Press B 200: Kiryu-chan! Yakuza 0

[00:00:00] Get EWCHAN, today on!

[00:00:10] Hello and welcome to another episode of Press B To Cancel, today it is just Jake and

[00:00:34] myself how you doing today sir.

[00:00:37] I'm doing great for this fake Friday.

[00:00:39] How you doing?

[00:00:40] Yes we are, this is one of our bank episodes so it could show up in two weeks but two months

[00:00:46] we don't know.

[00:00:47] But today we're talking about Yakuza specifically Yakuza 0 and I know this is a franchise

[00:00:56] that's like if you don't count the spin-offs I think it's nine games deep now.

[00:01:04] Yes because you have 0 to 6 and then we have 7 and 8 ages came out.

[00:01:11] Yeah, although is it a spin the one with Kuru like a dragon man who hit his face or fate

[00:01:19] or something?

[00:01:20] Oh the man who erased his name.

[00:01:21] Yes, does that count as main line or is that still spin-off?

[00:01:24] Because that's all Kuru.

[00:01:25] I would think that's a spin-off because Kuru is no longer the main line Yakuza character

[00:01:31] or like a dragon character.

[00:01:34] He's still part of that franchise I found out later though so he's definitely key but

[00:01:39] yeah you're right because there's also all this spin-offs like there's like a zombie

[00:01:41] one I believe there's an ancient Japan one or two.

[00:01:45] This is a franchise that quite a bit of upside stories but yeah.

[00:01:49] Yeah I forgot about the zombie apocalypse games.

[00:01:53] Yeah.

[00:01:54] I don't think those ever came to the West though did they?

[00:01:59] Not the zombie one I'm wondering if there's a fan translation because we just got one

[00:02:04] of the Japanese the ancient Japan ones recently and I'm like do I want to play yet more

[00:02:08] Yakuza?

[00:02:09] Plus there's also judgment which is not even Yakuza it's a detective or police side of

[00:02:15] the story in the same cities.

[00:02:17] Yeah, judgment.

[00:02:18] I do have those.

[00:02:19] Do you?

[00:02:20] Okay.

[00:02:21] I heard good things about that one.

[00:02:22] Oh no no no.

[00:02:23] So Yakuza Dead Souls.

[00:02:24] I know we're already off on so many tangents.

[00:02:27] Yakuza Dead Souls did come out in North America in 2012 for the PS3.

[00:02:31] Now I know I have to look for that.

[00:02:33] Oh okay so it was a PS3 one interesting okay yeah it's such a huge expansive franchise

[00:02:39] it's a ridiculously large franchise but I mean I saw it on Gog for like 30 bucks on sale

[00:02:44] it's been on sale I think on Steam as well in the bundle but how can you say no to like

[00:02:48] the entire franchise for 30 bucks?

[00:02:51] It's hard to say.

[00:02:52] Yeah.

[00:02:53] And I've been wanting to play it ever since I saw you stream it on Twitch years ago so

[00:02:56] I'm like all right I'm going to start and I'm going to play it.

[00:02:59] And I'm like which game do I start with?

[00:03:01] Do I start with the original first game?

[00:03:03] Like one do I play the remaster or the remake or do I go like with what is the start

[00:03:08] of the story which is zero so eventually I settled with zero.

[00:03:11] Yeah, that's where I started too.

[00:03:15] I remember when the original one came out on the PS1 just Yakuza.

[00:03:22] At the time I think magazines were calling it kind of like GTA and stuff like that

[00:03:27] and I was kind of like eh I had kind of had my fill of GTA.

[00:03:31] I think Vice City was the only one I ever really got into and even then it was kind of

[00:03:37] eh that one the 80s nostalgia.

[00:03:39] 80s nostalgia yeah I mean this feels less like GTA.

[00:03:44] It does calling it like GTA does the game no justice because it's nothing like GTA.

[00:03:50] Yeah, like when you say like GTA like like I'm thinking like you know Saints row or you

[00:03:57] know sleeping dogs.

[00:03:58] Sleeping dogs is definitely a GTA like because there's beautiful combat and there's

[00:04:01] and all that kind of thing but Yakuza feels like more like if anything it feels like

[00:04:05] success successor to Shenmue.

[00:04:07] That's what it feels like for me.

[00:04:08] Yeah had had any of the magazines back in the day been like it's it feels like a spiritual

[00:04:13] successor to Shenmue.

[00:04:14] I would have been off for it because I loved Shenmue.

[00:04:17] I feel like it does what Shenmue wanted to do but better.

[00:04:20] Yeah because like everything with this like a vast huge open city right Shenmue tried

[00:04:26] that the various mini games at which there's so many games in this franchise that Shenmue

[00:04:30] had that plus a great story.

[00:04:33] Was there anybody on this team that was related to the Shenmue team actually because

[00:04:36] they're both Sega right?

[00:04:37] Ah man, I want yeah they are so it must have been right because it feels like a very similar

[00:04:44] combat style even still up through like yeah.

[00:04:49] Yakuza 0 which came out just before Yakuza 6 so you know you're that's the seventh the

[00:04:56] sixth game they released in the franchise and that was after they had remade the first

[00:05:01] two each so yeah there were so many games deep in this and it still feels like Shenmue's

[00:05:08] combat so it there must have been some overlap in the development team there to some

[00:05:15] major degree.

[00:05:16] Okay so you Suzuki and Toshiro Negoshi have a significant history in the gaming industry

[00:05:22] you Suzuki known as the creative Shenmue and Toshiro Negoshi the mine behind the Yakuza

[00:05:27] series both of ties to Sega and have collaborate on certain projects.

[00:05:33] Negoshi started a supervisor during the development of Shenmue and that's why he's

[00:05:37] in the credits of Shenmue so there's a little bit of a crossover but I don't think

[00:05:42] there's anything else more formal.

[00:05:45] It definitely seems like there's some sort of connection maybe there was just like the

[00:05:49] higher ups of Sega were like we want a game that's kind of like Shenmue because they

[00:05:54] were all in on Shenmue who was supposed to be four games long yeah and we got two of

[00:06:01] them before the franchise kind of got canned and then 20 some odd years later the 30 what

[00:06:06] the third one came out and it yeah well when the third one was coming out I'm like you

[00:06:13] know maybe I go back and play those games because I had the original Shenmue and Dreamcast

[00:06:16] and I liked it quite a bit but then the ending was so anti climatic and I was so upset with

[00:06:21] that.

[00:06:22] I refused to touch the second one when I had access to it and when I look at Yakuza

[00:06:28] and I play Yakuza zero it's like Shenmue but fun.

[00:06:31] That's why I hate to say it but that's that's what Yakuza feels more fun than Shenmue.

[00:06:36] It's because I think part of that is because even though Kite who doesn't talk too much what

[00:06:43] he does say has meaning it's you know it's kind of like silent Bob to that end he's like

[00:06:48] he doesn't say a lot but when he says something there's purpose behind it most of the time

[00:06:53] unless there's this you know it's one of the silliness quests.

[00:06:56] The side quest yeah.

[00:06:57] You know he's to quote family guy he's that badass with a heart of gold.

[00:07:02] Yeah that's 100% what the character is.

[00:07:05] And he's constantly thrown into these circumstances.

[00:07:09] I'm sorry to spoil but it's basically every game where he's framed for something right.

[00:07:15] Yeah and I mean it's not every game but it's pretty constant throughout the series that's

[00:07:20] sort of the archetype of the franchise is kiddo gets framed for something even though

[00:07:25] he's a criminal he didn't do this crime so you have to prove his innocence or something

[00:07:32] right?

[00:07:33] That's the weird thing with this because yeah he is a criminal he's a mafia member I mean

[00:07:37] these are not good people.

[00:07:39] These are people that exploit and injure and hurt.

[00:07:41] I mean there's not much in the way of murder in these games because it's you know Japanese

[00:07:46] javis side is not as thankfully he's not as bad with him comes a murder as it's over

[00:07:51] here in North America but he's definitely still a criminal still doing awful bad terrible

[00:07:55] things from prostitution and worse but they make you feel bad for the character because

[00:08:02] of what happens to him in this game like he gets framed for murder of somebody so critically

[00:08:07] important to it basically a father figure and you feel bad for them they make you feel guilty

[00:08:12] which is very strange to feel bad about a mafia member.

[00:08:16] Yeah but I mean they repeatedly show that he it's weird because he's willing to tow

[00:08:24] the line to break the law but there are certain things he won't do right and I think it's

[00:08:31] weird because he's you know he's a mobster with morals which is so odd but yeah I mean

[00:08:38] they definitely play off the mystique of Yakuza right because the Yakuza movies right in

[00:08:42] Japan especially kind of play on this honor amongst thieves type of mentality where yes

[00:08:47] they're mafia yes they extort people but there's a code of what they do as an organization

[00:08:52] like the protection money racket has very codified number of rules right and they kind

[00:08:57] of play into that they romanticize it a heck of a lot which for I guess maybe North America feels

[00:09:02] weird. Yeah to a degree but I mean we also have all sorts of mob movies mafia movies where you know

[00:09:11] depending on the movie you might feel for some of the characters in it even though they're awful

[00:09:16] people like I love the movie Goodfellas and Ray Leotus character yeah he's a pretty bad dude

[00:09:22] but he's not as bad as some of them so you kind of feel for him and yeah it's it's that same sort

[00:09:27] of thing it's just I feel like Yakuza is a little bit more covert about how they do it

[00:09:37] whereas the mob was just like yeah we're all we're all trash men yeah I know I'm like very

[00:09:44] painting broad strokes here but you get my point but that's what it is right it's I guess that's

[00:09:48] the same with like sopranos or Oz from back in the day yeah you feel bad even though they're bad

[00:09:53] people are bad characters you still feel bad for them they do go job of trying to tie into the

[00:09:57] humanity of that's in everybody and they definitely do that here especially with because this game is

[00:10:03] notable not just because it's Kiro's story but it's also the origin of my recurring character

[00:10:08] in the franchise Majima so I you're actually explain this one to me because I know of Majima

[00:10:13] mostly from the memes and his laugh like and I know him as the bad guy in

[00:10:18] later games I've only played zero zero's in when I played I just started Kwame one so but I heard

[00:10:23] that Majima is the one of the bad guys later on but this is a game where they give you his origin

[00:10:28] story and you I really like this character and I don't feel like he's a bad guy so calling

[00:10:35] Majima a bad guy is also painting him incorrectly he is the closest thing the kid you has to arrive

[00:10:44] all right and so it's not necessarily he's a villain he's just often at odds with Kiro for

[00:10:51] various reasons and you know sometimes it's a completely understandable justify our whole reason

[00:10:58] sometimes it's just because he wants to be contradictory to Kiro like he just has to be

[00:11:09] a rival has to stir shit up yeah okay I mean that into the in that same vein he's also

[00:11:16] despite you know after Yakuza zero he's kind of a madman right he's he's called the mad dog

[00:11:23] Majima and you know he's kind of a wild card you don't know what he's gonna do but when

[00:11:27] Bush comes to shove he does step up in some of the installments to help Kiro even though

[00:11:34] Kiro kind of thinks that he might not he still takes a chance on him and Majima's like all right but

[00:11:40] you owe me you know because even Majima and I feel like that's part of what Yakuza zero's point was

[00:11:47] was to paint Majima in a way to where you understand why he's willing to step up and be

[00:11:52] honorable despite being kind of a you know a nut job he's totally psycho yeah especially for

[00:11:58] toward the end of the game when you get like the end of the game spoilers but that's what this is

[00:12:02] if you have not played zero go play it but by the end of it when he gets the haircut he gets to

[00:12:06] the sink to jacket you're like okay that's that's the character I've seen in screenshots from

[00:12:10] later in the series but yeah but when you start Yakuza zero it's it's is a history first or

[00:12:16] is it Kiro Kiro I'm gonna say his name wrong the entire episode I think it was not

[00:12:22] no it is Kiro you first because it opens up with Kiro in oh my goodness I can't remember the name

[00:12:32] of the cities come out Kamoracho Kamoracho yes thank you yeah I'm gonna say these all wrong so badly

[00:12:40] yeah so it opens up in Kamoracho with Kiro being approached by his boss about something I think is

[00:12:46] what it was and you do a little bit of running around and you only get like a little while maybe

[00:12:50] 20 30 minutes as kiddie you before it drops you over on magima in I know it's supposed to be a

[00:12:56] saga but I can't think of what that one's called uh Oton oton is it otonbury no

[00:13:04] that sounds right but there's two it's two basically two cities only and you get like a

[00:13:10] snapshot of each city so yeah so I guess to go back to the starting and the origin of the game

[00:13:14] and what the basic plot of this game is it opens up with basically Kiro basically do you

[00:13:18] gonna shake down if somebody owes money to the yak is a or actually it's not even yak is a he owes

[00:13:22] money to a like a like a broker a booker or what do you call them people a bookie or something

[00:13:28] like that like a money collector a bookie so that's and he's basically he hires the yak is a

[00:13:33] to you know go rough this guy up and get the money back in which Kiro does and gives the money

[00:13:38] turns out a job offer to work for the book he's like no man I'm yak is through and through

[00:13:42] I want this life you know I'm kind of my own thing and then shortly after you find out that the

[00:13:47] person he roughed up in that back galley on that specific back galley was later murdered and

[00:13:54] they're blaming him for it and murder again in Japan especially in the eighties murder is a

[00:13:59] lively rare it's almost impossible to get a gun back then even today it's very restrictive

[00:14:03] to get a gun in Japan they have very tight gun laws and murders almost unheard of even if they're

[00:14:08] despicable they're criminals they're terrible people you're likely to get hit with the baseball

[00:14:12] bat then you are shot with a gun in Japan and that's that's something that's not too concommon like

[00:14:16] I think UK is similar so he gets framed for murder so your his side of the story is him dealing

[00:14:23] with this basically you know his relationship with his yak is a house how do they call it

[00:14:31] clan family clan or family yeah so his side of it and then it flips over to Majima and you're

[00:14:37] like in a full tuxedo Majima's in a full tuxedo working at what is a cabaret club I guess yeah

[00:14:43] yeah and then you fast learn that he's not there by choice he's there because he's trying to make

[00:14:50] up for his basically a punishment for mistakes that he made in his past but it's great that

[00:14:54] they that's the origin of a story like you know of him as a psycho in later games but when you play

[00:14:59] zero the prequel he's dressed up in a suit and tie he's very reputable he handles like a issues

[00:15:05] with a customer like flawless customer service it's like almost as if customer service is a weapon

[00:15:11] for him and it's it's such an interesting scene yeah he's sort of malicious compliance

[00:15:18] but yeah exactly that's exactly what it is but yeah so you you

[00:15:25] in most of the games I think Kittio goes back and forth between oh my gosh Kamurocho and

[00:15:31] Sotembori but yeah I looked it up and then in this one instead Kittio is the entire time in Kamurocho

[00:15:41] and Majima is the entire time in Sotembori and so they split it up between the characters and

[00:15:49] they they throw some interesting little game mechanics at you like that where you are sort of like

[00:15:53] investors in each other but you don't know each other because of this third party guy that they're

[00:15:58] both working through and I thought that was interesting and the mini games in this real estate

[00:16:05] game that you're talking about yeah like it was the real estate game and also was it only no because

[00:16:11] you could send money both ways depending on how you did it I did I did a little bit of real estate

[00:16:18] game for Kiro but I didn't do much of the mini games from Majima I did a little bit of the cabaret

[00:16:22] club mini game but I wasn't sure I tied together with the two to two cities that's interesting I

[00:16:27] think you could do real estate agent deals in both though I guess I mean it's been a few years

[00:16:33] since I played I unfortunately didn't do any brushing up for this episode I'm going purely on

[00:16:37] memory from like three years ago so but I loved this game I played the crap out of it like I was

[00:16:44] streaming this because I was actively streaming on Twitch at the time and after the stream would end

[00:16:49] I would go around and do the little stuff like for the business the cabaret the real estate all

[00:16:55] that crap get that done so that way I'd have more access to more money so that the next stream

[00:17:01] I'd be able to purchase more upgrades and things like that and speed up the process of

[00:17:06] playing the game rather than doing all the side crap on stream actually it's funny to mention

[00:17:12] that because one of the first mini games you come across in the game and it's within like the first

[00:17:16] I feel like the first hour and a half or two hours is the slot car racing with Kiroob

[00:17:21] like you walk into this place and there's a very grown up adult guy surrounded by kids

[00:17:26] and they have a slot car racetrack their system and it's deeper than you would think as you all

[00:17:31] you can do all you can do when you either the slot racing as you have a car and you put on the track

[00:17:36] and it kind of goes on its own like it does but you have the opportunity to do one boost the entire

[00:17:40] damn time and I think if you're going to run a corn and you might fall off you can button press to

[00:17:44] stay on the track very limited controls but you can customize your car with parts you find in

[00:17:50] there or in stores or drops from from various places like it's it's hilariously deep how much you

[00:17:56] can customize your car do you have to be able to build for each track because some tracks are like

[00:18:01] off-roading some are like you know a lot of jumps and loops I don't know when it's just pure speed

[00:18:05] and you have to customize your car literally it forces you for each of those tracks to win

[00:18:09] I spent a good few hours playing through that and finishing it off like that was pretty

[00:18:13] engrossing and that was in the first four or five hours of the gameplay it was nuts

[00:18:18] yeah I would every chance I got to push through that quest line and upgrade those that mini-game stuff

[00:18:25] I would go for it because it was it was interesting they sort of attach you to a bunch of characters

[00:18:31] through the the quest the side quests and mini games in Yakuza 0 that if you've played through

[00:18:38] the franchise up through this point and now you've gone back and played Yakuza 0 as a prequel

[00:18:43] there's so many nods to future games between who ends up being a villain or later game and he's

[00:18:49] just a bully in this one or you know stuff like that there's major players from throughout the

[00:18:55] franchise in Yakuza 0 and you get to see them like 10 20 years before their appearance in the games

[00:19:03] as what they are then and it's it's a cool throwback but for me it was the other way I played through

[00:19:10] Yakuza 0 and then as I started playing through the others I was like I remember that guy from 0

[00:19:16] I was gonna say because yeah our perspective is different because I haven't played the other

[00:19:19] games really so for me to see this this is my introduction to these characters so kind of kind

[00:19:24] of color things differently I almost wonder if I should have played Kwame 1 and 2 first then

[00:19:29] I'm back to 0 but I think I'm fine with 0 at least the at least it got some backstory and history

[00:19:33] of the characters but it's such an interesting tie like it's it's such a franchise like you're

[00:19:40] talking hundreds of hours in this franchise it's not short it's funny because like I wanted to play

[00:19:45] this so that there isn't there's a new the 7 and 8 are out and they don't start to start Kuru

[00:19:51] and they're actually different types of games they're actually more with JRPG versus this one being

[00:19:54] more of a brawler and like I heard well you don't need to play Yakuza 1 through 6 or 0 through 6

[00:20:01] you can just you can just start with 7 because the different genre different characters but I'm

[00:20:04] like no you know what I'm gonna stop I want the full history I want to play it from the very

[00:20:09] beginning I'm gonna be that guy and I'm gonna start from maybe 0 and we'll we'll see how far I get

[00:20:14] because I really want to play 7 but 0 was good yeah that was my intent I think I'm I don't

[00:20:21] remember if I finished 3 I think I did I think I finished 3 and then I meant to start 4

[00:20:27] right yeah so like I went through 0 0 also was I think it's what the longer entries in the franchise

[00:20:34] it's up there it's not as long as 5 was but I think it's still like pushing 35 40 hours I want to say

[00:20:40] 38 hours is what it took me to put so many hours into that game it's stupid doing all the

[00:20:46] the side quests and I didn't even do all the side quests I just did a bunch of them like

[00:20:51] whenever I came across one that seemed interesting I was like yeah let's do it you know when

[00:20:55] Majama comes across the cult absolutely let's go kick some cult as you know

[00:21:01] was that what Majama it was it was it was it's not a one oh shoot okay all right I missed

[00:21:09] that one then because like there is exhaustive on a side quest and they are good like when we say

[00:21:13] side quests I was I was joking about Shenmue earlier how it's boring and I found Shenmue boring

[00:21:18] because the multiple steps to a a story or quest in Shenmue and it's usually involves waiting

[00:21:25] waiting at the clock playing hang on waiting on the clock petting the cat waiting the clock

[00:21:29] yeah only to be told to come back the next day like that part we used to be really frustrating

[00:21:33] whereas in yeah because uh like you there's most side quest I think the most longest side quest

[00:21:39] is like three steps that I came across they're very short and they're very much a joke or like a

[00:21:44] you know to route to lighten up the atmosphere because the main story in this with the murder and

[00:21:48] the framing and Majama's origin is pretty dark yeah but when you have the side quest of like

[00:21:54] it's like a band a guy's a band leader for like a 1940s 50s greaser style band and he's

[00:22:00] supposed to look tough and he's not is it's a fraud in your house post to coach him on how be

[00:22:05] tough because you're a gangster like stuff like that that tone has always been really funny and

[00:22:09] there's a lot of those and they're all kind of like that funny tone it's interesting yeah there's

[00:22:14] there's the quests where they play matchmaker with people or you know there was the guy who got a

[00:22:22] cell phone right it's one of the first cell phones on the market and he's making this huge deal

[00:22:27] about it he's like you want to make a focal with my cell phone we'll do this for me first and I

[00:22:31] even remember what the result of it was why I was trying to make the focal but I was like it's

[00:22:37] funny it's so absurd that I was drawn in yeah it's absurd it's funny because in this game I don't

[00:22:44] know how it is in the other games your part you have to tell me but in this game to save you need

[00:22:48] to use the phone and it takes place in the 80s there is no cell phone so in order to save the

[00:22:53] game you actually have to go to a phone booth every single time yeah which can be frustrating if

[00:22:57] I remember the end of that quest there's several steps of it by the end of it I think you can just

[00:23:02] basically go to him at that location and save on his cell phone whenever you want so it unlocks a

[00:23:06] save point I think but it's not like you get to carry around with you it's but it's funny that

[00:23:10] that says like a brief brief case of a cell phone because the 80s right and it's such a funny thing

[00:23:16] but could you save anywhere in the other games uh I think possibly I feel like I didn't have

[00:23:26] to run around and hunt for save points in later games if that's the case that's how an hilarious

[00:23:32] commitment to a bit in that you can't save without a phone and you have to use a cell a pay phone

[00:23:37] up to save the game is funny yeah that's pretty wild yeah because that's where you also stored your

[00:23:43] you had an inventory box there as well you can store items there although I didn't really have much

[00:23:46] of it issue with inventory management in this game but yeah and in later games your inventory stuff

[00:23:52] is all in your phone so in the first game you've got a flip phone and it opens up and you yeah

[00:23:58] you like have your contacts in there you have your inventory in there all that it's all handled through

[00:24:03] your phone so the fact that they put it all in the stupid pay phone booths

[00:24:13] let's get I mean it's it's funny if you haven't played them before if you've played them

[00:24:17] before it's funny because like oh man I'm in the 80s now I'm limited to the technology that was

[00:24:22] in the 80s to make to match the mechanics they built throughout the franchise right so in that sense

[00:24:31] it's funny so with zero being my first game in the franchise I didn't think anything of it I was

[00:24:35] like that's kind of inconvenient to have to run off to a phone booth to handle these things but whatever

[00:24:40] then in the later games it was like yeah just open your phone just save where you want

[00:24:46] yeah especially when you consider this game came out years after the franchise originated

[00:24:50] because it's just wild because this was a PS2 I think the first game came out originally on PS2

[00:24:56] yeah the first it's been going for years two were on PS2 3 4 and 5 were on PS3 and then Kewami Kewami 2 0

[00:25:07] and 6 are PS4 era right okay but I mean one of the inconveniences with the cell the pay phone thing

[00:25:18] was we can maybe go segue into it is there's a character named mr. shakedown

[00:25:24] and there's one in each city he's different he's different than and there's one in each district

[00:25:28] I guess and all his role is they introduce him in a funny way but his whole his whole role and

[00:25:33] the reason for being is to roam the streets and if you bump into him he challenges you a really

[00:25:39] difficult fight and if you lose and I lost a lot he takes all your money yeah he shakes you down

[00:25:45] it stills all your money and that's kind of like the it's subtle encouragement to take the money

[00:25:49] you get and spend it on your skills every single time not or not hang onto it otherwise you're

[00:25:55] gonna lose it so I'm assuming he's in the later games as well I think he does make appearances

[00:26:01] in later games I don't remember exactly how he worked in the future ones

[00:26:07] but I feel like I remember him not being only exclusive to 0 okay did you beat him at all

[00:26:14] because I know it's possible but I never managed to do it yeah I got a lucky win on him pretty early

[00:26:20] so I got a good chunk of money out of him that way and then I did lose to him a number of times

[00:26:26] until I finally unlocked some certain skills and then it was pretty consistent that I was able

[00:26:31] to beat him after that but a lot of times I would still just avoid him because the amount of money

[00:26:37] you get from beating him by the time it's easy to beat him is not really worth the effort to beat him

[00:26:45] yeah because like my my my struggle was like okay need to go save so I round a corner and

[00:26:49] I really want to save and he's sitting right next to the phone booth like if he's sleeping it's okay

[00:26:53] I can sneak across and then save but if he's awake I don't want to go anywhere near him because I lost

[00:26:58] a lot of money that way it's it's interesting I mean later on you get so much of it and so for those

[00:27:03] who have not played yet because of 0 you get piles and piles of yet in this game through combat

[00:27:08] and the more brutal and aggressive yarn combat I think the more money you get is how it works

[00:27:14] to a degree yes it also depends on who you're fighting so you know if you can if you fight a couple

[00:27:20] of street thugs that you're not going to get nearly as much money as if you're fighting the dude

[00:27:23] and the gold suit because he's just loaded with cash literally a piggy bank yeah yeah I remember that

[00:27:33] I would I actually got to a point what's that there isn't he the guy who teaches the move where

[00:27:39] you throw the money in the air to distract the enemies and that's your escape mechanic I think

[00:27:44] that was him I don't remember who taught you that well because it wasn't just one guy in a gold

[00:27:51] suit it was a bunch like you just run into random random guy in a gold suit who was just supposed to

[00:27:55] be a young rich guy who was fought his cash as he all of a sudden he's like yeah I'm a tough guy

[00:28:03] I'll kick your ass and then he loses pretty easily most of the time so yeah he's a mark it's

[00:28:09] funny because like by the time you meet the guy who's like tells you how to make it rain you probably

[00:28:13] fed up with a combat encounters so you run into him and he's like oh you don't want to fight

[00:28:17] just throw money in the ground and it distracts him and that's I use that quite a bit and you lose

[00:28:21] a little bit of money but not you save time which is which is nice it's funny I forget what the

[00:28:27] guy said gold suit but yeah there's something funny about this game that kind of doesn't fit

[00:28:33] with the franchise to a degree is as you go through the games there's always the the statement of

[00:28:40] oh kiddo you would never hurt anybody you know like not he'd never kill anybody basically is the idea

[00:28:48] right and there's also and he wouldn't theoretically he wouldn't his character is always like

[00:28:56] take care of the kids beat the shit out of shit heads and don't kill anyone right kind of the way

[00:29:03] he is and so the whole first the whole yakuza zero is he's framed for murder and everybody's

[00:29:10] and you know the whole franchise is oh he would never kill anybody never kill anybody and then there's

[00:29:14] a point in yakuza zero where you're being chased down the freeway you got a rocket launcher and

[00:29:20] you're shooting helicopters out of this guy I'm pretty sure dudes died non violent rocket launcher

[00:29:26] totally totally a non violent hug with rockets that explode yeah it's even the

[00:29:33] the forgot about the helicopter scene that helicopter scene is pretty brutal but even outside

[00:29:37] of that just the day-to-day combat you do like okay sure they stand up and get up off the ground

[00:29:43] after combat and then usually apologize to you for getting in your way but the combat itself

[00:29:47] especially with beast mode which is like there's different styles and one of them is beast style

[00:29:51] and it involves picking up any heavy object in the in the fight area it was my favorite

[00:29:55] slime it into people yeah it is brutal like there's one where you're fighting and then I just

[00:30:00] grab a scooter like a moped and you just slam it into the guy's head on the ground and there's

[00:30:05] blood and teeth flying out of him everywhere or like modium on with the baseball by the slugger style

[00:30:10] where you they're on the ground they're half conscious and modium a teesma for a swing and just

[00:30:16] whales on their face and then after combat it's okay they stand up and they apologize to you

[00:30:21] it's it's it's it's I'm like we're just violent we thought that was great um and

[00:30:27] Yakuza zero set me up for so much excitement but also so much disappointment

[00:30:33] for what came next because it's so far into the franchise as a work

[00:30:39] that the mechanics have evolved a lot so I would imagine Yakuza five and Yaku or maybe Yakuza six

[00:30:47] it's a game after is very similar to zero in terms of combat mechanics but you know going

[00:30:55] into kawami and kawami too I felt like the combat was a lot more limited which was kind of a bummer

[00:31:02] like it not bad just there was you know in Yakuza zero you get used to picking up motorcycles and

[00:31:09] slamming them into people you know I called them motorcycle hugs like this game is where get hug

[00:31:18] started because it was just like you'd start by like grabbing people hugging them and killing them

[00:31:22] and then it became picking up bicycles and mopeds and motorcycles so they those all became hugs

[00:31:29] that's fine in my stream and you get into Yakuza kawami and you you aren't able to pick up the

[00:31:35] big giant things like that anymore I think the biggest thing you could pick up some motorcycle or a

[00:31:39] bicycle so you don't have this beast one but I don't know to a degree part of it kind of makes

[00:31:47] sense he's younger and more capable like probably stronger and zero than he would be in the later ones

[00:31:53] especially I think Yakuza back his sword in in one he's already what like 36 38 something like

[00:32:01] that because just over 10 years in prison right right and like that's how the original Yakuza opens

[00:32:09] is it like it starts with a thing kiddie who goes to prison for like 10 years and then he gets out

[00:32:14] and then the game starts and so zero takes place before all of that and so he's younger he's out on

[00:32:22] the streets he's kicking people's ass all the time maybe he's strong enough to pick up a motorcycle

[00:32:26] then and he's not later but it's well I'll never forget the one quest I can't remember if it was

[00:32:32] Majima or Kiru but you have to track down a lady who's operating it's not prostitution but it's like

[00:32:39] a panty selling ring or something like that and you're going asking all these different girls

[00:32:43] trying to find the one that matches the description and the ones that are not the right target

[00:32:47] always do something funny and one of them's like huh excuse me I do what now and then her boyfriend

[00:32:52] strolls up the side of the street and he's like did you just accuse my my girlfriend of this so

[00:32:58] you end up doing a fight with her boyfriend in a couple of his buddies and you just you beat that

[00:33:03] shit out of him with a baseball bat or or bikes whatever you crack kick the crap at him teeth blood

[00:33:07] the whole nine yards and then it ends and he's like it's a misunderstanding and you shake on it

[00:33:12] move on your your your very way just the the the black and white between brutal violent combat

[00:33:18] and like oh it's okay you apologize after we're good don't worry about it it's fine yeah it's

[00:33:23] it's so it's so funny and I don't I guess this is what the intended but it's just such a violent world

[00:33:29] and they make so much fun of it it's such a weird thing yeah it's it's very casual violence right

[00:33:36] yeah but it's it's funny and that's the solution to just about everything in the game is you know

[00:33:43] what somebody stole your purse let me kick their ass

[00:33:48] it's a viral with the baseball bat yeah somebody's got to cult going kick their ass

[00:33:57] somebody bumped into me they're gonna fight me so I gotta kick their ass

[00:34:03] and there's a lot of it you go through hundreds of battles in this game like combat is frequent

[00:34:07] and like I don't think I ever got tired of it because I didn't I didn't mind the combat

[00:34:10] I mean I don't think the combat is you know super amazing or anything like that but it's it was

[00:34:14] always fun I especially liked Maja about the baseball bat because some attacks you had a time

[00:34:19] the button pressed for different moves or if you're riding and you do a swing you do a nice cartwheel

[00:34:23] with the baseball bat I mean it wasn't just AB for attacking like there was definitely combos

[00:34:28] there's definitely secret moves and hidden moves with that it was interesting and then you each one

[00:34:33] had I think four styles I think you might have a fifth style from that wrong I didn't get it though

[00:34:38] yeah he did have a fun time but you've done lock right so you're saying that in Kwameo 1 and 2

[00:34:45] and I guess later on the franchise it still has that kind of combat but it gets the mechanics aren't

[00:34:49] as deep um it's it's just different it doesn't feel as open ended for the player to sort of choose

[00:34:59] how they want to fight instead you're okay kind of narrowed into like this is how kiddo you fights

[00:35:06] and you can unlock these moves or these moves or these moves whereas in zero it's like can you

[00:35:12] fight like this he could fight like that he could fight like that he could do this what like

[00:35:15] which style you like and then unlock moves from there right okay all right yeah because in zero

[00:35:22] is neat because if you want to be like a you know burly tank type character who defends for many

[00:35:27] angle you can be that if you wait fast and do like you know caporea style where you're rolling on

[00:35:33] the ground you can do that with some with mageumail like there's different variety in the combat

[00:35:37] and like I know you're probably you're probably better off using a variety of styles but I think

[00:35:41] I got through this game just using beast mode and slugger style yeah I was I was beast mode most of

[00:35:47] the time I was slugger style most of the time um you know that there were times where I had to switch

[00:35:54] it up and do something different because you know a certain fight wasn't working for me or whatever

[00:35:58] but for the most part it was just those um and I don't want to say like the combat feels lacking

[00:36:06] in kawami or kawami two or subsequent entries it's just that yakuza zero let you have so much fun

[00:36:15] with the combat that you kind of have to temper your expectations going into kawami afterward

[00:36:22] so the combat's still fun it's still interesting but like I said you know you don't get the over

[00:36:26] the top stuff like throw and motorcycles are people it's just not a thing but most of the feel of

[00:36:32] the combat is still there as you go through the franchise so like zero is a great entry point

[00:36:40] to really suck you in because of what it's got going on in it but then you also have to

[00:36:45] reel in your expectations for the next so many games for certain aspects because you know kawami

[00:36:52] are remakes of one and two so they're massively updated but it's still not the same

[00:36:58] degree that zero got and then you know when you play through three four and five they're just

[00:37:03] remasters of the ps3 games so those are going to feel even more dated than kawami one and two

[00:37:11] but yeah I mean three especially was kind of it rough to go back to now um and like a lot of the

[00:37:17] stuff that was approved on later on is not there in the three I heard four and five were okay five

[00:37:22] I heard was quite long with many multiple characters to play so I'm kind of interested in that one

[00:37:26] but I know three might be able to hump when I get to that I mean like I said I do believe I beat three

[00:37:34] and it wasn't bad it was a little slow but it's also it's telling a new type of story like it leaves

[00:37:41] Kamurocho it leaves Soutenbori and it goes down to the southern island of Japan so I don't

[00:37:49] remember what they call the region but I think the southern island is Honshu okay can't remember for

[00:37:56] sure but it's the little resort island that's off the southern tip of Japan like that's where it

[00:38:00] takes place so you know you spend a lot of time on the beach side with your little orphanage of

[00:38:07] children and right I heard about that yeah because again Kuru has a heart of goal yeah you're gonna

[00:38:15] be kills people brutally you know well I mean as you go through the franchise he tries to get out

[00:38:22] of the yak is a repeatedly right so and it never takes for long is the problem with him

[00:38:31] yeah it's it's an interesting game and like I think for the combat as fun as I had in zero I don't

[00:38:38] think that has to be I can't be the focus on why you want to play these games I think for me the focus

[00:38:43] is more on the story that they're telling and some background on on the characters because in the

[00:38:47] world because I want to play the later games the franchise and that's why I'm playing with these

[00:38:50] earlier ones so it's not as if the combat it's it's the story so I think if I did do well I

[00:38:56] did start Kwame one I think I put the difficulty down to easy from that wrong I played through most

[00:39:01] of zero on normal all of this the first fight was an FU I'd put that with the easy but I think the

[00:39:07] later games might just put it the easy second go through the storyline I think is what I'm gonna do

[00:39:13] so yeah the the original game came out for PS2 in 2006 2005 in Japan so that's the early part of it

[00:39:23] but like you were talking about how they sort of romanticize you know the whole yakuza culture I

[00:39:31] guess I don't know what you want to call it but yeah even the original yakuza it got a movie adaptation

[00:39:38] in Japan yeah it's called like a dragon and it's about yakuza and maja or about kiddie and majima

[00:39:46] interesting okay and so it tells the story of the first game

[00:39:50] I wonder how that I wonder how that how it's that movie's aged well I'm happy to check that out

[00:39:57] because like a lot of this game feels like it's based in like like movies that romanticize the yakuza

[00:40:02] and stories and stuff to begin with so it's interesting that it itself got a movie adaptation

[00:40:05] that's funny yeah that's interesting okay so as far as length of this how long did it take you

[00:40:13] to go through yakuza zero I want to say it was like 35 38 hours of the most and I did I didn't do

[00:40:20] nearly 100 percent okay because I'm looking at how long to beat here main story says 31 and a half

[00:40:27] hours okay main plus sides says 64 and a half hours I think I came in around 83 but I did a lot

[00:40:38] of side stuff yeah and then I can believe it yeah what do you think it says for completionist

[00:40:46] completeness like everything every mini game every car race the cavalry to get to buy every

[00:40:55] club and to run every club it's got to be like 100 hours it says 142 hours 140 I can't even imagine

[00:41:05] what would be the big time thinking this one then there's a lot of side quests a lot of them

[00:41:11] yeah yeah there's a bunch like there's a there's a lot of money sinks in the game so you

[00:41:19] like even after you max out the real estate game and the cabaret game there's tons of money to spend

[00:41:26] there's tons of things to spend that money on that you earn rather than just reinvesting it to

[00:41:31] make money faster and then you know there's items to find there's just so many mini games there's

[00:41:42] like I think there was the virtual golf there's the batting cages um there's no it is I bet you

[00:41:49] the biggest time sync has got to be the um so kira was fine it's just as fists weapons but

[00:41:54] magma actually has a weapon system and you can there's crafting in it and to craft items you

[00:42:01] need to do get parts and the way they the way they handle the getting the parts is you go to a

[00:42:05] Chinese restaurant and there's a husband wife couple that run it and on the side of the restaurant

[00:42:10] their business is to send out agents globally to get crafting items for you and there's a whole set up

[00:42:17] to that I don't know if you remember that part at all or not I do there's there's dozens of items

[00:42:20] in that you can completely forgotten about that but then you bring that up and now I remember yes

[00:42:26] you'd send out like okay how much money do I want to invest in this to make sure of its success

[00:42:32] and then you know depending on how much money you put into it it changes the percentage of success

[00:42:37] the percentage of critical success the percentage of failure and all that and so you know if you

[00:42:42] get a critical success all of a sudden it's like man that was fantastic you got this and this

[00:42:47] and this and this and this and this right yeah like the presentation was so flashy like Charlie's

[00:42:54] angels type of thing or something yeah it's like you Asian encountered you know a stray dog got bit

[00:42:59] or you know Henry found a stray dog but you know dodged it or ran into so and so shopping cart

[00:43:05] like there's different event text it's not animated well it's just text in some post cards

[00:43:10] of the journey to get the item but all of this just for basically crafting obtaining crafting resources

[00:43:15] is really funny like a lot of this game it feels really funny yeah and then you know there's trading

[00:43:22] cards to find I believe and they're all like yes trading card of what though do you want to say

[00:43:29] what they're for phone call services yeah sorry youtube that's what they're for that's about as far

[00:43:40] as we'll go into that I think phone call services I do I do you know what's funny it relate kind

[00:43:46] of related to that is there are tissues in the game I'll be with that but there's a reason for them

[00:43:52] and the first time I try playing this game a couple years ago I didn't realize it was there for

[00:43:57] but the reason for tissues is that one of the side stories involves like a random beat cop who

[00:44:03] patrols the city and if you run into him he's very polite and very nice but he always you know

[00:44:08] suspects cure of doing no good and being involved in crime so we have to do a search on you and find

[00:44:13] contraband of some kind so he always when you run into him you have to give him some kind of item

[00:44:18] for your inventory so that's why you always keep the cheapest item which is tissues on you and you

[00:44:22] can give it to this guy and that's what I realized they're for is to give the tissues to the cop

[00:44:26] so he leaves you alone I thought that was funny when I realized what they're for yeah because I

[00:44:31] think your inventory capacity is like 10 or 11 items and every time you or maybe 14 something

[00:44:36] like that it's not big and every time you run into him he's like ah you look like you're up to

[00:44:41] no good give me something out of your pockets and you give him tissue or bottle of water some

[00:44:47] random crap that's not harm that's harmless and he's like all right you're fine get on your way

[00:44:55] which is funny because like outside of that I mean the only thing in my inventory is as a

[00:44:59] bunch of energy drinks and food items there's nothing really else in the game that you need to get

[00:45:03] really like you get items you can open your character but nothing illegal really

[00:45:08] yeah but I mean the energy drinks can be pricey depending and then yeah you don't want to lose them

[00:45:13] yeah and then you know there I found I think I remember points where I just was loaded with

[00:45:20] power-ups and stuff things that you know either I didn't want to lose or if I hand it over

[00:45:24] to the cop it's a no-no so yeah no for sure and that's I guess for people who have not played this

[00:45:32] game that's basically your health recovery that's your potions in this game is energy drinks

[00:45:36] and I remember that I'll remember that because the first the opening of this game

[00:45:41] because of the save system and there are and even though there's checkpoints the beginning

[00:45:45] of the game is not it's not favorable to new players I'll put it that way and the opening there's

[00:45:49] a scene early on we have to go through a not gonna call a dungeon if you enter an office and

[00:45:53] you have a series of fights back-to-back and I struggled with that because you don't have any healing

[00:45:59] items because you don't think to buy them and there's very few in that whole sequence and like you

[00:46:03] ended up with a boss fight and I just every single time I tried it I'm screwed because I don't

[00:46:08] have any any energy drinks to get my life back up yeah I I will say like this game really nails

[00:46:17] the idea of like when it's coming up to the end of a chapter things get heavy and intense yeah

[00:46:26] and it's just a blast to play because now all of a sudden you're just barreling through an army

[00:46:32] of people kicking ass left and right while they're shooting at you they're throwing stuff at you

[00:46:40] you're getting yeah tag teamed by tons of guys and you're just like I'm just gonna run through

[00:46:45] all of you and beat you all up let me throw a couch at that guy let me was it the there's one

[00:46:54] sequence for yourness sewer and when you come against the boss it cuts to a cutscene of the

[00:46:58] boss in a sewer is driving a motorcycle at you in a sewer and it jumps off it and you have a

[00:47:04] boss battle it's it is pretty epic you're right that the the boss sequences and the lead up to

[00:47:09] those are pretty epic there is one where you're at the clan headquarters and it's like you're like oh

[00:47:14] it's you have meeting with the clan chief or clan head and it's it seems like it goes your way

[00:47:18] but it still needs to be a fight still need to kick your ass and they don't throw like one or two

[00:47:22] bad guys at you it's like dozens of enemies at you it's like the room is full of guys you got

[00:47:28] to beat up on and if memory serves this is the one where a giant castle comes up out of the ground

[00:47:38] a castle wasn't there a giant castle that came up out of the ground or was that at a different

[00:47:44] one because that happened in one of them I thought that was in zero the clan headquarters

[00:47:50] of the family headquarters is like a very old style Japanese castle like the structure

[00:47:56] no no there was like this massive gold castle that came up out of the ground and I thought

[00:48:01] it was the one time where kiddie went down to sooted bori in the game and he was going to visit

[00:48:09] that other clan headquarters and so this big castle like the ground sort of opened and a castle

[00:48:15] rose out of the ground really that's fun yeah I don't think that's this game like that's a kind of

[00:48:21] humor where there's a lot of that in seven because like that got the character in that game has

[00:48:25] like a delusional imagination right where he's always imagining things like that but not in zero I don't

[00:48:30] remember that at all I have to take a look uh oh okay my bad that's kawami that's yakuza 2 and kawami 2

[00:48:43] okay so that's later on but yeah most of the pieces of this game are like corporate office buildings

[00:48:50] alleys sewers like you know like it's but it's wild how like parks and stuff but I always love the

[00:48:57] battles because it's not just again it's not just two or three guys like sometimes it is but

[00:49:01] the big set pieces dozens dozens and dozens and dozens of enemies like the screen filling it feels like

[00:49:08] what's that game what's that franchise um three kingdoms I think is a franchise we need them

[00:49:13] up on a grand scale I think it's three kingdoms oh diasty warriors diasty warriors that's what if

[00:49:21] that's what it almost feels like not maybe to that scale is more depth to the combat than diasty

[00:49:24] warriors yeah but there are so many enemies in that screen and it's not it's not a cakewalk either

[00:49:29] like yeah you want to grab a coach because the coach might take out two or three guys for a few

[00:49:33] seconds it really does feel like it pushes you to your limits but it feels satisfying beating some

[00:49:38] those those large battles yeah definitely um but yeah that's that's a recurring theme in yakuza

[00:49:45] is you'll like all of a sudden you'll be somewhere and there's just this massive reveal of something

[00:49:51] huge and stupid that you would have never expected there right like yeah I think under the park was

[00:49:58] the uh the gambling place like there was a casino and the uh the the coliseum fight club was

[00:50:09] under the park just in a bathroom or something like that it was a it was a boat you had to take a boat ride

[00:50:17] and the boat went underwater that was the one in sotenbury because that would go over the in the

[00:50:23] cadal and then like drop down yeah but there was also one at the park for kiddie I believe was there

[00:50:31] I must have missed that one see I missed a lot of side stuff but I remember that one with

[00:50:35] Majima because you go underground and there's a whole fight club thing and it's like a big

[00:50:39] huge arena and it's like it's not something you take part in directly again it's another

[00:50:43] meeting game where you kind of managing it and if I remember right it's a bunch of pretty women

[00:50:47] doing the fighting and it's it's kind of out there it's kind of maybe inappropriate but it's funny

[00:50:54] no in in yakuza zero in Kamurocho it's across the street from the big arcade in the big building

[00:51:01] you go downstairs there I think that's where the fight club was really I miss that entire time

[00:51:07] I'm I'm reaching back here but yeah there was there's okay there's stuff hidden all over this game

[00:51:13] it's ridiculous yeah like there's there's the bowling mini game once there's but there's

[00:51:18] madjong and then there's a madjong darts and they're only on like one maybe two places and if you

[00:51:24] miss it you don't go in that building you don't even see it and they're just there I guess

[00:51:28] there's the five minutes playing billiards just cuss right yeah there's the disco tech

[00:51:33] there's which which is DDR right basically kind of yeah that's interesting so and then there's

[00:51:40] the karaoke mini game there's there's just so many mini games gosh I'm like as I talk about

[00:51:46] them I'm remembering more and more of them and I'm like all I crap they were really a lot of these in

[00:51:50] this game yeah there's definitely a lot of mini games in this I mean you can actually play I think

[00:51:56] all in multiplayer mini games are available in the main menu when you unlock them because I think

[00:52:00] they had the expectation that some of these might be fun enough to play with friends and you're not

[00:52:04] gonna want diving to your safe file to do it but they let you do that I love that about this this

[00:52:08] franchise again it's the Shenmue influence it has to be there are so many mini games in Shenmue

[00:52:13] and there's there's twice as many in Yakuza it's wild and even that like in in Yakuza they put

[00:52:21] Sega arcade games in it too and depending on you know some of them are like legit mini games that

[00:52:28] they made for Yakuza that they just stick in there and some of them are arcade games from the time

[00:52:33] that it takes place right or at least that would make sense at that point so I think um yeah Yakuza

[00:52:41] 0 had like two or three I think it had like space hairier and want to say hang on let me see

[00:52:47] Yakuza 0 arcade games like they definitely have the claw machine for example you go in you go

[00:52:53] and yeah claw machine and you can get items from there and there's a bunch of items to collect if

[00:52:57] you want to but yeah they have space hairier where is it wiki please

[00:53:06] space hairier fantasy zone outrun and super hang on that's what it was yeah space a fantasy zone

[00:53:13] and outrun I think fantasy zone this is the first time I play fantasy zone in like 20 years

[00:53:20] because of this game I'd forgotten that game existed um so there weren't in the original Yakuza

[00:53:27] but in Yakuza kawami they have one called mesu king battle bug beauties and one called print club

[00:53:35] I don't remember those too much uh Yakuza 2 they had one called yf6 which was a game

[00:53:42] that was supposed to be sort of like a a fighting game final fantasy sort of combination thing

[00:53:47] okay and it was playing on the hype of those and so that was in Yakuza 2 but in kawami 2

[00:53:54] they actually stuck virtual fighter 2 virtual on and a game called poilance

[00:54:03] POY LETS don't think I played that one before um but yeah I was so excited that virtual on

[00:54:13] in a virtual fighter 2 were in kawami 2 it was awesome um and then through a bunch of like

[00:54:19] through the Yakuza 3 4 and uh 3 and 4 you get this game called boxelios and then a boxelios too

[00:54:28] Yakuza 5 got also got virtual fighter 2 um tyco no tatsujin which I feel like I know

[00:54:36] the name but I can't place it and then two other games that are specific to Yakuza 5

[00:54:43] and then Yakuza 6 gets space hairier gets fantasy zone it gets out run it gets super hang on

[00:54:48] virtual fighter 5 and poil huge virtual fighter 5 is a mini game right like this is pretty awesome

[00:54:57] just wild even in judgment judgment has the arcade that you could play these games in really okay

[00:55:06] yeah cuz like got her six remote in win 2015 or something uh Yakuza 6 something like that yeah

[00:55:15] cuz virtual fighter 5 was not that old when that game out so that's that's like yeah five

[00:55:21] six years later I mean there's you got today in 2024 you would have somebody like say

[00:55:25] a taking that game virtual fighter 5 and selling it on the e-shop for like you know 20 bucks

[00:55:30] the fact that it was a mini game and Yakuza 6 is funny that's that's wild yeah in judgment as well

[00:55:36] so judgment also got space hairier fantasy zone fighting viper's which is an underrated

[00:55:42] fighting game period so the fact that that made it into one of these games as an arcade play

[00:55:47] that's great motor ray we're in an era of arcade compilations that's funny that this is a side

[00:55:53] thing that's just added for free it's kind of like when animal crossing on the game cube had a

[00:55:57] bunch of NES game just cuz even with the animal crossing the switch they had nothing like that

[00:56:02] cuz because they have the virtual console for that right they make money off it

[00:56:06] that's funny right fighting viper's is hilarious as a mini game yeah judgment also had

[00:56:11] virtual fighter five uh puyo puyo and it's the 2011 version of puyo puyo by the way so that one's

[00:56:18] only a few years old too and then judgment got one called comodore of the dead which sounds like

[00:56:24] it's house of the dead kind of but shooting joke well you know what it is too is they probably

[00:56:31] using assets from the zombie game cuz like this this franchise is pretty notable or notorious

[00:56:36] I guess however you look at it for reusing assets right I mean that's how they pump these games out

[00:56:40] every other year like this these games go pretty frequently yeah I think judgment who just came

[00:56:47] out two years ago a year and a half ago two years ago now it was not that long ago yeah lost judgment

[00:56:53] oh meant so I know we're on another tangent but I'm just having fun going through these arcade games

[00:56:57] that make appearances in the franchise now so like a dragon basically has the same assortment as

[00:57:04] judgment uh lost judgment also gets uh oh sonic the fighters that's that few people have played

[00:57:16] that game that's actually pretty interesting um which I mean I have it on the game cube in one of

[00:57:22] the sonic collections that were on it I don't remember which one it was um but then I think it

[00:57:27] was sonic gems but then uh like a dragon guidance the man who erased his name that one also got

[00:57:34] sonic the fighters virtue fighter to fighting vipers to wow that's pretty awesome too and then I

[00:57:43] mean fighting is vipers one and two were also pretty old out of the point that's fun but that's

[00:57:48] all like first gen or second first and second gen like 3d get 3d fighters for Sega that's the one

[00:57:53] thing I'm missing on them on the mister on the machine behind me is um like they've added so much

[00:57:57] to the mister over the year over the last few years but I'm really hoping they can somehow manage

[00:58:01] to squeeze the nyomi arcade stuff on there I don't know if it's possible but they just did the

[00:58:06] n64 so who knows but I love those Sega three button fighting games like fighting vipers like

[00:58:12] well those are not fighting vipers and mega mix are not Naomi I think those are the am two

[00:58:18] are they oh then then that's possible we could have that on the mister I wonder

[00:58:22] because I love to play really 3d stuff because it looks great even today at least it looks

[00:58:26] better in place anyway but I love those funny vipers is classic but what we were talking about

[00:58:32] like you see these you know the amount of games in the yakuza franchise like the outside games that

[00:58:38] Sega owns finding their way in the number goes up and up and up and up as you go through the franchise

[00:58:44] but then with like a dragon infinite wealth yeah got three

[00:58:51] yeah because they probably realized well Sega's got some plans right because they've said

[00:58:55] they're going to take back a lot of their properties and do modern versions of them right

[00:59:00] so games like yeah maybe you had a crazy taxi but they got plans to that they could have had

[00:59:04] golden axe but they have plans for that now so maybe they've they've learned to be dialed back

[00:59:07] the freebies are giving I guess yeah so all of a sudden in the infinite wealth you've got virtual

[00:59:12] fighter 3 TV which virtual fighter 3 is probably the the reason I don't play virtual fighter anymore

[00:59:19] because it was so slow it like and virtual fighter is not the fastest fighting game

[00:59:25] yes not and then Sega bass fishing what and because you know people playing yakuza are super excited

[00:59:36] well I mean it's also not the same kind of beat him up game anymore right no it's it's more of a

[00:59:41] JRPG yeah and then spike out which is from 1998 so that sounds like it's probably a volleyball game

[00:59:48] or something yeah those are probably more thematic with the game because infinite wealth takes place

[00:59:53] in like Hawaii or something it's from where to understand so that makes more sense there but still

[00:59:58] you I mean it would have been nice to see that you know hang on in Finne's zone or still carried across

[01:00:03] or like adding new Genesis era games to it would have been fun I mean Sega's arcade stuff was fantastic

[01:00:09] back in the 80s and early 90s I'd love to see that stuff show no more I guess that's what

[01:00:15] free oh apparently spike out as a brawler but yeah like it's it shows like

[01:00:21] Yakuza was such a strong force for Sega that they were just throwing like a five year old game

[01:00:26] into it as a mini game and now they're like well now it's doing so well we're just gonna gouge with

[01:00:32] it right which is an unfortunate turn of events for the franchise because you know they they put

[01:00:38] new game plus behind an extra purpose and I want to play in well but I mean the the full version

[01:00:46] which includes the season pass or whatever how it is in the in the new game plus it was like

[01:00:50] $93 or something ridiculous Canadian like just before tax it's a pricey game when you want

[01:00:56] everything not that I wanted to play these games with new game plus I mean I mean zero has

[01:01:02] new game plus and I have no interest in going through zero with new game plus if anything I would

[01:01:05] go back to my old save because I haven't really unlocked right but I need I don't know if I'd

[01:01:10] want to start all over again yeah yeah what's save a new game plus kind of on the fence on that

[01:01:17] because I do have all these up through seven on my ps4 but I don't play on the ps4 as much anymore

[01:01:23] so I'm like right should I be playing these on my steam deck now because that's easy for me to do

[01:01:29] to just pop on and play but well I mean that's the thing like I've been wanting to play these games

[01:01:33] for years like I said I wanted to want to want to play when you were streaming but I mean

[01:01:38] up until then it was my desktop and having to sit at my desktop after working four hours a week

[01:01:42] it's not happening but on the steam deck zero it's just not that old the game runs flawlessly in the

[01:01:48] steam deck it plays great runs great it's not it's not 150 gigs some other games are these days

[01:01:54] and that's the only reason why I got through it and that's why I think I actually beat the franchise

[01:01:57] of the next year or so is because it's on the steam deck yeah and I love that the franchise is on

[01:02:03] steam now because it was originally just played locked to PlayStation so now the fact that it's on

[01:02:08] PC and a little more accessible that's awesome yeah I'm surprised they put them on gogg

[01:02:15] there's there's been an opening up I think of Japanese houses kind of slowly

[01:02:21] porting their games to PC like Atlas is another one that I think now it does a lot more PC ports

[01:02:25] than they used to in the past there's still KG about it but they still do it Capcom has been doing a

[01:02:29] lot of stuff on PC the last number of years and been doing really killer with it like I mean I

[01:02:34] don't think Resident Evil remakes would have been as successful if they were not PC right they're

[01:02:40] just they sold really well in PC but I think 10 years ago they wouldn't have considered

[01:02:44] the PC being a serious place for their games I think that's definitely changed over the years

[01:02:51] but if only for a fan we would go back to PC like it does but it's going to lay now because they have

[01:02:56] exclusive deal with Sony which I find weird that's a whole other episodes topic but I find that

[01:03:02] weird since they you know their sales have not met expectations for the last few releases that

[01:03:07] have been Sony exclusives but I know it couldn't be the fact that you're only releasing on PS5

[01:03:13] that not enough people own yet to really sink into that being a good market share

[01:03:19] it's like you know wouldn't it be better just to put it on everything wouldn't that make you

[01:03:23] more money like what do I know I mean we're not we're not business majors maybe I don't know

[01:03:28] it's bizarre but at least at least Yakuza gets released on everything and I think it's I think

[01:03:32] it's simultaneously released I don't think any of the recent ones have been exclusive to a console

[01:03:36] I'm pretty sure Infinite Welfare was across the board on everything I think the the

[01:03:41] recent with Kuru like a dragon something something face or losing his name that one was on

[01:03:47] a race is there was on everything many races his name yeah judgment was on everything I believe too

[01:03:53] so you can play these on it on any of the consoles and definitely on PC well maybe not Xbox

[01:03:59] actually now that I think about it or so I don't think these games or switch yet will

[01:04:04] switch is lucky it runs what it does but I they don't think I don't think they're on Xbox so

[01:04:08] maybe their console exclusive to Sony but they're definitely on PC and they run great on PC

[01:04:13] I do like how every time you spin up one of these games the first screen you see I think after

[01:04:18] the second logo is that real Yakuza use a controller just to hammer home yes you're on PC but we want

[01:04:24] you to use a controller to play these games don't use those although you're totally good

[01:04:28] but don't I think that's funny yeah I've not seen that since I've only played on my PS4 but

[01:04:33] I was very linked to this franchise and I mean for people who are still have not played it

[01:04:39] grab Yakuza 0 on sale it goes on sale all the time grab it on sale test the waters if you're not

[01:04:47] sure if you like Yakuza or not test the waters with the Yakuza 0 if you enjoy beat them up

[01:04:53] at all in quirky games you will probably like it and you know you can probably grab it for

[01:04:59] under you you'd almost certainly grab it for under $10 when it's on sale I think it was six bucks

[01:05:04] in the last sale you guys talked about yeah it was I mean $30 for six or seven games like that's

[01:05:10] insane right and like I mean three four our only remasters are not remakes like Kwame 1 and 2 which

[01:05:17] are totally remakes and then 0 is ground up brand new and it's like so 7 and 8 are if you're if

[01:05:24] you want if you like the idea of this company and the story that they're telling with with these

[01:05:28] 7 and 8 are different game styles or JRPGs and they are very good and I've played a bit of 7

[01:05:33] you don't need to play the original series to understand 7 it's completely separate story

[01:05:39] but if you want some history on the overall over like the last 20 years of this franchise

[01:05:45] you can't you 0 is worth it like the story and 0 is legit good it's a great story it's not short

[01:05:51] it's quite long side stuff is fun the mini games are blessed but the story is worth playing even

[01:05:57] if you won't play the game an easy because you're not a fan of beat them up combat I think 0 is

[01:06:01] definitely worth playing and then if you want skip to 7 go for it but I think 0 is definitely a must

[01:06:05] play yes so 7 and 8 is where they changed up the style it's it's kind of a tactical RPG right

[01:06:12] no it's um it's like Final Fantasy oh it's like you actually have a party you know like yes

[01:06:19] oh okay I thought it was a tactical RPG no no no the guy in 7 and 8

[01:06:25] I can't even it's you saw in I think his name is a what's your name is hejibon that's it

[01:06:29] he's got a overactive imagination and feels like everything is like Dragon Quest he's like a fan

[01:06:35] of Dragon Quest RPGs so like every character you meet in the game gets reimagined as a Dragon Quest

[01:06:41] character so like you know a guy's carrying a bag of trash so suddenly he becomes like a trash

[01:06:45] wizard like shit like that it's funny and you do have legit party members like the wizard

[01:06:49] in that game is as a homeless dude you you become friends with and his spells are like he takes a

[01:06:56] swig of whiskey and shoots it out and it sets it on fire so it's a flame attack like it's that

[01:07:00] weird humor of Yakusa but it's a JRPG it's legit entertaining it's fun I do like it but I like how

[01:07:07] I got the background of the city in the world with 0 because I feel like that adds to the game

[01:07:14] even I don't necessarily need it and you could start fresh with 7 it's I think it's worth playing

[01:07:17] 0 for that interesting I didn't realize that's how it was where he's just got an overactive

[01:07:24] imagination and so it's sort of like playing everything up as though it's it's not what's actually

[01:07:29] happening it's how he's imagining it's happening around him so he's sort of like it's sort of

[01:07:34] like that childhood imagination of making things bigger in grander and that's fun I love that

[01:07:40] like when you're entering an office building or sewer for like the party in the quest where

[01:07:43] is in zero it's like a competent counter in in in seven it's more like they call I think the

[01:07:49] logic calls them dungeons at some point they're basically considered dungeons with the map with

[01:07:53] items you can find in chess like it's it's very much treated like a dragon quest game and it's

[01:07:58] funny for that it's legit worth playing it's it's a great game like eight looks great to up I'm

[01:08:02] looking forward to it but like the whole franchise is is written so well like story wise from what I

[01:08:09] played so far is great it's funny it's the whoever the localization team on this game is must have a

[01:08:14] riot because they they have full liberties to do whatever they want on the side stuff the side

[01:08:18] stuff is is so out there from cults to you foes to just everything and seeing the dialogue here who

[01:08:24] has is funny like it's it's wild yeah like there's the odd point where kid you just has to babysit a kid

[01:08:31] there's the odd you know you gotta run across town as fast as you can you can and avoid all the fights

[01:08:38] because you don't have time for a fight so you have to avoid it if you hit a fight all of a sudden

[01:08:43] it's like nope you lose you ran into the guys you weren't supposed to back to the beginning try to get

[01:08:47] yeah like you it's it's it's funny like it's it's good it's it's it's it's it's it's wild that

[01:08:55] this game has gone on as long as it could like as a franchise like I'm surprised nobody's like

[01:08:59] pointed out like it's not a triple A game it's like a double A game in terms of quality like they reuse

[01:09:06] assets all the time like it's a lot of things themes but every time you play this game is still

[01:09:11] fun as hell like it's great yeah it seems like they do I wonder what the budgets are for these games

[01:09:17] because they seem like they accomplish a lot in the development time right yeah how big well

[01:09:25] I think there's interviews with a guy and they're asking well how do you how do you manage to pump out

[01:09:28] these games every other year and he was pre-op front saying we've reused assets right like there's

[01:09:33] a reason they take place in the same city most of the time and like there's certainly different

[01:09:37] things about every single game absolutely but they definitely reuse stuff right a baseball bat

[01:09:41] model for one game can totally be used in another game like there's no reason they redo work I think

[01:09:46] I think right and like the budget for Yakuza 0 was 30 million which seems high it does seem

[01:09:56] like the most recent ones but I mean you factor it you look at how much well how much did GTA 5 cost

[01:10:06] was that like 200 million or something ridiculous I think yeah it was yeah it was more than 200

[01:10:12] million for a game that came years earlier yeah and I feel like there's more varied and interesting

[01:10:20] stuff to do in Yakuza 0 than there is in GTA 5 GTA 5 is very formulaic to a point and I know I'm

[01:10:29] not trying to compare them because I'm like yeah they're the same but I'm just talking about like

[01:10:33] yeah both big open world games but one feels like there's a lot more to do than the other

[01:10:38] and I'll say and they did it for like one eight the cost and also the time like yeah

[01:10:45] GTA 5 was in development for like five six years I think it was it was a long time of development

[01:10:50] and like six has also been around development for a long time it's almost unfair to compare the two

[01:10:55] because they're so different but if we look at like you said open world which they both are and

[01:11:00] stuff to do the mini games in Yakuza are better like all the all the mini games in GTA 5

[01:11:06] like they're they're like you might spend a few minutes with it and then you're done like never

[01:11:10] am I gonna sit down and do a mini game in GTA 5 for hours like I did the slot car racing in Yakuza

[01:11:15] and it's not like the complicated they're complicated in Yakuza either like the slot car thing is

[01:11:18] pretty basic for a mini game the battle mini game in the arena you don't even interact with

[01:11:22] anything it's mostly placing bets on virtual people fighting but it was somehow with the way they

[01:11:28] they did the management side of things and the number crunching it feels like one of those

[01:11:32] idle games on your phone that's the feel of it and it kind of gets you hooked whereas GTA 5 it's kind of

[01:11:37] like oh it's the shooting it's a sniper mission or it's like you know find these items kind of side

[01:11:41] thing and they're not nearly as yeah like it's it's it's it's funny that way I got to love GTA 5 the

[01:11:47] story is in the characters are are fantastic and definitely go toe-to-toe with Yakuza 0 maybe even

[01:11:52] better but the gameplay wise of the mini games is seconded none in Yakuza but I mean it also makes

[01:11:58] sense that they just reuse the models like all they gotta do is it's it some of them yeah I'm sure

[01:12:04] it's straight up reuse at least to a degree so going from Yakuza 70 Yakuza they probably did

[01:12:11] some updates because now it's for the new generation so but I don't think they're starting from 0

[01:12:16] I think they take their old model and you know up the mesh a little bit and then upgrade the texture

[01:12:22] and then call it a day so you're spending half the time on that particular thing than you would have

[01:12:27] from scratch or you know for a lot of the characters you age them a little bit right so yeah they all

[01:12:33] need to touch up anyway but it's not like it's gonna be a ton of work to reuse the model

[01:12:39] to just update it a little so instead of starting from scratch which is great like that's

[01:12:45] that's also a great thing about this is there's so much that they can reuse because they're you

[01:12:49] know it's all comorucho it's all right soton bory right well for the most part anyway so it's

[01:12:55] super easy to reuse these assets and it makes sense because it's all the same place the humans

[01:13:01] are humans no matter what they look like and they only have to touch them up a little bit it's not

[01:13:04] like you're doing like a drag quest you know 10 versus 11 you're doing all brand new monsters and

[01:13:08] this you can reuse the human models it's not like it's unusual like a Konami back in 16 Ape

[01:13:14] days right how many times they were used sprites for their monsters in simply night and and all those

[01:13:19] other cats I did all the time I feel like all the GBA and DS ones are reuse sprites half the time

[01:13:25] yeah they're they're generally reused and maybe touched up right right slide update to it to make

[01:13:32] it work better on the hardware or you know update it a little bit so it doesn't look exactly the same

[01:13:37] or whatever but it's it's mostly reused assets for a lot of those enemies and moves and stuff so

[01:13:43] that saves time saves development time saves money why spend money on something you don't need to

[01:13:48] for something that you're seeing is a financial risk hoping for the reward right and like

[01:13:54] except for yokas I worked out you get awesome storytelling and and fairly frequently time

[01:13:59] schedule so yeah it seems like they did it did extra in eight so maybe we'll see what they do for

[01:14:04] nine but it seems like they've got a good foundation for how they're going to do these yeah for the

[01:14:09] front for the yakuza franchise the only caveat I can see for people is be aware that while

[01:14:15] it's voice acted it's not an English you're gonna be reading subtitles for the first seven games

[01:14:21] zero through six you know what I before it this way I know there's I know there's dub vocals in the

[01:14:28] later games and I didn't like it in seven I turned it off in seven there was English and Japanese

[01:14:32] voices in seven I put it Japanese despite the cast being good like they had um

[01:14:38] George decay was in was in yakuza seven as the English voice actor and that's great but I

[01:14:44] turn it off and I wanted to Japanese voices because of zero because zeros Japanese dialogue fits what

[01:14:49] you're playing it you want it feels like you're playing a movie a Japanese you know yakuza period

[01:14:54] movie that's what it feels like that and that's to have English would ruin it to me I think it

[01:14:59] it almost put me off of playing the franchise at first so then I had to test the waters and try

[01:15:05] it and I was like okay that's not so bad but when I initially was going to start playing these I

[01:15:11] was like I don't know I don't know if I want to do that much reading but there's a lot it's

[01:15:17] definitely it's almost like a beat him up with with JRPG level of reading story telling but

[01:15:25] I mean you hear their voice actors and they just like Majem was voice actor fits him so well

[01:15:30] he was voice actor fits him so well and so many of these characters you hear them talk and you're

[01:15:36] like you can hear the sort of soap opera in this to it that they're putting through and it sounds

[01:15:44] so fun the way they're doing it and then when I was watching the trailer like there was a 10 minute

[01:15:49] trailer put out for Infinite Well a month or two ago I watched it before the game came out and I was

[01:15:53] like yeah okay I didn't expect it to be in English I didn't know seven was in English I was

[01:16:01] still thinking okay the whole game will be in Japanese with English subtitles but they pushed it

[01:16:06] out with these English voices and I was like oh whoa it's it's weird it's not bad it's just weird

[01:16:15] it's weird it reminds me of the first time I saw a Jackie Chan movie I saw I went to the theater

[01:16:20] and I saw Rumble in the Bronx not knowing that that movie was dubbed and seeing that style of the

[01:16:26] movie dubbed felt so wrong the entire time I was watching that movie like it just didn't feel

[01:16:30] right at all and I think it's the same feel for this game if it wasn't Japanese I don't think I

[01:16:34] would enjoy it as much as as weird as that is like I mean I don't mind dub I've seen some

[01:16:39] enemies in dub and they're fine like I've seen kelpubibop in in sub and dub and I like both but

[01:16:44] this game this franchise I think lives as a as a sub yeah it's so for movies for me specifically

[01:16:52] movies and television shows another tangent I'm sorry but it I stray away from watching movies

[01:16:59] that require movies and shows that require subtitles because and I've I don't know if I've

[01:17:06] mentioned this on the podcast but I have something called nice tagmas where my eyes shake back

[01:17:10] and forth constantly I don't really have any control over it my brain never really properly

[01:17:15] made my eyes sync up to look at something straight so they're always trying to sync up so constantly

[01:17:20] shaking so as I've gotten older reading subtitles is difficult for me especially you know if a TV

[01:17:29] 10 12 feet from me because the TV is huge now it can be so it's harder for me to read that text

[01:17:33] the further it is so I'm spending so much time trying to keep up with the text that I'm missing

[01:17:38] the movie oh okay yeah in that regard I stay away from things if I have to read subtitles to

[01:17:46] keep up with the story um so you know I tend to prefer dub's if I can get them even if it feels a

[01:17:54] little off like it's it's the reason I haven't watched uh parasite the Korean movie

[01:18:03] right I was hoping there'd be an English dub but I've not been able to find it so I'm like well

[01:18:07] I guess I won't watch it because I can't yeah so that's the reason I almost just

[01:18:14] just went away from Yakuza before I even started it but the fact that I could actually

[01:18:19] read it my own pace I'm not rushed through at least most of the time uh and generally if it is

[01:18:26] a few cutscenes where they're they're not possible I think but for most part I think you can

[01:18:29] be impositoring cutscenes it's pretty good that way yeah and the pacing is usually pretty good

[01:18:34] if it's auto fed instead of just going at your own pace so yeah it's it works in that regard so

[01:18:40] this was not like as someone who stays away from subtitled works now uh I did not have an issue

[01:18:49] with this at all I love the franchise yeah it's a good one uh like I said zero is fantastic place

[01:18:56] even if you don't have any interest in playing the franchise even if you don't want to play seven

[01:19:00] and eight I think playing Yakuza zero is a nice like state of the of the franchise and nice like

[01:19:07] the way to just capture the feel of what they're going for for the franchise and playing that is

[01:19:10] worth playing especially the story it's legit goodness like yeah drama the intrigue the Yakuza

[01:19:16] culture and traditions and and the way it tugs at your emotions to feel for criminals like it's

[01:19:21] interesting in a lot of ways it's like soprano's level and the plot twists like occasionally you'll see

[01:19:26] what coming but a lot of them are like what yeah it's it's so good and like the interplay with my

[01:19:33] jama and kira and how they tie those two together that's why the story so long as they have two

[01:19:37] different stories they're bringing together and it's just I'm glad that I liked how they wrapped it

[01:19:42] up at the end and it felt it was really good like an enough for like like I said you could stop

[01:19:46] there and be good or you can play seven if you want to or you could legit go through one two three four

[01:19:51] five six if you wanted to I like how they wrapped up the story it was a really is a really interesting

[01:19:56] origin story but I could stop there if I wanted to so yeah definitely check out the franchise look into

[01:20:02] it if you've not as it's worth at least giving it a look see if you're interested grab it on sale if

[01:20:09] you're hesitant I think we've gushed about yakuza zero for long enough what do you think I think

[01:20:16] I'm good my mother-in-law is telling me dinner is ready and I gotta go look after the baby so I have

[01:20:21] to go we have a bad habit of running long if it's just you and me you but I mean you know but

[01:20:27] we can we talk about games that are like legit great and that we're passionate about right so

[01:20:31] this is this is one of those games where I'm glad to have played it finally after several years

[01:20:35] and I'm happy I played it I want other people to play this game and experience what the characters

[01:20:39] the stories are it's legit a great game like a great story to play and they don't have to play it

[01:20:44] on normal difficulty play it uneasy you're losing nothing if you don't like that beat him up combat

[01:20:48] and I don't really care for it played on easy you get a great story and if you want to challenge

[01:20:52] pump it up on hard and you have a fighting game it's it's fun it's it's a great game with the wide

[01:20:57] reach and it's it's it's uniquely Sega is one way to put it like this is this is the way Sega used to

[01:21:03] make all their games like that it's AAA but not kind of style to them and it just they're just

[01:21:10] legit good I know I love Sega yeah it it it feels almost triple a quality without being without

[01:21:17] having the triple a development costs I guess yeah and like almost a bloat to them that's not

[01:21:25] there on these like it just it's just a raw game yeah so anyway thank you all for listening

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[01:22:10] yes yeah do you like this game did you gush along with us like this is a great game or do you think

[01:22:15] this is a pass for you like would you have anybody who's watching this video have you actually play

[01:22:19] through all of the franchise if so what's that like because I'm planning to do that I know it's worth

[01:22:25] my time because zero is fantastic but I'm really worried about three four in the middle that's

[01:22:30] far more than we get stuck but I made it through three you could make it through three okay we'll get

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