The 3DO Experience - Episode 47: Zhadnost: The People's Party... Is Sure Something!

[00:00:00] Every week's experience there was a power of the Panasonic real 3DO system. Obviously. Presenting the 3DO, the most advanced home gaming system in the universe. It's time to prove your torrentness.

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[00:00:46] Thank you all for sticking in. I am the co-host Thrak and joying me as always is the other co-host Bill. Bill, how you doing? I'm doing. I guess it's the best way to say it. Do you have any questions? No one is watching me.

[00:01:05] Yeah, just having one of those just got back from a long weekend and the co-host network for us run by morons. Okay. Because I thought it was you enjoyed your weekend too much, your 4-day weekend or whatever.

[00:01:21] Honestly, it rained like every day and I did literally nothing the entire weekend. It kind of sucks, honestly. No. So sometimes you need to just stay inside, you know? True. It's a very true. It's just a state of mind. Yeah.

[00:01:43] How about you though, if you've been doing anything new or... Well, last week I talked about my back issues and I can safely say I went to the doctor. They prescribed me some medication and it's been helping greatly.

[00:01:57] So I've been able to actually go back to work and, you know, not be an agonizing pain all the time, which is really good. So... Yeah. And I've been doing some game trading, you know, bots up stuff, sold some stuff.

[00:02:10] And I did get this game because I'd remember it is getting de-listed very soon. I believe December 15th of this year, this game is getting de-listed. So if you have any interest in it, I recommend picking it up now. That is, forza Horizon 4.

[00:02:29] So well, Carlisence has run out, you know? Because if you go on game pass... I don't even... I think it's off-game pass now. I'd have to double-check.

[00:02:39] But that's kind of the issue with the force of series is that, you know, they're on game pass or, you know, they're available for a while, but then they disappear. Because of that.

[00:02:48] Yeah, for some reason the original Forza Horizon is backwards compatible, disk only, but yet none of the other forces are outside of the ones you can play on Xbox One in series, which is strange. But I've been playing this one a little bit.

[00:03:04] I think it's a reprinted one because it has the series X advertising on it. Because the signal coming... So the series X came out. This is came out 2018. Is that right? I believe so. Right. Yeah, and this game's very good.

[00:03:20] It's taken a lot for me to not just play this. You know, it's very good. It'll be a game I keep popping in and playing a little bit more of here and there. I finished up the Powerwash DLC. There was another Powerwash DLC about Allison Wonderland.

[00:03:40] Which, you know, kind of out there but not a bad choice. I enjoyed the maps and, you know, the kind of more creative nature of them. And they didn't last ridiculously long because I think one of the issues say some of the previous DLC's had was,

[00:03:55] it would just be too long or it'd like to be too detailed in certain things that you'd have to wash and... And you strike a fine line in that game of wanting things to, you know, clean and take a fair amount of time.

[00:04:10] But if it goes too long, it gets kind of annoying. But the Alice one, like when I finished it last night, I was like, oh shit, it's done. Nice. So yeah. So now I'm at like almost 120 hours in that game.

[00:04:26] It's like me and a person afford play through. Yeah. And I even have like, like over half of the achievements. So nice. A lot of them are a lot of them are very easy to get. There's a few that are really...

[00:04:44] If I had known them when I first did the job because some of them are like, oh clean this very specific thing last. It's like, how do I know that when I first did the play through? I would've saved it and probably have had more of them but

[00:04:56] I don't feel like going back and getting them. That's understandable. Yeah. So that's in store working on do maternal. So I'm at the part where they're like, oh this is the last time you can go to your little ship before you do the final thing.

[00:05:12] So I'm in that final stretch now. So hopefully I'll have that done by this week because I also got to hit the DLCs and all that. So if you can play anything, Billy. A little bit.

[00:05:26] So I've been actually in the process of writing an article for the Superpot Network and I've been playing a lot of Atlas games lately. Aren't you always playing Atlas games? I'm playing one particular Atlas game a lot. Okay.

[00:05:41] But when we're doing, we're doing some lists basically doing our top five Atlas games. If anyone knows me, my number one is pretty obvious but um. Yeah. I've been... No, no, no. It's um. Catherine's a good game.

[00:05:57] No, I know it's not in my top five but I do love Catherine. A particular I really like full body. Um. I've actually I've been playing a lot of the trauma center series again. One of the answers is that's a good fucking series of games.

[00:06:10] It's like Atlas is like forgotten like GM that like. It was so big and unfortunately technology just kind of left it behind. It was perfect for the Wii and DS era. And it's one of those series you think how could they do it again?

[00:06:25] I mean, they could be on PC of course. But for any other console, it would be difficult to transition those over to like a traditional control. I was actually thinking about it and it would suck because you'd have to buy one of the damn things to play it.

[00:06:42] But I actually feel like a VR it would actually work as a good VR game. Yeah, it would but I don't think Atlas is willing to divulge assets for a AVR game which is kind of a big issue with the VR industry in general.

[00:06:59] I think the plus to trauma center too was like they weren't really expensive games to make. It was like you didn't need like the most insane graphics for like what they were doing in those games.

[00:07:09] Like the Wii could was perfectly capable and like 50% of the game is visual novel anyways. So it's like yeah, yeah, to visual novel with like essentially surgery mini games. Yeah, it's like an arcade surgery simulation series. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like time crisis with a with a scalpel.

[00:07:28] Trauma team though that was like by far like the best ones. That's where they went like all out and they had like all the different medical like fields that you could do. It was basically like Sonic Adventure if it was a surgery game.

[00:07:41] You got the five different stories and they all come together at the end for this bigger story. It's an interesting way of putting it but it's kind of the same.

[00:07:50] Yeah, I think the most I played was the DS one under the knife because that game will that style is perfect for the DS. And as far as I know, it never got a 3DS like upgrade.

[00:08:05] So trauma center under the knife did get re made as trauma center second opinion on the Wii.

[00:08:12] Yeah, under the night 2 did not it's also kind of weird because like under the knife 2 is a direct sequel to the final chapter of under the knife 1 which was completely erased in second opinion. But then like trauma team uses elements from second opinion.

[00:08:30] I don't know, Atlas is weird. Yes, they are and they're at a spot where I don't think they can like create different teams to do all these types of games because if they were to bring back trauma center, I think people would want it to have more production.

[00:08:47] And I think part of the charm of it is it doesn't have a lot of production. Like it has just enough to get its point across but it's not a super expensive game.

[00:08:58] I'll always remember trauma trauma center as the series that legit has a point in one of the cases where suicidal girl literally gets told by the nurse to just kill herself. That is like, oh, this is a wonderful game. That sounds like an Atlas move.

[00:09:12] Yeah, it's just like such a like okay then. She wasn't actually suicidal. She just had a zombie cancer or whatever the hell the fuck you'll do whenever it was called. I find a nickel forever time I've had zombie cancer.

[00:09:27] So and yet in the creator of the trauma center series, Katsura Hashino. I think I said that right. They're currently directing the next major Atlas game metaphor, Reef and Tazio. That's cool. I'm looking forward to that. It looks pretty interesting.

[00:09:44] I am curious to it. It's not going to be a day one by for me, most likely not.

[00:09:49] I mean, in October, we'll see where things are in October but I will be curious to all of your your guys' opinions because I trust yours when it comes to RPGs. I mean, it looks really cool, but you know, I have a feeling it's going to be.

[00:10:08] I'm not going to create a very big demand for me. Oh, I don't think it's going to be like an SMT really hard game, but I don't think it's going to be a persona where you have to spend dozens of hours just chatting with people about bullshit.

[00:10:33] So it's, so I mean, who knows it might actually be the game for me. But we'll see. Or it'll be another Tokyo Mara session and some feel like what is this? I like Tokyo Mara, she said. Oh no, it's a great game. Come on. It's a great game.

[00:10:48] It's just not what they what we thought it was going to be hit all. Well, I think a lot of people there it is for you, the switch root. I think a lot of people, well, it was originally what SMT Cross Fire Emblem.

[00:10:59] Yeah, and it thought it was going to be a good game. Yeah, because that idea sparks a lot of interesting ideas. Apparently at least they made a tactical game at first and then they presented it to intelligent systems and intelligent systems said, and make a turn-based game.

[00:11:17] Intelligence intelligence systems bothers the fuck out of me sometimes. They make some of my favorite games, but then he also makes some of the dumbest fucking decisions. Yeah, I think a lot of that comes down to them not being owned by an intent

[00:11:32] so they're allowed to make very weird decisions and be okay. I would love it for one day, they just made a random like PlayStation X-Box PC game. And it would confuse everybody because they're like, wait a minute. Doesn't Nintendo own them, but it's like technically no.

[00:11:52] I don't think they they deck technically don't, but they I think they have an exclusivity deal or something because there's some thing Nintendo does invest into them kind of like the rare situation. That it's probably what it is, like a second party developer.

[00:12:07] Yeah, it's probably it was probably similar to how like Alpha Dream was basically an Nintendo studio. Yeah, and then looking at Alpha Dreams catalog, they have made like non-inpendos stuff. But it was like few and far between.

[00:12:23] Yeah, I mean everything they've done is really stunned into systems, but they've done like puzzle league games. They've done they did the Dragon Quest Wars DSI work game, which to me know it's sense to me to adventure, which is like, well, I made adventure.

[00:12:38] I wish that got localized, just damn that's such an interesting game. Yeah, and like stuff like crash mode and push the push most series. Yeah, push mode is great. And apparently they did do the thousand year door remake from what I know. Oh, intelligence.

[00:12:56] I thought we were talking about Alpha Dream for a minute. No, no intelligence systems did the remake of thousand year door with Tose help in them out. So, which honestly makes sense because what I've played of the thousand year door remake, I'm like, this feels intelligent systems.

[00:13:11] Pardon me, wonders if Tose did most of the heavy lifting like all the code and stuff and then like, tell the system just kind of looked at it and went, yep, that. Are they probably like took the origami king assets and maybe like retooled them slightly?

[00:13:26] Hmm, so that is it is so weird playing that game because it is like legitimately almost identical. But it still feels different at the same time. Yeah, it's very impressive. Is a fantastic remake. I wonder 100%.

[00:13:41] Um, but yeah, this so should we jump into our game for say for this episode? I, it is a game. But it is, I mean to quote the back of the box, this is party game. Yes.

[00:14:03] In fact, I kind of want to read some of these blurbs on the back of the box. For Zadnost, the people's party. So this is party game. Now is time to play new television game show. This is best show on Bizarre and State Run television.

[00:14:19] The humor is good. Deep into secret lives of contestants help them fulfill their secret desires. Experience fast pace had the head challenges in unique gameplay unlike any other game on black market. This is excellent activity for cold winter nights.

[00:14:32] Pressure your opponent into difficult tasks, rush to solve puzzles faster, and demonstrate your bourgeois intellect and win capitalist cash. Step carefully to acquire wealth on the money go around, tie a vicious with the money go around. Also good opportunity to screw comrades, good lucks.

[00:14:49] And that reads like, you know, you know, that bit from the office where Kevin's trying to be like, me say if you were word, save time. Yeah. Essentially what this is.

[00:14:58] This is, this game is really trying, I can't tell if this is like a making fun of communism or it's just like I don't know, 3D was on some weird shit with this game. This is like comparable to Bioshock in terms of its like political commentary.

[00:15:16] And I don't mean in terms of like it's as good political commentary. Though I think Bioshock has good political commentary, but which is a whole no matter how topic. But it in terms of like who is this going after?

[00:15:28] Because I think the original Bioshock does a good job of like you think it's, you know, critiquing this when really it's critiquing this, you know, it kind of does the switcher rule on you. But this doesn't do that. This isn't that smart.

[00:15:42] No instead it's a it's it's clearly an idea like I bet somebody on the team read 1984 and was like guys crazy idea and they made this. That's what it feels like because the the sort of like socialist communist stuff that they

[00:16:07] reference here is very like George Orwell inspired. Like if you've seen the movie adaptation in 1984, which came out in that same year, it has that kind of visual look to it, you know.

[00:16:20] But but it doesn't really go anywhere, you know, and that's kind of like the issue with it. Even if it's satire, it's not clearly defined like satire. You know, like is this making fun of game shows? Or is this just like oh isn't this silly

[00:16:39] that a socialist nation would have a capitalist style game show within it? Like what are you trying to say, you know, but then it's the whole like socialism is when poor, which they're not going

[00:16:50] there. I'm not we're not doing that today. But instead, we get this very strange game show that is the third in a trilogy as we've mentioned before. We've covered twisted. We've covered station

[00:17:03] invasion and now we've we've reached the return of the Jedi of the series of the weakest of the three in my opinion where visually it's very strong. It's very striking. It has kind of a consistent

[00:17:19] visual look. And it's trying to be different from the other two, which I think is smart. But it ends up not being a super fun game show and is just like just it's just strange. It's like I guess it's

[00:17:37] like if you've ever watched somebody trip on acid, you know, it's you're you're just very confused, right? And they come out of it like dude always crazy should happen and you're like well that

[00:17:48] didn't happen to me. So you don't have that like like probably the people who made this game were like do this going to be fucking cool and it just it doesn't really come together.

[00:18:00] No, like twisted had a charm to it that like despite being somewhat of a kind of one and done party game, it still had this kind of thing where like the whole time you're playing like this is fun.

[00:18:14] I kind of enjoy this. I think twisted is so over the top and so outlandish that that's what gives it its charm that it's not holding back at all. It's like let's just be the most crazy out there humor

[00:18:29] over the top surrealist bullshit we can do, right? Like I think like 90 surrealism. And then like station invasion had that like that child children taking over TV show and it was fun. Educational they well. Yeah, it felt like if you've ever watched

[00:18:50] the like the game shows Nickelodeon used to put on in the 90s like figure it out or something and has kind of that energy to it. Whereas this doesn't really carry that through you know what I mean

[00:19:03] because even like the games which are very minimal they're not related to the theme or kind of play into it or anything and I mean game itself doesn't really play into it because you need to people

[00:19:16] to play this. Yeah, that's play this solo. One thing that bothered the hell out of me in this game is it forces you to have so twisted like despite being a multiplayer game it was like a one controller

[00:19:30] pass around game which was annoying but fine whatever this one requires you to have a second controller plugged in. But then at the same time like third and actions for the second player can

[00:19:41] still be done on the player one controller for some reason. See I didn't I didn't notice that part because I literally had both controllers sitting on my legs. See I didn't do but I would like this

[00:19:52] like it was like a keyboard man. I would grab the wrong one occasionally and press the button and it would work and I'd like okay because I believe like the wheel later on like you can literally

[00:20:01] use whatever controller and it just works. I never tried that so yeah it was just it was kind me shuffling because I had legit both controllers at once I forget which one was which and I just

[00:20:12] grabbed one and I'd feel like oh it worked cool. See what helped for me was the only other controller I have is the Capcom fighting pad so I knew which was which true. I mean I'll I had the gold star in

[00:20:25] the Panasonic and I still mixed them up but then I just be because I was tired and it wasn't really paying attention. It's I feel like a lot of the people who made this game weren't paying attention.

[00:20:36] Yeah. There's an official state authorized users manual. Yeah and we get introduced to our well actually first things first I want to ask what do you think of that opening like cinematic with like the

[00:20:50] please stand by and then the fucking credits it's like it was like what in it's like and it's like flipping through like channel 65,420 65,420 channel zero and that like one dude I think it's this guy

[00:21:06] doesn't even he's only in the intro and he's like a jump scare when you turn the fucking game on oh yeah his fucking face which I put in the thumbnail for this episode. Yeah like and he just asks

[00:21:18] you a question about like you know what is Erie asked like this guy like what is the state authorized usage of harvesting what like habagers or something and the guy just says I'm not at liberty

[00:21:28] to say and he's like correct again it's like I don't quite understand because there's like the before used the 3DO system capitalists lawyers wrote this stuff like this is this is so it's very 90s like

[00:21:45] this feels very like high school level humor like just learning like what like authoritarian communism really is when it's like there's clearly no actual nuance political commentary here because the the difference between communism and capitalism is literally on the level that I learned

[00:22:04] to my government class in high school where it's like a not to get too deep but if you actually read about the differences between the two you there's a lot more nuance there you know

[00:22:14] it's it's not what the American government wants you to think anyways so we have so we go into that and then we have our random ass host and spokesmodel you know our state parking white our announcer with he has no photo just surveillance photo not available

[00:22:33] and his name is Ray Tolstoy yes what a fucking reference there yeah the host Bob Blini he is no twink I thought in the same of these games this probably has the least memorable cast when it

[00:22:52] comes to the game show part you know like the host has like the like they're telling him to be zany but he just doesn't have it in his bones so it just it just comes off as like your dad

[00:23:05] trying to be hip you know it just says and the spokes and the lady you see her what maybe twice yeah she's in the dusty roads polka dots see um she doesn't do anything because in twisted like

[00:23:19] you had twink who was just on fricking crack the entire game and it was great yeah and then his I forget the name of his female assistant but like she would like do like blow raspberry

[00:23:28] is that you whenever you fucked up yeah yeah like they would always make sure to cut to her whenever twink was was saying something to the player they would always cut to her so that she had her

[00:23:40] screen time as well whereas uh mascha like I barely remember her she was just there to be fan service capitalist I candy because you know socialism is when no one hot yeah this cast is uh

[00:24:00] I will say the cast of like player characters I kind of like I'm actually I think they're kind of like their dickles you have the one guy who's like trying to be a poly like an American politician

[00:24:15] and he does yeah to say he needs like oh this is a nice country it'd be a shame if something happened to it and then he does like the blessing trying to be a talian but trying to be

[00:24:25] American Italian he does the classic holding the puppy and he's like let's be shame if something happened to this sweet puppy there's something like that like that was good that was on point

[00:24:35] we have Dr. Graschenko rubble uh just straight up gets kidnapped and just thrown into the game which is kind of funny yeah that's pretty funny uh Lude Miller who is like the the lady on the

[00:24:48] state rugby team I believe that's her right there yeah and I think they do the whole like oh she might be a man I think they play into that but yeah a little um not gonna tell you kind of kind

[00:25:00] of it it's it's dumb but this game is dumb and then we have a vana who is the um the the cellist who wants to be like a rock and roll star as I said the bill in our private chat she could

[00:25:15] get it uh and they were too as um they asked us not to print her age and this specifically says 23 years old yeah yeah let me read her bio because I want to read it a vana asked us not to print her age 23 years

[00:25:27] and not to mention her nervous breakdown drug habit or brother and jail instead she wanted us to list her influences stone temple pilots skinny puppy in shot A if she wins the first place she's

[00:25:40] going to visit in America with a K is New York offices of MTV I've heard of one of those bands well well we all know stone temple pilots uh I think skinny puppy is a real band

[00:25:56] there uh like I'm thinking of sick puppies yeah well shot A is a she's a I'm sure you've heard like smooth operator she's like a like an oh yeah female like sophisticated pop kind of soul singer

[00:26:10] like she's got an amazingly gorgeous voice and her records are fantastic I'm a bit of a shot A fan she's genuinely like fantastic um how I discovered her will do a little sidetrack how I discovered

[00:26:22] was um on the first MF doom record doomsday like the very first track samples one of her songs and it samples a very specific kind of weird spot like near the end of the track that he did

[00:26:38] which was her song called kiss a life and kind of reduzz the vocal hook over it as well and it's really fucking cool and then when I went back to actually listen to the where the sample

[00:26:49] originated from I'm like that's an amazing song and that whole record uh this is called Love Deluxe is a fantastic record you all should listen to that it's a great record so anyway yeah

[00:27:01] shot A she's great and yes skinny puppy let me let me goop of them real quick a Canadian electro industrial band formed in Vancouver in 1982 the group was among the founders of the industrial rock and electro industrial genres thanks Wikipedia so this probably a band that's like

[00:27:22] like music nerds like myself would know but if you like but they're probably like really influential on other bands yeah but then they just get overshadowed by nightage nails because every industrial band gets overshadowed by nightage nails yeah I mean that's kind of the

[00:27:38] the issue with being like an innovator and being ahead of your time is that people are going to kind of forget about you yeah because you're laying the foundation that uh everybody kind

[00:27:49] of drives on you know um and for some reason there were capacias to go on tomobay torture allegations I'm like what uh and real quick it has like two senses skinny puppy accused the US military of using

[00:28:02] their music to torture inmates at the go on tomobay detention camp without the bands knowledge or permission in response the bands said an invoice to the Pentagon that's interesting already I have a lot of respect for them they're great that's like that's up there with like

[00:28:21] just random footnotes and bands history that's up there with like the Dave Matthews band Chicago's little lady disaster yeah I unfortunately do but if one of these video games references Dave Matthews band will talk about it them yeah yeah yeah this is yeah

[00:28:44] they're cool I'm actually check out their music anyways that our last character is Colonel Ivan corporate to kin uh this is is this the guy wants to be Elvis I think so he did not make it into my

[00:29:01] playthrough I used everyone else but him okay yeah I think I think he was like he was like the Elvis impersonator because it references like Las Vegas and like just wanting to like

[00:29:12] kind of soak in all of the like Americanisms I guess um yeah and he was just like doing Elvis stuff yeah I thought which I thought was honestly it made me laugh because I thought it was really

[00:29:28] it was okay like I like the characters they're they're not as insane and memorable as like twisted because twisted literally had a pez dispenser as a character that's true but like twisted like those characters are so off the fucking wall and when you're playing the game they're

[00:29:47] really just like mean mugging the camera and screaming at you that like it doesn't leave as good of an impression as it could say with these characters because it feels like the contestants here actually have like personalities even if they're not like you know deep

[00:30:04] there's like enough there to hook you for like a game show you know true the thing with these ones is they don't really do anything when they're on screen until it's like an actual full

[00:30:14] motion cutscene dedicated to them yeah otherwise they're just dancing yeah because like I always remember like in twisted like when you were on the the uh that's character select screen you had the

[00:30:25] mall on the background pick me pick me like oh yeah that that was good yeah pick me pick me pick me yeah that's so was good and they had all sorts of bizarre just like quirks to them which

[00:30:37] honestly fit a game called twisted more than I'd say this but these guys I did enjoy the full motion video in this game is pretty good like the way they seamlessly transition it between graphics per se yeah yeah it feels like the the production value on these

[00:30:54] f of e game shows has increased over the three so this one it feels like the graphics are like better quality and it feels like the art style is trying to be much more defined

[00:31:06] and it doesn't look as green screened as the previous two I mean it still is but it doesn't look as like kind of like you in in in that regard compared to the other two so getting into the

[00:31:22] game play now this I'm not gonna lie it took me a few rounds to kind of figure out exactly what was going on yeah so I think how it works is like when the contestant it's their pick they get presented

[00:31:40] three circles that have numbers revolving right and you have to push the button and then with those three numbers add up to is the points for that round and then another player gets thrown

[00:31:53] in to like this weird like I think it's a 4x4 grid yeah it's one of the two and one of the characters controls the x axis and one controls the white axis so it's a 4x4 I think yeah looks 4x4 yeah so like

[00:32:14] the the contestant who picked the points is controlling the x axis and then the next one is the y axis and so you're trying to like pinpoint a spot on the grid for like either contestant can

[00:32:27] get like an instant when of the points which is if you want to breeze through the game which I thought was a bad bad thing the first couple rounds because I didn't check what these actually meant so I

[00:32:36] avoided that I think the first couple rounds and then after I tried all the minigames of like what is the face do it's like you win I'm like oh I could have just cheesed the fuck out of this could

[00:32:44] it's how you breeze through the game yeah and then and then outside of that you can choose from your four different minigames which are unscrambleing the picture which I remember from twist yeah

[00:32:56] like the little film clip there's a memory matching game just like twisted there's a guess the sound like an audio memory nurse which is also in twisted where it's like the president's heads

[00:33:14] yes and then there's the what was that was it propaganda so there was propaganda which is literally just communist trivia yeah which was actually of all the the minigames was the one that wasn't

[00:33:29] recycled because literally all the others were from the other games there's the one with the gears the gears in the hammer cycles which I still I still could not figure out how you're I was

[00:33:40] supposed to win that yeah but like yeah but like the trivia I actually thought was interesting because they asked them like pretty weird questions the that my thing with that is that was interesting but

[00:33:51] who would know the answers to the explain this like just randomly that's fair I yeah Troika was the one with the gears max three of the kind among the pieces available yeah that one I didn't

[00:34:04] understand how worked either because you get this you get this grid of like two different kinds of like objects and they'll have like say one of them or two of them or even three of them

[00:34:16] and they would be like in various colors and it's like try to match them or whatever and I didn't understand what I was matching or whatever so I did that one once and never did it again

[00:34:31] same I did it just the suit it wasn't I was just like so I did it twice just because the I thought maybe I fucked up the first time I know the second dollar is still just as confused

[00:34:39] um I did lip service once and I was like this is just a it's a matching game but it's annoying so I'm only doing it once yeah and that one is from twisted as is the i-spy which is just like

[00:34:54] a memory matching game like both of them are the exact same but in twisted they were way more charming like and the president's one twisted I stood out in the screen when you pick both the presidents they

[00:35:05] all of a sudden get like the deal with the shades like before that was even a meme yeah yeah yeah that was that was like weirdly a 90s meme like thrown on the shades you know

[00:35:16] yeah um and yeah so like yeah trorica and propaganda were the two unique ones for this because the the unscrambleing the pictures also from twisted and here it's called Yankee

[00:35:28] huge cinema yeah I mean that that's a breeze because all you have to do is make the uh hate it yeah all you have to do is just do the edge and then the center is easy enough oh yeah like

[00:35:41] it's not even scrambled at all yeah the i-spy pictures were somewhat interesting like there was like they were just bizarre like some of the choices for photos I was like this is weird

[00:35:58] sorry I was reading something in the manual capitalist agitators just good god yeah because there's a part in here that says the department of memory is occupied i was like what and then it's talking

[00:36:16] about like oh you know you you might need to delete save games to fill up in the 3DO and it says it says oh yeah to do this use your systems built-in storage manager utility or use one of the

[00:36:29] utilities on a 3DO interactive sampler CD so it advertises memory management but it itself does not have a memory manager yeah it's like if you have an FC1 get fucked basically oh did you also notice how when you start the game they're like we're going to go over

[00:36:49] the rules for the game and then they just kind of skip it and they're like and that is the rules for the game and I'm just like yeah yeah yeah it's like the the home improvement SNS game real

[00:36:59] bend-o need instructions yeah i will say the grid in multiplayer i feel like that actually would be kind of fun like you're just fighting with the other player over what you're going to get yeah

[00:37:11] I agree especially if you tell the other person like hey if you land on that one you'll just get the points and then they'll try to like fight you on it you know that yeah that would be interesting

[00:37:21] this is definitely a game that we both played alone in our rooms with two controllers like fucking losers right so to actually play this with other people it probably is a stronger experience

[00:37:34] you know and also it'd be curious to how it would work for the money go around which is at the end of every round you have that weird circular grid there's the picture of it for the the visual

[00:37:46] watchers and so for the audio listeners it's like this weird like circle that has various steps on it and you have to go on them to get more money so basically if you step on say if you're the first

[00:38:00] contestant you step on a white one and it turns green you get the money but of course if you step on it again the green goes away someone says yeah this is like a weird complicated cubber

[00:38:11] yeah and like if you step on someone else's money it goes away and then but you don't get the money which is interesting you have to step on another space yes well you could sabotage the other

[00:38:21] player as well it's very weird and like in the direct center is like straight like a black hole or something and I guess if you fall in it you get another chance yes so the way it works is because

[00:38:34] it I did this a couple rounds because I actually did find this somewhat fascinating especially and basically this is another case of like this would would be so much more interesting if you had four

[00:38:44] players yeah basically the way it were I found is like that score you get by doing the three years thing at the start of every round that is actually the time that you're going to get to do this

[00:38:55] mini game so like the higher the number you build up the more time you get inherently to do this because when you're on the on the money go around you have a countdown timer so like it once the time

[00:39:06] reaches zero that's it you can't be any more rounds yeah and so the points are essentially just giving you extra seconds yeah because you get 30 seconds at the start like regardless but then

[00:39:16] any extra points you accumulated during the gameplay and also the only way you to keep your points are you have to win the mini games because if you lose the mini games you don't get the points

[00:39:27] exactly so like as a game show it has like a decent setup at least like how it's structured like isn't bad but I just think it's just not very well executed yeah I mean I like I think the the money go around and the the grid thing

[00:39:50] at yeah as themselves they're kind of boring but when you actually have four players I feel like those could be really interesting and very like heated like if you have a group game going on

[00:40:00] like I think like I think a way to improve the grid would be instead of having direct control over it it's just like moving and you have to like push a button to stop it like either slowly or like

[00:40:10] right on a dime to try to like time where you want it to go like say both players are doing it at the same time so it's like a weird kind of like timing mini game to create more like a random kind of

[00:40:22] challenge to it so there's no cheesing in it you know what I mean yeah yeah and it's weird too because like the game doesn't have like this like it doesn't have like an end game mode like the

[00:40:37] other ones did it just kind of like once the rounds are over you just it has three rounds and then that's it yeah like like the first two rounds the money go around spots are a thousand and then the last one

[00:40:49] it's 1500 for some reason yeah and then that's it very underwhelming like I feel like this one was kind of rushed a lot of ways yeah well it feels like for all these games the issue was they weren't

[00:41:07] really focusing on the game aspect being something like kind of memorable and replayable I think they were just hoping it would be strange and outlandish enough for people to want to stick with it

[00:41:18] and be like oh isn't this like this is so crazy I can't stop watching you know they're hoping that would kind of draw them in but that only really works when you're not participating in it because

[00:41:29] when you're participating in it that's when the flaws really show up yeah it's also the quickest of the the three uh hardy games on 3Dio because like twisted and staging a vision can drag like

[00:41:44] for a while but they're at least in twisted space it's always entertaining just because there's fucking insanity always going on uh station invasion once you get to end game it's kind of like

[00:41:54] will it end already put um this one just kind of ends and you're like oh hmm yeah there's just a lot of stuff going on and it's but unfortunately I think for me I don't know for you it's probably

[00:42:12] of the game show games it's probably the worst one yeah honestly like I feel like we were a bit harsh on station invasion when we covered that I mean we honestly I would I think I bump our

[00:42:25] rating for uh twisted up honestly because like we both said okay for twisted yeah I still stand by that maybe in okay plus but um but compared to like the other two twisted is easily the best

[00:42:40] just because I think it's the most interesting from a gameplay perspective it has enough random elements in it to be uh to be kind of replayable you know um like none of these are Mario

[00:42:54] party but it feels like twisted is like the closest it comes to that you know because what makes Mario Party works so well is that yeah it's it can be skill-based but it has just enough random

[00:43:08] elements to it to like cause the stir that it can cause and keep people wanting to go at it because it's not like a finding game like once you're good at it you're good at it you know like Mario

[00:43:20] party I mean you can get good at the mini games but that only takes you so far you know whereas these games they don't have that kind of skill attached to them like maybe a teeny bit but but twisted

[00:43:34] is closest to the random elements of it being something kind of an entertaining overall they're two the other ones and I don't know station invasion it might be more appealing to like

[00:43:45] to a very particular audience you know like like kids who are like this the same ages these kids at that time but we can't relive that obviously so from our perspective it was just kind of

[00:44:01] lame dude yeah I think the most entertaining part of station invasion was like what's that smell like oh yeah yeah because I think we went on a like a deep-dud trying to find that kid

[00:44:15] on the internet that's right we did and we did find them we found someone who we think is him we never do it I'm pretty sure it's him because the pictures I saw look the exact same

[00:44:26] oh man also fun I just noticed the final page of the manual is like the staff that worked on the game and they're close to him. I'm staring at it yet surveillance photo of

[00:44:37] capitalist agitators so shots out to these socialists here. I mean if they're working I mean if they're working in the games industry there's a chance they're left leaving. The girl in the front

[00:44:50] looks like she does not want to be there and I kind of like that but she's like she's like I don't do this I'm pretty sure that's the staff of studio 3D alright there too which make would make

[00:45:01] oh yeah absolutely yeah and yes kids even girls worked on games back in the 90s. yep yes they did this is what they have to show for it. yes they not he not king's quest this. No that that was another lady who had a much more successful career.

[00:45:24] yeah shots after her I forget her name. Oh, report that. That's right. Reperto Williams. Her and her fucking moon logic puzzles anyways. And she posted nude on the cover of soft porn adventure. Good for her you know show your stuff off I guess.

[00:45:44] Yeah I was looking through the credits to see if there was anything that really stuck out and I didn't really see anything. I will say the there's a character called Sitcom wife

[00:45:56] that has the same last name as the director of the game. Einstein and my first thought is oh is that like his wife and maybe yeah because she also she's a special thanks on her twisted as

[00:46:10] well because this game was directed and designed by one gemine scene who has a surprisingly a deep gameography on movie games he has credits on like over 50 games and a lot of it's like transformers stuff and like the 360 battleship game do you remember that game?

[00:46:33] Yeah the game where it was almost like it's based off of the movie battleship maybe they could do like a greedy version of the tabletop game notes just some generic FPS. Yeah exactly but he

[00:46:44] had directed and designed he yeah I directed Zadnos people's party and twisted so he is involved in both of those. I don't think he was involved in club 3d0 at least according to what I've seen here

[00:46:58] he didn't even get a credit on that. I think club 3d0 was technically a different team within studio 3d0. There's station invasions are yeah. Yeah. A problem it probably was because it definitely

[00:47:11] sticks out the most because this I can see the direct connection to twisted whereas I think station invasion is very different. So reception wise for this game it's pretty mixed like edge magazine gave it a 3x10 game pro 17.5 out of 20 next generation restars 3d0 magazine didn't

[00:47:37] like it that much they gave it 3 stars. A lot of 70s like couple full like strana ijr or ijr gave it 4 out of 10. Yeah not the most the general consensus was it makes a great

[00:47:57] party game but where's thin too quickly which is to me does that really make a great party game? Yeah not really apparently it's a soundtrack out released commercially. Oh yeah we didn't really talk about the music it's it's fine. It's 90s rock music.

[00:48:16] Yeah it really is like it sounds like incidental music you'd hear in like a like a sitcom from that time where it's like kids have an apparty man or like that kind of shit you know.

[00:48:31] Apparently it's the same guy that did like the seventh guest oh he did wink a mander the first one that's interesting. Yeah George Sanger songer? No no it is the fat man. I mean yeah his his list is pretty uh this is pretty prolific like

[00:48:50] he did zombies hey my neighbors. NASCAR racing. Fuck yeah a pot pot he saves the zoo okay. Damn jams jamma Sam 3 you are what you eat from your head to your feet.

[00:49:04] Oh he did sponge fog square pants for a venge of the flying Dutchman pull that before man. Every 20 and hey hey he saved it because he worked on the intelligent limbs compilation. Oh that's cool. That is actually pretty cool.

[00:49:20] So the last credit he has is the 13th doll a fan game of the seventh guest. Oh that's kind of cool. That he has soundtrack for that. So seventh guest then come out 3DO did it?

[00:49:32] I don't think so I think that was a um what is that a CD I game? A DAW CD I Mac windows iOS OSX Linux and switch. Yeah no 3DO. God everything's on fucking switch these days um I've played the seventh guest.

[00:49:51] I honestly didn't really care for it but it's it didn't age as well as like miss. No yeah because it's in that same category as missed miss just like

[00:50:02] miss is great I fucking missed but like seventh guest is a game from that era that it's just not unique or interesting enough to really carry it. Like for its time it was probably fantastic.

[00:50:15] But by modern standards doesn't hold up and with missed like missed is such a I mean well missed did come out in 3DO so we can actually deep dive into that one but there is like a full

[00:50:29] on remake of the game now where I think it's called a real missed where you can like actually interact with the world and all that stuff which is definitely the one to get these days. It also had an infamous parody game known as Pist which is just a

[00:50:47] which has John Goodman in it of all things like it is such an interesting and we'll do anything for a bucket. Yeah I mean that was the 90s too if he was still kind of

[00:50:56] relevant yeah but yeah so must play okay stay away I mean it's pretty obvious stay away on this one. Yeah I would say stay away on it as well. Especially for the price because this unlike twisted

[00:51:12] in station invasion this is not a cheap game it's like 20 bucks. 20 bucks? 20 but I mean that's still for this I wouldn't want to pay 20 for that. No I forget what I paid for the other two.

[00:51:24] I don't think I paid that much for the other two. I'd have to check my eBay listings. I think I paid five dollars that are a retro store for station invasion like 10 bucks for a long

[00:51:33] box of twisted so yeah I'd have to like go through to see what I paid for but I don't I don't know how much held on let's see you can edit this out. Oh you know well you're saying that I actually did notice

[00:51:49] on the cover it actually does say a minimum of two controllers required. Yeah and also that dude the black and white dude on the cover he never shows up in the game does he? No he's literally just there

[00:52:01] I think for shock value. Like he's just there to be like or a brutal like you know evil Russian man but like he's as far as I know he's not in the game at all. No oh I just also noticed too on the back

[00:52:16] there's a little thing you can barely see it there but this is music produced by the fat man. That's kind of cool. The fat cat okay let's see um station invasion

[00:52:31] I paid 19 or I paid 25 84 and twisted I paid 24 88 for and well twisted was like in the long box with the manual and everything um and the station invasion was the uh the jewel case with the manual

[00:52:50] and then for this one what I paid for this one. I I didn't I didn't get that when I walked up by a I paid 30 oh eight. Yeah so it is still the most expensive of the bunch yeah that's more

[00:53:07] I'd pay for it because this is not not a great game it's it's shocking and somewhat interesting at glad but once you actually play it you realize it's a very aspect and honestly unremarkable

[00:53:23] party game. Yeah I'd say if you want any of the 3DO games show games just go for twisted like twisted play through that once or twice have a good laugh and then you can just move on.

[00:53:37] Yeah and I mean twisted at least to like you have the benefit of like see you miraculously have four controllers and four friends that want to play that game. I think you can have a nice

[00:53:48] entertaining party just watching people's reactions to like what the fuck is going on. Well when we eventually do the super pod meet up we should make two two of them play this with us.

[00:53:58] I'll just bring a 3DO and yeah in a twist like an a god damn backpack maybe great. Yeah oh boy but um yes so I think next week we had said we were going to try to do starblade.

[00:54:14] Yeah let's do starblade okay I'm an interesting Japanese made game I think that's the first one we've done on the shows so far. I think so yeah because there is some some Japanese games on here but you know the 3DO has a weird and fascination in Japan.

[00:54:33] Yes it does and I'm actually looking forward to checking out some of the more Japan exclusive games at some point. That would be good and yeah why I'm interested in starblade for the visual viewers of the show. It's this right here.

[00:54:53] It says Namco and I do like me some Namco so before they became Bamco I don't mind Bamco. I'm a tailspan so I have a deep vindetta against Bamco. I'm a Klo no a fan you think I'd hate him even more.

[00:55:11] Yeah but they don't like Klo no is like they at least try with Klo no like the tail series is like they don't even give a shit and then they're just like why don't people like it?

[00:55:22] Well hey maybe they'll finally do that tails of a mystery make and then it'll wreck it'll solve all the problems. And then mean crystal video moments that buy it. Honestly I'd buy it on your guys' recommendation one.

[00:55:36] But yeah speaking of Chris we should also remember to shout out all of our great friends over at the SuperPod network let's see if I can remember it will this time we got obviously we got the SuperPod saga Super Ghost Radio Retro Rehab,

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