Press B 207: Hidden gem games you missed

[00:00:00] In the immortal words of Rihanna,

[00:00:02] Work, work, work.

[00:00:05] Shine bright like a diamond.

[00:00:09] These are hidden gems again.

[00:00:11] Again.

[00:00:12] Today on...

[00:00:13] We fell in love at a hopeless place.

[00:00:35] Don't lyricize over the opener.

[00:00:38] Yeah, don't quote Rihanna over the intro.

[00:00:42] Oh boy.

[00:00:43] Your face refracts.

[00:00:44] Welcome...

[00:00:45] Oh shush.

[00:00:47] Everybody, another episode of Press B To Cancel.

[00:00:49] Your favorite podcast for the next 60 minutes.

[00:00:51] After that, we lose steam.

[00:00:53] At least that's what I'm told in bed.

[00:00:55] This week, we are joined by a special guest,

[00:00:57] which we'll get to in a minute.

[00:00:59] But let's start with the usual crew chart.

[00:01:01] How you doing this week?

[00:01:02] I'm good.

[00:01:03] I'm good.

[00:01:04] You can go a whole 60, huh?

[00:01:07] Well, I do have three kids.

[00:01:09] Wolf, you got some kids.

[00:01:11] Or at least one.

[00:01:12] I got one.

[00:01:13] How are you doing this week?

[00:01:14] I am doing all right.

[00:01:16] I won't be doing as well tomorrow after four hours of yard work,

[00:01:20] like I said today.

[00:01:21] But I'm doing okay right now.

[00:01:23] I made it down the stairs and back up.

[00:01:25] I'll be fine.

[00:01:26] That's a win.

[00:01:28] That's all we need at our age, honestly.

[00:01:30] I was going to say...

[00:01:31] A couple stairs.

[00:01:32] That's a big win in our age.

[00:01:33] I made it up the stairs and felt good about it.

[00:01:36] Ripped to those calves.

[00:01:37] Or one knee creaks.

[00:01:38] I'm good.

[00:01:40] No, it's the knees, man.

[00:01:41] It's the knees.

[00:01:42] And then we're also joined by a special guest this week,

[00:01:45] Aaron from Super Pod Saga.

[00:01:46] Thanks for joining this week, Aaron.

[00:01:47] How about say hi and tell people about your show?

[00:01:50] Hello.

[00:01:51] Thanks for having me.

[00:01:52] It's cool to be here.

[00:01:53] You guys got a...

[00:01:54] I saw you had an RC Cola vending machine out in the lobby of the old Press B to

[00:01:58] cancel studios.

[00:01:59] So that's really...

[00:02:00] Holy shit.

[00:02:01] Wolf just jumped out of his chair.

[00:02:02] What the...

[00:02:03] He's Roman again.

[00:02:04] He's Roman.

[00:02:05] I looked away for a second.

[00:02:06] One man wolf pack.

[00:02:07] I just laid on my wall.

[00:02:08] I'd like to get a can of RC Cola.

[00:02:12] We didn't realize that it was refilled.

[00:02:17] We were excited about getting some more soda.

[00:02:19] I almost thought about bringing up...

[00:02:21] I thought about bringing up like Big Red or something, but I don't want to like

[00:02:26] disgrace your show.

[00:02:28] Is it Big Red like the off-brand Dr. Pepper?

[00:02:32] That's Dr. Thunder.

[00:02:33] Is it Big Red the gum?

[00:02:35] And that's Walmart brand.

[00:02:36] Yeah, I thought Big Red was the gum.

[00:02:39] It is.

[00:02:41] It's like a soda.

[00:02:42] It's like a red cream soda.

[00:02:44] It's labeled as such too, red cream soda, but it's weird.

[00:02:47] It doesn't taste like cream soda.

[00:02:49] Probably just because it's red though.

[00:02:50] It's got that ropotocin in it.

[00:02:51] A little shot of ropotocin or something.

[00:02:54] The up here with cream soda is clear and if it's not clear I can't stand it, but

[00:02:58] I don't even know if you can buy clear cream soda anymore.

[00:03:00] I don't think you can.

[00:03:01] I don't think so.

[00:03:02] Isn't like A&W kind of like...

[00:03:04] I think Jones.

[00:03:05] Jones soda is clear.

[00:03:07] Oh, that's right.

[00:03:08] Yeah, Jones is soda.

[00:03:09] Okay.

[00:03:10] They're still clear.

[00:03:11] Yeah, but it's just a Canadian thing like for the longest time because we have Canada

[00:03:16] Dry, but Canada Dry used to do a cream soda when I was a kid and it used to be clear.

[00:03:19] I used to like that stuff.

[00:03:21] That's the Canadian content requirement for the hour.

[00:03:24] I'd hate to see Canada wet.

[00:03:27] Well, we are also getting rain apparently tomorrow and I also have yard work to

[00:03:31] do so, but my yard is nowhere near as big as Wolf's.

[00:03:35] That's okay.

[00:03:36] What are we doing today?

[00:03:37] Oh, okay.

[00:03:38] So it's been a long week.

[00:03:39] We're shining bright like a diamond.

[00:03:41] We are shining bright like a diamond.

[00:03:43] So April Fools, we did an episode on hidden gems that obviously were as a gag,

[00:03:48] we're not actually hidden, but we did after that episode want to actually have a real

[00:03:53] hidden gems episode again for reals this time, games that are actually hidden gems

[00:03:58] and GP is not here to fuck it up with his pick.

[00:04:01] So we're not going to get something stupid like Final Fantasy Tactics.

[00:04:06] No, no, no.

[00:04:07] This time pure 100% hidden gems.

[00:04:10] Even Aaron's in on the meme now.

[00:04:12] Fantastic.

[00:04:13] Let's go.

[00:04:15] It's it's so good.

[00:04:17] I mean, it's funny.

[00:04:18] It's up there with tunnels and force in a star.

[00:04:20] So let's look at I guess who wants to talk or give their pick first for hidden

[00:04:24] gem? Who wants to start?

[00:04:25] I'm going to go first because every time we do this, Jake steals mine.

[00:04:30] Great. So Wolf, you want to start?

[00:04:32] Son of a bitch.

[00:04:34] No, I'm going first because I'm tired of getting usurped Canadian dictator.

[00:04:40] I'm not going to steal your pick.

[00:04:42] I haven't even played your pick.

[00:04:43] I don't even know what they are.

[00:04:44] It's fine.

[00:04:45] Don't worry about it.

[00:04:46] We actually we had to use studies to make sure that we indeed these see

[00:04:50] these two don't seem like they'd be hidden gems to me because of my

[00:04:53] community and my play style.

[00:04:55] It just seems like something that would be out there.

[00:04:58] But I do have two, but I'm going to pick the first one here and go with

[00:05:04] Madison. Madison is a first person horror.

[00:05:08] It's not really a survivor game because you just survive.

[00:05:12] It's not like Resident Evil where you are trying to find stuff to

[00:05:16] survive. It's basically a big, big world of a story that you

[00:05:22] are in, and it's full of jump scares and full of terror.

[00:05:25] And you are only armed with a Polaroid camera to take pictures

[00:05:31] of the demons and try and fight them off.

[00:05:34] So essentially you come into your house, it's kind of fatal framey,

[00:05:40] but one of the more terrifying games that I've played.

[00:05:43] You come into your house and you're locked in a room and you

[00:05:46] eventually break out and you find this camera that's got,

[00:05:49] I believe your name Luca on it written in some kind of pin

[00:05:53] that your grandma left for you, but you can't find grandma because

[00:05:58] grandma is too busy being fucking possessed by some awful

[00:06:02] demon and is roaming around the house trying to scare you.

[00:06:06] Now, this house is elaborate in huge and very dark and twisted.

[00:06:11] And there's also a demon called Blue Knees, which is one of

[00:06:15] the more frightening things that I've seen since my days

[00:06:18] of Visage. But yeah, this game messed me up.

[00:06:23] It was quite terrifying.

[00:06:25] Had a lot of good jump scares on it.

[00:06:26] And it's a great play, and I would recommend this to anybody

[00:06:33] who's into any kind of horror type fashion game.

[00:06:36] I guess we would call it.

[00:06:37] It's not survival horror.

[00:06:39] It's psychological horror game that messes with your mind

[00:06:43] as you play it.

[00:06:44] That's the path that they take.

[00:06:45] Nice.

[00:06:46] You said armed with a camera like a Polaroid.

[00:06:50] So are you a paparazzi or something?

[00:06:51] Like, how does this work?

[00:06:52] How is that a weapon for you in this game?

[00:06:54] Is it a weapon?

[00:06:56] Hold on.

[00:06:56] Beat them with it.

[00:06:57] Just no die.

[00:06:59] Based on other horror games I've played, I'm assuming it's

[00:07:04] used to sort of keep the spirits or entities at bay a

[00:07:08] little bit.

[00:07:08] Yes, there is.

[00:07:09] It is.

[00:07:10] The flash is used to kind of help ward off some of the

[00:07:15] things that do come at you.

[00:07:16] But it's not in the same use as Visage for most of

[00:07:20] you seen or played Visage.

[00:07:21] Most of you should know about that because I've played

[00:07:24] it a couple of times with you guys.

[00:07:25] But it's not used so much as a light source as the one

[00:07:27] in Visage is.

[00:07:28] This one is used to solve puzzles.

[00:07:30] So you'll take a picture of something and something will

[00:07:33] show up in the camera that you don't see with your

[00:07:35] actual eyes.

[00:07:36] So you pull it out and you do the Polaroid flip thing

[00:07:39] and it'll have something that you can catch.

[00:07:42] If you take a picture of the demon with it, then it

[00:07:44] comes out black and red.

[00:07:45] Like you can't see anything in the frame.

[00:07:48] So there's a lot of the times where you're trying to

[00:07:50] fight something off that's coming at you real fast.

[00:07:52] And for instance, just now.

[00:07:56] Yeah, you guys a little bit behind me on the delay.

[00:07:59] So I just got the pants scared off.

[00:08:01] I mean, that's great.

[00:08:02] Yeah, it is horrifying.

[00:08:04] It is extremely well designed and there's a lot of

[00:08:07] sections where you kind of time travel in this game.

[00:08:11] It's a total mess.

[00:08:12] Let me completely just it's just a mess like you're

[00:08:16] in a house, but you freaking go everywhere in the

[00:08:18] world.

[00:08:19] And there's some really, really, really stressful

[00:08:23] situations that come through with this game.

[00:08:26] It's beautifully done.

[00:08:27] It's fairly recent.

[00:08:28] I think it's only like three years old or something

[00:08:31] like that.

[00:08:32] But if you are really into getting the pants scared

[00:08:35] off of you while trying to solve puzzles would

[00:08:38] highly, highly suggest playing this game.

[00:08:40] It has great potential and it is quite, quite,

[00:08:45] quite horrifying.

[00:08:48] Nice.

[00:08:48] One of the first things that I saw upon Googling

[00:08:52] the game was that terrifying little demon guy with

[00:08:54] a little red almost clown nose and the horrifying

[00:08:57] sharp teeth.

[00:08:58] So that's cool.

[00:08:59] Looks that would be blue knees.

[00:09:01] Blue knees is terrible.

[00:09:02] There's actually a song at the game that's played

[00:09:05] on like a 1920s fucking record and it plays all

[00:09:10] over the and it's this high pitched singing voice

[00:09:12] with the crackling record going on.

[00:09:15] And it's awful.

[00:09:17] It's awful and it's terrifying.

[00:09:20] There are a few games that I can honestly say

[00:09:22] that have really kept me up at night.

[00:09:27] Visage, obviously being the top of the list

[00:09:29] for that alien isolation, which I would have

[00:09:31] easily picked.

[00:09:32] But knowing that is not a hidden gem because

[00:09:34] it is super popular is another one.

[00:09:36] But this one is no slouch.

[00:09:39] It is quite the contender for both alien

[00:09:42] and Visage with its ability to just scare the

[00:09:44] absolute living piss out of you and keep it

[00:09:48] fresh.

[00:09:49] It very much keeps things fresh and the difficulty

[00:09:53] level isn't too hard, I don't think.

[00:09:55] Maybe it is.

[00:09:56] Maybe it's not.

[00:09:56] There were a few things that I got hung up on

[00:09:59] but we seem to kind of soldier through it.

[00:10:01] So if you are brave enough to continue fighting

[00:10:05] through all that crap, then it's not a bad finish.

[00:10:09] It's a really good game.

[00:10:10] It's been a lot of fun.

[00:10:11] Yeah.

[00:10:12] Nice.

[00:10:13] I know, Char, when we talked about this before

[00:10:14] the show, you were trying to figure out if it

[00:10:16] was actually a hidden gem or not because this

[00:10:19] is your jam.

[00:10:19] These are the kind of games that you like to

[00:10:21] play.

[00:10:21] You play all kinds of horror games.

[00:10:23] And I had heard of this game only because

[00:10:25] of you but we had looked at Steam charts

[00:10:28] for tracking to see how popular this game

[00:10:30] is on Steam.

[00:10:32] Its all-time peak players was 384.

[00:10:34] So not a whole lot of people have played

[00:10:36] this game or at least playing it concurrently.

[00:10:38] And that's probably back when it came out.

[00:10:40] So this is, I think, the definition of a hidden

[00:10:43] gem.

[00:10:44] Just the way you explained it and explained

[00:10:46] this game in the horror element.

[00:10:47] The graphics look outstanding.

[00:10:49] The atmosphere is creepy as hell.

[00:10:51] I mean, it got jumpscared at me and I'm

[00:10:52] not even freaking playing the game.

[00:10:56] But I mean, so few people playing this.

[00:10:58] That sucks that a game like this where

[00:11:00] it's obviously a lot of work and polish went

[00:11:02] into this game that so few people are playing

[00:11:04] it.

[00:11:05] So I think this is the very definition of

[00:11:06] a hidden gem.

[00:11:07] Sweet.

[00:11:08] Yeah, I worry about these.

[00:11:09] A lot of the horror games that I play, I feel

[00:11:11] like within the horror gaming community, people

[00:11:15] would know about it.

[00:11:16] This just seems like a standard.

[00:11:17] Yeah.

[00:11:18] Oh, yeah.

[00:11:18] Fucking Madison.

[00:11:19] It's right up there with all these other

[00:11:20] fucking games.

[00:11:21] Yeah, it's just Madison.

[00:11:22] You know, and I had to ask Jake because

[00:11:25] I wanted to make sure that I wasn't picking

[00:11:27] something like because we were like, well,

[00:11:29] Fasmo.

[00:11:30] But Fasmo is clearly not a hidden gem.

[00:11:32] It is extremely popular and has ushered in

[00:11:35] numerous ghost hunting type games beyond that.

[00:11:38] So I kind of tongue in cheek was like, oh,

[00:11:40] I want to wear Fasmo.

[00:11:42] And he was talking about the millions and then

[00:11:45] he looked at these numbers and he's like,

[00:11:46] yeah, 400.

[00:11:47] And I went that is far too low for how good

[00:11:50] of a game this is.

[00:11:52] It's interesting because 10 years ago, the

[00:11:55] idea of ghost hunting being a genre of video

[00:11:58] games, it's just unheard of.

[00:12:00] I don't think there's any that go back that

[00:12:01] far, but definitely in the last couple of

[00:12:03] years, it's really taken off.

[00:12:04] I mean, there's definitely a whole niche for

[00:12:06] this in the horror games market.

[00:12:08] And Fasmo is super popular and their sons of

[00:12:11] the forest, but they're all like online games

[00:12:14] or co-op games, whereas this is just strictly

[00:12:16] single player, right?

[00:12:17] Right.

[00:12:17] Yeah, this is not a group, a group gaming.

[00:12:20] This is a single player solo mission kind

[00:12:23] of run.

[00:12:23] So if you're feeling brave, it's real good

[00:12:26] for Halloween.

[00:12:26] I'll tell you what, it's real good for

[00:12:28] Halloween.

[00:12:30] Yeah, that's all.

[00:12:32] How long is it?

[00:12:32] Is it a long game?

[00:12:34] I think it took us two streams to do it and

[00:12:36] I played maybe six hours, two or three.

[00:12:40] It's a good amount.

[00:12:41] I wouldn't, 10 hours maybe.

[00:12:44] Maybe.

[00:12:44] It's pretty good for a horror game.

[00:12:47] Over here on Super Pod, we just did an

[00:12:50] episode on horror games earlier this month.

[00:12:52] I don't think we ever mentioned that

[00:12:54] game.

[00:12:55] Like the two dudes that I did the episode

[00:12:57] with, they're huge into horror games.

[00:12:59] I don't think we ever, ever mentioned

[00:13:01] that game ever.

[00:13:03] We even brought up Siren.

[00:13:04] You ever need another, even another

[00:13:05] horror game enthusiast on your channel,

[00:13:08] Mr. Aaron?

[00:13:09] I'll tell you what.

[00:13:09] Hell yeah.

[00:13:10] I'm all about it.

[00:13:10] The door's open.

[00:13:12] I love it.

[00:13:13] The door's always open.

[00:13:14] No RC Cola though, sorry.

[00:13:16] I thought I'd have enough for that.

[00:13:18] I'll just bring a six pack of Dr.

[00:13:19] Pepper with me.

[00:13:20] It's fine.

[00:13:20] Yes.

[00:13:22] You want a real horror story.

[00:13:23] You look at that case of Dr.

[00:13:24] Pepper.

[00:13:25] That's what I'm saying.

[00:13:27] I don't think Aaron is Canadian because

[00:13:28] he likes Dr. Pepper.

[00:13:30] Do you like Dr. Pepper?

[00:13:32] I do.

[00:13:32] That's like, that's like a main staple

[00:13:33] in our household.

[00:13:34] I'm, is it really?

[00:13:35] Shut it down.

[00:13:36] This is really Canada.

[00:13:38] Stream's over.

[00:13:39] Thanks everybody.

[00:13:41] Well, he said RC Cola was all on board.

[00:13:43] I love RC Cola.

[00:13:44] We could leave.

[00:13:45] RC Cola is good.

[00:13:47] I think it's, I don't know.

[00:13:49] Maybe I'm just weird.

[00:13:50] Like I don't mind.

[00:13:51] Like any soda I can get behind

[00:13:54] as long as it's not like,

[00:13:57] I'm struggling to think of one

[00:13:58] that I don't like honestly.

[00:14:02] What was the one?

[00:14:02] Big Red?

[00:14:03] Maybe?

[00:14:03] I don't know.

[00:14:05] The one you brought up earlier?

[00:14:07] Big Red.

[00:14:07] It's all, you know what?

[00:14:08] I hate Canada Dry.

[00:14:10] I hate that shit.

[00:14:14] You don't like Ginger Ale Charred?

[00:14:16] You don't like Good Taste?

[00:14:16] Is that what it is?

[00:14:17] You don't like the original?

[00:14:18] I like Mountain Dew.

[00:14:20] Oh man.

[00:14:21] Really?

[00:14:21] Why Mountain Dew?

[00:14:22] Yeah.

[00:14:22] Oh.

[00:14:24] Mountain Dew's good.

[00:14:24] I don't know.

[00:14:25] I mean, the one down there,

[00:14:26] you guys have caffeine in yours.

[00:14:27] We don't have caffeine in ours.

[00:14:28] We do now, but it's Mountain Dew Energy.

[00:14:30] What the fuck else is in Mountain Dew?

[00:14:32] What caffeine?

[00:14:33] Just sugar.

[00:14:34] I just thought it was lime green caffeine.

[00:14:37] No, there's a law up here.

[00:14:39] I think it's gone now,

[00:14:40] but there was a law before the Energy Drink craze

[00:14:42] where you couldn't have caffeine in non-cola pop.

[00:14:47] So Coke and root beer were fine if you want caffeine,

[00:14:49] but you couldn't do it in Sprite for example,

[00:14:51] and Mountain Dew was one of the ones you couldn't do it for.

[00:14:53] For the longest time Mountain Dew up here was caffeine free.

[00:14:56] So that's great.

[00:14:57] That's wild.

[00:14:58] It's different now.

[00:14:59] No wonder you don't have good taste.

[00:15:01] Everything's fucked up up there.

[00:15:03] It makes so much more sense now.

[00:15:06] It's too sweet because you've been drinking

[00:15:08] fucking sugar zero fucking everything.

[00:15:12] We are totally off base here.

[00:15:14] Who wants to go next?

[00:15:17] The real horror.

[00:15:18] I'm stealing this shit from fools back into the goddamn ocean.

[00:15:22] We'll just keep going around the circle.

[00:15:24] Wolf, how about you?

[00:15:25] What's yours?

[00:15:27] Uh, mine.

[00:15:28] Okay, hold on one sec.

[00:15:29] Sinistar from Chad is saying is root beer cola?

[00:15:31] No, asshole.

[00:15:32] It's not a cola, but it's still a darkly colored caramel color pop.

[00:15:36] I don't believe root beer has caffeine in it either.

[00:15:39] As a matter of-

[00:15:40] Some do.

[00:15:43] That's right.

[00:15:44] Yeah, yeah.

[00:15:46] Yes, that's the idea.

[00:15:48] And if mug doesn't have caffeine,

[00:15:50] because my wife used to drink mug when she was pregnant

[00:15:52] because you had to watch it caffeine when you're pregnant.

[00:15:54] And we get mug and AMW.

[00:15:58] I don't think AMW has caffeine in it either.

[00:16:00] Nope, just Sparks and some other-

[00:16:03] Dad's root beer is what we used to get,

[00:16:04] or IBC root beer is what we used to get when we were pregnant.

[00:16:06] IBC.

[00:16:07] That's God tier.

[00:16:08] IBC is God tier.

[00:16:10] Wow, we are so off the rails.

[00:16:14] I'm sorry.

[00:16:14] Hi!

[00:16:16] Go ahead, Wolf.

[00:16:17] Oh, Jesus, what was the name of my game?

[00:16:23] I'm drawing a blank on it.

[00:16:24] I know it's a horror game for the PS2.

[00:16:27] Is it something that a diamond does?

[00:16:30] Does it shine like a diamond?

[00:16:34] Thank you, sir.

[00:16:36] Oh, that's the idea you were talking about.

[00:16:40] So Haunting Ground is my hidden gem.

[00:16:42] And I think this is a game that sold less than

[00:16:46] 100,000 copies worldwide.

[00:16:49] Wow, that is a hidden gem.

[00:16:54] For a PS2 game released by Capcom,

[00:16:57] like that is not high sales numbers at all.

[00:17:00] No, there was a bunch of those that did that.

[00:17:03] Like there was that, Rule of Rose.

[00:17:07] What was that?

[00:17:07] Like Chuan?

[00:17:10] I think it was just called Chuan.

[00:17:12] No, no, not Chulip.

[00:17:16] No, no.

[00:17:18] I wonder, I often wonder why you're looking this up.

[00:17:21] If games like this were just part of the oversaturation of

[00:17:26] Capcom's horror tank control kind of games.

[00:17:30] Because I didn't hear about this until you said something

[00:17:32] about it, Wolf, and so I went and looked it up.

[00:17:34] And I went, whoa, this is cool looking.

[00:17:38] What the hell is this all about?

[00:17:40] So I wonder if it's...

[00:17:42] I've said this before.

[00:17:44] I'm not a huge horror gamer.

[00:17:45] And the reason is because I love the ideas that these

[00:17:49] horror games tend to present.

[00:17:50] I'm a huge chicken shit when playing horror games by myself in a room.

[00:17:54] So that's why.

[00:17:56] But this one, I didn't know at the time.

[00:18:02] Essentially like internally it was referred to as Clock Tower 3.

[00:18:09] So that'll give you an idea.

[00:18:11] Some of you who've ever played Clock Tower, Clock Tower 2,

[00:18:14] you'll have an idea of how this works.

[00:18:18] But essentially you're playing as a girl who wakes up after a car accident

[00:18:23] in a castle.

[00:18:25] No idea what's going on.

[00:18:27] She has no idea what's happened to her family, any of this, right?

[00:18:31] That's how I got into the podcast.

[00:18:33] Very quickly she comes across this dog that she releases.

[00:18:37] And so you go on your adventure as joined with a dog

[00:18:42] that you actually have to sort of train a little bit.

[00:18:46] Like the way you interact with it actually affects how it interacts back when you need its help.

[00:18:53] Oh, that's cool.

[00:18:54] Which is really cool.

[00:18:56] So you can negatively reinforce behaviors you don't want to see

[00:19:00] and positively reinforce behaviors you do want to see from it.

[00:19:04] And every once in a while you might accidentally hit the wrong button

[00:19:08] and then the dog feels bad.

[00:19:09] You're like, oh no!

[00:19:13] What have I done?

[00:19:14] Essentially you're this girl, she's 16, she's hypersexualized in this game.

[00:19:22] But that's kind of on purpose because all the characters in the game

[00:19:27] are hyper fixated on her as an object and not as a person.

[00:19:32] And so you're afraid of these other beings in the game

[00:19:36] because they're all just nut jobs.

[00:19:40] Like there's nothing good about any of them.

[00:19:43] They're all out there and just want to...

[00:19:47] Like the first guy wants to play with her like she's a doll.

[00:19:52] Yeah, that's kind of weird.

[00:19:52] This big dude who's like a gardener chasing her around with a chainsaw.

[00:20:00] And it's essentially stuff like that.

[00:20:02] And in this game you actually, as you're running away,

[00:20:04] you hear noises coming.

[00:20:06] You can go hide and stuff.

[00:20:08] So you can hide in a trunk or just behind a corner

[00:20:12] hidden by a window screen or something like that.

[00:20:15] There's lots of things you can hide behind

[00:20:17] where you can see them sort of come and wander off or whatever.

[00:20:22] And hiding is a huge part of it.

[00:20:27] Yes, Sinistar, that is the case.

[00:20:29] All the characters represent the internet as a personality.

[00:20:34] But yeah, like as she starts getting scared,

[00:20:38] it messes with how you perceive the game.

[00:20:41] So it drops the frame rate and it reduces color saturation.

[00:20:46] On purpose?

[00:20:48] Yes.

[00:20:48] You sure that wasn't just a design flaw on PS2?

[00:20:51] No, that's something that it does on purpose as she's more scared.

[00:20:55] That's wild.

[00:20:55] Quit hating on the PS2, Jake.

[00:20:57] It makes it hard to see what's going on

[00:21:02] so that you're like it inflicts the stress on the player too.

[00:21:07] Doesn't it also make like a really heavy motion blur?

[00:21:12] Yeah, yeah.

[00:21:13] There's heavy artifacting.

[00:21:14] So when the frame rate is really low

[00:21:17] and her heartbeat is just through the roof,

[00:21:20] it's like every frame is every half to full second

[00:21:24] and you're getting artifacting from all the previous frames as you're running.

[00:21:29] And so it just makes it super blurry and hard to see what's happening.

[00:21:34] Okay.

[00:21:35] It's really cool.

[00:21:36] I love this game.

[00:21:38] Yeah, that's very like Eternal Darkness kind of mess with your head.

[00:21:43] A little bit, yeah.

[00:21:45] I like that.

[00:21:47] I love the video that we're watching.

[00:21:48] For those who are listening to the audio podcast,

[00:21:50] on the video feed right now there's an option to enter the hole, yes or no.

[00:21:55] Why would you ever enter the hole in a creepy castle?

[00:21:58] Those holes are save rooms.

[00:22:01] They are.

[00:22:02] Or like Silent Hill 4, you have that one in your bathroom or whatever.

[00:22:05] Then you go to like the hell world.

[00:22:08] Yeah.

[00:22:09] Where's my hole?

[00:22:10] Why the hell not?

[00:22:11] Enter the hell hole.

[00:22:13] That's wild.

[00:22:14] Yeah, I'm gonna chart Wolf.

[00:22:15] When you mentioned this as your pick, I'm like I never heard of this game.

[00:22:19] I have a gap in my retro memory I guess for PS2.

[00:22:22] I never had a PS2 so there's a lot of stuff there I missed out on.

[00:22:25] But then you said it was a Capcom game.

[00:22:27] Right.

[00:22:27] I was really surprised because yeah, like chart, I've never heard.

[00:22:31] I mean outside of Resident Evil of course and Silent Hill,

[00:22:33] but Resident Evil is like the franchise for horror for Capcom.

[00:22:37] I'm surprised they didn't advertise this more.

[00:22:40] I wonder did it not?

[00:22:41] I guess it didn't sell very well.

[00:22:42] I guess it didn't sell very well.

[00:22:43] We used it 100,000 units which is low.

[00:22:45] It's super expensive now.

[00:22:47] And in the US, it sold like a fraction of what sold in Japan.

[00:22:52] So it only sold like I want to say 15, 20,000 units in North America.

[00:22:58] And so it's really expensive.

[00:23:00] I sold mine after I streamed it a few years ago.

[00:23:05] Wow.

[00:23:05] I was like all right.

[00:23:06] I played through it all.

[00:23:07] You paid off your mortgage.

[00:23:09] Yeah, I played through it all.

[00:23:10] I'm done with it.

[00:23:11] I'll sell it to somebody else.

[00:23:12] They can give me a bunch of money for it, but I pre-ordered this game.

[00:23:15] This was a game that I was super excited to get.

[00:23:18] Hell yeah.

[00:23:20] Yeah, I wonder if maybe it was on the tail end of some over saturation

[00:23:23] with Resident Evil and Silent Hill.

[00:23:25] Because we had Silent Hill 3 and we had how far to the Resident Evil 4 was on PS2

[00:23:31] if I'm not mistaken.

[00:23:32] Yeah.

[00:23:34] I went beyond that, but I think we had fourth time too.

[00:23:38] We just and everybody was just eating up the Ares and the Silent Hills.

[00:23:43] I've always been more of a Silent Hill guy on the other side of the Resident Evil coin.

[00:23:48] But I like the psychological mess with your head.

[00:23:54] I like when the game messes with the character and then in turn messes with you

[00:23:58] as the viewer to get that persona.

[00:24:02] Even though it's a third person look,

[00:24:05] you know, it's still messing with your head while you're playing it.

[00:24:07] Like, do I need to?

[00:24:09] Why is everything Sapia?

[00:24:10] What the fuck's going on?

[00:24:12] I think that's a real horror.

[00:24:14] True horror.

[00:24:15] Yeah, right?

[00:24:15] Sapia tone.

[00:24:16] Oh, it's Sapia.

[00:24:17] I'm taking Instagram pictures.

[00:24:19] What's going on?

[00:24:20] But I'm gonna wake up in the morning.

[00:24:22] And the training of the dog too, I think is a cool aspect as well.

[00:24:27] That's really learns as you play.

[00:24:29] I think.

[00:24:30] You give it command so it can go investigate little crevices that she can't get into

[00:24:35] or jump up on places she can't and get you items or whatever.

[00:24:40] So in the shot we just showed on the video,

[00:24:43] she sent the dog to jump up on this ledge that she wasn't able to get up

[00:24:47] and got a medallion for part of solving a puzzle.

[00:24:50] That's cool.

[00:24:51] And it looks good for a PS2 game.

[00:24:55] As a PS2 game, it looks good.

[00:24:57] It looks really, really well.

[00:24:59] PS2 is not good looking.

[00:25:01] It's not an A tier console.

[00:25:03] You say it looks like shit?

[00:25:04] They're Sony haters.

[00:25:05] There's a few games that are late PS2 era

[00:25:09] that don't look like what I remember PS2 looking like,

[00:25:12] and this is one of them.

[00:25:15] Silent Hill 3 is the same way.

[00:25:18] It does not.

[00:25:19] This looks a lot like Silent Hill.

[00:25:20] I was like, I don't remember PS2 looking this good.

[00:25:27] Is this a remaster?

[00:25:28] No, this is the actual game?

[00:25:31] I'm going to say for Resident Evil,

[00:25:33] I did like Resident Evil quite a bit,

[00:25:35] but it is very combat heavy.

[00:25:37] And at times you just kind of want the puzzles and the story,

[00:25:39] and especially 3.

[00:25:40] I found 3 really combat heavy and a bit much in spots.

[00:25:44] So this is the opposite,

[00:25:45] the complete opposite of the Spectrum.

[00:25:47] There's no combat in this, right?

[00:25:48] You're just running away?

[00:25:50] So yeah, there's no real combat.

[00:25:53] There's puzzle solving.

[00:25:55] And you do actually have to defeat

[00:25:57] the four characters that are chasing her down.

[00:26:00] Using puzzles.

[00:26:02] You have to overcome them via puzzles.

[00:26:05] And one of them, it's like an active,

[00:26:07] it's chasing you.

[00:26:09] You're going to die.

[00:26:11] You have to solve a puzzle while you're stuck in the room with it.

[00:26:14] Overcome the internet with these puzzles.

[00:26:17] Yeah.

[00:26:17] So it's really cool.

[00:26:19] It's very stressful game.

[00:26:21] Lot of fun.

[00:26:22] I cannot recommend this game enough if you like horror games.

[00:26:26] Yeah, it's all a pick.

[00:26:30] Take it.

[00:26:32] Good choice.

[00:26:32] Especially if you're not a silent.

[00:26:35] The focus that series again, especially if you're a Clocktower fan.

[00:26:39] Clocktower.

[00:26:40] Yeah, because this one, what is it?

[00:26:41] Came out after Clocktower 3, which was also a Capcom game.

[00:26:45] So they basically, I think that one was supposed to be like a spiritual successor

[00:26:50] to Clocktower because they're really fucking similar, but a lot less like cartoony,

[00:26:56] Clocktower 3, as rude as that is to say.

[00:26:59] Okay.

[00:26:59] So I didn't know there was a Clocktower 3 then.

[00:27:02] It's weird that that's the direction they went.

[00:27:04] They did this game as well as a Clocktower 3.

[00:27:07] I played this next one, but that's interesting.

[00:27:10] Maybe what you charge you right, it was an oversaturation of the genre.

[00:27:13] There was quite a bit of horror on the PS2, especially toward the end of its life.

[00:27:18] Everybody was tired of tank controls.

[00:27:19] They just wanted to run straight for a second, stop spinning in circles.

[00:27:24] God damn.

[00:27:25] Wasn't this analog, Wolf?

[00:27:27] It had to have been analog, right?

[00:27:28] Wasn't PS2 all analog?

[00:27:29] Oh, was it?

[00:27:31] Because Silent Hill 2 was tanky controls.

[00:27:34] I've never played this game.

[00:27:35] Oh yeah, okay.

[00:27:37] This fucking guy.

[00:27:38] I mean, he's just mad he didn't get to steal my game.

[00:27:40] There was two Siren games.

[00:27:43] There was an Echo Knight game.

[00:27:45] There was like three Fatal Frame games and then you had RE4.

[00:27:50] And there was two Silent Hill 4.

[00:27:51] No, three Silent Hill 4s on there.

[00:27:53] Or not Silent Hill 4, three Silent Hills on there.

[00:27:56] Yeah, it was three, the room.

[00:27:59] And what was the other one?

[00:28:00] It wasn't two?

[00:28:01] Wasn't two on PS2?

[00:28:02] Yeah, two.

[00:28:03] Yeah, two.

[00:28:03] You're right.

[00:28:04] You're right.

[00:28:05] And then Cold Fear.

[00:28:07] There's another deep cut for everybody.

[00:28:08] Cold Fear.

[00:28:09] Shout out to Cold Fear.

[00:28:12] Quick shout out to Cold Fear.

[00:28:13] RC Kola and Cold Fear, Big Red.

[00:28:17] All the great flavors and caffeine free.

[00:28:19] Oh boy, who's next on the old rotation?

[00:28:25] You are, Aaron.

[00:28:26] Diet Cold Fear.

[00:28:27] Yeah, it's up to you.

[00:28:28] What pick do you want to go first?

[00:28:29] Caffeine free Fear.

[00:28:31] Caffeine free Big Red.

[00:28:34] Oh man, okay.

[00:28:35] So Sushi Stryker, right?

[00:28:37] Everybody knows Sushi Stryker, right?

[00:28:41] No?

[00:28:41] I do actually, but I almost bought it,

[00:28:45] but I want to hear you talk about it.

[00:28:46] You should have.

[00:28:47] I had to lean forward to this because I got really passionate about Sushi Stryker.

[00:28:51] Oh boy.

[00:28:53] So, oh man, there's a lot.

[00:28:55] First of all, the production value in this game is fucking insane.

[00:29:00] There's like a little anime intro at the beginning that just hypes the living piss out of you.

[00:29:05] It's so fucking upbeat and so fun to just get one of these going to right at the beginning.

[00:29:12] And then there's all sorts of little anime cut scenes

[00:29:15] while you're going through the story and shit.

[00:29:18] You're going along like this map, basically like a

[00:29:23] almost like a Final Fantasy X kind of world map where it's like dot dot dot.

[00:29:27] Here's your destination and then shit like that.

[00:29:30] But you're basically just going from like stage to stage to stage,

[00:29:33] defeating enemies in combat and the combat, holy fuck.

[00:29:37] There's so many levels to this.

[00:29:39] So it's just like a puzzle game.

[00:29:44] I think there's like,

[00:29:46] so it's like a sushi conveyor belt kind of thing.

[00:29:50] There's I think three belts on your side, one in the middle that both you and your opponent share

[00:29:56] and there's three on the opponent's side as well too.

[00:29:58] And basically you're just connecting plates of the same color,

[00:30:02] as many as you possibly can.

[00:30:05] And then once you do, your character will eat the sushi.

[00:30:08] You'll have a stack of plates on your table.

[00:30:10] And that's how you attack the opponent is by throwing stacks of plates.

[00:30:13] So you'll make as many stacks like rack up just a shit ton of stacks.

[00:30:17] And the damage you do to your opponent with each attack

[00:30:21] kind of accumulates based on certain things.

[00:30:24] Like if you chain together one or more hits of the same color of plate stacks,

[00:30:31] if you happen to have like a rainbow plate in your plate stack as well,

[00:30:35] you also have these like Pokemon like sushi sprites that add different kind of abilities

[00:30:39] to like the main one you get in the story.

[00:30:42] What's his name?

[00:30:45] I don't remember his name.

[00:30:46] It's like Jiraiya or something like that,

[00:30:48] but he has an ability that makes it so you can link every single plate on the screen

[00:30:52] and just like one gigantic stack.

[00:30:55] There's just shit tons that you can mix and match their abilities together

[00:30:58] trying to make the perfect loadout.

[00:31:00] There's also other items you can equip,

[00:31:03] different ways to alter like how fast the belts go during combat.

[00:31:07] There's just so many fucking layers to the combat.

[00:31:11] And to top it off, it's just a fun little story,

[00:31:14] a little Saturday morning cartoon kind of thing where it's like the world,

[00:31:18] what is it?

[00:31:18] The sushi sprites create and control sushi,

[00:31:22] but there's this evil empire that's like,

[00:31:24] no, we're taking the sushi sprites so only we can have sushi.

[00:31:27] So everybody else in the world is like,

[00:31:29] oh, we could only have berries and shit.

[00:31:32] And so you as, what the fuck is the main character's name?

[00:31:39] I don't remember.

[00:31:40] I wish the video would help,

[00:31:40] but I think it's in German right now for some reason.

[00:31:43] So that's not so good.

[00:31:44] Is it the blonde kid?

[00:31:45] Yeah.

[00:31:46] Is it Azumi?

[00:31:48] Mashumi, yeah.

[00:31:50] No, it'll come to me later on.

[00:31:54] But yeah, you play as the main character who's just like,

[00:31:57] this shit don't fly.

[00:31:58] Musashi.

[00:32:00] There we go.

[00:32:00] Musashi.

[00:32:01] He's like, this shit don't fly.

[00:32:02] I'm going to get sushi back for everybody.

[00:32:04] So he goes on this quest to beat the empire,

[00:32:06] everybody gets sushi back, but all along the way, yeah, super fun.

[00:32:12] You can't play online on the 3DS anymore,

[00:32:14] which was like, because it came out on 3DS and Switch

[00:32:17] and like the 3DS is probably the best way to play with your little stylist,

[00:32:22] just getting all in there and precise and the Switch,

[00:32:26] which you could still, I guess, with your finger and stuff.

[00:32:30] I don't know how the hell it works on like when it's docked or something,

[00:32:34] but sushi strike rules.

[00:32:38] No Nintendo, there's probably motion controls with the Joy-Cons,

[00:32:42] which would be awful.

[00:32:44] Yeah, but I didn't realize it was on the 3DS.

[00:32:46] I just knew on the Switch because when the Switch first came out,

[00:32:50] I was all in on the digital front.

[00:32:52] I was all over that eShop because there are so many games

[00:32:54] that were not $60, right?

[00:32:56] They were $20 or less and I was scooping them up.

[00:33:00] And this is one of the games I almost picked up.

[00:33:01] I saw it.

[00:33:02] The only reason I didn't is it looked really hard

[00:33:05] and I have kids and it looked like it was a bit fast paced for them.

[00:33:08] So I didn't pick it up.

[00:33:09] I kind of regret it.

[00:33:10] This reminds me of a puzzle game called Clacks.

[00:33:13] I don't know if you guys remember Clacks.

[00:33:14] Oh, hell yeah.

[00:33:15] I remember Clacks.

[00:33:16] I had that for the links.

[00:33:17] Pretty much every system.

[00:33:18] Yeah, so, but this is obviously competitive.

[00:33:20] You're fighting somebody, but the whole matching three or matching stacks

[00:33:24] in this case, you're throwing them as a weapon is really cool.

[00:33:28] It's just really, it's like Clacks on cocaine.

[00:33:32] It's a very strange, strange thing, but I'm into it.

[00:33:35] This looks awesome.

[00:33:36] Oh yeah.

[00:33:37] Yeah, if you have a 3DS and you can track the 3DS version used to be like

[00:33:43] super fucking cheap, like Amazon was just basically giving it away for like five bucks.

[00:33:47] You just get a copy for five bucks, but I don't know anymore.

[00:33:51] That's my favorite way to play it.

[00:33:53] I have it on Switch as well too, but it's almost always just 40 bucks

[00:33:59] unless you happen to get a gift card or something.

[00:34:02] I don't know, but either way to play it, it's good.

[00:34:05] It's great.

[00:34:06] Yeah, the Switch does have a touchscreen,

[00:34:08] which is probably one of the most underused features on that system.

[00:34:12] It doesn't get used nearly enough.

[00:34:13] It's nice to see games that take advantage of it for sure.

[00:34:17] Yeah, that one especially.

[00:34:18] You can also just flick the plates at people and that's really cool too.

[00:34:23] I'm skipping ahead to the video and shit is fast.

[00:34:27] Talk about like we get to learn about games that maybe we would be interested in

[00:34:32] that you've not heard of, that you haven't had the opportunity to hear about.

[00:34:35] So this is some cool shit.

[00:34:38] I love these episodes.

[00:34:39] I'm always like, what am I going to play next?

[00:34:40] I'll just wait for a hidden gems episode

[00:34:42] and someone will tell me what I should play next.

[00:34:46] Yeah, this is pretty rad.

[00:34:50] Never heard of that one before.

[00:34:51] Final Fantasy X-2.

[00:34:55] I don't fucking know.

[00:34:57] The two means it didn't sell so well.

[00:34:58] That's what it means.

[00:35:00] This is awesome.

[00:35:01] I don't have much to say, except I love the graphics.

[00:35:04] I think it's a really cool style.

[00:35:06] It kind of reminds me of that Tetris Puyo Puyo game

[00:35:09] that was on the Switch as well with the GT anime graphics.

[00:35:12] But the gameplay in this one looks a hell of a lot better, a lot more polished.

[00:35:16] But it's pretty rad.

[00:35:18] I actually wonder if it's the same studio.

[00:35:19] I can barely tell what's happening in the game.

[00:35:22] Yeah, yes.

[00:35:25] Make your eyes cross.

[00:35:28] Who made this one, Aaron?

[00:35:29] Do you know?

[00:35:31] Let me look.

[00:35:32] I'm pretty sure it was...

[00:35:34] No, I'm not sure.

[00:35:35] All I know is that it was like first party Nintendo.

[00:35:38] Let's see.

[00:35:39] Sushi Striker, the way of Sushido.

[00:35:42] Indy's Zero.

[00:35:43] Great.

[00:35:44] Indy's Zero.

[00:35:47] It says that it was developed by Indy's Zero

[00:35:50] who also did...

[00:35:53] Dang, holy cow.

[00:35:55] So they developed Kingdom Hearts melody of memory for Xbox One.

[00:36:00] Oh, they did a bunch of theater rhythm and Dr. Kawashima.

[00:36:05] Oh, and NES remix.

[00:36:06] Okay.

[00:36:07] Oh, I love that.

[00:36:08] Interesting.

[00:36:09] Okay.

[00:36:10] Yeah, they did NES remix.

[00:36:12] As long as they didn't do Chain of Memories, we're fine.

[00:36:17] I'm looking.

[00:36:17] They did Big Brain Academy.

[00:36:19] Okay.

[00:36:19] That's legit.

[00:36:20] I wish I knew this before.

[00:36:21] Yeah.

[00:36:22] That's awesome.

[00:36:24] Cool.

[00:36:25] Okay.

[00:36:26] We know what Jake's next episode is going to be about.

[00:36:29] Sushi Striker is 60 minutes.

[00:36:31] That's what we're going to do.

[00:36:32] Let's go.

[00:36:34] We'll do a combo episode.

[00:36:36] Sushi Striker is the first half and then follow it up with Final Fantasy Tactics

[00:36:39] because that game does not get enough attention.

[00:36:43] No, it doesn't.

[00:36:44] Strong hidden gems dissected.

[00:36:48] All right.

[00:36:48] I'm just going to stall for a second as I pull my video up because

[00:36:51] that's how it works when I'm doing this.

[00:36:52] This is probably Jake's game of the year.

[00:36:54] This next game is going to be Jake's game of the year.

[00:36:56] Look, asshole.

[00:36:57] It might be.

[00:36:58] It might be because I'm playing a lot of it actually

[00:37:00] because I was reminded of how good it is.

[00:37:02] One could say it's a treasure as I hit the buttons.

[00:37:07] Like Crusader, which is a game by Treasure.

[00:37:10] I'm going to unpause the video.

[00:37:11] That's what we're going to do.

[00:37:12] Oh, I think I've heard of this one.

[00:37:15] I think if you...

[00:37:16] It's for Genesis, right?

[00:37:16] Yeah.

[00:37:17] It's actually Treasure's last release, Genesis title.

[00:37:21] Why is it I'm playing?

[00:37:22] Treasure is...

[00:37:23] I think I mostly know of them as the company that makes kick-ass hard games,

[00:37:27] especially shooters.

[00:37:28] Gunstar Heroes.

[00:37:30] They also have Diamond Heady, which is a fantastic platformer game.

[00:37:32] Oh, okay.

[00:37:33] Hell yeah.

[00:37:34] But those are awesome games but they're well known.

[00:37:38] This is a game that I think for them that is lesser known

[00:37:40] because it's nothing like that.

[00:37:42] It's actually a dungeon crawling RPG-ish type action RPG game,

[00:37:46] which is wild for Treasure.

[00:37:47] And I don't think people realize that.

[00:37:50] This is a Sega Channel special for me.

[00:37:52] This is when I played it back then when I had the Sega Channel as a kid.

[00:37:55] No idea what to expect with it.

[00:37:57] You start it up and it's one of those top-down,

[00:38:00] three-quarter view, isometric type views.

[00:38:02] And right off the bat, I know some people here don't like that kind of view.

[00:38:07] They don't like isometric platforming.

[00:38:10] Those people are wrong because it's great, especially when Mario was involved.

[00:38:15] But I'm going to talk about this game is better, maybe in a way,

[00:38:17] because there's shadows.

[00:38:18] You can actually see where the hell you're jumping.

[00:38:21] Which is important.

[00:38:22] Whatever.

[00:38:25] Mario RPG is pretty good.

[00:38:26] I'm going to say anyway.

[00:38:28] So you play as Gary Busey?

[00:38:32] That's Duckbutter Sausage.

[00:38:33] Oh, I could see that.

[00:38:36] Light Crusader starring Gary Busey.

[00:38:39] Oh my God.

[00:38:40] Well, now I can't unsee that.

[00:38:42] That's bad justice.

[00:38:43] Now that I look at it, it's like his face has been melted with acid.

[00:38:46] That's not a good look for the hero.

[00:38:48] That's awful.

[00:38:49] Gary Busey.

[00:38:54] You play Sir David and you enter this town

[00:38:58] and the townspeople are disappearing into the dungeon.

[00:39:01] In some ways, it reminds me of Diablo in a way,

[00:39:03] although obviously not as dark.

[00:39:05] And there's no loot involved.

[00:39:07] But it's an action platforming game.

[00:39:10] Kind of like Landstalker.

[00:39:12] For those who played Landstalker also in the Genesis,

[00:39:14] it reminded me at first glance like that.

[00:39:17] But this one's a lot more light and less grueling and punishing the puzzles.

[00:39:21] Landstalker is a game I know a lot of people fall off of

[00:39:24] because of how difficult it is.

[00:39:25] This game is a lot more straightforward.

[00:39:27] There's definitely puzzles, pushing up blocks,

[00:39:29] stacking things, using spells, but it's not as punishing.

[00:39:33] But I love it because two things.

[00:39:35] First thing, it's kind of stupid,

[00:39:37] but everything in the game can be pushed.

[00:39:40] Even the townspeople.

[00:39:41] You literally just walk into them and they slide across the floor.

[00:39:44] And you just push them.

[00:39:46] They don't do nothing, they don't react, they don't talk.

[00:39:48] It's as if they don't realize that you're just

[00:39:50] slowly shoving them across the floor.

[00:39:52] Was it Jemarie Qua?

[00:39:55] That music video where he slides across the floor?

[00:39:56] Yeah.

[00:39:57] That's what it reminds me of.

[00:39:59] Traveling without moving.

[00:40:00] Great album.

[00:40:01] Yes, that's the one.

[00:40:02] It's just awesome that you can slide everything.

[00:40:04] And to the game's benefit, you do use that in puzzles.

[00:40:07] There's puzzles where there's a lamp or something

[00:40:11] and it's a laser emitter.

[00:40:12] And you have to hit it to change the direction of the laser.

[00:40:14] And then you slide it across the floor, freeform,

[00:40:17] to line up with the door to open them up.

[00:40:19] It's cheesy and hacky,

[00:40:22] but it kind of works for what they're doing in this game.

[00:40:24] And I love it.

[00:40:25] I love a lot of the townspeople.

[00:40:27] They don't have a lot to say,

[00:40:28] but all of them have unique sprites.

[00:40:30] And there's a whimsy to the character designs I like quite a bit.

[00:40:34] But the best standout feature of this game is the magic system.

[00:40:38] There's four elements, right?

[00:40:40] I think it's air, water, spirit and fire.

[00:40:43] And at any time you can pull up the menu

[00:40:45] and you can equip different combinations of the elements

[00:40:47] and get different spells.

[00:40:49] So if you could buy it, I'm going to make it up.

[00:40:51] But if you could buy water with spirit, you get a cure spell.

[00:40:54] You do a fire, it's a heal spell for getting rid of poison.

[00:40:57] Very fantasy star form.

[00:40:59] Yeah, or you do...

[00:41:00] Exactly, you do earth and it's just a rock.

[00:41:02] You do earth with fire, you do a fireball.

[00:41:05] So there's a number of combinations of different spells

[00:41:07] and it's just fantastic.

[00:41:09] I have not seen that done in an action game like this.

[00:41:13] I don't think ever, right?

[00:41:14] Like you mentioned, some Final Fantasy games let you do that,

[00:41:16] but this is pretty awesome.

[00:41:18] So it's an interesting combat.

[00:41:21] Tons to explore.

[00:41:22] It's not a hugely long game.

[00:41:24] I think when I was a kid, I beat it in under 15 hours.

[00:41:27] So not super long, but that's okay.

[00:41:30] Because a game like this, especially if you get stuck on a puzzle,

[00:41:34] you don't want to bounce.

[00:41:35] So I think overall the challenge is pretty good.

[00:41:37] But I love it.

[00:41:39] The physics, the sliding things around, the platforming is there.

[00:41:42] I know people don't like that, but it's not super difficult.

[00:41:45] It's not like Solstice or Equinox where if you miss a jump,

[00:41:48] you hit spikes and you die instantly.

[00:41:50] You actually have a life bar.

[00:41:52] So it's not as punishing.

[00:41:53] There's also bosses.

[00:41:55] The bosses are final.

[00:41:56] See, I'm gonna find one of the bosses in the video.

[00:41:58] They're very interestingly designed.

[00:41:59] They have mechanics, different phases.

[00:42:01] And it just cool.

[00:42:02] Like this is...

[00:42:03] I'm gonna pull up for the people watching the video.

[00:42:05] It's a thing with eyes popping out of holes,

[00:42:08] that might trigger some people.

[00:42:10] But he has different wild attacks.

[00:42:12] Look away from the start.

[00:42:12] Look away.

[00:42:13] Yeah.

[00:42:14] Yeah, look away.

[00:42:15] Look away.

[00:42:15] And virtualize, but keep listening because we need the views.

[00:42:20] Especially for this kind of genre of game,

[00:42:23] to see a boss that has patterns of attacks, different attacks,

[00:42:27] it's definitely a treasure game at its heart.

[00:42:31] Because those are kind of games where it's known to have

[00:42:33] patterns for the bosses and different depth of mechanics.

[00:42:36] And you have that in this game, even though it's not the kind of genre

[00:42:39] that you expect from treasure.

[00:42:40] So sorry, I rambled on a lot, but I think this is a great one.

[00:42:43] That's okay.

[00:42:44] Rambling nuts.

[00:42:45] That's okay.

[00:42:46] This looks fun.

[00:42:49] The platforming doesn't seem like it'd be...

[00:42:52] Well, here we go.

[00:42:52] Now we got floating platforms.

[00:42:54] That's gonna completely change my mind.

[00:42:56] The jumping seems like it's a little bit better

[00:42:58] than the mysterious game that I hate that has the isometric drumming.

[00:43:04] I like the action in it.

[00:43:05] I think it's pretty cool.

[00:43:06] I was going to be under the impression that this is gonna have

[00:43:09] some kind of turn-based combat in it, but it doesn't.

[00:43:13] It has some pretty cool action-y type combat.

[00:43:16] It's got some cool puzzles.

[00:43:17] It's like if they de-made Elden Ring and you threw them in a dungeon.

[00:43:22] That's kind of what I'm getting with this whole thing.

[00:43:25] They made it a shit ton easier than Elden Ring.

[00:43:28] It's not particularly difficult, I think, I find.

[00:43:31] Because you have a health bar that's pretty generous, I think.

[00:43:34] Right.

[00:43:34] Well, you have a health bar in Elden Ring too.

[00:43:35] It just doesn't fucking matter.

[00:43:37] But I think the animation looks good.

[00:43:41] I'm really impressed for a 1995, I believe, game.

[00:43:45] It looks really clean on the Sega.

[00:43:47] It's extremely well done.

[00:43:48] This is definitely something that maybe as a child

[00:43:51] I should have picked up and given a shot

[00:43:53] because it's scratching the itch a little bit on certain things.

[00:43:57] This is cool.

[00:43:57] This is what Mario RPG should have been.

[00:44:01] I do remember reading about this in EGM and GamePro.

[00:44:05] But I never actually got to try it out.

[00:44:10] Yeah.

[00:44:10] One of the things about Phantasy Star that I like was the combination,

[00:44:16] making the super spells out of the combinations and stuff of the characters

[00:44:19] and adding that to this.

[00:44:21] It's probably not to that extent, of course, but I still think it's pretty cool.

[00:44:25] You do a diving slash thing.

[00:44:27] That's kind of cool.

[00:44:28] This is you're fighting a dragon in the video.

[00:44:30] For those of you who are not watching the video, listen to podcasts.

[00:44:33] There's a fight between a very...

[00:44:37] When people were using balls to connect necks and tails

[00:44:41] during the 95 movement of balls fighting.

[00:44:44] Pinnacle graphic design.

[00:44:45] Yeah, pinnacle graphic design has made everything look more pliable.

[00:44:50] You're fighting a dragon here, but he's doing this literal Superman flying stab thing on him.

[00:44:56] And it's pretty clever.

[00:44:59] Yeah, it's weird to say isometric action RPG.

[00:45:04] You do not imagine the game seemingly playing like Golden Axe, but it does.

[00:45:09] Yeah.

[00:45:09] Yeah.

[00:45:10] Yes.

[00:45:12] It's very fast paced combat.

[00:45:14] It's not slow at all.

[00:45:16] And when you beat the boss, he does a flourish with his sword.

[00:45:20] Yeah, it's a style to it.

[00:45:21] This makes me wonder if it has RA.

[00:45:23] I should look it up.

[00:45:25] The archivos?

[00:45:26] Oh, probably.

[00:45:27] Yeah, I bet it's on RA.

[00:45:28] The magic reminds me of Castlevania Circle of the Moon a little bit.

[00:45:32] Because you could mix them.

[00:45:33] Oh, yeah.

[00:45:35] Holy shit.

[00:45:35] You could mix and match the cards and make like...

[00:45:38] You would mix a god with a certain element and then make stone armor or something stupid

[00:45:43] or that kind of shit.

[00:45:45] That's so cool.

[00:45:46] More games need to do that.

[00:45:48] And you're fucking Sir Gary Busey.

[00:45:50] That's excellent.

[00:45:55] Yeah, it's pretty wild.

[00:45:56] It's a great one.

[00:45:57] And like I said, for a game made by Treasure, which is...

[00:46:01] One of the more well-known studios in retro gaming right now is Treasure

[00:46:05] because everybody knows they make great games.

[00:46:07] This is one that I never see on those lists.

[00:46:09] It's always Dynamite Heady.

[00:46:10] It's always...

[00:46:11] Was it UQ Mission Makers was Treasure?

[00:46:13] Yeah.

[00:46:14] Ronald McDonald.

[00:46:15] Yeah, that's another one of them.

[00:46:16] Actually, that's a good one too.

[00:46:18] But yeah, I mean an action RPG on the Genesis.

[00:46:20] Especially for the system.

[00:46:21] The Genesis does not have that many role playing games

[00:46:25] or any games like this.

[00:46:26] Can confirm.

[00:46:27] So it's nice.

[00:46:28] Yeah, so this is one that at least is good on the system.

[00:46:32] So, all right.

[00:46:34] I dig it.

[00:46:34] That's a cool one.

[00:46:36] That one came out of left field on this one.

[00:46:38] I dig that one.

[00:46:39] I think that's a cool looking game.

[00:46:41] What left field?

[00:46:42] It could be a hidden gem.

[00:46:44] It just might be a hidden gem from Treasure.

[00:46:48] Ironic.

[00:46:49] Let's loop back a guess.

[00:46:50] Let's go back to Chard.

[00:46:52] See, we didn't steal your picks.

[00:46:54] You didn't.

[00:46:54] Well, I'm going to stay in the same vein.

[00:46:58] Show me Final Fantasy tactics.

[00:47:00] I know.

[00:47:01] Show me.

[00:47:03] What is a hidden gem that everybody knows about?

[00:47:08] Anyways, so I'm going to stay within the whole horror game sequence.

[00:47:12] And this is actually surprises me that this would even be considered a hidden gem.

[00:47:17] But it's actually probably more of a hidden gem than the first game I talked about,

[00:47:21] according to Jake and his stats that he found for me.

[00:47:25] We're going to talk.

[00:47:26] No, don't shake your head, Jake.

[00:47:27] You got me good stats to be like this is arguably a hidden gem.

[00:47:32] I'm like that dog in Haunting Ground.

[00:47:33] I'm just so used to the neglect and the abuse when I get praised.

[00:47:36] I don't know how to recognize it anymore.

[00:47:39] So beaten for my picks every week.

[00:47:42] Go get me that giant on that ledge, please.

[00:47:46] Get fucked, nerd.

[00:47:50] Anyways, this game is extremely popular amongst my group of friends.

[00:47:53] And we do this game quite often on our scary Saturday night streams that

[00:47:59] I'll eventually bring back to Chardbunk at Twitch.tv.

[00:48:04] This game is called Devour.

[00:48:05] There's a four person co-op game, and the entire intent of the game is to

[00:48:11] stop a demon from gaining more power and basically killing you.

[00:48:18] You play with a group of people up to four, and you get a UV light.

[00:48:24] And the concept is you collect possessed items.

[00:48:28] Some of them are rats, some of them are goats, some of them are stones, and some of them are.

[00:48:35] Oh, what's the shit that we get in the Western place?

[00:48:38] I don't know.

[00:48:39] I forget.

[00:48:39] It's been a while since we played it, but you have to light an altar

[00:48:44] that's on every level, get it on fire, and then toss the possessed items into the fire

[00:48:50] to make them un-possessed.

[00:48:52] So you take goats with red eyes, books, thank you.

[00:48:56] You take goats with red eyes and you sacrifice them in the altar.

[00:49:00] And basically you have to do this 10 times to exercise the demon.

[00:49:05] And as you're doing this, the demon becomes more and more angry and will grab you,

[00:49:11] jump scare you because the jump scares in this are pretty audacious, pretty crazy.

[00:49:18] And throw your body somewhere in the house and somebody has to come and get you

[00:49:23] and kind of bring you, not bring you back to life, but heal you and get you back on your feet.

[00:49:28] Otherwise, if everybody goes down, then the game's over and the demon wins.

[00:49:32] This is a b-og party.

[00:49:33] It's bring your own goat.

[00:49:35] But while you're in the house, you have to find keys to unlock rooms that are in

[00:49:40] certain spots that may have a goat or something that will attract the goat.

[00:49:44] So you have to get hay in the god damn it, the psycho ward.

[00:49:50] You get trash to attract rats.

[00:49:52] Sorry.

[00:49:53] So when you say goat, I was thinking like goat statues or something.

[00:49:56] No, you mean literally you got to go through a house to find real goats?

[00:50:00] You find goats.

[00:50:00] Yes, they are all locked up in a pen.

[00:50:02] So the premise is that they're trying to call forth, oh, what's the demon?

[00:50:09] A zazal.

[00:50:10] The demon is a zazal.

[00:50:11] There's a group of people that worship the demon as a zazal, and each level is one of

[00:50:17] the characters that you can play as level, and they are currently in almost completely

[00:50:24] oppressed possession by a zazal.

[00:50:27] And they get triggered and you'll hear growling and snarling and shit.

[00:50:31] And then it chases you.

[00:50:33] So you have to run from it.

[00:50:34] You have to hit it with UV light to calm it down.

[00:50:38] And if you don't, it grabs you and it does this cut scene where it screams in your face

[00:50:44] and shakes everything around.

[00:50:46] And then it drags your body somewhere in the house or field or wherever.

[00:50:50] While you're doing this, demons come out of the ground, ghosts appear,

[00:50:54] and they chase you.

[00:50:54] And you can get taken out by them.

[00:50:56] There's a whole level with a half spider woman.

[00:50:58] So if you're terrified of spiders, it is awful for anybody who hates spiders.

[00:51:03] And then there's a really cool butcher meat locker level that they just recently added.

[00:51:10] And it takes a while for them to get each level out, but when they do,

[00:51:18] nothing is broken really in this game.

[00:51:20] It was pretty early access when we first started playing it,

[00:51:22] but it never felt totally broken.

[00:51:25] Like it didn't crash.

[00:51:26] We didn't get stuck in things.

[00:51:28] And it feels like they take a lot of time to give you something good.

[00:51:33] So each level has its own uniqueness to it, each character you have to chase.

[00:51:38] So the demons look different in each area.

[00:51:41] It's really, really well done.

[00:51:43] I absolutely love Devour.

[00:51:45] I actually started playing it in VR to get that just that little bit of extra jump scare.

[00:51:50] And it delivers.

[00:51:52] I love playing this in VR.

[00:51:53] It is horrifying in VR.

[00:51:55] That's a tiny goat.

[00:51:56] I just was waiting for the video to show off a goat.

[00:52:00] They're pocket goats.

[00:52:00] Those are pretty small.

[00:52:03] You grab them by their neck and then you throw them in the fire.

[00:52:07] And they spree.

[00:52:10] These steam reviews, dude.

[00:52:13] Yeah, the steam reviews are good.

[00:52:14] Devour is a great game.

[00:52:17] I love this game.

[00:52:18] This first one, this first one, he's like,

[00:52:25] how the first one says I love it when black men chase me, which like that's this next one,

[00:52:32] though.

[00:52:33] Holy shit.

[00:52:33] This this one got me real good.

[00:52:36] So first off, they got the they got the product for free.

[00:52:38] This is good game.

[00:52:39] I wish there was sex.

[00:52:44] What was the other one?

[00:52:46] I know it's got everything else.

[00:52:47] It's good for good jump scares.

[00:52:49] It's great with friends.

[00:52:50] Would highly, highly recommend if you guys are looking for something to co-op with

[00:52:56] and run around to play.

[00:52:57] And as far as I know, it's not super expensive either.

[00:52:59] It's pretty cheap to pick up still.

[00:53:02] It's worth it.

[00:53:02] It's worth every penny that they put into this game.

[00:53:05] That's awesome.

[00:53:06] They do like Halloween events.

[00:53:07] They do, you know, silly Easter egg events for Easter, but it's all horrifying.

[00:53:12] You know, they do some really cool shit.

[00:53:14] So there are like bunnies in that one.

[00:53:16] Please tell me you've catch rabbits instead of goats in the Easter.

[00:53:20] I don't know.

[00:53:20] You might.

[00:53:21] You might.

[00:53:21] There are some that those change or they'll put like bunny ears on the rats instead.

[00:53:26] You know, some silly shit like that.

[00:53:29] I played with your group before.

[00:53:31] We played Helldivers a couple of times and I played Fast Phasma, right?

[00:53:35] Which is another horror co-op game.

[00:53:37] But the difference with Phasma is I never know what the fuck I'm doing with any of the items.

[00:53:42] I just follow you guys and I try not to die.

[00:53:44] I know to hide in closets and stuff.

[00:53:45] That's all I do.

[00:53:46] But I never know what I'm doing with the items.

[00:53:48] This game.

[00:53:49] Why the hell if we've not played this?

[00:53:51] I would play this and I'd be okay at it.

[00:53:53] Like you're breaking out the UV light that scare away demons.

[00:53:56] This game looks hilarious.

[00:53:58] It's great.

[00:53:58] And it's so much better.

[00:53:59] There's not a lot of mechanics to it.

[00:54:02] You just grab the shit to attract it.

[00:54:05] You pick it up and you take it to the altar and you have to plan it.

[00:54:08] And it's so well designed that we have to sit at the altar and say,

[00:54:13] Okay, we're going to do four on this round.

[00:54:15] Each one of us grabs one and then we'll do two here.

[00:54:18] So that's two people drop off, but we have some freedom to chase

[00:54:21] some other stuff around.

[00:54:22] And then we do four and you have to plan it out or it just gets crazy.

[00:54:28] This game gets way harder than Phasmophobia does when you're up to

[00:54:31] like eight to nine sacrificial items in any level, then it's just chaos.

[00:54:37] There are just people are dropping.

[00:54:39] You're trying to rest them back up.

[00:54:42] You get perks too.

[00:54:43] Like the more you play it, you get points and stuff and you can

[00:54:45] put it yourself to get some cool perks that makes you run faster when

[00:54:49] you're being chased or you res people faster, but you can only have

[00:54:54] one perk on at a time.

[00:54:55] So as a group, one person can be the healer.

[00:54:58] The other person can be the runner.

[00:54:59] If you have a relic in your hand, you run faster.

[00:55:02] Some really cool stuff that you can.

[00:55:03] It's got robes.

[00:55:04] You can change.

[00:55:05] It's got flashlight skins.

[00:55:06] It's got all kinds of silly shit that you can like.

[00:55:10] Like I'm not kidding you.

[00:55:11] It's got all this really cool stuff.

[00:55:12] I adore Devour and I'm very happy to know that this is a hidden gem

[00:55:18] because more people need to know about this.

[00:55:20] A lot of people are playing Phasma.

[00:55:22] They love it.

[00:55:23] It's the same kind of concept, except it's got demons and

[00:55:26] it's way fucking scarier in my opinion, and it's a lot more simple.

[00:55:32] There's no picking up the shit before you go in.

[00:55:34] You just go in balls to the wall and you try to survive as

[00:55:37] long as you can with your group of friends and you get some

[00:55:39] good laughs because people scream when they I've not heard Sinistar

[00:55:44] scream very often in my life, but I'll tell you what playing Devour

[00:55:48] that man can roar when he gets grabbed by something.

[00:55:52] Yeah, I would totally love to play this because I like Phasma too.

[00:55:55] Don't get me wrong.

[00:55:56] Phasma is a fantastic game, but it definitely feels more complicated.

[00:55:59] This seems to be more easy to get into with friends.

[00:56:02] I like the graphics.

[00:56:02] I like the cloth physics on the drapes and stuff.

[00:56:06] This looks great.

[00:56:08] And the fact that it's being updated regularly, that there's events for seasonal events.

[00:56:12] Like when we looked at I can't read the numbers chart, but when we looked at steam charts,

[00:56:16] there's nothing people playing this on any given night,

[00:56:19] which is a shame because this looks like a great one for sure.

[00:56:22] Yeah, it's only five bucks.

[00:56:25] Holy shit.

[00:56:26] Yeah, it's at least 15 to 20 for how much time I've spent on this game.

[00:56:32] It is dirt cheap and absolutely worth picking up.

[00:56:35] And it's so simple and it's fun.

[00:56:38] It looks great with friends.

[00:56:40] I would recommend it for anybody.

[00:56:42] So anybody watching this game who doesn't already own it,

[00:56:44] which is 90% of the people that watch this podcast because they all play with me.

[00:56:50] Go grab it.

[00:56:51] Go grab it because it's a great.

[00:56:52] This is a great game.

[00:56:54] Jake will take you in.

[00:56:55] You should come with us next time.

[00:56:56] We'll plan a day.

[00:56:57] Five bucks? Why not?

[00:56:58] I would definitely buy this for five bucks.

[00:56:58] I'll get the VR out.

[00:56:59] We'll go hunt some demons.

[00:57:01] Reminds me of like Evolve if Evolve was good.

[00:57:06] RIP Evolve.

[00:57:08] Oh man, Evolve had such promise and they shit on it.

[00:57:11] It did rip to a real one.

[00:57:15] That's my runner up to Hidden Gems I guess.

[00:57:19] That's the thing with these games like the genre.

[00:57:21] There's like a ton of these horror co-op games we mentioned before.

[00:57:26] But I feel like a lot of them are always launching in early access

[00:57:29] and I feel like they don't get finished.

[00:57:31] What was the one that just finally hit 1.0 after seven years?

[00:57:35] Was it The Forest?

[00:57:37] No.

[00:57:39] There's one that's been out for seven years.

[00:57:41] I'm trying to think of which one it was, but you're right.

[00:57:43] Yeah.

[00:57:43] There's one where they're like, I released and we're like,

[00:57:46] bro, we've been playing this.

[00:57:46] It might be seven days to die actually.

[00:57:48] I don't know.

[00:57:49] It's been out longer than that.

[00:57:50] I don't know what it is.

[00:57:51] I'll have to remember what it is.

[00:57:53] I'm always leery of games that go in early access and never finish

[00:57:56] or just get abandoned because they don't take off.

[00:57:58] I'm really impressed with the commitment the developer has for this.

[00:58:01] I wonder if it's one person or if it's a team.

[00:58:03] But either way, I mean, five bucks and they're still updating it is awesome.

[00:58:06] I believe it's a team.

[00:58:08] It's a small team, but I think it's a team that's doing it.

[00:58:11] And that monster is fucking terrifying, dude.

[00:58:13] Like I was looking at a screenshot on Steam where it's got its arms like this.

[00:58:17] And it's yeah, you're looking at the site board.

[00:58:19] She's got the red crazy hair.

[00:58:21] Oh, dude, when you get grabbed, find a jump scare of that

[00:58:25] and you'll see what it's like to get.

[00:58:27] Honestly, I like people going in blind and not expecting what it's going to be like

[00:58:31] because it's a whole nother level like it is.

[00:58:34] It is about there's actually in the options.

[00:58:36] There's an accessibility to turn off jump scare and screen shake when you get grabbed

[00:58:41] because it can be that intense for some really.

[00:58:44] Okay, yeah, you can shut it off.

[00:58:47] Oh, the old wheelchair.

[00:58:48] Yes, wheelchair upstairs people.

[00:58:51] But no, this is the check out devour.

[00:58:54] Play with your friends.

[00:58:54] Play with me.

[00:58:55] It's a great game.

[00:58:57] That's awesome.

[00:58:59] All right.

[00:58:59] Good pick.

[00:59:00] Again, another great horror game that is I know you know it really well,

[00:59:03] but a lot of people I'm willing to bet do not.

[00:59:05] So that's awesome.

[00:59:06] Sweet.

[00:59:07] Aaron, your second pick.

[00:59:09] Yeah, Etrian Odyssey Nexus.

[00:59:12] I still don't know if you pronounce it Etrian or Etrian.

[00:59:14] I'm just going to go with Etrian.

[00:59:17] But it came out pretty goddamn late in the 3DS life.

[00:59:24] So probably not a lot of people know about this one,

[00:59:27] but it's basically just like an amalgamation of the

[00:59:31] there was like I think five games that came before like Etrian Odyssey 1 through 5.

[00:59:37] They basically did like a best of like mashed it all into one gigantic game,

[00:59:43] which was Nexus.

[00:59:44] And basically it's just like a dungeon crawler or like the top screen.

[00:59:48] It's just like a first person dungeon crawling kind of like the first fantasy star

[00:59:52] or fantasy star 2 and stuff.

[00:59:55] Then yeah, you're cruising along through a dungeon

[00:59:58] there's occasionally like levers and chests and stuff like that you'll have to interact with

[01:00:02] to like open up passages and further into the dungeon or to like get around like in the

[01:00:08] mazes there will be these big gigantic enemies that are far more powerful than you are called

[01:00:15] FOEs.

[01:00:16] I forget what exactly it's not foe.

[01:00:19] I forget what exactly it stands for,

[01:00:21] but you'll have to find a way to get around them and stuff

[01:00:26] all the while on the bottom screen of the 3DS, you'll be drawing your map with your stylus.

[01:00:31] So you just draw like the walls.

[01:00:32] Okay.

[01:00:33] You can pull like a little icon to like where a door would be or stairs.

[01:00:38] And I think there is an option to turn on like Auto Map so you can just

[01:00:44] go through the dungeon and it will automatically map everything for you.

[01:00:48] But yeah, if you're into that kind of thing, you can draw the map.

[01:00:53] And holy shit, there are you make all of your characters like you'll start by picking a class

[01:01:01] and each class has different like character portraits you can pick from like a lot of

[01:01:05] recolors of different ones.

[01:01:06] But there's so many fucking cool classes you can pick from.

[01:01:11] I should have had like a class list pulled up, but they're just it's so out of the box

[01:01:19] compared to like say they don't have like just your plane warrior or like mage

[01:01:26] or fucking thief or whatever instead they have.

[01:01:29] Oh, what is it?

[01:01:30] There's one I think oh, I forget what the hell it's called,

[01:01:34] but it revolves around like sending out these circles around like an enemy or an enemy team

[01:01:40] and that'll it'll either like it'll either disable like their arms or their head or their

[01:01:46] legs or they'll pull like a healing ring around your team or something like that.

[01:01:52] There's a tank who has there's like a like a tanky beefy class that has this like gigantic

[01:01:58] spear that can like heat up and do like a shit ton of damage.

[01:02:02] But if you're not careful, you're not paying attention,

[01:02:04] it can overheat and you'll just lose your turn basically.

[01:02:07] Okay.

[01:02:08] Yeah, it's one of those games where you'll have three characters in the front row two

[01:02:11] in the back row.

[01:02:13] Your front row is your like either your tanky beefy boys that can take hits,

[01:02:18] block hits or just dodge.

[01:02:20] Your back row is your squishy fellas like mages or like an archer or healer or something

[01:02:24] like that.

[01:02:26] Oh, shout out to the sovereign.

[01:02:28] The sovereign is like a really awesome like support healer class where it'll do

[01:02:34] it'll do a buff or like it will apply a buff to like a row of teammates but also

[01:02:38] heal them at the same time.

[01:02:40] They need to do other things to like augment their attacks with a certain element

[01:02:44] while also healing them, which is fucking sweet.

[01:02:48] But yeah, when you're making your characters, you'll you can take a look at their skill

[01:02:54] trees and shit, which are also massive.

[01:02:56] There's a lot of a lot of really cool ways to like fine tune your characters

[01:03:01] and really synchronize your party during combat and when you're in the dungeons

[01:03:07] as well too, because you can gather resources and shit.

[01:03:11] And when you beat a lot of spells now.

[01:03:15] Yeah.

[01:03:17] And it's got like a like a monster hunter kind of like flow to it too,

[01:03:21] because when you beat enemies, they'll drop materials and then you can leave the

[01:03:26] dungeon, go back to town, rest up, save your game, sell all your shit,

[01:03:31] unlock new weapons.

[01:03:32] So whatever you do, it's like a new dungeon, find new enemies.

[01:03:36] It's like, oh hell yeah, I'm going to get much better gear this time around.

[01:03:40] So you beat the shit out of them, go back to town, get better gear that lets you go

[01:03:44] further into the dungeon and then continue that same cycle as you go on.

[01:03:49] And eventually come across a boss and bosses have they'll have like

[01:03:55] hidden what is it like like hidden hidden spots or like hidden ways.

[01:04:03] If you hit them a certain way.

[01:04:04] Yeah, like a weak pointer hunter.

[01:04:07] It's like when you when you're targeting body points, right?

[01:04:11] Kind of like that.

[01:04:12] But like when you hit them with like a certain thing or in a certain part,

[01:04:15] they'll hidden drops, they'll they'll they have hidden drops or like when

[01:04:19] you do something specific to a boss, you'll get a like a hidden drop material

[01:04:24] that'll get you some super powerful badass like piece of gear.

[01:04:30] But yeah, man, it's there's a lot of dungeons.

[01:04:32] There's a lot of a lot of classes, a lot of ways to customize.

[01:04:36] But it's it's not randomized dungeons.

[01:04:40] Do you know?

[01:04:41] Or are they are they fixed layouts of the dungeon layers?

[01:04:45] That I don't know.

[01:04:46] I think they are fixed.

[01:04:48] I think they're OK, they're they're always the same.

[01:04:50] I'm pretty I'm pretty sure this is rad.

[01:04:53] This reminds me a lot of old school PC dungeon crawlers actually.

[01:04:57] Sinister might actually if I know Sinister may not be the greatest anime fan,

[01:05:01] but this gameplay looks great into the PC era of guys.

[01:05:05] It really does.

[01:05:05] Right.

[01:05:06] And I love how it's like I love how you like those old games.

[01:05:09] You build your characters, you name them, pick your portraits.

[01:05:12] You get to pick what class they are.

[01:05:13] Although this is way more in depth with skill selection and stuff, which I love.

[01:05:18] I love that stuff.

[01:05:19] And yeah, the first person crawling.

[01:05:22] Gosh, what was the game that came out?

[01:05:24] Not too long a couple of years ago.

[01:05:25] It was a throwback like this to that's going to be a PC one though.

[01:05:30] Grim Rock.

[01:05:30] Yes.

[01:05:31] This looks better than Grim Rock, though, by quite a bit more.

[01:05:35] Yeah, graphics look great.

[01:05:36] I like the idea of using the second screen as a map and for using a style to track like

[01:05:41] old school tracking and making maps because when I was a kid playing some old RPGs,

[01:05:45] I used to make maps on pen and paper as I went through.

[01:05:48] Yeah, and I get that maybe.

[01:05:51] Yeah.

[01:05:51] Also got to navigate the fucking woods in Zelda.

[01:05:55] Yeah.

[01:05:55] Who made this?

[01:05:57] Atlas.

[01:05:59] Atlas.

[01:05:59] The.

[01:06:00] Is this game?

[01:06:00] Okay.

[01:06:01] Yeah, they even had some DLC where you could get persona costumes for certain classes too.

[01:06:08] Like persona three, four and five.

[01:06:11] Of course you could.

[01:06:13] Oh, and they had like a kind of crossover with that.

[01:06:18] There's persona Q and persona Q2 where it's basically like it's Etria and Odyssey,

[01:06:22] but with persona characters and with the persona vibe because they have like

[01:06:27] the jazzy music all over the goddamn place.

[01:06:29] You instead of like building classes and building characters, you fuse their personas

[01:06:38] to basically make their class and shit like that.

[01:06:40] So it was those two.

[01:06:43] I didn't realize this is a genre.

[01:06:45] This is awesome actually.

[01:06:46] I really like this one.

[01:06:48] Like the Japanese history with RPGs, like tabletop RPGs has always been interesting to

[01:06:54] me because they based a lot of their tabletop stuff off of wizardry

[01:06:57] and a lot of the old school PC dungeon crawling games.

[01:07:02] I mean they have Dungeons and Dragons over there too, but for them their RPGs look like

[01:07:05] more like wizardry and stuff.

[01:07:07] And this reminds me a lot of like wizardry or something similar to that.

[01:07:11] Definitely with the Japanese Atlas spin on it for sure.

[01:07:14] I mean, oh yeah.

[01:07:15] Anime waifus abound, but it's cool that you get to pick your portraits.

[01:07:19] Yeah, this is a rad pick.

[01:07:20] Is this on Switch at all or is it just 3DS?

[01:07:24] Etria and Odyssey one, two and three just got.

[01:07:27] Put on the Switch not too long ago.

[01:07:29] Okay.

[01:07:30] And it actually this is the sixth one, right?

[01:07:33] Yeah, yeah.

[01:07:34] This one was on 3DS only.

[01:07:36] The ones on Switch.

[01:07:38] The ones on Switch played pretty well though.

[01:07:40] Like of course you don't use your stylus and then you just like you just hold

[01:07:43] right trigger and use the right stick to draw your map.

[01:07:46] But again, you can just auto map it and be just fine.

[01:07:50] There's still yeah great fucking soundtracks too, especially on three.

[01:07:56] Bangers.

[01:07:57] Yup.

[01:07:57] Bangers abound.

[01:07:59] These were games that I wanted to play the Etria and Odyssey franchise in general.

[01:08:04] I really wanted to play them, but I just.

[01:08:06] There was too many other games I was already playing so I never picked them up.

[01:08:10] They'll they'll know that whole lot of your time, dude.

[01:08:13] Like Nexus, I've spent like 250 hours on it just because I like to

[01:08:18] run through dungeons and try different types of parties and ship.

[01:08:22] They're great though, especially that.

[01:08:25] The three on Switch man that they're worth picking up.

[01:08:29] Is it a compilation or are they separate separate releases?

[01:08:33] You can buy them separate.

[01:08:35] I think Atlas is a strange company.

[01:08:37] I like a lot of Atlas's games, but they're the company that will do like.

[01:08:42] Do you want us to bring persona five to the switch?

[01:08:45] I don't know.

[01:08:45] Oh yeah, don't email me that.

[01:08:48] Yeah, and you're like son of a bitch.

[01:08:49] We've been asking for persona for how many years and you're like teasing people now.

[01:08:53] Yes, we want persona on the switch like they they

[01:08:56] they have a weird relationship with fans when it comes to their games.

[01:08:59] And I feel like they don't always market the games as well as they should.

[01:09:02] I mean, clearly everybody knows persona, but there's a lot of Atlas games that are fantastic

[01:09:06] and don't really get that that look by people this this game.

[01:09:10] I had heard I had heard the name Adrian Odyssey and I think in Nintendo Direct.

[01:09:14] But I just thought it was I just no offense to fans of the show the series,

[01:09:18] but I thought it was like a visual novel.

[01:09:20] I didn't realize it was this.

[01:09:21] I didn't realize it was like a dungeon crawling old school dungeon crawler,

[01:09:24] selectable classes like this is a lot more in depth than I was expecting.

[01:09:28] This looks rad.

[01:09:29] Yeah, dude.

[01:09:30] And and three has like a little subsection

[01:09:34] where you can you can like sail a ship to different islands and gather materials and stuff.

[01:09:39] It's pretty sweet.

[01:09:39] It's the whole collection on switch for the three games.

[01:09:43] You can buy all three for 80 bucks or oh, you can buy you buy each game separately

[01:09:49] for 40 bucks.

[01:09:50] What?

[01:09:53] Yeah, that's Atlas.

[01:09:54] Yeah, that sounds right.

[01:09:55] That's nuts.

[01:09:57] What the hell?

[01:09:58] Yeah, that's what they do.

[01:09:58] One of those that opens up after 200 hours kind of positioning games.

[01:10:04] Not really like you'll you start off like your characters like I guess the more the more

[01:10:14] abilities and skills and shit that you one that you unlock the more variety you'll have

[01:10:19] to start off kind of slow because you'll be like, dude, this fucking combat is tough.

[01:10:23] But then once you start once your party starts getting more and more in sync,

[01:10:26] it's like this fucking this last boss ain't shit.

[01:10:31] We will push over.

[01:10:32] Nice.

[01:10:33] It's awesome.

[01:10:34] I have to check this one out.

[01:10:36] I love that school that area era of gaming, but it's hard for me to go back to old

[01:10:40] school PC games like that.

[01:10:42] If this is on the switch or if I can probably get a 3DS simulator on the Steam

[01:10:46] deck probably I might check this out.

[01:10:48] Not that I have 200 hours of spare.

[01:10:50] I have so much free for six.

[01:10:52] I got to play now, but I still want to check it out.

[01:10:55] He's calling himself out now.

[01:10:56] Wonderful.

[01:10:57] We've done our jobs in a star.

[01:10:59] We've done it.

[01:11:02] Grand Theft Auto V is pretty good.

[01:11:04] That's all I'm going to say.

[01:11:06] I got to do another round of that and I did check out Starfield for a brief

[01:11:09] minute just to see if it looked better on my video card, but spoilers doesn't.

[01:11:14] But if I can squeeze in another couple hundred hours of gameplay this year,

[01:11:17] I'm going to check this one out.

[01:11:18] Jake will play anything if it's not Street Fighter 6.

[01:11:21] I think you played Marvel Snap last week.

[01:11:23] Yeah, yeah, I was playing Marvel Snap again.

[01:11:25] They literally had anything other than what he's supposed to fucking play.

[01:11:29] Fight them streets.

[01:11:31] Fight the streets, man.

[01:11:33] Take them out.

[01:11:33] Look, you don't tell me what to do.

[01:11:35] Okay.

[01:11:37] I might be spinning the wheel of pain this year.

[01:11:39] It's fine.

[01:11:39] It's fine.

[01:11:40] You mean the wheel of Jake?

[01:11:42] Yeah, the wheel.

[01:11:44] Well, okay.

[01:11:45] Canada spins.

[01:11:46] Wolf hasn't beaten his game yet and GP, I don't think has even started.

[01:11:48] He's going to beat his game.

[01:11:51] I have no doubt in my mind.

[01:11:53] I have no doubt in my mind that Wolf will beat his game when he starts playing it.

[01:11:58] It probably already beat it.

[01:11:59] He just has a tie to tell us.

[01:12:01] True.

[01:12:02] He's probably beating his next versus being games.

[01:12:04] But realizing it, I know what he's like.

[01:12:06] Look, I'm confident my ability to beat Street Fighter 6 this year

[01:12:09] and diamond rank it.

[01:12:10] I'm sure I'll be fine.

[01:12:11] I'll not be spinning wheel of pain.

[01:12:12] It's fine.

[01:12:13] I have a couple hundred hours to spare on other games.

[01:12:16] There's lots of great stuff.

[01:12:17] You know what I want?

[01:12:18] Speaking of good games.

[01:12:19] Hold on.

[01:12:20] I want to press B to cancel shirt that's Jake.

[01:12:24] It's Jake's face and it just says, it's going to be fine.

[01:12:28] That's going to be my new shirt.

[01:12:31] I'm going to wear the shit out of that.

[01:12:33] There's a picture of Luke and Ryu on underneath it.

[01:12:36] It's going to be fine.

[01:12:37] It's good.

[01:12:37] It's fine.

[01:12:38] Don't worry about it.

[01:12:38] It's fine.

[01:12:40] The earth is exploding in the background.

[01:12:43] It's better.

[01:12:43] Very cool.

[01:12:46] Fine.

[01:12:46] Anyway.

[01:12:47] My pick is a little hidden gem called Ghouls and Ghosts.

[01:12:51] Now, I know you're saying.

[01:12:54] You're saying.

[01:12:54] Yeah, I know.

[01:12:55] You're saying Ghouls and Ghosts.

[01:12:56] That's not a fucking hidden gem.

[01:12:57] I've played that.

[01:12:58] Oh, we were being serious.

[01:12:59] Yes.

[01:13:00] Probably you've played that.

[01:13:02] But have you played the second Master System version?

[01:13:04] Because it's quite a bit different.

[01:13:06] At least I hope it is.

[01:13:08] Because I never got very far in this SNES and Genesis versions of this game.

[01:13:11] But when I play the Master System version, there's a few differences.

[01:13:15] First off, I have a lot of, you know, nostalgic glasses for the Master System.

[01:13:20] But I recognize it's not the greatest looking system.

[01:13:23] And that, you know, compared to the NES especially,

[01:13:25] the graphics aren't always necessarily there.

[01:13:27] The music is always maybe subpar.

[01:13:29] But this on the Master System?

[01:13:34] It's hard to say.

[01:13:35] The SMS.

[01:13:36] It looks great.

[01:13:37] I think the graphics in this game are fantastic.

[01:13:39] It plays really well.

[01:13:40] It's very smooth.

[01:13:42] It's clearly a port of the arcade game.

[01:13:44] It looks great, sounds great.

[01:13:46] It's surprisingly better looking than I expected.

[01:13:49] But what makes it different than the Super Nintendo version

[01:13:51] or Ghouls and Ghosts and Genesis is occasionally when you get a treasure chest,

[01:13:57] it opens a door portal and it's a store.

[01:14:00] And there's a storefront.

[01:14:01] And you can pick, you have to basically pick your upgrades.

[01:14:03] You can upgrade your armor, your shield, your helmet, your boots,

[01:14:07] or you can pick your weapon.

[01:14:09] That is totally unique to the franchise as far as I know.

[01:14:12] And the benefits are, I think it's the helmet upgrades your magic.

[01:14:15] There's selectable magic spells in this game that you can use at any time,

[01:14:18] provided you bring the armor.

[01:14:20] If you upgrade your boots, it affects your jump height and your speed.

[01:14:23] Armor lets you get more hits.

[01:14:24] And that's always been the thing with this franchise for me.

[01:14:27] I'm terrible at these games.

[01:14:29] And when you get hit once and you lose your armor,

[01:14:31] you get hit twice, you die.

[01:14:33] It pisses me off.

[01:14:34] And I've never finished one of these games before.

[01:14:36] Despite the infinite continues, they're brutally difficult.

[01:14:39] In this one though, as you unlock the tiers of armor,

[01:14:43] you get gold, obviously everybody's familiar with,

[01:14:45] but then there's red and green and I think there's a fourth one.

[01:14:48] But each arm that you unlock gives you another hit,

[01:14:51] basically another heart of life.

[01:14:53] Makes it infinitely easier to play this game.

[01:14:56] Still hard, but it's a little bit easier.

[01:14:59] And I just dig it, right?

[01:15:00] And like you have a spell meter for the gameplay.

[01:15:02] Let me bump ahead so you can actually see it

[01:15:04] because this guy is running his underwear.

[01:15:05] I will say this guy's not attacking anything.

[01:15:09] There, he finally attacked something.

[01:15:10] It literally looks like he's trying to do a no hit run.

[01:15:14] This looks insanely-

[01:15:15] But the level layouts are a bit different.

[01:15:18] Sorry, there's a bit difference to the arcade ports.

[01:15:21] There's obviously similarities with some of the stages,

[01:15:23] but there are some eating stages as well.

[01:15:25] What were you saying?

[01:15:26] I was gonna say it looks insanely good for the Master System

[01:15:29] like around that time.

[01:15:30] It looks, yeah, holy shit.

[01:15:32] I mean, I don't know what video you guys are looking at.

[01:15:34] I'm just looking at screenshots on Google.

[01:15:41] I would argue, and I'm gonna argue in your favor, Jake,

[01:15:45] that this may not necessarily be a hidden gem per se,

[01:15:51] but the style and the uniqueness of this particular version

[01:15:58] may be considered a hidden gem compared to the other versions of this game.

[01:16:04] I think that's what you're trying to go for.

[01:16:06] Not necessarily the game in itself,

[01:16:08] it's more or less the perks that you get within the game

[01:16:11] because this is a very, very low-res resolution

[01:16:17] or low-res version of the Sega Genesis version,

[01:16:21] which is also a lower-res version of the arcade version of Goules and Goblins.

[01:16:27] Or Goules and Ghosts.

[01:16:28] It's Goules and Goblins.

[01:16:28] Right, but when I play the Genesis version,

[01:16:32] the Genesis version does have the vertical attack like this one does,

[01:16:37] but I think it's more like the arcade where you unlock the one set of armor

[01:16:42] and that's it or there might be two sets of armor,

[01:16:44] but you kind of get the items in the world as you're playing

[01:16:47] and I think the stages are closer to the arcade.

[01:16:49] There's difference in stages in this one, slightly variations.

[01:16:51] Part of that is because it's the Master System

[01:16:53] and it can't replicate everything.

[01:16:56] It does a damn well good try, right?

[01:16:58] You can see in the video right now there's water slopes

[01:17:01] and you can see where the sprites are not meant to be diagonal

[01:17:06] and there's black squares.

[01:17:08] It is what it is for the system.

[01:17:10] It still looks pretty decent.

[01:17:11] I mean, yeah, it's low-res and it's understandable,

[01:17:13] but I think the point isn't the game itself,

[01:17:20] it's what the game provides outside of what we're normally used to

[01:17:26] for Ghouls and Goblins or Ghouls and Ghosts

[01:17:30] or Super Ghouls and Ghosts or whatever version.

[01:17:32] Super Girls and Ghosts?

[01:17:35] Super Girls and Ghosts, yeah.

[01:17:36] And that's an Atlas game.

[01:17:41] Also, I need you guys to let me know.

[01:17:43] So what this franchise has always been famous for

[01:17:45] is you just can't beat it just once.

[01:17:47] It's always a two-loop situation.

[01:17:48] If you want end credits, you have to two-loop it.

[01:17:51] In this one, the way they handle it,

[01:17:52] I was watching the playthrough because it's hilarious to me.

[01:17:55] You beat the boss and you get to the final door

[01:17:57] and then you get to pop up with an old man

[01:17:59] and your lady that you're trying to rescue

[01:18:01] and the old man's like,

[01:18:02] you can't beat Loki until you get the magic powder.

[01:18:06] Go back to the first town and get the magic powder.

[01:18:09] And then the lady comes out saying,

[01:18:11] unlock the greatest weapon and spells

[01:18:13] and then you'll meet the battle goddess

[01:18:15] who will give you the ultimate weapon.

[01:18:17] So then it loops you back to the first stage

[01:18:19] and that's the way it handles it.

[01:18:20] You don't get credits or the end.

[01:18:22] It literally tells you,

[01:18:23] okay, you're going back to the first town now, sorry,

[01:18:25] and come back.

[01:18:26] And that's how they handle the second loop.

[01:18:28] I don't know if the SNES one does that

[01:18:29] or the Genesis one does.

[01:18:30] Do you guys recall?

[01:18:31] The SNES does do a second loop,

[01:18:32] but you fight what you think is the final boss

[01:18:37] and it goes, you can't get to the final area

[01:18:40] without the magic bracelet

[01:18:41] that was dropped along the way by the princess.

[01:18:44] Go back and find it.

[01:18:45] Yeah.

[01:18:45] Oh.

[01:18:46] And then you start back over at the beginning

[01:18:48] and have to do the whole thing.

[01:18:50] Now, you can play the game without the magic bracelet,

[01:18:52] but you have to fight the final boss

[01:18:55] with that bracelet for to unlock the actual final boss,

[01:18:59] in which case then you go and fight him beyond the wall.

[01:19:04] It's a shit weapon.

[01:19:05] It is awful.

[01:19:06] It's a stupid, stupid weapon.

[01:19:08] It does not make anything easier.

[01:19:10] It actually makes it fucking harder,

[01:19:12] which I'm sure is their goddamn intentions,

[01:19:14] but it can be done because I've done it.

[01:19:16] So I'm going to skip ahead in the play through

[01:19:17] to the final weapon here.

[01:19:18] They call it like the cosmic blaster

[01:19:22] or some nonsense or something.

[01:19:24] It's and you do get it.

[01:19:25] You get it as you basically have to go to every shop,

[01:19:28] get every armor piece, every spell, every weapon,

[01:19:30] and then the next chest you unlock,

[01:19:32] you get a small sprite of a battle goddess

[01:19:35] and a text message saying,

[01:19:37] here's the ultimate power.

[01:19:38] Good luck.

[01:19:39] And then from that point on, you have it.

[01:19:40] And so in the game, in the gameplay,

[01:19:43] it looks like a cross, but I don't know.

[01:19:45] It looks pretty powerful for what it is.

[01:19:46] It doesn't seem shitty like the bracelet was

[01:19:48] in the SNES game.

[01:19:49] It definitely doesn't look as bad,

[01:19:51] but you can also shoot up with this weapon.

[01:19:54] The other one you can't shoot up.

[01:19:56] I don't think you can shoot down.

[01:19:57] Yeah, in the SNES game,

[01:19:57] you can't do vertical or downward attacks, right?

[01:19:59] It's different than the Genesis one.

[01:20:01] No, do you get a double jump in this version?

[01:20:04] I don't know if you remember

[01:20:05] because I felt like the double jump

[01:20:07] was kind of special to-

[01:20:09] There's a spell, I think, that gives you double jump.

[01:20:11] So the difference with this one from the Genesis one,

[01:20:13] as far as I recall is there's actually a spell menu.

[01:20:16] You can pull up the spell menu

[01:20:17] and there's multiple spells you can pick from,

[01:20:19] provided you have the right armor.

[01:20:20] I think at the very starting armor,

[01:20:22] you get thunder and fireball.

[01:20:25] Oops, I accidentally spoiled the game.

[01:20:26] Sorry, guys.

[01:20:27] That's fine.

[01:20:28] As we see the end credits.

[01:20:29] But as you get other colored armors,

[01:20:31] you get more spells.

[01:20:31] And I think one of them is a double jump

[01:20:33] or a higher jump spell.

[01:20:34] That's cool.

[01:20:35] And that's what I think was interesting

[01:20:36] is like as long as you have the armor equipped,

[01:20:38] you can cast your magic

[01:20:39] and you can pick which spell you want.

[01:20:41] So I know this next one has spells,

[01:20:43] like you kind of charge them up to use them,

[01:20:45] but I think they're more explicitly tied

[01:20:47] to a weapon or something.

[01:20:49] Yep, it's specifically tied to whatever weapon

[01:20:51] you have with the gold armor.

[01:20:52] Yeah, so if like, I think it is

[01:20:54] if you have the dagger and you charge up,

[01:20:56] you get the dragon.

[01:20:58] Yes.

[01:20:59] And yeah, it's stuff like that.

[01:21:00] So each one has its own unique spell

[01:21:05] associated with it that you have to have

[01:21:07] associated with it that you have to have

[01:21:09] the blue armor for, I think.

[01:21:13] Or was it just the gold armor?

[01:21:18] It might be just the gold armor

[01:21:20] that you have to do that with.

[01:21:21] Okay.

[01:21:24] Yeah, you get that actually.

[01:21:25] I mean, you get the gold armor.

[01:21:27] Is Ghouls and Ghosts a hidden gem?

[01:21:30] No, but I'm willing to bet

[01:21:31] when you think of Ghouls and Ghosts

[01:21:34] or you've played it,

[01:21:34] you've probably played the arcade version

[01:21:36] or very likely you played this next one.

[01:21:38] That seems to be the most popular or the Genesis one.

[01:21:40] I don't know anybody who's actually sat

[01:21:42] and played through the Master System version.

[01:21:44] I think that's a shame.

[01:21:45] I think it's a really great game.

[01:21:46] If I was a kid with the Master System

[01:21:48] and this is what I got for my birthday,

[01:21:50] I would have been fine with this pick.

[01:21:52] I would have been okay getting this for a holiday.

[01:21:55] Like, it's not NES Superman, right?

[01:21:57] Like, Chemco Classic.

[01:21:58] It's not a shitty game like that.

[01:22:01] It's an all-around solid game.

[01:22:03] And like I said, I love the system a lot.

[01:22:06] I keep saying, you know, Double Dragon

[01:22:07] is one of my favorite versions of that game.

[01:22:09] The Zillion's on there.

[01:22:10] There's a lot of great games on the Master System.

[01:22:12] There's also a lot of shitty stuff on there too.

[01:22:14] Oh, yeah.

[01:22:15] Sometimes it's hard to determine

[01:22:16] which is good and which is bad.

[01:22:18] But this is one where I think right from the get-go

[01:22:20] it's a solid port of that game

[01:22:21] and a unique port of that game.

[01:22:24] GP is going to give you so much shit.

[01:22:28] This actually looks kind of interesting.

[01:22:30] Yeah, like, this kind of falls in line

[01:22:33] with the idea that Master System

[01:22:35] tried to do things differently

[01:22:37] because it couldn't meet the demands

[01:22:38] of what the game was supposed to be originally.

[01:22:41] So they changed it up, gave it a few new features

[01:22:44] and made it playable in its own way.

[01:22:47] Meal looks easier.

[01:22:50] Sorry. Sorry, Wolf. Go ahead.

[01:22:52] Sorry.

[01:22:52] It does seem easier.

[01:22:54] It might be.

[01:22:55] But it also might not be just because of

[01:22:58] the technical limitations of the console itself.

[01:23:01] It might be just harder

[01:23:02] because it has to be slower

[01:23:04] and more precise with what you're doing

[01:23:06] because Ghouls and Ghosts, Ghosts and Goblins,

[01:23:09] these are very precise platformers.

[01:23:12] Super Ghouls and Ghosts gave you

[01:23:13] a little leeway with the double jump.

[01:23:14] But before the double jump came along,

[01:23:17] I was like, whatever you did,

[01:23:19] you have fun with that.

[01:23:25] The double jump that you need to fucking commit to?

[01:23:28] Commit to your job.

[01:23:29] Because if you don't commit,

[01:23:30] you've made a terrible error.

[01:23:32] I want to like the series so bad.

[01:23:37] Fuck.

[01:23:38] It doesn't look as painful as Ghouls

[01:23:40] and Ghosts and Goblins for the NES.

[01:23:42] That one was...

[01:23:43] Yeah, that game is...

[01:23:45] And yeah, the second loop is pretty standard

[01:23:47] for the franchise because it was also in the first one.

[01:23:51] I think for me what's hard with the NES one,

[01:23:54] which is a different game,

[01:23:55] is that's Ghosts and Goblins, right?

[01:23:57] Obviously very similar in theme.

[01:23:58] But the thing with that one is

[01:23:59] you have infinite continues,

[01:24:01] but you hit a point where it's skill

[01:24:03] and you just can't proceed because you suck

[01:24:05] and you're forced to tell yourself,

[01:24:07] I can't do it.

[01:24:08] I have to stop.

[01:24:09] But you could keep going forever.

[01:24:11] It doesn't matter because you're not good at it.

[01:24:15] I beat it on stream years ago.

[01:24:18] Did you two loop it?

[01:24:19] I guess you would have, right?

[01:24:20] I did.

[01:24:21] It was after I did Super Ghouls and Ghosts,

[01:24:23] like not right after, but a while after.

[01:24:26] Because I did the two loop of Super Ghouls and Ghosts

[01:24:28] and then I went back and did Ghosts and Goblins sometime later.

[01:24:31] And after that, I was like, all right,

[01:24:32] let's check out regular Ghouls and Ghosts for the Genesis.

[01:24:35] And I couldn't do it because it looks like Super Ghouls and Ghosts.

[01:24:38] So my brain is like, I should have a double jump.

[01:24:40] But the game is like, no, you don't.

[01:24:42] You got to separate.

[01:24:43] It was a problem.

[01:24:44] Couple months, couple years before you play that

[01:24:46] because you're committed to what one version has

[01:24:49] and the other one doesn't.

[01:24:50] Why do I have a sword?

[01:24:52] Why the fuck do I want a sword?

[01:24:53] Give me something to throw.

[01:24:58] Just put a boomerang in there.

[01:24:59] That'd be cool.

[01:25:02] What's that one?

[01:25:03] Fucking stupid PS2 game.

[01:25:05] Tie the Tasmanian Tiger X Super Ghouls and Ghosts.

[01:25:09] The crossover we didn't know we needed.

[01:25:11] Yeah, right.

[01:25:12] Is that a thing?

[01:25:13] Really?

[01:25:13] Okay.

[01:25:14] No, no, I'm just being stupid.

[01:25:18] It's late for me.

[01:25:22] Well, I think great guys.

[01:25:24] I think everybody picked a really true hidden gem.

[01:25:26] I think nobody picked one that's a Final Fantasy Tactics.

[01:25:29] I'm sorry, GP.

[01:25:31] Not to shit on you for your pick that one time,

[01:25:34] but I think we all picked some good gems.

[01:25:36] That's kind of weird.

[01:25:37] Well, yeah, but we picked a different port of it,

[01:25:39] obscure port.

[01:25:40] I think that counts.

[01:25:41] Maybe next time I'll pick something more obscure

[01:25:43] like Tetris.

[01:25:43] There's probably a port of Tetris you've never heard of.

[01:25:45] I'm sure the committee needs to convene

[01:25:48] so we can either rule that a Tactics or not.

[01:25:54] And get voted off the island.

[01:25:55] That's great.

[01:25:56] Press B, island.

[01:25:58] Yeah.

[01:26:00] Press B, island.

[01:26:02] Press B to get kicked off the island.

[01:26:05] Oh boy.

[01:26:06] All right, I think that's an episode guys.

[01:26:08] Aaron, one more time.

[01:26:09] Thanks for joining us again this week.

[01:26:11] It's been great.

[01:26:11] I know a bunch of us did your show a few months back,

[01:26:15] which is a good time.

[01:26:16] Tell me where they can find your show again

[01:26:18] and just explain what it is you do.

[01:26:21] Hell yeah, Super Pod Saga.

[01:26:23] You can find everything and anything and everything

[01:26:26] superpod at superpodsaga.com.

[01:26:29] Every episode, our blog,

[01:26:31] because we write some pretty dumb stuff.

[01:26:33] I even wrote a blog article about Sushi Striker

[01:26:36] if anybody wants to read about it.

[01:26:39] Yeah, just every episode is a different topic,

[01:26:41] different guests.

[01:26:43] We just chit chat and have fun, hang out.

[01:26:46] These fellas, including I believe Cinestar,

[01:26:49] we all did, it was the fifth generation consoles,

[01:26:53] I believe?

[01:26:53] Yeah.

[01:26:54] PS1.

[01:26:55] Yeah, fifth gen.

[01:26:56] Yeah, and that was awesome.

[01:26:59] A lot of talking like this.

[01:27:03] I forget how exactly it went.

[01:27:05] A lot of Boston-donians.

[01:27:08] Yeah, Virginia Slims I think was referenced a few times.

[01:27:11] Yeah, Slims were.

[01:27:13] Yeah, more than a few.

[01:27:16] But yeah, it was a great time.

[01:27:18] Yeah, superpodsaga.com.

[01:27:20] Load it up on your favorite browser of choice.

[01:27:22] I don't know why the fuck that matters,

[01:27:26] but yeah, it's right there.

[01:27:27] Yeah, I think you guys also are on YouTube as well.

[01:27:29] I have links in the description of this episode

[01:27:31] of your YouTube and your main URLs.

[01:27:33] So absolutely make sure you guys check them out.

[01:27:35] I think I've seen a few people over there

[01:27:36] on your Discord.

[01:27:37] I know Jeff's a listener which is great.

[01:27:41] Yeah, besides, okay for yourself,

[01:27:44] what was the other thing I was going to mention?

[01:27:45] Chard, you and me, Sunday.

[01:27:48] Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

[01:27:49] Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

[01:27:50] Twitch.tv slash smite, S-M-I-G-H-T.

[01:27:54] You and I are gonna be doing our second round of Arcade Pit.

[01:27:58] I have a good feeling about this round.

[01:27:59] I think we won the first time we were on there.

[01:28:01] For those who don't know, Arcade Pit is a retro game show

[01:28:05] with challenges for including music and art and gameplay.

[01:28:09] It's a lot of fun.

[01:28:10] So if you're around on Sunday at,

[01:28:12] was it 5 PST or 8 Eastern?

[01:28:14] Please check us out there.

[01:28:15] We wouldn't mind having some people cheer us on.

[01:28:18] Hell yeah.

[01:28:19] Sounds awesome.

[01:28:21] Yeah.

[01:28:22] Chard, you wanna shout anything else out?

[01:28:24] You're streaming, right?

[01:28:25] Yeah, back to streaming.

[01:28:27] I have to see if I can beat Jake out

[01:28:32] before he even gets through his Sisyphean game.

[01:28:34] I've extended my stretch goal.

[01:28:37] We've shelved Horizon Forbidden West

[01:28:41] just for a little bit

[01:28:42] and I have found something I find

[01:28:44] that'll be much more challenging

[01:28:46] and we are doing a rerun of DS3

[01:28:48] and I have sworn that this year

[01:28:51] I will actually beat it on stream

[01:28:53] instead of recording the finishes

[01:28:55] and posting them on YouTube.

[01:28:56] Also, we have never played the Ring City

[01:28:58] or the painted world of Andriel

[01:29:02] so we're going to do the two DLCs as well.

[01:29:04] We're going to completely wipe

[01:29:06] every single boss off the map on DS3

[01:29:09] before Jake gets diamond rank on Street Fighter 6.

[01:29:12] Listen.

[01:29:13] So come and hang out,

[01:29:15] come and play games,

[01:29:16] come and watch me rage,

[01:29:17] but I'm actually doing quite well.

[01:29:19] I'm going through it pretty quickly so far.

[01:29:22] And yeah, Dark Souls 3.

[01:29:24] We're making it.

[01:29:24] Also, we've added a little helper,

[01:29:29] the Dark Souls compendium here

[01:29:32] and we have a segment that I call

[01:29:35] Soliderpiece Theater

[01:29:36] where we will talk about the lore,

[01:29:39] that's all in this book,

[01:29:41] that Jake loves so much

[01:29:42] and talk about characters, places, locations, weapons.

[01:29:46] And if you have any questions about it,

[01:29:48] we pull it up in the book

[01:29:48] and we talk about it during our Soliderpiece Theater.

[01:29:50] So come and check it out.

[01:29:51] Nice!

[01:29:52] Only Dark Souls needs an additional book

[01:29:55] to explain the fucking lore

[01:29:57] because it's not in game.

[01:29:58] It's only on item descriptions

[01:29:59] which is wild to me.

[01:30:01] Also, what the hell's with this stretch goal thing?

[01:30:04] Of you and Sinistar,

[01:30:05] who coined this fucking stretch goal thing?

[01:30:07] That wasn't part of the Sisyphean tradition.

[01:30:09] I think it was Sinistar.

[01:30:10] Sinistar did.

[01:30:10] Stretch goals.

[01:30:12] Overkeeping my ass.

[01:30:13] Well, we wanted to...

[01:30:14] We...

[01:30:15] The idea...

[01:30:16] I'll speak for him.

[01:30:17] He'll probably tell me I'm wrong, but it's fine.

[01:30:19] The idea was we did open world games, right?

[01:30:22] So he did Witcher.

[01:30:24] I did Horizon Zero Dawn

[01:30:27] and he and I both have an issue

[01:30:29] of playing open world games

[01:30:31] and getting overwhelmed with everything that's going on

[01:30:33] and not being able to finish anything.

[01:30:34] We bounce off of it.

[01:30:35] So we were going to force ourselves

[01:30:37] to play through open world games

[01:30:39] we've wanted to play

[01:30:41] after he was done with Witcher

[01:30:42] and I was done with Horizon.

[01:30:43] Obviously, mine was way shorter than his

[01:30:45] because he played the whole thing

[01:30:47] in 120 hours of Witcher 3.

[01:30:50] And I started playing for Midwest

[01:30:52] because it's a sequel and it's good.

[01:30:54] But I wanted something a little bit more difficult

[01:30:58] and to be honest with you mildly more entertaining,

[01:31:01] which I always find that playing Dark Souls

[01:31:03] is a little more entertaining

[01:31:04] than playing for Ben West, which is whatever.

[01:31:06] The game is great, but I love Dark Souls.

[01:31:09] And there are things that...

[01:31:09] It's great, it's boring.

[01:31:10] That's okay.

[01:31:11] It's fine.

[01:31:12] I wanted to do stuff to it that I've never done yet.

[01:31:15] And I said, you know what?

[01:31:16] I've never done this on stream.

[01:31:18] I always bounce off of it

[01:31:20] and then I go and play it by myself

[01:31:23] because I'm sick of fucking showing the rage to the people.

[01:31:27] But you know what?

[01:31:28] That rage is going to come out

[01:31:29] and you guys are going to see it

[01:31:30] and you're going to witness every bit of it.

[01:31:31] And if you don't like it, then go watch something else.

[01:31:33] I don't want to tell you.

[01:31:34] We're going to fucking do it.

[01:31:35] I'm excited to do it.

[01:31:36] So that's where it came from.

[01:31:38] And now the Sisyphean thing has a part two for me this year

[01:31:42] because it's a game I've bounced off of

[01:31:45] and have not finished live.

[01:31:48] And I want to finish it live.

[01:31:49] I want people to be there

[01:31:51] when we complete this fucking bullshit

[01:31:53] so we can celebrate together and have a drink.

[01:31:56] And I am very chart headed.

[01:31:57] Yes, that is a coin turn.

[01:31:59] All right guys.

[01:32:00] I saw Sinister by StuFeder6.

[01:32:01] I thought he was joking, but he legitimately bought it.

[01:32:04] And if he actually freaking beats it,

[01:32:06] my goal before I do, I'm going to freaking lose it.

[01:32:09] Wolf, how about you?

[01:32:09] Is there anything?

[01:32:10] He almost bought it for me.

[01:32:11] No, you stick to Horizon Forbidden North.

[01:32:14] Whatever it is, it's fine.

[01:32:15] I need a joystick.

[01:32:16] I need an arcade stick.

[01:32:19] I told you before, if you want help with the fight stick,

[01:32:21] I can help hook you up because there's a lot there.

[01:32:23] Just send me one and then I'll buy a Street Fighter 6

[01:32:25] and I'll diamond it before you.

[01:32:26] Yeah.

[01:32:29] Wolf, how about you?

[01:32:29] Is there anything you want to shout out

[01:32:31] or something you're playing or something you're doing?

[01:32:33] Honestly, I've been playing a lot of RimWorld on the Steam Deck.

[01:32:37] Nice.

[01:32:38] It's surprisingly playable on the Steam Deck.

[01:32:43] I have a problem.

[01:32:44] I need to put it down and get back to the games

[01:32:46] I've been meaning to play instead of being hooked

[01:32:49] on my stupid little colony that I probably could have beaten

[01:32:52] weeks ago, but I was like, no,

[01:32:54] I want to do this way of beating it.

[01:32:59] Yeah, we're going to play some RimWorld here

[01:33:00] after the podcast tonight too.

[01:33:02] So I'm with you, Wolf.

[01:33:04] I'm with you.

[01:33:04] Eventually, I will get onto playing Turbo Kid

[01:33:07] and Okami and I've got other games I wanted to play.

[01:33:11] I wanted to have these games done so I could play

[01:33:13] this Gestalt Steampunk Metroidvania game

[01:33:17] that's about to come out.

[01:33:18] Okay.

[01:33:20] I'm not going to be able to because I have

[01:33:22] so many other games that I wanted to play before that.

[01:33:26] Yeah, there's at least three or four great indie games

[01:33:28] that came out in the last week and a half.

[01:33:30] I picked up Animal Well and I shouldn't have

[01:33:32] because the game was really good,

[01:33:34] but it took a lot of time.

[01:33:36] So yeah, it's been a great year for 80 titles for sure.

[01:33:39] Boys, I've got Erdry next month so here we go.

[01:33:45] I beat Final Fantasy VII Remake, Chard.

[01:33:47] I think I did pretty good this year.

[01:33:49] Just saying.

[01:33:51] We did it for an episode, not for Sisyphean.

[01:33:53] We both beat it this year.

[01:33:55] Thank you.

[01:33:56] It's a lot of homework for one episode.

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