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We take our retro bus past 50mph and speed back to 1994; a year when Nintendo and Sega were locked in fierce console warfare, and PC gaming was branching into what would become some of the most iconic franchises in history. Honestly, this might be one of the best years in gaming. This week we give our picks for Game of the Year: 1994.
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00:00 --> 00:07 Hey, guys, 1994 was a banner year. Do you know why I graduated high school today on.
00:27 --> 00:28 You went to high.
00:28 --> 00:33 School with as many high school nicknames as he's had.
00:33 --> 00:35 What the hell's a nickname?
00:35 --> 00:36 Yeah, exactly.
00:37 --> 01:19 Don't nickname over the intro. Welcome in, everybody, to another episode of Press B to cancel your favorite podcast that's taken a couple weeks off, if you didn't guess it. Today we're talking about 1994. This is an ongoing series that we've been doing where we basically pick a year, a retro year. We've kind of been working both directions. We sometimes go into the 80s, sometimes go into the 90s, and this one today is a banner year, a banger of a year. We have some absolutely epic games, names that everybody knows for this year.
01:19 --> 01:34 I'm your host, Mega man the Wily Wars. I think we can just probably just get right into the game of the year that we all agree on and talk about the wonderful Genesis hit that was exclusive to the American SEGA Channel. We all love Wily wars so very much.
01:35 --> 01:40 Can I tell you that that game actually got mentioned organically with a conversation with my brother this week?
01:41 --> 01:42 That's the power of Wily Wars.
01:42 --> 01:52 No, he was literally just killing time and didn't want to invest in anything new that he was going to get hooked into because he.
01:52 --> 01:52 That's right.
01:52 --> 01:56 Getting the switch two in a couple of days.
01:58 --> 01:58 All right.
01:58 --> 02:01 He spun up Wily wars, as I say.
02:01 --> 02:02 Did he not have Circus Charlie at his.
02:02 --> 02:10 Knowing he would probably enjoy it to some degree, but not enough to where it would hook him more to where he would not want to play his new games.
02:11 --> 02:14 So all you got to do is listen to the music and that'll turn you right off.
02:14 --> 02:17 All right, well, Sega Kid Chard. But any. Anyway, yes.
02:17 --> 02:20 Who needs a cold shower when Wiley wars is out there?
02:20 --> 02:38 We're not talking about Circus Charlie today. And as much as Jake wants to, we're not talking Wiley wars today. I don't know, maybe we are. I don't know. Jake's picks. I don't know. Jake's picks. Anyway, and I am not alone today. I'm.
02:40 --> 02:42 Yeah, yeah, I know. Charts, picks. We're good. Don't worry.
02:43 --> 02:44 Jesus Christ.
02:45 --> 02:47 You're right. It's been about a few weeks.
02:48 --> 02:52 We're completely out of practice. We're just proven we're not AI. Okay.
02:52 --> 02:53 Hey, Chard, how are you?
02:54 --> 03:04 I'm great. Sorry. YouTube, but I'm fantastic. You know, YouTube was the best alternative album for 1994, so it is A banger year.
03:04 --> 03:05 That's great.
03:06 --> 03:18 I'm doing much better now. I mean, you know, we have a podcast of four, sometimes five guys in their 40s and 50s. One of us is going to hurt their back and be out for a week. And that was probably me this time. So apologies. So I'm mostly recovered now.
03:19 --> 03:25 And Wolf, you're. You're. You're actually graciously waiting for people to ask how you are.
03:26 --> 03:27 Oh, no, it's fine.
03:27 --> 03:28 How are you?
03:31 --> 03:37 I am pretty good because my Mr. Pie is somewhere in the United States at this point.
03:38 --> 03:42 Nice. Did it get tariffed?
03:43 --> 03:58 I have not been informed of any tariff stuff yet because the USPS does not yet have their hands on it. However, last I know, it was in Whittier, California two days ago, awaiting Whittier to get to the usps.
03:59 --> 04:00 Might I suggest.
04:02 --> 04:04 He's already going to his shelves.
04:04 --> 04:06 He's already got one. Get your bingo cards out.
04:06 --> 04:14 This is my. This is for those listening. I'm showing my 8bitdo M30, which is the genesis. There you go. Oh, yeah, there you go. There you go.
04:15 --> 04:18 You might. But it might be too late.
04:18 --> 04:24 Yeah. I also have the. The SN30 or whichever. The one that's the Super Nintendo.
04:24 --> 04:29 Yeah, the SN30, that's the Pro. But there's also the classic SN30, which I have a couple of as well.
04:30 --> 04:41 That's awesome. We may have to do. Okay. We've done a couple Mr. Episodes, but we haven't done a Mr. Pie. And I know it's essentially the same.
04:41 --> 04:43 Wow, that was a weird statement.
04:44 --> 04:45 Well, wow.
04:47 --> 04:49 Yes. But I learned that we're going to.
04:49 --> 04:53 Bakery and we're going to get a pie and we're going to find the Mr. That baked it and then we're.
04:53 --> 05:29 Going to talk about it. I would love to hear what the, like, how your take is on it, because this is for those that are unaware. This is a third party, essentially clone of the. Of the DE10 Nano, which is the main board for the Mr. Project. And so this is a cheaper, supposedly equivalent, equivalent alternative. Which is awesome because the DE10 nano, basically, they got wind of what it is, the pandemic happened and they basically just said, price. I don't know, what are consoles going for these days? $400. Yeah, sounds good.
05:30 --> 05:33 That was way back in 1994 when they started talking about that, huh?
05:33 --> 05:34 Yes. Yeah, of course.
05:34 --> 05:37 Way to bring us back on track.
05:37 --> 05:43 Yeah, I can. Once I have my Mr. PI, I'll be able to play all these games we talk about on that.
05:43 --> 05:44 Yes. Yes you will. Okay.
05:44 --> 05:46 Mr. PI was my nickname in high school.
05:48 --> 06:10 Let's get right into it. So for those that have not listened to these episodes before, we, we have each picked two games for the year. We have a runner up, which we'll do first. And then we have our game of the year for 1994. I believe we're starting with Chard Monk today. Chard, what is your runner up?
06:10 --> 06:24 I'm picking first because I'm tired of Jake Steele. And so to, to remedy that, I'm. I'm going to go ahead and go first. I'm going to pick Wily wars for. No, I'm just kidding. Absolutely not.
06:24 --> 06:25 As you should.
06:25 --> 06:26 As I should.
06:26 --> 06:27 Somebody needs to.
06:27 --> 06:50 Way back in the day, Nintendo was, was feeding us the goods. Right back in 1994. We were eating really good back in the 90s and the fours. So we're gonna go ahead and lead this off with a hot banger known as, you guessed it, Super Metroid. Super Metroid, which I believe is Metroid 3 if we do the math correctly.
06:50 --> 06:53 Yes, it says actually before the title.
06:53 --> 08:13 Screen says it in the title screen. For those of you who didn't know. And everybody thought, wait, how do we get from Metroid 1 to Metroid 3 on the Super Nintendo? Nobody owned a Game boy, which Metroid 2 was on the Game Boy, which was the Return of Samus, which was a great game and then it's a good game. 18 remakes of it since then. But we're not talking about that one. We're talking about. That's right, Metro. Super Metroid, which easily one of, one of the top games off of the Super Nintendo period. Music wise, character wise, we all love Samus. She's badass, she's got some awesome armors. The, the, the, the sprites in this game are, bar none, some of the best. You get some good jump scares in this game with the Crockermeier. You got some really cool, unique boss fights that you do with Craig and Ridley and all the others just unlocking the whole area. It's basically just the original Metroid, but beefed up, way prettier and way more fun. I mean, who doesn't like running around, grabbing speed boosters and then zipping your ass across the map? I've played this game so many freaking times and I absolutely adore every second that I play in this game. Even that stupid underwater boss that grabs you and it takes 500 years to figure out that you need to electrocute yourself to kill it. That Boss was. Was quite tough. I can't remember which one that was.
08:13 --> 08:15 Called, but is there another way to kill him?
08:15 --> 08:16 I thought, what is her name?
08:16 --> 08:49 It was probably quite a few. Yeah, she's. When you. I'll tell you what, man. Some of the secrets in this game, and they're not even secrets because it's where the map takes you, but stuff like blowing up the glass tube with the super bomb and. Yeah. When you've run through that area 800 times and then you realize that that leads you to a complete, completely different area. Absolutely blew my mind as a kid and even subsequently as adult, I still love playing this game. I've. I've done it for many charity events and I love playing this freaking game.
08:49 --> 08:49 I'm.
08:49 --> 09:02 I'm not a speedrunner at it by any stretch of the imagination, but you'd be hard pressed to find any more action platformers like this. You know, I mean it's a metroidvanian, right? It's Metroid. It's the original Metroid Median.
09:03 --> 09:06 For the record, this is my favorite. This is my favorite Metroid.
09:06 --> 09:25 I'd have to agree. I think this is probably my all time favorite Metroid in the entire series. I don't. I, you know, we talk about the primes and the first person view and sure how cool that concept and everything was. But when it comes to side scrolling running this, there's no better Metroid than Super Metroid. My humble opinion, of course.
09:25 --> 09:33 Yeah. I mean I like and Dorada quite a bit. But I think I would say, yeah, I would agree with you. Super Metroid is definitely my favorite of the series as well.
09:34 --> 10:29 Yeah. Because one zero Mission is on a handheld. Even though it emulates what Super Metroid was doing really well and applies it to the first Metroid game. And it, I mean it one ups it in a lot of ways. It's still very small resolution screen, so it's limited real estate there and visuals. And then it's also just without Super Metroid there is no zero mission. Super, super Metroid was something special. Especially like the way that game was like show, don't tell in so many ways. And you know, you get spore spawn and it's like fade in and you start fighting this giant plant monster and then you've got. You fall down the hole with all the little alien creatures and the bird and they're showing you how to use your abilities and you don't realize it until you do.
10:30 --> 10:48 And you could choose to save them at the end. Like they come back like there's a cool, lot of really cool reoccurrences in this game. The mother Brain fight is, is spectacular on all the levels. I mean you started out very similar to the first one and then it escalates into this huge mecca brain.
10:49 --> 10:51 Cinematic as hell for a super Nintendo.
10:51 --> 10:53 The music going with it.
10:53 --> 10:55 Oh man, those moments, right?
10:56 --> 11:17 This, this one definitely still gives me chills as I play it. There's some really cool concepts to it. There's betrayal, there's redemption, there's. There's everything in this game. This game is just one of the best to come out of 1994. And it's an unfortunate that it shares a timeline with some other games that came out in that same year because this one would easily be.
11:18 --> 11:23 I was gonna say, I was gonna say in any other year, this would be a game of the year.
11:24 --> 11:26 What, the year before, the year after, easily.
11:26 --> 11:26 But.
11:26 --> 11:27 But holy crap.
11:28 --> 11:29 No, it has to be two years after.
11:30 --> 11:38 But holy crap. This, this game. I mean as a runner up, this, this game is of a tier of game of the year quality. It really is.
11:38 --> 11:44 Yeah. This is your runner up, take two. This is. Yeah, this is my runner up.
11:44 --> 11:49 Had he not picked this, this probably would have been my choice for game of the year.
11:49 --> 11:49 All right.
11:49 --> 11:55 I also want to point out that I offered it to literally anybody else and nobody took it, so that's not true.
11:55 --> 11:56 I offered to trade you.
11:57 --> 11:59 That's fair. That's fair. All right.
12:00 --> 12:07 I think next time. You're right, Wolf. Like you said offline next time we just don't tell each other our picks and we just let, we just let fate decide who gets who gets it first.
12:08 --> 12:09 So you could steal a runner up?
12:09 --> 12:13 Yeah, we have, we have a 20 minute episode because all four of us pick the same two games.
12:13 --> 12:19 Listen, my winner is a winner for a reason. Okay. And yes, it's better than Super Metro.
12:19 --> 12:20 Okay.
12:20 --> 12:52 Yeah, fantastic. No, this game, I mean it is. I'll be, I'll be, I'll be fair here though. If it weren't for the stupid moments in Dread where like I am like a ball of stress trying to get away from those whatever things are the. Yeah, I mean if it weren't for those, I, I might argue that that has a place at a competitive. Okay, so I mean realistically, Dread is almost as good. Almost as good.
12:52 --> 13:07 See, I had argue that that added feature of stress brought to the game, it makes it in a tier of its own like that. What I didn't like was the having to use the supercharged weapons to Stop the Amies. Which was.
13:07 --> 13:08 Right.
13:08 --> 13:21 Using that small stick to try and aim your arm cannon properly. It was a pain in the butt. But the stress of running from it, I mean that just. That just caters to my own jump scare nature of playing horror games. Right. So that's just my thing.
13:21 --> 13:43 Yeah. I do want to say that also. Super Metroid is part of one of my favorite hacks of all time. ROM hacks. There is a Super Metroid Cross link to the past randomizer hack where you literally can go into both games and get items in one and not the other. Like you can find the master sword in Metroid and then find the, you know, like the bombs in Metroid that for link. That cross pollination.
13:43 --> 13:44 Sounds cool. And how that all works.
13:44 --> 13:58 Freaking wizard. It's wizardry how it works and it's awesome. Very difficult to finish, but it's a lot of fun. So if anybody's not sure how to do that, just look for Metroid Cross Link to the past randomizer. There's nothing quite like that one. There really isn't.
13:59 --> 14:00 That sounds cool.
14:00 --> 14:10 All right, well, I can't really go clockwise because I'll probably end up going last because I'm hosting. So we're going to go Jake next star pattern.
14:11 --> 14:11 Sure.
14:11 --> 14:12 Yeah.
14:14 --> 14:21 My pick is. My runner up is Super Metroid. We're going to talk about Super Metroid. No, that's not what we're going to do.
14:21 --> 14:24 Runner up. Hey, leave it. Hold it for your top.
14:24 --> 14:28 This is that 20 minute episode. My runner up was Super Metroid too.
14:28 --> 14:29 That's fantastic.
14:30 --> 15:08 It's great. When we all agree. No, my runner up is going to be Dynamite Heady. I had to pick a SEGA game. I feel like we don't talk about Sega Genesis enough. And I am a SEGA kid, unlike the chart over there who does not like Wily Wars. But that's okay because I bet you he's played Dynamite Heady, which is one of my favorite games from Treasure. Anybody who knows retro games knows how. How solid Treasures games are always, always are and how usually very unique that they are. This is not a studio that does sequels. And as much as I would love to see a Dynamite Heady two at some point, I just don't think there needs to be one. For those that don't know this is like a. A mascot platformer, I guess it looks like Cuphead.
15:09 --> 15:10 I.
15:10 --> 15:28 Well, you know, in a lot of ways. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. It's. But it's more. Instead of a shooter, it's more of a like A platforming game, although level. For Those watching on YouTube, I'm showing off one of the shmup levels and I just wanted to highlight this level and how unique the character designs are. In this particular level, you're fighting a boss that almost fingered.
15:29 --> 15:29 Yeah.
15:29 --> 15:31 Starts off with one of one phase.
15:31 --> 15:32 Check your butt.
15:32 --> 16:37 Changes the age. The face sheds to show a different age of the face. And there's like a baby face, a middle age, a. A toddler and an old lady face. Like it's. It's a pretty interesting boss fight. And every phase is quite distinct and quite different. It's. And the whole game is like this. Every boss is somewhat puppet or stage inspired. The whole game takes place in over like a. A sound stage or a stage environment. So you'll see like, you know, spotlights and, and ladders and behind the scenes stuff. And then it all comes into place as you go through the level. But it's a very solid platforming game where it's called Dynamite Heady because the power ups are heads. You literally shed your head and get a new head with a different ability. And some of them are like a hammerhead which lets you destroy certain blocks and does more damage. There is a superhero head that I think affects your jumping. There's a tiny head that shrinks you down so you can go through small passageways. There's an invisible one. There's an invincibility one. There's one that shoots sparks for some reason. There's a wide variety of power ups and you kind of get them as you play through the game. In some ways, this is like Sega's answer to Kirby, if that makes sense to folks when they're thinking about this.
16:37 --> 16:38 It makes sense.
16:39 --> 17:34 But yeah, it's quite a lengthy platform game. Very difficult. There is also something called secret points. And every stage there's one or two hidden things you can do. You know, hitting a certain light fixture, killing a certain enemy or something time related. And you'll lock a secret bonus point. And it has audio cues actually, which is funny. You'll say you unlocked a secret bonus point. It's pretty interesting. But if you get those, you get a little nod at the end of the game. So to beat this game and get all the secret bonus points is quite challenging. I remember doing it as a kid once. It took me quite a bit. This is another game I first found on the SEGA Channel. And yeah, I've played this all the damn time. Like this is. This is one of my go to SEGA Genesis games. And it's. It's Treasure. Everything Treasure has made in the past was always solid. Even if I didn't like that genre. They've always made solid games. Right. So you guys played Diamond Heady. I've talked about this before on the podcast. I don't know if you guys actually sat down to try it.
17:34 --> 17:42 I have literally heard the name before today. That is literally my entire experience. I'm looking at this going, I've never seen this before.
17:43 --> 18:33 As a, as a faux SEGA kid as, as Jake likes to refer to me as. I actually, yes, I did play this game. This game is absolutely challenging and is this very difficult game as, as Jake stated. But I love the, I love the sound stage environment. I love that your, that your health is on a stage light and the boss's health is also on a stage light. I love that whole feel of it. The power ups are really cool. This, this was basically. If you couldn't. If you didn't have a Nintendo or Super Nintendo and couldn't play Kirby, this was your option on Sega and it. And it was good. And it's, it's a shame because this, this does feel like, as Jake said, like a, a mascot. Like it was trying to be the next kind of Sonic thing. But they, you know, Treasure doesn't make the sequels. So it's hard to, you know, make. Make someone the mascot if you only have one of their games.
18:34 --> 18:35 One game. Yeah.
18:35 --> 18:52 But this, this game is, is a lot of fun. It's got some really cool platforming features in it. Like Jake said, it does the shmup stuff. Cool bosses, cool enemies, exceptionally challenging game. This game is no slouch. And you gotta be real good to beat this. This one up.
18:53 --> 18:54 This looks insane.
18:55 --> 18:58 It is insane. It really is. Yeah, it truly is.
18:58 --> 19:07 This is one of the later stages I'm showing right now where it's quite difficult. But in a lot of ways that reminds me of Sonic. Right. The slow parts of Sonic. But I would rather play this than Sonic.
19:07 --> 19:10 It reminds me of turtles on this stage.
19:10 --> 19:13 This is very Mega Man, Mega Man X looking to me.
19:13 --> 19:24 Yeah, yeah, I can see it. Yeah. In today's day when you have emulators, I mean, wolf, you're getting Mr. PI soon. This is, this is one that would. I'd go to and try because I'm.
19:24 --> 19:36 Going to have to. You know, speaking of, speaking of said controller, the Genesis copy controller here, I'm gonna have to try this one out.
19:39 --> 19:44 I don't know if I'm not mistaken, I think it's on the Genesis Mini.
19:45 --> 19:45 Yeah.
19:45 --> 19:46 I think it is.
19:46 --> 19:47 I think you're right. I think you're right.
19:47 --> 19:48 Yeah.
19:49 --> 20:03 But it's one I've not fired up. Well, maybe I have, but I remember trying this back then and I just could not get into it. This game, I think this is one that didn't click with me.
20:04 --> 20:05 It's angry. It's an angry game.
20:05 --> 20:06 Yeah, it.
20:08 --> 20:09 Was.
20:10 --> 20:17 You're not wrong. This was in the era of all the. Hey, we're all going to come up with mascot platformers. So you had, like, was it Oscar.
20:17 --> 20:20 Or whatever and then seven up. Seven up spot.
20:21 --> 20:28 Yeah, there was one that was, like, supposed to be a play on movies, and I think his name was Oscar. Like the. The award show.
20:29 --> 20:30 Oh, okay.
20:30 --> 20:32 There was Arrow, the acrobat.
20:32 --> 20:34 There was Arrow.
20:34 --> 20:46 And so I think this just kind of fell there for me, and I just never really got into it. Like, there's only so many mascot games you want to make time for. And.
20:49 --> 20:56 So it's also got. The control scheme can be a little bit challenging there. Kind of like rocking Cats, I think. I think. I think. You played rocking cats.
20:57 --> 20:58 Yeah, yeah, I love rocking cats.
20:58 --> 21:19 You have the punch glove. Okay. Well, this is similar in that you can use the head to kind of grapple onto ledges and pull yourself up. And that mechanic takes some getting used to. And there's certain stages where you kind of force to do it as you're trying to get through a scrolling stage. As it scrolls up, you have to head jump that. Those ones were more difficult than most. And I don't remember liking those stages, but they're a little bit tricky.
21:19 --> 21:23 This kind of looks like a precursor to Earthworm Jim.
21:25 --> 21:27 They were around the same time, weren't they, if I remember right?
21:27 --> 21:28 I think so, yeah.
21:28 --> 21:28 Yeah.
21:28 --> 21:32 Because you know the same thing, right? Like, solid graphics.
21:32 --> 21:44 Yeah, yeah. Well, it was going with the Battletoads thing too, where it was using the 3D spinning, like, in this level, you know, revolution kind of level. It's. It's hard. It is so freaking hard.
21:45 --> 21:54 You said this is like a go to, like, sometimes you spin this up kind of game. So is this kind of like my punch out to your genesis, like, game?
21:56 --> 22:13 Yeah, because for every core on the Mr. Because, you know, if I have five, ten minutes on break or something, I'll. I'll go the machine behind me and I'll. I'll spin up a core and I'll pick. I'll pick one or two games from each console that I like to play. And this is probably my go to for the Genesis. Right. Like, I'm with you. Like, for me, it's Mario on the original Nintendo, because I can beat that game in, like, five minutes. Know, easy.
22:13 --> 22:13 You.
22:14 --> 22:16 Yeah. Nobody has issues with Mario Brothers 1 on this podcast.
22:16 --> 22:17 You.
22:18 --> 22:45 I gotta say, I'm. I'm looking at Treasures lineup of games, and honestly, none of them have ever clicked with me. There's something about Treasure that just doesn't hit me. I've. To be fair, I've never tried Light Crusader. I was surprised to see that they made Radiant Silver Gun and Ikaruga, because I know those are like, hugely beloved schmups.
22:47 --> 22:48 No Shade. If it's too hard, I get it.
22:48 --> 22:52 I'm not gonna have to. I did not like Mischief Makers.
22:52 --> 22:53 Really? Okay.
22:53 --> 22:55 Yeah, yeah.
22:55 --> 23:12 Light Crusader. Actually, I talked about Light Crusader on one of our earlier episodes as a really fun rpg. That's definitely not what I expected from Treasure, but it's also really solid. Mischief Makers is the one where if people found, like, was it. Alien Soldier was really, really hard. And Gun Gun Star Heroes, I think, was that.
23:12 --> 23:12 Yeah. Good start.
23:12 --> 23:14 I know that.
23:14 --> 23:20 Yeah. Those ones. I could never get anywhere in those ones. But Dynamite Heady was. And Mischief. Mischief Makers are ones. I got it.
23:21 --> 23:23 They did Played a lot of Mystery.
23:23 --> 23:27 Makers, I guess I see that now. I can see that. They did Alien Soldier now. Okay.
23:28 --> 23:29 Yeah, they did Alien Soldier.
23:29 --> 23:32 That game is tough, but it's fun. But man, is it tough.
23:33 --> 23:39 Yeah. All right. They make good stuff. So anyway, Dynamite Head is my runner up. It's definitely a game that people should check out.
23:39 --> 23:40 That's a good pick.
23:40 --> 23:43 I like to say this. This looks like a game I need to try out for sure.
23:43 --> 23:44 Yeah.
23:44 --> 23:47 And then immediately throw your controller against the wall and play something else.
23:47 --> 23:54 Yes. Thankfully, it's wireless. It's wireless, so it can go a long way.
23:54 --> 23:55 It'll go a lot further.
23:55 --> 23:56 Yeah.
23:57 --> 23:57 Down the hall.
23:59 --> 24:09 Excellent. That. That looks like a cool game, honestly. And I'm glad that we had a Genesis pick. Thank you for that, Jake. All right, Mr. Werewolf.
24:11 --> 24:19 I am gonna bring the good Mega man game from 94. We're going Mega Man X2 here as my runner up.
24:19 --> 24:21 Nice. X2 is a good one.
24:22 --> 24:23 High quality.
24:23 --> 24:24 That's a good one.
24:26 --> 25:21 I absolutely fell in love with Mega Man X1. And I mean, partly because Zero was an awesome character at the time. The fact that Mega man had so much story and dialogue in it was huge. So when Mega Man X2 comes along and you start hearing murmurs of zero return somehow, and then you play the game and you see it for yourself. And you're seeing these characters, like, there's Serges who looks like a robot. Dr. Wily. You start trying to make these connections to the original game. This one was faster paced than X1, in my mind. And some of the boss fights were like. Because it gave more big arenas than the first game had for boss fights. I think the first game, the only really big arena was Storm Eagle, and I think this one had a couple of them.
25:22 --> 25:22 Yeah.
25:23 --> 25:53 And then this one also played with the arenas more. Like in the Gator one, you're like, if you fall in the mud, you're slowed down. You want to stay up on the walls as much as possible. Stay out of the mud. The. The desert has the storm blowing you around while Overdrive Ostrich is zooming past. He ducks into the background and telegraphs his move there. And you got to avoid it and then avoid him dashing at you. It's. I love this game.
25:53 --> 25:54 This is a good game.
25:56 --> 25:57 The music is badass.
25:58 --> 25:58 Yeah.
25:58 --> 26:07 And, you know, it just feels fast. Like, to me, Mega man has never been quite so run and gun as Mega Man X2.
26:08 --> 26:09 That's fair.
26:10 --> 26:40 So I'm gonna throw this out there because. Because the video that we're watching is a press B original. Yeah, it's gp and he did this. I think this is the one that he did for me because every time, every birthday that I do, or every birthday I have, I guess every rotation around the sun, GP does a video for me for my birthday. And it's. It's games that I will never, ever, ever be able to, like, master. Like our game Whisperer. Gp.
26:41 --> 26:41 Yeah.
26:41 --> 26:52 GP is really clearly can speak into any game. And as you. If you're watching this on YouTube, come follow us on YouTube. Yeah, he's just. He's just walking through this game like.
26:52 --> 26:57 He'S showing me how to beat Mega Man. I think he did 1, 2, and 3 or something as part of this.
26:57 --> 27:00 Yeah, you asked for all three the one year, and he did all three.
27:00 --> 27:01 Yeah. And they're all.
27:01 --> 27:03 They're all on our channel. It's really great.
27:03 --> 27:08 And it takes him like, I don't know, 15 minutes for each or something. It's something ridiculous.
27:09 --> 27:09 Yeah.
27:09 --> 27:30 And he, of course, explains it the whole time. So that. And he gives me a little grief while he's going, but, yeah, no, X2. I will live this game vicariously. And I love this game vicariously. I have watched multiple streamers play this. I think I watched you play this. Chard.
27:31 --> 27:33 Yeah, I have streamed. Yep.
27:33 --> 27:43 I streamed and I've watched. I watched GP play it and GP did the videos, etc. And I love this game. I will never be good at this game, but I love this game.
27:45 --> 27:47 Yeah, I wish I like his games.
27:48 --> 28:47 I don't. I. You know what it is? It's something about having to do the charge shots versus the pellet shots to get through some bosses. I did a gaming contest about a year and a half ago on Big John's channel and it was random. You picked from a. A board of challenges that he had prepared and one of them was freaking Mega Man X. I think the first one and. But the whole. The whole series plays the same to me and it's just. I struggle on. The very first boss is Chill Penguin and just could not beat that boss for the life of me. And it was just so frustrating. Like, the game looks amazing, it sound. The soundtrack is amazing, but it's just like it's the only game I know where people automatically go into the menu to change the controls so they fucking dash faster with the shoulder buttons. Like, it just. It's so. It's such a weird thing, but I know people love this franchise. I think a lot of people like the X series more than the classic Mega Mans, probably. Which is which, you know, I can't argue with, but it's not. Definitely not my favorite.
28:49 --> 28:51 I just feel like they're slightly different. Beasts.
28:52 --> 28:52 Yes.
28:52 --> 28:52 Yeah.
28:52 --> 29:00 Yeah. I. It's funny that you're like the X Games all feel the same. I feel like they're way more different from each other than the Mega man series.
29:00 --> 29:01 Yeah.
29:01 --> 29:05 Like once you get past Mega Man X3, they start to feel wildly different from one another.
29:06 --> 29:06 Yes.
29:06 --> 29:09 From entry, are there eight.
29:09 --> 29:12 Seven of these? There's eight X games. Okay. All right.
29:12 --> 29:19 I think PlayStation 2 was the last one to get a. An X game. I think, I think it could have been.
29:19 --> 29:19 Yeah.
29:19 --> 29:20 I think it was eight.
29:20 --> 29:23 Yeah, yeah. It was PS2, GameCube, Xbox.
29:23 --> 29:24 Look at me know my.
29:25 --> 29:26 There you go.
29:27 --> 29:30 I am certainly not a pretty face on a podcast, but this is, this.
29:30 --> 29:32 Is a banger of a pick. I mean.
29:32 --> 29:33 Yeah.
29:33 --> 29:48 How can you pick. How can you pick at least a runner up if not a game of the year and not pick a Mega man if it comes. If it comes out. Now I'm saying that in the era of like up through, like, I don't know, the late 90s, yeah. Mega man lost its way for a while.
29:49 --> 30:45 Yeah. I think anything Beyond Mega Man X3/4, we get a little bit into the weeds With. With the X series, per my personal opinion. That's my personal opinion. But 21 and 2 and 3 are freaking awesome from start to finish. And. And Wolf is. Is very much right. I. I love twos that there's almost like some secret bosses that are in there that you can go by and. And not finish the game. They. They may be in a place. They may not be in a place. There's like, locations on the map that you can go and discover where they're at and fight. Fight. The extra bosses that are running around the. I forget, like, the three maverick pirates or something that you can go and hunt down, which I think is pretty damn cool. You got the creature bosses, the mavericks that are, you know, the animals are cool. The crocodiles, the centipedes, the moth. Even the moth has. Has some cool concepts to it. The boss fight for the moth is really neat where it's. Yeah.
30:45 --> 30:46 Because it's got two faces.
30:47 --> 30:54 Yeah, it's got. It's my. My entrance into Soulsborne all started with Mega Man X. Because then I was like, wait, there's another phase of this.
30:54 --> 30:58 Wait, wait, so you're saying that there's a whole bunch of lore on their weapons?
30:59 --> 31:04 There is actually a whole bunch of lore in everybody's weapons. That's. That's actually probably a true statement.
31:04 --> 31:15 But Mega man fans are deep into the lore of this series, though. People really get into Mega Man's backstory and lore. I don't even know what the hell Maverick is, but I know people get right into this. Like, fan comics are a huge thing for Mega Man.
31:15 --> 31:43 I can tell you, if you want to get into the. A little bit into the weeds. A maverick, Technically, it is a robo, a reploid, specifically, that has been infected with a virus that was originally called the Sigma virus, was later to be discovered to be the Zero virus, ultimately created by Dr. Wily and implanted in Zero to infect all future reploids. Because he hated Dr. Light that much.
31:44 --> 31:45 Okay, what's a reploid?
31:46 --> 31:48 Mega Man X Zero all the way.
31:48 --> 31:49 The robots, the cyborg.
31:49 --> 31:54 Okay, are there humans in this world still in. In the X series? Or is it all reploids?
31:55 --> 32:00 Okay, humans, they're just reploids Interact and.
32:00 --> 32:03 Have conversations with Dr. Kane a numerous. Like, a number of times.
32:03 --> 32:09 So, okay, this is like a freezing situation where I don't know what reploids are. In Canada, we call them something different.
32:10 --> 32:11 Freezies.
32:13 --> 32:14 Freeze, bloids.
32:14 --> 32:20 If I remember correctly, was it X2 that had the Wayne's World reference?
32:21 --> 32:22 It might have.
32:24 --> 32:31 You find the secret upgrade capsule from Doctor Light. And I think he says, I am not worthy. I am not worthy.
32:31 --> 32:36 Oh, nice. Okay, I know, I know that in one of them, there's a super uppercut, right?
32:37 --> 32:38 Yes. That's in two.
32:38 --> 32:39 Fireball on the other one.
32:39 --> 32:44 Fireball first one. And the. And the. The hurricane kick, I believe is in three. I think I. I think it is.
32:44 --> 32:45 That's funny.
32:45 --> 33:20 They brought all that stuff and I. I like how they kept that. I guess that meme alive in the time where, you know, you're still getting the high highuken and the hadouken and all this stuff. I. The thing that I really liked about X was the armor upgrades and the blaster upgrades and finding the cool upgrades to your costume and make you look cooler and make you look a little bit different. I thought that was kind of neat. And. And that runs throughout the entire X series. So I think that was cool addition. You're like, whoa, I can make Mega man cooler than he already is. Sign me up, bro. You know, big fan.
33:21 --> 33:21 Nice.
33:22 --> 33:23 Yeah.
33:23 --> 33:23 Cool.
33:24 --> 33:31 Fantastic pick. Fantastic pick. I'm not trying to move us along, although I'm kind of a little bit trying to move us along. Anything else?
33:31 --> 33:32 Call out.
33:33 --> 33:39 I do want to mention that that had the CX4 chip, which is what it allowed it to do the 3D wireframe characters.
33:39 --> 33:40 Okay.
33:40 --> 33:40 Okay.
33:41 --> 33:50 You have that big sword thing that was flinging around. That was 3D wireframe. The final boss makes use of it pretty well. The opening sequence does it with the.
33:50 --> 33:55 Internet outline and Mega man versus the WI Fi.
33:55 --> 33:58 So much like Star Fox, they included the chip on the cart.
33:59 --> 34:00 Yes.
34:00 --> 34:07 Okay. Very cool. Okay. That's an interesting call out. Nice.
34:08 --> 34:08 Right?
34:08 --> 34:46 Okay, well, I guess I'm up for runner up. My runner up has been playing up behind me the entire time. So being a DOS slash PC kid, and I know that this was released, I believe the same year on the snes, but Blizzard released a banger of a game called, hey, funny enough, Blackthorn. It'll come up here in just a sec. What's interesting about this is I had no idea who Blizzard was, and I played this game. I finally knew who Blizzard was during Warcraft and Starcraft era.
34:46 --> 34:47 Yeah.
34:48 --> 34:57 And then I went back and then I went back and saw Blackthorne in their arcade. I'm like, what the. That was a Blizzard game? Yeah, apparently it was a Blizzard game.
34:57 --> 35:01 I did not know that until you said something about it. Honestly, I was not aware of that either.
35:02 --> 36:27 So this game is, funny enough, it actually the planning from it came basically kind of they looked at another world and they were like, that's really cool. And so we've talked about another world before. It's kind of that side scrolling anime like Rotoscoping, which of course stems off of Karateka and that era and Prince of Persia. But basically this introduces. It is a platformer in parts. There are parts you have to run and jump, there are parts you have to etc. But really it's more of a puzzle platformer which we probably need to do a ranking on at some point. Puzzle platformers, that's actually a good one. Yeah, yeah. But what's cool is you have the ability to kind of slink into the background so that like when the enemies are shooting you, they can't shoot you. And then you can pop forward, you can shoot them, you can fire blindly behind you. I mean this really kind of had some very cool early kind of that rotoscoping animated another world kind of aspect to it. And it's, it's just, it's just a great puzzle platformer. Yeah, you earn keys, you earn bombs, you earn upgrades. It's just, I mean what shoots.
36:27 --> 36:28 Shoot Goblins.
36:28 --> 36:30 Yeah, you shoot Goblins.
36:30 --> 36:34 What version was this for the people watching the YouTube video was this Sega CD.
36:35 --> 36:36 This was the Ms. DOS version.
36:37 --> 36:38 Oh, okay, great.
36:38 --> 36:38 Yeah.
36:38 --> 36:40 Because this is on a few different platforms, right?
36:40 --> 37:26 Yeah, I mean it came out in 1994. It came out, I believe on the DOS version and then it also came out on the Super Nintendo version. I think all of the other ports were afterwards and I think there was a 3D port that was demoed, but I don't think it was ever released. And there's, there's kind of, if you look at the lore, there's no understanding why it wasn't released. So probably an interesting topic. Thack, if you're listening for the 3Do experience to talk about member of the, of the, the. The. The podcast network we're a part of the Super Pod network that we're part of anyway. Yeah. So I mean just a great puzzle platformer akin to Prince of Persia and another world.
37:27 --> 37:32 How long is this one? Is it the same as like another flashback is like six, seven stages.
37:32 --> 37:56 Seven stages. And I mean honestly I think after a few playthroughs you probably, I don't know what the. Somebody's going to go look up the, you know the time run on these. But I would expect an hour ish. If you've played it before and you can make it through but of course, your first exploration is going to be hours and hours, right?
37:56 --> 37:56 Oh, yeah.
37:56 --> 37:57 Right.
37:57 --> 37:57 Yeah.
37:57 --> 37:57 Yeah.
37:58 --> 39:36 So I never played Blackthorn, but I. I. Jake and I gushed about another world on a previous episode together. We. We absolutely adore that game. And. And I played Flashback a lot more than. Than Blackthorn. I didn't know Blackthorne was even in the talking until after I met Cinestar, to be honest with you. It was one of those games that you see the COVID of and you're like, oh, it's that one. But I never in my life thought that it was something as similar to. To Flashback. And Flashback, though, a great game, frustrates the ever living hell out of me, really. And this looks just like. It's just. It's a different style. It's something that my brain at the time, as a child never really understood. I never got past the jungle level in that one, which is the first stage, I believe, because there was a lot of. It's a. It's a puzzle, but it doesn't. It doesn't feel like a puzzle when you're playing it. It feels like you're supposed to run around and gunning. You got your unlimited pistols, so you're just blowing the. Out of anything you see, but then you get stuck because you got to unlock a door or go find a platform that moves or get bombs to open up something. And when I was a child, I didn't put two and two together. There was some puzzles that needed to happen with this playing it out as an adult, I got better and I had more patience, and I need to give this one a try. I think I played it on the Steam deck once or twice after you talked about it, because you've mentioned it more than once on this podcast. And it's just so much like Flashback that it's so funny to me. I mean, this is. I don't know which one was before or after, but to me, it will always be after Flashback, because that's the first one I played, so I think it was afterwards.
39:37 --> 39:37 Okay.
39:38 --> 39:41 Flashback, I thought was 92. 93ish.
39:41 --> 39:42 Probably.
39:42 --> 39:43 Yeah, it was 92.
39:43 --> 39:44 Okay.
39:44 --> 39:44 That's what I thought.
39:45 --> 39:46 Wow.
39:46 --> 39:46 Yeah.
39:46 --> 39:51 I think by the time this came out, they were already neck deep in the development of the sequel. That was no good.
39:52 --> 39:53 Right? Right.
39:53 --> 39:53 So.
39:54 --> 39:54 Wow.
39:54 --> 39:55 Yeah.
39:55 --> 39:57 I actually feel like I know what I'm talking about today.
39:57 --> 40:20 Holy Blackthorn to be. Cause I had played Prince of Persia, I had played out of this world. So it felt like those with some heavy metal Funk rubbed on. And by that I mean the heavy metal animated film that I probably was too young to be aware of, but my uncle was a geek and would love to show me shit that I shouldn't have seen. So.
40:21 --> 40:40 Yeah, no, I remember feeling. Cause in 94, as I alluded to the beginning of this episode, I graduated from high school. I remember playing this in 94 and thinking to myself, this is gritty on a scale that games aren't.
40:40 --> 40:41 Yeah.
40:41 --> 41:17 You know you have, you have the. Like here in a second. I'm watching the footage here in a second. This, this, this ogre is going to shoot and I'm going to dodge and he's going to end up killing one of the slaves in the game, right. And like you see that happen and you're like, damn it, I wanted to save that person. Right. And you watch and sometimes they're chained up and like one arm will be hanging and they'll be bloodied. And I'm like, I looked at this in 94 and I'm like, this is not, this is not this. I was playing Leisure Sue Larry and King's quest. Right.
41:19 --> 41:21 And like game.
41:21 --> 41:28 Well, sure, but a very different non child game. I'm looking at this going, holy shit, this is brutal.
41:29 --> 41:32 Yeah. Blackthorn's part will be played by Jack Black.
41:33 --> 41:33 Yes.
41:33 --> 41:36 Upcoming movie Jack Blackthorn.
41:36 --> 41:51 I'm looking at the design of the troll creature. It looks straight out of World of Warcraft. The troll design with the tusks and everything. I wonder. Blizzard pulled some of the ideas for there. Yeah, it's definitely Blizzard. It's another one where I'm surprised they didn't do a sequel of this one. I think it did okay reception wise. I thought it did all right.
41:51 --> 41:52 Yeah.
41:52 --> 41:54 But. Oh yeah, this is a theme that's different for them.
41:54 --> 41:57 It got, it got good reviews. So.
41:57 --> 41:58 Yeah.
41:59 --> 42:09 Yeah. The character, the main character's name is Kyle and he's named. What did they, where did they pick his name from? It's inspired by Kyle Reese from the Terminator.
42:10 --> 42:12 Ah, okay. Okay.
42:12 --> 42:12 Yeah.
42:12 --> 42:15 So you know the whole shotgun, like.
42:15 --> 42:16 Yeah, yeah.
42:18 --> 42:18 Yeah.
42:18 --> 42:39 Interesting. This is a good pick. This, this is one I've. I've only played a little bit of this one. When we were doing. We. When we're doing our Press B Top 100, I went to try a little bit of this. I'm terrible at it. But it, I definitely like the graphics. The style is really cool. It is definitely flashback coded. And like you're not wrong, Charlie. When you try and play flashback, you're like, oh, it's a run and gun. It's totally not, though.
42:39 --> 42:39 It's.
42:39 --> 42:50 No, because you get stuck in the animations when you're. When you roll, you. You're committed to that role. And if it takes you off the ledge because you misjudge the hitboxes, you're going off the ledge and you're reloading. This is similar.
42:50 --> 42:52 So it's an Elden ring or it's a. From Song.
42:52 --> 43:06 It's an Elden ring. Yeah. But I like the combat in this better than flashback for sure. Because like you said, Zar, you can dodge into the background and yeah, the shotgun is just cooler than whatever handgun the dude in flashback has. So stuff in this.
43:06 --> 43:21 And you do get upgrades as you go. The SNES port, when we talked about this before, I did try the SNES port if you want to try this. Not on dos. The SNES port is a legit good port.
43:21 --> 43:21 Oh, good.
43:22 --> 43:26 Is it censored at all? I feel like it has to be for Nintendo.
43:26 --> 43:27 I think so, but.
43:27 --> 43:29 And when you shoot them, they sweat.
43:30 --> 43:33 Yeah, yeah. It's green goo that comes out.
43:33 --> 43:34 There you go.
43:34 --> 43:37 They're not slaves after all. They're just mimic aliens.
43:37 --> 43:40 They're indentured servants. They're indentured.
43:40 --> 43:47 I do feel like Blackthorn minimum wage workers between Flashback and Abe's Odyssey mechanically.
43:47 --> 43:48 Yes, I could see that.
43:48 --> 43:49 Yeah, I can see that.
43:49 --> 43:54 It's just Abe took a lot of the ideas from Blackthorn and threw comedy on them. Right, right.
43:54 --> 43:57 Yes. Yeah. Once again, slaves.
43:58 --> 43:58 Yeah.
44:00 --> 44:02 Today's topic plus comedy.
44:03 --> 44:06 Those are great for YouTube. YouTube loves when you talk about slavery.
44:07 --> 44:08 Today's topic.
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44:09 --> 44:30 Yeah. Yes. No, it's. It's. The SNES port is a good port. Trust. I mean, I would play it on dos myself and I probably will, especially since I've got. Hey, get your bingo cards. I have a background to point to again, folks, since I have it on original hardware here, but yeah.
44:32 --> 44:33 Okay.
44:33 --> 44:35 Sinister going retro with his over the shoulder there.
44:38 --> 44:47 Why don't we, instead of doing the reverse, why don't we go back around and shard, why don't you start with your game of the year?
44:48 --> 44:57 Well, yeah, this is why I wanted to go last because this is easily probably the best game in 1994. No, it's fine. That's fine.
44:57 --> 44:58 Shall we reverse it?
44:58 --> 45:01 Yeah, if he's gonna go and he's gonna take.
45:01 --> 45:09 Well, no, I can go because I argue that my game of the year puts up a fight with your game of the Year.
45:09 --> 45:14 It'll put up a fight, but I lose and get a little bloody. But it ain't gonna win.
45:14 --> 45:17 All right, fine. I'm hosting. I'm hosting.
45:17 --> 45:17 Let's look.
45:17 --> 45:31 I'm going. Okay. My game of the year Sinistars game of the year for 1994 is a little known game that nobody's ever heard of called Doom 2.
45:32 --> 45:40 Doom 2. I was just playing that on on my Samsung earbuds before I started the episode.
45:40 --> 45:41 Yeah.
45:42 --> 45:44 So there's a run button in this one.
45:44 --> 45:50 Sinistar traveled game out there to be played on literally anything.
45:50 --> 45:55 We'll get to that. We'll get to the run button. We'll get to the run button. Okay, wait, wait.
45:55 --> 45:58 This wasn't on pregnancy test, right? That's the original only.
45:58 --> 45:59 What's that?
45:59 --> 46:00 The original? I thought it was Doom 2.
46:00 --> 46:04 This wasn't. Yeah, the original was on pregnancy test. Doom 2 doesn't afford to anything.
46:04 --> 46:05 I thought you were gonna play Doom 2016.
46:06 --> 46:55 So you're bringing up a point that I was going to talk about. First off, Doom 2 didn't really have any sort of spectacular change as far as like, you know, graphics, etc. The reason why is because they basically with the difference in the. The hardware that was out in the wild, they could expand the maps. So that's really the difference is, is they went to larger maps, a little bit more open world so that you can struggle around and try to find your way. Which makes a point. This video that's playing is me playing it and you're going to see me just run around and try to like we're already lost. Find where the hell to go in the second level. And it turns out, I don't know if people know this. First person shooters have a run button.
46:55 --> 46:56 Button. Yes, they do.
46:56 --> 46:58 And it shift.
46:58 --> 47:00 Yeah. Yes.
47:02 --> 47:13 To be fair, I wouldn't have known that either because I don't expect that kind of feature in a game this old. Like it's like looking up. Can you look up in this one? I don't think you can. Right? No, no, no.
47:13 --> 47:20 And in fact it's funny because the planes, Doom 1 and Doom 2 have this whole thing where they have visually different planes.
47:20 --> 47:21 Yeah.
47:21 --> 47:27 But as far as firing your weapon, you just aim wherever it is and it shoots. Yeah.
47:27 --> 47:29 It finds it. It's a heat seeking bullet.
47:29 --> 47:32 Yeah. So shoot a lot of bullets.
47:32 --> 47:33 Not smart topography.
47:33 --> 47:40 As long as you have X and Y axis or sorry, X axis correct Y access the game worries about.
47:41 --> 47:45 So don't worry, we'll correct it. It's fine.
47:45 --> 48:16 No, once again, I mean this is just. I mean there are some new enemies, there are larger levels, there's. The levels are designed kind of a little more open. But I mean this is Doom. This is Doom. I mean this is a. This is a game. I know that Wolfenstein 3D probably really started the genre, but I argue Doom really started the genre. Right.
48:17 --> 48:27 It may have not have started it, but it solidified itself as like the king of the genre and it added. We're still getting do games to today.
48:27 --> 48:28 Yeah.
48:28 --> 48:31 Later on. And where are you Wolfenstein not doing that.
48:31 --> 48:34 They had some in through the 2000 but not.
48:34 --> 48:36 They're not Doom. They're not doomed.
48:36 --> 48:43 There was multi in this one. Was it any good? Because I keep. When I think of multiplayer early FPS, I think of Quake. I don't really think of Doom there.
48:43 --> 49:28 I played the hell out of this game multiplayer me and my buddy. Did you like the. The arena shooter aspect? This really led to Quake. The arena shooter aspect. There are levels like there are levels where it's a circle so that you're. You're taking on a boss. Oh, that was perfect for arena shooter multiplayer. Right. I mean so yeah, this had, this had both. This had both dial up two player and it had LAN multiplayer. It was, it was epically good. I can't tell you how many. I guarantee my hours playing this multiplayer are like multiple orders of magnitude larger than me playing the single player.
49:29 --> 49:29 Yep.
49:30 --> 49:30 Okay.
49:30 --> 50:37 Yep. I have a fun story about Doom 2. This was the first, first person shooter that I managed to get on my Windows 95 compact presario combination DVD and floppy 8 inch floppy disk drive. My dad installed it for me at a young age and saw me playing it went. Might not have been the best decision to put that on there for you son. And I said probably not. But I'm going to go play with my friend growing up and we're going to kill each other for the next couple of hours. And that's, that's basically what we did. We played. I played Doom 2 with my, my childhood friend ad nauseam for forever and ever was this and Duke Nukem 3D. We played all the time. But obviously this was, this was the start. I think I played more Doom 2 than I played the original Doom and then went back and played more Doom after Doom two really solidified, you know, the first person genre, the arena shooting genre. So Doom two is an excellent pick. Yes, it will put up a fight and it will make things bloody as Doom typically does, but it's not going to win.
50:37 --> 50:49 Arguably. I. I think really Game of the year on PC for sure. I don't think this. I don't think this has competition as far as comparing to what's coming.
50:49 --> 50:50 I agree.
50:50 --> 50:51 It's a fight. It's a fight.
50:51 --> 50:53 Yeah, agreed, Agreed.
50:53 --> 51:18 This is like one of the games that defined what PC gaming could be. Right. PC gaming wasn't just simulations. It's not just SimCity or Civ or whatever. It's fast paced, really graphically impressive, like 3D graphics. This definitely set a standard for PC gaming. Like, if you had a console, like you had a SNES or you had a Genesis, they couldn't do something like this. I know we have a. I know we have a SNES version of Doom, but it doesn't look nearly as good as the PC version. Not even close.
51:18 --> 51:22 Don't call that bastardized version Doom just because it's on the title.
51:22 --> 51:24 That's just fine.
51:24 --> 51:30 But yeah, that's like Carmageddon on the N64. That is a bad game.
51:31 --> 51:33 This is. Doom is. Doom is a.
51:34 --> 51:43 It says something that we actually got ports of Doom and hexen on the N64. I know they're a little bit different, but the fact that they got ports is telling.
51:43 --> 51:44 Yep. Yeah, absolutely.
51:44 --> 52:07 Yeah. Once again, Carmack and Romero are pushing the PC genre. Right. Like they took Commander Keen or Jazz Jackrabbit and figured out how to make side scrollers on PC. Once again, Carmack and Romero are like, what's next? And they made Doom and Doom 2. Right.
52:07 --> 52:08 Hella jump.
52:08 --> 52:09 Yeah, yeah, right.
52:10 --> 52:12 Commander Keane to Doom. Right?
52:12 --> 52:12 Yeah.
52:13 --> 52:19 Talk about having Cheerios instead of eggs and bacon in the morning. And they just change their streets too. Definitely.
52:19 --> 52:20 On what?
52:20 --> 52:21 It depends on what you had that morning.
52:22 --> 52:32 Yeah. Anyway, my game of the year, 1994. Doom A2. All right. Right, Wolf.
52:33 --> 52:34 There he is.
52:34 --> 52:42 All right, so my game of the year, based on the selections that we've made, I went with Sonic 3.
52:43 --> 52:43 Yes.
52:45 --> 53:19 Sonic the Hedgehog 3 was a really cool game at the time. It was the bonus of the fact that my dad had pre ordered it for me, so I also got the Sonic CD soundtrack with it, which was a weird package. But yeah, Sonic 3. I know this game still quite well to the point where Jake was once trying to toy with the idea of doing a trivia episode for us. And it was just this super pixelated. It was like what, 24 by 18?
53:19 --> 53:22 Or not even that, dude. Like it was like 8 by 8.
53:22 --> 53:30 And you're like Sonic 3 and I'm like, why are we looking at a really pixelated marble garden from Sonic 3? And he is like, fuck it.
53:30 --> 53:35 Really? Yeah. Knew it instantly.
53:36 --> 53:47 I have spent so much time playing Sonic 3, it's ridiculous. This was the one that introduced saving to the game.
53:47 --> 53:49 Oh, yep.
53:49 --> 54:02 Because entries before this you couldn't save. It didn't have passwords or anything. This one you like in a new zone, it would save your progress so you could stop. Did they come back and play later?
54:03 --> 54:07 Did they use a battery or was it like non volatile?
54:07 --> 54:08 No, it was battery back then.
54:08 --> 54:09 I think it was a battery.
54:09 --> 54:10 Okay.
54:10 --> 54:10 Yeah.
54:10 --> 54:19 But this introduced, you know, saving your progress to the Sonic franchise. And then Sonic and Knuckles later would use the same battery for its file saving.
54:20 --> 54:22 Nice, Jay.
54:22 --> 54:26 Stackable game, Jake. Yeah, I do.
54:26 --> 54:33 I love Knuckles. You know, I'll take Knuckles over Tails any freaking day of the week. His Tails is stone cold murderer. Who does not just about.
54:35 --> 54:40 Sonic 3 was also the one that let you would. That would let you play as Tails by himself for the first time.
54:41 --> 54:44 When he's solo. He can't kill anybody. So what's the point? Right? That's.
54:45 --> 54:45 Wow.
54:47 --> 54:49 We all know what victims is not the same thing.
54:50 --> 54:54 It changed up the gameplay dramatically because Sonic can only run.
54:54 --> 54:55 Wow.
54:55 --> 54:58 He goes fast, but he can only run. Tails can fly about.
54:58 --> 55:06 Did you let you get a new advantage? I was gonna say Tails is Jeffrey Dahmer is to cannibalism. Thanks, Jake.
55:07 --> 55:10 That's how awful Tails is as a sidekick.
55:10 --> 55:12 Hot take, folks. Hot take.
55:12 --> 55:15 He's not that bad. But okay, this.
55:15 --> 55:20 This also had the iconic snowboard scene music.
55:20 --> 55:21 And that is so good.
55:22 --> 55:22 Oh, yeah, yeah.
55:22 --> 55:26 That's. I mean, that's a song that everybody remembers from Sonic 3, right?
55:27 --> 55:28 Yeah.
55:28 --> 55:30 And then a couple years ago.
55:31 --> 55:31 God, this is.
55:31 --> 55:33 It was revealed to be another song entirely.
55:34 --> 55:34 Yeah.
55:34 --> 55:35 Yeah.
55:35 --> 55:35 Right.
55:35 --> 55:38 And I love that song. That's on my playlist.
55:39 --> 55:39 Nice.
55:40 --> 55:46 This is such a good game. Does it have eating this game up?
55:46 --> 55:47 Does it have farty bass?
55:48 --> 55:48 It does.
55:48 --> 55:50 Well, yeah. I mean, it's a second game.
55:50 --> 55:52 It is a genesis. Yeah.
55:52 --> 55:53 What do you expect?
55:53 --> 56:01 Yeah, this. This is the one that was like the soundtrack was done by what, Brad Buckser and Michael Jackson. But Michael Jackson's name couldn't be on it. Allegations.
56:02 --> 56:02 Yep.
56:03 --> 56:09 But I mean, I mean, you could tell here like all the jam and. Yeah, stuff like that.
56:09 --> 56:18 You know, it's. It's so you're sitting there as a kid going set. This is a Michael Jackson song. This has to be a Michael Jackson. They're like no, it's not the credits.
56:21 --> 56:23 Version of a Michael Jackson song.
56:23 --> 56:47 Yep. It's so cool. It's so cool. This. This game was on repeat. I played this for hours. I'm like, I'm like, well if I. I got the Supersonic, I played this game over and over and over again. I'd save it, I'd go to school, I'd come back and I'd play it over and over and over and over again. Yeah, I. To this day this is one of my top Sonic games, if not the top Sonic game.
56:47 --> 56:50 I have never played this Sonic game.
56:50 --> 57:11 Really, when you combine this with Sonic and Knuckles because back in the day it was a lock on cartridge. They had a whole advertising campaign these days on retro emulation. You can, you can play a combined ROM and that's the way I would play it. To have one huge back to back epic Sonic game. To me this rivals Mario World as far as I'm concerned. It's so long. There's so many unique stages.
57:12 --> 57:12 Yep.
57:12 --> 57:42 Unique everything. And the bosses are really fun. There's. If you play as Knuckles, you can play as Knuckles through the whole game. Not just snuck and Knuckles, but also the second, the third game's levels and the path is different. It's similar, but there's different bosses and they are similar, but they are harder. So there's just a lot of game here and I really love that as a kid. This is. This is the Sonic game I like. I know a lot of people will say that Sonic 2 is the better game. I never agree with that. I always thought Sonic 3 was the best of the, of the 2D franchise.
57:42 --> 58:06 Yeah. I like the different pathing in this game. I love that Knuckles can go other places. And like you said, when you attach it with Sonic and Knuckles, you just have this epic story of Sonic 3 going to the Sonic and Knuckles games and it's. It's so much. It's worth every freaking penny that you put into buying both of these games. It was such a great idea because.
58:06 --> 58:12 What Sonic and Knuckles literally picks up like moments after Sonic 3 ends.
58:12 --> 58:13 Yep.
58:13 --> 58:25 Yeah. It. It tweaks the original ending of Sonic 3 to make it so it keeps continuing and it works fine. I think they might make the last stage a little bit easier in three just to make it carry through to the Mushroom Zone. But. But yeah, it's one big adventure. Really awesome.
58:27 --> 58:28 Good pick.
58:28 --> 58:33 Yeah. Very cool. Very cool. I'm learning games I need to try.
58:33 --> 58:37 Oh, Sonic 3 is definitely one of the top games that you should. You should give.
58:37 --> 58:47 Well, although a little spoiler. A little spoiler. I may be trying some games we've never tried. Next week. Just throwing that out there.
58:47 --> 58:48 Wow.
58:49 --> 58:54 Next Friday we're talking about something that's not necessarily so retro.
58:54 --> 58:59 Anyway on our podcast. Not talking about retro. That's.
58:59 --> 59:02 We are the most retro podcast.
59:02 --> 59:03 Never done that before.
59:06 --> 59:08 Most retro actually want to do a.
59:08 --> 59:09 Music episode or something.
59:10 --> 59:12 How about tabletop RPGs again?
59:16 --> 59:20 Might have one to talk about actually. But anyway, who's next?
59:20 --> 59:21 That would be you.
59:21 --> 59:22 Star Forge is pretty good.
59:22 --> 59:23 Yeah. Okay.
59:25 --> 59:25 Yeah, it's you.
59:27 --> 59:35 Okay, we'll pull up real quick. My game of the year, which is kind of weird now I think about it, is Kirby's Dream Course, which is mini golf. Don't you?
59:35 --> 59:36 Wow.
59:36 --> 59:38 Wait, you picked a Kirby game?
59:38 --> 59:39 I did not.
59:39 --> 59:42 Just a Kirby game. A Kirby golf game.
59:42 --> 59:44 A golf game. Yeah, it's great.
59:44 --> 59:48 Is there really that many games missing in 94?
59:49 --> 59:50 Since there's called out, I'm going to.
59:50 --> 01:00:01 Say that you guys did pick the ones I originally was going to pick. You could say that you guys, you know, pre stole my game so I had to scrape the bottom of the 94 barrel. But what a barrel it was.
01:00:01 --> 01:00:04 Fish in that barrel. Yeah, it really is.
01:00:04 --> 01:01:52 Yeah. This is one of them. This is a trout in that barrel. Kirby's Dream Course is one of the best games in the snes. And this is one of my go to games, the snes. This is when I spin up the Super Nintendo emulator. It's either this or Super Metroid. If I want like a quick hit, this is the one I play. This is a pretty decent mini golf game. It's got power ups. How many stages. I took notes. That's how special this fish is. Okay. 12 courses, eight stages each. And once you beat it, you unlock a special arranged mode with harder courses. What I didn't know because I didn't really have many friends at the time who want to sit and play golf with me. But there's dedicated multiplayer levels that are unique in this game. I didn't realize that, but it was originally a game called Special Tee Shot and I guess it didn't want to get released. So they rethemed it as a Kirby game and they made a golf game. But it's all the charm of a Kirby game. Right. With the characters and the enemies are all from the 2D game or here. The gameplay is just solid. It's a solid mini golf game. I'm not a huge golf fan, but I like Mini Putt and this is like mini putt with Kirby. And it's, it's a solid game. Music. Music is cute. There's a lot of stage variety and like, it's not just, you know, putting on a green. Right. You're on, you're on like different slopes and levels. You're sending the ball freaking flying across the stage. It's one where you can try and go for like low strokes. It's really interesting. There is power ups. Like I said. I don't know. It's, it's a pretty solid thing. A lot of the games from a lot of things here. If you had told me that it wasn't originally a Kirby game, I wouldn't have believed you. I had to go. Look, when I looked up that it was originally called something else, I was kind of floored because to me, this has always been a Kirby game. This is another one where I'm kind of surprised they haven't come back and done another one of these. Right. I'm not sure what's up with Nintendo sometimes. This is a solid, solid game.
01:01:52 --> 01:01:53 Was this snes?
01:01:54 --> 01:01:55 This was snes.
01:01:55 --> 01:01:55 Yes.
01:01:55 --> 01:01:55 Okay.
01:01:55 --> 01:01:56 Yes.
01:01:56 --> 01:01:56 Okay.
01:01:57 --> 01:01:57 Yeah.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:00 Well, it's a, it's a good one.
01:02:00 --> 01:02:11 I've not played this. And, and pardon, pardon my me making fun because that was not my intention. Well, I just thought I was waiting. Listen, Jake throws his curveballs all the time.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:11 Well.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:20 And he'll, he'll pop up a video of something and we'll be like, really? He's like, no, I'm actually picking Duke Nukem 3D or something. You know, something like that.
01:02:20 --> 01:02:25 But Jake liking your Kirby game is like the world has ended.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:28 You can put on Wiley wars now.
01:02:28 --> 01:02:32 Okay. But to be real, is this better? Are you entertained now?
01:02:34 --> 01:02:36 I love mini putt putt games and mini puppets.
01:02:38 --> 01:02:41 I'm gonna need some more water.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:57 But I, I, I, I, I've never played the, the Kirby Golf mini game, but I think, I think I would enjoy it because I actually do enjoy a lot of the, the mini golf simulators that they have out there. And it's, it's Kirby. I mean, you can't, in my opinion, you can't go wrong with Kirby. I think it's a cool, that's a cool concept.
01:02:57 --> 01:02:59 So it looks fun.
01:02:59 --> 01:03:00 Looks fun.
01:03:00 --> 01:03:03 It kind of looks like it plays a little bit ish. Like Marble Madness.
01:03:03 --> 01:03:07 No, I was thinking the same exact thing. And I think it just slopes and.
01:03:07 --> 01:03:09 Looks like it, but no. Yeah.
01:03:09 --> 01:03:12 Well, Marble Madness, you have to rotate the board right. To get the marble to go. Yeah.
01:03:12 --> 01:03:13 Yeah, yeah.
01:03:13 --> 01:03:13 Aiming.
01:03:13 --> 01:03:18 And it just looks like there's a little aspect of like control while it's going.
01:03:19 --> 01:03:30 You, I think you can jump here and there. You, you get some power ups that you can use while Kirby's in motion. But the putt is what directly controls his movement.
01:03:30 --> 01:03:31 Aside from that.
01:03:31 --> 01:03:32 Okay.
01:03:32 --> 01:03:35 I'm a fan of a good control. Right.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:36 Yeah, yeah.
01:03:36 --> 01:04:34 You can adjust what angle you hit on the ball or hit on Kirby's ass to send him flying. Like it's. But it's like the amount of control that's there, it doesn't feel, it doesn't feel clunky or out of place. It just feels pretty natural. Very fluid. Just an easy to pick up game. This is a game that I can play with my kids and they have no issues understanding it. I like how it includes the like a line guide. Like, you know, Puzzle Bauble has a guide for the first few shots, but this has it through the entire game. Makes things very accessible to get into. Still a very challenging game. Especially when you're trying to line up a shot where you have to take down all the enemies at once in one one shot. That's very challenging to do. Very rewarding though. And yeah, there's, there's, there's power ups to like you jump and turn tornadoes and crazy shit. But it's, it's a very polished fun. Just, just genuine fun game. So I mean it's no Sonic 3, it's Super Metroid, there's no Doom do, but I think it's better than Blackthorne.
01:04:34 --> 01:04:44 Wow. Jesus. We have to be. We honestly, I mean, here's the thing is like we very rarely talk about sports games. And I know this is barely a sports game.
01:04:46 --> 01:04:48 You know, it technically is a sports game. Yeah, it is.
01:04:48 --> 01:04:48 It is a sports.
01:04:48 --> 01:05:06 It is. I, I kind of, I kind of love that A Game of the Year from someone is a, you know, quote unquote sports title. I love it because we like. Is NBA Jam a fucking gem of a game. You're goddamn right it is. But I'm never going to throw it on a list. Right.
01:05:07 --> 01:05:08 My game of the Year.
01:05:10 --> 01:05:11 That might have been 94.
01:05:12 --> 01:05:13 It might have been 94.
01:05:13 --> 01:05:19 NBA Jam is a gem of a game. Especially when you turn on Big head mode. I'm all in.
01:05:21 --> 01:05:24 Give me Chris. Chris Richmond and Mike Bibby.
01:05:24 --> 01:05:26 It was 93.
01:05:27 --> 01:05:28 I wasn't 93.
01:05:28 --> 01:05:40 All right, well, either way, we obviously sometimes struggle to talk about sports or sports, sports sideways titles. Right.
01:05:40 --> 01:05:44 Because nobody wants to hear me talk about sports in this podcast so well.
01:05:44 --> 01:05:48 But we've talked, we talked TECMO Football or TECMO Super Bowl. Right?
01:05:48 --> 01:05:50 That's, Yeah, I mean, G.P. yes.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:58 I, I, I think we, we really probably. I mean, I'm never, I don't think any of us are ever going to throw a Madden game up as a game of the year ever.
01:06:00 --> 01:06:03 League football, however that might, that might come up.
01:06:03 --> 01:06:05 Well, they're like robot football league.
01:06:05 --> 01:06:07 Challenge accepted.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:11 You know. But no, I think that that is a challenge we should do.
01:06:12 --> 01:06:12 Yeah.
01:06:13 --> 01:06:24 Maybe we rank sports games or sports and sports like games. And I love, Jake, that you picked a sports akin game as a game of the year.
01:06:24 --> 01:06:28 Everybody knows that Jake is the. I'm not a figure.
01:06:28 --> 01:06:31 I love sports. This is, this is like hockey. It's great.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:37 I know I always give you grief. Circus Charlie aside, I think this is honestly beautiful that you did this.
01:06:38 --> 01:06:48 Well, I'll take it. But yeah, this is one to play. It really is. I mean, we're making, I'm making fun of it and on it, but it's, which is kind of what I do. But I actually do genuinely like this.
01:06:48 --> 01:06:54 I think it looks a bit, it looks fun as hell. I love the Mario podcast.
01:06:54 --> 01:06:58 Jake. You better have a Blue Jays hat on or I'm not gonna.
01:06:59 --> 01:07:01 I do have a few.
01:07:01 --> 01:07:02 I know you do.
01:07:05 --> 01:07:05 I'm gonna be honest.
01:07:05 --> 01:07:07 Mario Golf's fantastic.
01:07:07 --> 01:07:09 Sorry. Mario Golf.
01:07:09 --> 01:07:44 There you go, hotshots. Golf is one of my favorite, my favorite golf game. It's one of my favorite games on the psp and I was pretty hyped when they announced a new one. There's everybody's golf hot shots. Golf is coming out, I think later this year. Actually. I was pretty excited for that. So there, there are games that even though I'm not a fan of, like, you know, I'm not like, I don't. I know Tiger Wood by Woods by name, but I can't say ever watched a golf game with them. I know Mike Weir because he's Canadian, but I've never sat through an entire golf match on tv. But some of the golf games are actually pretty fun to play, so there might qualify as one one of these days.
01:07:44 --> 01:07:50 I'll probably show links on this, on this machine, this piece of hardware that's behind me. Links is fantastic.
01:07:50 --> 01:07:51 Links.
01:07:51 --> 01:08:14 Is that Tony? The Tony Hawk games are good. There are some fantastic, There are some fantastic snowboard games that we need to talk about. So. Jake, I'm not, I am literally not on you. I love the fact that you threw a putt. Putt golf game with like the madness of Kirby.
01:08:15 --> 01:08:26 Yeah. And it's Kirby all over the damn place. Like they re theme this so hard. If you look at the original and compared to this like they definitely ran with the whole the Kirby theming and it's pretty awesome.
01:08:27 --> 01:08:32 No, this is a great pick. I'm gonna go play this in the next day or two.
01:08:33 --> 01:08:37 I didn't realize everybody's golf was the same franchise as Hotshots Golf.
01:08:38 --> 01:08:51 Yes, I thought it was a dead franchise for years. So it looks pretty rad. So you know what? Maybe, maybe we'll just spin the off the podcast and to become, you know, golf only. That's what we'll do.
01:08:51 --> 01:08:54 Yeah, that's it. Well, golf and Madden. We've got to do Madden Golf.
01:08:57 --> 01:09:00 I played one two nights ago. I played a new one.
01:09:00 --> 01:09:11 I don't think I would ever. I would often pick a sports game as like one of my favorite games, but there are a few exceptions like NHL 94 blades of steel. I like hockey games apparently.
01:09:11 --> 01:09:13 Oh, Blades of Steel.
01:09:13 --> 01:09:14 Blades of Steel is a classic.
01:09:14 --> 01:09:14 Blades.
01:09:14 --> 01:09:18 Even just ice hockey on the NES is so fun.
01:09:21 --> 01:09:27 The first time I saw throwing gloves on Blades of Steel I was like, yeah, I'm in.
01:09:27 --> 01:09:29 Yeah, hockey's great.
01:09:30 --> 01:09:32 Yeah. Yep.
01:09:32 --> 01:09:50 But yeah, it's Kirby's dream course. Really good game. Very solid. Like Jake said, it's, it's accessible, it's fun, it's, it's pretty to look at and I think it actually has a modding community or at least it did when Romhax was still around. I don't know.
01:09:50 --> 01:09:51 I haven't looked at that.
01:09:53 --> 01:10:03 I know I saw the game Grumps play through the two player mode of it and then that was such a huge success. Their fans put together another two player course for them to play.
01:10:04 --> 01:10:04 Oh, nice.
01:10:04 --> 01:10:05 That's awesome.
01:10:05 --> 01:10:06 Very cool.
01:10:06 --> 01:10:08 Also, I love A level editors.
01:10:08 --> 01:10:10 Also, how the are we not called Game Grumps?
01:10:11 --> 01:10:11 Yeah, right.
01:10:12 --> 01:10:15 They beat us to it by about, oh, I don't know, 14 years.
01:10:17 --> 01:10:20 Yeah, but I'm fucking 50. I'm almost 50. Jesus.
01:10:20 --> 01:10:21 We're just grumpy.
01:10:21 --> 01:10:28 We're way more grumpier than they are. They're obviously too high and happy over there. I like their show, their channel, but no, they're not grumpy.
01:10:28 --> 01:10:31 I'm not kidding. I signed up for AARP this year, guys.
01:10:31 --> 01:10:32 Wow.
01:10:35 --> 01:10:48 All right, all right. I'm going to seriously, I'm going to take every game off of this that I've never played and I'm going to play it Seriously, because this is so good. Jake, thank you for Dream Course. Dream course.
01:10:49 --> 01:10:49 Yes.
01:10:49 --> 01:10:50 Kirby's dream course.
01:10:50 --> 01:10:51 Okay.
01:10:51 --> 01:10:53 Yes. Rolls off the tongue.
01:10:53 --> 01:10:54 Yeah. All right.
01:10:54 --> 01:10:58 Like Mega man, the Wily Wars. Yes. Game that just. You can't stop thinking about.
01:10:59 --> 01:11:06 Yeah. Jake's third runner up for game of the Year. All right. Charred. All right.
01:11:06 --> 01:11:07 My.
01:11:08 --> 01:11:18 Hold on. We're getting to it, folks. You've been. You've been here, you've been hearing, you've been going, God damn, 1994. Where is it, Jake? Chart. Chart.
01:11:19 --> 01:11:39 My game of the year, hands down, the best game in the year 1994 is obviously Lee Corvo's putting challenge on Classic. I wanted to pick a sports.
01:11:39 --> 01:11:40 You want a good golf game.
01:11:41 --> 01:11:43 And that's our episode, folks. Thanks.
01:11:43 --> 01:12:48 That's it. You can't beat that. We don't even have video for that. That. No, obviously. Obviously. Everybody knows who I am. Drum roll, please. It is Final Fantasy 6. Final Fantasy 6 is the greatest game to come out of 1994, if not in most assign Final Fantasy 3 for the Super Nintendo here in the Americas. But of course, all in all, Final Fantasy 6 to everybody else later on in the years, what can you say? This game has the greatest cinematic opening to pretty much any Final Fantasy, if not game at this point. The music is still a absolute banger from start to finish. This game is so amazing. I. There's nothing else to say that hasn't already been said about Final Fantasy 6 that I haven't already said or Jake or Wolf or sinistar or. Or GP hasn't said about this game already. Final Fantasy 6 is just, bar none, the best game to come out of 1994, if not almost done. The Super Nintendo, if it weren't for a little time traveling game that we also love that came out a year later, if not two.
01:12:48 --> 01:12:55 Yeah. I mean, let's not forget in a. In a different year, I'm gonna. I'm gonna agree with you on a different game.
01:12:56 --> 01:13:25 Absolutely. But I mean, you start this thing up, you got the. You got the credits rolling in. The Final Fantasy 3 flashes across the screen. Then you've got the mechs walking in the snow and the epic theme song to Terror's Terrace theme walking towards Narsh, and you're just like, what is. I am ready. I am. My body is ready. My mind is ready. And it is just. It never gets bad. There's never a point where you're like.
01:13:26 --> 01:13:39 If you want to understand the value of Final Fantasy 6 Magic, the Gathering is doing a Final Fantasy Crossover right now. Right now. And Kefka is a legendary creature.
01:13:39 --> 01:13:40 Yep.
01:13:40 --> 01:13:51 In that game. Highly suplex the train card in that set actually too. You know how close I. I was to picking that set up there is it. There's so many Easter eggs in that magic set. I just wish it wasn't so damn expensive.
01:13:51 --> 01:13:54 I saw the price of hobby so bad.
01:13:54 --> 01:13:54 Like they. With magic.
01:13:54 --> 01:14:09 Yeah. I saw the tarot card and I haven't played magic since middle school. I haven't even touched a magic card since. Since middle school. So when I saw those I went, oh, I gotta look into that. And of course they're astronomically priced which they're gonna sell.
01:14:09 --> 01:14:13 And court mage Kafka. Court mage is the card.
01:14:14 --> 01:14:28 Like seriously, I can't even. So no. This. You know, we might have some people out there that aren't huge fans of this game or understand why it gets the love that it gets. But there's just. There's so much to this game and it's so deep and it's. It's so good.
01:14:29 --> 01:14:29 I mean.
01:14:29 --> 01:14:30 Yeah.
01:14:30 --> 01:14:33 I still think this is one of the strongest entries in the whole franchise.
01:14:33 --> 01:14:34 Yeah. Hands down.
01:14:34 --> 01:14:35 Yeah.
01:14:35 --> 01:14:36 Same without question.
01:14:36 --> 01:14:44 Well, arguably, isn't this the game in the franchise? I know everybody fucking loves seven. God damn it.
01:14:44 --> 01:14:46 I think six is better.
01:14:46 --> 01:14:59 I agree. Yeah. As this deus stands, I think we all harmoniously agree that 6 is the probably the final Fantasy. Now I could argue.
01:14:59 --> 01:15:01 GP would probably argue for four, I.
01:15:01 --> 01:15:05 Think because he loves this. Where I see.
01:15:07 --> 01:15:14 Six is. Six is the better story. He loves four for his childhood memories. Right.
01:15:15 --> 01:15:33 That's exactly where I am. Four is my favorite Final Fantasy. Six, I think, is the objectively best Final Fantasy, which I can. I can see a difference there. Like six is very strong. But four was my first rpg, let alone my first Final Fantasy.
01:15:34 --> 01:15:41 A little spoiler, folks. There's probably a year that six is going to make my Sisyphean.
01:15:43 --> 01:15:44 It was mine last year.
01:15:44 --> 01:15:45 Yeah.
01:15:45 --> 01:16:12 But I mean, realistically, I did Chrono. I did Chrono. Right. I really need to do six. And here's. Here's the thing. I'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to spoil a little bit for the. The upcoming Sisyphean. I don't know if it's this year. I'll be honest with you. And I need to get over this. This is a personal hang up Mechs in a fantasy game bother.
01:16:12 --> 01:16:21 Okay. No, but there's an explanation. It's. It's a fantasy. It's a Fantasy steampunk world. And steampunk it is.
01:16:21 --> 01:16:22 I get it.
01:16:22 --> 01:16:22 Is a.
01:16:23 --> 01:16:26 It's. It's steampunk, but really, it's magic punk.
01:16:27 --> 01:16:29 I get that. I get my own.
01:16:29 --> 01:16:32 Are powered by magic.
01:16:32 --> 01:16:35 Right? Yeah, I get it. It's. It's.
01:16:35 --> 01:16:36 And I know to be like, you.
01:16:36 --> 01:16:39 Got vehicles in it in a fantasy game, right?
01:16:39 --> 01:16:51 I mean, not knowing the story, I can understand the hang up there. Like, it seems out of place as you play the story and see where they get the magic and all. That totally fits. And it makes sense.
01:16:51 --> 01:17:03 Yeah. No, and that's my personal hang up. I know it's my personal hang up. Like, I come from an era of wizardry and Bard's Tale and Ultima, right? Where fantasy is fantasy is fantasy is fantasy.
01:17:03 --> 01:17:04 Yeah.
01:17:04 --> 01:17:23 There's no mechs. There's no, like, steampunk. There's no. No, it's wizards and sorcerers and, like, warriors, etc. And like, that's my own hang up. Just like Chrono. I need to get past it. Like, Chronos the fair. I need to get past it. Right.
01:17:23 --> 01:17:25 There are limits to it. Yeah.
01:17:25 --> 01:17:27 The mechs are called magitech.
01:17:27 --> 01:17:28 So Magitech.
01:17:28 --> 01:17:29 Yeah.
01:17:29 --> 01:17:30 Yeah, they are Magitech.
01:17:31 --> 01:17:47 So, like, playing Final Fate 7 Rebirth. Right now, there is literal bus stops. I mean, they call them chocobo stops. And I'm like, what the fuck are we doing here? Nobody's. Nobody's waiting in the middle of a. In the field at a bus stop with a fucking seat.
01:17:47 --> 01:17:48 Whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:17:49 --> 01:17:54 To pick you up is three dudes on a road trip in a car. I mean, whoa, whoa.
01:17:54 --> 01:17:58 I played earthbound. I waited for buses. Okay.
01:17:58 --> 01:18:02 That's different, though. You were in a town, but it made sense when you were at.
01:18:03 --> 01:18:14 But six, I think, is definitely. Where's the steampunk? All over the place. I mean, the first major town you're in the intro is Powered by Steam everywhere. So the whole. The aesthetic for me works. And I love this one.
01:18:14 --> 01:18:31 And a lot of these get over my. I just need to get over my hang up. Honestly, I love the D and D setting. Eberron, which is steampunk. I do. And so really what I need to do is kind of like combine the two and be like, we're good, and just go.
01:18:31 --> 01:19:05 Here's. Here's the thing you get to do with it is that a lot of the mechanized versions of shit are all the bad guys. You're fighting the bad guys that have the mechanized stuff, and you're trying to stop them. From having said mechanized stuff, because you get it is an unhuman, inhuman, morally reprehensible. Exactly. So you can take. You can take your disdain and be like, I'm going to get rid of all this magical robotic shit with the rest of my team because it is morally indispensable or morally whatever the hell you said. Well, smarter than what I said.
01:19:05 --> 01:19:26 Anyway, I know we're off topic here, but I will. I will, honestly. Six is on my list of Sisyphean lists. It really is. Six and a bunch of other games. Right. And so what do I pick? By the way, spoiler, folks, I'm changing my Sisyphean this year. I've already talked to these yahoos.
01:19:26 --> 01:19:32 Anyway, you got to stop picking RPGs. I hope you picked a nice, short game.
01:19:32 --> 01:19:33 No, he's gonna pick another.
01:19:34 --> 01:19:37 I'm gonna pick Street Fighter 6 diamond.
01:19:38 --> 01:19:40 No, I thought you did that last year. We already did that last year.
01:19:41 --> 01:19:43 I think we all did Street Fighter 6 last year.
01:19:43 --> 01:19:44 Yes, we did.
01:19:44 --> 01:19:47 Yeah. I do want to throw in my two cents about six.
01:19:48 --> 01:19:51 Yeah, please. I got some more to go on, too. So you go right in.
01:19:51 --> 01:20:12 Phenomenal score. It has so many characters that you could make arguments about which one is the main character and essentially still be right. They're like, it. It's. It has secret characters like, that you can completely miss and not get it.
01:20:12 --> 01:20:13 All right.
01:20:13 --> 01:20:25 And not just one, but multiple. We're not talking like, you know, you might miss that one chance to get the one character. No, there's, like, there's a secret character that you need another secret character to get.
01:20:25 --> 01:20:26 Yep.
01:20:29 --> 01:20:31 It's. It's meta. Secret characters.
01:20:31 --> 01:21:15 It is this game. This fight is so good. The last boss fight is clearly one of the most beautiful pieces of digital artwork that I have seen come out of it. This is going to be a future tattoo for me at some point in my life. I. I love this game. This game has homages all the way up to here. I mean, if you look. If anybody has played Sea of Stars, Throws of the Watchmaker, even. Even the first 15 minutes of, like, the first dungeon type area, there's a callback, a heavy callback to Final Fantasy 6. And it is hilarious. It is so perfect. You fight a train. You're fighting a train, and guess what happens to said train?
01:21:15 --> 01:21:17 You suplex it.
01:21:17 --> 01:21:19 You fucking suplex it. It is.
01:21:19 --> 01:21:21 Played it for an hour. I've missed that so far.
01:21:22 --> 01:21:54 Well, you'll know about it because it's you. It's one of the major first boss bites that you get into while you're playing it. But I mean this game from 94 has cults out 21 years. You know how many 30 years later, 31 years later they're still calling back to like funny things about it or things about this game. This game is so iconic from start to finish. And whether you it's iconic because you love it like we do, or iconic because you hate it and don't understand it, it's still there. It's. It's like Doom 2. It's like Doom on your pregnancy test. It's there.
01:21:55 --> 01:22:21 Like I said, I've never, I've never played this game through, but I have watched multiple playthroughs although I always try to kind of avoid. I understand what happens with Kefka and I understand the middle point of the game where things change, right? But it is a game that I really feel like I am missing out, not playing.
01:22:22 --> 01:22:31 There's enough peppered around the game itself that even though you know the world gets destroyed, Kefka wins. You fight him as a guy.
01:22:31 --> 01:22:31 Wait, what?
01:22:31 --> 01:22:32 Even though you know that stuff, right?
01:22:32 --> 01:22:33 Wait, what?
01:22:34 --> 01:22:49 It's still. It still will lead you on an emotional journey that you may not be prepared for that you didn't expect to happen. Video games aren't supposed to make you feel feelings like that. Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 make you feel you did not know you could feel from playing.
01:22:49 --> 01:22:55 I was gonna, I was gonna say fucking Toad's character. Jesus Christ. Frog's character.
01:22:55 --> 01:22:55 Ah, right.
01:22:56 --> 01:23:57 I know the only game besides this one that I like had this like we just. I recently beat Claire Obscure Expedition 33. And like when we did the episode on it, I was kind of like, oh, six hours in. It's. It's a fun game, it's cool, whatever. But since that episode, I've actually beaten it. And I freaking love that game. And the feels I get from that game and the final bosses goes back 30 years to Final Fantasy 6. In between that 30 year span, no other RPG or honestly many games really have invoked that amount of emotion and like awe and like wow, this is fucking amazing. Except for Clerics here. That's how impactful Falface 6 is, is how it stays with you is like I love that game. And to me that's the snes. Like I like Zelda and Metroid and all that too. And it's great. But FF6 is just such a masterpiece of art on that console. And like I have not felt that way about any game since Clare Obscure. Like it's, it's so iconic on gaming's history. Like, it really is such a fantastic game.
01:23:58 --> 01:24:10 Jake and I need to have a spoil cast episode about Claire Obscura because he and I are both, we have very emotional, emotional feelings about how fucking incredible the writing is in that game and where that story went.
01:24:11 --> 01:24:12 Speaking of upcoming, and like my opinion.
01:24:12 --> 01:24:18 Changed so much since we did the episode because I haven't, I didn't beat it when they did the episode. We should do that as a spoiler.
01:24:18 --> 01:24:20 Speaking of upcoming, this is the game.
01:24:20 --> 01:24:21 Of the year for 94.
01:24:21 --> 01:24:26 Yeah. We need to do a Sisyphean follow up at some point soon. We're halfway through the year.
01:24:27 --> 01:24:30 You mean I got install Half Life again, maybe?
01:24:30 --> 01:24:32 Well, no, you uninstalled it. So you beat it.
01:24:33 --> 01:24:34 Well, you're beat it. Yeah.
01:24:34 --> 01:24:38 Well, halfway through the year, it's time to start doing something about that Half Life.
01:24:39 --> 01:24:51 Wow. And you can't use Half Life as well. It cuts it in half. Right. So get a little bit longer than you guys do. So I get to play it a little longer than you guys do. No, that's not fine.
01:24:51 --> 01:24:51 We're good.
01:24:51 --> 01:24:53 This, it's not radioactivity, okay. It's the game.
01:24:55 --> 01:24:55 Yeah.
01:24:55 --> 01:25:18 No, this isn't Chernobyl, buddy. I mean, I, I, I think every pick for game of the year has been a banger. I think on the DOS side, Doom 2 wins over Final Fantasy 6. But I really think on the SNES, Final Fantasy 6. I know. Kirby Golf. Kirby Golf looks awesome and I want to play it.
01:25:19 --> 01:25:22 That's a challenge right there. Challenge. Challenge accepted.
01:25:23 --> 01:25:34 But, but I mean, as far as like a game released on the SNES in 1994 and I know we got Final Fantasy 3, but it really is 6.
01:25:35 --> 01:25:35 Yeah.
01:25:36 --> 01:25:36 Yeah.
01:25:36 --> 01:25:40 It's a shame we didn't get 5 because 5 was. 5 is a good game. 5 is a really good kind of series.
01:25:40 --> 01:25:44 But yeah, 5 was pretty fun too. Not, not the same level as 6 or 4.
01:25:44 --> 01:25:44 No.
01:25:44 --> 01:25:59 But I did like 5 gameplay quite a bit with the job system. I mean, what the hell? Like 94 was like just a epic year. Right? Because that was, that was when the console war was in full swing. You had Genesis and SNES were in their prime. All the hits were coming out on both platforms and they just.
01:25:59 --> 01:26:24 Golden Age of 16 Bit Doss was a very strong player in 94. I picked two games. There are so many games on that list in 1994 that I mean, this is a great year. Come to our discord and tell us. What game you picked for 1994? Because there's like a hundred games that could have been game of the year in 1994 easily.
01:26:25 --> 01:26:39 Yeah. If you're, if you're a fan of Mega man, the Wily wars and that close knit tight community of Mega man fans who love Wiley wars and respect it, feel free to come to our discord and tell us why we should have picked it as somebody's pick. I mean I had to crack open.
01:26:39 --> 01:26:41 That whole can of Dr.
01:26:41 --> 01:26:42 These guys. Had no excuse.
01:26:44 --> 01:26:50 I. I was this close to nominating Castlevania Bloodlines for the Genesis.
01:26:50 --> 01:26:51 That's a good one.
01:26:51 --> 01:26:52 That's a good one too.
01:26:52 --> 01:26:53 That's a good one.
01:26:54 --> 01:26:57 Yeah. 1994 is a hard pick, right?
01:26:57 --> 01:27:02 I mean, yeah, I think we all had our picks within the first like five minutes of looking at the game.
01:27:02 --> 01:27:20 Well and I literally looked at a bunch and I was like, that really should be game of the year on dos. But it's obscure. That's the problem is I picked games that people would know. Right, right. As far as the DOS games go, there were some obscure games that should have been game.
01:27:20 --> 01:27:23 Speaking of example of your like, like.
01:27:23 --> 01:27:31 Legend of Kurandia 3 episode together, Legend of India 3. Malcolm's revenge is a fantastic fucking game.
01:27:32 --> 01:27:33 But kind of game is that is like a.
01:27:33 --> 01:27:44 It's an adventure. It's a click. It's a click and it's a point and click. It's. It's a kin. It's Westwood fucking Studios. Westwood Studios, Yeah.
01:27:44 --> 01:27:45 Okay, everybody.
01:27:45 --> 01:27:59 I mean anybody who's watching the video just know that a portal is not opening up behind me. The sun is hitting my screen there. That's not a portal. Everybody chill out. It's my curtains moving. But I'll tell you what, it did catch my eye for a minute.
01:27:59 --> 01:28:36 If, if I remember right one, I think maybe the first Heroes of Might and Magic came out in 94. I mean this is. It's a hard list to pick from, but I knew people would pick Doom or would know Doom 2. And I mean how do you suppress Doom 2? And then Blackthorn of. And then Blackthorn of course was ported to like everything. Right. So no Banger Banger Year 1994. Hard pick for years show. I mean it doesn't have a circus.
01:28:36 --> 01:28:51 Charlie, but I mean there's no circus Charlie, sadly in 94. But I know we, I noticed we're going away from the 80s. We are episodes. We need to start shifting gears going back toward the 80s closer to release date of Charlie's I can bring that up.
01:28:52 --> 01:28:52 I don't know.
01:28:52 --> 01:29:00 Or we can do a whole episode on it if you guys want. I mean, don't twist my arm or anything, but I. I'll gladly talk about Charlie for multiple episodes.
01:29:00 --> 01:29:05 I don't think you want the three of us with you talking about circus Charlie. I think that's a good idea.
01:29:05 --> 01:29:07 I got a mute button. It's okay.
01:29:07 --> 01:29:14 Let's talk about rotten fruit. All right.
01:29:17 --> 01:29:22 Yeah. Oh, sorry. XCOM. UFO defense. Amazing game.
01:29:22 --> 01:29:23 XCOM's great, too. Yeah.
01:29:23 --> 01:29:33 Yeah. Magic carpet. Great game. Wing Commander 3 under a killing Moon. Oh, dear God. Why did I not pick that? You know why? Because nobody knows that game.
01:29:33 --> 01:29:38 Anyway, supposed to be your game of the year. 94. Not everything.
01:29:38 --> 01:29:39 I know, I know.
01:29:39 --> 01:29:39 Yeah.
01:29:40 --> 01:29:40 Yeah.
01:29:40 --> 01:29:48 But oddball picks are good. That game, by the way, has. What's his name? That was the voice of Vader.
01:29:49 --> 01:29:50 James Earl.
01:29:50 --> 01:29:51 Mark Hamill. No.
01:29:51 --> 01:29:52 James Earl Jones.
01:29:52 --> 01:30:02 Yeah. Has James Earl Jones in it. Under a Killing Moon has James Earl Jones in it. So, yeah. Yep.
01:30:02 --> 01:30:02 All right.
01:30:04 --> 01:30:21 Well, fantastic, gentlemen. This has been a banner year. 1994. Okay, come to our Discord. Press b2cancel.com pressbe.org we are part of the Superpod Network. Superpodnetwork.com I believe, Jake.
01:30:22 --> 01:30:24 Yes, I think so. Yes.
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