The 3DO Experience - Episode 48: Starblade: Almost Perfect!

[00:00:00] Have you experienced the awesome power of the Panasonic Real 3DO System? Obviously. Hello, everybody and welcome back to the 3DO Experience, the 3DO Retrospective Podcast where we talk about all things Panasonic 3DO, the company console and everything in between.

[00:00:46] I'm Bill and this is Thrak. How are you doing Thrak? I'm getting better. I assume the audience can hear. I still sound a bit congested. Maybe I'm not too congested. It's just I'm coughing a lot.

[00:00:59] Some of voice is probably a bit scratch from that, but I've slowly been getting back my energy so I'm much more up. And I'm not like, you know, pounding the cold medicine trying to find something that works.

[00:01:12] I don't know if other people do that, but for me whenever I get a cold, I just, I'm like, oh, let me try this and this and this and this and mix stuff together which I probably shouldn't be doing.

[00:01:22] But I do it anyways. So I'm getting there drinking a lot of water trying to get as much rest as I can. And of course, playing playing the odd video game or two, but how are you Bill?

[00:01:35] I am good. I've been having one of those weeks where I'm just like, I just wanted to be over because I'm so tired, but that's that's part of being an adult. So. Yep. Yeah. You just pine for the weekend, don't you?

[00:01:53] Pretty much it's one of those like daily things. Me and Alex are heading to a convention this weekend so that should be pretty fun. That's good.

[00:02:01] I doubt there's going to be a lot of game hunting is this more of a comic pop culture convention than a well out gaming one, but I might, you never know, I might find something weird. There's going to be somebody there selling games.

[00:02:12] There's always a vendor, but it's always like the odd. It's either like they everything they have is I already own it or the things that are good are way too expensive. Yeah. Like, guys, like here's my entire Atari Jaguar collection. It's like nobody wants that dude.

[00:02:29] Jaguar games are surprisingly hard to find at a convention unless it's like a full on gaming convention.

[00:02:36] I'm like 3D games are basically impossible. Like at the last game in convention, I went to I went to like 12 boots and asked for 3D games and the response was, oh we didn't bring him because we didn't think anyone wanted them. But I was just like. Great.

[00:02:50] You should be like, well, do it next time because I will be here. I promise. And then you don't show up. Yeah. Well, I will be at that convention next year as well. But on the show as well. But yeah.

[00:03:01] The the the retro store by me that I am starting to frequent more again. They have a boxed Jaguar in the box and I'm not going to tell you the price of it. It's ridiculous.

[00:03:13] And they had some like boxed Jaguar games. I think they had the boxed copy of NBA Jam. It was like 110 dollars. And I'm like fuck out of here.

[00:03:23] They did have a nice condition long box of the 3D game. I think it's called neurodancer and I think they want like 400 bucks for it. And no, no. And then I looked at that a couple other games but it was nothing.

[00:03:37] It was stuff we either covered or stuff I really just wasn't interested in or the price wasn't good. So that's kind of the issue with 3D. And it was stuff you know, but they're good for having Xbox games. So yes, still working through that.

[00:03:53] I mean for me like my might might would you Xbox in a while. I need to get on that same. I get about 3. I got about 3. 360 and play a little bit on that. My 360's giving me issues.

[00:04:03] It's like recently I've been like turning it on and then it's giving me a red light and then it gives me an error code.

[00:04:11] And the error code is E79. I Google it and it has something to do with like the hard drive like not installing updates properly or something like that.

[00:04:21] Like it can connect to the internet, but it's just it's being really funky and now I don't know if it's just that the hard drives going bad and I need to just replace it because I looked in to see what I have and I have a fucking game stop hard drive and there and I'm like, oh, that's probably why it sucks.

[00:04:36] You can find OEM ones on eBay, but I'm just trying to see if there's a way I can do that without having to just swap out the hard drive entirely because I just think I've never done it.

[00:04:47] I don't know if it like messes with things internally or not. I don't know because I was trying to download. I bought two games from the 360 store because it's closing and it is having like a deep discount.

[00:05:00] I grabbed need for speed most wanted for like two bucks and things red faction gorilla for like that or that is a good game.

[00:05:10] Yeah, they were both super cheap and some people say, oh, they have like dead island for 75 cents. I'm like, I don't want to play dead. So, 75 cents is an even enough to convince me to play dead island.

[00:05:22] Dead islands, dead islands. So I bought those two games. I downloaded most wanted it took a little while 360. But then like it said it didn't install it or something was weird so I don't know.

[00:05:35] Maybe this is just a long, long-winded way of saying I have to replace the hard drive. I'm just hoping I don't have to do that, not that it's like expensive or paying the ass to do it.

[00:05:46] If I don't have to. But yeah, we'll see. I'll give it up. I'll probably give it another week keep trying at it and if it just keeps popping up I'll just say fuck it. So because I don't want to lose all of my 360 games to play. So,

[00:06:02] Now I get that. Oh, yeah. What have you been playing Bill? Who played anything? Still playing the Mario, a thousand year dole remake still enjoying that. Such a good game. Like I can't say game. Gushing about it. What else have I been playing?

[00:06:25] Then I kind of got the fire emblem kick going on again so I'm like kind of like going around doing another playthrough of rehabs.

[00:06:34] I started it up. I got through the opening. I haven't picked a house yet because I'm debating what's rude. I want to do this time. Have you done all three yet? I've done all four technically. I've technically become the DLC. I've done all five.

[00:06:49] I've never did the DLC. It's interesting. It's pretty cool. Yeah, I've done all five so like this is just your leave for fun. I prefer blue lines, blue lines. Still probably my favorite. But yeah, I'm kind of toying with that.

[00:07:07] Either that are all just boot up awakening again and do another awakening ring because that's pretty quick. Yeah, I need to do awakening at some point. Yeah, I find I finish do material. The base game and all of its DLC.

[00:07:20] Such a such a fun game. Such a great ride. Just like the fast-paced power fantasy you want it to be. Even though it's challenging, it never felt discouraging and I was just hooked to the whole way.

[00:07:33] It took me a little over 30 hours which was more than I expected out of do material. But I just ended up having a really good time with it. And so then I jumped into Mafia 2. Beat that already. It was a pretty quick game.

[00:07:46] Not a big fan of Mafia 2. There are some people who love this game. And I can kind of see why. But I just think the story wasn't as good as the first game. And it just didn't click with me.

[00:07:59] I don't know. It just something about it felt just kind of whatever. You know what I mean? I don't know. It's a little too generic, I think, for my taste, I guess. But I wasn't going to jump into Mafia 3 right away.

[00:08:15] But I was playing a little Assassin's Creed Chronicles China. I've done the first three missions of that. I'm not sure what to say yet. Like a 2DAC game. I don't know. I'll work through that trilogy, hopefully before I get to origins.

[00:08:31] But I said, fuck it. Let me try. Som Mafia 3. Yeah, I got a physical of it. Because I remember when Mafia 3 came out, a friend of mine was really into it. Like this was like his game. And he put a lot of hours into it.

[00:08:46] And I've been putting a little bit of time into it. I think I've gotten past the intro. So now I'm like kind of more into playing the game. And it's really fucking good. Like third three is like the one that people say is like the one to play.

[00:08:59] I would say, I say all three are with you time. There were like the remake of one I loved. I thought it was a really good take on like the classic mob story. You know, and it has a couple of interesting twists and turns in there. I liked.

[00:09:16] And the remake just did a good job of making it more modern. Because if you try to play the original Mafia now. Yeah. Not good. Mafia 2. See, I feel like I'm in the minority. Like I just didn't care for it. I don't know what it was.

[00:09:30] But the main character in 2 is in 3. So. Gotcha. It doesn't feel like a direct connection in terms of like, oh, like for story reasons. And they're probably just like, oh, let's just throw him in there because why not. So be at like three.

[00:09:49] I love the main character linking clay. Like he, he's, I'm already like really into him as a character. I'm like, I'm engrossed in his story. I'm behind him 100%. The 60s New Orleans setting. I think is a fantastic setting.

[00:10:05] So you get like, so the music is all fucking great. Great. Because it's 1968. So you're getting all those like classic rock tunes and bowtown tunes and all that within reason. You know, there's no Beatles stuff unfortunately. But you get like, you get the stone. You get CCR.

[00:10:20] You get little richer. You get, you know, other other ones I'm not thinking of off top of my head. But you got to, you can look it up. It's a fantastic soundtrack. And the game is much more of like a straight up GTA style game. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:10:35] The other two are a bit more linear in story driven where here it is much more. It kind of almost turns into kind of factions, I think. Because you have all these different factions that you're trying to deal with because you're like slowly taking over the town.

[00:10:49] It's, it's a whole thing. But it's really good. And I'm probably going to stick with it and I just play all the way through. And I'll still do a little bit of AC Chronicles China. Because it's weird that SEO is in this game.

[00:11:04] Because if you watched Assassin's Creed Embers, the main girl in China that you're playing as she's in that, because like she goes all the way to Italy to find SEO and the whole thing. So when you're doing like the combat tutorials, that's him talking to you.

[00:11:21] It doesn't sound like him at all. Like they didn't get Roger Craig Smith for this unfortunately, but yeah. Yeah. But it's, I don't know. It's weird that it wasn't released exclusively for the Vita because it feels like a Vita game.

[00:11:36] It probably, I think what happened was it came out for the Vita and then they realized fought later. It was later. No, it came out there. Yeah. But on the Vita it was originally PS4 Xbox One. Oh. Yeah. Oh, no. I'm thinking of Assassin's Creed III liberation.

[00:11:50] That's, that's the one I'm thinking of. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. There was like those Chronicles games. There was like the trilogy of them that they did at like 20, 20, 15 and then they're early 2016. Yeah, where they were just like, oh, let's make some like 2.5D games for some reason. Right.

[00:12:08] They were made by a completely different studio and like they have some interesting like art direction. Like China has a pretty decent art direction. And you know, and I like the main character you play as, but I don't know. The gameplay, I don't know.

[00:12:23] Moving Assassin's Creed into 2D. I don't know. It doesn't work as well as you think it should. It's kind of like that Batman Arkham Black Egg game that was like 2D. Oh, it'll be on a little bit. I can see that connection. But I'll stick with it.

[00:12:40] It's only, I think it only has like 12 missions. I'm running on the fourth one. So I'll stick with it. Oh, I just thought of this. I should mention I happen playing a lot of N64 lately.

[00:12:55] I may or may not be for a GNC episode with a certain individual. It's not me. I'll say it's original. If I show up, it would just inside arguments. Well, you'll have one defender. But that being said, we are making progress. I'll leave it at that.

[00:13:17] But I bring it up because we play to game called the test drive overdrive. No, not test drive. Top gear overdrive. Because there's the top gear game series that has nothing to do with top gear, the show. But it's that. No crazy.

[00:13:34] Forza Horizon 4, I'm still playing a little bit of that. Has a whole series of missions based on top gear like the show. But I think the game came out after all of the Jeremy Clarkson stuff happened.

[00:13:46] So the presenter is a completely different guy than I'm like, I don't recognize this man. Yeah, a little which is a little bit of a shame. Clarkson is in some of the, I think he's in motor sports 3 and 4.

[00:13:59] I think his voice appears in there which is pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately top gear is a series show that kind of went to shit after they fired the host, which I mean, I get why they fired him though.

[00:14:10] I get why they did but at the same time he was always like that. So I mean, I think it was he took it too far. Yeah, I mean, they paid the price because the show basically kind of died.

[00:14:22] Yeah, I mean, I just went on and it's a bit scared after they got into them. Though to be fair, the show that they did that was sort of them continuing it called the Grand Tour. Nobody really watched that either.

[00:14:34] No, well, for what I read is like it was really good at the start and then people realized they don't have the budget to like keep it up. No, yeah, I watched a bit of it.

[00:14:44] Like you have to really like the bits or it's just the three of them just like throwing jokes at each other. And really my favorite episodes of Top Gear in that era were the location episodes where they just went to a random area and just fucked around.

[00:14:58] Yeah, the one where they go to the US incredible like that is an all-time like TV episode. That's like an all-time great TV episode. The one they go for India is great. Oh yeah, my favorite is when they have to make striculum those in London and the girl.

[00:15:12] Yeah, this is at serious. Like that stuff is great. And yeah, they had the BBC budget to pull that off whereas Amazon's not giving them that stuff. You know, we should play the Grand Tour game one of these days. Yeah.

[00:15:26] We should as like a special like like we should do like a sub series of this called like Bill's Brumbrum Games where we just talk about like a random ass racing game. Let me fun. Yeah. Because you like racing games and you've been getting me into them.

[00:15:41] You fucking piece of shit. So it's amazing how like like. I like racing. It's just funny how like there's so many of them. They're all fucking so weird and different. Yeah, maybe we should listeners. Should we do a side series where we talk about fucking Brumbrum Games?

[00:15:56] Please let us know. I was going to say though just before we get into our actual topic that top gear overdrive game. Yeah, please. Solid 3D racer like decent controls, fun tracks, like everything.

[00:16:10] The reason I bring it up is I shared this in the in the super pod network. And I think I shared it in the GNC server as well. We were going through the car select screen and during the thing, it was like, okay, these are pretty normal.

[00:16:23] You get your standard quote unquote factory cars like they basically looked like the cars but they didn't have branding. But we're getting all the way through and like it's all decent cars like homers like stuff, jeeps like a Volkswagen beetle.

[00:16:37] And then we get towards the end and one of the cars is just a fucking hot dog. The wheel. The leaner mobile the Oscar Meyer weiner mobile the wheels were pickles it was great.

[00:16:50] That's oh, that's but I was bunch about probably stole that the best part was like Alex had already picked her car. I spoiled who the person it's obvious at this point. And I get to that I'm like well, I know what I'm playing as now.

[00:17:05] It was fucking uncontrollable because they maxed speed for no reason. I mean, why wouldn't you though that's the thing. Oh, but the best part was I picked it right there. I didn't keep scrolling. There was also you could play as the N64 logo.

[00:17:20] What's great? Sure. Why not and a taco. So Taco Bell. When what I did run to the border for a little fourth meal they still say fourth meal. They don't say fourth meal anymore.

[00:17:33] I don't think so. I remember now I feel old as shit because I used to say fourth meal.

[00:17:40] Yeah, see I'm all for racing games doing wacky shit like that but like at the same time it was so random like you're just scrolling through all these realistic cars and then just three of them at the end are like jokes and I'm like this is hilarious, but I think that's kind of what's amazing about racing games is that at least the old ones like you get away with doing that cookie stuff whereas

[00:17:59] it feels like now they don't do that anymore. They're all like ultra realistic or they're just like cart racers. You know, you're either Mario Kart or your forza. Yeah, you know, I mean there is cruising, cruising blast but that was like an arcade board so yeah.

[00:18:18] I had to bring that up low because the hot dog cars, one of the funniest things I've experienced recently. In cruising blast can you play as like a like I just had giant T-Rex?

[00:18:29] I think so. And like he's like racing like super fast but his feet are just like just going to slow. I think so. I didn't play cruising blast, maybe I should play cruising blast has a great theme song. I really does. But speaking of games. The transition.

[00:18:53] Car, we're vehicle games. Yeah, kind of. We're playing for this episode. We're going to be talking about Starblade. Yes, a blade of stars. What's so funny is the advertising flyer for this on Wikipedia. It's a slogan is make space for starblade.

[00:19:14] It's like it's not space played. It makes space for space play anyways. Yeah, this was an interesting one. I think we had this one literally got mentioned in a previous episode and I bought it the second you would brought it up because I.

[00:19:30] It's because I I'm pretty sure I bought this in a bundle with a loan in the dark. Yes.

[00:19:37] And a loan in the dark. It had like a makeshift cover like somebody put like some like a goofy horror font on the front of it which I thought was cute. And then this was here and I was like, I don't know this game at all.

[00:19:50] And so I mentioned we should play at a sometime and we should and now we have. It's playing in the background. It's like a matter of arcnade. And I remember because the main reason why this one stuck out was the. That those guys right there.

[00:20:05] Yeah, the Klenoa people made this. The American hating tail studio. Yes. Not better. Such a bitter little shit. Wow. Watch watch like in the next week though, announced the tales of the best remake and you'll probably lose your mind.

[00:20:22] They're going to they're going to they're about to announce and then they're going to cancel and cite this podcast as the reason why they didn't do it. If they did that I would I would love that actually they should name check me if they do that. Yes.

[00:20:37] We just want to make this one tail spans Dave and worse. But we're going to make the other guy on the podcast happy. So it gives them a reason to never play these games. Yeah, even though I know I should I will shut up. Shut up.

[00:20:50] Anyway, you can you can tell me in Chris and person we know where the only fans of the series. I mean, I like what I played. It's just RPGs or it's it's a lot for me, man.

[00:21:01] I will say the tail series is a lot of RPG and they're not the easiest RPGs to get to. I'll just sit down and play the Spariet and we'll be fine.

[00:21:12] Okay, who knows maybe with my new job, I will I will be I will allow myself to play more games who knows. But we'll find out.

[00:21:21] So getting into Starblade now this game was it's older than I thought it this game was originally released in 1991 in Japan originally for the arcades. I mean, look at the game footage viewers. You this is such clearly at arcade game. Hmm.

[00:21:43] Interestingly enough, it doesn't give a date for one of the 3D over version came out which least may that believe this was a pretty immediate port. Maybe.

[00:21:52] Well, it doesn't give a date say if you look online, but if you look on the case, it says not to say 94. Okay, so we're since then. Yeah. Yeah, because 3D of 93. Yeah, so that makes a lot of sense actually 94.

[00:22:09] So it is an arcade rail shooter as we said, and I'm go. And this game is interesting. It is. So it's compared heavily to games like Star Fox page Dragon Res. Uh, I don't see the Star Fox comparison that much. See, I don't make the Star Fox comparison.

[00:22:35] I mean, Star Fox is kind of a rail shooter, but it's in a it's in a different fashion. Um, Panzers your Gune. I mean, Panzers your Gune is close to the Star Fox. I think Star play. Yeah, even and both of those are console experiences.

[00:22:51] Even though they feel like arcade games, they were made for the home, right? Um, so those comparisons I've never understood. Res, I don't think I've ever played. Res, I believe this is the game correct me if I'm wrong that when it got the PS2 ports,

[00:23:08] they released an accessory with a called the Trans vibrator, which is essentially a thing that just vibrates. And apparently it's it's supposed to react to like when you're playing the game, but they they forgot who their demographic was. So the the goal for a little rest, tangent here.

[00:23:27] The intention was you were supposed to sit on it. Ha ha funny. Um, and it would vibrate along with the game because res is a very visually stimulating game. And it's awesome. Oh yeah, it's a very good game. The.

[00:23:43] So first off they called it the Trans vibrator, which was already off to a bad start. Um, yeah, it was supposed to be a thing. It was supposed to enhance the the entire game's experience.

[00:23:54] But of course we gamers are a group of degenerates and they immediately took it the other way. Exactly there there may have been a couple ladies who had a great time with us. I just say just say and maybe it's not impossible.

[00:24:09] I think screw attack when they did their top 10. And the geogamic accessories they had they. Yeah, listed the trans vibrator number one because it was the part it was like it's the perfect way. You must girl that they found.

[00:24:21] Yeah, yeah, they were like, look, it's the perfect game. You can play it with your partner and they can both have a great time. That was like it was like Danny and it was at you back in the day. Yeah, but we don't talk about Craig anymore.

[00:24:33] Yeah, or anyway, anyway. But but like they make those comparisons, but I feel like those aren't accurate. Well, because when I see this game there was one game that immediately came to mind. Maybe you'd agree with me on this and that is the Star Wars arcade game.

[00:24:49] Yeah, honestly it's so much closer that. I mean, yeah, sure the original wasn't like the vector graphics version of it, which I have played before. I think it was a bonus on one of the rogue swadren games or even say the 32x version of the Star Wars Arcade,

[00:25:05] which definitely like cleaned up the game and all that. It's something closer I think to that, you know, now I don't know why. But when I saw this game and I was playing this game, there was one person I was thinking of in our network.

[00:25:21] And that is a for some reason, Drey from fine time. I haven't checked with Drey, but I need to maybe maybe use listening. Drey did you play Star Blade in the arcade because for some reason when I looked at this game and saw this in our arcade game,

[00:25:34] for some reason I went, oh Drey's probably played this. I don't know why so please Drey let me know. But yeah it's a 3D arcade rail shooter that when it came out, I think the whole idea was, oh look at polygons, polygons exist and you can shoot them.

[00:25:52] Isn't that cool dudes? Which on the time it probably was? I'm sure and I imagine as an arcade experience it was probably really cool because it uses one of the, I guess they call them the Yoke Sticks but they're kind of like the weird half steering wheel.

[00:26:06] It's so fun to me like you're in a jet fighter essentially. Yeah yeah and seeing pictures of the arcade cabinet, it looks like it's a cool arcade experience because that's really what enhances

[00:26:20] these sort of like rail shooters because playing them on a console with a controller is for the most part kind of lame. But when you, Sarah sitting in this cool ass cockpit with all these like decals and you grab the stick and there's like pedals and shit.

[00:26:35] You know like that's what makes it fun. Yeah like the way I was thinking about it was with the whole Star Fox comparison stuff. This game is like a real shooter in the literal sense where you were legit on a rail and just controlling a redical.

[00:26:49] Star Fox is you're technically on a rail but you also control the ship. So it's not nearly at, it's a lot more you're in your in control more than say. With this game where it's literally on a rail you're just controlling the radical.

[00:27:06] It's honestly kind of like a light gun shooter in a way. Yeah yeah I can see the the light gun comparison. It doesn't.

[00:27:13] It wouldn't work is say like a light gun game and I sent you a picture of the arcade cab I found like a little bit more of a detailed look to it. Kind of inviting looking right. Yeah I could see the light gun comparisons.

[00:27:26] Oh yeah yeah I could see it. I can see it right away and I don't know if the. If this version of the game has light guns support because I mean the video does have some light guns but they're kind of hard to find I think.

[00:27:41] Yeah I see him every now and then they're not exactly cheap. Yeah and I don't know if this game would even support that because playing this game with a 3D of D pad I didn't find to be a very pleasant experience.

[00:27:55] But to be fair, a lot of these kind of games don't translate the consoles very well anyways. Unless you have an analog stick like if you if you have like an analog stick and you adjust the sensitivity just right you can have some pretty good.

[00:28:13] Yeah it looks as to sort of make up for it but here like the D pad it moves faster than you'd think but it is still kind of slow. I was able to get decently far the game so I think only about like 30 35 minutes.

[00:28:26] Yeah I got it along. I got a good chunk of the way through it but you know after like one or maybe two plays you know I ran out of quarters.

[00:28:36] And as I just and I moved on to I moved on to like the NBA jam cab you know.

[00:28:41] Yeah yeah it's interesting like that you bring up the D pad because the game is literally you press one button and you move it with the D pad is a very simple and easy game to pick up.

[00:28:52] Oh yeah the D pad yeah it's it's weirdly well programmed but also just kind of unfortunately not exactly the funnest thing ever just because.

[00:29:02] The only real shooter I could think of that played well on a D pad was like panjured right good but it was designed around that. Yeah or yeah that game kind of gets away with it and it has like the really good lock on missile system as well.

[00:29:15] And you know have to be super accurate you just like hold on to the lock on and then you know.

[00:29:20] But your are you're ready to kill around the enemy and then the game does kind of the rest of the work for you and so the game becomes not so much timing your shot accurately but being able to get enough shots off.

[00:29:33] And you know being able to do some dodging when you can you know panjured your got panjured should I go what a fucking good game that is. So I will say now but.

[00:29:44] There isn't like gameplay wise is not much to say about star blade it is the most real shooter real shooter you'll ever play. Graphically though the 3DO version is kind of interesting because the original game was very star foxes like. Flat textures not a whole lot of.

[00:30:02] The detailed thought polygons everywhere the 3DO version adds this bonus like fully textured mode which yeah.

[00:30:12] I found really interesting mostly because I was his texture gives it ps1 style textures it looks pretty good i'm not going to lie like first it looks better in the arcade version like it's.

[00:30:27] For the time it looks pretty solid and to me the thing that impressed me the most with this game was this game runs exceptionally good.

[00:30:36] Oh yeah like no I didn't notice any like frame drops or any slow down or anything like that it seems to flow pretty well almost like just like a well done movie on the 3DO kind of.

[00:30:49] But in the screen I played did you play texture to original first I tried both. So I played the original first and it played so well I was actually expecting that the textured version to speak slower but no they both run identical speed like.

[00:31:06] Literally the only difference between the two is like do you want slightly better looking or older looking. It basically but the new textured version I think looks really solid.

[00:31:19] No it really does like you can see a bit of it in the background there on for x screen but um for the video watchers. Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the version it's using so.

[00:31:30] It it may seem like there's no slow down at all frame rate is really solid like honestly the only downside to this game is it's just. Hardest fuck because it's not designed well for a console.

[00:31:42] Yeah because I think not not to get too technical but I have a sense that the background is just like a.

[00:31:50] Just like just essentially like a movie file that's playing and then say all the assets you can interact with are kind of separated from it so it's probably taking less processing power from the 3DO because you you can't fully interact with the world.

[00:32:06] But the game will just place say the certain ships when they need to come in or certain missiles. So probably allows the game to run much more smoothly. That's just me guessing.

[00:32:16] I also think hard if it is so the 3DO not the most powerful system ever we've kind of been over that in the past but um it had solid enough hardware that was pretty.

[00:32:27] Programmer friendly and I have a feeling of developer like Namco who just at the time knew what the new with the fuck they were doing probably was able to take it and just optimize it properly to into this is my guess.

[00:32:43] Yeah that would be my guess and and I feel like the only reason they did this was it was just like hey this the star cave game it you know people liked it at the time.

[00:32:55] And I and I think it did pretty decently well so they're like hey let's just adapt it to the home console and see if people enjoy it. Yeah because there is actually a Sega CD port as well which I'm curious about because I highly doubt it says visually.

[00:33:11] My guess is it it probably cuts this screen down by like a third and runs it half the frame rate.

[00:33:18] Probably because the only other version was the PlayStation version which was apparently a remake from the ground up so I'm actually kind of curious to try that one out just to see how different it is. My guess is it's probably not that much different but who knows.

[00:33:37] I thought I've received on my pick it up. Oh I'm sure it's not an expensive game by any means. Oh and I checked with Dre he did play this game. I knew it. I knew it. This just screened Dre to me. Nice.

[00:33:52] Yeah of the net though there's really not a whole lot to say it seems to be a part like basically an arcade perfect port. As part of it so as part of it you can get on the console.

[00:34:04] Yeah. I mean if it had say like a flight stick or like like on support or something like that it would definitely help make this more playable.

[00:34:13] But again it's hard to justify playing getting one of these for your home console at its time when you know you probably couldn't afford that many games for your system anyways especially a system is expensive is this guy. Yeah.

[00:34:28] You know they'd be like oh let me get a version of this arcade game and it's like well it's kind of cool but after maybe two hours you probably get sick of it and then you're like what do I play next you know.

[00:34:40] Yeah this one's a tough one to kind of nail down my opinion on it reception wise. Which before we get into must play okay stay away I did want to mention I did look through the manual by the way there's something about like good in here.

[00:34:55] Okay is there a story in this game at all or is it just like a fluffy nothing. It seemed like there was a very minor story like that opening cutscene about the red the red star or red eye whatever. Yeah going on.

[00:35:11] Alright our co pilot's got pink eye quick run to the CVS to get some medicine for him. So reception wise I believe so for the arcade version I should say because that's the one that really matters this game was apparently that's your your ship.

[00:35:30] Oh that's an interesting kind of Japanese like helmet. That's what it looks like to me. That looks like a portion of a Gundam or something. Yeah you're like jet Jaguar.

[00:35:43] So the game was incredibly successful in the arcades like it was well received and did very well in our kids it was a quarter it was definitely a quarter. Gobler as they say oh yeah because like most arcade games this game is difficult.

[00:35:59] Yeah and it's also kind of a dicting like especially in that arcade sense where like you're like one just one more come on one more. Yeah there's no option to like artificially add quarters into here.

[00:36:12] No you get like I think you get like five tries and that's it. Yeah which is kind of lame but you know the the whole you know simulating additional credits I don't think that showed up on like say console arcade boards until a couple years later.

[00:36:26] Yeah not to like I think we got true perfect boards. Yeah exactly. As for the console versions they were well received but a lot of them were kind of.

[00:36:38] A lot of them received a lot of complaints for not really adding anything compared to the arcade aside from like the updated graphics which are nice but they really don't they're not enough to justify probably. The $50 price tag this game cost of the time. Yeah yeah.

[00:36:59] Yeah keep going. Other than that I was gonna it's funny to me that like. Certain like next generation hated the 3DOS where because like every work they gave it to out of five stars which I'm like. Okay sure.

[00:37:13] Honestly that's probably what I'd give it I'd be like yeah it's a nice port but once you make this a home console game you're going to kind of judge it on a different basis. Yeah. It's that last generation seems to always give the 3DOS reviews bad reviews but.

[00:37:28] It's been like it man. From Oxford didn't even review the 3DOS version so. That's fine that's fine. CD player gave it a 6 out of 10 on both PlayStation and 3DOS. Love that love that.

[00:37:43] So so my my question with this game is that it's a name come made game where you're in a plain shooting shit right. Do you think potentially the team that worked on this or a couple guys who worked on this maybe went on to make ace combat.

[00:38:01] It is possible. They're very different games but it just wouldn't surprise me if say some of the star blade devs like the idea of making a flying game.

[00:38:14] But probably recognize that oh when it comes to the home console it needs to be something a little bit more in depth so they went and made what became the Ace combat series.

[00:38:24] Yeah, you know I'm looking through it doesn't really say much on what the team did after but. It wouldn't surprise me which is really interesting too because if this some of this team did go on to make Ace combat in a roundabout way.

[00:38:42] That a lot of those team members later went on to make star fought assault. Hmm, because Star Fox assault I believe used a lot of the Ace combat to team. I think so yeah. Which makes sense considering when you place star fox assault it is a very.

[00:39:01] Ace combat is kind of feeling game. Yeah, and an ace combat started as if he was air combat right only America the original was Ace combat.

[00:39:11] Well there's an arcade game name come made called air combat which came out in like before the PS1 version and and who knows maybe the star blade team maybe that's what they made right after this was that arcade air combat game like that makes because that came out 93 and this star blade came out 91.

[00:39:29] So it's very possible that a lot of those guys probably crossed over into that maybe the home console version probably is a different story but. I need to let him deep dive on this now and find out because I love Ace combat.

[00:39:43] Yeah, I don't know it's just in my head. It's like that seems similar. And apparently they were going to make a sequel to Star Blade.

[00:39:52] I think back in like the early 2000s when some Japanese companies were still making arcade games but you know the arcades were just kind of not really there anymore.

[00:40:04] It was called Star Blade Operation Blue Planet and that was yeah, going to be released on the arcades at the time but it got canceled unfortunately because I guess they realize that maybe this time isn't really worth doing because I guess the board it was going to run on would have been similar to a PS2.

[00:40:23] Which I'm thinking then why not just make it for PS2 like this is the time where it's like that's the most popular system. This would have been an easy maybe like $20 30 game to just put out there and see if people like it but.

[00:40:35] Yeah, unfortunately it was probably a budgeting thing in all honesty which yeah and maybe they're like we have the Ace combat games we don't need another flying series. Yeah, and especially because Ace combat had taken off by that point.

[00:40:49] Oh, yeah, because yeah because by the PS2 they're on what Ace combat 4 I think. So 1 2 and 3, PS1 and yes 2 had 4 5 and 0. Yeah, yeah. Where is it? That was on 360. Okay, I do have Ace combat 7. That goes on sale.

[00:41:15] All the time like I think about it for like a box. I love it. I still haven't played it yet, but I hear it's a good game especially for somebody like me who has

[00:41:26] been played any of these games like it's probably not a bad spot to get in. So the Ace combat series is really funny because they actually have story lines and like they're kind of in depth in a way.

[00:41:35] Yeah, yeah, don't they straight up have like anime story lines with all about flying planes and shit? So the main series games literally they take place in their own fictional world of weird known as the world that Ace combat takes place in is literally called strange real.

[00:41:52] I love that. It is great. What's funny is though, they later tried to do a more realistic approach to Ace combat.

[00:42:00] I think it was called Ace combat combat horizon, which takes place in the real world and it's like they're good games, but they just don't have that same charm because it's like this is real. And I don't like it.

[00:42:11] Yeah, did you know that literally last week Ace combat seven got a switch port. Last time I was like, I did not know that and I'm surprised they didn't throw that same the direct.

[00:42:27] I just like, oh Ace combat scumbag to switch like that could have been an easy little like ad for it. I've been like, cool. I should play that on my Xbox.

[00:42:37] Really, really funny is I think that is the first Ace main series Ace combat game to come out on an Nintendo console. Yeah, because there was there's an Ace combat on GBA. There's Ace combat advance, which is yeah, which is fine. It's debatably main series.

[00:42:52] There was also the one on 3DS, which is a remake of two. Which I have to track down is to the one everyone likes. Two or four for as very high regard as well. Yeah, because I've seen like four shattered skies. I've seen that cover a million times.

[00:43:09] That was when I was always kind of like not into buying flying games for some reason. I don't know why. Like I love the robot squad and games. I'm surprised I never gave these a shot. Ace combat's a weird one.

[00:43:22] Because the covers are like they are so like realistic. They look like top gun. It's what they look like. Yeah, like they're kind of unassuming but then you play them. Like these are weird. They're kind of love it. Yeah, yeah.

[00:43:35] Yeah, I need to give Ace combat to have an intro. So must play okay stay away. This one I'm torn on is I don't want to say it's a must play because realistically you're going to play this game. You should play the arcade version.

[00:43:53] But I don't want to say stay away. I'm loaded on name. I'm curious to how this would play on name. I'm going to say okay but with the caveat they should probably play the arcade version. You know what? I will agree.

[00:44:09] I wasn't sure what to make of this at all. But the way you said it honestly, that feels fine. Because cognitive stay away just doesn't feel right like because it's not a little bit there. Yeah, yeah. It's just it's unfortunately not the right game for 3DO. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:44:31] So yeah. It's a game that I wonder if the PS1 version has a flight stick like like a flight stick control option for or knocks. I really feel like this game would you if it had that it would be a big help.

[00:44:48] Or even just like the analog stick making it a little bit easier to run. Yeah, well this came out I think pre dual shock. So I don't know. Fair. Yeah, that's true. I don't know.

[00:45:01] Um yeah, then that though nothing start start playing is one of those just unfortunate games. There's like it's fine but there's not a lot to say about it. The cover is cool. Yeah, it's got a fun cover. Yeah.

[00:45:17] It looks like a like a sci-fi novel from the 80s. Actually looking at it. The ship on the cover, that's the same ship in the manual. It just from behind it looks a lot more appealing than from front. Oh, you can see it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:45:34] But it doesn't look as cool to say the ships in wing commander. Oh, no, not at all. Um, it's no wing commander. I can say that. It's no wing commander. True. So we haven't we kind of toyed around with what to do for our next episode.

[00:45:50] Um, I know you said you wanted to talk about Captain Quaser. Do you have it? I don't have it but I'm willing to emulate it. Let's finally talk, Captain Quaser. Okay. I'm ready to talk about this game then. All right. Yes, so we'll talk about Captain Quaser.

[00:46:09] One of the most. I catching three to your games, I'd say. Or should we talk to Aaron to see if he's ready to do tripped? Yeah. Because I feel like Captain Quaser, I don't want to make that a short week game. You know? True. Um, yeah.

[00:46:26] Let's reach out to Aaron and see if he's down. And if not, we'll think of something. Yeah. I'll play Captain Quaser regardless and just have it. Yeah. I just don't want it to be like it's a short week kind of thing. True. True.

[00:46:43] Because this episode's going to come out pretty late. The next one is like in like four days. So yeah, and most of those days I'm working. There. Um, yeah. So we'll. Yeah, let's talk to Aaron about tripped and if not then we'll we'll figure something out.

[00:47:01] Sounds good to me. All right. But um, yeah. So anyways, guys. Thanks for joining us on 3DO. Um, you can find the 3DO experience on all the major podcasting platforms. And you can check us out over at the SuperPod Network.

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