything forever ever, so it's likely the same fucking password that you use for your email. So they can get into your email and then from there they can get into everything whatever you use your email for. Yeah, well I forgot my password. Emailing my password yeah, because how they get into if you use Google to save your passwords, you're fucked. Oh yeah, So I learned that the hard way. Thankfully. It wasn't anything important. It was like old shitty apps that I've hadn't used in a while. So it was the same, the same old password I had for like I think it was like twenty old, like weight loss apps and shit like that. Like I didn't give a shit about that. I never changed the password for. But like going through and checking every single account I stopped using, I had to go through all my accounts and make sure that the password was different. And I was like, okay, that one's a final, but I'll change the passord anyway. So I had quite a few old apps and websites that had personal information on there. Oh yeah, you know that had that old password. I was like, God, this is annoying, and I don't know what it's from. Like I went through my I for this, my password manager for ones that I actually use, and there was only three two or three things listed that had that password, and I hadn't used them in a long time, but I just changed them. But I'm like, what else could it be? It wasn't one of those guys that that was hacked. It's probably some some other thing for an app or something that I don't use anymore. So it's just like there's no way for me of knowing. All you could do is go change whatever account had that, Like what accounts still have that password? But if whatever? If? Yeah, but if you don't remember, like you don't remember what the fuck he did. But like anyway, don't use the same password folks, and don't save your passwords in Google, because if someone gets at access to your Gmail, they get axed, they can just show all passwords to all the accounts that you have saved. I mean, I use two factor authentication for fucking everything. So man, well I don't want to get into what I do on here because people could target hack me. True, I'll cut that out. Yeah, I post your email on the street and a picture of you pleasuring yourself. Fuck. It was so stupid, and I was like, and he said, he said in two days, he was if I didn't get back to him with eighteen hundred dollars in bitcoin, he would he would send it to all my contact list. Eighteen hundred bitcoins, eighteen hundred dollars point zero two of a bitcoin. I don't know, but yeah, and I was just like, I live two days and I looked and it was like from two weeks ago. I was like, oh, your life has ended now. I was just like this guy, man, these fucking scammers. So funny. Back in the day when we used to do a lot of computer repair, we'd have people coming in and they're their screen would be frozen, like they'd have a virus or whatever, and they'd have a webcam picture of them, like we know your pastor, and it's like takes the webcam picture and he's just like like stupid fucking pictures of them. It is like it's probably a browser exploit to drive by yea from browsing. So yeah, yep, yep. So we got Jim Ryan out. That was the whole point of that conversation. Yeah, I'm hoping that they just put someone in there that actually plays video games and that has held the fucking PlayStation controller, you know, someone who gives a shit like Phil Spencer, you know, I guess, but we just gotta remember, are they in the same span of position though, Yeah, it's Phil Spencer in this guy. Yeah, I feel like this guy's just way more of like a business man. Yeah, an old business because Phil Spencer wears cool clothes and a hack. Yeah that is cool. He's a game cool. He's cool dude. He's a gamer. He's a cool dude. All right. Well, speaking of Phil Spencer and Microsoft, those leaked emails, Microsoft had leaked emails. Somebody liked them and it's it was from two years ago, I think or three years ago. Yeah, and in the email it mentioned Phil Spencer wanting to buy a Nintendo. They already tried to do that and they got laughed out of the Nintendo headquarters. That's what they Yeah, a long time ago, Like yeah, yeah. I mean like I think whenever they first started Xbox, I think they walked into Nintendo like we'll buy you started xind was like fuck off, Okay, well buy him out boys. I mean, it would absolutely never happen. But hypothetically, I think that that would be so sick, like think about it. Why I'm hearing a lot of people say like, oh, well Nintendo wouldn't be the same anymore, you know, yeah, like yeah, they'd yeah, yeah, they'd be better. Yeah, they'd have Well I don't think Microsoft would touch them in any way that would change what they do exactly exactly, Like they know what they've done to get where they are. They know what Nintendo is, like, they know that they have a recipe for their games and stuff. Why the hell would they go in there and like fuck that up and change everything. I feel like that even if they did, that's not what would happen at all. Introducing it's that the name of that that game, Gears of Warrio, Gears of Warrio. Yeah, but yeah, I mean I think it would just be sweet, like Nintendo games on real actual hardware. But remember, how would that be a bad thing? Remember whenever they start gobbling all these people. Okay, then if hypothetically, if they brought all these people into the one umbrella, they can do whatever the fuck they want. They can charge you whatever they want. There's no more competition, there's nowhere else to go play these games Microsoft, right, and they'll just ram that into you. They would probably well, there, they would increase the price of game Pass would be like forty dollars a month. They're a Nintendo games may go on sale a little bit more often if Xbox that's true, That's that's probably true. Be like, look, let's have you thought about doing a sale Nintendo. No, No, there's no honor in that sale. No, but like, imagine, imagine playing like the new Zelda or Pokemon game with vastly improved just visuals, and it would be sweet. Maybe I could actually finish a Pokemon game on that was the case, Yeah, on PC up to date like development technologies. I mean, now he could say, I'm certainly that the quality of the games would just not be the same because they're Nintendo's developing for one piece of hardware. That's it, that's what they know. They that's their bread and butter. Like you think they're going to develop for like Xbox PlayStation, not PlayStation, Xbox Windows, you know what I mean, Xbox Windows, Xbox Series, X series A true. I mean, they can't be worse. It can't be worse. I don't you know what. I don't think they did that. They would just put that switch online bullshit on your Xbox and you'd find another thing. The fucking online play would be way better. Yes, please, oh yeah, oh my god, just that alone, just that alone, sendo games on game Pass. Yes, the Pokemon issue might not improve though, because that's like that's just them rushing. They rush every single game because they have to hit a game every freaking year or whatever. But yeah, I would say it would be cool. I'm gonna say I would be okay with it. I approve it would never happen ever ever, but I think it would be cool. I want to play like a Mario in sixty fps on Aye in HD four K would be nice. Or Zelda like that Zelda on five thing. Remember that ship? Yeah, that guy. I keep working on that thing. Holy shit. Yeah, it looks unbelievable right now though, tracing and ship. Another news, FSR three is to be released tomorrow, September twenty nine, tomorrow PC. That's pretty cool. Yes, Can I use it too well eventually? Yes? Oh, but you wouldn't want to you can? You have d LSS three point five now on old RTX cards, twenty series, thirty series, and forty series. They decide to do that right when I sold my thirty eighty. But it's only gonna be released in the first two games tomorrow, and I no one knows what those are. I'm hoping cyberpunk would be fucking sweet, just to get a little bit of boost and performance there with all the ragel I might I might actually be able to turn out Cyberpunk, not like they adopt everything. Oh no, it will have it eventually, Like it's Cyberpunk. Is in the first like ten games that will have SR three, but only two games will have it tomorrow and then they'll come along with Mare. I'm hoping it's Cyberpunk because I would really like to turn on ray tracing. That'd be cool, even though I'm not a fan, but I am a fan because I need ray tracing in Cyberpunk. I don't care for ray tracing anywhere else. I just have to have it in Cyberpunk. Maybe I'll turn it off and I'll just play like without d LSS, because I played last time with it on. I don't wait DLSS. I don't love. I feel like it's a big deal, big deal for Cyberpunk to have ray tracing on. Yeah, and you're only using ray tracy would if you have the DLSS turn on or you're just not having a good time. I know, but I'm saying I could turn ray tracing off. Oh and the new drivers for the RTX cards you get the new ray reconstruction. Yes, I tried turning one of those fucking things on in mine and I was running at sixteen frames per second. I tried putting path tracing on. Oh yeah, and with DLSS on I was getting sixteen for a second. But apparently this ray reconstruction even on thirty the thirty series with the DLSS three point five, it's something to behold. Apparently cool. Well, I'm gonna check it out, I guess. And that's why you gotta love cyberpunk. Just pushing the envelope. Every every month, there's something new that they're pushing, you know, so cool. I love tech, but not as foch as you. You see man? All right, well, always and forever. Should we take an ad break? I think we have an ad yeah. From our sponsors, Hello everyone, we are thrilled to announce an exciting new partnership with vr rock dot com. 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We extend our sincere gratitude to varrock dot com for supporting us and making our VR experiences safer and more enjoyable. So don't miss out, grab your vr rock lenses and get ready for an unforgettable gaming journey. Okay, wow, that was a lovely little ad for you. And today we're going to discuss our today's topic. We're on today's topic now. We gotta we gotta quote. We got quite a quote here. This is recently in the news. This past weekend, Capcom president hotu Hito Sujimoto asserted that video game prices are too low, pointing to the massive increase in development costs and how game prices haven't risen at the same rate. That's something to think about, certainly. He suggested that increasing the price of games would be a healthy option for the industry. Development costs are about one hundred times higher than during the Famicom era, he said, but software prices have not gone up that much depends on the game now. Capcom is one of the few publishers that substained from raising prices. Thus far, has continued to sell games like Street Fighters six at sixty dollars US instead of seventy dollars US. They haven't went to that ninety dollars Canadian rate hit yet, So maybe that's what he's talking about, you know, seventy US. You know what I mean. You think he was just talking about ten dollars a game. Yeah, I'm he could have been just talking about bringing Capcom games up to where let's say, I don't know, Squares brought up their games. I think he was talking more than that, Okay, just in general, because they're they're the only company that's again, I think he was talking about the just the overall market. Yeah, okay, also they're just not charging enough. Also, Fortnite v Bucks are going up in price as of October seventh, fuck so their skins. Their skins will be even more overpriced. And I think this will probably put them into the Overwatch two skin price range, which is fucking ludicrous. Yeah, ludicrous, like thirty dollars for I spent twelve dollars on my eight my terminator. Yeah, like that's bucks. Sure, right, I've still got that was on heavily discounted on v bucks though it was only like a thousand v bucks or something, which nothing is. It's always fifteen hundred or like eighteen hundred, so that costs well the big Yeah. Yeah, so you have to buy twenty five dollars v buck package just to buy a skin, which is crazy. Now it's going to be more. It's probably like forty bucks to buy like enough vbucks to get a premium skin, you know what I mean. That's horrible, And then you'll have vbucks left over. But I like, to get enough v bucks, you'll have to probably spend so much money just to get that. They don't need to increase the price of their game because it's free. They need to increase the price or everything in the game, right, so they agree everything's too cheap. Yeah, you got some talking point I've got I've got so many talking points. I've got talking points. We can talk about inflation first. Well, obviously it plays a factor. I've got a massive thing about inflation. I went through and I did all the numbers. I did numbers. Two, I was doing numbers. I don't think that I was doing numbers. I already did the numbers for you. I went the numbers two. I went from nineteen eighty five to twenty thirteen. Each console cost at launch, what it would cost today, average game cost, and the average game cost today. So we'll paint a picture first, I suppose. So we'll start in nineteen eighty five with the Nintendo Entertainment System. I've done all the prices in USD and converted them to Canadian for that year, and I've listed the exchange rate for that year. Yeah, so in nineteen eighty five, the exchange rate from US to Canadian was a dollar forty fucking brutal shit. So the NES at launch in nineteen eighty five was one hundred and eighty USD, which was two hundred fifty two Canadian in nineteen eighty five, I used those really pricey so yes, I used a inflation calculator, right, okay, So one hundred and eighty US D nineteen eighty five and twenty twenty three dollars is five hundred and thirteen dollars US. Wow, which is equal to six hundred and ninety two dollars Canadian more expensive than this series X is exactly fucking insane. The average game cost was forty five US sixty three Canadian nineteen eighty five, which is equal to one hundred and twenty eight USD or one hundred and seventy two Canadian dollars today for a game for a game? Oh my god? What forty five dollars? Okay, then they got cheaper well that the exchange rate was dollar forty as well? Do we get shafted on like GST in Ontario? We get shafted It's crazy, So you might as well just buy them in American dollars, like we could get whoever down there to buy us our games and we smuggle them over right, they're smuggling video game? What is this contraband? Gotta scanning your contraband scanning your ship if you use PayPal, you can pay the choice to pay in US dollars. Yeah, and I get four percent back on international purchases. See, that'd be a good way to kind of circumvent that. Okay anyway, Superintendo nineteen ninety exchange rate dollar fifteen. It's fantastic that year. Wow, fantastic that year. Cost at launch was two hundred US two hundred and thirty Canadian dollars. Today's money is four hundred and seventy US six hundred and thirty dollars Canadian average game costs, though jumped by like fifteen dollars, So it's at sixty US in nineteen ninety and then one hundred and forty US today. Hang on would be the price is the s NES? Was the s NES cheaper than the NES? Then? I don't remember who the NES price was. The NES was on eight oh right, okay, the Supernintendo was two hundred okay now NUM sixty dollars in nineteen ninety sixty US. But I think there were cheaper games, like there were budget games that were kind of cheaper. I think the average this is the average game, No, this is the average game cost them? Yeah some challenge, Yeah, exactly. Shit like that. Okay, So then sixty let's say, fifty dollars in nineteen ninety average for the math. Wow, the inflation caculator coagulator says, that equates to one hundred and seventeen dollars for fifty dollars, which is obviously way more than we're playing. You're saying like hundred twenty whatever it is for for sixty US back then. Yeah, like that's fucking expense. That's crazy, Like if you're paying like one hundred and twenty dollars. So the Sony Places nineteen ninety five, this was fucking expensive, Okay, nineteen ninety five, the exchanger, it was again the dollars forty terrible, terrible costs at launched three hundred US nineteen ninety five. Today's money six hundred and five US in Canadian dollars today, eight hundred and forty seven dollars Canadian back then, Oh my god. Yeah, fifty dollars average for a game, fifty US dollars, which would be about one hundred US nowadays. Again, the games didn't really even change. Yeah, and it's kind of like they've gone out. They're like covering ten dollars, they're hovering backs nineteen ninety five, there's still sixty US, it's still the same price, but everything else has gone up. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, so it's like they're still making these crazy games. Do you remember this though? This is what really kind of blew my mind. And Nintendo sixty four launched in ninety six, a year after the PlayStation, and it launched only at two hundred US, one hundred US cheaper than the PlayStation. I think I do remember that. That's that's insane. So yeah, they came down pretty quick though, at from what I remember and the games. Apparently the average cost in nineteen ninety six four and sixty four game was fifty US dollars, which was about sixty five Canadian I remember that, yeah, which was one hundred and thirty two Canadian dollars now now money. I remember somewhere super expensive though, oh yeah, seventy nine yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, like the big ones like Banjo, Kazooi and Zelda and yeah, all that kind of they were expensive. That's crazy how much cheaper the console was. So that's when you can start seeing Nintendo cutting the price of their consoles to really get into the homes of the consumers right now. Imagine being apparent and your kid is begging you to buy all these fucking games all the time, and you kid has no idea just how expensive that is, Like, could you because imagine spending what was it, one hundred fucking twenty dollars on a game? Eight fifty dollars and you're just like, what, I'm not buying you that? But that's crazy. I have to understand. Now this gets into what I kind of was writing down here. I'm gonna say from a business standpoint, if you look at the economics, yes, I'm saying less less now than we ever were relatively. I have that down yet. So news games are seventy dollars. Now, let's say, is it sixty or seventy sixty US? That's what they cost? No, they cost seventy US now games Capcom is the only one still at sixty right, games are seventy dollars US. Well, yeah, well we're based on Capcom. Let's let's keep it there. Okay, Well I did mine on seventy seventy dollars. Seventy dollars and seventy dollars is ninety five dollars Canadian and we only pay eighty nine. So we're actually getting a little discount there. We're getting five dollars off. We're getting a fucking steal of a deal. Americans should be buying it in Canada with Canadian dollars, then they get a discount. So yeah, So what I did was, we're talking about nineteen ninety. The I was going to mention the annual household income. Okay, let's say you buy ten games in a year in nineteen ninety. Let's just say for the math, so that's five hundred dollars US they cost you in nineteen ninety, and you buy ten games a year. Now they're costing you seventy dollars each. Seven hundred dollars a year for ten games, but six hundred dollars in Capcom games, right if you only buy Capcom give us Okay, So what percentage of the average annual income then and now spent on these ten games? So in nineteen ninety, the average US salary was nineteen thousand, six hundred twenty one dollars. Okay, what would that be hourly? I don't know, not much, ten bucks nine something at four hours a week. And then okay, So let's say five hundred dollars is two point five percent of that. So you're spending two point five percent of your income on ten games every year. At five hundred dollars in twenty twenty three, the average US salary is fifty nine thousand, four hundred and twenty eight seven hundred dollars for ten games is only one point two percent of that average salary. So you're paying a full percentage point three less for games weird like per year. If you're doing that like, it's less's less portion of your salary of the average salary. Story of the average salary I did it on Based on nineteen ninety five stats, the average Canadian hourly wage in twenty twenty three is thirty two dollars an hour, which is crazy ninety five no. In two thousand and so, According to indeed dot SA job recruitment site, the average Canadian hourly wage is thirty two dollars an hour in twenty twenty three. According to the American Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average American hourly wage is thirty three dollars an hour in twenty twenty three. That's crazy, that's like forty four dollars an hour Canadian. Now, the average Canadian hourly wage in nineteen ninety five was twenty dollars an hour. So, to buy a video game in nineteen ninety five, and you were like an adult buying video games and you were getting an average of twenty dollars an hour, to buy a video game at the average hourly wage in nineteen ninety five would take you three point five hours of working to buy one video game. Okay, okay, that's a sweet deal. To buy a video game now at the average hourly wage of thirty two dollars an hour would take you two point eight hours of work to buy you of one video game. Yeah. So we're basically doing the same fucking yeah, we did it just different. Now take me in two thousand and one to two thousand and three, when I was working at Tim Horton's for six dollars and forty nine cents an hour. Okay, I was not an adult. I was a shit kid making shit money. Yeah. The average game price in two thousand and one was seventy eight dollars. Oh my god, I would have had to work twelve hours Tim Horton's purchased one video game as a seventeen year old. That's insane. Just do a shift, Just do a twelve hour, twelve hour shift for a game, for one game game. But then you have no other money. Yeah, zero money. That's crazy. Yeah, but it's a bit deceiving because nowadays we know there's so much more ye're paying for. You're paying for more bills, you're paying for Internet TV streaming subscriptions, you know, your Uber eats and all this bullshit. You're paying for so much more crap that just didn't exist back then. Whild Yes, we're playing one point two percent of our salary average per year, less than than back then on video games. But like everything else is just ballooned, like everything. Skate sharpening is twelve dollars. Used to be break it was five dollars, I don't know, ten years ago. Unbelievable. It's fucking crazy anyway, Yeah, no wonder, I don't shover my skates anymore. I haven't sharped my skates in so fucking long. I had statistics here to back up my claims. According to a macro trends dot net in nineteen ninety, the average consumer spending per capita per year was twenty five thousand dollars in current currency, just like on shit, like living, shit, like everything, yeah, everything. Average per capita consumer spending it was ten thousand dollars back then. Today in twenty twenty three, the average, like per capita is forty two thousand dollars, which is almost double. So it's like like back then it was about seventeen thousand. Yeah, like seventeen thousand, and back then what they were doing is ten thousand. So you're just spending way more. Everyone is spending more because there's more ship to fucking spend. Facebook tricking you into buying shit, Instagram tricking your wives into buying things. Oh yeah, your wives. You just have access to more stuff. You just have access to more stuff. So, I mean, games aren't cheap, but compared to back then, they are, they are. This is what Capgong is just thinking about it. I think, you know, it's just it costs way less back then to make the games, by one hundred times, he said. But they're still selling them for less than they were back then adjusted, you know what I mean, which is nuts. That's crazy. So check this out. According to Wikipedia, Super Mario Rose three, which was normal Nintendo m that came out in ninety ninety ninety one, ninety one, nine ninety one, and the game's total development cost, marketing budget all that twenty five point eight million in nineteen ninety one. Wow, which is equal to fifty six million dollars today. That's a lot. That's a lot. I think that was one of the most expensive, like Nintendo games back then. So maybe they didn't cost less. Maybe this guy's trying to jerk or jerk us around. Wikipedia says Final Fantasy ten costs thirty two million in two thousand and one, which is about fifty five million today. Wow. So the game's cost today. So we'll say that Final Fantasy ten is a triple A game. Right, So triple A game back then cost fifty five million dollars in today's money. So triple A games now are costing five to seven times the amount they did back then. Oh my god, does that mean we as consumers need to pay five times the game amount? Fuck? No, imagine paying because on a new game. Imagine that. No, obviously, But it's not like I would not game anymore. Yeah, exactly right, I can't. Nathaniel would be so fucked he'd be completely bankrupt. We're also forgetting about another currency. Okay, we were may not be paying as much now for games as they did way back, you know, in the nineties, but we're paying more in time because we're fucking spending a lot of time playing these games now, because there are hours and hours and hours long, like Red Dead one hundred twenty hours or some shit it was, you know. So, so there's that other time investment where you're paying for it. They're an excellent, excellent point. Excellent point. Yeah, Now let's talk about cost per hour. Then that's my next. Okay, that's a lot of people don't like a lot of people don't like to measure a game in cost per hour though. Okay, well you cost your time as well. Time is fucking currency. Like data said, of course, time is money, friend, Time is money, friend, you know, as a successful photo Biden, sleepy Joe. Okay, as a successful headshot photographer, time is money. Yeah, when I'm playing sixty hours of a video game, I could spend half of those hours marketing my business and making more money, right, getting people in the door, making more right. Sure, so now what is it worth to you? Then? What is a seventy dollars game worth to you in hours of entertainment and hours of taking you away from doing other things. How many hours do you want out of it for you to get your money's worth? Okay, So I've thought about this a long time ago, and what I said, infinite infinite. Yeah. So I came to a conclusion a long time ago that if I spend a dollar an hour, I'm happy. So if I buy a game for yeah, nine, Well, it wasn't ninety dollars back then when I came up a dollar an hour. When I came up with this, the games were like sixty seventy bucks. I mean, I feel that that's very ambitious at the hour an hour? Yeah yeah, imagine like ninety dollars. I must play this game for ninety hours or I'm not getting my Yeah, okay, so let's say fifty hours. Let's say fifty hours. Just for the math. Okay, that's a dollar. Well at seventy dollars, At seventy dollars USD fifty fifty hours, that's a dollar forty an hour, about forty an hour. Yeah, okay, that's pretty good. Now you go play pool at the pool hall, you're paying twelve dollars an hour, ye, to play a game, yep, and you've got to buy beer, Yeah, lots of beer. You can still play with friends. You don't need to go to a pool hall to do that. You got to play play online, play anywhere. M what's it cost to go to a movie? Yeah, that's another thing. Fifteen bucks? Now have fifteen bucks for three hours though they're all three hours long. Now, all these fucking movies. Okay, let's say five two uh seven dollars per hour. Okay, that's way more than a fifty hour video game at seventy. But when you buy a movie on UHD blue rate, it's fucking forty dollars and you're getting an hour's or two three hours worth or and a half to three hours. But would you would watch it more times than once? Yeah? Maybe maybe a couple of times. Okay, we'll give it that. Okay. I still always air on the give me more side in terms of how much hours I want to put in a video game, even though I kind of suck at beating games for that reason, like maybe the other half of me wants shorter games so I can just fucking beat him. But but I still if I'm paying you know, eighty plus dollars give me more, because then I can just dip in whenever I want, do whatever I want, for as long as I want. But then you have four other eighty hour games. Yeah, yeah, then maybe it's a double edged sword either way. I see. I think we I think we overestimate, like how much we're paying per hour when you when you do that, Like even let's say you only get twenty five hours in a seventy dollars game. That's two dollars and eighty cents per hour. Pretty good. But what if you spend ninety dollars and only play the game for ten hours and you can't finish it and don't want to play it anymore? Then that's about I have that here. Let's say ten hours minimum, ten hours of a seventy dollars game or ninety dollar game. That's seven or nine bucks an hour. It's still cheaper than going to play pool ten different times now and much less annoying. No driving, no buying ten dollars beers. You can still be social on video games, true, true, nothing against billiards, you know. Yeah, if you're going out to do something, I'm just turning. In terms of entertainment, dollars per hour billiards in VR. I could play billiards with Little Jacob in GTA four for that price. Now, you gotta remember nowadays we have to pay what one hundred, nine hundred and sixty dollars a year to be able to play multi player games online on top of spending the ninety dollars for the game. Some free to play games don't have that apex. You don't need to have the subscription. Fortnite All Batter Royals, I believe, Yeah, right, I don't know how they're getting. What slice of cake is Sony or Microsoft getting from that that I don't understand, you know what I mean? So like, I don't know why are these guys not having to the need of the subscription to play their online game versus I don't know whatever other game. Yeah, you know, I don't remember. I don't remember what the reasoning was, but I was I was for it. I was all for it, right, But that's another thing we've got it. There's the subscription that we everyone's paying. Now you're either you've got some kind of game pass or you've got some kind of PS plus, which is costing you almost one hundred and fifty dollars a year. Let's say tack that on to every one hundred oh for both No wall, no, not unless we do the little trick or whatever right that we have done for games paying monthly. Yeah right, And like when the Capcom guy says prices need to go up, well, a lot of people are buying battle passes, which are fucking fifteen dollars a month. A lot of people are buying these subscriptions to be able to play their games online, which is another X amount. So like adding compounding that on top of a ninety dollars game, you're spending one hundred plus dollars on a game eventually. Yeah, in the end, except for Excel Primal, like they charged you sixty dollars for a free to play game, essentially like that, when I played that game, it was a free to play game. I would not spend I would never ever spend sixty or seven. There was a battle passage, and there was a battle passage. And that's what my next thing was, is like, now you're buying a game, but you're not getting the full game still, so then to get their extra money. They're not tricking you, but they're enticing you. To get that battle pass for an extra. That's just pure profit, like doing that shit like printing money which brings me coins. Virtual currency is literally printing money. They just like it's nothing and that you give them money for it. That's crazy. Yeah, which makes me to another thing. Now there's soup. There's all this talk that Xbox is gonna go pure digital the next generation same a place they should no more physical. Okay, you know how much money they're gonna save just by not by taking away that distribution of physical copy and just downloading everything Like that's a huge chunk of change. And then they're going to increase the prices of games even more after that, right, so they're going to save money on the distribution profits and then pump it up a little bit more so that you're just downloading your digital games and that doesn't cost them anything. For you to download that game doesn't cost them anything, right, Well, you know infrastructure maintenance, just downloading copies. Yeah, it's just you're just copying the files, You're not. Well, I hope that they make it faster if they do that, because it's slow as hell. Yeah, so it's might cost them something that cost them something they would have to upgrade something because they're horrible. Now Nintendo starting to raise their prices ten dollars to seven to us started with tears of the Kingdom, like what what are they giving us more for it? Right? Like it's still on the switch hardware and why Nintendo? Yeah, like why are they doing it? Just because the games cost that much to make? Yeah, but they're making so much money on this shit, old fucking hardware. M remember when I picked up Got a War and I looked at the receipt Got a War two. I looked at the street and I'm over one hundred dollars. I was like, oh, it is one hundred and three dollars. It's come to this right that once it breaks? It rocked me. Yeah, that rocked me a bit. And then I remember buying Starfield on Steam for one hundred and forty dollars to get the early access, and I was like, fuck this, I returned it. I bought my graphics card which came with Starfield, so I got like one hundred and forty dollars off my graphics card kind of thing. Right, Yes, So I got that for I'm glad I got that. It's on game Pass. That's also true. Now with that being said, with the whole early access thing, that's another way they are raising prices without actually raising prices, is offering these early access digital deluxes and people are like, oh, I don't want to foam. I'm gonna buy this at one hundred and twenty dollars to get in early so I can get on Twitch or I can do whatever. That's raising the beam of prices or that's raising the prices of games in a certain way, and that because that's giving you choice. It's giving you the choice to pay more money to get in early. I don't mind that. I don't mind that. But like whenever, they're just being if they were to get rid of the early access buy ins and be like, okay, all games are one hundred and twenty dollars now, like that is gonna suck. It's not gonna happen, but that would suck. So welcome to the nineties, so I think. And that's also if your games are good where people want to people don't want to pomo over your game, right, they're gonna pay that money and you're gonna raise your prices by doing that kind of thing. That's cool. I don't mind that whatever, don't mind that. All right, Let's why don't we talk Why don't we talk about earnings? And do you think do you think they're making more now profit than they are back then? Like per year? Let's look, let's look, they're like they're obviously making a ship ton more profit. Let's look, I just google earnings in nineteen ninety okay, micro transactions, battle thing, extra shiit just all the shi. During fiscal nineteen eighty nine, Nintendo reported earnings of two hundred and seventeen million. Okay, now it's a billions. What about now like twenty twenty two eight point four billion? Yeah, what are they complaining about? Like fucking shut up? Eight point four billion? Okay? What about Capcom? Like you can't sit there and tell me, even with conversion and inflation that like it's not substantially more you're making today? Maybe Capcom because they were like a household name street fighter, you know, all that kind of shit on your snapday. Okay, Well, let's just look up CAPCOMs today. Yeah, looking up today at point seven six billion, so seven hundred and sixty million revenue profit. Yeah, yeah, seven hundred and sixty million Capcom made in twenty twenty two, it's still not that not that much, not that much. Cap Com not making a lot, but like what, they just keep making Resident Evil games. Right, I'm sorry for the Resident Evil people out there. I don't play it. I'm probably I've I've played the Village on VR. He tried, he tried, but like I don't know, like you gotta start. And they tried something new with Extra Primal, right, but again it was more of a free to play game that's a battle pass game to make your money. I've got a conclusion blurb that I'll read when we're done yapping. But like overall, yeah, Capcom they can raise their prices to the now general average of seventy US dollars and I don't think their fans are going to bat an eye. But if they raise it, if he's talking about raising it to like one hundred dollars, you know as a new one hundred dollars, yeah, no fucking They need to step up their portfolio and start making some games. They need to start like adapting and following following trends because like what remake. Now, a lot of Capcom fans are fans are saying Capcom has had an amazing last year or so with the releases they've done. What did they release? Exo Primal Street Fighters, Resident Evil Remake, Resideval three, Residueval diss like Capcom Fighting, Capcom Arcade Collection. Come on, give me some new I would not be for a Capcom game. No, all right, well there you go. Mister what was your name? Monster Hunter? Yeah, mister Monsters. Oh yeah, Uster Hunter. Though that's Capcom. Okay, yeah, that's better than like there are other typical stuff. Though it's not like a that was a bit more of an original idea. I'll give them that. Yeah, okay, I never played it. I mean I played it, but I was like, man, I liked it. I liked it. It was cool when I played a few games with Eric, when we jumped in together and we were hunting some dinos. That was cool. I enjoyed it. Yeah, but it's not one hundred dollars cool. Plus everything else are fucking attacks and all this shit right in exchange. I like I like the numbers and statistics. I like that ship. I like that. I like listening to that. Yeah it's data data. I like data, like big data. You know. All right, Well, I want to run through our conclusions. Yeah, I'm just gonna say that. I mean, that's they're making billions, and you know, I mean maybe not Capcom, but I mean the big players, they're making so much money. It's just like they could lower their price and they would still you know, you know what I mean, make profits. So it's just like maybe cap comments a bit of trouble. I don't know, I don't. I hope that it'll just remain kind of the same. Yeah, but if it is, think about this, If it remains the same the way it's been going, we're just they're just going to keep getting cheaper and cheaper technically, technically video games are going to be getting cheaper based on like inflation and shit, yeah, exactly relative relatively think about that. Yeah, more we go without them moving up like significantly, but that like thirty dollars, but that's significant. The ten dollars increase was just recently, right, I know, yeah, only recently. Yeah, but with the ten dollars, we're still forty five dollars US in nineteen eighty five, and we are paying fifty five I paid that for starting for cyber sixty US. Now fifty forty five dollars for games, Yeah, you know, some games, so yeah, I got from my conclusion. Technically, the Capcom guy is right. It does cost more money to produce games now, and from a business perspective, they should increase their prices of games, you know, like Capcom should. I don't. I don't see why they shouldn't increase their games to like the average now. But as a consumer, the average like the ninety dollars Canadian or the seventy US for everything else, that's got to stay for a little bit longer. Quite I'd say quite a bit longer. I'm not spending one hundred dollars Canadian on fucking video games each game like a triple A game, no fucking like plus tax, yeah, plus tax, no way, no way, never. I would not play, not pay. I would just play Apex legends. I guess it's free like and uh like, a hundred dollars Canadian is hard to come by even like now, like I've got to work to sold the chair for eighty the other day, there's your full triple A game. I spend it already. The more people, I'd say, so, the hundred dollars is hard to come by, and the higher the prices of games get, the more people will not buy them unless they're bona fide hits and blockbusters like yeah, Like if someone comes out like this is the best game ten out of ten, you're never gonna play it. Then people are gonna be like, Okay, I'll spend one hundred and twenty bucks on it, you know what I mean? But this makes things like game Pass even more enticing, especially if they give away their first party titles on release day, you know what I mean? Oh? Yeah, you know what I mean. So, like Microsoft ten months and it's the cost of one game exactly, So Microsoft is kind of like squashing that for us a bit by giving us game Pass, you know. So what I think would happen if they raise the price by another twenty dollars per game, a lot of people will not be buying Triple A games anymore, and they would actually not make as much money as if they just kept the game prices as they are. Would you rather sell a million copies at ninety dollars, right, or five hundred thousand copies at one hundred and twenty dollars? Like you want to keep up the ninety dollars at a million copies? That's just splitting ball here there, But like that's just what I'm thinking on top of my head, splitting ball. Heres. I ain't spending one hundred and twenty dollars for a game that is a buggy shit mess for three months or servers that won't let you launch on day one. Obviously, the weirdos who still buy Call of Duty would probably spend one hundred and twenty dollars on Call of Duty. Like, I'm sorry you guys, I'm not buying. Yeah, I would not, Like imagine Call of Duty was one hundred and twenty dollars. Wow, Well basically it's it's one hundred dollars. It's sweet, you get a sweet nights one hundred three dollars after tax. Brutle brutle. So in conclusion, obviously, from a business standpoint and the numbers, yes, technically they should raise the game prices and game races have actually went down, as we've concluded, technically went down in price, but from the pelative to average salaries, average spending per capita. Yeah, but from the peeps on the streets, it's a no go for me. I can't see my spend I can't see myself spending over one hundred dollars for a new release. That's it now. Now I wouldn't want to either. I think again, we have to remember in conclusion that time is a currency. And if these games are getting bigger and badder, you know, as we've seen, some aren't, but some are in terms of what they come with right out of the gate, but also their DLC's, their battle passes, all this extra content. You're going to spend all this extra time of your life playing. I mean that's that's that's pastua pastua. Yeah, physical, your physical actually losing time, you're killing yourself. Physical price that these paste the nerds. But if the price goes to hundred bucks, I mean, if you're paying that much, at least you can spend the time, you know, and you get more what is it price per hour value? Right, So that's good I think with specific with specific regard to Capcom themselves, though, man, they got to step up their freaking game making ideas. They gotta step up their ips if they want to raise their prices. I think again that's specific to Capcom. That's not everybody, but a fighting game for ninety dollars, no, exactly an arcade fighting game where I probably have to fucking start over from the beginning if I die, because there's no saving. Here you go. Here's the question for you. To wrap it up, someone made the most amazing game, most emotional game, the best ride you've ever taken, and it's a three hour game and they're charging you seventy bucks. It was the best game you ever played, the best. It would have to be Boner, it would have to be Super Bone or five. Yeah, I'd like it. I don't know that I would played for three hours, Like it just hits you on all levels. You're emotionally, you're emotionally drained. After you and you've just like you sit there, you sit there. I don't think it's possible. Hypothetical, Okay, if someone told you that, would you give them seventy dollars to play this three hour game? Potentially? Potentially? Yeah? Actually, because I'm a huge story head, you know me. I like my story, I like my emotion. That's why I play games. I like my music, my cinema, my cinematic type experiences. So if they could guarantee me that I would feel something and and at deeply on a bunch of levels, then I'd be like, I'll take a bet. Okay, there's seventy blocks. I'll try it out. Look all right, I don't think. I don't know if I would. Maybe I would. Can I watch videos of it? Can I see it? Can I see the inaction? Or do I have to go by this Jamoke's word? No, but you're going to. I'm saying, like you will. It will be the best game you ever played, on an emotional level, on an everything level, the best game, I guess. So then yeah, obviously it's worth it. Okay, it's the best game you ever played. Would you, guys, rather spend very little money and have to play like a game that's just way too long, like Red Dead type of thing and you had to like finish it? Or would you rather spend a lot of money and not have to sink a bunch of your time and life and effort into it. Is there a preference here? Is it obvious? You know what I mean? Because part of me is like, if I spent one hundred bucks and the game was only ten hours, I don't think it matters to me if it's if it's twenty hours, like ten hours, I mean, it could still be really good in ten twenty hours. It could very much have everything you need. Okay, okay, Like a game doesn't need to be one hundred and twenty hours. It doesn't need to be I don't want to play one hundred and twenty hour game like oh my guess I'm up put one hundred and twenty hours and tears the Kingdom. Okay, I don't know how, but there you have it. Games are actually cheaper than they were. So we were wrong and gamers are wrong, and you should pony up well, and thank you for listing. Thank you for tuning in to this week's episode. If you enjoy the conversation, let us know what your thoughts are on the video. Give a comment. Do you think would you pay more for games I like a little bit more? Would you pay twenty dollars more? Let us know? 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