Press B 305: Game of the Year: 1985

This week we go back in time to debate the absolute best games of 1985! It was a legendary year that defined the rules of gaming, but which masterpieces take our top crowns? Featuring our expert panel of hosts with at least two guys who were actually alive back then! That's Press B, your home of retro gaming entertainment targeting elder millennials.

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00:00 --> 00:10 I feel like a lot of people making games are going to look at eight gigs as what they're still going to want. Target for the next five years. To go higher than 16 is, is suicide for sales.
00:10 --> 00:23 I think I could see, I could see 16 being the table. I could see 16 being the table. Right. But honestly. And maybe, maybe to turn everything up 32. But 16 has to be.
00:24 --> 00:25 Yeah, just give me the option.
00:25 --> 00:26 Yeah, it's crazy.
00:27 --> 00:27 Yeah.
00:27 --> 00:28 All right.
00:28 --> 00:35 All right guys. Well, you know, it doesn't need 16 gigs of memory. Games of the year from 1985 today on.
00:38 --> 00:39 Love it.
00:55 --> 01:15 Welcome everybody to another episode of Press to cancel your favorite retro and we're very retro Retro gaming podcast today. I'm your host Sick Jake and I'm joined by two lovely fellows and we're going to talk about our picks for game of the year from all the way back in 1985. It's a long time ago. Two of us I think might have been alive back then. Sinister, how are you doing?
01:15 --> 01:17 I was three, I was alive.
01:18 --> 01:23 I'm doing great. My 10 year old self was feeling good those days.
01:24 --> 01:30 Okay, great, Charlie, were alive. How was, how was 85 as a 3 year old? Tell us, tell us all what you know.
01:30 --> 01:36 It's a stellar year. A lot of going on. A lot of too much to tackle.
01:36 --> 01:37 A lot of.
01:37 --> 01:54 Yeah, a lot of. I think I was walking maybe, possibly, possibly ready. It's a good time. I'm definitely at it. We're definitely at a line for the greatest games of these years that I'm gonna not be able to cross. Well, so that's the things this was.
01:56 --> 02:15 Come on, it's 85. This is important year in gaming. You were three, but you've played these games. That is the question we have because we usually go between bouncing backwards and going forwards. We're currently up to 96, I think on the newer ones and we can go all the way up, that's fine. But going back in time, that's where it gets tricky.
02:16 --> 02:19 We start dropping off. Some of us are bowing out.
02:20 --> 02:35 Yeah, well, we were joking. It's like if we get to 82, 83, it's going to be just me and Sinister talking about the 2600 and I love the Atari, right. So if you are listening or watching this episode and you also like the Atari, leave me a comment please. You want episodes that early?
02:36 --> 02:38 Tell Jake and I if you want us to go earlier.
02:39 --> 02:46 If you want the 70s, we'll go to the 70s. God damn it. We'll talk about. We'll talk about space war or computer space. What the fuck it was.
02:46 --> 02:49 We'll go, fuck, I'm going Pong, baby. Let's go.
02:51 --> 03:00 The Odyssey. All kinds of great stuff back then, but like, yeah, it's, it's. I got to wonder how many of these we can go backwards on, but they can always go forwards. There's always more retro.
03:00 --> 03:03 Yeah, we got plenty of. Plenty of space.
03:03 --> 03:06 Every. Every year. There's new retro every year.
03:06 --> 03:08 That's true, that's true.
03:08 --> 03:18 And with the whole, like we said at the top of the episode, with the lack of physical media, I think my new definition of retro will be 10 years because that's usually how it takes long takes for an emulator to come out.
03:19 --> 03:19 Yeah, man.
03:19 --> 03:36 To be sorry. All right, 1985, this is the year of. I mean, Nintendo, Nintendo was king. You also had Master System, I believe still. You still had people playing on the Atari, I guess there was the Atari 5200, Apple II. Some people played that monstrosity.
03:37 --> 03:38 Apple II was big.
03:38 --> 03:52 7800, I think was 86. And then of course, yeah, Arcades had a bunch. And then I think a lot of our picks are computers. Computer games, right. It was huge computer gaming. Right. Apple and DOS were. Were at heyday, so there's lots to pick from.
03:52 --> 04:00 The Commodore 16, right? Yeah, we. The Amstrad. I mean, the British. The British systems were rife back then.
04:00 --> 04:41 Yes. Like anytime somebody mentions the video game crash, that was the Office. It's all us, man. When it comes to the uk, they had some computers and they were playing a lot of awesome games. Right. So in a lot of ways, when they. The talent that came over there to later. Later hardware, save the industry with some of the stuff they were bringing over, plus some killer music. So 1985, we. We usually go, okay, first off, our. We have a Moby Games rule. We base our picks based on the year that is listed on Moby Games. That has been helpful at times. It has been a hindrance at times. Don't blame us, blame Moby Games. We take them as a source of truth on. On the years these things came out. Because some of these years released a bit nebulous, right?
04:41 --> 04:57 Yeah. An example, I have track and field playing in the background. For those listening, I have track and field playing in the background. This was released in Japan on the NES in 85. That counts because on the NES 85, even though it came to the US in 87.
04:58 --> 04:59 That's right. So that's how we do it.
04:59 --> 05:00 Yeah.
05:00 --> 05:18 So and then of course, arcade is a whole other monster. But let's. So we can do our runner ups and then we'll do our each of our game of the year picks for. For 85 and there. And there are quite a. A few games that are great. Char, you want to start with your runner up? What's your runner. Runner up pick for 1985 so I
05:18 --> 05:27 don't screw this up and say it wrong. Ghouls and Ghosts. The arcade, that's. That's going to be my runner up for. For this particular episode.
05:27 --> 05:27 No.
05:27 --> 05:28 Huh?
05:28 --> 05:29 Ghosts and Goblins, my friend.
05:30 --> 05:31 Goblins.
05:31 --> 05:33 Ghosts and Goblins, folks.
05:33 --> 05:35 Ghosts and Goblins. I figured I'd screw that up.
05:35 --> 05:37 He knows the game he's going for.
05:38 --> 05:38 I do.
05:38 --> 05:41 Are you sure? Have you played Ghosts and Goblins?
05:41 --> 05:43 Two different names? Yes, I have. I played both of them.
05:44 --> 05:44 Okay.
05:44 --> 05:46 I don't know if I played the arcade, but I have played both there.
05:46 --> 05:48 There are some minor differences. It's fine.
05:49 --> 06:06 Very slight differences. This is more leaning towards the. The NES version. The Nest port, obviously it's much cleaner because it's on. It's on the arcade because they actually. The second one, the other one was the SEGA port like SEGA ported over the other one later on for the Genesis later on in life.
06:06 --> 06:08 But that's a different game. That's the sequel.
06:08 --> 06:11 It's completely different. But yeah, well, sequel, I guess.
06:12 --> 06:13 Yeah.
06:13 --> 06:20 Look, just because Sonic has the Green Hill Zone in multiple games does not mean Sonic 2 is just a remake of Sonic 1. It's a very distinct game. It's the same thing with Ghouls and Ghosts. Different game.
06:21 --> 06:55 I have to throw. I have to throw out. I. That we've got the video playing for. For the arcade. Ghosts and Goblins. And there was a. A little like neighborhood market near my grandmother's house. And when I would go there, we'd go there for two weeks during the summer and hang out with my cousins who would come into town and they had Ghosts and Goblins Arcade and they had Thundercade Arcade and both of those. I just watched this turn like come up on the screen and I had like a huge nostalgia hit. Anyway, I just wanted to.
06:55 --> 07:13 Yeah, as the same way when I growing up my. My parents actually met in the same place that I spent most of my childhood playing arcade games at. At Sam's Club. Mr. Merv knows what I'm talking about. This was one of the games that was there and I used to come in and I would feed quarters into this because they put Firebrand within the first five seconds. Of the goddamn game.
07:14 --> 07:15 And it's the worst.
07:15 --> 07:46 And you if for anybody who knows anything about this series, fuck Firebrand. He's a douchebag. And this was a quarter sinker. But I mean it was just a more improved version of the ness of the NES game that came out later. The S.H.I.E.L.D. guys floating around. I never made it very far in this, this arcade game specifically. And I've. I've made it kind of a. Maybe a personal goal at some point in my life to replay it in my. As an adult. Since I have finished Super Ghouls and Ghosts and I have done Ghouls and Goblins, I've beaten that one as well with the flying burrito spear guys.
07:46 --> 07:47 Yep.
07:47 --> 08:24 One of my favorite enemies ever created. I don't know what was what they were thinking, but this, these little chimichangas with forks made me hungry. I don't know what the deal was, but this game has a lot of nostalgia for me. I played this quite a bit growing up in the arcade games. I never made it past the first boss, but it just to sit a star's point. When I see it, I'm like, oh yeah. And I know a lot of people will probably see it and go, oh yeah. So I felt like it needed to be at least a runner up because it needs some, it needs some more love from me to get a little further into it. But it certainly hits a nostalgic bone in my body that I felt it needed to be voted into this place. So, yeah, this one, this one for sure.
08:24 --> 08:44 This game is epic. I mean, whether you're playing it in the arcade or whether you're playing it on the NES or, I mean, this game. I remember watching you play this on stream for the, you know, for the NES version and just, just it was, it was, it was Clencher. It was, you know, Sphincter Clencher the whole time.
08:45 --> 08:49 Hated my life for that stream. But it was fun. We got good and we competed.
08:49 --> 08:52 And when you beat it, your green screen got tossed.
08:53 --> 08:55 Yeah. Yep.
08:55 --> 09:04 Did you two loop it? Because this is the game. Yes, both this and the sequel. You have to, you have to, you have to lap it to get the real engine, which was strubbing that. What if you have to go back
09:04 --> 09:05 and get that with the goddamn bracelet
09:05 --> 09:11 with the wand or whatever it is. Yeah, the bracelet. That is the worst, the worst weapon in the game.
09:13 --> 09:13 Yeah.
09:13 --> 09:19 I love these monsters with the mother tattoos or the mom tattoos on their shoulders. It's so 80s. It's so funny.
09:19 --> 09:20 It's very 80s.
09:20 --> 09:22 Oh, this game, this game is so nostalgic.
09:22 --> 09:23 It's a good one.
09:23 --> 09:28 It's. It's a great pick. It's. You're right. It's hard as though, like I. I never got past. I think this is the second stage.
09:28 --> 09:29 I.
09:29 --> 09:44 The second stage is where as far as I ever got, is very difficult game. If I try and spin up casually to spend a few minutes with it, I usually can't get past the first sequence of gravestones that pop up. Like, I'm terrible at this game. The. The jumping just never feels right for me.
09:45 --> 09:46 But it's committed jump. Right?
09:46 --> 09:47 It's very committed.
09:47 --> 09:54 You're going forward. There's no, there's no switching in midair. Like Mario. You jump, you're going where you're going, you're done.
09:54 --> 10:06 Like Arthur physics was real. Arthur jumps. So Simon Belmont could bounce off into the water and die or something. Yes, but like, it's just. It's just that it's the era of like bad jump physics, I guess. But that was.
10:06 --> 10:07 Yeah.
10:07 --> 10:15 You know what, though? Maybe it's the reason why you like souls games as you like the animation commitment of these games and goes back all the way to ghouls and goblins or ghosts and Goblins.
10:15 --> 10:20 But you don't get. You don't get iframes in Ghouls and Goblins. You get a set of armor and then that's it.
10:20 --> 10:22 You get dead frames, you get dead.
10:22 --> 10:24 You get armor, underwear and death. Yeah.
10:24 --> 10:25 Yes.
10:25 --> 10:26 Yeah. What a brutally hard.
10:26 --> 10:31 I mean, think about it. Running around in your, your, your, your heart underwear after you've been hit by
10:31 --> 10:34 an enemy is always your skivvies. Your skivvies.
10:34 --> 10:35 Yeah, yeah.
10:35 --> 10:40 No, that's a great game. And Sinisters pointed out it was Battletoad. So it was the green screen.
10:40 --> 10:42 That is BattleToads. Yes, that was Battletoads.
10:42 --> 11:17 That was another one too. But yeah, it's great pick. Definitely early Capcom arcade games were peak. I liked. I like Capcom's arcade stuff and I love them in the 90s and 2000s. But honestly, going all back to the 80s, they made some really great solid games. And like, this is a character that is, I think instantly recognizable to anybody who plays video games, at least in our age bracket, whether they like the game or not or they played very much of it. He's very recognizable. He's done cameos in some fighting games as well. Like, it's a. It's a great iconic game and an awesome franchise. And I'm surprised we haven't gotten more, to be honest. With you. I know they did. I think was the resurrection was based on this one, I think.
11:17 --> 11:18 Yeah.
11:18 --> 11:21 And they added to it the game. Actually, I think it was on Steam sale. I might, I might give that one.
11:21 --> 11:23 It was. I actually picked it up during the Steam sale.
11:23 --> 11:24 Okay.
11:24 --> 11:34 The last. I think it was a winter sale. Yeah. So it's. It's a. It's. It's just as hard. There's accessibility in it though. Thank God. But it's still tough. Yeah.
11:34 --> 11:35 So great pick.
11:36 --> 11:36 Yeah.
11:36 --> 11:40 That's your runner up. How about Sinister? What's your runner up?
11:42 --> 11:47 My runner up for 1985 is a little itty bitty game called Ultima 4.
11:49 --> 11:49 Ultima?
11:49 --> 11:50 Yeah.
11:51 --> 11:58 That's hard to believe. That game is 85. It just makes me laugh. I mean. Yeah, clearly it is, but I feel like it's been around for so long.
11:59 --> 11:59 Well, and that.
11:59 --> 12:01 And technically isn't 84, you know, I
12:01 --> 12:06 mean, like, I mean Calabas was I think 79, if I remember right.
12:06 --> 12:19 Yeah. When we talk about old games and old episodes, like how far back we want to go. Ultima, like you said, goes back to the 70s, like the Roots of it. And that's. It's wild how long it's been going on.
12:19 --> 15:51 Right. Right. So, okay, so Ultima 4, like, I love Ultima 3. Ultima 3 is a great regular style, like RPG. Like get strong, kill things, kill the end boss. Right. Like that's Ultima 3. In fact, as Garriott said when he made Ultimate 4, Ultima 4, he said, I don't want to make another game, which he called Go kill the evil bad guy. And so, well, and there. So there was actually a. He realized people were min. Maxing and just walking through Ultima 3. So he created as part of Ultima IV, this entire concept of virtues. He wanted to. He wanted the player to have to earn eight virtues. Honesty, compassion, you know, bravery, etc. Etc. And so this is. This is one of the first open world games. There's no path to take. There's no like, start here, go to the first dungeon, finish this thing, go to the, you know, etc. It is. Go figure out how to. How to get the eight virtues. Now after you get the eight virtues, you then go into a. Into a dungeon called the Stygian Abyss, which was also later turned into an Ultima Underworld game. But. And then you get the Codex of Ultimate Wisdom. But one of the things I love is he created a room that looks like a room that you have to go in and murder everything. He did this as a, as, as almost a gotcha where it turns out you're murdering children and you don't realize this and you basically can't complete the game after that. Like he, he wanted it to not be this. Just get as strong as you can and just walk through everything to the end. Right? And so, so yeah, basically this game was one of the first that had a. You went and talked to people and you ask them thing, you ask some questions. It gives you, it gives you responses that have pointers for other questions you can ask, which then lead toward, hey, how do I go get this? How do I go become more compassionate, how do I become, you know, etc. The magic system is complex in this. It's based on like ruins and you have to know like, hey, this combined with this will produce this spell. Right? And so I just love it. And he, this is, I think the first one that he didn't code completely on his own, but this was coded on the Apple ii. Like this. He coded this on the Apple ii. Now it's been ported to like every system since. But everything else, yeah, but no, it's just. I love this whole thing. Oh, there's no class to like there is a class. You don't know it, but when you do character creation, you answer this, this, this, this gypsy's question. She held these cards and says, you know, you walk up on a person in the forest and he's being defeated. Like he's broken the law, he's stolen bread, but it's, you know, his family's starving. Do you cover up his crime or do you turn him in? Like, it, it gives you these questions and then you, based on how you answer them, it kind of steers your path. And you don't actually know what you are. You just know that you're just the stranger and you're playing the game. So.
15:51 --> 16:31 Yeah, but it affects your stat. Like there are stats. Yes, it's still an rpg, but, but it's the focus. He's trying to take the focus off of a hack and slash game. So it's not like, like wizardry or something, right? It's. It's trying to take the focus off it. It's an interesting thing. And it's not an idea you see in many other RPGs. Most dungeon crawlers, it's all about the stats. It's all about the hack, slash, loot. It's not. There isn't much deviation from that to take this especially in 85. And look at. It's about character building. It's about role playing. Like, using the word role playing in an RPG is almost rare these days. Right. There's only a handful of games I think, that really, really push that role playing aspect of these games. Right, that's very interesting.
16:31 --> 16:32 Yeah, yeah.
16:32 --> 16:34 This is on these games that involve
16:34 --> 17:05 like typing to makes you really think. Like, it makes you ask like you are role playing because you're asking like legitimate questions. You're not picking a code or a picking from a selection of how many questions you want to ask. You're typing them in yourself. So it's learning what to ask and how to ask it. I mean, King's Quest was notorious for this kind of stuff back in the day. So yeah, to see this, I mean, they're doing the same thing with this. So it legitimate role playing game. You are playing an RPG for reals.
17:05 --> 17:05 Yeah.
17:05 --> 17:45 And. And the thing is, is you can. There is battle in the game. It's a tactical style battle. You go into this, you go into a screen where your. Your party is no longer a blobber, to use the, you know, the RPG term. You're now all of your separate party members and you're moving across the map and you're fighting. But depending on what you kill, it may actually lower one of your. One of your virtues. Right. And so like, it even steers a little bit toward, hey, maybe it's better to flee than to fight. Right. I mean, so. Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a. It's a very complex game, especially for 1985.
17:47 --> 18:06 Well, Ultima never str. Never stied away from being complex. I mean, right. I remember playing. I think it was Ultima. I don't remember which Ultima was. You tell me which one it is. But like, you start out right in the castle and we jokingly attacked the king and killed him within the first seconds of the game and could have
18:06 --> 18:08 been three, I think, anyway.
18:08 --> 18:17 Yeah, yeah. And I was like, wait, what? Like, we didn't. We did it as a joke. We didn't know it was possible. So Ultima allows you to do.
18:17 --> 18:19 I killed Lord British.
18:19 --> 18:24 I don't want to say almost anything, but at least like right out the gate, you were just. You made your own decisions and lived with your.
18:25 --> 18:28 You start the game and you're like, oh my God, they killed Kenny.
18:29 --> 18:36 Exactly. Exactly. We were like, oh, crap, we're in trouble. The guy's dead.
18:36 --> 18:38 Yeah. Yeah.
18:38 --> 18:39 Definitely a great pick.
18:39 --> 18:55 Sinceris points out for sure. A lot of the, A lot of the modern games are playing with that whole concept of like your answers that you give or your, your choices that you make change the outcome. So that very much the telltale, Telltale games she mentioned. Until Dawn.
18:55 --> 18:56 Until Dawn.
18:56 --> 18:57 Yeah, absolutely.
18:57 --> 18:58 Or at least that studio.
18:59 --> 19:05 But you know, in the, in the world of, of old school RPGs, like it's get strong, kill bad guy.
19:05 --> 20:05 Yeah. You know, even in newer RPGs. Right. Like I'm thinking, as much as I love clar obscure exhibition 33&, and, and whatnot, that's a great ride. That's a fun story and stuff. But it's mostly battles are mostly there for the challenge and the fun of it and building up stats and leveling. It's not necessarily. I'm role playing, I'm just there for the story. The only game I've had, I think role playing to a degree is balls. You get three, and that's the first game in years. And like, even games like Skyrim, as much as I love Skyrim, I'm not really role playing in Skyrim. I'm just, I'm just kind of just exploring an open world and just taking it at my own pace. But I'm not really feeling like I'm actually playing a character. BG3, you're actually playing a character because the game has been written so that so many of things you do or act or say does impact the story in some fashion, either small or big. Like, like I've said before, BG3 is a game in a generation. We don't, we don't see that very often. But I'm glad to see like you picked Ultima because it's a game that was doing that role playing aspect of things back in the day.
20:07 --> 20:32 One more thing is, is Garriott Lord British wanted you to be the player. Like you were the player. And so like one of the things that he said is I don't want to make it so that you can pick a race. I want it to be human because it's you, it's you as the player, you know, so he wanted to take away anything that would like separate you from, from that aspect.
20:33 --> 20:53 Yeah, very, very interesting mindset for making games. Okay. I am curious. I know we mentioned before the show that he is trying to get the rights back to Ultima in some fashion. I'm. I am hoping it's not a cash grab. I'm hoping he does something unique and original with it because the history of this franchise is pretty awesome and Interesting. And I. I hope to see him go back to it, but have to see.
20:54 --> 21:01 No, I mean just take, like you said, take boulders gate and turn that into Ultima and do something with that. That would be. Yeah, that would be stellar.
21:01 --> 21:29 Oh, yeah. Now, for those that have any interest in playing Ultima 4, there are some modern engines that people have created that use the original. I think it's like XU4 or XULT or something. You can go find it. There's an old. There's a website called the Ultima Codex that will that. And so there are ways to play this on modern. On modern computers without having to spin up an emulator of some sort. So. Yeah.
21:30 --> 22:51 Awesome. All right. Well, my runner up for 1985. Guys, the day has finally come. This is. This is one of the games I. It's almost a meme at this point how you guys mercilessly mocked me for my taste in video games. But today, today I get to spend five fucking minutes talking about one of my favorite games of all time, Joust. Fuck Joust. This is much better than Joe's. It is Balloon Fight. Listen, there's a guy, his name is Iwata. He is a former Nintendo president. He is sadly no longer with us, but he was present Japan for a number of years. But I know the name because he was a programmer back in 85 with Nintendo on Balloon Fight. Now, this was an arcade game. I never really, really played the arcade game. I'm actually kind of shocked. It's not in the mystery at this point. But I played the crap out of the NES game. It was a fantastic port of Balloon Fight. If you've been living on a rock or you are new to our podcast and you've not heard me rave about this game, you are a dude with a fan on your back like a tail. You have two balloons and a dream and you fly into the air and you have to take out these guys with pointy mosquito nose beaks that will pop your balloons. Yes, it's fucking like Joust, I admit it. But it is so much more. The control is much better than Joust.
22:51 --> 22:52 Joust.
22:52 --> 23:57 You're flying around your ostrich and you just lose control. In Balloon Fight, you have more control. Like one button is a slow flap, a slow movement, and the other one is a fast movement. So there's a degree of control you don't get in Joust that you get here in Balloon Fight. I want to say it's. I mean, this is 85. I want to say it's 16 stages. They're single screen and then it loops around. But that's kind of the style at the time, right. They weren't all ghosts and goblins with all this stuff, but 16 rotating stages. But each stage interesting variation of. Of the pattern of enemies. There's obstacles like clouds that shoot lightning bolts. If there's water at the bottom of the stage, you get too close to the water, you eat by a giant fish. Which is realism if you ask me. Practically it's a balloon simulator. If I have to give it another thing, it's a souls like of arcade games as you die so easily. When you lose a balloon, your ability to move around is slow. So it's almost like Star Fox when you lose a wing. This game is obviously inspirational to so many different other games out there. I like Balloon Fight.
23:57 --> 24:02 I like that at the beginning of each stage you have a moment to just commit murder.
24:04 --> 24:06 Yes. Like before inflated.
24:06 --> 24:11 Yeah. Before their balloons you're like I'm just gonna kill you while you're there on the ground.
24:12 --> 24:12 Yeah.
24:13 --> 24:14 Just run them.
24:14 --> 24:17 They're just trying to hot air balloon and you're out there screwing with their day. Like.
24:17 --> 24:18 Yeah.
24:18 --> 24:20 This seems just very cold for no reason.
24:20 --> 24:24 It's. It's fight. Really honestly, that's playing the bastard.
24:25 --> 24:37 As much as I. As much as I make the joke, the Joust is the better game. I think from a replayability this is a better game. I really do.
24:37 --> 24:37 Yeah.
24:38 --> 26:06 There's more to see I think is what it is right there. There are other versions of Joust I think are better representing that franchise. But Balloon Fight is. This is great. And if you don't like the. I mean you can play this co op as well. I used to play this with my girls when we went to a different school. We had to get very, very early. So as a motivation, if we woke up early enough, got ready fast enough, we could sit and play Balloon Fight. We were playing it I think on the virtual console version. But we play that because you could play as co op. Let me tell you, this game with a child is much harder as they. They can talk your balloons which is a good time for all. But it's definitely. It was definitely fun with my kids. There's been other versions of this over the years. I think even they did a Zelda spin off with Tingle being the guy with the balloons. And it just not. Not the same. It's just not the same. But there was a Game Boy version that was more adventure. Like it was pretty decent. But. But the. The original or The. The port on Nintendo is the one I go back to and it's a game I play all the damn time. I'll spin it up at least once a week just to play five minutes. It's just a fun five minute game. Whether I'm on the. On the arcade machine behind me, I'm on. I'm on the steam deck. It is a nice pick up and play game and I love it. So this is like the best in the. In the NES for me anyway. No, guys, we can't do any. We're done doing these game of the year episodes now. I pretty much covered all the games I like in my lifetime. Thank you. Charlie was 96.
26:07 --> 26:08 Screw 97 forever.
26:08 --> 26:11 Yeah, I don't need 97. What came out in 97? Nothing came out in 97.
26:11 --> 26:12 That's right.
26:14 --> 26:15 Balloon fight.
26:15 --> 26:17 God damn it, I hate it.
26:17 --> 26:18 Years for this episode.
26:18 --> 26:19 Years.
26:21 --> 26:25 You guys are lucky there's no online play. I'd be making you guys play this with me. That's.
26:25 --> 26:31 That's what I would do. You already try to make us play all kinds of. I'm currently playing Rebirth because of you, Jake.
26:31 --> 26:35 I'm not playing Dragon's Lair. Ness. I'm sorry, Squad.
26:35 --> 26:35 Go again.
26:36 --> 26:38 I already did. Yeah, I already did my two hours.
26:39 --> 26:46 He did his penance. He's done. He still has the scars on his back from that game. It's great.
26:46 --> 26:47 It's okay.
26:48 --> 26:53 I walked down the street naked with. With dragons Layer nest yelling, shame, Shame.
26:53 --> 26:54 Shame.
26:54 --> 27:00 Shame. All right. Okay. That's balloon fight.
27:00 --> 27:01 That. It's a good.
27:01 --> 27:15 We can just end the episode now. Honestly. Honestly, that should have been my game of the year. But. But my other pick, I think is the people would demand that to be my game of the year. So I'll wait before I give mine. Let's loop back around. Chard. What's your game of the year for 85?
27:16 --> 29:06 Well, I. This has to be most people's game of the year for 85. For those of you who were in any kind of elementary school in the 80s. No, it's not. Number Munchers, though. Thought about it. This is. It is a good one. This is a game that I know. Everybody wanted to go to the computer labs to play. Every single person. When it was computer lab day day, you were like, hell yeah, we get to do this. We get to go and play Organ Trail. Ladies and gentlemen, this game needs to be held up and hoisted up on every single goddamn pillar that is in the 80s. Everybody loves Oregon Trail. Get on the trail. Ferry your Wagon along, go around in the. The black land that is between Oregon and whatever Midwestern state Diades. And it was colored, guys. We got it to be in color this time. And you're hunting squirrels, and you find a bear, and you can't kill it because it takes, like, 20 shots. And you didn't have enough money to buy 20 bullets. So you're just hunting all day because that's all you. That's the most fun you can have in Oregon Trail. It wasn't actually trying to get to Oregon from where you're at. It was the hunting. That's what all y' all wanted to do. This game. This game is iconic. Even if you've never played it, you know what the hell it is. It's Oregon Trail, man. It's a Catalina wine mixer of apple. Two games, guys, this is. This is great. And I loved playing this game. I think I finished it once or twice. And then they made remake after remake after remaster after remaster of this game. But this. This one with the color. Well, you know. And one hunting. Your hunting ground is pitch black.
29:06 --> 29:07 One of the greatest, apparently.
29:07 --> 29:08 You go hunting tonight.
29:08 --> 29:12 One of the greatest spiritual successors, Organ Trail.
29:13 --> 29:15 Yeah, that's a good one, too. Yeah.
29:15 --> 29:15 Oregon.
29:15 --> 29:16 Yeah. No.
29:16 --> 29:48 Oron Trail, Oregon. Or no. Or Trail is. Is a classic. And. And I don't. I don't care what anybody says. This is the number one game that should be that everybody will know and everybody will love. And you're like, I'm gonna ford the river. And then you sink. Literally everything you had. And you're like cannibal the Musical, where they're like, shouldn't be that deep. And he throws a rock in, and they go, what the is that supposed to prove? And then they show the next scene, and everybody's soaked and they lost everything. Wasn't that deep the last time I came here.
29:48 --> 30:06 I love how they give you. They give you the option, right? You can either. You can either hire somebody indigenous and hope they know how to do it. You can either the wagon yourself, some duct tape, yield duct tape and try and float across and drown, or you can just, like, take your. Your cattle and just say, you go, march, death march across that water.
30:06 --> 30:39 Send it. Send it. And then you lose everything. You lose everything, and then your kid dies. It's hilarious. You get to all the stuff, you get to check out, and it had the. You know, the landmarks you were approaching and how many miles away you were and how the weather was, and you're always like, three quarters of the way there, and your health is poor, and you were just sweating fucking bullets. He's like, I just want to get there, man. I don't even care anymore. And it's like you're actually on the Oregon Trail by that point. You have no idea how you're living, but this is how. This is what your brain's doing.
30:39 --> 30:44 Rations. You want food? How about meager? We all got meager food. That's what we're doing. We're on meager mode.
30:44 --> 30:48 What is this, the Ritz Carlton? You're getting rations.
30:48 --> 30:49 Snake bite.
30:49 --> 30:51 Have your slice of cheese and shut it off.
30:51 --> 30:57 That's right. Rub some dirt on it.
30:57 --> 31:04 This is. This is the game you would name everybody in your family after your friends, and then you just laugh when they die. When they died of diarrhea.
31:04 --> 31:09 We were all terrible children, you dumb fuck. Well, what you get for drinking water out of a pod?
31:09 --> 31:25 And I'm sorry, but just. This game is so brutal. It's so brutal. You're like, you'll be going, and all of a sudden it'll be like, you were on the wrong trail. You lost six days. Yeah.
31:25 --> 31:47 Shit's nuts, dude. This is. This game is intense, and I. I love it. I. I have very fond memories of playing this in. In elementary school and getting to the computer lab to play Organ Trail, and they were teaching us. I don't know how shitty the world really is. Like, I don't. I don't know what I learned from another than. Well, I've got a ration. My food for the rest of my life. That's certainly gonna happen. And I'm not hunting dysentery.
31:47 --> 31:48 Sucks.
31:48 --> 31:49 I'm not killing buddies.
31:50 --> 31:51 Suck, suck. Yeah.
31:51 --> 31:56 Made it to the Blue Mountains on. On Halloween, so that's cool. In 1848.
31:57 --> 31:58 Yeah.
31:58 --> 31:58 I.
31:58 --> 31:59 No, this game.
31:59 --> 32:10 Love Oregon Trail. Yeah, this is. This is. We did an episode where we talked about educational games, and we talked about this one, the history of it, and the guy who created this at the university, he had people outside the door wanting to play it.
32:10 --> 32:10 Yeah.
32:10 --> 32:30 Like, when he. I think they end up selling to an education software company. And this is one of the best sellers for. For damn good reason. I love this game. I loved how it took you about an hour and a half to probably finish this game proper. But, like, for me, the computer lab classes were less than. They're like 45 minutes. So you had to, like, speed run on the trail, smashing the space bar.
32:30 --> 32:31 Never beat it in school.
32:31 --> 32:32 As fast as possible.
32:32 --> 32:33 Never beat it in school.
32:33 --> 32:46 And then you get to the end. And your reward is this river action game where you float down a river and you actually have to move back and forth and not drown. Every time you hit a rock, somebody would die. Yep. It's really great. I love Oregon Trail. This is definitely a great pick for
32:46 --> 32:47 game of the year.
32:47 --> 32:48 Yeah, this is a good one. Yep.
32:48 --> 32:49 Yeah.
32:49 --> 32:52 And it's close to home, so I get it. Yeah, yeah.
32:52 --> 32:53 No, this is so good.
32:54 --> 32:56 I see the dailies and I'm like, organ drill.
32:56 --> 32:57 Yeah.
32:57 --> 32:59 Every time I drive down to California.
32:59 --> 33:06 Another absolutely fantastic spiritual successor is Death Road to Canada. That game is so good too.
33:06 --> 33:07 Death Road Canada is fantastic.
33:07 --> 33:08 That's my commute.
33:08 --> 33:10 I say too small to control.
33:10 --> 33:12 Too control, baby.
33:17 --> 33:18 Good pick. I play that.
33:18 --> 33:18 Yeah.
33:20 --> 33:22 Sinister. What's your game of the year from 1985?
33:23 --> 33:23 Oh, does it.
33:24 --> 33:26 Don't tell me. Ultima.
33:27 --> 33:45 Yes, Ultima. Ultima 4. Yeah. No, I'm sorry. If you're a. If you're any sort of listener to our podcast, you. You already know it's coming. Bard's Tale, Tales of the Unknown, which is conveniently right behind me.
33:47 --> 33:49 Okay, what about Tales of the Known?
33:50 --> 33:53 That was later. Yeah, yeah. It didn't sell as well.
33:53 --> 33:54 Does that dlc?
33:54 --> 34:33 That's right. No. So this is. I mean, this is a game. It's an old school rpg, which meant it didn't have a ton of story. Story is an evil sorcerer. Mangar has basically surrounded the town of Skara Brae in an eternal winter. And you can't leave. And so your purpose is basically to try to figure out a way to end this eternal winter. And so it leads you through five main dungeons. Each one is at least three levels. This is back when you didn't have a mini map. You had grid paper. Um, but this.
34:33 --> 34:34 And a will.
34:34 --> 35:01 Yeah, but this is. This is, you know, the modern term or the term. I don't know how modern, but it's a recent term. I've heard it's a blobber. You know, there's. You get six characters, you have a party of six. Now in this case, unlike Ultima, you pick your. Your race and you pick your class. And this, this game actually led me forever to loving Monk as a class in basically every game. Every game.
35:01 --> 35:03 Now, the Monk, why we're friends.
35:03 --> 35:38 Yeah, the Monk and. Yes, exactly. The Monk in this game starts out and they are the weak character. They suck. But as soon as they get some levels under their belt, they're hitting multiple times every single round and they're doing critical hits every Single round. And they're, you know, and it's like. And so all of a sudden they become a death machine. And they're the character that like, you start with adding armor to them, but there's. At a certain level they actually start suffering if you put armor on them. So you take the armor off and they start, you know, they can dodge for, you know, etc and so.
35:38 --> 35:39 Right.
35:39 --> 36:40 Anyway, but you have your standard classes, you have your paladins, your monks, your rogues, your bards, because of course, Bard, Bard's Tale. And then the, the magic classes are the other thing that I fell in love with. This is a game where you have two magic classes. the beginning of the game you have a conjurer and a magician. Each magic class has seven levels and each level, I think has at least two spells in it. And then once you reach a certain level, your magic users can convert into the advanced magic classes, which are sorcerer and wizard. And that's when you get the spells that hit every bad guy for 100 points of damage. That do is a battle late in the game where it's. It is four groups of 99 Berserkers that you're fighting and you cast the spell called Mangar's Mind Blade. And it. You just watch the scrolling text of them just dying and it's awesome.
36:41 --> 36:46 Is it like mana points or is it like D and D where it's like fancy magic where he had spell slots?
36:46 --> 38:16 No, it's mana points. And this is the other brutal aspect is you only regain mana points in the light. And so if you're in a dungeon, you are not regaining mana points. I can't tell you how many times you're like saving those mana points to use your teleport spell to get back to the beginning of the dungeon so you can go out and get your mana back right now that said, there are rings later that you can get that will start having them regenerate mana. So there is equipment that you can get. Anyway, as I said, there's five main dungeons. Each one's at least five levels. It is. I played this game for years before I ever completed it. And then that's the other thing is I ended up having to get the hint book. And this was a hint book that you ordered. This was during the days that it had the card inside the thing that said to order the Hint book, send $20 and postage to this place. Right? Yeah, exactly, exactly. And then every day you're checking the mailbox, you know, every day. But the, but the hint Book was a true hint book. It was actually told as a story of somebody that had gone and made it almost to defeating Mengar and freeing the town and basically is giving you pointers. And not just solutions, but pointers. So it's truly hints.
38:17 --> 38:18 That's cool.
38:18 --> 38:18 Yeah.
38:18 --> 38:22 Not like these days where you go to GameFAQs and you just get entire walkthrough step by step of the way.
38:22 --> 38:25 Yeah. All the stuff you missed. Secrets. Yeah.
38:26 --> 38:56 Now I have to point out, it's funny because you know at the end of the game when you beat the game, you've ended this eternal winter and you know there's a road out of town. And when you're playing the game before you end the eternal winter, there's the, you know, the big blockade of ice that you can't get past. Well, when you win the game, the road just never ends. You just keep pressing forward, keep going. And it basically keeps you in one spot, but looks like you're progressing forward.
38:56 --> 38:57 There you go.
38:58 --> 39:01 No end credits or anything like that or music.
39:01 --> 39:13 It just, it gives you. I mean, it tells you you've defeated Mangar and like the town is, you know, it's been saved, et cetera. But if you continue playing and go to this road and try to leave town, you can't.
39:14 --> 39:15 Infinite. Okay.
39:15 --> 39:16 Not gonna do it.
39:16 --> 39:16 That's funny.
39:16 --> 39:17 Yep.
39:18 --> 39:20 You saved the town. You can never leave.
39:20 --> 39:21 That's right. Yeah.
39:21 --> 39:22 It's like Hotel California.
39:23 --> 39:27 Exactly. Yeah. This isn't Scarabray. This is Hotel California.
39:29 --> 39:31 You check out anytime you like, but you could never leave.
39:32 --> 40:11 No, I love this game. I mean, it's. It's not a complex game. It's not complex like Ultima. It is literally min Max. Get your stats as high as you can. Go kill the bad guy. But for me, the exploration and mapping and everything was like one of my favorite things. You know, you end up on a spinner and all of a sudden you're now headed the wrong direction, but you think you're still going north. And so you're drawing squares on your, on your grid paper and you're like, wait, these are supposed to be 16 by 16. And I now have 24 on this path. And you're like, oh, somewhere it spun me and I turned, you know, oof. There are ways around that. There are ways around.
40:11 --> 40:18 I do, I do like the, the times of graph paper. I used to do it for Legend of Zelda, for example. Right. Because that had a map.
40:18 --> 40:20 We've all done that. Yeah.
40:20 --> 40:46 Hidden doors. I used to map everything I. I do like doing it. I've thought about playing some of these old PC games. They are very intimidating and. And like, I know some of this because I used to play D and D and a lot of this is inspired from D and D or vice versa. So I've been wanting to go back and try it. I know there's modern remakes or remasters of these that are much more accessible to new folks, but, yeah, I definitely want to check out this one, including
40:46 --> 41:26 a minimap which you can turn off if you want to play the old school style, but it does have a mini map. And one of the other things that's kind of cool is when you have. There are spells that let you see traps and spinners and like, compasses and etc. That help you so that you don't, you know, if you've spun or not. But on the modern remake, it has animations that give you kind of a wavy effect over a square. So you know something's there. Whether it's a spinner or like a teleport or something, you know something's there. So it kind of gives you a little. Gives you a heads up. Yeah.
41:26 --> 41:26 Yeah.
41:26 --> 41:28 Cool. Yeah, Very cool game.
41:29 --> 41:55 All right, well, I gotta say, before you go into yours, Jake, I gotta say, Sinistar, you and I have. We've hung out quite a bit. We've done this podcast a lot, and I know you've talked about Bart's Tale in passing on numerous occasions, but I gotta tell you, I have not seen you that excited to talk about a game in quite a while. And it was pretty cool. It was pretty cool to see. Like, you could see the passion in your eyes about talking about this particular game.
41:55 --> 41:56 I kind of figured.
41:56 --> 41:57 Thank you for that.
41:57 --> 42:07 I kind of figured I'd save it because I talked about it a fair amount on my top top five, but I kind of figured I would save a lot for 1985 because I knew it was coming.
42:07 --> 42:15 Yeah, you did. You brought that gusto. And now I kind of want to play it and I have no desire to play it, so that's pretty good.
42:15 --> 42:15 Sounds good.
42:15 --> 42:40 Well, I know you gush and rave out Bard's Tale, but Sinister, we all know what your real game of the year 1985 was, and you, you're a trooper. You let me take it because I was running low on. On games to pick. Sure, I got Balloon Fight, but I needed a second pick. And you, you came in clutch and said, jake, I love this game, especially 8:2, but you can do it. You can. I'll sacrifice for you and the better team squad goal.
42:40 --> 42:44 I don't know why you thought I was even remotely interested in taking this one to be fair.
42:45 --> 44:00 How could I not? How could we as a group not have somebody take the real Game of the year for 1985 Super Mario fucking Brothers for the Nintendo Famicom, whatever you want to call it. How could we not take this as game of the year? This game is iconic chart has a fake cartridge even we're talking about physical games earlier. I don't know what else to say about Mario Brothers. This is. This is the game that like, defined the genre. This is the game that jumping physics and how you move and dip and dive through levels. I always compare those platformers and their feel to this. Like, I've been doing a ranking of Mario for the channel and every single Mario game I play, whether I say it or not, in the back of my mind I'm like, does this feel as good as the original Super Mario Brothers? Yes or no? It's a checkbox. And a lot of time it doesn't. For whatever reasons, the jumping and the running in this are the degrees of control you have when you're jumping in the air, how you can nudge or change the speed feels right here. And when the game doesn't match it, it's lesser, sorry to say. And that's my thing with this. Like, this game is not the less than. Don't you correct my Canadian grammar, please. Thank you. This on the post Canada Day. Honestly.
44:01 --> 44:04 Look, we're coming up on America Day tomorrow. Come on.
44:04 --> 44:07 Yeah, you're sandwiched in between our celebration, my friend.
44:07 --> 44:55 Look, we were going to do a Mount Mount Rushmore of. Of games and then you guys didn't want to. And you know, it's fine if you don't want to put a blinket on Mount Rushmore. I. That's fine. I. I thought you guys were against slavery, but I was wrong. Look at Super Mario Brothers is a fantastic platforming game. Again, it. It maybe didn't invent the genre, but it definitely freaking defined the rules of what it should be. And I love this game. Is it as pretty as other platforming games? No, absolutely not. As much as I like the style of the enemies and Bowser and the Goombas and Mario himself, there are so many other platformer games on the NES, including in this franchise Mario Bros. 2, Mario Bros. 3 that look better, but this one feels the best to play. It is a game I can spin up and beat in five minutes on A lunch break twice if I really wanted to.
44:55 --> 44:56 I'm sure it's.
44:56 --> 44:58 It's fine. It's. It's an easy game.
44:58 --> 45:01 You play this right after Marvel Madness. I know, yes,
45:03 --> 45:19 I could loop this so many times. But I have beaten this recently on a few different platforms just for the hell of it, and it still holds up. I love playing Mario Brothers. So do you guys agree? Do you guys think this is the real game of the year of 1985 or do you still think it's Oregon Trail and Bar Bard?
45:20 --> 46:09 I'm going to throw out there that this is a great game. Eight two aside. And the fact that I can't beat this fucking game. This game. You're 100% right. This game taught us jump physics. I mean, how many of us learned jumping through Mario, right, in games? This game taught us. This game has some of the greatest. What do they call it, like, progressive learning where it teaches you the game through the mechanism. I mean, even the little demo at the beginning that you watch if you don't start the game shows you that touching the goombas is going to kill you. Right? I mean, so like, no, this game is, it is epic. It is. Everybody and their dog knows Mario, right?
46:10 --> 47:27 I have, I have a lot of fond memories of growing up playing this since we, you know, my, my sisters and I played this. We got our Nintendo for Christmas. And I remember when she, she did the glitch with the turtle shell for the million lives and how they were turning the numbers into shapes and squares and like that, that stuff was insane. And, and just, just running this game, going to bullet bills, like messing once you get to the land. I never forget getting to the land of the bullet bills and being like, oh my God, I've never been here before. And just all the stuff that went with this game growing up playing this, this is a classic. I mean this, this was like probably my first video game that I can recall that I played ad nauseam and never beat. Yeah, we beat this horse dead all the time. We'd play this game over and over again, getting the fireworks when you hit the top of the flagpole. Like this just goes on forever. And, and I, and I really do dig this game. I have a lot of nostalgia for it. It's not like it's my all time favorite greatest game in the world. But I'll tell you what, there is definitely, definitely something to be said about Mario Super Mario Brothers on the NES and, and what it did for me as, as a gamer and as a person.
47:27 --> 47:34 Yeah, yeah, like when I got the NES as a kid, it came with. I had the two pack. Not that two pack.
47:34 --> 47:35 He's not.
47:35 --> 48:28 He's not back the two back with Duck Hunt and Mario. Yeah. And Chart also has that cartridge there too. How great is it to get this game plus dunk Hunt on one cartridge is. That's the kids Christmas right there. Like this. This was the best game. This was the best packing game. I think as far as I'm concerned, it's definitely an awesome game. Like, it's. It's funny. Like there was somebody done a Super Mario Brothers Remastered, like a fan game. And I'm like, oh, that's cool. Let me check it out. So I'm always checking out like the fan games, homebrew and stuff to see what it's like. And they had basically built the game from scratch. And within three seconds and the first moment I ran and did the running and jump and it didn't line up, I'm like, what is this trash? What do you even do? You can't call this Super Mario Remaster. Yeah. How fucking dare you the name of Mario.
48:28 --> 48:30 Who authorized this?
48:30 --> 49:23 Yeah, it's pretty awful. And like, it's a fan game. Like, fine, it's whatever. But I've seen there's a fan, I think. What is it? The Pico 8. The Pico 8 is like a fan fantasy system that people make games for. Somebody did a very. A variation of Mario for the Pico and the physics on the jumping are bang on. Even though it looks nothing like Mario, it feels like Mario and it's excellent, so it can be replicated. But this remaster pissed me off. They later did an update where now you have a toggle between physics, the remastered physics, or the original. And it's a much better game now, but still that pissed me irrationally angry when they passed off as a Mario game. And they fucked with the physics. You don't with perfect platforming physics as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, I love Mario, so I could not find a better game for 85 than this one. Oregon Trail I love. I saw Gauntlet and Gradius. There's a bunch of Great Games in 85.
49:23 --> 49:24 Tetris.
49:24 --> 49:27 But man, Tetris was Tetris. Okay, which Tetris is 85?
49:27 --> 49:29 The. The one in Russia.
49:31 --> 49:31 The original.
49:31 --> 49:40 Yeah. Well, I respect Taryn Egerton hadn't made his way over there yet.
49:40 --> 49:56 I respect it, but I'll pass. As much as I love Tetris and it's goaded. Not. Maybe not for 85, we just. For the folks who watch the video. We just saw this person go through A two like butter. It was no problem at all. Sinister. You were so close to beating this game.
49:56 --> 49:57 Dude.
49:57 --> 50:01 No. This is not my channel. Don't tempt me. I'll play Mario right now.
50:01 --> 50:06 I know. I know how close I was. I made it to 83 once. I know how close I was.
50:08 --> 50:36 God, it's so close. This is. I love this game so much. That one. I've been trying. I've been slowly trying to work through the sequel. We. It's called Lost levels here, but it's Bear with Us two in Japan. Right. And it's basically this game barely modified, but it's super difficult. I've been trying to get through that one for all since the beginning of the year. I still can't do it. So I sympathize because you take the building blocks of Mario and you throw some fuckery in there and it can be quite hard. But that's one of the reasons why I love it so much.
50:36 --> 50:39 Yeah. Wind physics and poison mushrooms.
50:40 --> 50:46 Yeah. Just to mess with you. God, I love Mario Brothers. Was there any other games you guys want to call out, like honorable mentions?
50:48 --> 51:16 King's Quest 2 I'd throw out there. It goes along the same vein as the Ultima 4, where you know, you're traveling and there's no hand holding and you have to type in what you're looking for. And I love King's Quest. I grew up on that. I. I specifically remember changing one scene and having to swap out a floppy disk or flip it over, which wasn't super annoying at all. But, you know, that's why that game lasted six hours, was because I had to flip the disc and put it in. But if you don't have to do that, it's like a 15 minute long game.
51:16 --> 51:22 Well, and. And Sierra was well known for the brutality of those games. Yeah. I mean.
51:22 --> 51:26 Yeah. Getting like smashed by things, drowning and soft lock.
51:26 --> 51:36 Because you didn't flip this rock over on the second scene and you're like eight hours later and you're like, what the hell's wrong? And you're soft locked.
51:36 --> 51:43 Crab was underneath it and took the rock away from you. So you can't do it anymore. Yeah. Nope. Save early, save often.
51:43 --> 51:43 Welcome.
51:43 --> 51:52 Welcome to Sierra Games. So I, I wanted to throw King's Quest 2 out there because that's. That's definitely one that should have some kind of mention to it for sure.
51:52 --> 51:53 Yeah.
51:53 --> 51:53 Awesome.
51:54 --> 52:04 I mean, there were a whole bunch There were a whole bunch of great games for the Nest that came to America in 85. You know, my favorite ice climber
52:05 --> 52:06 was that also 85.
52:06 --> 52:08 Is that every ice level?
52:08 --> 52:10 That was. That was 85 US.
52:11 --> 52:12 Yeah.
52:12 --> 52:14 Because this would have been every ice level ever.
52:14 --> 52:16 Was this the Black Box games for nes?
52:16 --> 52:17 I believe so.
52:17 --> 52:17 I think so.
52:17 --> 52:18 I believe so.
52:19 --> 52:24 Excite Excite Bike wasn't on there. I don't think they were. Think. I think it was a year later Galaga came.
52:25 --> 52:29 So yeah, Black Box Galaga came for. For the Nest as well.
52:31 --> 52:32 Yeah.
52:32 --> 52:32 Yeah.
52:32 --> 52:40 Just checking my mind palace here because we did do an episode on the Black Box games. I think Black Blox, Black Box Blitz. That's what it was.
52:40 --> 52:40 Yeah.
52:40 --> 52:49 Oh yeah, guys, we had Excite Bike Golf, Jaramite, Hogan's Alley Ice, Ice Climber, Pinball. This is probably the American release date though.
52:49 --> 52:52 I'm sorry, you didn't say it right. Gyro Mite.
52:54 --> 53:08 I could never say this. You like you that you Chef's Kiss. Yeah. Early NES was great. Yeah. Yeah. It was a great year. But I'm glad we I finally got through Balloon fight. I'm glad you got to talk about Bard's Tale finally.
53:08 --> 53:10 I've never talked about it before.
53:10 --> 53:16 Yeah, not. Not nearly enough. Especially this one. The Constructors gave me the opportunity to
53:16 --> 53:21 gush about Oregon Trail. I think that needed to be. That definitely needed a little more love.
53:21 --> 53:21 Yeah, I love.
53:21 --> 53:23 Very enthusiastic about that here.
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54:57 --> 55:46 I did, I did. I know it's been a while. I, I, I, I upgraded some things and wanted to do a test run and like any good streamer that you know, upgrades his computer for future proofing. I streamed Silent Hill origins on the PlayStation 2. Only the latest because that's a real, that's a real power hog. But no, yeah, we enjoyed that. And actually when we're done with this, I'm going to set up and probably do something else that's a little bit less Silent Hillsy but still spooky because you know me, I gotta play my scare the pants off me kind of game. So I'll be jumping back into that and doing Silent Hill Origins. I have pre ordered Silent Hill Townfall so when that drops, I am jacked to play that new game. So that's, that's going to be fun. So there's going to be a lot of spooky stuff in between here and there and after because I don't see the stopping anytime soon. There's a lot of really scary games to play out there.
55:47 --> 55:50 Awesome. Sinistar, how about you? Anything you want to shout out?
55:51 --> 56:17 Well, I was doing the DJ thing but the summer has been interruptive for like everything. So sometime I'll be back to doing the DJ thing on my DJ Spin a Star channel and then as well Soularchaic on Twitch. But we're kind of in a little bit of a summer is hard hiatus so. And I want to shout out that we nursed a chicken back to health. So no chicken death.
56:17 --> 56:18 Hell yeah.
56:18 --> 56:19 That's awesome. That's good. Yeah.
56:20 --> 56:27 Say the savior Sinstress mostly did it. I, but I helped. It was like, it was like shake and bake.
56:29 --> 56:34 No, I'm healthy. That's the opposite of helping a chicken when you shake and bake it.
56:34 --> 56:36 Yeah, I don't know if the chicken taste sees it that way.
56:38 --> 57:24 For myself I've been doing the occasional video I've been slowly working through ranking of Mario platforming games over on the YouTube. The most recent one I did I think last week was a new Super Mario Brothers, the Nintendo ds. I'm sorry to those who like that game. I really thought I would like that one. Where's it rank in the list? Tune in to watch and find out. But I'm doing more of those coming up. I'm going to try and do one this weekend as well so and those available on the YouTube. Otherwise just check us out at presspeedacancel.com we have a Discord link there. Come join us on Discord and tell us how wrong we are on our picks for game of 1985. You can tell Sinister why he should like the Ice Climbers and why that's an instant classic. I don't know. I don't know exactly until next week. Have a great week.
57:25 --> 57:27 It's a me every ice level ever.
57:41 --> 57:56 Sam.