EP 63 - SUPER GHOST GAME OF THE YEAR 2023

[00:00:00] I'm Jerry, she's Beth, he's Greg, and we're SuperGhost Radio, and this is our game of

[00:00:07] the year.

[00:00:08] Are you using those Krispy Kreez? Welcome back to Supergills Radio. We did it, baby. We closed out another year, another one in the books.

[00:01:43] I just got done saying it and I totally went super smooth and according to by personal when I was going through my personal I was like like I did I did a top 10 for my personal and just now when you guys were like you make like you want to do a top five I was like I would my head would explode if I had to choose five like it would be like K number number five it's this

[00:03:00] game this game this game and this course You know the game of the year

[00:04:21] Whoo I do. Well, why don't we get this started off? First up, we got best where you make Beth. Why don't you go ahead and give me the list of games that are nominated for best remake? You can't ask me play more than me. No, I really didn't. And I didn't watch anybody play this. I also never played any of the originals myself. Mm. I've watched other people play Resident Evil Dead Space and Metroid. And I've seen a speedrun of Super Mario RPG, but...

[00:07:04] Blasphemy.

[00:07:05] Uh-huh.

[00:07:06] So I'm a little... Not saying that it's not better than all these it very very well be I just don't I don't know As well Okay Greg do you want to take I feel like I feel like we're waffling over the obvious winner

[00:08:23] Mario RPG which is Resident Evil 4 remake

[00:09:23] I feel like comparing visuals sometimes, like you're comparing like different types of art styles.

[00:09:26] And I think both of them do their art style.

[00:09:29] Equally is good.

[00:09:32] They added some new mechanics to the battles

[00:09:34] that are really cool in Mario RPG.

[00:09:36] And they've added summons, basically.

[00:09:39] Like there's like these big combo attacks that you can do.

[00:09:44] There's definitely, there's definitely enough there for did do the whole like, you know, oh, you've you've played this game before, but I bet you don't recognize this thing happening or like they've they switched it up enough that they kind of like they like they knew they knew that they were fucking with the audience

[00:11:00] like, spoiler alert, obviously, there's going to be, I'm just saying this is what Jerry, what, what one do you want? Who went this is, this is fantastic news for you. This is a democracy. Um, and I have no stake in this. Um, and if you want Mario RPG to be your, to be the remake, the best remake, I can make that dream come true.

[00:12:25] And that's my new things to do. Um, it was kind of just very faithful to, to the original, but, uh, yeah. Okay. So if I had played, it's a wonderful life. They make it would have been overfree guys.

[00:13:44] Uh, so best remake is Resident Evil four. at the day after something? It wasn't really released. That was early access. Is that really access? Yeah, I think they did it just to say they could do it. So like show that they had done something and then they closed their studio. So I wouldn't count that. Well, shout out to them. Cause apparently they just use a, like they bought a $300 map pack for their main like map

[00:15:04] off of like the unit, likeollum and Redfall. I would argue that Redfall should probably win this because there was so much fucking hype over Redfall and the stuff that they showed looks so cool. We can't deny if we listen back to the last while of us talking about Redfall coming out.

[00:16:24] We were like, oh, we're playing this the studio that was behind it. Because I distinctly remember us kind of saying something along the lines of like, I don't know about this, but like, I don't want to bet against arcane. Like, or I, you know, I don't want to say arcane makes bad games, they've done this, this, and this. So like they have such a good track record and whatever.

[00:17:43] I will say like, because I like the concept behind what they were doing with the game. It's just that I don't know, like, it just was like executed terribly. And then like, the fact that they're player, like player count like they're like, there's our king. So let's just like, you guys just finish out redfall, do your thing. And people internally wanted them to, we're hoping that Xbox was gonna look, take a look at it and cancel it.

[00:20:22] So it was something that you never really wanted to do

[00:20:24] in the first place.

[00:20:25] I do remember Phil Spencer talking about it

[00:21:25] So the winner is Redfall.

[00:21:30] Yes, the, well, the, the, the biggest loser is none other

[00:21:36] than Redfall, biggest swing and a miss.

[00:21:37] Congratulations. Redfall.

[00:21:40] All right.

[00:21:41] Best indie, I guess it's my turn to read.

[00:21:45] It's kind of like, you know,, pixel-looking game, and kind of like a Mega Man-ish kind of game. It's really good. Pick it off. Fine. Can I replace it with something else? No. No. Because Gravity Rush was another really good game.

[00:23:02] We're eliminating things, not adding things.

[00:23:04] Not Gravity Rush. Gravity Circuit.

[00:23:06] The fuck am I talking about? Gravity Rush was fine.

[00:24:03] I actually don't know if my friendly neighborhood hangs with some of these other ones though.

[00:24:06] So I'm okay with getting rid of it.

[00:24:12] I don't even know what Bramble the Mountain King is.

[00:24:14] Have a young lady who's might don't know what it is.

[00:24:17] Beth knows what it is.

[00:24:18] She's watching Greg Play, or me and Jerry Playdale.

[00:24:20] I'm Jerry.

[00:24:21] Greg Tuck last. I'm not a comedian. I want you both to know that every single time there's a slight pause. And then I say one of your names. It's because I'm. Your brain is like, figure it out. Which one is, don't fuck this up. Yes. And then you're like, Greg said, Oh, damn it.

[00:25:43] Yeah, it's it happens all the time.

[00:25:46] And before either you say anything, like, oh, you know, like do you have a name on

[00:27:01] file or do you have whatever? And I forget sometimes. in a lot of different ways that I wasn't prepared for. I just fucked up. Yeah, there was some really messed up stuff in that game. But it was one of those games

[00:28:22] like Little Nightmares or like Limbo Inside a stars and get on our way. Jerry, come on. Let's go. Do you have no opinion? Yeah, I'm okay with that. The old I think. I realized that I would like to be for like fucking 15 minutes. I haven't played enough like I've played maybe like an hour of lies.

[00:29:40] A P. And it is.

[00:29:43] It's one of those situations where I bet you if I had played both of the because I'm.

[00:30:44] I just think like everything that I've seen from Sea of Stars, like beautiful visuals, music, the combats,

[00:30:48] apparently really great. So I just can't think of like anything

[00:30:53] and like one thing in particular and from what you said, the story is fantastic.

[00:30:57] Like the characters are interesting and good.

[00:30:59] I had tears in my eyes last for playing that game.

[00:31:02] Like it was like, I cannot have argued harder for Bramble, but. I mean, it's a fantastic game. And I think it deserved to stick around and beat out some of the other ones for sure. But I like it definitely doesn't hold a candle to Sea of Stars. And

[00:32:23] when then see if it's it, if I'm being honest, like. So it's also on top of everything clever. Yeah, it's like, it's the full package, man, when it comes to like, not even just like an RPG. Like the fact that it is the type of RPG that it is, like with the, like you can do like the timed hits and stuff like that, like, I don't know. Everything about it, for one thing, it is probably,

[00:33:44] if not for sure, the best pixel art I've ever seen.

[00:34:47] best soundtrack. Best. Give me the nominees. Super Mario RPG. Whoa. Sea of stars. Yeah. Street Fighter 6. Mm-hmm. High-five rush.

[00:34:56] Yup. Atomic heart. And Alan Wake 2. You it. That's the same. And we'll also throw down. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, doesn't matter what level you are, you're getting clapped. Someone's getting clapped. Yeah, I think we leave Street Fighter on here for now.

[00:36:24] Beth, are you okay cutting out on Wake to now?

[00:36:27] No. good, really heavy if you're into that kind of thing. But that said, I don't it definitely doesn't hang with the rest of these here. Like, even just like getting rid of that. Like, this is actually a tough list, like very tough, because everything here is just so goddamn good.

[00:37:43] Well, thanks. Greg would go to bat for Street Fighter Like I think Shinamura did like one or two songs and then like the dude from Xenoblade did like a whole bunch of them And then the rest of it was like I think it was somebody else like that the like sabotage had in either in-house or Just someone they hired on because they hired

[00:39:02] I think they're called rainbow dragon eyes

[00:40:03] Um, and then there's three.

[00:40:06] So there's Steve Starr is three fighters.

[00:40:08] Six, six.

[00:40:09] Oh, wow.

[00:40:11] How I almost said seven.

[00:40:15] Um, and Alan Wake to now Beth.

[00:40:17] How good is the soundtrack for Alan Wake to?

[00:40:19] It's so good.

[00:40:20] Tell me. It's so good.

[00:40:21] Well, I mean, the music is like the only song that I have on my Spotify playlist. I listened to it every couple days. When I was watching the streamer, I was watching Play Through the Game. When...

[00:41:40] I think it's like the first time you hear it.

[00:41:43] Like, he's like, you go through this...

[00:41:46] He finished up this that them, yeah, the music and the ideas behind music tied into the themes of the game and some of the messaging.

[00:43:05] And I was like, fuck, this is all good.

[00:43:07] I want to soundtrack.

[00:44:23] I'll give it into Alan Wake to make that soundtrack, not saying that these other two games on this list didn't have a word. Jesus, scared the fuck out of me. Shit, that award goes to Greg for seizing. Oh my God.

[00:45:42] Leaving it in. like it's in it. I think I think it's decided. I think Alan Wake to is the winner of best soundtrack. What do you think guys? I don't like to. Great. Love it. Good. Well deserved. Good. Good. Good. All right. Moving on to another one of my favorites. Ah, yes, the

[00:47:01] classic. Greg, please tell me who are the nominees for the

[00:48:06] that. That said, and let me reiterate here, the Ship Pan Award is not just the scariest, but it's kind of like the most stressful scary. It's just like, I am going to have a heart attack.

[00:48:12] Yeah. It's just an accumulation of like dread, stress, anxiety, and fear.

[00:48:19] It's just all those things. May I make an argument?

[00:49:27] had more of a shit pant effect if you're, if it has such a, just a drastic tonal shift. So that's why like, I often find sometimes scary moments in unscary games are scarier

[00:49:32] than the scariest moment in scary games.

[00:49:36] At times, you know, I, but I will agree.

[00:49:38] Jerry's, the beginning of the, the beginning of paranormal site was fucking terrifying.

[00:49:45] And no business being so scary. And then, well, also the fact that the first time that I encounter that shit and then you see Phantom Ganondorf come up on the screen. You're like, get the fuck out of here. I'm not dealing with this right now What are you talking about Phantom Ganondorf? Like what? Yeah, like that's there's a lot of moments actually with tears of the kingdom that

[00:51:06] sum up this ward like it

[00:52:07] No, no, Deku Tree going into the Deku Tree for the first time is the most terrifying thing that I've done all year

[00:52:10] Yeah Terrified yeah, I will say though about alla week two. I

[00:52:15] Got some bad jump scares out of alla week two and there was some pretty stressful moments

[00:52:21] And every actually every time I look at this this nomination scratch flashes. I just keep saying in my head scratch flash fever the shit out of me. And also just like on top of that, all the like the flashing of like his face when you're playing at the most inconvenient times. But then all of the bad guys do that. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, like Bramble, Bramble had some fuck up stuff. And it was like stressful sometimes, but I wasn't like scared of the game. Like I wasn't scared to play it or anything like that. I was just looking away. It was just kind of, yeah, I was just fucked up.

[00:55:00] But like that segment that I threw in here,

[00:55:03] the waiting for the guts, that was pretty ridiculous.

[00:55:05] Like I would, like, because you're like,

[00:55:07] you're moving slower and you're having that NIMAX, like, you know, Oppenheimer, you gotta see that NIMAX if you can, like it just adds so much to it, like the sound and stuff. Dead Space is one of those things that's like, play with a really good set of headphones or a surround sound, because it will fuck your entire day up. It is unbelievably stressful,

[00:56:23] and just like the pig guy the first time you encounter. Yeah, actually you guys were watching. The bullman not a pigman. Or was it, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, him. Yeah, like that, I think Greg, you were watching me when I was encountering him for the first time. Cause he was, that wasn't in the original. So it was totally like, it caught me off guard.

[00:57:41] Cause I was like, the fuck is in this barn?

[00:57:44] Like there was nothing in this barn before.

[00:57:46] And then you get down there and this dude I'm not saying these other moments weren't scary. I did I wasn't playing when I saw these things so I'm sure it's obviously way more scary when you're actually playing it And having to move the sticks yourself, so I can't speak to It's scary here when you have to move those sticks on your own exactly

[00:59:01] And you can put that on your on Beth's tombstone. No, don't

[01:00:02] I've known the people who needed to change the pants. No, I, I, like, I, you know, talk to people about, you know, guys, I've talked to people

[01:00:09] about video games before, but, um,

[01:00:11] It's talks to people.

[01:00:12] It talks to people.

[01:00:13] And I actually know of a couple, like, throughout my years, uh, I was talking about video games

[01:00:20] with people.

[01:00:22] Um, I, I've met have to play dead space or blood.

[01:01:41] Don't worry. There's no danger of you having to play anything.

[01:02:54] price. But that said, the nominees are high fi rush pizza tower, lies of P and cyberpunk 2077 2.0. Yes, that is right. We have put in an update to a game because fuck it. Who

[01:03:04] cares? It's our show. We don't care. I'm okay with cutting pizza tower. I just want to give it a shout out because I threw that. Look, I got it and threw it on blindly because I was just like, this game looks ridiculous. This looks like a fun platformer. Okay, let's do it.

[01:04:20] Let's try it out.

[01:04:22] And I was shocked by how good it was.

[01:04:25] That said, I have only it's the definition of it had no business. Yeah, I pulled a no man's guy. Like, you know, like, I think, like, high fire rush was a, like, you know, a very big surprise because, you know, you didn't know about it. And then it existed. And then it was good. And you're

[01:05:40] like, how is this thing that got shadow dropped actually good?

[01:05:44] Well, I said P, depending on who you ask is actually not good.

[01:06:41] and it was added to Game Pass. A lot of people played it really quickly

[01:06:44] and they were like, holy shit, this isn't a bad game.

[01:06:47] Like this is a good game.

[01:06:49] Yeah, and also like, you know,

[01:06:50] Ghost Wire was pretty divisive.

[01:06:52] Pretty mediocre, yeah.

[01:06:53] But like this is like High Fire Rush's Tango,

[01:06:57] which like makes, made evil with food and stuff.

[01:07:00] So it's like, it's not that they're,

[01:07:02] this isn't even like, it's not that surprising.

[01:07:05] Yeah, that's, yeah, that's a good point.

[01:08:02] where I'm like, I'm pretty sure like, after I'm done, see if stars,

[01:08:04] I'm moving straight to Liza P, like right away.

[01:08:09] Because I like.

[01:08:11] You want to clean that up?

[01:08:13] It's not that I want to clean it up.

[01:08:14] It's just that like, I, I want to experience,

[01:08:17] cause like, I got to see, uh,

[01:08:21] Lords of the Fallen in, in motion a little bit.

[01:08:24] And it's pretty cool, but like, oh, this is fresh. Like this is, they're borrowing from a bunch of different from software games and like kind of making it their own. Like there's even like elements of Sekiro in there

[01:09:43] that I've noticed.

[01:09:45] There's elements of Bloodborne obviously. surprise me. So I guess with what's I would have to vote for, I guess it would have to be cyberpunk 2.0 slash Phantom Liberty, because the game was overhauled so completely. And no one expected anything of it only to be given like an admit like this is this brand new amazing game. I think it was complete out of nowhere. I read down the game and then was very pleasantly surprised. And then on top of that, I feel like there's also an argument to be made about Phantom Liberty itself, which is being hailed as like one of the best DLCs that we've gotten in years. Like it's supposed to be absolutely incredible.

[01:12:24] Fuck, this is a tough one.

[01:13:29] I feel like I would be okay with giving this to cyberpunk. Just because, yeah, like everything that you've told me about this is totally like the fact

[01:13:36] that I want to go back and replay.

[01:13:38] Like, okay, here you go.

[01:13:39] Here is the statement.

[01:13:41] The fact that I, the guy who has the problem with knocking these games out and getting those Right? It had no right. No damn business. No. Um, so that brings us to best moments or moment. Uh, Beth, I believe it is your term. Mm hmm. Best moment. Baldur's Gate three, Asterians rage is game of the year we can do some things you're gonna explain we sing in a minute How like how how big of a spoiler were we talking here I will You know that venom is a character in this game. I knew that yeah, and you know that venom is going to appear in this game. Yes

[01:16:22] so

[01:16:24] What happens is

[01:17:22] rampage through like jobbers. What?

[01:17:23] Like you're not fighting Spider-Man.

[01:17:25] You're fighting a sea of jobbers and they can't do shit to you because you are Venom.

[01:17:31] Because we are Venom.

[01:17:32] Oh, that's cool.

[01:17:33] And you basically bust out of a place.

[01:17:36] Do you know what's cool about that too?

[01:17:38] And also I should say before you set in that game Venom is fucking massive.

[01:17:43] Really?

[01:17:44] Venom is huge.

[01:17:45] Like Venom is already jacked in that game.

[01:17:48] He is big. Yeah, I just I think that it's like why I love video games like that's such a cool. You're right like that's an amazing moment It was like I didn't even play the game and I was like Jesus Christ. I want to play this moment because it's so out of control Okay, well that That it was enough to sell me on leaving that on this list

[01:19:03] for the time being

[01:20:07] But yeah, like that scene was really powerful to me. Like the acting, everything about it was just fantastic.

[01:20:10] Like it was something straight out of a fucking movie.

[01:20:13] Do you know how many voices Neil Newbonne has done in recent games?

[01:20:20] No.

[01:20:21] No, just staring.

[01:20:23] No. He was Nick. Oh, I'm Nick. Like dang. Um, okay. Well, we can't keep. Can't keep doing. Have you ever played this game? Well, the, you ever play, you ever played Detroit? Become you. You know, stop this, stop this. Do you know what the worst thing about Neil? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, against that. Oh no, I would even say there are better moments in that game than that. Really? Oh my gosh. The I think often about the fight against. Oh, Raphael. Raphael. Hell. Hell. That song is so fucking good.

[01:23:00] It's really good.

[01:23:01] It's like a goddamn Tim Burton song. completely alters the whole level and like sometimes the gameplay the fucking perspective of the game like it just You never know what you're gonna get at a when you get one of those seeds Yeah, one of those references

[01:24:22] and

[01:24:23] I just every single time it happened. I was't think it's going to get 10 with some of these other things. Greg, how strongly do you feel about Street Fighter 6 clapping people up? I mean, it. Um, well, anyway, you can remove it, but it just, it feels very good. Okay. Do you, if you had to choose, sorry, go ahead. If you had to choose between we are venom and beating someone's ass.

[01:27:01] What do you take?

[01:27:06] I mean, I would choose we are venom, even though that's a one time thing, but

[01:28:20] beating someone's ass that you can keep doing it. the wall, I was about to just, I was gonna do that. Cause I was like that moment. Find, go off queen. Go off, go go on. I don't know. So finding it, it's like the, like kind of like the, like the VR venom moment. Finding the master sword is like the essence of this open world exploration Zelda.

[01:28:23] Like to me, it's like this, it's like a moment

[01:28:25] that encapsulates this. I was like that's not fair. That's not fair Beth really likes metaphors Because I was like oh, you know, I think that out of all of these in my experience. I was like oh out of all of these

[01:29:44] like finding the master sword is like the

[01:30:42] when the Deku Tree is pretty much being like, the Master Sword is moving.

[01:30:44] And I was like, fucking say what?

[01:30:47] Like, I was completely oblivious to what was going on.

[01:30:49] Like, I remember seeing the dragon,

[01:30:51] but it was just like, ah, it was like kind of directing you,

[01:30:53] like, oh, we gotta go talk to the Deku Tree again.

[01:30:55] Like we've just completed this whole thing.

[01:30:57] We gotta go back and talk to the Deku Tree.

[01:30:58] And then when the Deku Tree is like,

[01:30:59] the Master Sword is moving and I was like,

[01:31:01] you shut the fuck up.

[01:31:02] And like when I, and then I kind of did the whole thing

[01:31:06] of like getting up performance, but like,

[01:32:20] you didn't, you didn't see like the context behind like what

[01:32:24] happens there or anything. But essentially, what happens is you're seeing Alan doing like this fucking choreograph, like dance, like a like super theatrical and like all these other like shadow people like up on the screen with him and then like yeah like Mr. Dor is also singing and stuff and it's like all contextualized within the narrative of the game. And like the same way that the ashtray maze was just like this crazy

[01:34:44] Yes, start fucking shit up like that to me. The feeling of beating someone's ass.

[01:34:47] Yeah, but with Venom.

[01:34:49] But with Venom and it has like story.

[01:34:53] Yeah, that's goddamn.

[01:34:55] Yeah, so congratulations Spider-Man 2.

[01:34:58] And Greg, thanks man.

[01:35:01] That's sick.

[01:35:02] You're welcome.

[01:35:03] Not very often will I concede to something

[01:35:05] that I haven't even seen or played, It's dead space based on the entire game right I feel like that Kind of just gives it to dead space disagree, I actually Would say that there's more things that make a good horror game than just The scary moments of the horror game

[01:36:23] Because that's that's kind of what that award was for it basically like two different fucking games in one like When you're playing Alan Wake 2 and you're playing a saga

[01:37:40] It's kind of like you're playing a Resident Evil game

[01:37:42] And you switch over to Alan and it's like playing a fucking Silent Hill game

[01:38:49] like all out is because like they're all horror games, but is does face the best game within this list, you know? Yeah, exactly. Again, I want to give a shout out to my friendly neighborhood.

[01:38:56] That game actually pulled off like an old school resident evil in first person kind of thing,

[01:39:03] like way better than I thought it would. Like'm struggling a bit though, like as good as Alan Wake 2 is, I feel like Resident Evil 4 was just like from start to finish, just like I could not put

[01:40:20] that fucking game down.

[01:40:22] And like, I mean, I've played Resident Evil 4 so many times

[01:40:27] and I did the same time like there was there was definitely like enough stuff that was fresh there that it it definitely did feel like a new game. It's also a remake of one of the best like considered to be one of the best horse maybe best games. Not even hard. Yeah like people, it's like on every best of games of all time thing. So I, I think if you remake, if you remake something that's Resident Evil 4 a while ago, and I'm still like, Oh, that game was fucking wild to me. Like, yeah, also like the cultural impact that the game has had in general, not just talking about the remake, like, you can't have you can't really have recency bias with RE for it because the

[01:44:21] first time you played it was 10 years ago.

[01:44:23] True. All right. I think it's It's more so just like monstrous noises and long tongue and he does this thing where like his jaw opens up like extra wide like a snake. It's fucking wild, but he does a lot of that. But yeah, the actual we are venom light line comes later. Unfortunately, well, Beth, I guess that does it for your fucking metaphor.

[01:45:41] It's not a list. Yeah, well, I Know you this isn't it's not oh my god. It's like one of the worst. It's the worst fireable game. I've ever played Here here's think fire emblem combat is consistently good across every single game and that's still true here

[01:47:04] if you want to play this just as like a

[01:47:06] like Uh, that doesn't. It pains me to say it. It doesn't even hold up against C of stars. My opinion. But we all know what the correct answer to this is. Well, we do, but let's just get there. Um, show your work. So we have to show our work.

[01:48:22] Show me your findings.

[01:48:24] Um, is that, is that a correct term?

[01:48:26] Is that what they say?

[01:48:27] Show me your findings. Beth. Oh, me. And the nominees are like a dragon, guide in like a dragon, Eshan, hi, fi rush, spider man to talk and atomic heart.

[01:49:45] So talk is tears of the Kingdom? No. No, I don't think so either. So I haven't played Spider-Man 2, but like Greg, how would you say Spider-Man 2 compares to Tears of the Kingdom? For action and adventure game, I would say that Tears of the Kingdom, even though I didn't

[01:51:01] finish it, probably has more meat on those bones.

[01:51:07] Mm-hmm. here, but we do have our own little personal lists that we will go through for our personal game of the year. I will kick it to you, Greg, to share with us what is your personal list of this year? Okay.

[01:52:20] So I've got a top five list.

[01:52:22] All right.

[01:52:23] Respect.

[01:52:24] Number five, I'veD one. Sonic Heroes.

[01:53:40] It's not Sonic Heroes.

[01:53:42] It has to be.

[01:53:43] No, it's not.

[01:53:45] The Sonic Heroes came out in 2000.

[01:53:47] Excuse me, 2003. that that delir that deserves a lot on its own. Number two is was always going to be on my list. And that's Street Fighter six. Sort of turn to form. It's fucking fun as hell. You know, such a good game. I can't speak enough about how good that game is.

[01:55:00] Like it's fantastic.

[01:55:05] And then my game of the year, my GOTY, the deck physics when you were naked in that fight. Oh my God. That was. Yeah. I wouldn't be in all of this. You would have left so much more. You already were having the best time. Use a super move helicopter. All right.

[01:56:20] Respectable list.

[01:56:22] Beth, give us your top 20, please, of 2023.

[01:57:23] But this post game is amazing. There's so much stuff to do.

[01:57:25] I love how much, like, there's just so much and it's fantastic.

[01:57:31] I wish that, like, I know that Scarlet and Violet and Sword and Shield had, like, two

[01:57:36] DLC expansions and that kind of was the post game, so, like, you count that as a whole thing.

[01:57:42] It is a large post game.

[01:57:44] But, like, I wish this type, I was like, wow, this is shocking, shocking, but very good. So that's fine. I have four I have control, which recently beats very fun to play.

[01:59:08] Really good. I liked the story. I love in Alan Wake, it was also really good like that too. Yeah, and like when they, so having played Alan Wake too, I don't know if they add it or not having played it, but having seen Alan Wake too and then playing Control. I don't know if they added in this particular line,

[02:00:20] but when you're talking to Dylan, he says the line,

[02:00:24] he says a line about how in one of his dreams, I was really into it. It was good. I think it's a game that's like impossible to really describe. Like I don't know how to talk about it. So I won't. It's just real good. There's a real good. Number two, I have the artful estate.

[02:01:41] Oh yeah, it. Yep. Um, It gets a bit eventually. Number one is called to the land. That's the best game I've played this year. I was obsessed. I played it for like I sat down on a Friday and

[02:03:05] I had a long weekend and I had a four day weekend and I just played that game for four days, did the whole thing, beat all the deal,

[02:04:10] And then there's that aspect, but then there's the aspect of like, oh, but you still have to go out and gather resources and find people to recruit to your cults and advance the story. And when you do that, it. It's a fantastic Mega Man like game that it's it's like it shouldn't work that good because fun. Couldn't put it down. Music was really good. I was always tapped my feet or like bobbed my head. Nine just nails. If you haven't seen it by now, the the last boss fight in high-fi rushes, something to experience. It's it's really crazy.

[02:08:01] I had a lot of ups. There was a lot of ups.

[02:08:02] And the beginning of that game was extremely strong.

[02:08:05] It kind of started to sag a bit in a couple of areas.

[02:08:09] And like some of the characters were like just, I don't know, like they weren't fleshed out.

[02:08:13] Like the Odin stuff was just like, I don't know.

[02:08:16] It was just bad.

[02:08:17] Compassionate.

[02:08:18] It was just like, I don't know.

[02:08:19] It was just like, I don't know.

[02:08:21] It was just like, I don't know.

[02:08:23] It was just bad.

[02:08:24] Compassionate.

[02:08:25] It was just like, I don't know.

[02:08:26] It was just like, fantastic start to finish as you would expect They somehow made the original game even better We'll leave it at that number five Super Mario Wonder

[02:09:41] Again, I think I kind of summed it up with my little blurb about the

[02:10:44] people have said that it's a little bit too samey, but I thought it was really cool. And then the story was really good, like the acting, the environments, obviously the graphics

[02:10:49] were insane.

[02:10:53] And the music, just everything about it overall, just a fantastic game.

[02:11:00] Number three, this game almost made a fucking cry last night. makes a fight like what makes Final Fantasy a Final Fantasy? And he said, like, you got to have it all. It's got to have the best story. It's going to have the best visuals. It's got to have the best gameplay. Like it's got to like to him. That was the things that make a Final Fantasy. Well, you could pretty much say the same thing about Sea of Stars, in my opinion. It has the best of all those things for an RPG

[02:12:20] has the best looking visuals.

[02:12:22] It's got the best like it's,

[02:12:25] I wouldn't say it's the best story.

[02:13:22] to get home and play this. And I mean, the adventure that you go on in that game

[02:13:28] is just so grand.

[02:13:30] I don't know, I jumped into that game,

[02:13:34] not really knowing anything about it.

[02:13:36] Greg kind of sold me on it.

[02:13:38] I was like, yeah, this game's going to be amazing.

[02:13:41] And then as I picked it up and started playing it,

[02:13:44] and then the internet started exploding

[02:13:47] and just being like, I'm just gonna play Zelda. So I would go

[02:15:02] in the back into the lunchroom and I would play Tears of the Kingdom.

[02:16:06] crazy. And then somehow they managed to take Breath of the Wild and they went, yeah, remember how good this was? Well, this is even better. And I don't know. It's just the fact that

[02:16:12] there was like the whole, you know, the depths Mm-hmm. Are you still awake? Yeah.

[02:17:40] I mean, that was, you know, 45 minutes.

[02:17:42] Oh, please.

[02:17:43] You're talking about fucking Pokemon RCS

[02:17:45] for like 20 minutes.

[02:17:48] Was it that long? That's like, yeah. Yes, that's the game. What? So what is the one that is not that? Right. So this year, the way that we're going to do this, just because I feel like it's almost like it's too obvious. And it's like, yeah, of course it's this because perform better. So it was like frustrating and dying in it felt terrible because of how long it took to load and how annoying it was to get back to certain places. And no full experience just was like gate and the nominees are the legend of Zelda tears of the kingdom. Mario wonder see of stars Mario RPG remake resident evil for remake dead space Alan Wake to Street Fighter six and cyberpunk 2077 2.0 now in a last minute Hail Mary Greg do we add Spider-Man 2 to this?

[02:22:42] Resident Evil 4 versus Alan Wake 2. Where did we feel this lands?

[02:22:47] You guys already decided that RE4 is better

[02:22:49] than Alan Wake 2.

[02:22:52] So I disagree.

[02:22:53] Exactly, there you go.

[02:22:57] But you guys already,

[02:22:58] I don't think that Alan Wake can win game of the year

[02:23:02] if it didn't even win best wording.

[02:23:07] Mm. Alan Wake is I think should be came of the year. I think for me, I don't feel comfortable having Zelda on the list. For gaming. That's a hot that's a hot take. I don't either. And I actually disagree with your. I don't think tears of the kingdom is better than Breath of the Wild.

[02:24:22] I actually I actually think Breath of the Wild is better than tears of the kingdom.

[02:24:27] Uh. started doing the bones of a DLC for Breath of the Wild, and then they're like, you know what, let's make this a full game. Greg, that isn't what it feels like, that's literally what happened. Yeah, well then. This was supposed to be Breath of the Wild DLC, and then they got the idea for like, basically they got the idea to do the

[02:25:41] like fusing mechanic type thing,

[02:25:43] and then they got another idea and another idea,

[02:25:46] and then they decided to turn it into a whole game

[02:25:48] instead of just DLC. So my cousin's like replaying and I've been watching, I watched a little bit and he was doing me like the water. Dungeon? No, I don't even want to call it a dungeon or a temple. Like it's just, it's like a water, it's water platforms in the sky. Water, like it's, and like they were exactly,

[02:27:01] everyone was exactly the same.

[02:27:03] The only one that was the one I wanted.

[02:27:05] They called them temples, they called them dungeon.

[02:27:08] I don't know if of the Kingdom is honestly that interesting of a game. Like I'm going to beat it and I want to see like the last boss fight and everything, but I don't think that's going to change my opinion of it overall being a pretty like

[02:29:22] Here's the thing. And this is kind of down to just like my personal life in terms of the things that I enjoy and the things that I play.

[02:29:30] This is the super ghost game of the year.

[02:29:36] And while I'm going to absolutely play Alan Wake 2, there is more, even if I decide to play it. But that's a personal thing. Yeah, I was going to say, not similar, but kind of opposite is that I know that when I play CSRS, I'm going to have a because I was like, it felt like it had changed my view on games and how I felt about them in some aspects. And it just like was so fucking well done from like, he, the guy I watched stream it

[02:32:21] complained about the combat. That was like such a crazy moment of just like internal struggle being like materialized in a really really wild way. Like and then kind of it contextualized what the dark place was. Like and how like what happens and like how you know everything about it just like it made so many say, like what understanding more about like Soggy's character, but then also like kind of the story and the things that the people who made the game wanted to say. Like I was like in this moment I was like oh this is like this is a game Like, that's coming back with the Mario RPG remake. Like, there's so many different things that are like all kind of pointing towards like these large fucking franchises and companies going slowly making their way back to the roots of what made them really, really good.

[02:36:20] And I feel like CF-Stars just nails that. And like, yes, we talked about we sing, which is a really, really good part. But I think like the sum of everything else that makes this game good, we haven't even talked about like. My only concern is that we're accidentally hyping this up way too much for you.

[02:37:40] No, I don't think so.

[02:37:42] I think like the Internet has done a fair that I've played that you've watched. And you watched me play quite a bit of stuff. But I don't know if I've ever seen you take to a game as fast as you did without week two. It was shocking to me where I was like, in my head I had to be like,

[02:39:00] Oh, she really likes this game.

[02:39:03] Because you were theory-crafting like you were like the fact that within, and I'm not kidding within five to 10 minutes, you said, okay, pause it, pause it, pause it. I have never say like, hey, pause this game that

[02:40:21] you're playing for a second because I want to tell you what I fucking think is going was an opportunity to shine some light on. This year is too crazy. And you know what, I'll wrap it up nice and neat here. This year has been absolutely insane. So many things have happened in my personal life. And then like also with like games and stuff, like I started this year off really shitty,

[02:41:41] like literally the very beginning of this year, January,

[02:41:45] like I can't even remember what day it was.

[02:41:47] Like my dad passes away that I'm sure like, we're going to play fires of Rubicon and be like, holy fuck. What did we do? What did we do? We picked the wrong game for all these categories.

[02:43:00] Yeah, like there's games that like have been left out

[02:43:06] of these lists just because And I can't think of a better way to do it than with my two besties. Yeah, this has been a hell of a year.

[02:44:20] So congratulations to all of the categories.

[02:44:25] I really wish Greg, I could play some Spider-Man 2. RPG Baldur's Gate obviously and best action adventure game tears of the kingdom and Super ghosts game of the year that is a Baldur's Gate Alan Wake 2 We did it another one in the books friendos

[02:45:42] Three years down three years. Yeah, it's crazy three one to go