Press B 273: The Four Pillars Of Horror Games

Halloween is soon approaching, what better way to celebrate then by debating the absolute pillars of scary games. These are the foundation for the horror game genre. From Resident Evil to Phasmophobia, this week on Press B it's a survival horror showdown.

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00:00 --> 00:10 Time to get yourself a fresh pair of boxers and don't shut your pants, because this week it's the four pillars of horror games and probably baseball. Today on.
00:30 --> 00:32 Don't Baseball over the intro.
00:32 --> 00:34 Don't your pants over the intro.
00:35 --> 00:36 Yeah.
00:39 --> 01:06 Welcome, right, to another episode of Press Me to cancel your favorite mostly retro games podcast. I am your host this week, Sick Jake, and I am joined by three good friends as we are going to break down the foundations, the impactful, the legendary four pillars of the horror game genre. And we decided this week it's not just retro, but horror games, period. It's a whole lot of horrors. And joining me this week, I've got Sinistar. How are you doing this week?
01:06 --> 01:11 I'm doing well. I think you need to work on pronunciation because you just said we have four horse.
01:12 --> 01:16 Yeah, four horse. Yeah, four horses. It's the Canadian pronunciation.
01:16 --> 01:17 Okay.
01:18 --> 01:20 And speaking of Canadians winning chart, how you doing this week?
01:21 --> 01:29 I'm fantastic. I just watched Gino Suarez hit a grand slam and took the Mariners six to two in the bottom of the eighth. Thank you very much.
01:30 --> 01:31 Did he really?
01:31 --> 01:32 Yes. I'm not lying. This.
01:32 --> 01:32 This is.
01:32 --> 02:14 Why would I be looking like I'm literally my pants on on things? So people, the audio don't have to deal with me losing my mind over hopefully winning this game. I'm great. This is a topic that is near and dear to me. It is October. We're big fans of the October stuff. But I love horror games. You guys know that my channel right now is pretty much built all around horror game streaming. So I'm very interested to hear, like, what. What my friends here all think on the levels of horror games that you guys all know. My opinions, most of you already probably know my top three because we've talked about them so much in the last couple of months. But no, this is. This is near and dear to my heart. I'm very excited to. To do this episode tonight.
02:14 --> 02:17 All right, great. And we're also joined by Wolf. Wolf, how you doing this week?
02:17 --> 02:38 I'm doing okay. I will share it with everybody else. I did my first PC format in, like, eight years. Went from Windows 10 to Windows 11. So fantastic. I missed 10. But I don't miss the issues that I was running into after eight years of not. Of not refreshing the system. So, right, you know, good with the.
02:38 --> 02:45 Bad, you take the good, you take the bad, you format your computer, and there you have.
02:45 --> 02:46 Then you have the facts of life.
02:48 --> 02:48 That's right.
02:49 --> 02:51 You have the facts of Life in Windows 11.
02:52 --> 02:52 Yeah.
02:53 --> 02:55 Both things we're trying to avoid. Yeah.
02:56 --> 03:09 All right. All right. Well, we better get into it because when we get to the Pillars episode, sometimes it can go a bit long and we do want to keep to a timeframe in this one. So again, we've done Pillars episodes before. Think Mount Rushmore. But I'm Canadian, so have you.
03:09 --> 03:10 You've been one.
03:10 --> 03:12 I don't think I've done a Pillars episode with you guys.
03:12 --> 03:13 Okay.
03:13 --> 03:13 No.
03:13 --> 03:14 Wow. Pillars virgin.
03:17 --> 03:20 Did you just say pillory the virgin?
03:20 --> 03:23 No, I said Pillars virgin. A virgin in the Pillars community.
03:23 --> 03:25 Yeah. But it sounded like you were trying to pillory the virgin.
03:26 --> 03:26 Could be.
03:26 --> 03:27 Oh boy.
03:27 --> 03:27 Yeah.
03:27 --> 03:30 Okay, so here's how it works.
03:30 --> 03:34 I. I know how it works, but yeah.
03:34 --> 03:36 You have these things that you put a person in.
03:36 --> 03:38 Yeah. For those of you playing the home game, here are the rules.
03:39 --> 03:44 Yeah, here's the rules. Sometimes we have a Guidelines and rules. We don't always make this up.
03:44 --> 03:46 We don't even follow our own rules. I know what you're talking about.
03:46 --> 04:27 We are this week. So look, here's the idea. It is not necessarily the four best horror games, but it's more like if you're an alien to Earth and somebody said, hey, play these horror games. And you're like, well, what should I start with? Well, these are the four most impactful biggest legacy of the horror game genre, survival horror genre as a whole. It's got a nice rich history of games going all the way back to I think was Sweet Home the eight Bits. Is that the eight bit game back in the day? Well, we get right into it. So we're going to go around the table and just add picks to a short list. And then after we put together a nice short list, then we're gonna break down just the four games that make our. Our four. Four Pillars Sin. Who wants to start with a two.
04:27 --> 04:30 Page front and back list? So his short list is pretty long.
04:32 --> 04:45 For those paying attention, I feel like I should clarify. Apparently I have done it. It's just been almost six months. Okay, so I did, I did RPGs and 2D platformers. I missed out on Super Nintendo and Arcade Beat Em Ups.
04:46 --> 04:47 Yeah, we were yelling a lot.
04:47 --> 04:49 Okay, well, who's going first?
04:49 --> 04:51 How about you? The longest list.
04:52 --> 04:54 We need to parse yours first.
04:54 --> 05:00 I'm going to start strong because if I don't say this name, I will be divorced by the end of the night.
05:00 --> 05:02 Oh yeah, no shit. Okay. Yeah, I already know where this is going.
05:03 --> 05:03 Visage.
05:03 --> 05:06 Yeah, Visage. Visage. Visage.
05:06 --> 05:06 Yeah.
05:06 --> 05:08 However you want to pronounce it.
05:08 --> 05:13 I've seen a little bit streamed. Why? Why is that one deserving of like One of the four pillars?
05:13 --> 05:21 Okay, so basically you've heard of PT or the playtest that was on PS3.
05:21 --> 05:22 Playable teaser.
05:22 --> 05:33 PS4. Yeah. Playable teaser. That was basically like, hey, this is what Silent Hill is going to become. And it never got traction and I don't know why. And so they never made it.
05:33 --> 05:49 I think it was the Kojima falling out of Konami thing is why that kind of fell through. Because, I mean, Kojima basically took normal Del Toro. God, I can't. Norman Reedus, all the people that were going to be in Silent Hills.
05:50 --> 05:50 Yeah.
05:50 --> 06:01 Was then put into death stranding instead in some way, shape or form using his magical AI face creator, where it actually captures people's souls and portrays them digitally.
06:01 --> 06:01 Right.
06:02 --> 06:02 Yeah.
06:02 --> 06:05 It's too bad. It's too bad. Norman Reedus lives in video games now.
06:05 --> 06:07 Yeah, he does. Yeah. Yeah.
06:07 --> 06:12 That's that. He's lost forever to Kojima's soul cage. Both his face and his feet, apparently.
06:12 --> 06:13 Okay.
06:13 --> 06:15 That's essentially why PT did his thing.
06:15 --> 06:51 But anyway, PT Was this playtest, playable teaser trailer, playable, whatever. That was absolutely horrifying. Yeah. And it literally is walking down like two or three halls and you kind of go back and forth and it. It. I mean, it's. It. It's so simple, it's terrifying. And when it. And. And somebody actually dissected the source code and found out something even more terrifying, they unlocked the camera, they figured out how to unlock the camera, and the antagonist actually is following you the whole fucking time. Yep.
06:51 --> 06:52 She's right behind you.
06:52 --> 06:54 You just don't see them until they reveal themselves.
06:54 --> 06:55 Right.
06:55 --> 07:21 And anyway, so PT okay, so PT gets. Gets basically canned. Is never going to come out. And so a group and I don't remember who made Visage, but a group basically said, that's the kind of game we want to make. And they essentially created this game. First off, it has one of the most terrifying intro intros to a game of all time.
07:21 --> 07:22 It's rough.
07:23 --> 07:36 Like, it's terrifying. Not on a horror scale, but on a horror of humanity scale. You watch this and you're like, I feel sick after watching the beginning.
07:36 --> 07:36 Yeah.
07:38 --> 07:49 But it's. It has mechanisms that are absolutely spectacular. Like your only light source is a camera flash for part of it.
07:49 --> 07:49 Yeah.
07:50 --> 07:50 Yeah.
07:51 --> 08:29 And the other one is like your sanity burns away. So you're taking these pills and like this house is just confusingly laid out. Like it's A little bit uncanny Valley, kind of like layout of a house. And especially when you get to, like, the MC Escher area. And it even has a few moments of just pure humor, like absolute pure humor. But it is terrifying. Front to back. It is. It's survival. You don't have any way of, like.
08:29 --> 08:30 There'S no defending yourself.
08:30 --> 08:33 There's no defending yourself other than run the fuck away.
08:34 --> 08:34 Right?
08:36 --> 09:02 Yeah. And then you basically are rebuilding the story. You rebuild the story of what happened in this house. And it's. It's. The story is very cool. And then you get to the end and it gets even weirder. It like. Okay, yeah. And so front to back, this game, honestly, I'm gonna just argue that this is the most atmospheric horror game, at least to date.
09:03 --> 09:08 Okay. This one came out a couple years ago. I think it's fairly, fairly recent. Right?
09:08 --> 09:09 I want to say 2018.
09:10 --> 09:10 2020.
09:10 --> 09:12 2020. Okay. Not too long ago.
09:13 --> 09:16 It might have been an early access before that. Yeah, it was 2020.
09:16 --> 09:23 They added, I think there was like two playable stories in Early Access, and then they added two or three more to close it out at the end.
09:24 --> 09:28 So you mentioned it, so I'm going to bring it up. What about death Stranding?
09:30 --> 09:30 I.
09:32 --> 09:45 So, like, at first I wouldn't say horror, but then there are parts. Especially when you are trudging through the rain, through it, through a difficult terrain on foot, and the BTs all around you, there are spots. I generally had jump scares.
09:46 --> 10:26 Honest to God, when I was thinking about it today, I was like, you know, I wouldn't be shocked if somebody in the podcast brought up death stranding because of its correlation with the dead hunting you down. And it can get stressful when you're bebopping around the map and then all of a sudden your little flapper BT detector starts doing its little beepy thing and clicky thing. You genuinely get stressed out now, where I am absolutely terrified playing Visage. Like, it scared the ever living crap out of me from front to back. I don't think death stranding has. It stresses me out, but I don't think it's. It's not scary, it's just stressful.
10:26 --> 10:28 Okay. Like, if I think stressful but not.
10:28 --> 10:30 Scary, I. I think it's a stress simulator.
10:30 --> 10:40 Yeah, it's a stress because if I get caught in death stranding, I'm like, oh. But if I get caught in Visage, I'm like, jesus. Like, it's a totally. Like, my heart jumps about 40ft while.
10:40 --> 10:47 Yeah, like, one of the scariest Things in Death Stranding is when Norman takes a misstep and you lose all your cargo. It's.
10:47 --> 10:52 It's pretty terrifying. I think there's a few letter carriers out there, Amazon workers, and that is probably their biggest nightmare.
10:52 --> 10:53 That's true.
10:53 --> 10:54 Maybe not. Maybe they'll give a shit.
10:54 --> 10:58 Well, if. If we were delivery people, maybe we'd take a different stance.
10:58 --> 10:59 That's true.
10:59 --> 10:59 Yeah.
10:59 --> 10:59 Very true.
10:59 --> 11:00 No death stranding.
11:00 --> 11:01 No death.
11:01 --> 11:20 But I, you know, I'm gonna. Hold on. I'm gonna. I'm gonna argue, like, with you. I'm gonna agree here. I actually have on my list, and I kind of have. Have been hemming and hawing is whether it should be on my list, and for the same reason. Half Life 2 has horror elements and has a horror part, right?
11:21 --> 11:23 One. The one stage. Yeah, yeah.
11:23 --> 11:27 Nobody goes to Ravenholm, right? I mean, yeah.
11:27 --> 11:28 Yeah. I mean, yeah.
11:28 --> 11:28 So.
11:28 --> 11:36 Well, I think that's. I think. I think. Well, that part is definitely scary. Like your pitch dark, the head crabs everywhere. You're using rusty saw blades as a weapon.
11:36 --> 11:37 Remember that?
11:37 --> 11:38 That's the one part of the game I do remember.
11:39 --> 11:41 Screamers. The goddamn screamers.
11:42 --> 11:48 But because the game is not all of that, I think maybe we don't have in the list. Yeah, I think.
11:48 --> 11:48 Yeah.
11:49 --> 11:54 And I think I agree with you guys. Death stranding, stressful, but not necessarily scary. So I think I'm fine not putting in the list.
11:54 --> 12:23 I like to think that maybe Half Life originally, like the first Half Life, might have kind of wanted to be like a horror game a little bit with. With the headcrabs and all that stuff. And maybe back then it was a little bit scarier. But our tolerance has been raised, you know, because of games like Visage and PT And. And things like that. So when we look back at stuff that might have actually been considered a stressful suspense for a game really doesn't make the cut. We. You still got to look at stuff like Resident Evil and, you know, Silent Hills and all this other stuff like that.
12:23 --> 12:28 Yeah. All right, so Visage, that's my. That's my first pick.
12:29 --> 13:14 I'd be hard pressed to not put that on. I'd almost get it its own pillar right now. Because, I mean, we talk a lot about, like, walking simulators, and Visage is essentially a walking horror simulator. Right. There's no. I mean, you say there's survival, right? But there's no. There's no, like, limited ammunition. Like, like dead space. There's no life. I mean, you take pills to get the sand get your sanity under control. But, I mean, even so, you're still just bebopping around a house, Garrett. Terrifying yourself the entire time. Don't get me wrong. It's a. It's a walking simulator. Like, summer 58 is a walking simulator. But you. You are going to be your pants throughout at least 90% of this game.
13:14 --> 13:28 So, first off, chart, you don't need to add me on discord when we're live about the score. You. I see the score. I have my phone up. I see the score. You know, this guy win. I'm gonna terrorize you all.
13:28 --> 13:32 Quietest celebration I have ever had in my entire life. So just let me have.
13:33 --> 13:34 All right, all right.
13:34 --> 13:37 We need more names in this list. We've got one so far, and it's been 20 minutes.
13:37 --> 13:37 Who's picking?
13:37 --> 13:43 I'll go next. I'll go next. Since I'm the one chatting, I thought we were doing. Oh, no. Wolf. Yeah, go ahead. No, no, no. Yeah, go. You got it, baby.
13:43 --> 13:44 Okay.
13:45 --> 13:46 Alien Isolation.
13:46 --> 13:47 Yes.
13:47 --> 13:47 Good pick.
13:47 --> 13:48 Absolutely.
13:48 --> 13:52 Because I will never not gush about this game.
13:52 --> 13:54 Great game. Great game.
13:55 --> 14:16 And I know I've said it before, the Alien movies are some of my favorite horror movies. And then Alien Isolation took that and made it a game. Yeah, right. It took that feeling you get from watching the first two Alien movies and made it a video game that you experience from first person perspective. You play absolutely terrifying.
14:16 --> 14:18 You play an Alien movie.
14:18 --> 14:18 Yes.
14:18 --> 14:19 Yeah.
14:19 --> 14:22 It's like the closest alien as the.
14:22 --> 14:24 Game could possibly get. Yeah.
14:24 --> 14:28 Like, it does both, right? It does both Alien and Aliens.
14:28 --> 14:29 So. So it's.
14:29 --> 14:44 I mean, it's mostly alien, but then it puts you. Whereas the second movie was a bit of an action movie as well as horror, the later end of the game, it brings in some of that action, but it never stops being terrifying.
14:44 --> 14:46 Yeah, right. Yeah.
14:46 --> 14:48 And then it's the only game where.
14:48 --> 14:50 You hide in the locker. And it's engaging.
14:50 --> 14:52 Yeah, yeah. Locker Simulator 2018.
14:54 --> 15:00 I mean, it. It. It did it so well that the most recent Alien movie was like, yeah, we have to do that as a movie.
15:00 --> 15:01 Yeah, right. Absolutely.
15:02 --> 15:02 Yes.
15:03 --> 15:06 Yes. That was Romulus, right? Is that Alien? Romulus.
15:06 --> 15:07 Yeah. I think.
15:07 --> 15:08 Yeah.
15:08 --> 15:08 Yeah.
15:08 --> 15:10 God, it was a great movie. It was really good.
15:10 --> 15:15 Yeah. Aliens Isolation absolutely needs to be on this list. I think that's a great pick, for sure.
15:15 --> 15:19 The. Just the way you feel so powerless against them. It just.
15:19 --> 15:27 Yeah, I mentioned that in the past, where this is a game that gives you guns, it gives you a flamethrower, and when you get A flamethrower.
15:28 --> 15:30 You don't want to use them when.
15:30 --> 15:38 You are a flamethrower, bro. You're a badass with a flamethrower. You're a flamethrower and you still feel utterly helpless against everything in this thing.
15:38 --> 15:43 Well, and everything makes sound. Every weapon you have makes sound.
15:43 --> 15:47 You want to talk about soundscape, Easily one of the best created sound.
15:47 --> 15:52 Like this is also like top tier sound design atmosphere.
15:52 --> 15:58 This might be a short episode of Star. You might be fine. These are going to be hard to beat, you know.
15:58 --> 15:59 Yeah, we've got two pillars already.
16:00 --> 16:00 Yeah, easily.
16:03 --> 16:08 Like I. This is a game I still tell friends. I'm like, dude, you gotta play this. And they still don't.
16:08 --> 16:13 Well, I don't know. But that's. That's number two on my list. So there you go.
16:13 --> 16:16 Absolutely. All right. All right.
16:16 --> 16:21 Alien isolation, definitely on the short list chart. How about you put a pick? Which one?
16:25 --> 16:53 I. I'm going with Silent Hill. I'm. But I'm going with Silent Hill. You know, I want to say Silent Hill to the remake because it took. It took everything that was scary about the remake or the original and made it scarier. It made it more intense and more whatever. And I'm having that issue where it was like, without one, you can't have the other. You know, the Mega man comp. The Mega man discussion we have where, yeah, you got to have Mega Man One, but two is far better than one.
16:53 --> 16:55 I'm gonna, I'm gonna fix your issue right now.
16:56 --> 16:56 Yeah.
16:56 --> 17:04 Aliens come to earth, they want to play horror games. What do you tell them to play? It doesn't matter what started it.
17:04 --> 17:09 Listen, I know, I know we're not picking all five, all four fucking Silent Hills.
17:09 --> 17:09 No.
17:10 --> 18:31 So I understand that. So I'm trying to pick the best out of all of them. And I gotta say, Even Silent Hill 3 for the PS2 right now in 2025 still got me pretty good from time to time. But I think, I think I got it. I just gotta go with two. I gotta go with Silent Hill two. It's its own story. It has more iconic creatures in it, has more iconic nightmares in. Expanded upon what One was trying to do and made it its own thing. Now three is, is. It's like it's a harken back, right? Three and one are basically sequels of one another, while two is its own thing. But two does its own thing so well that it can be its own thing. To the point that they made a remake of two before they even Discussed making the original or remake. Like now they're making the original because it went well. Right. That's how powerful two is. So to me, Silent Hill 2 doesn't have to be the remake. It could be the one. Has to be on this list as one of the best psychological survival horror games that's out there right now. And I'm not going to say. I'm going to say just Silent Hill 2 either way, remake or not remake. I'm just going to say Silent Hill 2 and, and go with ever. Because it's not so far off the cusp you could pick either one of them. Right. So I'm just going to go with two. The voice acting is terrible, but the game is fantastic.
18:32 --> 18:43 Honestly, I've. I've heard more gushing over the Silent Hill 2 game than any other entry in the franchise and I've never played through it. Right.
18:43 --> 18:48 So James, James Sutherman. James Sutherland has a compelling story and.
18:48 --> 18:59 He'S a terrible human being, but you don't know about it. And that's the best part. It's just, it's so good. It's so twisted and perfect from front to back. It is.
18:59 --> 18:59 Yeah.
19:00 --> 19:24 There's something to be said about the whole thing. The music is fantastic. I still listen to that soundtrack. I love the music in that. It's. It's one of my all time favorites. There's not, there's really nothing about Silent Hill 2 that I think is bad. And then when they remade it, they just made it better and I. It's. It's just a really good game. So Silent Hill 2 I think definitely needs to be on that short list for sure.
19:24 --> 19:24 Okay. Okay.
19:25 --> 19:28 Yeah, we're back around.
19:28 --> 19:31 Jacob, you if you have one.
19:32 --> 20:00 Yeah. Okay. So you know, we, we talked about a bunch of recent ones. I'm a Silent Hill remake. Silent Hill 2 remake. Let's go with an older pick. I'm gonna go with Resident Evil. I'm gonna say the original Resident Evil on the PlayStation. Right. That's like, that's when really the idea, I mean it wasn't the first survival horror game, but when we're talking about that format. The tank controls the odd camera angles, the zombies limited ammunition, limited ink ribbon.
20:00 --> 20:02 Dog things jump out at you.
20:02 --> 20:12 Yeah. So I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Resident Evil. I think that game has its fair share of, of creepy and gross moments, but also jump scares right from the get go. Oh yeah, I think. Is it the dog jumping through the window?
20:13 --> 20:20 I don't care how old you are. Or when you play that, the first time you see that shit, you jump there every goddamn time.
20:20 --> 20:21 Honestly.
20:22 --> 20:24 Honestly, the seventh and eighth time got me, too.
20:27 --> 20:27 Yeah.
20:27 --> 20:28 Yeah.
20:28 --> 20:40 The. The first time I played that game, I remember, like, just that the reason I brought up that rat dog thing, because it looks. It looks like a weird rat dog thing. I'm like, this. You game.
20:41 --> 21:11 Resident Evil 1 is a great. Is a great addition. It needs to be on here. I mean, it. It really pushed the. It pushed the genre forward. I think, in my opinion, a lot of games stole from it or borrowed from it or whatever you want to call it to continue to do what they did. And I know a lot of people may argue that. I think Resident Evil 2 is the better addition to the. To the thing. I think Resident Evil 1 really stands out in its entirety for what it did. Like, for everything beyond that. Because it.
21:11 --> 21:12 It's like.
21:12 --> 21:16 I like Silent Hill. It spawned right. Everything that we're playing.
21:16 --> 21:16 Yeah.
21:17 --> 21:26 The alien isolation. Without Resident Evil, you don't have. And this isn't a one gets the other thing. It's. It's like. It's fairly rooted in the system. Yeah.
21:27 --> 21:38 Like, I like Resident Evil 2 and 3 a fair bit more, but when I think of, like, the four pillars or I think of something that had the most impact on the genre, I think the first Resident Evil is the one I would go with in this case.
21:38 --> 21:38 Yeah.
21:38 --> 21:39 Yeah.
21:39 --> 21:44 And honestly, I've never even played the updated versions. I've only played PlayStation.
21:45 --> 21:46 Yeah. I've heard nothing but good things.
21:47 --> 22:10 Resident Evil 2 remake is horrifying, and I love it. It's a great, great remaster. But I. I played the. I think the Pixel. Well, not the Pixel Pixel remaster, but the remaster of. The remaster of. Of Resident Evil. It's. It's the same exact game. It's just cleaned up. It looks a lot nicer, and it's. Yeah, it still gets you. It's still good. It's still really good because it's.
22:10 --> 22:18 It's still just the. The GameCube remake. Right. That they've ported to PC and everything. So it's a lot prettier and better acting and stuff, but much cleaner.
22:18 --> 22:18 Yeah.
22:18 --> 22:18 Yeah.
22:18 --> 22:19 Yep.
22:19 --> 22:24 Well, better acting is. It's still pretty bad. Well, but it is better. Yes.
22:24 --> 22:30 You have to remember, the original Resident Evil was intended to be portrayed like a B movie, Right?
22:31 --> 22:32 Yeah, that's fair.
22:32 --> 22:39 That was. That was the goal. So, yeah, it was bad acting on purpose. So that kind of makes it good acting in a sense.
22:39 --> 22:43 I mean, that's fair when the remaster steps it up from B acting. And now.
22:43 --> 22:46 So it's that whole so bad, it's good thing, right?
22:47 --> 22:47 Yeah.
22:47 --> 22:48 Yeah.
22:49 --> 22:49 Okay.
22:49 --> 22:54 Hey, man, we live on B tier. That's right. You know the rules. We press B Sinister. How about you?
22:54 --> 22:56 What's your next pick? B acting.
22:56 --> 23:04 All right. I have to go with Eternal Darkness, Sanity's Requiem next.
23:04 --> 23:06 That's a good one. That is a good one.
23:06 --> 23:08 Is that the 2D one?
23:08 --> 23:09 GameCube.
23:09 --> 23:10 GameCube, yes.
23:10 --> 23:57 That's the one that, with your sanity, it's a 3D game, and that's the one that, like, the sanity meter starts, like, messing with you, the player. But it also has a very cool Cthulhu, like, H.P. lovecraftian story in the background that you're playing. It has. It's very cool in that it has three endings that are roughly the same, but if you get all three of them, you get kind of the final ending. It's. Yeah, it's just. And I'm not going to say it's like the scariest game, but it's like, it's that psychological horror.
23:57 --> 23:59 Right, Right. Instead of jump scares.
23:59 --> 24:01 Instead of jump scares. It's.
24:01 --> 24:08 It messes with you. It freaks you out. It freaks you out in a different way than something just popping in your face. Right. Yeah, I agree. Okay.
24:08 --> 24:20 Yeah. So, like, definitely, arguably, top three game for the GameCube. For sure. Sure. Like, okay. You know, I know.
24:20 --> 24:23 Not a huge library, but I definitely heard lots of good things about Eternal Darkness.
24:23 --> 24:25 Eternal Darkness is definitely out there.
24:25 --> 24:33 I was sad when the. There was supposed to be a successor and it never came, so that's sad. Yeah.
24:33 --> 24:48 Yeah, that's a good one. I, I, I do. Like, it's a shame that it still only work, like, it really works best on a crtv. Like, you have to have, like, the tube. You can't, you can't. It doesn't kind of hit you the same way. Yeah, there's volume and it does all kinds of cool.
24:48 --> 24:56 I was going to say there's at least three, like, sanity effects that, that, like, really only portray on a crt.
24:56 --> 24:56 Right.
24:57 --> 24:57 Right.
24:58 --> 24:58 So.
24:58 --> 25:00 Oh, that's. It does the volume thing, right?
25:00 --> 25:08 It does. It has the green bar volume thing. And then there's another one where, like, bugs walk across the screen, but they're.
25:08 --> 25:12 All, they're all domed out. When it's on a flat screen, it just doesn't look right.
25:12 --> 25:12 Yeah.
25:13 --> 25:16 Kids don't know Joys of the crt. Right.
25:17 --> 25:35 But, but it had some awesome effects as well, like, there's one that is absolutely terrifying. The game crashes back to the main screen. You go to like your load save game and it's like deleting save games and deleting them and you're like, what the.
25:35 --> 25:42 Yeah, yeah, that would mess me up. That would definitely freak me out. All right, good pick. Wolf, you're next.
25:45 --> 25:58 So I. I just want to mention this one. It's not on my list because I've never played it, but I've seen it on lists and so I gotta ask if any of you guys have played it. I have no Mouth and I Must Scream is apparently heard of it. Really good.
25:59 --> 26:00 I have not touched that one yet.
26:00 --> 26:03 Based on a book that I know.
26:04 --> 26:05 Philip K. Dick, right?
26:05 --> 26:08 Yes. Is it Philip K. Dick? I thought it was.
26:10 --> 26:10 Maybe not.
26:11 --> 26:13 No, it's. It's a. It's a.
26:13 --> 26:14 You want to check your mind palace.
26:14 --> 26:15 Yeah.
26:15 --> 26:24 And I will say that Nightdive just released. Released this or they did a re release or. I don't know if it's a full remaster, but I saw some. A news headline today that they did something with it, so.
26:24 --> 26:25 Oh, Harlan Ellison.
26:25 --> 26:26 Harlan Nelson. Yeah.
26:26 --> 26:27 Okay.
26:27 --> 26:28 Yeah.
26:28 --> 26:32 But I have. I have not read it and I have not played it, but I've heard some good things about that one.
26:33 --> 26:47 So I will say, because I played it back in the day and I've watched people play it recently, at least the retro version. And I don't know about the re release. There are some things that don't translate well in modern times, but.
26:47 --> 26:48 Gotcha.
26:48 --> 26:49 It's fair.
26:50 --> 26:50 Okay.
26:52 --> 26:53 However, it is a terrifying game.
26:54 --> 27:00 Okay, Good to know. My next pick is actually going to be Resident Evil 7.
27:01 --> 27:01 Yes.
27:01 --> 27:02 Okay.
27:03 --> 27:03 Yes.
27:03 --> 27:11 Because I feel like Resident Evil 7 perfected the horror aspect of the Resident Evil franchise. It.
27:11 --> 27:15 It took the first person view and made it terrifying like it's supposed to.
27:15 --> 27:16 Right.
27:16 --> 27:18 Instead of. Instead of the tank controls that you're so used to.
27:19 --> 27:23 It was the most tense, unnerving Resident Evil I had played.
27:25 --> 27:31 And if you're a hand, it's the most. It's the most epic horror game if you're a hand too.
27:32 --> 27:57 I don't. I. The reason I like. Like Resident Evil 2 remake so much is because I hate being chased. I have nightmares about being chased. It's like a huge fear of mine, apparently. And Resident Evil 7 is one of those games that has someone chasing you like every. It's not as bad as two remake, but it's still goddamn bad when you have the father chasing your ass around the house. Dude. It is just high level stress.
27:57 --> 27:57 Yeah.
27:58 --> 28:01 Of trying to get the hell out of someplace. It is. It is rough.
28:03 --> 28:12 That's. Honestly, that's one of the things I didn't like about three was the constant chase. And I felt like seven kind of got it right.
28:12 --> 28:13 Yes.
28:13 --> 28:15 As far as how much chasing they could get away with.
28:16 --> 28:29 Right. Yeah. Two. Two remake takes that and knocks. It knocks it up a level but brings it down from three. So it's still in a nice little. The Mr. X chasing you literally everywhere is. Is just enough to stress you the out.
28:29 --> 28:29 But.
28:29 --> 28:39 But it's not so bad where you're like Nemesis, go away, man. I'm trying to do stuff and you're always around me. Stop. It's like having a little sister chase you around.
28:39 --> 28:40 And that's.
28:40 --> 28:42 I like Resident Evil 3, but it was a bit too much.
28:42 --> 28:43 That wasn't in the original.
28:44 --> 28:47 Not in two, I don't think. But I think that's what I thought.
28:47 --> 28:48 Three.
28:48 --> 28:50 Three did happen was in three, but the.
28:50 --> 28:58 The chase. Like I don't remember that happening in two. And I played two front to back both scenarios starting with both characters. So I played through it all four times.
28:58 --> 28:58 Yeah.
28:58 --> 29:04 Mr. X is an addition into. In the remake and it's very frightening.
29:05 --> 29:08 Good pick. Okay, Chard, you're next.
29:08 --> 29:25 I trying to think here. I'm. I'm thinking I'm gonna go with Madison. I think Madison needs to be put on the short list for sure. I don't know how many of you I know. I know Sinistar has seen me play Madison. So he might be the only one here that knows what Madison is. Madison.
29:25 --> 29:26 I heard you guys talk about it.
29:26 --> 29:26 Yeah.
29:26 --> 29:27 It's that statue.
29:27 --> 30:57 It's. It's a. It's another walking simulator later type game. And. And your main. Your main item you use to get around is a possessed Polaroid camera. But it's not used in the same vein that it is envisage. You use it to solve puzzles. You use it to chase off things. It is a jump scare simulator that had. That literally made me feel like I was having a heart attack on more than one occasion. There's actually I think a clip of me saying oh, my chest hurts. And then something jumped out at me right when I was doing that. And I didn't die. So I'm feeling pretty good. It's a great story. It's about a kid that's dealing with a. An oppression of a. Of a demon in his house that is caught inside this camera. The story is actually really Good. It's really dark. Really twisted. Really dark. Grandma chases you through some dark corridors. The use of lighting is. Is exceptionally well. The use of sound is really well done. I know a lot of people. There's a. There's a game that's coming out here pretty soon. I can't remember the damn name of it, but I'm in the discord of the guy. And his two biggest influences are Visage and Madison, that he's making this game based around this. This game is incredibly done. It's, it's. It usually goes on steam pretty, pretty cheap, I think. But if you have any love for Visage or PT or any of those types of game, check out Madison. This game scared the ever living out of me. Not to the level of Visage did, but still, still up there. I. I don't think this is going to get on a pillar, but I think it needs to be at least talked about.
30:57 --> 30:58 But good dimension.
30:58 --> 30:59 That statue.
30:59 --> 31:08 The statue. There's a statue that shows up in different rooms all over the house. And we don't know why it follows you around.
31:08 --> 31:09 It just.
31:09 --> 31:21 It's like a Virgin Mary statue, like, but it just keeps showing up in different rooms and you're like, what the is the statue? What is the statue doing in here? Why is it in the bathroom? What the hell's going on?
31:21 --> 31:24 It's epic enough that it's one of Chard's em.
31:24 --> 31:26 It's an em. It's an emote on.
31:28 --> 31:38 Okay. Okay. So we've covered quite a few different versions of horror games. We haven't done the online co op version and I think that counts. So I'm going to go with Phasmophobia.
31:38 --> 31:39 Hell yeah.
31:39 --> 32:06 Which is probably the horror game I've played the most. I played mostly with you guys. For the people who are under a rock and don't know what Phasmo is, it's a. It's a four player online co op ghost hunting simulator. And it takes into account what you say on the microphone. And I'm going to quickly say, the first time I played it with Chardonn, his group over in his channel, the. The ghost was coming, it was haunting, and they all pieced the hell out of that house and left me behind.
32:06 --> 32:07 Yeah.
32:07 --> 32:15 So I'm hiding behind a chair and I'm just sitting there and I can hear them muffled outside the house. And I'm just like, is anybody there?
32:16 --> 32:16 No.
32:16 --> 32:27 And not kidding you, when. Then the game goes back. I'm here and these hands go over my face and I was Terrified. I have never been more scared in a video game.
32:27 --> 32:30 When you. When you do rmh, you got to go in alone.
32:30 --> 32:31 Okay.
32:31 --> 32:34 You got to have one alone time. When you're a newbie. When you're greenhorn.
32:35 --> 32:38 I'm sorry. There's a. There's an RMH hazing period.
32:38 --> 32:39 I'm sorry. Yeah.
32:40 --> 32:42 Fasmo has VR too, doesn't it?
32:42 --> 32:44 It does. And I play it in there.
32:45 --> 32:48 Absolutely terrifying for that to happen in VR.
32:48 --> 32:52 It's messed up. Especially in the Asane asylum. It's rough. Real rough.
32:52 --> 33:01 Yeah. Like a lot of those stages are dark pitched black and it's terrifying and it's just. And then we're. We play with Bridget and she's singing. It's just.
33:01 --> 33:03 We have the RMH thing.
33:03 --> 33:04 Such a bizarre trip.
33:04 --> 33:07 Or it's Stripey. It's like, I'm gonna die.
33:07 --> 33:07 I'm gonna die.
33:07 --> 33:08 Oh, yeah.
33:09 --> 33:09 When.
33:09 --> 33:13 When big brave Stripey gets stuck in a room together, it starts screaming. It's pretty fun.
33:15 --> 33:16 Game.
33:16 --> 33:54 Phasmo started the whole, like, I think it really started the whole co op. It's horror co op game that really tied it together because it's my favorite of the bunch. Yeah. I mean, you got Ghost Watchers after that. You've got the demonologist, you've got power. You've got a bunch of different co op games that were definitely birthed from Phasmo. And me being like pretty obsessed with ghost hunting and ghost hunting shows and things like that. This was just like the perfect amalgamation of. For me to jump in and try and play this. And having your friends play it with you is awful. It is. You do not. The friends that I have, these are people you do not play these kinds of games with because they will lock you in rooms.
33:54 --> 33:55 Cheers, buddy. And.
33:56 --> 34:03 And I'll tell you what, once you play it in VR, it's almost impossible to go back to just regular streak because it just. It doesn't hit as hard as when you're playing VR.
34:04 --> 34:09 I want to point out that there is a clip of Chard locking me out of a hidey hole.
34:09 --> 34:11 Yep. That's devour. That's a different. That's good.
34:11 --> 34:14 I know, but you say that we lock you out.
34:14 --> 34:25 Yeah. Well, you know, you gotta. You gotta make. Yeah. Give back what you get. You know, I think fast was a great. A great pick. And definitely I would. I would put that on a pillar for sure. Absolutely.
34:25 --> 34:31 Also gets updated all the damn time. Like the game today versus when it first came out. Completely different. Oh, it was. They've Done.
34:31 --> 35:06 It was so constant rashy when it came out. But I think the favorite thing about it is that though they've improved the gameplay, they've improved a lot of stuff about the game. They made it more difficult. They did all this stuff. The characters are still kind of janky and it's just kind of part of its, part of its glory. It's just part of the paint process. You know, don't worry about, you know, you're coming at somebody with your arms wide out because you want to give them a hug and you look like you're creepy as fuck in VR. But that's just part of, this is part of what it is. I, I think Phasmo's fantastic and I really do, I really do love what that game has brought about and, and playing it with friends.
35:07 --> 35:28 Yep. I want to, I, I think I, I think I'm going to call out here. We've already brought them up, but I think unless, unless any of us really specifically want them, we're going, I think we honorably mention Devour, Demon Hunter, you know, etc, all of the others in that, in that genre. Unless you really want to.
35:28 --> 35:34 They're all good. They're all good. But I don't think, and I think you guys are right, I don't think they top Phasmo. And when I think of this type of.
35:34 --> 35:37 I, I would argue against one of those.
35:37 --> 35:38 Devours. Close.
35:38 --> 35:47 Yes. I was gonna pick Devour on the next round, but I'm, I'm fine with, I'm fine with, with leaving it out, but I'll go into my detail when we get there.
35:47 --> 35:49 Yeah, cool. No good pick.
35:50 --> 35:50 Hell yeah.
35:50 --> 35:52 Since our, you're, you're next.
35:52 --> 36:12 Okay. Okay. Since we're going to probably come back at least one more time, I'm going to bring up one. It's on my list. It's, it's on my list. It's on my list. Chat. But Left for Dead and Left for Dead two. Let's do Left four Dead. Two of the bunch.
36:13 --> 36:13 Yeah.
36:14 --> 36:17 And Back for Blood gets an honorable mention for sure.
36:18 --> 36:30 No, I think the Left 4 Dead series, I, I, the Co op in that the witches themselves, the witches by themselves are enough to keep somebody awake at night. Oh, the witches are terrible.
36:30 --> 36:33 God, now you brought that up. I'm sorry, I'm out.
36:33 --> 36:55 Yeah, no, I, I, me and, me and Lord Optic played Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 to get all the achievements. I mean, we played that shit until it was, until it was literally we beat that thing with a, with a pole we couldn't stop playing it. It was so much fun. And I really liked Back4Blood, but it just didn't. It had a little bit of it, but it didn't have enough of it to like.
36:55 --> 37:03 Well. And I think if we're gonna. If we're gonna honorable mention Back four Blood, I think another honorable mention of that ilk would be gtfo.
37:04 --> 37:44 Yeah, GTFO is good that. But that's a different. That's a different feel than Left 4 Dead. It is horrifying. We're. This is where Sinistar and I take off with the show because he and I've played together or at least he's watched one of us play. GTFO is definitely an honorable mention. I don't think it deserves a pillow. A pillow. Pillow pillar. But it's definitely that. The, the high. The high stress situation that that game put you in definitely ranks up there with some of the stuff because it's. That game is hard as hell and you get bum rushed and you're just toast and it's not.
37:44 --> 37:45 Well. And it does have fun.
37:45 --> 37:48 Like the bullet burning like Left 4 Dead has. Right.
37:48 --> 37:57 And it definitely is like a sneak simulator for sure. For sure. Okay. But it's in that genre. It's the same kind of genre.
37:57 --> 37:58 The Left four Dead genre.
37:58 --> 38:09 Yeah. So Left for Dead is online co op. But the one thing I remember is that the encounters procedural are close enough to it. Like the game dynamically adapts the situation.
38:11 --> 38:21 There's a progression of scenarios. But how the zombies interact with you is. Is based on like your skill level and the quantity of players and all that.
38:21 --> 38:38 So yeah, you can go into a. I don't know, like a hotel lobby and it could be just horde swarming you in there the first time you die and you come back and they're not in there that time, they're going to be someplace else or something else get you. So you never know what to expect, which is. Which is really cool.
38:38 --> 38:40 And witches. Okay.
38:40 --> 38:41 Witches are bad.
38:41 --> 38:44 Okay, Wolf, you're. You're up.
38:47 --> 38:50 Well, we're. We're going to do one more go around. Right?
38:50 --> 38:51 At least we have to do at least one more.
38:52 --> 38:52 I got one more.
38:52 --> 38:56 We're on multiplayer. I want to talk about. About Escape the Back Rooms.
38:56 --> 38:57 Hell yeah.
38:57 --> 38:58 It's on my list.
38:59 --> 39:03 Great clip of Wolf losing his mind play that game.
39:03 --> 39:07 To be fair, that was in Inside the Back Rooms, not Escape the Back.
39:07 --> 39:10 Okay. I haven't played Escape Escape the Back Rooms.
39:10 --> 39:28 You do have it. I think I gifted it to you. But yeah, I've played through that one with a friend of mine and I played through a good chunk of it with my kid because he's really into back rooms. And there was a lot of me doing that same sort of Muppet screaming as I did in Inside the Backrooms.
39:31 --> 39:35 I love that. Muppet screaming is a description, is a descriptor that works.
39:36 --> 39:49 The clip itself, not from Escape, but from inside the backrooms. It is a progression of screams. It is not just Wolf screaming. It starts with me screaming my head off because I'm getting chased by Larry the Cable Guy.
39:50 --> 39:50 Yep.
39:50 --> 40:14 And then. And then it progresses to Jaeger freaking out over something. And then it progresses to Lord Optic who's yelling about something. And then it progresses to Wolf, and it's just this seamless flow. I am cackling, hiding in a locker because it's just everybody is losing their minds in this clip. It is so good. And that's. That's how you know a game's good when everybody is on edge like that.
40:14 --> 40:15 Yeah.
40:15 --> 40:46 And yes, Inside the Backrooms was good. It nailed that feeling. And I feel like Escape the Backrooms did it better. It is really well reviewed on Steam explores the gamut of what the backrooms lore has expanded to at this point. To where there's points where you're hiding under a bed and you have mannequins invading the rooms looking for you at night because that particular area goes day, night, cycle.
40:46 --> 40:46 Oh.
40:46 --> 41:27 And so you have to get inside a house and hide from them before they find you. There's a segment where you're just being chased by hundreds of monsters and you just have to keep barreling down a friggin hospital hallway. It just does all these things. There's like narrow hallway runs where you're just running from one of those things and you have to follow the turns and not get stuck. There's, you know, the creepy pool rooms. There's the traditional, you know, back rooms look. There's dark parking garages. There's. It's so good. And we get a lot of the.
41:27 --> 41:33 Chunks of that from inside. It's not like you said, it's not as you get little pieces of that from playing the inside.
41:33 --> 41:39 And it. It's not afraid to switch up how it's going to scare you when you reach a new section.
41:39 --> 41:39 Nice.
41:39 --> 41:44 You. You hit a point where it's just endless water and there's things under the water.
41:44 --> 41:48 Oh, God. And I already hate that. That sounds terrible.
41:48 --> 41:56 Just. It does so much. It's great. I love it. I think Escape The Back Rooms is a really good multiplayer horror game.
41:57 --> 41:58 Solo.
41:59 --> 42:00 You can play it.
42:00 --> 42:03 You want to play it solo? Probably not.
42:03 --> 42:04 You don't want to.
42:04 --> 42:07 But I thought if it's.
42:07 --> 42:12 If it's better than inside the Back Rooms, like, I'll go buy this.
42:12 --> 42:14 Yeah, we. I already have it.
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