Geek Addicts - Episode 67: Discussing The Live Action Bleach Film!

[00:00:00] Hey everybody! Welcome to Geek Addicts! Welcome to Geek Addicts, the pop culture podcast where all we gotta do is drink all our milk. My name is Matt, with me the soul reaper, Bill Byer. How's it going Bill? See if you said soul reaver I could have made like a really cool like Legacy of Cain reference but that's fine. How's things with you Bill? Oh I'm tired. I was up till midnight playing The Sims 2 because I have no I have no I have no idea.

[00:01:06] No problem. What year is it? Well, fun fact, EA just re-released The Sims 1 and 2 on Steam last night so uh... No kidding. Yeah, Sims 2 is incredibly crash prone though so uh... Yeah, that's not fun. But you know 40 bucks for both games with all the expansion packs like it's not a bad deal.

[00:01:36] No, not at all. Um... So yeah, I've uh... I've gotten some anime done this week. Nice. Um, I... Well, first of all, I forgot to mention in the last episode we talked about it afterwards but I did in fact watch Down to Die. Oh nice. Finally got that done and over with. Yeah, yeah. I mean it... Over with is kind of a stray. I mean it wasn't bad. I enjoyed it.

[00:02:02] Um, it's not a show that I'm like, you know, on the edge of my seat to see what happens now. Although the way they leave off first season is kind of bullshit. See, I... My whole time watching that... That was the first time I've ever watched a show in the background. Like... Like... I know like Slade didn't really care for it. Um, I... I don't know. For some reason like it started out and I was just like, I don't... I don't know if I like this show or not. And I got through it. I was playing RuneScape while watching it for the most part.

[00:02:31] And then we got to episode seven and I was like, wait a minute, what's going on here? Um... So I watched that and then uh, immediately went back to, oh, it's just this again, okay. Yeah. Did he... The whole time watching it, I'm like, did he get his balls back yet? Nope, okay. Yeah, he got one of them. He got one of them. Are you drinking a Mountain Dew? No, it's one of those gross monster coffee things because... Oh, okay. I needed caffeine and... Mountain Dew makes me feel like poop, so...

[00:03:00] Well, that's why I thought it was weird. I saw the green can and I was like, wait a minute. Bill doesn't drink Mountain Dew. He's not psychotic. The last time I had a Mountain Dew, like a legit Mountain Dew, I think I was still in high school. And I don't remember which year of high school, so... Don't tell anyone, but this has whiskey in it. Yeah. It's one of those weekends.

[00:03:30] I can imagine. It's... So yeah, aside from Dawn to Dawn, I finished getting up to date with Demon Slayer. And I kind of already had this kind of feeling about it. But now that it's actually... Like, I've gotten to the point where it was actually revealed like where the demons come from. I understand. I understand. Because that was such a weak reveal.

[00:03:59] Like, honestly, I would have preferred it if they'd just been like, no, like, this is not going to be an explanation. It's just demons are just a thing. But no, they left those like little like, oh, here's like a little hint about what it is. And then when you actually find out what it is, you're like, this is the laziest bullshit I've ever seen in my life. It's the kind of shit I would have come up while I was trying to write a story in middle school. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I wrote the same story in middle school, like for every exam.

[00:04:28] And that's why I failed them all. But um, I don't know. It's a very pretty show. I'll say that. It's very pretty. A lot of people say they prefer the show over the manga because the manga is kind of bland without the action and animation. Mm hmm. I mean, at least one thing that is going for it is that it's not a super long show and it doesn't seem like it's going to be a super long show. So like, I, I don't know.

[00:04:56] It just got a point to like, I already had like the kind of conception about it. Uh, before I watched it. And now it's like, and I'm not the kind of person generally who will be like, oh, that's your favorite anime you. But like, now I kind of feel that way about Demon Slayer. It's like, if somebody says that's their favorite, I'm like, uh, at least it's not like the My Hero Academia fans were like the running jokers that they had the smelliest, um, anime community. Jeez.

[00:05:26] That's my first time hearing it, but. Oh no, that's like a legit thing. Like you go to conventions and it's like, you see the My Hero Academia fans and you just go. Oh, part of it is probably because the, the fucking, just based on like what I've seen, like their, the outfits in My Hero were so like, I can imagine it being a very sweaty outfit to wear. Well, My Hero is a really weird one to me because that show is so inspired by like American comics, particularly DC comics.

[00:05:52] Um, you think I'd be all over that, but for some reason I'm just, it's never done anything for me. Hmm. That's fair. I I'm, I'm going to watch it. That's, that's on my list of things to get through this year, but. I'll probably give it a, an honest shot at some point. I mean, I have things on the, I have things that are priority as I've been told multiple times by multiple people over the last couple of months.

[00:06:21] You know, if you know, you know, yeah. Um, yeah, it's weird. Cause I'm like in the, my anime watching right now is weird. Cause it's mostly ongoing shows. Cause I'm watching, I'm actually doing like a thing where I'm watching a bunch of shows weekly, which is different for me. Cause I'm not used to doing that. Cause I've got one show we're going to talk about shortly.

[00:06:46] Um, I'm also watching a pocket theory diary season two solo leveling season two and uh, Sakamoto days, which I just actually watched the newest episode of that right before we started recording. And I have to say that is a manga I've been reading since the start. And my biggest complaint with it is it starts out really good and then kind of loses it the plot as it goes on.

[00:07:17] Um, so the anime itself has been really interesting watching it and it's actually made me kind of realize why I like that manga so much. I'm curious how they're going to handle it when they do get to the more, the middle part that we're currently at where it's kind of slow, but yeah, I'm doing that. And then my major project right now, which has been an adventure, uh, to say the least is I'm watching ghost stories. Yay.

[00:07:47] All I can say is what the fuck? Like, yeah, they were really going like so far out of their way to try. And like push it as far as they can. Well, you know, the story behind ghost stories, right? Oh yeah. Like it, it's supposedly, apparently this is kind of a stretch, like supposedly the show wasn't massively successful in Japan, which the degree of how successful it was in Japan

[00:08:12] is often just kind of like, uh, it's, it's a little, it's a hazy on how, how, how much it actually succeeded slash failed. But the general consensus is it wasn't massively successful. Um, so when they sent it off to America, they basically told ADV, like, you don't care, do whatever the fuck you want. Just try to follow the story. Um, which they did for like five episodes and then they just said, fuck it. Um, yeah.

[00:08:40] Um, yeah. Did you know, I didn't, I was doing research. There is a second dub of that show. Is there? There's an anime is dub. It's lost media now, but it's actually a true to text faithful dub. Interesting. Uh, you can still find five episodes of it online, but the rest of it is like lost media. Like it's gone.

[00:09:07] But apparently from what I've read is it's really boring because the only reason anyone likes ghost stories is because of how off the wall batch it is. Yeah, that's about right. You know, cause we're eventually going to do a GNC on that. We're not going to be able to quote half the lines. Like we just can't. Yeah. Like the way the modern, uh, internet is you, we, you can't quote anything from that show anymore. Cause it's very, it's so early.

[00:09:37] That show is so dateable. Like you can date exactly when that dub was made just by some of those lines. Like. Yeah. They really go crazy with the jokes. They refer to a certain former president multiple times and I'm, you can see exactly when this was recorded by just that alone. Hmm. I think you missed one of your ongoing, isn't you also watching my happy marriage? Right. That one too. Um, yeah.

[00:10:06] So you have a lot of ongoings right now. You got like at least a good, like six episodes a week that you got to watch. See the worst. The worst part is though they're spaced so badly. Um, cause my happy marriage updates every Monday and then it's nothing all week until Friday where I get a pocket fairy diaries, the show we're going to talk about shortly. Those two. And then today it's Sakamoto days and solo leveling. Hmm.

[00:10:33] It's like, everything's just like clumped together in one like two day period. And then I have to wait the rest of the week basically. Well, at least that gives you time to work on some other shows if you know if you have the time to do it. Yeah. I mean, I've got like five more episodes of ghost stories to get through and then I begin the project. But, um, yeah, it's, it's been interesting. I'm also playing.

[00:10:58] I'm playing a lot of, uh, Mario and Luigi partners in time right now, and I'm steamrolling that game as we speak because I have played that game so often. I know how to break it in half. So. Hmm. I finally, cause like with, with not having a switch, uh, the games that I can play with Xander are limited now. Um, so I decided it's been long enough since the last one. Uh, I finally started a file in black and white.

[00:11:29] Nice. So I'm playing black. He's playing white. Oh, cool. I haven't gotten very far. I like, I'm like about to go into the first gym, but. See the thing about black and white that throws you, that throws me off when I play it is the fact that you actually have to pay attention to the story because it's actually good. Hmm. Uh, that's fair. So, but yeah, I was just like, you know what?

[00:11:53] This is the only one that I got to be like, like game boy DS era of Pokemon games that I haven't played. So I should probably just give it a run through. And it's like, if I'm going to play a Pokemon game, I'm going to want to play like one of the older ones anyway. So. Hmm. Now black and white's worth it. Very much a worthwhile. I always hear. I just never gave it a shot. I don't know why, but I just never did. Wait until you run into English. Grant.

[00:12:22] Oh God. It's the same one from, uh, from golden silver. From a red and blue. The one that can't speak. Um, he speaks broken English when you run into him. Hmm. And, uh, it's implied that his Japanese is fairly bad. And then you meet him in, you know, but which is America, um, in the Pokemon universe. And he's like, he's, he mentions how he was a routine rocket current. And it's like, Oh, it's this guy. Hmm. It's just a funny reference.

[00:12:49] That's like the fact that they even thought of that is just interesting to me. Hmm. Hmm. So yeah, I, I've been kind of dabbling in that. Um, uh, let's see. So yeah, I also watched a couple of movies this week. I watched, uh, Akira finally. Ah, what'd you think of the ending? I don't know what to think. Yeah. It was pretty wild. Which, uh, which dub did you watch?

[00:13:19] Uh, I watched the one on crunchy roll. That's probably the, uh, the pioneer dub, which is. The better one, but also the less funny one. That's fair. So there, there's two. It was interesting. There's two dubs for Akira. There's the original like eighties, uh, streamlined dub, which is the, that's the one where all the memes come from. Actually, this is the way I can tell which dub that you watched. Did you watch the one where Johnny young Bosch plays the main character? Yes. Okay. You watched the pioneer dub. Uh, the pioneer dub was like 2001.

[00:13:48] It was a much more faithful and professionally done dub. Um, which it's a good dub, but it's just not nearly as funny as the original like steam line dub, which is just so dumb. Like, yeah, the thing about the pioneer dub too, that throws me off so much is a Tetsuo is voiced by Joshua Seth. It was the voice of Ty from Digimon and he doesn't change the voice. So you just hear Ty screaming, fuck. And I'm just like, I hate this.

[00:14:18] I hate this so much. Why? That's why I always watch the bad dub just because it's nostalgic and funnier to me. That's fair. Yeah. That was an enjoyable movie. Um, but I don't know. It was like this, the city settings, like it has to be a certain kind of movie for the city setting to really work on me and like, like in a meaningful way. Like the other movie that I watched this week, I feel like, like worked better on me.

[00:14:46] Um, I still enjoyed the movie. It was still good. Um, like, um, the, the, the famous bike scene that's been redone in so many fricking animation projects over time. Oh yeah. Well, it's kind of become the standard. I mean, um, even, um, I remember when I bought all my Naruto mangas, like, you know how like a lot of mangas will have like little blurbs between chapters here and there.

[00:15:11] Um, in the early Naruto manga, uh, Kishimoto like has like these little like segments where he writes about his life and like how he got into drawing and manga and stuff. And he's, he said that like the two biggest influences that got him wanting to draw manga and stuff like that were Akira and Dr. Slump. Makes sense. Cause you can see a lot of that influence in his work.

[00:15:38] Um, yeah, here is a, that is a fascinating film. It's, it's amazing that that movie came out in the eighties. Cause like, it looks so good even today. Oh yeah. It's, it's absolutely gorgeous. Well, like the, especially when you consider like everything was hand drawn. True. I say gorgeous as a choice because that ending, uh, is something. Yeah.

[00:16:03] Well, I mean, you gotta, you gotta look, I mean, this is, it's gorgeous in the way that I call the berserk art gorgeous. Does the South Park Trapper Keeper episode make more sense now? I couldn't stop thinking about that the whole movie. Yeah. Uh, I, I love the fact that that South Park episode is an Acura reference, a Terminator reference and a fucking election reference. Cause of the Bush fucking gore election at the time. Right. There's so many.

[00:16:30] And Rosie O'Donnell dies the same way Tetsuo's girlfriend does, which is really funny to me. That's ridiculous. Uh, the other movie I watched this week though, was, uh, the girl who left through time. I don't know if you've seen that one, but that was, that was a fun movie. I enjoyed it. I've heard very good things about that. It had some, I mean, it wasn't, I don't think as good, but it had definitely had some distinct, like your name vibes. Hmm. So I, I enjoyed that movie a lot.

[00:16:59] And then, uh, I also have started watching Apothecary Diaries. Oh, nice. Nice. What do you think? I'm only like seven episodes in, but I'm enjoying it so far. Isn't the main character great? Oh, she's wonderful. Absolutely wonderful. She gets better. She, she gets a lot better. Like, uh, so by the time this comes out, it's actually, it came out today as we're recording, but with the most recent anime swap is of, um, for a GNC is of that in a free run.

[00:17:28] So we, me and Alex went on for over two hours. Wow. Yeah. Over two hours with no guests. That's crazy. Anime swaps, especially two animes that Alex technically picked. So. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was very impromptu anime swap. I watched both of them when I was dying of the plague. And, um, I was just like, let's just do it. They're, they're similar length. I was like, just do an anime swap. Let's get it over with. Yeah, that's fair.

[00:17:57] But yeah, I'm enjoying it. Um, I still have a little bit ways to go. And I'm trying to think what I want to do after that. I'm probably gonna, uh, I think I might just dive right at a thousand year blood war. Oh, I also watched drama one half remake. Oh, how is that? I still haven't got around to it. Oh, you haven't watched it. I assumed you had. I just don't have time. Another got too many other projects that are on the list first. That's fair.

[00:18:26] Also, I enjoyed it a lot. It's very funny. Um, the action was definitely there. Yeah, it's, it's a. Ranma out of all of Rumiiko stuff is the one I have the least experience with just because it's the hardest manga to really find at the moment. But, um, I thought you had it. I have the first six points. I have the most volumes because I have three, two in ones. Okay.

[00:18:52] Um, I have all of, uh, your say it's Sarah and, uh, me, sun or co. I have both. I have her other series. Um, if I'm going to watch one of her, the other anime remakes, I'm probably going to watch the or say it's her remake first. Hmm. Um, yeah, I'll get to it eventually though. It's interesting that, um, Mappa did that. Yeah, it is. And it's only 12 episodes too, which kind of like a little bit bummed out that it was only 12 episodes because I was really into it. It was really fun. Yeah.

[00:19:21] Especially because the original series is so much longer, but the original series also misses like half the manga. So. Yeah. It was typical for anime of that time. Yeah. And I'm also a little bummed that, uh, I don't think they got Richard Ian Cox back to do male Ranma. I don't think so. I doubt it. Cause I, that would be expensive cause getting a Canadian actors to do a dubs is very not easy. That's why ocean doesn't get a lot of work anymore.

[00:19:51] Hmm. But yeah, um, I think, I think once I, once I finish up apothecary diaries, I think I'm going to dive in a thousand year blood war cause I'm pretty sure the dub is finished on that now. So at least for part three, I don't know if there's going to be more or if that's it, but yeah. Um, all right. So we should probably jump into our new segment for the show. Dime of time.

[00:20:20] Um, do I have fun background music for this? Probably not. Uh, oh, well, we'll, we'll figure that out. There we go. It's random acoustic guitar. Uh, geez. So I, from being totally honest, I kind of forgot about the segment. I did watch it last week, but I, if I remember that we were doing this segment, I would be

[00:20:48] watching it again this morning, but it's okay. Cause it's another episode where nothing happens. So, well, I mean, I wouldn't say nothing happens. Well, Goku fights at a bar. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we, we, we, we kind of get like more like buildup, you know? True. I mean, we get a bit more of the, uh, the new characters, uh, extra. I don't like the acoustic cinematic anymore.

[00:21:17] Um, no, that's annoying. Oh, this one works. Okay. Um, yeah. Um, this is an interesting one. Cause I feel like Dima starts off very slow. Yeah. It's definitely a slow burn. Um, especially considering it's only going to be 20 episodes total. Hmm. I mean, unless, um, unless Toei decide they want to take it further, but as far as like

[00:21:47] the original, like the original plan that was mapped out by Toriyama, it was only supposed to be the 20 episode series. Hmm. Um, so this one starts with what Goku Supreme Kai and glorio like heading to the demon realm. Like they go to the warp summer or, or Lord warp. I guess I call them in the dub. Yeah. And, um, Goku immediately pisses him off. Cause he calls him a goldfish as Goku does. Yes.

[00:22:17] Hmm. And like repeatedly too. Hey, just like, well, uh, a Popeye goldfish is still a goldfish. It's really weird watching this just because like watching the dub anyways. Cause like, I'm so Stephanie Nadal, his voice is so iconic, but it feels weirdly out of place with all of these other like newer actors. Um, it's still taking a bit to get used to, but I do.

[00:22:45] She is, she's slowly getting back into it. Yeah. It's like, like, it's still like very recognizably like the original Goku voice for kid Goku, but like, it's, you can tell like, she's, she's still trying to scrape the rust off. You know? You can tell she's definitely older too. Like age will change your voice no matter. Like I always say like in like Yasha Hime when like, um, the main cast comes back for their cup. You appearances during that show.

[00:23:15] Richard Ian Cox's voice is definitely different as any Yasha, but you can still tell it's him. So it's kind of a similar thing like that. Yeah, for sure. Um, so yeah, they don't really do a wicked lot, do they? No, they kind of go through the thing. They end up at a bar because Goku's hungry. Of course, of course he is. Um, and he was mostly, it was mostly like, uh, just them like on the way. And then they get there and they're like, all right, let's go get a room. You know?

[00:23:45] Yeah. And of course, and Goku's like, I'm hungry. And they're like, you just ate. And he's like, I'm always hungry. And it's, it's weird how he's when he's younger, he's hungrier. I guess it's a makes sense. I guess he's a growing boy. Yeah. Growing like 50 year old boy. Um, something like that. Uh, well, actually no, he's died. So he's probably still in his like forties, but whatever. Hmm. Yeah. He was dead for seven years. And then another year on top of that, the Saiyan saga.

[00:24:12] So he's, he stopped aging for like eight years. Yeah. And his wife got older than him. Yep. Poor Chi Chi. I never really thought of that. Huh? I guess she, she is older than him now. I guess even. Wow. Even with like the years that he gets cut off in the, in the time chamber. Like he's, I think she's still older than him. Unless you include super. I think even by super, he's like a little bit closer to getting back to proper, but

[00:24:41] like, it's still, he's still like technically younger than. Yeah. That's fair. I don't know. Age is weird in Dragon Ball. Yeah. And that explains why she looks so much fucking older than everybody in PT, but. Yeah. So, um, like, how are you feeling about Gloria as a character so far? Yeah. I like him just mostly because I like Aaron Disku's performance, but we still don't know

[00:25:09] enough about him to really have a solid opinion other than he's, he's very much an Aaron Disku character. Like he, that guy is perfect for this role. Yeah. Um, I will say the fight scene in the bar with Goku was pretty epic. Yeah. It was, it just really was like, like, like showing what they can do with this.

[00:25:34] Well, it was, it was very nostalgic watching it because it reminded me a lot of, um, original Dragon Ball. Just the more he had to actually like, you know, fight and not just laser strike charge for five hours and then spirit bomb, whatever he does nowadays. Yeah. I gotcha. I did like the, the whole, the whole, um, interaction between Gloria and the, the guy who like runs the hotel or whatever. Hmm.

[00:26:03] I like the Jews, like very clearly tried to rip them off and he, he's just like, he pulls aside his coat and shows the pistol. Yeah. Like the whole, you know, the whole like kind of gunslingery kind of situation. I like that whole bit. I like that Gloria uses a gun. Like you don't really see characters in Dragon Ball, like use a gun effectively. Well, cause they're like useless. Like when I think of guns and Dragon Ball, I think of the fucking first episode for Bulma shoots Goku in the head and it does nothing. Yeah.

[00:26:33] And it was like, that was, that's basically guns in the show from the start. So it is interesting to see one that actually does something. Mm-hmm. Um, and there will be like some more like other stuff later on, like other, um, weaponry that is actually effective, not necessarily in a damaging way, but it's effective in other ways. The only other time I can think of guns, like actually coming into play in a Dragon Ball episode is like that one. I'm pretty sure it was a gag where Chi-Chi's just packing heat for no reason.

[00:27:01] Um, and she doesn't even do anything with it. I think it was cause, um, I think it was cause she was trying to go to Namek cause she was freaking out. Right. Yeah. Oh yeah. Fun fact. Um, I think those were all Launch's guns too. She just found them. Well, see Tori ever remembered Launch's guns, just not Launch. Yeah. Oh yeah. Launch had a gun. That was the only other thing. And it also did, it also did nothing.

[00:27:29] And Goku got shot a lot during the Red Ribbon Army stuff, but. True. Uh, oh yeah. Also, uh, Alex Dragon Ball Z update. She's gotten to the driving arc, uh, the driving test filler. Um, she very much enjoyed it. I saw the, um, the gif she posted. Uh, Alex also does not like Chi-Chi. As I've discovered. And I'm just like. She's a lot more likable in the manga. It's the anime that really fucking plays her up as just being ridiculous.

[00:27:58] She gets so much better at the end of Z. Like after Goku dies, ironically. Um. And then she gets worse and super. Yeah. Then it's like, she just reverts back to her worst. And I'm just like, great. Well, they backpedal everybody in super. True. I mean, the best version of Chi-Chi is technically non-canon and that's the wedding dress arc. So. Yeah, this is true. Um. My response to Alex though. She's like, I hate Chi-Chi. I'm like, but she's just trying to be a mom. She's like, she's so mean to go on.

[00:28:28] And I'm just like, yeah, he is. But I mean, she's trying to be a mom. Did, did you not talk about the, her chasing the fucking abusive tutor off the property? I think when she texted me, she hadn't got there yet. Hmm. Hmm. But my favorite was her going, what happens to Icarus? And I'm just like, Toriyama forgot. Like, it's not important. Icarus didn't exist in the manga. That's, that's all filler. I know. I just, I love her react.

[00:28:58] She's giving me play by play of Z as she goes through it. And every time she asks a question, my either thing is like, I'm like, yep, that happens. Or, uh, my response is you did see super, you know, what happens here. Mm. But my favorite still is the little green Namekian sounds like Toru Honda. And I'm like, you mean Dende who's in super and kind of important. Yeah. Yeah. But in super, in super he's played by Justin Cook. Well, yeah, he's older by then too.

[00:29:30] But yeah, I don't know. It's, um, I love how we just reverted into talking about Z instead of Daima. Cause nothing happened. It's just like, I'm hoping cause I mean, you, you've told me it gets better. Just these first three episodes are slow. It amps up. It amps up later on as that's playing around with more like different stuff. Like I try to remember if there was any big lore drops in this episode. I don't feel like there was.

[00:30:00] No, other than all the demons were like racist against Goku. Cause he wasn't a demon. I mean, there was a lot of like little like explanation stuff about the demon realm itself. Like they saw the big hole. They were like, Oh, there's a shield there. You can't just pass through the demon worlds. Now you got to use warp to get there and, um, stuff like that. And then their plane gets stolen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, spoiler alert.

[00:30:28] That's going to happen like a lot. I can imagine. They switch planes a lot in this show. Or in some cases don't use them at all. You'll see what I mean. It's pretty. Um, I guess I was going to rate this episode. I'd probably give it like a fix. Like I'm hoping it like it picks up soon because it's very much a buildup episode. Yeah.

[00:30:57] Cause I've the whole time watching. I've just been like, I feel like I should have waited until it was done and then binged it. Cause like watching it week by week is like, it's like a tease. Like you get a little bit and then it's like, no. And you're like, okay, see you next week. We'll see now. Now the Japanese is in the final stretch. They just released episode 16.

[00:31:16] And like, even, um, like the next episode preview, like up to this point, it's always been like, literally just like one little tiny, like one second snippet with an episode title. Um, but the one that they gave for next week's episode yesterday was like, like a 30 minute, I don't know, 30 minute, 30 second, like, like showing a bunch of stuff. So like things are really cooking right now. And, uh, in the Japanese.

[00:31:47] Yeah. Um, yeah, I'll have to see what goes on next week with episode four, which I'll have to watch probably after this. Um, yeah. So that was Dime of Time, our new series. Uh, just a little bit short lived this week, but I think starting next week is when we're going to start getting a lot more like, um, a lot more stuff going on, more lore, stuff like that. Hopefully. Cause it's been just sad.

[00:32:16] Like I've been like, huh? It's like, I feel like I should have waited a little bit, but yeah, that's the downside. But I mean, I had to watch week to week with the Japanese or else I'd get spoiled. And even still like something got spoiled for me, which I really wish hadn't been, but that was my own fault for forgetting there was a new episode. Yeah. Yeah, it happens. But yeah. All right.

[00:32:42] So, uh, our topic for this episode, we kind of, uh, alluded to it earlier. Uh, we actually watched doing another live action movie. Uh, we watched the 2018 bleach live action film. And now, now Bill, you can say you watched bleach. Yeah. I want, I managed to watch something bleach related without falling asleep. So that's a good sign. Cause if anyone wants to know the lore with me and bleach, I've tried to watch it about like 12 times.

[00:33:11] And every time I fall asleep, like after an episode. So. Yeah. So the show that kind of has a slow, especially like that era, like, like that was the point where a lot of animation styles were starting to change. Hmm. So a lot of stuff that came out then, like, even like going back to like the beginning of Naruto was rough. True. And even then actually the beginning of all the three big, big three is, is pretty rough. True.

[00:33:39] And even then, like, I always say like when the big three were going on, I was more interested in the side stuff. So getting up at five in the fog in the morning, you know, the good times. Um, so yeah, this movie is, so when I put it in like the pantheon of live action adaptions we've watched so far, it's not the worst. Um, which is interesting. Cause the worst one, technically I still think is great.

[00:34:08] The death note being the death note one. I think actually the worst one inherently that we've watched so far was the full metal alchemist live action. Yeah. Which is disappointing. The, the, the death note one that's bad, but that's like bad in the amazing way. Like, because they just said, fuck, even trying to be accurate. Let's just do something stupid. Um, and I can get enjoyment out of that. Um, full metal alchemist was just a kind of bland adaption. Yeah.

[00:34:37] It was kind of whatever. It's like they, they, they did their best trying to make, make the story like coherent and kind of fall in line with the, the original, but it just, I don't know. It just fell flat on a lot of ways. And I, again, I also just didn't like, I don't know why, but the, the combination of a big man. I think that's like, I don't know why, but the, the Japanese actor's face just didn't work for me. Oh, we'll get into that with this movie.

[00:35:03] But, um, although ironically, I thought the fact that they got Aaron Discmue to play, um, Alphonse, but it was his older voice. Yeah. I thought that worked. Yeah. I'm really, I'm really, I'm actually really annoyed. They didn't do that for like brotherhood, nothing against the lady that played him in brotherhood. She did a great job as well, but I, I kind of liked his like adolescence voice. He had going on there. I mean, that's fair, but it makes, it makes sense in context.

[00:35:31] I know it does because he wasn't, his voice wasn't aging with him. Like he was technically in stasis. Yeah. His soul at least. I just kind of liked it. I thought it was actually a good voice. Hmm. I mean, like if they had used him for like, like the scene in brotherhood where, where Ed sees his body and in like the gates of truth or whatever, if they had used Aaron Discmue for that scene, that would have worked. Because I mean, his body is aging, but true.

[00:36:01] He did get to play young Hone, Hone, Hone and him. So that was that. But that's true. That's true. But yeah, the, the, the, what I hear to talk about that series. Yeah. That movie was bland. I put the bleach movie kind of on the same level as the Zom 100 movie where it's, it's not like perfect by any means, but at least it ride. And it's, it's coherent enough.

[00:36:29] Um, although it does have some of that, like, there's, there's a few moments in this movie where I watched it and I was just like, what year is this supposed to be? Um, I, I think it's very confused on that. Um, I have one prop I wanted to bring just because every time I saw it in the movie, I was like, fuck yeah. Um, did you remember seeing this multiple times throughout the movie? I don't know.

[00:36:56] This was, this is a record he had on his wall in his bedroom that I, every time I saw it, I'm like, holy shit, bad religion. I remember seeing a bunch of stuff on his, on his wall, but, and I was trying to, I was trying to like peek around and see what manga is he had on his shelf. But I know that like manga design and stuff is different to Japan, like than the releases we get over here. So I, it's hard to tell what he had. It's, it's crazy because like, I didn't even notice that I was distracted by the fucking bad religion album on the wall. Cause I'm like, I love that album.

[00:37:27] Like, but I'm sitting here thinking like, why is it? Why this album? Like this. Yeah. This was like 2004. It's like, well, I mean, that was, that was around the time. Believe like the original bleach anime came out. So true. I just, I never took Ichiko as a punk rock guy. Also the soundtrack isn't punk rock at all, which I just, I just, it was a weird thing. I noticed. I'm like, why is there a bad religion album on this wall? I, I loved the soundtrack for this movie though.

[00:37:57] I thought the music was on point. It's very metal. I do enjoy it. Um, yeah. So by my reference at the beginning of the episode, yeah. Cause like when that song first kicks in, you're like, all right, I can vibe with this. This is a, this is a good tune. And then all of a sudden it ends the ends of the fucking verse with, and all you gotta do is drink all your milk. It was like, wait, what the fuck? What am I listening to? I need to find that song. Japan's fun. Um, yeah. So some things I noticed right away.

[00:38:24] Uh, we watched it dubbed, which I love these live action movies dubbed because the dubs are always hilarious. Oh, for sure. Um, this one was kind of cool cause they got a lot of the cast back, but not all of them, which led to some very interesting observations. Mm-hmm. Uh, I mean, they got Johnny young Bosch back, which to be honest, I'm not sure how I felt about it.

[00:38:45] I, I personally, maybe it's just because I just finished watching the original anime, but I like the actor worked for me in a way that Ed didn't in full metal alchemist. And I felt like the voice and the face fit better. And so the thing that bothered me, and this is, this is a very specific complaint, but I watched a lot of power rangers growing up and I know exactly what Adam park looked like, who was played by Johnny. Johnny young Bosch.

[00:39:16] So I know his face and it's just, it just, my mind was like, no, this doesn't work. Like, like, it's like, that's not Johnny young Bosch. I know what he, I know too well, what he looks like. And it just threw me off the entire time. That being said, the performance was great. Like he did a great. Ichiko, his Ichiko voice is literally like his standard voice. Like he doesn't really change it that much to be honest. Yeah.

[00:39:42] Except for when he's yelling, cause he's got a very like distinct, like, I don't know. Cause I've heard him in a, like, like an outrageous amount of roles. Cause he's just kind of one of those. He's one of those voice actors for anime where he's just fucking all over the place. He's one of those very in demand actors like Steven bloom or Steve bloom. I don't know why I said Steven. Troy Baker. Well, yeah. Troy Baker at this point, Bryce Pat from Brooke is in that Pantheon as well. Matt Mercer, like the big, the big dimes.

[00:40:12] Yeah. So, I mean, I've heard his performance and lots of other stuff. Oh, he said, I mean, he's, he's the main character in my favorite game of all time. So yeah. But he says much in the game itself, but in all the supplying media, he's also the villain in my favorite game of all time. It's funny, funny dynamic. Yeah. But in general, like, I personally feel like there is a distinct difference in the way he plays Ichigo than how he plays other characters.

[00:40:43] And I've noticed that like, that really carries through in this movie. And again, I think it works with the actor that they chose for, for Ichigo. Yeah. There was a couple that matched the, the anime. Like it was Johnny Young Bosch in particular. Stephanie Shea, but she had like 5% to do in this movie. So yeah.

[00:41:08] Orihime was really underutilized or Orihime and Chad were both extremely underutilized in this movie. Had got to do something at least like Orihime just sits there and got a sign. Yeah. Or he may just, and he threw that one guy at the beginning. Yeah. Orihime just has high school gossip the entire movie to the point I didn't realize that's who that character was supposed to be. I was like, oh wait. They also, they also didn't give her orange hair. Like she's supposed to be a redhead. It had slight highlights.

[00:41:37] And I was like, is that who that's supposed to be? And I was like, nah, that can't be. And then they said her name and I was like, oh, that's, I was like, huh? Yeah. Well, I'm just saying like they went out of their way to fucking to dye the Ichigo actors hair. Like why not do it for her? Like they gave Renji fucking like deep red hair. Oh, can we talk about, can we talk about Renji real quick? Cause that fucking threw me off. I didn't even notice that. Oh, I did. Well, cause I just watched the entire series. So his voice is stuck in my head is in my head at the moment.

[00:42:05] Um, Renji, uh, he was recast cause in the, um, in the anime, I think he's voiced by Wally Winger, I believe. Um, in, uh, actually, let me double check on that. Yeah. Wally Wally Winger is his voice in the anime in, uh, the live action instead he's voiced by Richard Cancino. Other known as the voice of Kenshin in the 96 dub.

[00:42:36] And that's all I could hear, but he's like significantly older here. So you can hear it in his voice. And it just sounds like old Kenshin who finally had enough of everybody's shit. It was funny too. Cause he was a redhead. Yeah. And a sword swordsman, but it was, but he was killing people this time around. I was like, wait a minute. Yeah. There were moments where I was just waiting for him to say like his do like one of his goofy voice things. I'm like, no, no, this is serious. Yeah. Yeah. That threw me off though.

[00:43:06] When I heard it. Cause I was like, like that can't be, and I looked it up and like, it is. I'm like, and I'm like, is he in the anime? Cause I might not be able to watch the anime if that's true. And then it turns out. Is, um, Chad's voice. Like I could tell that that wasn't the same actor as, um, as the anime, but I, I, he sounded super familiar. I looked it up and it was, uh, he's the actor who played guts in the 2016 berserk anime. Uh, Kaji Tang. Yeah. Mm. And he's a bunch of other people, but.

[00:43:36] Well, he had a few voices in the series cause he was originally voiced in the anime. He was originally voiced by Mark Warden for the, from episode two to 85. And then he switched over to Jameson price from 86 to three 66. Hmm.

[00:43:52] Um, but in general, as far as like the, the like live action actors, not like, not the voiceover actors, everybody was like pretty on point with like how they were supposed to look for the anime with the exception of like Orihime's hair. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Except Rukia. Rukia was the only one who I thought looked off and didn't really fit. Rukia looked not to, not to be offensive. This is just an observation. Rukia looked like generic Japanese woman, like Japanese school girl.

[00:44:22] Yeah. Yeah. Um, um, also, and they also recasted her voice as well. Yeah. It wasn't Michelle rough. It was, uh, Cassandra Morris, who is, is another pretty high profile actress. It was just a weird, like, cause they don't sound anything really like, um, and she didn't really look like Rukia. No, not at all.

[00:44:43] And that's the thing is like literally every other major character in, in this movie, like actually looked like the character they were supposed to be playing except for her. Yeah. Even like Chad looked, well, other than, uh, uh, uh, the, uh, the other girl, um, she, she also looked kind of generic high school girl, but, um, yeah. Well, that's, that's just kind of a danger when you do these kinds of movies is that that tends to happen. Yeah.

[00:45:09] I mean, also she had like legit, like three lines in this movie. So yeah. And most of them were like, I, I just say like, just, uh, interject here. Like I, I love the running joke where each he goes for average. Like, Oh my God, did you hear a car went through each he goes house. He died on impact. It's just, and he did that joke like three times. Yeah. And every time she buys it. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:45:37] See, it's not watching the show. I was very confused by a lot of this stuff. Hmm. But, Oh man. I mean, all told like, like, as far, I mean, we'll get into like the specifics of the story itself, but I think they did a really good job. I mean, they obviously they had to shift some stuff around and, and, um, uh, there was a couple of things they omitted that I was a little upset about.

[00:46:01] Um, but for the most part, they, they hit all the points they really needed to hit, uh, for this movie. Like, like covering the first arc of the show. Um, I was honestly really surprised with how well they did with, they basically took like 16 episodes and turned it into a two hour movie. Hmm. Um, I'm just curious what this movie has on reception wise.

[00:46:27] I'm guessing not great because they set it up for a second movie and it never happened. This movie came out like six, seven years ago. So, so it got a, um, 67. That's rotten tomatoes. That's not terrible. I mean, I mean, honestly, I feel like it deserves as far as like, like these kinds of movies, like the anime, like live action adaptations, like this one's, I feel like one of the better ones. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:46:53] That's why I said it, I put it on par with like some 100, like it, it wasn't a perfect adaption, but it was close enough. Like there was a lot of, it was pretty much on point. Yeah. And it's one of those things where you could tell, like if they had continued it, it would have improved like with each like successive one, but like with them just dropping it where it is. It's like, they, they could have done a lot more with it.

[00:47:19] I think the problem is we watched the best one first and that just has made everything so much harder to compare. Well, there are other good ones. We're just saving those for later. Yeah, we got it. We got another so bad. It's good one. Like on par with Death Note. And then we got another one that's just objectively good. Yeah. The Kenshin movie though, that one is just like, it's shocking how good that is. And that one isn't even a accurate, it's not even an accurate adaption. It takes up its own twists and turns and manages to make it work. Yeah.

[00:47:49] It definitely takes liberties, but it, it does it with style for sure. Fucking gold Gatling gun. Yeah. I was waiting for that when I watched, cause I watched that before the anime. And then when I watched the end, I was waiting for that fucking Gatling gun. And it doesn't show up. And I was like, damn, well, he uses the Gatling gun. And I just think it's just not solid gold. Yeah. It's not as fun as that thing was.

[00:48:11] Um, so yeah, I mean, it pretty much covered the whole, like, Ichigo, like, uh, well, he meets Ruki in pretty much the exact same way as the anime. Um, and like, they really kind of played their relationship in a very similar way. But I feel like he was a lot more resistant to actually like doing this whole Reaper thing than he was in the show. Um, which I mean, makes sense.

[00:48:40] Cause they kind of have to like, they kind of have to go a little harder to get the point across. Cause they don't have as much time to work with. I will say, I love that scene at the beginning where he's like beating up the fucking punks and he's like, you knocked over the flowers. Like, yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that's actually how he's introduced in the, in the anime as well. It's a very similar thing. Hmm. But I love like, like Chad just comes up out of nowhere and just fucking like throws that dude like a mile. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:49:09] I think that's one of the biggest gripes I have with this movie is it really kind of downplayed Chad and Norohime, but especially Chad. Cause I like Chad as a character. Basically anyone who wasn't Ichigo or Rukia doesn't do anything. It's well, there was the guy with the bow. Yeah. Who are you? Is he also, who also was the, the same voice actor from the anime. Okay. Okay. Good to know.

[00:49:36] Um, which he also played a lot of extras in this movie as well. I noticed. Um, and a lot of that kind of play like, cause in the anime, uh, Renji and Byakuya don't show up until after the whole thing with, uh, where, where, where, who do you like challenges Ichigo and he throws the, the hollow bait, which they didn't explain at all. I don't know if you like caught that. That's what he was doing. No, I had no idea.

[00:50:06] Cause after he's like, Oh, I challenge you, blah, blah, blah. And he pulls something out and throws it off the building. That was, that was like hollow bait. And that's why a bunch of hollows are showing up all at once. Oh. So that was supposed to be the point in the show where Chad norahe may develop their powers and, and become like, you know, more consistent characters, but they just completely throw that to the side in this movie. Yeah. Yeah. Clearly.

[00:50:32] Cause they don't, they don't do anything with like anyone that isn't the main re I guess. Mm. And that third one is he's barely attack on either. Yeah. Um, but I mean, he had his role to play and I think it worked out pretty well. He did. So I like, yeah, for sure. Um, I liked a lot of the training stuff too. Like all that, like, silly things I had to do for training. Um, I was, the sword play in this movie was really good. Yeah.

[00:51:01] It was, it didn't seem fake. Like a lot of movies tend to be. Um, it's interesting watching it. I was like, well, in my head, I really wanted, I have a tiger to start playing in the background for some reason, but it's about right. Um, the entire time I was like, okay, this is fun. Like, this is just goofy shit. And I love my favorite is the scene where they're like fighting sword fighting in the park. And you just see all the people walking by, like, be like, come on over there. Like, yeah. Yeah.

[00:51:31] Especially with the fucking or he may be in like, what the fuck? Like, yeah, she walks over. She's all fucking jealous about Rukia, but like, she's literally just beating the shit out of him. Well, it's funny. Cause she walked over right at the point where like, he's right on top of Rukia. And it's like, this is a, I'm like, I know what's going to happen now. And it's like, sure enough, there she is. This character that's had like no development in this film so far. Yeah. Yeah. That's one of the things that I'm really upset about.

[00:51:59] Cause I, I doubt that this movie is going to get a second at this point. It's been almost seven years. Yeah. Yeah. And it's really upsetting because there's a lot of potential here. This could have, this could have done really well. Um, like if they done as like kind of Kenshin style. It also came out at a weird year for bleach. Like 2018 bleach was like, no one gave a shit about bleach. Yeah. Cause I don't think thousand blood, thousand year blood war had started from like a couple of years. Yeah. That was like around like the 2020s.

[00:52:28] When that started by that point, when the whole, when, when bleach was starting to come into prominence again, COVID happened. Yeah. So it was just a weird like timeframe when it came out. Yeah. Um, and I feel like just people were, cause also bleach was getting a bad reputation by that point. Somewhat. I mean, I definitely think bleached it better over here than I did in Japan. So I'm surprised that it got that level of care in, in, in a Japanese live action movie

[00:52:57] that, than otherwise. Cause there's a lot of other movies, um, that have come out over there that are a lot worse than this one. Uh, the coming to mind specifically the attack on Titan live action movie is absolutely horrific. Oh boy. I'm sure we'll get to that eventually. At some point. I actually, I have it on Blu-ray. Uh, I've only watched this two of them. I've only watched the first one, but honestly, I'm not sure what that is. It's somewhere.

[00:53:28] Yeah. This is unrelated, but I was going through my game collection and I realized I own the freaking attack on Titan game for some reason. Oh yeah. I'm like sitting on like a PS4. I was just going through my, I pulled it. I'm like, why do I own this? Like I was just like sitting here thinking like, I don't even. I mean, at the time I hadn't watched the show and I still haven't to this day. I'm like, why do I own the fucking PS4 game? I was like, you know, it's funny. The second one's on Vita. Yeah. The second one's actually hard to find.

[00:53:58] No, it went up in price a lot. Yeah. Well, I mean, the show kind of got really big, so I'm not surprised. Hmm. Um, uh, going back to what I was saying though, about bleach, like I think cause 2018 was, was around that point where a lot of people, cause that's like when like the anti filler people really started in the, cause anime was starting to blow up. It hadn't really hit its. The crazy peak yet where it is now where now it's just mainstream.

[00:54:27] But, um, I remember a lot of like when you were just getting into anime, you'd ask about bleach people like, Oh, bleach bleach is fun. Like it's really good at points. And then it's absolutely garbage at points and it gets back to being good. And it goes back to being absolute garbage. And I'm just like, Oh, that's a good. Yeah. Yeah. Um, the filler man. That's why we were saying last week, like bleach is in desperate need for a Kai. It's funny how somehow Naruto Shippen in the, the filler in that show is arguably worse

[00:54:55] than most of these shows, but like people just for some reason, I guess it's cause it's it's really easy to skip. Um, cause I guess in bleach, it's not as easy to skip because of it's just all weird, but they're both studio pure. Oh, isn't it? So yeah, I believe so. Um, I mean, they, they kind of, they kind of do it similarly between ship and end and bleach. They've learned their lesson. Cause in, um, they also did black clover and they tried it in black clover and realize this isn't going to work. So they just ended the show instead.

[00:55:26] Yeah. Um, well, I mean, I, I, I forget. Is it the same studio who's doing thousand year blood war? I don't know. I can check. Or I'm not sure if they're, uh, if they stuck with the same people. Or not. Let's see. So that the original series was. Yep. Studio Piro.

[00:55:49] And then thousand year blood war is this doesn't help me. Wikipedia. Yeah. Um, well, I'll look into it later. It doesn't say that's great. Um, well, I'm going to be watching the series very soon anyway. So it's going to have it right in the opening titles sequence. Anyway.

[00:56:17] Um, all it says is it premiered on TV, Tokyo. Okay. Fair enough. Um, so yeah, I love the, I love the scene in the movie where like, um, I think like, or he may want to go, like, I think it was actually when she caught them while they were training. It's on a different Wikipedia page. It was studio Piro. Okay. That's good.

[00:56:44] Well, I guess they did learn that lesson then because they're doing that in parts like specific seasons. Um, because nowadays people don't, you don't have to keep it going because people will, people's interest is very different these days and people will wait. Yeah. I think the big three was like, like, that was like the big thing where it was like, okay, we need to start doing a seasonal anime. Like we just like do a certain story arc or like part of a story arc and then just put

[00:57:11] it down and take our time with it and not just make up random shit. Yeah. With varying levels of quality. Yeah. Cause not everyone can do, do a full metal alchemist. Yeah. And make it somehow work. Mm hmm. Um, yeah. But yeah, the scene, uh, I think it was the one that we were just talking about where, uh, or he may catch them like, or like they fall on each other or whatever.

[00:57:39] And like Rukia like sits up and she's like, Oh, greetings fair. Or he may. He's like, what the fuck are you talking like that? Yeah. I said, the best part of that scene though, is like, she doesn't react at all. Like they, she just stands there while they're having this whole monologue. And then she's like, okay, see you later. It just walks off. And I'm like, yeah, right. Jesus Christ. They couldn't afford that actress to do anything. I guess. I guess. I mean, maybe she's a big name or something. I don't know. Maybe they could only afford a certain. I mean, Stephanie.

[00:58:09] I mean, even acting wise Stephanie is kind of expensive. She's like one of the main, I meant the Japanese actor. I know. But yeah, like a lot of the fights were done really well in the show or in the movie.

[00:58:26] I'd rather actually, I felt really blue balled because the fact that we're not getting more of this when we actually saw the, like how, how Renji's Shikai work. That's what they call like the awakened form of the swords. Um, like they did that really well. Like, is it like the whole, I don't even know how you describe that. The kind of like, Oh, for lack of a better term, the slinky sword.

[00:58:56] Yeah. I don't even know what you would call that, but that's what I'm going to call it. The slinky sword worked really well. And the effects were done really well. And this movie that had like, like a lot of movies like this, uh, tend to feel kind of claustrophobic. Like no matter where the setting is, like movies, like to this degree generally tend to feel like kind of tight and cornered. And this one felt a lot more open to me. Like it didn't feel like any, like the, the settings were changing a lot.

[00:59:24] And even though it takes place in a city, it didn't feel cramped. I will say the effects were pretty good except for the, the monsters. I thought the monsters all look goofy as fuck. I, well, that's just what hollows look like. I thought the effects themselves for the hollows were decent. The, the weird, like, uh, the, the, the last one that, the, that they fought. I forgot the name of it. The green picture. Yeah. That one was okay. The spider looked dumb. I won't lie to the spider.

[00:59:54] I was like, yeah, the spider was dumb. Uh, but actually that one was supposed to be, or he may say, like, or he may was supposed to fight that. That was how she was supposed to awaken her power, but. Oh no. Instead, he just wails his sword at it. Yeah. But, um, yeah. The Grand Fisher was done really well. And that was actually like, all that was. All that was consistent with the show. Like that is actually the hollow that killed his mom and all that other shit.

[01:00:23] Um, I do like the scene where like, he's about to fight it. And then his dad shows up and she's just like, go to sleep. And she's like, you can take a nap for a little bit. Which is really funny. I'm just going to tell you because I know you have no intention of ever watching the show to like fully, but it's actually really funny that that happened because his dad turns out is actually a soul reaper. Oh.

[01:01:13] Oh. And he's like, you know, I don't know if he's like, just a substitute like he is, or if he was like a legitimate soul reaper from the soul society. Or, and just like dipped like, um, like we're hard did who also was severely and tragically underused in this movie. Uh, the guy with the hat. Yeah. Yeah. He showed up for like a few seconds and then left. He's just like, Hey, uh, you're going to get the death penalty for this. And she's like, well, I better not get caught.

[01:01:43] And then like literally the next scene is just like, Hey, Rookie gave her powers to the human. We should go kill her. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's, I'm not great at explaining like what was any other particular scenes you want to highlight or. Um, I don't know. I mean, there was a lot, like there's a lot going on in this movie.

[01:02:10] It was actually, it was a really busy movie, but like not in a way that was overwhelming to me. I was surprised. I like for considering how, uh, violent bleach can be. They, they really did not do a lot with the blood in this movie. No. Uh, well, I mean, they did a little bit towards the end when Bianca just absolutely wrecked EGO. Yeah. And even then that was fairly, that was like rated T like level.

[01:02:34] Uh, the most blood you see in this movie is that when you get the little flashback to his mom being dead and she's just coated in blood. And I was like, Oh, that's there's the bleach. I know in love. Yep. Or no and tolerate. No, I know it. I am aware of its existence. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I'm trying to think if there's anything in particular I want to highlight.

[01:03:05] I mean, there was a lot of like silly stuff that we could talk about. Like, like for instance, anytime fucking rookie whipped out that glove. Was just goofy. Like it was fucking, I don't know if it's just like Japanese acting or something. Cause whenever, like, whenever you see like a Japanese actor running. At least for me, like the movies I've seen, it always looks goofy as fuck to me. It's like in Star Trek Voyager that one scene where they had Kate Mulgrew running. It was like, this is why she never runs again in the series. Yeah.

[01:03:32] But like, I just feel like that scene, like what, like when, uh, when Uriyu tosses the, um, tosses the, the bait and then Rukia bursts in. It's like, Oh, there's hollows. I gotta, you know, do the thing. And she runs towards him and fucking like smacks and smacks him out of his body. I feel like that scene would have like that scene. And every other scene was done. That would have been more effective. She just walked up to him and did it. Like, no, he tries to do it super dramatic. And it just does not land at all.

[01:04:01] I also, the way that actress like delivers her lines in the Japanese, basically, uh, Cassandra Lee Morris had to fricking like talk like super speed at times to match the lip sync. So like her acting was all over the place at times. Yeah. Yeah. Which is inherently just a problem with dubbing these movies. Cause you're either going to get that or you're going to get them just the lips don't match at all. And it's awkward. It's, it's going to be awkward either way. Cause dubbing these things is just.

[01:04:31] I will say the, the, the like physical actor for Uriyu, like looks exactly the way I would have imagined a live action version of that character looking. Yeah. That was like perfect. Um, but yeah, I mean, aside from that, like the ending, like, you know, Ichigo gets his shit stomped and, uh, weirdly enough, Rukia takes her powers back at the end of this movie, which isn't how it happened in the show.

[01:04:57] Uh, she just kind of left while Ichigo was laying there bleeding out to go get executed. And, um, I mean, technically Ichigo loses his powers at that point that he has to like regain them, but it's not, doesn't happen the same way. I was wondering about that. Cause I was like, wait a minute, how does the show work? Cause well in the show, it was like, cause you have a thing called the soul chain.

[01:05:23] And once it's like, it's hard to explain basically like souls have like a soul chain that come out of their chest. And if that soul chain is severed and you're alive, you'll die. And if it's severed while you're dead, then it just kind of like eventually corrodes. And once it's gone, like that part of your chest was connected that goes away. And that's how you become a hollow.

[01:05:52] Uh, um, so the way they explain it in the show is by Akia specifically cut that. And that was why he was like laying there dying. But, um, the guy with the hat shows up and saves him and is like, okay, I, I have this way that we're going to get you to regain your powers and you can go and save Rukia. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, but this movie kind of makes it seem like she's not actually still going to be executed after the fact.

[01:06:19] Yeah. The ending was very ambiguous because it says someone who hasn't watched the show. I was like, how does it go on? It's just so weird though, because it's like, that's one thing I'll say is like the, the whole, like, uh, Renji and Byakuya thing. Like it didn't make any sense because they were just being like, Oh, just kill him. Just kill him. Just kill him. And that's just like, well, okay. Well, if you just stick around for like two months, dude, we can get him strong enough and everything will be fine. Like it's not a big deal.

[01:06:48] And if it, if it's a thing where we can just wipe his memory anyway, like what is the big deal? Like, why are we freaking out about this? It's not, not that big a fucking deal. Did, did she have that sudden like change in personality at the end in the anime as well? Or was that just to wrap up the movie? That yes. Uh, but that was because Byakuya was just going to straight up kill him. And that was kind of her way to be like, I'm just going to go with you.

[01:07:16] I'm going to pretend that I'm with you on this. And, and she's basically just like, Oh, he's going to die anyway. Just leave him there. You know, let him have his last few minutes of life. And then they leave. And then the guy with the hat shows up and saves him. And so it was, you know, it was just kind of a way to, uh, a ploy to give him more time and hopefully survive. Yeah. I feel like it's weird.

[01:07:39] The ending to me felt like they were planning a sequel, but then at the last minute they changed it to make it ambiguous enough that they could just kind of make it be like, this is also could be just a standalone ending. Yeah. Well, I mean, the very last line of the movie made it very clear that they, they were definitely leaving it open for a sequel. Yeah. But they didn't explicably. They didn't. It wasn't like a cliffhanger ending. It was just kind of a, it could happen. Yeah. It's just like, Oh, he, he won't remember me. I think. Yeah.

[01:08:09] It wasn't because nothing's worse than like when they're so confident about it. It's not like the Mario brothers movie where it ends with like this, like, we'll see you in the next adventure. That's never going to happen because this movie is a fucking dumpster fire. But, but I don't know. All in all, I thought the movie was very enjoyable. Like, especially if you're a bleeds fan, it's definitely worth a watch. I managed to watch it without falling asleep.

[01:08:34] So that's already a plus for me because bleach is just bleach is how I try to go to sleep when I'm tired when I can't fall asleep. It's an honorable distinction in the pantheon of anime. Yeah. No kidding. Um, also totally unrelated note. I, I don't know why I just noticed this, but all the MCs for the big three wear sandals. You're right. Isn't that weird?

[01:09:04] I don't know why I never noticed that before. Also only one of them's voiced by a man. Yeah. Yeah. I just thought about that. Cause, uh, Naruto has always been Mally Flanagan. And then, uh, Luffy is Luffy. Luffy is Luffy. Luffy is Luffy. And then Johnny Youngbosh over there in the corner. The one that's considered to be like the worst out of the three. Yeah. Well, I mean, well, no, they're all still going technically.

[01:09:35] Yeah. Technically. Well, I mean, Naruto has been on hiatus for, or Boruto has been on hiatus for a bit and will likely remain. So for at least a good few years. True. And even then let's face it, he hasn't been the main character of that show. So true. Oh, uh, by the way, um, I don't know if you knew this, but the, the, they released more dub for Boruto and Shippuden on Hulu. Oh, did they?

[01:10:05] Yeah. They got all the rest of the Boruto dub. And, um, there's only 15 episodes at the very end of Shippuden that they haven't put on there yet. Oh, so the fun, the fun after the war shit that like no one ever watches because it's not the stuff that happens after the last that I really enjoyed. Well, honestly, I'm just happy that the fucking, I can actually watch the war dub. Like I'm going to be like, sorry, Cindy.

[01:10:32] I know we're watching Naruto, but you know, I I'm, I'm watching Shippuden because I don't know when they're going to decide to say, Hey, fuck you. We're getting rid of it. So I need to watch it dub while I have the chance. Well, I think Disney has the licensing rights for it right now. So it should be fine for a while. Yeah. We'll see who lose always been fucking weird about that show. Yeah. I mean, I have all the physicals, so I'm not worried, but at some point I'll have to steal those missing episodes from you.

[01:11:03] That'd be a lot of ripping. Yeah. But I mean, 13 episodes is a 12 or 13 episodes set. Like depends on the set. So and I have, I have, I have up to like a little bit into the war. Like I have like up to like the point where they seal away zombie asthma. I think that's where my depth cuts off. Okay. So yeah, it's all. And even that point onward.

[01:11:31] I still remember when the war ended, like, like when that dub first came out, because that was like a big deal at the time. And then now Bardo's already fucking over crazy. Well, kind of. Well, the, the anime is the first part of it's over anyways. So. Which is weird because they, from what I understand, they cut the anime off before when it was well, before they got to Boruto part two in the manga.

[01:12:01] So I don't know how they're going to handle that when the anime comes back, but. I'm sure it'll involve several filler acts. Well, hopefully not because there's plenty of them to work with at this point, especially if they're going to be waiting like four more years to come up with any more anime. They have plenty of time to fucking build up a backlog. True. But this is, this is Studio Perot doing Naruto. They need, they need like seven filler arcs in between everything. Ugh. Yeah. But they're also doing thousand year blood war.

[01:12:31] So they, they know what works and what doesn't. They should know. They should learn. They do, but it's, but it's, but it's Naruto. They have to put, it needs the filler arcs. Some reason. It's bullshit. Naruto is the one who needs them the least. Now I'm sorry to all the one piece. And, and bleach fans out there, but I personally feel like Naruto has the best story out of the big three. I know I might get some hate for saying that, but like beginning to end, like as far as like, and.

[01:13:05] I mean, it's hard to say like a show that, that big and expanding is the best just because it's big and expanding. And, and, and, and it has like that kind of level of, I mean, maybe the one piece will change it. I don't know.

[01:13:29] Maybe the one piece will be the thing that kind of like breaches that gap for me, but it just takes too damn long to watch one piece for me to be able to say it's the best. And I can't even say that Naruto is any like that much better, but when you cut out the filler from Naruto, it's significantly shorter. And hell bleach is only like fucking. If you cut out all the filler from bleach, it's like 200 episodes, which isn't that bad. Yeah.

[01:13:57] I picked the, I picked the easy one. But aside, that's a very easy watch. I'm just saying, like, I personally feel like Naruto has the best, the best story, the best buildup, the best reveals. It does. I think it does the best with the amount of considering the amount of characters it has. Like it manages to do, it manages to tie everyone's stories off. Barely. Cohesively.

[01:14:28] Hmm. Not everybody granted because like some characters just kind of like some of the characters in Bardo are just like, and this is where they are now. And it's like, oh, how'd this happen? We still don't know who Rock Lee impregnated. He spawned him. He just one day another one appeared and it was like, ah, just like a little son. That's my theory. Anyways, that's a guy did to need to Lee. And that's what Lee did to metal. Just spawned a new one.

[01:14:58] It's like, ah, you are my son. Yes. He just went and found an orphan. It's just like, yes, you. I like, I like the idea that it was osmosis. He just made another one. You know, it's funny too, because like, we never saw anything about Lee's parents either. So it's like, is Lee and metal just like an enigma? This is like, they just exist. This is my headcanon. They just, they spawn out of nowhere.

[01:15:28] Let's see what it is. It's Lee spawned from a rock and then other Lee spawned from like steel. And that's where that name's come from. We're going too deep into this. Yeah. So that was the bleach movie. I gave it a solid seven. Like it didn't convince me to watch bleach.

[01:15:56] I will say that, but I'm not as good as not as good as the Kenchin movie. Well, cause that was just so good. It made me actually want to know. That's fair. I still think the Zom, the Zom movie was probably better, but yeah. Well, I mean, they were also working with less material. Like, like the Zom movie was about the same length, about two hours. Right.

[01:16:24] And it covered about six episodes worth of material. So it pretty much covered two hours worth of material in two hours. Yeah. So, I mean, they, they could like put that together much more cohesively. With the bleach movie, they kind of had to jam pack a lot more in there and a lot of stuff gets left on the wayside because of that. True. True.

[01:16:48] So it's just kind of like one of the things that, yeah, any movie that tries to pack that much into it is going to suffer. That's just how it is. Yeah. It's just one of those things. And I think with this one too, it was just so jam packed that they didn't really, unfortunately, I just feel like it was one of those things where it just wasn't going to stand a chance in the, the, the error. Especially with the timing. Yeah. The timing of it.

[01:17:15] Because even if they were planning on making another one COVID happened just a couple of years later and that seriously put the kibosh on a lot of projects. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And especially for a movie that was only just considered okay. Mm hmm. Um, I'd probably give it a slightly bigger rating, maybe like a 7.5, just because I've, I recently watched bleach and I have the, the comparison for it.

[01:17:43] And it's actually, while actually being a decent coherent movie, it also follows along with the plot very well. So yeah, I give it, I give a slight bump for that, but yeah, I'd say it's about the same. I don't have the nostalgia for it. So I just kind of was like, it was good, but it didn't like, it didn't really sway my opinion on the source material at all. And I love the soundtrack. The soundtrack was great.

[01:18:08] Soundtrack was, I mean, I think I got way too excited about the fact that there was a bad religion album just chilling in the background at one point. But, um, I think it happens to be the fact that I just really liked that album. Um, it to go seem as a type. It just, it threw me off. Cause like anytime he was in his room and I just saw it there, I was completely distracted by whatever the, like the scene where he's talking to Rukigo in the inner, in his closet. I have like that religion album in the background. I'm just like singing the song in my head the whole time.

[01:18:39] Oh, geez. Uh, but, uh, yeah. So that was a, it was a good chat. Uh, I think we only talked about the movie for like 30 minutes, but we talked about a longer than we did for Dima. So that's something true. Very, that's just, that, that's just how this show goes. We jump around. Yeah. We'll set up our topic and then we'll, we'll get sidetracked. Then we'll jump back to it. It's fine. Yeah, it happens. We still got more of a conversation out of this than we did about death note.

[01:19:07] You know, it's funny is I think we've talked about the death of the movie more outside of the episode we did on it than we have in the episode. Well, it's cause it's fun to reference, but like talking about it in like a sitting is, is harder because it's like the movie itself is such a mess that you're always like, you're trying to remember what happened. But then like when you're just thinking of the funny things, you can be like, yeah, like when he gets stuck in the classroom or a fucking Ferris wheel bullshit or some other stuff like that. Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

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