The 3DO Experience - Episode 24: Comparing The Panasonic FZ-1 And FZ-10!

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[00:00:41] Hello everybody, and welcome back to the 3DO Experience, the 3DO Retrospective podcast where we talk about the 3DO company, the console and everything in between. I'm Bill and this is Thrak, how you doing Thrak? Oh hello Bill, I am doing just grand.

[00:00:53] It was snowing today, but it's not warm enough to stick to the ground. Nothing crazy and it turns to the 50s I think around here. But it's going all right. I started infinite wealth, like a Dragon infinite wealth, having a great time with it.

[00:01:13] I'm probably going to be in chapter 3 for a while because it's when the map opens up. Yep. And then that's when you can explore and do all that fun stuff. I'm all committed. I miss the e-chee bond. How are you doing? I'm doing pretty good.

[00:01:29] I started my yearly playthrough of a person before recently. Yeah, so that. Up through the opening and then I was like, that during the hell out of me, I'll get back to it later. I feel like it's clockwork for you at this point. That's the thing.

[00:01:45] It's like at this point now, I just understand that opening. That opening is like the one flying what I consider in your perfect game. Because it's opening. It's opening for fours just so slow. And especially when you've already done it, like, god, like 13 times now at this point.

[00:02:03] It doesn't seem that slow to me. I don't know. Like to me, it's like, it takes a while before you get into the first battle. I feel like you got into fights like a lot quicker in like 3 and 5.

[00:02:17] But my issue with 5 is that the first 10 hours are just holding your hand. You know, like, like you can't take more than a couple steps without like a prompt coming up for like a menu or something. You know, and by the time you do all that,

[00:02:32] you do the first dungeon, right? And then the map opens up. I immediately was like, Jesus Christ, they're so fucking much to do. And I know how persona operates with you can only do like one thing. So it just overwhelm my senses.

[00:02:47] You know, but four doesn't overwhelm my senses because it's big, but it's not that big. You know, or is actually the smallest of the three, believe you're not? I'll take your word for it. Because three is pretty big, like in terms of size, like four,

[00:03:02] they really kind of think a lot of it had to do with budget constraints because four had a much smaller budget than three apparently. But four is really just in a, I mean, they added more for golden, like they added a few extra areas,

[00:03:16] but for the most part, four is not the biggest map out there. The dungeons are pretty good. Are we're most of the sizes? Oh yeah, that procedurally generated stuff. Yeah, which is all good, you know,

[00:03:29] for so to four, like the intro may be a little bit on the slow side, but once you're in, you're in. Like, oh yeah, once I think it's one, like two hours or something. Once you get to you keep those dungeon and it's, it's, except right there.

[00:03:42] You go right, yeah, then you cruise in. Because my own, you only have the mopeads yet, and you're cruising. I love that scenery. You get the mopeads and then congies like, hey, let's go down to the mall and try to pick up chicks and,

[00:03:56] and it just totally doesn't work and it's so funny. Yeah, that was one of the added scenes for golden. That's not in the original. So good, so good. And yeah, it's fitting since Persona 3, where your mic is coming out soon. Which lens me to ask, I'm curious.

[00:04:14] Do you think they'll ever remake Persona 4 in this style? If 3 does well enough, I don't see why it not. Okay. It would seem weird to have it be like the one that's not in that style. True, especially because 4 is very popular.

[00:04:31] Yeah, now if they've remade vanilla for and not golden, I'd find that really confusing just because golden's just better in every way. I don't think they would. You know, it's like how when people talk about Persona 5, these days, they're probably referring to royal, but they don't say.

[00:04:45] And when people say Persona 4, you just assume they're referring to golden, not base Persona 4. You know, yeah, there's not a lot of people that have most of the people that have played for this point never actually played vanilla 4. I've never touched it.

[00:05:00] I mean, it's basically the same game. It's just missing a lot of stuff that they added in the combat systems not as refined. Yeah. Like I'm sure if I got it for like PS2 and played it or played on my PS2 emulator or whatever.

[00:05:15] It's like, yeah, it feels like the same game just doesn't at the same time. There's like it's missing stuff in the two of the voice actors are different. Which ones? Chey and Teddy. Hmm. I can't imagine those voices being different. Yeah. Aaron Fitzgerald wasn't she.

[00:05:36] She's been she a and everything except the original game and then Teddy was I forget who he is original actor as well as but on Teddy was originally David Wittenberg. Who's done a ton of stuff over the years.

[00:05:47] Yeah, he's most famous like famously he's a Kakashi in Narado. So imagine. Imagine Kakashi, yes, Teddy. And never ending supply of bear puns. Yeah. I think Sam and then. Oh, gone. No, no, please. I think Sam regles the more iconic Teddy voice at this point.

[00:06:08] So what I think of when I think of Teddy and then she is voice actor like she does not take a fucking chill pill at all. That's just kind of G.A. in general way too much energy.

[00:06:19] Yeah, other than that like all the VAs are basically the same well other than um. Congee half like basically all of congee's bonus scenes were re done by a. So Troy Baker I think got married during the production of four so he had to.

[00:06:36] Step away and I think like most of the bonus scenes were done by Matt Mercer. Who was just replacement Troy Baker for most things. I couldn't tell a difference. Yeah, they're very similar sounding voices. Cool, cool. Yeah, but that was not so far as a good game.

[00:06:55] Yeah, that's my favorites. You are the owner guy. I am not. Yeah, people tell me that sometimes. Um, yeah, then that though I've mostly just been hanging out um collecting some manga.

[00:07:10] Yeah, I still have some manga to read well because right now I'm still working through this guy last run in last run. As you can see, I'm on like issue four or five so I'm almost there and then after that I need to start bag of bond.

[00:07:29] And then after that I'm going to do slam dunk and then visit two blocks two so I got a nice I got a nice reading backlog together. So because I did because I did listen to you and Alex talk about the manga collecting.

[00:07:46] Yeah, it's weird how like she was like other than like one piece she really wasn't into collecting manga and then now she's suddenly like. One crazy for it. Speaking of one piece aren't there's three in ones like not good. Um, quality of them.

[00:08:02] Three in ones in general aren't particularly great. Especially the vis ones like they tend to be like cheaper paper quality.

[00:08:11] So I'm saying I was saying because audio listeners, I am holding the vis big for a bag of bond volume one and I got to say it's fairly nice.

[00:08:22] So the vis bigs so there's two types of three ones. There's the standard three ones which are the same size is like like standard like singles. Yeah.

[00:08:31] The vis bigs were a very short lived series of books that they did for a while there where they were basically their double the size much better paper quality. Thicker covers tons of bonus art like that. Oh, this is just the opening of volume one.

[00:08:51] Oh yeah, like they have tons of like color pages and stuff. And I love and I love the spine. Yeah. And it's like a bag of bonds because apparently they all connect together. And it's like a like a row of all the main characters.

[00:09:02] Yeah, the vis bigs always had like these nice spines like I have the full set of the any eye ones and they have like all sorts of like Remica Tachashi art on the side. Yeah.

[00:09:12] And for being one of the more like kind of paperback ones that's kind of thin. It still feels like nice and sturdy you know. They're they're heavy to like their big. Oh yeah. It's it's hefty you know.

[00:09:23] Like it doesn't feel as heavy as like the bizarre ones but the bizarre ones or those are special. And that's what I like about them when you get the deluxees they feel very special even though I have no quam about cutting the the bookmarker down. Yeah.

[00:09:40] Look, look, look, look, if for anybody who's going to get mad at me for that like the bizarre deluxees I cut it it's like look. It's a really long I don't want to tuck it into another page.

[00:09:50] I literally just trim it down to where I can just flip it in and flip it out. It's my copy for the fuck cares, right? Yeah. It's me. Okay. I still enjoy this. I still enjoy them. So I was laughing because Alex recently she picked up.

[00:10:06] Among one of the few other vis big series that they did a. Fishurji you he I think it's called. He picked up that entire series. It's like six volumes and total six six of his bigs and total.

[00:10:19] And she's like holding the ball. She's like holy fuck these things are heavy. I'm like yes, they are. Yeah, my dream I've been thinking about getting all six of the Akira. Maga but I'm like I haven't seen that movie since I was like a kid.

[00:10:34] So I I need to sound watch it again and if I remember liking it then I will go and read them all. So the manga is apparently make a difference.

[00:10:44] So well, that if from what I'm told the movie is a little bit of the first volume and a little bit of the last one. Yeah, just kind of like shut they kind of rush through it.

[00:10:54] Yeah, the whole ending apparently is completely original to the anime because it's like. That's that that that a that a bomb an action at the end there. Yeah, yeah and I didn't think I would be ever getting single volumes but I did get volume one slam dunk.

[00:11:11] I find harder to find than I anticipated. It's go up as a night. Go ahead. I think it's an out of print series at the moment. Okay, because when I. When I went on like eBay to find it most people were just selling all 31 volumes in one set.

[00:11:30] Yeah, I think it's 31 volumes and I'm like I don't want to buy all 31 volumes of a series. I'm going to like, you know, that seems like always even if it's cheaper. It's like, well, then we have to sell them all and I don't want to do that.

[00:11:43] So I bought the one and I'm just going to buy them one at a time. What I love is that slam dunk and vagabond is the same guy. Yeah, same dude did the manga that made basketball a thing in Japan and then when he was done he's like,

[00:11:58] I want to do an epic samurai tale that'll never end because I may die before it's finished. Unfortunately. Yeah, you know what I believe it's always funny to me like some of those like yeah, Just go anyway.

[00:12:12] Yeah, those are sports manga is to me are always interesting because like they have like their huge fans like Alex in particular. She loves high que which is the volleyball manga. Yeah, I've heard of that one.

[00:12:25] She's obsessed with the night. I like I don't get it but more power to her. I mean, I'm curious to this one because it's like basketball, you know. So supposedly it's acclaimed. Oh yeah, it's gross. 31 volumes that's been done for a long time.

[00:12:41] I was curious to like if the anime was worth it and apparently the anime trims the story like pretty heavily. So like fans of the manga aren't big fans of the anime so I decided to skip on it.

[00:12:56] It's an old it's an older one like a lot of those. Yeah, I think it came out when the I think it came out when the manga was a thing.

[00:13:04] Yeah, that's done. That's probably why like no like a bunch of series would do stuff like that like a Rooney Kenchin the 96 anime. Only covers like the first two major arcs and then like doesn't cover any of the rest instead just did filler for a season.

[00:13:22] Yeah, yeah, the you know the manga went from October of 1990 to June of 96 and the the anime went from October 93 to March 96. So that's probably why. Yeah. It has a lot of episodes but I feel like it might just be one I'm better off reading.

[00:13:40] Probably it's not like a you talk a show where like the anime is pretty much spot on for the most part. I told there are differences but not a huge amount like the manga is a lot darker.

[00:13:53] Yeah, there are some things that go more in I think they go more in detail about why he a cannot admit to I forget her name his sister.

[00:14:03] Why you know you can't like I think it goes more in detail about why he can't because the anime just kind of mentions it and then just kind of moves on.

[00:14:11] I think I go as more present in the manga as well, because she kind of gets pushed to the side for most of the anime.

[00:14:17] Yeah, because in the dark because in the tournament arc, she's like in the audience you know you get to the thing are you still in the middle of the Dark Tournament or I am on episode 39.

[00:14:28] Okay, there's a there's a famous gift from the Dark Tournament saga that involves a. Okay, go that's pretty hilarious. I'm not going to spoil it though because I've read it you see it yourself it's.

[00:14:40] Oh, no let me just look at it. Yeah, let me just look up the gift if it shows up just look up cakeo Dark Tournament saga and you'll probably know find the one I. It's probably one that like I've seen you know what I mean.

[00:14:56] It involves cakeo and you're scared that's not you skin that's all I say. Not seeing a thing. Or at least nothing that's like sticking out to me. Yeah, not seeing a thing it's just like like shots for in the audience.

[00:15:22] All right, so for later I put it it's in our discord server under the gift space. Are you sent it? Yeah, just stuck it in there. Let's say did do do. Oh, I've never seen that yeah.

[00:15:41] No, yeah, it makes a lot more it makes sense in context but when you're a lot. I'm sure you're like what the fuck. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, I mean to be fair there's there's been a couple things in this show that have made me go. Oh, 90s. Yeah.

[00:15:58] I mean, like, slapsed in Japan and it may slap stick. It's a very interesting thing. And what's even that? I think it was like the episode I think it's like the weird like break episode in the dark tournament. Like before they start fighting, I think. Yeah.

[00:16:15] Yeah, that that's the one. Oh, yeah, because like the one where it's like they imply that that one person's like a trans the trans woman. Yeah, that was kind of gross. I got to admit those kind of gross.

[00:16:28] Yeah, Japan is very behind on a lot of things and that in particular is one thing they're still very behind on. Yeah, I mean it was 1990, 94. I think everybody was behind on it then. Yeah. It doesn't necessarily excuse it but no, it's just fun.

[00:16:44] Things like, but they don't lay it on the thick. It just wants it to go on its gone and they just kind of keep going. Yeah. They don't labor it, you know. Yeah. But yeah.

[00:16:56] I got a nice backlog of manga here so and I did get yeah, Bizarre Colling 2 and very excited to get back into guts as world. Yeah. That's honestly one of my favorite things about like unread it. There's a whole like subreddit for manga collectors.

[00:17:11] And I love it when they show their full collections because you all, you'll get that one like Bizarre fan who has like their full set of Bizarre manga. And you'll look at them real quick and you'll realize for really quickly you're like, Those are all still wrapped.

[00:17:23] It's like, read your damn manga. I'm just putting on the shelf. I mean, hey, they're, hey, they're given the meura estate money so yeah. It's just always funny to me.

[00:17:33] It's like, I get like if like the first couple were unrapped to symbolize your reading and you're just waiting till you get to them unrapped them but when it's like all of them it's like, Like, read your books don't just put it on the shelf, it's rare.

[00:17:44] Yeah, that's why I don't like buying whole sets of things. Because it's just because then you just stare at that commitment so much and then it just kind of like weighs on you where it's better to just buy one at a time.

[00:17:57] You know, like all by this one I'll read it and then when I'm done I'll move on to the next one, you know, like, Like when I read golden compass, you know,

[00:18:05] And then I was like, I should probably read the other two and then the other day I bought number two. So, and I will be starting to read that soon as well, you know, I got word in picture books. Okay? I can do both.

[00:18:16] I can do both and question for you, you can cut this out if you want but when you're talking about the high school manga thing was you're reading list all manga? No, I didn't get into manga until like years after I graduated high school. Okay.

[00:18:31] So, so your example wasn't a real life one. No, no, that was my problem with school was just like, I didn't like the way English teachers would like restrict you to only certain books and like they would like kind of like

[00:18:48] I wasn't a fan of just the way that they handled English class a lot of times. They were very particular about certain things and like you had to do a Only read the classics.

[00:18:57] Only it was either only the classics are like, you were restricted to like this one obscure book. I didn't like the fact that they wouldn't let you just pick your own books and like

[00:19:07] I can understand that because there was a lot of key occasions where it's like you get a book and just like I don't want to read this at all. Like there's just like I understand why some people like Shakespeare, but I could never get into Shakespeare.

[00:19:19] I like Shakespeare. I mean, I see the appeal. It's just one of those things where it's like I'd read and just I didn't get it. Yeah, but at least with Shakespeare he had he wrote so much and he has such a wide variety of work.

[00:19:32] There's probably something he did you'd like. I'm sure of it probably. I love merchant Venice that's great. Hamlets pretty good, you know, especially when Disney rebate is Lion King and make that big math as a classic of course. Couldn't get in the Romeo and Juliet.

[00:19:52] I mean, I remember in high school like poking the holes in it, you know, just like I kind of get why that one is stuck around, you know? There's the power in the in the great love story, but it's not really got love story though.

[00:20:07] Like even my high school English teacher when we when we read that she was like she was like she was pointing out like all the things that make it not really a love story.

[00:20:17] But more of just like like a power struggle and like more of like themes of like teenage rebellion and things like that which are much more accurate. So I don't know. But we're not here to talk fucking Shakespeare here.

[00:20:32] No, we're here to talk about the 3DO and do you think Shakespeare would like the 3DO? I want the heat understand the 3DO. I think he'd see the he'd see the disk drive shoot out and he could probably get scared of it. Honestly wouldn't blame him.

[00:20:48] But yeah, for this episode though, we're taking a bit of actually before we get into the episode that we should probably announce the poll. Oh, yeah. I fired on us. Yes, speaking of basketballs.

[00:21:02] Yeah, so we ran our poll for the next game we'll be covering next week and we were going to do a fighting game this time and of course I had to put a joke entry on there and of course I've one voted for the joke entry.

[00:21:17] So thanks guys. So we'll be playing ball 3D next week. Directors cut ball directors cut let's get it right. It's getting a finitive addition of balls.

[00:21:29] Yes, yes, I did not have my balls when we ordered this so I went to eBay and I ordered a copy of balls. So it'll be let's say according to this, I'm I'll be getting it within the next day or two.

[00:21:47] So I'll have to put down like a dragon infinite well to play this fucking game for you people. All right. If you pass the opening title screen and you don't immediately turn it off.

[00:21:58] Oh, please I'm I would be shocked if it was that bad that it would like I've seen some fucked up shit. Okay, like I've scored through live league. Okay, and oh God. The opening the opening title screen is amazing and awful at the same time. It's wonderful.

[00:22:19] It basically when I'm playing it, I'm going to have off to the side actual pornography. So somebody walks in on me. It'll be so much easier to explain. Yeah, right. But yeah, so that'll be next week.

[00:22:35] You know, I was really excited there at the start because like Samurai showed down took a really early lead and then Aaron came in with like balls and then just fucking was downhill from there.

[00:22:47] Aaron put his balls on our face. Thanks man. He voted for balls and then suddenly everyone voted for balls and I was like, it's not stopping. It's like we're done. We're done. Balls are inevitable.

[00:22:59] Yeah, but we'll get to the other. We'll get to the other three games eventually. Speaking of Aaron on Twitter, I just saw him saying, in case you needed more proof that God doesn't exist, here's a hell's kitchen game on DS.

[00:23:16] And I'm like, I totally forgot. I remember the PC version where it looks like they got like they tried to make like a fake version of Gordon Ramsay but like his forehead melted. So he looks fucked up.

[00:23:30] In fact, in fact, that kind of looks like him on the DS cover. The one I'm thinking of. That doesn't surprise me. I mean, the DS has some like legendarily awful license games.

[00:23:40] Like, I mean, it's got a Korean house on it. I mean, everyone knows about that one. My favorite anime. And yeah, well, and you know, Hell's Kitchen, Gordon Ramsay was really popping off and it's like 2000s early, 2010s. So before he just became a meme.

[00:23:59] Yeah, and most people are like, you know, he's not really all that. No, he's just really entertaining to watch. That's like really. Yeah, and weirdly whenever I see him like, like, go and people are interviewing him.

[00:24:14] They always ask him about making burgers. And I'm like, is that his specialty? I didn't think it was. I don't know. I will say I love his show. Was it Kitchen's nightmare? Yeah, yeah, where he goes to like restaurants that are just terrible.

[00:24:30] He tries to like fix them and everything. That shows amazing. I love that one because it shows the incompetence of small business. Yeah, there was a point in my mind. I got a hate small business owners, but that's a whole another podcast.

[00:24:44] It was kind of a point where like I was I would binge between that and then the bar version of bar rescue. Yeah, spike, which is another really entertaining show where guy yells at people. We enjoy it so much, don't we?

[00:24:59] It's just entertaining. It's like it's really amazing to watch. It is. It is. We enjoy watching other people suffer. My favorite is when I you watch Master Chef and Gordon's like the nice guy is opposed to that other. It gets so big.

[00:25:13] Oh yeah, yeah, I forget his name. Some of them will tell us. Yeah, I only know if him because I saw an edit where someone just photoshopped the craftsman logo and his head. That's nice. I was like, I get it. That's nice. That's very nice.

[00:25:29] Yeah, but so for the topic of this episode we've already killed 25 minutes, but that's fine. We're actually going to be comparing the 3DOs, particularly the Panasonic variations of the console, which in many ways are pretty much the only ones that really matter. Yeah.

[00:25:49] No offense to any gold star owners out there. No, no, no all the offense. I'm offending all of them. The only gold star 3DO owner I actually know is a. A Casey from him. He guessed appeared on the third episode of the show before we the reboot.

[00:26:08] Yeah, and he was a gold star owner apparently, and he told me that it was broken all the time. So. He owned a paperweight that said 3DO on it.

[00:26:18] Yeah, I'm sure we'll have Casey on again at some point because he's like one of the other 3DO fans out there. Yes, yes, hi Casey. We've never met but high. The, um, yeah the Panasonic's though there's there were two variations.

[00:26:33] We've mentioned them quite a bit on this podcast because I've had the C1. For most of the shows right in the Therax have the FC 10. Yeah. And for this episode because we're doing video now, I think. I got her might as well bring her out here.

[00:26:52] Look at that look at that VHS everybody. Yeah. But it's going to be a story. Sorry, VCR. VCR. It actually kind of looks like an Nintendo 64 DD. Yeah. That's a good point. Like with the towers and the corner and everything. Yeah. It's got this really nice thing.

[00:27:11] You think it was influenced by it? I think it predates it. Oh, the DD was one that come out like 98. Yeah, and the, um, never came out here. And it was a massive failure. Yep. This was 93.

[00:27:27] Yeah, so maybe, so maybe Nintendo looked at the, that the 3DO and we're like, That's not a bad design. It's really not to be honest. It's a pretty attractive looking console. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's 90s but not in a dated way. It's 90s.

[00:27:46] It's like retro, which I think is the word for some of that old, but it's cool. Retro, you know? Yeah. Like this thing is a tank to like beat the big thing about the FC ones where they were very like well made.

[00:27:58] Like it's got this really nice shiny matte finish on the top of it. You have the Panasonic logo like etched in there. Oh yeah. The real real. The weirdest thing about it is the power cord is hard wired in. Yeah. I still don't understand that.

[00:28:13] It must have just been a manufacturing thing that they kind of went with. The only downside with that is that occasionally you'll get them where they're clipped and if they're clipped. Fixing them is kind of hard. My, I just thought of this it might have been because they,

[00:28:30] They wanted to maybe build the power transformer right into the system, which probably adds to the overall size of the system. And they didn't want those like giant bricks that like the, Then he asked in the Genesis and the superintendent had no had.

[00:28:43] So they were trying to get around that. But maybe they, but they were like the only way we could do it with potentially the technology we had was too hard wired in.

[00:28:52] Because I don't, I don't know figure eight cords were around at this point, which are like the standard nowadays. Like even surprisingly my Xbox Series X just has that just a figure eight cord for the power, you know.

[00:29:07] But that is a pretty bulky system, but it's nice that they, It's a big, it's kind of big, but I'm glad they were able to build that power transformer right in there. So it's so if that cord breaks it's an easy fix, but with that guy.

[00:29:20] Yeah, that guy. Yeah, it's not going to work. You're kind of screwed if you don't have the power cable. Interestingly too.

[00:29:31] Yeah, we got the traditional AVs on there, but the one that interests me and that I had a little bit of history with is that S video in the back. And they're proprietary too, so you can use any cables you find. Oh, yes.

[00:29:45] I mean, they're, they're non proprietary, I should say. Yes, yes, because the model one Sega Genesis has S video as well, but I could not find those cables. So I tried buying a set off of eBay that was that and plugged them in, they didn't work.

[00:30:06] And I explained it like I took pictures of it sent into the whole eBay seller, they sent me another another pair for free, literally the exact same problem.

[00:30:15] So I don't know if it was the cords or if it was my system that sells S video broken, but unfortunately I was not able to test that. But have you had more better experience with the S video?

[00:30:28] So I don't currently have a TV that can use this video. Well, you can get S video and you can output it to AV. Yeah, I'll have to have a lot to find these solutions for that because I don't have a currently in option.

[00:30:43] One thing though that I did try just for shits and giggles is it also has an RF. And yes, he was curious what the RF looked like. I mean, it was that era. It don't look good. It's all I'll say. RF never looked good. No.

[00:31:00] That's not something like people are getting this talgic about the old CRT's and everything, but they're not plugging RF into that fucker. No, they're going to be 80 cables. Yeah.

[00:31:11] So yeah, I remember back in the day we used to have like when I had the NES and Genesis, we had the RF screwed into the back. You know, fuzzy picture man. You don't miss it.

[00:31:23] And then the one other thing back here that I find interesting is there's an expansion port that I'm. I believe there was like a memory expansion. I think there was something for a play video CDs that you could also plug in there.

[00:31:38] Maybe maybe you plug it in and it gives you access to the memory manager. No, there's a disc for them. Oh, okay. Yeah. But then it makes more sense. The other thing that I find really interesting is it has another expansion port just on the side.

[00:31:55] That was never used. Yeah, that was going to be for the 32x add on. Yeah. So you can play Kalibri on it. Yeah. Other than that though, it's a pretty big beefy system. Very pretty standard. You got your power and your eject buttons, your single loan control report.

[00:32:17] And your automated disk drive, which the while the elastic bands. Whereout pretty quick unfortunately. Well, doesn't it doesn't the button eject it? It does. It sticks sometimes though. Hmm.

[00:32:34] Side that issue with we had the model one Sega CD and that thing famously does not have an open closed tray. So dealing with that was a pain in the ass. Weirdly enough, it still works. I've tested it. It still works. But it was the tray itself.

[00:32:51] Like maybe like some sticky got into it or whatever. It just we would get stuck all the time. Yeah. Yeah. I figured it out and it opened. So I could. Sega play was a prize fighter. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. These early disk drives tend to wear out unfortunately.

[00:33:09] Like the one downside to the FC one nowadays is they have the best build quality. But their disk drives are tend to be the most quality. Yeah. It was like early CD disk drive era, especially with like the motorized disk trays. Yes.

[00:33:27] And yeah, just especially for gaming when you're going to be opening and closing that thing all the fucking time. You know, it just it just wasn't cut out for it. Like there's a reason say the Sega CD when they went to the model too.

[00:33:40] They did the pop open tray. Yes. Because that handles wear and tear so much more. Exactly. And before we move on to the model to use 3DO, I should say one other thing that the C1 has as an advantage is it has a higher RAM memory output. Yes.

[00:34:04] Which is very important when playing a game like say road rash where as Thrac is learned. Road rash doesn't play the music on FC 10. When you're playing the game, it's in the menus.

[00:34:18] But when you're playing the game, all you get is either the sound of the motorcycle or nothing. Or like, you know, when you hit cars or like, like vehicle sound effects or whatever, but I didn't want to hear. The whole time. So I turned it off.

[00:34:36] Yeah. It's like I guess because the later models have less memory. They're not able to stream the music from the system sound hardware in game. Yes. Something like that. It's just one minor offs downside to the FC 10. That the easy one has. Yeah.

[00:34:57] Well, that's kind of an issue when you don't have a standardized hardware specification for manufacturers so that these things don't happen. Because clearly this game was made for the FC one. As I imagined, the entire 3D ally where it was made with the FC one in mind.

[00:35:14] The FC one has the highest compatibility. Exactly. So it makes sense that they would shoot for that, you know. But if that's the only sacrifice I get on road rash, it's fine. It's not that big a deal. Yes.

[00:35:28] I can just pop up sound guard on my Spotify account. Listen to that. So the only other difference. I mean, aside from the lack of a memory manager, which we joke about every episode,

[00:35:40] the only other real difference with the FC one is it's startup is ironically the most iconic 3D startup and that is the one with like the the space and like the asteroid field. Yeah.

[00:35:56] Ironically, that startup only happens when you don't have a disc insert it like it's that's just the other. It all screen when you're when you have no disk in the console.

[00:36:05] Because once you put a disk in it immediately goes to the 3D logo and then just starts up again. Yep. That's just like the FC 10. Well, when you put a disk in though. Yeah. Now the speaking of the FC 10. There is old faithful.

[00:36:25] And this one for about a month now. Hmm. We the top loader is we like to call it that's that's a very popular term in the video game world, isn't it? Yeah. Yes, top loader the 3D, top loader the CD Sega CD top loader.

[00:36:40] PlayStation 2 slim. That was the top loader. That it was. And my favorite the PS3 super slim with its weird slidy thing. Yeah. It's like a patio door. That's one of the weirdest ones. But anyway, nice little PS3s. Yeah. It was cute. It was cute.

[00:36:56] But yeah. This guy is interesting. Like there's no button or mechanical thing. It's actually a little opt-or there which is kind of cool. And the weird thing is is that like tactile like push and push in the the holder down and opening up.

[00:37:14] It still feels good to this day. You know what I mean? Yeah. Mine's down there and there's a mess of wires back there so I'm not going to hook it unfortunately.

[00:37:23] I brought mine just because I figured that would have been a pain in the S and I don't keep my consoles plugged in. What am I using them so? Yeah, I keep them plugged in. But Bill, where is the power button on that guy?

[00:37:34] So the power button is interesting on the side. On the back. The back left fucking corner and it's like one of those like that has a technical name for it. That kind of like flips which or whatever. Yeah. You know, yeah. I mean it's chunky.

[00:37:52] You know, it feels good. It's not bad. Yeah. It's just annoying. Just the placement of it is not the kindest. Like it'd be better if it was right up in front. You know, like if you want to put it on the side, but have it up front.

[00:38:06] I actually thought these were the buttons originally over here. But no, this would be a power and load light or access. So what it says? Yeah. I mean, it's like my favorite ready and access. Yeah. Like the Sega CDs were the exact same.

[00:38:22] I mean, it's like why the hell are you calling them access? You know, different times, I guess. I guess they didn't want to maybe they were worried about loading for something. Maybe I will say, um, in terms of look, I do like the look of the FC 10.

[00:38:40] It's got a very video game you looked at. It looks like an AI generated video game console. To a degree yes. I love it. I like the look of it though, like I liked the real on top, like with the colors.

[00:38:55] It pops out more than the one on the FC one did. Yeah. You got your Panasonic FC 10 there. It's front profile is just smooth. What year did this version come out? So believe it or not, this came out literally one year after the original. So 94. Yes.

[00:39:15] Okay, because 94 want to say okay, because to me, it looks like it's taking some influence from the PlayStation 1 and Sega Saturn. I think it was to be honest. Because if you put that model next to the P.A. at the original P.S. 1 and the Saturn,

[00:39:32] like it fits right in with them. Like it runs in. There's I think the FC one model would stick out. The FC one looks like a legitimately looks like a BCR. Yes. We joke about it and it's kind of why I,

[00:39:47] it's why most people like the thing is it's got its old classic look to it. Like vintage look, I guess you can say vintage yes. This on the other hand looks like a video game console. You see this and you think video game. Exactly.

[00:40:05] What I find interesting though is they kept the one controller for it and it just looks so odd on this one just there. It's like the alignment of its kind of weird, but I feel like that is where you put it.

[00:40:17] I think the fact that there's nothing else on the front just makes it look weird. Yeah, makes it look kind of sad. Like I was thinking kind of like the Sega Master System had its power button like down on this side.

[00:40:28] Like that would have made sense, but no, it's on the side over here. Yeah. Like the Master System is also a weirdly designed console. Like it's almost like trap isoid kind of style and the pause buttons on the console itself and everything.

[00:40:43] But I thought about buying a OG Master System and collecting games for it just because it looks like a fun one to do. I actually have a broken one chilling over there. What's wrong with it? The controller points broken. Up and down don't work.

[00:41:00] Oh, that is not good at all. And then on the other side here we got another expansion port. Yeah, though they were determined to use that for nothing. Yeah, and this one's not easy to open. Oh, not doing it a bother. Nope.

[00:41:19] And then on the back, the big key thing here. We're moving the power supply. Oh, yes. Well, our power supply. The power supply is still inside. Yes, yes. And it's still the, that's not really the figure eight style.

[00:41:37] But it's like close enough to what I think it's the same power cord as the PlayStation one, the Saturn, the Dreamcast and the PS2. Okay. Yeah. And I think maybe the OG Xbox. I got double check on that. I've never had no G Xbox so I can't say.

[00:41:57] I'd have to double check on it. I know though for a fact, PS1, PS2. Well, I should say, fat PS2 original PS1 Saturn and Dreamcast. I'll have the same power cord. And if I remember the PS1 and two, they had the power bricks. Yes, yes.

[00:42:15] Yeah, the PS1 had this really obnoxious wall adapter that made it a pain in the S-deplug in anywhere. Yeah, I just remember the PS2 slim having the power brick, which was not a terrible

[00:42:30] size, like especially compared to when I got my first 360 and the size of that power brick was fucking immense. Yeah, at least those they had the decency to end in a traditional cord and not those fucking sake of Genesis bricks. Yes.

[00:42:45] Oh, the bricks were such a pain in the ass, especially when you're trying to do say the sake of Genesis and the CD. So you need your room for two power for two of those giant plugs.

[00:42:55] Or imagine trying to do the CD 32X and Stan Genesis at once. I couldn't imagine. So I did a on my Instagram. I did a video showcasing how to do it like you.

[00:43:06] I might actually put it up on the YouTube channel at some point just to show it is a pain in the ass. That's an easy way to put it. Just a play corps killer on Sega CD 32X.

[00:43:18] I'm so glad you mentioned a game that's also on the 3D. Yes, I don't know that on 3D, but I'm sure the 3D version is better. I played it on the switch. It's not the worst. I'll say it's not the best either.

[00:43:36] No, but I mean at least I think when me and Alex did our on the games episode we commented that it was the one that we actually got somewhere in. Double double switch. We couldn't get past the first screen. Yeah.

[00:43:53] If I remember a corps killer, I got to the final. I got to the final boss and I literally couldn't beat him because the enemies were coming way too fast. I just might I could not hit the button fast enough to kill them.

[00:44:09] Yeah, so I it felt like it was unbeatable. I don't know if it is or not, but I couldn't do it. The only other one that I got anywhere in was Ground Zero Texas until I accidentally killed the civilian and then they got punched me in the face.

[00:44:21] That was the thing. I kind of liked that one. Yeah, it was fun until I suddenly jumped in front of my redical. I killed them and then I got punched in the face. It's great. It's a shame all of those games didn't get a like a wee port.

[00:44:36] You know, because I conveniently have behind me because I was too lazy to re-plug the 3D back and that's understandable. But going back to this guy on the back. It's pretty much the same as the FC one.

[00:44:52] You got your AV or S video and one expansion port in and RF. Yep. And you can use any chords because the 3Dos were very nice like that. No, yes. And getting like spare AV chords are it's so easy to do these days. Yes. Oh, you're finding.

[00:45:15] So if you're for buy a 3Do as long as they say it works and it has at least for the FC 10 anyways, as long as they say it works and it comes with a controller, you're pretty much good because you can get the cables from anywhere now. Yep.

[00:45:29] NFC one. If it says it doesn't have the power cord, I'd be skeptical. Let's just say. Yeah, because it because then it sounds like they don't know what they have. Yeah, or if it says it has a power cord included. I also am skeptical.

[00:45:46] Basically they don't show pictures of the thing that I'm usually skeptical. Yeah. And what's interesting is that nowadays if you're trying to find a 3Do, mostly you're going to find the Japanese versions of them.

[00:46:00] So it must have been they just made like just a shit ton of those. You know? This is by far the most common 3Do. Yeah. Yeah. They're also so built quality was they're not bad, but they are they do feel

[00:46:18] noticeably cheaper than the FC ones, but I think the FC ones are just overbuilt. Oh yeah. And those are the ones that were $700 when they came out. Yes. Where is I think by the time they got to the FC 10s, they had lowered the price drastically.

[00:46:37] I believe it was $2.99. Yeah. They had dropped it down too, so the same as the PlayStation. But I'm not 100% sure on that. Yeah. There isn't a really a price, but they give for the, if C10 in particular. Yeah. It's unclear honestly. We'll never know. Yeah.

[00:47:05] We only know apparently the price of the FC one was reduced to $3.99 though by the end of 94. Yeah. And if I remember it was pretty quickly after, oh, it's usually pretty quickly after the 3Do came out that retailers were selling it for less than

[00:47:20] $6700 because they knew nobody was going to buy it at that price. Yeah. Unfortunately and they weren't selling it all. Pretty much doomed it from the start. Yeah. The epidoodles are other than that though. I mean, difference hardware wise between the two is the FC 10 as a menu.

[00:47:45] Yes it does. And it's a very rudimentary menu. One that is reminiscent of looking through files of like a Windows 95 machine before Windows 95 was a thing. But it is there. So and it's nice to have the memory manager, especially when we did the incredible machine.

[00:48:04] And the only way you can get back to the older puzzles as far as I know is completely deleting your memory and inserting from scratch. So if you plan to see what you're basically fucked, it's like. Yeah.

[00:48:18] Get a grab your 3Do game group to go delete some files. Oh, thank god. So, so are we going to talk about gold star?

[00:48:31] We can, but before that I'd like to mention though the one feature that they both have that's identical to me and is the best part about them. Is by far the music player. Ah yes, yes. The good old music player, the visualizer.

[00:48:49] It's one of the best visualizers I think the consoles ever had. Yeah, yeah. Did the Saturn have one? I can't remember. The Saturn's it's boring. Okay, because I remember that menu. So and I was like messing around in that menu.

[00:49:10] So I believe the play the the Sega CD had a music player. It was incredibly boring but it did have one. Yeah, it wasn't just like the logo floated around a bunch.

[00:49:20] No, it was like just this little graphic of a like CD player that just popped up and that was it. Oh, yeah. The playstation had one but it was boring as well. The Saturn's was boring.

[00:49:36] I think the only, yeah, I think the 3D was like one of the first ones that really had an interesting one. Hmm. The Jaguar CD was also pretty interesting for what I've heard. But finding a Jaguar CD that works. That's pretty tough man. Yeah.

[00:49:55] Oh, all the play what that highlander game. Um, Blue lightning I guess. Oh, I guess. Blue with the fuck is blue lightning. It's a jet. It's kind of like after burner. Let's see how many Jaguar CD games were there. Not a lot. There was I heard.

[00:50:17] The soldier to the 13. We got all these hell yeah. Battle war blue lightning as you'd said, some like combat flight thing. Brain dead 13. Oh, which is also on 3DO dragons layer. Do you got dragons layer? It's also on 3DS. Yeah, highlander the last of the McLeod's.

[00:50:39] Um, hover strike and conquered lands iron soldier to missed misses on everything. Primal rage space ace, which was on everything. Vid grid and World Tour racing. I got your bad grid. And I believe half of those were named were also regular cartridges. Yeah, I think so.

[00:51:01] Because I know for a fact, uh, Iron soldier too also was on cartridge. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I'm pretty sure battle morph was. Now battle morph is actually a sequel to cyber morph. Oh, thank god. Where did you learn to fly? Yeah.

[00:51:22] Um, but yeah, so going back to the 3DO though. Awesome music player. It's basically the 3DO logo and it like does like this wavy pattern. Oh, yeah, because I think I sent a video of you want to do you once that I was listening to.

[00:51:37] That is some beach house on, um, on my 3DO through the visualizer. And yeah, 20 10s like dream pop looks great for sounds great connected to that thing. So that's just looks super cool. Also, like you could switch it up like you had the wavy 3DO logo pattern.

[00:51:56] You could also change it over to like this really trippy cycle delet shit. Oh, yeah. And then my favorite was the 3DO wave pattern was psychodellect shit. Because you could just switch over to that one. Yeah, it is pretty neat, you know, it's like a.

[00:52:11] And effect that kind of stuck with with SCD. Excuse me, as music visualizers got much more complex. In fact, I have no idea if Windows 11 even has one. I have no idea to be on a site play to see the computer and forever.

[00:52:27] Well, what what CDs have a there are what computers have a CD drive these days. That is true. I have this one right here that I bought. Oh, nice. Nice. Well, like a USB one. It also has a speaker built in do it.

[00:52:46] So use it as a standalone CD player. What a bad idea. Give it a shot at some point. See, looking at the media player. I'm not seeing any visualizer option. That's bummer. Yeah. To be fair, it never really. I don't think it ever really caught on.

[00:53:10] You know, like they were doing it for a while. I don't know, but as far as I know, it was never anything. People kind of gravitated towards it was just like a little cute gimmick thing.

[00:53:22] Well, back in the day, it was kind of like you'd have a party and like you'd have music playing. You just put that up on the TV screen and then that would just be kind of your background for the party. Yeah, I guess.

[00:53:31] I didn't have that many parties. I think it understandable. I guess we can talk about the gold star a little bit. I don't have one, so it's gonna be as easy to compare. I don't either, but as I was perusing eBay,

[00:53:50] I found a picture of the front of the box for the gold star. Let me send that to you. It is. Oh, boy. Yeah, it's not. If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's not the most track. Yeah. Where's that guy these days? What does he do?

[00:54:11] He looks like he's on a lot of drugs and that photo. Yeah, he's high. He's high on gaming. Anyone who's interested? Yeah, just go to eBay type in like 3DO and you'll probably see it. Like somebody selling the whole thing in that box.

[00:54:30] So 300 bucks for the whole thing. It might work. He said it works. So the thing with gold stars to me is like they also look like VCRs, but somehow they look. They don't have that vintage look like the 3DO does. They just look lame and lame as hell.

[00:54:52] Apparently they're incredibly faulty from what I've read. That's what I've heard as well. They feel cheap. They kind of look cheap. They have that controller as hilarious. Like I've shown it up a few times. It's garggy showing for no reason. Yeah, ridiculous.

[00:55:11] But apparently it's, I mean it's playable, I guess. Yeah, here's, here's the good old gold star for anyone interested. That looks like something you'd see on like your parents like the media console. Like one of those like CD change your things.

[00:55:28] Yeah, it looks like it looks like the VCR your grandparents would have. Yeah. And I believe they had compatibility issues. Like that was their biggest downfall. Yeah. There's also the Sanio. I kind of like the look of the Sanio, but these things are apparently incredibly rare.

[00:55:54] It looks like like when a piece of paper gets wet. Yeah, it's got the wavy rich tops and then that's just etched into the top of it. Which is a cool idea. Like it looks cool but yeah those are the hardest to find.

[00:56:08] They were only released in Japan. Apparently they only had a little bit of them out made. Yeah, because the CDI, not the CDI, the 3Dio had a bit of a coat following in Japan. Yeah, it was interesting.

[00:56:23] But I think the problem is you could find so many more gold stars though. Yeah, probably not a gold star. Fc 10s. Fc 10s. Because yeah, if you go to eBay, you'll most likely if you buy a 3Dio off of eBay, it's most likely a Fc 10 from Japan.

[00:56:39] Yes. You know what's funny? You know where the gold stars were very popular. Korea. Because gold star is now known as LG and that's a Korean company. Exactly. The Koreans are taking over LG. Also kind of a menu. Yes, not that Korea. It's Korea. Okay. Um,

[00:57:09] Interestingly, Panasonic is the current owner of San Jo. Now it is. So yeah, that's an interesting parallel. They probably bought them because of the 3Dio. Maybe it's hard to say. That's my head cannon unless somebody corrects me. The only other officially released 3Dio that is around and this,

[00:57:29] This is the hardest one to find is the creative blaster. Oh yes. The easy expansion card thing. Yeah. It. I, if you found one, I guess it's kind of cool, but it's one of those things where I was like,

[00:57:44] You need like an old, a little doc computer to use it. So it's kind of like. It's for a hardcore PC in through the Israeli. Yeah. It's like the only people who have this are like the enthusiasts. You know,

[00:57:57] If you want to see a good video of what one looks like. Look up a lazy game reviews. He did a whole video explaining how the thing works. It's pretty interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I watched a bit of that video. It was pretty good.

[00:58:10] LGR makes a really good content. The best part of that video is when he discovered the thing was basically a capture card. So he just streamed it over a kick over a solitaire. He was playing solitaire over road crash. It was just a funny parallel. Yeah.

[00:58:27] I, ironically, the funniest part of that review is when he's like, Oh yeah. And the guy who let me this also loan me a bunch of his games and then Lucy and his quest is just right there. I'm like, like, son of a bitch.

[00:58:37] Fucking one of the rarest 3D games. It's just chilling right there. Yeah. Oh yeah. He also, he also made a video about the Gizmando, which is pretty cool. Gizmando. He also did the tap waves ODAC for anyone who remembers that thing. vaguely.

[00:58:53] It was another failed and held a Duke Nukeman. That's probably why he played it. Why do all these consoles have Duke Nukemanum? Duke Nukeman was everywhere. In the time it took, in the time it took for fucking forever. It came up there. At least like 12 Duke Nukeman games.

[00:59:10] They did just fucking insane. Milk the cow, right? Well, I was just Ron, your son, not knowing how to chill the fuck out. Basically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If anybody's curious, we'll keep recommending you two Bruce Matt McMussels that are really good video on Duke Nukeman forever.

[00:59:33] Side effects coming back. If you want to know what happened. What happened? What happened? He also did a 3D O episode. It's all right. Oh, he did? Yeah. He's a little harsh on it, but I mean. Most people are. And I think so.

[00:59:49] We're just weirdly biased, don't you? That's a way to put it. I'm looking at you, Aaron, putting it in the garbage. I'm still not happy with you. I have just kidding. Well, well, well, for some on here. He's going to make him play Masha on the image.

[01:00:05] He wants to play it. I know. So we'll let him play it. That's the thing. We'll have him play it and then have him describe it to us. Yeah. That's not playing that fucker. You can kiss my ass. It's got catchy music.

[01:00:20] That's really about all I can say about it. Like those two on YouTube, but I had to play it for her. I love that game because I bought it thinking it was like some beat him up and then I plugged it up and it was Masha.

[01:00:31] I was like, oh, he don't give that. Yeah. Oh boy. Well, yeah. And then that though, really not much else to say about the 3DOs. I honestly recommend that FC 10 at this point. That's the one to go for.

[01:00:47] I mean, if you can find an FC one for cheap and you really want it, I get it, I guess. But there's a good chance its describes going to give you issues after a while. So that's the one you get because you like how it looks.

[01:01:01] On that, yeah. I mean, it's a nice fancy looking console. Yeah. It looks pretty cool. Um, I at some point I'm going to track down a gold star just to have. But I doubt a Sanio because they're so hard to find. I'm happy with my FC 10. Yeah.

[01:01:23] I'm not really, I've never been a console collector. You know? I have all the major variants of the Game Boy Advance and that's kind of it for me. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm, I have a weird fascination with the 3DOs. So that's like the only one I swear.

[01:01:40] I thought you were about to say fetish. I don't know why. No, I'm not on that level. I'm not on that level yet. Yeah, that's a different podcast. That's 3DOs. That's 4 bills fetishes fetishes. Please, what's the plural of fetish? Let me know. Let us know, please.

[01:02:00] Radio after dark. The, the, the plumbers don't where it dies episode. Which is among other games. Apparently there's more games like that on me. I think the confidence one of them, there's some. Oh, we'll do a whole, we'll do a whole episode on the, on the adult games.

[01:02:18] We have to. There's a lot of them in Japan. Oh yeah. Jesus. Come in or no, coven because Kevin sounds like oven man. Yeah. If you know that reference, I'll, I'll give you a dollar. Come in sounds like oven man. There was endlessly. Blond just this Jesus.

[01:02:42] I think there's like literally one called snow job. Like. Oh, God. That turned me into rich. Starring Tracy, Scalgons, Scalgons. I don't know how to pronounce that. Oh, that's, that's the, she was in Babylon five of all things. Oh, yeah. God. She was in the final season.

[01:03:09] She placed a. Happelons five. I have not thought about that in a long ass time. Yeah, she replaced the main female lead because she left after season four. Yeah, it's a two-disk game. Was this a MFM VBS? Probably. That's probably the master piece then.

[01:03:32] I found back in the case. This seven sees. I've had stuff on them back in the day at a flea market. There was a sky that had like a shit ton of like 3D Ojuel case games. Like, and he was selling them like five bucks up the east.

[01:03:45] But at the time I was like, I wanted like, What's that 3D O what's that? Well, though I had a 3D O. I just think I was collecting other stuff. I think I wanted shining in the shining the whole yark at the time.

[01:03:57] And that like blew all my funds out. So yeah, that's fair. I mean, that's a good game. So that's an extremely underrated game. Super models go wild with that. We're going to go wild with that one.

[01:04:11] And then eventually we're going to start touching on the back end of the 3D catalog. So oh, we will. We have to. We have to. Like, What's even fun? My curiosity won't prohibit me from doing this. You know what I mean? I just have to know.

[01:04:28] I loaded up one of them. I forget which one. And I was watching it essentially. There's no gameplay at all. And I was just confused. You know, like the options you had back in the 90s for, you know, getting the poison out. We're we're much more limited.

[01:04:47] And I feel bad for them, you know? I mean, now we live in an era where it's like the the access is almost too much. And it causes a lot of other issues. But again, It's not here for that, you know? It's easy. I could say.

[01:05:04] Yeah, like we had a nice midpoint where we had to. We had to put a little bit of work in. But, you know, we got some good shit out of it. Yeah. At least I knew how I did. Sorry, Mom. Did she listen? Oh yeah.

[01:05:22] I've had to explain things I did want to. I'm that I'm that I'm that friend that your mom's like you shouldn't be hang out. And he's a bad influence on you. No, she's she's pretty chill about it. She'll just question. Like, what does this mean?

[01:05:39] I'm like you don't know. I think that's a boy. Maybe. But yeah. So we had that asked me about snow job bill. I think that was a crash bandico. Little name. Honestly. That's that that's a GI Joe character. Yeah. That's true. It was well.

[01:06:03] Not the only is to hide that shit everywhere. They did. But yeah. So next week we're going to cover balls. Oh, great. Oh, man. Oh, God. What's called mind teaser with two z's? What the fuck is this? 3D is a wonderful college. Oh, God.

[01:06:24] You know, we're going to cover numbers don't wear ties and that's like considered like that's that's the tip of the iceberg, man. That's like considered the peak and then just goes downhill from there. Yeah. So it's not a good chance of God.

[01:06:37] The shit that you'll find on 3D. Okay. So snow job wasn't one of these like adult games. No, I must be thinking of a different game then. Okay. Cause I'll figure it out figure it out. We'll figure this out. Bear with us folks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:06:55] So I guess it's a good enough time to end it here. But once again, guys. Thanks for joining us on the 3D experience. We're going to find the 3D experience on all the major podcasting platforms.

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[01:07:25] games and you can come join the GNC podcast network discord server to find all things. You can get the 3D. Talk gaming anime, there's an entire channel dedicated to water bottle propaganda. Don't don't ask. Get gay or reusable kids.

[01:07:41] I don't care if it's that trendy ass standing up just like just got one, okay? But don't buy 300 of them. Just one. Yeah. And with that we will see you all later. Bye bye. I'm not playing on a 3D-O system.