Geek Addicts - Episode 24: Yu-Gi-Oh! Retrospective Part 2: Electric Boogaloo!

[00:00:00] The following is a GNC Podcast production.

[00:00:30] Welcome to Geek Addicts, a pop culture podcast.

[00:00:37] The car comes right at the intro.

[00:00:44] Hey everybody, welcome to Geek Addicts, the pop culture podcast where Matt does intro

[00:00:51] is better than me because my brain's a mess right now.

[00:00:56] How you doing, Matt?

[00:00:57] I'm doing all right.

[00:00:58] To be fair, I flubbed the last one.

[00:01:02] That's fair.

[00:01:03] That's our show.

[00:01:04] It's supposed to be kind of raw like that.

[00:01:08] Yeah.

[00:01:09] If you didn't notice, just in case it comes up to you or any of the video

[00:01:15] listeners, my beard is uneven right now.

[00:01:17] That's because I found a tick under my beard earlier today.

[00:01:22] My wife had to cut out a chunk of my beard to get at it.

[00:01:25] So now it's all choppy.

[00:01:27] I'm going to have to shave it all off now.

[00:01:29] That's always never good.

[00:01:31] Yeah.

[00:01:33] It's like that Drake and Josh episode where like, Josh has the mustache

[00:01:37] and then like they shave off half of it.

[00:01:39] So he draws in half with Marker.

[00:01:41] But then like everyone thinks it looks dumb.

[00:01:43] So he shapes off the other half but he can't get the Marker half off.

[00:01:46] So they draw it.

[00:01:48] So they just draw in the other half.

[00:01:50] Classic.

[00:01:52] What about all about that episode?

[00:01:54] I don't know why that just comes to mind, but that was the thing.

[00:02:00] Despite the kind of somber tone of this week,

[00:02:04] I did get some pretty good news that the Dragon Ball Super hiatus

[00:02:09] apparently is only for this month that we'll be coming back in May.

[00:02:13] So that's cool.

[00:02:14] That's good.

[00:02:15] Yeah.

[00:02:16] If anyone's wondering, I guess at the time of this,

[00:02:18] this episode's recording because

[00:02:22] the GNC Geek Addicts 3DO, they all kind of have,

[00:02:25] 3DO is the only one that releases consistently the day of every week.

[00:02:30] Geek Addicts were kind of ahead a few weeks,

[00:02:32] a few days, a couple weeks and then 3DO GNC's ahead a couple weeks.

[00:02:37] Unfortunately, Alex's cat Tilly passed away last night.

[00:02:44] And yeah, it's been a rough week for everyone involved.

[00:02:50] Yeah.

[00:02:51] So you've probably, by this point, already seen the messages on Twitter and everything.

[00:02:55] But yeah, if anyone could just like send their energy to her

[00:02:59] because she's having a really rough time right now.

[00:03:01] Yeah, for sure.

[00:03:02] I can imagine.

[00:03:05] And then the rest of my week was just being exhausted because

[00:03:10] I swear, like when it rains a lot,

[00:03:13] it just like completely just kills any of your energy for the week.

[00:03:17] Yeah.

[00:03:18] And it's between that and

[00:03:21] my mom usually takes my daughter every other weekend.

[00:03:24] And that's like my one day to sleep.

[00:03:27] And last weekend was supposed to be the weekend,

[00:03:29] but through a series of, you know,

[00:03:33] prior engagements that my mom had, she wasn't able to.

[00:03:37] So I've got this is that my third week without having that one day.

[00:03:43] So on.

[00:03:44] And today in particular, she was, she was rough.

[00:03:47] So I'm a, I'm a struggle a little bit myself, but it comes to rest.

[00:03:53] I hear you.

[00:03:54] I can't say I finally turned the heat off.

[00:03:56] So that was a good sign.

[00:03:57] There you go.

[00:03:59] Yeah, I was definitely on the warmer side this week.

[00:04:01] I'm happy about that.

[00:04:02] Yeah.

[00:04:03] It was up to 70 in Connecticut on Tuesday.

[00:04:06] Oh really?

[00:04:07] We got up to like the low 60s, which is still really good, but

[00:04:12] anything's better than snow at this point.

[00:04:16] I do want to preface the episode just by the preemptive apology.

[00:04:22] I've been fighting a cough all week.

[00:04:24] I dosed myself with dayquil and I have a handful of cop drops here

[00:04:29] just in case, but I'm going to try to fight it off as much as I

[00:04:32] can while we're recording, but there are,

[00:04:34] is the possibility that I might just go off on a coughing spurt.

[00:04:38] It's all right.

[00:04:39] People watching the video version are going to be like,

[00:04:41] why does Bill look like he's like,

[00:04:43] has aged like two years over the corner there?

[00:04:47] I have not slept a grade in a while, but,

[00:04:50] and especially yesterday.

[00:04:52] I can imagine.

[00:04:55] But other than that though,

[00:04:58] I've kind of taken an anime break for a bit because you know

[00:05:01] how you'll get animated out.

[00:05:04] And then you need to move on from other things.

[00:05:07] I've recently gotten back into American comics.

[00:05:12] So that has been kind of my hobby lately and boy,

[00:05:17] did I miss a lot.

[00:05:19] I didn't realize Wally West was the main flash again.

[00:05:24] Oh, which I'm all for because he's the best flash.

[00:05:29] Fair enough.

[00:05:31] Yeah.

[00:05:32] I'm, I've been kind of like in a weird state with anime too.

[00:05:35] Like I've watched a few new shows here and there,

[00:05:38] like new to me at least.

[00:05:41] But mostly,

[00:05:44] I've been kind of like not necessarily bearing away from anime,

[00:05:47] but a lot of times when I have been watching it,

[00:05:49] mostly been rewatching old stuff or catching up on stuff that

[00:05:55] I've already like I've been rewatching Kai.

[00:06:01] Well, I tried to rewatch the last arc of Yu-Gi-Oh!

[00:06:05] in preparation for this episode,

[00:06:07] but just through weekly bullshit,

[00:06:11] I was only able to get through like maybe two thirds of it.

[00:06:16] So I mean, I got, I got a decent amount,

[00:06:18] but at the same time,

[00:06:19] like the English dub of that arc probably isn't the most accurate anyway,

[00:06:25] which is why I had like at some point like to cover the manga part of it,

[00:06:28] but yeah, my problem with anime right now is that I don't want to jump into a show

[00:06:35] when I just don't have the time commitment at the moment to actually get into it.

[00:06:39] And that's the thing about anime is when you watch it,

[00:06:42] you really want to pay attention to what you're watching.

[00:06:44] Yeah, for sure.

[00:06:46] It's not like I can just throw on some like myth busters or something in the background

[00:06:50] and just use it as background noise while I do other things.

[00:06:54] Yeah, I did.

[00:06:55] I did watch a new one this week though,

[00:06:57] because the English dub for Sand Land dropped.

[00:06:59] I saw that.

[00:07:00] I got to get around to it.

[00:07:02] Hopefully one of these weeks will calm down enough so I can actually watch some stuff, but...

[00:07:07] It's only seven episodes.

[00:07:09] So it's fairly short.

[00:07:11] I mean, it's pretty much just the movie chopped up in episodes.

[00:07:14] And then there's one more extra episode,

[00:07:17] which is supposed to be like leading into another arc that was made specifically for the series.

[00:07:22] So that's pretty cool though.

[00:07:25] I did get the Sand Land manga book recently.

[00:07:28] Oh, yeah, that's right.

[00:07:30] Because they just re-released it.

[00:07:32] Nice.

[00:07:34] Yeah, the Sand Land series, it looked a lot like the superhero movie,

[00:07:40] like the animation style was...

[00:07:42] It was pretty much all CG, but it looked like almost exactly like it.

[00:07:47] But obviously like the aesthetic of it was different because it was a completely different setting

[00:07:51] and everything, but all told though, the animation was really nice.

[00:07:56] And I really liked the opening theme.

[00:08:01] It's pretty good.

[00:08:02] Nice.

[00:08:04] Very good.

[00:08:07] Yeah, not much else to add this week.

[00:08:09] It was just one of those unfortunate weeks where nothing great really happened.

[00:08:14] But for this Friday though,

[00:08:18] we're going to continue our Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion that we alluded to.

[00:08:22] Yes, yes.

[00:08:23] Because we did not have enough time last week to cover everything and Yu-Gi-Oh! is like a rabbit hole that never ends.

[00:08:30] Yeah, which you wouldn't think it is when it's a TV show about card games.

[00:08:35] You wouldn't think it would be that immersive or wouldn't have as much depth to it.

[00:08:42] Which a lot of people watching the English version wouldn't think it has a lot of depth,

[00:08:45] but there's a lot more than you would think.

[00:08:47] You know, it's funny.

[00:08:48] We didn't mention it at all during the last episode, but do you remember?

[00:08:52] So obviously Yu-Gi-Oh! was a big threat to Magic the Gathering at the time,

[00:08:58] which was and still probably is the definitive card game,

[00:09:02] like most of the Dominic card game out there right now.

[00:09:06] That game has always been known notably created by Wizards of the Coast.

[00:09:12] And do you remember Wizard of the Coast's attempt at a Yu-Gi-Oh! competitor?

[00:09:17] No.

[00:09:19] So do you remember Dual Masters at all?

[00:09:22] Oh, yes. Yes, I do remember Dual Masters.

[00:09:25] So Dual Masters, I believe, was Wizard of the Coast's attempt at copying Yu-Gi-Oh! basically.

[00:09:33] Well, I didn't realize that was the same people as Magic.

[00:09:36] I believe it is. I might be completely wrong in that, but I swear that's where...

[00:09:41] Because I think Dual Masters is basically just Magic the Gathering, but anime looking.

[00:09:47] That's about right.

[00:09:49] Yeah, Dual Masters was a thing that I remember thinking the whole time like this is just like the most shameless Yu-Gi-Oh! ripoff ever.

[00:09:56] Yeah, even just using the word dual was just like...

[00:10:01] It was...

[00:10:02] It was really going out there.

[00:10:05] It was very much like one of those things, even the main protagonist, just like very Yu-Gi looking.

[00:10:17] I'm getting a lot of glare. I can't really see it.

[00:10:20] I try.

[00:10:21] I'm gonna do this.

[00:10:23] No, it's not going to work.

[00:10:25] Yeah, a little bit, but I can kind of see the hair.

[00:10:29] Either way, very much a Yu-Gi-Oh! looking style.

[00:10:35] I mean, I might be pulling this out of my butt, but I swear this was like a...

[00:10:43] Very much an attempt at basically competing with Yu-Gi-Oh!

[00:10:48] It's kind of funny because I remember when I first heard about Magic the Gathering,

[00:10:54] like some people were talking about, like, oh, do you collect Magic cards or whatever?

[00:10:58] I'm like, well, yeah, I got Magic cards.

[00:11:00] I got Trap cards.

[00:11:01] I got... what are you talking about?

[00:11:02] I got all sorts of cards.

[00:11:04] Oh yeah, it was...

[00:11:05] It just didn't click in my head whenever somebody said Magic cards.

[00:11:08] I mean, they call them spell cards now, but yeah.

[00:11:13] So I just did look it up.

[00:11:14] The Dual Masters trading card game was made by...

[00:11:16] Was it the Coast?

[00:11:18] In conjunction with Tomi over in Japan.

[00:11:22] Okay.

[00:11:23] But yeah, it was definitely...

[00:11:25] Just looking at it, you can tell it was very much an attempt at competing with Yu-Gi-Oh!

[00:11:30] which was the dominant card game at the time.

[00:11:34] Yeah, I always remember that one.

[00:11:38] I just thought it was funny.

[00:11:39] Like, that was like probably the most blatant...

[00:11:44] Yeah, I'd say so.

[00:11:46] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:11:50] Yu-Gi-Oh! was such a weird monster, really.

[00:11:55] It still is, really.

[00:11:56] It's still going, so I can't even say it was.

[00:11:59] Yeah, like the anime is still going.

[00:12:02] The cards are still...

[00:12:03] The card game is barely recognizable these days.

[00:12:06] Yeah, for sure.

[00:12:07] That's how many different synchro monsters and other weird shit that I have.

[00:12:14] It's too complicated for me now, so I'm out.

[00:12:17] See, I can wrap my head around the synchro monsters.

[00:12:19] It's like when you start getting into Pendulum, Link and all that.

[00:12:23] What even is this?

[00:12:25] Anything beyond the original game is too complicated for me.

[00:12:29] And I'm just like, nah, I'm good.

[00:12:32] I feel that.

[00:12:34] If I want complicated stuff like this, I'll just go play an RPG or something.

[00:12:38] Yeah, no kidding.

[00:12:40] See, we left off with...

[00:12:45] We can talk about Waking the Dragons.

[00:12:48] Yeah.

[00:12:49] Like we mentioned how that...

[00:12:51] Well, I mentioned how I don't like this arc very much at all.

[00:12:56] Mostly because it starts off on a pretty low note with the Egyptian God cards getting stolen

[00:13:02] within an episode.

[00:13:04] Yugi's grandfather getting fucking beaten up again.

[00:13:08] Which ironically is how the next arc starts as well.

[00:13:12] He really is the puncher.

[00:13:14] Alex really was right when he has the most punchable face in the series.

[00:13:18] I'd say it's probably a time between him and Mochibur.

[00:13:21] True.

[00:13:22] Because that arc also starts with Mochibur being kidnapped again.

[00:13:26] Well, of course.

[00:13:28] You know what really pisses me off about the God cards getting stolen

[00:13:32] and Yugi's grandfather getting beaten up?

[00:13:34] Was that?

[00:13:35] It was by fucking Weevil and Wrex of all people too.

[00:13:38] Yeah.

[00:13:40] Yes, they were brainwashed by the Seal of Orikalk Ghost bullshit, but still.

[00:13:45] Yeah.

[00:13:46] It's just...

[00:13:48] I don't know.

[00:13:49] There was some things about that arc that I kind of liked,

[00:13:52] but at the same time,

[00:13:54] like some of those things that I did like kind of get erased with the following arc,

[00:13:59] the final arc.

[00:14:01] Yeah.

[00:14:02] The thing about this arc to me a lot,

[00:14:05] just by watching it is you can clearly tell this was just filler.

[00:14:09] Yeah.

[00:14:10] Because like nothing from this arc sticks for the most part when we get to the next,

[00:14:15] to the actual final arc.

[00:14:17] Yeah.

[00:14:18] Which for the record, for anybody who already knows,

[00:14:22] there was a small like little mini arc in between,

[00:14:27] Waking of the Dragons in the final.

[00:14:30] But there's really nothing to say about it.

[00:14:32] It's just another little tournament and it's really inconsequential.

[00:14:37] I always remember how it starts where they're just all chilling after Yu-Gi gets his body back from the Seal.

[00:14:44] And they're all just chilling there and then like the little girl from Season 1 is there,

[00:14:49] but now she likes Yu-Gi for whatever reason.

[00:14:51] Yeah.

[00:14:52] And then some other random chick shows up and she's got a super boner for Yu-Gi too.

[00:14:58] Why are...

[00:14:59] Yu-Gi is swimming in mad bitches.

[00:15:02] He's got bullshit main character powers that just comes to the territory.

[00:15:06] But do they actually like Yu-Gi or do they just like the Pharaoh?

[00:15:11] I think Tay is the one that's debatable.

[00:15:14] Yeah, Tay is debatable.

[00:15:15] I think the other two just like Yu-Gi because he's like the top dog.

[00:15:19] Yeah.

[00:15:22] But yeah.

[00:15:24] So the last arc, I think it's called Dawn of the Duel.

[00:15:32] It's what we jump back in.

[00:15:34] The only plot dump of the arc.

[00:15:36] Yeah, right?

[00:15:37] Because it starts off with like this really like kind of horror movie type of scene with Bokora like fighting with his evil side or whatever.

[00:15:48] Excuse me.

[00:15:50] And like ultimately, so Rex and Weevil come in, they steal the shit again.

[00:15:57] But they steal the bag with all the millennium items in it because Yu-Gi just at this point has like a bunch of them.

[00:16:03] Yeah, that's true because he gets the ring.

[00:16:05] He gets the rod, the eye, the necklace.

[00:16:11] So the evil spirit of the ring.

[00:16:16] This is the part that kind of confuses me a little bit because Bokora shows up and takes the ring.

[00:16:23] But he was already evil Bokora when he showed up.

[00:16:27] So if the evil Bokora is in the ring, then...

[00:16:32] Well isn't it kind of like in season one where Tristan throws the damn thing off the roof and it still somehow makes its way back to him?

[00:16:39] Yeah, just kind of like appears around his neck again.

[00:16:43] But this time you actually see him take it from the bag and put it back on.

[00:16:47] So it's like, what's going on here?

[00:16:51] I think I read that the ring is just permanently bonded to him or something.

[00:16:56] I mean, I guess that kind of makes sense.

[00:16:59] And also you'll also find out that the evil spirit's name is also Bokora, which is just weird.

[00:17:09] Probably more symbolism and fate shit like Yu-Gi and Kaiba and everything.

[00:17:15] Something like that, I don't know.

[00:17:18] But yeah, so he takes the ring back and then he dips out.

[00:17:25] And then he goes and challenges Kaiba and then he dips out of that duel midway through.

[00:17:31] Because I guess he just wanted to steal Blue Eyes power and then he gives him the millennium eye because apparently that's going to convince him to go to Egypt.

[00:17:40] Have Pegasus' eye.

[00:17:44] Yeah, he's like, here's that thing that stole your soul that one time.

[00:17:49] Yeah.

[00:17:50] And how did he steal power from a hologram or are we getting into weird magic bullshit now?

[00:17:56] Well, I mean, you can make an argument in this case because if you're using a millennium item then the barge chairs can be real.

[00:18:04] That's true.

[00:18:05] So you can make an argument for that.

[00:18:07] But yeah, ultimately they all go to Egypt and I guess the way that it was supposed to be was the Pharaoh was supposed to show the Egyptian God cards to the big stone tablet.

[00:18:21] And that was supposed to get him his memory back, but instead he gets sucked into the world of his memories.

[00:18:26] So he got sent back to ancient Egypt on the day of his coronation to become Pharaoh.

[00:18:35] Yeah, this arc is where shit just gets like, you know, the first, the first like four arc, well, the first, the first four arcs.

[00:18:44] Yeah.

[00:18:45] Like everything up to this point was pretty straightforward for the most part.

[00:18:49] Making the dragon's got a little wacky at times, but for the most part everything made sense.

[00:18:53] Like it was pretty like plot starts here ends here like no crazy plot going on.

[00:19:00] This one straight up starts and it's like exposition now.

[00:19:05] Yeah.

[00:19:07] So yeah, so it jumps back and there he's an ancient Egypt now.

[00:19:13] Everybody else is just back at the stone tablet like what the hell happened and ultimately they end up going there to kind of shows up.

[00:19:22] He gets sent back that member way back before when the core put a little piece of his soul into the money puzzle.

[00:19:30] Well, that's how he ended up in a digit as well because that little piece followed the Pharaoh.

[00:19:35] So it's came this whole convoluted thing where everybody who matters in the show ended up an ancient Egypt.

[00:19:43] And this is where Bacour really solidifies himself as the true, the true G villain of Yu-Gi-Oh because literally the way he shows up in this arc.

[00:19:57] He, he raids the Pharaoh's father's tomb steals a bunch of shit and drags his corpse to the coronation.

[00:20:08] Yes.

[00:20:09] Like, and this is a kid show for kids allowed that like four kids allowed that but one piece was too much.

[00:20:16] Yeah, right?

[00:20:18] That was ridiculous. But that was like the first time I saw that Yu-Gi-Oh was much like like a Yu-Haka show for me like I watched a bunch of it growing up but I only saw like the first half because actually in both cases the big tournament was where I stopped.

[00:20:34] So when battle city was over and I didn't watch any more of that until I was older.

[00:20:41] I watched all this for the first time as an adult or at least late teenager. I'm not 100% sure but yeah I was, I was not expecting that level of like villainy.

[00:20:52] Like, you see a lot of villain stuff throughout the show.

[00:20:56] The massive irony behind Bacour is like he's like the big villain of the series in like greater scope villain but like regular Bacour like the actual kid.

[00:21:07] He is so pathetic, like all the time. Like when he got run over by the inflatable ball in the first season.

[00:21:14] Yeah. I forgot about that.

[00:21:16] He gets like a shit kicked out of him in like battle city and that's why he's like fucked up.

[00:21:21] Yeah. And we'll get to Dark Side of Dimensions later.

[00:21:26] But yeah there was just, there was so much about this art that I like. You get a lot of backstory.

[00:21:34] Like when the Pharaoh shows up in the past he's looking around at all of his like I guess apostles. His priests I guess.

[00:21:44] And like half of them are just ancient versions of people he knows in the future.

[00:21:50] Yeah because I think one of them Joey, one of them Teah, like a bunch of stuff like that.

[00:21:54] No they're not, they don't have any ties to Ancient Egypt.

[00:21:58] Oh no I'm thinking of Forbidden Memories.

[00:22:01] It's the ancient Kaiba which we all expected. There is Anishizu and Odeon and Yugi's grandfather.

[00:22:12] Yes. I think Yugi's grandfather is actually the guy that's like in Forbidden Memories in particular.

[00:22:20] He's actually the guy at the start of the game that's kind of like routed in like mystery.

[00:22:24] Yeah he's got the mask.

[00:22:26] Yeah and he looks like he's got blue skin but he's actually, it's just that it's the supposed to imply that it shadows.

[00:22:34] Yeah. It's, I think they pronounce it Shimon but it's spelled Simon.

[00:22:41] So yeah you meet all of them and this is where it gets kind of wonky because Waking the Dragons made it seem like there's a whole alternate universe where all these monsters live and that's where they come from.

[00:22:54] But almost immediately after jumping into this arc, you find out that no, these monsters are actually born of human hatred and they're tied to an individual's soul.

[00:23:07] Somehow I feel like the guy, the team that wrote Waking the Dragons wrote the season based off of like everything that happened in the first couple seasons and didn't actually read the manga to find out what happens later.

[00:23:18] So yeah that's kind of where, how you find out where everything comes from.

[00:23:25] Like for instance Exodia was the monster for Simon.

[00:23:32] And that's kind of where that connection is made, how Yuki's grandpa had the Exodia cards and all that.

[00:23:42] But like already just in like this first episode or two of this arc, way more interesting than anything that came before it.

[00:23:49] Yeah it's almost like it's a different show all of a sudden.

[00:23:51] It really is because in this whole arc, not counting the final duel between Yuki and the Pharah, there's two card games in the whole arc.

[00:24:03] You know what the first half of Yuki reminds me of as a show? Like it's very similar to.

[00:24:08] What's that?

[00:24:09] The original Beyblade show.

[00:24:11] Yeah, yeah.

[00:24:13] Where it's like there is like character interaction and stuff but it's mostly about the Beyblade battles.

[00:24:19] They remind, they're very similar in that regard and then like I think they also get surprisingly deep the farther they go in as well.

[00:24:27] See I watched Beyblade as a kid and I loved it but I didn't follow it as closely as I did with Yuki.

[00:24:33] Beyblade just got too ridiculous for me after a while like with the point where like there's a door and they're using the Beyblade to open a door and it's like you could have just opened the fucking door.

[00:24:42] Like that's fair.

[00:24:44] Stuff like that.

[00:24:45] Actually I think Yuki was equally ridiculous with that kind of show.

[00:24:49] I think the moment where I lost it with Beyblade was when there was the entire team based around sports and they were using tennis rackets to launch their Beyblades at one point.

[00:24:58] Jesus Christ.

[00:24:59] Well for me it wasn't even the, the reason why it was more difficult for me to follow along with Beyblade is because it was only on like the 80s family or something and it was like.

[00:25:11] Fox kids.

[00:25:12] Far, or something like that but it was only on at like five o'clock in the morning so.

[00:25:16] Yep, right after right after Pope power right after.

[00:25:20] Get the first show it was like it was.

[00:25:22] Was it Captain Planet something like that you watch your Beyblade then you watch your Power Rangers.

[00:25:28] And then you did you mod that was Saturday morning every.

[00:25:33] Yeah, so it was always on super early is that's why I didn't catch it as often I would like to go through at least that first series again.

[00:25:41] Yeah, the Beyblade v fours and G Revolution I believe.

[00:25:47] Yeah, with like the one that the game the GBA game I have is based on.

[00:25:53] Yes, it's those three original series with the forget what the main characters name is at this point but a Tyson.

[00:26:05] That sounds right.

[00:26:07] I played the game recently that's the only reason I know.

[00:26:12] That reminds me too because there was also that NASCAR cartoon that was on Fox kids at the time.

[00:26:17] Oh yeah.

[00:26:19] It's that was a cartoon back in the day.

[00:26:22] That was it the cars used buzz saws it was really like what the fuck am I watching here.

[00:26:31] So yeah, what it really starts going deep into like the history of like, like you learn about like the origin of a lot of the monsters like you find out that the blue eyes white dragons origin is actually it was the soul monster of a well set those girlfriend.

[00:26:50] I gotta be careful there because ancient Kyva is just that so.

[00:26:57] So the blue eyes is the spirit of his girlfriend. Yeah, and she has blue eyes and white hair. It makes so much sense why he's obsessed with that card. Yeah he like saved her from like slavers or something.

[00:27:10] It makes so much sense when they were kids and then they meet up later on as this whole thing.

[00:27:18] So we learn the origin of the millennium items, which apparently they were created by sacrificing a village, which makes them very similar to philosopher stones and full metal optimist.

[00:27:32] Yes, a little but see and this is this is where it gets kind of mixy because I've only ever watched it and I've only watched the four kids dub.

[00:27:43] I don't know how accurate a lot of visits probably not super accurate knowing for kids because there's a lot of contradictions that I don't know if that's in the bones of it or if it's just as a result of dubbisms.

[00:28:01] But like for instance, like in the in the show they say that it's like, like the whole village was evil and that's why they had to be sacrificed it was all evil souls that went into them and that's why they have such dark powers and all sort of stuff but I mean it could have just been a random village.

[00:28:19] But, but basically the the previous Pharaoh, which would be a 10 this father.

[00:28:32] His brother figured out a plan to go and kill this whole village use them as sacrifices, like a ritual to create the blame items because there was this big force that was going to attack Egypt.

[00:28:45] And tell everybody and take over whatever.

[00:28:49] So they were going to make the blame items so that they could summon all these monsters and take them out.

[00:28:54] And so the French ended up working beautifully.

[00:28:57] Only they missed one little kid Bacour was there and he saw everything, and he did not forget.

[00:29:05] So he became the big bad of the franchise. Yes.

[00:29:09] But then you also find out that Pharaoh, previous Pharaoh's brother who did all this, also set those father.

[00:29:18] And that's like the big connection between you and Kyba between the Pharaoh and set oh is their cousins.

[00:29:24] Yeah.

[00:29:27] And that kind of creates this whole thing where I'm set as dad kind of gets corrupted by Bacour and he kind of turns into a monster and it's like mind controlling it it's this whole weird thing.

[00:29:44] The series is weird. It is it.

[00:29:48] I didn't take notes on or anything like I said I didn't finish it so I'm kind of half going based on memory and half going off of freshly watched but no notes so

[00:29:59] I the thing I always remembered about this season was because it's been probably a decade since I've watched it is anytime I rewatched you you know I get through I get up to battle city.

[00:30:12] Well I finished battle city I should say get to waking the dragons and I just kind of stop.

[00:30:17] So I never get beyond that. And like, I only ever watched it all the way through probably like twice.

[00:30:23] And it's been a long time. I do.

[00:30:27] I was just going to say I would recommend just like at least just for this.

[00:30:33] Just start with the beginning of this arc and just watch this ark as its own thing it's it's worth it just on its own.

[00:30:41] So just skip all the bullshit and go right to it.

[00:30:44] Basically, I mean it's really it's like you said it's really like a different show altogether there's only two card games and one of them is only an episode long.

[00:30:54] The one dual I remember the most from this arc is the the final battle like both the final duel between Yu-Gi and a 10.

[00:31:03] Just because that was a great final send off because you really got to see how much Yu-Gi's grown as a character.

[00:31:10] Yeah, for sure.

[00:31:13] Is it a 10 in the in the manga like kind of a douche?

[00:31:17] Oh yeah well I mean when you look at season zero true that's that's how the manga starts so that's that's pretty much how he was.

[00:31:27] Yeah, he wasn't a great character at all.

[00:31:30] I mean I but also I feel like at that point he was kind of more reactive because he would only really come out if some bullshit was going on and people were being dicks.

[00:31:40] True.

[00:31:41] And to be fair, most of the fucked up things he did only happened because the person he was playing the game against broke the rules.

[00:31:51] Yes.

[00:31:52] Like because there's a penalty if you break the rules in a shadow game and a lot of those fucked up things he did was just a side product of that.

[00:32:01] So like yeah he had that darkness about him and he definitely came off that way but it's not like he you know was just fucking people up for the element.

[00:32:14] Yeah.

[00:32:15] I get that.

[00:32:16] I will say the most iconic scene is like when they send all the the puzzle like the all the millennium alakens can't talk when they send all the millennium items away at the end just the puzzle shattering at the end is like, yeah, it's really over.

[00:32:35] Yeah.

[00:32:37] Yeah, it's pretty wild.

[00:32:40] That is a pretty heartbreaking scene though of Yu Gi saying goodbye to a Tim.

[00:32:46] Yeah, it's pretty rough and then it also kind of like ends like really abruptly to like it's weird.

[00:32:52] Thankfully we got Dark Side of Dimensions later which kind of expanded on that.

[00:32:58] I remember a lot of fans gave like Teya Flack for like how she like ran after a pharaoh at the end and it's like it's like girl let him go.

[00:33:06] Yeah right.

[00:33:08] You got your man right here.

[00:33:10] Yeah, the dorkier version over there in the corner.

[00:33:14] He gets ripped though I mean.

[00:33:16] He does in GX.

[00:33:18] Holy fuck.

[00:33:20] You fucking hit the gym.

[00:33:22] Yeah that's how the original series kind of ends though.

[00:33:25] It really you know the funniest part is though like it ends there and then you realize oh yeah they're still in school.

[00:33:31] Oh yeah. Well I mean they say in the series like oh we've been doing this for four years blah blah blah so like I'm wondering when they, because they were 14 at the beginning.

[00:33:42] So would they be in their last year of high school at that point?

[00:33:45] Yeah I believe that's like one of the big, actually yeah that's one of the big block points in Dark Side of Dimensions.

[00:33:51] You want to just talk about Dark Side Dimensions now because it kind of caps off the series.

[00:33:56] Sure it's been a little bit since I watched it so you might have to remind me that some stuff but.

[00:34:01] Alright so Dark Side of Dimensions was kind of a film that came out of nowhere so by this point like the original series had been over for a while now.

[00:34:11] Like we'd already been through GX, 5Ds was already going through I think they were in Z-Axel at this point.

[00:34:17] Yeah I think so.

[00:34:19] At least that bar.

[00:34:21] And this wasn't even the first real comeback of the original series either because they had done that crossover movie with like Jaden Yuki and the guy from 5Ds I believe.

[00:34:32] Which was okay, I don't love that movie as much as I like Dark Side of Dimensions but it was fine.

[00:34:38] I like it for what it is.

[00:34:41] I'm not a huge fan of the 3D monsters like the CGI monsters it just doesn't look right to me.

[00:34:48] Yeah Dark Side of Dimensions thankfully doesn't really do as much of that.

[00:34:54] But yeah going back to Dark Side Dimensions now this was the, this movie kind of was standalone it's an interesting place because it's technically based directly off the manga not so much the original anime.

[00:35:06] But it does kind of take place right after the end of the original anime if that makes sense.

[00:35:11] Yeah.

[00:35:12] And it's essentially the final like story of like that original those original characters.

[00:35:19] And what's really cool is they actually got back pretty much everybody.

[00:35:24] Yeah.

[00:35:25] Like they got Dan Greenback as Yugi, Wayne Grayson as Joey, they also kept their upnames which is kind of fun.

[00:35:34] Yeah.

[00:35:37] Eric Stewart as Kaiba of course.

[00:35:41] Yeah they brought all of them back and they did an excellent job like the animation in this movie is great.

[00:35:48] And it really felt like a proper send off to the Yu-Gi-Oh! as a whole.

[00:35:54] So basically the plot is kind, it's kind of like the big overarching theme is that Kaiba is a massive fucking dork in this movie.

[00:36:03] Yeah we always knew that though.

[00:36:05] He takes it to another level in this one though.

[00:36:09] So like the movie starts essentially where he's looking for the puzzle because he never got to have that final duel with the Temp that he wanted.

[00:36:18] Yeah.

[00:36:19] And he basically really wants to face off against the Pharaoh again.

[00:36:23] So he's literally digging up the Millennium puzzle just to put it back together so he can face off against Temp.

[00:36:30] And of course that triggers another ancient Egyptian plot where you actually learn the backstory of a shoddy of all characters.

[00:36:41] That's right yeah.

[00:36:43] Where he was actually a protector of all these children in front of the Millennium items.

[00:36:50] And it actually you find out how Bacora, not a Yami Bacora like the Bacora we know his father actually went to Egypt and stole the ring.

[00:37:02] And kind of like resulted in Shadi's death.

[00:37:07] But also he kind of resulted in the Millennium items being stolen as well.

[00:37:15] So yeah he takes the ring and of course the ring overpowers him immediately because it's the wrong.

[00:37:21] He's not the right soul for it and then it basically sparks off this plot where one of the kids that was there basically goes on this wild plot of revenge and ends up getting intermingled with Yugi and the gang.

[00:37:34] Sounds familiar.

[00:37:35] There's a whole bunch of battles that go on a whole bunch of shadow stuff.

[00:37:39] The final climax is great because you get the puzzle gets rebuilt.

[00:37:45] But a temp kind of comes back but he really doesn't.

[00:37:51] And Kyva doesn't get to face off against him because of course he doesn't.

[00:37:56] He kind of just waves through a portal and then leaves.

[00:37:59] Yeah he got him in a Yugi have this kind of nod of like appreciation and then he goes back to the shadow world.

[00:38:07] And then the movie ends with the most the most Kyva thing ever.

[00:38:12] He builds a fucking time machine to go back in time just to face off against it.

[00:38:18] Ridiculous.

[00:38:22] It's not the best explanation for the movie but as a movie itself it is a great time.

[00:38:28] Yeah it was fun when I watched it.

[00:38:30] I think I only watched it the one time but and this came out what like five or six years ago.

[00:38:38] I want to say like 2016-ish maybe.

[00:38:42] Oh wow.

[00:38:43] Hold on I thought.

[00:38:45] Let me check.

[00:38:50] Dark side of dimensions came out yeah 2016.

[00:38:54] Oh wow.

[00:38:55] All right.

[00:38:57] Yeah that's pretty old.

[00:38:59] It's been a while.

[00:39:01] It was a great send off though to the original Yugi-o cast and everything.

[00:39:05] Yeah a little bit of a sidetrack here.

[00:39:08] So Yugi-o used to be, used to have the rights held by four kids obviously.

[00:39:15] And these were all like four kids actors and stuff that are playing all the parts.

[00:39:19] Yes.

[00:39:20] So then four kids lost the rights and then everything Yugi-o was made by or was dubbed by what Konami?

[00:39:31] So fun fact Yugi Konami actually bought the remains of four kids.

[00:39:39] Okay.

[00:39:40] Their dubbing studio it was named like for licensing corporation for a while there.

[00:39:45] It's some division in Konami now but they use that studio essentially to dub Yugi-o stuff now.

[00:39:52] Okay so that might have answered my question then because I was leading up to being like all right well if four kids doesn't own Yugi-o anymore but the Yugi-o dub was still able to use all the same actors then what the hell happened with Pokemon?

[00:40:07] Well that was the Pokemon company just took over and bought higher different actors.

[00:40:13] Four kids doesn't exist anymore. They've since closed down so they just, Konami just basically paid the money to get the original actors back.

[00:40:22] Yeah.

[00:40:23] The Pokemon company just flat out hired new actors probably at a cheaper, at a lesser pay rate and just went on from there.

[00:40:32] Probably less cheesy actors too.

[00:40:36] Maybe. They're still pretty cringy in the current Pokemon dubs but.

[00:40:43] I didn't watch much of it so I can't really speak on it but.

[00:40:52] Oh yeah but I didn't mention a couple things like you learn in that last arc that the origin behind the Dark Magician was interesting.

[00:41:04] Because it was the original holder of the Millennium Ring, the one that Bakora uses.

[00:41:13] Basically he had a showdown with Bakora and lost so he like merged his being with his spirit monster and that's how the Dark Magician came into being.

[00:41:30] Which is cool.

[00:41:31] I'm sure it makes more sense in the actual show.

[00:41:34] Yeah.

[00:41:35] But yeah, it was all sorts of stuff and that I definitely recommend it's not even very long. Honestly, it's like a little over 20 episodes.

[00:41:43] So like a standard anime season.

[00:41:46] Yeah.

[00:41:48] But yeah, going on from there though.

[00:41:54] You said you never watched a lot of GX right?

[00:41:57] I caught a couple episodes here and there but it just, I don't know maybe it was just so wildly different that didn't hold my attention.

[00:42:05] Maybe if I watched it now it would be different but.

[00:42:08] GX is a show that is much better binging than it was trying to watch on TV.

[00:42:13] Mm-hmm.

[00:42:14] GX is such an interesting idea like it's essentially like what if we turn Yukio into like a school anime.

[00:42:21] Where it's they're all in this school that's like legitimately just based around Duel monsters basically.

[00:42:30] So what if instead of ditching school to play card games, they go to school to play card games?

[00:42:36] Basically and it's a school set up by Kaiba and it shows because there's three houses.

[00:42:42] So it's kind of like a very potterish in a way too.

[00:42:47] There's the Slyther Red House that's the lowest house.

[00:42:52] I wonder why he chose that one as the lowest.

[00:42:55] Yeah.

[00:42:56] There's raw yellow, the middle house and then obelisk blue is the top house.

[00:43:02] I wonder why that one's the top house.

[00:43:04] Makes sense.

[00:43:06] Yeah, there's like the three different groups and it's kind of like all these different school shenanigans than this typical Yu-Gi-Oh! battles.

[00:43:14] The main character Jaden Yu-Gi is kind of like an outsider that shows up.

[00:43:21] It's fun stuff.

[00:43:22] It's fun stuff like he famously the first episode gets like the winged Karibocard from this strange ripped individual that you only see from like the nose downward that looks very familiar.

[00:43:36] Yep.

[00:43:37] You can still see enough of that hair though.

[00:43:40] Yeah.

[00:43:42] I always remember that because he shows up in the first episode and we don't see him again until like the final episode.

[00:43:48] But they reference him a lot.

[00:43:50] I'm sure.

[00:43:52] It's kind of hard not to mention the champion of the game that you're playing.

[00:43:55] Well, like one of the things for winning like the, for winning like one of the tournaments was like you got a copy of Yu-Gi's deck and it was like that's cool, I guess.

[00:44:08] I don't know how that works though because his deck is constantly changing.

[00:44:12] Yeah.

[00:44:13] At one point Yu-Gi's deck is like actually at the school and some Yu-Gi cosplayer like steals it and pretends to be Yu-Gi for an episode.

[00:44:22] That's ridiculous.

[00:44:23] Yeah, it is.

[00:44:24] It's hilarious.

[00:44:25] And he keeps like chanting about the heart of the cards the whole time.

[00:44:28] And it's like.

[00:44:30] And the playoff is after Jaden beats him, he tells him he's got to find his own personality and look.

[00:44:37] And then they're all like I wonder what he actually looks like and then he shows up and he's cosplaying as Jaden.

[00:44:42] It's about right.

[00:44:43] Which was pretty funny.

[00:44:45] Jesus.

[00:44:46] I will say Jaden Yu-Gi has by far the least bizarre hair out of all the protagonists in the series.

[00:44:53] Yeah, I'd say that's accurate.

[00:44:55] I mean, I don't know if I've watched any of the other shows but I've seen what the protagonists look like.

[00:44:59] They just get more and more ridiculous as it goes on.

[00:45:02] The twins from season one actually show up in a GX episode.

[00:45:09] Oh, the double duel guys?

[00:45:13] Yeah.

[00:45:14] Yeah, they show up for an episode and Jaden has to do a double duel with I think like the rival character for an episode which was kind of cool.

[00:45:25] It's honestly a show that I've heard like the best way to watch it is like from start to finish because there's a lot of stuff that goes on.

[00:45:33] I've heard GX is actually a fan favorite these days.

[00:45:36] Maybe I'll take a shot one of these days.

[00:45:40] Now, I can't tell you anything about 5DZ Axel or whatever the fuck the currency since it's called.

[00:45:47] All I know is that 5DZ is like a post apocalyptic thing and they play the card games while riding their motorcycles.

[00:45:54] So it's Mad Max with Yu-Gi-Oh.

[00:45:56] I guess, I don't know.

[00:46:01] That's cool, I guess.

[00:46:05] I mean, I don't know. I've heard good things about it honestly but...

[00:46:09] Yeah, I think I just kind of lost interest with Yu-Gi-Oh by that point.

[00:46:14] That's fair. I mean, I lost interest by the time GX happened so can't really blame you.

[00:46:20] Fair.

[00:46:23] So we never talked about the games much in the last episode.

[00:46:28] We probably should talk about those to a degree.

[00:46:30] Yeah, we'll touch base on it a little bit.

[00:46:33] How many of them did you play?

[00:46:36] I played a healthy amount.

[00:46:38] So the first one I played was actually Dark Duel Stories on the Game Boy Color.

[00:46:44] I still have my copy yet. That was the first one I had.

[00:46:47] Really nice sprites in that game. It looks great but my god, running theme you'll see with Yu-Gi-Oh games is the fucking story makes no...

[00:46:55] Not the story. The gameplay makes no sense because it doesn't follow the rules.

[00:47:00] Yeah, that's one thing with a lot of the video games is they all kind of make up their own system for it.

[00:47:07] And it's all like still basically the game but they change stuff.

[00:47:11] They change what some kinds do. They change how some cards can be played.

[00:47:19] Yeah, it's just...

[00:47:22] Not consistent.

[00:47:23] It's just different enough to be annoying, basically.

[00:47:28] Yeah, and they don't all do it the same way. It's always different in each one.

[00:47:33] Every game is a free-for-all, honestly.

[00:47:36] Including the next game, which was honestly my favorite one just for nostalgic reasons.

[00:47:41] Forbidden Memories on the PlayStation.

[00:47:44] I didn't play that one.

[00:47:46] Forbidden Memories is interesting because it's basically it's just the card game.

[00:47:53] Like there's no RPG elements or anything.

[00:47:57] It has a pretty in-depth story that takes some really weird turns.

[00:48:01] The thing about Forbidden Memories that makes it so infamous is the fact that it's really hard.

[00:48:06] Like it's challenging for no reason, like a lot of video games.

[00:48:11] You can fuse any fucking cards together.

[00:48:15] Really?

[00:48:16] Yeah, you just pick...

[00:48:19] You click up on the two cards and then fuse them and it just makes some random monster.

[00:48:24] Also the biggest middle finger thing is you can enter in the codes for the cards in the shop.

[00:48:31] Yep.

[00:48:32] But every card is absurdly expensive. You have to buy them.

[00:48:35] You can't just get them by entering the code.

[00:48:39] Yeah, I think all the games had that feature to some degree.

[00:48:44] It's like some of them you'd have to buy them.

[00:48:46] Some of them just the cost would be too high because in some of the games you had a deck of cards.

[00:48:52] You had a deck of value and that would go up the more duels you do.

[00:48:56] But essentially each card had a certain amount of points that it was worth.

[00:49:01] And you couldn't exceed your deck value with the total deck.

[00:49:05] Yes.

[00:49:06] So there was always different ways that they would manage that as...

[00:49:11] Yeah, you can pull in the cards that you own in real life but you won't necessarily be able to use them right away.

[00:49:18] Yes.

[00:49:20] Forbidden Memories was pretty infamous with that.

[00:49:23] The best part of Forbidden Memories to me is the actual battle like cinematics because they actually did like the animated cinematics when you played, which was kind of cool for the time.

[00:49:36] Now this was the precursor to...

[00:49:40] ...Doulas and the Roses, correct?

[00:49:42] Yes, they're kind of sequels to each other in a sense.

[00:49:47] Doulas and the Roses though is even more interesting because it's...

[00:49:55] This is where they got really experimental with the games.

[00:50:00] Because like Doulas and the Roses it's basically the same card game like you know and love.

[00:50:05] Only now like instead of the regular playing field it's like a strategy board.

[00:50:11] Yeah, it's like a tactics grid with like...

[00:50:14] Yeah.

[00:50:15] And they have different landscapes in the playing field.

[00:50:25] So it's like there's a mountain range in one area and there's an ocean in another area.

[00:50:32] And it works very much like in Doulas Kingdom where different monsters will get bonuses or will get points taken away depending on where they are.

[00:50:41] Yes.

[00:50:44] Honestly for me this game the most interesting Yu-Gi-Oh game in my opinion probably but my god is as cheap as fuck sometimes.

[00:50:53] Oh it's super hard sometimes.

[00:50:56] It's almost ungodly.

[00:50:57] I remember like trying to do the same Doulas over and over like...

[00:51:01] No matter how...

[00:51:02] Really struggling.

[00:51:04] No matter how smart you are the AI is always smarter.

[00:51:07] I swear to God.

[00:51:09] And it kind of had the same deal with like the fusing where like you press up to like select which ones you want to try and fuse.

[00:51:16] And like it worked with a lot of them but if it didn't work then whatever one you selected first would just kind of go away.

[00:51:26] Yeah in forbidden memories it would just make whatever.

[00:51:29] Yeah this one they kind of tone that down so it's like yeah it's not completely random anymore.

[00:51:34] Yeah like you can still fuse things and a lot of times they're not things that normally fuse together but it's not nearly as kind of just free fly with it as you'd like it to be sometimes.

[00:51:49] Yeah it is by far the most interesting of the Yu-Gi-Oh games by a long shot but it's still such a frustrating game to play.

[00:51:57] It is.

[00:51:58] It is what I'd like to give another try at some point.

[00:52:01] I just don't have out working PS2 at the moment but it was never re-released to my knowledge so...

[00:52:08] No none of you.

[00:52:09] ...blocked on that console.

[00:52:11] None of the Yu-Gi-Oh games were unfortunately.

[00:52:14] Which is a shame honestly because some of them were really fun.

[00:52:17] Oh yeah to me the most my favorite this game is bad like it's not a good game at all but it is the third game in this quote unquote trilogy of the game.

[00:52:27] Games following ribbon memories and duels to the rose.

[00:52:31] Do you remember the false bound kingdom?

[00:52:34] No I never played that one.

[00:52:36] So that one completely just gets rid of the card game and it's just a strategy game for no reason.

[00:52:43] Really?

[00:52:44] Yeah like on Gamecube like so.

[00:52:47] Oh jeez.

[00:52:48] Fun fact if you want to play this trilogy you need to own a PS1, a PS2 and a Gamecube.

[00:52:53] Jesus.

[00:52:55] Yeah the game...

[00:52:57] The game it's like Yu-Gi-Oh but like fuck the cards it's it's a strategy game now.

[00:53:03] It's so weird.

[00:53:05] Yeah that's bizarre.

[00:53:08] There was also the dawn of destiny on Xbox but that one was more of just a traditional card game.

[00:53:19] I think that was actually the most accurate of the console games at the time.

[00:53:24] Yeah I think duels of the roses is the only console game I played.

[00:53:29] Most of the Yu-Gi-Oh games I played for hand out.

[00:53:32] Yeah and that's where it actually gets kind of interesting because we had mentioned previously like we've talked about sacred cards and the rest of destruction.

[00:53:41] And how like they are like the only ones that are kind of like RPGs where you actually walk around the map and like you basically play as a self insert that basically becomes the main character of the battle city arc.

[00:53:52] Yeah.

[00:53:55] Basically sacred cards is essentially a retelling of battle city from start to finish only you play as yourself and it's kind of easy.

[00:54:05] That's kind of its biggest criticism.

[00:54:08] Well it becomes that way I think in the early like while you're still collecting locator cards I'd say is the more difficult part of the game.

[00:54:19] And then once you get further on once you get to the point where you have enough deck points or whatever your deck limit is high enough and you can just kind of make whatever deck you want that's that's the point where it gets like super easy.

[00:54:32] Yeah.

[00:54:34] Reshep on the destruction on the other hand is a direct sequel to sacred cards that ignores waking the dragons and instead makes its own storyline involving Pegasus going rogue.

[00:54:45] Which is honestly more interesting in hindsight.

[00:54:49] But the game is fucking bullshit in every other way.

[00:54:54] Yeah because unlike just about any other you game your life points don't reset after finishing a duel.

[00:55:04] Yes.

[00:55:05] So it's literally like a health bar and if you don't like go back and rest or whatever then it's just going to stay where it is.

[00:55:13] Also any rule that makes sense in you go throw those away because nothing makes sense in this game.

[00:55:19] I didn't get far enough into the game to honestly know.

[00:55:23] I looked up I looked up a walkthrough because fuck playing that game as soon as I see as soon as I realized that my help my life points were going back up to 8000 I was like fuck this game and I put it down.

[00:55:34] There's a ROM hack that properly balances the game online.

[00:55:38] That's that's probably the way to play it going on nowadays.

[00:55:42] Yeah aside from those two though there was also all of the other GBA games like there was eternal duelist soul.

[00:55:50] That one I played that one's that one I think is the most accurate handheld like this is just the game.

[00:55:58] I'd say that that one or worldwide edition which is the one I had as a kid because worldwide edition was essentially you just played in battle city and you just doled whoever you ran into.

[00:56:11] But it was it was literally just the game like on cards and it was very accurate to the game circa like 2005 ish for sure.

[00:56:20] Yeah.

[00:56:25] There was also all the different like tournament episode like tournament cartridges like there's like tournament 2003 tournament 2004.

[00:56:34] Yeah I never touched any of those I never really understood what the whole deal with those were.

[00:56:39] I'm pretty sure they were just worldwide edition but with like different content.

[00:56:44] We're just like here's all the new cards that came out in the past two years.

[00:56:49] Yeah I think it was like that.

[00:56:51] There was a lot of those though they were basically the most accurate ways to play the game.

[00:56:56] The last game I really remember picking up was on the DS which has my favorite name ever in the Uguyo nightmare troubadour.

[00:57:06] Jesus.

[00:57:07] Like why is that name so awesome.

[00:57:11] Do you know why it was called that.

[00:57:16] No I just think it's cool.

[00:57:22] Excuse me.

[00:57:25] This coffee's killing me man.

[00:57:27] I haven't had a persistent cough like this in forever and I don't even I'm not even smoking cigarettes and I smoke cigarettes in four months.

[00:57:35] That's usually what made them last so long.

[00:57:38] So I don't know what the hell is going on with me.

[00:57:42] Probably allergies.

[00:57:44] Yeah it could be.

[00:57:48] But yeah I think did you play dual links at all.

[00:57:53] Played a bit of it and never really got super deep into it though.

[00:57:57] I played for a long time.

[00:58:00] I still play every now and then because I still have my original account from when the game was less than a year old.

[00:58:06] Wow.

[00:58:08] Yeah I have a lot on that game so I actually made an economy account so that I wouldn't lose my file.

[00:58:15] Yeah I played a lot of that game.

[00:58:19] I've never like super good at all because I don't really keep up with it long term.

[00:58:24] But yeah I have a lot.

[00:58:27] I've made a lot of decks a lot of characters.

[00:58:32] Yeah it was a cool game to me.

[00:58:34] I just I couldn't keep up with it every day so I kind of fell out of it.

[00:58:39] Yeah well there was a point where I was playing it a lot because a lot of the friends that I was hanging out with at the time also had it downloaded so we would like do a little guess each other and stuff and it was a lot more.

[00:58:51] Accessible back then when it first came out.

[00:58:54] Now because they've added pretty much every sequel series so now it has all that pendulum like summoning link summoning all that crazy shit.

[00:59:10] Stuff that's just too complicated for me.

[00:59:13] Yeah.

[00:59:15] So that kind of complicates things a bit.

[00:59:18] Which is a big part of the reason why I don't play as much anymore.

[00:59:22] But every now and then I jump back into it and I'll see what's going on like right now I think it's like the seven year anniversary or something so I've been jumping in just to get like the daily rewards and stuff all that like exchange tickets and random shit like that.

[00:59:41] Yeah I'm trying to think of other games.

[00:59:42] I think that's kind of where I stopped with them.

[00:59:45] Well there was a master duel on this which which is a free game.

[00:59:51] It's pretty much the same thing as dual length only it's not like the speed dual version where it's like it's literally like the full full deck size full play field size it's just literally the game.

[01:00:07] Yeah I didn't play a lot of that one.

[01:00:08] Yeah I barely touched that one honestly.

[01:00:11] At that point I had put so much time into dual length so I was so used to play and put like the reduced deck size and everything and it just made more sense to me.

[01:00:24] Yeah honestly like Yu-Gi-Oh is really one of those like fads that kind of like it was huge for a while and then it just kind of fell off and kind of became just another thing in the giant sea of the world.

[01:00:38] Popular content.

[01:00:40] Yeah it's still technically around people still play it people still I mean I still will watch a little bit here and there my little brother watches that still and he is 21 so and he watches the original too which you know good.

[01:00:59] I mean yeah I'll pop the original in every now and then just to get a laugh every now and like or that or I'll watch like The Bridge series or something.

[01:01:08] Before we jump into like The Bridge series stuff I'm curious do you have any like like your best polls like getting cardbacks and stuff like do you have any specific memories of like a really good poll.

[01:01:24] I got a couple of red eyes over the years.

[01:01:34] That was a big because I remember like there was a point where like everyone had like was like hunting for like a blue eyes and I ended up getting red eyes in a pack and not from the Joey deck which was kind of cool.

[01:01:44] Yeah it's always cool getting one of those cards from a pack.

[01:01:47] I think other than that I got um I got I don't have it anymore sadly but I got the red dark magician in one of those packs at one point.

[01:01:59] Oh nice.

[01:02:01] That was kind of cool.

[01:02:03] Yeah I didn't have the best luck with a lot of those packs but I did get some of the good ones like I think I pulled it Jim so once.

[01:02:08] Oh I remember my biggest pull was I got the five had a dragon in a pack.

[01:02:14] Nice there you go.

[01:02:16] That's such a random like oh but I never got anything better than that.

[01:02:20] I don't think I ever got any of like the main cards like the red eyes dark magician blue eyes but I did get it some of the skull in a pack once.

[01:02:30] That's cool.

[01:02:32] And there was one time I had just enough money to get like two or three packs and this is right after the invasion of chaos pack came out.

[01:02:39] And I got those two or three packs and in those packs I got I think.

[01:02:48] Two dark magician of chaos is and a black luster soldier on boy of the end or whatever it was one that's in the new versions of both of those cards came out the ones that weren't ritual cards.

[01:03:00] And I got two of one and one of the other in those three packs.

[01:03:05] Nice.

[01:03:08] I think that personally magician of black chaos is my favorite card.

[01:03:13] Mine is.

[01:03:17] That's a good question.

[01:03:21] I think it's still.

[01:03:24] I think it's still red eyes.

[01:03:26] I think red eyes is still my favorite card.

[01:03:28] Red eyes is definitely up there.

[01:03:30] I mean I was going to ask you what's your favorite like line of cards like for me it's still like the red eyes line because it's just so versatile.

[01:03:36] Yeah.

[01:03:38] And there's so many different versions of it now like this like the red eyes zombie dragon the red eyes darkish dragon even like just fusion wise like you got a you got obviously black skull dragon.

[01:03:50] The black meteor black dragon where that one's cool.

[01:03:54] Yeah for that for that reason alone I generally tend to run red eyes a lot because my my preferred play style is fusion decks.

[01:04:03] And there's just so like you said there's just so much personality with red eyes.

[01:04:08] There's a red eyes to and dragon now.

[01:04:11] There's a red eyes black chick.

[01:04:13] Red eyes black chick black metal dragon.

[01:04:17] Yeah.

[01:04:19] Yeah this is a bunch of different variations now this like I'm surprised they didn't do an ultimate metal ultimate red eyes or whatever.

[01:04:30] Well like a three headed type of deal.

[01:04:33] Yeah just some sort of fusion like that just to play off the blue eyes.

[01:04:38] Well I think the I think that the red eyes darkness dragon was supposed to be kind of like the answer to that true because I think that one works in a similar way to like Buster Blader where he has more attack points depending on how many dragons have been used.

[01:04:56] Yeah something like that I'd have to go find my card.

[01:04:59] So I think I think he gains like 300 for every for every dragon that's been played up to that point.

[01:05:10] It's funny and hindsight thinking about it like if you want to play red eyes black metal dragon you'd have to have a metal morph card in your deck and you literally just have the metal morph there just to play black metal dragon so you might as well keep a zoa in your deck as well.

[01:05:27] Yeah.

[01:05:29] Yeah it's kind of like a lot of the ways that I ended up playing too because like if I ended up running like a red eyes deck I would always end up just throwing a Buster Blader in there too because there'd be so many dragons.

[01:05:40] Yeah.

[01:05:41] And then like there's a fusion with Buster Blader where if you fuse it with a dragon card he I think has 2800 attack and he gains 1000 points for every dragon which is ridiculous but he can't attack directly but he does piercing damage so he just like absolutely wrecks.

[01:06:02] I have to say too I love my Magnet Warriors.

[01:06:05] There's more of them now I found out so I have to track those down now.

[01:06:08] Yeah Delta Delta's the shit that's when you want.

[01:06:12] Yeah.

[01:06:14] I still loved it I still remember getting my Magnet Warriors out of them.

[01:06:19] They came with duals of the rose.

[01:06:22] Yep.

[01:06:24] Valkyrian came from another set.

[01:06:27] I can't remember which one.

[01:06:30] Sure.

[01:06:32] What cards did sacred cards come with?

[01:06:35] I know that one came with cards too.

[01:06:36] I can't remember off the top of my head.

[01:06:40] I know forbidden memories came with Black Metal Dragon, Metal Morph and I think the Claw upgrade card.

[01:06:49] Oh no I think it was the Crush card actually.

[01:06:52] I don't know if I ever got my hands on one of those.

[01:06:56] The Crush card was not nearly as effective in game as it was in the anime.

[01:07:01] Yeah well it was used in a dualist kingdom so you kind of have to take its effect on that with a greatest all.

[01:07:08] Yeah because in dualist kingdom it was like the biggest middle finger like your game is over card.

[01:07:14] Yeah.

[01:07:16] It was not nearly as useful in the actual game.

[01:07:21] It's like Toon World.

[01:07:23] It totally doesn't work like that.

[01:07:24] Yeah.

[01:07:26] Well the relinquished, ironically relinquished the more broken card does work like that.

[01:07:32] Yeah relinquished was a weird card.

[01:07:37] Did they ever ban that or is it still usable?

[01:07:40] I don't think so.

[01:07:42] Because then there was also the if you fused it with the Thousand Eyed Idol you got Thousand Eyed Restrict which was also kind of broken.

[01:07:50] Yeah it's the same thing only also like paralyzes your bonus monsters.

[01:07:56] Does everything relinquished as and more.

[01:07:59] There's a reason why Pegasus was the only person that had one of those.

[01:08:02] Hmm.

[01:08:04] I guess since Deck was literally filled with broken F**K you cards I just realized that.

[01:08:08] I think it's kind of funny that Pegasus had one eye and it's like main monster was a monster with a Thousand Eyed.

[01:08:13] Yeah well all of his monsters had like that had the millennium eye in their design.

[01:08:20] Hmm.

[01:08:22] Because there was also that weird one that like also looked like relinquished but didn't really do anything.

[01:08:28] Yeah.

[01:08:30] I don't know it's a bizarre franchise for sure.

[01:08:35] But going into a bridge a little bit when did you first discover it?

[01:08:41] I'd seen it on YouTube every now and then because like back in the early days of YouTube when that stuff was everywhere you just they'd pop up in your feed.

[01:08:50] And you'd think it was Yu-Gi-Oh at first and then you'd be like oh this is weird.

[01:08:55] Yeah I don't even remember exactly how I discovered it.

[01:08:59] I think I was just up late at night one day and I was just going through YouTube on my iPad of all things.

[01:09:06] And I just came up at one point and I was like what is this?

[01:09:11] And I don't even I think he was in the middle of I think he's in the middle of the virtual world arc the bigger one.

[01:09:25] And I ended up watching through like all of it and I and shortly afterwards I was like oh there's a bridge thing is cool.

[01:09:33] And I started looking around and I was finding all these other bridge series and they weren't necessarily great.

[01:09:40] No because the Yu-Gi-Oh bridge wasn't done by like Team 4 Star right?

[01:09:45] It was some other guys.

[01:09:47] It was a guy, Little Crevo.

[01:09:49] Yu-Gi-Oh is the original Bridge series.

[01:09:53] Every other Bridge series stems off of it.

[01:09:56] Right that's what it is.

[01:09:58] I forgot about Little Crevo for a while.

[01:09:59] Which I mean when you think about it like indirectly Yu-Gi-Oh kind of caused this big resurgence of interest in a lot of these older enemies because of, you know, he made the Yu-Gi-Oh Bridge series which is great.

[01:10:17] But that also inspired a bunch of other people to go out and make their own a Bridge series which ended up with, you know, Yu-Hakusho Bridge,

[01:10:24] Dragon Ball Z averaged most, you know, the most known one.

[01:10:31] There's a bunch of other ones like I want to say all of them, all the members like the founding members of Team 4 Star all had their own a Bridge series before they all came together and made the Dragon Ball one.

[01:10:43] I mean my favorite, this isn't a Bridge series but my favorite gag dub thing ever was Hank Hill and Yu-Hakusho.

[01:10:50] Yep. I love that one.

[01:10:51] They went really far with that like a lot farther than I thought.

[01:10:56] Did you ever see the way off topic?

[01:10:59] Did you ever see the video of somebody switched out Sel's voice with Plankton from SpongeBob?

[01:11:05] Yeah, it works too well.

[01:11:07] It works too well.

[01:11:09] That's like, this is completely off topic now.

[01:11:12] That's like someone took the opening scene from Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and they replaced the audio with the opening scene from Full Metal Jacket.

[01:11:22] And it works way too well.

[01:11:25] That's funny as hell.

[01:11:27] But yeah, Yu-Hakusho Bridge has been going for a long time at this point.

[01:11:34] Actually I think I saw something recently that he might be putting on a new episode soon.

[01:11:39] So that's exciting because he is currently on that last little tournament before the final arc in A. New T. Jax.

[01:11:47] Oh well.

[01:11:49] So he's already finished Waking the Dragons.

[01:11:51] I will say that the Bridge series, one of the best things the Bridge series did was make the Waking the Dragon interesting.

[01:12:00] Yeah.

[01:12:02] I just remember a lot of Tristan voice jokes early on and then making fun of Mai's boobs.

[01:12:09] Very goofy.

[01:12:11] Yeah, he didn't...

[01:12:14] He kind of went for the cheap shots back in the day.

[01:12:17] Early YouTube was nothing but crap like that to be honest.

[01:12:24] But he definitely honed his comedy style as time went on and it works for sure.

[01:12:31] Especially all the Battle City stuff, like the later Battle City stuff is great.

[01:12:35] But yeah, I definitely anybody who hasn't watched it, I definitely recommend checking it out.

[01:12:45] Some of those early episodes can be a little rough.

[01:12:49] So it might not be a bad idea to start with Battle City.

[01:12:53] Yeah.

[01:12:55] Yeah, the early episodes are...

[01:12:57] They're great but my god, you can tell that was definitely the beginnings of something.

[01:13:02] Yeah.

[01:13:04] Not only was the beginning of this a Bridge series, but it was the beginning of a Bridge series period.

[01:13:09] Yeah.

[01:13:11] If you think early Dragon Ball Z a Bridge just rough, you should see early UQ a Bridge.

[01:13:15] Yeah.

[01:13:17] Yeah, would they clearly...

[01:13:19] It wasn't taken seriously at all and it was clearly just a joke that he thought was funny and then it ended up becoming something massive.

[01:13:25] Yeah, for sure.

[01:13:28] But yeah, a lot of that stuff like...

[01:13:30] It's been a while since I watched it. Maybe that's what I'll do over the weekend. I'll just watch some of Bridge. It's been a while.

[01:13:38] I think the last time you watched it was when I was over there one time and we were watching it.

[01:13:42] It might have been.

[01:13:44] I think it was still in the trailer at the time because it was right before I left.

[01:13:48] Mm-hmm.

[01:13:51] Yeah, just on the subject of a Bridge series though.

[01:13:55] If you never seem to sort out online at Bridge, absolutely.

[01:14:01] I think we watched it at your place that one time as well.

[01:14:05] It's fucking hilarious.

[01:14:07] And it's one of those ones that is... It's great from episode one.

[01:14:12] And that's something you don't see in a Bridge series very often, if ever.

[01:14:16] Another Bridge series that's surprisingly great is Hamtaro Bridge.

[01:14:20] I didn't even know that was a thing.

[01:14:21] Alex showed it to me once. It is... Anytime one of the characters falls down, it just cuts this deep voice going,

[01:14:27] Gid.

[01:14:29] Just like in the background. It is great.

[01:14:32] I used to watch Hamtaro do when I was a kid.

[01:14:35] I swear everybody did because everybody remembers it.

[01:14:38] I had a Hamtaro plush that I got for one of my birthdays.

[01:14:42] I don't know what else.

[01:14:44] I think I had a video game too.

[01:14:46] Was it Hamhams Unite?

[01:14:48] It might have been.

[01:14:49] I honestly have no idea.

[01:14:52] I swear everybody had that game as well because I've heard so many people say,

[01:14:56] Oh yeah, Hamtaro Hamhams Unite. I love that game.

[01:14:58] And I'm always like, I need to find this game now.

[01:15:00] Because apparently it's worth playing.

[01:15:03] Wow.

[01:15:05] I don't remember. I just remember them running from cats and shit.

[01:15:09] I don't remember much.

[01:15:11] I remember that series being...

[01:15:14] That series being fairly decent for a kids show back in the day.

[01:15:19] It wasn't just pretty much like anime wonder pets.

[01:15:22] Kind of. I know Alex watched it a lot.

[01:15:27] It was also one of those anime that you could get away with watching

[01:15:33] without being considered watching anime.

[01:15:35] Yeah, because it didn't really feel like anime.

[01:15:38] It just felt like one of those cartoon kids shows

[01:15:41] that has animals for characters.

[01:15:44] It was kind of like Pokemon, how it didn't really feel like an anime.

[01:15:47] Or even Yu-Gi-Oh to a degree.

[01:15:49] Yeah.

[01:15:51] We didn't talk about how everyone used to call Yu-Gi-Oh a Pokemon rip-off.

[01:15:54] Even though they came out like the same year.

[01:15:56] And they're not similar in the slightest?

[01:15:58] No.

[01:16:00] And you know what's funny is like, I mean, I guess you can make an argument

[01:16:03] because the Yu-Gi-Oh manga came out the same year as the first Pokemon game.

[01:16:07] And like Yu-Gi-Oh didn't really develop the card game until later.

[01:16:11] But it's still not even close.

[01:16:14] No, they're not even... The card games themselves aren't even close.

[01:16:17] No.

[01:16:19] Yu-Gi-Oh was like more of a rip-off of Magic the Gathering.

[01:16:22] And even then that's like a stretch B2 because they're not similar either.

[01:16:27] Honestly, the Pokemon card game is more similar to Magic the Gathering.

[01:16:30] Well, Wizard of the Coast actually I think published it for a while.

[01:16:34] Oh really?

[01:16:36] From the sense then.

[01:16:38] Yeah, Yu-Gi-Oh...

[01:16:40] I think the reason why Yu-Gi-Oh became the phenomenon was because it

[01:16:43] felt so different at the time.

[01:16:45] Like Pokemon and Digimon I get the parallels even though those aren't very similar either.

[01:16:52] Right.

[01:16:54] Yeah, I never got the Yu-Gi-Oh Pokemon thing.

[01:16:58] No, me neither.

[01:17:00] I guess it's because they were just popular anime, video game, card game things.

[01:17:05] Yeah, they were both popularized in the West around the same time.

[01:17:08] But in both cases with the anime specifically.

[01:17:11] The anime, I mean Pokemon always had the games like as the games have always been king with Pokemon.

[01:17:19] Because I still to this day, I knew people that played Yu-Gi-Oh card game.

[01:17:24] I knew nobody that played the Pokemon card game.

[01:17:26] Yeah.

[01:17:29] Yeah, there's pretty few of them are between.

[01:17:32] I remember trying to teach myself how to play at once and it just didn't work out.

[01:17:35] Gameboy color game that's the only way.

[01:17:38] Yep, that's how I ultimately ended up doing it.

[01:17:41] Coin flips if you know you know.

[01:17:45] Yeah.

[01:17:49] Yeah, other than that though any other really Yu-Gi-Oh thoughts?

[01:17:56] Not in particular I think we pretty much covered it all.

[01:18:01] It's definitely interesting to look back on now.

[01:18:04] Yeah, I definitely I kind of get those last few mongas because I want to read through the series.

[01:18:12] Because it's definitely way way very much in the same way as Pokemon with that manga.

[01:18:20] The manga is so much more entertaining.

[01:18:23] So much more like adult.

[01:18:26] That's what I've heard.

[01:18:27] So maybe at some point in the future we'll work on that.

[01:18:32] Yeah, that's definitely a project at some point.

[01:18:35] I got to finish reading Pokemon first.

[01:18:38] Hopefully I'll have a week that doesn't go badly.

[01:18:41] Yeah.

[01:18:43] Okay.

[01:18:45] Yeah, so we made pretty good time with this one.

[01:18:48] Yeah, I think if you take the first one and this one it comes pretty close to our pilot.

[01:18:53] Yeah, just if we didn't have time with it last week then we probably could have.

[01:18:57] Dotted in one episode, yeah.

[01:19:01] Oh well, you live and learn.

[01:19:03] Thankfully I don't have to work tonight's art tomorrow so.

[01:19:06] Yeah.

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