Press B 213: Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree and Gatekeeping

The world's longest episode title this week on the Press B podcast! Shadow of the Erdtree is out, is it good? Should you play it? Can you....play it? Are you allowed? Are you playing a souls game "wrong"?! Elden Ring's expansion is getting rave reviews and as usual with a Fromsoft title the internet discourse is peak nonsense

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00:00 --> 00:08 If you liked it, you should have put an Erdtree on it, stupid.
00:10 --> 00:29 You know what? I'm going with it. If you liked it, you should have put an Erdtree on it. Look, if you don't like that opening one line, who are you to tell me in a podcast, are you gatekeeping me on how I podcast? Really? Shadows of the Erdtree and gatekeeping. This week on.
00:49 --> 00:51 Hey, it's been over two minutes. Fuck.
00:52 --> 00:56 Fuck. Thank God. That. That two minute thing is going to mess me up, I tell you.
00:56 --> 00:58 Oh, my goodness. It's not that hard.
00:59 --> 01:01 It is that hard. Have you heard me talk?
01:03 --> 01:21 Welcome to another episode of press me to cancel. Look, if you like a show where a bunch of old white guys debate topics, just rest assured that at least were under 70. I am sick. Jake, your host this week, and I'm joined by three friends. Sinister, how you doing this week?
01:22 --> 01:23 Fantastic. How about you?
01:23 --> 01:25 Wait, did I count? Yeah, I got it right.
01:26 --> 01:29 You got it right. He did it right. We always agree.
01:29 --> 01:30 Wolf, how you doing this week?
01:31 --> 01:34 I'm doing okay. I think we beat Medicaid.
01:39 --> 01:40 Oh, God.
01:40 --> 01:41 That was what you were looking for, right?
01:42 --> 01:53 That's right. On brand. I don't want to go into it, but, yes, that was exactly what the joke was. That's. That's perfect. We're gonna be okay. Everybody has bad debate nights. It's fine. It's fine. It's okay. Jared, how are you doing? Are you fine?
01:56 --> 02:04 I was good when we started, but someone put agreat at the end of mine, so we're. We're rocking. That's spelling. That's great. I'm good.
02:05 --> 02:59 All right, welcome, everybody. Did that line. It's been a week. Look, we're gonna talk about a couple things this week. Chief among them, there's this gang called Elder Ring. I don't know. Some people like, it might have been game of the year in some weird categories. I don't know. But definitely Chard's favorite game of the last two years. And it just got a huge, huge expansion, shadow of the Erdtree, which almost every media outlet is giving it glowing reviews. There's only two that kind of knocked it for difficulty, and we'll get to there. But first we want to talk about Elden ring. Erdtree expansion. Does this bring you back your interest in Elden ring? Are you playing Erdtree? Can you play it? How should you play souls games and the whole Internet discourse of how people seem to always have an opinion on how you play these gaps, these freaking games. So, I guess let's start off with Jarred. I think you're the only one of us playing the expansion, is that right?
02:59 --> 03:54 Yes, I think. Well, I'm bringing at least two or three of you with me. I know that for a fact. So you guys may not be playing it, but you are enjoying, hopefully enjoying the. What you've been shown so far. But, yes, I've been playing it. I have about 180 hours in Elden ring right now, which includes the dlC. Excuse me. So, my last. Last two weeks, 36 hours, which makes sense for the expansion being dropped in a total of 196.6 hours. I'm coming for you. Final Fantasy eight. Just so you know, since Wolf called me out the last time on the most played game I have, which is actually Final Fantasy eleven. Zodiac. No. Twelve. Zodiac. This is going. This is probably going to top that. I have a feeling this is going to break that number.
03:54 --> 03:56 That's crazy.
03:56 --> 04:11 Really quickly, I want to give my take because it's stupid. Quick on Erdtree. And that is. Dragons are so stupid. And that is one fucked up hippopotamus. That's all I'm saying.
04:11 --> 04:13 It is truth.
04:13 --> 04:15 Yeah, that's my take on Erdtree.
04:15 --> 04:16 Yeah.
04:16 --> 04:40 So far. I mean, I. I am interested in Erdtree, but I never beat Elden ring to begin with. Um, I. I dumped about 90 hours into it the first time, never did finish it, and, uh, I picked it up again. Now, watching you play it kind of sparked that bug of playing Elden ring again. So I've been slowly working my through it. I might actually beat it this time, maybe. I don't want to promise anything because I have a whole, you know, schedule of street fighter six playing for the next five to six months.
04:41 --> 04:46 I am willing to give on street fighter six platinum. If you beat Elden ring.
04:47 --> 04:51 I'd be totally on board for that as well. I support that decision.
04:51 --> 04:52 Yeah.
04:52 --> 04:56 Going to be roughly the same time sink, but at least.
04:56 --> 04:58 And difficulty.
04:59 --> 05:03 Okay. Just the base game or do I have to do the DLC? Just the base game.
05:03 --> 05:17 No, just the base game. But. But what I want out of you, it's got caveats. I have caveats because you can. You can beat the base game. It's not that bad. I want you to take on at least millennia or.
05:17 --> 05:39 Yeah, I was playing, too, so that was the one thing question I have with this game is the base game. And we'll get back to the expansion because it ties into it. The base game. You only need to get two of the shard bears two of the main runes before you can beat the game. Although I don't know how that's possible because the last city is fucking hard. How many of them should I actually beat? Is it worth doing all the bosses in the base game?
05:39 --> 06:38 Yes, I think so. Well, I. Seriously, I think it is. And not even, like, you don't have to do all the dungeons and caves and stuff, but I think doing everything, at least the main line stuff, you get better gear, you get more experience to get better runes, and you get cool weaponry and stuff that you can upgrade and take with you to make it a little bit easier. I've been using Moog's spear for the last couple of, I guess, Triton, that thing that you see me running around with. Yeah, yeah. That thing is awesome. And it's only. You only get it if you beat the secret boss, Moog, which gets you into the Erdtree. But we'll. We'll talk about that later. But, I mean, you would miss out on something like that if you didn't go looking for it, you know what I mean? If you don't fight, there's an NPC that gives you rivers of blood. That's in the Giants hill, mountains of giants, like, late game, and I ran rivers of blood for like, eternity. After all.
06:38 --> 06:47 Isn't that how you defeat. Isn't that how you defeated millennia, milania, whatever it is? Yeah, I heard blood Trump Trump's wife. Yeah.
06:47 --> 06:48 Yeah.
06:48 --> 06:50 Oh, that's gonna live my head rent free now.
06:51 --> 07:08 That's one scary boss fight. But yeah, I think you get more experience. Not just experience, like runes experience, but, like, experience playing against different kind of tactics that you can feel out what works best. You'll die a lot, but that's. That's part of learning. That's part of the game.
07:08 --> 07:09 Yeah.
07:09 --> 07:31 Yeah. And you're using this. I use the spellcaster too, so you're running the same kind of magic build that I had, and I think it made it a little bit easier. Of course, I like to, you know, pretend I'm a strength build every time I play, when I'm not playing one, so. But I think you have that not in your head. So you're. You're already at a better pace than I was when I first started. Yeah.
07:32 --> 08:23 This. This second time going through the game has been interesting for me. I definitely love the spells I was doing faith strength last time I played. And I mean, I like the melee combat. It's. It's fun, but only to a certain point. I have attention span for it, because some of the boss battles. You get two shots so easily in this game, and that. And that's part of the appeal. I get it, but at least with the mage build, I usually. I usually summon a spirit because they're in the game. I summon the spirit, and then I fill my bar, and then I'll sling magic rocks at the boss, and I usually get them halfway down, and at that point, I'll switch to, I think I have a katana right now, and I'll use that, and it's fun for me. That's a nice mix of, like, spells and melee combat. I don't feel like I'm doing the same thing too often, and it's been working so far. I mean, I'm. I'm two bosses down. But I was curious how many I should. I should do because when I first played, I did, uh, Godric, of course. Uh, Rihanna. Rihanna road.
08:23 --> 08:27 Uh, b. I can't.
08:27 --> 08:29 Reina, what's the lady lets you respect?
08:30 --> 08:31 Renee is. Renee is her daughter.
08:31 --> 08:33 But there's a mom.
08:33 --> 08:35 Ronna or Rena. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
08:35 --> 08:49 The one with the. The weird, weird egg thing going on. And then we're done. I beat. Oh, no, he's gonna get the book. Well, it's been a great show, guys. We're now gonna switch over to the Elden ring lore podcast with charred. For the next 6 hours.
08:52 --> 08:57 It's getting names. Jesus. But when I continue, I'll find her name.
08:57 --> 09:24 There was three. So I spent 90 hours, and I. And I swear I only saw, like, three zones. Like, there. There are zones I'm seeing now that I never even touched. And it blows my mind how large this games map is. Like, it is truly open world and a skill I haven't seen in anything else. The closest I've seen maybe Morrowind maybe. Or maybe breath of the wild or twilight. Twilight Kingdom because it's just such a huge scope. So I don't know.
09:25 --> 10:02 The best part about the map when in the base game is it. It starts really zoomed in on lim grave, like, right when you started out. So when you're playing it for the first time ever and you're like, you know, people say this game is really big, but it doesn't appear that way. I mean, you haven't unlocked it. There's fog of war around you, of course, because you got to go find all the rest of map pieces. But as the game progresses, it opens up, literally. Your map gets further and further away. Your camera gets further and further away of the map. So then it turns out to be freaking enormous. And that's not even counting the underground stuff. It's crazy.
10:03 --> 10:06 Yeah. Like, one. Go ahead.
10:06 --> 10:13 I prefer to call it middle earth, not the underground middle earth anywhere.
10:13 --> 10:14 Middle lower. Middle lower.
10:14 --> 10:22 Oh, so it's. It's estimated to be about 30.5 sq. Mi, or 79 km².
10:23 --> 10:23 Good Lord.
10:23 --> 10:25 That's pretty frigging big.
10:25 --> 10:27 That's a hefty map.
10:27 --> 11:10 Like, I swear, that's bigger than most MMO maps, to be honest with you. Like, I think that trumps Guild war two. Guild wars two. And that's. That's a game with a lot of different zones. And this is all seamless. Right? There's. There's no loading time as you move through areas. The most you get is an elevator occasionally and still not really loading. It's not like a mass effect situation, but, yeah, the map is ridiculously huge, and it's packed with secrets. It's crazy. But. But anyway, so you get the runes and the bosses. The one thing I was surprised about when the expansion was. Was released is it's not. It's clearly not for everybody who's played elden ring. Like, you have to have beaten it, but not only just beating it, you have to have beaten certain bosses. So what actually do you need to do to get to the expansion chart? You said beat Moog was one of the hidden bosses.
11:10 --> 11:15 Moga's the more obvious one. Also, it's Renala, queen of the full moon. Thank you.
11:15 --> 11:16 There you go.
11:16 --> 11:43 Okay. I'm sorry. I can't lose my cred. Right. So you have to beat Mo. And at first, it was. It was slated to be like, you should be Rodan, but you don't have to be Rodan. And then it turned into yes, you actually have to beat Rodan. So Rodan, for those who don't know, he's the guy in the little horse. Big motherfucking dude on the tiny horse that you do the. The whole battlefield thing with where you can send a bunch of people.
11:43 --> 11:46 Actually, one of. One of my favorite battles I watched.
11:46 --> 13:04 You fight was, it's a cool fight. Yeah. He opens up the underground section. Essentially, when he dies, a comet falls from the sky. There's a whole lore thing about Reiney the witch is her destiny has been stalled because Rodan has halted the ability for the stars to move with his gravitational magic. And once you kill him. Yeah, you're getting lore. Once you kill him, uh, that magic gets broken, and then the stars move, and Ronnie's destiny then can be pushed forward, and there's a comet that hits the earth and opens up, uh, the start of the underground area where you can go underground and explore, um, nost, uh, nostica, I think is what it's called. Um, and all the other rounds down there. Now Moogs location is underground, so. But you can still. I was playing this on new game plus, so I'm trying to remember why like it that needed to happen. I'm assuming it had to be unlocked because of that. Because you can go all the way to the snowy fields and take a warp and warp straight into Moog's area to just fight your way up that. That hill. But highly recommend you do that at a higher level because you will get Mastercard unless you run really fast.
13:05 --> 13:13 Well, the other way of doing, getting to Mogas, the way I do it is you do the PvP introduction. You talk to the guy. Yep.
13:13 --> 13:29 White masked fire is the other one, which is the first NPC you meet when you leave and enter the worlds between. Hes the guy that tells you that youre maidenless. But if you do his mission, you can get into, uh, moogs area with that way too. That's actually a quicker way than doing the snowy field.
13:29 --> 13:38 Well, especially if you want to do it early. Right. Because. Because of the snowy area. I don't think I've had. I don't think I've seen that yet. I don't think. So that's the way north of the map. So. Yeah.
13:38 --> 13:40 That's super late game. Yeah.
13:40 --> 14:15 Yeah. I mean, the one thing I love about Elden Ring is that you can even low level get pretty much most of the map. If you really want to find a certain specific item that somebody told you, that's good. But I mean, there are still parts that are locked off, which is fine. So you have to be mog and you have to beat radon and then you kind of. Okay, so then you go on from there. So you mentioned earlier that, you know, it's great to do all the bosses because you get cool gear and levels and all that kind of stuff. How much of that matters though, in the expansion? Because I think you have to explain what they did with the expansion to make it not so cut and dry. Easy peasy with your build. Right.
14:16 --> 16:33 So there's this. This might segue into our gatekeeping discussion that we'll have with this. I don't know. But so basically what they did and a lot of people, there are people who don't like this. I thought it was cool because Elden Ring is the most open and accessible game to anybody who wants to play a fromsoft type game that is an armor core six. Basically, if you want to play something that's, like, dark souls esque, but you don't want the hard, linear playthrough and the bosses you have to deal with and you can go around and do your thing. That's. That's what Elden ring kind of is. But I think people. People were gatekeeping on stuff. Again, another discussion that we'll have here a little bit. And what I think the team did was like, f you guys, we give you these things to use them. You should use them. Even, you know, Miyazaki was like, use them? I use them when I play them. And I'm the president of Fromsoft. Um, they basically said, all of your overleveling and everything is not going to matter. You can sit and farm till your 351 levels, which I've seen and can be done. Doesn't matter. Doesn't make an ode a difference, because as soon as you cross into the row, the. The shadow area. The shadow realm, you have to start looking for shadow blessings to up your damage negation and your damage output, as well as reverend ashes. That will allow your summons to become stronger and more useful out there. So they are there specific items for your summons to make them better in the new area. It's not like it's the. The Glasgow or the gloward stuff that you find in dungeons that will level them up outside of the game. You actually have to find the reverend ashes to make them strong, too, so they're in the game to be there. Um, so I didn't think. What I think that the devs did were like, we don't want people just to walk in here and just walk through the DLC and not appreciate it for what a Fromsoft game is. We want people to have the same exact challenge that they had when they first started the game up and. And dive in and do their thing and, ooh, they. They delivered. They definitely delivered on that promise.
16:33 --> 16:59 Yeah. The interview that you met, you mentioned about Miyazaki. Yeah, he said he had to go. He wanted to go back to elder ring himself before, you know, they were working on Erdtree. And. Yeah, he clearly. He flat out said, I suck at these video games, and I use everything like he says, the spirits and all the stuff we put in the game to make it. To make it more easy to get through the boss encounters. I use that stuff. I use all that stuff. Which I think he probably came out publicly to say that because of some of the discourse going lately. Go ahead.
16:59 --> 17:14 Yeah, not. I mean, I don't know if we're segwaying into this conversation. It kind of feels like we are. So I'll. I'll say a piece here, which is, honestly, if the game gives it to you, how is it? How is it, you know, misusing? Right.
17:14 --> 17:14 That's.
17:14 --> 17:15 Yeah.
17:15 --> 17:29 And, I mean, that's a thing I've heard since I was a kid. Like, you're playing games with your friends and you do something, they'd be like, you can't do that. That's cheating. It's like, it's in the game. In the game has a button for it. Like, it's not like I've.
17:29 --> 17:34 It's not like I've pulled out my gangi. And, you know, I'm using that.
17:34 --> 17:38 Don't you make me that drawer right there.
17:38 --> 17:53 It's not like I've pulled out my game genie and. And, like, you know, input a code. These are, like. In fact, at one point in the game, you find the lady that gives you the ability to use the summons.
17:53 --> 17:54 Yeah. Really?
17:54 --> 18:00 It's also not like, you know, tunic, where you go into the menu and set the accessibility.
18:00 --> 18:01 Right.
18:01 --> 18:04 This is a in game function.
18:04 --> 18:09 Yep. That's like saying you can't drink your healing potions in the middle of a fight. Yeah.
18:09 --> 18:26 I mean, if you want to set your own rules for how you enjoy the game, that's fine. If other people enjoy it by doing what you might consider cheesing, who cares if they're enjoying. Like, they're enjoying a game you enjoy. Why? Where's the problem there? Right?
18:27 --> 18:45 I watched Chard beat a boss with the. With the trident, the Moog trident, where there was a wall, and he utilized the wall to put the wall between him and the. And the boss. And he just sat there and used the ability. That's an area of effect. And I gave him crap. I said he was cheating it to.
18:45 --> 18:49 Hell, but it was at the same.
18:49 --> 18:53 Time, he didn't break anything in the game to make it work.
18:54 --> 19:07 Yeah. You know how many bosses I cheesed in the messenger? Like, I figured out ways that were cheesy to beat bosses in that game, because that's part of what I find fun.
19:08 --> 19:13 How often do you circle a pillar to keep the pillar between you and an enemy? Right?
19:13 --> 19:15 I mean, watching me way too much.
19:16 --> 19:18 Sorry, wolf. Go ahead.
19:18 --> 19:18 Oh, no, no.
19:18 --> 19:29 Like, I mean, that's. It's not. There's nothing wrong with trying to keep yourself safe during a boss fight.
19:29 --> 19:30 Right, right.
19:30 --> 19:57 I mean, that was. That was part of a strategy. At another game I'm playing, I've been working on escape the back rooms with a friend of mine and saw you pop on. There's a lot of times that the monsters, like, you got to put yourself. You got to put a pillar between you and them. So they lose. They can lose track of you sometimes, and it's like, this is how you do it. Like, it's a little cheesy because you didn't keep running and jump into a closet or under a bed or some garbage like that. But, I mean, if they lose track you, they lose track of you.
19:57 --> 19:57 Right.
19:57 --> 19:58 It's effective.
19:58 --> 19:59 Right.
19:59 --> 20:06 So if you're safe, I want to do a blanket statement here just so people understand what the discussion is, because we kind of fired.
20:06 --> 20:08 Yeah, we fired right through.
20:08 --> 20:56 So there's. There's a whole Reddit Team. There's a whole, like, Group of people that have basically come out and said during Elden Ring, if you use any of the Summons, you are cheating, and you're not a real fromsoft, Dark Souls soulsborne player because you are using effects that are making the game too easy for you and making the bosses manageable in some sense. Sinister and Jake have both watched me repetitively use summons and still get my ass kicked every single goddamn time. So. So the idea is now, because the Erdtree has come out, which is, this is what I love so much. I feed off of this stuff, guys. Just FYI. Sure. This absolute, like, total flip floppy bullshit that you hear, it's hypocrisy.
20:56 --> 20:57 It's hypocrisy.
20:57 --> 21:23 I love the hypocrisy of it. So now, because the Erdtree game has come out and you are basically. I wouldn't say forced. Forced is not the way to use it. But it is in your best interest to utilize the summons and anything that can help you get through the bosses, because it has amped up the difficulty quite a bit. People are now backtracking on the things that they said previously, saying, you know what? It's okay now. No, it's fine. No use.
21:24 --> 21:25 What's wrong with it? It's fine now.
21:26 --> 21:50 You're totally okay to use it now. Don't. Don't think. You're not a player anymore because you have to use your summons. Use them. That's what they're there for. Two years ago was not the case. Nah, get out of here. You can't do that. You're not really playing this right. As if there's a wrong way to play it. So that's, that's the, that's the basis of how we're going to get into, like kind of some gatekeeping discussion on this.
21:50 --> 22:19 And I'm going to, I'm going to even set the bar even lower than this, because to me, I've talked about if it's in the game, it's not cheating, but I'm going to take it to a next tier, which is if it's a single player game, okay. If you're playing online, we can have a discussion beyond what's built into the game. But if you're playing it solo, single player, and you pull out a mod or a cheat or a hack or whatever, that makes the game playable for what you desire.
22:20 --> 22:20 Yeah.
22:20 --> 22:25 Who gives a shit if you know what? Move along, haters.
22:25 --> 22:27 Right? No, I get it.
22:27 --> 22:46 I've said before where it's like, if I was at the point where, you know, I wouldn't mind playing with a mod that gave you more flasks, just, just double the flasks, and then I would still have a blast with this game. And I don't see a problem if somebody wants to do that. I'm with you. If it's not online or cheating online and affecting other people's enjoyment of the game online, who the hell cares?
22:46 --> 22:48 You're not changing anything for me, particularly.
22:48 --> 22:52 A game that doesn't have any ranked leaderboards or any garbage.
22:52 --> 22:52 Right.
22:52 --> 23:00 You're not affecting other players. It's literally your experience versus the next player's experience with the exact same game.
23:00 --> 23:00 Right.
23:00 --> 23:01 That's all it is.
23:01 --> 23:05 It's not somebody trying to diamond Street Fighter six.
23:07 --> 23:44 It's not even. I mean, it's not people that are, nor is it here. And here's the other thing about. So we'll, we'll zip back to the actual eldering discussion real quick. So they amped up the difficulty. Right? You gotta find all this stuff. There are reviews on day one overwhelmingly positive on Steam. They were, everybody loved it. Everybody was pumped about it. I freaking loved it. I was totally taken back by the whole thing still. And I'm still in that headspace. It's a fromsoft game. When I was getting my ass kicked by the golden hippo sinistar, what did I say over and over again? I hate this.
23:45 --> 23:45 Yeah.
23:45 --> 23:59 I didn't say I hate this game. I said, nope, I'm not what I paid for. This is my expectation. This is what I show you why that's true. Through it. No, I haven't gotten to hate this game part yet, but I.
23:59 --> 24:00 This is.
24:00 --> 24:39 My expectations are there. I'm not gonna. I'm barely gonna one shot anything. It's just not gonna happen because you gotta learn it's a strategy. It's. As much as it's an ARPG, it's a fucking strategy, too, right? I. I mean, it really is. So. So because of this and because you can't just go out and farm in Moog's palace like I have been doing thousands and thousands of ruins, and then take your newly acquired strength into the next world and just beat the ever living crap event out of anything. People started getting upset and saying, this game is too hard. This game is too hard. This game is too hard. That we mention this game is too hard.
24:39 --> 24:41 I just.
24:41 --> 24:44 My mind, I just have to ask.
24:44 --> 24:46 When'S it gonna be right?
24:46 --> 24:51 It's never gonna be right. That's like saying flight simulator has too much flying in it.
24:51 --> 24:52 Well, it does.
24:52 --> 25:08 Well, so I want a car. I bought flight simulator drive. Yeah, but go buy forza, dude. Like, if you don't, don't, don't, don't ruin it for everybody else. And they did. Essentially. They ruined it for everybody else.
25:08 --> 25:09 Well, then they.
25:09 --> 25:50 Catch was released not too long ago. They made it so that these skidoo tree blessings. That's how I pronounce it. 62 skidoo tree. Now. Now they. They. They peak your. Your negation and your attack output higher in the first, like, couple, and then they start to taper more. So because people were complaining so much about how hard it was. I wasn't complaining. I was angry from time to time, but I knew what I signed up for. Now we are. And now. Now everybody's mad that they went and put this patch in to make it easier for everybody. And it's not that much. I don't feel like it's that much easier. I don't know if I don't have.
25:51 --> 26:32 There's no hard numbers on what the change actually did. But some people are saying it's all. They almost. They almost think, tongue in cheek, that it was a placebo effect from soft. Just want to put a bug at people's ear that, hey, look, assholes, we put these trees in there. They're there for a reason. Go get the damn seeds from these trees. And that. This is one way of saying, hey, we made it better for you. But they did similar with a patch in the. In the base game as well, because I remember I. I've just spent hours and we're done. I hate that son of a bitch. That tiny little horse riding motherfucker. I hate him so much, chard. It took me hours. And then after I finally beat it, I think a week later, they released a patch that nerfed his damage a bit. It's still a hard ass fight. I'm sure it's still ridiculously hard.
26:32 --> 26:40 Well, charge should be pissed. Charge should be pissed right now because they added a patch that makes it so you can fight the end boss on your horse.
26:40 --> 26:44 Yeah, char beat it the hard way on my feet.
26:45 --> 26:47 So fuck everybody else, Charlie.
26:47 --> 26:52 The only thing that sucks about that is it takes a while to get through the arena because it's a big arena.
26:52 --> 26:54 It's a huge arena.
26:54 --> 27:45 But I mean, it's, it's funny to me. It's. There's actually, there's mods out there that make the game harder. And they have characters and it's called lore accurate, rodon, or lore accurate, Molinia, or whatever. And it is insanity. I've been watching. Let me solo hers. Tick tock. And he's got these tick tucks on there of him fighting like these super boosted boss fights. It is madness. You think that anything that comes out of the Erdtree is hard. Go watch more accurate fights like Rodan. It's madness. Absolutely madness. So. And I haven't finished a lot. I haven't finished all of our tree. Like, I got to Mesmer, and I've beaten a couple of the main line bosses, so I don't know what's still out there. So if I'm missing something, don't at me, because I don't. I'm sure I missed some shit.
27:46 --> 27:49 You're 39. 39 hours in, you think you said so far?
27:49 --> 27:51 Yep. 30, which is 36 in the last two weeks. Yeah.
27:52 --> 28:08 Yeah. Which is. I heard Mesmer's like. It's like a checkpoint, boss, in terms of, like, just making sure you have enough seeds, like the, the skidoosh seeds or whatever, to be a certain power level. And that's like a skill. Like, once you beat him, it's like a hump. That's like, like radon was, I think, in the base game. Once you beat on, I think you can get through a lot of the game.
28:09 --> 28:17 Always thought that he was like the end. If he's not the end, then I'm not going to be upset, because I thought for sure he was like, no.
28:17 --> 28:36 Mesmerize, not the end. I think that this is the thing with this game that I think I appreciate more than I don't think it should be called a DLC. I think this is one of those rare times we actually got an honest to goodness expansion for a game, right. We used to get expansions in the nineties for CRPG, like throwing a ball. Right. Had an expansion. I believed in it. Or was it the first game that.
28:36 --> 28:38 Had one ultimate Ultima sevens expansion?
28:38 --> 28:39 Right.
28:39 --> 28:47 Yeah, was. Yeah. There you go. Ultima sevens expansion was nearly another game. I mean, you know, or Neverworld.
28:47 --> 29:15 I loved the hell of neverwinternights and I got two expansions, and those were beefy media expansions. And we haven't. We don't get too many of those these days. And it's usually just these shorter bite sized dlcs or even a dozen hour DLC, which is pretty good these days. But people kind of got upset about this with the cost of this one. But when I see, like, you've put 40 hours into it and I think you're maybe halfway for, if we're being generously, you got a lot to go. And that's 40 hours of gameplay is pretty nuts.
29:15 --> 29:28 What was it that I think. I think that the DLC for Witcher, the first one was listed as like 20 something hours. Right. And that plays like its own story. And you're still. You're not pissed at the end of it, you know?
29:28 --> 29:29 Yeah.
29:29 --> 30:06 I think that's the closest thing to what Erdtree is for. Elden ring is basically like Witcher DLC because even the dark souls, three expansions or the dlcs that came out, you got like four new bosses, like between the two. And it's an extra, you know, I mean, if you beat the bosses quickly, the game that, they don't last very long, but obviously you're going to be stuck against a wall. So you got some time to feed into that. But I mean, this. This is. There are people in my stream that have been watching this. I don't mean to self promote myself here, but there are people that have been hanging out on my stream. I know. Shocker. What charge? Being humble.
30:06 --> 30:10 Tv chard monk twitch. Tv chard monk.
30:10 --> 30:13 Press b.com. chardmonk.
30:14 --> 30:20 No, God damn it. Press b.org. can't afford it.
30:20 --> 31:01 There are people in my. In my stream that were kind of iffy on Elden ring. They didn't think it was, you know, all that stuff. But watching the Erdtree and seeing what they've done to it has made them want to go back. Jake, you're a perfect example of that. Not that you hated it, but you didn't want to go back and now you do. So they've. They've been able to bring another audience in just by watching. And the things that they've changed in our tree are things I wish that they would have put into the main game too, because it's. It's some cool shit. It's. It's really, really well done. I think it's basically its own game. It could have easily been Elden ring two if it wanted to be.
31:01 --> 32:23 That was the interview with Miyazaki. That was one thing he said as well, is that when they released the game, I don't think they initially expected the. How the open world would affect how players can customize their difficulty. Cause I think. I think when we did neldering episode in the past, I think I may. I may have mentioned complaints about, you know, there should be some accessibility or difficulty options and some kind in the. The game. You don't. You almost don't need to in. In the way that it's there if you think about it with an open mind in that. And I do this right where if I get stuck at Stormville Castle, the very first boss, I struggle with the first boss twice now, but I don't have to kill him right then and there. There's a whole map you can explore and mess around with and level up in. And then when you're ready or when you're a little bit higher in level, then you can go and fight the boss. Sure. If I was like a really great gamer and I was really good at the Dodge game, then I can go there at, you know, level one if I wanted to. Like there's. You have the option to level yourself higher than you need to be to be certain bosses. And I love that about the game because you don't feel stuck or trapped like you do in the other Souls games. You have the freedom to explore and level up and come back. And I think that's one of the reasons why people are so pissed at Erdri is because they can't necessarily. They can't necessarily do that. They have, or maybe they've done the exploring and they. Before, they don't want to do it again, maybe. But I did. I do want to ask, like you said, there's changes in Erdtree. Like what did they change that you, you, you wish they did in the first game? Because they definitely learned lessons from the first game.
32:23 --> 32:29 The game is not as big as Elden ring it, but it is still very big. And like sinistar and I both said it's.
32:29 --> 32:30 It's.
32:30 --> 32:34 It's almost topical. Like, it's the right word.
32:34 --> 32:35 Vertical.
32:35 --> 32:36 Not topical, vertical.
32:36 --> 33:43 It's you. It's more. There's more depth to it and height to it than there is flat out, like location. I'm still trying to find all the damn map pieces because you have to go under things to get to them or over things or around. It's. It's kind of crazy how they just made it more 3d then spread out over it. There feels like there's a lot more variety in the enemies that you run into and bosses that you run into. A lot of the weaponry has its own kind of identity. That's pretty neat. It's. It's with. With a game. With a game as massive as Elden Ring and has open as it is, you are bound to just run into repetitive bosses and creatures. It's just. It's bound to happen. There's too much space to spit. They'd spent how many years on building this and then how many more years on putting unique creatures in? It's not gonna happen. You know, it's. It's not. And. And I didn't have a beef with it, but I know a lot of people do. But I feel so every time I fight something different. A golden hippopotamus is a boss. Like, it's random, but it's still cool because it's me.
33:43 --> 33:44 Isn't that in toe jamming or old?
33:44 --> 33:50 It's a hippopotamus. It's a hippopotamus. It's a hippopotamus in name only.
33:50 --> 33:57 Yeah. The hipponis rat. It's got a big mouth, but an apartment, it's got a whole long. It's very long. Yeah.
33:57 --> 33:59 And it turns into a porcupine.
33:59 --> 37:06 There's. There's no. This game is still not linear. Like, it's not like dark souls. You can explore the whole thing and go wherever you want. Now, you are. You are walled off on certain areas because you have to get items to unlock stuff. But it's not like unlocking an entire castle. It's unlocking a portion of a castle or a portion of this, that and the other. So it just feels, with it being smaller, that feels like there's more to do. Does that make sense? Like, it feels more. More dense. There's been a lot of complaints about people feeling lonely or feeling like there's not a lot out there in the world as there was an elden ring, and I don't believe that to be true. Of myself, I just think the sights are beautiful. Like, I just think it's very, very. It's pretty. It's pretty to look at. It's easy on the eyes. There's dragons freaking everywhere. There's a level that's like, the top of it's like red flowers, so it's got kind of a red glow, and below that there's blue flowers, so it's got a blue glow, like, underneath that. It's. Some of the things that they've come up with are very stunning to look at. And there hasn't been a moment where I've been like, wow, I wish something would come and kill me, because that's basically what happens when you're out in the open world, you know? Um, I don't know. I. I like its verticality. I like. I like that you have to go up to go down and go around to go up and all this other stuff. I think it's really cool. But I will say that the more annoying part because of that is that I can't find myself around. So when I'm looking at the map, I just think that I could just run towards where it's at, and that's not the case. You have to find whatever path gets you down there. So I'm heading north, but I need to go northwest, then north, then east, then south to get north east that I was trying to get to. So it's got its own little puzzle that's attached to it. But I think the bosses are cool. I've really enjoyed most of the fights that I've been in. Some of them have been frustratingly hard. There's times, to be honest with you viewers and listeners, where you can't even summon. There's not enough time to summon anything into the realm to even help you. So if you're calling people out for that, you can't even do it. There's not enough time. You have to find a window in an attack that has a wind up or, like a recovery time that you can then go, okay, I can summon them now, but I have to avoid all of this crap first before I can make. I can call for help. So even I was telling Zostar, and I think Jake was there, too, I was like, I'm just going to. I'm just going to try hard, this guy, because I can't get anybody in here with me to assist me. It's not going to happen. So. And then I, you know, strategy wins because you watch and see what the. What the attacks are, and you find windows to either attack or summon or do whatever you need to do. But that's what you bought. That's what you paid for. You paid for a hard game. If you're gonna buy some from fun, from soft, it's gonna be hard. Armor core six is freaking hard. That game is no walk in the park. It's probably easier than dark souls free of. Free to fight, but it's still fucking hard. I mean, it's. It's a tough goddamn game.
37:07 --> 37:15 Shadows die twice was a ridiculous. I mean, yeah, that's what you get. That's what you get that end. Battle in shadows die twice. Dear Lord.
37:16 --> 37:17 So good.
37:17 --> 37:39 Like, when I saw the reviews for Erdtree and, like, everything was glowing, except there was two, and their complaint was that it was too hard. I'm like, how the hell. If. If somebody wants to buy an expansion to Elden Ring, an expansion they know they can't access until late in the game, why wouldn't they want it hard? Wouldn't. If it was easier or moderately difficult, wouldn't they be upset? Wouldn't they feel cheated because you want that pain?
37:39 --> 37:52 If I was just walking through the DLC, I'd be. I would be very irritated. I just told you I thought I got to mesmerize. I thought that was the last boss. I was like, there's no way I'm already here yet. There's no way that I'm already at the end of it. You just made my day by saying that.
37:52 --> 38:17 I'm pretty sure you have a lot more to go if I'm not wrong. But I can check. Laughter yeah. Beefy expansion. One thing about. So it's you can't summon. And summons is one thing that people used to complain about as being. Making the game too easy, whatever the hell that means. But the one thing that you can also summon his other players, and I don't think you. You don't do the multiplayer at all. Right, chard. I don't even think you get the signs in the ground. You don't read anything, so.
38:17 --> 38:33 Nope. I. Well, you can get the. The NPC signs on the ground, but I don't have it on. I don't have it turned on. A while back, there was a. There was a bug and it was right before Elden ring came out where people were hacking into shit and breaking into your account using, actually, their connectors. It was.
38:33 --> 38:37 DS three is letting people do remote code execution.
38:37 --> 38:37 Yeah, yeah.
38:37 --> 38:50 And I just never turned it on and then I forgot to turn it back on and you know, maybe one day I'll do PvP, but I like enjoying it on my own pace without someone coming up behind me and ganking me when I'm like trying to figure out where the hell I'm going.
38:50 --> 39:06 So I have multiplayer turned on. I haven't summoned anybody for a boss battle this time. When I first played it, I used it in a couple spots, but that's another way you can just make, make the encounters, I mean, easier to degree. It does make. When you summon an mp actual player, it does increase the boss health pool.
39:06 --> 39:08 I believe, but.
39:10 --> 39:11 Does it? Oh shit.
39:11 --> 40:12 Yeah. Maybe that's why you summoned. If there's a summon signal outside of the door and you're not on multiplayer and you summon it and this is a from stuff thing, this isn't just Elden ring, this is Dark Souls one, two and three. Sekiro didn't have any summons that I remember, but it just, that's what, that's where the balance comes from, is because you're getting help, right? So the bosses are always going to be tougher because the pool gets bigger. So the only thing that the, that the summons do for me is draw aggro. I don't care if it's doing extra damage, I don't care if it's doing anything. It's giving me room to breathe. That's, that's all that the summons in my mind do for me. Yes, they do attack and they do help from time to time, but there's times where I just, I need to pull back and see what the hell I'm doing and watch the pattern that it's doing against my, my summon and then I can go in and, you know, hit him with something hard from behind or whatever I need to do to kind of curb it, but it pulls aggro, so it makes it just easier for me to focus on what I'm doing.
40:14 --> 40:27 Good, well, I'm glad you're enjoying, I'm glad it, I'm glad this expansion is good. I'm glad it's so wildly well received. It sucks that you picked it for fantasy critics. I think this is a lot of points. I'm not wrong. It's a 40 points 94.
40:29 --> 40:32 I look today and I went, oh, I'm killing it again.
40:32 --> 41:19 It's, it's, it's, yeah, you definitely, you had some good picks. I have to look at what mine are gonna be. I'm glad it's, I'm glad it turned out really well because sometimes I worry about expansions or these, these kind of things, and I never know. And I do wonder what fromsoft will do in the future when it comes to their games. I think the. The Miyazaki said that this is as big as their team at the size can do in terms of elden ring, like just the sheer size of the map and the content, and it's so much. And they're. They're not likely to beat this in terms of scope. So I wonder, do they do an elder ring two, or do they just, you know, they go back and do a secure. But they make it more limit linear again, or are they, are they going to keep the open and world elements? Because I think he appreciates the open world, like I said before, and how people embrace that as a way to change difficulty, which I think is interesting. So I am curious they do.
41:19 --> 41:55 Next. I would love a Sekiro open world game. That would be cool. Yeah, that would be fun. Sekiro is. I'd love to see a Sekiro two. I mean, everybody wants bloodborne two to come out at some point, but I don't know if they're gonna do a Dark Souls four. He has said in the. In recent interviews that he'd like to do a traditional japanese rpg is what he would really like to do. So I don't know where that takes him. If he does something a little off the cusp than what we're used to doing with the rpg's that he. That he. That his team produces, I'd still play it. Be hard as hell, but I'd still play it.
41:56 --> 42:02 Not all their games are hard, though. What there is. They've done other stuff besides these, these tough as nails souls games.
42:02 --> 42:08 What's the cookie one that they. The. They did milk and cookies or something? Cookies and cream.
42:08 --> 42:08 Oh, yeah, yeah.
42:09 --> 42:10 Cookies and cream.
42:10 --> 42:11 Uh huh.
42:11 --> 42:19 So they've done other stuff. It just. They're being. They're almost being stereotyped or typecast as a studio that makes bullshit hard games. They don't have to be. They can do other things.
42:19 --> 42:21 Three d dot game heroes.
42:21 --> 42:28 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that also. That also isn't it. I mean, that isn't a hard game, but that's not a terribly easy game.
42:28 --> 42:29 Right.
42:29 --> 42:32 I love 3d heroes. Yeah. But, yeah.
42:34 --> 42:36 Well, I didn't mean to derail things entirely.
42:37 --> 42:45 I just. Well, I mean, the first game they did, I believe, was. Was Kingsfield, which is a dungeon crawler back in.
42:46 --> 42:49 Well, the Kingsfield games are kind of hard, too, aren't they?
42:50 --> 42:51 I heard they were, yeah.
42:51 --> 42:55 Milk and cookies, isn't exactly a slouch for difficulty.
42:56 --> 43:00 Okay, all right, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe all the games are bullshit hard. Some is cuter than others.
43:01 --> 43:01 Wow.
43:01 --> 43:06 Yeah. With a name like milk or cookies, you're like, hmm. This is a deliciously easy.
43:07 --> 43:07 Yeah.
43:07 --> 43:12 Why is the cookie attacking me? The milk's gone bad.
43:13 --> 43:15 That's right. Spoiled milk. Yeah.
43:15 --> 43:20 It's burger time, but with milk and cookies. No, just kidding.
43:21 --> 43:21 They did.
43:21 --> 43:21 Uh.
43:22 --> 43:24 Well, first off, it's cookie and cream.
43:24 --> 43:24 Yeah.
43:25 --> 43:31 Uh, eternal ring and evergrace for the PS two were both theirs. Those were pretty early rpg's for the PS two.
43:31 --> 43:32 Right.
43:32 --> 43:32 Okay.
43:32 --> 43:44 We remember we were joking that we thought Elden Ring was a spiritual successor to what? The other elder ring. Elder ring is what you just said, whichever one it was on the PS two.
43:44 --> 43:46 Oh. Eternal ring.
43:46 --> 43:51 Eternal ring. Yeah. Spiritual spiritual successor to eternal ring. It's not. Has nothing to do with it. It just has.
43:51 --> 43:55 No. It's a. It's a. It's a soulsborne for sure.
43:56 --> 44:19 Absolutely. But, yeah. Miyazaki has talked about doing a traditional japanese rpg the last time. You know, he had talked about the same thing that Jake said about he uses all the same shit that is offered to him when he plays the game, and he sucks at games, too. I've been reading a lot about Miyazaki the last couple of weeks, you know, during my downtime.
44:19 --> 44:33 I mean, I think he's. If gatekeepers want to come talk to press b to cancel, uh, come at me, bro. Because I played tunic with, like, all of the. All of the enhancements on, so come. Come at me, bro.
44:37 --> 44:40 I'm the only guy that had all the. All the things turned on still.
44:40 --> 44:41 Yeah, I'm the.
44:41 --> 46:10 I do want to call if there's any examples, other examples of gatekeeping you guys have to bring up. I have one I wanted to bring up, and it's relevant to me this year. And that's actually street Fighter six. One of the things that is pretty revolutionary for it, well, kind of is instead of. Instead of having the classic six button layout of controls, it's still there. They have a new option called modern controls, which is four buttons. And of those four buttons, basically, it's single button special moves. Right. Everybody knows from Street Fighter, you do motion inputs for the special moves. A lot of. A lot of other games have kind of moved away from that, or they've standardized the inputs, so it's always the same inputs or, like Smash Brothers style, where it's a special button in a direction input to do a special move. Street Fighter Six now has that kind of option. It's still. It's still fairly competitive, I think, actually, if you play with modern controls, you deal 20% less damage. They try and bounce it out, but you do. When you play against people on modern controls, they're more frequently doing auto combos or certain special moves. And a lot of people in that scene got upset and feel like that's not the way to play Street Fighter, which is kind of bullshit, because the other thing that came, the news recently was Marvel versus Capcom two is finally getting a re release. But I remember that game on Dreamcast for being so great for me is because there's a four button fucking fighting game. It wasn't a six button fighting game like the rest of the series was. It was four. So I like how they got that callback for Street Fighter six. That's an example of gatekeeping. People are upset when they play against players who are playing with the modern four button layout with auto combos, which has always been weird to me.
46:11 --> 46:35 There was keeping an elden ring PvP where rivers of blood was. They needed. They wanted it nerfed because it was too powerful. And everybody was running either Moonvale or rivers of blood because it killed. It was just a slice and dice weapon. So, you know, people were like, you can't fight me with that. I won't play you with like, okay, then don't. Don't come and get.
46:35 --> 46:35 Don't.
46:35 --> 46:38 Leave me alone. Leave me the fuck alone.
46:38 --> 46:41 Sorry. You hate life in games. Like, it's just so bizarre.
46:41 --> 47:10 Yeah, I think we should have. I think we should still have a larger episode on gatekeeping. We've talked about it because, like, gender gatekeeping is a whole subject. Right? I mean, that's. That's something that definitely needs to be addressed. But I don't think. I don't think this episode's the right place for it, but it is something that needs to be called out. There is a lot of gender gatekeeping, right? I mean, girl. Girl gamers aren't real gamers, right? Isn't that. Isn't that the case?
47:10 --> 47:41 Yeah. And that's. That's something I really opened my eyes as a father with three daughters, let me tell you. Right. Like, realize, well, you realize, like, how many games have female protagonists that are not, you know, dressed like, you know, I mean, nothing. There's nothing wrong with. With the skimpy plate male. I. That's fine. But when you have three kids, maybe they would have. Want heroes that actually look like, you know, heroes that. Yeah, the guy is wearing. Right. So, I mean, that's why I was kind of. Kind of a bit excited for the Zelda game that got announced. Cause I fucking love Zelda. I love the retro Zelda. You actually get to play as Zelda.
47:41 --> 47:47 How many years has Zelda's name been in the title? And now you finally get to play as her in.
47:47 --> 47:48 Not a crappy game, hopefully.
47:49 --> 47:50 Right, right.
47:50 --> 47:52 Not wand of Gamelon.
47:52 --> 48:08 No. Well, to be fair, there was the Hyrule warriors game. She was in there, and she's badass in that game. There's also Smash, who's a great character in Smash, but yeah, this is the first game that features her as a title character. And I'm. I'm all for it. Even if her. Even if her special ability is fucking summoning tables. I'll take it. It's fine. Like, she still looks really cool as hell.
48:10 --> 48:26 I do have to throw out one personal gatekeeping item. So I beat psychonauts on the original Xbox. I beat meat circus on the original hard level difficulty. When it came to PC, they nerfed the difficulty for the meat circus. Fuck everybody else.
48:28 --> 48:31 They're not real gamers. Xbox.
48:34 --> 48:37 Elden beast on my 2ft, not on my horse.
48:37 --> 48:38 That's right.
48:38 --> 48:39 Cheaters.
48:41 --> 49:01 Like, if you beat it on a harder difficulty or whatever as bragging rights, sure. But don't shit on other people's play choice. No, honestly, that's where the cutoff is. Like, honestly, I have. I. Sorry, I'm going to give it. Just I know people who, like, won't play a game if you can't play on hard right off the bat.
49:01 --> 49:01 Right?
49:01 --> 49:02 Yeah. Right.
49:02 --> 49:16 And I'm like, that's great for you. I don't want to struggle. I want to have a good time. That's why I play games. I don't play games to bang my head against the wall. I do that enough by accident. Walking around the house.
49:16 --> 49:24 I. I have. I have a job during the day. I already do work. Why do I need to do work for my games, right?
49:25 --> 49:42 And for me, this is why I don't play Animal Crossing. Because to me, animal Crossing feels like chores, but I'm not going to shit on other people playing Animal crossing. I see the appeal. I get it. It's not for me. It feels too much, like, tedious.
49:43 --> 49:48 When you're done digging all those plants out of the ocean, you mind doing the dishes? Please, for Christ's sake.
49:48 --> 50:00 As a stay at home parent, that's my day. Every day is chores. So I'm not excited about you know, it's not escapism for me. It's more of my day.
50:00 --> 50:37 So, so real quick to bring it back to the meat circus. I played psychonauts recently on the PC port, and I'll be honest with you, when I played the meat circus, I was like, am I just really good at this? Like, did, did I just learn? But no, I learned that they changed the difficulty. And at the end of it, I was like, that was so much more enjoyable because that is the only time I can maybe, maybe twice since Teresa will have to correct me. But that is definitely one time that I threw a controller. That is one of the very, very few times I threw a controller.
50:37 --> 50:40 I think that checks out. We've had that discussion before.
50:40 --> 51:48 Yeah, there's a few, there's a few games, like, where I've been replaying them. You know, I haven't played them in a long time. Mass Effect trilogy, I played, you know, of course, when they first came out, I played it on normal. I think I even played the original on hard afterwards, as well as a new game plus type thing. But when they did the. The remaster trilogy a number of years ago, I picked that up. And when I came, it came time to pick a difficulty. I picked story and difficulty. I picked the easiest difficulty. Why? Because I don't love mass effect for the gunplay. I don't like it for the combat. In fact, there are certain sequences when you. You spend ten minutes in a combat encounter and you die and you got to start from scratch. It's not fun. I'm there for the experience of the story, the music, the atmosphere. I don't necessarily want challenge in that kind of game. And it's similar with, um, I've been trying to get through Alan Wake because I want to do an Alan wake up. So, with chard, right? And anybody else wants to join a course, uh, Al awake is very cool. But when it came time to pick a difficulty, I'm like, do I pick the easy mode or do I pick normal? You know, what do I pick? I just picked easy. I'm glad I did because that's a game where there's certain sequences that are really cool, but in between is some bullshit ass combat. Yeah, if I was on a higher difficulty, I would have quit by now, whereas least now I can have power through it. But it's. It's crazy.
51:48 --> 52:11 I'm. Well, I'm. Whether I lose cred or not, I am one of the players that, more often than not, will pick the easy difficulty. Because to me, it's about the story with a. With the gameplay that, you know, and if it becomes like, I walk in the park, I. As long as I can go change it later, I'm cool. I mean, sometimes you're locked in. Right, but.
52:11 --> 52:11 Right.
52:11 --> 52:21 That's pretty rare if you're locked in. But, yeah, I'm the guy that starts the game, and I'm like, I'm going to try easy because I want to see the story. I want to see the cool shit.
52:22 --> 52:24 Yeah, sorry, wolf.
52:24 --> 52:27 Wolf. You were going to say something. I don't want to.
52:27 --> 53:17 I was, and luckily I remember I was going to say, like, difficulty levels are also, like, it's. It just varies by game. Like, I know we shit on Jake a lot about his difficulty with Kirby, but then he went and played animal well, and I played animal well, and he had a lot of fun. He didn't find it too difficult. Most of the time, I struggled like a mofo in that game. Like, it just. It. And I like 2d platformers. Just something about it didn't click with me, and so it was hard as hell for me. But, yeah, I mean, I. It's one of those things where it's like, oh, this game's not too hard, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Like, yeah, we give Jake a hard time because we think, oh, it's Kirby, it's cute, little big guy. But I mean, a game can be difficult for other people regardless of whatever. Right.
53:19 --> 53:19 It's.
53:19 --> 53:43 Sometimes the mechanics just don't click with you or, you know, certain aspects just aren't your. Your jam. And so. Yeah, but don't gatekeep it because of that. Like, that's one of the things I like that with Elden ring is you can play in a way that opens up the gameplay for you. Whereas dark souls kind of didn't offer that so much. And, you know, I saw that it made it hard.
53:43 --> 53:53 It also did something like where I think mobs don't respawn if you use the save spots too often. So it makes it even more difficult because you can't grind levels. And that's what threw me off of that series.
53:55 --> 54:15 Yeah, I bounced off of every Dark Souls game I played. And honestly, all the stuff I've read and heard about Elden ring makes me want to try it. It's just I don't have the time to sit and play that game. I have other games I already own.
54:15 --> 54:21 Or the seven or the $70 to try out and see if it's going to. If you're going to bounce.
54:21 --> 54:22 I'd enjoy it, honestly.
54:22 --> 55:02 Oh, it's worth it. Yeah, that's. Again, I can say it's worth it because I love it. You know, I. If I played animal well, I'd probably struggle with it, too. I'm not great with those kinds of games. I'm not good at the messenger. I struggle through the hell through messenger. I loved Sea of stars, which was my. My wheelhouse to play it in. You know, we all have our different stylistically games that we play. I'm the Dark Souls guy in. In our. In our team, because that just clicks with me, just works with me. It's hard as hell, but I don't have. I don't understand giving up. I can't just throw my controller down. I don't know how to do that.
55:02 --> 55:03 You're charred headed.
55:04 --> 55:44 I'm very charred headed. And it's the same thing with tunic. When everybody played tunic, they were like, this is too fucking hard. We're going to turn on the accessibility and we're going to enjoy the game while I'm sitting here stabbing my monitor with anything that I can find, because I'm like, why can't I just pass this part with easy? And literally, these guys are like, just turn on the accessibility? And I said, no, I'm going to beat this the way I know how to beat these stupid games. I'm going to do it. And I did it, but it took me twice as long it through. I forgot what happened with the damn story because I was stuck in that part for so freaking long that I had to go back and remember going on. Yeah, that whole I'll call it thing. I was stuck there. Ever.
55:44 --> 55:45 Yeah.
55:45 --> 56:01 You know, and. And I don't. And I don't. None of these guys, except for maybe sinister, do I consider not a gamer. They get their own shit. They do their own thing. I love you, sinister. They. We just. We just have different styles that work with us better.
56:01 --> 56:29 And that's actually a great example. Cause what, you. You sit there. You sat there and beat your head against that coliseum fight. I tried, and after a while, I was like, I, this ain't working. I gotta turn on something. And I don't remember what I turned on. It might have been infidel. That might have just been infinite spirit of. I don't recall anymore. But I just had to get past that part because I was so into the lore and, like, decrypting the language in this game. Like, that was my.
56:29 --> 56:31 Oh, you went fucking deep, man.
56:31 --> 56:34 And I didn't even go all that deep compared to a lot of people.
56:34 --> 57:47 But yeah, I don't know. I mean, yeah, there's some people that spent lifelines, life livelihoods to get more lore out of that game. But you came pretty damn close. I feel the same way with all of the Souls games right now in that respect of digging for lore. Listen to Vaati buying the damn books. I love that stuff. So obviously, tunic being all four of our, one of our favorite games we've ever played as a team together. That's how I feel about this is my tunic, Elden ring and this stuff is my tunic because it's exactly the kind of pace and stuff that I like. And I never imagined that I would be so in to something of this difficulty that you can't change because I remember being younger and being like, oh, this is hard. Oh, I can change it on the fly or I'm going to turn it back to normal, beat this thing, and then I'll turn it back up to hard. Like that's, you know, just, you know, I just want to get through this now. Now it's just I want to get through this and I don't have that option anymore. And I like that. I like being forced to keep doing the same thing over and over again until you learn. So that tick tock I sent you guys where it's like me going up against the boss for the 800th time, not even changing my strategies.
57:48 --> 57:55 Right, right. Or being like, I think I've learned as. I think I've learned as, uh, his, you know, his.
57:55 --> 57:57 I think I know where this is. I think I know.
57:57 --> 57:59 I think I've learned where his pattern.
57:59 --> 58:07 Oh, no, I haven't learned shit. I've only learned to hate myself a little bit more. But I always find it wild that.
58:07 --> 58:12 You like souls games, but you don't. You don't necessarily like, like the platformers. The 2d platformers that are hard as hell.
58:12 --> 58:12 I know.
58:12 --> 58:22 It's that always like, yeah, it's wild to me because messenger like Wolf and I will test is one of our favorite games I think of ever. There's at least a top 25 or 50. It's up there. And then you don't like it at all.
58:22 --> 58:23 But it's.
58:23 --> 58:24 Yeah, it's great game.
58:24 --> 58:30 I don't not like it at all. Don't get me wrong. I just. I don't worship it like you. I'm. You guys don't worship it, but you love that game.
58:30 --> 58:31 You love.
58:32 --> 58:34 And I'm like, there's so many things.
58:34 --> 58:36 About it, but I'm so pissed.
58:37 --> 58:38 Yeah, yeah.
58:38 --> 58:54 And, yeah, I respect that. They don't necessarily take charge boxes. Like, for me, it's got what, it has time travel, it has multiverse, it has Metroidvania, it has platforming, it has humor, badass music. Like, there's so many boxes, it checks for me that I'm like, yes.
58:55 --> 59:13 Oh, I'm still slow rolling the messenger, and I'm loving it. I. But I'm slow rolling it. Like, I get back to it and I play, like, 15 to 30 minutes of it, and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna bounce off of it, so I'm gonna step away, and then I come back. Right. I've been enjoying it, but I've been slow rolling it.
59:13 --> 59:17 But that's my tactic. Sinister. And I have a similar tactic with.
59:17 --> 59:18 But I agree.
59:18 --> 59:20 I dug into the messenger.
59:20 --> 59:20 Yeah.
59:20 --> 59:23 The way char digs into elden ring.
59:23 --> 59:23 Right?
59:23 --> 59:39 Yeah, right. But. But on the messenger, I agree. It has all the boxes. It is. It's a glorious game, for sure. I just. It's a struggle for me. So I just, you know, when I feel like I'm going to bounce off, I go and play something else.
59:39 --> 59:40 Right?
59:40 --> 59:46 Yeah. No, I totally recognize it's a challenge. Like, I went and did, like, the challenge stuff that was in that game.
59:46 --> 59:47 Yeah.
59:47 --> 01:00:26 And I had a blast with it. But then, you know, my buddy, he loved the game also, but he had hard points that he couldn't get past. I don't think he did the DLC. He bounced off pretty quickly with, like, the first boss because it changed up mechanics so much that he was like, nah. And I was like, I'm sorry you didn't like it. I mean, at least you didn't have to pay for it because it was free DLC. But I was like, I'm sorry you didn't like that part because I loved it, but I get it. Like, I'm not sitting there like, oh, you, you. Why? Why didn't you like it? Like, that's the thing I don't understand. Like, he enjoyed the main game, and I love that he enjoyed the main game. That gave us something to share.
01:00:26 --> 01:00:28 That's the messenger of DLC.
01:00:28 --> 01:00:29 Yeah, yeah.
01:00:29 --> 01:00:38 I never, I never finished it either, actually, for the same thing. I bounced it off early, and I always, I always want to go back and play it, but for some reason, I bounced off it, which is weird because I love the main game.
01:00:38 --> 01:00:44 I mean, that's another type of gatekeeping is that whole, you know, how dare you not like this game? That I write, right?
01:00:44 --> 01:00:46 Yeah. Yep.
01:00:46 --> 01:00:46 Yeah.
01:00:46 --> 01:00:55 And I. And I find myself backpedaling on that a lot because there are people that are. They don't love the game that I'm playing. But I'm like, but. But why?
01:00:55 --> 01:00:57 But it's awesome. Look at it.
01:00:57 --> 01:00:57 But why?
01:00:57 --> 01:00:58 Look at it.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:58 Just.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:59 Why this?
01:00:59 --> 01:00:59 Would you.
01:00:59 --> 01:01:00 It's.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:01 Would you just look good?
01:01:01 --> 01:01:02 Look at this.
01:01:02 --> 01:01:10 I mean, don't get me wrong. Like, I get why people like the Dark Souls franchise. They're not for me. I can't enjoy them.
01:01:10 --> 01:01:12 Explain it best. Everybody has that internal checklist.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:18 Understand, you know, that. That masochism that people have. Like, there's something there.
01:01:19 --> 01:01:19 Yeah.
01:01:20 --> 01:01:23 No, there's nothing there. That's the problem. We're filling it with. With pain and stuff.
01:01:23 --> 01:01:29 Yeah, that's what I mean. Like, there's something there that's, like, I need. It's the same with going into a brand new game.
01:01:30 --> 01:01:35 At least I'm not overeating. Okay? I'm playing dark souls instead of being fat.
01:01:35 --> 01:01:42 I really think Chard wants everybody to love Elden ring. Because misery loves company. Because misery loves company.
01:01:42 --> 01:01:49 I think I would. And that's a problem because I don't. I don't want to spend the money on something I won't play for five years or more.
01:01:49 --> 01:01:54 Like 300 hours of free time. No, but none of us have. Because it's another one of those. Right. Right.
01:01:54 --> 01:02:13 For me, it's been a struggle to beat. What's it called? I rush. I've been playing through hi fi rush, but every level is, like, an hour long. And I'm like, it's. It's. For me, it gets. A one level gets broken up into, you know, two to five sessions most of the time.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:16 Does it play. Go ahead.
01:02:16 --> 01:02:17 Go ahead.
01:02:17 --> 01:02:20 And I was gonna say, does it play on the steam deck?
01:02:20 --> 01:02:22 Oh, it's great. On the steam deck.
01:02:22 --> 01:02:22 Okay.
01:02:22 --> 01:02:25 Constantly posit, sleep, come back later.
01:02:25 --> 01:02:29 Exactly. You've got your own save. You've got your own save points.
01:02:29 --> 01:02:59 Yeah. So that's what I'm doing. And the game isn't even all that hard. It's like, I can see, like, if you can't handle the timing, I can understand where there would be difficulty for people, but I'm like, the music has the beats going, so as long as you have sound and you don't even really need sound, it has, like, accessibility options where you can turn on a little beat timer on the bottom so you know when the beats are, even if you don't have sound. And honestly, your little cat, 808 is floating next to you also showing those beats constantly.
01:03:00 --> 01:03:01 The cat's name is 808.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:02 Yeah.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:06 Oh, my God. That's a. Is that a reference? Yes, it is.
01:03:06 --> 01:03:06 Okay.
01:03:06 --> 01:03:13 An 808 is a. Is a type of drum machine that was used. I think Trent Reznor actually used it to do close. Aha.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:19 We've used 808s in my nine Inch Nails is the first boss music and the last boss music. So.
01:03:20 --> 01:03:32 Okay. Yeah, you can at me if you want to on that, but I'm pretty sure it's. That's. We used an 808 mini. It's like a drum machine, essentially. The 808 drum machine. That's the joke was like, I could fucking write a song with an 808. And he did, and he wrote closer.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:49 But, yeah, like, I can see the game not clicking with people, which I would be sad about it because the story, the, the acting, like, the cut, the sense of humor in the game is all top tier.
01:03:50 --> 01:03:50 Yeah.
01:03:50 --> 01:04:07 But if you don't click with a rhythm based game, it's just not gonna hit for you. Which is like, I can understand that. It makes me sad because I want to share this game with friends, but I think he would love it if. I think he would love the story. I don't think you would enjoy the gameplay.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:08 Right.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:16 I want to share the story of the Witcher three and the dlcs with charred. But he keeps saying he will never play that game.
01:04:16 --> 01:04:28 I'm not sure. Not right now. Not right now. I will get to it at some point. I have it. I have purchased it. I have all the dlcs. I will play it eventually. I just have, I'm too much on my list that I want to play first.
01:04:28 --> 01:04:45 So happy, sinister play through those. And I. And I know it's a big ask, right? It's like, yes, the main game is good, but yeah, after the hundred hours we get to the DLC. DLC is so worth it. The whole game is worth it. But I really love blood and wine, and I'm glad you guys, you liked it as well. And I wish everybody would experience this game.
01:04:45 --> 01:05:07 The first DLC, I very nearly bounced. I know we're going total segue, but I very nearly bounced off of the first DLC. I'm glad I stuck with it because the end of the first DLC was amazingly good. And then the final DLC was, was, was epic in its own right. I mean, yeah, yeah. Anyway, I can.
01:05:08 --> 01:05:33 We can loop it back around and say, because Jake is now replaying Elden ring. Now I'm happy that he's giving it a shot and he's progressing in it, which is awesome. So now he gets to. He gets to live with me in this. This world of lore that is written in all the armor and spells and people that you meet. And now I got somebody to. To talk about it with other than telling me to stop being greedy.
01:05:35 --> 01:05:36 Go ahead, wolf.
01:05:36 --> 01:05:37 Go.
01:05:37 --> 01:05:49 I was gonna say. And that's what I don't understand about gatekeeping, because gatekeeping, like, where is the fun in that? You're. You're putting your hand up in front of people and saying, no, don't enjoy this thing unless you enjoy it a specific way.
01:05:49 --> 01:05:51 Instead of my game, but love it my way.
01:05:51 --> 01:05:53 Enjoy this thing with me.
01:05:53 --> 01:05:53 Yeah.
01:05:53 --> 01:05:54 Right.
01:05:55 --> 01:06:06 Baldur's gate three is the. Is the ultimate example of, like, how gatekeeping is, like, because everybody enjoys that game differently, because.
01:06:06 --> 01:06:07 Right.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:10 Every. You make. Makes a different pathway. Right.
01:06:10 --> 01:06:16 I mean, like, there were still people complaining about the save scumming, right? People are like, oh, you save scum. Oh, you're not playing it right.
01:06:18 --> 01:06:21 Why is it in the game? Why is it there?
01:06:22 --> 01:06:26 Why did they allow me to save mid fight? Like, why?
01:06:26 --> 01:06:26 Yeah.
01:06:26 --> 01:06:27 If.
01:06:27 --> 01:06:28 Yeah. Anyway, yeah.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:37 I mean, it would be like. It would be like. It would be like, telling it. It kind of reminds me of the soup Nazi.
01:06:37 --> 01:06:37 Yeah.
01:06:38 --> 01:06:41 If you don't enjoy it, how I give it to you, you don't get to enjoy it. Right.
01:06:41 --> 01:06:42 Yeah.
01:06:42 --> 01:06:45 Whereas, like, okay, I love a good mexican street taco.
01:06:46 --> 01:06:46 Right?
01:06:46 --> 01:07:00 One of the ingredients on a good mexican street taco for me is cilantro. Not everybody likes cilantro. Some people, it tastes like soap. That sucks. But I would say get it without cilantro. Still enjoy the damn street taco because it's good.
01:07:01 --> 01:07:05 Your accessibility option is whether or not you use cilantro.
01:07:05 --> 01:07:10 But you don't. You don't. You don't throw in that jab at the end where you're like, yeah, you can get a street talk without cilantro.
01:07:11 --> 01:07:13 How. How was your not street taco?
01:07:13 --> 01:07:16 How was your non street taco?
01:07:16 --> 01:07:19 It's. It's still gonna be good. Like, there are some people.
01:07:19 --> 01:07:20 Lies.
01:07:21 --> 01:07:23 I don't enjoy chili with beans in it.
01:07:24 --> 01:07:25 Okay. And I love it.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:42 Yeah. And that's fine. But I don't like beans, so I don't like chili with beans. Like, that's my. That's one of my things. But I'm still gonna love, like, I'll try a chili with beans sometimes. It's good most of the time. I'd rather not have the beans. That's my accessibility option. Is chili without beans.
01:07:44 --> 01:07:46 Is that a retrogenitive bean free mode?
01:07:47 --> 01:07:56 Bean free run carnage. That's what that is. No match with three beans in my fucking chili. Three different styles of beans in my chili.
01:07:56 --> 01:08:01 Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm all about the three bean chili. Yeah, for sure.
01:08:01 --> 01:08:40 So I think to wrap it up for the. For the week is, honestly, is the best, the greatest gaming. Gaming times with gaming I've had over the last number of years are those games that are, like, the water cooler talk games, the games that you can talk with friends, either here on the podcast of you guys offline or my coworkers, the games that are water clear moments. And, yes, tunic is definitely one of those. Right. And that's why I was glad when Wolf picked up animal well, is because that's another game I want to talk about to somebody and just share the experience. But there's games where it's just better when more people play it. And why is more people playing a game that you love a bad thing and it's not. They may not play the way you do. That's fine. Right?
01:08:40 --> 01:08:41 Yeah, it's.
01:08:42 --> 01:08:47 It's a shared experience, which is always, like, generally, people enjoy a shared experience.
01:08:47 --> 01:08:48 Yeah.
01:08:48 --> 01:08:56 It's. It's more success, better sales numbers for this thing you enjoy, which results in more things like this.
01:08:58 --> 01:08:59 Yeah.
01:08:59 --> 01:09:05 Yeah. Like, there's. There's no downside to having the holding the gate open for people and letting them in.
01:09:06 --> 01:09:06 Yep.
01:09:06 --> 01:09:12 There's only downsides for gatekeeping. And it's so stupid to me to pair.
01:09:12 --> 01:09:18 Well, no. To actually quote my father, father of sinister. Get over yourself.
01:09:20 --> 01:09:23 Get over it. Get over it.
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01:10:13 --> 01:10:30 No. I have been playing through hi fi rush. I beat it. I worked through the extra content, and now there's even more extra content that I just unlocked. And it's not just like, do more stuff, it's actually unlocks more plot, which I'm excited about. So that's been pretty cool.
01:10:30 --> 01:10:34 I think you and I are going to do an episode on high Fries Rush. Um, actually, maybe next week.
01:10:34 --> 01:10:41 I would absolutely love to do that. Um, something else. Oh, yeah. I've been playing escape the backrooms, which.
01:10:41 --> 01:10:42 Okay.
01:10:42 --> 01:10:44 Holy crap. That game is enormous.
01:10:44 --> 01:10:45 Oh, is it? I have.
01:10:45 --> 01:10:51 Oh, my gosh. We've, my buddy and I have put 9 hours into it so far, and we don't see the end yet.
01:10:51 --> 01:10:52 You haven't escaped.
01:10:52 --> 01:10:57 That's like, we're picking up, like, the file where we left off last week and still going.
01:10:57 --> 01:11:00 Oh, okay, I gotta get that.
01:11:00 --> 01:11:16 And it's early access, so they're still adding content. So if you like a good scary game and it's, it's not just like, crap your pants scary, like, inside the backrooms was, which we played like. And let me be specific. This is escape the backrooms I'm talking about. None of the other.
01:11:16 --> 01:11:17 Right.
01:11:17 --> 01:11:17 Right.
01:11:19 --> 01:11:26 The variation in experiences throughout the game that we've seen so far is wild to me.
01:11:26 --> 01:11:27 Nice.
01:11:28 --> 01:11:45 Sometimes it's puzzle solving. Sometimes it's keep out of sight of the monster. Sometimes it's a combination of both. Sometimes it's something else entirely. And it's just been really cool. Lots of fun. And we've had a few good jump scares where we just scream like children and run away.
01:11:47 --> 01:11:47 Nice.
01:11:48 --> 01:11:58 All right, great. I think I sleep. I think I slept in that franchise. I should have taken out more, um, sinister. How about you? What have you been doing? I know you've been doing quite a lot of twitch stuff lately.
01:11:58 --> 01:12:11 Yeah. So my alternate Twitch account. And there's a reason why, uh, the Twitch has introduced this whole dj thing, or is introducing this whole dj thing, but DJ Spinistar. Thank you. Charred for that one.
01:12:11 --> 01:12:12 Such a good name.
01:12:12 --> 01:12:50 Um, on Twitch, uh, Mondays and Tuesdays, I do my own stuff. On Saturdays, I do stuff with solar cake. But, uh, I've been having a blast with that. And then on my own time, I have the ultimate dad win. My oldest for Father's Day got me number of the beast on vinyl, Iron Maiden. And my youngest got me thousand year door. So I've started playing thousand year door. I thought I'd played it before. I'm not remembering any of it. It's fantastic. The humor in thousand year door is great. Yeah. So that's not. I'm not doing that on stream or anything, but I'm just basically, maybe we'll have a. Maybe we'll have a podcast on thousand year door.
01:12:51 --> 01:12:54 I gotta dust mine off. I haven't played that in fucking years.
01:12:56 --> 01:13:00 Chart, how about you? What have you been doing besides Erdtree?
01:13:01 --> 01:14:13 I think we discussed everything that I'm doing currently. Now, I've been playing a lot of Erdtree. Obviously, I'm in love with this game. I think it's fantastic. I wanted to caveat before we ended it. It is difficult. It is very hard. But it's designed to be that way. And you play the game however you deem it necessary to get where you want to get to the game. Don't let anybody gatekeep you or tell you you can't do something if it's in the damn game. Just let yourself do it. Have fun with it. It is a challenge, and it will be a challenge. And the feeling of beating something that you've been fighting 800 times and finally conquering it is one of the best feelings in the world. And that's probably why I like these, because the dopamine hit you get when you finally beat that boss, you've been beaten up. That's kicking the shit out of you for hours is just off the charts. And it's not. There's nothing worse. When I. I'm sorry. I'm going on tangent here, but when I. When I lost to the. I lost in one to the golden hippo, it was like someone stole my sneeze from me. It was so, like, disappointing because I won, but I also died in a really died fashion right there. Like, I don't care. We did it. It was like, no, no, I don't want to count that one. I want to do that again. So.
01:14:13 --> 01:14:21 So what you're saying. What you're saying, chart, is your aspect of life is the beatings will continue until the dopamine hits.
01:14:21 --> 01:15:00 Until the dopamine hits. Exactly. As soon as that dopamine hits, you got to get it back backed up, you know? Um, once we're done with Erdtree, then I have my. My dream of starting the RCU, which is the remedy connected universe, which is Alan Wake, quantum, quantum break, control, Alan Wake two, and then the newly dropped Allen Wake DLC that has the characters from control, quantum break and Alan Wake two in it. So there's some cool shit that's coming down the pipeline that I'll be streaming. And I'm getting the itch to play armor core six again. So you might see that again. I don't know. We'll see what happens. But that's fromsoft does that to me. Once I'm done with the other one, I got to find the new drug that's in from sock.
01:15:00 --> 01:15:00 That's right.
01:15:00 --> 01:15:02 Gotta beat myself on something else.
01:15:03 --> 01:15:42 Well, there's always was a cookies and cream, right? There's always that game for myself. I've been mostly guesting other podcasts. Do check out to remember 64. I was with Jiggy look back and Dave. That's his show where he talked about Superman 64 a couple of weeks back. That was a fun time. Fun time. Shitty game. It was a good conversation. He's been doing some clips on tick tock of us as well. Retro. Retro wars UK. Danny. I've done a few episodes for him. I don't think they've all come out yet. That guy backlogs like you would not believe. He's got like 50 episodes in the bank. We should do that so he can take a year off.
01:15:42 --> 01:15:43 We have one. Okay.
01:15:44 --> 01:16:23 He's got 50. Like this guy could disappear off the grid for a year and still be pumping out content. I really respect the guy's hustle with podcasting. I'm recording one with him tomorrow. It comes out sometime this year, I think. But his show is really great. He's done some really great guests lately. He had Justin Wong on for one. He also had what's his name? Alan Blank from remember me podcast, which is also one I like to listen to, fellow Canadian. So I'm definitely doing that. I'm also trying to record stuff on the side, but I just have not a lot of time because of Elden ring. Because that's a time record your elder ring. Nobody wants to see me face rolling elden ring for 4 hours against the boss.
01:16:23 --> 01:16:33 That's not watch me do it either. But guess what? People show up sometimes just. Just have fun and do it maybe and put it up on the screen. I'll be there.
01:16:34 --> 01:16:42 I'll tell you why I'm playing the three again though, is honestly, it runs on the steam deck charge so good. And it looks, still looks great on the steam deck. I'm amazed. And even the battery life is okay.
01:16:42 --> 01:16:51 I think I saw a steam deck drop recently. Like. Well, I think. And I think I saw that they're allowing recording.
01:16:52 --> 01:16:54 Oh, game recording maybe.
01:16:54 --> 01:16:55 Yeah.
01:16:55 --> 01:16:58 Oh, stop. I don't know that's going to open up windows.
01:16:58 --> 01:16:59 Maybe.
01:16:59 --> 01:17:00 Yeah.
01:17:00 --> 01:17:04 All right, folks, that's been a show. This has been pressed me to cancel. Thanks, everybody.