Geek Addicts - Episode 29: Let's Talk About Naruto!

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[00:00:09] Welcome to Geek Addicts, the pop culture podcast.

[00:00:35] Hello and welcome to Geek Addicts, the pop culture podcast where we talk about, oh lots

[00:00:46] of stuff pretty much nerdy stuff in general, it doesn't really matter.

[00:00:50] My name is Matt with me is the number one not going to hit a podcast or Bill Barber.

[00:00:56] How you doing Bill?

[00:00:57] I'm talking.

[00:00:59] I'm very tired.

[00:01:01] I feel that.

[00:01:04] I saved this every time we podcast.

[00:01:07] Well, we do it on Friday night so it's kind of one of those assumed things.

[00:01:13] We're not, I mean, we're both still technically in our twenties but we're also at that point

[00:01:19] in our lives where that kind of doesn't mean much.

[00:01:23] We're in the final countdown, like that's going to be ending very soon and I don't like it.

[00:01:29] For me, especially, I'm only like two months away from 30.

[00:01:34] Actually, little less.

[00:01:36] I don't like it.

[00:01:37] Not a fan, but I just want to step closer to retirement, which is what I'm really looking forward

[00:01:45] to be.

[00:01:46] Yeah, but here's the thing.

[00:01:47] Every time we say that the goalpost just gets farther and farther away.

[00:01:51] True.

[00:01:52] This is true.

[00:01:53] But I'm also really looking forward to being like, you know, a grandpa that watches anime.

[00:02:00] True.

[00:02:01] And plays like video games that shit.

[00:02:03] Like our generation is going to be like the funniest grandparents.

[00:02:08] True.

[00:02:09] Very true.

[00:02:12] They come over here and watch Dragon Ball with me.

[00:02:15] Here's the thing, it's called the 3D.

[00:02:18] Yeah.

[00:02:20] If they still work by then, it's got, yeah, I don't know about that.

[00:02:25] Back in my day, we played the PlayStation 2.

[00:02:29] Well, we had Spaniards.

[00:02:30] I was going to make a joke about cartridges but we've kind of reverted back to cartridges again.

[00:02:35] Yeah, kind of.

[00:02:37] Well, it's kind of funny how like Nintendo pretty much a stubborn about staying on cartridges

[00:02:44] for a long time.

[00:02:45] And then we had the mini disks for the GameCube and then we had regular disks for the Wii.

[00:02:52] And I think the Wii U and then it is one back to cartridges.

[00:02:56] So the GameCube had mini DVDs.

[00:03:01] We had not DVDs because they weren't technically DVDs but they were basically DVDs.

[00:03:08] And then the Wii U had not libraries.

[00:03:13] Which is why you couldn't play movies on either of those.

[00:03:16] So you can actually mod a Wii to play DVDs.

[00:03:21] It's kind of fun.

[00:03:22] Well, I'm sure you can mod it to do that.

[00:03:25] Because there is a DVD drive in there.

[00:03:29] You use it because Nintendo is annoying.

[00:03:33] In 60.

[00:03:35] The N64 was crippled from the start because it was in a disk-based system.

[00:03:40] You're here.

[00:03:41] They're already going to be like later this year.

[00:03:43] It's a pose of Lincoln releasing this switch too.

[00:03:46] They say that but I believe it won't.

[00:03:48] Yeah, it's supposedly.

[00:03:51] It's going to be in time for the Christmas season.

[00:03:53] I'm like, no.

[00:03:54] I'm good man.

[00:03:55] I got plenty on the regular ass which to keep me busy for years and years.

[00:03:59] Like I don't need another one.

[00:04:01] Like, I'm going to graphics would be nice and all but like that's not my priority.

[00:04:05] Unfortunately you're in the minority on that opinion.

[00:04:08] Even if they're not a lot of people really want the switch too.

[00:04:11] You know what?

[00:04:12] I just bought a PS5.

[00:04:13] I'm not trying to buy another console.

[00:04:15] Because if I buy a switch too, I'm going to buy a switch too for myself and my steps on.

[00:04:19] Which I'm not doing.

[00:04:21] You're thinking of this logically.

[00:04:23] Most gamers don't think with logic.

[00:04:26] Yeah, well.

[00:04:27] They just think of I have to own.

[00:04:30] I'm happy with my PS5 for now.

[00:04:33] I got my my multitude of handhelds.

[00:04:37] I got my my DS, my 3DS, my switch, my beta.

[00:04:41] And I got a multitude of consoles as well.

[00:04:44] I got my Xbox One, I got my PS5.

[00:04:47] I have some older systems.

[00:04:49] Zandas got the GameCube and his room.

[00:04:51] He's got the N64.

[00:04:52] Like I'm sad.

[00:04:53] I got plenty of consoles that you've got.

[00:04:56] That's true.

[00:04:58] But going to my room.

[00:05:04] I think we mentioned it like a couple weeks ago, but I'm going to my high school union this weekend.

[00:05:11] Oh really?

[00:05:13] With a tomorrow or.

[00:05:15] Well at the time of this when this episode comes out.

[00:05:18] It already have passed, but um.

[00:05:21] Yeah, it's going to be a tomorrow or a bit.

[00:05:24] There you go.

[00:05:26] See how it goes.

[00:05:27] What like the 10 year.

[00:05:29] We're celebrating 10 years.

[00:05:30] We're technically almost 12 years because of COVID.

[00:05:33] But that's fair.

[00:05:36] Oh God.

[00:05:38] I don't even think my I don't even think my class did every union.

[00:05:42] And we're we're past.

[00:05:46] I think this year.

[00:05:47] This year is 12 you actually like right now is 12 years.

[00:05:51] Yeah, I think that.

[00:05:53] Like to be honest, it's like it's one of those things where they like your.

[00:05:58] The schools don't don't unlike contrary to popular belief the schools don't set these things up for.

[00:06:04] But the classes they the classes have to set them up themselves.

[00:06:08] Yeah, why I mean, I think we talked about that a little bit before but like.

[00:06:12] I just like later down the line.

[00:06:16] Yeah, I understand reunions but like five years 10 years for me personally in the age of social media.

[00:06:26] It just doesn't seem like.

[00:06:29] necessary.

[00:06:31] It's it's different now it is I will say five years I don't get a 10 years I understand like a decade is enough time past where.

[00:06:39] I feel like meeting up with people you haven't seen in that long.

[00:06:42] I believe me and something.

[00:06:44] True.

[00:06:45] Um, well, I say I don't even know if my class is one I don't think I would get it invite anyway because I'm on the yearbook.

[00:06:53] Um, apparently if you don't submit.

[00:06:58] If you don't like do like a specific sign up for a specific like photo for it.

[00:07:04] Like they don't just use the school photo for it.

[00:07:07] You have to go and get a separate photo taken outside of school.

[00:07:11] And you don't do that you're not in the yearbook.

[00:07:14] I didn't realize that until it was too late and at that point it said bucket who cares.

[00:07:20] So I don't care about most of these motherfuckers anyway.

[00:07:24] I'm really good in my yearbooks chill it over there.

[00:07:28] I ironically like for us like we had to do the same thing yet to go and get professional photos taken.

[00:07:35] Um, and I found out specifically that you were only supposed to pick like a specific head shot to be in the book.

[00:07:41] But we completely ignore that and pick like this fancy shots of my picture is like wayfing and seeer than everyone else's.

[00:07:48] Oops.

[00:07:50] But um, yes, but apparently like if you didn't get a photo taken, you're, um, you are still listed under like not pictured.

[00:07:59] So you're still technically in there.

[00:08:02] No, I have a copy of my yearbook. I'm not listed at all.

[00:08:06] Oh, they didn't do like that.

[00:08:07] They're not in my name.

[00:08:08] Nope.

[00:08:09] Did they do like not pictured?

[00:08:12] I guess not because I'm not there.

[00:08:14] Well, there's a couple like I'm technically there's a couple of pictures of me.

[00:08:18] But like they're not it's not in like the list of students.

[00:08:21] It's like the big like you know well, spirit week over here and these are these, these, the CTE kids.

[00:08:29] You know, like there's a couple of me. Like there's a couple of pictures of me like the automotive section and this one of me and like one of the big like collages, but it's like literally like the tiniest, 80,

[00:08:40] Bitty picture sandwiched in there of me dressed up as Goku for superhero day.

[00:08:48] We never did we didn't have superhero day. We had the boring ones like twin day which like that.

[00:08:55] The fuck is twin day.

[00:08:57] You dress up like someone else basically two people dress up the same and pretend to be twins.

[00:09:02] That's yeah, I know that's really dumb.

[00:09:09] We had I think we had a happy like you know the dumbest ones like that everyone does.

[00:09:15] Oh my favorite though was I think it was I think it was a superhero day and there was this kid that used to hang out with Tyler and he dressed up like Russell Crowe from South Park.

[00:09:24] He literally carried a house plant around with them. The old day.

[00:09:31] That's good for the great that guy that kid was a riot.

[00:09:34] My favorite was like decades, decades, day where everyone dressed up as a different decade and I dressed up as a like a 19 like 1900s prospect here.

[00:09:44] You know what's really sad? What is that kids now have those kinds of spirit week like theme days about power.

[00:09:54] Generation. I'm aware.

[00:09:58] Like I saw this thing today that really depressed me and it said that we are now as close to 2050 as we are at a 1990.

[00:10:07] Yes, I don't like that. I'm not a fan.

[00:10:12] We're getting to a point now or like why mean like if you want to feel really old like Lincoln parks first two albums are both 20 years old now.

[00:10:22] Yeah.

[00:10:26] Have you lived? You want to feel really old listen to the classic rock station. You're going to be shocked what some of the bands that play on that station are now.

[00:10:34] I believe it. I believe it.

[00:10:37] I mean, I hear songs like the late 2000s on like throwback days in shit. I'm like that's not that old like we're not old. I swear.

[00:10:46] I mean we're getting it's almost to the point where 2015 was 10 years ago that just doesn't feel right.

[00:10:54] Yikes.

[00:10:58] Yeah, so we're old and we do podcast that's the new thing now is all the all the millennials do podcasts now.

[00:11:07] Yeah, because what else are we going to do?

[00:11:09] That's probably social.

[00:11:12] Well, no we're not in a social we just don't like seeing people in reality true that's why I mean yeah, COVID but like no contact delivery is a thing you know

[00:11:23] I mean leave it on my doorstep is a thing no contact delivery was something that should have existed before COVID.

[00:11:32] Yeah, well, it's never going to go away now.

[00:11:35] It's one of the best things that came out of that like period of time true.

[00:11:45] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:11:47] Time is weird.

[00:11:51] Yeah.

[00:11:53] Yes it is.

[00:11:55] Speaking of things that are old.

[00:11:58] See what I did there.

[00:12:00] I was talking about Naruto this episode.

[00:12:03] Surprisingly older than I thought.

[00:12:06] I think it was pretty old.

[00:12:09] I mean,

[00:12:11] 99 right? Yeah.

[00:12:13] That's that's old than any I think any Yashik came out the same year.

[00:12:18] Really I thought in a Yashik with older some reason.

[00:12:21] Now, but you're not just not as old as people would actually I might be completely wrong.

[00:12:26] Give me a second year.

[00:12:32] Oh no, I'm thinking of the anime came out in 1999 well 2000 so right around there.

[00:12:36] I was 96 which not that much older.

[00:12:41] See, I know it.

[00:12:46] So I guess I'll kick it off.

[00:12:48] What's the year for us to experience in Naruto?

[00:12:50] When did you first start getting into it?

[00:12:54] So it's kind of sad.

[00:12:57] Naruto was.

[00:12:59] I remember my first experience with Naruto was.

[00:13:02] Who knew me would show ads for it like 24 seven back in the day like on Cartoon Network.

[00:13:09] These are my hair at Thons a lot.

[00:13:11] Oh yeah.

[00:13:13] And it was one of those shows where I'd see it and I'm not going to lie the first time I saw it.

[00:13:17] I thought the main character was annoying as fuck.

[00:13:19] Oh, he's super.

[00:13:21] I've actually been watching.

[00:13:23] I've been to the starting at with Cindy.

[00:13:25] We're on the cheating exam right now.

[00:13:27] And God, dear, Lee episodes are so hard to get through now.

[00:13:31] So keep in mind at this point, my anime experience was.

[00:13:36] Sailor Moon, Ronin Warriors, Dragon Ball and Inigashah.

[00:13:41] All of which have generally not annoying protagonists.

[00:13:47] Depending on your thoughts on Sailor Moon or Kagome.

[00:13:52] But in my opinion, generally not annoying for a tennis.

[00:13:57] So when I see that the new hot anime is Naruto and everyone will shut up about it.

[00:14:03] And I watch one episode and I'm like, I don't know about this one.

[00:14:07] This guy really annoys the shit out of me.

[00:14:09] Yeah.

[00:14:11] It wasn't the easiest for me to get into.

[00:14:14] I won't lie.

[00:14:16] And I kind of casually observed it or most of it's run.

[00:14:23] Because so I'm thinking about it like in terms of release.

[00:14:29] So let's do a little research here, real quick.

[00:14:34] The anime debuted in 2002.

[00:14:38] So that's actually newer than I thought.

[00:14:41] Yeah, I see I think I could be mistaken, but I think Naruto was the first anime to experiment with CGI.

[00:14:50] So this makes it significant way.

[00:14:53] This is even more crazy.

[00:14:55] The US English dub didn't air until 2005.

[00:14:59] That tracks because I didn't get into it until they were already on the tuning exam.

[00:15:05] And I remember specifically being really into it because, well, first of all, because just like the whole concept of the power system and stuff,

[00:15:12] I thought was really cool.

[00:15:14] But also because I was the same age as the kids.

[00:15:17] Yes.

[00:15:19] So that kind of had it's I want to peel to me.

[00:15:22] This is why I was confused because any yash, I'm just going by what I watched at the time.

[00:15:26] In any yash's first episode aired in the US in 2002.

[00:15:31] So right after when Naruto was starting in Japan, okay.

[00:15:35] Okay, so that explains why like,

[00:15:37] Naruto, I think Naruto came out around the point where I was kind of losing interest in anime.

[00:15:43] Okay, that makes sense.

[00:15:46] Other than like the couple that I was into, like I wasn't like,

[00:15:49] That was like kind of where my fur at the end of my first expansion period ended.

[00:15:53] Where I kind of,

[00:15:56] Any yash was about as far as I was going to branch out.

[00:16:00] That's that point.

[00:16:02] So yeah, Naruto was a thing, I remember because like you, you legit couldn't watch cartoon ever without seeing it.

[00:16:11] 24, 7.

[00:16:13] Yeah, it was really pushed.

[00:16:15] It really was and they, they, I still remember all the ads with Tom, like fucking like, I've been it up.

[00:16:21] Not genami and it's all Tom.

[00:16:25] I always say like, I like the animation like to this day, it still is a great looking show.

[00:16:30] And I do like the character designs for the most part.

[00:16:33] I mean, Naruto's outfit is still stupid, like I always be on the side of part of that.

[00:16:40] His later outfit isn't that bad, like the ship it in, out that the ship it in,

[00:16:43] and I particularly like the last and the blank period his blank period design, which we won't be getting to.

[00:16:52] I, we should preface this, this episode we're specifically talking about original Naruto.

[00:16:58] So the everything before ship it in.

[00:17:01] Yes, although I will say before we, before we move completely away from ship it in,

[00:17:06] His, the outfit he had in the paint arc is is topped here out that my opinion.

[00:17:11] That one's good, that one is really good. I mean, I like his current design in bar out of two, which is essentially just a reverse of his blank period design.

[00:17:20] Yeah.

[00:17:21] I don't like his new haircut though.

[00:17:24] I'm okay with it, but.

[00:17:26] Although I guess I like him more than Garra's, but we'll get into that later.

[00:17:30] Garra's is just stupid.

[00:17:33] Garra just like what the gut is haircut by like.

[00:17:35] Every, every like child's first hair cut basically.

[00:17:40] It looks like the kid that he, that you give new views to on the friggin on the playground.

[00:17:45] It's like he cut it short and just slick it over.

[00:17:48] Yeah.

[00:17:52] So yeah, for me.

[00:17:56] Yeah, I had to have been around like 2006 or so that I started getting it because I remember specifically.

[00:18:01] I started watching what they were on the forest of death.

[00:18:07] That was, that was with a point where the dub was at when I got into it.

[00:18:12] Luckily for me, that was still the time period where they were doing Naruto,

[00:18:17] Myrathans like at prime time, Cartoon Network all the time.

[00:18:22] So I managed to, you know, it was easy enough for me to catch up on all the earlier episodes.

[00:18:27] You know, to me what was like I think what hurt me getting into Naruto at the time, the hardest.

[00:18:34] Was that?

[00:18:36] The episodes I happened to see were ones that were really focused on team seven.

[00:18:41] And I found Naruto really annoying initially.

[00:18:45] Sosuke was just edge lord to the max at the time and, um,

[00:18:51] the soccer, that's saying no more.

[00:18:54] Yeah, even somehow more annoying than Naruto was at the time.

[00:18:58] But a Kashi was cool.

[00:19:01] Like I'd pay attention to Kashi because I was like the only character that didn't annoy the fuck out of me at the time.

[00:19:07] I will say years later, I would discover there was other characters besides those three and they were all much more interesting.

[00:19:16] Yeah, Naruto, that's one thing about Naruto is it has such a huge cast of characters and like you don't meet a lot of like you kind of meet like their peers at the beginning of the show.

[00:19:28] And then it quickly pushes them to the side because it wants to really put some focus on team seven introducing them and establish them,

[00:19:36] giving them a little bit of development to start out before they start really mixing with other teams.

[00:19:41] Yeah, but yeah and they're all very distinct too like you know like a an important character versus just a regular ninja like the regular ninja is the ones that actually look like ninjas.

[00:19:57] Yeah those two guys.

[00:19:59] You know who I'm talking about.

[00:20:01] Yeah, those two guys.

[00:20:03] You type it into Google and you will find the two people you were thinking of right away.

[00:20:07] Yeah, the guy with the face tape and yeah.

[00:20:11] Well to me any any not like every ninja that's not important is just those two guys.

[00:20:17] And like no matter what you're thinking like you can type in those two guys from Naruto and you will find who you're thinking of it doesn't have to be the gate guards it can be like anybody you will find it is the funnier thing ever.

[00:20:29] Well, see I just starting out.

[00:20:32] So what was the first episode that like really caught you with Naruto?

[00:20:39] The first one that I really remember was actually.

[00:20:44] Believe it or not it was sasuke getting the curse mark.

[00:20:48] You know it's funny you say that because that pretty sure the first episode I saw was the episode where he weren't that curse mark like first activates and he breaks that do exams.

[00:20:55] See I remember that one I remember specifically with um I'm brain farting his name.

[00:21:06] The other one.

[00:21:08] Or a roachie maro.

[00:21:10] I always remember the scene of him actually like his head going all snake and him actually giving sasuke the mark.

[00:21:16] Like vividly sticks in my head.

[00:21:19] Funny enough is I think I think we left off.

[00:21:23] My wife and I the last time we watched we left off like right.

[00:21:29] Before that I think it was like right after Naruto burst out of the snake and showed up in saved sasuke.

[00:21:37] But before he like he read the fight really starts.

[00:21:43] One thing I'll say is I love a lot of the choreography in Naruto.

[00:21:49] It's like there are very specific episodes that I could point to that are like the choreography and like the the pacing of fights in certain episodes are vastly superior to others.

[00:22:02] One in particular this stands out in my mind is the episode with the three sonning fight like right after Naruto gets knocked out from fighting in Kavato and when.

[00:22:14] I'm a warrior.

[00:22:17] Araya Sinate and Guru Chimaru start their fight like full on like that the animation of that and the choreography is perfect.

[00:22:24] Another one is actually remember the title of this one.

[00:22:28] Naruto's Ninja Handbook when he's fighting Garra.

[00:22:31] That one's really really well animated well choreographed fight.

[00:22:36] Just not whole episode is perfect.

[00:22:40] The whole tune in the exam fights were all super awesome to like I still remember.

[00:22:44] We had a bunch of great fights and that like Naruto versus a Kiva because he fights on him.

[00:22:52] Yeah, that was a that was a moment we also had a in order versus.

[00:23:02] Negi that was an interesting one.

[00:23:05] The fight that made everybody angry.

[00:23:08] Well he's dead and that you was such a prick early on.

[00:23:10] Yeah, no kidding.

[00:23:13] I run it too because like he didn't he didn't seem like that much of a prick until that fight.

[00:23:19] Like up until that point like he definitely seemed like a Saskate type but like not to that extent like not like far and away beyond like the kind of asshole that Saskate is.

[00:23:32] I will say it's something that a kishimoto has brought up like a lot especially nowadays where he like.

[00:23:41] He tried so hard to make soccer very likable and interesting character that he ended up hurting her more in the long run.

[00:23:50] Um meanwhile like everyone gravitated towards Hinata because I always say like, cannot a story was way more interesting probably because he didn't appear all that much.

[00:24:00] But also like when she did appear like this sub fucked up shit going on there.

[00:24:06] Oh yeah, well like that that's one of the things about like the inner machinations of the different clans and how they interact with each other how like they're standing in the village like there's so much going on just there alone.

[00:24:20] Yeah because it's obviously we don't learn it.

[00:24:23] I was gonna say like they betrayed the um.

[00:24:26] The uh.

[00:24:27] She a clan is the evil ones, but I don't know that the hugers are pretty evil too when you really think about it.

[00:24:33] I mean they all kind of have their like their shitty sides really except for the nara's then ours are all great.

[00:24:39] The nara's are great and the uh it was a machie's but they're all dead except for one yeah well.

[00:24:45] Yeah to directly.

[00:24:47] You don't see the other.

[00:24:49] I don't think she.

[00:24:51] Until way later.

[00:24:52] Now the only other is in machies don't show up until ship it on yeah and they're both bad.

[00:24:59] To be a fleet bad.

[00:25:02] Well I've been to what time I guess that's the thing about nara to is like all the villains are debatably bad.

[00:25:10] Also like the whole theory behind.

[00:25:13] Nara literally like eat wins every battle with the power friendship.

[00:25:18] Yeah, talk to you too.

[00:25:21] People make that joke but you watch the series you like holy fuck it's true.

[00:25:26] Yeah.

[00:25:28] Is that could that could be a drink and game on its own as how many nara how many times nara to a meets a villain he goes oh my god he just like me.

[00:25:36] Every time every time.

[00:25:39] I have we had to do the same childhood.

[00:25:42] And yeah I will say like that's another thing like.

[00:25:46] You don't learn all of it in original nara to but like the more you learn about nara to back story is the plot goes on the more you realize fuck.

[00:25:55] He's annoying but you kind of get out.

[00:25:58] Yeah, this kind of a reason why he is the way he is and I guess you get to the same what's ascede but like obviously sasky goes in a very different direction.

[00:26:06] Well the difference is nara to like both of them had eat well it's funny because nara had an awful childhood sasky had a decent childhood and then like both of them had kind of events that just completely ruin their.

[00:26:19] Lives essentially just a different time periods and nara to manage to come out of it.

[00:26:25] Better because of the people who were around him meanwhile sasky had nobody around him and basically.

[00:26:30] Pushed away anybody that could have helped him and that's why he becomes the way he is.

[00:26:37] So obviously so we start out we we we meet our main characters they got to go through their little training and stuff.

[00:26:48] And then we we jump into the the bridge arc.

[00:26:52] And I think this is while I definitely think.

[00:26:59] That first arc is rough at points.

[00:27:03] Because at this point the animation is still pretty choppy and something I've noticed going through it again with my wife recently.

[00:27:12] A lot more than I used to especially when you compare it to newer anime is the animation that the beginning is very.

[00:27:19] Very early early 2000s like it's like when you go back and watch a original dragon ball and like you watching you go it looks good but who you can see that it's definitely 80s anime.

[00:27:31] For sure.

[00:27:34] But but as it goes on you start to get to some of the later parts of that arc and it definitely improves a lot especially with certain scenes.

[00:27:45] And then we meet our our first set of debatably bad characters obviously Zabazai is.

[00:27:52] He's pretty bad but he kind of gets not a redemption at the end, but.

[00:27:58] sympathy I guess or empathy.

[00:28:02] Towards his story that's the one thing about kishimoto is he is very great at making compelling characters.

[00:28:12] The problem is he also has a horrible tendency of killing off compelling characters.

[00:28:17] Yeah and that that was one of those things when Haku died it's just like such a gut punch especially the way he dies.

[00:28:26] Haku is the I'm trying to remember is he the one where they they'd make the joke about that he looks like a lady or is that a different character.

[00:28:37] Yeah so when we're now just like oh my god he's pretty good in Sakura.

[00:28:40] Oh yeah I remember because his first appearance it's he's only like somewhat like androgynous looking but then they've re-animated that scene later for the flash.

[00:28:48] And they made him way more feminine looking than he was originally and I'm like well they also had him walk out into the woods in a pink kimono when he first like meets Naruto without the mask and it's like.

[00:29:01] They do exactly what they were doing there.

[00:29:04] True the his set that the flashback of that scene though is like oh my god they just went all out on it.

[00:29:10] For sure like he's got the lipstick and eyeliner on and it's like oh my god.

[00:29:14] Mm-hmm.

[00:29:17] But that was those are really interesting arc and those are very good starter villains I will say.

[00:29:24] Because they really effect like okay because Zabazawa who's like the hard like he's you know blood misdivillage.

[00:29:33] Rogue ninja and then you have like the sympathetic.

[00:29:38] tragic backstory Haku and this is a formula that we're going to be going forward with throughout the entirety of Naruto.

[00:29:50] I think like one of my just best ways of describing like this whole series is basically anytime something happens I'm always like steep man.

[00:29:59] For sure.

[00:30:01] Yeah and Naruto's got a lot of really dark moments it despite being such a lighthearted like goofy show.

[00:30:08] It is a violent anime too a lot of people don't realize just how violent dreams even ship it in this and the manga I mean more so.

[00:30:20] Not shipping and I'm at the original series like even the event will series was super violent for no reason.

[00:30:27] Oh yeah and the manga itself is is so much more so.

[00:30:32] Yeah that a lot of those moments where you like like first it's like well when when Naruto does his battle of pain when he he frees his up versus those first couple of inches that attack them on that arc.

[00:30:44] He and he's definitely self in the hand.

[00:30:47] In the manga that that Kuna goes straight through like it comes out the other side.

[00:30:53] Yeah and it is similar other things later on like for instance.

[00:31:00] During the tune in the exam when she know is fighting the guy with like the air gun things in his hands.

[00:31:09] Yep I like the air pressure things.

[00:31:12] When he clogs up the his little hand holes.

[00:31:16] Um and like the pressure needs to escape or whatever in the anime just kind of like.

[00:31:23] Like kind of like it's like puncture wounds almost like the pressure built up and there's like punctures and that like you just got like holes in his arms.

[00:31:33] And the manga his arms literally just blow the fuck off like his arms are gone.

[00:31:38] Yeah.

[00:31:40] Even even the way she know has his his bugs like in the anime it just shows like he has like three holes that they just kind of go in and out of and it makes it seem like those are just permanent fixtures in his body.

[00:31:52] In the manga they literally burst through his skin every time.

[00:31:56] Like fucking Wolverine.

[00:31:58] Yeah she knows she knows due to his fucking disturbing not so many.

[00:32:04] It's one of the most interesting ones but holy fuck it's terrifying.

[00:32:07] Yeah certainly creative but like it's on some Junji each other shit.

[00:32:12] If that was the juits who I got I'd probably fucking kill myself because I would not want to deal with that.

[00:32:18] No kidding.

[00:32:20] I'd rather be in a dog clan thank you.

[00:32:22] Can they adopt me?

[00:32:25] Yeah yeah.

[00:32:28] The juits who's are all really interesting that's like one of my favorite parts about um.

[00:32:32] No, Rado is how like every character is actually kind of got a unique gimmick that actually does something.

[00:32:39] Yeah and this sort of such a diverse amount of different kinds of of techniques and and juices and styles and.

[00:32:50] I mean even just that the main characters main power is making more of himself.

[00:32:56] Oh that's also that's an interesting thing.

[00:32:59] I love the irony to have like um.

[00:33:02] Nardo starts off like he can't clone himself for shit but then like he later because Nardo is like the is like the definition of overcoming.

[00:33:11] Overcoming your your weaknesses.

[00:33:15] He ends up becoming probably one of the strongest like people with cloning that the.

[00:33:20] Yeah takes his takes his weakest technique in charge it into his specialty and that's really Naruto when I'm not.

[00:33:29] Yeah it's actually refreshing rewatching and you remember just help with that Ignardo kind of was at the start.

[00:33:35] Oh for real.

[00:33:37] Especially in the moment.

[00:33:39] I was going to say especially considering like.

[00:33:42] I'm not going to say soccer because.

[00:33:45] Soccer's useless but.

[00:33:48] At least in the first show.

[00:33:50] In the first show that she's incredibly useless.

[00:33:53] Unquestionable.

[00:33:55] Especially compared to Sasuke who just has like.

[00:33:59] Holds powers out of his ass I swear sometimes.

[00:34:02] Like just sucks with soccer because like they set her up like she had so much potential like she was like the best in the class.

[00:34:08] She had the best chakra control.

[00:34:10] She had all these things going for her but then they never annoying is fuck.

[00:34:15] Yeah for real like like nails on a chalkboard like get this bitch away from me.

[00:34:21] Right.

[00:34:23] I mean it's like the whole.

[00:34:26] Obsessed with Sasuke think that's whatever to me.

[00:34:29] Why was she such a bitch to Naruto all that I get he's annoying to like she took it like too far at times.

[00:34:36] Because she's spoiled and that's one of the things that was like one of the biggest like early defining moments for Sasuke was when she is going out like literally making fun of him for having no parents.

[00:34:48] And you'd think with how obses she is with Sasuke she would know that he has no parents.

[00:34:55] And then she might you know choose her words a little bit more carefully in that scenario.

[00:35:00] Like it's aske just like no you suck like Naruto is way better than you like for like right off the bat that's one of the first things Sasuke says no series you suck.

[00:35:13] Like Naruto sucks too but you suck worse like.

[00:35:17] I also love the irony of the fact that like the only reason Naruto likes sockers because sockery like like socky.

[00:35:25] And he has the one up Sasuke on everything.

[00:35:28] Yeah pretty much I don't know the Naruto's weird obsession with that sockery I've just.

[00:35:34] It's just a funny sense to me that why would you like her if she's such a.

[00:35:38] It's it's just it's just it's you realize it more in hindsight it's it's all because he's trying to one up socky.

[00:35:47] Once because you notice like later on like once that whole thing kind of stops being a thing he thinks stops being interested in her pretty fast.

[00:35:56] Yeah.

[00:35:58] So yeah we get through that whole arc without going into much detail and there it starts the tuning exact tuning exam arc which is like.

[00:36:08] The first big.

[00:36:11] Spralling arc.

[00:36:14] Which is going to introduce a trend of bringing in lots of new characters.

[00:36:19] Yes because even just even just among like very immediate leap village peers.

[00:36:27] Like you meet a lot of them just in that arc alone.

[00:36:31] Well that was the big reveal too that like oh yeah there's more villages than just the leaf village.

[00:36:36] So yeah out of like the you know the three other teams like which one do you tend to gravitate to the most and like what are your favorite characters out of them.

[00:36:52] I mean especially like especially in the early episodes.

[00:36:56] So out of all of them team 10 is by far the most interesting but that's probably mostly just because of Shikumar.

[00:37:04] Yeah I think Shikumar is like the unofficial seven like team seven member even though he's part of his own team.

[00:37:11] Which is hilarious because an in ship and he just fucking steals teammates teacher and that's they just.

[00:37:17] He may just fucking pieces to be a thing during ship it in but that's that's the point.

[00:37:23] Yeah.

[00:37:26] Yeah, I like team 10 because they generally tend to have also their whole gimmick is just interesting because they're basically this.

[00:37:34] Team that's like eternally these three clans are just always together because their powers work so well together.

[00:37:42] They're interesting.

[00:37:44] I mean I love team guy just because how can you not look guy and broccoli.

[00:37:49] Oh yeah guys can say he's he's one of the best characters in the whole show.

[00:37:55] And I mean I love team it's funny there's like one character from each team that I really enjoy like obviously like team 10 you like Shikumar.

[00:38:03] Team guy you like broccoli team team eight kind of gravitor gravitate towards anata and then.

[00:38:11] Sevens obviously the main team so.

[00:38:14] Yeah.

[00:38:16] I don't know what I mean.

[00:38:18] What with the exception of.

[00:38:21] The he not a fight in an aruto fight I liked Negi a lot growing up.

[00:38:28] Especially once you get in the like the Saskia retrieval are kind of stuff when when you start to really like see his development this stuff.

[00:38:35] I like Negi a lot during that period and especially because I like I like the concept of the Bianca gun is just a really cool.

[00:38:45] You know magic eyes and that's something that are going to go away anytime soon in our show magic guys like the whole thing.

[00:38:53] My favorite is to mean that the way I work in in Nardo is there literally just like ball of it's he just was down but it.

[00:38:59] Yeah okay.

[00:39:04] But yeah the.

[00:39:06] I'm not going to lie.

[00:39:08] I.

[00:39:15] We interrupt this for for a sudden news and.

[00:39:20] This joke was funnier my head anyways.

[00:39:23] Um.

[00:39:25] I was going to say like one of the things that.

[00:39:30] I'm actually interested in your thoughts on this we bring up the Bianca gun.

[00:39:34] In the manga they literally are just like white eyes so it looks like they just like have like.

[00:39:39] White circles for eyes obviously in the anime that wouldn't work so they made them like this kind of like purple.

[00:39:48] Like light purple color.

[00:39:50] What sort of interpretation do you prefer.

[00:39:54] I I like it when when they're just like white because that it kind of gives you that like subversion of expectation where generally.

[00:40:02] Generally, especially in animated form or or and any sort of cartooning in general.

[00:40:11] You see white eyes and you think why.

[00:40:15] But the Bianca gun is the exact opposite it's actually eyesight to the point of x ray vision 360 degree vision like you you can see everything within a radius around you.

[00:40:28] And you have this one tiny blind spot right at the back of your head.

[00:40:33] I think I think that was just like a development I think that's something that you can work past with training and stuff.

[00:40:41] Um.

[00:40:43] Because I think that is something that he eventually fixes.

[00:40:47] And he's the only one that ever is really called attention to.

[00:40:51] Like you never see anything like that with any other he is.

[00:40:55] Yeah, because he not a doesn't get her massive development until ship it in and all particularly like the very end of ship it in.

[00:41:05] Because I cannot it is the strongest you go and by the end of the story but like.

[00:41:12] You don't learn much about her in regular narrative unfortunately.

[00:41:18] Right.

[00:41:20] Let me just make sure my volume is turned down.

[00:41:26] Um.

[00:41:28] Yeah, it's how it's.

[00:41:31] It's hard to quantify honestly because there's so many different different characters in this in this arc and it means it just like you know the good guy character so this beat.

[00:41:42] So.

[00:41:44] I just want to point out real quick that like in the show.

[00:41:49] Um.

[00:41:50] When they first meet guy and rock Lee and all them and they see guy and they're like talk about him or talk to him and they're like oh my god this is all guys going on about you and all of those stuff and just want to point out that.

[00:42:05] We're older than he is.

[00:42:11] Other time is just coming for us again.

[00:42:16] And it's just one of those things like when you're watching as a kid you don't think of it that way.

[00:42:20] I think you're all the things to caution out at that point right.

[00:42:24] Yeah, because cacachian guy or believe it the same age.

[00:42:28] Also cacachian guy or my favorite dynamic in all of Naruto.

[00:42:32] Oh for sure for sure.

[00:42:35] I mean, I don't really get to see it a lot of it until ship it in but true.

[00:42:39] Um, yeah, like the whole concept of them being rivals and when they first meet guy and he's like oh we fought 100 times and I've won 51 times and he's won 49 times.

[00:42:49] I mean, I think it's just great because cacachian would win all of those if he cared but he just does care.

[00:42:57] Yeah, well that's also the fact that like you know he's like alright let's do another contest cacachian like what are we going to do this time.

[00:43:05] Rocked or scissors, I guess like it literally was one of them like so it's like it's not like they're actually fighting each of these times it's.

[00:43:13] Literally just like I don't know I guess we'll run to the store and back.

[00:43:19] He just got a time think of some bullshit because just feel like aren't all peasants this time.

[00:43:26] Excuse me, I will say out of every character in the entire series cacachian is definitely the reason I liked watching the show because he's just such a fun character.

[00:43:36] He was definitely the initial draw if cacachian wasn't the way he is like as a character.

[00:43:45] I don't think as many people would have been drawn to the show at the beginning because as we mentioned before, Naruto and soccer were incredibly annoying and Sasuke was just stoic and moody.

[00:43:59] So what's the whole lot to work with he.

[00:44:03] Sasuke is like, was like the original internet edge lord back in the day where he's just so fucking edgy it's not even funny.

[00:44:12] Sasuke is the character that started at all when it comes to edgy.

[00:44:18] And make characters I'm not going to say that there haven't been edgy anime characters before that but Sasuke modernized and popularized it.

[00:44:25] That in the combination we are now, but I'd say that combined with Yuri low in thals performance because I love Yuri low in thals as an actor but I forgot just how fucking like ridiculously over the top he was in fucking original narrative.

[00:44:42] What's the even like when I was talking earlier about how soccer was going on about, oh, and Naruto is going to know parents, this and that he's all alone.

[00:44:52] And then you just see Sasuke brooding looking off of this it's going alone.

[00:44:56] I salated.

[00:44:58] You have no idea how it feels like he's like a god like you really just bringing in an 11 and lord right off the bat like I love I love.

[00:45:08] I love how you were like this close to going full Batman right there.

[00:45:14] But that's the way he is though and it's so fucking over the top and ridiculous but.

[00:45:20] I mean he does get better but then he gets worse and it's just.

[00:45:24] He gets better than he gets worse than he gets better and it's more.

[00:45:28] I love Sasuke when I was a kid.

[00:45:30] But it's like looking at it now it's like oh my god these fucking kids.

[00:45:35] Sasuke is literally like the person where like that's like who you want to be as a kid and then you grow up and you realize that was me as a kid.

[00:45:43] Yep, you grow up to become.

[00:45:46] Gosh he just hate everything or it just are indifferent to everything.

[00:45:50] No I the older I get the more and more identify with Shikomaru.

[00:45:56] He into like they're.

[00:46:01] Shikomaru a lot of toys yeah especially like I.

[00:46:05] Modern and his modern version of himself.

[00:46:10] Like I saw.

[00:46:13] I saw like a video mean a little bit ago and it was just as seen just straight up seen from original Naruto and it was Shikomaru wakes up.

[00:46:27] It looks the clock it's like I don't know like 550 nine or something like that.

[00:46:32] And then it takes up to six and the alarm starts going off.

[00:46:37] And he's like.

[00:46:39] Fuck why didn't I even set an alarm if I was going to wake up before it.

[00:46:42] And now you have to sit here listening to it.

[00:46:45] And if it's just kind of keep going unless I get up and turn it off but I really don't want to get up.

[00:46:50] And it's just like that scene was just so.

[00:46:54] Like I get I get it dude yeah.

[00:46:58] It's it's like that meme of like there's another meme that's really relatable of it's a Kakashi waking up and he's like oh no I'm late for school.

[00:47:07] I think goes oh wait I'm an adult and then it got some going oh no I'm a teacher and then he goes alright I don't give a shit and just comes back this sleep.

[00:47:16] It's like yeah I really it's one of those I don't know I just I like I watched all three of the big three ultimately at this point.

[00:47:27] And Naruto was the one I identified with his a kid and it's still the one I identify with now it just like the characters just make just feel the most real in that show.

[00:47:38] In I have three I like yeah in hindsight rewatching it like now is an adult I kind of see like realize now that it is a much tighter written show than I initially thought and.

[00:47:53] You have to get through the early periods of annoyance but like once you actually get the way once it picks up it picks up fast.

[00:48:01] The only downside is we haven't barely brought it up yet but Naruto especially ship it and but even original Naruto is probably one of the most infamist cases of filler in anime.

[00:48:15] Yes I will say one of the reasons why I tend to.

[00:48:20] Kind of champion the first series over ship it in.

[00:48:23] Is because it at least had the decency disabled the filler for after the cannon stuff.

[00:48:29] I mean there's a few exceptions here and there like throughout the couple.

[00:48:34] Yeah a couple one shot episodes there was like one three episode filler arc between between I think the senoting arc and the and the Sasuke arc but aside from that there really wasn't much and and that's something it definitely.

[00:48:49] Definitely has going for it especially when you compare it to its direct sequel.

[00:48:54] I think they had the benefit to it because the manga started in 99 but the animated start till 2002 they had a couple years worth of stuff written so they didn't have to.

[00:49:06] They had enough to work with right off the bat but of course eventually they caught up.

[00:49:10] Yeah and one thing I really liked was that like the way that the shows are portrayed suppose you could say like the lens you look at original Naruto through versus ship it in.

[00:49:28] Like you're kind of seeing it through the perspective of the kids.

[00:49:34] Because in the first series there is all this stuff going on in the background that will eventually come to a head in the follow up series and you see pieces of it throughout the first series but until you see the big picture you don't really notice it.

[00:49:48] Yes like for instance there's a scene where.

[00:49:53] You see Kakashi at the memorial.

[00:49:59] And I think he was talking to Asuma about.

[00:50:04] About Sasuke and just super like download in passing like Osmo is just like isn't for Ubito and that's the only mention of Ubito throughout the entire first series but like that is such a loaded statement when you know the whole story.

[00:50:24] Yeah like like so like you can't even really fathom how important that one line is.

[00:50:33] There there is so much foreshadowing in this series like.

[00:50:38] That's why this is a fun show to watch because you notice so many things that you missed the first time around.

[00:50:45] And then like even like something as simple as why is a rojumara so obsessed with with Sasuke specifically.

[00:50:52] Well it's because he tried to go after itachi and find any touch you've wrecked him with no effort.

[00:50:58] It's actually was itachi was such a fun character when he first showed up.

[00:51:04] Oh yeah because you were meant to hate him when he first showed up and then as everybody knows ship it and explains what actually happened.

[00:51:12] Like one of my favorite things is like you there's the meme words like you start the show hating you kashi and i mean not hating itachi and then by the end of his storyline you end of loving him.

[00:51:25] Yeah it's actually is probably the best right in character like the best story for a character.

[00:51:33] I still can't get over when the one of the first times he appeared the flight against him where.

[00:51:41] Who is a teammate teacher.

[00:51:44] T a but forget her and I.

[00:51:48] When a current I tries to use Gidju to on a on a touching it fails, Mr. Flea.

[00:51:55] Yeah don't use Gidju to want any uchi a little loan one of the strongest ones.

[00:52:02] The guy who's specialty is Genju to.

[00:52:07] To the point where he created his own space time the fucking what's the uchi i called again it's the uh the charring on the shark the shark.

[00:52:22] The shark guns are literally just like.

[00:52:24] The fuck you power of the series because they literally just told shit out there ass all the time.

[00:52:29] For real, that's why i've always said like yes i am a massive dragon ball fan boy everybody knows this about me.

[00:52:37] But if you ask me if you get any one anime super power over to be it's charring on every time.

[00:52:46] Even even base level of sharen go like no mon gaki over to god no no that shit that just basic ass like.

[00:52:55] First series cacashi sharen go like just you know the visual aspect of the process of visual information being able to copy anything you see perfectly like that alone is such a useful power.

[00:53:12] The fricking sharen gone is one of my favorites too because it's like it is such a potent power that it can literally use it to budget it full blind you.

[00:53:22] Oh yeah well i mean that that's like the higher level.

[00:53:27] But yeah that's that's a whole thing in itself.

[00:53:31] Speaking of sharen gun like one of the biggest like reveals is because cacashi famously has.

[00:53:39] One i covered by his headband at all times what we sure reaction when you heat the thing off and you saw he had a sharen gun.

[00:53:48] Um honestly it's hard for me to quantify good as I say the the first episode i saw was the curse mark when he brings the guys arms and so i'll skate ahead his sharen gun at that point so.

[00:54:05] I was already aware of it.

[00:54:08] Um but i i don't think i fully comprehend it how important it was at the time.

[00:54:17] Because even when like when he reveals it and and so she's like oh that's supposed to be only my clan that has that like i don't know why i just couldn't like.

[00:54:27] Couldn't really process that at that age.

[00:54:31] Um so i had seen that scene for the first time at much a much older point and i i just remember being like so confused because i was like.

[00:54:41] I didn't understand that like you can just transplant eyes it will in this series.

[00:54:46] So like when i saw that was like what the like how.

[00:54:50] Ninja magic it gets from obviously when you find out why he has the sharen gun later on it it.

[00:55:00] It's nuts that's all say i think a cache probably has the most tragic backstory in the whole series it's up there like his guy wants to talk until he meets the kids.

[00:55:12] Yeah it's kind of funny how many characters in this series have terrible fucking lives.

[00:55:16] Hmm.

[00:55:22] Like i think i'm a kind of a kind of thing yeah like neggy had a terrible life.

[00:55:27] Um in order to like kind of sucked for a while there.

[00:55:31] Um Narcos life really sucks excuse like kind of sucks.

[00:55:36] Joji was just lonely.

[00:55:39] Well team 10 honestly team 10 probably they.

[00:55:42] Their powers are just interesting to me because the way that they design them.

[00:55:47] Hmm for sure she can Mars powers still cool just like shadow manipulation.

[00:55:54] Yeah i always liked that too but i love how like i know this is technically she put in but i love how when they're like explaining like the different um.

[00:56:03] Like chakra types and stuff like that like elements and all of the stuff and characters like well wait how the hell does the shadow stuff work.

[00:56:09] And just to where i want we're not gonna talk about that.

[00:56:13] Just literally just present the side so you're not gonna use that anyway.

[00:56:18] Yeah yeah that's it.

[00:56:23] So how did you feel about like like a roachumara was first introduction like when he first shows up man he's he's in his disguise and then eventually your views himself the be who he is and.

[00:56:38] Like maybe you don't really know fully the effect he's gonna have on this series going forward but he definitely hasn't a staying.

[00:56:46] Um introduction.

[00:56:49] I found him creepy to begin with so he was very effective right off the bat.

[00:56:54] Um i knew for a fact he was gonna be more important than he he was letting on to.

[00:57:00] Um and he didn't he kind of like let that air of like this guy is not going to be easy to get rid of that is the understanding of the show.

[00:57:13] Yeah he is literally a cockroach that should have been the animal he basins off well for a week.

[00:57:19] I mean even after he stops being a.

[00:57:23] Quote unquote threat he's still around.

[00:57:27] Yeah.

[00:57:29] Um yeah cause.

[00:57:32] I don't know you so like.

[00:57:35] Like I thought he was gonna be like a much more consistent like like I thought he was gonna be like so be better and if this first show yes he was dubbing bad.

[00:57:45] Yes it's what you are seeing the full scope of that is not even close.

[00:57:49] It it it's funny how he kind of falls off as ship it and goes on.

[00:57:55] Hmm.

[00:57:57] Although it as I get older I start to understand his motivation a little bit more.

[00:58:03] We just like no I just I just want to live forever so I can learn all the things experience all the things it's just like I get it.

[00:58:11] He's in terms of villains to me he's like the most one of the more interesting ones because he's the only one that's really just in it for himself he doesn't have a greater scope.

[00:58:21] Um like a lot of the villains later on have.

[00:58:25] Yeah.

[00:58:27] Because Oshima was whole goal is pretty much just self absorbed.

[00:58:33] Yeah he just watched a learn all the things that's it.

[00:58:37] Yes this is when education goes wrong.

[00:58:41] This is what happens when you give someone way too much free time.

[00:58:45] Yeah no kitten.

[00:58:47] That he's voice five freaking Steve Bloom.

[00:58:49] It just makes it even better.

[00:58:51] Yeah no kitten.

[00:58:53] And he really goes buck wild but that role too.

[00:58:56] Yes he does.

[00:58:58] What are the situations where like if you know you know, but if you don't know then you could easily go through it and not realize it's deep blue.

[00:59:10] I mean, I guess we can talk about voice acting like this fucking voice cast in if it in I mean not should it just not are to in general is.

[00:59:18] I mean, it's fucking stacked.

[00:59:21] Like if you look up the IMDB page for Nar I'm not the behind the voice actors like page for Narado you will recognize pretty much every voice actor from one place or another.

[00:59:34] I agree I think the least interesting voice in Narado is probably Narado himself.

[00:59:40] Natalie Flamagan because I think she this is like her only animate role.

[00:59:45] And you know, it's interesting is like this is at a point in time where a lot of the animates we were getting on to Nami were.

[00:59:53] Funnamation products and the Narado is specifically one of those one is that isn't funnamin in fact that there's only a handful of.

[01:00:02] Funnamation actors that play characters of any real importance like keep up being one of them.

[01:00:10] Yeah, I'll be there.

[01:00:12] And it's just it's very few in part between in that series.

[01:00:17] I mean there's a few like freelancers who will go back and forth like Stephanie Shad is she does work up for both all the time.

[01:00:25] There's a lot of the players.

[01:00:28] I think me and it was it tragically was everywhere.

[01:00:33] Well, I meant like in Naruto specifically he was a lot of characters he was yeah.

[01:00:40] I think we most of those characters never are going to appear against we don't have to be disappointed but I'm.

[01:00:45] Most of them died.

[01:00:47] Yes, they did.

[01:00:49] A lot of people die in the show.

[01:00:51] Yeah, don't this is another show where you shouldn't get attached anybody guess some.

[01:00:56] Main characters will die and they don't come back.

[01:01:00] Well, sometimes they come back.

[01:01:05] I mean there's exceptions but there are a lot of deaths are final.

[01:01:10] But those kinds of day six mocking is also a lot of dying and the base day dead.

[01:01:15] So I wasn't even think yeah that's true.

[01:01:21] I didn't think of that.

[01:01:24] So like going into like some of the later junior exam stuff.

[01:01:30] Well, first of all when you're going through the first time where you're expecting a written test because of the school.

[01:01:41] I get the start.

[01:01:43] I was kind of.

[01:01:44] Because we just watched that I think last weekend, Cindy and I and she.

[01:01:49] She literally was just like seriously a fucking paper test.

[01:01:53] What the fuck.

[01:01:55] But they're like you know as you go along and you're like oh it's not actually a felt that test it's about.

[01:02:01] Testing like how well you can gather in like covertly gather information like and that totally makes sense for like an inget.

[01:02:09] I mean you test.

[01:02:12] And then you know they go to the whole force of death thing and.

[01:02:17] I feel like after a roachy maru.

[01:02:21] The force of death becomes incredibly less interesting.

[01:02:27] Yeah, once the moment the big moment happens it's kind of like why are we still here.

[01:02:31] And then like you know they try to give soccer or her big moment where she likes cuts are hair.

[01:02:37] And oh yeah, the I you know I forget she had long hair so often in the show.

[01:02:44] Yeah, because she just keeps it short after that.

[01:02:47] Well, because that was another whole like sascaping because it was like.

[01:02:52] I think sasca made a point that he liked long hair which was actually a lie I believe.

[01:02:57] Yeah, I pretty sure that was just like a rumor like that they just heard about and they just ran with I don't think sasca ever really gave a shit about girls.

[01:03:05] No, like well because that's that's one of those foreshadowy things were like you notice how like all the girls in the class have long hair better obsessed with sasca except for him not a.

[01:03:17] What she's not a sasca exactly so she's the moment the show.

[01:03:22] Which which is funny because the second that whole thing ends she goes her hair out.

[01:03:28] Just a funny little like thing little thing I noticed there.

[01:03:32] Yeah.

[01:03:36] So yeah, we go into like the the more like tournament style going back though to the soccer cutting her hair thing.

[01:03:46] I get the whole symbolism of that scene where it's like you're the important haircut trope.

[01:03:52] I have to point out though that her arm was fully free motion and she had a knife.

[01:03:58] You could have stabbed that person so many different ways.

[01:04:02] Yeah, and then she was worst of biting.

[01:04:05] Yeah, just like all right so you're literally just an annoyance at this point you're not going to do anything by doing that that's a scene where it's like this is a really awesome scene until you actually.

[01:04:18] Aaron a part and realize what the fuck was wrong with her and she's using like basic like kindergarten ninja techniques.

[01:04:26] Trying to fight these guys and it's like what.

[01:04:29] What have you been learning this whole time little miss Marty pants over here and she's using basic as shit.

[01:04:36] Yeah, like that scene bothered the fuck out of me like years later because I'm just like she has a knife stab her like.

[01:04:46] For real, even if you want to do the whole like hair cutting thing you cut the hair and since she was pulling on it that like cutting the hair throws her upper balance spin around and stab her in the chest.

[01:04:58] Like it was the worst part of she wasn't even like guarding herself was wide open everywhere was like oh my god soccer.

[01:05:07] Yeah, and it was kind of like the same thing with the the other guy when she did like the whole substitution thing.

[01:05:14] Like the the bait and switch of like she substitutes the first couple times then the third time she acts like she's going to but then she actually takes the hit just as she can get ahead on them but then she stabs him in the arm.

[01:05:24] Like you're not going to go for anywhere a little bit more fatal.

[01:05:31] No, no, it's a soccer we're talking about she doesn't know what fatal means a little miss Marty pants was not how to aim a knife like.

[01:05:39] I don't know there's a reason is to dislike soccer and she's a bit.

[01:05:46] She's such a poorly written character that's like the which is sad because it's coming from a series that's full of well written characters.

[01:05:55] What's the that's the thing is Kishimoto is really bad at writing compelling females.

[01:06:01] When he's trying to just like somehow like in not as the most compelling female in the entire series and he's she was like the after thought to be honest.

[01:06:12] Yeah, and she was she was kind of also a.

[01:06:16] That's their your type in a lot of ways true.

[01:06:20] I mean she gets a lot better in shipping and but.

[01:06:23] We actually has development and yet soccer is too, but it takes an entire series to get to that point.

[01:06:30] And the damage was so done by that point that like people weren't didn't even care honestly.

[01:06:35] And then you got like he's like Kishimoto says that his favorite his favorite girl is 10 10 but literally gives her nothing.

[01:06:44] 10 10 is so like insignificant that I forget she's there half the time.

[01:06:49] Yeah, she's the the.

[01:06:53] The obligatory girl of rockley's team.

[01:06:56] Like whenever she appears in.

[01:07:00] In barno almost like all right you.

[01:07:03] You're just she just has a weapon shop where she just makes all the weapons and that's just kind of like her thing which it means totally fine.

[01:07:11] I mean we need shopkeeper is in stuff in in the world too, but it's like again.

[01:07:16] Kishimoto you essentially is your favorite what the fuck are you doing if she's your favorite then you should giving her more to do.

[01:07:23] I just don't think I think he says that just because he doesn't want to admit he fucked up the soccer it's stuff so badly.

[01:07:29] Yeah, isn't like soccer based off his wife to or something like that or my thing you know a different artist.

[01:07:39] I.

[01:07:41] I.

[01:07:43] You might be thinking of one piece so that's supposed to I think I heard the same thing about Nami.

[01:07:49] Maybe not a wrong.

[01:07:51] I'm not a person sure.

[01:07:53] I might think it have a different show because I know a budget creators do that.

[01:07:56] Because I feel like I heard the same thing about one piece and that's why so many girls are just Nami clones because like that's like his type and that's what his wife is looks like I guess.

[01:08:05] I mean to be fair of most of the females in one piece like very similar.

[01:08:09] Yeah, especially in black and white.

[01:08:12] Well they all have like one face and one body type so.

[01:08:16] Yeah, extremely thin ways very long legs that's that's one piece in a nutshell.

[01:08:21] I had boobs that's that's that's Kishimoto's thing. I mean, I can show them that's I would just think.

[01:08:29] Yeah, what is definitely a boob guy.

[01:08:32] Kishimoto's more of that guy.

[01:08:37] You can tell by so.

[01:08:39] Get them out.

[01:08:41] I guess so.

[01:08:43] It's hard to tell with Kishimoto because he did the whole sex.

[01:08:48] And like, oh, we haven't talked about that yet.

[01:08:53] Doesn't leave a whole lot of the imagination regardless of what you're into true.

[01:08:59] Yeah, sexy due to see what was your first reaction to that.

[01:09:05] Holy shit, make it lady.

[01:09:07] I was that was that's her.

[01:09:10] I was 11 and I've never seen it immediately looking like to see where my parents were because I was like, oh.

[01:09:16] Well, luckily, um, the first time I watched like like when I was really getting it in art, like a lot of those marathon.

[01:09:25] I remember happened over the weekend and I was at my dad's house in the weekends. So.

[01:09:29] Lesson, less of an issue for me.

[01:09:32] Oh, true.

[01:09:34] So, um,

[01:09:36] And the hair I'm chewed to was like Jesus Christ.

[01:09:39] So a lot of questions and little things in the earth.

[01:09:42] And I just I love the way that that comes back around way later.

[01:09:47] Oh, yeah, perfect.

[01:09:50] The my favorite soccer quote in the entire series.

[01:09:54] Yeah, it's like can't believe that works.

[01:09:59] Oh, she's.

[01:10:03] But yeah, so we move a little bit more into like the tournament stuff like the more tournament structured part of the shooting exam.

[01:10:12] So they get to the force of death and they're like shit, we have way more people for this than we thought we were going to that made it through.

[01:10:22] We got to thin this out a little bit so they have a little like pre limb tournament.

[01:10:27] Just one round just to cut the number and half.

[01:10:32] Obviously there's the fight that everybody knows is the best one aside from that one.

[01:10:38] Are there any in particular that you liked over the other's not going to lie.

[01:10:46] I don't really remember most of them.

[01:10:50] But we had I think Sasuke fought first and he fought the the chakra sucking dude.

[01:10:56] That's where he did the whole like lions barrage thing, which is a really like epic reveal for a very mundane attack.

[01:11:06] Yeah.

[01:11:08] And you can say a similar thing about Naruto's big thing in his bite against Kiva.

[01:11:15] Yeah, and Nedji Hinata.

[01:11:18] Chogie versus the weird mask sound guy.

[01:11:25] Nedji Hinata.

[01:11:27] And she can shoot him on a birthday party.

[01:11:29] Huh?

[01:11:31] Oh yeah.

[01:11:32] I'm just like the only ones I really remember like Naruto Kiva and you're not a Nedji just because they had like emotional moments.

[01:11:42] Yeah, why I feel like I feel like this this little pre limb thing was mostly there just to kind of showcase some of the different powers.

[01:11:53] Yeah.

[01:11:54] Especially since at that point we hadn't seen very many of them do much.

[01:11:59] I think for like little like little bits and pieces.

[01:12:04] And like I think like yeah it was to like show like some of our main characters but I think the biggest purpose of it was to show what the villains could do.

[01:12:17] Because at that point we hadn't really seen anything from like the other sand people we've seen this some of the sound stuff.

[01:12:30] Like the sound village guys.

[01:12:33] But to a leather degree.

[01:12:36] I think it was just the same was this the same point where like soccer you know happened or is that a different fight?

[01:12:42] Yeah because they they fought to a draw so they both got knocked out.

[01:12:49] Their whole thing during early Naruto was so fucking annoying.

[01:12:54] Yeah well I'm glad that from that point on where they kind of just like wave it away and it's like okay like we're still rivals quote unquote but we're cool we'll still go out and have one show whatever like.

[01:13:06] Well especially when like way later on you get the actual backstory of what happened between them and it's like this is so dumb.

[01:13:14] Yeah they got the whole stupid flashback. Oh we're doing flower arranging today like what the fuck this is a goddamn ninja school fuck your flowers I want to learn how to stab maybe if they spent less time on flowers and more time on knife work.

[01:13:28] Maybe she would have known how to fucking stab someone.

[01:13:31] Yeah well especially because later on I get really worked up over that shit.

[01:13:36] Well to me too it's like how the whole reason that those two 80s others because they both liked the same boy and it's like really.

[01:13:44] Yeah she released.

[01:13:46] And it was like they were like six they were six and you know it was such a bitch about it.

[01:13:51] Yeah.

[01:13:53] You know the character that grows on you the farther the thing goes but she was awful in the beginning too. I'm not gonna lie.

[01:14:01] Oh for sure.

[01:14:03] So yeah I guess is a good time to drop the weights so to speak because that was let's be real that was the moment that like cemented Naruto as like a killer action show.

[01:14:19] Like yeah we had some good fights like you know some cool show power show case and stuff but rock lead versus garra was the jumping off point from most people like that is the fight.

[01:14:31] Generally people point to and say this is like peak shown and oh you mean jumping on for it.

[01:14:40] Yeah.

[01:14:42] Honestly yeah because that that's see that fight goes so long and so it's like.

[01:14:49] It's just mental too because it's coming it comes from one character that we barely know anything about at this point in another character who's kind of a joke character for like the first half of the series.

[01:14:59] But ends up being like one of the deeper characters like.

[01:15:04] Like a whole concept of being in ninja would I mean obviously like we kind of have that with Naruto himself but like the whole concept of like an ninja would literally no talent like cannot use chakra period like.

[01:15:20] It was just like far and away beyond Naruto and and of course you also got to figure.

[01:15:25] At this point in the story rock Lee became again in a year ago.

[01:15:32] Yeah he went from literally no name can't do shit to one of the strongest kids in the entire village if not the strongest at this point in time.

[01:15:45] Strictly a little power.

[01:15:47] Yeah from from from very extreme training for a year.

[01:15:52] He got to the point of being able to go toe to toe with the main villain of this arc.

[01:15:59] Yeah I was like I was a villain at first.

[01:16:03] Yeah, why they put a real focus on it too.

[01:16:07] It's like once we really start getting into like his backstory like that is rough.

[01:16:13] Yeah his was pretty bad too.

[01:16:15] Like she's Christ everyone's miserable in the series.

[01:16:20] So I have to I don't know we're kind of jumping around a little bit but I have to ask once they did the big reveal about Garra and his whole deal about how he's like Naruto.

[01:16:30] Um.

[01:16:32] Did you see it?

[01:16:33] It's just like oh this is just another big magic monster that they sealed away or did did you say oh Naruto's got the nine tails.

[01:16:42] Garra's got the one tail.

[01:16:45] Yeah I kind of connected the dust there's probably more of these things.

[01:16:49] Yeah because like that was one of those things that I was kind of like connected with and then like later on when you realize like the whole backstory with all these tail beasts.

[01:17:00] You'd think Shukaku would have had a little bit bigger of a reaction when.

[01:17:05] When the the toe turned into the nine tails.

[01:17:12] You know it's just I don't know just one of those weird things where you like like all a foreshadowing and little like pieces that they put throughout the first show.

[01:17:23] Generally tend to add up but then sometimes it's just like why is this here like why would it just make more of an impact you know.

[01:17:30] Or even things like you know when Jeremiah first meets Naruto.

[01:17:34] Or when Kikashi first meets Naruto for that matter like they all they think obviously knew his parents like very intimately.

[01:17:44] Isn't there a whole thing where it's like the third the third Hokage was like deliberately like hiding stuff like that.

[01:17:54] Um, well I mean he was deliberately hiding things from Naruto yeah but like even I mean this is anime where we get lots of intermodal logs.

[01:18:03] And like Kikashi doesn't even like.

[01:18:08] Uh, call attention to the fact that Naruto is that I tells host until the Chakras touch leaking out while he's fighting Haku.

[01:18:17] That doesn't even dawn on him until then and then you got Jeremiah who is his literal godfather.

[01:18:24] Who's like no fuck you kid I'm not training you.

[01:18:28] I like to write a thing.

[01:18:29] I got ladies to spy on I like to write Jeremiah as a character but he is kind of an asshole.

[01:18:35] Especially read at the beginning like I mean even as he goes on he has his great moments, but he is kind of an asshole his entire.

[01:18:43] Time is a character.

[01:18:45] Yeah, I spent all of Naruto's savings on Hukers.

[01:18:48] Yep.

[01:18:52] That is a thing that happened.

[01:18:54] The Hukers and Boo's.

[01:18:56] And the one popsicle of the shared.

[01:18:59] And they say go.

[01:19:00] Okay, very symbolic later.

[01:19:02] And they say Goku's a dead beast.

[01:19:06] Now I again I know we're not supposed to be touching that stupid on that much but I still say that Goku is a way better father than Minuto.

[01:19:15] I don't know who the hell keeps saying Minuto's a good dad.

[01:19:19] I keep seeing it on the internet.

[01:19:20] Makes no fucking sense.

[01:19:22] Dude had the choice to stay alive and be a dad or to die.

[01:19:27] He chose to die.

[01:19:29] Yep.

[01:19:31] I can't replace his mother.

[01:19:34] So I'm going to deprive him of a dad too.

[01:19:37] What the fuck dude?

[01:19:39] This is Ninja King?

[01:19:41] Come on.

[01:19:43] Kishimoto's a good writer but he also,

[01:19:46] there's a lot of shit in the search that makes no fucking sense.

[01:19:51] Yeah. I say I love Naruto but there are some things it just maybe want to shake my fists.

[01:19:57] Yeah, which is hilarious because then you get to barred on it's like.

[01:20:02] Barred doesn't realize how good he has it.

[01:20:05] And none of the kids at that point in this series do.

[01:20:09] True but none of them are like as resentful as barred on it's.

[01:20:13] Yeah, sure.

[01:20:15] He can't so we're pretty quick though.

[01:20:18] He does as the series goes on but my god.

[01:20:21] Yeah, the start.

[01:20:23] Yeah, it's pretty rough.

[01:20:25] But yeah, the, the, the, we got sidetracked but the guard, the guard,

[01:20:29] the guard rockley fight is insane.

[01:20:32] That was the moment when they really cranked up the animation budget.

[01:20:35] And I'm really showcase what they could do.

[01:20:38] And instead of playing around a lot more with CGI, I feel like at that point.

[01:20:45] That was one that to nommy hype the fuck out of when it was coming up with good reason too.

[01:20:53] That's still like that's that's like the main fight I point to when people say what was one of the best anime fights of all time.

[01:21:01] Garbage Rockley like I always remember to because the way they advertised it was so fucking dumb.

[01:21:06] They were like we have rock Lee who's all guts versus Garo who's all said.

[01:21:12] And it's like all sand.

[01:21:15] It's like, okay.

[01:21:17] Like, yes those two things are in fact up since gots and sand.

[01:21:22] I just, I did not understand the way that they like, they're like, okay.

[01:21:28] Some of the dynamic promo is just silly.

[01:21:32] Most of the know how once we're very stupid.

[01:21:35] Yeah.

[01:21:38] But yeah we went through that whole thing and then you know, we got through Naruto is training arc with Jariah, which got if you thought master Rochi was bad.

[01:21:50] See master Rochi is so extreme that it's like a joke.

[01:21:55] Jariah feels realistic to the point where it's kind of disturbing.

[01:21:59] At least like at least master Rochi acknowledges.

[01:22:03] Like how fucked up he can be.

[01:22:06] Jariah is like, oh, don't call me a per, don't call me a per, it's like, but you are here like the per.

[01:22:12] Like she, we don't see the difference is right.

[01:22:16] The difference is Rochi tends to fail all the time.

[01:22:22] Dariah doesn't and that makes it kind of weird.

[01:22:25] Yeah, Jariah is good at peeping.

[01:22:27] The amount of images of Jariah just with a woman over his shoulder that looks unconscious is kind of disturbing.

[01:22:34] You're not good ally.

[01:22:36] Yeah.

[01:22:38] Yeah, definitely the little distress thing.

[01:22:41] Rochi's just kind of a goofball.

[01:22:46] But yeah at this point, Naruto learns how to summon toes.

[01:22:50] Pretty very underwhelming at the time.

[01:22:53] So I'll say though, going just the one final thing of the Rochi thing.

[01:22:57] Jariah legit peeps at them in like the bath house.

[01:23:01] Rochi just watches like the aerobic channel.

[01:23:04] Well, there was that one episode where he was using Bulma's shrinking ink watch.

[01:23:13] So that he could go into the bathroom and watch her poop.

[01:23:19] That was the thing.

[01:23:22] Yeah, that was a thing that happened.

[01:23:28] Then he fell in the toilet and got flushed.

[01:23:35] I take back what I said.

[01:23:41] Anyways, see, Naruto learns how to how to summon toes.

[01:23:46] Fun stuff but but the main thing that he learned throughout the whole thing was how to tap into nine nine tails chakra at will.

[01:23:54] As he basically like kind of formed an unofficial pact with the nine tails.

[01:24:00] Where it's like, if I die you die, bro.

[01:24:04] So like, you know, hook it up.

[01:24:06] Basically, I think his exact words.

[01:24:09] I'm charging you rent so pay out.

[01:24:11] Yeah, like it's interesting to me, like the whole.

[01:24:16] That's one of probably the most interesting dynamics in the entire series is.

[01:24:20] Naruto and at the time the nine tails, so we didn't know his name yet.

[01:24:26] But um.

[01:24:28] Their relationship throughout the entire series is crazy.

[01:24:34] Yeah.

[01:24:36] Yeah, talk about a relationship that develops over time.

[01:24:41] Take takes an entire two series basically.

[01:24:45] Yeah, pretty much.

[01:24:47] Um, but that was a that was a big turning point for him because that's the point where like like he already just based on his.

[01:24:54] His genes already had a big pool of chakra to pull from those all his now he's got the nine tails to pull from which is a whole another.

[01:25:05] League of of power to pull from.

[01:25:09] Which ends up being like what wins in most of his fights.

[01:25:15] Which is ironic because they go this whole at this whole like arc of him learning how to use it and master it.

[01:25:23] Only for the next series to come around and then be like, you don't use that anymore.

[01:25:29] Just don't ever.

[01:25:31] In fact, we're going to put this guy on your team to prevent you from ever doing it.

[01:25:36] Yeah.

[01:25:40] Um, yeah. So we get we get the the finals and you know, Naruto has his big I guess fight with destiny.

[01:25:51] When he fights energy like the whole.

[01:25:55] You know, you could you can rise and overcome what the the cards that you're dealt in life thing.

[01:26:03] Uh, which was a really big big thing at the time, especially in an early Naruto with a whole concept of the underdog and rising beyond what people expect to view.

[01:26:15] We had also this is where we kind of figure out the whole Hugo backstory.

[01:26:20] Yes.

[01:26:21] Where veggies essentially are fucking slave despite being like related to like the head of the clan like bullshit.

[01:26:29] Yeah, it's is one of those things were like like his dad and the current head are twins.

[01:26:36] Or were twins I should say.

[01:26:39] And it was just whole stupid thing where it's just like, oh, I ended up with this this brand of my forehead because my dad was born two minutes later than his brother like.

[01:26:49] Which is a really like I feel like there has to be some sort of parallel bearer to to something in real life with.

[01:26:58] Japanese culture like that had to be like a thing.

[01:27:03] Because it's just like the way it's written just feels too real for it not to be.

[01:27:09] Especially because the Cucaclan is very much like.

[01:27:13] Like a traditional like Japanese type of aesthetic to them.

[01:27:20] Yes.

[01:27:23] It's also a lot of other characters don't.

[01:27:26] The brands on the forehead are I find really disturbing to because they the whole ideas that they prevent the eyes from being stolen once the Hugo dies.

[01:27:37] Yeah, but they're also they can use them to control them which is just fucked up on a lot of levels.

[01:27:44] Yeah, basically it's like you can just activate like this you know just a spur of a moment just be like yeah, I'm just going to just sort of stir your brains up a little bit real quick.

[01:27:54] Yeah, it's really fucked up and it's one of those things that like I'm glad like you find out later was kind of phased out.

[01:28:01] Future generations but at the same time it's like yeah there's a reason why like this.

[01:28:06] Families kind of fucked up.

[01:28:09] So we go from that to.

[01:28:15] She can Mars fight.

[01:28:17] But she didn't even want to he was going to give up.

[01:28:20] He's just going to bow out before the fight even started.

[01:28:22] But it was an hour to the push to mount I think it was not or two.

[01:28:30] I think so.

[01:28:32] Just kind of jump into the arena.

[01:28:34] You know people always say like that Naruto has the bromance with Sasuke and reality I think he has the bromance with chicamara more than anybody.

[01:28:41] Oh for sure, like that was definitely a point I was going to bring up is that like they make a huge deal about Naruto and Sasuke being like best friends being brothers like.

[01:28:48] All that stuff like let's be real like chicamara was Naruto's best friend like they are best friends as a reason why Boruto and Shikadai are like best friends like it's.

[01:28:59] Yeah, that that that's just a thing and I love that I love that that Naruto has that kind of that kind of friend to back him up.

[01:29:08] Yeah.

[01:29:10] It is funny to the the right of holding joke that the two laziest kids in the class of the ones that are running the village now.

[01:29:15] Yeah, right. Pretty great.

[01:29:19] See yeah, this is that whole fight which.

[01:29:23] Really is like the first time that it really showcases like oh yeah, Shikamara is like I'll rageously smart.

[01:29:30] Yeah, but he just doesn't like go blind himself which.

[01:29:36] As a as a child in the school, I definitely identify with.

[01:29:41] Also, I can we bring up like we haven't mentioned yet that the the forehead protectors like advance.

[01:29:48] Not like how like none of them where them right.

[01:29:52] Yeah, well, I mean it kind of makes sense and you think from a design aspect like you don't want them all to look exactly the same.

[01:30:02] I know I just I love the fact that like it's this whole like symbolic thing and then like so all of them on team.

[01:30:09] So, team seven where the where I'm normally but then you get to teammate we're like in auto where's it is a fucking necklace.

[01:30:19] Shikamara where's it as an arm band you know where says a belt and then like Joji's got his own custom one out of nowhere.

[01:30:27] Yeah, he's got his his head underwear.

[01:30:31] Yeah, basically.

[01:30:33] I just found shit like that kind of funny it's like it's like, ah, headband built.

[01:30:40] Like sure that makes it all right.

[01:30:44] All right.

[01:30:48] And then we get to like the the main event of Southgamer's as far as the one that everyone at everyone who is there to watch is therefore.

[01:30:57] Yeah, it was.

[01:31:03] It was wild especially once like you learn.

[01:31:07] How like different like chakra elements relate to each other.

[01:31:13] And you don't learn that until way the fuck later like we're talking like midship it in is when you learn how like different elements react to each other.

[01:31:23] But you you see hints of it throughout this series this being part of it because.

[01:31:30] It goes out of his way the teach.

[01:31:33] SAUSCAY that you do a specifically because it works well against earth style which obviously sand.

[01:31:42] And this is where like the big attack on the village happens and.

[01:31:47] The first of many attacks on the village.

[01:31:50] Yeah, no kidding.

[01:31:53] And this is like the first like big.

[01:31:58] The first big triumphant for Naruto.

[01:32:03] Well, the first big, like, underdog victory.

[01:32:07] This one, he fights Garra and comes out on his feet.

[01:32:11] When he's able to beat somebody that Sasuke couldn't,

[01:32:14] like, that was like the big moment for him.

[01:32:16] For actually for him and for Sasuke, those are big characters.

[01:32:20] That character defining moments for both of them.

[01:32:23] Because that gave Naruto confidence, it gave him

[01:32:27] motivation.

[01:32:30] It gave him, like, motivation.

[01:32:33] I worked this hard.

[01:32:34] I did all this training.

[01:32:36] These are the fruits of my, my flavors.

[01:32:38] Then you got Sasuke who was like, I'm the prodigy.

[01:32:42] I'm the guy who's supposed to be, you know, taking these guys down.

[01:32:46] I even had the tools that are specifically, like, effective against this guy and

[01:32:53] I lost Naruto one.

[01:32:56] That was a big, a big character more than for Sasuke because that was when

[01:33:01] he started really having doubts about himself.

[01:33:04] Yeah, which ultimately led him to the dark side.

[01:33:13] And he had the curse mark by this player.

[01:33:16] Yeah, he got it in the forest of death.

[01:33:17] So that was kind of why he just wasn't around after that fight in the

[01:33:24] the preliminarys.

[01:33:27] Because Kakashi was training in and trying to help him get a hand a little

[01:33:30] bit all right.

[01:33:39] So I don't know, did this should be a two-farter?

[01:33:44] Um, I mean, how much more of this to we, how much more original Naruto's left?

[01:33:52] Well, we stopped this Nadeark in the Sasuke arc.

[01:33:56] Yeah, it is getting kind of late.

[01:34:01] Yeah, maybe we should cut this up into multiple parts.

[01:34:05] Yeah, Xie, even the first show is pretty long.

[01:34:10] The second show is significantly longer.

[01:34:13] Yeah, although you can cut like a good like 30 minute out because it's all pointless.

[01:34:19] Yeah, no kidding.

[01:34:21] Um, yeah, let's let's cut it off here for now.

[01:34:24] We'll cover the last two arcs in the next one.

[01:34:27] I do want to bring up one thing though, like,

[01:34:30] can we talk about the, the, the filler episode where they like follow Kakashi

[01:34:35] wrong because they want to find out what's under his mask?

[01:34:38] I love that episode.

[01:34:39] That's up there for me with like one shot filler episodes with the,

[01:34:44] the Goku getting his license episode.

[01:34:46] Yeah.

[01:34:47] I just loved the idea of like the giant lips or like the buck tea.

[01:34:51] Yeah.

[01:34:52] And then like every time, for again, like,

[01:34:55] somebody else sees his face and they get like the big hearts in their eyes,

[01:35:00] like, even the ramen guy.

[01:35:04] Yeah.

[01:35:06] I love to like whenever he eats, you know,

[01:35:08] it's always like off screen and then like it cuts back to him.

[01:35:11] And it's already, it's the next back up.

[01:35:12] You don't see it.

[01:35:13] It's an entire bowl of ramen in like two seconds flat.

[01:35:16] Yeah.

[01:35:18] Such as our rated.

[01:35:21] It's a goofy character design, but hey, it's rememberable.

[01:35:26] Yeah, I don't think there's anybody, even if you didn't watch an hour ago,

[01:35:29] you know who Kakashi is.

[01:35:31] He's just such a, such a recognizable character.

[01:35:36] So many Kakashi cosplayers during COVID.

[01:35:40] Mm.

[01:35:41] So good.

[01:35:45] But yeah, so we'll probably do that this is a two-partner.

[01:35:49] You want to do that next week or do you want to take a break and come back to it?

[01:35:53] Um, well, well, we'll talk that over.

[01:35:58] If if we come up with something else, we want to do,

[01:36:01] because it wouldn't be a bad idea to break it out,

[01:36:03] especially since we just did a UBN2 fighter.

[01:36:06] Yeah.

[01:36:07] So if we can come up with another idea, we'll do that.

[01:36:11] If not, we'll just fall back on this.

[01:36:14] Okay.

[01:36:15] You know, for what you originally thought you were going to do all of Nardo and one go.

[01:36:19] Yeah, well.

[01:36:21] I mean, we did drag and ball all in one go, but that was almost four hour

[01:36:26] episodes.

[01:36:26] That would, so we barely touched on the specifics.

[01:36:29] So we're kind of going a little bit more into detail in this

[01:36:32] and even that.

[01:36:35] Not nearly as deep as we could have.

[01:36:38] Yeah, that is true.

[01:36:42] But um, yeah.

[01:36:44] So we'll definitely revisit this in the future, not sure when exactly

[01:36:50] but we'll get to it at some point.

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