Press B 209: Absolutely WTF Weird Games

[00:00:00] So, um, mosquitoes and collecting balls of garbage and space stations.

[00:00:08] Hey guys, what the fuck are we talking about today on?

[00:00:33] Hey everybody.

[00:00:33] Welcome to another episode of Press B To Cancel, your favorite podcast that

[00:00:38] talks about whatever we want.

[00:00:42] That's what today is all about.

[00:00:44] Today I'm joined by three of my best friends.

[00:00:47] Uh, Wolf, how are you today?

[00:00:50] I am well, thank you.

[00:00:53] Awesome.

[00:00:53] Awesome.

[00:00:54] Uh, GP, how about you?

[00:00:56] I am doing great.

[00:00:58] Thank you for having me.

[00:00:59] And last and certainly not least Jake, how are you?

[00:01:04] I'm doing great.

[00:01:05] I just beat animal well last week.

[00:01:07] So that's like at least three games I've beaten this year.

[00:01:11] I'm just winning all the games, all the gaming goals I set out this year.

[00:01:15] I was nailing them, just nailing them.

[00:01:17] It's great.

[00:01:18] Couldn't be better.

[00:01:19] Yeah.

[00:01:20] Uh, when you get to six games, what let, let us know.

[00:01:27] I got lost that months, months ago.

[00:01:29] Really?

[00:01:30] Months.

[00:01:31] Yeah.

[00:01:33] Something about six, there's something about six and I don't know what it is.

[00:01:37] Anyway, no.

[00:01:38] So everybody welcome in.

[00:01:39] We are talking about games that are strange.

[00:01:46] I think that's probably the best way to define them.

[00:01:49] You know, you have a number of genres that are well defined and well known

[00:01:54] platformers, you know, you've got a whole subset of those puzzle games,

[00:01:59] you know, et cetera, RPGs today we're talking about.

[00:02:03] Well, let's see.

[00:02:03] We're going to talk about, I think eight games that are hard to define.

[00:02:09] I think, uh, without further ado, maybe we just roll.

[00:02:14] I think GP first.

[00:02:16] How about, uh, how about you start with your runner up?

[00:02:19] Okay.

[00:02:20] So runner up is my runner up because I don't really have much to say about

[00:02:26] it because I just, you look at it and you're like, WTF, like who put this

[00:02:31] together?

[00:02:31] Why?

[00:02:31] What was the idea?

[00:02:33] Uh, and, and is there a plot?

[00:02:35] Is there an ending?

[00:02:36] I think the answer to all of the above is no.

[00:02:39] And that game of course, Ballotro.

[00:02:41] I'm kidding.

[00:02:44] Son of a bitch.

[00:02:45] I don't have that video.

[00:02:48] And the pranks keep coming.

[00:02:51] Also for anybody watching and playing along at home.

[00:02:54] Yes, I have a green screen and I've decided the image on my green

[00:02:57] screen will be another green screen.

[00:02:59] So we're doing levels here.

[00:03:01] Um, so no, the game is getting over it.

[00:03:06] Oh, good pick.

[00:03:08] Good pick.

[00:03:10] Okay.

[00:03:10] You're a guy in a cauldron with a pickaxe climbing a mountain.

[00:03:14] We got it's impossible and the mountain never ends.

[00:03:18] At least to my knowledge how it happened.

[00:03:20] There is probably a plot.

[00:03:21] There is probably a backstory.

[00:03:24] I haven't looked into it because that game captured my intention long

[00:03:28] enough for me to scratch my head and move on.

[00:03:30] Uh, I think about it sometimes.

[00:03:32] And every time I think I'm going to look up the plot and the

[00:03:35] history and all that I decide not to, because one of two things,

[00:03:38] sometimes the mystery is more fun than knowing, but two, maybe

[00:03:42] knowing would make it even more WTF.

[00:03:44] And I don't have the brain grapes to be able to process, uh,

[00:03:49] what exactly that means.

[00:03:50] So getting over it is my backup.

[00:03:53] So I have never played this game, but I have watched it so many times.

[00:03:58] I want to tell you who my favorite, you know, YouTube personality or

[00:04:02] Twitch streamer or whatever the plate it is, and I can't, although I will say.

[00:04:08] Markiplier doing it just sticks in my brain watching Markiplier, you know?

[00:04:15] Anyway, um, no, it, it, I have, I have never played this and

[00:04:20] I've never been willing to buy it, but I've always wondered just how janky

[00:04:25] those controls are because everybody talks about the controls are just super jank.

[00:04:32] I, I owe you like four games on steam now that you've given me.

[00:04:37] Oh no, we're going to make it three.

[00:04:39] Also, I have not tendered my resin, my resignation for the podcast, but if

[00:04:45] ever I choose my Sisyphean game to be getting over it, uh, just know that

[00:04:50] it's coming so yeah, although maybe that's my reason to stay on.

[00:04:56] Yeah.

[00:04:56] Oh, it does.

[00:04:57] Yeah.

[00:04:58] Okay.

[00:04:58] There's an ending.

[00:05:00] I apparently have this.

[00:05:03] There is that is perfect.

[00:05:05] That, that proves the point that you own and didn't even know you owned.

[00:05:10] Not only is it a what the fuck game, it's a why the fuck do I own this game?

[00:05:14] I've apparently had minutes.

[00:05:19] I guess that was enough for me.

[00:05:21] It made you so angry.

[00:05:22] You repressed it.

[00:05:25] Yeah.

[00:05:26] Put it on your mind.

[00:05:27] Yeah.

[00:05:28] Fuck this game.

[00:05:28] We're done.

[00:05:29] Even now learning that there is a finale or an ending to the game.

[00:05:33] I can't imagine the payoff is worth the investment of time and tears.

[00:05:40] Other than after having watched a bunch of it, and I don't think

[00:05:44] I've ever watched to the end, but having watched a bunch of it, the,

[00:05:48] the little like word bites that come in and it talks through things like that

[00:05:55] is almost worth the game itself.

[00:05:58] Like those are so like, and you're like, why the hell is this quote matter?

[00:06:03] And then all of a sudden you're like, ah, I see why that quote matters here.

[00:06:07] Okay.

[00:06:07] I got it.

[00:06:08] I'm going to buy you this game sinister, but I'm going to wait

[00:06:11] until I find it on Groupon just to add.

[00:06:19] Does Groupon still exist?

[00:06:21] Yeah.

[00:06:21] Is it still around?

[00:06:23] Are they?

[00:06:23] We got scammed off of one here.

[00:06:24] I'm just saying something equivalent.

[00:06:27] Groupon, we're looking for sponsorship Groupon.

[00:06:32] I think it still existed about a year ago.

[00:06:36] I don't know if it still does now.

[00:06:39] So you know the guy who made this game?

[00:06:41] Do you know what other game he made GP?

[00:06:43] Who?

[00:06:44] He made QWOP.

[00:06:45] Remember QWOP?

[00:06:46] Oh.

[00:06:48] Are you saying Co-op?

[00:06:50] No, QWOP.

[00:06:52] I've never heard of this game.

[00:06:54] What the fuck is QWOP?

[00:06:56] You never played QWOP?

[00:06:57] It's a game where you're a track runner.

[00:06:59] I've never heard those letters put together in that order until today.

[00:07:03] QWOP is the browser game where you're a track runner and you have a different

[00:07:07] key for every limb in the body and you have to like clumsily hit all the

[00:07:10] buttons to move.

[00:07:12] When you play QWOP and then you play Ben Ifadi's getting over it, it kind

[00:07:15] of, it kind of tracks.

[00:07:17] There's one like mechanically that kind of reminds me of getting over it and

[00:07:21] you're like a one-armed meatball.

[00:07:24] You guys, and you're like escaping this lab.

[00:07:28] A meatball?

[00:07:29] My son plays it.

[00:07:30] Yeah.

[00:07:30] Let me, let me see if I can.

[00:07:32] So we're not just talking about eight WTF games.

[00:07:35] We're now up to 10.

[00:07:37] It's all right.

[00:07:38] I have to mention every game I can think of so that I can still charge.

[00:07:42] I know he's not here, but tradition is tradition.

[00:07:47] I don't know.

[00:07:47] I'm with you, Sinister.

[00:07:48] I've seen people play this.

[00:07:50] I've seen their souls get sucked out of their bodies in real time, especially

[00:07:54] because this is a game where like you climb up and you can see when they make

[00:07:57] progress for a good like five minutes and they're so happy and then one tiny

[00:08:02] mistake and they just fall and fall and fall.

[00:08:06] And it's, it's built, it's built so that like at any given point you

[00:08:11] will fall back to the beginning.

[00:08:13] Yes.

[00:08:14] Yeah.

[00:08:14] You can totally lose everything.

[00:08:15] Just everything.

[00:08:17] All your progress just, just gone.

[00:08:19] And it's, it's I'll never play this game because I would throw so many

[00:08:24] controllers are nice, but it's a great watch.

[00:08:28] Do you own it though?

[00:08:30] Sick Jake.

[00:08:32] Um, I think I do actually.

[00:08:35] I'm just not fair where I think I might have on the Twitch store.

[00:08:40] Maybe I can get it for chart.

[00:08:41] Cause I think I found a group on for a twofer.

[00:08:47] Squad goals.

[00:08:47] We're all going to play co-op.

[00:08:49] I mean, like this is a wheel of pain game.

[00:08:51] It's honestly what I would do.

[00:08:52] Yeah.

[00:08:56] Quads.

[00:09:01] Have you not recently lost your voice from screaming?

[00:09:04] Uh, I think, I think we're going to rename the podcast to press B to get

[00:09:07] over it.

[00:09:09] Yeah.

[00:09:10] Press B to quam.

[00:09:11] Yeah.

[00:09:12] Yeah.

[00:09:13] Okay.

[00:09:13] So I feel like maybe we should explain a little bit about

[00:09:15] Yes.

[00:09:16] Getting over it.

[00:09:17] The mechanics.

[00:09:18] Yeah.

[00:09:19] So you're, you're a dude hanging out at a pot and you got a big old hammer.

[00:09:24] It's a cauldron.

[00:09:25] You can see it.

[00:09:26] Well, okay.

[00:09:27] So it's your, the upper half of this man's body is poking out of the

[00:09:30] cauldron.

[00:09:31] So one is to assume that his lower half is mangled into the cauldron and

[00:09:35] stuck there or welded to it or something.

[00:09:38] I don't know.

[00:09:39] And he's using his, his hammer to motion his way around.

[00:09:44] He uses it as a way to grab as a launching mechanism and the controls on

[00:09:51] the hammer, it doesn't, you can't move the hammer left or right.

[00:09:55] It moves in essentially a circle at all times.

[00:10:00] Right.

[00:10:00] Right.

[00:10:00] Yeah.

[00:10:01] Following the mouse or what direction you press on the analog controller.

[00:10:05] If you're playing with a controller.

[00:10:08] And so you kind of have to very gingerly sometimes work these

[00:10:13] mechanics to let you get from A to B.

[00:10:18] And you're climbing a pile of garbage for most of it.

[00:10:23] It's a floating junkyard.

[00:10:26] No, he laughed and left.

[00:10:31] He was there.

[00:10:32] He's okay.

[00:10:33] He's back.

[00:10:34] He got over it.

[00:10:35] He got over it.

[00:10:36] He got over it.

[00:10:37] So here's the thing.

[00:10:39] You, but have you ever played human fall flat and said, no, these controls are too

[00:10:43] accurate that physics makes too much sense getting over it's for you.

[00:10:49] Well, and so yeah, to, to, to expand your climbing this pile of garbage and

[00:10:56] it's built essentially almost entirely vertically.

[00:11:01] And, and so at any given point, if you, if you, and I know that there's a

[00:11:06] little bit of non vertical, but at any given point, if you, if you move the,

[00:11:11] the hammer just the wrong way or just too much, you fly off and you generally

[00:11:20] fly all the way back to the beginning.

[00:11:23] And there are like overhangs and you're pulling yourself up with

[00:11:27] a hammer on an overhang.

[00:11:30] Yeah.

[00:11:30] Makes no sense.

[00:11:32] It is genuinely just WTF.

[00:11:35] Yeah.

[00:11:35] But it exists and it's something people have played enough to beat.

[00:11:39] And so I guess for that reason it, or they deserve our respect.

[00:11:44] Right.

[00:11:44] That's all I have.

[00:11:45] That's all I have.

[00:11:46] That's my extent of knowledge of the game.

[00:11:49] GP, did you play this one then for a little bit or you just, just watching

[00:11:53] other people play?

[00:11:53] I give it the old college try in that I got drunk immediately and went home crying.

[00:12:00] Yeah, this is, um, before anybody comes after me, I ubered.

[00:12:03] I went through four controllers.

[00:12:05] I did my time.

[00:12:08] I put in the effort, the hard yards.

[00:12:10] Yeah.

[00:12:11] You uninstall and reinstall it at least three times.

[00:12:14] Yes.

[00:12:15] Yeah.

[00:12:15] Yeah.

[00:12:16] Is there a sixth, the sixth edition of this?

[00:12:19] It's so this game is super popular or I mean, it was a meme game like

[00:12:23] five, six years ago when it first came out.

[00:12:24] I mean, every, every big streamer, every YouTuber was playing this game.

[00:12:27] Yeah.

[00:12:28] Um, there's been spin-offs that have tried to kind of re recreate

[00:12:31] it in a three D version, but nobody's, nobody's been able to pull it off.

[00:12:35] There's another one that's been popular more recently that was the dude

[00:12:40] climbing with his left and right hand and the rest of his body just kind

[00:12:44] of dangles below him.

[00:12:47] Yeah.

[00:12:47] It's, yeah, I don't remember what that was called though.

[00:12:50] So it's an interesting idea and very unique.

[00:12:53] Like, I mean this, again, this is a guy who made quop and quop is one

[00:12:55] of a kind, no, nobody's going to copy quop.

[00:12:57] At least this game is like feels beatable.

[00:13:00] Whereas quop was like, it just, you know, insanity.

[00:13:04] You keep saying this word and every single time in my brain, it's like.

[00:13:10] Quop, just quop.

[00:13:12] We need a sound effect.

[00:13:13] That's what we need.

[00:13:14] This is a good pick GP.

[00:13:15] This is definitely, this is definitely like, why is he in a cauldron?

[00:13:18] Why has he got a sledgehammer?

[00:13:20] Yeah.

[00:13:20] Why am I, why would he just crawl out?

[00:13:22] Why am I climbing a wall of garbage?

[00:13:26] And what did I care any less about it?

[00:13:29] All I know is I am, I will be doing this for Halloween this year

[00:13:31] and I hope people get it.

[00:13:33] I mean, it's basically a modern take on Sisyphus, right?

[00:13:37] Yes.

[00:13:38] Exactly what it is.

[00:13:39] Yeah.

[00:13:40] Well stated.

[00:13:42] Okay.

[00:13:44] All right.

[00:13:44] Good pick.

[00:13:45] Yeah, for sure.

[00:13:46] Who's that kid stuck on the slide forever?

[00:13:51] Well, he's, he's too busy watching cauldron guy.

[00:13:56] Okay.

[00:13:57] Okay.

[00:13:57] Well that great pick.

[00:13:59] Absolutely great pick.

[00:14:01] Who wants to go next?

[00:14:03] I can go next.

[00:14:04] Okay.

[00:14:05] Sure.

[00:14:06] All right.

[00:14:06] Well, I'm going to start with space channel five and I think I've talked

[00:14:10] about this in passing before, but never as a focal point.

[00:14:15] So space channel five, you can kind of classify it.

[00:14:21] It boils down to being a really weird rhythm game.

[00:14:25] But it was also before rhythm games were weird, right?

[00:14:31] At this time when rhythm games were out, you had stuff like per

[00:14:34] rap of the rapper was the first one probably, or one of the earliest.

[00:14:38] And then, you know, we got a slew of DDRs and knockoffs of that.

[00:14:42] Plus the groove I think it was things like that.

[00:14:46] But this one was like, they decided they were just going to be really

[00:14:52] weird with it and make you a reporter for a news channel in the future during

[00:15:00] an alien invasion where the aliens, I guess you have to dance at them

[00:15:06] and sing at them to distract them.

[00:15:08] Or they're making everybody else dance.

[00:15:11] I don't really remember exactly what was going on.

[00:15:13] So it was guardians of the galaxy before guardians of the galaxy existed.

[00:15:18] Kind of.

[00:15:19] To dance and dance off the universe to dance off, bro.

[00:15:22] I was going to say they look surprisingly like the Among Us characters in a lot of ways.

[00:15:27] So I guess the among us, but I can see the influence from Among Us pulling

[00:15:32] from this game for sure, like with the goggles and the multicolored aliens.

[00:15:36] And it just it's got an aesthetic to it.

[00:15:38] I do dig it.

[00:15:39] I don't think I've played this one though.

[00:15:42] The visual style of this is very the Jetsons.

[00:15:46] Yeah, yeah.

[00:15:47] I really dug in hard on that like super futuristic 50s look 60s look, I guess.

[00:15:56] But yeah, it's this is such a bizarre game and I love it.

[00:16:00] And the little guys, they like tell you what to push and then you have to push that.

[00:16:05] And she like zaps them every now and then or, you know, they just lose and

[00:16:11] just melt away.

[00:16:13] It's very strange, but it gets even weirder because at a point

[00:16:17] Michael Jackson shows up in this game.

[00:16:20] What?

[00:16:21] He's space Michael.

[00:16:23] Michael Jackson is in Space Channel five as Space Michael.

[00:16:27] There is a precedence for this if you've seen the Michael and Janet music video for screen,

[00:16:33] which was awesome.

[00:16:34] I have.

[00:16:34] So yeah, I'll buy into that.

[00:16:36] That's fine.

[00:16:36] That one gets past for me.

[00:16:38] Tangentially, that goes back to one of my favorite games, Zillion, because they used scenes of the

[00:16:45] anime Zillion in the scream music video.

[00:16:48] I also want to point out that everybody was like, finally, we're going to have a music video

[00:16:53] that proves that Michael and Janet aren't the same person.

[00:16:56] And then they were never in the same scene together, except for like via CGI.

[00:17:01] So everybody was like, nope, they're still the same person.

[00:17:04] Yeah, I'm trying to find Michael Jackson in the video.

[00:17:07] And I can't.

[00:17:08] This is this.

[00:17:09] This is going to bug me because that could end.

[00:17:10] That could have been the thumbnail.

[00:17:11] Wolf.

[00:17:12] If I'd known this, I would have done that as a thumbnail.

[00:17:14] Oh, found it.

[00:17:15] Oh, my God.

[00:17:16] That is space Michael Jackson.

[00:17:18] Nope.

[00:17:18] Bring him back.

[00:17:20] We're on rewind the tape.

[00:17:22] Give us space, Michael.

[00:17:24] Yep.

[00:17:24] There he is.

[00:17:25] I like that you said, you know, you had games like per app of the rapper and you

[00:17:30] treated them like they were normal and not WTF.

[00:17:34] The rapper.

[00:17:35] I don't think I feel like for app of the rapper wasn't quite as bizarre as this.

[00:17:40] Like it was it was unusual for sure.

[00:17:43] It's pretty it's pretty out there.

[00:17:46] I see people with onions for heads all the time.

[00:17:49] Yeah, and they teach you how to rap and do karate at the same time.

[00:17:54] That's totally legit.

[00:17:56] I don't think that's a micro nose to the star.

[00:17:58] I didn't realize Michael Jackson was in this.

[00:18:05] He's even doing the crotch thing that had that get past the ERSRB.

[00:18:09] That's yeah.

[00:18:10] So like he's he has speaking lines in the game, but he's always referred to

[00:18:16] his space Michael, which I thought was funny.

[00:18:18] I didn't realize I so I would for a while.

[00:18:21] I wasn't sure if it was actually Michael Jackson, but I think it's come to light

[00:18:24] that it is actually Michael Jackson.

[00:18:26] Yeah.

[00:18:26] It's weird how Michael Jackson and Sega are just constantly so intertwined.

[00:18:31] Okay, but here's the thing Sega was like, dear Michael, sorry Moonwalker wasn't as big

[00:18:37] of a hit as we thought we would like to make it up to you after all these years

[00:18:41] by giving you what is going to be a guaranteed hit.

[00:18:46] But you're going to have to change your name to space Michael.

[00:18:48] And he's like, yeah, done.

[00:18:50] Well, no problem.

[00:18:51] You have to consider that Space Channel five was actually

[00:18:54] successful enough to get a sequel.

[00:18:56] Oh really?

[00:18:57] Did he get one?

[00:18:57] Space Channel six.

[00:18:59] Okay.

[00:19:00] What was the second one called?

[00:19:03] There's a VR game, I think.

[00:19:07] Space Channel five got a PS2 release because it was originally on Dreamcast

[00:19:11] and the PS2 release has both games in it.

[00:19:16] Okay.

[00:19:19] Yeah.

[00:19:19] Is there much variety in the levels or is it like it's a rhythm game for sure.

[00:19:22] I'm just trying to figure out what buttons you're pushing

[00:19:25] and then you shoot these aliens.

[00:19:26] There's lots of dancing, but

[00:19:29] I think it does get more difficult.

[00:19:31] I don't recall if it's all like up, down, left, right,

[00:19:34] or if they incorporate the ABXY.

[00:19:39] But yeah, it gets faster.

[00:19:40] It gets the patterns get more elaborate and longer.

[00:19:44] And it just it traverses through a handful of stages.

[00:19:50] I don't remember how many each game, but yeah,

[00:19:53] it's it takes you through different sceneries

[00:19:55] and the songs change as you're going things like that.

[00:19:57] But it's going to dance your way through the spaceship.

[00:20:01] The sequel is literally called Space Channel five part two.

[00:20:08] Oh, was it?

[00:20:08] Very imaginative.

[00:20:09] Yeah.

[00:20:09] Yeah, that's cool.

[00:20:13] I will say that I love the Dreamcast.

[00:20:17] I love the Dreamcast because it had a lot of very unique exclusive games

[00:20:21] compared to like the other systems.

[00:20:23] And this is definitely one of the ones that are way out there.

[00:20:26] I did almost pick it up, but I think I went.

[00:20:28] I think I got Sky's Arcadia instead.

[00:20:30] I'm kind of regretting my choice.

[00:20:31] I think I should have picked this one up.

[00:20:33] I do like rhythm games.

[00:20:36] This is a fun game.

[00:20:37] But Sky's Arcadia was better.

[00:20:39] I've beaten that game twice.

[00:20:41] I haven't actually beaten both Space Channel fives.

[00:20:45] Yeah, I don't think the WTF category needs to preclude

[00:20:48] the game being fun or not.

[00:20:50] Right.

[00:20:51] Which I'm glad we're brought up now because.

[00:20:53] But it helped.

[00:20:54] There was a third game.

[00:20:57] Oh, geez.

[00:20:58] Was there?

[00:20:59] Yeah, it was released.

[00:21:00] It was called Space Channel 5 VR, Kinda Funky News Flash.

[00:21:06] And it was on PlayStation 4 VR.

[00:21:08] In a VR setting, I can see this being pretty cool too.

[00:21:11] Yeah, especially with the motion controls.

[00:21:14] It also was on Oculus Quest, Viveport, SteamVR.

[00:21:18] But yeah, yeah, Kinda Funky News Flash.

[00:21:24] Huh.

[00:21:25] Oh, it's on Steam.

[00:21:26] Look at that.

[00:21:27] They just need to go ahead and bite the bullet

[00:21:30] and release the trilogy.

[00:21:33] That's what I want.

[00:21:34] I'm holding out for.

[00:21:35] Remaster.

[00:21:36] I'm holding out for six.

[00:21:40] Three fighters.

[00:21:41] So it looks like it's apparently the actual,

[00:21:44] like the original Space Channel five,

[00:21:46] just with the graphics in HD and you're playing in VR

[00:21:52] instead of on a TV screen.

[00:21:54] So it's Space Channel 5 one.

[00:21:57] Nice.

[00:21:57] Now I'm curious if they make you do the dancing

[00:22:00] and the movements and the shooting.

[00:22:01] That could be an actually really fun game.

[00:22:04] Yeah, that might be interesting.

[00:22:05] Gallery burner for sure.

[00:22:07] Yeah.

[00:22:07] Yeah.

[00:22:10] Yeah.

[00:22:11] Awesome pick.

[00:22:12] Yeah, this is great.

[00:22:12] It's got a great look to it.

[00:22:14] Yeah.

[00:22:14] And the music is definitely great too.

[00:22:15] I mean, we're not listening to the music on the video,

[00:22:17] but it looks great, sounds great.

[00:22:19] Apparently they're movie popcorn robots.

[00:22:24] There are robots that look like the movie popcorn containers.

[00:22:30] That's just the natural evolution of popcorn buckets, right?

[00:22:33] We started with the Dune bucket and then whatever the hell

[00:22:36] Ryan Reynolds is trying to push on us with the oral sex

[00:22:39] bucket of Wolverine's head.

[00:22:40] Yes.

[00:22:40] And then now we move into evil popcorn robots.

[00:22:43] It's just the way it goes.

[00:22:44] Yeah.

[00:22:45] Yeah.

[00:22:45] They're not even going to ask if you want the butter.

[00:22:47] They're just going to assume you want the butter.

[00:22:50] Well, you need the lube.

[00:22:51] Yeah.

[00:22:53] Whoa, whoa, nobody said that.

[00:22:56] Nobody's going to stop big cinema.

[00:22:58] They've just gotten too powerful.

[00:22:59] That's right.

[00:23:00] That's a good pick.

[00:23:01] Yeah.

[00:23:01] Space Channel 5 is definitely one I always wanted to try out

[00:23:04] because it looks so damn weird.

[00:23:05] It looks really interesting.

[00:23:07] It looks like part two is on Steam for eight bucks.

[00:23:10] Oh, nice.

[00:23:11] Oh, that's a good price.

[00:23:12] Yeah.

[00:23:12] Yeah.

[00:23:12] It's pretty good.

[00:23:14] Canadian or US?

[00:23:17] US.

[00:23:18] So probably 10 Canadian.

[00:23:20] $20 in Canada.

[00:23:21] Yeah.

[00:23:21] That's okay.

[00:23:21] Yeah.

[00:23:23] 45 and three cents.

[00:23:24] Yeah.

[00:23:25] No, that's a great pick, Wolf.

[00:23:26] I have never seen that game.

[00:23:30] And I mean, I'm not the biggest rhythm game fan, but I...

[00:23:38] Yeah, I'm not the biggest rhythm game fan.

[00:23:40] I have some other rhythm games, but I never really enjoyed them as much as this one,

[00:23:45] save for like I had a phase where I played the crap out of DDR.

[00:23:48] But this is such a fun game.

[00:23:51] Like I kind of wish this used the dance pad and maybe it did.

[00:23:55] I don't recall.

[00:23:56] Maybe I just didn't have one, but it's a really neat game.

[00:24:01] Yeah, for sure.

[00:24:02] I like Guitar Hero.

[00:24:03] I got into those for a while.

[00:24:04] That's that's fair.

[00:24:05] Guitar Hero and Rock Band.

[00:24:07] I did quite a bit of.

[00:24:08] Yeah, I did do Rock Band.

[00:24:10] Yeah.

[00:24:12] And yeah, Chard says the rhythm is going to get you.

[00:24:18] Yeah.

[00:24:19] Is that Gloria?

[00:24:21] Or is it who am I thinking of?

[00:24:22] Oh, that was Miami Sound Machine.

[00:24:25] Is it?

[00:24:25] Okay.

[00:24:26] Yeah, I don't.

[00:24:28] Chard's going to probably yell at us, both of us.

[00:24:31] Well then he can get on here.

[00:24:33] We probably deserve it.

[00:24:33] He doesn't, you know.

[00:24:34] Yeah.

[00:24:36] Awesome.

[00:24:37] Well, excellent.

[00:24:38] Well, Jake, what's your runner up?

[00:24:44] Yeah, I was just trying to find a better video of it.

[00:24:47] But yes, I will talk about it.

[00:24:51] So I saw mine.

[00:24:52] There's a website I've been a fan of for literally years called Giant Bomb and they

[00:24:57] did a playthrough of or part of a playthrough of this game.

[00:25:01] How do I explain this one?

[00:25:02] Think of think of Star Fox.

[00:25:05] Okay, take Star Fox, add in a little bit of Metal Gear Solid Stealth.

[00:25:12] And I guess that's about all you got.

[00:25:14] And you're the size of an insect.

[00:25:16] That's pretty much what it is.

[00:25:16] It's a stealth Star Fox.

[00:25:18] Does that make sense?

[00:25:18] Probably not.

[00:25:19] It's Mr. Mosquito, which came out for the PS2.

[00:25:22] And like I've said before, I have such like a gap in my retro knowledge of PS2 and PS3 games.

[00:25:29] I had never heard or seen of this game in my life.

[00:25:32] And the concept is, let me pull it up here.

[00:25:35] You're literally a mosquito.

[00:25:37] And there's a long ass intro.

[00:25:40] You're literally a mosquito.

[00:25:41] And the goal is, like you'd imagine too, is to suck blood.

[00:25:44] You need to suck a certain amount of vials from a victim.

[00:25:46] It takes place in various rooms of the house.

[00:25:48] Every stage is a different room in the house and you have a different victim.

[00:25:53] And it's like, let me pull up actual gameplay.

[00:25:56] So you're flying around this room and the victim slowly moves around the room.

[00:25:59] And at first they're unaware of you.

[00:26:01] And that's where the stealth element comes in.

[00:26:02] Because as you're flying around the room, you're trying to home in on certain targets

[00:26:06] in the body and suck blood before they notice you're there.

[00:26:10] Because if they notice you're there, then it triggers a battle.

[00:26:15] And I'm legit mean battle, as in like the screen says battle.

[00:26:18] The music kicks in with some JRPG, JRPG ass rock music or battle music.

[00:26:23] And you're basically fighting the, or you're trying to dodge the attacks,

[00:26:26] like the smacking of the victim trying to get you.

[00:26:30] But between that, you're flying around the room collecting hidden collectibles,

[00:26:34] hearts and all that stuff.

[00:26:35] As you're circling around following the victim around the room.

[00:26:38] And you're trying to land on them without them noticing and sucking blood.

[00:26:41] It's the weirdest concept for a game I've ever heard.

[00:26:45] I would say it's unique, but they actually did a sequel.

[00:26:47] Mr. Mosquito 2, let's go to Hawaii.

[00:26:50] So there's definitely two versions of this game.

[00:26:52] Sadly that one didn't get translated and brought up in North America.

[00:26:55] But the first one sure is in English and it sure is still a very Japanese, Japanese game.

[00:27:01] So I mean, it's great.

[00:27:02] The controls are, I'm not going to lie and say that they're stellar and amazing,

[00:27:05] but they work for what the game is.

[00:27:07] You fly around pretty ably.

[00:27:08] There's a nice Star Fox style like U-turn.

[00:27:12] When I first played this, it kind of reminded me of the

[00:27:14] open arena battles on Star Fox 64.

[00:27:17] That's what it kind of felt like in terms of controls.

[00:27:19] But obviously Star Fox is better.

[00:27:21] But it's just neat that there's a stealth element.

[00:27:24] As you're trying to fly around, there's objects in the room.

[00:27:26] So you can one stage, there's the father's laying on the floor watching TV.

[00:27:31] And you can't get near him because he's still awake.

[00:27:34] But you can find a remote in the room and smash into it

[00:27:38] and change the channel and it distracts him.

[00:27:40] So then you can fly on top of his bald head and start sucking blood.

[00:27:43] Oh my gosh.

[00:27:44] And you have to do it.

[00:27:48] It's so bizarre.

[00:27:49] In between stages, there's cut scenes.

[00:27:51] But the cut scenes are from a mosquito point of view.

[00:27:54] So like for people watching the YouTube,

[00:27:56] when I switched the video the first thing, there was three heads.

[00:27:59] That's the cut scenes.

[00:27:59] The family members gather over together.

[00:28:01] I guess they're doing like a family huddle,

[00:28:03] because we all do family huddles.

[00:28:05] Sure.

[00:28:07] And they're talking about things.

[00:28:08] But as the stages progress, they start talking about how

[00:28:10] they're getting bitten by a mosquito.

[00:28:12] It's just the weirdest stuff.

[00:28:15] Like the voice acting reminds me of Shenmue.

[00:28:20] Not in a good way, right?

[00:28:21] Everybody remembers how bad the voice work was in Shenmue.

[00:28:24] It reminds me of that.

[00:28:25] Like do you know where I can find sailors?

[00:28:27] That kind of tone.

[00:28:28] But it's all about mosquitoes.

[00:28:30] But the one reason for the thumbnail

[00:28:34] and the one reason I brought this one up

[00:28:35] and why it's not just an oddball game

[00:28:37] to like a truly weird game is when you do trigger a battle

[00:28:41] and the victim notices you and starts flailing away at you.

[00:28:45] Every victim has certain spots in the body

[00:28:48] that are called, I think they're called comfort spots.

[00:28:51] And then what you do is if you fly your mosquito

[00:28:54] and you jam into the comfort spot, they relax.

[00:28:59] In the first stage with the female victim,

[00:29:02] I'm not going to say it's sexual,

[00:29:05] but that was a deep probe of the promiscuous

[00:29:07] or whatever the hell you call that thing on the mosquito.

[00:29:09] Promoscus.

[00:29:10] Promoscus, yeah.

[00:29:11] And they went hard and knocked the victim out

[00:29:14] and then you go and you suck all the blood

[00:29:16] you need for that stage.

[00:29:17] And that's what this game is.

[00:29:18] It's like a number, it's a series of stages.

[00:29:20] They're all in different environments,

[00:29:21] all in different victims.

[00:29:23] The rooms are interactable.

[00:29:24] You can fly around and trigger different things.

[00:29:26] There's hidden collectible things around the rooms.

[00:29:29] I admittedly could not get very far.

[00:29:31] It's a tough game, but it's such a unique thing.

[00:29:35] Like I know I have to play Buck Bumble

[00:29:37] because that stupid wheel of pain last year.

[00:29:39] I wish Buck Bumble controlled as good as this game.

[00:29:43] Or it was as interesting as this one

[00:29:45] because this game is way more fun than Buck Bumble is.

[00:29:48] But anyway, have you guys heard of this one?

[00:29:51] Or is there like me if this is new?

[00:29:53] Oh yeah.

[00:29:54] No.

[00:29:54] I remember seeing this on the shelves at the GameStop.

[00:29:57] Really?

[00:29:58] I heard of it when you mentioned it.

[00:30:00] So yeah.

[00:30:03] Yeah, I remember seeing this on the shelves.

[00:30:05] I was always kind of curious about it,

[00:30:07] but I was like that does not look like my kind of game.

[00:30:10] It looks a little odd for me.

[00:30:13] Who is it a game for?

[00:30:14] Do you think?

[00:30:15] I don't know.

[00:30:16] Who's the mosquito simulation guy?

[00:30:21] I think this is a Japanese market game.

[00:30:23] One of the characters that you have to suck the blood of

[00:30:25] is the daughter.

[00:30:26] And I think you see her in the bathtub and stuff.

[00:30:28] So I think that tells us who this was marketed toward.

[00:30:32] Yeah, it's a Japanese game.

[00:30:37] That's pretty much what it is.

[00:30:40] I'm still trying to figure out why the mosquito.

[00:30:44] I know it's named Mr. Mosquito,

[00:30:45] but why the mosquito is humanoid with wings?

[00:30:52] So what's funny is in the second game,

[00:30:56] the second game takes place in Hawaii because as you do,

[00:30:58] and you get to pick between two different mosquitoes,

[00:31:00] the Japanese one or the American mosquito.

[00:31:02] And if I remember right,

[00:31:04] the American mosquito has a blonde fro or do.

[00:31:08] Very surfer dude looking.

[00:31:10] It's still bizarre.

[00:31:11] It's just a bizarre game all around.

[00:31:13] I just love how it has the targeting lock like Star Fox

[00:31:16] when you hit certain points and you're just buzzing around.

[00:31:19] And yeah, comfort spots.

[00:31:22] If I only knew this when I was-

[00:31:23] Can you do a barrel roll?

[00:31:27] You can't do a barrel roll, but you can do a 180,

[00:31:29] which is half a barrel roll, right?

[00:31:32] It's a mosquito.

[00:31:33] What do you want?

[00:31:35] Definitely a time.

[00:31:36] I don't know what was going on,

[00:31:38] but there were a lot of weird games for the PS2 in general at the time.

[00:31:44] There's one and I'll mention it here,

[00:31:47] but we won't go into too much detail about it.

[00:31:49] It was called a dog's life.

[00:31:52] And literally played it as a dog

[00:31:55] and you could see all the sense as colors while you were playing.

[00:32:00] That's cool.

[00:32:00] Well, don't they have the gray now and isn't there squirrel with a gun?

[00:32:06] I mean, this feels like, you know-

[00:32:09] Goose game, untitled goose game, which was almost on my list.

[00:32:14] Untitled goose game is so fun to watch people play.

[00:32:18] Yeah, it is great.

[00:32:21] And I'll say this, to Wolf's point about the number of oddities

[00:32:26] and weird things that they have on the PS2.

[00:32:29] I feel like, for example,

[00:32:31] and I can only speculate here with Mr. Mosquito,

[00:32:33] but I feel like the developers of that game had this idea back in like 1994

[00:32:38] and they're like, but we're ahead of our time.

[00:32:40] The technology is not there yet.

[00:32:42] It's not there yet.

[00:32:43] And the PlayStation 1 came out and they're like,

[00:32:44] we are so close to getting everything we want from Mr. Mosquito, but not quite.

[00:32:49] And then the PS2 came out and then they played, you know,

[00:32:54] Metal Gear Solid 2, Sons of Liberty.

[00:32:55] And they said graphically, yes, but that game is not interesting enough.

[00:33:01] Let's do Mr. Mosquito now.

[00:33:02] The world is ready.

[00:33:03] It's time for Comfort Zones.

[00:33:06] Let's go.

[00:33:06] Oh, jeez.

[00:33:07] Comfort spots.

[00:33:10] I am surprised it didn't get in like a third game or something on Steam.

[00:33:13] I mean, we're in a world now where you have Gal Guns,

[00:33:15] so I guess they've kind of taken it to another level.

[00:33:17] But I just expected to see a sequel.

[00:33:20] This is a game I was surprised I've never heard of it before.

[00:33:23] Like you mentioned, you saw in GameStop is amazing to me.

[00:33:26] But again, I wasn't really actively looking for PS2 games.

[00:33:28] I didn't own one.

[00:33:29] I was a GameCube kid.

[00:33:30] I was clearly missing out on the Mosquito simulation train, but it's wild.

[00:33:37] You know those wonderful top-down shooters like 1942 and the like?

[00:33:41] Yeah, yeah.

[00:33:43] This is what I want from the next Mr. Mosquito.

[00:33:45] Give us a mode of, okay, keep the 3D aspect of this,

[00:33:51] but fly through a ring or collect a bobble,

[00:33:53] and then let two little mosquitoes flank you on either side and let them, you know.

[00:34:00] Shoot the comfort spot, remote shots or something?

[00:34:06] Absolutely.

[00:34:06] That's what I'm expecting from the next Mr. Mosquito.

[00:34:10] The mosquitowing.

[00:34:11] I think this is definitely a WTF pick.

[00:34:14] Well played.

[00:34:15] Yeah.

[00:34:16] Well played.

[00:34:16] Like I was saying, if this is what you get from Mosquito Bytes,

[00:34:19] then maybe I've been doing camping all wrong.

[00:34:22] Maybe it's time to leave the deed at home.

[00:34:24] Yeah, I never feel comfort when there's a mosquito near me.

[00:34:29] Never.

[00:34:30] Yeah.

[00:34:31] Yeah, okay.

[00:34:33] Well awesome.

[00:34:34] Okay, so I guess my runner-up is actually, I've played two of these.

[00:34:41] I'm kind of taking a little bit of liberty, and I'm going to say,

[00:34:46] WarioWare as kind of an entire, you know, melded together.

[00:34:54] Now I played the one on the DS, touched, WarioWare touched,

[00:34:59] and I played smooth moves on the Wii.

[00:35:02] Yeah, that's one I know.

[00:35:03] Yeah, and I mean the reason I kind of treat these as WTF games is,

[00:35:10] I mean obviously they are.

[00:35:11] It's weird.

[00:35:12] But like, even the mini games, like one of the things about Mario Party, right,

[00:35:17] is the mini games, well they're strange.

[00:35:21] They at least kind of make sense.

[00:35:23] WarioWare the mini games are, pump all the lead out of the pencil.

[00:35:29] Like, you know, or, you know, I don't know.

[00:35:34] There's a bunch of Whack-a-Mole, there's a bunch of, you know.

[00:35:36] Sniff back the snot, I think is one of the ones I remember.

[00:35:39] Uh huh, yeah.

[00:35:40] And they're literally three to five seconds long, you know.

[00:35:45] And I love the one on the DS, the WarioWare touched.

[00:35:50] You know, it used both screens very well.

[00:35:53] There's this whole story where, you know, Wario is eating sweets and his teeth become,

[00:36:00] they become nightmare fuel.

[00:36:02] I'm going to warn you, you probably don't want to play WarioWare touched

[00:36:07] if you have any weirdness about teeth at all.

[00:36:10] Um, but WarioWare smooth moves on the Wii.

[00:36:16] It was glorious.

[00:36:17] Before each one of the things that would tell you how to hold the controller,

[00:36:22] you know, it had to hold it like a waiter or it had, you know, a tug of war.

[00:36:29] And my favorite was always the elephant.

[00:36:32] Hold it up against your face.

[00:36:36] And then you had to like nod.

[00:36:38] Like it would be like, is this a thing?

[00:36:40] Yes or no.

[00:36:40] And you'd have to nod or, you know.

[00:36:43] Um, but yeah, I mean, these mini games are crazy.

[00:36:47] Um, the characters, I don't even remember their names,

[00:36:50] Jimmy T or something.

[00:36:52] They're all kind of, you know, uh, along this line.

[00:36:56] Anyway, it's, it's a very interesting, the, the mini,

[00:37:00] what do we call this genre?

[00:37:01] Mini games?

[00:37:02] I don't know.

[00:37:02] Micro games, I think, because you're right.

[00:37:04] Yeah, micro games.

[00:37:05] They're seconds long.

[00:37:07] There's not one that goes above 10 seconds.

[00:37:09] I think they're very short.

[00:37:11] Yeah.

[00:37:13] Yeah.

[00:37:14] The cast of characters is really interesting.

[00:37:15] Like I've played the, uh, the switch version.

[00:37:17] There's a switch when it came out, I think two years ago and I picked that one up

[00:37:21] and the characters just, I figured there was like a backstory to some of these

[00:37:25] characters or that they became, they were an earlier franchise or earlier entries in the

[00:37:28] game and the franchise and they are, but they're just so bonkers.

[00:37:31] Like there's like a seventies disco type dancer with the fro.

[00:37:35] There's just a crazy lady with a hat.

[00:37:37] Like it just, they're just a very weird group of characters and you only have them for like

[00:37:42] seconds at a time.

[00:37:43] Right.

[00:37:43] It's an interesting one.

[00:37:45] And there are even boss battles, right?

[00:37:47] Which, which takes away the timer, but it's, you know, uh, yeah, it's,

[00:37:53] it's a very interesting series of games.

[00:37:56] So yeah.

[00:37:59] Now I've only played, I've only played the Game Boy game.

[00:38:03] I think they're the Game Boy advanced game.

[00:38:07] WarioWare, Inc.

[00:38:09] Mega micro games is the one I played and that's because my brother had that one

[00:38:15] and it was just even the Game Boy advanced one was weird.

[00:38:21] I don't think it was quite as wacky as they've gotten like some of the micro games

[00:38:27] in that one were actually like there was a legend of Zelda one for Zelda one.

[00:38:32] Like it kind of leads toward what, uh, what was that Wii U game and DS game?

[00:38:39] The Ness Remix.

[00:38:41] Ness Remix.

[00:38:41] Oh, it's just so fun.

[00:38:43] Yeah.

[00:38:44] So it kind of feels like Ness Remix was inspired by this, but they were like,

[00:38:49] but what if we do it with all NES games?

[00:38:52] Right.

[00:38:54] It inherently became less wacky.

[00:38:58] Yeah.

[00:39:00] I just watched one.

[00:39:01] I just watched one of the mini games and it was unroll the toilet paper.

[00:39:06] And I love some of the little follow ups at the end.

[00:39:08] It says save the trees, right?

[00:39:10] Save the trees.

[00:39:13] We can do this because we've been talking.

[00:39:15] There's been like, I think we've seen 15 games in the,

[00:39:18] in like the couple of minutes we've been talking and they're all bonkers.

[00:39:20] Weird.

[00:39:21] They're all very different.

[00:39:22] I just, what are the dev team look?

[00:39:24] Yeah.

[00:39:24] Plug your hair.

[00:39:25] What's the dev team for this look like?

[00:39:27] They're probably sitting in a room and they're shouting out ideas on a board

[00:39:30] and then they have to run off and try and code a pretty unique mechanic

[00:39:34] for a five second game and move on to the next one.

[00:39:37] There's a bunch in this game.

[00:39:39] Yeah.

[00:39:40] The graphic designers had to be like, I hate you guys.

[00:39:44] I hate you guys so much.

[00:39:48] Like we not reuse an asset at least once.

[00:39:51] You've made me draw skin with a human hair sticking out of it.

[00:39:55] That's their wants and it's like, yeah, I hate you guys.

[00:40:00] This also feels like something where all like the whole dev team is like,

[00:40:06] okay, let's brainstorm a bunch of games and then you'll be in charge of this one.

[00:40:12] You're in charge of this one.

[00:40:13] You're in charge of this one since they're all like miniature games.

[00:40:17] Right.

[00:40:17] Everybody just gets to program one.

[00:40:19] It's like, all right, when you're done with that one, come back.

[00:40:20] We'll give you another.

[00:40:21] Yeah.

[00:40:22] You've got half a day for this one.

[00:40:24] Go.

[00:40:27] Yeah.

[00:40:28] Oh, okay.

[00:40:30] Yeah.

[00:40:30] So that's, that's the Wario, the Wario games.

[00:40:33] But I honestly, I loved the one on the Wii.

[00:40:36] I really did.

[00:40:37] I thought that was clever.

[00:40:38] Yeah.

[00:40:40] Yeah.

[00:40:40] So the only character I really remember from this game was, well, there's a couple.

[00:40:45] There's nine volt, which was the gamer one with his DJ like boombox buddy.

[00:40:50] And then there's Ashley, which is the only one that's got like,

[00:40:56] it's like the most normal name, but she's like this Adams family as character.

[00:41:00] Right.

[00:41:03] Yep.

[00:41:03] No, I had to look it up because this, the style of this game reminds me a lot of rhythm heaven,

[00:41:07] which is another, another interesting weird series that I love.

[00:41:11] And there's only a couple of injuries there.

[00:41:12] And if I look at the developer, but it looks like different teams in Nintendo,

[00:41:16] but there has to been some kind of cross pollination of staff

[00:41:19] because the wacky sense of humor and rhythm heaven and Wario where is just,

[00:41:22] it's on the same area.

[00:41:24] Oh, this game is over the top.

[00:41:27] I guess when I played the switch one from a couple of years ago,

[00:41:29] the big change with that one is that you could play as all the various characters in the cast

[00:41:33] and unlock them.

[00:41:34] And they all had a unique way of moving, not as mind blowing as I would want I wanted,

[00:41:38] but the mini games are just as weird and wild as this, this game.

[00:41:42] So yeah.

[00:41:44] Well, and to be honest with you, there's, there really is a sense of accomplishment

[00:41:50] when you do like 20 mini games in a row and you've,

[00:41:55] you just do them without having to like redo any, you know,

[00:41:59] is a sense of accomplishment to be like, Hey, I did these 22 second things.

[00:42:04] I feel great.

[00:42:06] Yeah.

[00:42:07] This is also, I'm sorry, GP.

[00:42:10] I have to wonder who was like, you know what we need to do with Wario weird.

[00:42:16] Yeah.

[00:42:17] Yeah.

[00:42:17] Cause they had tried gross and gross apparently didn't sell all that well.

[00:42:21] Yeah.

[00:42:21] So they're like, all right, weird.

[00:42:23] We can work gross into weird.

[00:42:26] Oh yeah.

[00:42:27] One of those mini games was a gallon.

[00:42:28] Like picking a nose or something.

[00:42:30] Right.

[00:42:30] Uh-huh.

[00:42:31] Yeah.

[00:42:31] Yeah.

[00:42:31] You have to slice the snot so that she can sniff it in.

[00:42:35] Uh-huh.

[00:42:36] Yeah.

[00:42:36] I also feel like not, not to kind of use this joke over and over in one episode,

[00:42:42] but I feel like they were thinking, okay, if you don't have the patience

[00:42:46] for the mini games from Mario party, like if you thought Mario party drug on,

[00:42:53] this is the game for you.

[00:42:55] You know, I think you found, I think you found your market.

[00:42:58] This is a market.

[00:42:59] This is a series of games designed for ADHD kids.

[00:43:03] Okay.

[00:43:03] You very much so.

[00:43:05] That's the Johnny test of video games.

[00:43:07] Yeah.

[00:43:09] Well, like, so like Sony is releasing a game called Astro Bot.

[00:43:13] Uh, they're doing it.

[00:43:14] They're doing a full version of that game and there was an interview with one of the,

[00:43:16] one of the teams on that.

[00:43:17] And they said their goal was to have a different element of gameplay every 10 minutes

[00:43:22] because they found that people get distracted or bored with the game.

[00:43:25] If it's longer than 10 minutes, Wario is like looking at that research and it's like,

[00:43:29] no, you guys are scrubs new game experience every five fucking seconds.

[00:43:33] That's what we're going to give you five seconds, radically change gameplay.

[00:43:37] Yeah.

[00:43:37] You wouldn't believe how absolutely tired of bored of Witcher three.

[00:43:41] I was after 120 hours.

[00:43:44] Well, so it's a neat, it's a neat discussion point though, because, um,

[00:43:48] you know, we've all, I think we all like Skyrim to a degree or Morrowind or Blivion.

[00:43:52] Those are games that you play and you generally find something,

[00:43:55] whether it's a cave or town or something every, every, every 10 to 15 minutes.

[00:43:59] It's pretty frequent.

[00:44:00] You stumble across something famously.

[00:44:02] Nobody finishes Skyrim because they get distracted.

[00:44:04] But when Starfield came out, the problem with that game is you go to the various planets.

[00:44:09] A lot of them are dead planets.

[00:44:11] They're empty by design.

[00:44:12] And if you do go to a planet that has something, they're vastly spread out.

[00:44:16] There's no, there's not nearly enough like, you know, that dopamine hits of finding

[00:44:20] something new every five, 10 minutes.

[00:44:21] It doesn't have that.

[00:44:22] And a lot of people point to that as being why those are boring.

[00:44:26] So WarioWare is again, five cents, five to 10 seconds,

[00:44:29] keeping you on your feet, on your toes.

[00:44:31] You can't stop to pick your nose when you're playing WarioWare.

[00:44:34] You just ride it out.

[00:44:35] Right?

[00:44:37] I find that problem also with Forza when I'm doing races with Forza, Forza five.

[00:44:42] I invariably get an itchy nose or something when I'm in the middle of a race.

[00:44:46] Yeah.

[00:44:47] Can't pause.

[00:44:48] There's no pausing in Forza.

[00:44:49] You have to keep going.

[00:44:51] Yeah.

[00:44:52] Well, and there's a part of me that's like,

[00:44:55] it would be nice to have pedals because then I could like

[00:44:58] one-hand it like I'm driving your car.

[00:45:01] Yeah.

[00:45:03] Yep.

[00:45:04] Awesome.

[00:45:05] Good pick.

[00:45:05] That's definitely a weird game for sure.

[00:45:07] Yeah.

[00:45:08] I mean, I think it's kind of by, I mean, these are all by design.

[00:45:11] So, all right.

[00:45:13] Do we want to either work backwards or do we want to go back around

[00:45:17] the room like we did before?

[00:45:22] I got GP's video queued up if you want to do that.

[00:45:24] Okay.

[00:45:24] Same order.

[00:45:25] Yeah.

[00:45:26] All right.

[00:45:26] And I will, I'll keep mine kind of succinct because I know

[00:45:30] we're going over on time here.

[00:45:33] So I'm glad we've had the discussion about the WTF game can be fun.

[00:45:39] Doesn't have to be a horrible game.

[00:45:41] We have not clarified what WTF means.

[00:45:44] Granted to most people in the modern vernacular, it's, you know,

[00:45:47] what the fuck.

[00:45:49] This one's more of a why.

[00:45:50] Why the fuck?

[00:45:51] This game is an NES platformer from 1992 called MC Kids or Mckids.

[00:46:01] And it was a McDonald's sponsored Virgin Enterprises or Virgin video games release.

[00:46:09] And it's exactly what you think.

[00:46:11] There's some, for whatever reason, plot where the Hamburglar stole,

[00:46:16] I think it was Ronald McDonald's magic sack.

[00:46:19] And then he hires these two children, Mick and Mack,

[00:46:23] whom we never see again in any of the McDonald's lore.

[00:46:27] And he's like, hey, I think I saw the Hamburglar runoff toward

[00:46:32] Bertie's tree house, which these are all characters.

[00:46:34] There may be a generational gap here, but McDonald's used to have mascots.

[00:46:38] The Fry Kids, Bremen's Hamburglar, Mayor McCheese, who I really do think was my spirit animal.

[00:46:44] But it was so anyway, it was this why the fuck?

[00:46:48] Obviously, it's a cash grab.

[00:46:50] And it's not to say it's a horrible game.

[00:46:51] I enjoyed it as a kid.

[00:46:53] There's definite member berries, you know, for me, nostalgia wise.

[00:46:58] But to call it a great game would be a stretch, I think.

[00:47:02] But I mean, it is the McDonald's toy of video games, if that makes sense.

[00:47:11] If you haven't played it, it's worth 20 minutes of your time

[00:47:15] or roughly 500 WarioWare mini games.

[00:47:22] But yeah, it's thin.

[00:47:26] It's not very substantial.

[00:47:28] Some of the platforming is fun.

[00:47:29] There are puzzle aspects, collecting tiles and figuring your way through the stages.

[00:47:35] I have a question.

[00:47:38] I just watched part of the video where this character picks up a block

[00:47:43] and just kind of deposits it in the air and it just starts moving and he jumps on it.

[00:47:49] It looked like there was no recommendation to do this.

[00:47:54] Yeah.

[00:47:55] Okay.

[00:47:56] So there are some prompts in the game or in the stage.

[00:47:59] If you're looking at the screen a few seconds ago, I don't know if it's still going,

[00:48:03] there is a Metal Storm gravity inversion aspect as well.

[00:48:08] So there's like I said, kind of a puzzle aspect to it.

[00:48:11] None of which I really remember the plot details to or if it exists at all.

[00:48:17] But it does seem to be this kind of mashup of everything from,

[00:48:20] you know, as the Metal Storm-esque things.

[00:48:23] Some of the platforming mechanics are very Mario World, the Super Nintendo, you know?

[00:48:29] Mario Brothers game.

[00:48:30] So it's this amalgamation of odd things and, you know, this would have never happened

[00:48:39] if we had the Szechuan sauce in the 90s.

[00:48:42] This is really, this is the protest generation.

[00:48:44] No Szechuan sauce and we just got this game.

[00:48:48] It's neat.

[00:48:48] So I know this game because of the Game Boy one.

[00:48:50] There was a Game Boy version of this, of Mick Kids,

[00:48:54] which I always found neat because it was Mick Kids in the EU, the PAL version.

[00:49:01] But when they brought it to the US,

[00:49:02] they took the McDonald's license out of it and they branded it as a cool spot game.

[00:49:07] So because the Game Boy had a lot of games where they rethemed them all the time for

[00:49:10] different regions and that's what that was.

[00:49:12] So to see this one is neat.

[00:49:13] They do show up these two characters, Mick and Mack are actually in a few different games,

[00:49:16] GP. It's a franchise.

[00:49:17] Oh really?

[00:49:18] Yeah.

[00:49:19] I was unaware.

[00:49:20] Okay.

[00:49:20] Yeah. I think it's Mick and Mack Global Gladiators is basically these kids from Mick Kids.

[00:49:25] I'm not saying any of them are good, I don't know, but I mean they're not bad.

[00:49:28] It's a fine game. It's a platformer.

[00:49:30] I'm now picturing it like American Gladiators.

[00:49:33] They're going up against Blaze and Laser and it's these two kids just getting

[00:49:38] absolutely wrecked by these monster Gladiator people.

[00:49:43] You have to go through the gauntlet at McDonald's.

[00:49:46] Well, when you guys were kids, did you guys have the playground?

[00:49:49] So when I was a kid, when you said Mayor McCheese, I know Mayor McCheese because I

[00:49:53] crawled through his cranium GP. Because when I was a kid, the McDonald's playground had these

[00:49:57] tall cylinder things you'd climb up into and into the head of the Burger People and

[00:50:04] crawl around their faces.

[00:50:05] And it had metal bars. Now they had crossbars so it didn't look exactly like you were in

[00:50:10] jail, but it was like you were in jail.

[00:50:13] And then your mom would be yelling at you that you got to go, we got to hurry up,

[00:50:16] and you know she couldn't come and get you.

[00:50:18] Nobody can get, no adult could get into those damn things.

[00:50:21] And there are six children trying to get in it as well so there's no way you're getting out.

[00:50:28] Oh my gosh.

[00:50:30] So okay, another thing real quick, two things.

[00:50:33] One, I'm glad you brought up Cool Spot because I wanted, originally my whole kind of opener to

[00:50:41] this game was going to draw parallels to Cool Spot because the NES version was so bad,

[00:50:46] but the Sega and Super Nintendo version of Cool Spot absolutely owned.

[00:50:51] Those games were amazing.

[00:50:55] But yeah, that's kind of a WT, like you know why?

[00:50:58] Why the theming of this, that, and the other?

[00:51:00] But this game obviously was made for McDonald's and I think it was just board members

[00:51:05] saying hey let's appeal to the children and cash grab a video game.

[00:51:10] And here's 20 bucks for the budget.

[00:51:12] Yeah, like the whole idea of corporate cash outs on these games is always interesting to me.

[00:51:16] Especially for Cool Spot, we all know the true real classic of Cool Spot was the NES game.

[00:51:22] All right.

[00:51:23] I already was a platformer even though you guys disagree with me,

[00:51:26] but it's definitely a platformer because what is a table GP

[00:51:29] if not a thing you could jump off of?

[00:51:32] All right.

[00:51:36] Clearly McDonald's saw the success of Yo Noid and was like we need to do this.

[00:51:42] Yeah.

[00:51:42] Okay, first off there is an absolute bonkers story about why the Yo Noid

[00:51:49] campaign ended.

[00:51:50] I'm not going to get through it here but if you look it up, it is a ridiculous story.

[00:51:54] In fact, we've talked about this other podcaster.

[00:51:57] He's a strange dark and mysterious, you know, podcaster named Mr. Ballin.

[00:52:01] He just did an episode on it about a month ago.

[00:52:04] Anyway, not important to the purposes of today's discussion.

[00:52:09] I do want to show love though for McKids just because like the puzzle aspects and

[00:52:14] some of the things really were top tier.

[00:52:16] That's a standout part of the game.

[00:52:17] I promised I would keep this one short.

[00:52:19] I've done a horrible job at that.

[00:52:21] That's all I'm going to say about McKids.

[00:52:23] Anything else you guys have, please feel free to get into it.

[00:52:27] But yeah, great game.

[00:52:29] Yeah, no, this is definitely I was watching the video

[00:52:32] and I was thinking to myself WTF the whole time.

[00:52:36] So yeah.

[00:52:37] All right, Wolf, I think you're next.

[00:52:41] All right.

[00:52:42] So my second choice tonight is Jet Set Radio.

[00:52:51] And when it was released in the West, it was originally called Jet Grind Radio.

[00:52:55] I don't know if that ever got changed but the sequel kind of ended up being

[00:52:58] called Jet Set Radio Future.

[00:53:01] But I imported it and played the Japanese one so I always called it Jet Set.

[00:53:06] Anyway, this was a game that's on its face.

[00:53:13] It just seems odd at best because you're playing as street gangs

[00:53:18] that tag up the city of Tokyo, though, marking their territory,

[00:53:22] fighting over territory and what have you.

[00:53:25] Occasionally the cops come in.

[00:53:26] But it's it's this weird sort of skating game where it's all about grinding

[00:53:31] and tagging ridiculously hard to reach places around the city.

[00:53:36] But the plot is what makes it really weird because as you go around

[00:53:43] defeating these other rival gangs, you get pieces of an old record

[00:53:49] that is called.

[00:53:50] What was that called?

[00:53:53] It is called the Golden Disk or something.

[00:53:58] No, the Devil's Contract.

[00:54:01] And supposedly it has the power to summon a demon.

[00:54:06] Well, this major corporation that is kind of like bearing down on the city

[00:54:12] wants this vinyl record and they end up getting their hands on it.

[00:54:18] The CEO of this company wants to make a deal with a demon

[00:54:23] to have more power than he's already got.

[00:54:26] So this is the deeper plot of this.

[00:54:30] That's the deeper deeper plot.

[00:54:34] Yeah.

[00:54:35] Huh.

[00:54:35] But I mean, this is a game.

[00:54:38] The soundtrack is pretty wacky.

[00:54:40] It's I mean, it's catchy as hell, but the soundtrack is also wacky.

[00:54:44] I have songs from the soundtrack on my current playlist.

[00:54:47] I love this game soundtrack, but they're bizarre songs.

[00:54:53] I always enjoy that art style that the cell shading and things like that.

[00:54:57] Yeah.

[00:54:57] Yes.

[00:54:58] Very cool.

[00:54:59] This is I think was the one that really pioneered that style, I think,

[00:55:03] because this is a dreamcast game as well.

[00:55:05] Was there other ones that are cell shaded before it?

[00:55:08] When did when did Joe?

[00:55:11] Well, when did when did when did Dragon Quest,

[00:55:16] whichever the curse of the king or whatever,

[00:55:20] when did that come out?

[00:55:21] Because that one was all cell shaded.

[00:55:25] I'm not sure.

[00:55:25] Don't remember.

[00:55:26] I just remember this is the first one where I saw.

[00:55:28] This is the first game I saw where it was cell shaded and it looked it looked really good.

[00:55:33] It fit the aesthetic of what they're going with.

[00:55:36] I love the environments, right?

[00:55:37] No load screens is a gigantically huge city and you can grind off most everything.

[00:55:42] I know a lot of folks love Tony Hawk.

[00:55:45] I could never get into Tony Hawk because I just want to play this kind of game,

[00:55:48] right?

[00:55:49] In terms of moves.

[00:55:51] It's hard though.

[00:55:52] It's not it's definitely a tough game.

[00:55:53] I don't think I beat this one as a kid.

[00:55:55] I got a few stages in once you pick it up, but I had a real struggle kind of getting

[00:56:00] a handle on the controls, but the aesthetics are definitely down.

[00:56:04] I know I 100% of this game and this equal.

[00:56:07] I love these games.

[00:56:09] Nice.

[00:56:10] It was so happy.

[00:56:12] I like that we're not just crapping on games for our WTF.

[00:56:16] For some we're celebrating them.

[00:56:18] No, no, no.

[00:56:20] It's great.

[00:56:21] It was this one was also one of those games like it could connect to the web.

[00:56:25] You could make your own tagging symbols.

[00:56:27] That's really and then you could share them online.

[00:56:30] Yeah.

[00:56:31] Oh cool.

[00:56:32] So I mean it was really neat.

[00:56:34] There were a lot of characters that had a lot of charm.

[00:56:38] The level designs were really cool and you could just like if you got the right spot,

[00:56:43] you could grind off walls back and forth just getting higher and higher to get to the

[00:56:48] ridiculously hard to reach places and I was it was really cool how they handled it.

[00:56:54] And it wasn't all tagging.

[00:56:55] You also had like I think sometimes you had to spray paint your opponents to like knock them out.

[00:57:05] And randomly, you'd have the cops show up and you'd have to avoid them while you're doing all

[00:57:10] this.

[00:57:11] If I remember the cops were like the UK style Bobbies with the hats.

[00:57:14] I guess you can find a video of them.

[00:57:16] Except for the head, the lead investigator who was like the long duster and the big wide

[00:57:22] brim cap.

[00:57:23] And yeah.

[00:57:26] Oh, I don't know this character.

[00:57:27] There's a lot of characters in this game actually.

[00:57:30] There were other gangs and so when you beat the other gangs,

[00:57:34] you would get somebody from that gang and the gangs were also ridiculous.

[00:57:38] Like there was one gang called the love shockers and they were all jilted lovers.

[00:57:44] That was the entire basis of their gang.

[00:57:46] That is why they're going around tagging up the city being menaces.

[00:57:52] Why should the broken hearts have anything beautiful?

[00:57:55] It's true to real life.

[00:57:56] It's true to real life.

[00:57:58] Yeah, I just got my heart broke.

[00:58:01] Guess I'll join a gang.

[00:58:02] Yeah, I was in a gang once.

[00:58:05] Hand me that spray can.

[00:58:07] Yeah, hand me that spray can.

[00:58:11] Maybe Banks is just a divorcee and that's all it is.

[00:58:15] I forgot you had to input like directional input tag.

[00:58:20] Yes, that's how you tag.

[00:58:22] Quarter motions, things like that.

[00:58:24] I forgot about that and you also had your stock of spray paint.

[00:58:28] So you had to go around and collect more as you were going around.

[00:58:32] And then it gets tricky because you have to grind off a wall

[00:58:35] and to reach a billboard, to spray the billboard.

[00:58:38] The ones that are in the air were a quick press.

[00:58:40] And then you're constantly trying to tag everything

[00:58:43] and some of them are quite involved

[00:58:44] while the cops are looking around for you and chasing after you.

[00:58:48] It's definitely a hectic game.

[00:58:49] This is even funny because I was actually talking to my kid not too long ago,

[00:58:57] told him that we should play this this summer.

[00:59:01] And he was like, I told him about it.

[00:59:04] He was like, yeah, that sounds fun.

[00:59:07] Nice.

[00:59:09] Awesome.

[00:59:09] Yeah, especially if you like the open worlds of some of the Tony Hawk games.

[00:59:13] I feel like you might like this one.

[00:59:15] But for me, it's just the style and the music is what is what sells it.

[00:59:18] This is another Dreamcast classic for me, right?

[00:59:20] I only had a handful of Dreamcast games,

[00:59:22] but they all felt really original and really, really interesting.

[00:59:28] Yeah, like Dreamcast definitely had some bizarre entries.

[00:59:33] And I mean, Saturn did too.

[00:59:35] Sega was no stranger to the weirdness in general.

[00:59:39] But these are just two of my favorites

[00:59:43] and they're also out there and wacky.

[00:59:45] So that's cool, though.

[00:59:47] Now, these look like these look like great games.

[00:59:50] And definitely not something you see like kind of genre splitters or genre changers, you know?

[00:59:58] Yeah.

[00:59:58] And the sauce in chat mentioned that they still have the

[01:00:02] Jet Set Radio Future soundtrack on their phone playlist.

[01:00:06] And that was also a good soundtrack.

[01:00:08] That one was a little more focused.

[01:00:10] The first one had some like Eurobeat people I had never heard of

[01:00:14] and I think some other Japanese bands.

[01:00:16] But the second one, they brought in the Latch Brothers,

[01:00:18] which if you're not familiar with them, it's two of the Beastie Boys.

[01:00:23] Yeah.

[01:00:23] Oh, okay.

[01:00:24] The Beastie Boys had separated

[01:00:27] and they had some really good hit.

[01:00:29] They had some really good music on that game.

[01:00:34] Very cool.

[01:00:35] No, I think this is a great pick.

[01:00:36] This is a great pick for sure.

[01:00:38] A real hidden gem if ever there was one.

[01:00:43] Awesome.

[01:00:45] Yeah, there you go.

[01:00:46] Well, Jake, how about your second or?

[01:00:51] Yeah.

[01:00:51] So this one, this is a game.

[01:00:54] So this is a GameCube game, although I did not hear it,

[01:00:56] hear of it when I had a GameCube.

[01:00:59] Imagine you are, it opens with, you know, I'm going to pull it up

[01:01:03] because it's like an unskippable three minute intro.

[01:01:05] So I'll just give everybody a taste who's watching the YouTube video.

[01:01:08] That's important.

[01:01:09] But it basically takes place in ancient Japan, I guess.

[01:01:13] In a kingdom, a general basically loses a battle, takes his own life.

[01:01:18] His son tries to put together the pieces to become a great general himself

[01:01:22] and he finds a special bell called the Ninten Bell or Ninten Bell?

[01:01:28] I think it's Ninten Bell.

[01:01:29] And he basically becomes, wants to become a great warrior,

[01:01:32] a great general like his father.

[01:01:35] And it's straight out of like, you know, Three Kingdoms or Total War series.

[01:01:39] Like it just has a very serious tone to it.

[01:01:41] But no, why is it weird?

[01:01:43] Because the pinball game guys, that's what it is.

[01:01:46] I got to skip ahead because that that intro is three minutes unskippable.

[01:01:52] That is the greatest plot twist in the history of this channel,

[01:01:55] by the way, Six Jake.

[01:01:56] Thank you for that reveal.

[01:01:57] It's a pinball game.

[01:01:58] It's I don't know.

[01:01:59] I don't know if you have you guys haven't played this one, right?

[01:02:01] I don't think anybody has.

[01:02:02] I don't think you've said the name.

[01:02:04] No, no.

[01:02:05] Oh, it's Odama.

[01:02:07] Sorry, Odama.

[01:02:08] Yeah.

[01:02:10] So in addition to the Ninten Bell, right, which is basically the goal is to bring this,

[01:02:14] you got four half naked men trying to carry this giant bell across the battlefield.

[01:02:19] And so there's warriors, your warriors and the opponent's warriors on the other side.

[01:02:23] Very much feels like a Total War battle, except yes, it's pinball.

[01:02:27] The Odama is actually a giant iron ball, which in pinball fashion,

[01:02:33] you have two concrete paddles on the bottom of the screen

[01:02:36] and you can knock the ball up onto the playing field,

[01:02:39] knocking out all the troops that are fighting, not just the enemy troops,

[01:02:43] also your own troops.

[01:02:45] And it's freaking wild.

[01:02:46] It's a pinball game.

[01:02:47] It's a pinball game.

[01:02:48] So where it gets interesting is much like a pinball game,

[01:02:51] and we've all played pinball games, there's usually objectives on the playing fields

[01:02:55] to get scores or open up certain things.

[01:02:58] And this one, for example, it is a tactical battle.

[01:03:00] It's happening in front of you.

[01:03:03] In most stages, it's a river or some kind of obstacle.

[01:03:05] And you have to hit something on the field with a ball to unlock it

[01:03:08] so your troops can move forward.

[01:03:10] So for those who are watching the YouTube video right now,

[01:03:12] in the first stage is a river

[01:03:13] and you have to close the floodgates with your ball

[01:03:16] so your troops can make it across.

[01:03:18] So there's, and it's filled with things like this,

[01:03:20] like things that are in pinball, like spinning barriers and whatnot

[01:03:24] are in this game in some form.

[01:03:26] And murder.

[01:03:26] Oh my gosh.

[01:03:27] And they also quip too, right?

[01:03:31] They're like, to this end, tell my children I love them.

[01:03:35] They talk in text bubbles as this is unfolding.

[01:03:38] And of course you have a certain amount of reserve

[01:03:40] and you can just send them onto the battlefield at will.

[01:03:43] But it gets a little bit weirder.

[01:03:46] I don't know how many people are aware.

[01:03:48] It gets weirder.

[01:03:49] On the GameCube, there was a microphone accessory you could buy.

[01:03:55] I knew of it because of Mario Party

[01:03:57] but Odama came with it bundled in

[01:03:59] and you would clip it to your controller

[01:04:01] because the troops don't move on their own.

[01:04:03] You have to give them orders verbally with a microphone.

[01:04:07] It's not super complicated.

[01:04:08] There's like 12 commands.

[01:04:10] But you have to do like, you have to hit a button

[01:04:12] and go march left and then go to the left.

[01:04:14] March right, retreat, push forward, push forward.

[01:04:18] They have very short attention spans.

[01:04:20] These are wire aware mini game players.

[01:04:23] They have very short attention spans.

[01:04:25] So as you're trying to get your troops to move forward

[01:04:28] and carry this bell across the field,

[01:04:29] you have to say push forward more times than I would like.

[01:04:32] But there's things like flank and destroy.

[01:04:36] Recall.

[01:04:37] If there's a certain thing on the screen

[01:04:38] you want them to go to,

[01:04:39] you move your cursor and say recall.

[01:04:42] It's wildly frantic.

[01:04:44] There is strategy to it.

[01:04:46] But it's hard to do strategy

[01:04:47] when there's a fucking ball flying across the screen

[01:04:50] because when that ball hits the gutter,

[01:04:52] game over and you've lost the battle

[01:04:53] and you got to start it all over again.

[01:04:54] It took me no less than 20 tries to beat the first stage.

[01:04:57] It's not an easy game but it's a pinball game.

[01:05:02] That's that is pinball.

[01:05:03] Yeah.

[01:05:04] I thought my follow-up game here was going to be like

[01:05:09] the epitome of weird games,

[01:05:12] but I think you've trumped me.

[01:05:15] Yeah.

[01:05:16] Yeah.

[01:05:17] This is what I had actually...

[01:05:19] You mentioned this the other day in Marco Polo

[01:05:21] letting us know this was your pick

[01:05:23] and I had never heard of this one.

[01:05:27] Like it's rare that I've not heard of a game at all.

[01:05:32] I've not heard of this one.

[01:05:34] I would have probably been all over this back then.

[01:05:38] Well, you want to take a guess who made this game

[01:05:40] or the creative director of this game.

[01:05:42] Take a guess what his earlier game was.

[01:05:45] Hideo Kojima.

[01:05:47] No.

[01:05:48] No.

[01:05:48] Sadly no.

[01:05:49] Clearly.

[01:05:50] I mean it's the Nintendo Bell

[01:05:51] so it's somebody at Nintendo, right?

[01:05:54] No.

[01:05:55] So what's his name?

[01:05:58] It's the guy who created Seaman or Seaman.

[01:06:02] Is it Seaman?

[01:06:03] Yes.

[01:06:03] It's the Seaman creator.

[01:06:04] He only did a handful of games.

[01:06:06] He did like SimTower, Seaman and Odama.

[01:06:08] I'm sorry.

[01:06:09] I'm sorry.

[01:06:10] Did you really just say the word Seaman

[01:06:11] and handful in the same sentence?

[01:06:14] I think we're going to have a clip that's going to be

[01:06:17] he's the man that invented Seaman.

[01:06:21] I had to start with somebody.

[01:06:22] It's the chicken and egg type thing.

[01:06:25] It's yeah.

[01:06:26] And then when you realize,

[01:06:28] okay it's the guy who made Seaman,

[01:06:29] it makes a bit more sense.

[01:06:30] Maybe not.

[01:06:31] It's still weird

[01:06:33] but it's not a terribly long game.

[01:06:35] I think Time to Beat said like three, four hours

[01:06:38] but every stage is for the most part unique.

[01:06:42] There's a lot of different mechanics

[01:06:43] that are kind of brought in as you play.

[01:06:44] I mean some later stages are in a circle

[01:06:46] and you have your bumpers on various angles.

[01:06:48] You have to rotate around to control them.

[01:06:51] There's one stage that has a giant

[01:06:54] that you have to take down like a boss.

[01:06:56] There's a weird twist in the last stage

[01:06:58] with some time travel.

[01:06:58] I don't want to spoil it but it gets weird.

[01:07:00] It's an RPG.

[01:07:01] It's a bizarre pinball game.

[01:07:05] There's not much of a way to ending

[01:07:07] but I will say the ending has one of the most

[01:07:10] banging ending theme songs that tracks

[01:07:12] I've heard in a long time.

[01:07:13] It feels like something straight out of like Cowboy Bebop

[01:07:16] in terms of like its tone.

[01:07:18] Again, for a game that's in the theme

[01:07:20] of ancient Japan and Samurais,

[01:07:22] it has like a really great ending song credits.

[01:07:25] Yeah.

[01:07:26] Because everybody knows that feudal Japan

[01:07:28] and Samurais, what do they love?

[01:07:30] Pinball and Cowboy Bebop.

[01:07:34] Yeah, and fast jazz.

[01:07:36] But yeah, this is a wild game.

[01:07:38] I don't know.

[01:07:39] It's a hard game

[01:07:40] and it can be a little bit tricky to set up.

[01:07:42] So you do need a microphone to play.

[01:07:45] If you own a Steam Deck,

[01:07:46] which I know a few of our listeners

[01:07:47] might own a Steam Deck,

[01:07:49] there is a way in the emulator options

[01:07:51] if you have a new deck installed

[01:07:52] or whatever emulator using,

[01:07:53] I think it's Dolphin I used.

[01:07:55] In the options, you can set a microphone

[01:07:57] and you can pull in the default microphone

[01:07:59] of the Steam Deck and it works beautifully.

[01:08:02] If you're playing on a PC,

[01:08:03] you have to find another way to put a microphone in.

[01:08:05] But it's worth the setup, I think, for this game.

[01:08:09] That's awesome.

[01:08:10] Awesome.

[01:08:10] Yeah.

[01:08:10] That's awesome.

[01:08:11] I'm curious about this one.

[01:08:12] I'm going to try each one of these games also,

[01:08:13] by the way.

[01:08:14] Everything mentioned today I want to try.

[01:08:16] Yeah.

[01:08:17] Except for getting one.

[01:08:17] This is one I'm going to have to give a shot to

[01:08:19] because this is wild.

[01:08:20] Yeah, this was very cool.

[01:08:23] Well, I have to follow up that.

[01:08:26] Yeah, good luck.

[01:08:28] Wow.

[01:08:28] Maybe we have a giant enemy crab.

[01:08:31] Oh, wait.

[01:08:32] No, it's a kaiju.

[01:08:34] Oh, no, no, no.

[01:08:38] There was that PS3 reveal game

[01:08:42] that was like ancient Japan.

[01:08:45] They were talking about the realism

[01:08:46] and then it got followed up.

[01:08:47] And here we have a giant enemy crab.

[01:08:51] Deep cut.

[01:08:53] Yeah, nice.

[01:08:54] All right.

[01:08:55] All right.

[01:08:55] Well, my second game,

[01:08:58] which I felt like was the epitome of a WTF game.

[01:09:02] It is.

[01:09:04] I'm sure a lot of people,

[01:09:06] I'm sure a very large amount of people

[01:09:09] are familiar with and have probably played

[01:09:11] Katamari Damacy or Damashi or Damacy

[01:09:15] or however you pronounce it.

[01:09:17] I think it literally means soul clump

[01:09:21] or something like that.

[01:09:22] Yeah, I think that's what it means.

[01:09:26] Let me Google that.

[01:09:27] Yeah, it's if you haven't,

[01:09:30] if you're not familiar with this,

[01:09:32] the whole premise is the galactic god.

[01:09:35] I don't remember.

[01:09:38] Gets drunk one night

[01:09:40] and destroys all of the stars of the universe

[01:09:44] except for apparently leaves the earth.

[01:09:45] So you have to go to the earth.

[01:09:47] He sends his son who is five centimeters tall.

[01:09:52] To go basically collect things to turn back into stars

[01:09:56] and become, you know, create, recreate the universe.

[01:09:59] And the way that it works is you have a ball

[01:10:01] and you roll over things.

[01:10:04] And if they are smaller than you or if you're smaller

[01:10:08] than the ball, you will pick them up.

[01:10:10] And it has one of the coolest control schemes.

[01:10:14] It's literally just the two sticks on the controller.

[01:10:19] You know, you kind of roll left or right.

[01:10:22] I guess it's a better version of tank controls, I would say.

[01:10:27] And it's very clever.

[01:10:31] You basically have a time limit

[01:10:33] and you have to become a certain size

[01:10:35] or you have to get, you know,

[01:10:36] collect enough things for the ball

[01:10:38] to become a certain size.

[01:10:39] And as you go, it starts to become larger and larger

[01:10:42] and you can pick up larger and larger things.

[01:10:44] Eventually you're picking up buildings

[01:10:46] when you're picking up other things.

[01:10:48] And what's great is sometimes you'll pick up things

[01:10:51] like say a pencil and it will make your collection ball,

[01:10:57] whatever it's called, so lopsided

[01:11:00] that it rolls incredibly strangely.

[01:11:03] Yeah, because you can roll up the pencil

[01:11:06] to where it's like stuck on a side

[01:11:08] and it's pretty flat or you could accidentally grab it

[01:11:10] with an edge and then it's like, whoop, whoop,

[01:11:12] whoop, whoop, whoop.

[01:11:13] Because it's like poked off the edge of the ball

[01:11:15] just straight out.

[01:11:16] Uh-huh, yeah.

[01:11:18] And then it has a two-player mechanism that's just great

[01:11:22] where you try to, you know, become the correct size

[01:11:27] faster than the opponent.

[01:11:28] But if you become large enough, fast enough,

[01:11:31] you can go roll over your opponent

[01:11:33] and kind of pick them up too.

[01:11:35] So yeah, it's this crazy, you know, strange,

[01:11:43] the creator of the game designed these characters

[01:11:46] their heads look like hammers and there's a reason why.

[01:11:50] I watched a little bit of a history on this.

[01:11:52] The creator was originally working on a racing game.

[01:11:57] He's one of these people that doesn't like to do things

[01:12:00] the same way as everything else and he got bored of this

[01:12:04] and so he came up with this concept of

[01:12:07] these hammer-headed people that would knock out humans

[01:12:10] and start driving them around

[01:12:12] and the characters just stuck.

[01:12:14] So that's why they have these weird,

[01:12:16] like a hammerhead looking, you know, things.

[01:12:19] And then as the...

[01:12:20] Weird.

[01:12:21] Now I never played more than just the first game

[01:12:24] in the series, but apparently there are all...

[01:12:27] There's a family of all of these.

[01:12:28] I think they refer to them as cousins

[01:12:30] and they kind of grow throughout the series.

[01:12:32] Yeah.

[01:12:34] Yeah.

[01:12:34] So I have Katamari Damashi.

[01:12:38] We love Katamari.

[01:12:40] Beautiful Katamari for the Xbox 360.

[01:12:43] And what was the...

[01:12:46] I have the one on PSP as well.

[01:12:47] I don't remember what that one was called.

[01:12:50] And that one actually throws a twist at you

[01:12:54] that the other ones don't.

[01:12:55] Is when you beat the game, during the credits,

[01:12:59] you're awarded with a side scrolling version of the game.

[01:13:03] Oh, cool.

[01:13:03] That's awesome.

[01:13:04] So it's like a 2D Katamari Damashi.

[01:13:07] It's really weird.

[01:13:08] That's awesome.

[01:13:08] Oh, and I'm watching the video

[01:13:10] That's awesome.

[01:13:11] Oh, and I'm watching the video and I had forgotten that

[01:13:14] as you roll over living things, they continue moving

[01:13:18] while they're in the...

[01:13:18] Yeah, wriggling.

[01:13:20] Or the human's legs are flopping back and forth.

[01:13:26] I'm impressed.

[01:13:26] I would like to...

[01:13:27] I'm sorry.

[01:13:28] I do want to interject real quick though and just say

[01:13:30] this is another great on-the-nose Sisyphean game.

[01:13:35] If Sysmas is rolling a bottle of people's and parts,

[01:13:43] that's a whole other kind of genre.

[01:13:44] Eternally rolling a ball is the thing.

[01:13:46] That was the most educated thing I'll ever say on here.

[01:13:49] That's crazy.

[01:13:51] This game graphically is impressive because all the

[01:13:53] different polygons of all the objects you pick up

[01:13:55] and stick together, there's some pretty impressive tech

[01:13:58] on this game and it looks pretty solid.

[01:14:00] I've never been a huge fan of PlayStation graphics

[01:14:02] but this one looks great.

[01:14:05] They also handle it in a creative way because as the

[01:14:07] ball gets bigger, obviously the PS2 can't handle all

[01:14:10] those polygons and all that in the ball at once.

[01:14:14] So when you get bigger, the little things just

[01:14:16] sort of disappear and the world gets smaller.

[01:14:21] And so it loads up like a different version of the

[01:14:23] world where the objects are all smaller and slightly

[01:14:27] less detailed.

[01:14:29] Make sense?

[01:14:31] Yeah.

[01:14:32] Yeah.

[01:14:33] Cool.

[01:14:35] Yeah and this one's a blast to play.

[01:14:37] So either find it originally or use the dreaded

[01:14:42] E word, emulate it or something but yeah,

[01:14:45] this one's a great game to play.

[01:14:48] Well, Re-Roll is out on PC and all modern consoles

[01:14:52] as well and Re-Roll is the remake.

[01:14:53] And that's a remaster of the first game I think, right?

[01:14:55] Yeah, it's a remaster of the original game

[01:14:57] and I think they did a re-roll of the second one too, right?

[01:15:02] I think so.

[01:15:04] Yeah.

[01:15:05] Yeah, we love Katamari Re-Roll.

[01:15:07] Yeah.

[01:15:08] Nice.

[01:15:09] Yeah, I may have to but I think this is one

[01:15:11] that me and my son could play together that

[01:15:13] he would really enjoy.

[01:15:15] And it's just so not goofy.

[01:15:18] It's awesome.

[01:15:20] But I think this is definitely something he

[01:15:22] and I would be into.

[01:15:24] Yeah.

[01:15:24] And when you imagine this...

[01:15:26] Huh?

[01:15:26] Go ahead.

[01:15:29] Go ahead, GP.

[01:15:30] Okay.

[01:15:31] I was aware of this game when it came out

[01:15:33] because I remember...

[01:15:35] Who was playing it?

[01:15:36] I remember seeing it though and thinking like,

[01:15:37] oh that's a fun thing.

[01:15:39] And then kind of like forgetting it

[01:15:41] but every now and then it'll pop up somewhere in the world.

[01:15:43] And I'm always like, oh yeah, I should try that.

[01:15:46] So yeah, again, great couple of lists on everybody's

[01:15:51] but this will probably be the first of them that I try.

[01:15:56] Yeah, this is another one of those games

[01:15:57] that when I saw it on the shelf at the GameStop

[01:15:59] I was like, yeah, I gotta get that.

[01:16:02] I don't know.

[01:16:03] I kind of want to play feudal pinball murder simulator.

[01:16:10] Yeah.

[01:16:11] With splashes of bebop.

[01:16:13] Yeah.

[01:16:13] Yeah.

[01:16:14] And now, it kind of...

[01:16:17] Sorry, Wolf, but I got to say this real quick.

[01:16:20] When Sinistar told me about this pick

[01:16:22] and I'm like, I remember that game was jamming.

[01:16:24] And then as soon as I pulled the video

[01:16:26] the opening five seconds, the theme kicks in

[01:16:29] and it's like, da da da da da da da da da da da da.

[01:16:34] And you're just like, yeah, that game is iconic for a reason.

[01:16:37] The soundtrack is really good.

[01:16:39] Yeah.

[01:16:41] Yeah, the guy that did the soundtrack

[01:16:43] did a number of the Bandai Namco, like Tekken and a few others.

[01:16:49] Yeah.

[01:16:51] This is another one of those games though

[01:16:53] where the soundtrack is just super wacky

[01:16:55] but also full of bangers.

[01:16:57] Yeah.

[01:17:00] Yeah.

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[01:18:02] talk about that you're doing or, you know?

[01:18:08] You want to start?

[01:18:09] Yeah.

[01:18:09] Go ahead.

[01:18:10] So yeah, I'm just going to shout out Enimal Well again.

[01:18:13] Is it a game of the year?

[01:18:14] No.

[01:18:15] The game should play.

[01:18:16] Yes.

[01:18:17] Grab it on Steam sell at the very least and check it out.

[01:18:19] It's one of those games where it's deceiving when you first play it.

[01:18:23] There's definitely layers to it.

[01:18:25] There's certainly a layer of puzzles that you're never going to interact with.

[01:18:28] It's fine.

[01:18:29] But I will say the other day when I put ink in my computer or my computer,

[01:18:33] I put ink in my printer.

[01:18:35] It started printing off a sheet and on that sheet was an image from Enimal Well

[01:18:41] because I'm at a level in that game where it's doing that now

[01:18:44] and that was pretty interesting.

[01:18:45] So it's a very interesting game.

[01:18:46] It's not quite tunic interesting, but it's an interesting game.

[01:18:50] I heard you say you put ink in your computer and I was like,

[01:18:52] oh, you're playing WarioWare again?

[01:18:57] Anyway, Wolf, what were you going to say, Wolf?

[01:18:59] Oh, I was just going to say, I like I know I keep saying I'm going to do this.

[01:19:06] I'm kind of waiting till summer kids got a couple of weeks left to school

[01:19:09] and then I'll be able to do the streaming of like Turbo Kid and

[01:19:13] or at least uploading videos of them Turbo Kid and Okami,

[01:19:17] my Sisyphean game.

[01:19:18] I'll finally get to start it.

[01:19:20] I beat my last one last summer too, so it's fine.

[01:19:23] Um, but I'm I'm also thinking of just doing Metroidvania games for the channel in general,

[01:19:32] just to test them out and see what I think of them.

[01:19:34] So nice.

[01:19:37] Very cool.

[01:19:38] I tried the demo for Gestalt the other day and that was rad.

[01:19:41] So I'm like, kind of into it right now.

[01:19:45] Excellent.

[01:19:46] Anything else?

[01:19:49] All right.

[01:19:50] Well, folks, I appreciate you all being here with me for this.

[01:19:55] I think this was a great discussion.

[01:19:57] And yeah, that's been another Press B to cancel.