Geek Addicts - Episode 25: Talking About Our Favorite TV Shows!

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[00:00:08] Welcome to Geek Addicts, a pop culture podcast.

[00:00:34] Hello and welcome to Geek Addicts, the pop culture podcast.

[00:00:38] My name is Matt.

[00:00:39] With me is Mr. How does he do it?

[00:00:43] Bill Barber.

[00:00:44] Your guess is as good as mine.

[00:00:47] To be honest at this point.

[00:00:50] Oh, this has been a hard one.

[00:00:53] You know, I love like looking at the contrast between we have the video versions of these and I love looking at like the.

[00:00:59] So we record 3DO on Tuesday.

[00:01:03] And then we record these on Fridays.

[00:01:05] And if you look at me in the 3DO episodes, I'm all like full of energy and awake and then you look at me by Friday and I'm just dead.

[00:01:13] Yeah, I'm totally with you there man.

[00:01:15] It's friggin rough sometimes.

[00:01:17] I know we were debating whether or not we wanted to record a double last week in between my cold and just the exhaustion of the week.

[00:01:26] It just didn't have it in me.

[00:01:28] Yeah, I ended up staying up super late because I had to do some editing that night anyways that whole weekend was just rough in general with everything but

[00:01:44] Alex is doing better thankfully and I'm glad to hear it.

[00:01:51] She's moving on a bit, but um, yeah, it's been a it's been a hell of a week just long and just tiring.

[00:02:01] Understandable.

[00:02:04] You have been catching up on anything over the past week or

[00:02:07] So I recently got back into comics and I've been kind of on a comic binge as of late.

[00:02:13] Gotcha.

[00:02:15] Don't ever get into comics people it's not a it's a it's a lot.

[00:02:19] Yeah, the only way I'd ever get into American comics is if I had like shown a jump esque app I can read it online.

[00:02:27] So there's a fun fun little fact about that I might this might be dangerous but there's actually

[00:02:34] There's two apps that you can get on your phone. There's Marvel unlimited and there's DC infinite which are essentially this exactly what you just described.

[00:02:43] Fair enough. I knew stuff like that existed it just does.

[00:02:47] I don't know I I know that there's no way I'd ever get into collecting like at least physical editions like you know reading it online or something like that's reasonable I could work that I just

[00:02:58] Well first of all I had too many expensive hobbies as it is and not enough money to go around.

[00:03:03] So adding another one just is not in the cards.

[00:03:08] Yeah so I'm like long past the days of collecting floppies and like single issues because

[00:03:14] No thanks that's a lot of work and the nearest comic store that gets new issues in is like 50 minute like 45 minutes away.

[00:03:22] Yes, and I don't want to make that drive once a week so

[00:03:26] Understandable.

[00:03:28] Yeah, yeah I've um I don't remember if I mentioned it or if it was afterwards or not but I caught up with spy family the manga.

[00:03:37] I showed a jump so I'm up to date on that.

[00:03:41] So you saw the you read the volume 11 stories with the the hostage situation I'm guessing.

[00:03:50] Yeah with the bus. Yeah, I fucking love that arc that was great.

[00:03:54] I can't wait to see that animated. I know.

[00:03:57] Well I just can't wait for it just for the ending like the ending like payoff of your fucking running to the disaster.

[00:04:05] It's great.

[00:04:06] It's like ma'am how did you get here so fast? Oh I ran.

[00:04:09] Also like you know spoilers to anyone who's anime only but like Damien's mom.

[00:04:16] Yeah we don't know yet and there's a lot of questions there.

[00:04:20] There's there's some resentment going on there.

[00:04:24] Yeah we don't know about her yet this is a bit of a questioning.

[00:04:28] Also I don't know if it was just due to like dubbing or whatever but like it didn't really like register in my mind that um

[00:04:42] What the hell is his name but whatever the daddy Desmond I forget his first name.

[00:04:48] I don't remember his name.

[00:04:53] And it was Damien and Dimitri or whatever the kids.

[00:04:57] Donovan. Donovan yeah.

[00:04:59] It didn't register for watching the anime dubbed that he was practically the president

[00:05:07] because they keep referring to his wife as first former first lady.

[00:05:11] Yeah.

[00:05:13] So yeah that was that whole thing was interesting.

[00:05:17] I like that now we have a plan C involved with with your and her.

[00:05:24] Yeah that you know something about the dub that I noticed that like you'll never be able to unhear once you know once you connect the dots.

[00:05:32] Was that Lloyd's voice actor is the same guy as the the guy from Death Parade.

[00:05:37] Yes I did know that and it's definitely odd.

[00:05:42] And they're like that they're kind of the same character sort of it's interesting.

[00:05:48] They are but they aren't it's an interesting contrast between the two.

[00:05:52] Yeah.

[00:05:54] But yeah aside from that I finished fully.

[00:06:00] The day after our last recording actually.

[00:06:05] And almost instantly I was like I finished the game and I still have like two hours to play video games.

[00:06:12] And I was like I was jumbling between a bunch of them that I have from my PlayStation and I ended up starting Dragon Quest Heroes 2.

[00:06:21] Pretty fun game so far I'm enjoying it definitely.

[00:06:25] It's a mooso game so I mean those are all really fun.

[00:06:28] They're just they're kind of games that you you have to be in the right mood to play because they're basically just like endless hack and slashers.

[00:06:35] Basically Dynasty Warriors with with Toriyama art.

[00:06:39] Yeah it's funny how there's like a mooso for everything now like there's the Fire Emblem ones there's persona persona five has one of its own.

[00:06:47] Yeah there's a Zelda one too isn't there.

[00:06:50] I think well Gundam technically did it first with Zelda was like one of the first ones to really start the whole idea of like having Dynasty Warrior games with different universes.

[00:07:00] I'm totally into it.

[00:07:01] I mean we're at the moment Dragon Quest is the only universe that I'm really interested in delving into but also excuse me I promise there won't be as much coffee this time.

[00:07:11] I am feeling a lot better.

[00:07:13] But I found out after I started playing it that Dragon Quest Heroes was released like as like a combo pack on switch but only in Japan and I'm so

[00:07:29] not hurt that we didn't get it here to be fair the the switch version of Heroes is not very good.

[00:07:36] Yeah still well I mean it wouldn't bother me as much if it had if the PlayStation version had couch co-op true the thing about the switch version is that it's one of the games where you really notice how much how

[00:07:49] underpowered the switch was in comparison.

[00:07:51] Yeah it's fair because you look at certain things you go like that's not as nice.

[00:07:57] Yeah I mean but at least with graphics wise like because of like the the Toriyama art style like I don't think the graphics would suffer very much.

[00:08:06] It's so the models aren't bad it's more the environments and it's it's pretty distracting.

[00:08:12] It's one of it's one of the ones where people were really kind of like oh that's that's pretty noticeable.

[00:08:18] Yeah.

[00:08:20] I mean it's not as bad as Mortal Kombat 11 which is like holy shit like that.

[00:08:25] Yeah it looks terrible yet it plays great which is kind of an interesting contrast.

[00:08:30] I played that one on switch too I totally know what you're saying.

[00:08:33] Yeah like it's amazing it runs but holy shit it looks terrible.

[00:08:37] Well that's the thing is I don't mind like a graphics dive as long as you keep the playability of it solid like that's how the Witcher is like the graphics for the Witcher isn't like it's definitely

[00:08:49] took a serious no dive on switch but it still plays smooth enough.

[00:08:55] Yeah so I mean for that at least I'm okay with it.

[00:09:03] But yeah aside from that I'm really close to beating Chrono Trigger I'm on the like little side quest stuff at the very end.

[00:09:11] Okay I won't spoil it but Chrono Trigger has multiple endings so.

[00:09:15] Yeah it's like 16 endings it's different endings.

[00:09:19] I did want to ask you though is does it matter the path I take to fighting Lavos because you can fly there on the epoch you can jump in the bucket or you can go to the castle.

[00:09:32] You're not supposed to you're not supposed to fight him right away you're supposed to go through some of this stuff first before you fight him.

[00:09:39] Yeah I definitely intend to but but there's three different ways to get to him.

[00:09:44] So does which path you take whether you go to the bucket or take the ship or go to the castle.

[00:09:50] Does that affect the ending or is that just three past the same goal kind of thing.

[00:09:57] I honestly it's been forever since I played I think they're I think they they result in different endings.

[00:10:03] Okay.

[00:10:04] So it might be a good place to save and then have as a backup save.

[00:10:07] Yeah well I mean at least for this run I'm planning to just play it as it is and just kind of just do whatever my instincts tell me to do.

[00:10:18] But aside from that.

[00:10:22] Like what whenever I go back to play it again.

[00:10:25] I'm just trying to guide that will tell me how to trigger each different ending but without actually spoiling what the ending is then that's probably what I'll try to do but at least for now I'm just playing it through as a game and letting letting things happen as they happen.

[00:10:39] That's the best way to play it the first time around just to truly experience it it's a fun game to replay though and get the different results.

[00:10:46] Yeah, for sure.

[00:10:47] I'm definitely been enjoying my time with it for sure.

[00:10:51] Collecting wise I'm kind of I don't know if I said it yet on here but I'm on a bit of a self imposed like hiatus from video game collecting for a little bit just because I don't want the hobby to get ruined for me because I was kind of getting burnt out with it and I was like I need to take a break it's too

[00:11:05] expensive and I'm not having fun right now.

[00:11:07] But there comes a point where like, if there's nothing out there that you really like that I just didn't getting you just buying it just to buy it.

[00:11:16] And this point I think you've probably done that enough.

[00:11:20] Yeah, like right now lately my I can only buy so many shitty PS one racing games before I get bored of it.

[00:11:27] Yeah, I mean for the sake of say like the 3DO like it makes sense to take games for that for the show but

[00:11:37] That's the only real console I'm still collecting for right now just for show games but even then that's like you that's like every couple of weeks I'll buy a new game.

[00:11:45] Yeah, that's kind of why I got back into comics because I needed that new I needed a new like kind of something keep me interested because

[00:11:53] Mongoise I'm pretty much caught up on all my ongoings now it's just new new releases when they come out.

[00:12:00] Yeah.

[00:12:01] And then other than that like I'm really not collecting anything else regularly so I kind of wanted to get back into comics now I'm not really doing like I said earlier not not collecting floppy is I'm mostly getting

[00:12:12] trades the collected editions, which is nice mostly just older ones because I'm trying to catch up on old storylines and stuff.

[00:12:22] I got you.

[00:12:24] I did I did actually buy a couple floppies though like single issues.

[00:12:28] One of my fun collecting goals not really to read them I actually want to get them framed as wall art but I've been trying to collect all the wedding issues.

[00:12:39] Wedding issues.

[00:12:40] So like the Superman and Lois Lane, the wedding out Superman the wedding album is a good one.

[00:12:46] I got I have the Spider-Man, Mary Jane wedding issue on order and then I have Wally Weston Linda Park from the flash.

[00:12:55] I'm in.

[00:12:56] All right.

[00:12:58] It's just a fun little gimmick because I've had the Superman one for years.

[00:13:02] And it's I have the trades of all these so it's like I don't really need to read the singles anymore so I kind of want to get them framed because they're kind of cool.

[00:13:10] Gotcha.

[00:13:13] Are you are you planning on getting the Sandline game when that comes out.

[00:13:17] Yeah, probably.

[00:13:18] I got to budget forward but I did plan on picking it up.

[00:13:23] Really look good.

[00:13:25] Yeah, it looks looks really fun.

[00:13:27] It has like a very.

[00:13:29] Do you know who who developed it.

[00:13:31] It's the studio that did the diamond and pearl remakes and one piece Odyssey.

[00:13:36] Okay.

[00:13:37] Yeah, I think you did tell me that before.

[00:13:39] And I was going to say like when I was looking at the trailer and that the gameplay footage is stuff that looked very it looked a lot like Kakarot.

[00:13:48] It did to a degree probably similar graphics engine it's definitely not cyber connected to though they just get gameplay wise it looks very basic.

[00:13:59] Not in a bad way just in that kind of like serviceable way.

[00:14:05] Well definitely had more vehicle options which is cool.

[00:14:08] True, it looks it looked a lot like one piece Odyssey to me where it's like it's a good looking game that technically is pretty is functional it just isn't anything super crazy or out there.

[00:14:18] It's it's a very serviceable game I think is the way the best way to describe it.

[00:14:23] That's better.

[00:14:24] I have it on pre order so when that comes out I'm definitely gonna be jumping into it.

[00:14:28] I'm excited.

[00:14:29] Yeah, I'm keeping an eye out on new releases it's kind of like when the time comes.

[00:14:35] Pretty much.

[00:14:36] Oh go on.

[00:14:38] I was just gonna say I'm kind of going on a Toriyama binge right now.

[00:14:41] Yeah.

[00:14:42] Chrono trigger Dragon Quest I just finished the cell arc this week of Kai taking a little break before I jump into boo but yeah.

[00:14:52] They have the same land game coming out of kind of going crazy with that.

[00:14:57] I got you.

[00:14:59] We mentioned spy family earlier me and Alex are going to see at the time of this recording we're gonna go see it tomorrow so that's kind of cool.

[00:15:07] Cool.

[00:15:08] We're probably going on Sunday.

[00:15:10] So, oh nice.

[00:15:12] There's a bunch of people in the community that are going to go see it so I'm looking forward to it.

[00:15:17] Definitely.

[00:15:21] Yeah, nothing else really there other than that.

[00:15:25] You want to jump into our topic.

[00:15:27] Sure.

[00:15:29] Alright so for this episode we're doing a bit more of a chill episode kind of like how we did a while back we did our talking about our favorite movies this time we're going to do an episode talking about our favorite TV series.

[00:15:41] So we decided for this episode we're going to have a kind of a self imposed we're going to keep anime out of the discussion for this one.

[00:15:49] So honestly that's probably its own episode at some point in the future just getting deeper like doing a deep dive into animes and stuff.

[00:15:56] Yeah, I mean we've kind of already started that with the individual episode is what with Dragon Ball you you Haka show you you all that.

[00:16:04] Yeah, so for this we're going to keep it we're going to keep the animes to the side.

[00:16:09] I think otherwise though we can, it can, it doesn't matter if it's cartoons or live action we can talk about any court any sort of show we watched back in the day.

[00:16:17] As long as it's not Nickelodeon live action show.

[00:16:20] Yeah, those have been ruined I've already talked enough about those on GNC like it's funny I rewatched that episode and like I'm already like my opinions already changed from then, like I've already have.

[00:16:33] It's actually it's like it's gotten even more negative since then I'm just like.

[00:16:38] It's one of those things where you sit and you just do want it for a while and you know.

[00:16:43] Yeah, and then you kind of rethink about you're like wow these shows were really not great.

[00:16:50] Yeah, yeah I don't know where you want to start or how we're framing it like we just talking like childhood shows or.

[00:16:59] I'm just thinking childhood teens just stuff we've been watching.

[00:17:03] I mean this frankly I don't watch a lot of TV anymore.

[00:17:07] Not going to lie there.

[00:17:10] I kind of stopped around my teenage years so that probably a workout find in that regard because once I hit the teenage years it was basically all anime from there on out and like a few specific things but nothing super major.

[00:17:26] Well the first the first couple ones that come to mind for me personally are like the the the Nickelodeon cartoon cartoons that never seem to end being SpongeBob and the fairly odd parents.

[00:17:39] See it's it's crazy to me with Nickelodeon because I still remember like the early 90s when Nickelodeon was like.

[00:17:48] I swear like 60% of their shows were the clapspy clapsky coupsco shows.

[00:17:54] Like Rugrats all real monsters, the wild lawnberries.

[00:18:00] I still love Rugrats.

[00:18:02] Rugrats is good there was some fucked up episodes of that show I'm not going to lie.

[00:18:07] Yo that remember the episode we're freaking where I forget I think that Tommy took off his diaper or whatever and then like Phil they'll take off their diapers and they're looking to them like.

[00:18:16] Lillian, Phillip who like they're just like it's in shock.

[00:18:21] Yeah, like stuff that goes over your head as a child.

[00:18:25] I remember the episode where where Tommy gets fucking like abducted.

[00:18:31] They try to like ransom ransom him because they thought that he was from like a rich family or something.

[00:18:36] Yeah, no no if you actually read the note they were going to kidnap Donald Trump's kid is the most hilarious shit.

[00:18:43] It's like wow.

[00:18:45] And then you're like looking at the neighborhood there and it's like why he would never be living in this neighborhood.

[00:18:50] No, it's way nicer house than that.

[00:18:52] Yeah.

[00:18:53] Although you got to admit like freaking for for a dude who's like pretty much just is like a like a self made like I make toys and sell them to these companies kind of guy like you had a nice ass house.

[00:19:08] Oh yeah the pickles house.

[00:19:10] Yes house.

[00:19:12] Except in some scenes episodes where it was decrepit as fuck because they have for just for the episode.

[00:19:20] Yeah that show is fucking weird.

[00:19:22] I love that show because it's just such a solid example of parenting in the 90s.

[00:19:28] Like, oh yeah.

[00:19:30] And how like so true.

[00:19:33] Like I always just remember like I always remember the ice cream mountain episode where it's just like stew and what was stew's brother's name drew drew.

[00:19:45] We're having like a golfing like match because they're trying to one up each other and then the kids are just like fucking like getting inside all the shit.

[00:19:52] Yeah, because they were told that they were going to get ice cream.

[00:19:55] Then they like we're going to stop and do putt first and they see the ice cream.

[00:20:01] The ice cream part of the mini golf thing and they yeah as it shows oh yeah and they sneak inside of it and they like they find out it's rigged because the guy who running the mini golf thing was rigging it.

[00:20:14] Yeah, and they end up actually pulling the paper that was rigging it out and they end up getting holes in one.

[00:20:22] It's awesome.

[00:20:23] It was a wicked fun show.

[00:20:25] I remember the vacation episode because like you can't find that episode anywhere anymore because the song had like the legitimate like the song vacation by the go goes in it.

[00:20:36] And it's like because of the licensing you just can't find that fucking episode anywhere anymore.

[00:20:42] Because obviously with my with my daughter we've watched our grads like here and there over the past couple years.

[00:20:49] And what they got noticed is that the guy who composed the music his name is Mark Mothersbach.

[00:20:57] Oh, that's yeah he's the I'm pretty sure he's the guitar player for a band.

[00:21:06] Yeah, actually now that you mentioned it I looked into him and he he's done a bunch of stuff and I'm pretty sure he's like a well known guy.

[00:21:15] Yeah, yeah he's from he's he was the he's the lead singer and keyboard player of divo so the song whip it.

[00:21:20] Oh okay.

[00:21:21] So it all makes sense.

[00:21:23] Yep.

[00:21:25] Rugrats was big.

[00:21:27] The other big one from that period to me was Arnold.

[00:21:31] Yeah.

[00:21:32] That show is fucking complicated.

[00:21:35] The show is really dark at times.

[00:21:38] Yeah, it was it was it was Matt Groening's brother-in-law did it.

[00:21:44] I can't remember his name right now but yeah he was the that show was so different compared to like the other Nickelodeon shows at the time.

[00:21:53] Yeah, it was it was weird having like that kind of suburban setting or not urban setting for for a kid's cartoon.

[00:22:03] And now like I don't know it's just the general vibe of the show is so different.

[00:22:09] Yeah, it was definitely very unique for the time and there's a reason why it stuck around so long.

[00:22:16] I'm trying to think because then there was also like Rocco's modern life that was another.

[00:22:21] That show was insane was just literally insanity.

[00:22:24] I remember watching it as a kid but I could not tell you a single thing about it.

[00:22:29] It's one of the ones you got to rewatch because there's so many fucking inside jokes that like kids will never get.

[00:22:35] Like my favorite is the one where Rocco is literally like he gets hired as a sex hotline.

[00:22:42] Because they don't say it but literally he's like, oh baby, oh baby, oh baby.

[00:22:47] This is big hit.

[00:22:49] Like it's like the yeah that's one that like the parents in the room probably were like what the fuck.

[00:22:56] Well those jokes you know there was those jokes were written for the parents though.

[00:22:59] I mean you get a lot of that in the shows like Rugrats and stuff like that like.

[00:23:04] That was that one was blatant though.

[00:23:06] Holy shit.

[00:23:07] Oh yeah, for sure.

[00:23:10] It's funny like you brought up SpongeBob.

[00:23:12] SpongeBob debuted in 99.

[00:23:14] Yeah, it's been around for a long time.

[00:23:17] I still remember the pilot like when that launched bubble bubble stand.

[00:23:23] I think it was.

[00:23:24] Yep. Yeah, because it was wasn't there like no words in that one it was just no no that was a reef blower that was this that was like it right right in between episode they did.

[00:23:33] Gotcha.

[00:23:34] Well, it's funny because they bubble stand was the pilot.

[00:23:38] Well it was the first episode that aired but the pilot episode was the they played they put aired it afterwards that was the one where he gets the job at the Krusty Krab.

[00:23:47] Yeah, that's that's the one I remember yeah.

[00:23:50] Because that has the Krusty Krab.

[00:23:53] There's the reef blower intercooled the only time they ever did like a weird intercooled episode.

[00:23:58] That's like silent silent for whatever reason.

[00:24:01] And then the episode where he meets Sandy.

[00:24:05] Oh yeah.

[00:24:06] Because then bubble the bubble stand was the pilot I always remember bubble stand just because it was like, what a perfect way to start a show.

[00:24:13] Yeah, it was it was.

[00:24:15] I don't know the like first couple like two three seasons of SpongeBob was like top tier cartoon everything.

[00:24:22] Everything up to the movie, the first yeah for sure.

[00:24:26] I always love the mermaid man of barnacle boy stuff.

[00:24:29] Yeah, like the well because that was an inside joke because it was Ernest Borg nine and and I'm forgetting his the barnacle boys voice actor.

[00:24:42] I'm gonna bug this shit.

[00:24:45] I mean, well I'm that joke went over my head but what's so it was okay so it was Ernest Ernest Borg nine and Tim Conway Tim Conway was barnacle boy.

[00:25:00] They were the main characters in the show mccails Navy.

[00:25:04] Okay.

[00:25:05] It was just it was a it was a it was a reference for for the adult for the parents watching that watched that show back in the day, but they're literally just playing their characters from that.

[00:25:14] That's pretty funny.

[00:25:16] Yeah, it was a fun thing like that.

[00:25:20] I still remember the the first plankton episode.

[00:25:23] Yep.

[00:25:24] It's crazy about the episode.

[00:25:28] You forgot the pickles.

[00:25:31] My favorite to this day because me and Alex still quote it like every day is the the late night delivery episode where SpongeBob and Squidward have to deliver the pizza to the guy they get they get lost but I was I remember that episode because there are so many quotable

[00:25:49] lines in that like, like, Squidward we're saved.

[00:25:54] They're like, it's just a stupid boulder.

[00:25:57] It's not a boulder.

[00:25:58] It's a rock.

[00:26:01] The pioneers used to drive these babies for miles.

[00:26:07] And then when he runs over Squidward Squared just starts chasing me like, hold on there Jethro.

[00:26:12] Jesus.

[00:26:14] There's that and then my the line me and Alex quote all the time is when they deliver the pizza and the guys like, where's my drink.

[00:26:20] You forgot my drink my diet Dr kelp.

[00:26:25] I always quote that whenever we're buying soda or something.

[00:26:29] We're getting a pizza.

[00:26:33] I am the, my, my, my favorite episode growing up was always the bubble bowl episode.

[00:26:40] Oh yeah because the margin.

[00:26:42] Yeah, sweet thing.

[00:26:44] That song.

[00:26:46] That song is still like, like I still remember when the song it does when Stephen when Steven Hillenberg passed away there was the petition to get it

[00:26:54] played at the Super Bowl, which the NFL gave all SpongeBob fans the giant middle finger at.

[00:27:01] But I remember because NASCAR then to take a dig at the NFL made a whole like promotional video for the Daytona 500 and used sweet victory in it.

[00:27:12] Just as a middle finger to the NFL, which was kind of funny.

[00:27:15] So.

[00:27:18] Yeah, SpongeBob was classic.

[00:27:20] Like just so many great episodes.

[00:27:23] Yeah, that's one of those things where if I see an old episode playing I'll always sit down and watch it because it's just you can't not.

[00:27:29] Yeah, those first few seasons just like still hold up to this day.

[00:27:33] Yeah, fairly odd parents was another one that I really liked but it definitely overstated welcome.

[00:27:39] Oh for sure.

[00:27:40] Like once they started before the baby showed up.

[00:27:43] The baby was pretty blatant.

[00:27:47] I think that the best finale for that show would have been like something like Channel Chasers was I think like the point where I thought it really would have been a good ending.

[00:27:55] I loved that one.

[00:27:57] Channel Chasers was really good.

[00:27:59] All the TV movies were pretty good in general.

[00:28:02] The Jimmy Timmy Power Hour.

[00:28:04] I remember that just because the 3D versions of the fairly odd parents cast are horrifying.

[00:28:10] You want to talk about horrifying 3D cartoons?

[00:28:14] Have you seen the any images from the Rugrats remake?

[00:28:18] Yeah, I watched one episode and I just went yeah they're pandering at points and it's just not the same.

[00:28:26] Yeah, I didn't even watch any.

[00:28:28] I had to look at what it looked like and I said yeah no way.

[00:28:31] It looks awful.

[00:28:33] Yeah, I watched one episode just out of curiosity.

[00:28:35] I was like yeah, I'm good.

[00:28:37] I'd rather watch All Grown Up or anybody remembers All Grown Up.

[00:28:40] Oh yeah.

[00:28:41] See I liked that original episode or like the little TV special they had for it.

[00:28:47] But when they made the whole series out of it it was like...

[00:28:51] It was fine.

[00:28:55] It wasn't something that I'd look back on fondly or anything but...

[00:28:58] And all grown up to them was like 11.

[00:29:03] Yeah.

[00:29:04] Which at the time... I mean when you kind of grew up with it so at the time that did feel like an adult.

[00:29:10] True. That's true.

[00:29:13] Speaking of SpongeBob, I kind of wanted to bring up the whole like metaphor of SpongeBob where like when you're a kid you very much relate with SpongeBob.

[00:29:22] But then as you grew up you slowly start to relate more with Squidward.

[00:29:26] Yeah.

[00:29:27] I mean in a way, I mean I've always kind of been an old man at heart.

[00:29:31] So while I've definitely found Squidward annoying as a kid I got it.

[00:29:36] It's like my annoying neighbor is at it again.

[00:29:40] Well it's like nowadays you watch that and you're just like I understand this man on so many levels now.

[00:29:45] Like he's sandwiched between the dumbest and most annoying people of the entire town.

[00:29:50] He works a crappy job.

[00:29:52] Like doesn't get paid bullshit.

[00:29:54] Just wants to like enjoy his life but like everyone just like shits on everything he does.

[00:29:59] Remember the episode where he quits his job over the Mr. Krabs first dime?

[00:30:04] Yeah and then they go on strike.

[00:30:06] Yeah.

[00:30:07] I remember... Do you remember when he goes to the... He runs away and goes to like the fam...

[00:30:13] It's like that village of nothing but Squidward's.

[00:30:16] He has like a retirement home for Squidward's.

[00:30:18] And it's like he loves it at first and then he realizes how miserable it is.

[00:30:23] Because I mean being surrounded by people that are just like you I can imagine would be fucking terrible like hell.

[00:30:30] It's just being like the same shit every day. Exactly like that episode.

[00:30:35] Yeah.

[00:30:37] But yeah.

[00:30:39] Oh man. Yeah that was a classic.

[00:30:41] Going back a little we had mentioned it during the Yu-Gi-Oh episode but

[00:30:47] Saturday morning like cartoons and stuff like I still remember getting up every morning to watch Fox Kids in the morning.

[00:30:54] Yep.

[00:30:56] That was a great time because like you'd get up and you'd at your Power Rangers every week

[00:31:01] and then you'd get like a couple anime stuff we're gonna leave out for now.

[00:31:06] Yeah I mean I watched Power Rangers a little bit but it...

[00:31:11] Much like Transformers they just never really did it for me.

[00:31:15] I don't know why maybe...

[00:31:17] I don't know maybe it's just a weird thing with me.

[00:31:19] I knew like I knew tons of kids who loved Power Rangers and like

[00:31:23] I mean I found it enjoyable to watch every now and then but it just didn't catch me the way it caught a lot of other kids.

[00:31:30] It was very much just like high energy bullshit like and just like most ridiculous nonsense.

[00:31:35] It was I mean because the whole thing that makes Power Rangers so fascinating is when you discover years later

[00:31:40] that it's actually a westernized version of a Japanese product.

[00:31:46] Because essentially it's basically they took the Super Sentai like footage

[00:31:51] and they basically would take all of the actual like in costume sections

[00:31:56] and then they like film their own footage using American actors

[00:32:00] and then they would inter-splice it together.

[00:32:02] You know I think on some sort of subconscious level that's what always threw me off about it.

[00:32:08] I don't think I ever like actually noticed it like and recognized it for what it was

[00:32:13] but I knew something was off whenever I watched it as a kid

[00:32:17] and I'm thinking that's probably what it was.

[00:32:19] Yeah it's very much dumb...

[00:32:21] It's very much just dumb nonsense fun and that's kind of why I liked it.

[00:32:26] Although I do have a picture of myself when I was like four years old meeting the Red Ranger.

[00:32:32] I think I was the Red Ranger for Halloween multiple years so...

[00:32:35] I might have been.

[00:32:37] Well no, not the Red Ranger. I was the Green Ranger.

[00:32:40] Oh no, I remember what it was. I wasn't my aunt.

[00:32:44] My aunt's only four years older than me so we had a lot of like that kind of stuff together

[00:32:49] but she was the Pink Ranger one year for Halloween.

[00:32:52] That's what I'm talking about.

[00:32:55] But yeah, I always used to watch Captain Planet on Fox Kids.

[00:32:59] Captain Planet. That show is hilarious to me because like I remember

[00:33:04] I think everybody watched Captain Planet but like I don't know a single person who has positive memories of it.

[00:33:10] I loved that show. Personally, I would purposefully get up early so I could watch it.

[00:33:17] I could just like... I never got into it.

[00:33:20] Like I think it was mostly just because I had other things I was into at that point

[00:33:24] but it was always on like in the morning so you kind of just... you just watch it.

[00:33:29] See, I always thought it was funny just because like they all had their power rings

[00:33:33] and then like the kid with like the one that was like the heart it was fucking useless.

[00:33:37] Yeah.

[00:33:38] Like that one never did anything.

[00:33:40] For real.

[00:33:42] It's like oh so mandibles are out of control.

[00:33:44] I'll use the heart to stop their rampage.

[00:33:46] What? It didn't work?

[00:33:50] Shit, let's call Captain Planet.

[00:33:52] I just like the kid with the fire ring. He just set everything on fire.

[00:33:56] Then his main villain was Hitler.

[00:33:59] God, I totally forgot about that.

[00:34:01] I had one of them in one of the versions anyways. The other was it was pollution in another.

[00:34:06] Oh jeez.

[00:34:07] Hitler was in a lot of cartoons back in the day. Like you ever get the hey Arnold episode he was in?

[00:34:12] No, I don't.

[00:34:14] It was one of grandpa's like it was the grandpa like story episodes and apparently he beat up Hitler.

[00:34:19] Oh god.

[00:34:20] It is such a like wild episode to watch now.

[00:34:23] You're just like what the hell is this?

[00:34:28] Yeah, I sure think some of this shows.

[00:34:30] Ed and Eddie was the one that I watched a lot.

[00:34:32] I loved Ed and Eddie.

[00:34:34] So I remember me and Alex you still like we would kind of like Channel Hop like we'd go through like Nickelodeon phases.

[00:34:41] And then we just have like a Cartoon Network phase for a while.

[00:34:45] And then we'd have a Disney phase and then we go back Cartoon Network was always.

[00:34:50] Cartoon Network like during like the cartoon like early cartoon era, their shows were untouchable.

[00:34:58] Yeah, for sure.

[00:35:00] I remember Ed and Eddie.

[00:35:02] I liked Ed and Eddie because it had a satisfying ending.

[00:35:05] Yeah, for sure.

[00:35:07] Which I actually didn't actually see that ending until like way later.

[00:35:11] So I remember watching the big picture shows what it was called.

[00:35:16] Great way to end that series because it really kind of it to me like the all the foreshadowing in that show with like Eddie's brother is like you can tell just like by the way he talks and like how like anytime he thinks his brother is going to show up he's terrified you like you realize real fast his brother is a piece of shit.

[00:35:35] And then once you get the final reveal it's like oh it all makes so much sense.

[00:35:40] Yeah.

[00:35:42] Yeah, that was a.

[00:35:45] See I'd ever saw that one until like way later but the one I always remembered with the friendship day one is like a it's like a TV special.

[00:35:54] Yeah that was a good one.

[00:35:56] I remember I was never edit net because my mom fucking hated that show.

[00:36:00] Yeah, mine too.

[00:36:02] I fucking hate this show back to you guys watch it.

[00:36:06] Trippy is although it was it was definitely a that is like a prime millennial cartoon in my oh for sure.

[00:36:16] There was that one code name kids next door was another big one.

[00:36:21] Yeah, that that show like I like that show a lot but the episodes were hit or miss for me.

[00:36:26] Well yeah some of them are just dumb like but then there was like others that were really memorable like the pink eye episode I hated that one.

[00:36:33] Yeah, that was gross.

[00:36:35] Yeah, there were some real gross episodes but there was also some really funny ones and the delightful children from down the lane were creepy as fuck.

[00:36:43] Well especially the reveal later that you find that they were they were just like brainwashed K&D kids.

[00:36:51] I remember that that was a good show I I still remember the finale of it where it was like half live action half like animated.

[00:36:59] That's bizarre.

[00:37:01] It was kind of like this it was kind of like a document they did it like a documentary where they brought back the cast as adults and the adults were played by live action people.

[00:37:10] That's weird. Yeah, it was really it was it was an interesting interesting finale that's for sure.

[00:37:20] So you said you didn't really.

[00:37:23] You always had trouble finding kids WB so you didn't really watch it too much.

[00:37:28] Because kids WB didn't have its own channel.

[00:37:32] Yeah, it was just WB but like it was only on Saturdays and it was kids WB.

[00:37:38] So kids WB I had to find it and I did find it because that's how I watched a show a series of shows I wanted to bring up in particular the DC animated universe.

[00:37:51] So many of those shows, especially like that time period of DC shows was like the best like animated series Superman Justice League static shock Batman beyond Justice League Unlimited.

[00:38:07] Yeah Batman the animated series to this day still holds up all even the fourth season which isn't as good as the first three.

[00:38:17] And then it's still just as good. I loved it. I mean I'm a huge Superman fan so I love Superman the animated series.

[00:38:24] I need to go through some of those shows again it's been a while.

[00:38:28] They all hold up super well Batman beyond in particular I really liked.

[00:38:34] I just wish that one had a more satisfying ending because it just kind of ends.

[00:38:38] And it's not even like a big thing it just kind of stopped it.

[00:38:42] And that conclusion in Justice League Unlimited there was one episode that kind of explained what have how it ended.

[00:38:51] Because for a while I always like to think that like the movie Batman Beyond Return of the Joker was the ending.

[00:39:00] That would have been a really good definitive conclusion but they did actually do a and they did an actual proper ending to it in Justice League Unlimited later on.

[00:39:12] That's something at least.

[00:39:16] Yeah I always hoped that there would be more like crossover I mean they did do some crossover stuff but like there was a ton of them in Superman.

[00:39:26] Yeah well there's a lot of like with like static shock to crossovers like they had a crossover with Batman Beyond and Batman the animated series and stuff.

[00:39:38] I think Superman had the famous world's finest across three-part crossover with it was where Batman the Joker is running amok in Metropolis.

[00:39:49] So Bruce Wayne has to go to Metropolis to stop him and then there's a whole like subplot there.

[00:39:59] But yeah there was a lot of that kind of stuff like they had the static shock Batman Beyond crossover where static goes to the future and meets his future self and all that.

[00:40:09] Oh yeah I remember that one because it well static shock was funny to me because at first it if you didn't know if you weren't a Marvel I mean not Marvel.

[00:40:18] If you weren't a DC fan I guarantee you wouldn't even have realized that was part of the DC Universe at first.

[00:40:26] I loved early on though how like originally they kind of were like trying to make it seem like it was a that Batman was like they because he read Batman and Superman comics in it.

[00:40:39] Yeah well he'd also talk about how big a fan of Green Lantern he was because this was the time period where it was the black Green Lantern that.

[00:40:51] John Stuart.

[00:40:52] Yes so that was I don't know a lot of their alter ego names.

[00:40:55] So it's really funny about that because Superman the animated series actually was doing a lot of setup for the Justice League show.

[00:41:05] They had the world's finest crossover that everyone remembers there was they did an episode where he races the flash so they introduced a Wally West.

[00:41:13] Yeah.

[00:41:14] And then there was a Green Lantern introduction episode, but at the time they use the current Green Lantern in the books which was Kyle Rainer.

[00:41:23] Who it was.

[00:41:26] So Green Lanterns are really confusing, because there was a so in just for some comic back context.

[00:41:34] In the in the book the comics, there was an event in the 90s where like the the main Green Lantern Hal Jordan went crazy and killed the entire Green Lantern corpse.

[00:41:45] And basically the before the Guardians went extinct they gave the last remaining ring to this random, basically the first person they found who was Kyle Rainer, who was an artist and arguably like the most creative Green Lantern there ever was.

[00:42:01] Then they gradually started reintroducing specific Green Lanterns and then eventually like John Stewart got his ring back and I think the reason John Stewart got his ring back was because the Justice League show because they, when they were starting that they use

[00:42:18] the same set of Kyle Rainer.

[00:42:21] Okay, which is one of the reasons why a lot of people like remember a lot of people vividly remember the John, John Stewart as Green Lantern and they then they'll see like one of the other ones and they'll be like wait a minute, who's that.

[00:42:35] Yeah, static shock was always one of my favorites growing up out of the DC shows because it dealt with a lot of like serious things like gun violence and like gang wars and shit like that.

[00:42:47] Yeah, that was a good one. I wish they crossed I wish it did more after it ended because they he didn't really appear in the Justice League shows other than the future episode where they go to the future and they end up meeting the future static at one point.

[00:43:03] Well, what the crossover I always wanted was I always wanted him to have at least like a special with the Teen Titans and they even reference the Teen Titans at one point in the series but it never goes beyond that.

[00:43:16] So the problem was the Teen Titans show is technically a different universe.

[00:43:25] So the DC animated universe ended with Justice League Unlimited.

[00:43:30] And then Teen Titans was his own thing because they also have the Batman which was that other Batman show from the time, which it was also its own continuity.

[00:43:40] And there was actually because of those shows were all going on at the same time there was actually a embargoes that were going on between each show.

[00:43:49] Like Justice League wasn't allowed to use like any Batman characters aside from Batman because they were all being used in the Batman at the time and Robin couldn't show up because Teen Titans were going on, which is funny because Nightwing appears in one episode at the time as a background,

[00:44:09] which that's the real reason why those two universes aren't connected because Nightwing was already a thing by this point and the Robin in Teen Titans is supposed to be Dick Grayson Robin.

[00:44:20] Yeah, because he encounters himself in the future at one point he's Nightwing.

[00:44:25] Yeah it was it was really confusing because a lot of people don't realize that Dick Grayson hasn't been Robin for like almost I think like 30 years at this point.

[00:44:36] Yeah, because he was he stopped being Robin in like the 80s.

[00:44:43] Because the Robin at the time that show came out was Tim Drake, the third Robin.

[00:44:49] Yeah, that's just I don't know that's just one of those things that always bothered me because it wouldn't bother me as much they never had the static shock Teen Titans crossover but the fact that they had that is a static shot crossover with Batman the animated series

[00:45:04] and the static straight up asks Batman like hey where's Robin and he goes oh it's with the Titans and then they just move on.

[00:45:12] Yeah, which is that's actually an interesting plot hole because so by that point.

[00:45:22] They would have it would have been Tim Drake Robin because Dick was already Nightwing.

[00:45:28] Yeah, that's an interesting like kind of what if kind of like headcanon thing there.

[00:45:35] Yeah, it's one of a kind of a cool thing but.

[00:45:39] Oh another clue that another clue that the Teen Titans show was definitely a different universe is a

[00:45:47] kid flash shows up a few times that's Wally West kid flash and he Wally West was the flash in the DC animated universe by that point.

[00:45:59] Yeah, I don't know when that what the timeframe on the Teen Titans show was supposed to be.

[00:46:03] I have no idea.

[00:46:05] Hard to say honestly.

[00:46:07] That all I know is that show really wanted to be an anime.

[00:46:11] Well I mean I think that was like the big, the big thing is they just wanted to make their own anime with DC characters, which they later would do, which is kind of funny but that that show was very much trying to be an anime.

[00:46:24] And then they, and then it can revived as the Teen Titans go which apparently is pretty good but it's not something I never watch.

[00:46:33] Yeah, as Andrew was into it for a while and it just, it just made me angry.

[00:46:38] It's nonsense.

[00:46:40] They did do a crossover with the original Teen Titans though, which was kind of funny.

[00:46:44] I did hear about that. Do you remember the the Teen Titans like trip to Tokyo or whatever it was?

[00:46:52] I remember that movie.

[00:46:54] They fought the giant goo monster.

[00:46:56] Yep, you can find that it's on it's on max I believe.

[00:47:00] Yeah, a lot of those old DC shows are on max now.

[00:47:04] I was kind of like watching some of them here and there at one point but it's been a bit.

[00:47:10] I have the DVD box sets for all the animated universe shows, but like one of these days I really want to just sit back and rewatch all of those because they are really good.

[00:47:19] Yeah, me too, honestly.

[00:47:21] Maybe that's something we'll have to do in a future episode at some point, even if we just tackle like each show individually.

[00:47:28] I'd like to talk about some of the DC animated movies as well because those are all really good too.

[00:47:33] Hey, would you get back into comics and stuff?

[00:47:36] Maybe the near future is a good time to start.

[00:47:41] Yeah.

[00:47:43] So moving away from cartoons for a bit.

[00:47:49] One of the live action shows that I watched, I still watch to this day because it is like the perfect background noise for when you're doing something else and you just need just something in the background.

[00:48:01] Mythbusters.

[00:48:02] Yeah, we used to watch Mythbusters a lot too.

[00:48:05] I'll still throw it on all the time and just have it in the background because it is great for just like kind of like you need something just to stimulate your brain while you're doing something else.

[00:48:14] Yeah.

[00:48:15] I'd say it was like a, at the time I'd say it was like kind of like the trifecta of those kinds of live action like family shows.

[00:48:24] It was Mythbusters, How It's Made, and Auction Hunters.

[00:48:29] I don't remember Auction Hunters a lot.

[00:48:32] I remember seeing a few episodes, How It's Made there is an entire, I swear like that there's an entire channel just dedicated to how it's made these days because I swear it's always on.

[00:48:41] Oh yeah.

[00:48:42] Well it's one of those shows where it's like that show can go on forever.

[00:48:46] Yeah.

[00:48:47] I think all the episodes are on YouTube as well.

[00:48:49] So it's like, yeah Mythbusters was always fun though just because some of the shit that they would do in that show was just complete bullshit.

[00:48:58] Okay, sure.

[00:49:00] Let's see if this is real or not.

[00:49:02] Yeah.

[00:49:03] But yeah, I always personally loved Auction Hunters just because it was just, it was just a silly show just to throw on and you know that like a lot of like the interplay between the people, like the kind of conversations and like rivalries and stuff.

[00:49:18] A lot of that is just played up for the show but it's still really fun and like seeing the kind of random shit that people would leave in these.

[00:49:28] In these storage units, it's always fun.

[00:49:31] See, I always watched a similar show that came out later called Storage Wars although I'm convinced half that show was fake.

[00:49:41] Yeah.

[00:49:42] Well my favorite whenever I'd watch one of those shows is always when I'd see like one of them would open up and you'd see just a bunch of totes of like comics and like figures and all this stuff.

[00:49:56] some of them kind of like just like walk away,

[00:49:57] shaking their heads like, oh, I don't want this one.

[00:49:59] I'm like, what are you stupid?

[00:50:00] Like any idea how much that shit is worth?

[00:50:03] Well, my favorite now is like in a storage wars,

[00:50:06] there would be episodes where they'd get like

[00:50:07] a unit full of old video games.

[00:50:09] And I'd see them be like,

[00:50:10] oh, they pull out an NES like this is worth

[00:50:12] at least $200 and I'm sitting here going like, no, it's not.

[00:50:15] Like, it's like, no, you're not gonna get like

[00:50:18] any of your estimated prices, but sure, whatever.

[00:50:23] But then there's also the flip side of it

[00:50:24] when they don't open up a big thing of games.

[00:50:26] Like, oh, that's $2 for each one.

[00:50:27] It was like, no, you could definitely get more

[00:50:29] for some of those.

[00:50:30] Like some of them, but a lot of the times

[00:50:32] like they'll open up the bucket of NES games

[00:50:34] and they're like, maybe like $100 for the bin.

[00:50:39] And I'm just like sitting here going like, maybe,

[00:50:42] there might be a gem in there that for all you know.

[00:50:45] Yeah.

[00:50:46] At the best is though, when they're like,

[00:50:47] they pull it on Atari like,

[00:50:48] oh, I can get 300 for this.

[00:50:49] I'm like, no, you can't.

[00:50:50] Like you're not gonna get $300 for a fucking Atari.

[00:50:54] That probably doesn't work.

[00:50:55] Yeah, but I don't know.

[00:50:56] There's just one of those shows that I always enjoyed

[00:50:59] throwing on from time to time.

[00:51:00] Like when I was living in the apartment,

[00:51:02] like I used to watch auction hundreds all the time.

[00:51:06] That was a good one.

[00:51:07] I used to like trucking or shipping wars

[00:51:10] for whatever reason.

[00:51:11] The one where it's like, it's just truckers

[00:51:14] and they like, they fight for bids on like things

[00:51:17] to move and then the whole episode is about them

[00:51:20] taking their little, their like shipments

[00:51:23] across the country.

[00:51:26] It's dumb for shit.

[00:51:27] It's mostly just because they all have personalities.

[00:51:31] That and one of my favorites is like TV tropes,

[00:51:33] you know the website TV tropes?

[00:51:36] I don't think so.

[00:51:38] It's essentially an encyclopedia

[00:51:39] of just like internet terminology

[00:51:41] and like pop culture stuff.

[00:51:42] Okay.

[00:51:43] There's a page for shipping wars

[00:51:45] and it's not referring to the show.

[00:51:47] It's referring to the concept of like romantic ships

[00:51:51] and like media.

[00:51:52] Oh, okay, I gotcha.

[00:51:54] But the description is like, no, no, no.

[00:51:56] This is not the page talking about naval combat

[00:51:59] and no, it's not about the show

[00:52:00] about truckers going across the country

[00:52:02] fighting for business.

[00:52:04] And I'm just like, that's good.

[00:52:06] That's funny as all.

[00:52:08] Yeah.

[00:52:10] What did you ever watch?

[00:52:12] I forget what channel it was on.

[00:52:14] They were on the same channel,

[00:52:15] but it was Mansers and what the hell was it called?

[00:52:20] The Thousand Ways to Die?

[00:52:21] You ever see either of those?

[00:52:22] Thousand Ways to Die.

[00:52:23] I went through a Thousand Ways to Die phase.

[00:52:26] Me too.

[00:52:28] I liked the earlier seasons

[00:52:29] and then it got too fucking graphic

[00:52:31] and I'm just like, this isn't even fun anymore to watch.

[00:52:34] Yeah, and some of them are just bizarre.

[00:52:36] Oh, they're all fake.

[00:52:37] Like a lot of them were fake.

[00:52:39] Oh, I'm sure.

[00:52:40] I mean, did you ever see the number one way?

[00:52:43] I don't remember.

[00:52:44] Cause you know, in every episode they would show

[00:52:47] like, it would be like a mix.

[00:52:49] Like it would be like, oh, this is number 43

[00:52:52] way to die. This is number 362 way to die.

[00:52:54] And they, you know, they,

[00:52:56] it wouldn't be in a specific order.

[00:52:57] They would just throw random ones on there.

[00:52:59] But I just happened to see what the number one was

[00:53:01] at one point and it was like,

[00:53:05] it was like an Asian couple.

[00:53:07] And like, they were like so

[00:53:12] like sexually stilted that they had been married

[00:53:14] for like three years and hadn't had sex.

[00:53:17] And they actually went to go do it.

[00:53:20] And they were so nervous.

[00:53:21] They both had heart attacks during.

[00:53:24] That's a way to go.

[00:53:27] Yeah, some of them were ridiculous.

[00:53:29] Like.

[00:53:29] Or the alcoholic who friggin,

[00:53:32] who like convinced his wife to like give him a beer

[00:53:35] and he died from it, from alcohol poisoning.

[00:53:40] Just drink it dude with the fuck.

[00:53:41] Like the fuck's the matter with you?

[00:53:44] I remember that one.

[00:53:45] I remember the,

[00:53:47] the, yeah, the,

[00:53:49] so this show had a lot of very offensive stuff

[00:53:52] in it too. Nowadays.

[00:53:54] Oh yeah. Both of those shows were,

[00:53:56] yeah, they did not age well.

[00:53:59] Like there was one where they had like this,

[00:54:00] like they were making fun of feminists and like,

[00:54:03] they had, it was like a feminist who mistook a vibrator

[00:54:06] for like an electric taser.

[00:54:08] Oh God.

[00:54:09] Yeah. It was like, oh geez,

[00:54:11] like that, that wouldn't go nowadays.

[00:54:14] How the fuck would you make that to mistake?

[00:54:16] Like, I don't know.

[00:54:18] Tasers and vibrators look nothing alike.

[00:54:21] Their way of showing that she was a feminist

[00:54:23] but she had a sausage and she was cutting it with a knife.

[00:54:26] And I was just like, yeah, that's what they really do.

[00:54:29] I'm sure.

[00:54:31] Oh God.

[00:54:33] That was such a dumb thing.

[00:54:36] Mansers wasn't any better.

[00:54:38] It was honestly a lot worse with that kind of thing.

[00:54:41] You know a show that honestly kind of aged better though,

[00:54:45] but finding the show in its original form

[00:54:47] is almost impossible now.

[00:54:49] The original Jackass show.

[00:54:52] I don't think I ever caught the show.

[00:54:55] You would, you could,

[00:54:56] you'd see reruns every now and then.

[00:54:58] So it's on Paramount Plus kind of.

[00:55:02] It's like a heavily edited version of it

[00:55:04] that isn't exactly accurate to the original.

[00:55:07] Okay.

[00:55:09] That show was funny to me though,

[00:55:11] because it was like the movies,

[00:55:12] but incredibly tame for TV.

[00:55:15] Some goofy shit.

[00:55:18] Yeah.

[00:55:21] Do you ever think of there any more of those kinds?

[00:55:23] Oh, did you ever watch any of the survival shows,

[00:55:26] like Band vs. Wild or Survivor Man?

[00:55:29] Occasionally, I always found them to be kind of stilted.

[00:55:33] Okay, that's fair.

[00:55:36] Over at my dad's house,

[00:55:37] we used to watch that kind of stuff a lot.

[00:55:40] I never really got into like those

[00:55:42] or like the drama shows.

[00:55:43] Like I never got into like Lost or anything or,

[00:55:47] I never got into that one either.

[00:55:48] I remember when that one was like,

[00:55:50] that was like the show to watch for a while.

[00:55:52] Yeah.

[00:55:53] Although I'm starting to kind of regret not watching it

[00:55:56] because I found out later

[00:55:58] that a lot of that was based on Stephen King's The Stand.

[00:56:02] That's interesting.

[00:56:04] So it kind of makes me want to go back and watch it now.

[00:56:11] Okay.

[00:56:12] Yeah, I just remember because it was like,

[00:56:14] that was like the thing for a while.

[00:56:18] I never just, I could never get into it

[00:56:19] because it was one of the shows you had to watch

[00:56:20] every week and I just didn't have the patience.

[00:56:24] I mean, it was hard enough to do it with anime as it was.

[00:56:26] Yeah, no kidding.

[00:56:27] And we got one of those every day too.

[00:56:30] Yeah, at least at that time.

[00:56:32] Rarely in order, but that's besides the point.

[00:56:38] So we haven't brought them up yet.

[00:56:40] Did you go through a sitcom phase?

[00:56:43] I'm still going through one.

[00:56:45] Okay.

[00:56:46] So what was your sitcom of choice back then?

[00:56:50] For me, it was friends, but...

[00:56:54] Yes, the thing is like,

[00:56:57] it took a while before I got to an age

[00:56:59] where I had a sitcom of choice.

[00:57:01] It was really kind of just whatever was on.

[00:57:03] My mom's side of the family would put on Full House a lot

[00:57:07] and well, it wasn't my favorite.

[00:57:09] It was fine at the time.

[00:57:12] But at my dad's house, we watched Fresh Prince

[00:57:15] and that was definitely the one I preferred.

[00:57:18] Yeah, for me it was like Seinfeld was always on.

[00:57:23] Friends of course, that was the big one.

[00:57:24] That was the one that I like.

[00:57:26] I mean, I still watch friends.

[00:57:28] The way I see it is everybody has their one sitcom

[00:57:31] that they absolutely adore

[00:57:32] and then the rest are kind of just making or leave it.

[00:57:36] Yeah.

[00:57:38] Like for me, it's friends, but I do a few other ones.

[00:57:42] Another big one I really enjoyed was Home Improvement.

[00:57:46] Yeah, I like that one a lot too.

[00:57:49] That one definitely had a super naggy feel to it though.

[00:57:51] All right, well, it was just Tim Allen being Tim Allen.

[00:57:53] Yeah, and Roseanne,

[00:57:56] that was another one my mom used to watch.

[00:57:59] I remember Roseanne.

[00:58:02] Married with children, that was another one.

[00:58:05] I didn't watch that one as much.

[00:58:06] So they actually sent me back when we were at Richard's,

[00:58:12] they sent me on a training for like a couple days

[00:58:16] and the TV had no channels,

[00:58:19] but for some reason I can always get married with children.

[00:58:21] So I just watched that.

[00:58:24] It was married in children in the morning

[00:58:25] before I went to the training.

[00:58:27] And then I get back and there was,

[00:58:29] I could get Comedy Central

[00:58:30] and I'd watch nothing but South Park.

[00:58:32] Fair enough.

[00:58:34] Which speaking of South Park.

[00:58:37] Yeah.

[00:58:39] That show's still going and still holds up.

[00:58:43] Yeah, for sure.

[00:58:46] Yeah, that's what I always go back to.

[00:58:49] You can't not.

[00:58:51] And I didn't really get,

[00:58:52] I actually started watching it until I was a little bit older.

[00:58:54] Not like old, old.

[00:58:56] It was like early teenage years

[00:58:58] when I really started getting into it, but.

[00:59:00] To be honest, South Park's a show

[00:59:02] that really isn't for kids,

[00:59:03] because kids just don't get it.

[00:59:06] Yeah.

[00:59:07] We'll see, it's the same thing with like,

[00:59:09] The King of the Hill.

[00:59:11] Like that was always on when I was a kid.

[00:59:12] My dad watching a lot,

[00:59:14] like and all the jokes went right over my head.

[00:59:17] And I just thought it was the dumbest show ever.

[00:59:19] I did not find it funny at all.

[00:59:20] My wife and I watched it all the time.

[00:59:24] Now it's fucking hysterical.

[00:59:27] Propane?

[00:59:28] Propane accessories.

[00:59:29] Model.

[00:59:31] It's great.

[00:59:32] I still remember the first episode

[00:59:34] where with one of my favorite jokes is,

[00:59:38] Bobby is,

[00:59:40] Bobby's all like,

[00:59:42] he's like, I'm gonna be a man now.

[00:59:43] You're gonna get rid of all my kids stuff.

[00:59:45] And he's like talking to the other neighbor's son.

[00:59:47] He's like, all right,

[00:59:48] do you want my Chandler or my Ross?

[00:59:52] And the kid's like,

[00:59:54] Chandler.

[00:59:55] Because he doesn't,

[00:59:56] it's just like, yeah, that's a good joke.

[00:59:58] Yeah.

[01:00:00] Yeah, we just watched the,

[01:00:03] that that's my first episode last week.

[01:00:07] If I would say that to each other constantly ever since.

[01:00:10] That's just a show that like,

[01:00:12] embodies like that time period and like just like style.

[01:00:17] Cause it just,

[01:00:19] there's something about it where

[01:00:20] it's just kind of timeless in a way.

[01:00:23] Oh, it really is.

[01:00:24] Cause like the Simpsons,

[01:00:27] Simpsons seasons three through like eight are untouchable.

[01:00:30] Like that is like the best animated sitcom probably out there.

[01:00:36] But King of the Hill was basically solid all the way through.

[01:00:41] Yeah, for sure.

[01:00:44] Cause I mean, even like a family guy was okay

[01:00:48] for a couple of seasons and it just became family guy.

[01:00:52] It's just the same.

[01:00:53] Like every episode is the same.

[01:00:55] It's, you know, a weird scenario.

[01:00:58] Oh, that reminds me of this time.

[01:01:00] And then we do a flashback.

[01:01:03] Yeah.

[01:01:04] And then we continue the story for five minutes

[01:01:06] and then, oh, we got another flashback scene.

[01:01:08] You know, it's just,

[01:01:09] it's the same formula every time.

[01:01:11] And those kinds of shows have a formulae kind of structure.

[01:01:15] But then you got shows like Futurama

[01:01:17] which doesn't really have that formulae

[01:01:19] kind of just tells different stories.

[01:01:22] That show was canceled like five times

[01:01:24] and it keeps coming back.

[01:01:26] It's back again now.

[01:01:27] Yeah, they finally brought it back

[01:01:29] cause they finally got John DiMaggio to sign on.

[01:01:32] Yeah.

[01:01:33] I love that show cause every episode had like a subtitle.

[01:01:36] And like one of my favorite ones is like,

[01:01:38] like when it came back for like the fourth time

[01:01:40] it was like, it was like Futurama.

[01:01:42] It just won't stay dead.

[01:01:46] I love like the in-universe jokes they make with that too.

[01:01:50] Like a lot of times they've been canceled and stuff like.

[01:01:54] We've been canceled?

[01:01:56] You've done that so many times, it's so funny.

[01:01:59] Good news everyone.

[01:02:00] But idiot network people were fired for incompetence.

[01:02:04] That's great.

[01:02:08] I always remember that one.

[01:02:09] Yeah.

[01:02:10] I remember that one then like when Fry's like,

[01:02:11] Hey look at all those Bart Simpson dolls.

[01:02:17] Such as dumb show.

[01:02:19] I still love the episode where Fry becomes smart

[01:02:21] because he ate the sandwich with the brain worms.

[01:02:23] Yeah.

[01:02:25] Oh man.

[01:02:26] That's another show that I always go back to

[01:02:28] when it was Futurama.

[01:02:29] It's just perfect.

[01:02:32] It had such a good ending though.

[01:02:33] I'm kind of bummed it came back

[01:02:35] just cause now it's kind of like,

[01:02:36] I don't know if they'll be able to end it

[01:02:37] the same way again.

[01:02:40] I'm upset because I bought the damn full series box set.

[01:02:43] Now I don't have all of it anymore.

[01:02:45] The full series box set.

[01:02:47] Whenever you buy a box set like that

[01:02:49] it's like the full series I'm always like,

[01:02:51] sure it is.

[01:02:53] Yeah.

[01:02:53] We'll see in five years.

[01:02:57] It's like the Babylon 5 full complete box set

[01:03:00] is missing like three films that came out after.

[01:03:03] Yeah.

[01:03:05] That's the one thing is I fucked up

[01:03:06] but I got the box set that's just the series

[01:03:09] and it doesn't have the movies.

[01:03:12] So I still need to get the movies at some point

[01:03:14] but there's no huge rush on that.

[01:03:16] It's all Hada Hulu anyway.

[01:03:18] Yeah.

[01:03:23] What other shows am I thinking of?

[01:03:26] Oh, doubling back to Kids WB.

[01:03:28] Did you ever watch any of those like the Jackie Chan adventures

[01:03:33] or Shallon Showdown, any of that?

[01:03:35] Oh, Shallon Showdown I watched all the time.

[01:03:37] That show.

[01:03:39] It's, I won't say it's good still but it's fun to watch.

[01:03:44] Well that show instantly caught me

[01:03:45] cause I'm like, hey look it's Krillin.

[01:03:49] It's such a Dragon Ball parody like Shonen parody.

[01:03:52] It's not even funny.

[01:03:53] Like but it was an interesting show.

[01:03:56] I liked the, what were the little MacGuffins called in it?

[01:04:01] I could not tell you what they were called

[01:04:03] but it was basically like the same name.

[01:04:05] Shen Gang Wu.

[01:04:07] That was over.

[01:04:08] Yeah, Shen Gang Wu.

[01:04:09] I don't know how the fuck you remember that.

[01:04:12] I never would have.

[01:04:13] I have that full series on DVD.

[01:04:15] I found it.

[01:04:16] Dude where the fuck did you get that?

[01:04:18] Cause I've looked for it multiple times

[01:04:19] and I can never find it.

[01:04:21] I found them on eBay.

[01:04:22] I'm like not 100% sure they're real or not.

[01:04:26] They might be a bootleg for all I know.

[01:04:28] The only time I've ever seen that series for sale anywhere

[01:04:31] was at an anime convention and it was super bootleg.

[01:04:34] Like in fact everything at this guy's booth was a bootleg

[01:04:38] and it was very obvious.

[01:04:39] Yeah, I found, I wonder if I can find them again.

[01:04:42] I found the full series.

[01:04:43] There was three DVD sets on eBay like years ago.

[01:04:48] See if they still have them.

[01:04:51] That show was super goofy though.

[01:04:54] Some great voice cast casting though.

[01:04:57] They did a sequel series too, didn't they?

[01:04:59] Yeah, and it sucked.

[01:05:01] Cause that's the only one I can find.

[01:05:03] I can find the sequel series on streaming

[01:05:05] and like random places like that

[01:05:06] but I can't find the original.

[01:05:09] It's also been a while since I've looked though.

[01:05:12] Let's see.

[01:05:14] So you can find the DVDs on eBay still.

[01:05:18] They're kind of all over the place.

[01:05:20] Oh, no shit.

[01:05:22] Maybe they were just out of print

[01:05:23] when I was looking for them before

[01:05:24] and they just randomly came back.

[01:05:27] Either one of these are bootlegs.

[01:05:29] I'm not really 100% sure.

[01:05:33] Yeah, I definitely watched Shilin show down a lot.

[01:05:37] But I also really like Jackie Chan Adventures.

[01:05:40] Jackie Chan Adventures was,

[01:05:41] I love the fact that it's Jackie Chan Adventures

[01:05:43] but Jackie Chan's not involved with it at all.

[01:05:46] He's only there for like those little like

[01:05:48] 30 second clips at the end

[01:05:50] where it just shows him like hitting a punching bag

[01:05:52] or something and it's like a question.

[01:05:54] He wanted like nothing to do with that show apparently.

[01:05:58] Well, he would like, I don't know,

[01:06:00] at least in those little segments or whatever

[01:06:02] he would talk about it like it was cool but...

[01:06:04] I'm sure he got paid a lot of money to say that.

[01:06:07] I'm sure.

[01:06:09] If he really was interested

[01:06:10] he would have played himself in the show.

[01:06:13] True, but I don't know.

[01:06:14] I personally loved that show.

[01:06:18] It was actually really interesting.

[01:06:20] Like I actually had like real story arcs throughout.

[01:06:23] Like I started out really episodic with the talismans

[01:06:25] and stuff but then it kind of goes beyond that

[01:06:27] and like kind of goes into a lot

[01:06:29] of like Chinese mythology stuff

[01:06:32] and then later on Japanese mythology.

[01:06:36] Yeah, I always remember too

[01:06:38] because like those shows all started on Kids WB

[01:06:42] and then after that went away

[01:06:43] they just kind of migrated to Cartier Network

[01:06:48] because that's where Justice League

[01:06:49] and then Justice League Unlimited ended up.

[01:06:51] Yeah.

[01:06:53] Speaking of like superhero shows

[01:06:54] do you remember the 90s Spider-Man show?

[01:06:58] Yes.

[01:06:59] The spider blood, spider blood radioactive spider blood show.

[01:07:03] Yeah, yeah.

[01:07:03] The others started watching that.

[01:07:05] That show is still pretty good.

[01:07:08] Spider-Man lately.

[01:07:09] I still, the fricking the black suit saga

[01:07:13] I can't get over the voice actor for that show

[01:07:15] where he's like,

[01:07:16] knocker, like screaming.

[01:07:20] It's been so long since I've watched it

[01:07:22] but yeah, Xander's been getting super into Spider-Man lately.

[01:07:25] Well, he keeps flip flopping

[01:07:26] between Spider-Man and Star Wars.

[01:07:29] Oh, speaking of Star Wars

[01:07:31] do you remember the original Clone Wars animations?

[01:07:34] The like six minute ones

[01:07:36] that would play like in between blocks?

[01:07:38] The Gen D Tartakoski ones

[01:07:41] the ones that were done by the samurai jack guy.

[01:07:43] I remember them

[01:07:46] but they annoyed me when I was a kid

[01:07:48] because it wasn't any of the same actors

[01:07:49] and I knew it wasn't.

[01:07:51] Yeah, and I mean,

[01:07:53] unfortunately you're gonna have to deal with that

[01:07:55] with these kind of shows

[01:07:56] but like nowadays rewatching them

[01:07:58] they've actually, I still think they're the best things

[01:08:01] that they did post the original trilogy.

[01:08:04] Well, I mean, obviously now I'm at an age where I get it

[01:08:09] but like at the time

[01:08:12] if a voice changed I was like done with it.

[01:08:14] That's why I stopped watching Pokemon.

[01:08:17] Oh yeah.

[01:08:18] So I never noticed as a kid

[01:08:21] except for Inuyasha I somehow noticed that one.

[01:08:27] Yeah, I should have like some other ones.

[01:08:30] Oh, Scrubs was like the first kind of like adult sitcom

[01:08:35] that I started watching.

[01:08:37] I was like really into that for a while.

[01:08:39] So I watched Scrubs when I was

[01:08:44] I was on like a back when I was in like JROTC

[01:08:46] we had like a training we did during the summer

[01:08:50] and I was at the training

[01:08:51] and I remember we'd have like downtime

[01:08:53] and like the TV we had.

[01:08:55] I remember I went on like a Scrubs binge

[01:08:58] during that because it was the only thing I could find

[01:08:59] for a while.

[01:09:01] But I don't think I ever watched it again

[01:09:02] after said a binge.

[01:09:05] It holds up pretty well.

[01:09:07] I've watched it a few times.

[01:09:08] It's been a bit now.

[01:09:11] It was really racy for the time too.

[01:09:13] Yeah, I mean a lot of those shows were like

[01:09:16] it's funny how like certain elements

[01:09:19] of like shows like that will be pretty dramatic

[01:09:23] for the time but then like you watch them now

[01:09:25] and you're like, oh, that's not that bit.

[01:09:27] Yeah, that was just the one thing though

[01:09:28] is like the first like couple of seasons of Scrubs

[01:09:31] was like really cartoony with the jokes and stuff.

[01:09:34] Yeah, like it's weird because it's like at the beginning

[01:09:38] the jokes were super cartoony

[01:09:40] but the characters were pretty solid.

[01:09:43] But then as the show evolved

[01:09:45] the jokes kind of became more like

[01:09:50] like less cartoony

[01:09:51] but the characters were more cartoony

[01:09:53] if that makes sense.

[01:09:56] Yeah, no I get that.

[01:09:57] Like Turk started out like much more

[01:09:59] not like super serious like he would joke around

[01:10:02] and have fun and stuff

[01:10:03] but he was pretty much just a dude

[01:10:06] and then by the end of the series

[01:10:08] he's like given JD piggybacks and shit.

[01:10:17] So did you ever go through like phases

[01:10:19] of just watching like really old stuff?

[01:10:22] Not until I was older.

[01:10:25] So like for me like one of the biggest ones

[01:10:27] I can think of is like when I went back

[01:10:29] and I rewatched all of MASH.

[01:10:31] Okay, I've only caught like a few episodes here

[01:10:34] and there that.

[01:10:36] Yeah, MASH was a big one.

[01:10:38] I went through a whole like period

[01:10:40] where I watched like all of Emergency.

[01:10:43] That was a cool show.

[01:10:47] Old school shows like that were different

[01:10:48] because the humor was a lot less quippy

[01:10:51] and a lot more like it kind of hit

[01:10:54] like it kind of was like I've had a punch to it

[01:10:56] and then it would all of a sudden go back

[01:10:58] to like grim seriousness.

[01:11:00] Yeah, it was different.

[01:11:02] Yeah, I think it wasn't until I really started

[01:11:05] getting into Star Trek that I started

[01:11:07] what like going back and watching older stuff.

[01:11:10] Yeah, cause like one of like the oldest

[01:11:12] like sitcoms I can think of is like Taxi

[01:11:16] with Danny DeVito and like Christopher Lloyd

[01:11:18] and a bunch of older actors.

[01:11:21] Yeah, Andy Kaufman.

[01:11:25] Jeff Conway is in there.

[01:11:28] So it was good show.

[01:11:29] I find like older sitcoms like that

[01:11:32] work better written like Cheers,

[01:11:36] Frasier, like Wings and stuff.

[01:11:42] Yeah, after Francis was born

[01:11:44] we went on an I Love Lucy binge.

[01:11:47] Pretty much I Love Lucy and original Star Trek.

[01:11:50] Nice.

[01:11:52] Oh, and John Wayne movies.

[01:11:54] Nice.

[01:11:57] One show I'd never got into was

[01:11:59] I could never get into the office.

[01:12:04] Yeah, me neither honestly.

[01:12:07] I tried multiple times.

[01:12:08] I just never really appealed to me.

[01:12:10] I tried multiple times and it's just like

[01:12:12] I get why people like it

[01:12:13] but it's like it just does nothing for me.

[01:12:16] It was the same for me with them,

[01:12:18] workaholics.

[01:12:19] Yeah, I never got into that one.

[01:12:22] People would always tell me to watch it

[01:12:23] like a bunch when it was really big

[01:12:25] and I watched a couple episodes

[01:12:27] and I was like, I just don't get it.

[01:12:28] It just doesn't seem funny to me.

[01:12:31] Yeah, it's like that.

[01:12:34] I never could get into how I met your mother.

[01:12:37] That one I actually really like.

[01:12:38] I think that show is hilarious.

[01:12:40] See, I couldn't just because I watched one episode

[01:12:42] like this is a friend's rip off.

[01:12:44] I mean, pretty much.

[01:12:47] But I mean, that's kind of like

[01:12:48] how a lot of these kinds of,

[01:12:50] I mean, also it comes here essentially the same

[01:12:52] when you think about it.

[01:12:53] Yeah, it was also-

[01:12:55] It's different characters.

[01:12:56] It was that one and then also I found out

[01:12:58] like the ending was really bad

[01:12:59] and it kind of just killed any shot of me

[01:13:01] while I'm finishing it.

[01:13:03] It grows on you, honestly.

[01:13:06] Cause the first time I watched it

[01:13:07] I did not like it either.

[01:13:08] And it was the same thing with my wife

[01:13:10] cause we recently like in the past like a year or so

[01:13:13] watched through the whole series together

[01:13:14] and she really liked the show all the way through

[01:13:17] and then she got to the ending and she hated it.

[01:13:20] But like once you give it time to breathe

[01:13:21] and think about it, you start to realize

[01:13:23] that it actually is a good ending for the show.

[01:13:27] Like that's one of those things that does grow on you.

[01:13:29] And then it had a sequel series that was so unnecessary.

[01:13:33] Yeah, I haven't even bothered.

[01:13:40] Well, we haven't even brought up that 70s show.

[01:13:41] That was a big one.

[01:13:42] Yeah, that was gonna come up eventually.

[01:13:46] I watched that show like religiously for a long time

[01:13:48] and I still go back to it.

[01:13:49] I have an IDVD.

[01:13:51] Yeah, I've got the box set as well.

[01:13:53] The final season still kind of sucks, but...

[01:13:55] Yeah, that's not great.

[01:13:57] Cause it was like Eric's gone

[01:13:59] and like Don had just kinda sucks in that season.

[01:14:04] All the characters are super out of character.

[01:14:06] Yeah.

[01:14:09] Except for Leo, but I mean,

[01:14:11] that was just Tommy Chong.

[01:14:14] I mean, I love anything with Tommy Chong.

[01:14:17] The ending was okay.

[01:14:19] I didn't mind the finale.

[01:14:21] The finale was good.

[01:14:22] And now that 90s show is really good too, I think.

[01:14:25] That 90s show, I like elements of it.

[01:14:28] I won't say it's a top show for me by any means,

[01:14:32] but I liked it.

[01:14:34] I liked some of the jokes.

[01:14:36] I'd say when it comes to sequel sitcoms,

[01:14:40] it's top tier.

[01:14:42] It's...

[01:14:43] Because sequel sitcoms generally don't go over well.

[01:14:46] See, for me, my biggest problem with that 90s show was

[01:14:51] I liked it all the way through, but I won't lie.

[01:14:54] I cared more when Red and Kitty were on the screen

[01:14:57] than I did with any of the new cast.

[01:14:59] I was kind of like...

[01:15:01] But whenever the new cast was on screen,

[01:15:02] I would always be like, go back to Red and Kitty.

[01:15:03] I want to see more of their bullshit.

[01:15:05] I mean, let's be real.

[01:15:06] Red and Kitty with the glue

[01:15:07] that held that show together in the first place.

[01:15:10] Well, I just like their whole takes on modern stuff.

[01:15:14] Like when Red discovers the internet

[01:15:16] and he's looking up old actresses.

[01:15:18] Yeah.

[01:15:20] And then Kitty's like,

[01:15:21] oh, find me this whatever actor it was while you're at it.

[01:15:25] And it's just like, I like their dynamic.

[01:15:27] It's still very good.

[01:15:28] Yeah, I love the old movie.

[01:15:30] Oh, God.

[01:15:31] I was gonna say that

[01:15:31] whenever the old cast shows up,

[01:15:34] even though also and Jackie were kind of flanderized,

[01:15:38] but that's besides the point.

[01:15:39] Yeah, I don't like that they ended up together

[01:15:41] in the end.

[01:15:43] Well...

[01:15:45] Season 8 fucked up that entire...

[01:15:47] The voice or whatever.

[01:15:49] Yeah, the whole changes in the final season

[01:15:53] of the original show

[01:15:53] really screwed up their character progression.

[01:15:57] Because she developed a lot from the beginning

[01:16:00] to like season seven and then like...

[01:16:01] Yeah.

[01:16:02] Just all of it's gone now.

[01:16:03] It's like, that's great.

[01:16:05] I really liked the ending

[01:16:06] how she ended up with Fez

[01:16:08] and then they just completely

[01:16:10] just do away with that in that 90s show.

[01:16:13] And he's like a hairdresser.

[01:16:16] Well, he was a hairdresser

[01:16:18] at the end of the original series.

[01:16:20] Was that what?

[01:16:23] Well, he was a shampoo boy.

[01:16:24] That's when it's jobless.

[01:16:26] But was it...

[01:16:26] I forget in that 90s show

[01:16:28] was he like an actual hairdresser?

[01:16:29] Was he doing something different?

[01:16:30] I think he was a hairdresser.

[01:16:31] He'd been promoted by that.

[01:16:32] Yeah, because he was

[01:16:33] because Kitty went to get her hair done

[01:16:34] and Fez was there.

[01:16:36] Doesn't he own the shop?

[01:16:39] I don't remember to be honest.

[01:16:41] I feel like he does.

[01:16:42] And isn't Eric is a Star Wars professor?

[01:16:47] Yeah.

[01:16:49] Eric and Don as cameos were fun

[01:16:52] just because they were like

[01:16:52] probably the most like in character.

[01:16:55] Yeah, but they were kind of like

[01:16:56] the most like I mean out of the kids

[01:16:59] they were like the most wholesome couple

[01:17:00] out of all of them.

[01:17:02] Well, I liked I liked

[01:17:04] Haydn Jackie the most

[01:17:05] just because they had like

[01:17:06] the most development.

[01:17:07] But like unfortunately

[01:17:08] that's never going to be addressed again.

[01:17:10] So no, they didn't even mention him.

[01:17:12] No, they're not.

[01:17:13] You know, I mean obviously

[01:17:15] everyone knows Danny.

[01:17:16] Danny Masterson at this point.

[01:17:18] It's like

[01:17:19] that he ain't been mentioned once

[01:17:21] during the show.

[01:17:22] But something is like

[01:17:23] at least with like

[01:17:25] how Roseanne got canned

[01:17:26] and they turned it into the Connors

[01:17:28] at least they like

[01:17:30] they mentioned the character

[01:17:31] and said oh yeah, she died.

[01:17:34] Like they could they could have

[01:17:36] just wrote it away

[01:17:36] being like oh Haydn's in jail

[01:17:38] for 30 years or whatever.

[01:17:39] You know, like they

[01:17:40] could have just had the one.

[01:17:43] See, I think the difference is

[01:17:44] existed.

[01:17:45] He was there for eight seasons.

[01:17:46] I think the difference is like

[01:17:48] Roseanne Bard didn't

[01:17:51] get canceled for Haydn's stuff.

[01:17:53] She just got canceled

[01:17:54] because she has political views.

[01:17:56] Yeah.

[01:17:57] Danny Masterson is in trouble

[01:17:59] for some pretty serious shit.

[01:18:01] So no, I totally understand that.

[01:18:03] I'm certainly not arguing

[01:18:04] on his behalf, but yeah.

[01:18:06] It's just kind of

[01:18:07] I'm just saying the character

[01:18:08] existed for eight years

[01:18:10] in the series.

[01:18:11] It's just kind of weird

[01:18:12] not to bring them up.

[01:18:13] Yeah, I get why they don't want

[01:18:16] to just because they don't want to even touch that.

[01:18:17] But yeah, it is a little weird

[01:18:20] that they don't even because he

[01:18:21] don't even make jokes about the bait.

[01:18:23] Well, they do find the weed in the basement,

[01:18:25] but they don't make any jokes really about it.

[01:18:27] Hmm.

[01:18:30] That was a fun, fun.

[01:18:31] The.

[01:18:33] It was a fun little like thing

[01:18:35] that I didn't have any hopes for

[01:18:36] when it was announced.

[01:18:37] So.

[01:18:39] It definitely

[01:18:42] was higher than the low bar

[01:18:43] that I expected.

[01:18:45] Yeah, I was expecting it to suck

[01:18:47] and it ended up being pretty good.

[01:18:48] So it was enough for me

[01:18:50] to actually want them to make more.

[01:18:51] So we'll see.

[01:18:52] And it's getting a second season.

[01:18:56] But yeah, that 70 show

[01:18:59] is definitely a big one for me.

[01:19:02] What was that?

[01:19:03] What was the sciencey one

[01:19:05] that came out years later?

[01:19:06] The Big Bang Theory.

[01:19:08] I could never get into that show.

[01:19:10] You see, I liked all the episodes I saw.

[01:19:13] I just never actually sat down to watch it.

[01:19:16] See, it was just kind of like

[01:19:17] whatever happened to be on.

[01:19:19] When that show came out,

[01:19:20] that was that was during like my

[01:19:23] period of like being super emo

[01:19:25] and hating everything.

[01:19:26] So like when that came out,

[01:19:28] I was like, this humor is literally

[01:19:29] everything I hate in the world.

[01:19:32] Which is weird because you think

[01:19:33] that show would be like

[01:19:34] tailor made for guys like us.

[01:19:36] You'd think but it's almost two on the nose.

[01:19:38] And it's like we watch it

[01:19:39] where you just go, yeah.

[01:19:40] Yeah, that's fair.

[01:19:42] Like this is what the world thinks we are.

[01:19:44] Yeah, that's true.

[01:19:46] But also it's kind of a generational thing.

[01:19:48] Like we prefer a lot of people

[01:19:50] in our age group prefer older stuff.

[01:19:53] Yeah.

[01:19:54] For the most part.

[01:19:55] Yeah, I watch Friends

[01:19:57] and that's a show that's meant for like Gen X.

[01:19:58] So.

[01:20:02] I watched a lot of Star Trek.

[01:20:04] Well, not so much lately.

[01:20:05] I go through I've been going through phases of it.

[01:20:08] Yeah, Star Trek is kind of like a

[01:20:11] Star Trek is kind of timeless though in a way.

[01:20:13] Yeah, well, I mean, it's kind of made that way, you know?

[01:20:15] I mean,

[01:20:18] I mean, I watched a lot of Captain Kirk

[01:20:19] when Francis was born

[01:20:20] because obviously this is right after the tree situation.

[01:20:23] We didn't have Wi-Fi for a while

[01:20:25] and I had the DVD sets for the original series.

[01:20:29] I didn't have anything else in the time.

[01:20:30] So we were just watching a shit ton of

[01:20:33] Star Trek the original series.

[01:20:35] Yeah, well, Star Trek really was a progressive show.

[01:20:38] Like there's so much stuff in there

[01:20:40] that like has held up super well even today.

[01:20:43] For sure.

[01:20:44] Even if like early the original series

[01:20:47] is kind of goofy at times.

[01:20:48] Oh, extremely.

[01:20:50] But I mean, some of it is so great.

[01:20:52] Like,

[01:20:54] like I love any episode with the original series Klingons.

[01:20:58] Oh yeah, they're so different.

[01:20:59] Yep, especially in the DS9 episode

[01:21:02] when they go back into an original series episode

[01:21:05] and they see a Klingon

[01:21:06] and they all just kind of look at Worf

[01:21:07] and he's just like,

[01:21:09] we don't discuss it without outsiders.

[01:21:13] At least they got meta about it.

[01:21:15] I mean, my favorite was

[01:21:17] Trouble of Tribble's episode is still one of the best.

[01:21:20] That was actually the episode they went back to.

[01:21:22] Perfect.

[01:21:25] Yeah, that one's classic.

[01:21:29] I still remember-

[01:21:30] I didn't really watch Star Trek as a kid.

[01:21:31] I didn't actually start watching it

[01:21:33] until maybe five or six years ago.

[01:21:37] See, I did watch Star Trek as a kid

[01:21:39] just because my dad was big into it

[01:21:41] and it was almost always on.

[01:21:43] You see, I didn't find out

[01:21:45] until after he had passed,

[01:21:47] but apparently my grandfather was really into Star Trek

[01:21:49] and I'm wondering if maybe I watched it

[01:21:51] with him a couple of times,

[01:21:53] but I don't remember it at all.

[01:21:56] It's possible.

[01:21:57] I mean, I remember as a kid,

[01:21:58] Voyager was still on technically.

[01:22:01] So I remember new Voyager episodes coming out.

[01:22:04] Yeah.

[01:22:06] I don't know.

[01:22:07] I remember my dad watching Enterprise

[01:22:09] whenever that came out.

[01:22:11] My dad really liked Enterprise.

[01:22:14] Yeah, well, I mean,

[01:22:15] that series definitely has its own following.

[01:22:17] I still haven't gotten around to it.

[01:22:20] That's the only one out of like

[01:22:21] the older Star Trek shows that I haven't seen yet.

[01:22:24] It is very slow to start,

[01:22:26] but it gets so good when they canceled it.

[01:22:31] That's the consensus I generally tend to hear.

[01:22:34] Well, because it was the typical Star Trek trend

[01:22:37] where season four is where it really starts to get good

[01:22:39] and they canceled it right at season four.

[01:22:41] Yeah.

[01:22:42] It was like, God damn it.

[01:22:45] That's weird though,

[01:22:45] because I hear a lot of people say that about Voyager,

[01:22:47] but like I was really into those first few seasons

[01:22:51] of Voyager.

[01:22:52] I mean, they're good.

[01:22:53] Towards later on,

[01:22:54] I started kind of getting like mad about it.

[01:22:57] Well, season four of Voyager is like the peak

[01:23:00] of the series because that's really where they get

[01:23:01] like seven to nine in.

[01:23:04] The doctor has his like,

[01:23:06] is probably his best

[01:23:07] because that's when he's really going off

[01:23:08] on his weird character development moments.

[01:23:11] Yeah.

[01:23:13] It had year of hell,

[01:23:14] like all sorts of great episodes.

[01:23:16] Yeah.

[01:23:17] Wasn't that the one where Red was the villain?

[01:23:19] Yeah, Red Forman's the villain.

[01:23:21] That's the best.

[01:23:23] He shows up a bunch of times in Star Trek.

[01:23:25] There's a lot of actors in Star Trek

[01:23:28] that just you wouldn't expect.

[01:23:30] I think he was like the president of Earth

[01:23:31] in one of the movies or something

[01:23:33] where he's like the leader of the Federation

[01:23:34] or something like that.

[01:23:36] Maybe.

[01:23:38] We actually, we respect talking about sci-fi now.

[01:23:41] There was a big sci-fi like boom during the 90s and 2000s.

[01:23:47] There was a ton of sci-fi shows.

[01:23:49] Most of them didn't make it past the season, but.

[01:23:52] Yeah.

[01:23:53] I didn't watch many of them honestly.

[01:23:56] My dad has a bunch of the like season,

[01:23:58] like the complete series because you can find them all.

[01:24:04] I still remember watching

[01:24:05] Battlestar Galactica, the original series.

[01:24:10] It's funny as hell to watch now

[01:24:11] because it's super campy,

[01:24:12] but I prefer it over the 2003 series,

[01:24:17] which just gets way too complicated for its own good.

[01:24:20] Yeah.

[01:24:22] My friend had explained how it ended to me

[01:24:24] and it actually hurt my brain.

[01:24:28] Yeah, those ones are always rough.

[01:24:32] But it's funny, bringing up sci-fi in that time period.

[01:24:36] I never kind of edging to the edge of

[01:24:40] what we could consider TV

[01:24:41] because it's technically an internet show,

[01:24:43] but I watched Red vs. Blue a lot.

[01:24:46] Red vs. Blue was very good.

[01:24:49] The old machinima and roosterteeth days

[01:24:52] back when both those things were still relevant.

[01:24:56] Yeah.

[01:24:58] Yeah, like the first five seasons of Red vs. Blue

[01:25:01] I watched like constantly back then.

[01:25:05] It's insane to me that roosterteeth is dying.

[01:25:08] Like it's going away very soon.

[01:25:10] I think they're already done.

[01:25:11] I think they're gonna close the doors.

[01:25:13] I thought they were finishing up a few things

[01:25:14] and then they were shutting down,

[01:25:15] I don't know, really far.

[01:25:19] Well, I have the first 13 season

[01:25:20] of Red vs. Blue and DVD,

[01:25:22] so I'm not too worried about that.

[01:25:24] Oh, you'll be able to find all of it easily still

[01:25:26] because it's all gonna be on YouTube probably.

[01:25:28] Yeah, and even though they're shutting the doors,

[01:25:32] was it a, is it WB?

[01:25:38] I think WB, well, whoever owns WB owns

[01:25:41] the remains of it.

[01:25:43] Yeah, well, either way,

[01:25:44] like it's not like it's all just going into the ether.

[01:25:46] It's still owned by the parent company anyway.

[01:25:48] So I mean, that stuff still exists

[01:25:51] and I'm sure they'll still sell stuff from it, but...

[01:25:53] They'll keep Ruby going probably

[01:25:55] because that still makes money, but...

[01:25:57] Yeah, it would be stupid of them not to, honestly.

[01:26:02] Yeah, Red vs. Blue is pretty good.

[01:26:12] Yeah, I'm trying to think of anything else.

[01:26:13] Like it was, it's funny because there was a lot of...

[01:26:18] It's fun.

[01:26:19] Yeah, because I watched a lot of the cartoons

[01:26:21] on Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon and stuff,

[01:26:23] but I can't remember a lot of them anymore.

[01:26:27] And there's Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, Catdog, fucking...

[01:26:34] Catdog is a show that I don't think aged very well.

[01:26:37] No.

[01:26:39] It really hasn't,

[01:26:40] because Xander got into it for a while

[01:26:41] when we were at the back of the apartment

[01:26:44] and I would watch it with him here and there.

[01:26:48] Oh, excuse me.

[01:26:49] Um...

[01:26:51] And like, I mean, it was nostalgic

[01:26:54] and I didn't enjoy watching an episode here and there,

[01:26:57] but it wasn't a show I wanted to watch a lot of.

[01:27:01] See, my thing with it was I rewatched it

[01:27:03] and I was like, this is a very unpleasant show.

[01:27:07] It's literally a show about these two brothers

[01:27:11] who are kind of like this weird social outcast

[01:27:14] that everybody in the world hates for no apparent reason.

[01:27:17] Yeah, it's a weird,

[01:27:18] interspecies side of these twins.

[01:27:20] Yeah, and like every episode ends

[01:27:22] with them getting the shit kicked out of them.

[01:27:24] It's like, this is not a fun show to watch.

[01:27:27] And speaking of, how do they poop?

[01:27:30] Like it goes in one end, comes out the other.

[01:27:32] I don't know.

[01:27:34] But is it both ends?

[01:27:35] Like, I don't know.

[01:27:36] I'm so confused.

[01:27:37] I mean, dog's the one you always see eating.

[01:27:41] I mean, that's why cat's so grumpy.

[01:27:42] That would make sense.

[01:27:45] Would make sense.

[01:27:47] Oh, Avatar.

[01:27:50] Yeah, Avatar, that was huge when I came out.

[01:27:53] Huge.

[01:27:55] I still remember the first episode.

[01:27:57] Yep.

[01:27:58] I'm going to the iceberg.

[01:28:00] Watching it weekly.

[01:28:02] Watching it weekly.

[01:28:03] I remember the big events.

[01:28:04] Like I still remember the endings to each season.

[01:28:07] Yeah, especially season one.

[01:28:09] Like that was like a big thing.

[01:28:11] Season one was big.

[01:28:13] The ending to season two

[01:28:14] I think was the biggest wham episode though.

[01:28:16] Oh, for sure.

[01:28:18] It was like Zuko was like just about to like,

[01:28:22] you thought he was going to finally make the turn,

[01:28:25] a full turn to hero and then he fucking goes completely

[01:28:28] the other way and you're like, God damn it.

[01:28:30] Yeah.

[01:28:32] But it was the ending of season one though,

[01:28:34] it was just so like,

[01:28:36] I think that one was the biggest shocker

[01:28:38] because that was the first like,

[01:28:40] holy shit people are dying in this show.

[01:28:43] Like we had at least two deaths.

[01:28:45] Like of like known characters that are just straight up dead.

[01:28:49] Killed the moon.

[01:28:51] The moon and that was that fire general guy

[01:28:54] that know we liked.

[01:28:55] Zhao the moon slayer.

[01:28:57] Yeah.

[01:28:59] Who came back in Korra later on?

[01:29:03] Did he?

[01:29:04] Yeah.

[01:29:05] Korra is a show I tried to like,

[01:29:07] I just couldn't get into it.

[01:29:08] You see, that's the thing for me,

[01:29:10] I treat it like the two full metal series.

[01:29:14] You can't watch them back to back.

[01:29:16] You have to kind of give each one its own room to breathe

[01:29:20] and kind of take them as their own things.

[01:29:23] I just don't think the characters in Korra

[01:29:24] were as likable, like as memorable.

[01:29:27] No, and the world isn't as fun.

[01:29:29] No, well the whole reason why like Avatar

[01:29:31] was such a tightly written show

[01:29:33] is all the characters were very likable,

[01:29:36] they're also extremely flawed,

[01:29:38] which made them all like very like relatable.

[01:29:41] Yeah, well it gave them a chance to grow.

[01:29:42] I mean, what's the point of this no character development?

[01:29:45] Well, it's like, it's one of the reasons

[01:29:47] why I didn't like the live action

[01:29:49] was because like they infamously toned down

[01:29:53] Sokka's like sexist bullshit.

[01:29:54] But that was big part of his character

[01:29:56] cause like he literally four episodes in

[01:29:59] goes to this island of warrior women

[01:30:00] and gets the shit kicked out of him

[01:30:02] for being a douchebag.

[01:30:03] Yeah, by the end of the episode

[01:30:06] he learns to respect women.

[01:30:07] It's like it's character development.

[01:30:09] Yeah, and even then like he still has room to grow

[01:30:12] but like that's the thing with, excuse me,

[01:30:18] with a lot of these like reboots and remakes

[01:30:21] and adaptations of all this oldest stuff.

[01:30:25] Like I understand them wanted to tone down

[01:30:29] a lot of this kind of stuff

[01:30:30] but they got to understand that when it was made

[01:30:32] it was made specifically to be a flaw

[01:30:35] for them to grow out of.

[01:30:36] Oh yeah.

[01:30:37] So it's like you take it away from the beginning

[01:30:39] then you don't give them any room to grow

[01:30:41] and they're just going to be a stale character.

[01:30:43] Yeah, it's, I hate them wanting to edit things

[01:30:49] because of social moments.

[01:30:50] It's like you're killing the point.

[01:30:52] Like it's like the reason they did it that way

[01:30:55] is cause it was different then.

[01:30:56] It's like banning to kill a mockingbird from school

[01:31:01] is because the racism makes the kids uncomfortable.

[01:31:04] That's the point.

[01:31:05] It's supposed to make them feel uncomfortable

[01:31:07] so they don't want to be racists.

[01:31:09] Like duh.

[01:31:13] I could get into a rant about how I hate the school system

[01:31:15] but I'm not going to do that in this episode.

[01:31:17] Yeah.

[01:31:20] For many reasons.

[01:31:21] But that's just how I look at that.

[01:31:24] Like these things exist for a reason

[01:31:27] and they make these characters the way they are

[01:31:29] for a reason and when you have a car

[01:31:31] it ruins it.

[01:31:33] Have a car was just such a tightly written show.

[01:31:36] Yeah, and it's not as long as you'd think.

[01:31:37] Like if you hadn't watched it since you were a kid

[01:31:41] and then you went back to it

[01:31:42] like you remember it being a lot longer

[01:31:43] but it's really short.

[01:31:45] It's only three seasons and they go by.

[01:31:50] Season three is incredibly fast

[01:31:51] but there's so much.

[01:31:52] Xander like when I first introduced it to Xander

[01:31:55] he binged it in a weekend.

[01:31:56] Oh yeah, it's a quick show.

[01:31:58] Well cause it's one of those shows

[01:31:59] that you start watching and you just can't stop.

[01:32:04] I mean it's,

[01:32:06] I've actually rewatched it like twice

[01:32:08] in the last two years

[01:32:09] cause it's just been one of those things.

[01:32:13] It's definitely one of those ones

[01:32:14] that has that staying power.

[01:32:18] Yeah, I mean there's a reason why it's getting the light

[01:32:20] or it's getting a live action reboot

[01:32:22] because it's one of those shows

[01:32:26] that was just like such a phenomenon

[01:32:28] when it came out and it still holds up in everywhere.

[01:32:31] Yeah.

[01:32:33] So you said you watched the new one?

[01:32:36] I've seen a few episodes of it.

[01:32:38] Is it at least better than Shyamalan?

[01:32:39] So I haven't watched it yet.

[01:32:41] Oh yeah, I mean it's better than,

[01:32:41] I mean that's not hard.

[01:32:45] So it feels like it definitely,

[01:32:47] it's trying to be accurate

[01:32:49] but it's just,

[01:32:51] it's one of those things where like it's fine

[01:32:52] but it's like at the same time

[01:32:54] I just like I'd rather watch the original.

[01:32:57] So it's like the live action full metal in that way?

[01:33:01] It's better than that but not by much.

[01:33:04] Fair.

[01:33:06] Like in terms of live action adaptions

[01:33:09] I'd rather watch Veroni Kenshin.

[01:33:12] I'm assuming one piece,

[01:33:14] I'm gonna just assume one piece is better.

[01:33:18] That's probably fair.

[01:33:19] Yeah.

[01:33:21] Yeah it's just kind of one of those things where like

[01:33:23] it's fine but it's like I'd rather,

[01:33:26] I didn't really like it that much

[01:33:28] so I'd rather just watch the original.

[01:33:31] Understandable.

[01:33:33] I also, I kind of had this realization

[01:33:35] that I kind of just prefer animation.

[01:33:39] Yeah, that's true.

[01:33:41] Cause I mean like going back to superhero shows

[01:33:43] like I watched,

[01:33:45] I've been watching some of the live action

[01:33:47] CW shows for DC and they're all pretty good.

[01:33:51] Like I have my hit or miss feelings with a bunch of them

[01:33:55] but like I'll praise it all the time

[01:33:58] but Superman and Lois is like one of my favorite

[01:34:02] versions of the character.

[01:34:03] Yeah, I want to jump back into the CW shows

[01:34:05] but I feel like I need to finish my,

[01:34:08] I need to finish my Marvel journey first

[01:34:12] before I jump back because ironically,

[01:34:15] it's a lot easier to catch up with the Marvel movies

[01:34:17] than it is to catch up with the CW superhero shows.

[01:34:20] Well Superman and Lois is fun

[01:34:23] because that was after they did

[01:34:24] the whole crisis reboot thing

[01:34:26] so like you can kind of watch that one standalone.

[01:34:30] You'll honestly watch a lot of them standalone too

[01:34:32] which is kind of something I like.

[01:34:33] I watched Flash before I watched Arrow.

[01:34:36] Yeah, Flash I'm so conflicted with.

[01:34:40] I personally like Flash a lot.

[01:34:42] I thought it was a great series.

[01:34:43] I like the show.

[01:34:44] I just don't like the fact that it's Barry Allen.

[01:34:48] Yeah, well I mean you can,

[01:34:51] Well here's my thing.

[01:34:52] I'm a comic nerd

[01:34:54] and Barry Allen is a very boring character in the comics

[01:35:00] like because he died in the 80s

[01:35:02] and then he was dead for like all of the 90s

[01:35:05] into the 2000s and they brought him back arbitrarily

[01:35:09] in like 2009 and he's been back ever since.

[01:35:12] But like I've always thought

[01:35:13] that he was more interesting when he was dead.

[01:35:16] That's fair.

[01:35:18] The thing that bothers me about the CW show,

[01:35:22] the show is great.

[01:35:24] My problem is it's Barry Allen

[01:35:26] but everything that makes Barry Allen interesting

[01:35:28] in that show is just stolen from Wally West.

[01:35:32] I mean that's fair.

[01:35:34] And I grew up with Wally as the Flash

[01:35:37] so I've just always had a preference for him.

[01:35:39] But to be fair,

[01:35:43] I mean that's kind of just a theme

[01:35:44] with the CW shows in general

[01:35:45] because a lot of the best Batman villains

[01:35:48] was just thrown into Arrow.

[01:35:51] Yeah, Arrow is an interesting one

[01:35:53] because they've kind of,

[01:35:56] the green arrow was going through a weird period

[01:35:58] when that came out

[01:35:59] because he's like completely a different character now.

[01:36:02] Oh yeah.

[01:36:04] Arrow is fine though, I didn't mind Arrow.

[01:36:07] Yeah, I definitely liked that one.

[01:36:08] I liked Legends of Tomorrow a lot.

[01:36:10] Legends of Tomorrow was really good.

[01:36:12] Supergirl was really good.

[01:36:13] Yeah, they went back in time and met Tolkien.

[01:36:15] It's great.

[01:36:16] And George Lucas.

[01:36:18] Yeah.

[01:36:21] I didn't watch a lot of the other ones

[01:36:22] but I love Superman and Lois.

[01:36:24] That is like,

[01:36:26] Tyler Hoechlin is like,

[01:36:27] I think my favorite live action Superman ever.

[01:36:32] I watched a little bit of Supergirl.

[01:36:34] I watched the first season and a half

[01:36:36] but it just didn't catch me.

[01:36:37] I don't know.

[01:36:40] It gets better.

[01:36:41] I'm honestly not a super big Superman fan

[01:36:46] in general and

[01:36:49] Supergirl is just as uninteresting to me as Superman.

[01:36:54] You gotta get the right arc

[01:36:55] to really get you into him.

[01:36:57] Understandable.

[01:36:59] You'd probably like Superman and Lois though

[01:37:01] because that show's very interesting.

[01:37:05] Well, I mean, at some point

[01:37:06] I'm gonna go through all the shows.

[01:37:08] Like I said, once I finished my Marvel journey

[01:37:10] I'm gonna double back and hit the CW shows.

[01:37:17] Yeah, trying to think other than that

[01:37:19] I think we've really kind of covered it.

[01:37:20] We gave like a basic kind of rundown there.

[01:37:22] I mean, we could probably go deeper

[01:37:24] into a lot of these shows.

[01:37:25] If I actually took the time to like

[01:37:26] write out a list of all the shows

[01:37:28] I watched back in the day

[01:37:29] we could definitely talk about a lot more.

[01:37:32] This is just,

[01:37:33] this was literally just straight off the cuff

[01:37:34] off the top of our heads.

[01:37:36] I mean, we could probably do a full episode

[01:37:38] about shows like Avatar.

[01:37:40] I mean, we've already done stars like episodes.

[01:37:43] We're gonna cover,

[01:37:44] we'll talk about the DC animated universe

[01:37:46] definitely in full at some point.

[01:37:49] But yeah, I think this might actually be a good point

[01:37:51] to cut this off just cause

[01:37:53] I mean, I gotta work tomorrow, unfortunately.

[01:37:55] Yeah.

[01:37:57] But yeah, so we'll probably revisit this topic

[01:38:00] in the future, but until then guys,

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