Press B 203: Final Fantasy 7 Remake

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[00:00:03] I was like, All right, all right. This is this is touching me in a place that is appropriate now at this age.

[00:00:09] And hello, YouTube.

[00:00:13] You know, what are you talking about the predator thing? Tell about the minus and the predators.

[00:00:21] No, don't say. Wow. Wow.

[00:00:23] The new hockey team in Utah, man. Hold on. I'm getting an update on my phone from YouTube.

[00:00:27] Yeah. Charges talking about the new hockey team potentially called the miners.

[00:00:32] M I N E R, you know, you know, people telling the mines. Do they tell mines?

[00:00:39] Can you tell mine?

[00:00:41] You know, unbelievable. All right.

[00:00:45] They're going to get any better than this.

[00:00:48] What are you talking about? It's going to be great.

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[00:01:09] Eight hours made 80.

[00:01:13] That's right. We measure we measure in time.

[00:01:16] You know, yourself, but I'm the one. Yeah, I'm the one hosting guys.

[00:01:19] It's been a long ass week.

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[00:01:25] Awful. Welcome everybody to another episode of press speed to cancel.

[00:01:28] I'm hosting this week. I just forgot.

[00:01:31] I am sick, Jake and not alone.

[00:01:33] Thankfully I am joined by three friends of mine to talk about a game that is.

[00:01:37] Well, it's a game.

[00:01:39] Wolf, how are you doing this week?

[00:01:41] I'm doing pretty good.

[00:01:43] I have not touched this game in a while, but that's for reasons.

[00:01:49] Not just my own.

[00:01:52] You will dive into that in a bit.

[00:01:54] All right. And chart as well, joining us from the bed and breakfast.

[00:01:58] How are you doing this week? This is, this is, yeah,

[00:02:01] this is my actual bedroom. Welcome everybody.

[00:02:04] It is intimate. We are intimate tonight.

[00:02:07] My kennel is built up. I have my folks are visiting out of town and my kennel

[00:02:10] is in my office. So I probably would have been entertaining to see me behind

[00:02:15] a cage doing the podcast, but didn't give me a whole lot of room to work with.

[00:02:20] Okay. Are you keeping your parents in a kennel?

[00:02:23] I do. Yeah. It helps with messes.

[00:02:26] Look, some wood chips in there. Okay.

[00:02:29] Boomers are getting older GP and we got to get creative with living arrangements.

[00:02:33] I do that plastic boomer.

[00:02:35] Wow. Not you parents.

[00:02:38] Sorry. I'm feeling overly defensive for tonight's episode because I have a feeling

[00:02:42] I'm probably the only one with my beliefs.

[00:02:46] Let's just say that GP wants some points because at least my room is still featured

[00:02:50] on the podcast. I'm just not in it.

[00:02:53] That's true. What's what's best?

[00:02:55] Break it into your office. This is green screen.

[00:02:57] I'm actually on the other side of charge room. Yeah, he's behind the charge bedroom.

[00:03:01] Yeah. He's out of frame.

[00:03:04] Be great if a hand came over on your side there.

[00:03:11] It's great. Awesome. Man. Movie magic.

[00:03:14] So this week, we're not doing that in post weekend. We don't have the budget.

[00:03:18] Speaking of lots of budget and high high production costs this week.

[00:03:22] We're talking about a game that was requested for decades.

[00:03:28] It's a game that was on every gamer's most wanted to be redone a remastered list.

[00:03:32] And that is Final Fantasy 7 remake.

[00:03:35] It took him 20 years but square finally came around and they basically started

[00:03:39] making the remake of this and they turned into a trilogy.

[00:03:43] I'm not here to debate the trilogy and why they need that, but I did see that,

[00:03:47] you know, Final Fantasy 7 re-birth. The second one has been out and is getting

[00:03:51] quite good reviews across the board. And there's a lot of folks who probably

[00:03:54] much like me saw re-birth getting great reviews and said,

[00:03:58] Hmm, maybe I should go blackback and play Final Fantasy 7 remake.

[00:04:03] Charged as well. Same deal because both Charged are like, we got a sickness.

[00:04:08] The sickness is playing every game that comes out whether we are going to like it or not.

[00:04:12] Jake and I have a terrible fear of missing out apparently.

[00:04:15] And we share it and it feels good to both live, because I felt like I lived this alone

[00:04:21] because nobody understood why I didn't want to get something that I didn't like.

[00:04:25] But Jake understands so I'm okay with that.

[00:04:28] Just don't ask me how far I am in Dragon's Dog, Mara Street Fighter 6 or Bald's Gate 3

[00:04:32] or Turbo Kid or, you know, it'll be installed again someday.

[00:04:38] So, yeah, I mean you and I installed recently Final Fantasy 7 remake

[00:04:43] because we wanted to see whether we would like this rebooted trilogy

[00:04:47] or whether it's rebooted game and kind of ignite the passion that we had for the old game.

[00:04:52] Because I think you and I both like the old game as well.

[00:04:54] Yeah, absolutely.

[00:04:55] In fact, I think everybody on this episode right now

[00:04:58] liked the original Final Fantasy 7, I believe.

[00:05:01] I even think he's not here today, but I think 7 was the only one he finished.

[00:05:07] Sinistar?

[00:05:08] If I remember, yeah, Sinistar is out today.

[00:05:11] But I think he said in previous episodes that 7 was probably the only one he either played

[00:05:16] or the only one he's ever beat.

[00:05:18] I don't remember which one it was, but I know he's, I thought he played this one.

[00:05:22] We should address that elephant in the room about Sinistar not being here.

[00:05:28] He was invited down to, I believe it was Central America or Costa Rica somewhere around there

[00:05:32] to break ground on the new Jurassic Park theme park, which is pretty exciting.

[00:05:36] So prayers go out to him and his family.

[00:05:41] Very good.

[00:05:42] Hopefully he stays out of the cages.

[00:05:43] That's for boomers, not for Sinistar.

[00:05:47] Only for visiting parrots.

[00:05:48] Yeah.

[00:05:52] I like the original 7 once.

[00:05:55] Just once?

[00:05:56] Just once.

[00:05:57] Is it you beat him once or you play it again?

[00:06:01] I beat it once.

[00:06:03] I did pretty much everything I cared to do.

[00:06:06] And then I tried going back to it years later, numerous times.

[00:06:09] I've never been able to get out of Midgar, sometimes not even out of the first reactor.

[00:06:15] Oh my God.

[00:06:16] Thank you.

[00:06:17] Okay.

[00:06:18] Thank you.

[00:06:19] Really?

[00:06:20] Okay.

[00:06:21] All right.

[00:06:22] So you don't care as much for a family 7 now when you're trying to play it, but maybe you liked it back in the day.

[00:06:26] And I can relate to that.

[00:06:27] I mean, I said, okay.

[00:06:29] It's like being with Final Fantasy IV, right?

[00:06:31] Like I enjoyed it the first time I played it as a kid, but when I try and play it now, I just can't do it.

[00:06:35] You just keep getting better.

[00:06:37] Still your tongue cannot be smirched the good name of Final Fantasy IV.

[00:06:42] I'll say that for a different episode.

[00:06:44] No, no, no.

[00:06:45] There's going to be a Final Fantasy IV section this episode.

[00:06:47] The way I'm about to just lay it down.

[00:06:51] Like I'm going to let you guys talk for a while and then I'll close out the episode.

[00:06:54] We gave your picks for Best Game of 91 already, G.P. Vaskviki.

[00:06:58] We're here.

[00:06:59] You got that wrong, by the way.

[00:07:00] No, we didn't.

[00:07:01] We said that Runner-Up was Super Tecmo Bowl and the overall was four.

[00:07:06] That's the order we did it in.

[00:07:08] Okay.

[00:07:09] And you guys said Super Tecmo Bowl, right?

[00:07:10] Not just Tecmo Bowl because there's a stark difference.

[00:07:13] He said Super Tecmo Bowl and then I followed it up with a discussion about it.

[00:07:17] And then he came in with your number one, which was Final Fantasy IV.

[00:07:21] I really need to watch the episode.

[00:07:23] Maybe watch more than five seconds of the episode.

[00:07:27] I scrubbed through it to not watch anything you guys were talking about with me.

[00:07:31] I was more interested in your guys' picks.

[00:07:33] You're like, where's my picks?

[00:07:35] There they are.

[00:07:36] They're backwards.

[00:07:37] The rightitude of my picks.

[00:07:39] I was curious about you guys.

[00:07:41] G.P. Scrubbing the episode is what helps us in the algorithm because at least somebody's

[00:07:45] finishing an entire hour-long episode.

[00:07:47] It looks like I'm a fucking DJ too.

[00:07:49] I'm just like, it's great.

[00:07:51] All right.

[00:07:53] Okay.

[00:07:54] So we're not going to...

[00:07:55] You know, some of us like Final Fantasy VII, the original, some of us didn't.

[00:07:58] I mean, it was definitely a game of its time and I know...

[00:08:01] And I can feel why people wanted it to be redone.

[00:08:05] Especially when we've had some stellar remasters over the last number of years.

[00:08:09] So Square decided that they're going to remake this game.

[00:08:13] They quickly realized or maybe they knew it all along that it's a lot of work

[00:08:17] making video games in 2020 and it's a lot of investment,

[00:08:20] a lot of assets to create, a lot of music, a lot of art.

[00:08:23] So they decided that they couldn't do the entire game like they used to.

[00:08:28] They had to break it up.

[00:08:30] And I think in the beginning it was kind of ambiguous on how many entries

[00:08:33] they would do for this series.

[00:08:35] But I believe the official answer now is they're basically doing this remake

[00:08:38] in three parts.

[00:08:39] We had remake, we have rebirth and we have a third one coming

[00:08:42] in the near future.

[00:08:43] I think Wolf...

[00:08:44] What do you guys think of that?

[00:08:45] Wolf called it...

[00:08:46] He thinks it's going to be called reunion and that makes sense to me.

[00:08:49] I actually had to change a heart on that because I think there was

[00:08:54] Final Fantasy VII Crisis Corps reunion not too long ago.

[00:08:57] Yes, there was.

[00:08:59] So I don't think it'll be called reunion unless Square doesn't mind

[00:09:02] being as confusing as Nintendo in which case all for it.

[00:09:06] But I had another name and now I can't remember what it was.

[00:09:10] Look at what they did with the end of Crisis Corps.

[00:09:13] The remaster and the remake that they just put out there.

[00:09:15] Like the way that they're doing the video is it absolutely makes sense

[00:09:18] that there would be that overlap by calling it reunion.

[00:09:22] Either that or resurrection.

[00:09:24] Final Fantasy VII Rebuilt.

[00:09:28] Yeah, or Recoil which is my face.

[00:09:31] Recoiling after I see how much DLC they add to it afterwards.

[00:09:35] That's the thing too.

[00:09:36] Because they've charged four times for the same game.

[00:09:40] And this is the thing right?

[00:09:43] So they split this up into three entries and that's fine.

[00:09:46] First one came out in 2020.

[00:09:48] It's fine.

[00:09:49] It's not fine but it's a thing.

[00:09:51] So 2020 first one comes out.

[00:09:53] 2024 we get the second one.

[00:09:55] We're probably going to get the third one.

[00:09:57] Let's be generous and say three years.

[00:09:59] I think it's probably be closer to four or five.

[00:10:01] But say it's three years.

[00:10:03] That's got to be like the end of the console generation has to be.

[00:10:08] So do you think they're going to come immediately a year after

[00:10:10] and bring out all three and call it the game of the decade edition

[00:10:13] where it's all three and one with all the DLC and all that?

[00:10:16] No, they're going to wait at least two years

[00:10:18] then release the package set.

[00:10:20] Yeah, they'll call it the mortgage edition.

[00:10:23] The mortgage edition.

[00:10:25] And I've said this since the beginning

[00:10:27] because it's not a one for one remake.

[00:10:29] And I think if it had been they could have done it as one release.

[00:10:32] But I think what they should do is when they release the perfect version

[00:10:35] they need to have a version of it that is, you know, just the original.

[00:10:41] People there are always rumors from right after the PS2 was announced

[00:10:45] where they're like, they're going to redo seven.

[00:10:47] It's been the only other rumor that has lasted longer than that

[00:10:52] is that you could have saved Eris in the original one.

[00:10:56] So I really feel like they would be smarter than if they were like,

[00:10:59] oh, also there's a bonus thing where you can just play the original

[00:11:03] with the updated graphics.

[00:11:04] I have a theory about that which is going to be move us into spoiler territory.

[00:11:08] Okay, well then I'll dial it.

[00:11:10] Hold off on spoilers until a little bit later on.

[00:11:12] But we will talk spoilers.

[00:11:13] We have to because people need to know.

[00:11:15] People need to know.

[00:11:16] This game's been out for a while.

[00:11:17] Yeah, if you haven't beaten it by now.

[00:11:19] Yeah, we're not talking about rebirth.

[00:11:21] None of us have played rebirth.

[00:11:22] We're just talking about the remake and our impressions of that

[00:11:25] and whether we would think you should play rebirth or go back to play remake.

[00:11:30] Yeah, so I'm going to say you brought the point, Gep,

[00:11:33] that it's not the original game.

[00:11:35] It's a re-envisioned version of the original.

[00:11:38] They padded it out and that's what that's the nice way of saying they padded it out.

[00:11:43] And I think the reason why is the investment in making all the assets for Midgar,

[00:11:49] which is barely used through the rest of the game.

[00:11:52] I think you go back in the third disc or something in the original,

[00:11:55] but you barely go back to Midgar once you've left it.

[00:11:57] It's almost the entirety of first disc and then you leave and they'll come back.

[00:12:00] That's a lot of asset and a lot of work.

[00:12:03] Just use it for 10 hours.

[00:12:05] I think so that's why they had to pad it out.

[00:12:07] What is remake?

[00:12:09] Charin, how long did it take you to make remake? 40 hours?

[00:12:11] Yeah, I think that's about it.

[00:12:13] That sounds about right.

[00:12:15] I can grab my sneak back and verify, but I don't remember.

[00:12:18] So what was a 10 to 12 hour sequence in the original game is 40 hours in remake.

[00:12:24] But you could have easily taken 10 to 15 hours out of that

[00:12:31] instead of wasting time with some of the things that they literally make you waste time doing.

[00:12:37] Honestly, I probably could have gone longer, but by the end of the game,

[00:12:40] I just wanted to finish it so I didn't do any of the extra stuff because again,

[00:12:45] what you and I talked about and we'll bring that up.

[00:12:47] Jake and I have been having a lot of Marco Polo's about this game

[00:12:51] between one another.

[00:12:52] The things that you brought up made me not want to do any of the extra stuff.

[00:12:56] Like after we discussed it, I just wanted to finish it.

[00:12:59] I played maybe about an hour of the integration DLC.

[00:13:04] Integrate? Oh, is that what you said?

[00:13:06] That's the one with integrated with Ufi.

[00:13:09] So we'll get to the DLC in a second.

[00:13:12] So yeah, so if they could have easily cut out all that added padded content,

[00:13:16] but then the game would only be maybe 20 hours tops is would people have been happy with

[00:13:22] found by seven remake if it was only 20 hours long?

[00:13:25] What do you guys think?

[00:13:27] If you left Midgard and did the rest of the stuff that they didn't have to pad

[00:13:31] towards the end?

[00:13:32] Yeah, I think you could have ended entering Junan.

[00:13:37] I think would have been if you if you remove some of the stuff you're talking about,

[00:13:41] some of the fluff from Midgard, then yeah, that's where I would have put it.

[00:13:45] Like don't let it end after the calm flashbacks, etc.

[00:13:49] Do the Midgard Zolam, do the Chocobo introductions, go through the first like cave.

[00:13:55] And then yeah, find Ufi organically the way you do in the original.

[00:13:59] I think if I had designed it, that's probably where I would have ended it.

[00:14:03] But for me, the big question is at what point do you consider something like extraneous or fluff?

[00:14:09] Because some of the newer missions like, you know, Jesse's house is absolutely relevant and important, you know,

[00:14:15] but then like some of the grocery getter things maybe not so much.

[00:14:20] Move the Midals.

[00:14:22] So, yeah, move.

[00:14:26] That moogle, so filled with joy and happiness.

[00:14:30] Coupo.

[00:14:31] Now, okay, look, Jesse, Jesse was fine.

[00:14:34] I didn't mind the Jesse stuff.

[00:14:36] I'll tell you where it lost me.

[00:14:37] I tried this game two or three times before I finally sat down and got through most of it.

[00:14:41] I did not finish it before the episode.

[00:14:43] But where I got hung up all three times initially was right when you're in sector seven.

[00:14:49] I think it is right where Tifa's bar is.

[00:14:52] And the first moment when you start giving you the side quests, they just pile them on and I'm like, okay,

[00:14:57] maybe I'll do them, maybe I won't or maybe I'll come back and do them.

[00:15:01] But then the game warns you twice if you leave past this point and don't do the side quests,

[00:15:07] you might miss out on being able to do them at all.

[00:15:10] What the hell?

[00:15:11] That's what I quickly realized.

[00:15:12] And they repeat it throughout the entire game.

[00:15:14] There's like hubs and in the hubs or side quests.

[00:15:17] And if you don't do the side quests right then and there, you miss out.

[00:15:20] That's what kind of went through me, especially one side of some of the side quests are things like,

[00:15:26] I've lost my cats.

[00:15:28] There's five cats go find my cats.

[00:15:30] They're not on the map.

[00:15:31] They're not on the map.

[00:15:32] Yeah.

[00:15:33] You got to go around town looking and listening from yowing of cats and try and find them all.

[00:15:36] What the hell was that?

[00:15:38] Except just like utter crap.

[00:15:40] That's real life finding cats.

[00:15:42] Five cats.

[00:15:43] I got to find five cats.

[00:15:44] I don't know if I lost and not found because I didn't care to look for them.

[00:15:48] I'm an expert bounty hunter for fuck's sakes.

[00:15:50] Why do I got to go around town finding cats?

[00:15:52] I got a huge.

[00:15:53] That's a pizza maker saying, why do I got to make all this damn pizza?

[00:15:58] I had a dog who used to get out.

[00:16:00] He was a miniature Greyhound.

[00:16:02] He used to get out of the house and bolt and there was no catching him.

[00:16:05] He was a Greyhound right?

[00:16:07] You know what he did?

[00:16:10] He came home two hours later.

[00:16:12] Every time.

[00:16:13] Where the food is.

[00:16:14] Any door like I'm here.

[00:16:17] You guys put Jason me again.

[00:16:20] Cats don't always come back.

[00:16:22] Cats are assholes.

[00:16:23] They don't they don't need you.

[00:16:24] Dogs will come home.

[00:16:25] Cats are like, maybe but five cats finding five cats.

[00:16:28] Even one of the other side quests is you had to.

[00:16:31] It was like some abandoned like courtyard area.

[00:16:34] You had to go there, kill some monster dogs and then you had to leave and come back.

[00:16:40] Leave and come back.

[00:16:42] Like some of the side quests have this weird back and forth and it's so frustrating.

[00:16:46] Like sometimes they'll be nice and then let you warp back to the quest giver so you can quickly catch it in.

[00:16:51] Great.

[00:16:52] But a lot of them you have to repeat to go back to areas you already explored to kind of redo a side quest.

[00:16:56] And some of them are pretty tedious to get back to.

[00:16:58] And I found that really great, especially when there's there's not much reward item wise.

[00:17:03] Like very little reward.

[00:17:04] There's not much story or plot that goes with it.

[00:17:06] The really doesn't feel like there's a reason to do it or justification to do it.

[00:17:10] That's fun.

[00:17:11] Unless you just like the fetch quest, I guess.

[00:17:14] I don't know.

[00:17:15] I mean for Christ's sake, they automatically tell you once you leave your little hover apartment.

[00:17:21] Let's go get work for you.

[00:17:23] Let's go get some jobs.

[00:17:25] You need to go work.

[00:17:26] Do I need to work?

[00:17:28] We got a plan to go work.

[00:17:30] What am I?

[00:17:31] That's like me driving to my job and they're like, you know what?

[00:17:34] You should deliver some pizzas on your way to work to work for the people around you know who you are.

[00:17:41] I don't care people know who the fuck I know what I don't care.

[00:17:44] I don't care.

[00:17:45] So if I may, let me let me it seems like your guys is complaint.

[00:17:50] Obviously originates from the game, but earlier chart self proclaimed that he and Jake have horrible FOMO or fear of missing out.

[00:18:00] And then Jake goes on to say the game tells you, hey, if you don't do this, you're going to miss out, which is what?

[00:18:07] What you're afraid of.

[00:18:08] Yeah.

[00:18:09] So I think maybe maybe we should there.

[00:18:12] I'm going to tell you why I don't like I don't like FF7 couch.

[00:18:20] Why I do have fear of missing out in those questions.

[00:18:22] You're right, GP.

[00:18:23] I do.

[00:18:24] And that's probably another reason why it bothers me is because I don't like the idea of missing out something that could be important.

[00:18:30] Yeah.

[00:18:31] And this comes from playing the original Final Fantasy games where if you didn't explore, if you didn't steal from enemies, if you didn't do all the exploration, you missed out on some really great items weapons, materia, all that kind of stuff.

[00:18:44] And that's that was my worry right that you're missing those out.

[00:18:46] You could be missing that stuff.

[00:18:47] Yeah.

[00:18:48] Yeah.

[00:18:49] We every time to completion I get it.

[00:18:54] All five minutes.

[00:18:55] There it is.

[00:18:57] But here's the thing.

[00:18:59] I then quickly realized like I kind of push past the first set of side quests.

[00:19:03] There's like four or five you have to do in that thing.

[00:19:05] I think I said no to the cats.

[00:19:07] I respect my time more than that.

[00:19:09] Not much more, but I expect I moved past it and then you have that that guy named was it Charlie Chadley?

[00:19:16] I call him Charlie because Charlie.

[00:19:18] Thanks so bad, Jared.

[00:19:19] It's so bad, Jared.

[00:19:20] I know his stuff, but only because he follows you around so you can repeat those whenever you want when you have time.

[00:19:25] But I did all that and moved to the next hub.

[00:19:27] And then it's the same idea of the next quest hub, more side quests.

[00:19:30] I did them.

[00:19:31] I kind of forced my way through them.

[00:19:33] And then I kind of dawned on me.

[00:19:36] Hey, this game ends at some point.

[00:19:39] And then there was a four year gap before the sequel comes out.

[00:19:43] What carries over from the first game to the sequel?

[00:19:47] How do they connect the two because that's always cool to me like there are certain games like I was at the quest.

[00:19:53] There's the hero series.

[00:19:55] That's the old text adventure games or point and click games.

[00:19:58] Sinister if he was here, he would know.

[00:20:00] He would have been a carry safe file to the games or Mass Effect.

[00:20:04] Mass Effect 1, 2, and 3 stuff carries between the games, right?

[00:20:07] Not a lot, but enough carries through the games.

[00:20:09] So what carries between file by seven remake and rebirth?

[00:20:12] Does it read your save file?

[00:20:14] Does it you have to put a code in?

[00:20:15] Does it password?

[00:20:16] What does it do?

[00:20:17] Is it saving from the cloud and grabbing them from the cloud?

[00:20:19] That'd be funny because your character's name is cloud.

[00:20:21] You know what carries from file by seven remake to rebirth?

[00:20:24] Fucking nothing.

[00:20:26] Nothing to do in rebirth and remake channels into rebirth.

[00:20:30] Not a goddamn thing.

[00:20:32] It's a completely standalone separate game.

[00:20:35] I don't even know how they handle that.

[00:20:37] I even thought, okay, what about the leveling I'm doing?

[00:20:39] I'm getting so many levels GP.

[00:20:41] I'm like taking all my Terria five starring it.

[00:20:44] It's not duplicating.

[00:20:45] I don't think that's okay, but I'm five starring it.

[00:20:47] I'm maxing everything out.

[00:20:48] I got all these levels.

[00:20:49] All my weapons are being upgraded.

[00:20:51] That's going to make a difference in file by three rebirth.

[00:20:54] No, nothing.

[00:20:55] In fact, it even starts you at a lower level in rebirth.

[00:20:58] It doesn't matter what you did in the game.

[00:21:00] The first game.

[00:21:01] It's like it doesn't nothing you didn't matters.

[00:21:03] I can explain this though.

[00:21:05] Think of it this way because it's you're losing the levels as

[00:21:08] you're traversing through the barrier of Midgard into the world.

[00:21:12] So in Kansas, I'm a Kansas seven, maybe a Kansas eight,

[00:21:16] but I'm like a California two, maybe that's being a generous,

[00:21:20] you know, thing.

[00:21:21] So you're definitely that way too.

[00:21:23] I was the strongest one in Midgard and everybody's like,

[00:21:27] fuck you go fight that giant snake.

[00:21:29] And yeah, that's how it goes.

[00:21:32] I'm a California two California two.

[00:21:34] Wow.

[00:21:35] Oh, you're too kind.

[00:21:36] I'm joking.

[00:21:37] I'm being silly.

[00:21:38] Everything's bigger in California.

[00:21:39] That's true.

[00:21:40] Yeah.

[00:21:41] That was the thing that we talked about.

[00:21:42] I'm not going to be a big fan of the game.

[00:21:44] That's true.

[00:21:45] Yeah.

[00:21:46] That was the thing that we talked about that made me not do any

[00:21:48] of the side quests and it's and it's hilarious because if you

[00:21:51] don't do them all and you move on to the next thing,

[00:21:54] Barrett chimes in and says something like, man,

[00:21:57] I wish we could have helped all of those people back there

[00:21:59] and I'd be like, no, no, we don't know.

[00:22:02] We didn't do shit.

[00:22:03] Fucking use grappling hook and climb this goddamn wall.

[00:22:06] Shut your goddamn mouth.

[00:22:08] Stupid.

[00:22:09] I'm going to cast have to die a cloud.

[00:22:11] I don't.

[00:22:13] Yeah.

[00:22:14] I mean, it just is just so blatantly obvious that they were

[00:22:17] just trying to stretch time by adding all the stuff.

[00:22:20] I'm going to go on a small tirade.

[00:22:22] Jake, are you, are you in a good position?

[00:22:24] I'm going to talk about positive things.

[00:22:27] I want to talk about some positive things about the game

[00:22:29] to be honest with you.

[00:22:30] Positive.

[00:22:31] Okay.

[00:22:32] There's a few other there's first I played it twice.

[00:22:34] I bounced off of it the first time.

[00:22:36] This could have been a perfect system for me because I

[00:22:39] spun off of it and I was like, I want to finish it,

[00:22:41] but I spun off of it because I fucking hated it.

[00:22:44] And, you know, the honey be in did not do itself any goddamn

[00:22:48] favors or Mark Hamill playing, you know, the dawn,

[00:22:54] which I still use your next words very carefully about Mark

[00:22:57] Hamill.

[00:22:58] He was a voice actor for the dawn.

[00:23:00] It sounds like somebody trying to be him.

[00:23:02] Okay.

[00:23:03] Okay.

[00:23:04] It sounds like it.

[00:23:05] It sounds like the Joker, like they're best Mark Hamill

[00:23:07] person.

[00:23:08] I'm not sure if you know, but the game is gorgeous.

[00:23:11] The game is stunning from top to bottom.

[00:23:14] It looked great playing through my steam deck.

[00:23:17] I played it on the PC and the PS5 version on my,

[00:23:20] on my stuff and it looks fucking amazing.

[00:23:23] The music.

[00:23:24] Five fantasy seven soundtrack is a banger.

[00:23:27] I don't care what anybody says.

[00:23:28] You don't have to love the game either in the new

[00:23:30] form of the old form soundtrack is an absolute banger.

[00:23:33] I still find myself listening to that soundtrack,

[00:23:35] even though I don't love the game as much as the

[00:23:37] old one.

[00:23:38] I don't know if you've ever heard of it,

[00:23:40] but it's got a great tune.

[00:23:42] The music in this is like extra banger.

[00:23:45] It's really, really good.

[00:23:47] And it's got just like little hints where I love when

[00:23:50] musicians drop little like parts of previous songs and

[00:23:53] like a new song.

[00:23:55] And it's like a callback, you know,

[00:23:57] you're like, oh shit, it's the theme for seven for

[00:23:59] like two seconds.

[00:24:00] Then it goes away and you're like, Oh,

[00:24:02] I'm Jack now.

[00:24:03] This is cool.

[00:24:04] The motorcycle stuff I thought was neat.

[00:24:06] I'm like, oh, I'm going to get a little bit of the

[00:24:09] things that they did in the game.

[00:24:11] I like the combat.

[00:24:12] I know it's very Kingdom Heartsy,

[00:24:14] but I still liked the combat.

[00:24:15] I thought it was a lot of fun at first.

[00:24:17] It was kind of the thing I didn't like about the

[00:24:19] combat was the ATV bar.

[00:24:21] You had to get that full to use items.

[00:24:24] Really?

[00:24:25] I have to have my ATV full to fucking drink a

[00:24:27] potion.

[00:24:28] That pissed me off.

[00:24:29] And I liked that like for magic and attack

[00:24:31] for magic and stuff.

[00:24:32] Fine.

[00:24:33] But to use an item,

[00:24:34] like I played this game on easy because I just was

[00:24:36] trying to get through it because it is hard.

[00:24:39] Even on normal mode,

[00:24:40] this game is very difficult fighting the terror

[00:24:43] house or the murder house or whatever that you

[00:24:46] fight in Wall Market.

[00:24:47] That that fights hard as shit on normal,

[00:24:50] but this game is super easy on easy.

[00:24:52] It's kind of a breeze to walk.

[00:24:54] Yeah.

[00:24:55] It's dramatically easier, which is which is

[00:24:56] interesting,

[00:24:57] but I just wanted to get the story.

[00:24:58] Like I wasn't in it for the challenge.

[00:25:00] It wasn't in for anything.

[00:25:01] The games got some good points.

[00:25:03] But it just there's too much.

[00:25:05] I don't care about Jesse.

[00:25:06] I really wish wedge had died at some point in the

[00:25:09] game.

[00:25:10] Spoiler.

[00:25:11] I can't stand him.

[00:25:12] I don't.

[00:25:13] I can't stand at least, you know,

[00:25:15] biggs was there doing his thing.

[00:25:17] He was a little annoying,

[00:25:18] but he wasn't like up my ass like Jesse was.

[00:25:20] Like I seriously had to shift where how I was

[00:25:23] sitting because she would not get off my

[00:25:26] ass.

[00:25:27] I couldn't stand that character was super

[00:25:29] annoying and I'm not apparently I have found

[00:25:32] out by playing this and I am not a huge anime

[00:25:35] fan because I cannot stand all the anime tropes

[00:25:38] in this God damn game.

[00:25:40] They went way too hard on the anime.

[00:25:43] Hard on the anime.

[00:25:45] Way too much.

[00:25:46] I was like,

[00:25:47] There was points where I just muted the game

[00:25:50] and just met through the stuff because I just

[00:25:53] was just like,

[00:25:54] I'm like, okay, I get it.

[00:25:58] I get it.

[00:25:59] It's an anime.

[00:26:00] Yeah.

[00:26:01] I just couldn't.

[00:26:04] The original had that too, right?

[00:26:06] The original had the same emotions.

[00:26:08] Yeah, they were polygons and they didn't speak.

[00:26:11] There's no voice.

[00:26:12] You know, the graphics.

[00:26:13] You don't like how good the graphics are.

[00:26:15] I love the grand.

[00:26:16] I understood.

[00:26:17] Fantastic.

[00:26:18] I don't like the speaking.

[00:26:20] There's too much talky talky.

[00:26:22] Yeah, you know, it's great.

[00:26:25] But I mean,

[00:26:26] the characters voices are just overdone.

[00:26:30] It's like way overdone for the characters they're playing.

[00:26:33] Like, I don't know if you were in like a dramatic company,

[00:26:36] they'd be like, tone it down, dude.

[00:26:38] Okay.

[00:26:39] This was a production on Broadway.

[00:26:41] Now, I'm gonna go back just a ton.

[00:26:43] I want to devil's advocate this.

[00:26:45] I think part of the reason they over talk everybody

[00:26:48] is to help illustrate how little cloud likes to talk

[00:26:52] and like be around people.

[00:26:54] I think it's to kind of, you know,

[00:26:56] really make you feel like that's how I made that discussion.

[00:27:00] I made that difference of like,

[00:27:02] I know how cloud feels about people now and I hate them all.

[00:27:07] So I get it.

[00:27:08] Is this game trying to make me connect as the main character

[00:27:11] because it's doing a great job.

[00:27:13] That's true.

[00:27:14] I feel more like I like cloud more than this than I did

[00:27:16] the originally.

[00:27:17] Sorry.

[00:27:18] I hated him in this one.

[00:27:20] I don't like him in either one,

[00:27:22] but for me,

[00:27:24] I feel like they took every single character and just made them

[00:27:27] more a caricature of the character they were.

[00:27:30] Yeah.

[00:27:31] And so,

[00:27:32] Eris is like,

[00:27:34] I didn't mind Eris in the original.

[00:27:36] I knew people who were like, good, I'm glad she's dead.

[00:27:39] Wow.

[00:27:40] Which is wow.

[00:27:42] It comes down and does that and people are like,

[00:27:44] fucking finally.

[00:27:45] I've been waiting for this whole game.

[00:27:48] I didn't think they'd do it.

[00:27:49] Yeah.

[00:27:50] I know people that are like that,

[00:27:51] but I liked Eris in the original.

[00:27:54] I didn't mind her at all.

[00:27:56] She was the least offensive person.

[00:27:58] Cloud was okay.

[00:27:59] In this one,

[00:28:00] I feel like Eris is just obnoxiously positive about everything.

[00:28:05] It's gross.

[00:28:07] Too much and cloud is like even more obnoxiously distanced

[00:28:12] from everybody instead of telling,

[00:28:15] instead of just like standing there and being quiet,

[00:28:18] he's actively standoffish.

[00:28:20] So he's even less likable this time.

[00:28:23] Barrett,

[00:28:24] I wish they hadn't leaned so much into the stereotype of who

[00:28:28] his character is because otherwise I like him.

[00:28:33] But they lean too hard into like, yeah, he's the Mr. T.

[00:28:37] It's like, okay.

[00:28:38] I'm angry.

[00:28:39] I'm angry on time and I don't know why.

[00:28:41] I'm angry.

[00:28:42] Marley.

[00:28:43] I love it when a player comes together.

[00:28:44] In the original one,

[00:28:45] he has probably the best character arc.

[00:28:48] Barrett is one of the best characters in the original.

[00:28:51] There you go.

[00:28:52] He's one of the most likable,

[00:28:53] one of the most passionate,

[00:28:54] one of the most loving characters in that game.

[00:28:57] Likeable?

[00:28:58] Okay.

[00:28:59] Yeah.

[00:29:00] Yeah.

[00:29:01] He starts off the game as a terrorist.

[00:29:03] He's doing for his daughter.

[00:29:05] He's a really sweet terrorist though.

[00:29:07] He's murdering for the children.

[00:29:09] Yeah, sure.

[00:29:10] No, no, no, of course.

[00:29:11] Which you talk about characters just being bigger

[00:29:14] than themselves.

[00:29:15] Oh my God.

[00:29:16] Marlene, just shut the fuck up.

[00:29:19] Guys.

[00:29:20] And Tifa in this, she was fine.

[00:29:24] I didn't care one way or the other, honestly.

[00:29:28] They just didn't, they enhanced her attributes.

[00:29:31] Like Chard said,

[00:29:32] they get you in these points where they're like, yeah,

[00:29:35] walk around, get to know people,

[00:29:36] care about the world that I'm like,

[00:29:38] no, this was a fraction of the original game.

[00:29:42] I'm not going to care about these people.

[00:29:44] Thank you.

[00:29:45] You didn't even give us, this guy are sick.

[00:29:47] Like I don't care.

[00:29:49] Was he not somewhere, an NPC somewhere that said close to that line?

[00:29:56] It was probably not, I guess.

[00:29:58] The redhead.

[00:29:59] Guys, I feel represented well in the remake,

[00:30:02] in the game itself as the whispers,

[00:30:05] the arbiters of fate.

[00:30:07] You guys are the little cloud wisps saying,

[00:30:09] no, no, no, stay on the original timeline that we like.

[00:30:12] Please.

[00:30:13] And I'm over here just like, fuck, let's just do all the things.

[00:30:16] Let's see what's up.

[00:30:18] Let's, let's, let's tempt fate together, shall we?

[00:30:21] Come on, Marlene.

[00:30:22] Okay, so no, let me say that.

[00:30:25] I actually liked the added content up on the top plate where

[00:30:28] you go to Jesse's parents' house.

[00:30:30] That was cool to me.

[00:30:31] I liked that.

[00:30:32] I know Chard hated it.

[00:30:34] I enjoyed it.

[00:30:35] I thought it was cool.

[00:30:36] It gave us a little more insight with Jesse Biggs and Wedge.

[00:30:39] And I was okay with that.

[00:30:40] It's a little weird again that they were like,

[00:30:43] trooped to hell.

[00:30:44] Like, I don't know why Wedge is Charlie Sheen, but.

[00:30:48] Let's have pizza on the plate.

[00:30:54] Shut up.

[00:30:55] And then I can't imagine a better voice actor for Biggs,

[00:31:00] honestly, getting badger from Breaking Bad.

[00:31:03] Yeah.

[00:31:05] That was the same actor?

[00:31:06] Yeah.

[00:31:07] Here's what I want.

[00:31:08] That's awesome.

[00:31:09] Okay.

[00:31:10] I want Chard, if you ever have time, just redo some of the

[00:31:13] script as you would write it because here's what I would like.

[00:31:16] I would like there to be a scene that Chard writes where

[00:31:19] Cloud is talking to Wedge and at some point when Wedge

[00:31:23] is talking, Cloud just bucks up and says,

[00:31:26] you know, I would have killed you off by now.

[00:31:28] Yeah.

[00:31:29] Cause that's.

[00:31:31] I'd be separate off with the sword behind Wedge.

[00:31:35] That would be, that's me going finally.

[00:31:38] Just from the sky.

[00:31:39] Yeah.

[00:31:40] We could wait for that forever.

[00:31:41] If you want to, if somebody is listening and you're good

[00:31:43] with fan art, we put in Chard's face on Sephiroth's

[00:31:46] body and then put Biggs' face on Aerith's body.

[00:31:50] I can't stand it.

[00:31:51] It'd be great.

[00:31:52] He survived.

[00:31:53] I'm going to say that the script felt fairly accurate

[00:31:57] to the original game.

[00:31:58] When I, when I played the original game not too long

[00:32:00] ago, I didn't finish it, but I got a good chunk

[00:32:02] through Midgar.

[00:32:03] And then that game was cheesy.

[00:32:04] It's always been cheesy and it's fine.

[00:32:06] It's a JRPG from the nineties.

[00:32:08] That's what they were written like and it's fine.

[00:32:10] And they just captured that story fairly well,

[00:32:13] but the voice acting just makes it so you can

[00:32:18] understand how cringy that dialogue is.

[00:32:20] It's like, it's like Canadian television.

[00:32:22] That's what it feels like cheesy ass script,

[00:32:25] awful acting.

[00:32:26] I'm sorry I'm Canadian, but our acting a lot of

[00:32:29] him sucks low budget performances.

[00:32:31] I hated it.

[00:32:32] Barrett, and I love, I mean it's not the grassy.

[00:32:36] What can I say?

[00:32:37] Sorry, Drake.

[00:32:38] But I love, I love Barrett the character like Wolf,

[00:32:41] but the voice actor was, was leaning heavily into

[00:32:43] the stereotypes that was uncomfortable.

[00:32:45] It didn't care for it.

[00:32:46] Aerith was like I said very annoying and it's

[00:32:48] very apparent.

[00:32:49] I don't know.

[00:32:50] Like a lot of the dialogue wouldn't have been

[00:32:53] so bad if it wasn't voice.

[00:32:55] It's frustrating because my biggest complaint

[00:32:57] with Nintendo recently is they never voice any

[00:33:00] of their games.

[00:33:01] They have all these great Pokemon games and they

[00:33:03] never voice them.

[00:33:04] I think now I've changed my mind.

[00:33:06] I never want to hear a voice in Pokemon because

[00:33:08] I'm probably going to have this same problem

[00:33:10] that I do with FonFy VII.

[00:33:12] It doesn't fit, it doesn't make, it doesn't

[00:33:13] work for my brain.

[00:33:14] I don't like it at all.

[00:33:15] So, and it's just weird but you know what?

[00:33:17] I also don't like the voice over in a lot of

[00:33:19] FonFy VII games.

[00:33:20] Like all the modern ones, 15, didn't like

[00:33:22] the voices either.

[00:33:23] Even 14 can't stand the voice acting in 14,

[00:33:26] especially when the change, the countries

[00:33:28] where the actors are from out of nowhere.

[00:33:30] But I've never liked voice acting in JRPGs.

[00:33:32] It just doesn't fit with me and that's probably

[00:33:34] because of my childhood with un-voice games,

[00:33:37] maybe, I don't know.

[00:33:38] Do you know who did the voice of Pikachu

[00:33:40] in Detective Pikachu?

[00:33:41] I guess he knows.

[00:33:43] It was Dei and Debedo.

[00:33:44] Yeah, no it was Ryan Reynolds.

[00:33:46] I think if you're wanting fine live action

[00:33:48] Canadian acting, you need to watch dogma

[00:33:51] at the end.

[00:33:52] Alanis Morissette as God says nothing,

[00:33:54] nails it.

[00:33:55] Nails it.

[00:33:57] Alanis is here watching.

[00:33:58] You're defending his argument though

[00:34:00] about voice acting.

[00:34:01] I'm just trying to steer him in a productive

[00:34:03] positive direction because I worry about you guys,

[00:34:05] I do.

[00:34:06] You worry about us?

[00:34:07] Listen, so I'm not as bad as Jake

[00:34:09] about the voice acting thing.

[00:34:11] I thought the voice acting in 10 was great.

[00:34:13] I like 15, although I don't care for the

[00:34:15] plot of 15.

[00:34:16] That's not one memeable section.

[00:34:18] I think you're missing the point of that moment.

[00:34:20] I'll cover that in 11.

[00:34:22] I think you're missing the point of that moment.

[00:34:24] I'll cover that at a later date.

[00:34:26] Yeah, that's a different episode.

[00:34:28] I've covered it numerous times on this already.

[00:34:30] I know.

[00:34:31] Can it be the April 1st episode of next year?

[00:34:33] We just talked about the ha ha ha from 10?

[00:34:36] For an hour.

[00:34:37] We could cover it in an hour.

[00:34:39] I like 16 voice acting.

[00:34:41] I like the acting in 14.

[00:34:43] I think all of that's pretty spot on.

[00:34:45] The only one that I'm not a big fan of

[00:34:47] is 12 because I was a fucking

[00:34:51] I'm Von Rothstenberg or whatever the fucking shouting part.

[00:34:56] I am Captain Bosch.

[00:34:58] I hate that shit, but

[00:35:01] this game to me just it's it's everything is just

[00:35:07] forced.

[00:35:08] You're if you're forced to like people

[00:35:11] that you don't necessarily want to like.

[00:35:14] I don't care that these people live in a slum.

[00:35:17] I'm sorry.

[00:35:18] I'm sorry that you lost your five cats.

[00:35:21] I'm sorry.

[00:35:22] I really am, but you know what I want to do much privilege.

[00:35:25] I want to go fight.

[00:35:26] Yeah, it's total.

[00:35:27] This is total first world fucking waspy problems.

[00:35:30] I don't I want to go take on genre.

[00:35:33] I don't want to go pick flowers in the garden.

[00:35:36] I don't want to find some kid who's dressed.

[00:35:38] Why is the kid dressed as a moogle?

[00:35:40] Why are moogles real?

[00:35:42] Yeah, like why are they there?

[00:35:44] I don't understand why they're like, well,

[00:35:46] they're not real, but I'm your dressed as one.

[00:35:48] It doesn't that doesn't make sense.

[00:35:50] They're creatures.

[00:35:51] Random cosplay when people around you are dying of hunger

[00:35:54] and the slums around you and you're dressed up in a pristine

[00:35:57] white moogle costume for fuck's sakes.

[00:36:00] Share the wealth.

[00:36:01] Coupos give us the money in the slums.

[00:36:04] There is not a lot of hope this little kid and his pristine

[00:36:08] white moogle costume.

[00:36:09] It's real clean.

[00:36:11] Let it be let it be, you know, let him shine.

[00:36:14] Beatles would say let it be.

[00:36:16] He might be the savior of the of the slums.

[00:36:20] We don't know.

[00:36:21] I don't in a game like an RPG.

[00:36:24] I hate feeling forced to do anything,

[00:36:27] especially when they claim that it's it's kind of open

[00:36:30] world.

[00:36:31] They ask you if you want to save the cast.

[00:36:33] You can say no.

[00:36:34] I did.

[00:36:35] I said I hope they all drown.

[00:36:37] I'm hoping someone got him in a pool.

[00:36:40] Did you decline?

[00:36:41] You made it clear that you would assist in their demise.

[00:36:45] I don't want to do other people's work when I'm supposed

[00:36:48] to be fighting a bigger evil.

[00:36:50] I don't understand it.

[00:36:52] Yeah, no, no, you're you're out there rescuing cats,

[00:36:54] but you know what's what's going to happen.

[00:36:56] What's coming down and you want to get to it?

[00:36:58] I can understand that.

[00:36:59] Bigger fish fry than some cats lost in a bag.

[00:37:02] The original game was, you know, we're activists

[00:37:05] and we're out to stop Shinra from destroying the

[00:37:08] world.

[00:37:09] Not.

[00:37:10] This is the big story, but you get to be a task rabbit

[00:37:13] for more than half the game.

[00:37:15] I agree that stuff is overdone, but again, this is not

[00:37:18] Final Fantasy 7.

[00:37:19] The original.

[00:37:20] Is that what you guys were wrong?

[00:37:22] No, but yeah, it should, but it's okay.

[00:37:25] If we're just going to do a graphical update, they

[00:37:28] did not need to wait this long to do it.

[00:37:30] They could have done that on the PS3 and it would

[00:37:32] have been great.

[00:37:33] I think it's great that this is not that same game.

[00:37:35] There's enough there that you understand it right now.

[00:37:37] There's enough there that you understand and recognize it,

[00:37:39] but the fact that you're veering off into a new timeline

[00:37:41] and the way they handle that, I thought was wonderful.

[00:37:44] I agree that the task stuff is a bit much considering,

[00:37:49] you know, how far they took you in the game or how far

[00:37:52] they didn't take you in the game, but I don't,

[00:37:55] I just, I don't want to play Final Fantasy 7 with

[00:37:58] NeuroGraphics.

[00:37:59] I already have Final Fantasy 7.

[00:38:01] I've played that.

[00:38:02] I have a brain to help me with the graphics.

[00:38:04] I grew up playing NES and Super Nintendo games.

[00:38:06] I don't mind making that leap in my brain.

[00:38:09] So GP, I agree with you.

[00:38:13] I am totally okay with here's a new version of the story.

[00:38:18] It's not the same stuff you've been dealing with

[00:38:20] for 10, 15 years.

[00:38:21] It's a new rendition.

[00:38:22] I love that stuff.

[00:38:24] I was all on board for the Cowboy Bebop live action

[00:38:27] because it changed things up.

[00:38:29] I was ready for it.

[00:38:30] Everybody else was like, what the fuck?

[00:38:32] But of course those same people are like, yes,

[00:38:35] absolutely with Final Fantasy 7.

[00:38:37] Of course.

[00:38:38] Right?

[00:38:39] So here's the part where it lost.

[00:38:41] Hold on, hold on.

[00:38:42] If you're going to change things up and make the game longer,

[00:38:48] make it also fun and tolerable at best.

[00:38:54] Thanks and bring it good.

[00:38:56] Thank you.

[00:38:57] I get you.

[00:38:58] I felt like this game was too much toe in.

[00:39:01] We want to try something new and different and toe in.

[00:39:04] We don't want to push away the people that love the old stuff.

[00:39:07] So we can't, there were times where it felt like, yeah,

[00:39:10] we're going to change this.

[00:39:11] I know people are getting mad putting it with, steer back, steer back.

[00:39:15] Oh, let's throw some spirits in there.

[00:39:17] Let's throw some ghosts in there to make it seem like we're

[00:39:20] trying to steer it away, but they're trying to put it on that.

[00:39:23] That'll be our cover up.

[00:39:24] It's like fucking guardian forces making people forget that

[00:39:27] their friends growing up stupid fucking.

[00:39:30] No, I think I lost me.

[00:39:32] Here's where it lost me.

[00:39:33] I have to say this.

[00:39:35] When I finally got in the playing remake and I got to a point

[00:39:38] where I'm like, you know what?

[00:39:39] Now it's getting good.

[00:39:40] Now it's getting interesting.

[00:39:41] Now things are hitting the fan.

[00:39:43] And it was a sequence where you had to go to the,

[00:39:45] the support underneath the plate and cause she never was going

[00:39:48] to drop the plate down in crush sector seven.

[00:39:50] That moment was amazing in the original game.

[00:39:53] It was compelling.

[00:39:54] It was just chilling.

[00:39:56] That was looking forward to in a remake.

[00:39:58] And when I saw what that was kind of leading toward that

[00:40:01] direction, I'm like, I told chart and P, I'm like, all right,

[00:40:03] I'm at the plate falling is going to be great.

[00:40:05] But it felt like I feel like every time that roller coaster

[00:40:08] starting to go, they'd add a hill and they slow you down.

[00:40:12] Like the whole sequence where you had to,

[00:40:14] it cuts away to Ayrath having to go find Marlene,

[00:40:17] which makes no sense because she doesn't know who Marlene

[00:40:19] is, but Tico's like, go find Marlene.

[00:40:21] And but it brings up the momentum was kill GP.

[00:40:24] It was crushed.

[00:40:25] Like even when I'm going to get Marlene, I'm like, all right,

[00:40:27] I'm going to go get Marlene.

[00:40:28] It'll be five minutes.

[00:40:29] I'll get Marlene.

[00:40:30] You can't write in 40 minutes later and I can't,

[00:40:32] I can't go past the burning helicopter.

[00:40:34] I have to go around the helicopter.

[00:40:36] Why?

[00:40:37] Because they need to buy another 20 minutes of game play

[00:40:40] for some reason.

[00:40:41] And like, I don't mind that they added the rescue Marlene

[00:40:44] because that was always a weird thing in the original

[00:40:46] and that makes sense.

[00:40:47] But why does it have to take 40 minutes to go get her

[00:40:50] when it's five minutes side sequence?

[00:40:52] This is going to wait into. Yeah, they want to show off.

[00:40:55] Look at how good we've made this.

[00:40:57] But can I this is going to go into spoiler territory?

[00:40:59] Is this okay?

[00:41:00] Let's do it.

[00:41:01] Okay.

[00:41:02] So I think at this point, yeah, there's story stuff that we

[00:41:04] want spoiled stuff that is different in remake that was

[00:41:06] not in the original.

[00:41:07] So if you are not into spoilers, please, I mean, we're sorry.

[00:41:10] Yeah.

[00:41:11] Um, okay.

[00:41:12] So here's the thing.

[00:41:13] Sephiroth is from what I can tell this my interpretation

[00:41:16] of this acutely aware of the fact that he is trying

[00:41:20] to accomplish something that will make him all powerful.

[00:41:23] But he is also aware that he can deviate this timeline

[00:41:26] because his original plan as he's going down it will

[00:41:29] fail.

[00:41:30] Now he and Aerith are connected as ancients or as whatever

[00:41:34] their relation is, and they were originally going to be

[00:41:36] like cousins or something like that in the original version

[00:41:38] of Final Fantasy seven.

[00:41:39] That's why they look so similar in their character design.

[00:41:42] I'm sure you guys know that.

[00:41:43] Aerith, I policy is also aware of the timeline

[00:41:48] because she makes mention of, you know, thanking cloud

[00:41:51] for the memories, even though they've only known each other

[00:41:53] for a little while.

[00:41:54] All these things she finishes a sentence about you want me

[00:41:57] to go save Marlene.

[00:41:58] She doesn't know who Marlene is because she's already lived

[00:42:01] through this or she is aware of it or she's from that

[00:42:04] original timeline but was brought over with Sephiroth

[00:42:06] when he came over.

[00:42:07] So there are other plot points by the time you finish

[00:42:10] that if you look back and you look at the main beats

[00:42:13] of the story, I think it's insanely well done provided

[00:42:17] they execute it well in the next one.

[00:42:19] Now I haven't played moment one of rebirth.

[00:42:22] I've only done remake.

[00:42:24] So there's still some things I don't know about,

[00:42:27] but where it leaves you at the end of remake is so like

[00:42:32] what the fuck but still very, very cool.

[00:42:35] That's as much as I'll go into now.

[00:42:39] If other things get brought up, I'll add to it

[00:42:41] but I don't want to ruin things.

[00:42:43] Yeah, because I didn't finish it.

[00:42:46] I think I finished off the plate fell and I'm with Barrett

[00:42:50] and the first thing he basically said was there's a lot

[00:42:52] of people we could help and I'm like fuck you.

[00:42:54] They kind of turned it off.

[00:42:56] I'm going to finish it but the fact that they took

[00:42:58] such a wild ride with the plate falling and all that stuff

[00:43:02] and then immediately goes into oh it's a quest hub

[00:43:04] go save people it kind of killed my momentum with the game

[00:43:07] and I went and played Bellatra for five hours.

[00:43:10] They were like please help my legs caught underneath

[00:43:12] this thing and I was like fuck you I'm going to Shinra.

[00:43:15] You know what it was Charred is as I told you is at that point

[00:43:18] is when I realized all the items I may get from these

[00:43:21] quests I may find a material may find none of it carries

[00:43:24] over to a sequel so why am I wasting time in the last couple

[00:43:27] hours to find this shit.

[00:43:29] I went up what you get for the missions just to see

[00:43:32] if I didn't already have some of them or if there was

[00:43:34] like an ultimate weapon or something in there and there

[00:43:37] wasn't anything really worth spending another five

[00:43:41] hours for me to not use in the next game so I was like

[00:43:45] I'm just I want to see where this is going to go.

[00:43:48] The final the final fight of this game is so fucking

[00:43:54] bizarre and I don't care for it and I and it's

[00:43:59] it's MCUing me it is it is taking it's totally

[00:44:03] taking time travel and instead of using the time

[00:44:06] stone time travel they use quantum mechanics to time

[00:44:10] travel.

[00:44:12] No no anyways it's I'm sorry just know you should

[00:44:16] not anyway and see if anything they're back if they are

[00:44:19] they're taking a story and they're like we're going

[00:44:22] to make it so that we're changing it but then

[00:44:24] we're going to put this cool little spin so it

[00:44:27] looks like we're going to try and keep it the same

[00:44:29] then they're going to have a big boss battle with

[00:44:31] the fucking fates what okay but do you realize who

[00:44:35] the fates are who those three fates are fucking nobody's

[00:44:38] from Kingdom heart that's who it is no no there's a

[00:44:41] guy with a gun a guy with a sword and somebody with

[00:44:43] their fists that's very cloud and Tifa from the

[00:44:45] future timelines.

[00:44:47] It's dumb so there's a thing so I never finished it

[00:44:50] so I don't mind the spoilers it's fine so they

[00:44:53] have to justify how this is different from the

[00:44:55] original so they're doing this with a multiverse

[00:44:57] story I feel like they're doing a multiverse

[00:44:59] thing and this is my big spoiler but this is

[00:45:02] all speculation for me I think they're not going

[00:45:05] to kill Aerith how many are gonna keep her ass

[00:45:07] alive and I think because Zach either Zach or

[00:45:11] what or because she is so loved and everybody's

[00:45:14] like man I wish we could save her they're

[00:45:16] gonna save her in the third one and it's

[00:45:19] gonna be we're gonna get to that scene

[00:45:21] where Sephiroth's flying down with a sword

[00:45:23] and something's gonna happen he goes oh

[00:45:26] cloud had a vision and he saw it coming

[00:45:29] and we save her so that she could be fuck

[00:45:32] fuck that's I guarantee that's gonna happen

[00:45:35] the bravest thing they could do is replace

[00:45:37] Aerith with cloud in that scene and take

[00:45:39] the blade that would instantly get me

[00:45:41] on board if cloud dies in her place

[00:45:43] that would fucking be amazing you know

[00:45:45] but they're not gonna do this if we're

[00:45:47] talking like Star Trek like mix up

[00:45:50] with Chris Pine was dead at a spark

[00:45:53] but it was still the same thing it was

[00:45:55] just switched places for one reason or

[00:45:57] another because the timeline was fucked

[00:45:59] up I'm in on that if somebody dies

[00:46:01] because they stabbed her in the

[00:46:03] tower but who saved him the fucking

[00:46:06] fate saved him the fuck you man like

[00:46:09] just there is the main character of

[00:46:12] seven like in the original one I

[00:46:14] understand you're playing as cloud but

[00:46:15] beard is the main character of the

[00:46:17] original seven if you were to kill him

[00:46:19] off if they had left him dead if they

[00:46:21] wiped him out early on all the

[00:46:23] things that wouldn't have happened if

[00:46:24] they wiped him out early on would have

[00:46:26] been on board and not because they got

[00:46:28] rid of him and I don't like him as a

[00:46:30] character but because they changed

[00:46:32] something so drastic that I'd be like

[00:46:34] oh okay this is interesting because

[00:46:37] they're not again to me this is

[00:46:40] totally my feeling that they are they

[00:46:43] got one toe in the old pool and one

[00:46:45] toe in the new pool and they cannot

[00:46:47] commit to either one and it feels

[00:46:49] like that when they keep dragging you

[00:46:51] to what could be something cool and new

[00:46:53] they throw the stupid fucking phantoms

[00:46:55] in there and they bring it back and it's

[00:46:57] like no no no we can't do that and what

[00:46:59] do you got to your point charred I have

[00:47:01] a theory that they're actually going to

[00:47:03] not have aris die at the part where

[00:47:06] sephiroth drops down with the sword

[00:47:08] think she's not gonna die for a few

[00:47:11] hours I think they're gonna kill her

[00:47:13] later I think she's still good at

[00:47:15] destination right now found the

[00:47:17] file destination file fans there's

[00:47:20] a fancy destination there's a thought

[00:47:22] exercise involving fate and billiard

[00:47:26] balls I'm not gonna go deep into it but

[00:47:28] basically the idea is if time travel

[00:47:31] were real more than likely you could

[00:47:33] change a few things but the universe

[00:47:35] or whatever will end up course correcting

[00:47:38] so that the main plot points of

[00:47:40] whatever is supposed to happen will

[00:47:42] happen it was kind of this thing so

[00:47:45] they could try to explain the

[00:47:46] grandfather paradox yada yada yada

[00:47:47] it's boring so I'm kind of with

[00:47:50] full phone that one and charred by

[00:47:52] extension I think they're gonna give

[00:47:54] you the option of saving air but I

[00:47:55] think somebody still has to go and

[00:47:57] likely Zach or erith will be taken out

[00:48:00] later on if not both if they give

[00:48:02] you like Zach it wouldn't be nearly

[00:48:04] as impactful because nobody gives a

[00:48:06] fuck about Zach he's barely in the

[00:48:08] original if you give me a massive

[00:48:10] act type option where my decisions

[00:48:13] throughout the game would make claim

[00:48:16] to some party member like some party

[00:48:18] member has to go also speaking of

[00:48:20] party members this is a total tangent

[00:48:22] but why the fuck is it red 13 playable

[00:48:24] in the first one why is he only running

[00:48:26] around with you because I love that

[00:48:28] character and his design of the game is

[00:48:30] sick right and then you can't play him

[00:48:32] until rebirth that was horseshit anyways

[00:48:34] if they if you take out a character

[00:48:37] with your choices that you've made up

[00:48:40] into three that would be okay that

[00:48:43] would be kind of cool fuck I killed

[00:48:45] Kate Sith which nobody likes anyway

[00:48:47] so it's fine or oh fun I killed

[00:48:50] Vincent I didn't mean to do that like

[00:48:52] if someone goes but you have the option

[00:48:55] of who it is that's going to go since

[00:48:57] we're playing with the fates here right

[00:48:59] we have the option to change things if

[00:49:01] we want to someone has to go I think

[00:49:04] Jake's idea of like cloud swapping

[00:49:06] with errors that would be so good yeah

[00:49:08] awesome that would be a trip and then

[00:49:11] you could have Zach who's an actual

[00:49:13] interesting great heroic protagonist

[00:49:16] take you know okay what would have been

[00:49:18] his body why do you say that though GP

[00:49:20] because I've not played the five spin

[00:49:22] off the file that is seven is that

[00:49:24] why you like the character because in

[00:49:26] the original game he was barely in it

[00:49:28] yeah no I agree the way that he was

[00:49:30] done especially like I watched

[00:49:32] playthroughs of crisis course a full

[00:49:34] disclosure I myself did not play it

[00:49:36] the way that he is portrayed and built

[00:49:38] up in crisis core including the ending

[00:49:40] FMV's and again I don't want to say

[00:49:42] much because there's some big things

[00:49:44] he's just this really good interesting

[00:49:47] protagonist who does the hero thing

[00:49:49] without being overly cheesy or overly

[00:49:52] archetyped that makes sense I'll say

[00:49:56] it this way if you go and play crisis

[00:49:58] core if you go and watch the FMV is there's

[00:50:00] a spot at the end of crisis core and the

[00:50:02] way they did this is brilliant because

[00:50:04] they did the remake or the remaster of

[00:50:06] crisis core he's standing there and he

[00:50:08] sees this hill full of people who are

[00:50:10] trying to kill him and he says

[00:50:12] the price of whatever is real steep

[00:50:16] the price of freedom or whatever is real

[00:50:18] steep but he sounds in crisis core like

[00:50:20] I'm about to go kill all these guys

[00:50:22] because that's what I got to do to save

[00:50:24] cloud but then in this one they have

[00:50:28] the actors say the line a little bit

[00:50:30] different and that kind of starts to

[00:50:32] mark the deviation and it's more

[00:50:34] this like you know he knows he's

[00:50:36] probably going to die but he still

[00:50:38] got to try and it's like and I

[00:50:40] don't know just small shit like that

[00:50:42] especially if you're familiar with the character

[00:50:44] and who he is and how he's been built up

[00:50:46] he's so much better than cloud in my

[00:50:48] opinion which is very correct so

[00:50:50] that's why in a nutshell stuff like

[00:50:52] that he's awesome without being a dick

[00:50:54] or that being cocky he's just doing

[00:50:56] the right thing because it's the right thing

[00:50:58] and he can identify that

[00:51:00] before this podcast cloud is pretty much

[00:51:02] a low tier when it comes to personality

[00:51:04] I don't think many people like the character

[00:51:06] so it's I'm glad Zach is better

[00:51:08] but I mean low bar is low

[00:51:10] the best thing that ever happened to make clouds seem

[00:51:12] interesting was Squall from 8 so

[00:51:14] I'll say that one

[00:51:16] true yeah

[00:51:18] thank you

[00:51:20] we're dropping a lot of hate on 8 without anybody knowing

[00:51:22] I love it

[00:51:24] what can we say about 8 that I had not

[00:51:26] already been said

[00:51:28] I'm excited when I

[00:51:30] two years ago

[00:51:32] and you guys rightfully kind of

[00:51:34] lampooned me for this we were doing Game of the Year

[00:51:36] and I had chosen Final Fantasy 7 Remake

[00:51:38] even though I had not yet finished it

[00:51:40] but it

[00:51:42] to what charred saying because he's right

[00:51:44] but I'm just on the opposite side of that coin

[00:51:46] they are walking a very fine line between

[00:51:48] here's some new shit with the old shit that you like

[00:51:50] but we can also completely

[00:51:52] do away with the old shit

[00:51:54] so in a way it's

[00:51:56] a fine line or it's a completely

[00:51:58] unwinnable battle depending on

[00:52:00] your outlook on life

[00:52:02] I want to

[00:52:04] agree with you and talking this through

[00:52:06] more and again playing it again

[00:52:08] and giving it another shot

[00:52:10] I can see where GP's

[00:52:12] on the positive side of the fence because

[00:52:14] it's

[00:52:16] maybe they were testing the waters

[00:52:18] you know because they didn't know if they were going to make

[00:52:20] any more of the remake maybe they

[00:52:22] had plans on doing it I don't know

[00:52:24] but they were probably maybe feeling like well let's

[00:52:26] feel this out let's see if people are going to be okay

[00:52:28] if we kind of go full

[00:52:30] inception on this thing and

[00:52:32] we're going to go into the third dream

[00:52:34] and make sure everybody's cool with that before we

[00:52:36] you know

[00:52:38] I don't know it just seemed to me

[00:52:40] when I first played it

[00:52:42] knowing that it wasn't going to be the same thing

[00:52:44] I had no expectations of going in going

[00:52:46] this is going to be the same thing

[00:52:48] but what bothered me was that

[00:52:50] it was the same thing with different shit in it

[00:52:52] it wasn't

[00:52:54] different enough and it wasn't similar enough

[00:52:56] for me to be like this is really cool

[00:52:58] Dead Space

[00:53:00] was

[00:53:02] perfect in the idea that it was

[00:53:04] the same thing with different stuff in it

[00:53:06] but it still was good to the

[00:53:08] source material throughout the rest of the game

[00:53:10] it's saddened to hear there's no Dead Space 2 remake

[00:53:12] coming out that makes me very upset but

[00:53:14] yeah with this it was like

[00:53:16] I'm interested to see like because

[00:53:18] we're talking like a magnifying glass

[00:53:20] on what's going on in Midgar as

[00:53:22] opposed to the overview of the whole world right

[00:53:24] and the spreading things out and all that stuff

[00:53:26] we are we are really getting into

[00:53:28] the weeds on what's going on in Midgar

[00:53:30] and

[00:53:32] what he had to deal with to go through it and some

[00:53:34] of it was pretty cool to see like

[00:53:36] a more in-depth version of the playground

[00:53:38] and maybe I hated the whole

[00:53:40] Walmart air or wall

[00:53:42] market

[00:53:44] Walmart I hate

[00:53:46] was pretty

[00:53:48] accurate that's a Freudian right there

[00:53:50] but I didn't care for any of that

[00:53:52] I thought the honeybee in dancing was

[00:53:54] completely ridiculous and not needed

[00:53:56] there's a lot of mini games in there now

[00:53:58] I know you could snowboard in the original

[00:54:00] and you ride the bike and all that stuff with the original

[00:54:02] that's fine but it felt like those were choices

[00:54:04] that I could be like I just don't feel like doing that

[00:54:06] this was like you have to do this

[00:54:08] to get on to the next damn thing

[00:54:10] and it was it was goofy

[00:54:12] but it wasn't if you like it was tedious

[00:54:14] yes it was just it was tedious and boring

[00:54:16] and I really

[00:54:18] want I really either want them to go

[00:54:20] way right or way left

[00:54:22] I don't like this

[00:54:24] I'm looking down a corridor and kind of

[00:54:26] veering back and forth

[00:54:28] I'm like wolf like commit to something

[00:54:30] different

[00:54:32] or like Jake commit to the original

[00:54:34] and just do it the best you can

[00:54:36] like I

[00:54:38] I want something to be so big

[00:54:40] in rebirth that just flips the script

[00:54:42] on me so hard that I'm like

[00:54:44] okay that's consequential

[00:54:46] exactly right

[00:54:48] you could stick yeah

[00:54:50] but what I was saying in the beginning of the episode was

[00:54:52] if they did I mean sinister

[00:54:54] I think last week actually

[00:54:56] Diablo 2 Resurrection Edition

[00:54:58] where the hell it was it's basically a remaster of the original D2

[00:55:00] and the neat thing with that was

[00:55:02] it was the same game with the better engine

[00:55:04] of graphics on top of it and you could actually flip between

[00:55:06] the old style and the new style

[00:55:08] the original Final Fantasy 7 if you go back to it

[00:55:10] today the graphics are rough

[00:55:12] right I mean there's nostalgia glasses

[00:55:14] when you think when I think of that game

[00:55:16] it does not look like the cutscenes you remember

[00:55:18] it's very low poly so if they'd taken

[00:55:20] original and just redone all the

[00:55:22] 3D graphics in the backgrounds and done that

[00:55:24] I would have enjoyed it

[00:55:26] but there's no way that

[00:55:28] I would have enjoyed if it was still split into three parts

[00:55:30] and Square wouldn't have made as much money

[00:55:32] and like net

[00:55:34] net number of fans are probably upset with it

[00:55:36] they're not even making all that much money off of this one

[00:55:38] apparently

[00:55:40] rebirth is not selling

[00:55:42] as well as they'd hoped it would

[00:55:44] it's not selling nearly as well as the first one

[00:55:46] I wonder why

[00:55:48] I think 3 million is what I was

[00:55:50] is either 2 million and then 16 has sold 3 million

[00:55:52] but I mean it's only on

[00:55:54] fucking PlayStation 5

[00:55:56] that's the big argument

[00:55:58] we're sitting here talking about it so it's going to see the

[00:56:00] Balochro bump

[00:56:02] so they can look forward to that

[00:56:04] like you said kind of toward the top of the episode

[00:56:06] the

[00:56:08] critical reception

[00:56:10] this one's been quite a bit better than

[00:56:12] the first one I guess the second one that came out

[00:56:14] was doing better than the first so if the numbers

[00:56:16] aren't there yet

[00:56:18] I imagine they'll see it either when they

[00:56:20] come out with the ultimate edition

[00:56:22] I think that one will probably sell like hotcakes

[00:56:24] especially if they stick the landing with whatever the third

[00:56:26] installment will be

[00:56:28] I wouldn't mind having

[00:56:30] if this can sound critical

[00:56:32] a graphical remake of the first one

[00:56:34] but again if that's all they were going to do

[00:56:36] I would be a little bit let down

[00:56:38] now was the first one overly artificially

[00:56:40] inflated absolutely

[00:56:42] I mean there's so many mods out there

[00:56:44] that people have on their

[00:56:46] game to make it look good

[00:56:48] I've seen people with retro

[00:56:50] sexual plays some really cool mods

[00:56:52] that make the game look

[00:56:54] really good

[00:56:56] they took eight and they made a remastered version

[00:56:58] of eight that actually cleaned it up

[00:57:00] very nicely for being a piece of

[00:57:02] shit I mean you can polish a turd

[00:57:04] it's shiny but it's still a shit bag

[00:57:06] take that

[00:57:08] and put it into fucking seven

[00:57:10] and just do that

[00:57:12] I don't think that's enough

[00:57:14] think about what seven is you can do that with eight

[00:57:16] because of what eight was and I'm sorry

[00:57:18] I know I'm talking too much but ok

[00:57:20] here's a great example here's the difference

[00:57:22] between Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy VII

[00:57:24] when they did the

[00:57:26] DS remake of four

[00:57:28] they did the voice acting which is fantastic

[00:57:30] they did the augment system

[00:57:32] and they did a few extra

[00:57:34] super bosses and things like that

[00:57:36] but the story stayed

[00:57:38] what it always has been

[00:57:40] but they did it for worse they gave you some new game

[00:57:42] plus you know replay values and that's great

[00:57:44] but seven was such

[00:57:46] a fucking phenomenon

[00:57:48] culturally, globally, video

[00:57:50] game wise that if you were just

[00:57:52] going to do that with seven remake

[00:57:54] it up the graphics do voice acting

[00:57:56] and then maybe do something equivalent to the augment system

[00:57:58] I don't think

[00:58:00] that would have really been as satisfying

[00:58:02] what they're doing here is that big swing

[00:58:04] for the fences chart that you're saying you want them to do

[00:58:06] they just keep retconning

[00:58:08] things as soon as anything big happens

[00:58:10] but the cliffhanger there again

[00:58:12] that is a tremendous thing that I feel

[00:58:14] will stick

[00:58:16] we haven't actually talked to

[00:58:18] we're going along in this episode but I just wanted to touch on

[00:58:20] the gameplay aspects of the remake

[00:58:22] I don't like what they did

[00:58:24] with the material system I don't

[00:58:26] my favorite thing of JRPGs

[00:58:28] in the last 30 years

[00:58:30] maybe the job system was number

[00:58:32] number one for a while but I think number one is

[00:58:34] material system from Final Fantasy VII

[00:58:36] I love that you have equipping stones on characters

[00:58:38] and give them spells

[00:58:40] I love that you can upgrade those spells

[00:58:42] update those materials get more spells

[00:58:44] not nearly as good

[00:58:46] as seven though right

[00:58:48] but the customization of seven is what

[00:58:50] sold me on that game

[00:58:52] espers are nowhere near material come on be real

[00:58:54] I like material

[00:58:56] how do you learn spells?

[00:58:58] I like material a lot

[00:59:00] I like material in seven

[00:59:02] but in this one

[00:59:04] I found a lot of material were lacking

[00:59:06] or didn't really do a whole lot

[00:59:08] the fact that they don't even think they split when you max them out

[00:59:10] which is no point to split them because

[00:59:12] it's such a smaller piece of the overall game

[00:59:14] but like even the summoning

[00:59:16] material which in the original game was

[00:59:18] like the centerpiece of the graphic showcase

[00:59:20] seeing fucking the summons appear on the screen

[00:59:22] in this game there are few and far between

[00:59:24] I mean maybe

[00:59:26] maybe you could spam them too much in the original

[00:59:28] and they had to like spread it out I get it

[00:59:30] but I feel like I've seen

[00:59:32] this Shiva like twice in my

[00:59:34] playthrough so far I haven't even bothered

[00:59:36] summoning Mog and Chocobo

[00:59:38] because

[00:59:40] you see you get so few chances

[00:59:42] to summon things it feels like a waste

[00:59:44] not to use the one that is great for that encounter

[00:59:46] so I've just been using Ifrit and Shiva

[00:59:48] and I have I bought the integrated edition

[00:59:50] when I got this so I have

[00:59:52] a few integrate only

[00:59:54] material that you get for free

[00:59:56] fat Chocobo and then like Cactar

[00:59:58] or something and I never bothered equipping them

[01:00:00] thinking like oh you know maybe I'll

[01:00:02] wait because I'm sure there's dozens of other summons

[01:00:04] to find and I'll use those no

[01:00:06] there's like three or four and you don't even find them

[01:00:08] really in the map though I think there's one you find on the map

[01:00:10] the rest you get from fucking Charlie

[01:00:12] sorry Charity

[01:00:14] and that's it right

[01:00:16] in fairness though in the original

[01:00:18] PlayStation 1 there were zero summons

[01:00:20] in Midgar you didn't get the first one until the Chocobo form

[01:00:22] is that true

[01:00:24] really you don't get them at all okay

[01:00:26] yep first one was Chocobo

[01:00:28] but again that's Devil's Advocate

[01:00:30] I get you

[01:00:32] Gameplay wise is somebody who

[01:00:34] this is the most recent game that I've played

[01:00:36] by a long shot so

[01:00:38] really this is

[01:00:40] light years ahead of what I was

[01:00:42] doing so

[01:00:44] I like it because it's novel to me and I think

[01:00:46] it's great but again

[01:00:48] I'm out of my depth with that so

[01:00:50] yeah like I didn't I didn't mind the action

[01:00:52] e-combat because I'm actually

[01:00:54] 15 got a lot of hate when that came

[01:00:56] out and there's a lot of criticisms I have

[01:00:58] about that game but I actually like the combat in it

[01:01:00] yeah and there's definitely elements of 15

[01:01:02] combat in set and remake and I think that's

[01:01:04] fine I like the action e-combat I like

[01:01:06] the dodging I like the defense I like all that

[01:01:08] stuff but I'm with Charred when he said

[01:01:10] earlier the ATB gauge

[01:01:12] it doesn't go up unless you're

[01:01:14] actively controlling that character

[01:01:16] which means you have two people

[01:01:18] falling around who almost never use their abilities

[01:01:20] it doesn't feel like it's

[01:01:22] been tweaked enough like

[01:01:24] I see what they're trying to do to change this

[01:01:26] to make it more of a modern spin on RPGs

[01:01:28] but I feel like they focus

[01:01:30] more on padding out Midgar and the plot

[01:01:32] in the story and they didn't give enough

[01:01:34] attention to the actual gameplay mechanics

[01:01:36] maybe that's different in rebirth I've

[01:01:38] heard Gold Saucers in rebirth so maybe

[01:01:40] there's more gameplay and fun stuff

[01:01:42] mechanic wise but I really feel like

[01:01:44] seven remake if you're playing remake you're just playing for the

[01:01:46] story and you just you just shove it on easy

[01:01:48] because there's nothing engaging in the

[01:01:50] gameplay for me yep

[01:01:52] and now all that from someone who

[01:01:54] just flipped it to easy and just played

[01:01:56] it just to finish it all that

[01:01:58] is true because I just wanted to get it

[01:02:00] done like I didn't feel there was anything

[01:02:02] that was going to grip me and bring me in

[01:02:04] when I continued playing it it was

[01:02:06] more or less I got to get this done

[01:02:08] because I want to be able to talk about it

[01:02:10] in confidence next week

[01:02:12] not oh I really want to play this because

[01:02:14] I want to know what happens like I went to the ghost

[01:02:16] train yard and I was like can this

[01:02:18] game be over please yeah

[01:02:20] can I just find the way out of this fucking train yard

[01:02:22] please I kept telling my kids yeah

[01:02:24] Daisy Mcdiner and like give me like 15 minutes

[01:02:26] I'm almost at the end of the train graveyard

[01:02:28] I'm 15 minutes you have dinner

[01:02:30] fucking two hours later my children are at the table

[01:02:32] screaming and crying and cold and hungry

[01:02:34] because foul offense every make maybe not

[01:02:36] make dinner on time

[01:02:38] stupid there's

[01:02:40] let's really get down to the nitty gritty

[01:02:42] on this no seriously

[01:02:44] but there's so many moments in this game where it's just

[01:02:46] like okay I'm gonna wrap up this chapter

[01:02:48] now I can see where they're going okay

[01:02:50] oh no there's three hours of fluff

[01:02:52] and I don't know

[01:02:54] I don't want to read it

[01:02:56] because the map doesn't make any goddamn sense in this area

[01:02:58] either

[01:03:00] the map is awful the map is fucking awful

[01:03:02] map is terrible

[01:03:04] I didn't want to end on bad notes though with this game

[01:03:06] like maybe we can pull out

[01:03:08] is there like a scene or part of this game that you

[01:03:10] really liked when you played through it

[01:03:12] hold on hold on I have one more thing

[01:03:14] I wanted to say here

[01:03:16] I used to say

[01:03:18] I have

[01:03:22] I firmly believe that if all things were

[01:03:24] equal ff6

[01:03:26] is the better game than ff7

[01:03:28] and I used to say

[01:03:30] that ff6

[01:03:32] was more deserving of this remake

[01:03:34] treatment than seven

[01:03:36] however

[01:03:38] given how they've handled seven

[01:03:40] I hope they just never bother with remaking six

[01:03:42] or furniture

[01:03:44] I don't want to see six

[01:03:46] I don't want to see

[01:03:48] six fall victim

[01:03:50] to all these anime tropes that they wanted

[01:03:52] to just shove into seven

[01:03:54] I don't want to see six split into two games

[01:03:58] I don't want to see six

[01:04:00] all of a sudden like

[01:04:02] have a love story for Leo

[01:04:04] out of nowhere

[01:04:06] before he dies you know I don't want any of that

[01:04:10] now I think if they reduce six

[01:04:12] or five they'll do it the way they did four

[01:04:16] I would be okay with that

[01:04:18] that just takes the remaster

[01:04:20] or the DS version you're talking about

[01:04:22] no the DS remix

[01:04:24] and voice acting

[01:04:26] and stuff like that I think voice acting

[01:04:28] on six if they nailed that like they did four

[01:04:30] it'd be amazing it'd be the best entry

[01:04:32] probably in my opinion of all of them

[01:04:34] but anyway there's a lot of great

[01:04:36] story beats in six that I would love to see

[01:04:38] I would love to see

[01:04:40] an animated movie of six more than a fucking

[01:04:42] game I think is what I want

[01:04:44] although I gotta carefully wish for because we had

[01:04:46] we had advent children

[01:04:48] to play that so I don't want that kind of situation

[01:04:50] it had a good soundtrack at least

[01:04:52] it is easy to

[01:04:54] really crap on Final Fantasy 7

[01:04:56] remake like oh yeah

[01:04:58] it's the first eight to ten hours of the game

[01:05:00] turned into a 40 to 60 hour game right

[01:05:02] right yeah

[01:05:04] in all fairness

[01:05:06] Midgar is about 30%

[01:05:08] of the original Final Fantasy 7 script

[01:05:12] unfortunately it's also

[01:05:14] the least interesting

[01:05:16] part of the game

[01:05:18] so when you're like let's take

[01:05:20] the boring part

[01:05:22] and make it more of a drag

[01:05:24] that's kind of how seven remake came to me

[01:05:26] now

[01:05:28] really good way of saying that yeah

[01:05:30] but my buddy he absolutely loves it

[01:05:32] and more power to him like if you love this

[01:05:34] game yeah yeah it's

[01:05:36] not for me

[01:05:38] I think they made mistakes

[01:05:40] if you enjoyed it

[01:05:42] great uh rebirth

[01:05:44] apparently does a lot of the same

[01:05:46] but

[01:05:48] it's even longer

[01:05:50] he's like 90 hours

[01:05:52] last time he checked the clock

[01:05:54] he's at endgame

[01:05:56] at 160 hours

[01:05:58] and he's

[01:06:00] played it a lot since he last checked that clock

[01:06:02] to update me so

[01:06:04] and still has a beat

[01:06:06] there's a lot of side quests

[01:06:08] in mini games and rebirth I've heard though right

[01:06:10] Gold Saucer, there's a card mini game

[01:06:12] he actually said that they

[01:06:14] went a little too hard on the amount

[01:06:16] of mini games in rebirth

[01:06:18] okay

[01:06:20] that's fair but there's stuff that

[01:06:22] like I don't know

[01:06:24] I should calm it down

[01:06:26] I'll say this I like what they're doing

[01:06:28] with the story I've enjoyed the gameplay

[01:06:30] is remake

[01:06:32] at the top of my list for the games I want to go back

[01:06:34] and do again no

[01:06:36] but I'm excited to try rebirth

[01:06:40] for no other reason than

[01:06:42] uh

[01:06:44] watching Diamond Weapon approach Midgar

[01:06:46] like I can't even fathom how

[01:06:48] amazingly cool that thing is going to be

[01:06:50] I feel like that would be pretty neat

[01:06:52] you know I had forgotten about it because

[01:06:54] I mean there's so it's like it's like Wolf said

[01:06:56] it's so like compacted

[01:06:58] that there's so much cool

[01:07:00] that you get that happens outside

[01:07:02] of that area

[01:07:04] when you get into the I mean shit

[01:07:06] 30% of the game

[01:07:08] and then you don't hear the opening track

[01:07:10] like you don't hear the theme song for Final Fantasy 7

[01:07:12] until you leave Midgar

[01:07:14] and how about 10 hours in

[01:07:16] then I get to listen to the theme song

[01:07:18] you know it's silly but I mean that's how

[01:07:20] the game was designed it's fine

[01:07:22] but I mean to think of any of the weapons

[01:07:24] and you have to fight Ruby weapon and all that stuff

[01:07:26] like if you choose to or going underwater

[01:07:28] and all that stuff that seems

[01:07:30] like that would be cool

[01:07:32] hopefully it's in there

[01:07:34] and that's my worry is that the fates

[01:07:36] thing gives them the luxury

[01:07:38] to just wipe shit out

[01:07:40] that didn't happen

[01:07:42] you know how they're going to do it I can tell you how

[01:07:44] I bet you and I know how they're going to do it

[01:07:46] they're going to have those encounters

[01:07:48] they're going to be with fucking Charlie

[01:07:50] they give me VR missions

[01:07:52] you know pop on those goggles and you're going to fight Emeril weapon

[01:07:54] and you're going to do that battle and you're going to get some kind of Mickey Mouse summon afterwards

[01:07:56] that's how they're going to do it

[01:07:58] I don't see them building out an additional

[01:08:00] area in sequence and quest

[01:08:02] to go find the weapons and take them down

[01:08:04] I think they're just VR missions

[01:08:06] that's what I think they're going to do

[01:08:08] I would hate to imagine a fight with

[01:08:10] Genova

[01:08:12] and her being like the same size as your character

[01:08:14] or fighting God

[01:08:16] Seth Raph at the end and him being roughly

[01:08:18] the same size as your character

[01:08:20] like that bothers me

[01:08:22] so thinking like Ruby weapons here

[01:08:24] and he's you know three feet taller

[01:08:26] than cloud you're like

[01:08:28] no dude he's supposed to be horrifying

[01:08:30] exactly

[01:08:32] so I don't know I'm worried

[01:08:34] what are the summons in this game

[01:08:36] is Baalmont in this game or no

[01:08:38] Bahamut

[01:08:40] Neo Bahamut

[01:08:42] there's like three different Bahamuts in this

[01:08:44] Bahamut Zero, Neo Bahamut

[01:08:46] Bahamut was not in the remake

[01:08:48] Leviathan

[01:08:50] is like the only dragon that's in there

[01:08:52] how big is Leviathan then

[01:08:54] is he a big summoner or still small

[01:08:56] I didn't get him because I went past

[01:08:58] the level that he's on that I was supposed to

[01:09:00] find him and I went I'm not going back

[01:09:02] to look for it I don't care that much

[01:09:04] he's the fifth cat

[01:09:06] that I decided not to go look for

[01:09:08] my volume was down okay

[01:09:10] trying to play it out in the living room

[01:09:14] alright well I mean we are going

[01:09:16] we're over an hour

[01:09:18] so I'm going to ask this question

[01:09:20] we'll do part two in about three years

[01:09:22] yeah that's how we'll do it

[01:09:24] and look forward to tap B DLC

[01:09:26] on our Patreon where we really

[01:09:28] dive into what we think about Jesse

[01:09:30] I should like Jesse anyway

[01:09:32] chart I need you to get on rewriting

[01:09:34] the script for Patreon please

[01:09:36] let's see what I can do

[01:09:38] so okay so are you guys okay

[01:09:40] chart you've beaten found five seven remake

[01:09:42] are you going to buy rebirth

[01:09:46] my FOMO

[01:09:48] is telling me one thing

[01:09:50] but my wife

[01:09:52] is telling me another

[01:09:56] if I do get it

[01:09:58] I'm probably going to wait until it comes out on PC

[01:10:00] because I'd like to play it on the Steam Deck

[01:10:02] and play it on the PC it plays

[01:10:04] remake plays great on the Steam Deck

[01:10:06] at first I was kind of like I feel like this is going to be cumbersome

[01:10:08] but as I played it I was like

[01:10:10] this is such a good game

[01:10:12] to play on the PC it's really or on the

[01:10:14] Steam Deck it works really well

[01:10:16] the actions are there it plays and it looks fantastic

[01:10:18] so chances are

[01:10:20] I'll if I do

[01:10:22] end up getting it because I was going to buy it like

[01:10:24] the week of you guys talked me out of it thank you for doing that by the way

[01:10:26] but because I didn't need to do it

[01:10:28] I didn't need to spend the money I hadn't even

[01:10:30] finished the first one yet

[01:10:32] and I was just like oh it's out

[01:10:34] I'm like Jake with Dragons Dogma 2

[01:10:36] ahhhh it's got to get it

[01:10:38] I keep telling you don't buy Dragons Dogma 2

[01:10:40] well my birthday is next week so

[01:10:42] we'll see what happens but

[01:10:44] I'm probably I want to play it

[01:10:46] but then we also Jake and I

[01:10:48] also talked about maybe just watching a video of it

[01:10:50] one of my favorite

[01:10:52] YouTubers

[01:10:54] Fightin Cowboy is playing it

[01:10:56] I kind of want to hang out and see what

[01:10:58] see what that's about but I don't know

[01:11:00] I just I also want to

[01:11:02] experience it for myself

[01:11:04] so chances are I'm probably going to hold off

[01:11:06] and wait until it comes out for PC so probably

[01:11:08] in a year when it comes out next

[01:11:10] next year they make more money

[01:11:12] alright I heard it's the summer

[01:11:14] if it does then maybe you'll see me playing it

[01:11:16] on the uh... you're sicko

[01:11:18] GP you're going to of course

[01:11:20] play Rebirth sounds like

[01:11:22] you're waiting for it

[01:11:24] I will I'm very excited about it

[01:11:26] so I told myself I'm not going

[01:11:28] to allow myself to buy it until

[01:11:30] after I've beaten Final Fantasy 10

[01:11:32] with the pen and strung because

[01:11:34] I need to make that more of a priority

[01:11:36] um so that's

[01:11:38] that's my reward other than

[01:11:40] I'm hoping to do the Wheel of Death

[01:11:42] have you started that yet?

[01:11:44] have you started the pen and strung yet?

[01:11:46] I'm sorry you're cutting out I can't hear you

[01:11:48] um okay alright

[01:11:50] get a charger in

[01:11:52] piece longer

[01:11:54] I might do a charger I might wait until it comes out on PC

[01:11:56] because by then I very much would like to have a steam deck

[01:11:58] and to be able to walk around or sit on the couch

[01:12:00] and do that I think sounds like the optimal way

[01:12:02] to get that done

[01:12:04] okay

[01:12:06] Wolf how about you do you think you're ever going to go back

[01:12:08] ugh

[01:12:10] like

[01:12:12] such a labor

[01:12:14] I want to know

[01:12:16] what changed

[01:12:18] as far as the plot points go

[01:12:20] but they made it

[01:12:22] such an uncomfortable experience

[01:12:24] to do that I don't know

[01:12:26] are you guys familiar with the spoon theory?

[01:12:30] we've talked about it in the past but I'm

[01:12:32] like social spoons where

[01:12:34] you know you only have so many

[01:12:36] spoons for a day

[01:12:38] to work your way through social experiences

[01:12:40] and deal with the world and all that

[01:12:42] and so you know something might

[01:12:44] eat up let's say you've got 10 spoons

[01:12:46] for the day work might eat up

[01:12:48] 7

[01:12:50] but you know let's say

[01:12:52] for lunch you went to work with a co-worker that might

[01:12:54] have eaten up too you get home you got one spoon left

[01:12:56] right or

[01:12:58] you know maybe whatever you've done throughout the day

[01:13:00] used up all your spoons I've never played

[01:13:02] a game

[01:13:04] that consumed my spoons

[01:13:08] you are my favorite person

[01:13:10] like it feels

[01:13:12] socially draining to play this game

[01:13:16] and somehow

[01:13:18] more so than animal

[01:13:20] crossing

[01:13:22] wow

[01:13:24] thank you for waiting until we are an hour 15

[01:13:26] into the episode because if you had said that at the opener

[01:13:28] there would have been no episode left

[01:13:30] after that

[01:13:32] very well stated

[01:13:34] Tom Nook is texting me right now

[01:13:36] saying I owe him 50,000 bells for your slander

[01:13:38] wolf because

[01:13:40] animal crossing is the thing

[01:13:42] animal crossing is the worst HOA I've ever seen

[01:13:46] I don't know man

[01:13:48] I'm going to look up the spoon thing because I like that

[01:13:50] I'm with you though

[01:13:52] even from my experience I told you Char

[01:13:54] my biggest worry is

[01:13:56] after we do this episode if I have not beaten the game

[01:13:58] by this episode I worry

[01:14:00] that I wouldn't finish it although I think I'm going to now

[01:14:02] there is

[01:14:04] I gotta add something I'm sorry to interrupt you Jake

[01:14:06] this came to my thought

[01:14:08] about this fucking game

[01:14:10] which makes me more angry now that I think about it

[01:14:12] there's a section in

[01:14:14] I'm trying to end it on a happy note and your mother fucking

[01:14:16] you're gonna slam it more

[01:14:18] you're gonna drag us down again

[01:14:20] I'm trying to save the diver

[01:14:22] so there's a section in Shinra tower

[01:14:24] where

[01:14:26] you know you get the choice of

[01:14:28] when balls to the wall you're gonna sneak around

[01:14:30] and obviously cloud says we're gonna sneak around the back

[01:14:32] so sneak around the back

[01:14:34] there's a section where you can go

[01:14:36] you gotta go from the first floor

[01:14:38] to the 56th floor

[01:14:40] 59th floor

[01:14:42] and you can walk

[01:14:44] the stairs

[01:14:46] all 59 floors

[01:14:48] who did that? me

[01:14:50] me why

[01:14:52] why is that there there should be cutscene that

[01:14:54] gets you up there I literally

[01:14:56] walked all the way up going

[01:14:58] there's gotta be a cutscene they're not gonna make me

[01:15:00] walk all 59 stairs

[01:15:02] they did in the PS1 version

[01:15:04] that's true that's what I want if they didn't have

[01:15:06] those 50 fucking flights of stairs

[01:15:08] I would have uninstalled immediately

[01:15:10] there are 59 goddamn flights

[01:15:12] to get up Shinra

[01:15:14] and the dialogue and character development during those 59

[01:15:16] you get really tired and it slows down

[01:15:18] really fast

[01:15:20] oh fuck

[01:15:22] you know the scene where you have to like

[01:15:24] what? fuck I don't want to end

[01:15:26] the scene where you have to pull the switches and time together

[01:15:28] I actually did that in the first try

[01:15:30] so I don't know why you couldn't get it

[01:15:32] I fucking do 12 times

[01:15:34] and like every time you fucked up

[01:15:36] Barrett's like making fun of you

[01:15:38] and he's like singing songs

[01:15:40] and rousing you

[01:15:42] 12 fucking times and the dialogues end up repeating

[01:15:44] and I'm like my eyes losing my mind

[01:15:46] I know you kept him being me

[01:15:48] that it was happening I got there

[01:15:50] and I ripped through it in the first try

[01:15:52] and I had even the extra shit

[01:15:54] I don't know what it is

[01:15:56] do you want to know how to do this again with a tutorial

[01:15:58] like no motherfucker I know what the instructions are

[01:16:00] but at the timing window it was so narrow

[01:16:02] I couldn't do it in any way

[01:16:04] I muted it so I didn't have to listen to Barrett

[01:16:06] I still did it

[01:16:08] insults

[01:16:10] anyway

[01:16:12] I do want to finish the game because

[01:16:14] I took a look at what the final boss

[01:16:16] would be because I'm like how the hell

[01:16:18] they're going to end it with the final boss that's compelling

[01:16:20] and I stopped when I saw that

[01:16:22] it was like three or four phase boss fight

[01:16:24] and I'm like okay they've got something

[01:16:26] that's different than the original to end it off

[01:16:28] on a good note

[01:16:30] which is awesome and so I want to see

[01:16:32] that and I don't want to see this stuff with Zach

[01:16:34] and how they're like

[01:16:36] justifying why it's different

[01:16:38] so that part's interesting to me

[01:16:40] I would like to play through that

[01:16:42] and I think I'm at the end of the game where it's just

[01:16:44] one last fucking quest hub and I can move past it

[01:16:46] I think I'll finish it

[01:16:48] Rebirth?

[01:16:50] The storytelling is good

[01:16:52] I don't want to buy a game

[01:16:54] I'm not going to like

[01:16:56] and I don't think I like Final Fantasy Remake

[01:16:58] and I don't think I'll like Rebirth

[01:17:00] but I still think I might end up buying it

[01:17:02] I've got a sickness

[01:17:04] You told me I'm a sick man

[01:17:06] and then you're just going off and saying

[01:17:08] I'm probably going to buy it too

[01:17:10] I bought fucking Dragon Dogma 2

[01:17:12] I never played the first one

[01:17:14] I'm never going to play the first one

[01:17:16] I've played it all the time

[01:17:18] The story makes no sense

[01:17:20] You kind of just walk around

[01:17:22] It's like Skyrim but bad

[01:17:24] But I like it

[01:17:26] but all the best items in the store for some reason

[01:17:28] so there's no reason to explore and do shit

[01:17:30] and it's the same 5 enemies you fight all over

[01:17:32] but I like it

[01:17:34] it might be Game of the Year

[01:17:36] Are we still talking about Final Fantasy 7 Remake?

[01:17:38] No

[01:17:40] Cause it sounds like we're still talking about Final Fantasy 7 Remake

[01:17:42] I'm not

[01:17:44] Razzden

[01:17:46] Yeah, I don't know

[01:17:48] I'm probably going to buy Rebirth

[01:17:50] I might wait for a sale

[01:17:52] I might try and hold off until the end of the year

[01:17:54] I think it will go on Steam Cell by the end of the year

[01:17:56] I'm hoping it will

[01:17:58] I think what's going to happen for Square

[01:18:00] is they're going to realize the release in the second game of the trilogy

[01:18:02] Nobody likes watching the second game of the trilogy

[01:18:04] They always want to wait for the third one to come out

[01:18:06] and do the whole thing

[01:18:08] Empire?

[01:18:10] Did the Empire came out? Did they tell you that's the second movie of the trilogy?

[01:18:12] Or did they say this is the sequel to the most exciting movie of the decade?

[01:18:14] They didn't tell you that was a middle of the trilogy

[01:18:16] They don't do that

[01:18:18] Yeah

[01:18:20] We're releasing the lull

[01:18:22] Enjoy

[01:18:24] Yeah, this is called The Trough

[01:18:26] Yeah, George Lucas is the spinest

[01:18:28] or at least the middle of his spinest

[01:18:30] and then come back in a few years for the conclusion

[01:18:32] Nobody likes the middle episode

[01:18:34] and I think this is going to sell terribly

[01:18:36] I hope

[01:18:38] Square finishes this on a high note

[01:18:40] which is weird to say

[01:18:42] and whatever they call the third game is good

[01:18:44] and I hope the whole package is good

[01:18:46] but I do feel like this is something

[01:18:48] I should have waited entirely for the

[01:18:50] Grand Master Edition 10 years from now

[01:18:52] and to play that

[01:18:54] but then it would be like 400 hours long

[01:18:56] and I don't have time for that

[01:18:58] That one will be called Final Fantasy 7

[01:19:00] Reduced

[01:19:02] Double Deuce

[01:19:04] Double Deuce

[01:19:06] You Inc

[01:19:08] Filtered it down, yeah

[01:19:10] It'll be everything we're bitching about them not doing

[01:19:12] Wow

[01:19:14] If we're still around in 10 years

[01:19:16] We'll do the follow up

[01:19:18] Then you get to go to the outside world

[01:19:20] You know

[01:19:22] Can you imagine us doing an episode

[01:19:24] Fall Up for Final Fantasy, whatever the third one is

[01:19:26] That'll be fucking funny

[01:19:28] Probably will

[01:19:30] Hopefully we're still friends and hanging out

[01:19:32] I see

[01:19:34] It's like some real pains we got between now and then

[01:19:36] Okay

[01:19:38] We should wrap it up

[01:19:40] Is there anything you guys want to shout out?

[01:19:42] People are really busy, nobody's been streaming or making stuff

[01:19:44] but if there's something you want to shout out

[01:19:46] Um

[01:19:48] I don't think I have anything important

[01:19:50] I'll be back to streaming in May

[01:19:52] That's where I'm at

[01:19:54] I'm loving Forbidden West

[01:19:56] and I really want to get back to it

[01:19:58] So once the cage is torn down

[01:20:00] I'll be back in my office again

[01:20:02] I'll throw a shout out to

[01:20:04] Sinistar who recently

[01:20:06] re-devoted himself

[01:20:08] to promising everyone that he will be streaming

[01:20:10] at least four times a week

[01:20:12] So I look forward to Sinistar

[01:20:14] very quickly

[01:20:16] becoming the most popular thing

[01:20:18] on Twitch

[01:20:20] He will be streaming again soon

[01:20:22] He just put it off because he was trying to finish up

[01:20:24] Witcher 3

[01:20:26] He just finished it this week

[01:20:28] Soon

[01:20:30] That's two of us

[01:20:32] That's two of us

[01:20:34] That's two of you, yeah

[01:20:36] Me and Sinistar over two years

[01:20:38] Street Fighter 6 is a poor choice

[01:20:40] Maybe I'll take a visual novel instead

[01:20:42] Dragon's Dogma 2 is going to be game of the year

[01:20:44] And his

[01:20:46] Sisyphean game

[01:20:48] Well guys

[01:20:50] I had a lot of fun playing my

[01:20:52] Sisyphean game

[01:20:54] Dragon Dogma 2

[01:20:56] I hate this game, it sucks

[01:20:58] Gator of the Year 2.24

[01:21:00] I hate it but I love it

[01:21:02] I feel like wasn't that a Seinfeld episode

[01:21:04] Probably

[01:21:06] I hate this person so much but I'm going to marry him

[01:21:08] Yeah, that's my life with games

[01:21:10] You're good standing

[01:21:12] He is good standing

[01:21:14] Like

[01:21:16] I got an antelug pocket

[01:21:18] People warned me not to buy it

[01:21:20] So I'll be quick, I bought an antelug pocket

[01:21:22] Which is a handheld fucking game boy

[01:21:24] I got a couple games for it

[01:21:26] I got Mario Land, Tetris of fucking of course

[01:21:28] Donkey Kong, games I love

[01:21:30] And then there's this

[01:21:32] Retro Game Treasure Box

[01:21:34] It's one of those retro games of the month things you can get

[01:21:36] And they send you a fucking box for 40 bucks

[01:21:38] Yeah I like that except you can't eat these

[01:21:40] Anyway, you're going to get a random retro game

[01:21:42] And you can pick what console

[01:21:44] So I picked all the ones that were run on this handheld

[01:21:46] So all the Game Boy games, right

[01:21:48] I know

[01:21:50] For 40 bucks

[01:21:52] Everything good

[01:21:54] I know I'm not going to see Mario

[01:21:56] I'm not going to see fucking Sonic or Castlevania

[01:21:58] I know I'm going to get shitty sports games

[01:22:00] Or Batman or something

[01:22:02] Or TMT game, I'm going to get these trash Game Boy games

[01:22:04] I know it

[01:22:06] I still paid for it

[01:22:08] Because part of me is like

[01:22:10] I just want that experience of grandma buying you

[01:22:12] That shitty old game for Christmas

[01:22:14] And that's what I'm going to get

[01:22:16] So maybe I'll make a video opening that box

[01:22:18] I get one in a week

[01:22:20] I want it now

[01:22:24] Or uh, yeah Michael Jordan's baseball

[01:22:28] All the classics

[01:22:30] All the classics

[01:22:32] Oh Jackson triple track

[01:22:34] Well, Wolf is anything you want to shout out?

[01:22:36] Uh no, not at the moment

[01:22:38] I've just been

[01:22:40] I've been playing Moonlighter

[01:22:42] And I'm about to finish that one up finally

[01:22:46] I heard that was pretty good too

[01:22:48] It's where you

[01:22:52] Chris through dungeons that are randomly generated

[01:22:54] Find loot, take it back to your shop

[01:22:56] And sell it to the townsfolk so that you can afford better weapons

[01:22:58] To go back into the dungeon and do it again

[01:23:00] So an RPG

[01:23:02] You just described all the things Charth hates about

[01:23:04] Seven Remake

[01:23:08] Helping townspeople

[01:23:10] The thing about Moonlighter is

[01:23:12] I don't have to interact with NPCs

[01:23:14] And get to know them

[01:23:16] I don't have to care about them

[01:23:18] All I gotta do is keep them from stealing my shit

[01:23:20] And make sure I man the register

[01:23:22] When they want to buy something

[01:23:24] Keep your spoons

[01:23:26] Use your spoons as you see fit

[01:23:28] And go watch Fallout

[01:23:30] When you're done with this episode, go watch the new Fallout show

[01:23:32] Go watch Fallout, go watch X-Men 97

[01:23:34] I think at some point we're gonna try and do an episode

[01:23:36] Related to that or maybe just we'll do an episode on what we're watching

[01:23:38] Cause there's been a lot of great stuff

[01:23:40] That's on TV lately

[01:23:42] And I never watched TV

[01:23:44] Alright so you know what

[01:23:46] Keep your spoons

[01:23:48] In reserve, save some of them for us

[01:23:50] We'll see you guys next week

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