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Andre and Steve are back at the Summer RPG Anime Festival with Princess Minerva, the agressively horny OAV prequel to the agressively horny RPG on PC-98, PC Engine CD, and Super Famicom. We didn't get the game here, but we sure got the anime, and folks, it is a doozy. Strap in!
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[00:00:28] At the Summer RPG Anime Festival Hello, once again, anime people Hello, festival people Welcome back to the festival Thank you for joining me again, Steve You're my guest today, apparently
[00:00:56] Oh, this one is 100% Andre's fault We weren't assigning blame for any of this But if anything was anyone's fault This particular episode Andre's fault Okay, we usually say that When something was bad Do not tell me for a singular second That you didn't enjoy this You don't even lie to me right now Oh Yeah, but
[00:01:24] Could I tell you What happened in a coherent fashion? Not particularly I'm so glad we're not doing like Scene breakdowns on this shit Or any of these other shits Why don't you tell them what this even is In case they skipped a week Okay, you're right You're right You're right Let's start at the beginning Okay So since obviously And thank you for joining us everybody Since I'm sure Pretty much none of you know What Princess Minerva is And I barely do either
[00:01:54] I'll start off with a little bit of Video game information this time So it's an RPG Obviously Released for PC-98 In 1992 Then for PC Engine CD-ROM In 94 And Super Famicom In 1995 As I'm sure you can tell By the names of the consoles I just said This never came out in America But the anime did Just like Fire Emblem Like we talked about last episode
[00:02:23] AD Vision or ADV Films Whatever you want to say I'm so used to saying AD Vision Because that's what they were Originally called They decided to take a chance here On Princess Minerva Because it was like Why the hell not? It has action And blood And tits And It doesn't matter If anyone doesn't know what it is Who cares? We could sell copies Based on that So it was It was brought here In September 1995 This 45-ish minute Maybe a little less 45-minute
[00:02:53] OAV It sure was, Andre You Son of a bitch But yeah According to Wikipedia And this is really all the background We can give you on this This OAV Serves apparently As a prequel To the game It shows how they Assembled the party That you play as In the actual Princess Minerva game So Forgive the self-indulgence Steve But
[00:03:23] I have some Personal history With this one That I think Might be interesting To some And may be interesting To you as well So I thought I'd tell it here If you don't mind For anyone who listened To our fighting game Anime Christmas episodes A few years ago And thank you if you have You already know That Samurai Shodown Is the very first anime I ever bought And watched On VHS The very first one The second Steve Was Princess Minerva Not only that
[00:03:52] It's also the very first anime I ever watched In Japanese With subtitles Because Samurai Shodown Only came dubbed And of course I was an anime noob Back then And I didn't really know What was going on So of course I probably would have just got Hey it's dubbed in English Yes That's the one I want Now at this point I know more And I'm like Oh You know I want to try something In Japanese So I just decided Oh this one looks good And I got it And
[00:04:21] It was truly A mind expander For me Everyone remembers Their first Thing that they watched In Japanese You know Or maybe at this point Like first video game That you played In Japanese With subtitles Because maybe That's more common now Back then That didn't exist So Yeah Steve This is like Some firsts For me But I wanted to Include this Just because Like Again I had no idea It was based off Of anything Until a few years ago I knew there was like
[00:04:50] A Princess Minerva RPG Steve But I thought That came Because of this OAV No It's the other Way around This OAV Was based off The game So That was news To me I mean I I Wouldn't Blame you You know You know You're embarrassed Right You're embarrassed Of me right now You don't even Want to be here I'm not embarrassed But this just Explains so much This is Guys would rather Watch Princess Minerva Than go to therapy Situation
[00:05:22] It's It's fucking true Man Oh my god This is This is anime Baby Look Samurai Showdown Was obviously An anime Princess Minerva Is Anime Like Capital A Anime Man This is The one You're shutting Off Because Someone else Walked into The room But you know You know My shameless ass I didn't care I would just Watch this At home I didn't give a
[00:05:51] Fuck No I mean Like I mean I don't even Now that I think About it I'm not sure Anyone else in the Family really knew What was on These cartoon Tapes These Japanese Cartoon tapes For all they knew Right I'm not sure That they knew But they maybe Knew Oh you know What I do They did To a degree Because I Remember One time My sister She's a few Years older Than me And she Brought She brought Over a couple Of her Friends or Whatever And I was Like I don't Give a fuck I want to Watch you Know
[00:06:21] Whatever tape I wanted to Watch you Know Cutie Honey Honey So I put On one Yeah dude Trust me Any magical Girl that Got naked I was Buying That shit I was a Little Pervert So I Was watching I put On one Of those And as You well Know All these Anime Tapes Back then Had previews At the Beginning By the Way We forgot To mention That last Episode Whoever Uploaded The fire Emblem To YouTube They included The entire Tape
[00:06:51] Steve that Shit took Me back Seeing all Those previews At the Beginning Oh my God Me too And I Forgot That those Were like All without Vocals Because we Gotta sell Sub and Dub versions Of these Things we Can't be Leading these People on One way Or the Other Yep Yep It was Oh man That shit Took me Back Anyway So I Was watching Some of The previews And one Of the Previews On this Tape That I Put on Was Kecko Common Oh
[00:07:20] Do you Know what Kecko Common is Steve Oh I think You do Yeah I've Seen I've Never Seen But I've Seen The Cover Okay So for Anyone who Doesn't know Or lack Thereof Kecko Common Is a Superhero Who wears A red Mask And red Boots And that's It That's all She's Wearing Somehow That's Even more Naked Than being Naked
[00:07:50] I think Yeah It really Is Isn't It It's Somehow More Salacious And she Has red Nunchucks Don't ask Where She keeps Them In her Boots Come on Keep Okay Sorry Okay Yeah Of course Anyway This preview Was on For Kecko Common And my Sister's Friend Was like Yo What is This She's Really Fighting Naked Naked What The Hell Is It Like He Was Shocked Like He Had Never Seen Anything Like This And I Don't Know My Sister Says Oh He Likes
[00:08:20] To Watch These Stupid Cartoons Or What I Don't Know I Don't Know Remember That Reaction From Somebody Anyway I'm Sorry For The Trip Down Memory Lane I Know We're Talking About Princess Minerva I Guess I'm Just Trying To Paint
[00:08:50] The Picture That Like This Is 90s Anime To Its Core At It's Very Like Cutting Edge Nobody Had Really Seen This Shit Before It Knows What Goes On In These In These Cartoons Quote Unquote So I Was On The Yeah Um Steve Typically For This Show I Wouldn't Cover I Wouldn't Suggest That We Cover Rather Anything That
[00:09:20] We Don't Have Any Video Game Familiarity With Because Obviously Princess Minerva Is Not Something We Got Here So We Can't Really Compare It To The Game And You Know Stuff Like That But I Wanted To Do This Because I Needed You To See This I Just I Just Well Yeah Exactly Because I Think After It Was Done A Couple Days Ago In Our Chat On Discord You're Like Princess
[00:09:50] Minerva Huh And I'm Like I Think I Said To You You're Welcome Slash I'm Sorry And I Said Yeah It Was Both Both Of Those Both Of Those Responses Were Appropriate So I'm Sorry For Talking So Much Why Don't You There Were Also Some Butts Oh There's Lots Of Butts
[00:10:19] Okay Fine Fine Fine Fine Fine Real Real Observations The First Fifteen Ish Minutes I'm Kind Of Reminded How Certain Super NES RPGs Might Have Had Little Character Exposition Scenes If You Hung On The Title Screen Long Enough But Since The Name Of The Princess Minerva Game Is Fan Service It's A lot Of Shouting And Vague Threats And Fan Service Instead Of
[00:10:49] You Know Character Exposition It's Kind Of Like The
[00:11:20] Battle Arena Getting Out Of Hand I Mean We're Not Going To Do The Blow By Blow Here Because That Would Be Silly But Even If We Did It Would Be Similarly Tough To Follow If We Did It Would Be Tough To Follow For The The Audience And Quite Frankly At The Time Steve I Didn't Really Get It Either They're Chasing Each Other Around Don't You Dare Eat My Rice Ball Oh You Guys Knocked Me Over Now I'm Chasing You Now I'm Chasing You There's Like A It's Like Stacked On Top Of Each Other And Then They All Go To Jail The Eastern Continent
[00:11:50] Yeah And Then They All Go To Jail They All Get Thrown In Jail At The End You're All Under Arrest For What I Don't Know I Don't Know Noise Disturbances I Mean Because That Was A Lot Of Fucking Shout Oh This Is One Of Those Animes That Shout Everyone's Yelling I'm Like I Can't I Hey What Happened In This Anime Steve I Don't Know Everyone Yelled At Each Other Some Boobies Popped Out On Occasion And Eventually
[00:12:20] It Ended I You Know What's Funny This Anime Is A Lot More Silly Than I Remember It Being Because Like The Titular Princess Minerva Sorry I Had To Say It At Least Once She Keeps Interrupting The Typical RPG They Keep Trying To Have The Serious RPG Introduction Where This Old Man Is Talking While They're Looking At This Withered Yellowed Map Of Of Yord She Like Slices The Screen She Slices Right Through
[00:12:49] It And Starts Yapping About Whatever Like She's Like It's Showing Her Impatience It's Showing Her Character Right She's Just Kind Of Brash And You Know Impulsive And I Get That But It's Also Like Really Dumb Charming Way I Guess I Don't Know It
[00:13:54] Call Another Whip Another Whip Lady I Wasn't Really Like Getting An Archetype Yet I Don't I Think It's Appropriate We're Talking About This Shinden Because We're Not We're Not Really Here For The Story Are We We're More Here For The Plot Lines Sure We Are The Plot Lines Where Princess Minerva Takes A Bath For Like Three Or Four Solid minutes And She's Stark Naked And Then This Kid Is Trying To
[00:14:24] Look At Her Except He Got Lost In The Castle Like Really He Wasn't Being A Pervert For Real Maybe I'm Not A Pervert I Just Got Lost To The Castle And Fell Through You Know To Be Fair To Credit To Him That Is A Big Ass Bathtub It's Huge I Mean Like You Could Stumble Upon That Room If You're Just Crawling Through Vents And Stuff I Mean Not To Be A Narc But What Was He Doing In That Castle In The First
[00:14:53] Place I Mean By The Way Do You Like How We Find Out His I I I Mean Pretty Sure That Was His Name Maybe The Handheld Kevin Goddess Has Princess Minerva Three We Could
[00:15:23] Find This Stuff Out On Maybe It Does I Okay So Obviously Again Everyone Remembers My First Anime Trademark Symbol Right And This Was Mine But It Made An Impact On Me So You Remember The Bad Lady Who's Fighting The Wizard At The Beginning Who's Fighting I Guess Her Like Tutor Or Something Like That And He Blasts Her With A Spell And She Does The Giga Crisis Spell With The Rocks The Earth Spell You Know And That's
[00:15:53] Like The coolest Thing About This Anime Besides All The Tits And Blood Or Whatever It's The Spells Are Really Cool And I Try To Do A Little Bare Minimum Of Research I Did Look At Footage Of All The Versions Of The Game And I Did Find A Couple Interesting Things So The PC 98 Version So You Remember After They Do Giga Crisis She Does Giga Crisis At The Beginning Then She Takes A Bath In
[00:16:32] Versus Like P Because You Know How It Was On PC Engine And Of Course Super Famicom They Weren't Going To Have The Nudity Right PC PC 88 PC 98 Didn't Give The
[00:17:02] Reason Why I Am The Way I Am Right I Mean I Didn't Stand A Chance Man I Threw Myself To The Wolves The First Thing I Watched Is This Anime Is My First Like Real Anime Like I Mean Where Am I Going To Go From There I Was Was Going To Say The Sleazy Adult District Here In New York But Giuliani Mostly Got Rid Of That When It Was Time For Disney To Move In That's What Zoran Needs To Bring Back Right He Needs To Bring Back
[00:17:31] Porn To The Streets Of New York City Maybe If He's Really Losing Hey Guys How About Porn Didn't Didn't Cuomo Try That Hey Guys You Can Smoke Weed Now Check It Out Didn't He Do That When He Was Getting Real Desperate Yeah Yeah That's He Has To Keep That Under His Hat Just In Case He Gets In Trouble Yeah Like I Noticed That The Spells Like In The Spell Effects During Battles And Stuff Were Like Very
[00:18:02] Pronounced I'm Not Steve I Feel Like That Final Battle Doesn't Make Any Sense Like After They Release Blue Morris From That Rock Like She's Chained Up On Then Like Stuff Happens And Then Like It's Over I Don't Know Like It Was Very
[00:18:32] Vague Well Firstly Can't We Just Say How It's Great That Princess Minerva Is Just Such Great Friends With Blue Morris Really Good Friends With Blue Morris Yeah Really Really Good Friends Especially At The End But Okay But For Real Though It's Really Hard To Pick Out Anything Apart From This Scene Here Because For One I Mostly Know This From Sleazy Reputation Alone You
[00:19:09] And Then She Comes Back Super Dramatic Like You've Given Me No Reason To Care About Any Of This Yeah It Gets Very Serious At The End For No Reason It Gets Very Dramatic Like The Like The First Act Is Basically Looney Toons Right And Then The Second Act Is Like There's A Fighting tournament, which also doesn't really resolve itself. They all just kind of get in the arena and posture and yell at each other. And then it's like over.
[00:19:38] I can't kill handsome men. Yeah. But then like the, but then whatever her name is, she was also like princess Minerva. Hmm. She has nice eyes. Sure. I'll join her. It's like, okay. Maybe if I played the games and had some attachment for it's clear. This is clearly for fans. Yeah. 100%.
[00:20:04] And young men, really young men like you who need something to watch once a week over and over again. Oh, by the way, I get the cutie common thing now. I didn't under, I didn't get that joke at the time. I don't think I had seen. Okay. Cutie honey yet. I, I would shortly, I would shortly after this, get the new cutie honey series. And I don't think I knew what common writer was either. So I didn't really get it.
[00:20:35] Now, of course I get it. Cutie common. Ha ha. I don't know. I just thought they really tried to play a lot like Superman. Like they really don't know who she is. Like, come on guys. Well, they did the thing where her glasses broke. Her cyber glasses broke. And then the dude is like, Hey, it's you. I'm like, come on. The only reason it works on Superman is because he changes his whole persona to it to go along with it. But he's Clark. Like here, it's like, come on. She's just wearing less clothes than normal and has the glasses.
[00:21:04] Come on. I know. But hey, you know what? Because of Superman, I always like give that shit a pass. Yeah. As, as I'm sure the audience can gather at this point, this shit is almost impossible to evaluate as a real anime. The humor is so silly. It could belong to any OAV, any comedy OAV from the nineties. Golden Boy, any of that shit. Did you ever watch Golden Boy?
[00:21:31] I don't know if you, I remember, I remembered what it was because it was on the fire emblem preview, but I've never seen it. Yeah. Yeah. Like there's like nineties OAV comedies was a thing. And like this, it had that kind of humor. And then like the ties to the actual game seem fairly tenuous because it's a prequel, right? There's no actual like game stuff going on there.
[00:21:57] And then everything else is so scattershot that it literally feels like it's making it up as, as they go along. Which quite frankly is fine because, and we talked about this whenever we've, we've talked bubble gum crisis on the show. We've talked 80 police and I feel like sometimes nineties anime is just vibes and that's okay. And we accept that.
[00:22:24] Like gunsmith cats vibe the fuck out. Ninja scroll vibes, right? Like burn up vibes and tits. Of course, like that's what this shit was. Guns, swords, fan service, and vibes. And princess Minerva fits perfectly into that cannon. So it may sound like we're criticizing the hell out of it. It doesn't make any sense. It does all this weird shit, but honestly, Steve, I wouldn't have it any other way.
[00:22:56] You know, I think you're about right. But at the same time, I don't know if I'm going to watch it again, let alone once a week. I mean, look, man, I'm just saying 30 years ago, you had to do what you had to do. That's all. Yeah, maybe 30 years ago, but much like fire emblem. I don't know about that. Don't experiment. Yeah. You know, also princess Minerva, I think is a great example of why I loved OAV so much.
[00:23:25] It's because, you know, again, we talked about this with Bubblegum Crisis as well and AD Police. You could have the budget of like a TV show jammed into like three episodes or in this case, one episode. So the animation quality is so fucking high. The production values on this shit is sky high, almost like movie quality practically. But it's short. It's like, what, 43 minutes? If that. If that. And you get all that shit.
[00:23:54] You don't get that from TV shows. And of course, also on OAV, you don't have to conform to any broadcast standards. You can show whatever you want. So it's like the combination of those two things made that market alluring to me. You can even show a post credit scene where you got two no name guards sitting around going, oh, man, I sure. It sure is boring here. My guard. This piece is what you all guard strive for.
[00:24:24] Did you see that? You missed it. Yeah, no, no, no. I watched it. I watched it. And then the princess castle explodes to be continued. Never because it's an OVA. Yep. To be continued in the video game. Princess Minerva for Super Famicom today. PC 98. 3D. CD, super CD ROM. If we had gotten the game, I think it would have gotten itself into hot water.
[00:24:54] Once they find out there's a nasty cartoon tape with full frontal in it. Right. So. Oh, they wouldn't have. I think the tape wouldn't have mattered, but it would have been weird to have an M rated something or other in 1994. Yeah. Five. I guess so. I guess. I guess it's just interesting how stuff could fly under the radar then, because this would have caused a controversy because no one would have ever known about it.
[00:25:23] Would have never been popular. So the game would have just sold to a scant few RPG heads. And oh, there's an anime too. And that's kind of it. They could have probably pulled off a fighting game, though, because obviously, like I said, there's a there's a fighting tournament in the middle of this thing. They probably could have made a crappy fighting game. I mean, we did that a lot. And I just like Sailor Moon fighting games. There's Ron Mahath fighting games. Right. Right. So that's right.
[00:25:53] We got all those. Well, we got one of those. We got one of those Ron Mahath games. We got one of those Ron Mahath games. And I think that was already borrowed from something else. But that's not what this show is. Well, there was like two on Super Nintendo. One came here, reskinned as something else. And then we got the second one as Ron Mahath. I believe that's what happened. The 90s. Do you like Rama? No. I know what it is. I've never seen it. Really? I think you would. I think you would get into that shit. You would enjoy.
[00:26:23] I don't think I really have anything else to say, but I mean, unless you unless you got something left for me about the Princess Minerva. Maybe just that finding this in general was a doozy. Maybe because of all the adult themes, this thing was buried on YouTube. Typing in Princess Minerva OVA.
[00:26:46] He just slaps up a few uploads of Fencer Minerva, which, you know, I just instinctively clicked on because it was late at night when I was doing this the first time. And then I backed out when it started out, you know, a lot more innocently than what I was promised. So, you know, for this and all the other ones, maybe just follow the links we provide in the description of the episodes. Yeah. Click there.
[00:27:10] Check the description of this episode if you want to watch Princess Minerva and not be watching Fury Fencer F or whatever you whatever you clicked on. All right. That's that's about it on Princess Minerva. Thank you for indulging me, Steve, down this trip down pervert memory lane. I don't think I'll ever be the same again. I don't know. What are we watching next time on the festival? Final Fantasy Legend of the Crystals. Never heard of it. See you later.