Episode 180: Call of Duty Black Ops 6 - Covert Racism

Episode 180: Call of Duty Black Ops 6 - Covert Racism

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[00:00:00] I was playing the beginning of this game and it was about the time that the third female character came out and I was like, oh no. Oh no.

[00:00:13] The characters are coming.

[00:00:14] I did! I was watching him play the game and he was like, oh I'm a woman now and I was like, woke. Woke video game!

[00:00:24] But then I saw the dude in the wheelchair and I was like, no! The youngest game I've ever seen!

[00:00:35] It looks like that. It's a bad look. It looks like that.

[00:00:41] The first two things, it was like the first two thoughts I had about it was woman character, guy in wheelchair.

[00:00:52] They got a racially ambiguous woman, part of the main cast? What are we doing here, Treyarch?

[00:00:57] Is she white? Is she brown? We don't know.

[00:01:00] Who's to say? Who's to say?

[00:01:03] Now hold on, hold on. Let's do it.

[00:01:11] That was weird. That's how everyone said yes at the same time.

[00:01:14] Hello and welcome to Gaming Together, a cooperative podcast.

[00:01:16] I'm your host Phillip and I'm here with my co-op partner, Nave.

[00:01:18] Each pod we play through a cooperative experience to relay to you, the listener,

[00:01:21] if this game is the creme de la creme of co-op or something better off playing solo.

[00:01:25] Hey Nave, what's poppin'?

[00:01:26] I think I picked up by the mic pretty good.

[00:01:28] Yeah.

[00:01:28] I want to signal to the listener that it's time to get laid back, you know?

[00:01:32] We're casual gaming. We're casual gamers again.

[00:01:34] It's time to kick it.

[00:01:35] Just relax and chillin'.

[00:01:37] We are once again returning with Rachel as our third co-op partner.

[00:01:43] Hello.

[00:01:45] And another returning co-op partner, Nick and Knight from Friday Night Gamecast.

[00:01:50] Welcome Nick.

[00:01:51] Boys, it's been too long.

[00:01:52] I'm happy to be back here for another great entry in the Gaming Together catalog.

[00:01:56] It looks like he's at night over there.

[00:01:59] The walls are so dark.

[00:02:00] That wasn't what it was like when I saw you last, right?

[00:02:03] No way.

[00:02:03] I painted this a while back.

[00:02:06] We surely have done an episode since then.

[00:02:08] I think it's just like it looks darker because there's no ambient light coming in the room.

[00:02:13] Oh yeah, you're right.

[00:02:14] It's like you're under the fluorescent light bulb like I am.

[00:02:16] I just, yeah.

[00:02:17] We have the overhead light.

[00:02:19] I wish I had better ambient lights.

[00:02:21] It's not the most aesthetic, but at least it gives me this hair crown, whatever.

[00:02:26] Yeah, well, Rachel's normally sitting there in the fucking dark being Batman.

[00:02:31] You know, I open the closet door and turn the closet light on.

[00:02:35] Is that what that is?

[00:02:36] That's what's happening here.

[00:02:38] I don't want the overhead light on.

[00:02:40] It's too bright.

[00:02:41] It hurts my eyes.

[00:02:42] It's a danger light.

[00:02:44] It's a scary light.

[00:02:45] And so I'm not using my regular webcam.

[00:02:49] So maybe it won't fall down over and over again because it's just my laptop webcam this time.

[00:02:54] Which is why it looks far worse.

[00:02:56] Because my other webcam looks way better.

[00:02:59] But since the video didn't matter, and then now all of a sudden you're like, oh, we're going to post the video.

[00:03:04] The moment that I'm like, yeah, I'm just going to use my laptop webcam.

[00:03:09] It's a possibility.

[00:03:10] Listener, we talked about it last week.

[00:03:12] We might try to do the thing if this video doesn't fuck up.

[00:03:15] But, you know, that's a crap shoot.

[00:03:18] Um, Nick, what are you guys doing over Friday Night Gamecast lately?

[00:03:23] Man, we've been doing the same old, same old.

[00:03:25] We have just had continued on with the releases.

[00:03:27] We're, you know, on a biweekly schedule now.

[00:03:30] We made that update, you know, at the beginning of the season, you know, when we started.

[00:03:34] And so we've just been kicking it off and doing just a heavy, heavy on the review side for games that either Will or myself have been playing.

[00:03:41] And then, of course, you know, we have our random topics like the most recent episode that we have up was our Spooktober 2024 episode, which I was really proud of.

[00:03:50] And I was really happy with the way that it turned out, like, honest to God, like incredible conversations between the two of us talking about Resident Evil 8 and Little Nightmares 1 and 2 and Silent Hill 2 with potentially more for that last game to come.

[00:04:04] So, yeah, I'm I'm really excited.

[00:04:07] But, yeah, that's what we've been up to over there.

[00:04:08] Not not too much else going on, though.

[00:04:10] Did you guys see that shit I posted where the Silent Hill 2 sampled the piglets big game or whatever?

[00:04:17] Yes.

[00:04:18] What's piglet doing?

[00:04:20] What's going on over there?

[00:04:21] Dude, I watched it.

[00:04:22] I watched the video where that came from.

[00:04:24] And it is horrifying.

[00:04:25] It's like it's just random.

[00:04:27] You know, in Super Mario 64, how there's that random scary level that's like, you know, it's up.

[00:04:32] It's the exact same.

[00:04:33] He's just creeping around in a mansion.

[00:04:36] I don't know.

[00:04:37] I have no context.

[00:04:40] Yeah, it's the it's the best.

[00:04:41] I just I just want to know if if piglet is ever going to have like a follow up sequel where he debriefs the audience on the union, like internal adventure into his superego that he had to go through.

[00:04:53] I think that's important.

[00:04:55] He's like hooked up to the chair from the evil within.

[00:05:00] We got to know why he's so nervous all the time.

[00:05:02] Like what happened to him?

[00:05:04] Exactly.

[00:05:05] I mean, yeah, I mean, that would be a good.

[00:05:07] I mean, he's the public domain now.

[00:05:08] Right.

[00:05:09] So I mean, we can do it.

[00:05:10] Maybe we can do it.

[00:05:13] All right.

[00:05:13] We are going to be talking about Call of Duty Black Ops six before we get there.

[00:05:17] Let's just check in what games we've been playing.

[00:05:19] Anyone want to take this first go around?

[00:05:21] Rachel, I can't stop playing vampire survivors.

[00:05:27] Boo.

[00:05:28] I can't stop.

[00:05:29] You got to be careful with that game.

[00:05:30] You have to be careful with that game.

[00:05:31] Rachel, I was up when it came out or when kind of when they first pushed me into that game.

[00:05:36] I was up till like three or four o'clock in the morning.

[00:05:39] Just playing it.

[00:05:40] Just trying to get my achievements.

[00:05:42] The first two nights I played it.

[00:05:44] I literally four o'clock in the morning.

[00:05:46] I just like I would go lay down with him and then I couldn't fall asleep.

[00:05:49] And so I'd get back up.

[00:05:50] I'll just play a little vampire survivor.

[00:05:52] It's fine.

[00:05:53] And then I'd start playing.

[00:05:54] And then I look at the clock and it's four.

[00:05:57] And it's I can't I can't stop.

[00:06:00] It's what I've been doing.

[00:06:02] It does like six hours.

[00:06:04] It does something.

[00:06:05] The music, the sound effects.

[00:06:07] It just did the lighting.

[00:06:08] It just does something to your brain.

[00:06:09] You just can't stop.

[00:06:10] Plus, you know, you're going to get those golden eggs at the end of each run, too.

[00:06:14] So you're like, I got to at least get the egg.

[00:06:17] So I've been playing metaphor re Fantasio and I'm playing in Japanese.

[00:06:21] So I have to read the words because I don't understand what's being vocally said to me.

[00:06:25] And at the end of every run and vampire survivors, you get like three or four achievements and she signed in on the Xbox.

[00:06:30] So I would just keep it would just be like a like a five minute break where I had to go take a piss or something because achievements keep popping up.

[00:06:37] I'm reading the words.

[00:06:38] I'm like, OK, that's terrible.

[00:06:41] It's really good.

[00:06:42] I'm enjoying it a lot.

[00:06:44] I also started a Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney randomly because that seemed hell.

[00:06:49] Yeah, something different.

[00:06:51] Is that still on game pass?

[00:06:53] I thought somebody told me that it fell off.

[00:06:55] I think it is.

[00:06:56] Unless okay.

[00:06:57] Unless if you own it.

[00:06:58] I probably bought it.

[00:07:00] I don't know.

[00:07:00] Trilogy at one point, but then I don't remember whether or not it fell off.

[00:07:03] I got like halfway through the first game and just got distracted.

[00:07:07] It's awesome, though.

[00:07:08] Yeah, I think I'm like two chapters or whatever they're called on those games and on the first one.

[00:07:14] So episodes.

[00:07:15] Episodes.

[00:07:16] Yeah, it's episodes.

[00:07:16] Have you have you made a verdict yet?

[00:07:19] Yeah.

[00:07:21] Yeah.

[00:07:22] Objection.

[00:07:23] OK, so yeah, you're on like this.

[00:07:25] I think I completed the second episode.

[00:07:27] So I think I am starting the third, which is like the ninja or something one.

[00:07:34] Are you in love with Edgeworth yet?

[00:07:37] Yes.

[00:07:38] OK, good.

[00:07:39] It's either him or Gumshoe, you know?

[00:07:41] Everyone loves one of those two.

[00:07:43] Gumshoe's kind of dumb.

[00:07:44] Yeah, he grows on you, especially later.

[00:07:47] I'm sure he does.

[00:07:47] Like he keeps growing.

[00:07:48] When he stops like accusing you every other episode of being the villain, the murderer.

[00:07:54] Clearly the villain.

[00:07:55] No, no, no, no investigative deduction whatsoever.

[00:07:57] He's just like, you definitely did it.

[00:07:59] You look shitty-eyed to me.

[00:08:00] He's like, you're that murderer guy, Harry whatever.

[00:08:03] Yeah.

[00:08:04] Harry nut.

[00:08:05] I don't remember his name.

[00:08:06] I think that's it.

[00:08:09] It was a translation thing.

[00:08:11] Those are like the main things.

[00:08:13] I've been playing some Bellatro, but mostly vampire survivors.

[00:08:18] Nice.

[00:08:19] It's a good spread.

[00:08:20] Great.

[00:08:22] Well, I mean, I already brought up metaphor, so I'll just cap that off.

[00:08:25] There's not much to report.

[00:08:26] I've just beat the...

[00:08:28] I got through the third area with the ship and now I'm sailing across the ocean Wind Waker style.

[00:08:36] It's fucking sick.

[00:08:37] The game is getting only more and more emotional as the journey continues and as we acquire more and more mentally damaged people to our party that need to work through their traumas.

[00:08:49] If you helped your classmate deal with the sexuality yet?

[00:08:52] I have.

[00:08:53] No, not yet.

[00:08:54] No sexuality yet, but everyone's dealing with their race issues.

[00:08:58] Oh yeah.

[00:08:58] I forgot about the race game.

[00:09:00] Yeah.

[00:09:00] We got our hands tied and full now that we've acquired a new race and there is two people tagging along as like side partners that are another race that...

[00:09:11] And now there's like race turmoil inside of our tiny ship and they're fighting bosses and they're learning to put their differences aside.

[00:09:19] It's fucking awesome.

[00:09:20] I love this game.

[00:09:21] Nate, I gotta ask you.

[00:09:22] Are you grinding at all in this game?

[00:09:25] Not...

[00:09:25] No, I'm not grinding unnecessarily.

[00:09:27] So...

[00:09:28] And you don't find that...

[00:09:29] You don't find it like...

[00:09:30] Like the difficulty spikes really crazy?

[00:09:33] Well, this game is very difficult.

[00:09:35] Um, I bet if I grind it I could do...

[00:09:37] So it does the thing in like Persona 5 where you can check and see what people who are in this point in the game, like what level they are and what they're like...

[00:09:44] What classes they're using.

[00:09:46] They're called archetypes in this game.

[00:09:47] And it's like, um, I'm pretty much in the middle at any given time and I'm doing all the side quests and I'm...

[00:09:54] I'm...

[00:09:54] I prioritize side quests then I do like can't like a...

[00:09:58] Uh, partner stuff, you know, like the side missions and then I just fuck off.

[00:10:05] I mean, there's...

[00:10:06] I'm doing everything I can at any given point so far so I'm not like running out of any time or anything so...

[00:10:12] Uh, it seems like it's a lot more lenient than Persona 4.

[00:10:15] Uh, it's...

[00:10:17] It's probably even more lenient than Persona 5 if you got...

[00:10:19] If the listeners have played those games.

[00:10:21] Um, I have missed achievements now.

[00:10:24] So I...

[00:10:24] I keep checking every now and then.

[00:10:26] There's an achievement for reading all the books and there's an achievement for debating all the debate bros and winning.

[00:10:30] And I missed a debate bro and I missed an opportunity to get a book.

[00:10:35] And so I'm like, oh, well, I'm unbelievably upset.

[00:10:38] And because of that, I downloaded a free idle game and got all the achievements in it.

[00:10:42] It only took like an hour.

[00:10:43] Oh, no.

[00:10:44] And so I needed the dopamine.

[00:10:46] Oh, no.

[00:10:46] I was depressed and now I'm back playing metaphor and it's...

[00:10:49] It's fantastic.

[00:10:51] It's not the idle game.

[00:10:52] Yeah, I got off work last night at like 1230 and got home and he's asleep and the fucking idle game is just running on the...

[00:11:01] Yeah.

[00:11:03] Just destroying the environment with his electricity consumption.

[00:11:07] It just sounds like an It's Always Sunny episode when you walk in and see Frank doing something abomination like I don't know man.

[00:11:16] Oh, Nate.

[00:11:16] It's just a little guy hitting skeletons or something.

[00:11:20] I don't know.

[00:11:21] Yeah.

[00:11:22] Yeah.

[00:11:22] When I woke up, the first thing I did was check it.

[00:11:25] Yeah.

[00:11:25] You had to check it.

[00:11:26] You had to get all your collectibles, click on all the shinies.

[00:11:28] I'm a slave to it.

[00:11:31] All right.

[00:11:31] Well, Nick, it looks like you're playing metaphor too.

[00:11:35] Yeah.

[00:11:35] Yeah.

[00:11:35] I...

[00:11:36] So, I'm behind...

[00:11:38] I don't know if I'm shortly behind where Nave is.

[00:11:40] I'm doing all of the stuff that's leading up to infiltrating the airship because we're going there for an objective.

[00:11:47] So, I don't know if that's like one level or two level more like areas because they're like not really levels.

[00:11:53] They basically are kind of like zones and hubs and you can teleport in between them.

[00:11:57] I mean, this game is incredible, man.

[00:11:59] Like, and Nave and I have talked offline to each other about just like how astounding the writing is for this game and just like gushing over the individual characters.

[00:12:08] And that's what I think like sets this game apart from even Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth, which was the front runner for me in terms of the game of the year and just the love and the care that was put into that game.

[00:12:18] Here, it's like I see that energy, you know, tenfold.

[00:12:22] Right?

[00:12:23] And so, it's just like, yeah, this is not too much to add on because again, it's a very new game.

[00:12:27] I don't want to spoil it for people who might be listening out there and everything that's going on.

[00:12:31] But like, yeah, I am min-maxing this game.

[00:12:35] The reason why I ask you, Nave, is because I am grinding.

[00:12:38] I'm choosing to like whenever you hit dungeons, they have these like, I don't know if they call them eggs or seeds or whatever, but they spawn mob enemies.

[00:12:46] And what you can do is you can, if you position yourself in between two of them, I literally have just like clicked the sound, thrown on a podcast, listen to a game together, listen to a Pixel Project radio episode or whatever.

[00:12:56] And I've just grinded and just like killed them.

[00:12:59] And if you do that while you spec into the merchant class, because the merchant class is something that you can get very early on, you can just rack up so much money.

[00:13:07] And that kind of will eliminate all of the issues that you'll have later on in the game when you want to get in-game weapons or armor.

[00:13:13] And so I'm sitting on like $3 million right now.

[00:13:17] And so, yeah.

[00:13:17] And like I have most of the archetypes that I like switching in between for the cast members that I have right now in the party.

[00:13:25] Like I have most of those at level 20 as well.

[00:13:29] So it's just kind of doing a little bit of the grind there.

[00:13:32] But I feel like I'm going to stop now and try to play the game, just go through it, coast through it, and like based off of whatever normal encounters instead of trying to do like mid-max hacking.

[00:13:42] And just to kind of like see where I land with it or how everybody goes.

[00:13:45] I feel like I can do that from this point onwards.

[00:13:48] But yeah, Metaphor is great.

[00:13:49] Play it.

[00:13:49] Buy it.

[00:13:50] Do it as quick as you can.

[00:13:53] And yeah, and like I said earlier, you know, I beat Little Nightmares 1 and 2 in those games.

[00:13:58] I don't know if everybody on the show here has played those games, but they're legitimately just the first one.

[00:14:04] Yeah.

[00:14:04] Oh, Phil, you owe it to yourself to play the second one if you can find it on a discount or maybe find it on a library somewhere.

[00:14:10] It's currently on Humble Bundle probably out by the time this episode goes out.

[00:14:14] But you can pick up the second game, the special edition with DLC for like $3 or something.

[00:14:21] Oh, yeah.

[00:14:21] Oh, yeah.

[00:14:22] And it's so good.

[00:14:23] And it's like both of those 1 and 2 are almost because of how consistent Tars of the Year Studios was in developing those games.

[00:14:29] They're like the perfect like chapter 1, chapter 2 of the same story.

[00:14:35] Like it just picks back up and ties into itself very, very neatly.

[00:14:39] And there's a lot of cool stuff.

[00:14:40] There's a spoiler in our episode where we talked about it or we were doing theory crafting as to what was going on with that game.

[00:14:46] And it's just it's awesome.

[00:14:47] It's disgusting.

[00:14:48] It's scary.

[00:14:48] But yeah, other than that, I have picked up Veilguard.

[00:14:51] I am playing it.

[00:14:53] I haven't gotten super far.

[00:14:55] You're talking about a real horror game, am I right?

[00:14:56] Yeah.

[00:14:57] Yeah.

[00:14:57] I just I need to I need to play all of this.

[00:15:00] This is my goal is just to play all of the all of the like the games, the contenders this year.

[00:15:06] And I think that Veilguard for, you know, for better or worse, it's going to be a contender.

[00:15:10] I really like the action combat in this game.

[00:15:13] Like, I don't think that there's really that much of a problem with it.

[00:15:15] I'm having a good time playing as like a rogue where he's got the dual blades.

[00:15:19] I'm flipping around the mob enemies.

[00:15:21] The combat isn't like going to be super.

[00:15:25] They're not going to ask a lot from you in this game in terms of combat once you kind of figure out how to do it.

[00:15:30] This is actually my very first Dragon Age game I've ever played.

[00:15:34] I've just seen stuff from from there.

[00:15:37] I've seen stuff from Veilguard and I've seen stuff from Origins.

[00:15:39] So, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that I don't know about the legacy characters in this game.

[00:15:43] And I am coming into it kind of with a blind eye.

[00:15:45] But I'm trying to keep an open mind about it.

[00:15:47] See where it takes me.

[00:15:49] See if I have to grit my teeth and bear through some dialogue here and there that I've been spoiled for so far.

[00:15:55] But I'm going to give it a fair shake and see where I land with it.

[00:15:58] But yeah, there's definitely two camps of people who enjoy this game.

[00:16:02] And it's people who haven't played Origins and people who just don't play RPGs in general.

[00:16:07] Like that seemed to be like the people who are like, this is a game of the year contender.

[00:16:12] Because like out of context, I think the game is fine, especially with the combat.

[00:16:16] And if you just mute the dialogue and just listen to music the whole time, it's probably a vibe.

[00:16:20] You know, it's probably like Earth Defense Forest or you're just killing mobs.

[00:16:23] Oh, yeah.

[00:16:24] I don't know.

[00:16:25] I got a message when Veilguard came out from friend of the pod, JP, childhood friend.

[00:16:29] He just out of the blue messaged me.

[00:16:31] Oh, no.

[00:16:31] And he's like, my dude, have you played Veilguard yet?

[00:16:34] They completely ruined the combat system.

[00:16:36] And I'm like, I've seen more people angry about breast reduction than the combat system.

[00:16:43] But go on.

[00:16:43] And he's like, they've taken away any tactical choice.

[00:16:46] Now you just go out and just murder things.

[00:16:48] Well, that's what I'm saying, though.

[00:16:50] It's like people who haven't played Origins would, if you play the game out of context of like the whole Western RPG ecosystem,

[00:16:57] it's like, oh, this is a pretty decent game.

[00:16:59] But like once you start racking up more and more experience in this genre, it's like, oh, this is like, wow.

[00:17:06] This doesn't change.

[00:17:07] Baby's first RPG.

[00:17:08] Yeah.

[00:17:09] Well, here's the thing.

[00:17:09] I mean, Will and I played Dragon's Dogma 2 this year.

[00:17:13] And my disdain for that game is well documented.

[00:17:15] However, the best part of Dragon's Dogma 2 is the combat system.

[00:17:21] And this combat system isn't super far from the way that you operate and control your character.

[00:17:27] It's like the Veil Guard is like so much closer to an ARPG, to a Diablo, just in a third person over the camera than anybody would have ever imagined,

[00:17:35] especially myself, just like in thinking about what these games were.

[00:17:39] I know that the combat system in 2 had people kind of like wishy-washy on it.

[00:17:44] It wasn't the best, but it was engaging enough to be addictive.

[00:17:47] And then I don't know what anybody says about the Veil Guard, but I'm coming to it from like completely fresh eyes, too,

[00:17:53] because I've been playing nothing but turn-based JRPGs or like turn-paced games.

[00:17:58] I put a big chunk out of Baldur's Gate 3, which is, of course, it's like the one-to-one comparison that everybody's going to make.

[00:18:06] I really don't think like in Veil Guards and Bioware's defense, I don't think that these two games,

[00:18:13] I mean, they share the narrative RPG elements of them trying to tell a story that's been laid out for you

[00:18:18] through the various party members you have.

[00:18:20] But beyond that, there isn't too many similarities that I feel like should be drawn,

[00:18:26] just because they're so diametrically opposed in the systems that they create in those games.

[00:18:30] Do you know why they keep getting compared, Baldur's Gate 3 and Dragon Age Veil Guard?

[00:18:35] Well, because Baldur's Gate is the best written game that we've gotten in like 20 years.

[00:18:40] That's not fair. I mean, that's the unfair reason, but do you know what the fair reason is?

[00:18:46] No.

[00:18:47] Because Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 were made by Bioware.

[00:18:51] No way?

[00:18:52] Yes.

[00:18:52] I didn't know it was Bioware.

[00:18:55] I didn't know it was Bioware. That's crazy, actually.

[00:18:57] Because I know that...

[00:18:58] That's why. It's like such a slap in the face to people that like the old Bioware.

[00:19:03] Do people like those games, though?

[00:19:04] Because before Baldur's Gate 3, I didn't even know it was a franchise, frankly.

[00:19:10] I mean, I tried the first one and I couldn't, but it's because it's old.

[00:19:14] My dad really liked those games when I was a kid.

[00:19:16] Like, they were huge in their time, yeah.

[00:19:18] But there's definitely nothing like how Baldur's Gate 3 is.

[00:19:20] Because I just remember, like, I've been, like, oversaturated with Baldur's Gate my whole life.

[00:19:26] So I've just, like, worked.

[00:19:26] Yeah.

[00:19:27] I know all these characters.

[00:19:28] I still haven't played 3, but, like, I know all the characters because I just, like...

[00:19:33] I like Baldur's Gate as a story.

[00:19:36] Interesting, yeah.

[00:19:37] That's really cool, though.

[00:19:38] So, yeah, I had no idea.

[00:19:39] I mean, the only reason why I knew about Larian was Divinity Original Sin 2.

[00:19:43] And that's a fucking game right there.

[00:19:45] Baldur's Gate 3 is literally just Divinity again, but better.

[00:19:49] Like, it's very good, though.

[00:19:52] Yeah.

[00:19:52] But, yeah.

[00:19:53] So that's the Veil Guard.

[00:19:54] Last thing I do want to point out because there are...

[00:19:56] I would say all three of you would really get into this game.

[00:20:00] And I don't know if you have already.

[00:20:01] You've probably seen the Goof Troop mutterings in the chat between Jono, Nate, and I.

[00:20:06] But Pokemon TCG Pocket is really fucking good, guys.

[00:20:11] It's really good, Phil.

[00:20:14] And you don't have to spend any money on it.

[00:20:15] It's free 99.

[00:20:17] And you can collect all your Pokemans.

[00:20:20] Is this Pokemon's version of Arena?

[00:20:22] Is that what this is?

[00:20:23] Well, Pokemon already has...

[00:20:25] They already have that.

[00:20:26] They have Pokemon trading card online, which I played the crap out of.

[00:20:30] And so...

[00:20:31] This is just in the mobile version.

[00:20:33] Can you redeem cards?

[00:20:34] We're all talking at once.

[00:20:35] But can you redeem cards, like, in the mobile TCG like you can in Pokemon online?

[00:20:41] I don't think so.

[00:20:42] Because they have such a limited...

[00:20:44] They have such a limited Pokedex.

[00:20:45] And I think what's going to happen is that slowly, over time, they're going to, like, expand the Pokedex.

[00:20:49] But there's only, like, 200 entries that you have to unlock.

[00:20:56] I'm pulling it up right now to look at it on my phone.

[00:20:58] But if I'm looking at it, yeah, it's 226 cards.

[00:21:01] And this is of, like, the original...

[00:21:04] You can't see anything on my phone.

[00:21:05] But, yeah, it's, like, mainly the original, like, Kanto region, like, stuff.

[00:21:09] Like, you have your typical Mewtwo, Charizard, Zapdos, Maltris, whatever it is.

[00:21:16] Are these specific cards for the game?

[00:21:18] It's literally the cards from real life that they have.

[00:21:22] Basically, just the digital copies of the game.

[00:21:26] And I don't think...

[00:21:26] Like, Bayside and Jungle and stuff?

[00:21:28] Yeah.

[00:21:29] Yeah, exactly.

[00:21:30] And so...

[00:21:30] The problem with Arena right now is that they have the fucking...

[00:21:33] What is that game mode?

[00:21:34] They have cards specifically for Arena.

[00:21:36] Alchemy.

[00:21:37] In Magic.

[00:21:38] Alchemy.

[00:21:38] AIDS.

[00:21:39] They literally patch...

[00:21:41] They nerf and buff cards in Magic Arena.

[00:21:44] It makes...

[00:21:44] They have a whole, like, team dedicated to alchemy.

[00:21:48] And, like, cards made for alchemy.

[00:21:50] And then it dictates also what's printed in paper.

[00:21:53] Which is the most frustrating part about it.

[00:21:56] Instead of just, like...

[00:21:58] Pokemon being like, okay, these are the cards we have in paper.

[00:22:02] We'll put them in this game.

[00:22:04] Literally, people in alchemy will go...

[00:22:06] Will see previews of cards and be like, can you word this differently so it works better in alchemy?

[00:22:11] And so now, literally, the whole format of cards has changed.

[00:22:15] So that...

[00:22:16] It's so weird.

[00:22:18] It...

[00:22:18] Now, are we talking about Magic?

[00:22:19] Or is this talking about Pokemon?

[00:22:21] Magic.

[00:22:21] We're talking about Magic.

[00:22:22] Okay.

[00:22:23] We're Magic-brained.

[00:22:25] I...

[00:22:25] No, that makes sense.

[00:22:26] I can't stop.

[00:22:27] I would just say that, like, the graphics are really cool.

[00:22:31] The sound design is really awesome.

[00:22:33] And as soon as you...

[00:22:35] And, like, it's very, very easy to get, like, some of the meta decks.

[00:22:39] Like, I'm going for a Mewtwo EX deck right now.

[00:22:41] And it's got Mewtwo and a Guardevoir.

[00:22:43] And I'm, like, you know, just throwing them out there as quick as I can.

[00:22:47] Get a couple of Professor Oaks to pull my cards early.

[00:22:50] Yeah, it's really fun.

[00:22:51] It's really fun.

[00:22:52] And then, like, I don't know.

[00:22:53] It's just...

[00:22:53] This is one of those that...

[00:22:54] It's fun because there are a couple of different metas.

[00:22:57] Like, I'm working on...

[00:22:57] I got my Mewtwo deck.

[00:22:58] I'm working on my Pikachu EX deck right now.

[00:23:01] So I can get that quick attack in if I ever wanted to.

[00:23:03] But, no, it's a good time.

[00:23:05] And it's just a cool thing where it's, like, if I can't really play anything serious,

[00:23:09] I can throw an anime on TV and then just pull out my phone and just go bloop, bloop, and do the Pokemon.

[00:23:15] Does it, like, teach you how to actually play the card game?

[00:23:18] Yeah.

[00:23:18] Yeah.

[00:23:18] No, it's really cool.

[00:23:19] And it's not...

[00:23:20] I mean, I imagine that it's not simplified, but I think the rule sets are one-to-one.

[00:23:25] Like, you have to apply your energy to the Pokemon.

[00:23:28] And you have to make sure that, you know, if you're going to retreat, you're deducting whatever energy you have.

[00:23:33] So it's, like, you can...

[00:23:35] Like, it does ask you to be relatively tactical if you want to win against in a PvP setting.

[00:23:39] Like, I've had some people...

[00:23:41] Like, people are actually kind of troll-y in the PvP setting.

[00:23:44] Like, some of them, as soon as they realize once my Mewtwo EX deck, like, gets pulled out, they're like, oh.

[00:23:49] And then they literally just try to freeze me out by running up their time.

[00:23:53] Yeah, run up the time.

[00:23:54] Run the clock.

[00:23:55] I can't see that shit, man.

[00:23:57] And it's, like, a lot of people trying to get me to, like, play Pokemon.

[00:24:00] And I'm just...

[00:24:01] I don't know how.

[00:24:02] I've never actually played the card game.

[00:24:04] It's literally so easy.

[00:24:05] You could probably literally intuit it.

[00:24:07] I'm probably...

[00:24:09] There's, like, a guy that I work with and he wears, like, a lab coat because he does all the Pokemon events.

[00:24:15] Hell yeah.

[00:24:15] There's a Pokemon.

[00:24:17] That's awesome.

[00:24:17] Yeah.

[00:24:18] Does he go by Professor or something?

[00:24:20] He does, yeah.

[00:24:21] Professor Cedarwood or something?

[00:24:23] Um, I have...

[00:24:23] Or Dogwood himself.

[00:24:25] Jesus fucking Christ.

[00:24:27] Nave ran into the other room.

[00:24:29] What are you doing?

[00:24:31] We have an inside...

[00:24:32] We have the inside scoop on the Nave household.

[00:24:34] Uh, I think there's a closet.

[00:24:35] I've never seen this part of the apartment.

[00:24:37] I've only seen the POV into the living room.

[00:24:40] Uh, his name is Professor Mahogany.

[00:24:43] Sorry.

[00:24:43] I'm present on Discord, so I had to find it.

[00:24:46] That's what's up.

[00:24:47] But, yeah.

[00:24:47] Are you doxing the guy?

[00:24:49] Well, I'm sure it's not his real name.

[00:24:51] I'm doxing Professor Mahogany.

[00:24:54] Who wears a lab coat.

[00:24:56] What is the little Pokemon that kind of looks like a, like, a caterpillar?

[00:25:01] Caterpie?

[00:25:02] Look.

[00:25:03] No, it's a different one, I think.

[00:25:05] Weedle.

[00:25:06] Oh, shit.

[00:25:06] Do you have a bunch of Pokemon cards?

[00:25:08] I have a Pokemon deck.

[00:25:09] A functioning Pokemon deck.

[00:25:11] Oh, hell yeah.

[00:25:11] Is it still functioning?

[00:25:13] Nah, man.

[00:25:13] All those cards are out of date.

[00:25:15] Okay, that made it so much worse.

[00:25:18] Oh, my God.

[00:25:19] That overhead light is crazy.

[00:25:21] That is what I don't have at all.

[00:25:22] Show them the Charizard.

[00:25:24] Or no, the Charizard.

[00:25:24] The Snorlax.

[00:25:26] And the...

[00:25:27] Look at her go.

[00:25:28] You can tell she works in a card shop because she's shuffling through it so quick.

[00:25:33] Oh, yeah.

[00:25:33] We got a full art gold?

[00:25:35] Oh, my gosh.

[00:25:36] Is it a foil?

[00:25:38] Yeah.

[00:25:38] That's a Dragonair.

[00:25:39] Yo, that's so cool.

[00:25:41] That's awesome.

[00:25:42] And then we've got...

[00:25:45] That's not going to do anything at all.

[00:25:47] We got another full art Snorlax.

[00:25:50] Snorlax, let's go.

[00:25:51] That's actually really sick.

[00:25:53] I'm super jealous of you.

[00:25:55] You know, I had a...

[00:25:56] Are those the only cool cards in this day?

[00:25:58] The rest are comments.

[00:26:00] I have really fond memories as a kid when Pokemon first popped off and I was in third or fourth

[00:26:07] grade or something like that and my parents getting me the cards.

[00:26:10] And, like, for a solid, like, two months there, like, that all of my allowance as a kid was

[00:26:15] spent on trying to get the Pokemon cards.

[00:26:17] But then I made the mistake of bringing my binder to school and I'm, like, 99% sure

[00:26:22] that fat kid Richard fucking took it and he put it somewhere.

[00:26:26] And I was so devastated I could never go back.

[00:26:28] Dude, I had a fucking Black Skull Dragon Yu-Gi-Oh deck that I lost.

[00:26:33] I didn't have Pokemon.

[00:26:35] I only had Yu-Gi-Oh.

[00:26:36] I was obsessed with Yu-Gi-Oh and I'd, like, go to my dad's work and then work so that I

[00:26:43] could get a Yu-Gi-Oh deck with him.

[00:26:45] But it was just him babysitting me at work.

[00:26:47] Dude, classic.

[00:26:48] You know, it attracted the thieves, dude.

[00:26:50] I think the Yu-Gi-Oh was the worst.

[00:26:52] Because I got, like, four or five decks stolen Yu-Gi-Oh.

[00:27:04] Oh, we're opening a pack live on camera.

[00:27:07] We're opening a fucking pack.

[00:27:08] Oh my gosh.

[00:27:08] A fucking Guru Smoo?

[00:27:10] A Sanchalot?

[00:27:12] There's a Pokeball.

[00:27:13] A ball?

[00:27:15] A horse?

[00:27:16] Yeah, it's a horse.

[00:27:18] It's a fucking horse.

[00:27:20] That was a garbage deck.

[00:27:21] Yeah, it was a bad pull.

[00:27:22] It was a really bad pull.

[00:27:23] I wonder if I have any free foundations packs on Arena that I can open roll.

[00:27:28] We did not have the Jews for that.

[00:27:30] They have a fucking-

[00:27:31] They printed a fucking two-card infinite combo in Arena.

[00:27:35] Or in any foundations.

[00:27:36] Not in Arena.

[00:27:36] It's in paper.

[00:27:37] Guy walked up to me last night or the night before and was like,

[00:27:40] look what I got in my pre-release kit.

[00:27:42] Here's my deck.

[00:27:43] And I was like, oh, let me look at it.

[00:27:45] First two cards is just an infinite combo.

[00:27:48] And I was like, oh, cool.

[00:27:50] I'm so happy for you.

[00:27:51] I hope you win.

[00:27:52] And it's not even on accident.

[00:27:55] They literally-

[00:27:55] It's fun.

[00:27:56] It's a known type of combo.

[00:27:59] All right, we got another pack going.

[00:28:01] All right, we got Dratini.

[00:28:04] Yep, another one.

[00:28:04] Dratini, okay, let's go.

[00:28:06] Golem.

[00:28:07] Oh.

[00:28:08] Oh, shit.

[00:28:09] Oh, shit, we got Let's Go.

[00:28:10] What the fuck is that?

[00:28:11] Let's fucking get Articuno EX.

[00:28:14] Articuno EX.

[00:28:15] We are so back.

[00:28:16] And we are so back.

[00:28:18] You go from the full art of the Articuno to the crown.

[00:28:23] Drawing him on Lee.

[00:28:25] Yeah, dude, that's the most jarring thing about Pokemon, I think, is the inconsistency with

[00:28:30] the art.

[00:28:31] Yeah.

[00:28:31] Yeah.

[00:28:31] That's another thing with Yu-Gi-Oh, too.

[00:28:33] I think, I just, dude, Magic's art is fucking great.

[00:28:36] And it definitely used to be better.

[00:28:39] Now, because now we've got things like Duskborn where everything looks like fucking goofy goobers.

[00:28:45] Valgovak is an incredibly cool character that they have created in Duskborn.

[00:28:51] I don't know.

[00:28:52] I don't know what that is.

[00:28:53] He's super fucking cool looking.

[00:28:55] So Duskborn has some very cool art and character design.

[00:28:58] Some of the characters in Duskborn look like they'd be right at home in Dragon Age Veilguard

[00:29:02] is what I'm trying to say.

[00:29:04] Oh, yeah.

[00:29:04] I thought you guys were talking about that game Duskborn that was made by those European

[00:29:11] devs in Quantic Dream.

[00:29:12] I actually played that game at PAX.

[00:29:15] How was it?

[00:29:16] And it was really bad, but I was assuming that it was like early alpha, right?

[00:29:20] Yeah.

[00:29:21] And then like the game came out to no acclaim.

[00:29:25] And any claim that it has was just people, basically just the DEI haters online that absolutely

[00:29:33] just decimated it.

[00:29:34] The way that Arena does their PAX is not as good.

[00:29:37] This is the pack that I just opened, but you can't see anything because they're tiny

[00:29:41] cards.

[00:29:41] Yeah, I can't see anything on there.

[00:29:43] So Arena is the Pokemon TCG for Magic.

[00:29:49] Yeah, for Magic.

[00:29:51] So it's like the Pokemon TCG, but instead it's the Magic the Gathering.

[00:29:54] Did they shut down the PTGO?

[00:29:58] MTGO?

[00:29:59] PTGO?

[00:29:59] PTGO?

[00:30:00] Is that what it's a Pokemon trading card online?

[00:30:03] Game online.

[00:30:03] Game online?

[00:30:04] I think that's what it's called.

[00:30:05] Maybe.

[00:30:06] Maybe.

[00:30:07] That would be tragic.

[00:30:08] You know how Nintendo does.

[00:30:09] Whenever they decide to come out with a new thing, they just completely just flush all

[00:30:14] of the work they had done before on any stuff.

[00:30:17] You guarantee you if they come out with another Pokemon MOBA, Pokemon Unite is just going to

[00:30:20] get right down the drain.

[00:30:22] All right.

[00:30:22] Pokemon TCG online started in 2011 and is apparently still available.

[00:30:28] So you can keep playing it.

[00:30:29] Good.

[00:30:29] Good for them.

[00:30:30] They rebooted that thing like two times though because it was so bad every time they made

[00:30:34] it.

[00:30:35] Yeah.

[00:30:36] Yeah.

[00:30:37] I believe you.

[00:30:38] Yep.

[00:30:39] All right.

[00:30:39] Moving on to my games I've been playing.

[00:30:42] Octopath Traveler 2.

[00:30:43] I've been playing it in Japanese voices and text, Snave.

[00:30:47] And I'm a very slow reader.

[00:30:49] So I'm at like 90 hours in this game and still have not finished it.

[00:30:54] You've got 200 hours ahead of you.

[00:30:55] I think I see the finish line coming.

[00:30:57] It's up there.

[00:30:59] No.

[00:31:00] There's no way that game.

[00:31:02] That game is so incredibly long, though.

[00:31:03] It is so long.

[00:31:04] And it's like the level cap.

[00:31:06] So you're talking about like difficulty spikes or whatever.

[00:31:08] Like they fully expect you to just like go off and grind for like six hours in between

[00:31:13] each main mission where it's like, oh, the recommended level for this mission is 45.

[00:31:18] And I'm like, hey, I'm like 43.

[00:31:20] That's good enough.

[00:31:21] Right.

[00:31:22] I didn't know.

[00:31:23] No.

[00:31:23] Those two levels make a huge difference.

[00:31:26] The biggest difference.

[00:31:27] God damn.

[00:31:28] It's so hard.

[00:31:29] I feel like I feel like Atlas does the same damn thing for this, whether it's Persona

[00:31:33] three reloaded or or my experience with with metaphor.

[00:31:36] Like, I feel like if you want to have a relatively easy breezy time, you better fucking grind.

[00:31:43] Persona three and four are much grindier than five.

[00:31:46] I assume because I like I said, I'm not having too much trouble with metaphor, but I do die.

[00:31:51] Like, right.

[00:31:52] Rachel saw me do the boss fight for in the ocean and he killed.

[00:31:57] He one shot me like three times and I was like, oh, OK, that's fucking because they do

[00:32:01] have that thing.

[00:32:03] If you know, you're going to get clapped out.

[00:32:04] Yeah.

[00:32:05] But this is the thing is like they'll have one turn and he goes, I have five actions now

[00:32:09] instead of two.

[00:32:10] And now and then he just fucking hits everyone with a bunch of attacks.

[00:32:14] And I'm just like, well, I couldn't have possibly predicted that.

[00:32:17] But he doesn't have a tell.

[00:32:18] But I mean, I think even though I'm I'm a I'm capable of being killed or like an entire

[00:32:23] fight just ruined, I can still just rewind or reload and then just do the fight again.

[00:32:27] And it's not a big deal.

[00:32:28] It's not like if you die in golden sun, you have to fucking walk all your guys.

[00:32:35] Yeah.

[00:32:35] Golden sun.

[00:32:37] Are there?

[00:32:37] But, you know, we talked about how charming the party was in metaphor is the party in

[00:32:41] Octopath Traveler to really good.

[00:32:44] Yeah.

[00:32:44] Sadly, it's like.

[00:32:45] Sadly, it's almost sad because it's like like I tear up at some moments because I spend

[00:32:51] so much time with these characters and you think like, oh, you know, how deep can we

[00:32:57] get into a a pixel based game?

[00:33:01] But it's fully voice acted.

[00:33:02] You spend so much time walking around traveling with like the trader.

[00:33:07] And as you as you go, you start getting like flashbacks even more to learn more about these

[00:33:12] characters.

[00:33:12] characters.

[00:33:13] And it's really well done.

[00:33:16] And they didn't have this in the first game, I don't think.

[00:33:18] But they have moments where it's just like while you're walking, a little thing will pop

[00:33:22] up and it'll be like a skit, I guess.

[00:33:24] And you can like press it and then you'll have an interaction between two of your party members

[00:33:28] that are like, hey, the healer would be like, oh, you know, I saved.

[00:33:33] You know, yeah, we like tails.

[00:33:35] Or it's like your soldier.

[00:33:37] Or it's named like light or whatever.

[00:33:39] He's like, oh, Akari.

[00:33:41] That's it.

[00:33:41] He's like, I killed like a thousand people in this battlefield, you know, one point.

[00:33:46] And then the healer is like, well, I saved like a thousand people on this same battlefield,

[00:33:50] you know, so many years before or whatever.

[00:33:52] He's like, we were on the same battlefield as like a medic.

[00:33:55] And he was like a captain at the time.

[00:33:58] And I'm like, that's that's pretty badass where like we're getting more backstory without

[00:34:02] it being physically shown.

[00:34:04] And this is just a quick little one off text conversation.

[00:34:07] So it's it feels like the thousand dreams or whatever in Lost Odyssey.

[00:34:13] Yeah.

[00:34:13] Where you get like stories of like the characters from before you got to play as them.

[00:34:18] And I love that.

[00:34:21] Incredible game so far.

[00:34:22] I'm definitely going to finish it as my final Japanese game.

[00:34:26] I'm trying to put off everything else.

[00:34:28] I got a Steam deck now loaded with games, ready to play.

[00:34:31] It's like a robot.

[00:34:33] Oh, yeah.

[00:34:34] Am I going to go robot mode?

[00:34:35] I wasn't sure if it was just me.

[00:34:37] You're back.

[00:34:38] You're back.

[00:34:38] Yeah, I'm back.

[00:34:39] But Octopath Traveler, good.

[00:34:41] Going to keep playing it before I play anything else, except for, of course, Black Ops, which

[00:34:45] we're going to talk about later.

[00:34:47] And that goes right into being super emotional because I was just thinking about I was waiting

[00:34:51] for you to finish.

[00:34:52] But like there is this part, the side mission with this character that owns a shop, like

[00:34:57] the magic equipment that people used to use magic.

[00:35:00] And like there's this part where she I don't know how far you are in it, Nick, but you should

[00:35:04] be pretty close to where I'm at because we're close to the same area.

[00:35:06] But like she is like things are just going getting worse and worse for her.

[00:35:11] And she specifically says, why won't you let me give up?

[00:35:15] And I was like sitting there staring at that like with a tear in my eye.

[00:35:19] And then Rachel's just next to me playing Vampire Survivor.

[00:35:22] So I'm just trying to not cry.

[00:35:23] She's like laying back on me.

[00:35:25] And I'm just like holding it in, like gripping the controller.

[00:35:28] Into the background, he goes, I can feel his tension and I just can't even care because

[00:35:37] I'm just so fixated on the Vampire Survivor.

[00:35:42] He's like, did you see that?

[00:35:44] And I'm like, yeah, I totally saw that.

[00:35:47] Really good stuff.

[00:35:49] One of the even even one of the sillier side missions is like it gets serious.

[00:35:54] And I'm just like, wow.

[00:35:55] Wow.

[00:35:56] Like, it's so good.

[00:35:58] All right.

[00:35:59] Put us on.

[00:36:00] Oh, there's this.

[00:36:01] I think are we moving to what did they buy?

[00:36:03] Oh, yeah.

[00:36:04] What did they buy?

[00:36:07] Oh, so I'm playing the PlayStation.

[00:36:10] Apparently, boys, look at me over here.

[00:36:12] I bought Death Stranding with Shadow Dropped on the Xbox.

[00:36:15] Look at that.

[00:36:16] Very in a time where our country needs unity the most.

[00:36:19] And the console wars are at their most dire.

[00:36:24] Hideo Kojima.

[00:36:25] I don't know.

[00:36:26] Mr. Stranding himself.

[00:36:28] Almost forgot his name.

[00:36:28] Mr. Stranding.

[00:36:30] Comes down from above and grants us this one baby in a jar.

[00:36:34] I don't know what this game is about, but I'm going to try it.

[00:36:37] It's about connections, Dave.

[00:36:39] Who did that?

[00:36:40] Cletus and the Fetus.

[00:36:41] Someone deleted one of my pictures.

[00:36:42] But yeah, I put it back.

[00:36:44] Cletus and the Fetus.

[00:36:45] That is the code name for the game when they were developed.

[00:36:50] Is that real?

[00:36:51] I remember that.

[00:36:53] I was going to say, don't fuck with me.

[00:36:56] But also, everybody say it together with me now.

[00:36:58] Thank you, Hideo Kojima.

[00:37:00] Thank you for saving Xbox, Hideo.

[00:37:02] Blessed be.

[00:37:04] We gave it away on Epic Games multiple times at this point.

[00:37:07] You can just play it there.

[00:37:09] Well, they also...

[00:37:11] Well, I mean, they...

[00:37:13] It came out earlier on Game Pass, right?

[00:37:15] It was like for a year.

[00:37:17] It was just on Game Pass.

[00:37:18] Yeah, it was PC Game Pass.

[00:37:20] Yeah.

[00:37:20] So it was weird because you could get Xbox achievements, but you couldn't play it on Xbox.

[00:37:24] So that was weird.

[00:37:25] But yeah, so now Hideo Kojima actually owns the IP.

[00:37:28] So I wonder if the second game is going to come out.

[00:37:31] What's most crazy?

[00:37:32] This game got shadow dropped on the day the PlayStation 5 Pro came out.

[00:37:36] And this is the first Sony exclusive engine on Xbox.

[00:37:43] It runs on the Decima engine.

[00:37:44] That is in-house Sony engine, which is very weird.

[00:37:49] Anyway, no one cares about that.

[00:37:52] The next PlayStation exclusive turned Xbox playable stray.

[00:37:56] I bought this game.

[00:37:57] It was on Game Pass.

[00:37:58] I didn't play it while it was on Game Pass, and now I had to buy it like a scrub.

[00:38:02] Stray wasn't in PlayStation exclusive.

[00:38:04] It was on PC, too.

[00:38:04] Yeah, it was on PC.

[00:38:05] I remember seeing it on Steam.

[00:38:07] That's why I knew it was sad when you bought it.

[00:38:09] That's where I played it first.

[00:38:11] Well, I meant like console exclusives.

[00:38:12] I heard that game was very sad.

[00:38:14] Yeah, yeah.

[00:38:15] And I don't want to cry over a little K-Cat.

[00:38:18] I'm sure it'll be right.

[00:38:19] It's really sad.

[00:38:21] Yeah, that's what I've heard.

[00:38:23] It's really fucking sad.

[00:38:24] It freaks me out.

[00:38:25] I don't know if I can handle how sad that I've heard it was.

[00:38:29] It's just like, for my two cents, I would say that it's not overwhelming.

[00:38:34] No?

[00:38:34] And you don't have to be scared for the cat's safety.

[00:38:40] Bullshit.

[00:38:41] If this is an indie game and the cat doesn't die, I'm going to ride it.

[00:38:44] I want to cry right now thinking about a little cat.

[00:38:49] That cat better be on its dying breath and reaching its paw towards the camera.

[00:38:53] He's so cute.

[00:38:54] He's got a backpack on and goggles.

[00:38:55] He's going to be fine.

[00:38:56] That would be like if you were like, here, play Little Kitty, Big City, but it dies.

[00:39:01] Like, no.

[00:39:02] I can't handle that.

[00:39:06] If I'm playing this little cat, I want it to be cute and fun and not sad.

[00:39:11] You should open your heart to all of the range of feelings that you could get from this game

[00:39:16] because it's that worth it.

[00:39:18] It's worth it for sure.

[00:39:19] I'll probably play it.

[00:39:20] They did do that at the beginning of, what was that game?

[00:39:25] The two children and the rats.

[00:39:28] You know what I'm talking about?

[00:39:29] Oh, yeah.

[00:39:29] Plague Tale.

[00:39:30] Sound children.

[00:39:30] Plague Tale.

[00:39:31] No, that's it.

[00:39:31] Yeah.

[00:39:32] Plague Tale, they had a dog and it died right at the beginning.

[00:39:34] I was like, oh.

[00:39:35] What did you say?

[00:39:36] Did you say?

[00:39:37] Sad children.

[00:39:37] Sad children.

[00:39:38] Oh, yeah.

[00:39:39] That game.

[00:39:40] That's cool.

[00:39:40] Sad children.

[00:39:41] Dude.

[00:39:42] Fucking Wilbur and Amicia.

[00:39:43] Those two, they're the saddest children.

[00:39:46] I hate them so much.

[00:39:48] Wilbur.

[00:39:49] I don't remember his name.

[00:39:50] Isn't that a pig?

[00:39:52] You kill some pigs at one point, too.

[00:39:54] I think his name is Hugo.

[00:39:55] I could be wrong about that.

[00:39:56] I think his name is Hugo.

[00:39:57] Hugo and Amicia.

[00:39:58] Yeah, you kill some pigs.

[00:40:00] I can't play that.

[00:40:02] Oh, and then they bully you afterwards.

[00:40:04] And Hugo's like, Amicia, why'd you have to kill all the pigs?

[00:40:08] Yeah, they should.

[00:40:11] Why does that sound like Mario?

[00:40:15] That's what they sound like, dude.

[00:40:17] It's not.

[00:40:17] It's French, but they're not Italian.

[00:40:21] Okay, that's fine.

[00:40:22] Similar parts of the world.

[00:40:24] Dude, that's so funny.

[00:40:26] I saw that, you know, VR chat.

[00:40:27] There's like this little fucking guy in like the, what is his name?

[00:40:31] The Ugandan Knuckles.

[00:40:32] Oh, I love Ugandan Knuckles.

[00:40:34] He's like screaming in Spanish.

[00:40:36] It's like European Spanish.

[00:40:38] And he's screaming.

[00:40:39] And then they're like, what did he say?

[00:40:41] And he's like, I don't know.

[00:40:42] He's speaking like French or something.

[00:40:45] And he's like, I don't know.

[00:40:50] I need VR chat so bad.

[00:40:52] It just seems so fun.

[00:40:54] So stupid.

[00:40:55] I would lose myself in that.

[00:40:56] I wouldn't do anything for the pot anymore.

[00:40:58] Anyways, I bought Children of Mortia.

[00:41:00] Another Game Pass game.

[00:41:02] Yeah, so this game, it was like three bucks.

[00:41:06] And I was like, oh, cool.

[00:41:08] I'll buy that.

[00:41:10] I'll buy that for three bucks.

[00:41:11] But it looks like Diablo, Roguelike, kind of weird.

[00:41:15] It's local co-op, which is why I ended up buying it.

[00:41:17] That screenshot's from local co-op.

[00:41:19] You see it in the corner there.

[00:41:21] He knows that I'm very unwilling to go into the other room to play the Xbox with him.

[00:41:26] So he's learned to just buy local co-op games.

[00:41:30] Yeah.

[00:41:30] Well, I mean, we'll talk about it in a minute.

[00:41:33] But we did play Black Ops local co-op, which was an interesting experience.

[00:41:37] Yeah, it was bad.

[00:41:39] It was something.

[00:41:40] It was something.

[00:41:41] So Children of Mortia, that's it.

[00:41:43] I don't have any updates other than that, Phillip.

[00:41:45] Are there any pod updates?

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[00:42:02] whenever we upload the file.

[00:42:05] But, you know, it's just beep boop.

[00:42:08] Insert robot filter.

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[00:42:19] It's funny every time.

[00:42:20] Every time.

[00:42:21] All right, let's take a quick break and then we can judge some assholes.

[00:42:25] Easy place.

[00:42:25] Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

[00:42:28] All right, our current spread is we are seven minutes over.

[00:42:31] But we're doing good, guys.

[00:42:34] Does anyone need a bathroom break?

[00:42:35] Let me fuck it up.

[00:42:36] So there's this tweet that says, who did more damage to the discourse in the gaming industry?

[00:42:42] IGN or Digital Foundry?

[00:42:44] Oh, it's definitely Kotaku, you know?

[00:42:46] No, that's the thing.

[00:42:47] Okay, see, you stole it from my mouth.

[00:42:50] But if it was Kotaku rather than IGN, I would have been like, oh, Kotaku definitely.

[00:42:53] But now if it's IGN, it's like, well, they're shitty.

[00:42:58] But Digital Foundry has definitely wounded gaming discourse.

[00:43:03] I don't know if Philip is in on this because I don't know.

[00:43:05] I don't know the Gaming Foundry one.

[00:43:07] But I do.

[00:43:08] I have so much more respect for IGN for bombastically attacking the brothership game.

[00:43:15] Fuck you.

[00:43:16] I'm doing this with Thrak and then also you.

[00:43:21] Wait, are you anti-brothership propaganda?

[00:43:25] He just hates Nintendo.

[00:43:27] He's like me with Sony.

[00:43:29] Really?

[00:43:30] Yeah.

[00:43:30] You do not fuck with this?

[00:43:31] I thought you liked the Pokemans, Philip.

[00:43:33] Oh, dude, I love all their franchises, all their characters.

[00:43:36] I love the Marios.

[00:43:38] It's great.

[00:43:39] But every time they do something, it seems to be the wrong move.

[00:43:44] I can't ethically support them the same way I can't ethically support Wizards of the Coast.

[00:43:49] It's weird Nintendo decisions, you know what I mean?

[00:43:51] It's what they're known for.

[00:43:52] They just make bad decisions of the corporation.

[00:43:56] That's pretty much it.

[00:43:58] Anti-consumer of the corporation.

[00:43:59] Even my favorite YouTubers aren't safe.

[00:44:01] They can't even play their games on stream without getting DCM-ed or whatever.

[00:44:05] Have you guys seen this increase of litigation that Nintendo is performing on emulator YouTubers?

[00:44:15] People who review the emulation handhelds and they're like fucking retro game core?

[00:44:21] Yeah.

[00:44:21] They're DNCAing them out of the asshole and it's crazy.

[00:44:26] It's the weird thing with the Nintendo.

[00:44:28] I understand that if they want to fight the good fight with people like Power World and whoever the fuck.

[00:44:36] I don't remember who owns Nexon or who owns Power World.

[00:44:39] No, it's not a good fight.

[00:44:40] But they can fight Power World if they want.

[00:44:42] But at least the Power World company has like a publisher backing that they can fight against like a copyright claim or whatever.

[00:44:49] And it's also very weird.

[00:44:50] I don't know if you've been paying attention to what they've actually been copywriting or they call it.

[00:44:55] You can't capture creatures with objects.

[00:44:59] Throwing a ball into open fields or something.

[00:45:01] It's like, okay, so we can't do that in video games anymore because Nintendo has that.

[00:45:06] By the way, almost all the patents, from what I've seen, I mean Twitter lies sometimes, but from what I've seen, almost all the patents were filed after Power World came out.

[00:45:16] And then they retroactively were like, we're going to see you about this now.

[00:45:21] But yeah, Nintendo's stupid company.

[00:45:24] Anyways, Digital Foundry, Phillip, they're the guys who like show the comparisons between PlayStation and Xbox.

[00:45:30] Like how many frames per second.

[00:45:31] So when a game is one frame per second, a little bit more, they're like, ooh, looks like PlayStation wins.

[00:45:35] PS5 Pro.

[00:45:36] Which is interesting and cool.

[00:45:37] One frame more.

[00:45:39] But it's been going on for a long time and it's directly contributed to this fucking teraflops fucking conversation that people are always having now.

[00:45:48] I don't even know what a teraflop is.

[00:45:50] What is it?

[00:45:51] It's not RAM.

[00:45:53] It's not CPU.

[00:45:55] Like what is a fucking teraflop?

[00:45:57] And this is like, I can see 15 more leaves on the tree 17 miles away and death stranding on the PlayStation 5 Pro.

[00:46:05] So they win.

[00:46:06] You should play it on that.

[00:46:07] I'm like, oh God.

[00:46:09] I fucking hate you so much.

[00:46:11] I wouldn't give you a swirly so bad.

[00:46:13] My problem is, is that like, I don't think that they're bought and paid for the way that I definitely believe that companies who own like companies like IGN are.

[00:46:23] But at the same time, I feel like it's the fact is that they're creating this content for people out here who don't understand the context of like what it means to have like, you know, 19 by 20 and 1080 resolution versus like looking at like a screen handheld screen on the raw ally and it being 1080p.

[00:46:44] Right.

[00:46:45] Like not necessarily needing to be 4K 60 frames per second because of the size of the handheld.

[00:46:51] I don't know.

[00:46:51] Like it's just like they go into the technicalities and they'll like, yeah, at the end of it all, they'll say, yes, we award the PlayStation.

[00:46:58] The Golden Flower is the best place to play X video game, whereas like you could have a perfectly serviceable time over playing on Xbox or better time potentially playing on PC, whatever the case may be.

[00:47:09] But yeah, I don't know.

[00:47:11] Just they put a lot of arrows in the quiver of people who like want to do the console warning.

[00:47:17] Let's finish this thought before I start talking.

[00:47:20] If you want to reply to that.

[00:47:21] Oh my God, why?

[00:47:24] That's all good for me.

[00:47:25] Okay, so just another tweet.

[00:47:28] I've got the fucking the Chromebook actually that you sent me.

[00:47:31] I've got it over here.

[00:47:32] I've been using it.

[00:47:33] The second monitor.

[00:47:34] I gotcha.

[00:47:36] Yeah, the second monitor.

[00:47:37] And I just saw another tweet that's from Larry Erb.

[00:47:39] Do you guys remember Major Nelson?

[00:47:41] Yeah.

[00:47:42] He just tweeted and this blows my fucking mind that he tweeted this, but it says finally got a chance to start the COD campaign.

[00:47:50] Black Ops 6.

[00:47:50] The first achievement popped as rare for the beating the first mission, basically the tutorial.

[00:47:55] Because by the looks of it, less than 10% of those playing are playing it for the campaign, even two weeks after release.

[00:48:04] That makes me moderately upset that he doesn't understand how the achievement list works.

[00:48:12] Like, Philip, do you understand why that's a fucking stupid statement?

[00:48:18] Well, no, because the problem with the achievement list is that it's for Call of Duty, not Black Ops.

[00:48:26] Exactly.

[00:48:26] Yes.

[00:48:27] So it has Modern Warfare 2 and 3, and God knows what else.

[00:48:31] Warzone and shit.

[00:48:32] There's a million achievements inside of that one list.

[00:48:34] And that list was – it's like complaining that only 10% of the people beat the first level in Halo 3 on the Master Chief collection.

[00:48:42] You know what I'm saying?

[00:48:44] It's like –

[00:48:47] Woo!

[00:48:48] It makes me so mad.

[00:48:49] If it was just a random person –

[00:48:51] Yeah, sadly.

[00:48:52] Is he still even an executive at Xbox?

[00:48:54] No.

[00:48:55] Like, is he still actively employed by them?

[00:48:57] Okay.

[00:48:58] I think.

[00:48:58] Because I was going to say, like, if he's still an Xbox spokesperson, that would be highly concerning.

[00:49:03] But he's – that's what I'm saying is that he's been one for a long – he was in the Xbox One generation and shit, right?

[00:49:09] It hasn't been that long since he's been kicked out.

[00:49:11] What about Reggie?

[00:49:12] So it's like –

[00:49:12] How does Reggie feel about Black Ops?

[00:49:14] He's gone.

[00:49:15] He's gone.

[00:49:16] How does Reggie feel about Black Ops?

[00:49:18] You keep talking.

[00:49:19] Are we on the position that Reggie was actually a gamer?

[00:49:24] Like, do we actually think that he played games unlike Jim Ryan?

[00:49:28] I don't know.

[00:49:28] He definitely didn't play games.

[00:49:31] Maybe.

[00:49:31] I think he played some games.

[00:49:34] He's not like Phil Spencer, dude.

[00:49:35] Philly spins.

[00:49:36] He'd be on it, dude.

[00:49:38] Philly will body me if we're going gamer score for gamer score over the course of a year.

[00:49:42] Like, that man is putting in hours.

[00:49:45] I can't find anything about Reggie Fils-Aimé and Black Ops in the same article, unfortunately.

[00:49:50] Speaking of – you wanted some more cancer for the brain.

[00:49:55] Speaking of CEOs that have a lot of hours in games, did you see that Elon Musk is like in the top 20 in Diablo 4 in the world?

[00:50:05] He's like number 19 or 18 or something like that.

[00:50:07] It makes sense because he's not paying attention to politics.

[00:50:10] Well –

[00:50:10] I mean, you fucking – that fucking moron.

[00:50:13] God, I hate that dude so much.

[00:50:16] He's smart about something.

[00:50:17] I don't know what it is, but he's got that – he's smart about something.

[00:50:22] I don't know.

[00:50:23] I think he's smart at being a con artist.

[00:50:25] I think he's just – he's got the megalomania or maybe the sociopathy to allow him to con a lot of different people throughout his life to get into the city.

[00:50:36] I think – I definitely think he just wants to be – this is the first Am I the Asshole, by the way, listener.

[00:50:41] But like – is Elon Musk an asshole?

[00:50:43] But like – dude, he definitely – oh, fuck.

[00:50:46] Oh, no.

[00:50:46] We just lost Bill up for a second.

[00:50:48] But it's still recording.

[00:50:49] Should we keep going?

[00:50:49] Yeah, keep going.

[00:50:50] It's still recording.

[00:50:51] Okay.

[00:50:52] We're good.

[00:50:52] We're good.

[00:50:53] If it's – if it kept going, then it should be good.

[00:50:55] So, yeah.

[00:50:56] He got upset about the Elon Musk talk.

[00:50:57] It's his hero.

[00:51:00] No, I missed a lot of whatever that just happened.

[00:51:03] Okay, we're talking about Elon Musk.

[00:51:04] So, he definitely just wants people to admire him or to accept him.

[00:51:10] He's definitely that kind of person that will do anything for people's acceptance to the point where he accidentally inadvertently basically rigged the election with how badly he turned Twitter into a propaganda website.

[00:51:24] And I genuinely –

[00:51:25] For Putin or Trump?

[00:51:27] It's a little bit of both.

[00:51:29] Yes.

[00:51:29] Yes is the answer.

[00:51:32] Oh, man.

[00:51:33] Oh, no.

[00:51:34] We can't get into it.

[00:51:35] This is going to blow.

[00:51:36] We're going to get flagged again.

[00:51:37] Let's not –

[00:51:39] All right.

[00:51:39] And we're back.

[00:51:40] I didn't take the election well, listener.

[00:51:42] That's what I'm trying to say.

[00:51:44] Oh, my God.

[00:51:46] So, we can't talk about this since we're in the asshole section where we're going to go online and help some gamers in need to see if they're assholes or not.

[00:51:52] The amount of the am I asshole section has become unusable because it's just people going in there and to be like, am I an asshole for dumping my, you know, stuck-up boyfriend because how he voted in the election trying to take away my rights.

[00:52:07] Am I right, sisters?

[00:52:08] Rise up.

[00:52:08] And I'm like, oh, God.

[00:52:10] It's like, am I the asshole because I had my Republican roommate.

[00:52:15] I embarrassed him on social media because he doesn't pay any bills and I said that.

[00:52:21] That's what it is.

[00:52:23] It's truly – that's all it is.

[00:52:24] What's wild is that on my – so, I'm an innocuous person on Facebook.

[00:52:29] You know, I rile some feathers, but that's it.

[00:52:31] I don't do a whole lot.

[00:52:32] But I post random pictures and just randomly I was thinking about that scene from Jay and Silent Bob where they were like, a woman's body is her own fucking business.

[00:52:41] And I found that picture and just posted it on my account.

[00:52:46] And it's got – let me go look now because it just randomly is like – okay, it's got 90 shares.

[00:52:51] So, I'm like, what the fuck – my things usually get like one like.

[00:52:55] And that's rare if I get one like on Facebook.

[00:52:58] No one pays attention to me over there.

[00:52:59] But randomly I'll be scrolling and I just see some random person retweeted me.

[00:53:03] Like, I'm like, what the fuck is – over here on Facebook.

[00:53:08] Like, this shit's got – the females is a little upset.

[00:53:11] What do you think about that, Rachel?

[00:53:13] Are you upset?

[00:53:15] Super upset, but, you know, what can I do?

[00:53:18] I've been off social media for the last like week mostly.

[00:53:22] Good for you.

[00:53:23] I just fucking can't.

[00:53:25] She's been happier.

[00:53:26] She's been glowing, you know?

[00:53:27] I've been playing Vampire Survivor instead of scrolling Facebook.

[00:53:31] It's been great.

[00:53:32] Flooding your neurons with dopamine.

[00:53:35] I love it.

[00:53:36] It's weird.

[00:53:36] I've been on social media.

[00:53:37] I've like paid attention to it loosely.

[00:53:39] But my feed has been just like flooded with like silly shit.

[00:53:44] Like silly non-consequential, non-political shit.

[00:53:47] Which I feel is like very weird.

[00:53:49] Like you see the occasional political post about people wringing their hands or whatever.

[00:53:54] But then it was just like that.

[00:53:55] And then whenever I'm on Instagram, all I get is just like cooking videos the entire time.

[00:53:59] So it's like –

[00:54:00] I've been watching a lot of cooking videos on YouTube.

[00:54:03] It's been great.

[00:54:04] Yeah.

[00:54:05] What did you say, Phil?

[00:54:06] Are you being manipulated?

[00:54:07] I feel like I am.

[00:54:10] I feel like I am.

[00:54:10] I feel like I am.

[00:54:11] Of political unrest.

[00:54:12] I feel like they don't want me to see what the good talk is talking.

[00:54:17] But this is the thing, Phillip.

[00:54:18] Is that morally good?

[00:54:21] Oh, to keep the peace?

[00:54:22] It's helping my mental health at the very least.

[00:54:25] It's helping me not –

[00:54:25] It's helping me not –

[00:54:26] Power is accumulated?

[00:54:27] Fucking spiral.

[00:54:28] We're in Metal Gear Solid 2 ending territory right now.

[00:54:32] Wait.

[00:54:32] I have no idea what's going on because I just haven't been paying attention at all.

[00:54:38] As long as we don't turn into Final Fantasy XIII 2, you know, that'll be real bad.

[00:54:43] Yeah.

[00:54:44] Because that game is all about time travel and fixing shit with the time machine.

[00:54:48] I mean, are the American people just Big Boss or are we Liquid Snake?

[00:54:53] Which is it?

[00:54:54] Neither.

[00:54:55] Damn.

[00:54:55] Neither, yeah.

[00:54:56] We are just the NPCs.

[00:54:59] Oh, shit.

[00:55:00] That was bad.

[00:55:00] We are the masses being controlled through social media that they predicted, you know,

[00:55:05] 14 years ago whenever that game came out.

[00:55:07] Dude, there's too much information.

[00:55:09] There's too much information.

[00:55:10] We need something to eliminate all the bad information.

[00:55:15] I'm proud of that.

[00:55:15] Does anybody have an asshole they want to help out?

[00:55:18] Yep.

[00:55:19] I sure do.

[00:55:20] Rachel's got one.

[00:55:20] Which one?

[00:55:21] I have one, but I'm happy to let Rachel go first.

[00:55:25] Starvee, 103.

[00:55:26] Let's do this.

[00:55:27] Did you open a window, Rachel?

[00:55:28] It's fucking hot.

[00:55:29] Yeah, I opened a window.

[00:55:31] It gets really warm in here.

[00:55:33] Are you shitting me?

[00:55:34] Is the air conditioner on?

[00:55:35] I don't know.

[00:55:37] There's no air circulation in this room, so I looked at the temperature, which said 53 degrees outside.

[00:55:43] And I was like, yep, I'm opening this window before I start to sit down.

[00:55:49] Melting.

[00:55:50] I respect you.

[00:55:53] All right.

[00:55:54] So this is from throwawaygirl1010.

[00:55:58] And she...

[00:56:01] Oh, God.

[00:56:02] It's just...

[00:56:03] The only other post she did was making a Facebook game out of a shooter scenario.

[00:56:10] And it got removed.

[00:56:12] Is that like the mafia Facebook game?

[00:56:15] Does anyone know?

[00:56:16] No, it's just like...

[00:56:18] Just a post on Facebook that says, you enter a room with an active shooter killing so many people.

[00:56:23] What do you do?

[00:56:25] It's like a fucking...

[00:56:26] Like a slide, a PowerPoint.

[00:56:27] I can't get that.

[00:56:28] Where you just click.

[00:56:29] No, it's like a choose your own adventure.

[00:56:30] Well, I was thinking, because there's that...

[00:56:32] What is it?

[00:56:32] Depression quest?

[00:56:33] That Zoe Quinn?

[00:56:34] You know what I'm talking about?

[00:56:36] No clue.

[00:56:37] Does no one know...

[00:56:38] This is what kicked off Gamergate.

[00:56:40] Like, this is what I'm referring to.

[00:56:42] What?

[00:56:44] Never mind.

[00:56:45] I don't know what else Gate is.

[00:56:47] I don't know what Gamergate is.

[00:56:48] Sorry.

[00:56:50] Oh, I wish that was you.

[00:56:51] I don't even know if I do either.

[00:56:53] All right.

[00:56:54] I'm ready.

[00:56:55] Am I the asshole for having a dark-skinned Animal Crossing character, although I'm white in real life?

[00:57:02] This is digital blackface, by the way.

[00:57:05] That's what this phenomenon is called.

[00:57:06] I can't even believe I'm writing this.

[00:57:13] It feels so ridiculous, but I feel like I'm going out of my mind.

[00:57:20] Going out of my mind?

[00:57:21] Going out of my mind.

[00:57:23] Is that a British saying?

[00:57:24] Maybe.

[00:57:24] Are we talking about a British person?

[00:57:26] Several of my friends have now expressed that they think it's covert racism and cultural appropriation

[00:57:35] because my Animal Crossing character is black.

[00:57:42] You're just retching in the background.

[00:57:44] No, we gotta take this seriously, guys.

[00:57:45] This is serious.

[00:57:46] We have to help her.

[00:57:47] We have to help her.

[00:57:49] I'm a white female.

[00:57:51] But when I started playing, I decided I would make my character have dark skin, pink hair, and purple eyes.

[00:57:59] What if she just wanted to be tan?

[00:58:01] Is she allowed to be tan?

[00:58:02] Literally nothing like what I look like in person because I just wanted it to be a cute character.

[00:58:10] I even gave my character a different name that's nothing like mine.

[00:58:15] I just got fucking...

[00:58:16] Hold on.

[00:58:17] It depends on the name.

[00:58:18] I just literally just flossed my nostrils with PBRs now.

[00:58:22] This could be a Lovecraft's cat situation.

[00:58:27] Oh, yeah.

[00:58:28] The name is really, really bad.

[00:58:30] I don't know if that's the...

[00:58:32] I don't know.

[00:58:33] That's so wild that you create a character that's not like you.

[00:58:37] Who would do that?

[00:58:38] Who would do such a thing?

[00:58:41] I don't know.

[00:58:42] In a game, I only play as exact similes of me.

[00:58:46] Boys, is it cultural appropriation if I make a big titty blonde girl my main character in the video game I'm playing?

[00:58:52] If she's white, then no.

[00:58:53] Well, no, because you're a big titty blonde girl.

[00:58:57] But big titty blonde girls have their own culture too, don't they?

[00:59:02] Oh, my nose hurts.

[00:59:04] I've been playing for about a month.

[00:59:07] Let her read this.

[00:59:09] I've been playing for about a month.

[00:59:11] And I don't have live.

[00:59:14] But I found an adorable villager and I sent my friends who don't play Animal Crossing.

[00:59:22] This is AC, but I think Assassin's Creed.

[00:59:25] You don't play Assassin's Creed.

[00:59:29] Famous female player game.

[00:59:31] A picture of my screen and bam, they started telling me it's not right to make my character white.

[00:59:38] Because only black people should be able to use darker skin color options.

[00:59:45] I keep telling them that's stupid because it's just a game.

[00:59:49] If I ever have a daughter, I'll buy her all skin color Barbies to play with.

[00:59:55] It shouldn't be any different.

[00:59:57] I ended up asking my coworkers about it.

[01:00:01] A few of who play the game.

[01:00:03] And they also said it's similar to doing blackface, just virtual.

[01:00:10] Seriously.

[01:00:11] This is five years ago.

[01:00:11] This is around the time that digital blackface first became a thing.

[01:00:14] I wanted to mention, though, the Barbies of different colors.

[01:00:18] Would you be alarmed if you bought your daughter's Barbies of different colors and they treated the darker skinned ones differently?

[01:00:24] Very cute.

[01:00:25] You need to watch out for that.

[01:00:27] That's something to keep in the eye out for as a parent, I'm sure.

[01:00:33] Seriously, am I the asshole?

[01:00:34] I don't see how it could be wrong when it's just a character I love and created for the purpose of the game.

[01:00:42] Too long, didn't read.

[01:00:44] Made my Animal Crossing character a dark-skinned girl.

[01:00:50] Even named her something else.

[01:00:52] And my friends and coworkers think it's racist blackface.

[01:00:57] Now, Animal Crossing might get a red flag.

[01:01:00] Because if we were talking about Assassin's Creed, they have the warning up front that this game was made by many cultures and all that other stuff.

[01:01:08] So when you play as a Middle Eastern man in Assassin's Creed, you know it's okay.

[01:01:13] That's fine.

[01:01:14] Nothing like that from Nintendo.

[01:01:15] Yeah, this white girl made this Animal Crossing character.

[01:01:18] That's wrong.

[01:01:20] First of all, I play The Sims.

[01:01:21] I'm gonna start.

[01:01:24] I have been an avid Simmer my entire life.

[01:01:27] I've played every Sim game.

[01:01:29] Basically, all of the expansions.

[01:01:33] You don't just make white people just because you're white.

[01:01:35] That's fucking weird.

[01:01:37] Hold on.

[01:01:38] So these people are clearly Zoomers, right?

[01:01:39] Yeah, I only have white people in my Simstown.

[01:01:42] That sounds more racist than being like, yeah.

[01:01:46] You might be lashing out right now.

[01:01:48] Hold on.

[01:01:48] So these people are clearly like Zoomers, right?

[01:01:50] And Zoomers didn't live through Skyrim.

[01:01:51] And everyone knows that whenever you played Skyrim, you couldn't create an Argonian because you're not a lizard person.

[01:01:57] So there was a very small minority of lizard characters out there.

[01:02:02] And we never got to experience that.

[01:02:04] In Morrowind, Oblivion, any of those.

[01:02:06] You know how I feel about lizard men.

[01:02:09] They're your favorite.

[01:02:10] I've got a thing for them.

[01:02:12] I don't know what it is.

[01:02:13] That's the first time I've done a snot rocket since maybe like seventh grade.

[01:02:17] It feels like I have PBR in my sinuses.

[01:02:20] It's in your olfactory nerve.

[01:02:21] That was in response to the it's covert racism.

[01:02:25] It's covert racism.

[01:02:26] It's like I'm just imagining the black ops characters.

[01:02:32] All of them are putting black face on except the black guy who's putting on white face.

[01:02:39] All right.

[01:02:40] So hold on.

[01:02:41] This makes me wonder if like we were secretly covert racism or discriminatory because like when we played Overcooked, I was the raccoon in a wheelchair.

[01:02:48] And I'm not in a wheelchair in real life.

[01:02:51] You are not Woods.

[01:02:52] All right.

[01:02:53] Yeah.

[01:02:54] I'm not Woods from whatever game we talked about.

[01:02:57] Damn it.

[01:02:58] I just realized every time I play Left 4 Dead, I choose Lewis.

[01:03:01] That's ableist.

[01:03:02] Is that covert racism?

[01:03:04] Holy shit.

[01:03:06] It's like half the cast of Left 4 Dead.

[01:03:08] Damn it.

[01:03:09] That's crazy.

[01:03:09] So the originator of digital blackface was from white people using GIFs of black people doing like mannerisms, you know?

[01:03:19] Like so there are GIFs of black people and other people didn't like that.

[01:03:24] Yeah.

[01:03:24] So they were trying to cancel people who were using black people in GIFs.

[01:03:28] I didn't know that.

[01:03:29] That's interesting actually.

[01:03:30] Yeah.

[01:03:31] I guess I should stop doing that on Twitter by using reactions that have somebody that's not in my race.

[01:03:37] Is that how that works?

[01:03:38] It's all gone.

[01:03:39] People gave up that fight.

[01:03:40] That hill was a hill that they couldn't survive on, unfortunately.

[01:03:46] Racially segregated GIFs.

[01:03:50] It was like, hey, you authorized to use that GIF?

[01:03:53] Yeah.

[01:03:53] Where's your ID?

[01:03:54] Place your ID.

[01:03:55] Oh, but then it's like, which ones do get a pass though?

[01:03:57] Like, can I use Chappelle?

[01:03:58] Like, can I use Chappelle?

[01:04:00] You gotta be.

[01:04:01] You can't use Chappelle.

[01:04:02] Unless he's doing white face.

[01:04:04] Oh!

[01:04:04] And only then.

[01:04:05] And only then.

[01:04:06] He had a lot of episodes with that.

[01:04:07] You're only allowed to use Pee Wee Herman GIFs.

[01:04:10] That's it.

[01:04:18] The previous Assassin's...

[01:04:19] Not Assassin's...

[01:04:20] The previous Animal Crossing.

[01:04:21] The only way to get Dark Skin was to go to the island.

[01:04:24] Like, I don't know you guys remember that?

[01:04:26] And get a tan.

[01:04:27] Is this a new leaf?

[01:04:29] No.

[01:04:29] On the GameCube?

[01:04:30] Okay, not in the GameCube one, which was Animal Crossing.

[01:04:33] A new leaf?

[01:04:34] Animal Crossing.

[01:04:35] That was the base Animal Crossing after Animal Village, which is Animal Crossing.

[01:04:39] There's a 3DS one too, right?

[01:04:41] Yeah.

[01:04:42] Well, no, there's a DS one, I think.

[01:04:43] That was Wild World.

[01:04:45] And then...

[01:04:46] Anyways.

[01:04:46] Anyways, in Animal Crossing, Animal Crossing, the second game, you could go to an island,

[01:04:53] and the longer you hung out at the island, the darker you would get until you were, like,

[01:04:58] black.

[01:05:00] That's how it works.

[01:05:00] Sweet.

[01:05:01] Look at my arm.

[01:05:02] Let me see if I can pull up Animal Crossing tans.

[01:05:09] This is dumb, by the way.

[01:05:10] I think we are.

[01:05:11] Oh, no, I thought they were Animal Crossing trans, and now they're identifying which characters

[01:05:14] are trans.

[01:05:15] I don't think you're racist if you play a dark-skinned character in Assassin's Creed.

[01:05:19] I think you're fine.

[01:05:19] What's the top trans character, Phillip?

[01:05:23] It was like a llama.

[01:05:25] Oh, let me go back.

[01:05:26] Isn't it the gecko?

[01:05:27] The llama is transgender?

[01:05:29] The gecko.

[01:05:29] The Fortnite llama?

[01:05:31] There's a gecko in the new Animal Crossing where it's like everyone thinks it's a girl,

[01:05:36] but it's a boy, or the other way around, I can't remember.

[01:05:39] But it's the one that my picture is on Switch.

[01:05:42] Oh, yeah.

[01:05:43] I know the one you're talking about.

[01:05:44] I don't remember his name, though.

[01:05:46] It's the one that catches bugs.

[01:05:48] I know I played Animal Crossing.

[01:05:50] This is not a...

[01:05:51] Oh, okay.

[01:05:51] There's two characters.

[01:05:53] There's a peacock, and the problem is that...

[01:05:58] Another problem, but the thing is that it acts feminine, but it has the peacock tail, which

[01:06:03] are only on the peacocks, not on the peahens.

[01:06:06] Oh, yeah.

[01:06:07] It's Flick.

[01:06:07] So Flick is the character.

[01:06:09] I'm putting it in the show notes now, in the break.

[01:06:14] See that?

[01:06:15] See, I always thought Flick was just gay.

[01:06:18] He's a goth dragon.

[01:06:21] They're a goth dragon.

[01:06:22] And he hits on the guy that's a fisherman.

[01:06:25] Flick is a guy.

[01:06:26] Here's the problem.

[01:06:27] Is that the gay...

[01:06:27] So it's the pants for me.

[01:06:29] It's the kind of demeanor, but also the pants.

[01:06:31] Because the pants in the Switch, it looks like fishnets or something.

[01:06:35] The plaid.

[01:06:36] I don't know what it looks like, but...

[01:06:38] I like that they're wearing a choker, and their net has the little spikies.

[01:06:44] He's got an aesthetic.

[01:06:46] You know, he was putting that on there, and he's like, this will match.

[01:06:49] I put that as my picture, thinking that was a female.

[01:06:53] This is very cool.

[01:06:55] He's cool.

[01:06:56] Yeah.

[01:06:57] Yeah.

[01:06:57] Yeah.

[01:06:58] All right, let's move on to the next one.

[01:07:00] Number 43.

[01:07:02] What?

[01:07:03] Okay.

[01:07:03] Okay.

[01:07:03] So, am I the asshole for telling my friend his game is stupid?

[01:07:07] This is a long one, so I'm gonna speed through it, y'all.

[01:07:11] Wait, hold on.

[01:07:12] I've checked tax.

[01:07:13] We gotta look at this real quick.

[01:07:14] Yeah.

[01:07:15] Are we just making sure it's not a throwaway?

[01:07:17] I mean, I think it is a throwaway.

[01:07:19] He's got so many replies.

[01:07:20] Yeah, make sure this isn't a repeat.

[01:07:22] Like, a nostalgia critic in muck or whatever.

[01:07:26] Yeah.

[01:07:26] He did post this in multiple places, and they got removed, but he has commented all over

[01:07:31] the goddamn place for this.

[01:07:32] He's getting, yeah, he's getting commented to hell.

[01:07:35] Oh, there's no date!

[01:07:36] Or she.

[01:07:36] It's she.

[01:07:37] I am 23 female, and he's 23 male.

[01:07:40] He's my friend, and has been since elementary school.

[01:07:43] He's gay, so there's nothing romantic between us either.

[01:07:46] Our friend group is very active, but he's not anymore.

[01:07:50] Our friend group is very active, but he's not anymore, okay?

[01:07:53] I guess he's not active.

[01:07:54] He's now disabled and unable to do most activities we used to do because he can't walk long distances,

[01:08:00] and his dominant arm gives him problems.

[01:08:02] He was in an accident at his workplace.

[01:08:04] He was very depressed for the longest time and still struggles with things.

[01:08:08] It's been over a year since the accident.

[01:08:10] While he's not as depressed in general anymore, he does get sad when we go on our trips without

[01:08:15] him, and he doesn't have a good self-image anymore.

[01:08:18] He's a very handsome guy, and any man would be lucky to have him, but he thinks because

[01:08:24] he's disabled and his income is disability that he's not fit to date anyone.

[01:08:28] Anyone real, apparently.

[01:08:29] Oh, God.

[01:08:31] This is not good.

[01:08:33] What good writing.

[01:08:34] Yeah, this is actually very good grammar.

[01:08:35] Very good grammar.

[01:08:37] Around the time he started feeling less depressed, his sister got him into video games, which

[01:08:41] none of us in our friend group are into.

[01:08:43] Boss, what game?

[01:08:45] What game is it?

[01:08:47] It was never found.

[01:08:48] It's gotta be Baldur's Gate, right?

[01:08:50] That's a good...

[01:08:51] That's good.

[01:08:51] That's a good one.

[01:08:52] A lot of people are suggesting Baldur's Gate.

[01:08:54] Yeah.

[01:08:54] Uh, man.

[01:08:55] I'm thinking...

[01:08:56] So, Dragon Age Origins.

[01:08:58] I'm gonna go with that.

[01:08:59] You're gonna go with Origins?

[01:09:00] Okay.

[01:09:01] Yeah.

[01:09:01] We'll see.

[01:09:02] What was that one game with the lady with the blue hair?

[01:09:05] That story game?

[01:09:06] Oh.

[01:09:06] Oh.

[01:09:07] Life is Strange.

[01:09:07] Yeah.

[01:09:08] Life is Strange.

[01:09:09] Yeah.

[01:09:09] Life is Strange.

[01:09:10] I love the game.

[01:09:11] Great game.

[01:09:11] That's the one.

[01:09:12] He's gay, by the way.

[01:09:14] So...

[01:09:14] Exactly.

[01:09:15] He started feeling less depressed.

[01:09:17] His sister got him into video games, which none of us in our friend group are into.

[01:09:21] We like being active, not pretending to be.

[01:09:23] Wow.

[01:09:24] Holy shit.

[01:09:24] Got him!

[01:09:26] Burn!

[01:09:28] But a few months ago, he got this one popular game, and it really turned things around for

[01:09:33] him, namely the fact that you can date other characters, which is weird to me.

[01:09:38] He's grown very attached to this game and tries to talk to us about it.

[01:09:41] A couple in the group act interested, and the rest of us just don't really care.

[01:09:45] I tried to talk to him about getting out into the real world again, but he doesn't seem

[01:09:49] interested.

[01:09:50] Well, once again, he tried to talk about this game and this character he really likes, and

[01:09:53] I finally had enough.

[01:09:54] I told him no one cares about his stupid game, and he needs to find someone real and experience

[01:10:00] the real world however he can.

[01:10:03] No one else said anything, and he left to get an Uber home.

[01:10:06] One of our friends tried to offer him a ride, but he just quietly denied and left.

[01:10:10] We all went home after, and I got back to find he'd left our group chats and blocked me.

[01:10:15] I don't know if he's blocked the others as well.

[01:10:18] He left me one last message saying,

[01:10:22] That game is the only way I can feel like a normal person again.

[01:10:26] I'm not disabled.

[01:10:27] I can walk as long as I want.

[01:10:29] I can explore anything it will allow me without my body.

[01:10:33] I can explore everything it will allow me without my body hurting.

[01:10:37] Character might not be real.

[01:10:39] He says character in parents might not be real, but he looks at my character in ways I wish

[01:10:45] I could be looked at.

[01:10:46] I only get looked at with pity anymore.

[01:10:49] He doesn't see that.

[01:10:50] No one I meet in the game does.

[01:10:52] So forgive me for finding something that brings me joy.

[01:10:55] I can't replace real life.

[01:10:57] Character can't replace the love and the touch of a real person, but it's as close as I'll

[01:11:01] ever get, period.

[01:11:02] Oh man, I'm about to cry.

[01:11:04] Our friend group has mixed emotions about the whole thing, but when I ranted to my sister

[01:11:08] about it, she got indignant and told me that I messed up big.

[01:11:12] She said that I was a jerk for making him feel more isolated and for not entertaining

[01:11:16] him talking about that dumb game.

[01:11:18] I told her I just wanted him to experience real life and real people instead of focusing

[01:11:22] on that stupid game, but she hung up.

[01:11:25] Maybe I was harsh, but am I really the asshole?

[01:11:29] Holy shit.

[01:11:30] Lots to unpack here, folks.

[01:11:31] Lots to unpack here.

[01:11:32] I can see, I can definitely see where she's coming from.

[01:11:37] Yeah, for sure.

[01:11:38] Like I, I see the spirit of what she's coming from.

[01:11:41] The way that she is deploying her language though is not.

[01:11:47] It's kind of like, you know, that's not how you talk to a friend.

[01:11:50] Really?

[01:11:51] I was thinking like, uh, you know how parents will be when their kid is like, I might be gay

[01:11:55] and they send them off to a camp.

[01:11:57] Like that's kind of how I feel about this.

[01:11:59] What I'm listening to.

[01:12:01] Wait, so like, who's the parent?

[01:12:03] Is she the parent to a camp or?

[01:12:05] She's the parent.

[01:12:05] She's the parent.

[01:12:06] She wants to send them to an anti-video game camp.

[01:12:08] Yeah.

[01:12:09] She wants to, she wants to put them in.

[01:12:10] Not an anti-game.

[01:12:11] A concentration camp, I guess.

[01:12:13] No.

[01:12:16] Yeah.

[01:12:18] Yeah.

[01:12:18] I think, um, I see what she's saying where she's like, she wants him to get out in real

[01:12:23] life.

[01:12:23] And apparently this person has very serious medical issues.

[01:12:26] It is really curious.

[01:12:28] I wonder if it's like an Elder Scrolls game.

[01:12:31] It could just be a dating sim.

[01:12:33] It could be.

[01:12:34] And he's dating more to more goth.

[01:12:37] That could be.

[01:12:38] He ruined their family.

[01:12:39] That's what he's doing.

[01:12:41] This person has so many characters in the games.

[01:12:44] And, uh, that's why she's mad about it.

[01:12:47] Yeah.

[01:12:48] Oh!

[01:12:49] I think, oh, hold on.

[01:12:50] I think I found it.

[01:12:52] Hold on.

[01:12:52] I, no, what the fuck just happened?

[01:12:55] Wait, so you said there was an update on this?

[01:12:57] There's an update.

[01:12:58] I posted it in there.

[01:12:59] But this person, I, I had all their fucking comments.

[01:13:02] And then I found one that said Gale.

[01:13:04] The word Gale.

[01:13:05] I saw it as I was scrolling down.

[01:13:07] Which is Elder Scrolls game 3.

[01:13:08] It's, they're supposing that it's probably Gale he's romancing.

[01:13:12] Well.

[01:13:12] From Baldur's Gate.

[01:13:13] Yeah.

[01:13:13] Is that what they're saying?

[01:13:15] Or did she reply with that?

[01:13:16] Because I saw the word Gale coming from her.

[01:13:19] Oh.

[01:13:20] But I can't find it because I clicked on it.

[01:13:21] And then it took me fucking somewhere else.

[01:13:23] I mean, it would make sense.

[01:13:24] Wait, the way he talks about that stupid wizard or whatever you think it was.

[01:13:27] Okay, it's gotta be Gale.

[01:13:29] It's gotta be.

[01:13:30] First of all, why is this the second day in a row that I've heard about Gale?

[01:13:34] Oh, I found it.

[01:13:35] He's just making rounds.

[01:13:37] It says, I hope he doesn't.

[01:13:39] I hope he doesn't because the last thing he needs are these people trying to get him more into it.

[01:13:43] If I have to hear about Gale again, I'm going to pull my hair out.

[01:13:46] He has real friends waiting in real life to help him.

[01:13:50] Okay, but are they really handsome?

[01:13:53] Gale is not even that hot.

[01:13:55] I mean, he's like traditionally handsome.

[01:13:58] Some people really like him.

[01:14:00] He's really not.

[01:14:00] What is the one guy's name from Baldur's Gate?

[01:14:03] The, uh.

[01:14:05] Don't say Will.

[01:14:05] I'm a fucking punk.

[01:14:06] Yeah, no, Will.

[01:14:07] Will.

[01:14:08] Will.

[01:14:09] Yeah, he's fucking.

[01:14:11] He's got a bad eye.

[01:14:13] Oh.

[01:14:13] He's got a bit of a table.

[01:14:14] Shit.

[01:14:15] Have you ever seen the voice actor for Will?

[01:14:17] Holy shit.

[01:14:19] Hold on.

[01:14:19] He's very handsome.

[01:14:20] Very handsome.

[01:14:21] Oh my god.

[01:14:21] He's so handsome.

[01:14:23] He's very, very handsome.

[01:14:24] Fuck Gale.

[01:14:25] Fuck Gale.

[01:14:25] Chapter gentleman.

[01:14:26] Go seek Will.

[01:14:28] People are also very thirsty over Astarion, too.

[01:14:31] So.

[01:14:32] And I understand.

[01:14:33] Well, yesterday I had a conversation about Baldur's Gate.

[01:14:35] And it was with a man.

[01:14:37] And he didn't know who Carlock was.

[01:14:39] Because I was like, oh, she's a baddie.

[01:14:41] And he's like, I don't know who that is.

[01:14:44] And then he knew who Gale was.

[01:14:47] And I was like, why do you know who Gale is and not Carlock?

[01:14:51] Yeah.

[01:14:52] Like.

[01:14:53] When I first.

[01:14:54] Here's the thing.

[01:14:54] Hey.

[01:14:55] In all fairness.

[01:14:56] Maybe he played it.

[01:14:57] Maybe he didn't.

[01:14:58] But.

[01:14:59] Like.

[01:14:59] In my first playthrough for Baldur's Gate.

[01:15:02] I didn't find Carlock.

[01:15:04] Because I didn't look for her hard enough.

[01:15:05] I'm sorry.

[01:15:06] And then she just like wasn't there.

[01:15:07] She's just in a fucking corner somewhere.

[01:15:09] Yeah.

[01:15:09] She's in a corner.

[01:15:10] I just like know who she is.

[01:15:12] Yeah.

[01:15:12] Yeah.

[01:15:12] She's just in my mind.

[01:15:14] So I just.

[01:15:15] Well, all of those characters are iconic.

[01:15:16] They're all over Twitter.

[01:15:17] If you pay attention to the slightest of social media.

[01:15:20] She's a really good magic card.

[01:15:21] She gives you double combat.

[01:15:23] Yeah.

[01:15:23] I run it.

[01:15:24] And fucking.

[01:15:25] It doesn't matter.

[01:15:26] Gale is hot.

[01:15:27] Like.

[01:15:27] I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[01:15:29] I'm like looking at it right now.

[01:15:31] Gale is fine.

[01:15:32] I guess.

[01:15:32] He's the top three for the characters.

[01:15:34] I think people are.

[01:15:35] I'm just not super into him.

[01:15:35] I'm just not super into him.

[01:15:35] I'm just not really unattracted to Gale.

[01:15:39] That makes him better.

[01:15:41] I think that makes him better.

[01:15:42] To some people.

[01:15:43] You have a little bit of vinegar.

[01:15:44] Yeah.

[01:15:45] Certainly.

[01:15:45] You know.

[01:15:46] Anyway.

[01:15:46] So judgment.

[01:15:48] Judgment on.

[01:15:49] On this lady.

[01:15:50] I personally am saying.

[01:15:52] She.

[01:15:52] Yeah.

[01:15:52] This.

[01:15:52] She's.

[01:15:53] She's.

[01:15:53] She sucks.

[01:15:54] She's a hundred percent asshole.

[01:15:55] Like.

[01:15:56] Yeah.

[01:15:56] Like.

[01:15:56] I would never be in a friend group with some.

[01:15:58] Not only a person who speaks to me like this.

[01:16:02] But other people who would allow this individual to speak to me like it.

[01:16:05] And then not be like.

[01:16:06] Hey.

[01:16:07] That wasn't cool.

[01:16:08] You need to make it right.

[01:16:09] And then try to like repair the situation.

[01:16:11] Maybe they are doing that in the background.

[01:16:12] Maybe they're not.

[01:16:15] I think that this has probably gone on.

[01:16:18] For.

[01:16:19] Because he says.

[01:16:19] He was very depressed for the longest time.

[01:16:21] Still struggles with it.

[01:16:22] I think this is something that has been brewing for a very long time.

[01:16:25] And this is just the breaking point.

[01:16:26] That she's reporting on.

[01:16:28] You know.

[01:16:28] I don't think it's been constantly for years.

[01:16:30] This.

[01:16:31] Like her being at a ten.

[01:16:32] For him.

[01:16:33] I think this is her going.

[01:16:34] I've had enough.

[01:16:35] I need to.

[01:16:36] I haven't been breaking through.

[01:16:38] With normal conversation.

[01:16:40] And pussyfooting around the problem.

[01:16:41] I need to be direct with you.

[01:16:43] And then he just didn't take it very well.

[01:16:45] That's not her job though.

[01:16:47] She also mentions.

[01:16:48] It's been over a year since the accident.

[01:16:51] So over a year.

[01:16:52] Also implies less than two years.

[01:16:54] So this man.

[01:16:56] Has been disabled for less than two years of his life.

[01:17:00] Uh.

[01:17:01] So he is still trying to figure that out.

[01:17:03] That's really difficult.

[01:17:05] To go from being like.

[01:17:06] An able-bodied person.

[01:17:07] To having an accident.

[01:17:08] Where you're just suddenly like.

[01:17:10] Disabled.

[01:17:10] I'm guessing.

[01:17:11] Like.

[01:17:12] That.

[01:17:13] That's a very big thing to go through.

[01:17:15] And to have someone just be like.

[01:17:16] Aw.

[01:17:17] Fuck you.

[01:17:18] Like.

[01:17:18] What if we swap out video games for.

[01:17:20] A cult.

[01:17:21] Like.

[01:17:22] What if.

[01:17:23] Like.

[01:17:23] A cult is much worse than a video game.

[01:17:25] Well this is what I'm saying though.

[01:17:26] Is that she doesn't understand.

[01:17:28] Like video games don't.

[01:17:29] What she is perceiving.

[01:17:30] I think.

[01:17:31] Is that.

[01:17:32] He is slipping into isolation.

[01:17:34] Like he is.

[01:17:35] Like cutting everyone off.

[01:17:36] He is like.

[01:17:37] Only focusing on this one thing.

[01:17:38] And that thing is like.

[01:17:39] Pulling him away from everyone.

[01:17:41] That is trying to help him.

[01:17:42] Yeah.

[01:17:42] And.

[01:17:43] I don't think she's going about it like.

[01:17:45] In the best.

[01:17:45] And most productive of ways.

[01:17:47] But what I'm saying.

[01:17:48] Like what I said before.

[01:17:49] Kind of.

[01:17:49] Is where my mentality is.

[01:17:51] Is that she's probably at this breaking point.

[01:17:53] She is the most confrontational.

[01:17:55] Of their friend group.

[01:17:56] So she.

[01:17:57] Definitely.

[01:17:57] Was the first one.

[01:17:59] In the door.

[01:17:59] To try and get him away from this thing.

[01:18:02] That she perceives as like.

[01:18:04] This thing that.

[01:18:05] Because.

[01:18:06] I mean.

[01:18:07] It might come as a surprise to the listeners.

[01:18:10] But I believe that you can.

[01:18:11] Get addicted to video games.

[01:18:13] And I think that video games.

[01:18:14] For specific personalities.

[01:18:15] Are not a good thing.

[01:18:16] It can be just as bad as cigarettes.

[01:18:18] Or gambling.

[01:18:19] Or whatever.

[01:18:19] And I think that if you have that type of personality.

[01:18:21] And your friends.

[01:18:23] Are just watching you spiral.

[01:18:25] Into oblivion with it.

[01:18:27] Then.

[01:18:27] I think that if they are your friends.

[01:18:29] And they love you.

[01:18:30] You have a little bit of a responsibility.

[01:18:33] To try and help them.

[01:18:35] Yeah.

[01:18:35] No.

[01:18:36] Like that's.

[01:18:36] That's not.

[01:18:37] That's not something that friends say.

[01:18:39] And also.

[01:18:40] I would like to.

[01:18:41] Tie in.

[01:18:42] Put your friends in a lower class.

[01:18:44] Than your normal friends.

[01:18:45] Whenever they get disabled.

[01:18:46] I think.

[01:18:46] I think that might be a bad.

[01:18:48] Turn of phrase.

[01:18:50] I think that that's.

[01:18:51] Outside.

[01:18:53] Well she's.

[01:18:54] But if she's vocalized.

[01:18:55] If she's writing that down.

[01:18:56] She's definitely thinking it.

[01:18:57] And if she's thinking it.

[01:18:58] She's probably expressed that.

[01:19:00] In one way or another.

[01:19:01] To him.

[01:19:02] But I would also like to draw back.

[01:19:03] To the very beginning of this post.

[01:19:05] Both of them.

[01:19:06] Are early 20 year olds.

[01:19:07] And I would be willing.

[01:19:08] To put money down.

[01:19:09] That both of them.

[01:19:10] Are equally insufferable.

[01:19:12] And I know.

[01:19:13] Disabled.

[01:19:14] Disabled people.

[01:19:15] Yes.

[01:19:15] They have it.

[01:19:16] Really hard.

[01:19:17] But I remember what it was like.

[01:19:19] When I was in my 20s.

[01:19:19] And I was a fucking.

[01:19:21] I was an idiot.

[01:19:22] Right.

[01:19:22] You're right.

[01:19:22] We are all coming at this.

[01:19:24] From 30 year old perspective.

[01:19:26] Yeah.

[01:19:26] Like if these were two 30 year olds.

[01:19:28] I'm seeing serious problems.

[01:19:29] And I'm like.

[01:19:30] Get away from that person.

[01:19:31] As much as I can.

[01:19:32] But I imagine that this girl.

[01:19:34] And the rest of their friends.

[01:19:35] Are all early 20 somethings.

[01:19:37] They're all either in college.

[01:19:38] Or they just fucking dropped out of college.

[01:19:40] And they're just doing coke.

[01:19:41] And drinking beers.

[01:19:42] On the weekends.

[01:19:42] Right.

[01:19:43] Whatever the case may be.

[01:19:44] But I.

[01:19:44] My whole thing is.

[01:19:46] That.

[01:19:47] Like.

[01:19:48] She's approaching this whole conversation.

[01:19:50] She's approaching this whole.

[01:19:52] Relationship issue.

[01:19:53] From a very like.

[01:19:54] Boomer mindset.

[01:19:55] Kind of like what you were talking about.

[01:19:56] Nave.

[01:19:56] How people.

[01:19:57] Think about it.

[01:19:57] Oh.

[01:19:58] All the video games.

[01:19:58] Are going to rot your brain out.

[01:19:59] They're completely altering your personality.

[01:20:01] Yeah.

[01:20:02] He's playing Baldur's Gate fucking three.

[01:20:04] I'm sure it's altering his personality.

[01:20:06] He's probably.

[01:20:07] It's the best game ever.

[01:20:07] A hundred.

[01:20:08] He's probably put a hundred and thirty hours into it.

[01:20:10] Over the course of two weeks.

[01:20:12] And that's why he can't stop fucking saying.

[01:20:14] Anything else about it.

[01:20:15] To his friend group.

[01:20:16] And then she wants to act like an asshole.

[01:20:17] It's like skipping all the gateway drugs.

[01:20:20] You skipped cigarettes.

[01:20:20] You skipped weed.

[01:20:21] You went straight to methamphetamine.

[01:20:23] Straight to methamphetamines.

[01:20:25] And the thing is.

[01:20:26] Is that like.

[01:20:26] If what she says is true.

[01:20:28] And the rest of the friend group.

[01:20:30] Actually doesn't play games.

[01:20:32] Then yeah.

[01:20:33] Ranting about Baldur's Gate three at the function.

[01:20:35] Probably isn't going to be.

[01:20:37] It's not going to hit with everybody.

[01:20:39] But at the same time.

[01:20:41] I mean like.

[01:20:41] If he's your friend.

[01:20:42] He's your friend.

[01:20:43] You gotta.

[01:20:43] You gotta just.

[01:20:44] You gotta read the room man.

[01:20:46] So.

[01:20:46] Is it better for him to be the guy at the party.

[01:20:48] Standing in the corner.

[01:20:49] I do.

[01:20:50] Nobody knows.

[01:20:51] I romanced Gale.

[01:20:55] Nobody knows that I'm Gale's best partner.

[01:20:58] I love it.

[01:20:59] I love it.

[01:21:01] Oh my god.

[01:21:02] I feel the same way about Shadowheart.

[01:21:04] I definitely.

[01:21:05] I definitely got objection.

[01:21:06] I got.

[01:21:07] I am Edgeworth.

[01:21:09] And Nikolai is.

[01:21:11] Ace Attorney.

[01:21:13] I forget his name.

[01:21:14] Phoenix Wright.

[01:21:15] Phoenix Wright.

[01:21:15] The other one.

[01:21:17] Yeah.

[01:21:18] Uh.

[01:21:18] So I'm over here going.

[01:21:20] Punching the fucking desk and shit.

[01:21:21] Do we want to read the update?

[01:21:22] I assume everyone.

[01:21:23] It's an asshole.

[01:21:24] I kind of.

[01:21:24] Yeah.

[01:21:25] She's an asshole too.

[01:21:26] But.

[01:21:26] I was trying to help.

[01:21:28] I just want to point out one comment real fast.

[01:21:30] It says.

[01:21:31] This has to be rage bait.

[01:21:33] If by some random chance.

[01:21:34] This is actually real.

[01:21:36] Yeah.

[01:21:36] You are indeed the biggest of assholes.

[01:21:39] This probably belongs on R.

[01:21:41] Am I the devil?

[01:21:43] You are not this person's friend.

[01:21:45] If you are willing to say something like this.

[01:21:48] Seriously.

[01:21:49] Seriously.

[01:21:50] No.

[01:21:50] But like.

[01:21:50] It was so well written.

[01:21:52] I almost.

[01:21:53] Quit.

[01:21:54] Like the.

[01:21:54] The.

[01:21:55] The.

[01:21:56] The way that she described the dialogue in the scene.

[01:21:58] Was so kind of like.

[01:22:00] That's why yeah.

[01:22:00] It's very well put together.

[01:22:02] It's very well curated.

[01:22:03] So it's like.

[01:22:04] For heart abuse.

[01:22:05] What are you.

[01:22:05] Just because there wasn't 37 commas.

[01:22:07] Doesn't mean this person is good.

[01:22:11] I think.

[01:22:12] I'm going to be honest dude.

[01:22:13] I think that this could be solved.

[01:22:15] If like.

[01:22:15] They just had a heart to heart talk.

[01:22:18] Yeah.

[01:22:18] Every am I the asshole could be solved.

[01:22:20] No.

[01:22:20] If they had a heart to heart talk.

[01:22:22] Sometimes.

[01:22:23] No.

[01:22:23] I think this one.

[01:22:24] Everyone is so.

[01:22:25] Everyone is burning her at the fucking stake.

[01:22:27] I think that.

[01:22:28] She got emotional.

[01:22:30] Because.

[01:22:30] We.

[01:22:31] Like I said.

[01:22:32] Like if this was to a stranger.

[01:22:33] It would be a lot worse.

[01:22:34] But this is somebody that she cares about.

[01:22:36] This is coming from a place.

[01:22:37] The reason why she's so emotional.

[01:22:39] Is because she cares about the person I assume.

[01:22:40] And so it's like.

[01:22:42] This is coming from a place of care.

[01:22:44] Like she.

[01:22:44] Doesn't want him.

[01:22:46] To.

[01:22:46] Be.

[01:22:47] Self-destructive.

[01:22:48] And.

[01:22:49] And.

[01:22:49] And from her perspective.

[01:22:50] It looks like she's self-destructive.

[01:22:51] And her telling her that.

[01:22:53] Her telling him.

[01:22:53] That no one cares about their game.

[01:22:55] And whatever.

[01:22:55] It's like.

[01:22:56] This has probably been boiling over for months.

[01:22:58] I think.

[01:22:59] And then.

[01:23:00] It's like.

[01:23:02] This is probably a conversation that had to happen.

[01:23:04] And this is just one of the worst ways that it could have happened.

[01:23:07] But I don't think that she's the devil.

[01:23:08] I genuinely don't.

[01:23:09] I think that.

[01:23:10] Unless she is like tripling and quadrupling down.

[01:23:13] I don't think that she's the devil.

[01:23:14] And we have an update.

[01:23:16] So we.

[01:23:16] We can.

[01:23:16] We can.

[01:23:25] I don't really know how that works.

[01:23:26] So here it is for anyone who might see or care.

[01:23:28] I'll start this off by saying.

[01:23:30] To everyone who is rooting for.

[01:23:31] Quote unquote.

[01:23:31] My sister in the comments.

[01:23:33] That was not her.

[01:23:34] What?

[01:23:35] I.

[01:23:36] I don't know.

[01:23:37] What they thought that would accomplish.

[01:23:39] But it wasn't until after that comment.

[01:23:41] That I even called my sister.

[01:23:43] Actually called my sister.

[01:23:44] She had a laugh over it.

[01:23:46] Before she berated me for the post.

[01:23:48] Pause.

[01:23:48] This happens sometimes.

[01:23:50] Where people will fake being one of the people involved in the posts.

[01:23:54] In these.

[01:23:54] This is pretty rare.

[01:23:56] But like sometimes it does.

[01:23:57] Weird.

[01:23:58] But for the actual update.

[01:24:00] No.

[01:24:00] My friend has not unblocked me.

[01:24:02] Good.

[01:24:02] And a couple of others in our group aren't speaking with me anymore.

[01:24:06] Also.

[01:24:07] Probably good.

[01:24:08] My stance on games hasn't changed.

[01:24:11] And it won't.

[01:24:11] I still find them ridiculous and pointless.

[01:24:14] And I still think that what my friend is doing.

[01:24:17] With that whole.

[01:24:18] I don't think they're a good person.

[01:24:19] Dating a character in a game thing is weird.

[01:24:22] Double down.

[01:24:22] I think anyone who does that needs help.

[01:24:25] Anybody who dates a character in a game.

[01:24:27] They need help.

[01:24:28] They need help.

[01:24:30] One guy.

[01:24:31] One guy messaged me.

[01:24:33] His email.

[01:24:34] The one guy who messaged me his email.

[01:24:37] My sister talked to me.

[01:24:38] Into forwarding it.

[01:24:40] To one of the friends.

[01:24:41] Who isn't talking to me.

[01:24:43] But hasn't.

[01:24:44] Hasn't blocked me.

[01:24:45] And told them to pass it to him.

[01:24:46] I don't know if they did.

[01:24:48] And I don't know if those two ever got in contact.

[01:24:50] I tried to ask.

[01:24:51] But no one would give me a solid answer.

[01:24:53] The friends who aren't speaking to me now.

[01:24:54] Apparently had been looking for a reason.

[01:24:56] Not to speak with me for a while.

[01:24:57] Big fucking surprise.

[01:24:59] Big fucking surprise.

[01:25:01] And that's all I know with that situation.

[01:25:03] And the ones who still are.

[01:25:06] Have been adamant about not wanting to pick sides.

[01:25:09] So that's it.

[01:25:10] I most likely won't log back in after this.

[01:25:13] I only got back in to post this.

[01:25:14] Because my sister said she wanted me to reflect a little bit more.

[01:25:17] And said it might help.

[01:25:18] Since I was keen to air my dirty laundry anyway.

[01:25:25] Your honor.

[01:25:27] I request that all that be stricken from the record.

[01:25:31] So.

[01:25:32] It doesn't help.

[01:25:33] This paragraph.

[01:25:34] The middle paragraph.

[01:25:34] My stance on games hasn't changed.

[01:25:37] And it won't.

[01:25:37] I find them ridiculous and pointless.

[01:25:40] And I still think what my friend is doing with the whole dating a character thing is weird.

[01:25:44] Come on man.

[01:25:45] Come on man.

[01:25:46] We gotta touch some grass here.

[01:25:49] I don't know.

[01:25:49] There's more pointless things.

[01:25:51] Like have you ever gone to the top golf or whatever?

[01:25:54] Like the batting cages but for golf?

[01:25:56] Yeah.

[01:25:56] That would be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen.

[01:25:59] Hold on.

[01:25:59] Hold on.

[01:26:00] Pause.

[01:26:00] Pause.

[01:26:01] I really like golf.

[01:26:02] Top golf sounds like a fun ass time.

[01:26:04] You get to get trashed while just shooting golf.

[01:26:08] Like shooting pile drivers.

[01:26:10] Honestly sounds so great.

[01:26:10] Getting fucking trashed and eating nachos.

[01:26:14] And hitting golf balls.

[01:26:15] That sounds like an amazing time film.

[01:26:17] That sounds nice.

[01:26:18] I have a lot of respect for actual golf.

[01:26:19] There's more to golf than driving.

[01:26:21] Yes.

[01:26:21] There is more.

[01:26:22] Sounds really good though.

[01:26:24] On the comments of this.

[01:26:25] Like a lot of fun.

[01:26:26] I saw this giant fucking novel that somebody wrote in the comments.

[01:26:30] And I was scrolling it.

[01:26:32] Just kind of eyeballing it.

[01:26:33] And one paragraph caught my eye.

[01:26:37] And it says.

[01:26:38] It says.

[01:26:39] I will tell you of myself.

[01:26:41] I grew up with an alcoholic father.

[01:26:43] And a verbally abusive mother.

[01:26:44] I have had every eating disorder.

[01:26:47] When I was 20.

[01:26:48] I had been one.

[01:26:49] Okay.

[01:26:49] Yada yada yada.

[01:26:50] A lot of bad things have happened.

[01:26:52] Then.

[01:26:52] I played Dragon Age Origins.

[01:26:54] No!

[01:26:55] No!

[01:26:56] No!

[01:26:57] No!

[01:26:57] No!

[01:26:57] No!

[01:26:58] It was a joke.

[01:26:59] We got him ladies and gentlemen.

[01:27:02] I'm telling you man.

[01:27:03] Origins gets people dude.

[01:27:04] Origins gets people.

[01:27:06] My best friend's favorite game ever.

[01:27:09] Dude.

[01:27:10] By the way.

[01:27:11] Female.

[01:27:12] Female.

[01:27:12] Ray Warden.

[01:27:13] Romancing Alistair.

[01:27:14] Peak.

[01:27:15] Peak!

[01:27:16] It's peak.

[01:27:17] It's so good.

[01:27:19] I guess I'm going to play.

[01:27:20] You were playing as a woman?

[01:27:21] Oh no!

[01:27:23] Oh no!

[01:27:24] Reddit.

[01:27:25] Get this man.

[01:27:26] Arrest this man right now.

[01:27:28] Ladies and gentlemen.

[01:27:29] We got him again.

[01:27:30] He's in full on woman face.

[01:27:31] So have we all agreed that this woman is a flaming infested asshole?

[01:27:36] Yeah.

[01:27:36] She's bad.

[01:27:37] She's kind of suck.

[01:27:37] No further.

[01:27:38] No further witnesses.

[01:27:39] Your honor.

[01:27:40] No further.

[01:27:41] No further comments.

[01:27:41] Your honor.

[01:27:42] Okay.

[01:27:43] And for the sake of time those two will be the last.

[01:27:46] Let's take a quick break and then we can hit the meat.

[01:27:48] Music plays.

[01:27:49] The last ones we ever do.

[01:27:50] I'll be right back.

[01:27:54] Alright.

[01:27:54] For the spread we are currently over time by 12 minutes.

[01:28:02] But we can save some time.

[01:28:04] You said we were going for 37 right?

[01:28:07] Yeah.

[01:28:07] An hour 37.

[01:28:08] An hour 37?

[01:28:08] Okay.

[01:28:09] I believe you.

[01:28:10] That's very desperate.

[01:28:11] I believe that you believe that.

[01:28:13] That is the thing that I've started to say when I want to be derogatory to somebody.

[01:28:18] Dude.

[01:28:19] And it makes people mad.

[01:28:21] Wait.

[01:28:21] To say what?

[01:28:22] To agree with them?

[01:28:22] I believe that you believe that.

[01:28:25] Oh my god.

[01:28:26] That's so stupid.

[01:28:27] I'm sorry you feel that way.

[01:28:29] It is a dagger dude.

[01:28:31] It is fucking stabbing a dagger into their fucking side.

[01:28:34] Because it makes them feel so stupid.

[01:28:36] Oh man.

[01:28:37] Does your bedroom door not close completely?

[01:28:40] No.

[01:28:42] The fucking house has shifted in a way that.

[01:28:44] The tornadoes.

[01:28:46] Yeah.

[01:28:46] They've ruined the molding on the walls.

[01:28:48] It's terrible.

[01:28:49] We're not saving.

[01:28:49] There's cracks everywhere.

[01:28:50] We're not saving any time on this game by the way.

[01:28:53] I think we're going to end up talking about this game for a good minute.

[01:28:56] People are getting their money.

[01:28:58] Nave.

[01:28:58] Nave.

[01:28:59] I just want to ask.

[01:29:01] I am literally at the second.

[01:29:03] I'm in halfway through I think the second to last mission.

[01:29:08] So I don't know if there's any like major narrative reveals.

[01:29:11] I've gotten like I know who the big bad is at this point.

[01:29:15] But I just don't know if there are any like crazy wilder reveals.

[01:29:18] Are you talking about Black Ops?

[01:29:19] Yeah.

[01:29:20] I'm going to be honest.

[01:29:20] I don't really know what the narrative is of this game.

[01:29:23] I just want everyone to know that Phil said we had one hour and three hours.

[01:29:27] 37 minutes.

[01:29:29] We have seven minutes and two seconds to talk about the game.

[01:29:33] We've discussed the time issues.

[01:29:34] That's good.

[01:29:35] Time dilation.

[01:29:36] Time roulette.

[01:29:37] Phillip's running on Alaskan time.

[01:29:39] So he's running a little behind.

[01:29:40] So it's okay.

[01:29:42] Yeah.

[01:29:42] And we're back.

[01:29:43] Call of Duty Black Ops 6 is signature Black Ops across a cinematic single player campaign.

[01:29:50] A best in class multiplayer experience.

[01:29:52] And with the epic return of round based zombies.

[01:29:56] We know we fucked up last time guys.

[01:29:58] We're sorry.

[01:30:00] That is actually so that.

[01:30:02] All reviews mixed.

[01:30:05] Released October 24th, 2024.

[01:30:07] Developed.

[01:30:08] Treyarch.

[01:30:09] Raven Studio.

[01:30:09] Bioware.

[01:30:10] Ben Tevito.

[01:30:11] Or whatever.

[01:30:12] It's been inox.

[01:30:14] There's like 20 studios published by Activision.

[01:30:17] Yeah.

[01:30:18] This game has a really high critic score on Metascore.

[01:30:23] 83.

[01:30:24] And a little bit mixed to average 7 for users.

[01:30:28] All right.

[01:30:29] I already.

[01:30:30] I revealed the thing about this.

[01:30:34] But people are mostly complaining about how the game runs on PC.

[01:30:37] And the file size.

[01:30:38] And there's like packet loss problems on PC.

[01:30:41] So I think especially the mixed reviews on Steam.

[01:30:44] That's what most of the reviews are about.

[01:30:46] Are how people are dying to console players constantly.

[01:30:50] Because of either aim assist or packet loss.

[01:30:52] Or all kinds of issues.

[01:30:52] Of course.

[01:30:53] These PC players always be complaining about aim assist.

[01:30:56] Oh my god.

[01:30:57] I cannot.

[01:30:57] Console players rise up.

[01:31:00] Rise against the hierarchy.

[01:31:01] Shut the fuck up about your aim assist bullshit.

[01:31:03] You have a mouse and keyboard.

[01:31:05] Fuck off.

[01:31:06] The hierarchy of power has shifted.

[01:31:08] And now the console players are having their time in the sun.

[01:31:12] Yeah.

[01:31:12] All right.

[01:31:13] A quick history preconception roundtable.

[01:31:16] I've never played a Black Ops before this one.

[01:31:19] I thought they were just like all the other Call of Duties.

[01:31:21] But this Black Ops is very different.

[01:31:24] Than the Call of Duties of my childhood.

[01:31:26] You nailed it.

[01:31:27] I also haven't played anything.

[01:31:30] She's never played Call of Duty period probably.

[01:31:32] I've played Zombies whenever I was like 14 or 15 years old with my cousin one time.

[01:31:37] Which is probably Black Ops.

[01:31:39] Because Zombies used to be exclusively a Treyarch thing.

[01:31:43] It's a world of war.

[01:31:44] I think it was 2010 when I was 14.

[01:31:47] I think.

[01:31:48] What Call of Duty?

[01:31:49] No.

[01:31:50] Oh God.

[01:31:50] I don't research that.

[01:31:52] Sorry.

[01:31:53] I have no idea what Call of Duty was.

[01:31:55] It was 2014?

[01:31:57] How old was I?

[01:31:59] There was a Zombies mode in Advanced Warfare.

[01:32:01] But it was not very good.

[01:32:03] I have played Zombies before this game.

[01:32:06] I have played Zombies.

[01:32:06] So I would imagine that's probably haven't been playing on the tenet of a Black Ops.

[01:32:11] But I've never played a Black Ops campaign before.

[01:32:13] I have played the original Modern Warfare 1 through 3.

[01:32:18] I played the original Call of Duty The Big Red 1 on the PlayStation 2.

[01:32:24] That game fucking rocks.

[01:32:25] Love that game.

[01:32:27] Most of the World War 2 games are literally just the same storyline.

[01:32:32] It's just World War 2.

[01:32:33] You're either in Germany or you're in Japan.

[01:32:36] It is what it is.

[01:32:37] But I didn't play...

[01:32:40] I want to say Veilguard because recency bias.

[01:32:43] But there was the Vanguard.

[01:32:45] They had Call of Duty The Vanguard.

[01:32:46] Which I think was not well received critically.

[01:32:49] And then my co-host Will.

[01:32:51] He actually played Call of Duty Cold War.

[01:32:54] And actually said that he enjoyed that.

[01:32:55] But I've also heard really bad things about Cold War.

[01:32:58] So a lot of mixed stuff leading up to this.

[01:33:00] But I will say that this game is pretty fucking cool.

[01:33:03] I guess I'm the only person that has played Call of Duty campaigns.

[01:33:08] But I've played every Call of Duty up to Ghosts, I think.

[01:33:13] And then I skipped a couple.

[01:33:15] And I would play occasionally.

[01:33:17] I would do the campaign.

[01:33:18] And I played the one with...

[01:33:20] What is not Kevin Costner?

[01:33:22] Who's the guy that sexually assaulted somebody?

[01:33:26] Kevin Spacey.

[01:33:27] Was that Infinite Warfare?

[01:33:29] I played the campaign for that one too.

[01:33:31] I enjoyed that.

[01:33:32] The only Modern Warfare campaigns...

[01:33:34] I've played all of the Modern Warfare campaigns.

[01:33:36] The only Modern Warfare...

[01:33:38] I just haven't played the rebooted ones.

[01:33:41] The only game you've played is the one with the guy who's sexually assaulted.

[01:33:45] He's a good actor, dude.

[01:33:47] I'm sorry.

[01:33:48] I'm sorry.

[01:33:49] Michael Jackson makes good music.

[01:33:51] Kevin Spacey acts good.

[01:33:52] You were like...

[01:33:52] You were like...

[01:33:53] The only one I've played...

[01:33:55] And you were trying to find an actor.

[01:33:56] And my brain was like...

[01:33:57] Jason Statham.

[01:33:58] I love him.

[01:33:59] And then you were like...

[01:33:59] Kevin Spacey.

[01:34:00] A piece of shit.

[01:34:01] And I was like...

[01:34:02] No.

[01:34:03] That's not Jason Statham.

[01:34:06] Isn't a Jason Statham fucking Call of Duty somehow?

[01:34:08] If Jason Statham were in this game, I would like it.

[01:34:13] I doubt it.

[01:34:14] No.

[01:34:15] I would 100% like it.

[01:34:18] I like anything he's in.

[01:34:20] Spoiler alert.

[01:34:20] Spoiler alert for how she feels about this game.

[01:34:22] But I've played...

[01:34:23] I don't like it.

[01:34:23] I've played...

[01:34:24] I would say the majority of Call of Duty campaigns, even though for the most part in Modernity

[01:34:28] I have fucking fallen off.

[01:34:29] I've played Cold War, which was an amazing game.

[01:34:31] And it's literally the prequels of this game.

[01:34:34] Really?

[01:34:34] And it is the predecessor.

[01:34:36] If you play it and then play this one, it's like, oh, okay.

[01:34:40] I understand now.

[01:34:41] I didn't beat the game.

[01:34:42] Because honestly, it really was kind of like, for the most part, mostly Call of Duty.

[01:34:47] We'll talk about this later.

[01:34:48] But that'll make sense later.

[01:34:51] At the very beginning, though, I really want to stress to people that this Call of Duty

[01:34:56] campaign is worth playing blind.

[01:34:58] And if you're listening to this for some reason and you haven't played the campaign of this,

[01:35:02] it's on Game Pass.

[01:35:03] I think a lot of our listeners...

[01:35:04] I think probably over half of our listeners are on Xbox.

[01:35:06] Please just play this campaign and then come back to it.

[01:35:09] We're also going to layer it so that we talk about zombies and multiplayer before and then

[01:35:13] we start talking about the campaign.

[01:35:14] I really just want to stress to people that I don't want to spoil this shit for you.

[01:35:18] And I'm going to spoil the shit out of this campaign.

[01:35:20] So this is really the time to...

[01:35:22] If you want to hear about the zombies and multiplayer, you can do that.

[01:35:24] And then later on, I'll flag you again.

[01:35:27] But there it is.

[01:35:29] Yeah.

[01:35:30] So we got a whole bunch of Steam reviews listed up here.

[01:35:33] Let's roll through them real quick.

[01:35:35] And if anything, if I have some big comments that agree or disagree, we can go into it.

[01:35:41] From BlankName, recommend.

[01:35:43] The zombies mode has only two maps and they still fell longer than the whole Modern Warfare 3 campaign.

[01:35:49] Okay, we're going to get a lot of comparisons to the Modern Warfare 3 campaign that we reviewed

[01:35:54] like three months ago or something like that.

[01:35:57] People hate that game, right?

[01:35:58] It was so bad.

[01:36:00] People despise that game.

[01:36:01] Okay.

[01:36:02] All right.

[01:36:02] I'm just making sure that I understand correctly.

[01:36:04] Cool.

[01:36:04] We went into detail mission by mission, tearing down each section about how it could have

[01:36:09] been better and what they did wrong on this very podcast for two and a half hours.

[01:36:14] Go check it out, listener.

[01:36:15] I need to go back and listen.

[01:36:17] Keith from...

[01:36:18] I was so angry.

[01:36:20] So I never played it, but I've sold video games in my life and I know that people didn't

[01:36:27] like it.

[01:36:29] So...

[01:36:29] Yeah.

[01:36:29] I don't know.

[01:36:30] Call of Duty.

[01:36:31] Call of Duty.

[01:36:32] Good old God.

[01:36:34] This next review is incredible.

[01:36:37] Rachel Reed.

[01:36:38] Or actually, Nick, you read it.

[01:36:39] I can say it over.

[01:36:40] Omni Movement is going to have me doing Palpatine barrel rolls for kills, which is great.

[01:36:46] Do you guys remember that part of Revenge of the Sith?

[01:36:48] Where he...

[01:36:50] It's like Kit Fisto and Sam Jackson confront him.

[01:36:55] And he's like...

[01:36:58] Because of course he did.

[01:37:00] Nihilates them.

[01:37:01] I love it.

[01:37:01] I was talking to my daughter earlier and she's like talking about Frozen.

[01:37:04] She's like, oh, when I was little, I knew that whole script of that movie.

[01:37:08] I could say word for word to you.

[01:37:10] And I'm like, oh, I was the same way with Star Wars Episode 3.

[01:37:13] It's cheesy.

[01:37:15] Oh my God.

[01:37:16] Honestly, I relate to your kid.

[01:37:17] I probably know the whole script of Frozen.

[01:37:20] It's a great movie.

[01:37:21] I remember...

[01:37:22] Let's go back to Star Wars real quick.

[01:37:25] It said Knave never.

[01:37:27] I mean, we're still in Disneyland.

[01:37:28] I remember the first time...

[01:37:29] We are still in Disneyland with Star Wars.

[01:37:31] But I remember the first time I saw Star Wars Episode 3.

[01:37:33] I was with Steven.

[01:37:34] And I smoked probably the most weed up to that point at one time ever.

[01:37:40] And then Steven was like, look at this part.

[01:37:43] He was grabbing me by my shirt and he was like, watch this part.

[01:37:45] And it was the part where he's like, I believed in you, Anakin.

[01:37:48] You are the chosen one.

[01:37:50] And we started sobbing and holding each other.

[01:37:53] It was the fucking gayest thing.

[01:37:54] At Obi-Wan's final speech.

[01:37:56] It's so funny.

[01:37:58] Every time I think about it.

[01:37:59] Every time I think about Star Wars, I think about that.

[01:38:01] And that's why I hate Star Wars so much.

[01:38:04] That's why you hate it so much?

[01:38:06] I'm just joking.

[01:38:07] It's such a stupid...

[01:38:09] It's such a stupid...

[01:38:10] Don't watch Star Wars High.

[01:38:12] Listen.

[01:38:13] Yeah, it's not worth it.

[01:38:14] It's not worth it.

[01:38:15] Don't watch Star Wars.

[01:38:16] Honestly.

[01:38:17] It's not fucking worth it.

[01:38:19] Who gives a shit?

[01:38:20] I love Star Wars.

[01:38:22] I'm sorry.

[01:38:23] I'm so sorry.

[01:38:24] It's one of my favorite IPs.

[01:38:25] No offense to you.

[01:38:27] No, I know.

[01:38:27] It's fine.

[01:38:28] But I don't give a fuck about it.

[01:38:31] All right.

[01:38:32] I'll read Lazarus.

[01:38:34] Does not recommend.

[01:38:35] This is a string of not recommends.

[01:38:36] Rare.

[01:38:38] Campaign is good.

[01:38:39] Like, really good.

[01:38:40] Nine out of ten good.

[01:38:41] But the multiplayer might as well be rubbing a cheese grater on your ball sack.

[01:38:45] This is an extension of people complaining about packet loss and aim assistance.

[01:38:49] So, again, everyone's upset about the multiplayer over on Steam.

[01:38:53] And this next one is a twofer.

[01:38:55] Rachel, if you want to read this.

[01:38:56] These are right next to each other.

[01:38:58] That's why.

[01:38:59] Oh, you want me to read both of them?

[01:39:00] I was waiting for this.

[01:39:02] I was waiting for this.

[01:39:03] So, main fighter says, not recommended.

[01:39:06] Added women.

[01:39:09] Honestly.

[01:39:10] And then.

[01:39:12] Whiplers.

[01:39:13] Whiplers.

[01:39:14] Said, not enough Asian Asian sexual representation.

[01:39:20] All right.

[01:39:20] Which one?

[01:39:20] So, back to the Dragon Age game.

[01:39:25] I was playing.

[01:39:26] I was playing the beginning of this game.

[01:39:27] I was playing the beginning of this game.

[01:39:29] And it was about the time that the third, like, female character came on.

[01:39:34] I was like, oh, no.

[01:39:36] Oh, no.

[01:39:37] The characters are coming.

[01:39:39] No, I did.

[01:39:40] I was watching him play the game.

[01:39:43] And he was like, oh, I'm a woman now.

[01:39:45] And I was like, woke.

[01:39:47] Woke video game.

[01:39:49] And then I saw the dude in the wheelchair.

[01:39:51] And I was like, no.

[01:39:54] It's the end of the.

[01:39:56] This is the wokest game I've ever seen.

[01:40:00] Oh, my God.

[01:40:00] It looks like that.

[01:40:02] It's a bad look.

[01:40:03] It looks woke.

[01:40:04] That was the first two things.

[01:40:07] That was, like, the first two thoughts I had about it.

[01:40:09] Was woman character, guy in wheelchair.

[01:40:12] They got a blackout.

[01:40:13] They made me do a lot of politics.

[01:40:14] Yeah.

[01:40:15] They got a racially ambiguous woman.

[01:40:19] Part of the main cast.

[01:40:20] What are we doing here, Treyarch?

[01:40:22] Is she white?

[01:40:23] Is she brown?

[01:40:24] We don't know.

[01:40:25] Who's to say?

[01:40:26] Who's to say?

[01:40:27] Now, hold on.

[01:40:28] Hold on.

[01:40:28] There's, like, five main characters on your team or whatever.

[01:40:31] And it's, like, you have older business.

[01:40:34] Johnny Cage.

[01:40:35] Johnny Cage.

[01:40:36] Yeah.

[01:40:38] Which is my favorite.

[01:40:39] What's his name?

[01:40:40] Kruger, maybe?

[01:40:41] Or something?

[01:40:42] Cass?

[01:40:43] Case?

[01:40:44] Is it Cass?

[01:40:45] No, Cass is you.

[01:40:46] Phillip's talking about the.

[01:40:47] Are you talking about the German?

[01:40:49] The Newman?

[01:40:49] The German guy?

[01:40:50] The German, yeah.

[01:40:50] Yeah, the old German who's like, I get bad things in the war.

[01:40:54] That guy.

[01:40:57] I can't stop thinking of Seinfeld every time they were like, Newman, tell me about this.

[01:41:02] Tell me about what's going on in the safe.

[01:41:05] Okay.

[01:41:05] There was a bluff where, like, you play as him for a little bit and he puts on these, like,

[01:41:09] rubber gloves, you know?

[01:41:10] Like, surgical gloves.

[01:41:11] And then later on you see him and he's putting his hands up to a fire.

[01:41:14] And I'm just like, ooh, I was in Boy Scouts.

[01:41:16] You probably shouldn't put plastic gloves up close to the fire like that.

[01:41:19] That's not very good.

[01:41:21] Oh, it's Adler, by the way.

[01:41:23] Newman Adler?

[01:41:24] Oh, yeah.

[01:41:25] Sorry, every time I heard the name Adler, I thought of this guy that I used to work with

[01:41:29] and I just got so mad because he was the biggest fucking idiot.

[01:41:33] So I just associated that character with a fucking idiot that I used to work with.

[01:41:39] And that's all I could think of.

[01:41:40] So you got some community difference with this game, huh?

[01:41:42] Adler is basically Wesker.

[01:41:45] He is.

[01:41:48] And he's what kicks off the adventure, too, which is, like, so good.

[01:41:53] Well, Adler's actually a character in Black Ops.

[01:41:55] So it's like, I'm like, oh, it's that guy.

[01:41:56] And what's weird is that, so Black Ops 6 takes place in between Black Ops 1 and 2.

[01:42:02] So that was the thing.

[01:42:03] So Black Ops, like, went into the future and then they came back.

[01:42:07] So, like, Cold War was then coming back.

[01:42:09] And then this is after Cold War.

[01:42:11] And that's what I wanted to ask you guys, like, because you have played these games before,

[01:42:16] that, like, Adler, is he the only legacy character that's pulled through

[01:42:19] or some of these characters also recurring?

[01:42:21] Woods is also recurring.

[01:42:23] The director?

[01:42:24] Or no, it's a wheelchair guy.

[01:42:26] Frank Woods.

[01:42:27] Frank Woods.

[01:42:28] Did you ever play, like, the part where he got disabled?

[01:42:32] Like, where he got his, like, legs shot out or his spine shot or something?

[01:42:36] Okay.

[01:42:36] No.

[01:42:36] So it happens off screen.

[01:42:38] Well, I mean, I didn't play the whole campaign of Cold War, so I don't know.

[01:42:43] But this is a direct continuation of Cold War.

[01:42:45] It's like how Black Ops 1 and 2 kind of, like, the same characters came over.

[01:42:48] It's like Black Ops.

[01:42:49] It's weird because one of the Black Ops doesn't even have a campaign.

[01:42:52] I think it's 4.

[01:42:53] Yeah.

[01:42:54] And so, I don't know.

[01:42:55] And Black Ops 3 is in the future.

[01:42:56] So that's the whole timeline.

[01:42:57] Black Ops 3 is, like, from now in the future.

[01:43:00] And then 4 has no campaign.

[01:43:03] 5 and 6 are in the middle of 1 and 2.

[01:43:07] So, like, it's confusing.

[01:43:10] Well, let's answer this.

[01:43:11] Which game is more woke?

[01:43:12] Modern Warfare 3 or Black Ops 6?

[01:43:15] Definitely Black Ops 6, I think.

[01:43:18] What?

[01:43:18] No way!

[01:43:19] Modern Warfare 3, where you have the Middle Eastern woman who's already better than everyone on the team?

[01:43:25] You're right.

[01:43:26] I think I blanked.

[01:43:28] You know how they...

[01:43:29] You know how, um...

[01:43:31] In the beginning of every chapter, they redact, like, the information.

[01:43:36] That's what I did to Modern Warfare 3.

[01:43:38] Like, I redacted it from your brain.

[01:43:41] Yeah.

[01:43:41] Yeah.

[01:43:42] That is the one you watched me play, Rachel.

[01:43:44] Yeah.

[01:43:45] That was...

[01:43:46] I don't know.

[01:43:47] Wheelchair Guy?

[01:43:48] That's pretty woke.

[01:43:50] Yeah, but...

[01:43:50] Wheelchair Guy's so cool!

[01:43:52] He's really cool.

[01:43:53] I really like his character.

[01:43:54] He's so cool until he fights able-bodied people, and then he's immediately taken out.

[01:44:01] I just want to date Gale.

[01:44:05] He's over on the computer just playing his character.

[01:44:11] Need that screenshot.

[01:44:13] He is that girl's friend.

[01:44:16] That's why he started a revolution, you know?

[01:44:19] He just wants to play his video game in peace.

[01:44:23] All right.

[01:44:24] So, let's get into the discussion, then.

[01:44:26] Nave, you wrote the notes, so do you want to lead us by the hand?

[01:44:30] Take me by the hand.

[01:44:32] Ocean Man.

[01:44:32] Yep.

[01:44:33] So, I...

[01:44:33] Let's start with zombies.

[01:44:35] I don't know if you guys have played zombies.

[01:44:37] Rachel's played at least one round.

[01:44:38] I'm sure of that.

[01:44:40] One singular round.

[01:44:41] So, have you guys played any of zombies?

[01:44:43] I loaded up the lobby, and then I stopped.

[01:44:48] Perfect.

[01:44:49] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:44:50] I've played a few zombies here and there.

[01:44:53] I've, you know, with friends and done, like, the...

[01:44:57] Excuse me.

[01:44:58] Sorry.

[01:44:59] But, yeah.

[01:45:00] I played, like, maybe...

[01:45:05] I don't know.

[01:45:05] I feel like for most of the games that I've played, it was most likely, like, Black Ops 3 zombies.

[01:45:11] And it was, like, staying up all night with some friends and just, like, doing the thing.

[01:45:15] But that's about it.

[01:45:15] All I know is you just survive as long as you can.

[01:45:19] Okay.

[01:45:19] I mean, like, so, you guys haven't played this game, Zombies, though, yeah?

[01:45:23] Oh, not yet.

[01:45:24] No, no, no.

[01:45:25] Okay.

[01:45:25] So, Rachel, you played one round, and you...

[01:45:28] This is really your only experience with Call of Duty before this game, was playing zombies,

[01:45:34] is what you said?

[01:45:35] Yeah.

[01:45:35] So, what do you think about new zombies?

[01:45:37] We played this split screen, by the way.

[01:45:38] So, I'll talk about that in a second.

[01:45:41] It was really hard to see.

[01:45:42] I think it was...

[01:45:44] It was fine.

[01:45:45] I don't hate zombies.

[01:45:46] Like, I am fine with just, like, a cooperative, like, horde mode, essentially.

[01:45:53] Like, I can get behind that.

[01:45:55] I didn't know anything.

[01:45:56] You were like, go get the gun off the wall.

[01:45:58] And I was like, what are you talking about?

[01:46:01] And you were like, it's white or something.

[01:46:04] And I was like, okay, I don't know what that means.

[01:46:07] But I'll look around, and then I kept dying over and over again.

[01:46:11] That was my experience.

[01:46:13] I'm not super good at shooters.

[01:46:15] Well, so we played in split screen, which was interesting that split screen is still a

[01:46:21] thing in Call of Duty.

[01:46:22] I really do like that.

[01:46:24] I think that's fantastic.

[01:46:25] I think it's amazing that there's split screen.

[01:46:27] Yeah, it's impressive.

[01:46:28] That is the best thing about this game.

[01:46:31] The biggest downside is that the text is illegible.

[01:46:35] And so you have no idea what the fuck I'm looking at.

[01:46:38] This was my first game of Call of Duty Zombies 2.

[01:46:41] So I'm like, I don't know what a gobble bobble is or whatever.

[01:46:45] You have, like, little gumballs that you can eat.

[01:46:48] And I'm like, I don't know what that means.

[01:46:50] I saw you, like, going up to gumball machines.

[01:46:52] And I was like, well, I want to do that.

[01:46:54] But then I couldn't because you did it.

[01:46:56] Then I was like, well, that's stupid.

[01:46:58] I guess I'll just go fuck off.

[01:46:59] It is wild how much is going on in Call of Duty Zombies now.

[01:47:03] And a lot of it carries over.

[01:47:05] A lot of them because it's like, oh, there's the pack-a-punch.

[01:47:07] I understand that.

[01:47:07] Oh, juggernaut.

[01:47:08] I know that.

[01:47:09] But it's like trying to explain that to Rachel on the fly where I was like, grab a gun off

[01:47:13] the wall and fucking please pack-a-punch it.

[01:47:16] And she did it eventually.

[01:47:18] But then I was like, but then she died.

[01:47:20] And I'm like, ah, fuck.

[01:47:21] You know what I mean?

[01:47:21] So it's like after that, she went and started playing Vampire Survivors.

[01:47:25] And I played a whole bunch more games.

[01:47:27] I played two extra games in Liberty Falls.

[01:47:31] And then I played four matches in Terminus.

[01:47:33] And I definitely, for people who are already familiar with the Zombies games right now,

[01:47:39] I definitely probably prefer Terminus.

[01:47:43] Even though Liberty Falls is an interesting area, Terminus just has like a better flow

[01:47:47] in my opinion.

[01:47:48] It looks spooky.

[01:47:49] It looks spooky.

[01:47:50] Is it spooky?

[01:47:50] Real spooky.

[01:47:51] It is spooky.

[01:47:52] And there are objectives in all Zombies maps.

[01:47:57] There are Easter eggs and stuff to do.

[01:47:59] But in this game, it feels like there's a primary thing you should be doing.

[01:48:02] Because you have objective markers and stuff.

[01:48:04] And in Terminus, it's a lot more obvious.

[01:48:06] I don't know if I just had bad teammates at Liberty Falls before.

[01:48:09] But I didn't know what the fuck I was doing.

[01:48:11] And we ended up dying before anything consequential happened.

[01:48:14] But on Terminus, we were making progress.

[01:48:16] We were doing things.

[01:48:18] And the map was changing.

[01:48:19] And I was like, oh, fuck.

[01:48:21] But I really did enjoy Zombies.

[01:48:23] I'm really happy that Round Base is back.

[01:48:25] Because I fucking...

[01:48:27] I said this before.

[01:48:28] I'm glad that they experimented with the Zombies formula.

[01:48:32] But I'm glad that they're back here.

[01:48:34] Because I actually wanted to play more.

[01:48:36] I was doing that before we got on the podcast.

[01:48:39] And I stopped because I was like, I got 20 minutes.

[01:48:41] I should work on the notes a little bit more.

[01:48:43] But I could have gotten one more round of Zombies in.

[01:48:46] And I really wanted to do that.

[01:48:47] I was testing that line.

[01:48:49] I mean, Zombies is kind of back.

[01:48:51] I don't know if people want this.

[01:48:53] But I wanted this.

[01:48:56] I think with the right people, I could play Zombies.

[01:48:59] Zombies.

[01:48:59] Like, I think if I were playing with Lindsay and Crystal, I could like fuck it up for a few hours.

[01:49:04] And not me screaming.

[01:49:06] Yeah.

[01:49:06] Yeah.

[01:49:07] If it was just Lindsay and Crystal, that's who I play games with.

[01:49:11] If I'm playing multiplayer games, then I'm fine.

[01:49:14] What is it like, Rachel, to share with the audience?

[01:49:16] What is it like to co-op play with Nave sitting next to him?

[01:49:21] Unbearable.

[01:49:25] I can't.

[01:49:26] I physically cannot.

[01:49:28] Because he's like, dude, he gives me so much anxiety that I have to like, I'm like, I can't.

[01:49:35] I can't do it.

[01:49:36] I'm sorry.

[01:49:37] I'm trying my best.

[01:49:39] And he's like, do this, do this, do this.

[01:49:40] And I'm like, I don't know what you're saying.

[01:49:42] Like, it sounds like you're speaking fucking a foreign language right now.

[01:49:47] So he's like pack a punch.

[01:49:49] It's probably the closest you can get in real life to standing next to like Goku as he's going Kaioken and just feeling the energy coming off of him.

[01:49:57] It's so bad.

[01:49:59] So bad.

[01:50:01] I love it.

[01:50:02] I love it.

[01:50:03] But it's fine.

[01:50:05] It's fine.

[01:50:05] It's fine.

[01:50:06] We get by.

[01:50:08] So multiplayer.

[01:50:09] So we played multiplayer at least, right?

[01:50:12] Gang?

[01:50:12] Yeah.

[01:50:12] Yes.

[01:50:13] Quite a few matches.

[01:50:14] No.

[01:50:14] There we go.

[01:50:15] Absolutely zero.

[01:50:17] That is okay.

[01:50:18] I wanted to ask.

[01:50:20] I played like a couple of rounds, but I'm sure you boys have probably put in some more hours into the multiplayer than I have.

[01:50:26] Do you feel stronger about these maps than the beta maps?

[01:50:31] Because I really had a great time in the beta.

[01:50:33] I did not play the beta.

[01:50:35] Okay.

[01:50:35] I did not play the beta.

[01:50:37] Oh, so we only have one beta player.

[01:50:38] That's fine.

[01:50:39] I go, as the listener knows, but I go on Media Blackout.

[01:50:43] I knew I was going to play Black Ops 6 because it was on Game Pass.

[01:50:46] So I was like, of course.

[01:50:47] So I just didn't touch anything related to this.

[01:50:49] I just wanted to experience it all whenever it came out for everyone.

[01:50:53] Yeah.

[01:50:55] So were any of these?

[01:50:56] So I put some maps on here in the notes.

[01:51:00] Only a couple.

[01:51:01] The ones that really stand out in my brain.

[01:51:03] Were any of these in the beta?

[01:51:07] No.

[01:51:07] There was one high.

[01:51:09] I mean, I'm looking at them and I'm trying to remember.

[01:51:12] I mean, potentially the vault might have been.

[01:51:15] But I feel like most of them weren't.

[01:51:18] The beta had like two primary maps I played on.

[01:51:22] And that was one of them was this like high rise apartment where it's like very brutalistic.

[01:51:27] Lots of glass and like swimming pools and shit.

[01:51:29] Oh, yeah.

[01:51:30] Just running around and spamming each other and just decimating each other.

[01:51:33] And then there was another one that had it was like a train yard.

[01:51:38] So those were the ones that I remember.

[01:51:40] This is where I got all of those.

[01:51:42] I didn't just want to flood all of the maps.

[01:51:45] But I know what you're talking about.

[01:51:46] So the skyline is the one you're talking about with the swimming pool.

[01:51:49] Which is an interesting map for sure.

[01:51:51] And then the one you're talking about with the train.

[01:51:56] Yeah, it was derelict.

[01:52:00] Derelict makes me incredibly angry.

[01:52:03] Because it's too long.

[01:52:05] I think it's too long.

[01:52:06] You can get sniped so easily in that one.

[01:52:08] It's actually insane.

[01:52:10] One thing that really triggered me.

[01:52:11] I was playing with...

[01:52:12] Twice, actually, since the game came out.

[01:52:15] I played with the guys over in the Discord of...

[01:52:21] Shit.

[01:52:22] What is their fucking podcast?

[01:52:25] Neon Pocket Dimension.

[01:52:26] Sorry.

[01:52:27] So Neon Pocket Dimension has a Discord server.

[01:52:29] It's called something else.

[01:52:30] Which is called Odd Valley.

[01:52:32] Fucking enough.

[01:52:33] So I always have to fucking figure it out.

[01:52:35] But I played with them twice.

[01:52:39] And the second time we played, we played Hardcore.

[01:52:42] Which I hadn't played yet.

[01:52:43] And normally I'm like, ah, Hardcore is pretty cool.

[01:52:45] But I was eating dog shit the whole fucking time.

[01:52:48] Because I was so used to the Time to Kill before.

[01:52:51] And in Hardcore, in a map like...

[01:52:54] Whatever that train map was.

[01:52:56] I can't remember.

[01:52:56] They're like, yeah.

[01:52:58] People will be on the opposite side of the map.

[01:53:00] And just be shooting periodically down one of the fucking hallways.

[01:53:04] And you will just die as you're running fast.

[01:53:06] It's one of the most frustrating experiences I've ever experienced.

[01:53:09] And I really hate that.

[01:53:11] But that's kind of just how Hardcore is.

[01:53:14] And how some of the maps are.

[01:53:15] I just don't...

[01:53:16] My play style is so get up and go.

[01:53:20] You know?

[01:53:20] Like, I'm such a Halo player.

[01:53:22] That whenever I play Hardcore.

[01:53:24] It just encourages me to just hide in a corner.

[01:53:27] And just wait for people to...

[01:53:28] It's like camping is just so boring.

[01:53:31] Yeah.

[01:53:32] That's why you gotta play the doubles gun game.

[01:53:35] That's the only thing that I really liked playing.

[01:53:37] Where it's just you and another player on a team get dropped into a small arena.

[01:53:42] And it's like, here's a random set of equipment that the other team also has.

[01:53:47] Go get them, boys.

[01:53:48] And then you literally have like 10 seconds before they are kicking in the door.

[01:53:54] Meanwhile, you're kicking in the same door.

[01:53:56] And you guys just both light up like a small apartment complex in the middle of Russia.

[01:54:00] Trying to kill each other with auto shotguns that they gave you.

[01:54:04] And I thought it was like the funnest thing whenever I was playing the multiplayer in this.

[01:54:08] Yeah.

[01:54:09] Yeah.

[01:54:09] I mean, the arcadiness of this game is definitely present.

[01:54:14] And I didn't feel it when I played Modern Warfare 3.

[01:54:17] I don't know why.

[01:54:18] But Modern Warfare 3 just kind of frustrated me.

[01:54:20] And this game, it does frustrate me as much as any competitive shooter would be.

[01:54:25] But I feel a flow state a lot more often when I'm playing this.

[01:54:32] I have a couple of maps that I put in here.

[01:54:34] Which Nuketown is in here now too.

[01:54:36] So I would add that too.

[01:54:37] But these are like the default maps.

[01:54:40] Do you recognize any of these?

[01:54:43] I recognize Lowtown.

[01:54:45] I did enjoy Lowtown.

[01:54:46] And I'm pretty sure I played a couple of rounds in the vault.

[01:54:50] Lowtown is interesting because it has this like water around.

[01:54:54] But you can swim in this game.

[01:54:55] And there's a lot of like random like getting killed from the swimming pool kind of happens.

[01:55:01] Lowtown has so many different loops that you can run.

[01:55:06] It's insane.

[01:55:07] And like every single time I'll get killed from like the apartment.

[01:55:09] I'll be like how the fuck did you get in there?

[01:55:11] And I'll go and find different ways.

[01:55:13] So every time I played that map, I would always find a random zip line that took me to a window that I was like I didn't know you could get up here.

[01:55:20] But now I'm up here and no one knows that you can get up here.

[01:55:23] So I'm just murdering like 15 people.

[01:55:25] And obviously that's because the game just came out.

[01:55:27] But like there's a lot of different directions you can come from in this game, which is normally something that makes me frustrated in these in these games getting shot from weird awkward angles.

[01:55:36] But they're also insulated, I think, like these little loops, like areas that people tend to gravitate towards.

[01:55:44] Yeah.

[01:55:44] I don't know.

[01:55:45] I really did like the Lowtown map.

[01:55:47] I will say.

[01:55:49] Sorry, go ahead.

[01:55:50] Well, I was just going to I was going to swing it around to Subsonic, which this this map also.

[01:55:56] It is basically a big you know what map it reminds me of, Philip?

[01:56:00] Rat's Nest in Halo 3.

[01:56:02] Yeah.

[01:56:02] There's a big outer ring and then there's the part in the middle that connects them.

[01:56:07] There is like this in this map.

[01:56:09] There are two doors that are closed and you can press a button on both sides of the door that opens the door up that lets people run through the middle.

[01:56:18] And there is just a constant war for keeping the doors either opened or closed.

[01:56:24] And I feel like that is just really, really fun.

[01:56:27] Like, I don't know why that is.

[01:56:28] But having people always opening and closing these damn garage doors, like it seems so stupid.

[01:56:36] But I don't know.

[01:56:37] Yeah.

[01:56:37] The play style is uniquely Cod in this game.

[01:56:40] But it also like it reminds me kind of vaguely.

[01:56:43] I have similar feelings of when playing like the big team battles in this game as like when we were playing Battlefield.

[01:56:49] What was it?

[01:56:50] 2049 or whatever it's called.

[01:56:51] Like I have just similar feelings in terms of traversing through the map and doing the different objectives.

[01:56:57] I will say that like this game, the omnidirectional movement just feels incredible.

[01:57:03] And I don't know if I've said this before, but like it's just like being able to move and slide in any direction that you want to at any given time.

[01:57:09] Whether you wanted to go backwards or sideways while you're, you know, shooting.

[01:57:13] Like, you know, especially with the jumping, able to like jump to one side and shoot, you know, going backwards at the same time.

[01:57:20] It's just really fun.

[01:57:20] I think it's really, really cool.

[01:57:22] I think that people are also insane in this game and that there are kids that are bleeding their eyeballs out probably playing this, doing the most absurd.

[01:57:31] I've seen some absurd shit happen in this game.

[01:57:33] So it's just it's one of those things where you have to I mean, I have never cared about Call of Duty for the longest time since Modern Warfare 2.

[01:57:42] I really just I have no stake.

[01:57:44] I have no investment in this game.

[01:57:45] But I will say that, like, this is the first time where I don't want to shove my controller through my TV while I'm playing a Call of Duty like multiplayer campaign.

[01:57:55] I feel like there's something to be said for that.

[01:57:57] Have you experienced the omnidirectional movement, Philip?

[01:57:59] Have someone blasted your ass 360 like barrel roll?

[01:58:03] Maybe.

[01:58:04] Now I've noticed a lot of people are jumping and diving.

[01:58:06] Yeah, dude.

[01:58:07] Yeah, it's so.

[01:58:08] And I'm sort of doing it, too.

[01:58:10] It's because that's just what you do.

[01:58:12] That's what you do.

[01:58:12] You're just jumping around.

[01:58:13] Yeah.

[01:58:15] Yeah.

[01:58:15] I don't know if it's the optimal strategy, but it's just what you do.

[01:58:18] It is a good strategy because people are aiming at like chest high or like head high.

[01:58:23] So it's like having the ability to be like head high or like crouch head high or prone or diving in a direction and like or sliding like having all these different things at your disposal.

[01:58:36] Really?

[01:58:36] It's a little frustrating when you're getting over by it.

[01:58:38] Maybe I would actually like this multiplayer because I'm so used to like Fortnite multiplayer and jumping around is so important in Fortnite that like maybe I could actually be good at this multiplayer if I gave it a shot.

[01:58:53] Probably not.

[01:58:54] Yeah.

[01:58:54] Gotta give it a fair shake.

[01:58:55] It's possible because I do be jumping.

[01:58:57] It's like the Halo 3 hops.

[01:59:00] I do be jumping around.

[01:59:02] Yeah.

[01:59:03] Yeah.

[01:59:03] The omnidirectional movement is also very funny looking because it's so the game is so realistic looking.

[01:59:10] But also the omnidirectional jumping and looking around like it looks so fucking confusing to the brain.

[01:59:17] People diving around and like just blast spinning in midair.

[01:59:21] I just love I love when people jump jump out of a doorway and I just kill them in midair.

[01:59:26] It's so fucking funny to me.

[01:59:28] My favorite my favorite though is the body shields for sure.

[01:59:32] Getting a body shield on someone is just like it's the most disrespectful thing you can do to anybody.

[01:59:38] It's like the the comms that open up whenever you do grab them.

[01:59:41] And so it's fucking incredible.

[01:59:43] Yeah.

[01:59:43] All of the Twitter moments that we've seen are just it's just as good real life unless you get like a kid who's like screeching into his microphone.

[01:59:50] Oh no.

[01:59:50] How cute.

[01:59:51] And then you snap his neck.

[01:59:52] It's actually very sad.

[01:59:53] I definitely got a body shield where he was like oh my god.

[01:59:57] And then I just I just I was like yeah that's right bitch.

[02:00:00] Eat that mannequin.

[02:00:01] Fuck you.

[02:00:02] It's like dude so many people are playing in local in local uh not in group chat.

[02:00:10] Game chat.

[02:00:11] That's it.

[02:00:11] Yeah.

[02:00:11] They're playing game chat.

[02:00:12] They're playing in game chat because they want that moment.

[02:00:16] You know what I mean?

[02:00:16] And so you keep hearing I was I said it last week but like I killed that guy around the corner and he was like you bitch and just you get so many of those and it just feels like game like like party chat doesn't exist anymore.

[02:00:27] It feels like people are playing in the lobby again and it's like it just brings me back and it makes me feel so much joy decimating people.

[02:00:37] You know what I mean?

[02:00:38] Like it's like it reminds you oh there was a human I just humiliated.

[02:00:42] I think that's the problem because it takes me back to whenever I played CSGO as a teenager.

[02:00:48] Oh no.

[02:00:48] And people told me to kill myself and doxed me and just like sent me my own fucking address and I was like oh no.

[02:00:56] That's classic dude.

[02:00:57] That's why I don't like multiplayer games.

[02:01:00] CSGO ruined everything for me.

[02:01:03] God why would you I don't even know why anybody would play Counter-Strike in the year of our lord.

[02:01:08] Maybe you're rushing.

[02:01:09] I was like 17 years old okay.

[02:01:12] This was like 13 years ago.

[02:01:15] That's fair.

[02:01:15] Honestly fair.

[02:01:16] But also it's like ah man Counter-Strike.

[02:01:20] Man and then I tried to play League of Legends and they were just as mean.

[02:01:25] But in text.

[02:01:26] Yeah but in text.

[02:01:27] Yeah.

[02:01:28] They didn't like call my actual cell phone.

[02:01:30] I'm a good teacher.

[02:01:31] And they were like hey you fucking suck at this game.

[02:01:34] Don't ever play it again.

[02:01:35] Do the CSGO people actually do that?

[02:01:38] No.

[02:01:39] Actually so someone from RuneScape got my phone number somehow.

[02:01:44] They doxed me but they were obsessed with me.

[02:01:47] They got my phone number.

[02:01:48] My like MySpace, Facebook, every account that I had on anything.

[02:01:53] They knew where I lived.

[02:01:55] They were from Japan.

[02:01:56] But you know.

[02:01:58] That's fine.

[02:01:58] That checks off.

[02:01:59] They buy Doogie.

[02:02:00] He gave me a lot of stuff in RuneScape.

[02:02:03] He gave me many things.

[02:02:05] Philip knows all about that.

[02:02:07] Yeah.

[02:02:07] You gotta have a RuneScape boyfriend.

[02:02:09] Yeah.

[02:02:09] He was my RuneScape boyfriend.

[02:02:11] I love that.

[02:02:11] And he just happened to know every single thing about me ever.

[02:02:15] Probably including my social security number.

[02:02:17] That actually was so terrifying.

[02:02:18] So terrifying.

[02:02:19] I was you know like 13 years old.

[02:02:22] It's fine.

[02:02:23] It's fine.

[02:02:23] It's totally fine.

[02:02:29] Multiplayer shooters.

[02:02:32] That checks out.

[02:02:34] I probably wouldn't.

[02:02:35] If that was my first multiplayer shooter.

[02:02:37] Yeah.

[02:02:37] I probably wouldn't like shooters either.

[02:02:38] Yeah.

[02:02:39] Yeah.

[02:02:40] All right.

[02:02:41] Oh.

[02:02:41] Want to move over to the campaign?

[02:02:42] I mean we.

[02:02:43] We don't need to talk about this.

[02:02:44] Yeah.

[02:02:44] This is what I've been waiting for.

[02:02:45] Talking about this campaign.

[02:02:46] Yeah.

[02:02:46] This campaign.

[02:02:47] Okay.

[02:02:47] So cut right into it.

[02:02:49] It's a desert.

[02:02:50] By the way.

[02:02:51] Jet planes flying over.

[02:02:52] What?

[02:02:53] What?

[02:02:53] Major spoilers?

[02:02:54] Stop listening.

[02:02:55] Yeah.

[02:02:55] Stop listening.

[02:02:55] We're about to spoil the dog shit out of this fucking campaign.

[02:02:58] Absolutely.

[02:02:59] All right.

[02:03:00] All right.

[02:03:00] So.

[02:03:01] I got to say.

[02:03:02] Being in the military.

[02:03:04] Working on airplanes.

[02:03:05] I see a lot of airplanes.

[02:03:07] Yeah.

[02:03:08] And looking at the detail.

[02:03:09] On this fighter.

[02:03:10] That they zoom in on.

[02:03:12] Like not even like.

[02:03:13] They have the dedicated crew chief name stenciled on the side.

[02:03:16] Yeah.

[02:03:17] Like the proper pedo tubes uncovered.

[02:03:20] It looks great.

[02:03:21] They did their homework.

[02:03:22] All the military stuff looks great.

[02:03:24] I mean I haven't deployed.

[02:03:25] In Desert Storm.

[02:03:27] But from.

[02:03:28] From what I can tell.

[02:03:29] Of our machinery.

[02:03:30] From Desert Storm.

[02:03:31] That's still sitting around.

[02:03:32] It looks pretty damn good.

[02:03:35] Hell yeah.

[02:03:36] That's an official endorsement.

[02:03:37] From an airman.

[02:03:38] Fair enough.

[02:03:38] Fair enough.

[02:03:38] This level.

[02:03:39] Has a fucking striking.

[02:03:41] Image.

[02:03:42] You know what I mean.

[02:03:43] It is like.

[02:03:43] You can understand exactly.

[02:03:45] Where.

[02:03:46] What time frame you're in.

[02:03:47] From the imagery.

[02:03:48] That you're seeing.

[02:03:49] Right at the beginning.

[02:03:49] Not to mention.

[02:03:50] There's like.

[02:03:51] Bush talking.

[02:03:52] Like in a voiceover.

[02:03:53] Whenever you first go in.

[02:03:54] Right.

[02:03:54] Yeah.

[02:03:55] I mean yeah.

[02:03:56] But.

[02:03:56] I mean I just.

[02:03:57] I just really.

[02:03:58] I really enjoyed this intro.

[02:04:00] But also.

[02:04:01] It prepped me to play another Call of Duty campaign.

[02:04:05] For.

[02:04:06] Derogatory.

[02:04:07] In parentheses.

[02:04:08] Like I was like.

[02:04:08] I'm playing another Call of Duty.

[02:04:10] You know what I mean.

[02:04:11] Yeah.

[02:04:12] Yeah.

[02:04:12] And.

[02:04:12] That's what I felt too.

[02:04:13] I think it's.

[02:04:14] I think it makes the rest of the campaign.

[02:04:16] So much better.

[02:04:17] And so much more impactful.

[02:04:18] Because it preps you for that.

[02:04:20] Like it puts you in that mentality.

[02:04:21] Of like.

[02:04:21] Oh.

[02:04:22] This is the thing you already understand.

[02:04:24] Here's the tutorial.

[02:04:25] But as someone who doesn't understand.

[02:04:28] It took me to a.

[02:04:29] Oh.

[02:04:30] This is super fucking generic.

[02:04:31] I feel nothing at all.

[02:04:33] Yeah.

[02:04:34] Um.

[02:04:34] This feels like.

[02:04:36] Guys with guns shooting.

[02:04:38] And that's what this game is going to be.

[02:04:40] You didn't.

[02:04:40] You didn't like the evocative imagery.

[02:04:42] It gave me like.

[02:04:42] Mad Max Fury Road vibes.

[02:04:44] With like.

[02:04:44] Zero shits.

[02:04:46] I tried.

[02:04:47] I really tried.

[02:04:47] This was generic to set you up.

[02:04:49] So they could pull the rug.

[02:04:51] Yeah.

[02:04:51] But it was so generic.

[02:04:53] That it physically like.

[02:04:54] Made me just.

[02:04:56] Detest it.

[02:04:59] Well.

[02:05:00] It worked.

[02:05:00] You probably would have not.

[02:05:01] Made it through Modern Warfare 3 then.

[02:05:03] No.

[02:05:04] Absolutely not.

[02:05:04] Well I thought you were going to say.

[02:05:05] Spec Ops the Line.

[02:05:06] Because that.

[02:05:07] Spec Ops the Line.

[02:05:08] Literally does this exact thing.

[02:05:10] But.

[02:05:10] If I want to.

[02:05:10] It's a long version in Spec Ops the Line.

[02:05:12] For way longer.

[02:05:14] Watch a movie about war.

[02:05:17] Uh.

[02:05:17] I'll watch Full Metal Jacket.

[02:05:19] Because it's a good movie.

[02:05:20] This game feels like.

[02:05:22] A bad movie.

[02:05:23] That I am being forced to like.

[02:05:26] Do.

[02:05:27] Interact with.

[02:05:29] As.

[02:05:29] Okay hold on.

[02:05:30] As an outside perspective.

[02:05:32] This is as someone who hasn't played.

[02:05:34] Like Call of Duty games.

[02:05:35] I have no references.

[02:05:36] I don't get any of the references.

[02:05:38] In this campaign.

[02:05:40] I don't think there.

[02:05:41] There really are any.

[02:05:42] Other than the callbacks to the characters.

[02:05:43] From the.

[02:05:44] From the previous games.

[02:05:45] Everyone I've talked to about this.

[02:05:46] Has been like.

[02:05:47] Oh.

[02:05:47] This references so many different things.

[02:05:49] It's so fucking crazy.

[02:05:52] And I'm like.

[02:05:53] It's still references.

[02:05:53] We'll talk about this.

[02:05:55] This game is.

[02:05:57] This game is inspired.

[02:05:58] And.

[02:06:00] And.

[02:06:00] Directly.

[02:06:01] References.

[02:06:02] Other games.

[02:06:03] In different genres.

[02:06:05] Like.

[02:06:05] Across the gaming industry.

[02:06:07] Yeah.

[02:06:07] Yeah.

[02:06:07] This game is meta as hell.

[02:06:09] It is.

[02:06:09] It's really cool actually.

[02:06:11] The Hotline Miami level.

[02:06:12] Blew my mind.

[02:06:13] Dude.

[02:06:13] The fucking Resident Evil though.

[02:06:15] Are you fucking.

[02:06:15] Are you kidding me man?

[02:06:16] But yeah.

[02:06:17] This level is.

[02:06:18] Strategically.

[02:06:19] Only Call of Duty.

[02:06:21] Yeah.

[02:06:21] Which I think that is.

[02:06:22] Probably what makes it.

[02:06:24] The most interesting.

[02:06:25] Now Philip.

[02:06:26] You wrote RC car on here.

[02:06:27] I didn't write this.

[02:06:28] Okay.

[02:06:28] Yeah.

[02:06:28] So.

[02:06:29] Right into the tutorial.

[02:06:29] They're like.

[02:06:30] Here's your gun.

[02:06:31] Here's shoot.

[02:06:32] And then they're like.

[02:06:32] Time to teach how to use equipment.

[02:06:34] And the first thing they give you.

[02:06:35] Is an RC car.

[02:06:37] And.

[02:06:38] I threw it on the ground.

[02:06:39] And.

[02:06:40] That's when I knew.

[02:06:41] I'm like.

[02:06:41] This is not.

[02:06:42] Modern Warfare 3.

[02:06:43] The second I started driving the RC car.

[02:06:46] It like.

[02:06:46] Rips around the corner.

[02:06:48] I'm like.

[02:06:48] Cutting through.

[02:06:48] And drive under a tank.

[02:06:49] Blow up.

[02:06:50] Kill like nine guys.

[02:06:51] And then they're like.

[02:06:52] Have another soldier.

[02:06:53] And they give you like.

[02:06:54] Two more RC cars.

[02:06:56] And I'm like.

[02:06:56] This game is great.

[02:06:58] Yeah.

[02:06:58] Like.

[02:06:58] I'm just gonna.

[02:06:59] I loved it.

[02:07:00] It was fun.

[02:07:01] The funny thing was.

[02:07:02] Is I.

[02:07:03] I.

[02:07:03] I put the RC car down.

[02:07:04] And I went and killed like one.

[02:07:06] I'm playing.

[02:07:06] I.

[02:07:06] I beat this campaign on veteran.

[02:07:08] By the way.

[02:07:08] Because I'm.

[02:07:09] I'm an asshole.

[02:07:09] You fool.

[02:07:10] But.

[02:07:11] So.

[02:07:11] That's the thing.

[02:07:12] Is I.

[02:07:12] I put it down.

[02:07:13] I wouldn't kill like one guy.

[02:07:14] And then as soon as I came back.

[02:07:16] I instantly died.

[02:07:17] Because where I put it down.

[02:07:18] I was kind of exposed.

[02:07:19] You just stayed in the house.

[02:07:20] They just instantly blew my brains up.

[02:07:22] But they were waiting patiently.

[02:07:23] For me to put the.

[02:07:24] Be done with that.

[02:07:26] That's really funny.

[02:07:27] Yeah.

[02:07:27] I think like.

[02:07:28] This game is really really cool.

[02:07:30] For a lot of different reasons.

[02:07:31] But like.

[02:07:32] The.

[02:07:32] First episode in this game.

[02:07:34] And the way that it ended.

[02:07:35] It was.

[02:07:36] Interesting to me.

[02:07:37] Because it was like.

[02:07:38] It gave me that feeling of.

[02:07:40] Phil.

[02:07:41] Rachel.

[02:07:41] I know you didn't play Modern Warfare 2.

[02:07:43] But.

[02:07:43] Philip.

[02:07:44] I'm assuming you did play Modern Warfare 2.

[02:07:45] And it's the.

[02:07:46] Of course.

[02:07:47] The scene where everybody knows.

[02:07:48] It's like the infamous one.

[02:07:49] Where.

[02:07:50] You get betrayed by the general.

[02:07:52] And he shoots your buddies in the head.

[02:07:54] And he fucking lights ghosts on fire.

[02:07:56] And it's like.

[02:07:57] Super brutal.

[02:07:57] And it's like.

[02:07:58] I got that same feeling.

[02:08:00] Towards the end of this level.

[02:08:01] And again.

[02:08:01] Like the.

[02:08:02] The evocative imagery.

[02:08:03] Like.

[02:08:03] In just.

[02:08:03] In the way that it's painted.

[02:08:04] The oranges.

[02:08:05] The purple hue.

[02:08:06] From the background.

[02:08:07] I just thought it was well done.

[02:08:08] And it was a.

[02:08:08] It was a great way for me.

[02:08:11] Jumping into it.

[02:08:12] As somebody.

[02:08:13] Again.

[02:08:13] Who doesn't care about Call of Duty.

[02:08:15] I was like.

[02:08:15] Okay.

[02:08:16] Let's.

[02:08:16] Let's get into this.

[02:08:17] Yeah.

[02:08:18] And I.

[02:08:18] And I will say here too.

[02:08:19] Is that.

[02:08:21] The.

[02:08:21] One of the reasons.

[02:08:22] Why I like this campaign.

[02:08:23] In general.

[02:08:24] As a whole.

[02:08:25] From a mechanical perspective.

[02:08:26] Is that it feels like.

[02:08:28] Playing the multiplayer.

[02:08:29] You're not faced with as much adversity.

[02:08:31] As you are.

[02:08:32] Whenever you're playing the multiplayer.

[02:08:33] Like.

[02:08:34] You got to really be in a flow state.

[02:08:36] This game.

[02:08:36] Is like.

[02:08:37] Nave said it perfectly.

[02:08:38] We need to characterize it.

[02:08:39] As like.

[02:08:39] Arcade-y.

[02:08:40] Because it's like.

[02:08:41] Like.

[02:09:11] It feels like you're able to kind of.

[02:09:11] Super mad.

[02:09:12] Bad.

[02:09:12] And I was like.

[02:09:13] Going to go play Magic.

[02:09:15] After that.

[02:09:15] What about it made you so angry?

[02:09:18] I don't.

[02:09:18] I think it was just like.

[02:09:20] The type of game it is.

[02:09:22] Because I'm.

[02:09:22] I think the game is boycoded.

[02:09:23] It's so specific.

[02:09:25] It probably is.

[02:09:26] Of like the type of games that I like.

[02:09:28] Okay.

[02:09:28] But by the time I was done with it.

[02:09:30] I was just in a bad mood.

[02:09:32] Like I woke up.

[02:09:33] I was fine.

[02:09:34] And then I.

[02:09:34] Like.

[02:09:35] I played for three hours.

[02:09:36] And I had a headache.

[02:09:37] And I was like.

[02:09:38] I have to go.

[02:09:39] Finish my day after that.

[02:09:42] Well we can explore that.

[02:09:43] We can continue exploring that.

[02:09:45] Hold on.

[02:09:45] Yeah.

[02:09:45] Because there's like.

[02:09:46] There's multiple rug pulls in this.

[02:09:48] Because just in the first part.

[02:09:49] Like you said.

[02:09:50] It's like.

[02:09:50] This is just another Call of Duty.

[02:09:52] And then.

[02:09:53] It almost feels like.

[02:09:55] Like Nick said.

[02:09:55] Like the end of a game.

[02:09:56] Where you're finally capturing the guy.

[02:09:58] You have the team together.

[02:09:59] Hell's burning loose.

[02:10:00] And then.

[02:10:01] Randomly out of nowhere.

[02:10:02] Another character that you didn't even know was in the area.

[02:10:05] Just drives up.

[02:10:06] And shoots your target in the head.

[02:10:07] Killing him.

[02:10:08] This is a character that is in Black Ops.

[02:10:11] Like he's a recognizable character.

[02:10:13] Adler.

[02:10:13] Okay.

[02:10:14] He rolls up.

[02:10:15] And we're like.

[02:10:15] What the fuck?

[02:10:16] What's going on?

[02:10:17] And like all of a sudden it's like.

[02:10:18] Hey.

[02:10:18] This isn't just another Call of Duty war shooter.

[02:10:21] And it's like Black Ops time.

[02:10:23] And then it does a bunch of CIA.

[02:10:25] Like.

[02:10:26] Yeah.

[02:10:27] Slideshow stuff.

[02:10:28] Or whatever.

[02:10:28] Like the credits roll for like 40 minutes.

[02:10:31] Well this is the thing.

[02:10:31] Like this is just a trademark of Call of Duty now.

[02:10:33] Where all of their loading screens have like.

[02:10:36] Slideshows and people talking.

[02:10:38] Yeah.

[02:10:39] You know.

[02:10:39] Drogue over it.

[02:10:40] So.

[02:10:40] You see the.

[02:10:41] You see the blueprints of the weapons and stuff.

[02:10:44] Oh yeah.

[02:10:45] That's neat.

[02:10:45] Yeah.

[02:10:46] Takes me back.

[02:10:47] Yeah.

[02:10:48] Before we move on.

[02:10:49] One thing I will also say.

[02:10:51] And this is like going to be applicable to a lot of different aspects of this game.

[02:10:55] You know.

[02:10:56] We're going to go into how cool it is.

[02:10:57] Of how versatile.

[02:10:59] The different systems that they throw at you.

[02:11:01] Like this not being your typical Call of Duty experience.

[02:11:04] But also something that I really loved about it.

[02:11:06] Because I like.

[02:11:08] I'm a huge fan of the pulpy Tom Clancy.

[02:11:11] Clive Cussler novels.

[02:11:12] I read a ton of them as a kid.

[02:11:14] It would basically be my dad would read run.

[02:11:16] And as soon as he's done with his.

[02:11:18] He would just pass it off to me.

[02:11:19] And then I'd just read it.

[02:11:19] And we'd talk about it.

[02:11:20] It's something we bonded over.

[02:11:22] So this like very kind of like smart.

[02:11:25] You know.

[02:11:26] Military speak.

[02:11:27] You know.

[02:11:27] Efficient with their words.

[02:11:29] And their movements.

[02:11:29] And their actions.

[02:11:30] Like all of that stuff is really cool to me.

[02:11:33] And it's just.

[02:11:34] It's something that I think is.

[02:11:36] Deeply instilled in this game.

[02:11:38] This feels like I'm playing a Tom Clancy novel.

[02:11:40] In a good way.

[02:11:41] Take that Ubisoft.

[02:11:43] Oh God.

[02:11:44] Owners of the Tom Clancy IP.

[02:11:47] Yeah.

[02:11:47] Seriously.

[02:11:48] So with this level.

[02:11:49] I don't remember where.

[02:11:50] If it plays before the first level or after.

[02:11:52] But we realize that this is all being in a.

[02:11:55] Like a framing device.

[02:11:56] Of us explaining.

[02:11:58] To the director of the CIA.

[02:12:01] About what happened.

[02:12:02] And what went wrong pretty much.

[02:12:04] Oh yeah.

[02:12:04] They're doing the.

[02:12:05] This is the story.

[02:12:06] And then they're like.

[02:12:07] I have a story too.

[02:12:07] I bet you're wondering how we got here.

[02:12:09] It's like Gears of War Judgment.

[02:12:10] The best Gears of War.

[02:12:11] Oh my God.

[02:12:12] And he's like.

[02:12:13] You guys are in big poo poo trouble.

[02:12:15] Like you didn't know.

[02:12:16] Whatever.

[02:12:16] And I'm like.

[02:12:17] What's happening?

[02:12:18] Who are you?

[02:12:18] Which this dude has the roundest face.

[02:12:21] I've ever seen.

[02:12:21] Like his head is a perfect circle.

[02:12:23] His hair is perfectly quaffed.

[02:12:25] Yeah.

[02:12:25] His hair is just.

[02:12:26] He's got the perfect part.

[02:12:28] It's very handsome.

[02:12:29] So good.

[02:12:31] Anyways.

[02:12:31] He's really mean to us.

[02:12:33] Wheelchair guy.

[02:12:35] And our boss lady.

[02:12:37] Harrow.

[02:12:38] I remember her name.

[02:12:39] Because it is a.

[02:12:40] A card in Magic the Gathering.

[02:12:42] So that's why I remember her name.

[02:12:43] I remember her name.

[02:12:44] Because I kept looking around.

[02:12:45] Trying to figure out.

[02:12:46] Who I was supposed to shoot.

[02:12:47] And it would pop up.

[02:12:49] As I aimed my gun at it.

[02:12:51] Yeah.

[02:12:52] All right.

[02:12:53] So we end up going back.

[02:12:55] And Harrow's like.

[02:12:56] You guys really pooped the bed.

[02:12:57] Oh Marshall's there too.

[02:12:58] I think.

[02:12:58] Marshall's like our boss.

[02:13:00] I guess.

[02:13:01] Yeah.

[02:13:02] And.

[02:13:03] Marshall's like.

[02:13:03] We can't give up.

[02:13:04] There's something going on.

[02:13:05] How did they know.

[02:13:06] That we were going to be there.

[02:13:07] And Adderall was there already.

[02:13:09] Like we need to do something.

[02:13:12] And.

[02:13:13] Pharaoh's like.

[02:13:14] Don't get involved.

[02:13:15] Take a vacation.

[02:13:16] Don't worry about it.

[02:13:17] And then.

[02:13:18] Marshall's like.

[02:13:19] I know a guy.

[02:13:20] And.

[02:13:21] We.

[02:13:21] Or we meet up with Woods.

[02:13:22] And we go to.

[02:13:24] Denmark.

[02:13:25] Or something.

[02:13:26] Was what Adler said.

[02:13:27] Is Bishop takes Rook.

[02:13:28] Oh that was it.

[02:13:29] Yeah.

[02:13:29] We had a code.

[02:13:29] And so we went to this place.

[02:13:30] From Adler.

[02:13:31] Yeah.

[02:13:32] Because Adler.

[02:13:33] Knows something's going on.

[02:13:34] And he's trying to.

[02:13:36] Basically recruit us.

[02:13:37] To help him.

[02:13:39] Unknowingly.

[02:13:40] I guess.

[02:13:41] I don't remember.

[02:13:42] Yeah.

[02:13:43] Something's happening.

[02:13:44] It's kind of confusing.

[02:13:46] I don't.

[02:13:46] Like.

[02:13:46] So here's the thing.

[02:13:47] Like.

[02:13:48] I.

[02:13:48] I really hype up this campaign.

[02:13:49] I don't really understand.

[02:13:50] What's fucking.

[02:13:52] I played it once.

[02:13:53] On veterans.

[02:13:54] So I.

[02:13:55] It was a longer playthrough.

[02:13:56] And so I.

[02:13:58] I don't.

[02:13:59] Necessarily understand.

[02:14:00] What's happening in the meta narrative.

[02:14:02] But I.

[02:14:03] But I'm getting all of the.

[02:14:05] All of the vibes.

[02:14:06] If that makes sense.

[02:14:07] Yeah.

[02:14:07] I mean.

[02:14:08] It's pretty straightforward.

[02:14:09] Just like.

[02:14:09] There's another organization.

[02:14:11] Hiding inside the CIA.

[02:14:13] Called the Pantheon.

[02:14:14] It's.

[02:14:14] And their goal.

[02:14:15] Hydra has.

[02:14:17] Infiltrated shield.

[02:14:18] And their goal is to.

[02:14:20] That makes sense.

[02:14:21] Destabilize.

[02:14:21] I get that reference.

[02:14:24] Once they destabilize.

[02:14:25] The country enough.

[02:14:26] The CIA will be able to seize more power.

[02:14:29] And they will seize control of the CIA.

[02:14:31] Leading the Pantheon to control the United States.

[02:14:34] As the world's lone superpower.

[02:14:36] What do you.

[02:14:37] How do you guys feel about.

[02:14:39] Para military groups.

[02:14:41] Being the new.

[02:14:42] Uh.

[02:14:43] Evil.

[02:14:44] In these kinds of generic.

[02:14:45] Like.

[02:14:46] Uh.

[02:14:46] Like military games.

[02:14:47] It's better than just making them Nazis.

[02:14:49] I guess.

[02:14:50] My brain just like.

[02:14:51] Goes blank.

[02:14:52] Well it's like.

[02:14:53] It feels worse.

[02:14:54] Well it's hard to sell video games to Russians.

[02:14:55] When they're the bad guys.

[02:14:57] Yeah.

[02:14:57] That's what I was saying.

[02:14:58] You're talking about the Modern Warfare 3.

[02:15:00] Darn it.

[02:15:01] Yeah.

[02:15:02] When.

[02:15:02] When you have just.

[02:15:03] Cause that was the thing.

[02:15:04] Is Modern Warfare 3.

[02:15:05] It was like.

[02:15:05] Russia.

[02:15:06] But not Russia.

[02:15:07] Because it was a paramilitary group.

[02:15:08] But it's like.

[02:15:09] If you can't.

[02:15:10] Direct.

[02:15:10] It's like.

[02:15:11] It's not.

[02:15:12] Completely realistic.

[02:15:13] Whenever you are.

[02:15:15] Just.

[02:15:15] At war.

[02:15:16] In Iraq.

[02:15:17] But not with Iraq.

[02:15:18] You're at war with.

[02:15:19] A.

[02:15:19] An insurgency group.

[02:15:21] But I don't know.

[02:15:22] It's not like.

[02:15:23] Immediately.

[02:15:24] Well this one.

[02:15:24] But it's like.

[02:15:25] The Pantheon is mostly Americans.

[02:15:27] Yeah.

[02:15:27] That.

[02:15:28] That is interesting.

[02:15:29] I think.

[02:15:30] Yeah.

[02:15:30] Because at one point.

[02:15:31] We specifically said.

[02:15:33] It's like a western.

[02:15:34] Led.

[02:15:35] Transnational.

[02:15:36] Paramilitary group.

[02:15:37] Yeah.

[02:15:38] Because there are.

[02:15:39] Some of it is American.

[02:15:40] Because we do things in America.

[02:15:41] And some of it.

[02:15:42] Yeah.

[02:15:42] We'll talk about that in a minute.

[02:15:43] Yeah.

[02:15:44] All right.

[02:15:44] So.

[02:15:45] We go to the hideout.

[02:15:46] Where.

[02:15:49] Plewed to go here by.

[02:15:50] Uh.

[02:15:51] Adler.

[02:15:52] And he was like.

[02:15:53] Go here.

[02:15:54] We go there.

[02:15:55] We end up.

[02:15:56] Getting the team together.

[02:15:58] Which is kind of fun.

[02:15:59] Because then we have like.

[02:16:00] Marshall.

[02:16:00] Case.

[02:16:01] Woods.

[02:16:02] Kids.

[02:16:02] And we like.

[02:16:03] We need.

[02:16:04] We need a front man.

[02:16:05] We need a face.

[02:16:06] I think.

[02:16:07] Or.

[02:16:08] No.

[02:16:08] What was it?

[02:16:09] The next level?

[02:16:10] No.

[02:16:10] It's.

[02:16:10] When do we get the girl?

[02:16:12] The girl's the next level.

[02:16:14] Yeah.

[02:16:14] The girl's not there.

[02:16:14] Oh.

[02:16:15] Okay.

[02:16:17] So.

[02:16:17] So next one.

[02:16:18] The rook.

[02:16:19] The rook is a.

[02:16:20] Is the hub.

[02:16:21] So.

[02:16:22] This little house that we have.

[02:16:23] Which by the way.

[02:16:24] They use most of these assets.

[02:16:26] In the.

[02:16:27] In the map payback.

[02:16:28] Yeah.

[02:16:29] Which.

[02:16:29] I think is super fucking awesome.

[02:16:31] It's really cool.

[02:16:32] I really enjoy.

[02:16:33] Not only that.

[02:16:35] They use the assets.

[02:16:35] I think that that's very.

[02:16:36] Smart.

[02:16:37] But also that.

[02:16:38] The map payback.

[02:16:39] Is not just.

[02:16:40] The house.

[02:16:41] From the rook.

[02:16:42] Because the rook.

[02:16:43] The house.

[02:16:43] In the campaign.

[02:16:44] Is incredibly different.

[02:16:46] From payback.

[02:16:47] I was trying to explain that to Rachel.

[02:16:48] But she hadn't played the campaign yet.

[02:16:50] And so.

[02:16:51] I was like.

[02:16:51] Walking around.

[02:16:52] Like there's a door here.

[02:16:53] And yada yada.

[02:16:54] And she's just like.

[02:16:54] I have no point of reference.

[02:16:56] For any of this.

[02:16:56] But like.

[02:16:57] It's really cool.

[02:16:58] That they switched all of that stuff up.

[02:17:00] There's a couple of different.

[02:17:01] Different areas.

[02:17:01] Where you'll realize.

[02:17:02] It's just so funny.

[02:17:02] That you're like.

[02:17:03] There's a door here.

[02:17:04] This is so cool.

[02:17:06] And I'm like.

[02:17:08] Okay.

[02:17:08] It's like the mansion in Gears of War.

[02:17:10] You're like.

[02:17:10] Why don't you get it?

[02:17:12] And I'm like.

[02:17:13] It's a fucking door.

[02:17:14] I don't give a shit.

[02:17:15] About a door.

[02:17:18] But yeah.

[02:17:19] Continue.

[02:17:20] Yeah.

[02:17:20] Sorry.

[02:17:22] But uh.

[02:17:22] Tell us more about the door, Nave.

[02:17:24] Well.

[02:17:24] One of the really cool things.

[02:17:25] I think about the rook.

[02:17:26] Is.

[02:17:27] That.

[02:17:27] It's like a hub.

[02:17:29] That you keep coming back to.

[02:17:30] And then this is kind of like where.

[02:17:31] This was in.

[02:17:32] Black Ops Cold War.

[02:17:34] Where you would come back to like the.

[02:17:35] The main room.

[02:17:36] And like look at the clipboard.

[02:17:37] Where Charlie Day is trying to convince everyone.

[02:17:40] Of the Illuminati.

[02:17:41] Or whatever the fuck.

[02:17:41] I don't remember that episode.

[02:17:43] But.

[02:17:43] It's a popular meme.

[02:17:44] Game.

[02:17:45] And.

[02:17:46] I.

[02:17:46] I really was just getting vibes of Halo 3 ODST.

[02:17:50] Mm-hmm.

[02:17:51] Like with New Mombasa.

[02:17:52] Where every time you would do a mission.

[02:17:54] You'd come back.

[02:17:54] And then like be like.

[02:17:55] Oh okay.

[02:17:56] Which.

[02:17:56] Another thing in Halo 3 ODST.

[02:17:58] Is that.

[02:17:59] All of.

[02:17:59] Almost all of the missions are happening in the past.

[02:18:02] That's not the case in this game.

[02:18:03] But some of them are.

[02:18:05] And so it's like.

[02:18:06] Yeah.

[02:18:07] I don't know.

[02:18:07] I just think.

[02:18:08] I just.

[02:18:08] I just.

[02:18:08] That's just the vibes that I felt.

[02:18:10] Every now and then I'll just come in with the vibes of the games that I think are.

[02:18:13] Are like entering my brain while I'm playing the mission.

[02:18:17] This is also where you get a chance to talk to your crewmates.

[02:18:19] And possibly build romance options.

[02:18:22] Yeah.

[02:18:23] No.

[02:18:24] Don't show this to that one girl.

[02:18:26] Or that guy.

[02:18:27] I could not give a fuck less to talk to these guys though.

[02:18:30] Every time he gave me an option not to talk to them.

[02:18:32] I never talked to them.

[02:18:33] Yeah.

[02:18:34] Same.

[02:18:34] I like.

[02:18:35] I like them.

[02:18:36] I think that they had some interesting stories.

[02:18:39] I loved them.

[02:18:40] Yeah.

[02:18:40] But at first I'm like shut up old man.

[02:18:42] Let me do the mission.

[02:18:43] Okay.

[02:18:43] I think that it's really.

[02:18:45] I think that it's really cool.

[02:18:47] That they made it optional.

[02:18:50] You know what I mean?

[02:18:50] It was completely optional to talk to each different person.

[02:18:54] And ask them questions.

[02:18:54] And at any point you could stop.

[02:18:56] And be like I don't want to.

[02:18:57] I don't want to ask you any more questions.

[02:18:59] I'm bored with this.

[02:19:00] You know what I mean?

[02:19:00] It really just.

[02:19:01] It gives.

[02:19:02] The more that they give you to dig into it.

[02:19:05] But not that.

[02:19:06] Not be forced onto you.

[02:19:08] I think that that's like incredible game design I think.

[02:19:11] Or just storytelling in general.

[02:19:14] Yeah.

[02:19:15] That also gives you a chance to learn the history about some of the characters.

[02:19:18] If you wanted to.

[02:19:19] You.

[02:19:19] And often times in between missions.

[02:19:22] The characters would have little scenes or skits.

[02:19:24] Where they play out.

[02:19:26] Where he's like.

[02:19:27] Who keeps fucking leaving the lid of the peanut butter off.

[02:19:30] It gets crusty around the edges.

[02:19:31] And I can't eat it anymore.

[02:19:33] This is a fucking huge problem that I have.

[02:19:36] And I mentioned this.

[02:19:37] I hated.

[02:19:38] I hate that.

[02:19:39] But I understand that there's no way to stop that.

[02:19:41] Because.

[02:19:42] They want it to be natural.

[02:19:44] Like it's happening with or without you.

[02:19:46] And that's how conversations happen naturally.

[02:19:49] But the reason.

[02:19:50] The thing.

[02:19:51] The reason why I hate it is because.

[02:19:52] You are there experiencing it.

[02:19:54] But no one can possibly acknowledge you.

[02:19:57] Because the game can't tell if you're there or not.

[02:20:00] You know what I mean?

[02:20:01] So like.

[02:20:01] It feels like a play that's happening in front of you.

[02:20:05] Rather than like an actual.

[02:20:06] That's me like 4D chessing the game.

[02:20:09] Because I don't know.

[02:20:10] I agree with that.

[02:20:11] I agree with that.

[02:20:12] Because there are many moments where they're talking to each other.

[02:20:14] And I wanted the camera to frame them.

[02:20:17] Specifically in a way.

[02:20:18] Like you would.

[02:20:19] Like you would get from like a Sony game.

[02:20:21] For better or worse.

[02:20:22] They do really really cool camera work.

[02:20:24] And it's like.

[02:20:25] Okay.

[02:20:25] These characters are having an interesting conversation here.

[02:20:28] I would like.

[02:20:28] Like I want to know where you want me.

[02:20:30] So I can see both of them.

[02:20:32] The reactions to it.

[02:20:33] So that's just a minor.

[02:20:35] Yeah.

[02:20:35] The unfortunate thing is that like.

[02:20:37] They want you to be immersed in it.

[02:20:38] They want it to be immersive.

[02:20:39] Because it's happening without you.

[02:20:41] But at the same.

[02:20:42] At the same time.

[02:20:43] They want you to have the freedom.

[02:20:45] To not be locked into it.

[02:20:47] Similar to the conversations.

[02:20:48] So.

[02:20:49] I don't know.

[02:20:50] It's.

[02:20:51] It's a small nitpick.

[02:20:52] I think.

[02:20:53] But.

[02:20:53] I couldn't get over that feeling.

[02:20:55] Of being like an intruder.

[02:20:57] You know.

[02:20:58] Interesting conversation.

[02:20:59] Well.

[02:20:59] Case doesn't talk.

[02:21:01] Yeah.

[02:21:02] Which is even funnier.

[02:21:03] Because you just stand there.

[02:21:04] And everyone talks to you.

[02:21:06] But you can still ask questions somehow.

[02:21:08] Yeah.

[02:21:08] But my favorite interaction.

[02:21:09] That you witness.

[02:21:10] Is you come back from a mission.

[02:21:12] And you walk in.

[02:21:14] And Woods.

[02:21:14] Is rolling in his wheelchair.

[02:21:16] With a monitor.

[02:21:17] Just kind of upgrading the base.

[02:21:19] This is so funny.

[02:21:20] And he's rolling over.

[02:21:21] He's got the monitor.

[02:21:22] He's trying to like.

[02:21:22] Pick it up.

[02:21:23] Or put it in his hands.

[02:21:24] And he drops.

[02:21:24] And he just falls on the ground.

[02:21:25] And crushes.

[02:21:26] He's like.

[02:21:26] Oh god damn.

[02:21:28] And.

[02:21:28] It's.

[02:21:29] Marshall or Adler.

[02:21:31] Yeah.

[02:21:31] Is like.

[02:21:32] Oh let me help you there little buddy.

[02:21:33] He's like.

[02:21:34] Get fucking off of me.

[02:21:35] I didn't catch that part.

[02:21:37] I'm kind of pleased.

[02:21:38] It's so funny.

[02:21:39] I need to go.

[02:21:39] Try to get that.

[02:21:40] Yeah.

[02:21:41] Yo.

[02:22:01] Ask for help man.

[02:22:02] Fuck you too.

[02:22:05] Fine.

[02:22:05] Have fun.

[02:22:08] Does it look like I'm having fun?

[02:22:10] Nah.

[02:22:12] That's not what I meant.

[02:22:14] You got dealt a bad hand.

[02:22:15] You're gonna get dealt bad hands kid.

[02:22:18] With us.

[02:22:20] Mistakes are high.

[02:22:22] To be honest.

[02:22:23] I don't think I could have done it.

[02:22:25] Come back home after.

[02:22:27] What happened in Panama?

[02:22:28] Come up.

[02:22:29] Oh god.

[02:22:30] And then.

[02:22:30] I think.

[02:22:31] It might be the same one.

[02:22:32] But then Sev.

[02:22:33] Might come up.

[02:22:34] Behind.

[02:22:34] And be like.

[02:22:35] Hey.

[02:22:37] I'm sorry you're disabled.

[02:22:38] Go to battle.

[02:22:38] I don't remember what she says.

[02:22:39] It's better than that.

[02:22:41] It is actually like.

[02:22:44] Interesting.

[02:22:44] I think.

[02:22:45] You know.

[02:22:46] I genuinely think.

[02:22:48] Because he was.

[02:22:50] Wounded in some way.

[02:22:51] In the Cold War game.

[02:22:52] I don't remember.

[02:22:53] But like.

[02:22:53] It was in Panama apparently.

[02:22:56] Oh did you look it up?

[02:22:57] No.

[02:22:57] I mean.

[02:22:57] They just kept saying it.

[02:22:58] They keep referencing.

[02:23:00] Getting sold out by Panama.

[02:23:02] And they are trying to blame it on Livingston.

[02:23:04] The CIA.

[02:23:06] Director.

[02:23:06] Who is trying to come forward.

[02:23:08] And get them to.

[02:23:10] He's trying to get them to.

[02:23:12] Admit that they're up to no good.

[02:23:14] Or whatever the case may be.

[02:23:15] But I just.

[02:23:15] I assume that happens.

[02:23:16] I just don't know.

[02:23:17] Whether or not you go to Panama.

[02:23:19] In Cold War.

[02:23:20] And that's where you actually see shit going down.

[02:23:22] But I think Nave said.

[02:23:24] Earlier that he just confirmed.

[02:23:25] That everything happens off screen.

[02:23:27] In between that game and this game.

[02:23:30] So.

[02:23:31] Yeah.

[02:23:31] Yeah.

[02:23:31] I was trying to look it up real quick.

[02:23:32] And there's no.

[02:23:33] Easy answer.

[02:23:35] Yeah.

[02:23:35] It's like.

[02:23:36] It's spoiled.

[02:23:36] The fucking.

[02:23:37] You have to read.

[02:23:38] Like a.

[02:23:38] Yeah.

[02:23:39] There's a whole article.

[02:23:40] Why Woods is in a wheelchair.

[02:23:42] And possibly problematic.

[02:23:43] From the direct.com.

[02:23:45] We're not reading that.

[02:23:46] Yeah.

[02:23:47] Possibly problematic.

[02:23:48] I love it.

[02:23:50] But yeah.

[02:23:51] So.

[02:23:51] So.

[02:23:51] Are we talking about the Rook.

[02:23:52] At this point.

[02:23:53] We're.

[02:23:53] Yeah.

[02:23:54] We're just talking about the Rook.

[02:23:55] The base.

[02:23:56] Did you guys do.

[02:23:58] The.

[02:23:58] Extra shit.

[02:24:00] Like play the piano.

[02:24:01] Yeah.

[02:24:01] I did the piano thing.

[02:24:02] I didn't know if there was any more than that mission.

[02:24:06] I've just been.

[02:24:07] Spamming the.

[02:24:07] The main campaign.

[02:24:10] That's the only thing I did.

[02:24:11] Okay.

[02:24:11] Was the piano stuff.

[02:24:12] Okay.

[02:24:13] Cool.

[02:24:13] Cool.

[02:24:13] Cool.

[02:24:14] Gotcha.

[02:24:15] Good deal.

[02:24:16] But in the game.

[02:24:17] You have a black light.

[02:24:17] Which you use to do little mini games.

[02:24:19] It's kind of fun.

[02:24:20] Yeah.

[02:24:20] But.

[02:24:21] Just around the base.

[02:24:22] You can.

[02:24:23] Laser it to find little.

[02:24:25] Not even Easter eggs.

[02:24:26] Just like little story.

[02:24:27] Tidbits about.

[02:24:28] The Russians.

[02:24:29] They used to live there.

[02:24:31] Yeah.

[02:24:31] It's pretty cool.

[02:24:32] It's pretty cool.

[02:24:32] And they have a torture.

[02:24:33] Torture cell in the basement.

[02:24:35] It's pretty.

[02:24:36] It's pretty sick.

[02:24:36] Which is awesome.

[02:24:38] Hell yeah.

[02:24:38] Never gets used by you guys though.

[02:24:40] Despite you torturing people.

[02:24:42] It's interesting.

[02:24:43] It's interesting.

[02:24:43] But yeah.

[02:24:44] They couldn't do that.

[02:24:45] Because in case you hadn't discovered it.

[02:24:47] Yeah.

[02:24:48] Yeah.

[02:24:48] You're right.

[02:24:49] Yeah.

[02:24:49] So true.

[02:24:50] So true.

[02:24:50] But yeah.

[02:24:52] I think this is definitely like getting the crew together was really neat.

[02:24:57] And this next game was actually really cool.

[02:25:00] This is where.

[02:25:02] They're the next level.

[02:25:03] Well so this level.

[02:25:04] The rook was like.

[02:25:06] Oh okay cool.

[02:25:06] They're going to do the hub stuff again.

[02:25:08] That's interesting.

[02:25:08] This is where I was like.

[02:25:10] Oh.

[02:25:10] This is different.

[02:25:12] Yeah.

[02:25:12] Like immediately different.

[02:25:13] Not like.

[02:25:14] Not like a hundred percent different.

[02:25:15] Maybe like forty percent different from a Call of Duty mission.

[02:25:18] But like.

[02:25:19] I was still like on edge.

[02:25:21] Like what the fuck is happening right now?

[02:25:22] The stealth is better in this game than like ninety percent of the games that I've tried

[02:25:27] to do stealth.

[02:25:28] That I've played in like the last three years.

[02:25:30] I think.

[02:25:30] Like the stealth is so serviceable and good in this game.

[02:25:33] The stealth is better in this game than like.

[02:25:35] Well okay.

[02:25:36] I'm not going to make that comparison.

[02:25:37] But it is very good.

[02:25:38] Sorry.

[02:25:38] I think there are two primary factors to this.

[02:25:41] One being that the gunplay is exceptional.

[02:25:44] Because it is Call of Duty.

[02:25:45] And so if you fuck up.

[02:25:47] You can fight back.

[02:25:49] Yep.

[02:25:49] And I think that's.

[02:25:50] That's.

[02:25:50] That's.

[02:25:51] That's a.

[02:25:51] That's a big thing.

[02:25:52] And then I think the second thing.

[02:25:53] Is that.

[02:25:54] It is very lenient.

[02:25:56] So like.

[02:25:57] Yeah.

[02:25:57] It's.

[02:25:57] You're not held to very very high standards.

[02:26:00] This isn't a sim.

[02:26:01] Right.

[02:26:02] It's not like a.

[02:26:03] It's not like Metal Gear Solid or Hitman.

[02:26:05] So.

[02:26:06] You are allowed to fuck up.

[02:26:08] Yeah.

[02:26:08] And the AI is not going to just.

[02:26:11] Directly punish you.

[02:26:12] Like.

[02:26:12] It's not like in games where like.

[02:26:13] As soon as you're found out.

[02:26:15] Everyone in the entire zip code.

[02:26:16] Knows that your location.

[02:26:18] Where.

[02:26:18] It's just the one guy.

[02:26:19] Someone can see you.

[02:26:20] And you can kill them.

[02:26:21] And then they see that guy.

[02:26:22] And then you can kill that guy.

[02:26:23] And it's like.

[02:26:24] I feel like.

[02:26:25] A lot of.

[02:26:25] A lot of games lose that.

[02:26:27] Yeah.

[02:26:28] Whenever they're trying to do stealth.

[02:26:32] Rachel.

[02:26:32] Do you remember the blood feud mission?

[02:26:34] What mission?

[02:26:37] The blood feud.

[02:26:37] The one where you kill the guy in the boat.

[02:26:40] And everything.

[02:26:42] Yeah.

[02:26:42] It was pretty short.

[02:26:44] It was.

[02:26:46] Just going to snipe a dude.

[02:26:49] I felt nothing about that mission.

[02:26:51] It was.

[02:26:53] Like.

[02:26:54] Yeah.

[02:26:55] I snuck around for a little bit.

[02:26:57] Then I got caught at one point.

[02:26:59] And they were like.

[02:26:59] Okay.

[02:27:00] Well.

[02:27:00] I guess I'll just shoot everyone.

[02:27:03] And then they were like.

[02:27:04] Snipe this dude.

[02:27:05] In this picture.

[02:27:06] And I did that.

[02:27:09] That was it.

[02:27:10] I felt nothing.

[02:27:11] Nothing at all.

[02:27:13] It was.

[02:27:14] It was a mission.

[02:27:17] I don't know.

[02:27:18] Which.

[02:27:18] This is the sniper mission of the game.

[02:27:20] Sadly.

[02:27:21] It's not that great.

[02:27:22] Was it?

[02:27:23] Because.

[02:27:23] I guess so.

[02:27:24] Because.

[02:27:24] You never used one sniper.

[02:27:25] One shot.

[02:27:26] I mean.

[02:27:27] I don't think this is the definitive sniper.

[02:27:29] Mission.

[02:27:30] I would say that the.

[02:27:32] Like the.

[02:27:33] There was like a couple after that.

[02:27:34] The hunting season mission probably.

[02:27:36] Is where I did the most of my sniping.

[02:27:38] I mean.

[02:27:38] I think this one is just.

[02:27:39] I think he was.

[02:27:39] I think he's mentioning like.

[02:27:41] The all gillied up thing.

[02:27:42] Where like.

[02:27:43] Oh yeah.

[02:27:43] Yeah.

[02:27:43] Yeah.

[02:27:43] It zooms in on the bullet.

[02:27:45] And it's like.

[02:27:45] Oh it's so dramatic.

[02:27:47] Yeah they force you to use a sniper.

[02:27:49] To shoot someone far away.

[02:27:51] Which I kind of liked it.

[02:27:53] Well it did.

[02:27:53] So this is the thing.

[02:27:54] Is that.

[02:27:55] What.

[02:27:55] What I really enjoyed about Blood Feud.

[02:27:57] Is that.

[02:27:57] It evoked.

[02:27:58] Multiple Call of Duty missions.

[02:28:00] Like some of the.

[02:28:01] It's like a greatest hits.

[02:28:02] So.

[02:28:03] This is the thing.

[02:28:04] All right.

[02:28:04] So.

[02:28:05] The very first mission.

[02:28:06] Was like a tutorial.

[02:28:07] And like.

[02:28:07] It's like.

[02:28:07] This is Call of Duty.

[02:28:08] And then the rug is like.

[02:28:09] Okay.

[02:28:10] So we're doing kind of the.

[02:28:11] The Cold War kind of thing.

[02:28:13] And then this.

[02:28:14] This mission.

[02:28:15] Was like.

[02:28:15] How about we give you.

[02:28:18] One third of this mission.

[02:28:19] Is all ghillied up.

[02:28:20] One third of the mission.

[02:28:21] Is the favela chase scene.

[02:28:22] One third of the mission.

[02:28:23] Oh yeah.

[02:28:24] Is the fucking.

[02:28:24] It's like.

[02:28:24] I forgot about the escape.

[02:28:25] Yeah.

[02:28:26] There's so many different parts.

[02:28:27] Of this mission.

[02:28:28] That you're like.

[02:28:30] Whoa.

[02:28:30] There's a whole lot of different things happening.

[02:28:32] Like they're asking so many different things of me.

[02:28:34] And.

[02:28:35] It's in one mission.

[02:28:37] It's not like.

[02:28:38] This would be three separate missions.

[02:28:40] In a normal Call of Duty campaign.

[02:28:42] I think it only felt that way.

[02:28:44] Like this whole game.

[02:28:45] Even when I was watching you play this.

[02:28:47] Before I played any of it.

[02:28:49] It felt like.

[02:28:50] Nostalgia bait.

[02:28:51] Based off of how you were talking about it.

[02:28:53] Like.

[02:28:54] And as someone.

[02:28:55] Who feels nothing.

[02:28:58] I feel absolutely nothing.

[02:28:59] About this game.

[02:29:02] I felt nothing about this level.

[02:29:04] Because I didn't have any of that nostalgia.

[02:29:07] That you are feeling.

[02:29:08] I didn't have any of these references.

[02:29:10] So it just felt incredibly dull.

[02:29:13] Like.

[02:29:14] It just felt like.

[02:29:15] A really bad movie.

[02:29:17] That I was being.

[02:29:19] Like forced to take part in.

[02:29:21] As someone who didn't feel.

[02:29:23] Like that.

[02:29:23] That like.

[02:29:24] Oh.

[02:29:24] I remember all of these references.

[02:29:27] Well.

[02:29:28] I mean.

[02:29:28] This next one is more creative.

[02:29:29] We want to jump into.

[02:29:30] The most wanted one.

[02:29:32] What were you about to say?

[02:29:33] Because the whole.

[02:29:34] I mean.

[02:29:34] I was just going to say that.

[02:29:35] Like.

[02:29:35] I totally get where you're coming from.

[02:29:37] Where is that.

[02:29:38] You know.

[02:29:38] You feel.

[02:29:40] Maybe left out.

[02:29:41] Potentially.

[02:29:42] That like.

[02:29:43] They're talking about things.

[02:29:44] Or like.

[02:29:44] They're incorporating things in here.

[02:29:46] And it's like.

[02:29:46] You as a new player.

[02:29:47] That's coming to the franchise.

[02:29:48] Feel maybe.

[02:29:49] I don't know.

[02:29:49] If it's the feeling of being left out.

[02:29:51] Or if it's the feeling of just.

[02:29:53] There's nothing that's exciting to you.

[02:29:55] Personally in here.

[02:29:56] But.

[02:29:56] As somebody who like.

[02:29:58] Doesn't really care about this franchise.

[02:30:00] And doesn't know anything about Cold War.

[02:30:02] Doesn't know anything about the other Black Ops.

[02:30:03] This did it for me.

[02:30:05] In a way.

[02:30:06] That like.

[02:30:06] I started.

[02:30:07] Okay.

[02:30:07] And I'm going to make a lot of different comparisons.

[02:30:09] Because they do.

[02:30:10] They literally do.

[02:30:12] This thing where they're emulating a bunch of other first person shooter games.

[02:30:16] But like.

[02:30:16] This game.

[02:30:17] Like.

[02:30:17] It made me feel.

[02:30:20] It made.

[02:30:20] It reminded me of Starfield in a way.

[02:30:22] It reminded me a little bit of Hitman in a way.

[02:30:25] And it was like.

[02:30:25] This is cool.

[02:30:26] Because I.

[02:30:27] Because I.

[02:30:27] And also.

[02:30:28] I was talking earlier about the stealth and stuff.

[02:30:30] And I just recently played Star Wars Outlaws.

[02:30:33] And they ask you to stealth a lot in that game.

[02:30:35] Oh man.

[02:30:35] And it's literally coming from a studio.

[02:30:38] Coming from.

[02:30:39] Somebody who made like.

[02:30:40] One of the most competent third person shooters.

[02:30:42] Of all time.

[02:30:44] You know.

[02:30:45] And.

[02:30:45] And they just completely fumble the bag.

[02:30:48] In Star Wars Outlaws.

[02:30:48] So it's like.

[02:30:49] Going from that game to this.

[02:30:50] Which is like.

[02:30:51] Super competent.

[02:30:52] Very well done.

[02:30:53] And also.

[02:30:54] Relatively like.

[02:30:55] You know.

[02:30:55] It's.

[02:30:55] It's.

[02:30:56] It's.

[02:30:56] Easy going.

[02:30:57] When it's.

[02:30:58] It's.

[02:30:58] It's trying to immerse you in the style.

[02:31:00] Of what they're setting.

[02:31:00] And so.

[02:31:01] I just felt like.

[02:31:02] This was a James Bond level.

[02:31:03] It was fun.

[02:31:04] I.

[02:31:04] I'm glad you brought up James Bond.

[02:31:06] I was literally about to say that.

[02:31:07] Yeah.

[02:31:07] This.

[02:31:08] This.

[02:31:08] This mission.

[02:31:09] For somebody who hasn't really played.

[02:31:11] Too many Call of Duty campaigns.

[02:31:12] Especially the golden years of Call of Duty.

[02:31:14] Because that's definitely what this mission.

[02:31:16] Is trying to evoke.

[02:31:17] On one level.

[02:31:18] But like.

[02:31:19] It definitely feels like something.

[02:31:21] Out of a James Bond movie.

[02:31:22] But at the same time.

[02:31:23] It is.

[02:31:24] Signaling.

[02:31:25] To the people who are playing this campaign.

[02:31:27] That.

[02:31:28] That.

[02:31:29] Not only.

[02:31:30] Are we going to be evoking.

[02:31:32] All of these different ideals.

[02:31:34] From different campaigns.

[02:31:35] We are going to be putting them together.

[02:31:37] In a way.

[02:31:38] That is going.

[02:31:39] That is going to be.

[02:31:41] Faster.

[02:31:41] And more frantic.

[02:31:43] Essentially.

[02:31:44] Yeah.

[02:31:44] And I think they definitely.

[02:31:47] Let's go on to the next one.

[02:31:49] All right.

[02:31:49] This one.

[02:31:50] Incredible.

[02:31:51] Yeah.

[02:31:52] Most wanted.

[02:31:53] This one.

[02:31:54] This is where you realize.

[02:31:55] That this Call of Duty.

[02:31:56] Once again.

[02:31:57] Is not like.

[02:31:58] The same.

[02:31:58] Your dad's Call of Duty.

[02:31:59] Or whatever.

[02:32:00] The same Call of Duty.

[02:32:01] You passed.

[02:32:02] After finishing.

[02:32:03] The last level.

[02:32:04] How many women.

[02:32:05] Are they going to put in this game?

[02:32:06] Jesus Christ.

[02:32:08] God damn it.

[02:32:09] No.

[02:32:09] After the last one.

[02:32:10] We get Sev on our team.

[02:32:11] Who is a master of disguise.

[02:32:13] Guys.

[02:32:13] Turtle.

[02:32:14] Whatever.

[02:32:15] So she's able to sneak you into other places.

[02:32:18] She sneaks you into.

[02:32:20] What is basically a hitman level.

[02:32:22] At a political rally.

[02:32:23] This is that level right?

[02:32:25] Yes.

[02:32:26] Yeah.

[02:32:26] And they're like.

[02:32:26] All right.

[02:32:26] Well you need to get in there.

[02:32:27] And you need to get.

[02:32:28] A photograph.

[02:32:30] Of the congressman's eyeballs.

[02:32:31] Balls.

[02:32:32] That's all you got to do.

[02:32:33] But.

[02:32:34] They highlight.

[02:32:35] Three separate paths.

[02:32:36] For you to do it.

[02:32:37] And even give you a mini map.

[02:32:38] With little icons.

[02:32:39] Where they're like.

[02:32:40] Maybe you can go through this way.

[02:32:42] Or this way.

[02:32:43] Or whatever you feel.

[02:32:44] And I'm like.

[02:32:45] It's him man.

[02:32:46] That is literally this whole.

[02:32:47] Section of the game.

[02:32:49] It's so.

[02:32:50] Fucking interesting.

[02:32:51] And it's such an amazing.

[02:32:53] Direction.

[02:32:53] For.

[02:32:54] Activision.

[02:32:55] To be going in.

[02:32:56] Like.

[02:32:56] Because they never do this.

[02:32:57] They've never done this before.

[02:32:59] Right.

[02:32:59] What's.

[02:33:00] What's genuinely flabbergasting.

[02:33:02] Is that like.

[02:33:02] They even gave.

[02:33:03] Raven.

[02:33:04] The ability.

[02:33:05] To be this creative.

[02:33:06] With the fucking campaign.

[02:33:08] Like.

[02:33:08] This must have taken.

[02:33:09] So long.

[02:33:10] To program.

[02:33:11] This one level.

[02:33:12] Is what I'm.

[02:33:13] Yeah.

[02:33:14] That's what makes me.

[02:33:15] So fucking confused.

[02:33:16] Is that like.

[02:33:17] Call of Duty.

[02:33:17] Is just.

[02:33:18] A super efficient.

[02:33:19] Fucking.

[02:33:20] Streamline.

[02:33:21] Shooter.

[02:33:22] For the masses.

[02:33:23] And then they made.

[02:33:24] This level.

[02:33:25] Like.

[02:33:26] This is not.

[02:33:27] What your normal.

[02:33:28] Call of Duty player.

[02:33:29] Is generally going for.

[02:33:30] What the Mountain Dew chuggers.

[02:33:32] Don't want a.

[02:33:33] Stealthy.

[02:33:33] Mystery.

[02:33:34] Like exploration.

[02:33:35] Level.

[02:33:36] I loved it.

[02:33:37] I loved it.

[02:33:38] It was like.

[02:33:38] It was literally.

[02:33:39] Just you're doing.

[02:33:40] Your James Bond.

[02:33:41] This is what I mean.

[02:33:42] When I'm talking about.

[02:33:42] A Clive Kussler novel.

[02:33:44] You're going.

[02:33:45] You're.

[02:33:45] You're talking about senators.

[02:33:46] You see fucking Bill Clinton.

[02:33:47] On the stage.

[02:33:48] You have to talk to.

[02:33:50] You have to talk to.

[02:33:51] A governor aide.

[02:33:52] And you know.

[02:33:53] She's.

[02:33:53] She's fucking the governor.

[02:33:54] Behind his wife's back.

[02:33:55] Like.

[02:33:55] Oh.

[02:33:56] Wait.

[02:33:56] Pause.

[02:33:56] This is good shit.

[02:33:58] There are three paths.

[02:33:59] Right.

[02:33:59] So.

[02:34:00] One where the wife is cheating.

[02:34:01] One where.

[02:34:02] It's called the highest bidder.

[02:34:03] And then the other one called mystery man.

[02:34:04] I don't know the other two.

[02:34:06] What.

[02:34:06] Because I chose the wife cheating scandal.

[02:34:08] I chose the wife.

[02:34:09] We all chose.

[02:34:09] I chose the wife.

[02:34:10] It's the husband cheating.

[02:34:11] But yeah.

[02:34:11] It was the cheating scandal.

[02:34:12] I did the mystery man.

[02:34:13] Yeah.

[02:34:14] Oh.

[02:34:14] What was the mystery man Phil?

[02:34:16] I don't know.

[02:34:16] You were listening to what I did.

[02:34:18] What did I choose?

[02:34:21] Do you remember?

[02:34:22] I don't remember.

[02:34:23] No you couldn't hear anything.

[02:34:25] I couldn't hear any dialogue because the Xbox has a problem where sometimes when you're

[02:34:29] streaming it doesn't.

[02:34:31] You couldn't hear anything and I was progressively getting more and more frustrated.

[02:34:37] So I like.

[02:34:37] You couldn't hear anything while you were playing at all?

[02:34:40] We'll talk about it in a second.

[02:34:41] Let Philip finish his thing.

[02:34:42] Go ahead.

[02:34:43] Okay.

[02:34:43] The mystery man was when the senator walked in he was given a note by a strange man and

[02:34:52] it had like a meeting time and location on it and he stuffed it in his pocket and then

[02:34:57] he hung his coat up on the coat rack.

[02:34:59] So he had to break into the coat room, get the note, figure out where the meeting was

[02:35:03] and then go back and see what's going on.

[02:35:05] But of course, I don't know what happened with you guys, but you get captured by him and

[02:35:11] his two thugs when you walk in.

[02:35:13] What?

[02:35:14] No.

[02:35:14] Cool.

[02:35:14] Didn't you?

[02:35:15] Yeah.

[02:35:15] Oh, no.

[02:35:16] Okay.

[02:35:16] So he's waiting for somebody to come in there.

[02:35:19] He's waiting for his mystery man to show up.

[02:35:21] And obviously whatever they were meeting over was not good because you walk in and instantly

[02:35:26] two thugs like grab you and disarm you.

[02:35:28] And then they start going like, who are you?

[02:35:31] Are you a reporter?

[02:35:32] You know, like you're you have a press badge and all this other stuff.

[02:35:35] What are you doing here?

[02:35:36] You're not a normal reporter.

[02:35:38] And you then murder with your hands.

[02:35:41] Guys in the kitchen in the most brutal fashion possible.

[02:35:44] Like, oh, yeah, like it's and then you beat the crap out of the senator and then you take

[02:35:48] his photo while he's laying on the ground.

[02:35:50] Just unconscious.

[02:35:51] It's amazing.

[02:35:52] Cool.

[02:35:52] So you have to like hold his eyeball open while you were snapping the picture.

[02:35:55] He's like zoning in and out.

[02:35:57] Like, OK.

[02:35:58] And they're like Mortal Kombat fatality.

[02:36:00] Yeah, he's way for a fatality.

[02:36:03] Also, the brutality that you murder these guys with like kitchen knives and stuff was

[02:36:07] like over the top.

[02:36:08] And that comes up later when you realize that your character is a murder machine.

[02:36:14] And it's in canon.

[02:36:16] Rachel did the highest bidder then in that case.

[02:36:19] And one thing before she starts talking about what she did, I noticed because I was I was

[02:36:26] at work like driving a mail truck.

[02:36:28] So and I couldn't hear any dialogue in the game.

[02:36:30] All I could hear is like panting and gunfire or like shuffling and then her talking.

[02:36:36] And so I would periodically look over and I'm like, oh, yes, that sucks.

[02:36:42] She's doing the same thing I did, but that's whatever.

[02:36:44] And then I would look again and I'm like, I have no idea what the fuck she's doing.

[02:36:48] So she's she was I think she was floating around through all three of the missions until she

[02:36:55] got locked into one.

[02:36:58] Probably honestly, because I'm not good at video games.

[02:37:02] I just like to play them sometimes.

[02:37:05] But I had to go spy on this.

[02:37:08] These two people who were like, we have I don't know, these this information about this dude.

[02:37:13] And then I had to go steal a thing out of a clock.

[02:37:18] Where you diverged because this.

[02:37:20] Yeah.

[02:37:21] So I was like sneaking behind curtains trying to steal a disk drive out of a clock.

[02:37:28] That's what I was doing.

[02:37:31] And then I did.

[02:37:33] The guy was like, yeah, I'll let you get close to him.

[02:37:37] I was like, all right, let's do that.

[02:37:40] And then it lasted 45 more minutes and I was over it.

[02:37:46] But it's cool.

[02:37:48] Like, I can accept that it's cool that there are so many different lines that you can go

[02:37:53] through with the game.

[02:37:56] I fully acknowledge that the game is not for me.

[02:38:00] I may be saying a lot of negative things about it, but I do fully know.

[02:38:05] Before I even played the game, I told Nave, I was like, I don't like shooters.

[02:38:12] It's not a game that I'm going to just naturally enjoy, but I am willing to give it a shot.

[02:38:18] And I really, I really tried to like be in a good mood whenever I played it.

[02:38:24] But what would you say is your typical genre that you like?

[02:38:31] Of games specifically.

[02:38:34] Anything that's super grindy.

[02:38:36] I like things that I have to like.

[02:38:38] Like Stardew.

[02:38:39] Like Stardew.

[02:38:40] Yeah.

[02:38:41] Anything that I have to grind out for super long times.

[02:38:44] I have to know every single thing about the game so that I can fully grind it out.

[02:38:50] She doesn't typically play like story games.

[02:38:52] Well, the thing that I thought was most caught off guard of because she was like, oh, I hate

[02:38:55] shooting games.

[02:38:56] And I was like, this is the least shooting game campaign of a Call of Duty ever.

[02:39:01] Of a Call of Duty game, yes.

[02:39:02] That was the thing is that like you quit.

[02:39:05] This is where you quit was after Most Wanted.

[02:39:08] Really?

[02:39:09] And so I was like, this is, there's no shooting.

[02:39:13] So it's so bizarre that you were like, I hate shooting games.

[02:39:17] I hate this.

[02:39:17] And I'm like, this isn't.

[02:39:19] It was so boring.

[02:39:20] I don't know.

[02:39:21] It felt, you guys kept talking about James Bond just shortly ago.

[02:39:24] And that just like fully triggered me because I love James Bond.

[02:39:29] I think James Bond is fantastic.

[02:39:30] I love action movies.

[02:39:33] This game felt like the worst action movie from what I saw.

[02:39:38] I didn't finish it.

[02:39:39] So I can't like.

[02:39:40] This is the thing also is that you mentioned that the game, this level lasted so long.

[02:39:46] I genuinely believe it's because you kept floating between all three of the different things.

[02:39:52] Because each one, you're supposed to only do one.

[02:39:55] Like the whole purpose is to get a picture of the guy's eyeball.

[02:39:58] And each of the three different directions takes you there.

[02:40:01] By the way, the end of hers was somehow the governor got like grabbed by some goons.

[02:40:07] And then they hold his head up and you take the picture.

[02:40:10] I don't know how it is.

[02:40:11] I don't know what happened because I couldn't hear any dialogue.

[02:40:14] But yeah.

[02:40:15] I think I spent like an hour and a half on this mission.

[02:40:18] Yeah, that's too long.

[02:40:19] And by the end of it, I was just mad because I was like, why am I still doing this?

[02:40:26] I can see you getting mad.

[02:40:28] And I can also.

[02:40:29] Probably it would be better if like if you started one, it turned the other two off.

[02:40:34] But I think that Raven Software was so intense on like they wanted you to like play it your way.

[02:40:41] That they were like if you started the highest bidder and you wanted to like, ah, this sucks.

[02:40:46] You want to go to the cheating wife one.

[02:40:47] They wanted you to be allowed to do that.

[02:40:49] I think they also assume that everyone has played a Call of Duty game before.

[02:40:54] And I'm just like.

[02:40:57] I will say that there is some visual language discrepancies in this game.

[02:41:03] And this came up a little bit later on where I was playing through when it talks about like when the game asks you or wants you to go somewhere.

[02:41:09] And the icon of like where to go, like ping, you press like the left.

[02:41:14] It's like the left select button, I think, on the Xbox controller.

[02:41:18] Yeah, the back button.

[02:41:19] It's like that didn't work all the time.

[02:41:22] And that was something that frustrated me about it where I was like, OK, like now I have to like I know they give you a mini map, but I have to figure out where to go.

[02:41:28] And then I did ran into a little bit of backtracking because of that.

[02:41:32] But yeah, there was like things with the mini map where I would pull it up and it would still have all of the objective markers on it.

[02:41:39] So I didn't necessarily know where I needed to go.

[02:41:43] So I would just go to one.

[02:41:44] You got to pay attention.

[02:41:46] Yeah.

[02:41:47] And I think part of that part of part of that, too, is that this game is built on a lineage of first person shooters, story heavy games that rely on you understanding some of the visual language and like design language of those games.

[02:42:02] And I kind of get where you're coming from, that if you're a new person to these types of experiences where it can be weird, like if you were to just jump into Bioshock for the first time, you probably would lose your mind a little bit about like where the fuck do I go?

[02:42:17] What am I supposed to do?

[02:42:19] Yeah, it's like it's I I don't prefer the games.

[02:42:24] I can acknowledge that it's probably a good game for people who like that type of like people who enjoy Call of Duty, people who like shooters, people who want to feel nostalgic about all of these different games they've played throughout their lives.

[02:42:41] And I think that's incredible.

[02:43:10] It's really hard to get into because it just feels super generic.

[02:43:14] And it doesn't feel inspired at all.

[02:43:19] This level is definitely my second least favorite in the game.

[02:43:22] Really?

[02:43:23] Yeah.

[02:43:24] Wow.

[02:43:24] That's like this is probably my third favorite.

[02:43:27] Yeah.

[02:43:27] I really like this game a lot.

[02:43:29] I really like this level specifically a lot.

[02:43:31] Yeah.

[02:43:32] The whole if you don't mind, Dave, just like going off on the tangent of the cheating wife, the whole cheating wife bit or the cheating husband cheating like scandal was really fucking good in classic.

[02:43:43] And again, like to make the comparison, Tom Clancy, Clive Klusler, like you as case are walking in and you're supposed to be scouting out this area.

[02:43:50] And then you hear somebody's like, oh, I just saw the governor and he and his wife were, you know, having smiles through clenched teeth.

[02:43:57] And she's over there drowning her saris over at the bar.

[02:43:59] You better go talk to her.

[02:44:00] I'm like, oh, fuck.

[02:44:01] Yeah.

[02:44:01] Let me go get the fucking tea from this lady.

[02:44:03] This is the canonical one, I think.

[02:44:05] Yeah.

[02:44:06] I feel like this is like the best from what you described.

[02:44:08] Like, yeah, maybe brutal murdering, stabbing and stuff.

[02:44:11] Cool.

[02:44:11] Cool shit.

[02:44:12] But like you go over to the white espionage.

[02:44:15] Pure espionage.

[02:44:15] As you're talking to her and she you're like, you're like basically pretending to be a journalist.

[02:44:19] You're like, yeah, I'm trying to get a photo with the husband, blah, blah, blah.

[02:44:22] And then she makes a comment about him.

[02:44:25] Oh, well, you'll find him over with the bitch that's half his age.

[02:44:29] You know, he routinely forgets that I'm his wife.

[02:44:31] And I'm like, OK, OK.

[02:44:33] All right, lady.

[02:44:34] That's that's cool.

[02:44:35] And so you go and you find out.

[02:44:37] There's a little conspiracy happening.

[02:44:39] Yeah, there's literally a conspiracy.

[02:44:41] It's like it's like a conspiracy with a conspiracy.

[02:44:43] Like you find out from his wife that the governor is having an affair.

[02:44:46] You're given like you in the previous mission on the in the rook mission, your friend sets

[02:44:53] up this high tech camera with a sensor and a radar in it.

[02:44:56] And so you're able to like detect things with with this camera and track where all the enemies

[02:45:01] are moving, which is pretty cool.

[02:45:02] It's kind of an Assassin's Creed like style.

[02:45:06] Yeah.

[02:45:06] Mark the targets type beat.

[02:45:08] But then like you go in and you realize that the the aid that is working with the governor

[02:45:14] that he's cheating on his wife with, she is actually having sex with him and recording

[02:45:20] it in order to extort him for money.

[02:45:24] And but like but then they know that the timeline has accelerated for some reason.

[02:45:28] And they're like, oh, like we have to we have to extort him now or else we're not going

[02:45:32] to get anything.

[02:45:33] And he's just going to he's just going to get away or he's going to pay.

[02:45:35] He'll pay whatever we want now.

[02:45:37] But if we wait, then we're shit out of luck.

[02:45:39] And then you have to sleuth outside.

[02:45:41] Yeah.

[02:45:41] You got to go outside and get a cold, snowy area.

[02:45:43] Not only that, you have to pickpocket him for his fucking valet ticket and then give it

[02:45:48] to the guy so that you can get his keys so that you can open his trunk and get the it's

[02:45:52] so fucking and then CIA agents show up and you're like, what the fuck?

[02:45:56] They're looking for me already.

[02:45:58] What is going on?

[02:45:58] There's so much.

[02:46:05] Again, through clenched teeth, she's like, yeah, honey, isn't this great?

[02:46:09] This reporter cleaned up your mess for you, didn't you?

[02:46:12] Isn't that great?

[02:46:13] He cleaned up your own fucking problem.

[02:46:15] Why don't you come over here and get a picture with me?

[02:46:18] And then like she's just like saying all of these like backhanded things to him.

[02:46:21] And I loved it.

[02:46:22] Yeah.

[02:46:22] And that's how you get the pictures.

[02:46:24] And that's it.

[02:46:25] That's other.

[02:46:25] But they're obviously mad.

[02:46:27] Yeah.

[02:46:27] They're so awesome.

[02:46:29] Yeah.

[02:46:29] Fucking awesome.

[02:46:30] This is this is good shit.

[02:46:32] I mean, I honestly playing this makes me want to go play Hitman 3 because I've heard

[02:46:36] Hitman 3 is arguably like one of the best stealth espionage games.

[02:46:40] And I think I own it either through it's accessible through Game Pass or maybe it came through PlayStation

[02:46:47] Plus at some point.

[02:46:48] But yeah, need to give a shot.

[02:46:51] Next up, hunting season.

[02:46:54] We're on our way to Saddam Hussein's one of his mansions looking for a weapon of mass

[02:47:00] destruction.

[02:47:00] But the local.

[02:47:04] Iraqis or something are trying to blow it up themselves.

[02:47:08] So, no, it's the coalition forces from Desert Storm are coming through and they're going

[02:47:13] to like completely eviscerate the palace.

[02:47:15] So it's a race between your team and like the Desert Storm Coalition to see who gets there

[02:47:20] first.

[02:47:21] Yeah, we team up with the British force, I think.

[02:47:24] Yeah.

[02:47:24] And we have to blow up all these little rocket launcher car things.

[02:47:29] And this is Far Cry.

[02:47:31] Disgust.

[02:47:32] Yeah.

[02:47:33] It's Far Cry.

[02:47:33] Also, you boys do nothing but like love Gears.

[02:47:38] You keep lots of praise upon Gears of War 4 and 5.

[02:47:41] Does this not give you like Gears 5 when they get to the open world section and she's got

[02:47:46] like the paraglider thing?

[02:47:48] Okay.

[02:47:49] It's literally the same thing.

[02:47:50] Yeah.

[02:47:50] You got the little Jeep and you can drive around.

[02:47:52] This was my release for the level.

[02:47:53] I don't know if you guys realized, but you can like take their trucks too and you can

[02:47:56] drive around.

[02:47:56] Yeah, you can.

[02:47:56] Oh, really?

[02:47:57] Interesting.

[02:47:58] Yeah.

[02:47:58] That's cool.

[02:48:00] But RC cars return here because they give you a crap load in all these supply cases

[02:48:04] and you can just drive them up to the missile trucks and just blow them up from, you know,

[02:48:08] 90 yards away without actually fighting anyone.

[02:48:11] How thoroughly did you guys play through this level?

[02:48:14] I did all of it.

[02:48:14] Sped run.

[02:48:15] Not long.

[02:48:16] Yeah.

[02:48:17] So Nick did all of it.

[02:48:18] I did all of it as well.

[02:48:19] And so, yeah.

[02:48:20] Yeah.

[02:48:21] Rachel quit after the last mission.

[02:48:23] So she's, she's just experiencing through us.

[02:48:26] I was going to play more last night, but then you were asleep when I got home and I was

[02:48:32] like, I'll just not.

[02:48:34] So this mission, this, what's really cool about this mission is that there are three primary

[02:48:38] objectives, which is destroying the missiles.

[02:48:41] But then there are a ton of other secondary objectives.

[02:48:44] There are three different like categories of secondary objectives.

[02:48:48] Which I should have put in here, but I didn't.

[02:48:51] But basically you're going to destroy a outpost.

[02:48:54] You will find a, what is it?

[02:49:00] Supply cache?

[02:49:01] Supply cache, yes.

[02:49:02] Yeah.

[02:49:02] Supply cache.

[02:49:03] And then the third thing is destroying a SAM.

[02:49:07] Yeah, the SAMs.

[02:49:08] The SCUDs are the main objectives, but the SAMs are like the tertiary objectives.

[02:49:12] So you can have air support.

[02:49:13] And there's also a Delta team on the ground that you have to save because they're getting like

[02:49:17] basic triangulated by the Iraqi forces.

[02:49:21] Yeah, that was really cool.

[02:49:22] And then by rescuing them, you unlock the tactical ability to call in a helicopter with a fucking

[02:49:28] chain gun.

[02:49:30] Yeah.

[02:49:30] Chopper gunner.

[02:49:31] Am I wrong?

[02:49:32] I didn't get any of those call-ins.

[02:49:35] That shit was so cool.

[02:49:36] Like, Nave, like when you go into the chopper and you start shooting, they're playing a fucking

[02:49:41] metal soundtrack and it's the coolest thing that I have ever.

[02:49:44] I was like, holy shit.

[02:49:45] Like, this is awesome.

[02:49:47] This feels like doom right now.

[02:49:48] Especially on veteran.

[02:49:50] It's like, oh my god.

[02:49:51] Thank god.

[02:49:52] I can do something and not die instantly.

[02:49:54] It feels so awesome.

[02:49:56] Yeah.

[02:49:57] But yeah, so like as you're going around, you're unlocking more and more different like score

[02:50:01] streaks basically for multiplayer.

[02:50:03] So you get the chopper gunner.

[02:50:04] You get the mortar strike.

[02:50:07] The mortar.

[02:50:07] I use the mortar more than anything else.

[02:50:09] What is the other one?

[02:50:11] There's a third one.

[02:50:12] It's the stealth bomber.

[02:50:14] Oh yeah, the stealth bomber.

[02:50:17] So yeah, so it's really awesome that you get to kind of like build up this kind of arsenal.

[02:50:25] And this is a big open area.

[02:50:27] But the cool thing about it is whenever you go into the next mission, the cradle, you get

[02:50:31] to take those killstreaks over.

[02:50:33] Which the cradle is a smaller mission.

[02:50:36] It's basically just like the, like just a epilogue of this mission.

[02:50:41] Storming the castle.

[02:50:42] This mission is basically to build up resource.

[02:50:44] It's basically Mass Effect 2.

[02:50:47] Yeah.

[02:50:48] Before the, before the collector ship.

[02:50:51] Yeah.

[02:50:51] Dude.

[02:50:52] It's so funny the weird inspirations this game gets.

[02:50:57] Like, like you can just draw so many parallels to so many different games.

[02:51:01] But yeah, this is basically Mass Effect 2 going into the next mission, the cradle, which is

[02:51:06] where you go and figure out what the fuck Saddam is hiding.

[02:51:11] Yeah.

[02:51:11] Turns out we fought our way in and he has a sample of the cradle.

[02:51:18] Also, for dear listeners who might be confused about military propaganda, Saddam Hussein didn't

[02:51:24] actually have access to weapons of mass destruction that was a lie by the Bush administration in

[02:51:29] order to secure oil assets in the Middle East.

[02:51:31] Just so you know.

[02:51:32] Yeah.

[02:51:33] This is a different, this is a different timeline.

[02:51:35] Alternate universe.

[02:51:37] Where he actually did have a weapon of mass destruction.

[02:51:40] Yeah.

[02:51:40] Which it could be the same timeline because it gets covered up.

[02:51:43] It could be.

[02:51:44] You're right.

[02:51:45] It could actually happen.

[02:51:46] This could be real.

[02:51:47] This could be real.

[02:51:48] Who's to say?

[02:51:48] This could be a documentary.

[02:51:50] All right.

[02:51:51] But we find the cradle and we're like, oh no, they could have more, but we need more

[02:51:55] information.

[02:51:55] So we need to go back to where was created in a CIA black site.

[02:52:00] First things first, the cradle has the first kill box for me on veteran where the beginning

[02:52:08] of it is impossible.

[02:52:11] Really?

[02:52:12] Fucking impossible.

[02:52:13] You instantly die.

[02:52:14] You die within a third of a second.

[02:52:17] And I, you just, every time you, listen, every time you die, you have to start from the beginning

[02:52:25] and drive in the fucking Jeep and drive up to the beginning.

[02:52:28] And then as soon as you jump out, instantly die.

[02:52:31] And it's like, holy shit, what the fuck do I do?

[02:52:34] And then eventually I just kept sliding in different directions.

[02:52:38] Eventually I slid to the left.

[02:52:40] I survived long enough to be able to hold up on the D pad to call in the chopper gunner,

[02:52:45] which you can't die during.

[02:52:47] And then kill the fuckers that are near me.

[02:52:50] So that dude, it was very frustrating.

[02:52:55] This was the first kill box.

[02:52:56] Not the hardest.

[02:52:57] You didn't have to do that.

[02:52:58] You didn't have to do that to yourself, Nave.

[02:53:00] You could have played on easy.

[02:53:01] Well, this is the thing.

[02:53:03] Exactly.

[02:53:03] We have to get multiple perspectives.

[02:53:05] And I knew.

[02:53:06] That's true.

[02:53:06] That Philip wasn't going to play on veterans.

[02:53:08] Hell no.

[02:53:10] But yeah.

[02:53:11] But we get the cradle.

[02:53:13] And I don't think we uncover its history with this point.

[02:53:16] But we do know that Adler's like, yep, I've seen this before.

[02:53:19] I know where to go.

[02:53:21] Not happy about this.

[02:53:23] Yeah.

[02:53:23] He's like, this is not going to be a good one.

[02:53:25] This is the realization that it's not like a WND, like a nuke.

[02:53:29] They just realize it's a bioweapon, which is arguably way worse than a nuke.

[02:53:33] Yeah.

[02:53:35] So we fight our way out.

[02:53:37] And you have a really epic escape as you jump on helicopters before the place is finally bombed and blown up.

[02:53:44] Anything more to know?

[02:53:45] But the mission is pretty cut and dry.

[02:53:47] Yeah.

[02:53:47] Very simple.

[02:53:49] All right.

[02:53:50] Next up, Emergence.

[02:53:51] Okay.

[02:53:51] This one was wild.

[02:53:53] This whole mission.

[02:53:54] This was the mission.

[02:53:55] This is the mission, dude.

[02:53:56] This is the mission.

[02:53:57] Dude.

[02:53:57] I knew immediately when Nave had said this before, I had seen him talking in the goof troop about it.

[02:54:02] Did you play the mission yet?

[02:54:03] Or he's like, he was like, where are you at?

[02:54:05] And I knew he was waiting.

[02:54:06] As I was playing this, I was like, this is what he's fucking talking about.

[02:54:10] This shit is so cool.

[02:54:13] Yeah.

[02:54:14] So Emergence, it is an immersive sim level.

[02:54:17] Kind of like, I see you put prey in here, Nave.

[02:54:20] Yeah.

[02:54:20] It's also like doom at the same time.

[02:54:23] It's like doom, pray, a classic because you walk over there and it's like, hey, you need four colored badges.

[02:54:30] And I'm like, colored badges are doing evil.

[02:54:32] It's resonating evil.

[02:54:33] Yeah.

[02:54:34] There's so many.

[02:54:35] Dude, it's like, it's unbelievable.

[02:54:37] It's unbelievable.

[02:54:37] I have such fucking immense respect for Raven, dude.

[02:54:42] Like, it's unbelievable that they snuck this shit into a Call of Duty game.

[02:54:47] It's unbelievable.

[02:54:48] In an alternate universe, we could be getting a Wolverine game made by Raven.

[02:54:54] Rachel, it looks like you're decompensating over there.

[02:54:56] Are you okay?

[02:54:57] Yep.

[02:54:57] I'm just looking at the Slender puzzle with mannequins chasing you.

[02:55:01] Yeah.

[02:55:02] And thinking, oh, who's Doctor Who?

[02:55:04] That's great.

[02:55:05] Because who else did they fucking rip that up?

[02:55:09] Oh, the stone angels.

[02:55:11] But they've, yeah, they've done that in so many things.

[02:55:14] I was just playing.

[02:55:14] In so many things.

[02:55:15] Well, yeah, they've done this.

[02:55:18] They did this also in Little Nightmares.

[02:55:20] The whole, there was a Little Nightmares section where you're going through.

[02:55:22] And if you don't have the flashlight on the mannequins, they'll start moving and try to kill you.

[02:55:30] It's everywhere.

[02:55:32] And it's not original.

[02:55:33] And it's only cool because it's in a Call of Duty game.

[02:55:37] Well, no, they did it in Super Mario World 2.

[02:55:40] That's what I'm saying.

[02:55:41] It's not original at all.

[02:55:43] And I feel like people are excited about it because it's in a Call of Duty game.

[02:55:49] And because Call of Duty is like, oh, we only shoot guns.

[02:55:54] And they're like, oh, well, now there's these mannequins that are stalking you.

[02:55:58] Who fucking cares?

[02:55:59] That's in so many things already.

[02:56:04] Which we didn't highlight.

[02:56:05] The whole premise of this level is that Case makes it into the facility and gets gassed.

[02:56:11] And then starts going through a fever dream.

[02:56:13] So he's tripping balls this entire time.

[02:56:17] Nothing about this game feels original.

[02:56:19] This is the thing.

[02:56:19] Is that he's literally experiencing the fucking thing that's going to happen to everybody.

[02:56:25] Right?

[02:56:26] Rachel, arguably you could say that this is iterative of a lot.

[02:56:31] I think that what's significant about this is that, yeah, the elements, the core of parts of this level aren't unique to specifically.

[02:56:40] They're not reinventing the wheel here.

[02:56:42] What's cool from my perspective is the way that they're doing it.

[02:56:47] It's the way that they're setting this up.

[02:56:49] You're like, holy shit.

[02:56:50] Okay, I get a mini map again.

[02:56:52] I'm in a multicolored bio lab area.

[02:56:54] This is Resident Evil 2 all over again.

[02:56:58] This is, again, what they're talking about.

[02:57:01] You're playing these tapes where they have this quirky, it's very much Bioshock inspired, very much control inspired.

[02:57:08] Both of those games are very iterative of what they try to accomplish.

[02:57:13] The whole thing just feels like, they're just like, look at all these things that we know that you love.

[02:57:19] We put it all in this game, in this Call of Duty game, so that you guys will love it even more.

[02:57:25] That's what the whole thing feels like.

[02:57:27] And as someone who doesn't care about Call of Duty, it just feels very generic.

[02:57:33] Well, it makes sense, but if you look at it from a pessimistic point of view, if you attribute the least good interpretation of all of this, then yeah, I can understand how you come to that conclusion.

[02:57:52] But the more you understand the intricacies of all of these little things that are happening throughout this level, it genuinely is made with love, it feels like.

[02:58:03] And I want to...

[02:58:04] I feel like just from a guttural level, most gamers that have played a lot of these different things can tell homage from ripoff.

[02:58:17] You know what I mean?

[02:58:19] Like that gravel hook was pure ripoff.

[02:58:21] They're just trying to get Halo.

[02:58:23] Yeah, they really wanted that Halo Infinite money.

[02:58:27] Goddamn.

[02:58:28] Yeah, no, it's just like, I feel like they're...

[02:58:30] Like Nave saying, there's a difference between being pandering, and there's also a different gradient of being iterative.

[02:58:37] And I feel like Raven is leaning a lot more on being iterative in this level.

[02:58:42] That's fun.

[02:58:43] Also, playing through it didn't...

[02:58:46] Took me like 30 minutes.

[02:58:48] So it's like you get all of this stuff injected into your gameplay experience so quickly.

[02:58:53] You're like, oh wow, I recognize that.

[02:58:55] I recognize that.

[02:58:56] That's really cool.

[02:58:56] Well, at the same time, when the zombies start coming out, I was like, oh, this is the level that justifies.

[02:59:02] Because that's something that I never understood in Black Ops.

[02:59:04] Why are we playing a fucking war simulator, and then we're just randomly fighting zombies?

[02:59:09] Because it was 2008, and they were like, oh, well, the fucking kids love zombies.

[02:59:13] The whole thing that's coming in suddenly is so jarring.

[02:59:17] You just don't understand that.

[02:59:19] That was the incredible move.

[02:59:20] Yeah, but I mean, it was like, this makes sense.

[02:59:22] This is like saying, oh, well, they're the hallucinations, and it's the bioweapon that's making him see the zombies.

[02:59:27] But it makes sense contextually now, like why you're going off and playing a horrid zombie minigame on the other side of the game.

[02:59:34] But I also think it rewards you for understanding the references, I think.

[02:59:41] I wanted to be very clear that I don't get the references.

[02:59:45] And that is why I have such a strong, like, I have my own references that I'm coming up with because I don't get the references in the game.

[02:59:54] So I'm like, okay, I'm trying to reach for things like different war movies and shit like that.

[03:00:02] And war movies are a lot better than this game, in my mind.

[03:00:08] Like, speaking of movies, it's like whenever you're watching, like, it and you don't understand.

[03:00:16] It's a bad movie.

[03:00:16] It's like you don't understand the significance.

[03:00:18] Bad choice.

[03:00:20] Bad choice.

[03:00:20] Okay, whatever.

[03:00:21] Like, The Shining.

[03:00:22] How about that?

[03:00:23] So when you're watching The Shining and you don't understand the significance of, like, what came before.

[03:00:28] Like, there's so many things, like, that are building on top of each other.

[03:00:33] And it's going to be lost upon people who are experiencing The Shining as, like, the first thing that they really watched that was, like, thriller but also, like, introspective.

[03:00:46] You know what I mean?

[03:00:47] You know what this reminds me of?

[03:00:48] This reminds me of me going back and showing my ex-girlfriend 1979 Alien for the first time back in 2021.

[03:01:03] And she was like, this is fucking dumb.

[03:01:05] And that game literally, like, changed my entire – that movie, rather, changed my entire personality, like, for the better, in my opinion.

[03:01:13] And I love Ridley Scott.

[03:01:14] You know, fuck him for, you know, doing what he did with Alien Covenant, right?

[03:01:17] But, like, that's – I understand what you're saying here where it's, like – I don't know.

[03:01:22] It's, like, one of those things where this is – if you're experiencing this contextually from today's standard based on, like, what you're – you know, what you've experienced from now not being a shooter, like, player, all that other stuff.

[03:01:36] I understand where you're coming from on that.

[03:01:38] But, like, I feel like as somebody who has played a good – a fair, healthy number, certainly not as many as Knave.

[03:01:45] Maybe not as much as Philip either.

[03:01:46] But, like, as somebody who has played former Call of Duties and other, like, war shooter-styled games, like, this does cut the gradient a lot better in terms of, like, make – the writing is modern.

[03:01:59] And, like, it's just – I think it's – yeah.

[03:02:02] Like, I can respect what they've done.

[03:02:06] I respect that he's super excited because I live with him, so I hear him talk about this constantly.

[03:02:13] Right, right.

[03:02:14] And he's been super pumped about this.

[03:02:16] He's been like, wow, this is fucking great.

[03:02:18] And I really did try to go into it with, like, a – okay, I want to be excited about this.

[03:02:25] I'm going to, like, be in a good mood and I'm going to, like, do this thing.

[03:02:31] And I was at first.

[03:02:33] And then just the more I played it, the more I was just like, this is just so uninspired to me.

[03:02:43] But I fully acknowledge that it is because I don't have all of the references.

[03:02:51] It just – it makes me insane because this is the most inspired that Call of Duty has ever been.

[03:02:58] And that makes me so sad because the rest of the series must be so fucking bad.

[03:03:03] Holy shit.

[03:03:03] No, they just play it really straight.

[03:03:05] Where they're like, what if it's just a generic war movie?

[03:03:08] Yeah, it's like –

[03:03:09] And that's so dull to me.

[03:03:12] All of the World at War games are just the thin red line, the video game.

[03:03:16] That's all it is.

[03:03:18] No.

[03:03:19] Well, that's what people wanted at the time.

[03:03:21] It is.

[03:03:22] But now we're gamers with 40 years of games under our belt in our 30 years of life or whatever because we go back and play all the old shit.

[03:03:30] So all of a sudden we get – like, we have this full education that they're basically playing on.

[03:03:36] And so they can be like, eh, see this?

[03:03:38] What if we made a level that's just like this one whole $60 game crammed into 30 minutes?

[03:03:44] It's not even like that.

[03:03:45] I think it's like what if we made a part of this level this game?

[03:03:50] And then what if this part of this level was this game?

[03:03:53] And I think emergence is like the epitome of that.

[03:03:56] Well, do you think it devalues it for being so all over the place?

[03:04:01] If – I don't know.

[03:04:03] Because if Rachel had played this level, I would have loved to see what her reaction to it would have been.

[03:04:09] But I already spoiled this level for her because I assumed she wasn't going to play the campaign.

[03:04:14] So I was not – I'm not only disappointed in myself for spoiling it for her but also disappointed that she didn't even make it this far into the campaign.

[03:04:23] But like, man –

[03:04:27] I had other things to do, man.

[03:04:28] I had magic to play.

[03:04:29] Indeed, it's – I feel like exactly what this campaign is, the variety, is what grips me so fucking deeply, right?

[03:04:42] Same.

[03:04:43] One thing that I just don't understand is there were a lot – I mean, I went through a lot of Steam reviews and not only Steam reviews but Metacritic reviews just like when I was going through the – for the notes for this.

[03:04:57] And so many people kind of like were like, oh, it's a generic and easily predictable Call of Duty campaign just like always.

[03:05:08] And I'm just like, what fucking game did you play?

[03:05:11] Yeah, like I would have predicted none of this.

[03:05:14] None of it.

[03:05:15] None of it.

[03:05:15] Exactly the first level maybe.

[03:05:17] I was literally just imagining from the beginning of this game that it was going to be the – what was it?

[03:05:22] It was the – they made the Jack Ryan show on Amazon Prime.

[03:05:28] You want to talk about uninspired and fucking the most derivative piece of dog shit.

[03:05:33] It's like the Jack Ryan TV show.

[03:05:35] Oh, he's a sullen, beat-up veteran who has to go undercover for the CIA and go hunt down these operatives for this paramilitary group.

[03:05:46] And it ended up not – it ended up not being that.

[03:05:50] But that's the thing is that that's what's cool about Black Ops 6 is that it ended up like starting that and then fucking veering hard left and being like, nah, I'm going to do my own thing.

[03:05:59] I don't even think it just fears hard left.

[03:06:02] I think it swerves all over the goddamn street.

[03:06:05] This thing would be – it would have –

[03:06:07] Yeah.

[03:06:09] It's endangering the entire population on the fucking road right now.

[03:06:12] I just don't think it's that deep, you know?

[03:06:15] It doesn't veer that way for me.

[03:06:18] Well, let's keep talking about emergence.

[03:06:20] So we have – we get the grappling hook, which – fucking grappling hook, baby!

[03:06:24] Grappling hook in a video game.

[03:06:26] Did it feel good to you guys?

[03:06:28] It was a little janky.

[03:06:30] Yeah.

[03:06:31] It didn't hit the bit locked on.

[03:06:32] Well, I agree.

[03:06:33] But I enjoyed grappling hook.

[03:06:35] But it was there.

[03:06:36] It saves you.

[03:06:37] It will save you a life.

[03:06:38] It does.

[03:06:38] It did save me.

[03:06:39] It saved me multiple times.

[03:06:41] Yeah.

[03:06:41] So it is literally – it's the Batman grappling hook, not the Halo Infinite grappling hook.

[03:06:46] So you're not going to like –

[03:06:46] There's no inertia.

[03:06:47] I wish it was Halo.

[03:06:48] Is it similar to the Apex one because that's the one that I know?

[03:06:52] I don't know.

[03:06:53] No.

[03:06:53] You look at a spot and you instantly go there.

[03:06:56] I don't want it.

[03:06:57] Like in a straight line.

[03:06:58] I don't want it.

[03:06:59] Okay.

[03:07:00] There's no gravity.

[03:07:02] Yeah.

[03:07:02] So you fight – you have five boss fights in this level, which – boss fights in a Call of Duty game.

[03:07:08] What the fuck?

[03:07:09] My Gundam just fell over from my scream.

[03:07:13] Boss fights in a Call of Duty game, dude.

[03:07:17] The first guy, he's okay.

[03:07:19] He's a grappling hook tutorial.

[03:07:21] He's also, I'm pretty sure, a guy that appears in Call of Duty Zombies.

[03:07:25] But it's not the chimera model.

[03:07:28] It's like a dude.

[03:07:29] Like a dude shooting the same chimera attack at you.

[03:07:32] Yeah.

[03:07:33] Nave, you played Tree Pang earlier this year, right?

[03:07:36] Oh, yeah.

[03:07:37] Did this game – or at least like maybe in this level or even levels later on when you get a shotgun, did that not remind you a little bit of Tree Pang?

[03:07:45] Dude, the dragon breath feels awesome.

[03:07:48] Yeah.

[03:07:48] Yes, I agree.

[03:07:49] But I think Tree Pang's shotgun is way better than this game.

[03:07:52] There's no shot because I watched him play Tree Pang and I've watched him play this game.

[03:07:57] And he was so excited for Tree Pang.

[03:08:00] He was standing up.

[03:08:02] He was sitting – he was standing a foot like 18 inches from the television.

[03:08:08] Burning his retinas out.

[03:08:10] At no point has he done that with Call of Duty.

[03:08:13] Tree Pang, though, I could not get his attention.

[03:08:16] He was so fucking pumped for that game.

[03:08:19] That game was cool.

[03:08:20] That game was cool.

[03:08:21] I'll give that game that.

[03:08:23] This game?

[03:08:24] No.

[03:08:26] There's a reason why –

[03:08:28] We're basing it off of that.

[03:08:29] Call of Duty Black Ops 6 got an A.

[03:08:32] It's the top of A, by the way.

[03:08:34] Spoiler alert.

[03:08:35] The very top, tippity top of A.

[03:08:37] Almost S.

[03:08:38] But Tree Pang is an easy, easy slam dunk S.

[03:08:41] Like, that is just a – that's an endorsement of Tree Pang.

[03:08:45] Because I fucking –

[03:08:47] But yeah.

[03:08:48] He was so excited for that game.

[03:08:51] Chimera Dude was cool, but he was basically the tutorial for the grappling hook, right?

[03:08:57] Yeah.

[03:08:58] So we go to the next guy.

[03:08:59] The next guy is the cannon dude.

[03:09:01] Well, he – I mean, if you're going – like, you – I think after the Chimera Dude, you have to do first.

[03:09:06] But then the other three, you can go in any order.

[03:09:08] But it makes the most sense to go to the guy closest to you.

[03:09:13] Well, no, it doesn't.

[03:09:14] Because when you walk out, you don't notice the grappling hook point directly above you.

[03:09:18] So instead, you walk all the way across the hall.

[03:09:21] And so I fought the minigun dude next after I got the grapple hook.

[03:09:26] Oh.

[03:09:26] That's wild.

[03:09:27] I didn't know that you had to go upwards to go to the two – like, the blue and the green sectors that –

[03:09:33] Yeah.

[03:09:33] The door was locked, so I'm like, I guess I just come back later.

[03:09:36] They're forcing me in this path.

[03:09:37] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[03:09:38] You both went to the fucking minigun dude afterwards?

[03:09:41] Yep.

[03:09:41] Yeah.

[03:09:41] So none of those can make sense.

[03:09:45] Let's talk about the minigun dude then.

[03:09:46] That's fine.

[03:09:48] Oh, he's just a minigun dude.

[03:09:49] Well, yeah.

[03:09:50] Okay.

[03:09:50] He's the least interesting guy.

[03:09:51] What is this bathysphere reference?

[03:09:54] Who is this man?

[03:09:55] In Bioshock, the things in the water.

[03:09:58] The bathyspheres are the things that take you to different parts of the areas in Bioshock.

[03:10:02] Oh, okay.

[03:10:03] That is the only time I've ever heard the word bathysphere.

[03:10:06] Until now, where I have heard it in Call of Duty Black Ops 6.

[03:10:11] Where the guy is in the bathysphere.

[03:10:14] Yeah, that's not a thing that you would imagine you would hear.

[03:10:16] Also, what is he doing?

[03:10:18] What did they just put him in there?

[03:10:19] He's just hanging out.

[03:10:20] It's a hallucination.

[03:10:22] It is a hallucination.

[03:10:23] You're right.

[03:10:23] You're right.

[03:10:23] It is a hallucination.

[03:10:24] This is all in Case's mind.

[03:10:27] A bathysphere, by the way, is a spherical steel vessel for use in undersea observation.

[03:10:34] Yeah.

[03:10:35] I mean, that's exactly what he's doing.

[03:10:37] He's chilling in that sphere.

[03:10:38] That's what it is.

[03:10:38] In the water.

[03:10:39] Yeah.

[03:10:40] All right, so let's go back up here to my canon.

[03:10:44] All right, so we're going to the canon dude.

[03:10:47] Who, whenever you go in there, it is literally, literally.

[03:10:52] I mean the word literally in the literal sense.

[03:10:55] A scene from control.

[03:10:58] Remedies control.

[03:10:59] This whole level is very remedy coded.

[03:11:02] Yeah, it is.

[03:11:04] But this part is insanely remed.

[03:11:08] It feels so good.

[03:11:10] Please, Nikai.

[03:11:11] I mean, you don't make any coffee.

[03:11:12] You don't make any coffee.

[03:11:14] But there is coffee.

[03:11:15] There is coffee.

[03:11:15] You can go into the cafeteria.

[03:11:17] Yeah.

[03:11:19] Oh, no.

[03:11:19] Hot dogs in the cafeteria.

[03:11:21] You have to go collect the letters and then put them in the box.

[03:11:27] And you got to go do the thing.

[03:11:29] And then all of a sudden.

[03:11:30] Do middle room duty?

[03:11:31] I thought, okay, so you talk about the mannequins being blah, blah, blah, blah.

[03:11:34] Like they're in literally everything else.

[03:11:36] I thought the way that they introduced them was really cool because it, first of all, wasn't expecting it.

[03:11:42] This shouldn't be in a Call of Duty game.

[03:11:44] This has never been in a Call of Duty game before.

[03:11:46] And then I go in here and then I'm like, oh, this is a 1950s setting where it's like the Gilded Era.

[03:11:53] They have mannequins to show people how they're supposed to operate.

[03:11:56] All right, no big deal.

[03:11:57] And all of a sudden I turn around and I hear the skittering in my headphones.

[03:12:02] And then they're like behind me.

[03:12:04] Just because it hasn't been in a Call of Duty game doesn't make it original or interesting.

[03:12:10] Well, here's another thing.

[03:12:11] It's the thing for me.

[03:12:12] But the context of it in the actual level itself was interesting.

[03:12:18] I didn't play that level.

[03:12:20] He played that level.

[03:12:22] So I only know what he told me about that level.

[03:12:24] What was incredible about this part was whenever I grabbed the thing.

[03:12:29] I grabbed like three files before I even put any in the front.

[03:12:33] So I grabbed the first file and then ran over and grabbed the second file.

[03:12:37] And then I turned around and saw mannequins behind me.

[03:12:40] And I was like, oh, that's adorable.

[03:12:42] There's spawning mannequins around me whenever I grabbed the file.

[03:12:46] That's adorable.

[03:12:47] It's spooky.

[03:12:48] Ooh, crazy.

[03:12:49] And then I run over to the third one and I hear noises.

[03:12:51] And by the time I almost get to the third one, I turn around.

[03:12:55] And there's mannequins behind me again.

[03:12:57] There's like 80 of them.

[03:12:58] And I'm like, I don't – did I run past me?

[03:13:01] I don't know.

[03:13:02] And so I turned back around and started – and grabbed the next one.

[03:13:05] And then I got hit.

[03:13:06] And I was like, ah!

[03:13:08] And I turned around and there's mannequins.

[03:13:10] And I'm like, okay.

[03:13:12] Game's fucking with me.

[03:13:13] So I ran back.

[03:13:14] Did you not immediately start shooting them?

[03:13:16] No, I didn't realize.

[03:13:18] I literally didn't realize.

[03:13:19] And so I kept –

[03:13:20] I guess I just played Little Nightmares too frequently.

[03:13:23] Because I had the three things and so I put them all in.

[03:13:26] And I was just sprinting around everywhere.

[03:13:28] And I was using my grappling hook.

[03:13:29] That's the thing is that I was like literally min-maxing my movement.

[03:13:33] So I was grappling and hooking around.

[03:13:34] You were trying to do the Call of Duty lasso.

[03:13:36] I'm grappling and hooking around.

[03:13:37] I didn't know I was in danger.

[03:13:39] And so I thought the game was fucking with me when it hit me.

[03:13:42] And so I put the three things in.

[03:13:44] And then I grapple hooked around.

[03:13:46] And then I was like, ooh, there's another one.

[03:13:47] And then I ran to the thing and put it back in.

[03:13:50] And this is when I realized that the fucking mannequins were chasing me around the whole goddamn place.

[03:13:55] Because I put it in and I turned around because I knew where the next one was.

[03:13:59] And suddenly there was a bunch of mannequins right there.

[03:14:02] And I'm like, wait a minute.

[03:14:05] One thing we haven't touched on too much, but the sound design in this game is excellent.

[03:14:11] And this was like briefly before this.

[03:14:13] I put on my headphones to play through it.

[03:14:15] And not even just the spooky level that's part of Emergence.

[03:14:20] But even the earlier levels where just the way that they had the feeling of the jets that are flying overhead.

[03:14:27] Or if you're inside of the buggy and you're going across the sand dunes.

[03:14:31] All of that immersive sound design.

[03:14:33] S tier.

[03:14:34] Excellent.

[03:14:34] No notes there.

[03:14:36] It's really annoying since I'm a one cupper.

[03:14:38] So then I turn my character and I just can't hear people anymore.

[03:14:42] Why just one cup?

[03:14:44] What do you have to hear?

[03:14:45] So I can talk to my wife whenever I'm playing.

[03:14:49] I was just thinking this in case the kids are bleeding out or something like that.

[03:14:53] But then, you know.

[03:14:53] I think we're going to revive.

[03:14:56] Oh no, did we lose?

[03:14:57] All right.

[03:14:58] Yeah.

[03:14:58] So we end up dropping off all the things.

[03:15:01] Cannon dude shows up.

[03:15:02] And he just runs around in circles.

[03:15:05] Right?

[03:15:06] With this guy.

[03:15:07] He just kills shit out of him.

[03:15:08] Yeah.

[03:15:09] Easy.

[03:15:09] Next up, they have a prop hunt monster.

[03:15:12] Which was funny, I guess.

[03:15:14] Because they show up and I'm like, they're really doing this right now?

[03:15:16] Because it's a prey monster.

[03:15:21] God, I hope it's not saying anything important.

[03:15:23] Yeah.

[03:15:25] Oh, can you not hear me?

[03:15:26] No.

[03:15:28] You're back.

[03:15:28] You're back now.

[03:15:29] All right.

[03:15:30] Okay.

[03:15:30] No, I was just talking about the prop hunt monster.

[03:15:32] Okay.

[03:15:33] Yes.

[03:15:33] God.

[03:15:34] God.

[03:15:35] This guy's cool.

[03:15:37] Let's talk about it.

[03:15:40] Yeah.

[03:15:40] So if you're unfamiliar, prop hunt is a popular game mode in like Counter-Strike maybe where

[03:15:46] it started.

[03:15:47] I don't remember.

[03:15:47] It's Call of Duty.

[03:15:48] Also Fortnite.

[03:15:50] Yeah.

[03:15:50] It's a big thing again.

[03:15:52] I mean, not like.

[03:15:53] It's a thing.

[03:15:54] But the whole premise is like you just pretend to be a normal prop in the area like a roll

[03:15:58] of toilet paper.

[03:15:59] And then you just hide there and someone comes and finds you.

[03:16:03] And this one is a spooky, spooky alien.

[03:16:07] And you got to find him.

[03:16:09] That's it.

[03:16:10] The alien literally looks like the substance that is in Prey.

[03:16:16] Yeah.

[03:16:16] But yeah, there's literally Prey Moon Crash where like things are like fucking pretending

[03:16:22] to be like a folder on a table and then they'll fuck you up if you get close to it.

[03:16:26] That's literally this fight.

[03:16:28] But what one thing I literally lost my mind over is that when this boss fight starts, 1-15

[03:16:38] starts playing, which is the one of the original Easter egg zombie music.

[03:16:46] Really?

[03:16:46] Where you like shoot all the fucking barrels.

[03:16:49] The fucking.

[03:16:50] The song that plays whenever you're fighting this guy.

[03:16:56] It's like it's burned into the brains of all of the fucking Black Ops players.

[03:17:00] I'm fucking playing.

[03:17:01] Dude.

[03:17:02] You got to add that in on the episode, Phil.

[03:17:05] Oh, yeah.

[03:17:05] I'll put that one in.

[03:17:06] Yeah.

[03:17:07] Put it in here.

[03:17:14] I mean, put it in before actually.

[03:17:16] It would have been better there.

[03:17:17] It doesn't matter.

[03:17:18] But like, dude.

[03:17:19] I.

[03:17:20] I.

[03:17:20] I was just like, I almost had tears in my eyes because not only it was this.

[03:17:24] This is my third like boss fight.

[03:17:27] And I was already just completely enjoying myself and indulging completely into this fucking

[03:17:32] world that this.

[03:17:33] That Raven has like built for me.

[03:17:35] They just give me that.

[03:17:38] Like that is just for me.

[03:17:40] You know, that is just for us.

[03:17:41] Like the people who have been loyal to this fucking.

[03:17:44] Not loyal.

[03:17:45] But like people who understand like rant.

[03:17:49] This is a.

[03:17:50] It's not even a campaign reference.

[03:17:52] It's a reference to zombies from fucking 15 years.

[03:17:56] It's like, wow.

[03:17:58] What an interesting fucking thing.

[03:18:00] Who do you think is the lead developer?

[03:18:02] Because I've seen so much that Treyarch was the lead developer on this game instead of

[03:18:07] Raven.

[03:18:08] I think Treyarch.

[03:18:09] Like it was a combined.

[03:18:11] It was a combined effort.

[03:18:13] I mean, you saw the subtitles.

[03:18:15] There's like nine studios.

[03:18:16] I think I think for Black Ops 6 and Black Ops Cold War, Raven was the predominant developer

[03:18:23] for the campaign.

[03:18:24] But it says co-developed by Treyarch and Raven software with Raven leading production on the

[03:18:30] game single player campaign.

[03:18:32] So this was a Raven.

[03:18:33] Raven.

[03:18:33] Yeah, dude.

[03:18:34] Which Raven was Raven were the boys.

[03:18:37] That was one of the primary things that people were upset about was that Raven got folded

[03:18:40] into Call of Duty.

[03:18:41] Yeah.

[03:18:43] I still think that they deserve to do something other than Call of Duty.

[03:18:46] And I wish that that could be a case at some point in the future for Xbox to maybe allow

[03:18:51] that to happen.

[03:18:53] I would love it.

[03:18:54] But honestly, if they are outputting this, then it's like, why not Call of Duty?

[03:19:02] Why not have Raven?

[03:19:03] You probably can't do this again, though.

[03:19:07] There's no shot you can do this again because it's so just like.

[03:19:11] Like, it makes you feel so nostalgic.

[03:19:15] Like, I see you.

[03:19:17] I see the nostalgia you feel as you play this game.

[03:19:20] I hear it.

[03:19:21] There's no shot they can recreate this.

[03:19:26] There's a lot of things that could make nostalgic.

[03:19:29] There's so much Call of Duty nostalgia that could be had, I think.

[03:19:33] I don't even think.

[03:19:34] See, that's my thing is that I don't even necessarily think that it's a nostalgia factor.

[03:19:38] I think that a lot of what makes this game work for me is that the writing is actually

[03:19:43] pretty good.

[03:19:44] And the storyline is progressing.

[03:19:45] Like, the whole idea of what's happening here.

[03:19:47] Again, I know you're shaking your head.

[03:19:49] But like, the idea of like, what's happening here is that it's this is progressing towards

[03:19:55] it's the pulp fiction to circle back around.

[03:19:58] It's the spy CIA operative like novel.

[03:20:02] And this is where you realize that you as the main playable character are fucking plant.

[03:20:08] You you are some you're somehow you're compromised.

[03:20:11] You are you are like the sleeper cell that has been inserted into the CIA.

[03:20:15] But you're not actually the one.

[03:20:19] Right.

[03:20:19] And you realize that.

[03:20:20] No, I thought that I thought that this.

[03:20:24] Hold on.

[03:20:25] Am I wrong?

[03:20:25] I thought that all of these ideas were implanted by the gas that he inhaled.

[03:20:31] Well, he's good.

[03:20:33] I mean, I could be true ever at sleeper cell.

[03:20:36] But now he thinks he is a sleeper cell because the gas made him crazy.

[03:20:40] But he's hearing he's hearing the he's hearing the whispers from the woman.

[03:20:46] I think was her name.

[03:20:46] Harlow.

[03:20:47] Is that right?

[03:20:48] Harrow.

[03:20:49] Harrow.

[03:20:49] Harrow.

[03:20:50] Yeah, he's here.

[03:20:51] She's talking to him while he's there.

[03:20:53] And she's talking to him about like, do you remember?

[03:20:55] This is what we did.

[03:20:55] This is what they put us through.

[03:20:57] Yeah, but he's going.

[03:20:57] That's still his perception.

[03:20:59] But this is the thing is that he is going crazy.

[03:21:01] And then later in the campaign, Harrow.

[03:21:04] He tries to talk about it.

[03:21:04] And she's like, we can't talk about that to anybody.

[03:21:07] What I'm saying is that Harrow literally fights her her crazy self at the end of the game.

[03:21:13] Oh, I didn't get that far.

[03:21:14] I didn't get that far.

[03:21:15] Oh, shit.

[03:21:15] Oh, yeah.

[03:21:16] No, it's OK.

[03:21:18] It's OK, Nave.

[03:21:18] It's OK.

[03:21:19] I figured that we were going to have to spoil it for this conversation.

[03:21:21] So it's all right.

[03:21:22] But it's it's tough because you're right.

[03:21:25] Right.

[03:21:26] It could be that he is a sleeper cell, but it also could be that he is.

[03:21:29] It's never like established.

[03:21:31] That's not established at all.

[03:21:33] So like that's an open question.

[03:21:35] Again, ambiguity, I think, is always good for the situations like this.

[03:21:39] Yeah.

[03:21:40] Also, at the end, the end, the end like has a cut scene and your dude isn't there.

[03:21:47] Weird.

[03:21:48] What dude?

[03:21:49] Oh, oh.

[03:21:50] Fucking case.

[03:21:53] Case isn't there.

[03:21:55] You never know what he looks like.

[03:21:56] But there is a guy who's like fucking typing on a computer.

[03:21:59] And I don't know if he's a character from Black Ops or not.

[03:22:02] And so if he is that, he's that character.

[03:22:04] But if he isn't, then it's like, is that case?

[03:22:06] I don't know.

[03:22:07] So that's me not knowing like the fucking lore.

[03:22:10] But whenever you were like describing this to me and being like, there's all this crazy

[03:22:15] shit happening.

[03:22:16] There's like this woman's voice that you keep hearing and all of this shit.

[03:22:20] I kept thinking of Still Wakes the Deep, which I played and beat.

[03:22:25] And I cried so much with that game.

[03:22:28] That game was incredible.

[03:22:29] It was fantastic.

[03:22:31] You were losing your mind.

[03:22:32] You don't know what happens exactly at the end of it.

[03:22:35] You heard this woman's voice the whole game.

[03:22:37] It was so good.

[03:22:39] So it touched me in such a certain way.

[03:22:44] And this just like doesn't do that for me.

[03:22:47] Well, you didn't beat it.

[03:22:49] I didn't.

[03:22:49] Fucking dumby dumb.

[03:22:53] I didn't realize I needed to beat it until like two days ago, whenever you were like,

[03:22:57] you're going to play this fucking game.

[03:23:00] And I was like, I don't really want to.

[03:23:02] But I guess if you want me to, I will.

[03:23:05] He had to twist.

[03:23:06] He had to twist my arm into playing it too, Rachel.

[03:23:08] I had no intention of jumping into it this quickly.

[03:23:11] Oh, yeah.

[03:23:11] I had no desire whatsoever.

[03:23:15] Yeah.

[03:23:16] The fifth boss fight director.

[03:23:17] He was cool.

[03:23:18] But that was it.

[03:23:20] He was floating around.

[03:23:21] You have to kill zombies.

[03:23:21] And it's all cool.

[03:23:23] This is the mission that was going to take up most of the conversation, I imagine.

[03:23:27] So the rest of the...

[03:23:28] Yeah.

[03:23:28] The rest aren't going to be as bad.

[03:23:29] Yeah.

[03:23:30] One thing I will say that with this next mission, High Rollers, pretty cool situation.

[03:23:34] Again, 007.

[03:23:37] You know, you go into a casino.

[03:23:38] You got to do a paramilitary undercover operation in there to get the information out of the people.

[03:23:44] It's still pretty neat.

[03:23:45] But this actually, this reminded me a lot of Cyberpunk Phantom Liberty.

[03:23:50] Yes!

[03:23:51] Where you have to go into the high rise.

[03:23:53] And you're going and you're talking to like the twins that are playing.

[03:23:56] Like, this shit is cool, man.

[03:23:58] Also...

[03:23:59] It's so fun.

[03:23:59] I got a little mad because I fucked up.

[03:24:03] Like, I couldn't see the cards that were on the table.

[03:24:06] And then it gives you the prompt to choose the card to pull out to get the right thing to do it.

[03:24:10] And then I just get it the first time.

[03:24:12] What happens?

[03:24:13] No, I chose High Card when I should have gone full house.

[03:24:19] And then what happens is that like...

[03:24:21] And then he throws the card down and he's like,

[03:24:23] Ah, yeah, the douchebag is the winner.

[03:24:25] And you're like, oh my god.

[03:24:27] And it says, game over, you lost.

[03:24:28] Oh, really?

[03:24:29] And then you just have to do that section.

[03:24:31] He literally just puts you back into that same moment.

[03:24:34] I was hoping that it would give you a different way to go through.

[03:24:37] But yeah.

[03:24:38] I immediately was like, oh, I know what to do.

[03:24:42] But as soon as I did it...

[03:24:44] You could tell you needed to go with the high card?

[03:24:46] No, you always go full house.

[03:24:48] It's the highest value.

[03:24:49] Why would you not?

[03:24:50] He told you what he had.

[03:24:52] I haven't played Bellatro soon enough.

[03:24:54] I'm sorry, Nave.

[03:24:55] I don't remember.

[03:24:57] I don't remember.

[03:24:58] But yeah, so like...

[03:25:00] As soon as I did it, I was like, oh, I should have picked the wrong one.

[03:25:03] Because I was like, I wonder what it would do.

[03:25:05] But yeah, I'm glad you did pick the wrong one.

[03:25:08] Yeah, it would be cool if he could like pull out his gun and just start killing everybody.

[03:25:11] Yeah, it just turns into a fire.

[03:25:13] He just, oh, I lost.

[03:25:14] Die.

[03:25:15] But yeah, cool level.

[03:25:17] Whenever I was playing this, this is literally the movie Now You See Me.

[03:25:21] Have you guys seen that?

[03:25:23] Yeah.

[03:25:23] Yeah.

[03:25:24] Is that the one with Jesse Eisenberg?

[03:25:25] Yeah.

[03:25:26] I don't know what that means.

[03:25:27] It is.

[03:25:28] It is that one.

[03:25:29] The magicians.

[03:25:29] Okay.

[03:25:29] It's the movie where everyone's a magician and they're like going...

[03:25:32] I don't remember anything.

[03:25:33] Once again, not an original concept.

[03:25:36] Or whatever.

[03:25:36] Oh, my God.

[03:25:38] There's always been a heist movie.

[03:25:41] There's just a bunch of people trying to do a heist.

[03:25:44] And then the camera follows you around.

[03:25:45] The best thing about this is that you get to play as like basically every character.

[03:25:49] Everybody.

[03:25:50] Everybody.

[03:25:50] And then the guy who doesn't want to kill people, he ends up having to kill people.

[03:25:54] Yeah.

[03:25:54] With his hands.

[03:25:55] He compromises his morals.

[03:25:58] But I just...

[03:25:59] It was such an awesome change of pace.

[03:26:02] Like every single...

[03:26:03] Like it's such a great change of pace.

[03:26:05] And that is just one thing that you could describe at every single mission.

[03:26:08] Every single level is a different feeling.

[03:26:10] It feels like every single level was made by a different game dev studio.

[03:26:16] Which makes sense because it's Call of Duty and there's 57 game dev studios that are making this game.

[03:26:20] So it's like...

[03:26:21] It feels like...

[03:26:22] What if they were in a casino?

[03:26:24] And they're like, yeah, we can write that in somehow.

[03:26:26] But it's all coherent.

[03:26:28] That's the thing.

[03:26:29] Is that like you look at an Ubisoft game.

[03:26:31] And that's one of my biggest critiques of Outlaws.

[03:26:33] A game that I actually ended up enjoying at the end of the day.

[03:26:36] You could tell that it had like eight different studios spread across like five different countries.

[03:26:41] And like one team was doing the UI.

[03:26:43] And the other team was doing like the stealth design.

[03:26:46] And none of them were fucking talking to each other.

[03:26:48] And it's just this like Frankenstein amalgamation of the game.

[03:26:50] Whereas Black Ops 6 seems like a very fluid, like coherent experience from top to bottom.

[03:26:59] Like even though like it's throwing all this different shit at you.

[03:27:01] You're always kind of streamlined into this one linear direction where you're like, okay, this is cool.

[03:27:06] And like you were saying, the changing of the cameras to the different characters that you're going across.

[03:27:11] Like that's not something that you really get to do a lot.

[03:27:14] Not in games, in first person shooter games in general, let alone Call of Duty games.

[03:27:18] And the transitions were always so cool.

[03:27:20] I just...

[03:27:20] One specific one that I remember is whenever the guy pickpocketed the key card from the dude trying to fix the slot machine.

[03:27:30] The slot machine.

[03:27:30] The slot machine.

[03:27:31] And we're fucking up.

[03:27:31] And then he hands it over.

[03:27:33] And then the camera moves.

[03:27:34] It literally is a scene from Now You See Me.

[03:27:36] Where like he hands it over.

[03:27:38] And then the camera moves over to your perspective.

[03:27:40] And now you're the guy.

[03:27:42] The guy that doesn't kill people.

[03:27:44] Who gets his hands dirty.

[03:27:45] Yeah.

[03:27:46] Romanov or whatever.

[03:27:47] I don't care.

[03:27:48] I don't remember.

[03:27:48] Good stuff.

[03:27:48] What happens at the end of this?

[03:27:50] Like they're at the casino in order to do what?

[03:27:53] I can't remember what the objective of them being at the casino is.

[03:27:56] Other than like they're killing like these guys that are there.

[03:28:01] We're going into the casino to get the files I think that are in the vault that provide a location to the scientist.

[03:28:12] That's right.

[03:28:12] Because you got to get the scientist.

[03:28:13] That's right.

[03:28:14] And that's what happens in the next episode.

[03:28:16] Which by the way, fucking, what's his name?

[03:28:21] What, the main character?

[03:28:23] Case.

[03:28:24] Case.

[03:28:24] Case.

[03:28:25] This is the second time that he gets captured as part of the plane and tortured.

[03:28:30] And tortured.

[03:28:31] It happens a lot.

[03:28:32] And literally when you're the German, you have to walk past him getting tortured.

[03:28:36] Getting beat up.

[03:28:36] Yeah.

[03:28:39] Insane.

[03:28:39] And then as you're going out through like doing the exfil, like the girl who's with the party, she's like, you really took another one for the team there, Case.

[03:28:48] We owe you big time.

[03:28:50] And I'm like, okay.

[03:28:51] Which one amazing part is when you get into the basement and then you get into the vault and you get to put weapons into the fucking box.

[03:29:01] Yeah.

[03:29:01] That was cool.

[03:29:01] Like in Ocean's 13.

[03:29:03] And then like you put the weapons into the box and then those are the weapons that you get to like hold out with.

[03:29:08] It's like these little fucking points of choice are awesome.

[03:29:15] Please, God.

[03:29:16] Activision.

[03:29:17] Like listen to us.

[03:29:18] These – you can do – it's like that one mission that we did, we were talking about before.

[03:29:25] What's it called?

[03:29:26] Most Wanted.

[03:29:27] Where you have three different missions but you can do like whichever one you want.

[03:29:32] Like they all result in the same outcome but it doesn't matter if they result in the same outcome if you give us a choice in how we want to approach the thing.

[03:29:42] Like that is so much more fun than just being on a roller coaster.

[03:29:48] And I think that Raven has really tapped into that especially after this fucking showing with their campaign.

[03:29:55] Yeah.

[03:29:56] Speaking of on rails, go on to the next mission.

[03:30:00] Next we have a very on rails mission.

[03:30:02] This is the tank mission, I guess or vehicle mission where you fight your way into an Iraqi airport, take control of a tank, and try to stop an aircraft from taking off that has the scientists that we need in it.

[03:30:14] By blowing it up.

[03:30:16] Yeah, by blowing it up.

[03:30:16] You shoot the airplane with the tank.

[03:30:18] And I'm like this is awesome.

[03:30:21] This is a pretty fucking fun mission.

[03:30:24] It's very silly.

[03:30:25] It's run and gun.

[03:30:26] At this point, I really want to emphasize that I was playing on Veteran which is brutal on some of the fucking Call of Duty campaigns.

[03:30:33] It was not that big of a deal, honestly.

[03:30:40] And this was really just a straight Call of Duty mission.

[03:30:43] And I – no stealth, no nothing.

[03:30:46] You're just constantly running and gunning.

[03:30:48] I mean I guess in part of it you're in a tank.

[03:30:51] But it's like the difficulty really isn't that fucking bad.

[03:30:57] And so I'm really happy about that.

[03:31:00] Yeah.

[03:31:01] This gave me literally just because you're in an airport and you're hunting down people.

[03:31:05] I mean it gave me the same vibes as the first mission in Modern Warfare 2 with like out like the rampant like, you know, crowd genocide that you're going on in that game.

[03:31:15] Like whereas you're just fighting forces in here.

[03:31:18] I just think, again, it's just like this breakneck speed of going down and going through the mission.

[03:31:24] You're like, oh my god.

[03:31:25] Like we got the wrong thing.

[03:31:26] Now we got to jump in this tank.

[03:31:28] This desert fucking storm tank and just go all cross map.

[03:31:31] Shit, dude.

[03:31:32] I'm glad you brought that up because I don't know what like algorithm they have implemented in this game.

[03:31:37] But in Modern Warfare 3, the fucking millisecond a bullet grazed the ass cheek of a fucking civilian.

[03:31:45] You lost.

[03:31:47] And in this game –

[03:31:48] You can fuck up.

[03:31:49] You can fuck up.

[03:31:50] But somehow the game understands if you aim at a civilian and then shoot them.

[03:31:56] It understands that.

[03:31:57] And then you will lose instantly.

[03:31:59] But if you're aiming at enemies and you're shooting and then a civilian like gets hurt.

[03:32:06] Across your reticle, yeah.

[03:32:07] Like I killed multiple civilians across this campaign.

[03:32:10] And as soon as I did it, I was like my asshole would like clinch up.

[03:32:13] And then I was like, oh, I'm not – I didn't lose.

[03:32:17] That's incredible.

[03:32:18] Yeah.

[03:32:19] I never killed civilians, but I shot Adler in the back of the head two separate times.

[03:32:24] Oh, I shoot at my party members the entire game.

[03:32:26] I'm shooting at the entire game.

[03:32:27] And it instantly fails the mission.

[03:32:28] And it's like we do not tolerate friendly fire.

[03:32:31] You actually killed yours?

[03:32:33] No, you just shoot one sniper bullet in the back of the head in the mission.

[03:32:37] Oh, oh, oh.

[03:32:38] Well, you can definitely shoot Adler a couple of times and it's okay.

[03:32:43] I guess it's a damage ratio.

[03:32:46] Yeah, I was shooting like all of like Marshall, Adler, Vasquez, whatever.

[03:32:49] It happened in like the last mission and then I think maybe this mission.

[03:32:52] It definitely happened in this mission where I would shoot Adler a couple of times and then lose.

[03:32:58] And then I'd be like, oh, fuck.

[03:32:59] I didn't realize.

[03:33:00] That's who I was.

[03:33:00] What do you look like about that?

[03:33:02] You were frustrated whenever you shoot him.

[03:33:05] But it wasn't like the last Columbia game where you'd shoot the guy on accident because he just jumped in front of your gun.

[03:33:12] Yeah, the AI was definitely a lot better.

[03:33:14] There were some parts though where I would be using a part of cover and then an AI would be in front of me.

[03:33:21] The problem that I had is that you can't shoot if they're in front of you.

[03:33:26] And so if they're like right next to you and they're in front of you, you can't shoot.

[03:33:29] And so I'd be like, get the fuck out of the way, Sev.

[03:33:32] Get the fuck out of the way.

[03:33:34] I can't like so I'm getting shot and I can't shoot back because Sev is in front of me.

[03:33:39] And I'm like, you're fucking kidding me.

[03:33:41] But that was really like the beginning of the game.

[03:33:43] And also is like a few parts.

[03:33:45] Most of the time, like in these big open areas, like in ground control, this also – it did happen because you're in hallways.

[03:33:52] You're like in an airport.

[03:33:54] And so sometimes you would have fucking Adler in front of you and you're like, oh shit, I can't do anything.

[03:33:59] But that's only a part of the mission, yeah.

[03:34:03] Yeah.

[03:34:04] Yeah.

[03:34:05] Next up we have –

[03:34:06] Yeah, under the radar.

[03:34:08] This is another multiple choice stealth mission with Sev.

[03:34:11] This one feels like Outer Worlds or whatever where you're like walking around the site talking to people being like, hey, I need to upgrade your SAM missiles as you go over there and just sabotage the shit out of them.

[03:34:25] This is the fucking peak of the game design of this fucking game.

[03:34:32] Like I genuinely adore this mission.

[03:34:36] Not – I still think that the emergence mission where everything gets fucking flipped on its head, I think that that's my favorite obviously because I love that kind of submersion of expectations.

[03:34:46] But like this is the literal accumulation of everything that they have done throughout the campaign.

[03:34:53] And I think that it is wonderful because I wrote it down in here is because it has the stealth.

[03:35:01] It has the multiple objectives and it has the fucking choice for each objective.

[03:35:07] From all of the interesting cool things that they've done throughout the campaign, it all accumulates here where you get to do whatever it is you fucking want.

[03:35:19] This is legitimately the Hitman level.

[03:35:22] And I think it's really cool too that you're playing as Sev in this as opposed to playing as Case.

[03:35:28] I don't know.

[03:35:29] I just thought – I felt like it offered like a unique perspective and I guess she was a little bit more – I'm sure this isn't necessarily canon, but she felt like she had a little bit more going on upstairs than Case technically does in terms of the way that she's trying to finesse it.

[03:35:44] They know what Case looks like.

[03:35:46] Also, Case has been ass whooped twice at this point.

[03:35:50] So it makes sense that he needed a little bit of time.

[03:35:54] He needed a break.

[03:35:54] He needed a break for sure.

[03:35:56] And they make it clear that Adler, Case, and Marshall can be recognized by CIA and Pantheon.

[03:36:02] Oh.

[03:36:03] But Sev is the unknown.

[03:36:05] You're right.

[03:36:05] I'm going to talk about how good the –

[03:36:06] Sorry, go ahead.

[03:36:07] Sev is constantly in different –

[03:36:09] Sev looks – the only time you ever see what Sev actually looks like is during the Rook missions, which by the way, I don't know if we mentioned it, but the Rook missions happen in between most of these.

[03:36:19] I think we did because I mentioned Halo 3 ODST, but like you only ever see what Sev actually looks like there.

[03:36:27] And then every time you see Sev in a different mission, she's always like got a wig on and like makeup and like she looks completely different every time.

[03:36:36] So it makes total sense that she would be the one going in.

[03:36:40] Yeah.

[03:36:41] Yeah, she's a sleuther.

[03:36:42] Which is much better than the stealth mission in Modern Warfare 3 where you were the lady officer that just walked in.

[03:36:51] Walked into the Russian facility.

[03:36:53] She literally just walked in.

[03:36:54] They really just didn't try with that game, did they?

[03:36:56] No, they didn't.

[03:36:57] It was bad.

[03:36:58] All right.

[03:36:59] But you get to do a lot of stuff.

[03:37:00] You get to like talk to people, talk about their childhood, really connect to them before you eventually set up the attack and you call and case the murder machine to murder his way into the base.

[03:37:11] And capture Harrow.

[03:37:15] And that's where I left off is that like I had to jump on the podcast.

[03:37:20] They saw Harrow on the monitors and then like case we called in and they was like, yeah, I saw her downstairs.

[03:37:26] And so Marshall and him decide to go down.

[03:37:28] So basically they're just hunting down Harrow and they get her.

[03:37:31] Well, they want to get the weapons because this is where the weapons were supposed to be.

[03:37:35] But we're too late.

[03:37:36] But Harrow is here.

[03:37:37] We're not leaving empty handed.

[03:37:39] Right.

[03:37:39] Yeah.

[03:37:40] So we grabbed Harrow.

[03:37:41] The great thing is like how did you guys progress throughout the different like objectives?

[03:37:47] Do you guys remember what you were doing?

[03:37:48] I went.

[03:37:49] I talked to everyone.

[03:37:50] Yeah.

[03:37:51] I talked to everybody.

[03:37:51] I went to the helicopter first, talked to the guy at the gate.

[03:37:54] I planted the explosives on the ship, the shipment.

[03:38:00] The crates.

[03:38:01] The crates.

[03:38:02] Yeah.

[03:38:02] That were going to the helicopter.

[03:38:03] And then I made the unfortunate mistake.

[03:38:06] I don't know what happened or what I didn't get right.

[03:38:09] But I went to the sand missile site and I talked to the dude inside the thing and I was like, hey, I'm the new guy on the block.

[03:38:15] I got to go upgrade the warheads on the sand missiles.

[03:38:18] And he was like, OK, blah, blah, blah.

[03:38:19] What did I do your thing?

[03:38:20] And I was trying to find the warheads to sabotage them.

[03:38:24] But I had to go into the restricted area and I got immediately spotted.

[03:38:27] So I had to go murder everybody.

[03:38:29] I just were in like a shed to the left because I also had an issue with that one.

[03:38:33] Yeah.

[03:38:33] You have to just go back outside and go into the warhead storage room, which is right next to the other.

[03:38:39] All right.

[03:38:40] Here's the thing is that like there's an achievement for this.

[03:38:44] This is the only reason why I know this.

[03:38:45] But you can get this.

[03:38:47] You can you can kill the guy at the Sam area and then get on his computer and make the Sam target the helicopter.

[03:38:56] What?

[03:38:57] And then that takes two birds with one stone.

[03:39:01] So literally that one like action knocks off two of your objectives.

[03:39:05] And then the third objective is literally just to turn off the thing.

[03:39:08] So I talked to the guy and was like, hey, we're going to run a simulation.

[03:39:11] We need to run that again because you fucked it up or something.

[03:39:16] And then as soon as you do that, everything gets gets all fucked up.

[03:39:20] So, I mean, like, I just I adore.

[03:39:23] Yeah.

[03:39:24] How much agency this game gives you.

[03:39:27] This is good shit.

[03:39:29] All right.

[03:39:30] The next one.

[03:39:30] This is a big one.

[03:39:31] This is the final mission separation anxiety and checkmate.

[03:39:35] This one.

[03:39:36] You have Harrow back at the house.

[03:39:38] She's like, you know, Pantheon is going to restructure the world and you guys are all getting downsized.

[03:39:42] And we're like, that's not good.

[03:39:45] So we inject her with some mystical drugs to give her give us information so we can stop the chemical attack.

[03:39:52] Yeah.

[03:39:53] Something like that.

[03:39:54] And we're like, we got to know where the stuff is at.

[03:39:57] And she's like, I'll never give it up.

[03:39:59] And we're like, great.

[03:40:01] We then go into her brain and relive her trauma of her parents being killed by an unknown assassin.

[03:40:07] What the fuck?

[03:40:09] As a child.

[03:40:10] Yeah.

[03:40:11] And then you rebuild her life as she becomes like, you know, second lead director of the CIA.

[03:40:17] Oh, so we're playing Psychonauts 2 now is what we're doing.

[03:40:21] Oh, do Psychonauts.

[03:40:22] If you see the notes, the picture of the broken mirror.

[03:40:25] That is the mirror that her father was shot through or like her father was shot and the bullet went through him and into the mirror in front of her.

[03:40:33] And she saw the whole thing.

[03:40:34] And she was planted information that the assassin was Adler the whole time.

[03:40:41] Oh.

[03:40:42] Which is why she's kind of had it out for Adler.

[03:40:44] Yeah.

[03:40:45] But then you're like, but what if it wasn't?

[03:40:47] And she's like, what?

[03:40:51] Yeah.

[03:40:53] It's like, what if it wasn't Adler?

[03:40:54] And it was Pantheon setting you up this whole time.

[03:40:57] Yeah.

[03:40:57] Because the whole premise is she will become the director.

[03:40:59] I have no evidence against that.

[03:41:00] Like, actually.

[03:41:04] Which is really dumb.

[03:41:05] But you have like a Silent Hill moment of walking around in a spooky hangar area with an elevator trying to get a hold of all our memories.

[03:41:15] And the mannequins come back.

[03:41:17] They reuse those ones slightly.

[03:41:19] You start seeing like weird childhood things pop around.

[03:41:22] It's like kind of little nightmares where you're like you're a little child on some parts.

[03:41:26] Spooky stuff.

[03:41:27] I actually got jump scared like once.

[03:41:29] Yeah.

[03:41:29] Did it play?

[03:41:30] Did it play Piglet's Big Adventure foreboding soundtrack?

[03:41:34] Who do you?

[03:41:34] Dude.

[03:41:36] Legitimately though, I actually got jump scared in the, what's it called?

[03:41:41] Mission Emergence.

[03:41:43] Where you, when you first go up to the elevator and you turn around and there's a mannequin there.

[03:41:49] And I was like, oh, it's a mannequin.

[03:41:51] That's adorable.

[03:41:52] Oh, look a mannequin.

[03:41:53] Ooh, scary.

[03:41:53] And then it turned into a zombie started hitting me.

[03:41:56] And I was like, ah!

[03:41:56] You're like, oh my god.

[03:41:57] I really did like have a like, ah!

[03:42:00] Like have, it fucking happened.

[03:42:02] Good.

[03:42:02] Cool.

[03:42:03] So while you're going through her memories, we keep cutting back to Case fighting for his goddamn life as they have a tracking device in Harlow.

[03:42:12] And they're, the Pantheon's coming to pick her up.

[03:42:15] So they're storming the rook or whatever.

[03:42:17] Yeah.

[03:42:18] They're, so things are bad.

[03:42:20] Uh, everybody's fine for their lives.

[03:42:22] Friends are dying.

[03:42:23] Adler tries to sacrifice himself.

[03:42:25] Uh, but you manage to save him.

[03:42:27] Um, a lot of people almost die, but then they get saved.

[03:42:29] Very dramatic.

[03:42:30] Very Call of Duty.

[03:42:32] Yeah.

[03:42:33] And then we keep cutting back to, uh, mommy and daddy issues.

[03:42:38] And she's like, you know what?

[03:42:39] Maybe I am a good guy.

[03:42:40] But then the drugs start to wear off.

[03:42:42] And the bad version of Harlow, she has a like shadow Harlow shows up.

[03:42:48] Oh, it's like a piece edge in control.

[03:42:50] Yeah.

[03:42:51] I love it.

[03:42:52] So then you have good and bad Harlow.

[03:42:55] And you gotta be like, hey, get in there.

[03:42:57] And it's Woods talking to her.

[03:42:58] So he's like this grumpy old grandpa.

[03:43:00] He's like, let me help you.

[03:43:01] But you gotta give me the info on the, the weapons of mass destruction.

[03:43:06] Cause the whole thing they're really interrogating her.

[03:43:09] Yeah.

[03:43:09] Yeah.

[03:43:10] That's actually what's happening.

[03:43:11] Yeah.

[03:43:12] But, uh, eventually she, she gives it up.

[03:43:15] Uh, and we call our friend in the CIA, the director.

[03:43:18] And we're like, Hey, they're going to blow up the Capitol building with this rage drug that makes everyone a killing machine like case.

[03:43:25] So maybe, uh, stop them.

[03:43:28] And they managed to stop them.

[03:43:30] And we're like, and it was covered up.

[03:43:32] This, this level does have the hardest part in the entire campaign, by the way.

[03:43:38] And what was that?

[03:43:41] So the literal hardest part in the entire campaign is this part where Harrow has to get to her office in 30 seconds.

[03:43:51] And.

[03:43:52] Did a second try.

[03:43:53] It's easy.

[03:43:53] Yeah.

[03:43:54] Okay.

[03:43:55] I'm on veteran.

[03:43:58] So there's a, so you get like, there's two thirds, right?

[03:44:02] The first third you get to will give you a better gun, like not a pistol.

[03:44:07] And then the second third will give you a grappling hook.

[03:44:11] The problem.

[03:44:13] Is that you're playing on veteran and there are no other targets other than you.

[03:44:19] So.

[03:44:20] Multiple.

[03:44:21] Multiple.

[03:44:21] This probably took me actually like 30 or 40 minutes where like I would spawn and start running forward.

[03:44:29] I would grapple hook forward and then instantly die.

[03:44:32] The moment I'd start grappling hook forward, I'd die like as I'm grappling hook forward.

[03:44:36] And the enemies don't spawn until you cross a line.

[03:44:41] And so they would, the line you cross is while you're grappling forward.

[03:44:46] And then they would instantly shoot you as you're grappling up forward.

[03:44:51] But it wasn't always that.

[03:44:53] Like, so like sometimes you'd make it, but like 15% of the time you would make it.

[03:44:59] And then like the other, uh, it was so awful.

[03:45:03] It was so terrible.

[03:45:05] And, but it was like, that was the first hurdle.

[03:45:07] And then you would like go and fight like three more guys who might instantly kill you because like they spawn in and are shooting at you already.

[03:45:16] Before you can even shoot them.

[03:45:18] Like it is, that is for sure the hardest part in the whole campaign.

[03:45:24] Hmm.

[03:45:25] And then you get to the end behind that and they give you a auto shotgun and a LMG.

[03:45:31] And you just shoot down waves and waves of zombies.

[03:45:34] Yeah.

[03:45:34] The last turn type thing.

[03:45:36] Yeah.

[03:45:36] That was kind of fun.

[03:45:37] That's the thing.

[03:45:38] So like I would describe this game on veteran as like, there are like five random like parts where you just are locked.

[03:45:46] In a spot or like, you just have to buy luck, get out of.

[03:45:50] Yeah.

[03:45:51] All right.

[03:45:52] And everyone wraps up the story and they leave it open.

[03:45:55] They're like next time on Dragon Ball Z.

[03:45:59] That's it.

[03:46:00] Yeah.

[03:46:00] That's it.

[03:46:01] Which I'm in.

[03:46:02] I'm so excited.

[03:46:04] It's a soft ending.

[03:46:07] Like I'm, I, I just want them to continue this fucking.

[03:46:13] This philosophy of like inspiration, you know,

[03:46:17] Do you want them to do a direct continuation of the story?

[03:46:20] Like a direct sequel with like Marshall and case and frame.

[03:46:23] I think they have to.

[03:46:24] They have to, but also it makes sense as well because black ops cold war was another,

[03:46:32] it was definitely considered a variance of like Call of Duty in general.

[03:46:37] Like as far as the campaign is concerned.

[03:46:40] Rachel is just so nonplussed after, at the end of all this.

[03:46:43] I'm so sorry.

[03:46:44] I don't mean to be that way.

[03:46:46] No, it's okay.

[03:46:47] It's okay.

[03:46:48] I just, I just don't care about this game.

[03:46:51] It makes me feel nothing.

[03:46:53] One of my favorite things, you know, like I get it.

[03:46:56] There's a lot of fluff in this, but I think probably the funnest thing is that they explain

[03:47:01] why your main character is such a monster killing machine.

[03:47:04] Yeah, exactly.

[03:47:06] With him potentially being a sleeper agent,

[03:47:07] gassed with hyper aggressive mystery gas.

[03:47:13] And apparently that's makes him a killing machine.

[03:47:17] Well, yeah, the facility that, that they were in,

[03:47:19] what are the cradle or whatever?

[03:47:21] Like the bioweapon wasn't like the, the like weapon of mass destruction.

[03:47:25] It was like making case in Harrow.

[03:47:28] Like those, they, they were the weapons that the cradle experiment was all about.

[03:47:32] But it's also like you, you, he inhaled the gases and then experienced that.

[03:47:37] So it's like, are you experiencing your past or are you also having a hallucination?

[03:47:43] Like that?

[03:47:44] Probably a little bit of both.

[03:47:45] Yeah.

[03:47:46] Because he gets the phone calls from Harrow that are like,

[03:47:49] remember when we were in the cells and they used to beat us with, you know,

[03:47:52] wet rags, make us angry or whatever.

[03:47:55] Like they put fucking soap and socks and then hit us really hard.

[03:48:01] Yeah.

[03:48:01] Good stuff.

[03:48:02] That was my favorite lab test.

[03:48:05] Well, so I mean, that was pretty cool.

[03:48:08] Yeah.

[03:48:08] Final words.

[03:48:09] Final words.

[03:48:10] I I'll go ahead and jump in here first on this one.

[03:48:12] I will say that as somebody, you know, to summarize everything that we've talked about earlier in this game.

[03:48:22] I think this game is really short and sweet.

[03:48:24] And as somebody who's, you know, obviously older, very busy time schedule, playing a lot of different games.

[03:48:29] I really appreciated that I could pick this game up and almost beat it.

[03:48:32] If I was more efficient with my time, I probably could have beaten it before the show today.

[03:48:36] But I was taking care of the cats, you know, doing chores around the house and stuff.

[03:48:40] So I had to put the controller down for a few times.

[03:48:42] But you can literally play this on a Saturday or just beat it on a weekend, Saturday and Sunday if you really wanted to.

[03:48:48] And you're being, you know, efficient with your time.

[03:48:50] And I think that, like, that's great because this is just a pulp fiction spy thriller mystery novel that they put into a video game that pays homage to a lot of other games that are out there and a lot of other first person shooters.

[03:49:04] And I just had a great time with it, man.

[03:49:05] Like, I just like I'm so I'm very, very surprised at how much I was enjoying my time with this game.

[03:49:11] And yeah, so shout out to Raven because they really did the damn thing.

[03:49:15] And so I hope my my one main thing is I hope that like Activision slash Xbox slash, you know, the Call of Duty people take the learn the right lessons from this game.

[03:49:28] I hope they don't look at this game and say, oh, well, we just got to we just got to copy and paste that a million other times into the later installments of the games.

[03:49:37] And I mean, Call of Duty at its core is going to be Call of Duty at the end of the day.

[03:49:40] But I just hope that like the industry looks at this game and looks at how accessible it is, looks at how, you know, they were able to like get the players in and out of the experience and just all of like the cool homage that they were paying to all of the really, really cool games that were very, very original and very influential for their genres at its core.

[03:50:03] And I just hope that they they they look at that and try to make decisions based off of that going forward as opposed to just copy and pasting.

[03:50:10] So, yeah, I appreciate it.

[03:50:12] Nice.

[03:50:13] What about you, Rachel?

[03:50:14] I'll take these next ones.

[03:50:15] This one's going to be a recommend for me specifically for the campaign.

[03:50:21] Much like you said, like this is definitely it feels like a Force Awakens where it's like, hey, here's all the fun stuff that you liked before, but they managed to make it good.

[03:50:30] Yeah.

[03:50:31] Where I actually enjoyed it more where it's like, yeah, I don't hate the sequel series for an unsequel.

[03:50:37] Was it is that what they call it?

[03:50:38] Like the Ray Star Wars second.

[03:50:40] Oh, yeah.

[03:50:41] It's a sequel trilogy.

[03:50:42] Yep.

[03:50:42] Yeah.

[03:50:42] Like I don't hate those, but it is also like they lean so heavily on the nostalgia for it.

[03:50:48] This does hit the nostalgia, but it also speaks to like the I don't know, the history of first person shooters, which I think is wild that they did that on Call of Duty.

[03:50:59] That's the biggest thing.

[03:51:01] So this game is definitely very special.

[03:51:03] I think everyone should probably play it, especially if you're in the first person shooters.

[03:51:07] But this is.

[03:51:10] It's probably like I don't know if I'm going to come back to it, maybe like 20 years or something like that.

[03:51:14] But for one and done, this is a great weekend game.

[03:51:20] Go for it, Rachel.

[03:51:22] I think if you don't have a history of first person shooters and you're not a big fan and you have any respect for James Bond, then you will not like this game.

[03:51:36] Those are my thoughts.

[03:51:41] I definitely am so excited to see what Raven is going to come up with soon.

[03:51:48] I know that they have this weird every other year kind of schedule with Call of Duty, and I'm not sure how that's going to go forward with Xbox.

[03:52:03] I know that they have this weird thing, but I am flabbergasted at the amount of freedom that they've seemed to gain as far as the campaign is concerned.

[03:52:16] And I was talking very positively of zombies and multiplayer as well.

[03:52:28] It's an out-of-body experience, honestly.

[03:52:32] Just kind of experiencing this game again.

[03:52:34] Hearing people talk in the lobbies rather than in party chat.

[03:52:45] Playing Call of Duty again in zombies and just going 15 rounds and then everyone fucking up and then dying and then losing suddenly.

[03:52:57] There's so many different things that are extremely nostalgic for me.

[03:53:02] And this campaign couldn't be further from the opposite.

[03:53:09] The campaign takes so many risks.

[03:53:15] It takes inspiration from so many different places.

[03:53:19] To the point where I feel like so many people aren't going to even be able to appreciate.

[03:53:32] Which I feel like they don't even mind.

[03:53:36] It feels like a love letter to so many different things.

[03:53:44] Which is wild coming from my mouth.

[03:53:48] Because I am so skeptical of huge corporations like Activision.

[03:53:58] And so this is me putting my own foot in my own mouth.

[03:54:03] I'm promoting a Call of Duty game.

[03:54:08] Yeah.

[03:54:10] Especially after Modern Warfare 3.

[03:54:11] Jesus.

[03:54:12] I can only imagine.

[03:54:15] Alright.

[03:54:16] And with that...

[03:54:17] I'm sorry.

[03:54:18] Final thought.

[03:54:19] Final question for the party.

[03:54:20] Do we think that this game is going to make an appearance as a nominee for a category of the Game Awards this year?

[03:54:28] Like in the action or first person shooter category?

[03:54:30] It absolutely is too.

[03:54:31] Yeah, it probably will.

[03:54:32] I don't think it'll win though.

[03:54:34] Yeah, probably not.

[03:54:35] Doom Eternal.

[03:54:35] You know, Dragon Age of the Veil Guard is out.

[03:54:38] Everybody, you know what I mean?

[03:54:40] Did Doom Eternal come out this year?

[03:54:42] No, it didn't.

[03:54:43] Oh, yeah.

[03:54:44] You know, like two years ago.

[03:54:47] Anyway.

[03:54:48] Alright.

[03:54:49] And with that, Nick, thank you once again for coming out from Friday Night Gamecast.

[03:54:54] Thanks for having me on, boys.

[03:54:55] Really happy to be here.

[03:54:56] You can find us on all podcasting platforms Friday Night Gamecast.

[03:54:59] It was a pleasure.

[03:55:01] Links will be below.

[03:55:01] Thank you.

[03:55:02] Thanks, Rachel.

[03:55:03] Thanks, Nave.

[03:55:05] Hello.

[03:55:06] And what are we playing next week?

[03:55:09] Can it be Phasmophobia, please?

[03:55:12] Anyone?

[03:55:13] Let me play a game that I really, really, really, really like.

[03:55:17] You gonna play Phasmophobia, Phillip?

[03:55:20] I don't have any money.

[03:55:22] Go out and drop $70.

[03:55:24] Listen, I can add you to my Steam family account.

[03:55:27] I keep adding people.

[03:55:28] I have like three more spots.

[03:55:30] No, it's okay.

[03:55:31] I'll just buy it for them.

[03:55:32] It's okay.

[03:55:33] No, I'm good.

[03:55:34] And with that, let's take a wait and see.

[03:55:38] What do we say?

[03:55:38] Oh, yeah.

[03:55:39] It's been so long.

[03:55:40] Thanks for joining us this week, co-partners.

[03:55:42] Maybe next time we can all fight our dark half in a broken mirror after we watch our father die together.

[03:55:48] Or eat the flesh of our fellow man.

[03:55:51] That too.

[03:55:52] That too.

[03:55:53] Nom, nom, nom.