Press B 266: The Four Pillars Of Super Nintendo

Faced with an impossible choice, this week Press B decides the very best, the essential, the four pillars of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. Everyone likes Pilot Wings right?

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00:01 --> 00:31 Guys, I think we're all considered expert gamers in our field, the field of podcasting. We got a scientific method and how we determine the best of everything. We've been tapped by the International Olympic Committee on multiple occasions. So I think the three of us this week can easily agree on the pillars of the Super Nintendo. The very best four games of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System. Today on.
00:50 --> 00:53 Are you guys ready for a four hour episode?
00:54 --> 00:56 Four pillars, one pillar an hour.
00:56 --> 00:57 One pillar an hour.
00:58 --> 00:59 Don't pillar over the intro.
01:00 --> 01:00 What?
01:00 --> 01:01 Pah.
01:02 --> 01:26 Breaking the. Wouldn't be science if we didn't have the acronyms. Welcome everybody to another episode of Press me to cancel your favorite mostly retro podcast. This week I've assembled a crack team of scientific experts in the field of retro gaming. We are going to talk about the very best of Super Nintendo games. Are you showing off your Nine Inch Nails T shirts to the audience? Because that does not play well in audio. Yeah, okay.
01:26 --> 01:31 Yeah, he is. Yeah. And mine's obviously Nine Inch Nails.
01:32 --> 01:33 Let them eat cake.
01:33 --> 02:17 Yeah, let them eat cake. If that cake was 16 bits. Okay, best of SNES, the pillars. The idea is when the aliens come to Earth and they say, show us the best video games you got that are 16 bits, we're going to give them the very best of the snes. We'll do Genesis some other day. The trick is it's only four. Just four. And when we first mentioned, we floated this idea of this episode well. Okay, full disclosure, we were going to talk about Sisyphean games in a status update because, I don't know, maybe the listeners don't aren't aware, but if you go check our discord. I did post a video where I made some great progress in Half Life 2. I know everybody's shocked, but I made some progress. If you're curious. It's on private and it's in our discord. Go check it out.
02:17 --> 02:18 Has it been seven seconds?
02:19 --> 02:19 Yeah.
02:20 --> 02:22 This fucking guy.
02:22 --> 02:23 This fucking guy.
02:24 --> 02:24 That's progress.
02:24 --> 02:26 Troll. Troll.
02:26 --> 02:28 Not only did I reinstall it, but.
02:28 --> 02:29 I turned it on.
02:30 --> 02:30 Progress.
02:30 --> 02:34 It's like an hour long video of Not Half Life 2.
02:35 --> 02:48 It's great. It's great. Anyway, so. But Wolf can't make this week, so we're going to do Sisyphean check in some other time. I'll. I will gloat about my progress in my game some other time. Which is funny because Char is the one who's like beating them all, which is great.
02:48 --> 02:50 I have. I've beaten every single game on our challenge.
02:52 --> 02:53 Including the replacements.
02:53 --> 02:54 Even the replacements.
02:54 --> 03:03 Anyway, this week we're talking snes. We're going to do Pillars of snes. So, again, not doing this alone. I got my crack team here. Sinistar, how you doing this week?
03:04 --> 03:05 I'm doing great.
03:06 --> 03:10 Red Solo cup is appropriate this Friday. Jared, how are you doing this week?
03:10 --> 03:16 I'm doing good. My ears are still ringing from the great Nine Inch Nils concert I went to last Tuesday. It's fantastic, so.
03:16 --> 03:19 That's right. I love Nine Inch Dance. I did my favorite song.
03:19 --> 03:20 Did your favorite song.
03:20 --> 03:57 Rock Lobster Shame. Remster. All right, what are we doing? We are going to talk about. So here's how we do these Pillars episodes. We're just going to quickly go around and throw names of our favorite SNES games, games we think are the very best, best of gaming on the snes, the ones that represent the system the best. And then after we got a collection of games, we're then going to take our time and just kind of drill down just four. Just four that are the best. And I'm sure we'll all agree that Pilot Wings is number one, but that's okay. So I'm going to pull up.
03:58 --> 04:02 What's the silent scope? Was that. Can we play games on Silent Scope?
04:04 --> 04:10 You know, is it Silent Scope? Is that a sim? That's the submarine sim, right? What's the pto? Is the one I played.
04:10 --> 04:13 Yeah, I was thinking about the robot one with the rocket launcher.
04:15 --> 04:17 Oh, super scope.
04:17 --> 04:19 Super scope, yeah.
04:19 --> 04:20 That had, like, what, two games?
04:21 --> 04:23 Silent Scope is a submarine sim.
04:23 --> 04:24 Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
04:25 --> 04:30 All right, who wants to go first? Who's got a. Who's got a game they think belongs in this list? Sinister, you start.
04:30 --> 04:32 I'm gonna pick the easy one.
04:32 --> 04:33 Pilot Wings.
04:33 --> 04:35 Chrono Trigger. Chrono Trigger.
04:35 --> 04:36 Chrono Trigger.
04:36 --> 04:37 Yeah.
04:37 --> 04:52 It's hard to. It's hard to deny. Chronic reserve capital. Whatever. Who cares? Chrono Trigger. That's a good one. Yeah. So we're gonna have to think, too, as we make this list. It would be very easy to fill the four slots with JRPGs, but I don't think we want to do that.
04:52 --> 04:53 That's all we're here to do, right?
04:53 --> 04:55 No, no, because we did that episode already.
04:56 --> 04:58 Those are the best games on the Pillar.
04:58 --> 05:03 I know of at least three RPGs that should be on the list easily.
05:03 --> 05:04 Easily.
05:05 --> 05:05 Well, I'll do an easy.
05:05 --> 05:07 Two of them are in the same franchise.
05:07 --> 05:08 Okay, go ahead.
05:08 --> 05:09 Final Fantasy 6.
05:10 --> 05:12 Okay. Yep. Chard.
05:12 --> 05:13 Final Fantasy 4.
05:13 --> 05:14 Okay.
05:14 --> 05:16 Nobody likes that. One, though, right?
05:17 --> 05:19 Yeah, GP hates that one.
05:20 --> 05:21 He likes the DS version.
05:21 --> 05:23 It's only the design of my character, but yeah.
05:23 --> 05:27 Okay, so that's like the. That's like the three best JRPGs.
05:27 --> 05:31 Hold on, hold on. We're going. We're going around Robin here.
05:31 --> 05:32 Okay.
05:32 --> 05:33 Fucking earthbound.
05:33 --> 05:36 Earthbound. Fuck, yeah, Earthbound. So that.
05:36 --> 05:37 Shit. God damn.
05:37 --> 05:38 Yeah.
05:38 --> 05:41 Sure. That beats Final Fantasy for any day.
05:41 --> 05:47 No, no, I don't agree with that, but it is a very good jrpg. It's up there. It's definitely topless.
05:48 --> 05:49 Let me just put it on here.
05:49 --> 05:51 Don't write it small. Don't be.
05:51 --> 05:55 Okay, just put it down the bottom. Because I don't. I don't think it's going to be there very long. That's okay.
05:55 --> 05:56 Oh, come on.
05:59 --> 06:00 Okay, another one, then.
06:00 --> 06:02 Yeah. Okay.
06:02 --> 06:08 Secret of Mana can arguably. I know you don't like it, Jake, but you can arguably say it's up there.
06:08 --> 06:08 I think it's.
06:08 --> 06:09 It's up there.
06:10 --> 06:12 One of the four best, though, on the system.
06:12 --> 06:13 Yes.
06:13 --> 06:17 Guys, like, we. It's all JRPGs.
06:17 --> 06:19 That's what you asked for.
06:19 --> 06:19 No, no, no.
06:19 --> 06:21 I thought we were doing the JRPG list.
06:21 --> 06:28 No, I guess the Sense list. I'm going to divert. I'm going to divert. It's fine. We can throw Secret of Mana up there.
06:29 --> 06:34 Okay, I'm gonna put one on. I'm putting one on right now. Super Metroid. We need Super Metroid on this.
06:34 --> 06:35 Yeah, Super Metroid.
06:35 --> 06:35 All right.
06:35 --> 06:38 Mega Man X. Mega Man X needs to be up there.
06:38 --> 06:41 Legend of Zelda. Link to the past.
06:41 --> 06:48 Yeah, we're gonna completely miss the one that we talked about. I'm gonna make sure that we don't put that one on there.
06:49 --> 06:51 You mean Super Mario World, my friend?
06:51 --> 06:54 I don't know. That game didn't make it to the Super Nintendo in the States.
06:54 --> 06:58 I. You know, I guess that's okay. I guess some people like Super Mario World.
06:59 --> 07:00 Look it at zero.
07:01 --> 07:07 It is hand. It is hand and fist above Crying Simulator. I mean, Yoshi Island.
07:07 --> 07:10 Oh, I hate Yoshi's Island. Yeah. I will not.
07:10 --> 07:12 That's not an argument. Yeah, that's okay.
07:13 --> 07:16 Hold on. Super Mario All Stars.
07:17 --> 07:22 Okay, that's an interesting one, because that's not just one game, Right. That's a collection. Does that count?
07:23 --> 07:29 Well, it. It was the first time that the west got to see Super Mario Brothers. Two Japanese.
07:30 --> 07:32 I mean, the original style.
07:32 --> 07:39 Yeah. And they did redo the graphics on Super Bows 3 and 2, right? Actually, all of them.
07:39 --> 07:42 Actually, all of them updated they all got an update. Yeah.
07:42 --> 07:42 Yeah.
07:42 --> 07:43 All right.
07:43 --> 07:48 I think the three of us are going to agree. The donkey.
07:48 --> 07:49 We always do.
07:49 --> 07:51 Doesn't. Doesn't. Donkey.
07:54 --> 07:56 Pile of. No, thank you.
07:56 --> 08:20 I'll tell real quick. Like, I was debating on revisiting my. My streaming project from six freaking years ago and replaying the best games of every platform, and then I remembered that I actually had to play Donkey Kong country for the snes. And I will never do that ever again. That game took me five forever to do. I know Donkey Kong has a lot of fans, but I. I cannot stand that. That's Nest one.
08:20 --> 08:27 Okay. A non rpg. Another non rpg. Contra three.
08:28 --> 08:31 Contra three. Is that good? I never did play that.
08:31 --> 08:33 Yeah, it's good. It's a good one.
08:33 --> 08:34 Alien wars.
08:35 --> 08:40 I prefer conscience 3 over some of the earlier ones. I know GP will burn me at stake for that one, but it's the truth.
08:41 --> 08:45 Well, I like hardcore on the Genesis, but I haven't really played the Contra three. Okay.
08:46 --> 08:49 Street Fighter two. Street Fighter two.
08:50 --> 08:53 Was it just. Was it the Turbo edition on there or the original?
08:53 --> 08:55 The Turbo edition is superior.
08:55 --> 08:56 Okay.
08:56 --> 09:01 Turbo edition. No, there was the original as well, but the Turbo edition is superior.
09:01 --> 09:08 Yeah. Because it's got Championship edition and then that's got Turbo. And Turbo had the other characters, which was. Was good.
09:08 --> 09:13 Yep. Okay, I think we already mentioned F0. Yep.
09:13 --> 09:18 Yeah. F0. Is there puzzle games? Was there a Tetris that was worth that on the snes? I don't remember.
09:19 --> 09:22 I don't know about Tetris, but Super. Super Bomber man.
09:24 --> 09:24 He was on there.
09:24 --> 09:27 Well, there's a few Bomberman's on there. Which one was the best?
09:27 --> 09:29 Super Bomber man was on the original.
09:29 --> 09:29 Okay.
09:30 --> 09:31 Super Bomber Man.
09:31 --> 09:32 It was Super Bomber Man.
09:35 --> 09:40 I remember playing that with the Multi Tap four player. That was pretty awesome.
09:40 --> 09:43 Yeah, the multiplayer games are really great on the snes.
09:43 --> 09:44 Yep.
09:44 --> 09:49 Oh, for GP sake. Super Tecmo Bowl. That was. Yeah, yep, I mentioned that.
09:50 --> 09:50 Go ahead.
09:51 --> 09:57 Hey, we're missing some. Some real winners here. I mean, what about David Crane's amazing tennis?
09:57 --> 09:58 Oh, dear God.
09:59 --> 10:00 Okay, that should probably.
10:00 --> 10:03 If we're gonna talk sports. If we're gonna talk sports games.
10:05 --> 10:07 Or Derby Stallion 2.
10:08 --> 10:15 Damn. If we're going to talk sports games that actually matter. Super Mario Kart.
10:15 --> 10:17 Yes, Actually, that should be there.
10:17 --> 10:20 I don't know if it takes dig and spike volleyball, but.
10:23 --> 10:27 Okay. Wait, Jeff. Jeff would murder us.
10:27 --> 10:29 Oh, yeah. We got to get Star Fox on there.
10:29 --> 10:32 That's for sure. Is that good, though? Like, I love Star Fox.
10:32 --> 10:34 Okay, good. Come On. No. Okay.
10:34 --> 10:37 Is it, though? Because, like, I love Star Fox.
10:37 --> 10:40 Problem with playing it at 10 frames a second, you just got.
10:40 --> 10:43 I mean, doesn't everybody hate that?
10:43 --> 10:51 Come on. Come on. It originated the series. It introduced the addition of a chip in the cart.
10:51 --> 10:54 Yeah, we get to play cool Polygon stuff. That was neat back then.
10:54 --> 10:57 Yeah, that was neat, but it's not good. Like, I mean, it is good.
10:57 --> 10:59 Do a barrel roll.
10:59 --> 11:02 Yeah. Star Fox has to be on there. I don't get what you're saying.
11:02 --> 11:02 All right, fine.
11:02 --> 11:05 All right. There is a puzzle game that might need to be on here. Dr. Mario.
11:06 --> 11:07 Yep.
11:07 --> 11:08 People love Dr. Mario.
11:08 --> 11:11 Was that the Dr. Mario Tetris one? I think.
11:11 --> 11:12 Yes, yes. Which.
11:12 --> 11:13 That was actually really good.
11:14 --> 11:19 It's a port of both of them on the NEST to the SNES as one cart.
11:21 --> 11:27 Yeah, I played that because it has the one mode where you flip between the two different modes. I actually really dug that. I thought that was pretty good.
11:27 --> 11:30 Yep. Mega Man X.
11:30 --> 11:35 We already have that one on there. Earthworm Jim.
11:36 --> 11:38 Yeah, you think so?
11:38 --> 11:41 I don't know that that's. I mean, we could discuss it.
11:42 --> 11:51 For me, Earthworm Jim has always been superior on the Genesis. And if this was a Genesis list, I would fight to have that in the top four. But I would agree with you very much.
11:51 --> 11:51 Easily.
11:52 --> 11:57 I know it's not gonna win, but I need to throw it out there. Shadow Run.
11:58 --> 11:59 You throw Shadow Run out there?
11:59 --> 12:01 Yeah, people do like that one.
12:01 --> 12:04 I'm gonna toss out a beat em up.
12:05 --> 12:05 Okay.
12:05 --> 12:07 I'm gonna go with Final Fight.
12:08 --> 12:08 Okay.
12:08 --> 12:21 Yeah. If you're gonna talk. If you're gonna talk. Oh, Beetle. Sorry. Beat him up. Not. Not fighting. Sorry. I was gonna throw out. If you're gonna talk fighting. There's also Fatal Instinct, which was a good port.
12:22 --> 12:24 Hold on, let me. Killer Instinct.
12:24 --> 12:25 No, not Fatal Instinct.
12:25 --> 12:26 Killer Instinct.
12:26 --> 12:27 Killer Instinct.
12:27 --> 12:30 Killer Instinct, which is a very impressive game for the snes and I. Yeah.
12:30 --> 12:34 I think that one should definitely be up there. But let me. Let me. Let me look at my mind palace here.
12:34 --> 12:38 TMT on the snes. What was it called? The Arcade Game World.
12:39 --> 12:41 That's not Hyperstone Heist, Right? That's from Genesis.
12:41 --> 12:42 That was the Genesis.
12:42 --> 12:45 It's Turtles in Time.
12:45 --> 12:48 Turtles and Turtles in Time. That one was bad ass.
12:48 --> 12:50 Yeah, that one's really good.
12:51 --> 12:54 Hey, guys, Donkey Kong country.
12:54 --> 12:55 Get the out of here.
12:55 --> 12:56 Yeah, I think I'll pass on that one.
12:56 --> 12:58 Yeah, that one's not happening.
12:58 --> 13:08 You know, and I'm not against Donkey Kong. Like, I. I like a lot of Donkey Kong games. I love Donkey Kong Returns on the wi. Was it the Wii? I think it was. That was great. But Oscar, I've never.
13:09 --> 13:12 Oscar throws out Peacekeepers. I've never played it.
13:13 --> 13:20 How about Revolution X featuring everybody's favorite rock band, Aerosmith.
13:20 --> 13:23 I love Aerosmith. My favorite song ever.
13:24 --> 13:27 If we're gonna be serious, what about Unicycles or whatever it is?
13:28 --> 13:39 Okay, look, look, don't throw shade. It's Universe. It was an excellent fucking game. I liked Universes. I actually like it a lot.
13:39 --> 13:40 It's a good game.
13:41 --> 13:52 Listen, I've got. I've got a fighting game that needs to be thrown out here. A sweet little gem from Electronic Arts. Shaq Fu needs to be definitely charts.
13:52 --> 13:54 Just throwing shade now.
13:55 --> 13:56 I haven't.
13:57 --> 14:04 Better than Link to the Past. Mega Man X, Super Metroid and Chrono Trigger. That's your goddamn pillars right there.
14:04 --> 14:11 Okay, I'm gonna throw out. I know it's not gonna win, but it needs to be on the initial list. Gradius 3.
14:13 --> 14:15 I know a lot of people that.
14:15 --> 14:20 That is a fantastic shmup. Gradius 3 is a fantastic shmup.
14:23 --> 14:27 I'm putting Peacekeepers on there because I use the multi tap and it's a. Beat him up. Looks like.
14:27 --> 14:27 Okay.
14:28 --> 14:31 I think it's something I'll have to revisit. I think that might be a hidden gem.
14:32 --> 14:35 I think we've got enough of a list. Oh, go ahead.
14:35 --> 14:37 Sunset Riders.
14:37 --> 14:39 I don't know that that is good.
14:39 --> 14:43 That's a cool game. I like that one. I think you should throw that up there.
14:44 --> 15:00 Now I am willing to put pilot wings on the, on the argument list. No, no, no. For at least the fact that it accurately showed off the mode 7 when.
15:00 --> 15:02 It happens when you fall out of a plane and die.
15:02 --> 15:08 Yeah. No, no, no. Mode 7, it was like. It was literally a demo for Mode 7.
15:08 --> 15:12 I mean, if we're going to start tossing those up there, why don't we put super R type up there or some shit too?
15:12 --> 15:19 Oh, super R type's great. I think I like Gradius3 a little bit better than super R type, but super.
15:20 --> 15:21 The super Star wars series.
15:22 --> 15:23 Oh God accurately.
15:23 --> 15:24 Movies.
15:24 --> 15:27 We did an episode on bad movie.
15:27 --> 15:35 Tie ins and those, those games are true to the writing of George Lucas. All of them.
15:37 --> 15:41 Yeah, because that, that's what he envisioned in mind when he thought about video games for his franchise.
15:42 --> 15:45 Yeah, we, we, we put on Techno Super Bowl. Right? You put that one.
15:45 --> 15:46 Super Techno Bowl. Yeah.
15:46 --> 15:47 It's been a great episode.
15:47 --> 15:51 It Is Techno Super Bowl. Textbook.
15:52 --> 15:54 It's been a great episode, folks.
15:54 --> 15:56 Is there any other big ones that we might be missing?
15:56 --> 16:00 You know what's not going to end up on the list is Super Punch Out. It's.
16:00 --> 16:12 No, I've tried that several times. I. Yeah, the original is so far, far better. Right? The original on the NES is so good, But Super Punch out, it has its fans, but I could never get into it. It does not feel the same at all.
16:12 --> 16:14 Is Terranigma a big.
16:15 --> 16:16 I never played it.
16:16 --> 16:17 It didn't come to the States, so.
16:17 --> 16:18 I never played it.
16:19 --> 16:25 I don't know if it's something that we put up there, because it never really made it over here until now. I guess we could play it now.
16:25 --> 16:36 Like, with so many JRPGs on this list, would you ever see us picking Terranigma or Soulblazer over any of these? These ones, there's no way. I know. They're not bad. Like, they're. They're.
16:36 --> 16:38 They're true lies.
16:39 --> 16:40 Oh, no.
16:41 --> 16:42 What's his name? Arnold.
16:43 --> 16:44 He got Tom.
16:44 --> 16:45 Arnold Schwarzenegger.
16:45 --> 16:46 Tom Arnold.
16:46 --> 16:48 Yeah, the other Arnold. Right, right.
16:50 --> 16:50 Hang on, guys.
16:50 --> 16:53 I think he's in the movie, though. I think you're safe. I think Tom.
16:53 --> 16:56 How could you forget the star? That is Tom Arnold. Remember Tom Arnold.
16:56 --> 17:01 Hang on. Hang on, guys. My horse is. My horse is getting tired.
17:02 --> 17:03 It's pretty good.
17:04 --> 17:09 Here's my invitation. What about. There's some ultimate games on here. Sinister.
17:10 --> 17:19 You know what? No, Just move on, okay? Just move on. Actraiser should probably be on the list.
17:19 --> 17:21 Act Razor's good. I do like Actraiser.
17:21 --> 17:21 Okay.
17:23 --> 17:24 Wario Woods.
17:24 --> 17:32 Oh, I spelled Act Razor wrong, but I don't care. Castlevania. Super Castle. Castlevania 4.
17:32 --> 17:32 Super.
17:32 --> 17:34 Super Castlevania. Super Castlevania.
17:34 --> 17:41 Absolutely. That needs to be. Oh, oh, what's that? Oh, oh, oh, oh. That gargoyle one.
17:42 --> 17:43 The gargoyle one.
17:44 --> 17:45 It's so good. You don't know the name?
17:45 --> 17:47 No, I love Demon's Crest.
17:47 --> 17:48 Demons?
17:50 --> 17:51 Yes.
17:52 --> 17:55 Oh, Supers. Ghouls and ghosts.
17:55 --> 17:56 Super ghouls and ghosts.
17:56 --> 17:58 I don't know. That's just a rehash.
17:59 --> 18:01 No, it's not. Super goes its own thing.
18:04 --> 18:05 I heard it's a rehash.
18:06 --> 18:07 You're a rehash.
18:08 --> 18:10 God, there's so many games on the SNES that were such bangers.
18:11 --> 18:21 Prince of Persia on the SNES was a superior version of Prince of Persia, but I'm willing to not put it there because it was on everything else.
18:21 --> 18:31 Yeah, that's the tricky thing. Too. That's another one for like Earthworm Jim, Right? Like, I love Earthworm Jim a lot. I know people don't, but if I was going to pick a platform for it, it would not be in the snes.
18:32 --> 18:37 Yeah. Although the Prince of Persia version on the SNES is fantastic.
18:37 --> 18:38 It is good.
18:38 --> 18:43 I tried it out as. As part of the Prince of Persia episode or the Guys Mechner episode.
18:43 --> 18:53 We got a sunsoft here. Oh, no, that needs to be thrown out there. I'm just tossing this out there. But. Speedy Gonzalez, Los Gatos Banditos.
18:55 --> 18:59 There were so many Looney Tunes games and so few of them were any good.
18:59 --> 19:08 NBA Jam. Although I only played that in the arcade, so I can't really speak to it.
19:10 --> 19:12 I don't. Yeah. I mean.
19:12 --> 19:14 Jake. Jake.
19:14 --> 19:14 What?
19:15 --> 19:16 Kirby Superstars.
19:17 --> 19:23 I've never played it, actually. Never played it. I. I played Kirby's Dream Course. I love Kirby's Dream course.
19:23 --> 19:26 Does anybody. Anybody a fan of Bonk?
19:28 --> 19:31 Oh, I remembered that on the. On the Commodore.
19:32 --> 19:33 Super Bonk was on there.
19:33 --> 19:36 Yeah. But the. When you think of Bonk, I think of turbographics hands down.
19:36 --> 19:37 Absolutely.
19:37 --> 19:46 Turbographics. Hey, guys, that's the thing too. Like, when we look at the snes, like, do we really think some of these games. When we think snes, do we think these games? I think is the way. Nobody bring this list down.
19:47 --> 19:51 Nobody right on the list ever. Super Mario rpg.
19:52 --> 19:56 I was thinking about bringing that up because it's some of the best music.
19:56 --> 19:58 On the platform right now.
19:58 --> 19:59 Oh, dear Lord.
19:59 --> 20:00 Don't even put it up there.
20:01 --> 20:03 Oh, dear Lord. Some of the best music.
20:03 --> 20:04 Yeah.
20:04 --> 20:06 If I want it to repeat in my fucking nightmares.
20:07 --> 20:10 Yo. Super Scope six. Let's fucking go. Super Smash tv.
20:12 --> 20:13 Super Smash tv.
20:14 --> 20:17 We have spent. Let's see, how long have we been going now?
20:17 --> 20:21 We've been going. We've parsed about two or three minutes of parsing. Yeah. Okay.
20:21 --> 20:26 We should. It's 20. 20 minutes. 20 minutes we've been live.
20:26 --> 20:31 It's fine. Well, we can agree easily the top fours. That's fine. Don't worry.
20:31 --> 20:33 There is. There is Tetris Attack.
20:35 --> 20:44 Yeah, but I wasn't. I mean, it's not a bad game, but it's not. It's not Tetris. Tetris, right. I'm just skimming through a few. Top list, make sure I don't miss something.
20:44 --> 20:47 Oscar. I don't know. I don't know. Seventh Saga.
20:47 --> 20:49 Are we. Are we Top Gear fans?
20:50 --> 20:51 It has great music.
20:51 --> 20:53 Top Gear was okay. Yeah.
20:55 --> 20:56 Racing games. Any other racing games?
20:56 --> 21:04 If you were to pick racing games, I'm sorry, but you have to fight between Super Mario Kart and F0.
21:05 --> 21:06 F0. Yeah.
21:06 --> 21:26 Okay. We'll get there. We'll get there. Yeah. Seven Saga. I. I've played it. I liked it. It's hard as hell. But it's also another JRPG and I don't. I think we have better JRPGs to put on this list because we're only picking four total. And that's where the fights happen.
21:27 --> 21:38 Yeah. This is four games that the three of us agree that if you were to pull out a Super Nintendo today, you should play these four games.
21:38 --> 21:40 I will never agree with you guys.
21:40 --> 21:42 Sim Sim City.
21:43 --> 21:52 See, here's the problem is I played that on the computer on dos with a mouse and a keyboard.
21:53 --> 21:54 Okay. Okay.
21:55 --> 21:58 There's for me, the longest time soda that's on here.
21:59 --> 22:20 Because the last time, the only time I started, the only time I've ever played SimCity really growing up was on the SNES. And this was a great version of it. I mean, there's Bowser as a disaster in it. But I mean, if you don't think it's the top. I mean, you're right, it would not. It'd probably not be top four. I'm trying to think of anything else we might have missed. I don't think we missed anything else.
22:21 --> 22:31 You know, at this point, if we've missed anything, I think. I think it's hard to argue that we've missed anything that isn't in the fringes.
22:32 --> 22:35 Yeah. I mean, we're gonna start really getting in the weeds at this point.
22:35 --> 22:38 We have Metroid, right? We have Metroid. That's important.
22:38 --> 22:40 Oh, God damn it. Oh, God damn it.
22:40 --> 22:41 Lost Vikings.
22:41 --> 22:43 Oscar brought up Lost Vikings.
22:44 --> 23:08 So I was thinking that one. I actually really dig Lost Vikings, but I think the Genesis version is better. I know the graphics aren't quite as good, but the Genesis version, especially with the six button, six button controller, it has extra stages and that's why I like that. One more. I love Lost Vikings. That would. That would have been my pick for Genesis, I think, for sure. I don't know about snes, unless you guys think it belongs here. I'm good.
23:08 --> 23:13 I think it's a fantastic game, but I didn't ever play it on these. On these devices.
23:13 --> 23:17 Listen, it's no True Lies, but so few games are.
23:18 --> 23:19 Is your horse getting tired?
23:20 --> 23:21 Yes.
23:21 --> 23:21 Okay.
23:21 --> 23:23 It's not enough. Arnold and Las Vikings.
23:23 --> 23:34 What about Top Management two multi platform video game? Was there strategy and economic expansion was.
23:34 --> 23:38 There a Mario Golf on the snes. I mean, let's just start throwing in.
23:38 --> 23:44 There's Kirby's Dream Course, which is a great game, but I don't think it hangs with a four. All right.
23:44 --> 23:45 All right.
23:45 --> 23:49 Anything else for the short list? I say short list, but it's pretty long, actually.
23:50 --> 23:51 Yeah. What are we probably.
23:52 --> 23:55 No, I'm not gonna put that one on there. That game doesn't deserve to see the light.
23:55 --> 23:58 We're like 32 games we have to fight through.
23:59 --> 24:00 That's fine. We got an hour.
24:02 --> 24:22 All right, so what I'm going to do is I'm going to take this list, I'm going to bump it down a few. All right, let's make some space for, like, a short short list. Even shorter list. All right. What do you guys feel about Pilot Wings? Is there any love from you guys on this game or. No?
24:23 --> 24:37 Okay. I love the Mode 7. I love the Mode 7, but you can get the Mode 7 in the map in. In Link to the Past.
24:37 --> 24:38 Okay.
24:38 --> 24:46 And in. And in Demon's Breast and a Demon's Crest. Yeah. And in Contra and in Gradius, and I think this super R type.
24:46 --> 24:52 I think Pilot Wings, if you spin it and you actually read the goddamn manual.
24:52 --> 24:56 Are we just going to throw Mario Paint in here, too? Since we're just taking all the.
24:56 --> 24:57 Okay.
24:57 --> 25:01 Actually, yes. Because I actually love Mario Paint, actually. So you. That game goes on this list.
25:01 --> 25:03 Okay, well, no.
25:03 --> 25:07 So here's my piece on. On Pilot Wings, if. If you guys aren't into it, I will.
25:07 --> 25:07 I'll.
25:07 --> 25:53 I won't. I won't fight it tooth and nail. But I will say, when we're talking Mode 7, it is probably the showpiece for Mode 7, because it's not just a pretty, you know, graphical effect. It. That's the game. Right. They use that for the map. And yeah, unlike a lot of games that use mode 7, there's elements in the stages that are actually. You can actually interact with. When you're doing the. The rocket pack levels, you actually bounce off these rubber domes, and it's all Mode 7 effects. It's really rad. And then the way they do the different perspectives, the cameras where you have the, you know, forward and then top down, it's. It's a really. It's a technical showpiece of Mode 7. I think it's pretty good for that alone. But if you don't think it hangs before, then I won't argue it. But I think it's a stellar game and a stellar graphical showpiece. I also like playing it. It's one of my Go to SNES games to play.
25:54 --> 26:00 If it was a top 10, okay. I would have pilot wings on the top 10.
26:01 --> 26:01 Okay.
26:01 --> 26:01 That's right.
26:01 --> 26:09 We're not going to have that Chrono Trigger. We'll come back to. I think these three we will save toward the end.
26:09 --> 26:11 We will come back to Chronicles.
26:13 --> 26:18 That matters. Yeah, well, I mean, just give it a pillar. Just give it a pillar.
26:18 --> 26:23 Okay. Here's the thing with this, though, right? We had a similar discussion during our RPG EP episode.
26:23 --> 26:24 Yeah.
26:24 --> 26:36 We only have four spots, and we're trying to make four recommendations that represent the SNES to somebody. Somebody who's never played a video game on the SNES before. We're not going to give him more than one jrpg, are we?
26:37 --> 26:48 We are literally talking about the best game on the Super Nintendo. There may be one game on here that would trumpet. And it just depends on what I had for breakfast this morning.
26:48 --> 26:48 Okay.
26:50 --> 26:52 No, I don't. I. I agree with. I agree with Jake.
26:53 --> 26:54 All right. All right.
26:54 --> 27:08 If we are going to, like, I. I kind of agree. Maybe I'm. I. Initially, I laughed and I made the comment, but we might want to look at everything that isn't a JRPG first.
27:09 --> 27:12 Are we just going to completely ignore Paperboy 2?
27:13 --> 27:14 Yes.
27:14 --> 27:36 Yes. Yes, we are. Okay, so real quick, okay. Chrono Trigger, Metroid these. Before we do, we move on Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 6, Final Fantasy 4. Those are. We feel strongly about all three. Are we just strongly talking about 6 and Chrono Trigger? I only really cared about these two. Chrono Trick and 6.
27:37 --> 27:45 I mean, here's the thing. Whether, you know what, GP even agrees that in some ways, 6 is a.
27:45 --> 27:48 Superior game to 4 version. He just likes 4 best.
27:48 --> 27:51 But 4 is his is his history. Right. I get it.
27:51 --> 27:51 Right.
27:51 --> 27:56 I get it. Like, there are games that I play that are trash that I love because it's my history.
27:56 --> 27:59 Right? Whoa, whoa, whoa.
27:59 --> 28:02 Yeah. I didn't say look, I said me.
28:02 --> 28:06 I said, okay, okay, Final Fantasy 4 is a treasure.
28:07 --> 28:27 But here's. No, no, no. I'm not saying it isn't. I'm saying I. You know, when I look at the games I play, like, do I love Ultima V? Yes, I do. Is it Superior to Ultima 3 or 4? No, but I love it. Right? I mean, right? So. So, like, just be careful what you're.
28:27 --> 28:28 Calling trash around here, bud.
28:28 --> 28:29 Okay.
28:29 --> 28:38 Is six. Is six a superior game to Four? I think most of the podcast group is going to agree. Even GP in some ways. Right?
28:39 --> 28:40 I concur.
28:40 --> 28:40 Yeah.
28:40 --> 28:54 So I'm only going to shortlist just for now. It's not final. We're just shortlisting for now. Fantasy 6. I'll leave 4. Maybe we talk about it later. Speaking of hot garbage, Secret Mana, how do you guys feel about Secret Amanda? Do you really think it's one of the four?
28:55 --> 28:56 I've never played it.
28:57 --> 29:00 I've badged it, so I've played it very hard.
29:01 --> 29:01 Okay.
29:02 --> 29:08 How does it compare to Chrono Trigger, to Final Fantasy 6, and to Earthbound? How does it compare to those three?
29:08 --> 29:26 Not. Not. I mean, they're close. I'd say that. I would say that Secret Amana and. God damn it. Earthbound might be like neck and neck, but I think Earthbound has features and charm that Secret Amanda does not have.
29:27 --> 29:27 All right.
29:27 --> 29:28 Which makes it a better game.
29:29 --> 29:33 So let's hold off on JRPGs then as we go down the list and. And see.
29:33 --> 29:36 So just put everything that's a JRPG out.
29:37 --> 29:42 No. Because then I really don't think we should have more than one, to be honest. But we can put it after.
29:42 --> 29:43 You're totally right.
29:43 --> 29:46 Super Metroid. I love Super Metro.
29:47 --> 29:52 I do too. Do you think needs to be one of the four? I would agree.
29:52 --> 29:54 I think. I think we need to kick Oscar out.
29:55 --> 29:56 Wow.
29:56 --> 29:57 Why? Wow?
29:57 --> 29:57 Why?
29:59 --> 30:01 Earthbound is terrible hot take.
30:02 --> 30:05 No, it's not a hot take. He's actually correct. I can't stay in Earthbound.
30:05 --> 30:08 I'm pretty sure he hasn't played.
30:08 --> 30:12 It's because you haven't scratched and sniffed the manual.
30:12 --> 30:15 That's what's because. No, no, no. You buried.
30:15 --> 30:18 You buried in water. You put it in water. That's what it is.
30:19 --> 30:19 No.
30:19 --> 30:20 Is that Earthbound?
30:20 --> 30:22 No, that's. That's.
30:22 --> 30:24 So that was actually Star Trek.
30:25 --> 30:25 Yeah.
30:25 --> 30:30 Earthbound had a scratch. I think on the. It's either the manual or.
30:30 --> 30:31 Look.
30:31 --> 30:32 The guide.
30:32 --> 30:37 When somebody. When somebody doesn't understand fuzzy pickles, they just. They just don't understand fuzzy pickles.
30:37 --> 30:38 Yeah.
30:38 --> 30:41 You know what? I don't know if I agree with all this.
30:42 --> 30:46 Earthbound hate Super Metroid. I think that is definitely a short list.
30:46 --> 30:48 Pick. Throw that. Throw that on a pillar.
30:48 --> 30:53 It is in. It is in the fight. For the time being. It is in the fight.
30:53 --> 30:54 I don't see why.
30:54 --> 31:05 How it couldn't be Mega Man X. I could take it or leave it. I really don't give a about Mega Man X. I love Mega Man Unless. But the SNES ones I never got along to. But what do you guys think?
31:05 --> 31:23 Mega Man X is a fucking treasure. Put that bitch on the short list. That thing. Mega Man X has a fucking banger soundtrack. Fucking cool animation. Cool robots. Cool shit. It's a cool fucking game. Pillars done. We're done and done. I don't know why we're continuing.
31:23 --> 31:24 Wait, wait.
31:24 --> 31:27 Link to the Past. You can't dismiss Link to the Past.
31:27 --> 31:32 I can. Because you got to have room for both. Final Fantasy Crotch. Right? There's nothing else that's better than those two games.
31:33 --> 31:36 No, I'm sorry. Link to the Past is on the short list.
31:36 --> 31:38 It's got to be. It's got to be on the short list.
31:38 --> 31:39 You're on the short list.
31:39 --> 31:45 Super Mario World. I don't think we. I don't care for it. I don't think we could make a list.
31:45 --> 31:48 I'm gonna lose this because you guys are wrong.
31:49 --> 31:50 That's fine.
31:50 --> 31:52 Welcome to be on every other episode.
31:52 --> 32:04 You want to put one of the two best games on the Super Nintendo on here? One of the two best games. It was wrong. Now who put pilot wings on here?
32:04 --> 32:06 I didn't put pilot wings on here.
32:06 --> 32:10 We missed. And we're fine with pilot wings.
32:10 --> 32:11 God.
32:11 --> 32:12 Get out of here.
32:12 --> 32:17 I'm gonna say. Okay, next is F0. I don't think it needs to be a pillar at all.
32:17 --> 32:22 No. But Super Mario Kart should be up there.
32:22 --> 32:26 I think. I think I agree with that one. You don't think so? Chard?
32:26 --> 32:29 I'm not. I just don't care for racers very much. But that's.
32:29 --> 32:32 I'm sorry. But I have had more fun.
32:35 --> 32:40 Pillars are gonna be wrong. And that's fine. Have to learn to live with it, I guess.
32:40 --> 32:43 Super Mario All Stars is good, but.
32:43 --> 32:50 I don't think it's a hard one because it did introduce us to the original Super Mario 2, man.
32:50 --> 32:51 Right. But I don't think that's.
32:52 --> 32:54 That's not enough to carry this game. Or carry.
32:54 --> 33:17 Also, it doesn't represent the snes. It represents Nintendo. Right. The nes. Okay. Right. Is my. Is my argument for it. Because we only have four slots. And so. Kick it out. I don't like Earthbound, but I recognize that you guys do. And see how nice Earthbound has to be in the fight Contra 3. I know it's good, but I don't think it's like must play on this nest.
33:17 --> 33:20 Yeah. We can kick it. Kick it.
33:20 --> 33:21 Street Fighter 2 Turbo.
33:23 --> 33:26 I'm gonna throw out that. The arcade.
33:29 --> 33:30 Super Nintendo.
33:30 --> 33:32 But it trumped all of the consoles.
33:32 --> 33:33 Yes.
33:33 --> 33:39 And sure, it was nice to be able to play Soup, to play Street Fighter 2.
33:41 --> 33:41 Yeah.
33:41 --> 33:42 But it's not a pillar.
33:43 --> 33:49 It's that whole, like, Bob, I want Street Fighter. And we have Street Fighter at home. And that's Street Fighter at home.
33:49 --> 33:53 Oscar's. Oscar's asking, hey, Jake, answer Oscar for me.
33:54 --> 33:57 I can't pull the chat up because I got the spreadsheet up, so Metroid is better.
33:57 --> 34:01 Okay. Who limited the SNES to only four pillars?
34:03 --> 34:19 How do you hold up? How do you hold up? Ancient Greek architecture. There's only four pillars. That's how it works. It's. What's four pillars? Four pillars holds the roof up. You can't have three. That's stupid. Two doesn't make sense. It's an archway. One is just laugh. Five is just. What are we.
34:20 --> 34:21 Yeah, what is this?
34:24 --> 34:27 In the words of Monty Python, five is right out.
34:27 --> 34:29 Five is right out.
34:29 --> 34:43 You know what? You know what it is, is, it's supposed to. It's a riff on people doing Mount Rushmores. I'm Canadian. We don't have a Mount Rushmore. But you have five. It only have one face. And then you'd be really upset with me if we did one pick out of all these games.
34:43 --> 34:45 It's like Celine Dion or some.
34:45 --> 34:47 Yeah, it would end up.
34:47 --> 34:48 It would end up being Chrono trigger.
34:48 --> 34:55 Final Fantasy 6 belongs on my Mount Rushmore. If we had one. But there's only one spot. You know just how it is.
34:55 --> 34:55 Okay.
34:55 --> 34:58 You can't even fit Rush on that mountain. Rushmore.
35:00 --> 35:03 Oscar, being Canadian isn't our fault.
35:06 --> 35:10 Fair, Oscar. It's. It's reference to an American mountain.
35:11 --> 35:35 Yes. That's what it is. Okay. Street Fighter 2 Turbo. I think that's a great game, but I think I agree with you, Sinistar, in that the best version of that is in the arcades. And if you just go to somebody and say, hey, here's this brand new. Here's a Super Nintendo and here's the four games that you must play that best represent this system. I don't think Street Fighter is there because Street Fighter is better than the arcades.
35:35 --> 35:35 Agree.
35:35 --> 35:36 That's my argument. Okay.
35:37 --> 35:43 Again, it's a wish.com Street Fighter version. It really is. I mean, it's just. It just isn't very good on the console.
35:43 --> 35:44 It is.
35:44 --> 35:55 I remember how excited. No, I don't. Because I remember how excited I was to be like, we get to play this at home now. And we played it at home and I was like, this is lame. I want a. I want a joystick. I want. I want.
35:55 --> 35:55 Okay.
35:55 --> 35:56 Arcade experience.
35:57 --> 36:00 I want three buttons on top of three buttons.
36:00 --> 36:04 Yeah. It's not gonna play blanco with this. Come on.
36:05 --> 36:17 I don't disagree. I mean, I think you're playing a fighting game. You need the proper format. I'm with you there. I mean, there were arcade sticks for the home for console, but they weren't very good. Okay. Super Bomberman, I don't think is.
36:18 --> 36:35 It's a fantastic game. I feel like if you have the ability to play it multi tap or at least a couple players, awesome. But as far as just like a bare bone snes, it's a good game.
36:35 --> 36:40 I feel like Bomberman is like a niche kind of selection because that's on everything.
36:40 --> 36:41 It's a hidden gem.
36:41 --> 36:51 Maybe it's not a hidden gem. I just. I feel like people who love Bomberman are like, you either love Bomberman or you don't give a. Like, there's no in between.
36:51 --> 36:54 Yes. And I do like Bomb. I do.
36:54 --> 36:54 I don't.
36:54 --> 36:56 We did a whole episode on Barman before.
36:56 --> 36:57 Got a big Bomberman.
36:57 --> 37:02 That's where Eric and the Floaters comes from. It's. It was the original Bomberman Super Tech Mobile.
37:02 --> 37:05 Eric and the Floaters is my nickname in high school.
37:05 --> 37:09 I have never played it. I'm sorry, gp. I've never played Super Techmobile.
37:10 --> 37:21 The only angle I'm coming at with that one is we have four pillars. Do we reference a sport of some kind? I don't think we have the room. And if we did, it would. I would probably say maybe Mario Kart's sports game.
37:21 --> 37:26 And I'm the sports guy here. Outside of GP, I just. I don't think so.
37:26 --> 37:29 Is it top 20 maybe? Sure, sure.
37:29 --> 37:29 Yeah.
37:30 --> 37:35 I put a top 10, top 15. But I don't know about top four.
37:35 --> 37:44 Star Fox. I don't think so, but I know as a graphical showpiece. But then at the same time, I would have taken pilot Wings Over Star.
37:44 --> 38:02 Fox and the fact that they like sandwiched in another processor on top of it. Yeah, I mean, that is a. That is a technological marvel. Listen to me, Jeff. Star Fox is a technological marvel. Top seven.
38:03 --> 38:03 So.
38:03 --> 38:04 Absolutely.
38:04 --> 38:07 So was the 32X. Let's move on.
38:07 --> 38:12 Okay. The top seven star fox is top seven. Absolutely.
38:12 --> 38:29 Yeah. I could argue a top ten of SNES games for sure. I could see us putting it in there, but not. There's no way it's a four. Four pillars, Tetris, Dr. Mario. Same deal as other arguments where If I think of the best version of Tetris or the best version of Dr. Mario, I don't think SNES. I think NES or Game Boy personally.
38:30 --> 38:30 Or later.
38:31 --> 38:40 Or later. Yeah. So I think that's if we agree that one Shadowrun. I know I've never played it. I've only played the Genesis one, which is different.
38:41 --> 38:51 It's a great game. It is a fantastic representation of the Shadowrun. Like rpg. It's worth playing.
38:52 --> 38:54 Is it worth being on a pillar?
38:54 --> 38:54 Right? Yeah.
38:54 --> 38:58 No. Not with what's in competition. Not with what's in competition.
38:58 --> 38:59 That's fair.
39:00 --> 39:03 Final Fight. I think if we were to look at.
39:03 --> 39:07 We don't have any beat em ups. I don't. I would think it should be up there.
39:07 --> 39:16 I would take TMNT over Final Fight. We can talk about it.
39:16 --> 39:40 But yeah, I mean my final fights, like it's their version of Streets of Rage. Right. And if we were putting Streets of Rage against Final Fight, Streets Rage would win. But it's. You know, it was like the introduction of. We're playing these games outside. Like they're the better graphics. You know, the 16 bit, you know, haggard and his. He's the mayor but he wears overalls for some reason. That's without a shirt. I mean that's the big deal. You know, it's a whole thing.
39:40 --> 39:42 You know, that's the mayor. I want to.
39:42 --> 39:54 And I'd be throwing up. I'd be throwing up. Final Fight. I'd throw a fun and fight Sunset Riders and fucking TM and D because those are all really good games that need to duke it out. But that's just me personally.
39:54 --> 39:56 Okay, let's put it up there.
39:56 --> 40:00 I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Turtles almost always.
40:01 --> 40:06 Yeah. Turtles is a great game. Turtles in Time is fantastic. I have nothing but fond memories of that one.
40:06 --> 40:08 Sunset Riders. You think it's a pillar?
40:08 --> 40:26 I love Sunset Riders. It is maybe not quite a pillar. I mean it's better. It's a. It's a arcade game if I remember right too. It's another one that got brought over, ported to the home. I love Sunset Riders on the Super Nintendo. But it's probably just a me personal. A personal love of Sunset Riders. So maybe.
40:26 --> 40:41 I don't know. It had some really miss anything from the arcade. Is it all the characters and everything? Because that's the one thing with Final Fight is final fights missing a character. And I don't think you can do co op like you could in arcades. Like it's. It's a. It's a.
40:41 --> 40:43 Not three person obviously, but.
40:43 --> 40:43 Right.
40:43 --> 40:53 Yeah, but sensor writers. I. I don't know if it's missing anything from the arcade. I'm not sure but I mean it's like talking Captain Commando on the Super Nintendo. Right? It's.
40:53 --> 40:54 Was that not as good?
40:54 --> 40:57 No, I think it is. I think Captain Commander did make it to the port. I think it is.
40:57 --> 40:59 I didn't know that, but. Okay.
40:59 --> 41:02 Obviously it's way better than in the arcade. Than it is in the.
41:02 --> 41:09 All right. Okay. So Sunset Riders is an arcade port. I think there's a discussion there.
41:09 --> 41:11 We could boot the Sunset Riders. It's fine.
41:11 --> 41:11 It's all right.
41:11 --> 41:14 Well, I've never played Peacekeepers, so. Peacekeepers. So I don't know.
41:15 --> 41:19 No, I put up there as. Because I want to try it later because it looked interesting.
41:20 --> 41:26 Act Razor. Like that is a really unique. That is almost a staple.
41:27 --> 41:39 Yeah. I mean it's the world building and then the side scrolling fighting platforming thing. It's a really cool mix of stuff. I. Act Razor is kind of a big deal. I think in. In the Super Nintendo era there's.
41:39 --> 41:40 There's no.
41:40 --> 41:43 No other console has something quite like Act Razor.
41:43 --> 41:48 I don't think Even Act Razor 2 was. Because it didn't have things. Act Razor 1 hand.
41:49 --> 41:49 Right.
41:49 --> 41:53 And when they redid it for Steam, they brought all that extra back. So.
41:53 --> 41:54 Yeah.
41:55 --> 42:00 Super Castlevania. I don't think it's a pillar and I think it's a good game. I think it's a great game.
42:00 --> 42:05 I. I noticed we skipped right over Gradius 3. I noticed we skipped right over.
42:05 --> 42:07 I'm sorry. Okay. Gradius 3.
42:07 --> 42:08 Absolutely unintentional.
42:08 --> 42:11 I mean here's the thing is we don't have a shmup on the list.
42:12 --> 42:15 I mean he's right. We do. We have Super R type. Didn't we put super hard type?
42:15 --> 42:16 No, we didn't know.
42:16 --> 42:17 We didn't put that on there.
42:17 --> 42:20 I think radius 3 is superior to super R type.
42:21 --> 42:21 That's fine.
42:25 --> 42:27 Is Sunset Riders a shmup?
42:28 --> 42:34 Yeah, well I'm. Yeah, actually it's. He's right. It is. It is. It's about dodging. It's a bullet hell essential thing.
42:34 --> 42:38 Okay. I don't know. Sunset Riders.
42:38 --> 42:44 Sunset Riders is basically a beat em up but a bullet hell beat him up because you're shooting while you're.
42:44 --> 42:46 You're not punching. You're shooting but you're dodging.
42:46 --> 42:48 Yes, I can run a gun.
42:48 --> 42:52 Wasn't there a game on the SNES like that, like gunslingers or something?
42:52 --> 42:53 Or.
42:53 --> 42:58 Sorry, the. No, no. Wasn't it like gunslingers or something?
42:59 --> 43:00 Could be.
43:00 --> 43:15 I don't know about that one, but there have been similar games where you're. You're a character on the screen moving left and right, but you're shooting and you. And you're pointing the thing. Sunset Riders is a very slick presentation. Music is great. There's vocal voices. Like, the boss is like, bury me with my money.
43:16 --> 43:17 I love Sunset Riders.
43:17 --> 43:18 It's pretty good.
43:18 --> 43:21 And I didn't think of it as a shmup, but it is very much.
43:21 --> 43:23 It is a shmup. Yeah.
43:23 --> 43:23 Very much.
43:24 --> 43:45 Super Castlevania 4 I don't think is a pillar. I think it's a great Castlevania. It's a great Castlevania. But when I think of Castlevania, I don't think of the SNES. I think of the NES, which is where it lives. Or I think of PlayStation with Symphony of Night. I don't think Super Castlevania is one we need to worry about. What do you guys think? Unless you guys are married to it, but I don't think so.
43:46 --> 43:48 I mean, you could. You could whip around the.
43:48 --> 43:48 The.
43:48 --> 43:49 The Morning Star.
43:49 --> 44:05 Yeah. If you want to talk about Mode 7, I mean, that was a pretty good use of Mode 7. I am not. I'm not married to Castlevania 4. I think Castlevania 4 is a great game, but I don't know if it stands on one of the four pillars. I know people probably balk at us.
44:05 --> 44:14 Doing that, but I'm just going to throw this out there. Whether. Whether we pick your game or whether we pick a game or not, this entire list is worth playing people.
44:14 --> 44:15 Anyway.
44:15 --> 44:27 Yeah. This the one thing. The reality of this is the superintendo is a really fucking good system, and there is so much good stuff on here. And it is hard. It'd be hard to pick a top 50 for this platform, never mind four.
44:27 --> 44:28 Yeah. Okay.
44:28 --> 44:33 Demons Crest, same idea chart. I don't think it hangs in the top four. I can see a top 20, though.
44:33 --> 44:38 Such a fan. I'm such a homer for Demon's Crest. That's fair.
44:38 --> 45:06 Lost Vikings, I don't think belongs as a pillar. I think there's better ways to play that. And then I'm gonna say this about Mario Paint. There is nothing quite like Mario Paint on any of the console. There was, like, one art game on the Genesis, and it was utter trash. Mario Paint was not only the. The paint tools, it was also the Music synthesizer, which is very rad. And nobody's done that. It was the. And it was also the animation. You could do several frames of animation, which is pretty unique.
45:07 --> 45:07 Flies.
45:08 --> 45:09 And the fly swatter. Yeah, of course.
45:09 --> 45:11 And it introduced the mouse.
45:12 --> 45:13 Yes.
45:13 --> 45:24 Which mouse on a home console is a wild Nintendo thing to do and nobody quite does it. I think Genesis eventually got a mouse, but it was not used like it was on the snes. I think Mario Paint's worth considering.
45:25 --> 45:26 I think it's worth noting.
45:28 --> 45:31 Okay, our short list is still not.
45:32 --> 45:39 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14.
45:39 --> 45:43 We can ignore super ghouls and ghosts. We can ignore lost Vikings.
45:43 --> 45:44 Yeah, we have, we have.
45:45 --> 45:46 We've moved. We've moved on.
45:46 --> 45:48 We're at 14 without those.
45:48 --> 45:51 Sorry. Apparently I am slow to move on from things. My bad.
45:51 --> 45:53 We're at 14 without those.
45:54 --> 46:38 Okay, so here's. So for our audio listeners, let me run off what we've. We've shortlisted. Okay, short list. Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy 6, Super Metroid, Mega Man X, Link to the Past, Super Mario World, Super Mario Kart, Earthbound, Final Fight, Turtles in Time, Sunset riders, Actraiser, Gradius 3, and Mario Paint. We now need to pick only four. And we're not ranking the four. It's not like gold, silver, bronze, tinfoil. It's not like that. It's just. It's just the four. The four games that best represent the Super Nintendo to somebody who's never played one before.
46:38 --> 46:45 It's easy. Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid, Link to the Past, Mario Paint.
46:46 --> 46:49 Okay, I got your first three. I'm with you on the first three.
46:52 --> 46:53 Oh, done.
46:53 --> 46:57 Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid.
46:58 --> 46:59 Link to Pass.
46:59 --> 47:02 Link to the Past, and fine.
47:03 --> 47:04 Earthbound.
47:04 --> 47:04 Boom.
47:06 --> 47:09 I could even. I could even cave on Earthbound.
47:10 --> 47:13 I don't. I don't think I want. Yeah.
47:13 --> 47:14 As much as I don't want to.
47:15 --> 47:25 I don't think we pick more than one jrpg. Not with just four games. Like, if you're giving the gift of SNES to somebody, you're not going to give them two role playing games. You're going to want a variety of games.
47:25 --> 47:31 Yeah, you are. If I get a SNES and someone gives me two role playing games, I'm pretty fucking excited.
47:31 --> 47:43 I would put as number four. So I would do the same three that you did the first three. Chrono Trigger, Super Metroid, Link to the Past. And I would put Super Mario Kart as number four.
47:43 --> 47:45 See, I was avoiding that one.
47:45 --> 47:45 Okay.
47:46 --> 47:46 I knew you were.
47:46 --> 47:53 We all agree. Super. A chrono trigger. Absolutely. 100. Yeah. That's a lock. Okay. That's a lock.
47:56 --> 48:02 Super Metro Metroid and Link to the Past is a lot. I think Char. Chard and I agree. Super Metroids.
48:02 --> 48:08 I honestly think all three of us would agree on at least those three. Chrono Trigger. Super Metroid Link to the Best.
48:09 --> 48:58 Yeah, I love both of them. Like when I look at my personal top five, it's. It's. I waffle between Super Metroid and Link to the Past and which one makes it in the top five. Like I. I do like them both a lot. I'm just thinking of again, different. They are very different in that. Okay, guess the perspectives like one side scroller. One is top down. But they are both and similar in that it's a exploring game, finding items to unlock, other areas to explore type of game. Right. The Metroidvania. Right. That's. That's where I'm coming from. And they're similar in that regard. Both are amazing. Like Gerald, I'm going to put them at the top, but I want to run through a couple other scenarios before we decide on those ones. I. I love both of them, but I. With four slots and if we're looking at a variety of games, I think by having both we're kind of missing out other versions of gameplay.
48:58 --> 49:03 I would take Super Metroid over Link to the Best. Like if we had to pick the two.
49:05 --> 49:05 My heart.
49:06 --> 49:06 Sorry.
49:07 --> 49:10 I like Link to the Past so much. But I.
49:10 --> 49:12 You guys are wrong and that's fine.
49:12 --> 49:18 So like, okay, here we. For platformers, for example, what's our represent? We need some kind of representation of.
49:18 --> 49:21 Platforming a Super Mario World.
49:21 --> 49:22 Okay.
49:22 --> 49:30 I mean it was the release title. It was the game that the Super Nintendo said here.
49:31 --> 49:35 I will quit this podcast if. If Super Mario World makes it to the top four.
49:35 --> 49:36 I will joke a game.
49:36 --> 49:38 I will shut off this.
49:39 --> 49:42 Wait, this is how we get charred to quit. Throw it on there. Let's go.
49:42 --> 49:43 That's all it took. Mario World.
49:44 --> 49:45 Let's go.
49:45 --> 49:57 You know, we trash Razor. It doesn't matter but you know, okay. Platformers and shooters. Super Metroid is both of those.
49:58 --> 49:59 Yeah. Yeah.
50:01 --> 50:18 So I'm thinking not Mario World, but keep Super Metroid as our platformer heart. I think Cart card is pretty good. Cart. Is there anything else we'd like? We don't have beat em Ups, but I think Beat them up.
50:18 --> 50:23 Yeah. Do we want to beat them up or do we want to shmup instead of Cart.
50:23 --> 50:44 Because our beat em ups are all arcade ports. And, like, if we're looking at what represents the snes, then maybe not a beat em up in this case. There was no. There was no exclusive fighting Game X in there. Platforming, shooting. But is. Is. Would you take Mega Man X or Super Metroid? Is what I think.
50:44 --> 50:49 Yeah. I was going to say we've already got a platformer shooter, but we don't.
50:49 --> 50:53 Have a rock paper, scissors simulator, which is what?
50:55 --> 50:57 Oh, I get you. Okay.
50:57 --> 50:59 I'm going to squeeze that guy in there best way I can.
51:00 --> 51:06 Mario Pain is very unique, but I don't think it's, like, a must play because, like, you're not really playing, you're just creating.
51:06 --> 51:10 I mean, unless. Unless you want to get. Unless you want to get the retro chivos.
51:11 --> 51:12 Is there chevos for Mario?
51:13 --> 51:14 I think there is.
51:16 --> 51:37 Speed Run. Drawing something. It's hard. Like, I'm looking at something like Actraiser for its uniqueness. But then I would. I look at Actraiser and I compare it to Mario World. I would take Mario World over Act Razor. I would take Mega Man X over ActRaiser Radius 3. I'm sure it's great, but it's sure.
51:37 --> 51:39 Mark Mario belongs up there.
51:40 --> 51:41 Mario whatever.
51:41 --> 51:43 I think. I don't think Mario Kart.
51:44 --> 51:54 Your arguments are invalid. And I don't care anymore. You're really gonna sit down on Mega Man X for Mario Kart? Yeah, absolutely.
51:55 --> 51:56 I. I have a story to tell.
51:56 --> 52:01 I don't need stories about how you have friends and brothers, and I don't have either of them.
52:01 --> 52:34 I have a story to tell. So I built. I built a retro piece, and I took it to work one day, and we had a wall of 16 televisions, and I plugged that in and had Mario Kart display on every single 16 televisions. And there was a conference room where they were doing training across the hall with a glass window in it. And the trainer lost his audience because they saw me playing Mario Kart on.
52:34 --> 52:41 The television because the trainer was boring. A. And B, those people have never been outside of their fucking houses.
52:42 --> 52:47 And that entire training group came over and we played CART for an hour.
52:48 --> 52:53 Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Just because it's so accessible.
52:55 --> 52:57 Just because it's so accessible.
52:57 --> 52:58 That's fine.
52:58 --> 52:58 I'm.
52:58 --> 53:09 No. Okay, hold on, hold on. No, no, no. As much as it pains me, I'm willing to give on Mario World. Chard wanted paint. Chard wanted paint.
53:09 --> 53:13 I thought about paint because paint was unique. It has the uniquity to it that it is.
53:13 --> 53:18 It is unique. Like, do we think it's. It's. It hangs with them though? Like.
53:18 --> 53:27 No. No, it doesn't. I don't think any Mario game hangs with any of these games that we're trying to pick here. I don't think a single one of those Mario games charge.
53:27 --> 53:30 Just a chart's a Genesis kid and hates Mario.
53:31 --> 53:37 I mean, I like Mario. There are better games on here than Mario. Like I. Mega man is.
53:38 --> 53:46 If you were to put Mario All Stars and Mario World in front of me, I would take All Stars over Mario World personally. But it feels weird.
53:46 --> 53:47 But it's just giving a list of.
53:47 --> 54:04 The four pillars, right? Yeah, it's a port. It feels weird getting less of the representative of the SNES and not mentioning Mario World or the Mario platforming. But if we have Mario Paint or Mario Kart, then I think I could live without Mario World. But it does feel weird not having on our list. So. I don't know.
54:05 --> 54:14 You need to get over the fact that because Mario isn't in a four pillars thing for a Nintendo game, it's okay to not be that way. It's fine.
54:15 --> 54:30 It feels like to me. Let me tell you what this feels like. We did. We did a bracket episode on freaking platformers and you sickos to not pick the original Super Mario Brothers. And I still feel weird. I still feel dirty. Not picking the original 82 can.
54:30 --> 54:35 82 can eat my entire ass behind the dumpster. The whole.
54:35 --> 54:50 It's okay to feel dirty, to be right. It doesn't have to. You don't have to be correct and feel clean. You can lie and then feel better about it tomorrow if you want to. But we told the truth. And you know what? Sometimes the truth hurts. Okay? Sometimes you have to charge to dirty yourself up a little bit.
54:50 --> 54:57 Chard, I'm gonna throw out that you. Your three. You started the top four pillar on this last Mario paint.
54:57 --> 54:58 I did.
54:58 --> 54:58 And you.
54:58 --> 55:02 You got Mario and Mario paint.
55:02 --> 55:08 You got three of them. You got three of the four nailed down right off the bat.
55:08 --> 55:13 I know. And I want Final Fantasy 6 on there. But you know what? I'm bending. I'm bending a little bit.
55:13 --> 55:17 Well, I'm bending, saying, you know, we don't have Earthbound on there.
55:17 --> 55:18 You're just wrong.
55:18 --> 55:29 Well, I'm bending, saying we don't have Earthbound on there. Because Earthbound is God damn clever. And. And. And just. It's a joy to play.
55:29 --> 55:30 It's a gym.
55:30 --> 55:35 Yeah. But it's no graphical showcase of the system like pilot wings. Really Is pilot wings, I think should be on this list.
55:36 --> 55:37 It could just be a gym.
55:37 --> 55:42 You know what? You know what? If that's our argument, I'll give pilot wings number four. Pilot wings.
55:44 --> 55:53 Do I really have to eat crow for pilot wings? Do I really like. If I'm really that adamant about that, I'm like, pilot wigs.
55:53 --> 55:55 What you're talking about not having else.
55:55 --> 56:01 Gets in look, that's like, pick the least favorite person at work just so somebody I really don't like doesn't look.
56:01 --> 56:03 Pick. Pick Cart or pilot wings.
56:04 --> 56:36 What a choice. Here's the thing with Mario Kart, right? Is there better Mario Karts? Oh, absolutely. I even think the Game Boy Advance Mario Kart is a much better game than the Cesspool. It started it. And nobody, and I mean nobody, has done a kart racing game like Mario Kart. Everybody who's tried has failed. Even the good ones are, I don't feel are as good as Mario Kart. Like, I like Diddy Kong Racing is great. Still not as good as Mario Kart. It's good, but it's not Mario Kart good.
56:36 --> 56:38 I want to see Char do that face again.
56:38 --> 56:43 Just put Mario Kart on there so we can all just move on with.
56:43 --> 56:46 Our lives so we can finish the episode.
56:48 --> 56:53 We. You know, if I just agree, we will be at an hour, and it's fine.
56:53 --> 57:00 I just want. I want to make sure because, like, I am also, like, not sold on the idea of having Link to the Past and Super Metroid together on the list. That's my thing too.
57:00 --> 57:06 I don't know why. They're both. They are. They are clearly pillars of the Super Nintendo.
57:06 --> 57:07 All right.
57:09 --> 57:15 You know what? I'm gonna have Monterey Jack and sharp Cheddar. No, I can only have one cheese on my sand.
57:15 --> 57:15 Yes.
57:16 --> 57:16 No.
57:16 --> 57:17 Yeah, no.
57:17 --> 57:18 You mix.
57:18 --> 57:19 We can do pillars of cheeses.
57:19 --> 57:22 Wait, wait, wait. He's Canadian. He only gets one cheese.
57:22 --> 57:28 Look, you can't have Parmesan and Parmel or the hell. The other one is the.
57:28 --> 57:30 Is Parma Oregano. Well, who are you?
57:30 --> 57:31 What's the name of them?
57:31 --> 57:35 You know what? You know why Jake is picking these? Because he has one outlet in his house, and he's bitter.
57:36 --> 57:40 I'm not crazy. There's. There's two kind. There's Parmesan. Was it Parmesan?
57:40 --> 57:42 Parmigiano. Reggiano. You're welcome.
57:42 --> 57:48 That's the one. Yeah, that's the official one. That's the real one. And half the Green Shaker in Canada is not real.
57:48 --> 57:54 And Munster and all kinds of stuff. Just. They just marry together very well. But that's fine. You can live your one cheese life.
57:54 --> 58:00 All right. Are we. Are we then. Okay. If you guys agree, then we'll lock Link to the past and Super Metroid. I wasn't sure.
58:01 --> 58:03 It's Turtles in Time is number four. Let's go.
58:03 --> 58:04 No.
58:04 --> 58:05 There it is. That's a better choice.
58:05 --> 58:07 I'm. I'm in Turtles in Time.
58:07 --> 58:08 I'm in with Turtles in Time.
58:09 --> 58:14 No. No. Because it's an arcade. Okay?
58:14 --> 58:17 Jake will not budge on this Mario thing. He won't do it.
58:17 --> 58:17 Yeah.
58:17 --> 58:22 It's like Nintendo's gonna hunt us down if we don't put Mario on our list. They're gonna.
58:22 --> 58:23 We're a big podcast.
58:25 --> 58:36 And they're gonna come flying in from helicopters into my window, my second floor, kick me in the face and arrest my ass. Because we didn't put any Mario games on our four pillars.
58:36 --> 58:44 FBI. Open up. Like, what is it, officer? Am I being swatted? No. You didn't put Mario in your top four of test games. And we're. El Salvador.
58:45 --> 58:55 Sell Salvador. You're gonna go to a secret prison no one knows about. It's worse than West Point. A, Guantanamo. B. I don't.
58:55 --> 58:57 I think we pick a Mario game.
58:57 --> 59:00 I. I got. I got the tiebreaker. I got the tiebreaker.
59:00 --> 59:04 No, he's right. It's Mario. Has to be Mario Star Fox.
59:05 --> 59:06 No way in hell.
59:06 --> 59:08 Jake. Jake ain't gonna bend to Star Fox.
59:08 --> 59:08 There's no way.
59:08 --> 59:12 Like he will not bend the knee to Star Fox. You won't do it.
59:12 --> 59:16 That game is trash. I'm like, I know Super Mario RPG after.
59:16 --> 59:21 So Dumpster fire. That game will never see the light of day in this.
59:21 --> 59:21 Really?
59:21 --> 59:22 Do we ever again?
59:22 --> 59:23 Super Mario rpg.
59:23 --> 59:32 We don't need Throne Trigger. We have Mario RPG at play. If I have the support from chart about Mario rpg, I'll gladly put that on there. You don't have Mario slot and our JRPG all in one go.
59:33 --> 59:33 Absolutely.
59:33 --> 59:34 Great game.
59:34 --> 59:38 Damn. No. No. Absolutely not.
59:38 --> 59:41 Do we. Do we need to pull out a randomizer and just.
59:42 --> 59:42 Just deal with.
59:42 --> 59:49 Just put Super Mario Kart on there. Everybody loves Super Mario Kart. I'm the odd man out. That's fine. Whatever.
59:50 --> 59:50 Open critic.
59:50 --> 01:00:00 Well, look at you guys and your Xbox controllers. You know what other fucking handed Jake and your friends and your families that play video games.
01:00:00 --> 01:00:01 Jake.
01:00:01 --> 01:00:01 Whatever.
01:00:01 --> 01:00:06 Chard picked the top three right off the bat. He's already got three. We. You and I get to fight about four.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:13 We. We Get. We get the four, we get the scraps. Because one legendary gamer on our team has picked three of the slots.
01:00:13 --> 01:00:17 I've got all this pizza crust I'm not gonna eat. You guys can eat it then.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:19 Mario Kart is my pizza crust.
01:00:19 --> 01:00:20 Let's go, stupid.
01:00:20 --> 01:00:21 You know what? Okay.
01:00:21 --> 01:00:23 Hawaiian pizza crust.
01:00:23 --> 01:00:29 We have no sports games. We have no Mario, and Mario Kart fills out slot.
01:00:29 --> 01:00:31 Just put Mario Kart on this. Fine.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:31 Yeah.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:35 Who cares? Nobody cares. It's stupid.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:37 There it is, folks.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:46 We could just have. We could have just had the Bermuda Triangle of games, but you have to have a fourth pillar. You have to have a square. You can't.
01:00:46 --> 01:00:47 There it is, folks.
01:00:47 --> 01:00:49 Tri point, our.
01:00:49 --> 01:00:57 Our four pillars. Act Razor, Super Bomberman, Gradius 3, and Earthbound. There's our four.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:59 Done and done.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:14 No, I think despite Char disagreeing with the fourth pizza crust of scraps he's giving me instead of Star garbage, I think you're right, though, Char, with the first three. And since I think you agree, like, it is hard to deny the first three.
01:01:14 --> 01:01:20 So I don't know why you're even arguing that link to the past. And Super Metroid shouldn't be together. They should be married.
01:01:20 --> 01:01:26 If you haven't. If you haven't played chrono trigger in 2025, do yourself a favor.
01:01:27 --> 01:01:28 Go back in time and play it.
01:01:30 --> 01:01:40 Yeah. And like, even looking at Finale 6, which I love, Final Fantasy 6, I think Chrono Trigger is the much better RPG for something new to a system by far.
01:01:40 --> 01:01:43 Totally. I don't totally agree with that. But yes, it's less complicated.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:59 I think it is. Other than one hockey stick, it is a very accessible. With an amazing story. In particular, if you do the side quests, the story is. The story will rip you apart and put you back together.
01:02:00 --> 01:02:04 Yeah, it's a great story. All right. If there's no changes.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:07 Oh, there's changes. You just won't do them.
01:02:08 --> 01:02:14 Look, we all look forward to Chard posting his personalized Four Pillars of SNES games on YouTube.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:19 Final Fantasy 6, Chrono Trigger, Earthbound, Mega Man X.
01:02:19 --> 01:02:25 All right, folks, we've got Shadowrun, Tetris, Peacekeepers, and Actraiser. We're good.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:30 What if we make the rules so that we can only pick one game with super in the title? Does that.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:36 And Shaq Fu. Let's put Final Fantasy 6 up there, then. Show me Mega Man X.
01:02:36 --> 01:02:42 Wait a minute. If you're going to throw that rule out, Jake, Super Mario Kart's gotta go.
01:02:42 --> 01:02:43 It does.
01:02:43 --> 01:02:44 Oh, no.
01:02:44 --> 01:02:45 Oh, no.
01:02:46 --> 01:02:49 Then it comes back to Mario Paint. How do you guys like fly swatting.
01:02:50 --> 01:02:51 In 16 bits Super Mario paint?
01:02:51 --> 01:02:53 Yeah, we have our four folks.
01:02:53 --> 01:03:01 All right, so the short. So our four pillars of Super Nintendo. These are the four games that we think a new player to the SNES.
01:03:01 --> 01:03:06 These are the four things. These are the four games that I was brow beaten into thinking.
01:03:06 --> 01:03:10 You picked the first fucking three. I did. Jesus.
01:03:10 --> 01:03:11 And you agreed with me, right?
01:03:12 --> 01:03:17 Yeah, beaten into picking the first three by hand.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:24 Whatever. All right, you get, you get the fire hose if you don't pick Super Mario Kart. All right, fine.
01:03:24 --> 01:03:27 It puts the Mario Kart in skin or gets the hose again.
01:03:29 --> 01:03:31 All right, Buffalo Bill. Get out of here.
01:03:33 --> 01:04:28 Alberta. Bill. Okay, our four pillars of the Super Nintendo we think best represents the Super Nintendo. Somebody brand new to the planet. Our Chrono Trigger, Zelda link to the past. Super Metroid and Super Mario Kart. If you disagree with our list, which some people might because there is no Mario World on there or Mega man x or radius 3, then you can send us an email at podcast at pressby to cancel.com or you can go to pressby to cancel.com and join our discord and check us out there and chew us out there. Or hit us up on Twitter or preferably on Blue Sky. You can find Blue skies over at Blue sky as well. We. Oh, we are also members of the Superpod Network podcast superpodnetwork.com check them out for other fine, fine retro podcasting. They also probably agree more than we do otherwise. Guys, where can we find you? Sinstar, what are you up to lately?
01:04:29 --> 01:04:45 Not a lot. Although hopefully tomorrow, August 16th, hopefully I'm over on Solar Cakes Channel doing some DJ work, but otherwise I'm here suffering pain in my ankles.
01:04:46 --> 01:04:51 All right, Chart, how about you? What have you been up to? You're going to be streaming Super Mario Kart anytime now, right?
01:04:52 --> 01:05:34 Yeah, no, I'm going to do a full playthrough of Super Mario World because I hate it almost as much as I love Donkey Kong Country. No, I'm playing. I'm playing Silent Hill 3 right now. We're kind of. We're dabbling with achievements, but I'm also. I've gotten reason back on my computer. Computer. And I've been tinkering with sounds and, and music and stuff, and there might be, I don't know, sometime in the next couple months, a music stream if I can figure out how the. I'm gonna do it. Other than that, just, just doing the horror games right now. Just playing all the spooky stuff on. On the retro consoles. That's where I'm at. Updated the channel. I've got a new video, a new kind of a shocker video.
01:05:34 --> 01:05:35 You've got trailer, right?
01:05:36 --> 01:05:39 Yeah, a little trailer about maybe some changes coming to the channel at some point.
01:05:41 --> 01:06:18 Great. And for me, mostly me, I've been focusing on, you know, really dialing in and focusing on Half Life two for my Sisyphean game this year. I don't have it publicly on YouTube because people on YouTube don't. Can't take a joke. But if you check out our Discord, the Cisphan channel, you can see a video where I got some solid, solid progress in Half Life 2. And it's more than just installing it. So feel free to check that video out. If you're interested, you can go see it. Otherwise, I think we'll do a sysphene check in episode probably next little bit. Yeah. Otherwise, I mean, this has been press p to cancel. It's been a fun episode. Thanks for watching and listening. See you later.
01:06:18 --> 01:06:23 Mario World sucks, but Mario Kart's great.
01:06:34 --> 01:06:59 Sam.