Episode 162: Mario Party 3 - Airplane Situations

Episode 162: Mario Party 3 - Airplane Situations

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Welcome to episode 64 of the Gaming Together Podcast!

Hosted by Phil and Nave

Featured Guests:

Bill of Gaming & Collecting - https://linktr.ee/Thebarberwhogames

Mike of Official Quest 64 - https://x.com/Quest64Official

Our socials: https://linktr.ee/gamingtogether

Support our content here: https://www.patreon.com/gamingtogetherpod

Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro and Guests

2:10 - Wrestlemania 2000

3:45 - Overcooked

5:25 - Hotline Miami

7:20 - Bloodwash

9:25 - Dark Souls 2

10:25 - Balatro

11:50 - What is an RPG

19:25 - Bills Games

22:10 - Talkin Bout the Boys

25:50 - Star Wars Dark Forces

27:40 - Podcast News and Patreon

29:20 - Nightdive Studios

31:25 - AITA Turning Japanese

43:15 - AITA Kid Stole My Character

51:00 - AITA Girls Shouldn't Play Games

1:04:40 - Mario Party 3 Review

1:46:00 - Final Words

[00:00:00] Welcome to Gaming Together, a cooperative podcast. I'm your host, Nave and I'm here with my co-op partners, Mike from Quest64, official and Bill from Gaming and Collecting Podcast. We're going to play through a cooperative experience related to you, the listener.

[00:00:41] This is the criminal of co-op or something better off playing solo. First of all, Bill returning guest, how are you doing? I'm doing alright. I just picked up my sister from the airport. I got lost in the airport because I fucking could go into airports.

[00:00:55] I don't even know if I've ever seen an airport before, honestly. From the inside. Besides, you know, the Call of Duty mission. Which one is it called? I don't play Call of Duty. Ah man, it's the old one. No Russian. I think it's no Russian.

[00:01:08] Anyways, we also got a brand new co-op partner, Mike from the Quest official, Quest64 Twitter account. How are you doing? I'm doing good. I've actually seen a lot of the inside of airports. I grew up, my dad had a job in aeronautics.

[00:01:23] So I spent tons of time in airports and airplanes. And I actually live right next to an airport. So, we're dichotomy here today. Oh yeah. So in Oklahoma City, we have Tinker Air Force Base.

[00:01:36] So I see planes a lot, but like I've never actually been around the air. I mean, I don't think civilians are allowed to go around. Phillip is in the Air Force, so he's cringing right now or something that I'm doing.

[00:01:48] Mike, we usually have a co-op question for people who are first time guests on the podcast. Do you have any notable co-op memories that come to mind whenever you think about multiplayer games like anything from the past or anything recently that you've been doing that you'd

[00:02:02] like to throw out there to the listeners? Sure. From the past, so I'm a big N64 guy. Most of my content, if you want to call it that, on Twitter is Nintendo 64 related.

[00:02:16] So I grew up with the system and I have a younger brother and we did a lot of gaming together because you know, I lived out in the country so I wasn't really close to my friends. It was, you know, 20 minute drives to all of my friend's house.

[00:02:29] So it just, we played together. That's what we did. Even when we weren't agreeing, you play games together. And the one we played the most together, even though we owned GoldenEye, I ended up being WrestleMania 2000. And I like wrestling. I'm not a huge wrestling fan.

[00:02:46] I think I've actually grown to like wrestling more as I've gotten older and now it's kind of waned off because I have kids and they're not interested in whatever. But we played so much WrestleMania 2000, multiple creative characters. It let you, you know, create an entire pay-per-view.

[00:03:01] So we had custom belts and custom characters and then we would like go make snacks like make popcorn and make sandwiches. And then you could sit and watch a pay-per-view for like three and a half hours using the created wrestlers and stuff.

[00:03:16] And we did that all the time. Like every weekend we would do that. And then during the week, we would take our characters and, you know, go beat single player stuff and, you know, snatch other title belts and make rivalries happen.

[00:03:30] So then when the weekend came, it was more exciting. And then as far as like recent stuff, I do play a lot of games with my kids. A lot of Switch games. Lego City Undercover, we've been playing a lot because of the co-op on there is

[00:03:43] pretty fun, especially if you like Grand Theft Auto, but you don't want your six year old son playing Grand Theft Auto, which I mean, it's not that bad of a game, but it's not Lego City Undercover. But when people ask for Switch suggestions to play with your partner,

[00:04:00] I usually do the opposite and suggest a game not to play. I tried playing overcooked with my wife on multiple occasions. And that is that game we always say is as close as we've ever been to divorce is playing overcooked, especially, especially if you play for any

[00:04:18] extended amount of time. Or if you like cooking shows, like The Bear is really popular right now. It is just like that. It is just even I love her dearly. She's great. She puts up with my quest stuff on Twitter and all the other stuff I do.

[00:04:30] But, you know, we are just screaming at each other, you know, stay at your side of the kitchen, you know, like you got that we have to wash dishes. You have to be over here.

[00:04:37] I have to do this, you know, and it's it's if you haven't played overcooked, it's just chaos. It's crazy. And there's no way to be nice. So if you ever want to ruin a relationship, like get overcooked and get some friends and ruin, ruin those relationships.

[00:04:52] All it takes is one drop to tortilla and just completely sends the whole kitchen into disarray. Yeah, it's like it's everybody's fault by your own every time. It's like when me and Alex used to play Lego Star Wars back in the

[00:05:04] day when we were kids and she would always run off the screen. And I'd be like, what are you doing? Yeah, that's just griefing. That's grief. Alex was a griefer whenever you played Lego games. Probably knowing her. All right. Well, I fucking love overcooked. Absolutely.

[00:05:22] One of the first episodes we did was on that and we really need to run it back, probably because as far as I'm concerned, the last like 200 episodes we've done, we've only done like 100 something. But like they're they don't matter.

[00:05:34] Only the new ones matter because we sucked back then. All right. So we're going to get into the games that we've been playing. I've got my little tier list thing going up. I got a new update. I got two new updates.

[00:05:46] I threw two games up in there, Hotline Miami, which I beat Hotline Miami to last month. And it almost gave me multiple aneurysms, multiple years off my life. And I had to look back because I remember Hotline Miami being extremely hard as well.

[00:06:05] And I was like, I've got to go back and I've got to see. And it is nowhere near as hard as Hotline Miami. I skated through that book. I skated through Hotline Miami one. Have you guys played this one? I haven't. Not a lot.

[00:06:18] I played it back when it first came out, but it's been years. It's tough. So Rachel watched me beat Hotline Miami to and this one. And she is just watching me like this can't possibly be fun

[00:06:30] because I'm just dying over and over and over and over and over again. It is so fast and frantic. But the music is great. And I don't know if the game didn't play good, then it wouldn't be worth it. But the gameplay is really tight. It's super buggy.

[00:06:45] So it's like you're going to die for no reason because the AI decided to go a different way than you're used to or like that door will get jammed and start glitching out and you can't shoot through it or something. I eventually was just like screw guns.

[00:06:57] I got I'm going to be Tony, the tiger who kills people with his fists. And I'm just going to go around punching people out. That's the only way. That's like the best way to play that game or being the horse

[00:07:08] who kicks doors open and instantly kills people instead of just knocking them down. Oh, man. Anything but using the guns because my aim was terrible. But I do how I'm Miami and a I also dropped cell blade

[00:07:23] held blades and you a sacrifice or saga to whichever one the fucking I played. I dropped it in. It was it's still an eight year, but it's further down. So how I'm Amie's right about that below hollow night. And then I played a game called Blood Wash,

[00:07:39] which I assume neither of you have heard even heard of this game, right? I need if you can go on to Google real quick. You two listening, even if you're driving, going to Google and type in blood wash, just look at this game. Right now there is this.

[00:07:51] I talked about it in last week's episode because I purchased it. But this revival of like Retro Nintendo 64 PlayStation one graphic like horror games is this is just like a B like a B movie can't be like two to three hour.

[00:08:10] Just it's just an afternoon, you know, just get some food and just play through some really dumb slasher game. It actually kind of reminds me of ill bleed if it was less goofy. It'll bleed like, yeah.

[00:08:24] So it is in that like kind of retro aesthetic like kind of game. Blood Wash, there's a lot of screenshots where there's a gun in it. Not a lot of the time you have a gun like most of the time you have a gun.

[00:08:33] But it looks like N64 like manhunt. That's that's a really good. That's a really good description, actually. And I don't want to I don't want to like give away anything. I support what is this these people? I forgot their the name of them. Black Eyed Priest Games.

[00:08:52] Yeah. Well, they're the developer. Puppet Combo. So Puppet Combo are the people that are like, I think publishing this this kind of stuff. Or something. I don't know. They're called Puppet Combo games. I don't know how Puppet Combo goes into any of this.

[00:09:06] But all of the Puppet Combo games are awesome and they're slowly releasing on Xbox. I'm slowly buying them up playing them. So if you really like these retro throwback games, this is a great game. I put it in B B for Blood Wash.

[00:09:21] Because I can't I can't in good faith in good conscience put it in the same tier as Batman Arkham Asylum. So I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either. But so that's all I've really been playing. I've been playing also Battlefield 2042, but I'll talk about that next week.

[00:09:38] So what have you been playing, Mike? Hey, that's me. So a lot of time I spend on Twitter is just convincing people to like give Quest 64 a chance. And over the last two weeks, Twitter has been heavily Elden Ring and New Expansion.

[00:10:00] So I decided to do the opposite. So I have never played a Souls game and I wouldn't went down my basement and grabbed an Xbox 360 and Dark Souls 2 because I hear that that's the best one. So that's what I that's where I'm starting my journey.

[00:10:17] So for the last like two weeks, I've been playing Dark Souls 2. I'm about level 70 and maybe six bosses into the game. I'm really enjoying it after getting acclimated to never playing a Souls from Soft game. It obviously it's a learning curve.

[00:10:36] There is a there's entire communities based around telling, you know, people like me to get better at games in less letters and less words. So, but yeah, it's been lots of fun. It's been coupled with I've been doing an ongoing thing

[00:10:51] with some friends about like what an RPG is. So I'm trying to like stretch myself and play some types of RPGs that I haven't played before, a non traditional one. So besides that, I've also been playing Bellatrio a lot

[00:11:05] on the Switch because I can play it in bed, which seems like the best way to play Bellatrio is laying in bed with it up above your head. So when you get frustrated, you can just set the switch down and be done, which is very frequently Bellatrio.

[00:11:18] Is the opposite that I can't play it on the switch that snap it in half. I don't know. No, I know, but I like grab it really hard with one hand and I just slowly like set it down next to.

[00:11:29] But that's another game, you know, is it an RP? It's a roguelike. Like most people describe it as a card deck building roguelike game, but like as an RPG, it gives me a lot of those like RPG like feelings without being, you know,

[00:11:43] character building and progression and and stats. And like, you know, you're still beating bosses and leveling up and doing all the stuff that you would do in an RPG. And it like I said, it gives me that feeling that I'm progressing towards something.

[00:11:55] So it's one of those games where I'm just trying to play things that are role playing game adjacent without actually playing with without going and picking up, you know, whatever, whatever, fire emblem game just came out or whatever.

[00:12:09] Trying to do you like, yeah, really just really play with the fringes of RPGs. The most recent argument I've been having is whether or not Animal Crossing games are RPGs. And though that's been that's been the most fun I've been having with the RPG continuum so far.

[00:12:25] Just just out of curiosity, have you played all like five debatably six RPGs on N64? There's like so I have I own all of them. You can't see them around the corner here, but there's like more like in my opinion, like 20. But that includes the Japanese exclusive.

[00:12:42] It's like sharing the wanderers on there. Both customer mobile games are on there. The Nushi Suri River King games are both on there too. So there's a lot of other games, Zulmajutuke, which is another game that Imagineer made after Quest 64, but not another Quest 64 game.

[00:12:59] But yeah, I've played them all. I know the system gets a lot of flak for its lack of RPGs. But I've said this a few times before, if you take like the total library and then you divide it by the number of RPGs, it's about five percent.

[00:13:13] And that's the same percentage for the SNES and for the PlayStation. And it runs about the same percentage. You know, people complain, well, there's all sports games and filler titles and six four and it's same thing. It's like 15 to 17 percent sports titles,

[00:13:26] which is the same as the PlayStation and the Super Nintendo and all those. You know, it just it's it's just that it's so much more amplified. Like when people say that the Saturn is a big failure.

[00:13:36] Well, I mean, it wasn't a failure, but if you lived in the United States, yeah, it was. Yeah, you want to be if you want to be realistic. The N64 was technically a failure too, but it's not really a fair comparison because the PlayStation just fucking

[00:13:48] steamrolled everybody. Yeah. I mean, if you look at the individual game like the system wise, like his system sales, yeah, absolutely. PlayStation just trounced it. Like if you look at the game sales, you know, Super Mario,

[00:13:58] Goldeneye, Ocarina all sold as as good or better than the PlayStation titles. They came out, you know, Super Mario all sold every PlayStation one title, all of them and, you know, the games that sold on PlayStation

[00:14:10] are the best selling titles besides Final Fantasy seven were Gran Turismo one and two. Like, you know, so the games that that people were playing the PlayStation four and dumping on the N64 for weren't necessarily the things that you should be done.

[00:14:24] I mean, N64 had a lot of problems, but that wasn't necessarily the only one and it wasn't the best thing that PlayStation did either. PlayStation was really good with, you know, simulation games and stuff too. Japan ate up horse racing simulations and racing simulations

[00:14:38] and like puzzle games and other things that people don't you don't think about that as a PlayStation finger. And it was an N64 thing too. There was two horse racing simulations on N64. You know, there's a denture to go, the train simulation and all that stuff.

[00:14:53] But because we're we live in a certain area and which bought most of the N64 is worldwide, it seems really polarizing what was wrong with the system. But looking at like the total picture, it's it's different. RPGs are just one thing, you know, same with Saturn, you know.

[00:15:12] Was that library awesome? Yeah, Saturn's got an awesome library, but you have to like leave the states to see most of it, you know. Yeah, or you pay exuberant amounts of money because Saturn collecting is hell. Yeah, and it's not fun to emulate either.

[00:15:26] So whenever people say that an Nintendo 64 doesn't have RPGs, I always just remind them that Madden is a turn based RPG. Yeah, I mean, Grand Trismos, technically an RPG if you really want to be realistic here. Yeah, well, man, I remember Gran Turismo 3a, a spec where

[00:15:45] I don't know if that sounds pronounced. I think it's the first one I've ever said it out loud. But I would I would grind for those licenses, man. I would try as hard as I could. I didn't understand driving at all.

[00:15:55] I didn't understand that you couldn't take a turn at 90 degrees like at 100 miles an hour. I was like, why can't you do that? I played Rush. I played Mario Kart. This doesn't make any sense. But it's like this is like real life. It doesn't make any sense.

[00:16:09] And I know there's like some kidding here, like, you know, this is an RPG. Ha ha ha. But honestly, I much rather have this conversation than the ones that you usually have in this space where it's nothing is an RPG, you know, like N64.

[00:16:22] I hate that argument so much. Two RPGs, only turn based team, you know, party based, turn based character progression RPGs are the only RPGs. Only traditional Final Fantasy style RPGs are nothing as RPG adjacent. Everything else is RPG light.

[00:16:38] You know, none of those games count, you know, like I and that's I'm actually being on the different podcast next week doing this exact same thing, talking about RPGs again, too, because it's so like it's so gatekeeping. Like the RPG community gets really deep into it.

[00:16:54] Just love to make sure that you know that the game you're playing isn't hardcore enough. It's like, you know, console gamers dumping on mobile gamers. Now everybody mobile games. It is. It makes me think it reminds me of Keith from

[00:17:07] Main Quest, because we used to argue with him a lot about like in good fun. He knows we're fucking with him. But we would argue with him about things being a souls like and we would like we would send them stuff. Like, hey, look, it's like Dark Souls.

[00:17:19] He's like, Dark Souls didn't invent checkpoints. And I just like you sure. You sure about that? I've had arguments over like the N64 RPGs before just because like one of my favorite ones is Hybrid Heaven, which people like will fight saying it's not an RPG.

[00:17:36] And I'm like, it has RPG elements. It's pretty much an RPG. Yeah. It's not the greatest. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, when it comes to N64 RPGs, it's like you're kind of like grasping its straws for like the ones

[00:17:49] that are really good because like I think the only the other one was like Ijean Chronicles or whatever. Whatever it's I forget how to pronounce that. That one. Yeah. Bored me to sleep. But then like Mario's good. Well, Paper Mario is the one everyone goes for.

[00:18:03] There's also me the normie like Paper Mario. That's the most well known one. Yeah. There's also Flying Nightmares, which is an RPG fighting game, which is so dragon or flying dragon. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's another of those games like it's a fighting game.

[00:18:19] There are some really good RPG elements in it, but it's a fighting game. And there's actually two of those too. I don't know why I thought I'd Google Flying Dragon and see the game. So hold on. It's just got dragons.

[00:18:31] It's actually part of a really long series, the hero no Ken series, which has got there's NES SNES. There's like 17 games in that series. It just so happened there was one that people remember on the N64 and then there's Ogre Battle.

[00:18:43] Like people don't like like people are like, oh, that's just tactics on, you know, N64. No, like overbattles. It's yeah. It's it's it is an RPG. I mean, there's I mean, the only other argument I can think is like the debate on whether like you'd consider

[00:19:00] harvest moon 64 and RPG or not. And I do. But I mean, once again, brought and then games like Gauntlet Legends, like your. I mean, you're picking a character that character levels up. You look, you know, your skills are progressing. Everything is going up like an RPG.

[00:19:15] It's just there's a ton of enemies and you don't, you know, you're not leveling specific stats to just leveling your but I mean, that's every rogue like, you know, she ran didn't have stats. It was your equipment. You know, every time you went down the dungeon,

[00:19:28] nobody argues about games like that being RPGs. Just once again, nitpicky, nitpicky community, not not loving the roles that we're all playing in games. You know, yeah. Just flying dragon like unlocked memories. I'm looking at these screenshots. I've definitely played this out of this game.

[00:19:46] Yeah, it's a great game. It's a good fighter. I don't like really playing fighters on the N64 just because I don't like the controller very much, but that's a me thing. So no, that that's a lot of people thing. Not just speaking about Bill things.

[00:20:00] What have you been playing Bill? Um, so my my gameplay is always weird because I'm always shuffling between the weirdest games. Like I just played like almost every 3D O golf game there is for reasons you can find the podcast on

[00:20:17] those things, but anyways, I've been playing those. I'm still I'm doing my yearly playthrough of Persona 4 Golden right now just because favorite game ever. So that's kind of my background. Just like I'm chilling kind of game. And then my two main games I'm alternating

[00:20:32] between are I'm doing another playthrough of South Park the Fractured Butthole and then I'm playing this Paper Mario Thousand New Door remake right now. I need it. I that how much is that paper Paper Mario game? Is it 40 or 60? I think it's 50, I want to say.

[00:20:49] Oh, of course, right in the middle. I'm wrong on both counts. It might be wrong, to be honest, because I Nintendo's like sales are weird to me. Like, I mean, it's the company that sold Skyward Sword for like more than it was worth

[00:21:03] on the Wii without adding any content. So was the Donkey Kong Country game? $60, I think so. And then Paper Mario, I got to Google it now. It's Nintendo. Those games are always like expensive and you just kind of have to deal with it. It is $60.

[00:21:22] This one kind of like I'm like, I would pay $60 for the Thousand New Door, probably. It's it's like to me the second best Mario RPG ever made. So what's the first Bowser's Inside story? Oh, yeah.

[00:21:36] Well, I didn't grow up with the original Mario RPG, so I don't have nostalgia for it. But I mean, I love the remake. I thought the remake was fantastic. But Bowser's Inside story is like just a perfect RPG, in my opinion.

[00:21:49] Hell, yeah, that was a total guess shot in the dark. What was I just doing? OK, so wait, was that it? Yeah, other than that, I'm not really I've been on an anime binge for like the last like this entire vacation because it's literally rained up here

[00:22:05] every single day of the 4th of July break. So God, dude, it is like 100 degrees in Oklahoma. I've been suffering. I also got a ring. I got hit by pretty much every bill, like imaginable this month. So I'm like, I have no money at the moment.

[00:22:19] So I'm like, I'm just going to chill at home and do absolutely nothing this entire break. What games do I already own? I had you saw my collection. Oh, yeah. It was metal. His thing is literally the gaming and collecting podcast.

[00:22:35] So I mean, we can barely talk about collecting on there, though. Let's be real on this Instagram. Bill's Instagram, he's got a ton of his collection on if you want to go. I'm sure it's in your link tree, right? That I'll have.

[00:22:46] Yeah, you can find my Instagram on there, the Barbara games. I've gone. Thrac talked it up a couple of times where him and I are are starting some sort of rivalry, I guess. Of course. I know that is a rival in himself.

[00:23:01] Like he is just Gary from like Pokemon, like he just stops, stops anyone. He's fast. He said he did single handedly revive the 3DO experience because I would have never gotten off my butt to bring it back if he hadn't offered to be the co-host.

[00:23:15] So just recently I did a super pot episode and I was Aaron was like, hey, we're going to do Yada Yada. And I was like, yeah, sure, maybe. And he's like, it's going to be this person in Thrac.

[00:23:26] And as soon as I hit the rack, I was like, oh, I got to get on there and argue about something. Yeah, I was on there with Thrac and then also Andre from fine time. It was it was fun. Yeah, just just chaos, the two of them.

[00:23:42] And then, you know, Aaron laid at night after, you know, whatever he does to stay awake in the evenings. It was it was a really good time. I had good time. So it's nice. I like this.

[00:23:53] I'm making a big spider web of all of the podcasts I've been in. I get a bunch of co-host stuff. I'm having a really good time in this in the space recently. It's great. Yeah. Aaron's a good guy.

[00:24:02] He's the one who kind of got us talking to each other because what was it? Did you post a meme with Fryron in it or something? I don't remember it. Or yeah, I did a couple. Yeah. Yeah, I've had a few of those.

[00:24:15] I know we chatted about NASCAR for like like half an hour on like Twitter and one thread at one point. Oh yeah, heck yeah. Oh, for a long time, I had a sneaking suspicion that you were Aaron. Like I didn't know for sure.

[00:24:28] So I was like a lot of the community thought he was Keith for a long time to there were like, yeah, because no one I'm like, why is this person like following? Why are we all following this this account? Like what happened? How did this happen?

[00:24:41] How does this come to pass? Because he followed all of us and we were like, it has to be somebody on the inside. The Quest 64 Discord used to say the same thing because I've been in the speed run Discord for forever now. And I just never talked.

[00:24:56] I just sat and watched them do things and ha ha ha. And then I go and I'd go on the Twitter and I'd post something with like a little snippet of what one of them said, like I'd be like, take a picture of dinner or something

[00:25:05] and be like, oh yeah, because I'm a fake person and not totally not in amalgamation of all the Quest 64 Discord bots just making me. So that was the thing for forever. They were all blaming each other for me being a two

[00:25:17] and eventually I decided that if I was going to keep, you know, I could only do the thing for so long without coming out and actually talking about games that I like and furthering the Quest 64 experience by being a real person. So yeah, there was a lot.

[00:25:32] I was a lot of people. I've also been told I'm like the Bubsy 3D account as well, which I mean that tracks, but I won't say whether that's me or not. I mean, there's also a way. There's also a Wave Race account going around now.

[00:25:46] Wave Race 64 official. Yep. I do know him. I can't prove to them, not him. But I think that at some point we're working on some stuff together, whether it's like a, you know, fight club style stuff together or actual two people. I do work with him as well.

[00:26:03] Nice. Big old N64 gimmick account podcast. Yeah, something like that. I love podcast. Well, there already is an N64 podcast. Shout out to Dave, by the way. But I'm I tried to get him on, but he's got some stuff going on. But we're thinking he did.

[00:26:19] He did just have a kid. Yeah. Yes, he did. All right. So that was the games we were playing. Now we're on the What Did Dave? Biosection. I bought Star Wars Dark Forces because damn, I love Night Dive Studios. I love these first person shooters.

[00:26:35] I used to I never play this game as a kid. I didn't know what Star Wars was really, because my dad just didn't really like it. And so I played like tons of Star Wars games. Like I played the the Racer Episode One Racer.

[00:26:48] It's a new lap record. I played a co-tour, played a lot of co-tour. I played all these Star Wars games. That's only two. But trust me, I didn't know they were connected. I just thought that that was just two cool words people put together and then whatever.

[00:27:02] I always saw this game in GameStop. This is when I had an Nintendo 64 and I didn't have a PlayStation. Because as far as I wear, as far as I'm aware, not on the N64. But I've always wanted to play this game

[00:27:15] because I love these old school first person shooters and I love Night Dive because they've been porting all my beloved Torok games. And so I got to give them every cent that I possibly can. They just put out a P.O.D. as well

[00:27:26] for anyone that wants to experience that mediocre FPS from the 3DO. Man, it's super cool. And the system shock thing is happening too. There's so many games I want to play but I'm going to stick with Dark Forces right now

[00:27:40] because I've got to remain loyal to my Night Dive studios. Which speaking of, you saw that and you saw they put Torok on the Nintendo online thing. Yeah, I was like, OK, sure. There's a much better version on the store already. It may be so.

[00:27:53] I'm like, oh my God, why do they do my Night Dive like that? It was Torok and then there's... What is it? Perfect. Perfect Dark. Perfect Dark. It's also a fucking really good port of that already. Yeah, because the N64 version of Perfect Dark

[00:28:09] barely functions with the expansion pack, let alone without it. So... It's so funny. I don't want to talk about it. It's just going to make me mad. We have new P.O.D. updates. We... All right, so listen. You might have noticed that Philip's not here.

[00:28:21] I hope 30 minutes in that you haven't heard Philip's voice yet. Well, every other... We're not going to say nothing set in stone because as soon as I do that, we're going to do the complete opposite. So probably every other episode, Philip's got a lot on his plate.

[00:28:35] He's moving to Alaska and stuff. I don't even know if that's public knowledge yet, but it is now. And I don't know when that's happening, but until all of that is done and settled, he's probably going to not be on the show for every single episode.

[00:28:49] So we'll have him for as long as many times as we can possibly get him, but I'm going to take a lot of the responsibilities and all of the editing and shit. I'm going to have to do that too, but that's going to be where Philip is at.

[00:29:04] So nothing bad has happened. He's just chilling with his family. Other than that, we've got our Patreon. Oh, shit, I didn't get the patrons. Hold on. Get patreon.com slash gaming together pod question mark maybe possibly where you can go and support us monetarily.

[00:29:20] If you don't want to, you can always give us a rating on your podcast catchers, reviews, all that stuff that really helps us out. If you review us or if you leave comments on Spotify, we'll read it out right here. But besides that, we've got Berserker this

[00:29:33] Mr. Quang and saying cracker 04 Nikolai at night and the intergalactic client cast. Thank you God for you guys. You guys are keeping the lights on over here in our Zencaster studio. Anyway, we're going to take a break and we're going to do the Am I the assholes? Yeah.

[00:29:53] Music play. Super stoked that you're a big fan of Night Dive too. Like I didn't want to like jump all over you there, but like I've been like high, like high five and night dive in the dark. Like we both follow each other on Twitter as well.

[00:30:06] And I got there. They have a they have a streamer. I love your if your friends with her on there or Miss Slaughter Kells. I got her to stream quest last weekend and give away a copy of quest quest collection, which is fun because that means,

[00:30:21] you know, I got officially got Night Dive to stream quest 64 before I'm like, all right, guys, you know who'd be really great at remaking this game like in hit. Like I've been done it a few times. It's not in their wheelhouse at all, but how awesome.

[00:30:36] Like I would just love that. Like just release a compilation. There's three quest games. Just put them all on a disc. It'd be super fun. I promise. They're doing crazy. They're doing a killing time pretty soon as well, which is going to be awesome. Yeah.

[00:30:50] And I mean, like all their games are great. Like they the selection of the games that they've been doing is like pristine. So you don't want to muck that up with quest 64, but still I absolutely do.

[00:31:01] I mean, like I have to do what them to muck it up with 64. They did P.O. And I mean, they've already lowered their standards enough as it is, but like aesthetically, that fits in their wheelhouse. Like that's something that's the game where the first enemy

[00:31:15] on screen is literally an ass that shoots. She didn't. So I just need to rock rage wars. Come on. Come on. We got to rock three. We can we can get rage wars as well. I don't know what it's like just a multiplayer. It doesn't matter.

[00:31:27] They come out of nowhere and do the South Park game. Yeah, dude, with the peeing on the snowballs. Do I didn't understand? I didn't get the joke. I just thought the snowball like, you know, Dragon Ball Z existed at the time they turned yellow.

[00:31:38] I just was like, OK, I guess super strong yellow makes sense. Yeah. All right. We are back. Am I the asshole? We're doing all of that. Do either of you have any assholes that you've gotten off of the toilet paper sheet

[00:31:50] that you'd like to share to the class? I put them up with them. Well, there's a Mario Party right at the top. Like I didn't even realize that. All right, who wants to go first? Who likes to read?

[00:32:01] I'm terrible at reading, but I'll go first if you want. All right, first of all, this is from Schrodinger's Cat 42, which also looks like a main account. I just realized this isn't even I am the asshole. This is I am the butt face.

[00:32:16] Yeah, one of the many knockoff am I the asshole account? So maybe this person got kicked out of there. This is definitely this is definitely a main account. I'm like scrolling. They post on anesthesiology at the bar by sexual. I got the mature content, content warning.

[00:32:35] Great. Yeah, mature content that this person posts. So hopefully this one is. Within the realm of reason, but let's hit it up. OK, so would would I be the butt face for continuing to make Japanese culture my personality? Theoretical.

[00:32:55] So I I'm 22 female and something that will be relevant in this post is that I lived in Japan from ages nine to 12 and began and then again from ages 16 to 18. Yesterday, I mentioned to another friend, Amber, it's always like an amber, I swear,

[00:33:12] that I was I was proud of how my bonsai are growing. I adore plants. At this point, Amber accused me of making Japanese culture my personality and said it is inappropriate since I'm not Japanese. She pointed out that a lot of my hobbies

[00:33:27] relate to Japan and said that it's a bit cringy. She rattled off examples. I cook Japanese food sometimes. I grow bonsai. I enjoy Iki. I apologize. Ikbanah, Ikebana, Ikebana, I apologize. Like the beer. Yeah. And have Japanese stationary and clothing accessories and perfume.

[00:33:47] I do a sport that's tangentially related to Japan. I copy Japanese makeup looks now and then. I have skincare products from Asian brands. I watch anime. I have too many knickknacks that I bought there. The decorations in my room are Japanese.

[00:34:03] I have old pictures on social media of my friends and I wearing kimonos. I listen to music by a Japanese band. Amber knew it must be Japanese from the name. Sorry, back up. Amber sounds like a bitch. I'm not going to lie.

[00:34:16] I pointed out to Amber that I rarely mentioned Japan and that I only told her that I previously lived there after she asked where I moved from. I moved directly from there when I was 18. And that was the last time I moved.

[00:34:29] So it's not like I could give a different answer without lying. I told her I was surprised by how many examples she listed because I don't think what percentage of things I do. I like to do happen to relate to Japan.

[00:34:42] And if I do something, I just do it. I also said we're also surprised by the number. It really was like it was turning into a spreadsheet. Yeah, I mean, once you wear pattern, recognizing ass creatures, like once you start making notes of things,

[00:34:58] you're going to see it everywhere, like the number 23. Yeah, we got we got the kimonos and stuff. I'm like, all right. Like are we talking? Are we at the gym? Like or yeah. I also said it makes sense that I would be influenced by Japanese culture.

[00:35:13] I was exposed to councils, countless advertisements while I was there. And yes, it heavily impacted the things I like, especially regarding makeup, skincare and home decor. I don't try to make myself look like I'm a different race with makeup. I just adapt looks.

[00:35:28] I just adapt looks for my features. The stationary and clothing items ever mentioned were mostly gifts. I've watched a little bit of anime, but that only represents a tiny fraction of the TV I watch. I have old kimono pictures because there are shops there

[00:35:42] where anyone can pay to be dressed in one and my friends wanted to do it. And also local people volunteered to help dress foreigners in them for this cultural fair I went to. Yes, I have a lot of knickknacks that I brought there

[00:35:54] because I was there for years. I asked Amber if she seriously doesn't have any knickknacks from the state she came from. She does, but she says it's not the same and that she doesn't have as many knickknacks as me or make it her identity.

[00:36:06] As for the band I listened to, I went to school with someone who's part of it. So it makes sense that I would listen. I had something. So whenever I saw the I listened to Japanese band

[00:36:17] and I was like, oh, OK, like you listen to only Japanese music. No, one band is out of all the other bands. Yeah, it's a little weird. This Amber person sounds like a piece of work. I'm not going to lie.

[00:36:29] Amber had a sort of whatever reaction to this explanation and she says that I'm being defensive. Would I be the butt face for continuing to do the things I like to do? Edit. I spent a lot of time on a navy base.

[00:36:41] So I think Amber thinks I'm exaggerating the effects of living their hat on me. She also said that my siblings don't have many hobbies, things from there, which is true, but they're different people who like different things. Well, shocker. So I'm not going to lie.

[00:36:56] I mean, yeah, she definitely likes a lot of Japanese things, but like who really cares that much? Well, the other thing is that she nine, nine, ten, eleven and twelve. She lived there and then 16, 17, 18. That's a significant amount of your developmental face if you like. Yeah. Right.

[00:37:16] It's also like the fact that I'm like, I hate to break it to this Amber person, but have you seen the amount of weaves there are now? I mean, who are probably worse than this person and they probably have less reason to be.

[00:37:27] Yeah, this is only one year ago. Yeah. Looking at the comments, it seems the majority of people are agreeing that she is not the butt face. I'm trying to find someone who says she is one comment said, get rid of Amber. She's not a friend.

[00:37:43] Yeah, people are extreme on Reddit. If I can play devil's advocate, I don't think she's an asshole for it. But if you're able to list like 20 plus things that maybe bother people like that are in one subgenre of ways to bother people, which is,

[00:37:59] you know, this one is I'm a little weebish. Like if you're able to list 20 things about yourself, they're like, yeah, maybe these bother people then maybe like diet. Maybe that means that you're doing it too much in public. You're not just like genuinely enjoying stuff, but you like

[00:38:13] projected into every conversation or maybe she's like taking it places where it doesn't need to be like if you're going to the golden crown for brunch or something, you probably don't need to like bring Final Fantasy 8 figurines with you to put at the table and stuff like that.

[00:38:28] I'm not. This is just an example. Like I'm not saying she did that, but I just I just with Quistis. I almost you almost need to see a picture of her room to just know how like how crazy is it?

[00:38:39] Like is it is it, you know, is it like Bill's room where it's it's all right, you know, it's tastefully done. And he's not like Renault here for forcing it. The episode forcing it on anybody or is it like

[00:38:50] like the whole apartment, you know, and like do they make you that you make you like take off your shoes and put on sandals and walk on like straw mats for the whole house? Or is it like, is she just is it just part of it?

[00:39:01] Is it like legitimately part of her? Like, you know what I mean? Like if she's just wearing hoodies and not talking about it, but Amber is just really up in her business. Like we don't know the subcontext to all of this.

[00:39:12] Yeah, it's not exactly clear in that regard. I mean, from the way it sounds like it sounds like she isn't super aggressive about it. It's just a kind of part of her. But granted, we don't really know because they didn't really go too deep into it.

[00:39:27] It would be difficult to spend a third of your life in a place and not like have a lot of that influence you, especially. It's different if it was like you were you were one and then you stay there till you were like eight or nine

[00:39:40] and then you move to Texas. You know what I mean? It's like there are some places where the culture is very thick, like when you go to when you go to California, Texas or Hawaii, like you're going to have some like

[00:39:54] you're going to have a low a luau or whatever. You know what I mean? Like whatever you come to the States, I don't know. I don't come up to New England and realize people here are kind of jerks.

[00:40:04] Well, see, I live in Wisconsin and in the valley where I live, we have one of the largest among populations, so people from Laos in the country here and Chicago are just crazy full of people from Laos. And I still have friends that come here

[00:40:19] and they're and like I can go down the street to like like an Asian deli market and get awesome egg rolls and like pork and purple sticky rice and stuff. And I do because the food's cheap and it's awesome.

[00:40:32] And they're like, aren't you like isn't that a little weird? Like you go into the Asian store and they're like, you know, like wave to them because I'm in there all the time. And then they're like, aren't you kind of like like freaked out by that?

[00:40:44] Like, isn't that kind of you're like kind of going to a store that's supposed to be like a safe space for another culture? Because most of those Asian grocery stores are geared towards people of their culture to come in and buy groceries and stuff.

[00:40:57] Not just like not just the white guy who likes Quest 64 coming in and raiding the deli because the food's awesome, you know. So, you know, contextually like, yeah, it's a little weird that I go in there and eat their food all the time.

[00:41:09] But I mean, in the overall picture, that's just one thing I eat. So as long as it's not like everything you do is well, I have to go to the store today and that's the only store you go to.

[00:41:19] That reminds me, this is something that comes up a lot because a lot of Am I the Assels revolve around like race and cultural appropriation and stuff like that? Me and Philip always talk about a lot of cultures

[00:41:29] really genuinely just like seeing their cultures represented by other people. Yeah. What was that one movie? The Ghost in the Show. Do you remember who there was a live action? Oh, yeah. Scarlett Johansson. Yeah. Yeah. Scarlett Johansson.

[00:41:43] So there was a video of people in Tokyo going around showing the the the theater poster thing, right? With Scarlett Johansson on it and going, hey, what do you think about this? And almost everyone unanimously was just like, she's beautiful. Or like, I love this is in America.

[00:42:00] There's awesome. Ghost in the Shells in America. You know, a lot of people were like, oh, shit, that's really cool. And why didn't they cast an Asian person? That's what that's the whole narrative over here. But everybody else is like, no, awesome.

[00:42:10] I'm really pretty sure like the I think I might be wrong. I'm pretty sure like the person behind Ghost of the Shell in Japan actually wanted it that way, too, or something like that. It's just. Yeah. In this case, we are the assholes like America was the assholes

[00:42:24] and that's in that scenario. I mean, it wasn't like the Netflix Death Note movie, which I personally love because it's such a dumpster fire of a film. But like I wonder how they thought about that one. Yeah, they probably don't like to talk about that one.

[00:42:38] Oh, it's great because it's such a fucking shit show. It's such a it's it's an experience. That's all I'll say. I'm sure they were big fans of the live action Dragon Ball Z movie, too. Like they probably just love that. Toriyama was totally behind it. Yeah, he wasn't.

[00:42:53] Totally wasn't. Yeah. RIP, buddy. All right. So are we are we considering this person not the butt face? Yeah, I think they're fine. Yeah. All right. Sounds like Amber just has a problem with Japanese culture or something. I don't know. Mr. or Mrs. Schrodinger's Cat 42, you pass.

[00:43:15] You are you are OK in our book. All right. So we have got Mike's now. From Spang, Hugh, which this might also be a main account. No, they're posting and piercing and am I the asshole commenting on all kinds of stuff on popular opinions? About America's Got Talent.

[00:43:38] OK, so this is I don't know. They just don't really use Reddit. This might be a main account. Probably a main. It looks main to me. All right, let's get it. Let's get it going. Am I the asshole for not giving up my character on Super Mario Party

[00:43:51] is the title of this one. So so I 16 female was at a family gathering at my aunt's house. And there were four of us playing Super Mario Party on the switch, one of which was Gabby, eight female, who I am not related to.

[00:44:07] But she is my cousin's partner's daughter. Can you? Yeah. Anyway, we were on the character select screen and Gabby was taking forever to choose. And the rest of us had already picked characters. I chose Daisy. Eventually, Gabby decided that she wanted to be Daisy.

[00:44:25] But since I had already picked her, she couldn't. She started shouting at me to let her be Daisy. But I stood in my ground and said, yeah. So she ended up having a tantrum and was screaming and crying about it.

[00:44:37] After we finished playing, my aunt took me into the other room to talk about the whole thing. And she said, I have not been. I should have not been sorry, so petty and to just let Gabby be that character. But I think it's important that kids know

[00:44:54] that they can't have everything that they they want by begging or having a tantrum, especially since Gabby is quite spoiled. My aunt said that I was the asshole for the fact for that fact and that she had to deal with Gabby's tantrum afterwards.

[00:45:09] I do feel a little bad because Gabby is only eight, but at the same time, she is very annoying. And I feel like and I feel like she is a bit too old to be acting like she did over a game character.

[00:45:21] So am I the asshole for standing my ground? Yeah, problem. Wow. Yeah, you know, I think she swung me at the end. I think she laid out some points. She got she got her point across. Yeah, but then you started ripping on a kid.

[00:45:35] Like, remember that this year, like I have a six year old. If he starts if he wants to play video games with me, you just kind of like like I'm not going to let him win. But like you give him the free pass.

[00:45:47] Like you pick the characters for sure, whatever Mario Kart you want or whoever you want. Like because you're going to get you're going to get a beating regardless of how this goes. So, you know, have fun at the beginning here,

[00:45:58] like have your giggles because this is going to get rough. See, this I'm a bit torn. Like this does seem like a case where like this is parents don't want to be parents kind of thing. But at the same time, like if I was in that situation,

[00:46:09] I would have just given her the character just to get on with it. Exactly. How easy this could have been diffused in like five seconds. Like you wouldn't even be on Reddit about it. Yeah, also about money. It's about the principle. I love reading the comments

[00:46:21] because this is clearly like a lot of cases of like Redditors just hating children. Yeah, gamers without kids. Yeah, yeah, because like it's it's very clear that they're all like this kid's this kid's a brat and they're just very very not nice down here.

[00:46:38] You have you guys have kids? Do you have kids? No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Neighbors of the children, Philip has Philip as children. That's half of what's what's keeping him from the episode today. I've got a big pile of kids. So maybe I maybe I just

[00:46:52] maybe I sympathize a little more with the children in this scenario. But my kids are also great. This sounds like a case of like both sides are kind of in the wrong here. Like I get like that the what the where the the teenagers coming from here.

[00:47:08] But at the same time, it's like you really this could have been avoided so easily. Yeah, you can only punch down on kids for so long before they throw a fit. Like, you know what I mean? Like, like it doesn't matter what the thing is, like, no,

[00:47:19] you can't have a peanut butter and jelly or, you know, like I'm taking the last mountain do like you can only do that for so long. Even if you're in the right before they just freak out. So you just like you let them win the easy battles

[00:47:29] and then you make them go to better like it's really simple, like ABC stuff. Like you're going to be the kid in most in most like like, you know, both physically and emotionally, you're going to win over a child most of the time.

[00:47:42] So just give them the little victories and then go to bed knowing that you're the adult in the situation. Yeah, one thing. So she did point out so she mentioned somewhere in here that Gabby is quite spoiled and people tend to already let her

[00:47:57] just get whatever she wants. And so I think so I'm trying to imagine the situation or where everyone had already picked their character like a minute has passed, maybe even two. And Gabby staring at the screen and she goes, I want Daisy

[00:48:13] like I'm trying to make this kid the worst kid in the world. Yeah, yeah, I want Daisy. And then and then O.P. here spring. He was like, no, I picked Daisy. Why do I got to pick up? And then she starts, I want Daisy.

[00:48:27] Start screaming like I'm like, if this is what the kid is like, then I kind of understand like maybe this kid needs to learn that you don't always give what you want, which is something that she was saying as well.

[00:48:37] But it's also like I don't know how to I don't know how to counterbalance that when I'm not the parent and she's 60 and she probably doesn't understand that either. Yeah. But we've all gone to school with some of the kids that never got told no.

[00:48:52] Right. And then they won't they just take every like, I don't want Gabby to grow up like that. I want Gabby to be better than that. But I don't know how to fix this. I don't know if this is how you fix it or not.

[00:49:03] Well, if you if you don't have kids, the way to fix that is let her have Daisy, but make sure you sit next to her while you're playing. And then every time you beat her in the game, like, how are you doing with Daisy now?

[00:49:12] How's that going for you? Like you just you just met a warfare. You just rub it in the whole time. Like and then you're like, baby, next time I'll be Daisy and you'll be some other loser character.

[00:49:22] Like you just go out of your way to make sure she never gets a star. Yeah. Yeah. No, that doesn't work in Mario Party. They'll give out the pity star. They always do that. They give someone the star. I don't know. We got a lot of good.

[00:49:36] We got a lot of good suggestions here. But is this person an asshole? Hmm, I think they are because like you said, it's so easily diffused. It's like fighting a stranger in public. Like just if somebody is like complaining about

[00:49:48] I was in line before you, if you got like to the McDonald's line at the same time, just step out of the way and then make fun of them at home on Reddit. Like you don't have to let you can just diffuse the situation

[00:49:58] instantly, just you're also being an asshole. Just be bigger. Yeah. It's just a it's just a game character. Like, does it really matter that much? Yeah, in a game where the character doesn't really I mean, the dice matter. Let's be real.

[00:50:12] Like there is very real things there, but you know, it's just it's just Mario Party against your family members. You're going to win, right? Like we're all going to win. Maybe. Yeah. The yeah. Rule number six, the name by the asshole

[00:50:27] gaming together is that if it's a kid posting it, then it is automatically there. The asshole. So I guess I'm going to go with that. I love to that you can clearly tell everyone in this like this thread is also probably a child. Yeah.

[00:50:42] I like not the ad. But what is this? I just want to look at poor says not the asshole, not your kid, not your problem. Yeah, that sounds like Reddit. Don't know if that's how it works, but it's insane. Little insane.

[00:51:00] All right, let me go find one really quick. Let's go find actually the one at the very top. OK, hold on. I got to make this gray before Philip screams at me. How do I do that? Phil Gray. Perfect. Now, what was the other one we did?

[00:51:17] We did the anime one. Yeah. Gray. Perfect. Nice. Nothing to complain about. Now this top one right here. Oh, the other number four. Oh boy. Yeah, let's go Mario Party. Mario partying out. Is this long? No. I picked another long one. Oh, geez. All right.

[00:51:40] This one from hides 25, which again, looks like another. This is another main account. We've never had the right like this. They they post in our dance moms. Oh boy. Our dance moms. What is the grass? Oh, the grass. No. This is RuPaul's drag race.

[00:52:00] Oh, it said just as drag race. All right. Well, they post in it seems to be everything because they're also posting in comics, watch people die inside. Yeah. Recting makeup addiction, addiction. Yeah. The Sims lasted. Oh, gosh, this person's just every.

[00:52:15] Yeah, this is this is totally a main. This is one of those people that used to sit on Yahoo answers and just ruin everybody's night like before they were. Yeah, like on Quora. What is this? Am I the asshole for not letting a boy play my gaming system

[00:52:31] because his father wouldn't let his daughter play? That is complex. Edit spelling and grammar. OK. I was on a mis a cons. Fuck, I was on a considerably empty flight. It was a four a four seat row plane with two seats on each side.

[00:52:51] OK, that one actually was the O. Peaceful there was a family of four sitting near me. Mom, dad, daughter and son that moved around quite a bit as there were many available seats to move about in and the kids. My guess my guess girl was eight nine.

[00:53:06] Boy told me he was six. We're moving around, but for the most part, behaving. OK, I don't know if you guys have noticed, but I kind of have reading problems. So when they have bad grammar, it like completely throws my brain for a loop.

[00:53:18] It's difficult for me after takeoff. I took out my switch to pass the time and caught the little boys attention. He started asking questions and I got the nod of approval from the dad. So I started showing him Breath of the Wild gameplay.

[00:53:31] We still had about an hour of fly time. So I figured why not? I let him play Mario Party. I asked the dad, he was closest to me if it would be all right if they played a game. He seemed happy with the idea

[00:53:44] until I handed one of the two controllers I had to his daughter. He said something to her in a different language. I didn't understand. She fussed a little and then handed me back the controllers saying she can't play. It doesn't take much to put two and two together.

[00:53:58] OK, wait a minute. It doesn't take much. Hold on. So the girl is a lot older. Right. And it doesn't say what race they are. So they're speaking in different languages. Things are kind of complex here. It's a difficult story.

[00:54:12] I didn't want to defy her father's wishes or make a scene, but I couldn't help ask why she couldn't play hoping I was wrong. Girls shouldn't play video games. His face and tone so matter of factly. He said this to me, a 27 year old woman.

[00:54:28] And I admit I got upset, but I couldn't argue. I just told him that if she couldn't play, I wouldn't let a son play either. This is when things really went south. The son, of course, got upset and started to cry a bit.

[00:54:43] The dad started raising his voice at me and the daughter was trying to assure me that it was OK, even though she was clearly sad. The wife tried calming her husband and kids, but she wasn't getting anywhere. I collected my controller from the son

[00:54:58] and it hurt to pull away, but it just wasn't fair. I hated upsetting him. But as a girl who was once told the video games were boy only, I wasn't comfortable with that rule apply to my system. We were near the back, so a flight attendant came around

[00:55:15] to check what was going on. And the dad went into a tirade about how I purposefully dangled the video game in front of his kids that changed my mind to be cruel. I couldn't really explain myself.

[00:55:28] I just said I couldn't let them play if the sister wasn't allowed to. The flight attendant just looked at the father and said, I didn't have to share if I didn't want to since it was my system. And he started ranting in another language.

[00:55:40] I asked I asked to move and he said, yes, as it was a fairly empty flight, I moved to the front. But at this point, all the passengers had to turn and look at us. And now the two kids were crying and the angry father. Period.

[00:55:53] It'd been bothering me since it happened. And I'm wondering if I should have just let the boy play. It wasn't his fault. His father set the rules and it really tore me up about having to pull the controller away from him.

[00:56:04] Am I the asshole for not finding a better solution or for offering in the first place? What should I have done? OK, there's an edit, but what are our thoughts right now? That was a lot. Mistake number one was interacting with humans on a flight.

[00:56:19] In my opinion, that's just me, though. Everyone's grump grumply, umpily on the on the plane. There's no walking away. There's no being the bigger person. I mean, luckily, they see it. But like you can't get away on a flight. You're stuck. Stuck in that air tube.

[00:56:34] I wouldn't have offered like even if my kids weren't along. I still wouldn't like. First of all, it's weird that she was interacting with another child. Like you're an adult, 27, interacting with what do we say? Seven and eight year olds.

[00:56:47] Like yeah, if they didn't come over and talk to you and get like the nod from their parents in the first place, like, oh yeah, that's an acceptable stranger for you to talk to because we can see you or like I just be like, all right,

[00:56:58] I just put my fake headphones on and that would be the end of it. You know, but I mean, it would also been OK to let the boy play and then hopes that the dad would soften up a little bit.

[00:57:08] Like if the boy and the girl were sitting next to you and the boy was having fun, maybe the dad would be like, OK, maybe she can play with her brother a little bit and everybody could have been happy.

[00:57:17] Maybe that's like the the sunny side up like version. Like that was never going to happen, but maybe in my head, you know, there's always a beat it once again, be the bigger person, maybe. But more likely it's just I would just put in like

[00:57:30] put my headphones in and not turn anything on and stop talking to them entirely and just hope that the problem went away. Like yeah, like my thing on planes is like I don't even like to interact with the people next to me in the seats.

[00:57:41] Like I just I want to just get from one place to the other. So that was her big mistake here. I don't want to make assumptions of the whatever country the father is from because it's not really clear. He sounds like he was a piece of work regardless.

[00:57:57] Yeah, so I don't know if there was really any solution here. He was also the asshole to be clear. Well, yeah, he was definitely the asshole in this situation. I I don't think the person was the asshole here. I think she made a very miscalculated decision

[00:58:14] and she had to pay the consequences for it. Yeah, I don't disagree with her, though, considering the guy was outwardly sexist and then like, especially the fact that we find that the part of the OP is also a female.

[00:58:28] Like I could understand why she would make the decision she did. I just feel like that makes it puzzling, doesn't it? To be a girl shouldn't play a game as you're she's holding the game console. Like yeah, what do you mean? I have a game.

[00:58:41] It's a weird situation like entirely. I think, honestly, OP's biggest mistake was just interacting. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so I was thinking because it's like it's a it's an airplane. I think at the beginning she was playing her switch

[00:58:54] and the kids were like right next to her. I think they were like with an eye shot. And so the kid was just noticeably watching her play. So she kind of angled so that she could he could watch her play Breath of the Wild and stuff like that.

[00:59:06] And I think that's where the original interaction came from. Um, I here's the it's the it's really weird because it's this person's kids. So I mean, it's whatever. But once she once she offered and they said only the boy,

[00:59:20] I don't know how it's it's harder to take the game away than to just let the boy play instead of the girl in my head. I'm kind of I guess I'm a coward in that way. I'm just like, OK, I guess whatever.

[00:59:33] But my I wouldn't go into this direction no matter what because I am an anxious person. And the first thing I would think of was what if one of the kids broke my joy con, right? Or broke the switch somehow.

[00:59:46] And it's not that I care if my switch is broken. It's that it would be broken in front of the parents and the parents would that would be a situation, right? We would suddenly be in a situation where I don't

[00:59:58] I'm not going to be like, oh, you got to reimburse me. I just be like, oh, that sucks. But then I don't know how the parents are going to react. I don't know how the kids are going to react.

[01:00:04] And I would I try to keep myself out of situations as much as humanly possible. But I also like interacting with people who are interested in video games. So this is a weird spot for me. You were going for like non confrontational and that's good.

[01:00:18] Like I feel like even though you're saying, you know, I don't want to do this and I don't like this and I'm anxious. Like in the way you're doing the right thing by being cautious

[01:00:27] and you end up looking like a good person when you do things like that. Like she said there was there was an hour. Then she said there was like less than an hour left of her flight or something. If the kids are watching you play Breath of Wild,

[01:00:37] like you have to put your seatbelts on and put your shit away in like what a half hour 45 minutes anyway. Just let them watch you play Breath of the Wild and just have that be that. Why did you like knowing the time limit?

[01:00:48] It's not like you're on an eight hour flight and you're going to deal with these kids for the rest of the day. Like just let them watch you play for 20 minutes and maybe they'll get bored and go away.

[01:00:55] Like, you know, yeah, kids really do get bored pretty fast. Yeah, a lot of things happening on a flight. Like they'll probably start don't they have like screens where they play movies and stuff? Yeah, depends on the plane. Or, you know, looking out the window

[01:01:07] even gets my kids distracted on planes. So yeah. Oh, I almost forgot. OK, there's an edit here. It's a whole paragraph. So maybe this changes our opinions. Edit, I came to the subreddit because I felt slash feel incredibly guilty.

[01:01:22] I made a very impulsive decision based on my feelings and didn't consider the feelings of the boy until after I changed seats. I was embarrassed because no one in the plane had really started paying attention until after both kids had started crying

[01:01:35] and the father was making a fuss during the rest of the flight. I kept thinking that if I had just played with the boy and instead of upsetting the entire family and myself, it would have only been one person not to mention the scene would have been avoided.

[01:01:49] I was embarrassed and mortified. The flight attendant had to come over. Flight flights are tough on everyone. And I definitely created waves. Plus, who doesn't feel guilty about making kids cry? I'd been torn about whether I did best

[01:02:01] the best I could do or if I could have done something better. There's no way I'll make an impact on the little girl's life. But I also ruined the flight for the family. Regardless, I'll probably forever remember this day as one of my least favorites.

[01:02:14] It's been a battle just trying to get over it. This was traumatizing for the OPE. That didn't really add anything, though. No, that was just maybe four years. She needed to get more off her chest there, I guess. Yeah, that's more of the same stuff.

[01:02:29] And like we said, yeah, you could let the kids play. But I mean, that was maybe that wasn't going to avoid the end result anyway. Maybe the dab of the gotten pissed where the kid would have been angry at the game

[01:02:39] and started crying about Mario Party instead or whatever. You don't know. Like you just had to avoid the whole thing. Yeah, so I would say like we're going to go into the verdict here. I there's a tinge of asshole, like a little bit because it's a little confrontational

[01:02:54] that she didn't really consider the boy. She acknowledged that at the end. But it's also like she couldn't have known what this dialogue tree, this path would have gone. She didn't know that it was going to like results and like everyone getting super upset.

[01:03:08] So I feel like if she had the foresight of that, she probably would have. And I think she admitted at the end, she's like, I probably should have just played. And then it would only have been the girl that was upset.

[01:03:19] But then again, it's like, what if that girl remembers the random lady on the flight that stood up for her? I don't think she's going to because it seems like she was also upset about the whole situation. But yeah, some of these people overestimate

[01:03:31] how much kids at this age remember. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I took my kid to Disneyland when she was seven. She doesn't remember any of it. Well, no, like they know what Disney is. We were there for two days. Considering.

[01:03:45] It's like half her life. Yeah. Considering this post was five years ago. I don't think those kids remember in the slightest. And then she there's like a voted comment that's one of the kids from three days ago. Dr. La Traumatized they are. That was me.

[01:04:04] Sure. I'm sure it was. I'm leaning to more towards not the asshole than an asshole, not the asshole. She is an asshole, but like we're ranking the tier list of the assholes like the dad so far above. Like he's like S rank here for being, you know, sexist

[01:04:20] and then also being an asshole. Like he's got the combo and she's just a normal asshole. What her decision was pretty bad, like a way of handling it. Yeah. Honestly, I still think her biggest mistake was just interacting period, but that's here nor there.

[01:04:37] And there's nothing really funny going on in the comments either. They're just kind of just re- No, it's typical reddit. They hate children, so they're just continued to high along. All right. Well, that was the aim of the assholes. And we're going to take another little break

[01:04:52] after this music. We're going to talk about Mario Party. Which one? Three, I think. Yes. That's what the doc says. We're back. Mario Party three. Release on the Nintendo 64 May 6, 2001. Published by Nintendo, developed by Nintendo. I imagine there's some kind of secret organization in there.

[01:05:14] Hudson Soft. Hudson Soft. Oh, with the bee. Yep. A little bee. Because Hudson made the first eight before Konami obliterated them. Oh, Konami, my favorite publisher. Yeah. There is no store description because this game came out on the N64.

[01:05:33] But do either of you have any history preconceptions with the Mario Party games? How did you come to start playing them? How'd you hear about them? What were your first memories of them? Which one was the first you played? Any of that?

[01:05:45] I'll go first just because mine's really short. I did not have a Nintendo console until the week. So my first Mario Party was eight. I'll leave it at that. The one that killed Hudson. It didn't kill Hudson. Konami killed Hudson. Oh. I had the first one.

[01:06:03] I had an N64 and I had the first Mario Party. I didn't own the other two until I was much older. But the first one we played the absolute pants off of because once I had a brother and my parents came to us and stuff.

[01:06:15] So I was one of those. One of those typical children that rubbed all the skin off of your hand, winding up the shy guy, like trying to get the longest. It wasn't the minigames for us. It was I got so frustrated because I thought that there was

[01:06:30] some unlockable lock behind that shy guy toy in the buy everything shop area there. So like you get it further and further and keep breaking your record. I'm like, there's got to be, you know, when I get to triple digit distance, there's got to be an unlockable.

[01:06:43] And then if I get to 150, there's got and there was never like there was one unlockable and it was way before that. And I just ruined my hand like doing that. But we had lots of good times with the original Mario Party tons of time.

[01:06:54] Did you mail in for the glove? I did not go for the hair banger, which if you've never seen the gloves, a couple of them have popped up, but they're not they're not like Brandon Nintendo or anything because Nintendo was fully intending on nobody

[01:07:07] redeeming it, which is exactly what happened in the lawsuit. So they're just weightlifting, fingerless, weightlifting gloves from a pretty popular weightlifting like like company from that time. So you can find ones that are really similar to them that they still make today.

[01:07:20] But yeah, no, ah, no, I didn't mail in like I was, Christ, I was like 12, 14. I don't know how old I was. But yeah, my first one, I didn't keep receipts like we barely kept boxes, which you know is the bane of our existence now.

[01:07:35] But like, yeah, no, we were I was moved well on to other games by the perfect dark and golden eye and stuff and wrestling some more. No weightlifting gloves. I I played all the Mario Party as well on the Nintendo 64.

[01:07:52] I have the Nintendo 64 for most of the generation. And then eventually my dad sold it and got a PlayStation for me. But I didn't really like these games because I really never had people to play with.

[01:08:05] And so in the losing to the computer sucks, it makes me so mad. But I had a friend who would come over and he would bring over. Did you guys ever play the Rugrats Mario Party game on the 64? Treasure Hunt. Yeah, something like that. He insisted.

[01:08:21] I don't even remember this kid's name, but I specifically have memories of this kid insisting that this Rugrats game was better than Mario Party. And so we always ended up playing that at some point. And I just remember hating that.

[01:08:32] I don't remember anything about that game, except how ugly Tommy Pickles looked. Everyone looked so ugly. It's like the other the other Rugrats game, the Paris one actually had really, really good mini games. The game, the single player game to unlock them was terrible.

[01:08:47] But like I had that on PlayStation as well. Yeah, playing those mini games with friends now with like beers and stuff. There's something charming about playing a game that's not perfect, but making everybody do it at the same time, especially if you're drinking.

[01:08:59] Like I will say, though, fuck the mini golf. I fucking hate that shit. Yeah, sure. Took fucking forever. The same with the bumper cars underneath the like that where you had to like go through or hit arrows or checkpoint arrows. Like you couldn't drive the things.

[01:09:13] But luckily once again, nobody could drive them. So like there's a there's like a level playing field with good games. Like everybody can be skilled. But when you're having a bad game and everybody's having a bad time,

[01:09:23] like there's some there's some awesome stuff that happens when that's going on. Yeah, look at the notes. Look at this Tommy. Look at this Tommy Pickles. Are you? Yeah. Look at this fucking creature. He is horrifying, man. I don't think you ever send me the notes. Oh shit.

[01:09:40] Bill has been on the notes all time. Hold on. Pace boom. All right. That's how little the notes matter. You're listening. It's been running blind for about an hour. Do you see this Tommy Pickles? It's that's about what the Rugrats in Paris game looked like.

[01:09:56] He looks like a creepy Basta. Yes, it'll probably be in the thumbnail. I don't know. Grandpa Lou in the back is also equally creepy, mostly because he disembodied head coming out of Tommy's head. So at least he doesn't look like the like South Park version

[01:10:09] of Canadians where the mouth just like chops the whole head in half. That's kind of what Tommy looks like here. A little bit. Yeah. Only saved by his ears there or whatever this like dislocated bone. Whatever. Oh, God, it's awful. It's like a snake. All right.

[01:10:26] What was I talking about? Mario Party 3. That that's what I think about when I think about the originals. Hours played. We can't track that either. This is on the switch. So this is how we I played it or I was supposed to have played it because.

[01:10:42] I have a fucking story for everybody. This whole time I thought I was playing Mario Party 3. But I wasn't. I haven't played a single fucking second of Mario Party. Oh, I think I know what you're doing. You played one with the three dice on the front of it.

[01:10:55] Oh, so you guys know what the fuck happened to me? Yeah. So why did they design it like that? That's weird. So this is how I learned. OK, I was making the notes. I was going to do all this to make them all pretty.

[01:11:06] I have one picture from the whole game is just the character select screen. And I got the mini games with a list. And the third thing was like I was going to do the boards. And I was like, I'm just going to put each board on there

[01:11:15] and image so that's real pretty. We can look at it, talk about it and stuff. And I was looking on the meta or the wiki and they didn't recognize any of the boards. And I'm like, what board did boards? And I'm reading them over and over again.

[01:11:29] Eventually I go to two. There's no way I played two. And then I go to one and I see the boards. And I'm like, there's. And I go to the switch and I see the box art for all of them.

[01:11:39] I could put the box art for Mario Party 1 as the thumbnail for this episode. No one would know. No one would know that it wasn't Mario Party 3 besides us. Well, I would say that a lot of people,

[01:11:49] because that one sold so well, like we didn't think about it when the first one came out because how are we supposed to know there's going to be three of those games? You know what I mean? It was just a dice.

[01:11:58] The big tell to know it's Mario Party 3 is Waluigi and Daisy are on the cover. Yeah. And two is hats. But yeah, if you've never played any of them, absolutely I can see that problem. Or where people are like, oh, that box art with the three.

[01:12:13] Who wouldn't think this was three? It is a very unfortunately placed dice. That's all I'll say. It made me so mad. And so I was standing there staring at the wiki. Like, you know, in what is it? American Psycho, where he's like staring at the business card. Yeah.

[01:12:28] And I was like staring at the fucking. Sweats rolling down your face. I was like, I'm about to, I am 40 minutes away from this episode starting up. And I have not played this fucking game because I thought I was playing it. So I will admit.

[01:12:43] How did you like Mario Party 1? It's fun. Yeah, it's not that bad. The weirdest thing was that the whole time I was playing the, because I've played them all, I was playing those minigames. And I was like, these minigames are really basic for the third Mario Party.

[01:12:57] It's like, and you know, it's like all the pieces were there in my head where I was like, I thought there were other things because I played two, like kind of relatively recently too. I played it on Nintendo Online with some friends and we were drinking.

[01:13:09] And so I just chalked it up to me being drunk and misremembering things. And but I was correct. There were more things that were, it's like, oh no. See, one is a good game, but it is very jank compared to like the two onward.

[01:13:23] Two is probably the most. The most interesting Mario Party just in terms of what Hudson did. I still prefer three though, just because I think three has the most interesting boards in minigames personally, but that's just a mean. My opinion. So coming from somebody who's like really deep

[01:13:39] in the N64 community, one is known for, it doesn't matter how good you are because one, the dice rolls are all predetermined. Like before you roll the dice, they already know what number you're gonna get. Like the generator runs before you even hit the button.

[01:13:54] So you can't, you cannot control what you hit when you jump up and hit the dice. It's impossible. And then the same with the minigames. There is a certain point in Mario Party One where the computers are going to win. There's like invisible rubber banding.

[01:14:08] It's unavoidable, but people like it for that because when you're playing four players, that's all gone minus the dice rolls. And then two is the opposite way. They included too much stuff, like the costumes and the boards and all the stuff and they cut down all the randomness

[01:14:24] and left it purely to skill. You can't see my flying quotes at home, but they left that one too much to skill. So then people were saying, well, when you play against a computer, it's not the same. That doesn't feel like a Mario Party game.

[01:14:36] Well, that's because what you're used to in the Mario Party game is getting your ass handed to you randomly, you know, just randomly because that's and then three, like you said, it's probably the most complete of the games

[01:14:47] because they kind of dialed it in by the time I got to three. But I personally like two, mostly for the themes, the boards, the costumes. And it's not really good with four players. Yeah. That's where the true friendship ending gameplay really began. Yes.

[01:15:06] I like three mostly for there's one particular board and three that we'll probably get to later that is complete bullshit, but I love it for that. Yes, most likely. Well, so we do have the characters here, Mario Luigi Peach, Yoshi, Wario Donkey Kong, all we know and love.

[01:15:27] And then we mentioned before on the box art is Daisy and Waluigi, the two new characters. Who are we picking on this? And then who's going to be the computer boys? I'm always Waluigi every, every time. I think the computer's got to be dumb Donkey Kong, right?

[01:15:42] Unless you're going to be Donkey Kong. I'm usually Bowser in no matter what the game is, what the Mario game is. So then I would have to like instinctually, I think I would go to Wario, but maybe Donkey Kong just because they're kind of like a combination there

[01:15:57] of the heavies. I don't know why, why do you know it's cause my friend group would always have a dumb Donkey Kong and we would have three people and then the computer would just be dumb Donkey Kong. I don't know why we always picked him,

[01:16:10] but I'd probably grab Luigi. I've always been a Luigi guy. Even though I'm the oldest and like my direct siblings, I was still kind of, I would always be a support character. Like I'd let my siblings play and then I would pick up the slack afterwards.

[01:16:26] And I kind of always been that way. So I've always related to Luigi a lot more. So here's a little factoid because I'm big into like the trivia and stuff. Originally Daisy and Waluigi were supposed to be unlockables in this.

[01:16:38] They were just going to have six base characters, but after they play tested it for a while, the play testers in Japan complained that there's only six starting characters, which seems weird for a Mario game. Even though you knew that like the golf,

[01:16:52] like when you play Mario golf, you know off to the side, oh, I'm gonna unlock those people. You know what I mean? But so then they just included Daisy and Waluigi from the beginning and just let them be there.

[01:17:03] And there was everything that was in the Mario Party game was already unlockable, just the characters were up in that beginning. It is cool to see Waluigi in here though. Well, he didn't exist by the time Mario Party 2 came out because he debuted in Mario Tennis.

[01:17:17] Yep, on that screen at the beginning flying across the screen. Why do you need a partner, right? Yeah, exactly. We made up a fan theory on a super pod discussion at Wario and Waluigi are secretly the Scapelli brothers from the Mario Brothers movie. Oh, wait.

[01:17:39] I could ship that, that'd be great. Didn't one of them voice Luigi in the movie, like the most recent ones? That was the voice for Luigi. It was Charlie Day. Was it? Am I just making something up completely out of my ass?

[01:17:57] It was Charlie Day in the new movie and then it was John Liguizamo in the original. In the 80s. I'm tripping ass, yeah. Never mind. So we got the boards. Do you want to talk about the boards or the minigames first? It really doesn't matter.

[01:18:11] Maybe the boards because there's less of them first. Yeah, so I... There's nothing after minigames in our notes listener because I was very distraught whenever I realized I played the wrong game. It's almost better this way because now we get to talk about all the Mario Parties

[01:18:27] in the N64 because we've combined them in our heads and in our hearts. We have the boards here. There's no fast way to do it, so here's just the wiki. And the boards, it's own little thing. Oh wait. Did it work like that? This is weird.

[01:18:48] This is the page though. It doesn't matter. So we got the boards here and they're kind of tiny, so I'm just going to full screen it. I won't be able to see you guys. You guys can do that too. Doesn't really matter too much. But we got Gate...

[01:19:00] Gate Guy. Arrowhead. Pipe Squeak. Blowhard. Mr. Moober and Backtrack. What boards are you looking at? Yeah. Oh no, these are the dual boards. OK, I was like, I was like, I think you're on the wrong game again. Yeah, so this is for dual mode.

[01:19:21] OK, so I'm looking now but now I'm looking at the right boards. Chili waters. Deep Bloober Sea. Spiny Desert. Woody Woods. Creepy Cavern and Waluigi's Island. Best board in the game right there. It looks... This is probably the first one I would pick.

[01:19:38] Are all of these available at the very beginning? I... I can't remember. Do you have to unlock Waluigi Island? Yeah, you need the Star or whatever, or 20 something. You need to do something to unlock the island. So this game does have a story mode.

[01:19:53] The bottom two, in fact, I think. It might even be three. Three or it could have been three maps that you unlock. See, my cartridge already had everything unlocked when I bought it. So... I know the story mode was pretty significant because that's how you unlocked everything. Yeah.

[01:20:11] So what was the story mode? Is it just single player? Yeah, you against computers and you just kind of have to beat them to earn stuff and then continue on. It wasn't like, you know, not RPG style story. It was just, you know,

[01:20:23] like when you're playing a Mario Golf game, like you're just beating the next tournament or whatever. It's not like... Not like the Game Boy Color Mario Golf RPG. Yeah, it's about on the level of like Mario... a DDR Mario mix where there's technically a story

[01:20:38] but it really doesn't matter that much. Ironically, both this game and that game, Waluigi is technically the villain, but that's besides the point. It does seem kind of weird to have Waluigi be the villain and also a playable character. Because Bowser's the villain in Mario Party 1.

[01:20:55] You can't pick Bowser. Because it'd be weird if Bowser showed up and took coins from Bowser, you know what I mean? Yeah, well I think canonically, Waluigi Island was originally Waluigi's Island, but Waluigi hijacked it and that's why it's like chaos the island.

[01:21:11] I mean, that's a good reason. So whenever... So Bill's saying we play Waluigi's Island first. What are you picking first, Mike? I always had a thing for Spiny Desert. Specifically, I don't know why I have this one memory about it, but I played, I'm sure you guys too,

[01:21:26] Final Fantasy 6, Slash 3, or Final Fantasy 3 on SNES. I always think about, for whatever reason, I think about that first moment with Kefka where you're out in the desert and he's like, oh my boots have sand on them. So that was always kind of a dig

[01:21:40] in our friend group was like, oh yeah, I'm up by three stars. Can you push the sand off of my boots while you're down there on the bottom of things? Son of a Submariner. I'm probably going Waluigi's Island also. So just from like looking at it.

[01:21:56] I want to explain my reasoning. This island is like the most trollish island in the entire game. Like there is a loop up in the corner and the gimmick of this loop is every round the circles all change.

[01:22:08] So like you can have an entire thing where it's like chance time or red squares or just basically everything to just cause maximum chaos. And there's an old commentary on that. And I think that's the best way to do it. And there's an old commentary group.

[01:22:22] I don't really watch them anymore, but I did back in the day called Brain Scratch Coms. They did a playthrough of this and one of the commentators, he literally just spent the entire game just going in circles on that board and he ended up winning.

[01:22:33] So every time I play this board, I'm like, I'm just doing that just to see what happens. That's like right. It's maximum chaos. Like it just it's hilarious what happens. Cause also like you get you get bonus stars at the end of the game.

[01:22:46] And it's like the lot of them are like, how many red squares did someone land on or something? Who lost the most coins. Who was best at mini games? Like the mini game stars usually the one that's like the one that proves like this actual skill level. Yeah.

[01:23:00] There is this one thing about these games. At the very beginning, it's like how long do you want the games to be? It's like 20, 35, 50. And I'm always like maybe 50. That doesn't sound like that. It's that long, but each rotation is like eight to 10 minutes long.

[01:23:15] Like you really undervalue how long it takes to play this because there's so many different animations and things happening. I did a 50 turn Mario Party game on Mario Party 8 on the fucking train level. That was the most miserable experience of my life. Just four of us playing that.

[01:23:33] And by like turned like 20, we were like, is it done yet? Yeah. Cause it feels like to get longer as they go too. We always, you know, depending on once again the people I'm playing with or how much we've had to drink, you know, yeah, 50 looks so enticing.

[01:23:47] You're like, we're doing this. This is it. This is what we're doing tonight. And then you get halfway through 15, you're like, this isn't going to change. Nothing's going to change for the next two and a half hours. This is it. It's especially bad in Mario Party 8

[01:23:59] because half the mini games are literally whack-off simulator where you just like go in nuts with the controller. It's like, oh. Yeah, that sucks. Especially because like, I played a lot of Mario Party 1 the past week and a half.

[01:24:15] And you are mostly playing like for free for all games, right? Like 1v1, v1, v1. And I don't know if it's the same in Mario Party 3, especially it's like if people are landing on chance squares or whatever, it'll be green and then it'll kind of flash red

[01:24:31] like it's going to pretend to be red. And then it's like, nah, it's blue. Go ahead. Go have fun. Go nuts. And it makes it to where like there's a really heavy skew in the games. I imagine Mario Party 3 has a lot more variety

[01:24:43] in the free for all games though. Whereas in this game, there's only like really four or five types of games and just play those over and over again. My favorite is like chance time or like, because chance time for those who don't know

[01:24:54] is basically like Bowser enters the frame. He decides, alright, I'm going to fuck with the player somehow. And my favorite is like one of them is Bowser Revolution, which is literally just Bowser communism where he just takes all your coins and just evenly distributes them to every character.

[01:25:09] And it's like, if you had the most, it's basically just a giant middle finger to you. There's this one where it's like 9999 star reward. Yeah, you never do that. I don't know if it's a... Well, you can get it. Yeah. I've seen it on YouTube, someone gets it,

[01:25:24] and he just goes, and then he just like leaves. Yeah. He's like nope. You're not getting those stars, dude. I don't know. I like chance time. There's the, what is the one where it's like, you have the three blocks and then like you hit it.

[01:25:40] It's got everyone's faces on the one on the left and the right and then the middle one is like stars to the left. Oh man. It's really frustrating because it seems to always be negative towards me. I don't know how that happens. Yeah. That's just the game.

[01:25:57] Yeah, it's just a mentality. Like especially if you're playing a 50-round game and the longer you go, the more times you think that this game is trying to like get you. Like, oh, this is obviously a grift against me specifically. Well, so I was playing with Rachel yesterday

[01:26:12] and I had the most coins at the very beginning, so I got a star pretty early on and then we were playing in the Woods level in the first game or I don't remember what level it is honestly. It's one of the first ones.

[01:26:25] And there are two booze that can steal money, but if you pay 50 coins, you can steal a star. And every single time someone went through there, they stole from me. Unless it was me going through there. Then obviously I stole from someone else,

[01:26:38] but every single time it was always from me, even if I didn't have the most coins. And I was like, what is happening? And I ended up, so at the end of the game, you could see who won the most coins in minigames and stuff like that.

[01:26:49] And I had like way more than everyone else. Like I was winning the minigames. Yeah. So I felt like the computers were like that guy. Yeah. And then since I was being stolen from Rachel, it was like, ah, fuck it. I'm gonna steal from you too.

[01:27:00] But I had like three stars at one point and I ended the game with one because I kept getting stars stolen from and then I'd steal them back and then they'd steal them back back and then I'm like, I'm going to lose. I can't keep this up.

[01:27:13] I can't get around the board this one more time. I'm not, I'm too far away. You know one of the most evil things. Oh, sorry. No, you go ahead. You know one of the most evil things you can do is

[01:27:23] so you know how like when you get boo, like you get the option, you can either take a star or you can steal coins. Say like stealing a star is evil enough. But like this to me is even evil because that you just give someone false hope

[01:27:36] where they're right about to get to a star space and you steal their coins just so they can't have it and you're just like, yeah. It feels good. See what you said about, you know how you felt like they were piling up on you.

[01:27:48] The second in my friend group that somebody like says something like that out loud, we make sure that that's what happens for the rest of the game. Mario Party is just much about mental warfare, you know,

[01:27:58] like so if you think that you're getting the coins taken from you, I will make sure that you know that I am taking the coins from you for the rest of the game. You've now audibly said it. Now it's going to happen.

[01:28:09] It was just like every single time someone went to the boo, I could feel Rachel staring at me from the side of the room and then like it would just be like coins Luigi and I just like, oh my God. Oh my God. I only have 14 coins.

[01:28:23] Why are you doing this repeat? See imagine if you were playing on Wall Luigi Island, you had someone like me up in the corner constantly slaying on the fucking spaces. I'm so mad that I didn't play Mario Party 3. I really am a little salty about that.

[01:28:41] It actually makes the episode better though because just being able to add that because that box art is so infamous for that one thing. You know, for the thing that you just talked about. So iconic that that happened to you like in the real time today

[01:28:55] in the Lord's year of 2024. Every year it's going to happen to somebody. Every single year this curse is going to happen to somebody. Well, I won't lie when they first put Mario Party 1 and 2 on the Switch Store because it will the Switch N64 app.

[01:29:11] I still remember like the day because they put one and two first but not three. So when I booted it up, I saw one and two and I immediately was like, Oh fuck yeah, three's on here. And then I hit me. I'm like, it's not three.

[01:29:23] It's not three. Yeah, it's ruthless. It's brutal. It's sad. So we can talk about the mini games now. And now when I pull this up, I see all these. I recognize these. So I didn't need to replay this game to recognize a ton of these.

[01:29:38] We have a lot, a lot, a lot of mini games to look through. It's in the dock there. Do you guys got it pulled up? Yeah, I got it. Do any of these jump out at you? Let's start with the 4v4.

[01:29:49] There is not as many as I would think. Yeah, we didn't really get massive numbers until the Gamecube era. But the variety is there. Yeah, like it's not like Mario Party 1 where everything is kind of like, it's like, are you dodging something or are you?

[01:30:05] It's like, there's a lot of different things we're doing here. The good thing about three was it seemed like it represented like, it was like Nintendo history. Like as you look around here, you see stuff that like, like Messy Memory has got that Yoshi's Island vibe to it.

[01:30:19] And then you have like Chipshot Challenge, which is obviously Gulf, which we didn't have in the other Mario Parties. And then like Cheap Cheap Chase, you're looking at that straight Mario 64 stuff from down in the water level. So it's cool that they represented and showed you history.

[01:30:36] Mario's puzzle party obviously looks a lot like Pokemon puzzle. Or Pokemon puzzle league or paneled upon depending on how technical you want to get about it. You got the beat goes on, which is like a rhythm game kind of thing, which is kind of cool.

[01:30:49] I love it. I love it. Another one that I love, which is one of my favorites. I don't know. It's in Mario Party 1 is this picture imperfect one where like, I don't know exactly how this one works, but in the first one,

[01:31:02] it's literally just the Mario 64 face stretching minigame, but everyone's like stretching the eyebrows and the cheeks and stuff. I'm so, so good at it. Like I love that one so much. See my favorite is Snowball Summit, which is basically just you have to, you're all pushing each other,

[01:31:17] basically whoever's like remaining on the hill of the longest wins. And I just love how like you can, if you know what you're doing, you can pull you just fuck over everybody with like one move. I like the Rockin' Raceway too one,

[01:31:32] the one where you're doing the Yakuza pocket circuit. Oh yeah. I don't know. There's a lot of really good stuff here. There's even a Star Fox game, Ace is High. Yeah. The variety in the old ones is what really makes them stick out to me. Yeah.

[01:31:51] When they started trying, you know, like we talked about, you were playing on Wii and then the GameCube ones, which people like specific ones and dislike other ones, specifically the ones that use the microphone. Well, I disagree there.

[01:32:03] I think Mario Party 6 is like the best in the series and no one talks about it. I also think 6 is good. It's just once again, like people, maybe it's just like a lump of the community, but a lot of people gravitated towards not the GameCube ones

[01:32:17] and not the Wii ones. I had a really good time with the Wii U one, which everybody hates because my middle child was the correct Nintendo age then and she fell in love with the Bowser that was on the Wii U screen.

[01:32:30] So if you've ever played that one, he sits there and tries, like as you roll the numbers, the cage gets, you know, loses bars and he's like shaking the Wii U remote. We had ours in a little charger thing, you know,

[01:32:41] the little stand and it would like shake it off the stand because he's trying to beat his way out of the cage and she thought that was the greatest thing she got. She fell in love with Bowser too. Now she has like a baby, but she's older,

[01:32:54] but she's got like a baby Bowser toy from that time that she still keeps. So like, did you ever play the Bowser mode where one person plays as Bowser? Awesome. It's in love being Bowser. It is so one sided, but if you're playing as Bowser, it's great.

[01:33:08] Especially when dad was doing it against the kids. Oh yeah, I just, that game never got to be it. You guys were just no way. Crush them. Honestly, Mario Party 10 isn't a bad game. I think its biggest flaw is the car thing.

[01:33:21] Like the car thing is really the thing that people hate. Yeah. And that honestly, they made people work together more, but it wasn't like not in the way that people enjoy, I guess is the best way to put it.

[01:33:33] It took the strategy out of it and it really took a lot of like the fun of just like screwing people over. Yeah. Which was also a problem with Nine. Nine just had some really good mini games, which is why I think that one got overlooked. I agree.

[01:33:48] The car thing, the Bowser thing wouldn't work if everyone wasn't stuck in the same place though. Yeah. Yeah. That's why that's the best part of that game. We've also got a really big Amiibo collection because my kids like Amiibos. So the cool thing about 10 was you could play

[01:34:03] Mario Amiibo Party, which was like a really like truncated board. Maybe it was like 30 squares in a perfect square, but it was cool because you put your Amiibo down and like the Amiibo around the screen all the way around

[01:34:15] and the mini games were fun because it was still Mario Party and stuff, but it really like chopped out all of the fluff. It was kind of like that Rugrats game. It was just a really basic board with mini games,

[01:34:26] but you got to see your Amiibo dancing around and then you leveled up. You got like scratch off tickets for playing it and stuff for your Amiibo. So it was cool. Like there was a bunch of stuff that they could have done better,

[01:34:36] like taking the good things moving forward, but instead they released, you know, Super Mario Party. Yeah. I mean, I'd still play 10 over like Mario Party Advance on the Game Boy Advance with like wonderful mini games. Like which way is the stick going to fall? Yeah.

[01:34:53] Mario Party DS though, that is a hidden gem. I will defend that till like the end. All right. So we got the, so after the free for all mini games, we have the 1v3. I always less of these.

[01:35:06] What's funny about the 1v3s is like depending on the game, either the one is disadvantaged or the three are disadvantaged and it's always funny which way it ends up. Yeah. I love it. I love the ones where the one is getting bullied like the spotlight swim.

[01:35:20] Where you're like actively bullying the last person. Well, I love like thwomp pull where it's like literally like if you're the one, you are just like, you're guaranteed to win because the three have to like coordinate and coordination doesn't exist in Mario Party. Yeah.

[01:35:38] In Mario Party 1 there's the game where you're Bowser on the left side and then the three people are trying to pull like it's a tug of war. And I don't think I've ever lost that. Oh, the hand destroying game. Yeah. That is the hand destroying game.

[01:35:51] But there's something about like just pulling three people over and it just feels so good. I love the coconut clock where you just dropping coconuts on the three and it's just you're just basically bullying them. Yeah. Most of the games, like you said,

[01:36:06] if you're spending the whole time, you know, battling with other people, it's hard to get three people together to coordinate. But as long as everybody can do their own thing and avoid the one, then it was fine. Like, but yeah.

[01:36:18] The three people had to get together like on pull. There was just no chance. Just no chance whatsoever for the three. They were done. All right. And then after that we got the 2v2. So if two people agree, two people are on blue side,

[01:36:33] two people on red side, we will get a team game. And honestly these are my favorite. The ones where like one person strapped with me and so I'm like you better do good. This is peak chaos right here.

[01:36:45] You remember how I said like if the like thwomp pull where like coordination is impossible in Mario Party, this is basically these mini games like ad nauseam blur. It's like if you get stuck with an incompetent player, you're basically screwed.

[01:37:01] Or even like if you were with the person who was, you know, in first place with the stars and the coins, I didn't always want to let them win this game. Like even if I was on their team, like I'm already going down. You're going down with me.

[01:37:15] There's no way that I didn't even think of that. Not going out like this. Like one of my favorites is eats a pizza where it's like, you have to eat the most more of like your half of the pizza than the other team.

[01:37:25] And if you're trying to do that, you can just literally like not just screw the player. Well, the funny thing was with in Mario Party one towards the end we were playing a 35 round game, which is the medium setting. And in the last like five to eight rounds,

[01:37:41] everyone had like 90 coins. It didn't matter. So like whoever won the mini game, they would win like 10, maybe 15 coins. And that was it. So like it got to the point where I just stopped caring about winning, even though I knew like in my reptilian brain how to play

[01:37:58] most of these games because I played a ton of Mario Party one. It's kind of funny. I don't know how Mario Party three handles that, but what's the same way? But even then you got to be thinking like, how many of those end game stars?

[01:38:09] Like is it the number of games one or is the number of coins one in mini games? Like, can I really let one of them steal a star from me because I just don't feel like eating pizza today?

[01:38:18] Like another great one is log jam where like one player has to put the log down. The other one has the chop and you could just be a troll and just not put it down and just be like, nah. Yeah.

[01:38:30] Now we have another set here called the battle mini games. What is the... So this is a different kind of square you can land on, right? Yes, a battle square. So I'm looking at all these. I only really recognize this all fired up one.

[01:38:43] No, I recognize all, I have recognized eyesore as well because this is the from Mario 64. You got to run around this guy. One of my favorites is Marigold Chomp where it's like it's basically timing and whoever ends up in front of the chomp gets destroyed.

[01:38:56] It's basically a Russian roulette essentially. That's really funny and ominous in this like really kid friendly game. It's kind of like in Mario Party two slash four where there was the one where it's like there's the bomb and you have to pick the plunger and whoever gets

[01:39:12] the bad plunger blows up. I don't really see a lot that... What is this stacked deck? Is this a GoFish? Not GoFish, what is it? The memory game? Yeah. Yeah, so this just looks like just another set of four

[01:39:29] player free for all games and then we have the dual mini games which is 1v1 which is the most sweaty Mario Party can possibly get. Well one of them is literally... Motor Rotor is literally F-Zero. What is the one? Pop Gun Pick Off? This one looks badass.

[01:39:44] It is literally House of the Dead or whatever. What do you want to play? Yeah. Games like Crowd Cover, obviously they've done that a bunch of times since then because visual mini games even in the Wii U Party games and like Wii Party

[01:40:01] they love doing things like that where just throw stuff all over the screen and then guess. Because it's easy, it's easy fun and once again you can mess with the person in the room by you know, tickling them or pushing them over

[01:40:14] slapping them inside of the head so they can't see it. Oh I specifically remember this take top pop one where you're jumping over the hour hand coming around, you're on a clock and you're jumping over it because if you're on the inside you're like at a specific disadvantage.

[01:40:28] Yeah. Because one person is closest to the center the other person will be further away from the center. They should have just been on opposite ends. Why, this is so obviously one sided right? Yeah. What's to make you more mad?

[01:40:41] That's part of the, the part of the series is just torture. Like it's like the original Animal Crossing. It's not meant to be fun. It's meant to pick a winner. There's a reason they call it the game that ends friendships. It really does feel that way.

[01:40:59] Well those are most of them. Would we have anything else that we got to talk about for Mario Party? I mean there are so all on all of those boards there are a lot of different like mechanics that happen. Is there anything that stands out to you?

[01:41:10] I think we skipped over that whenever we were talking about the boards. Are there any weird like mechanics like or like gimmicks on these boards that like are particularly good? So one thing in the... Sorry, go on. You can go first. No, go right ahead. I'm the guest.

[01:41:26] Okay. You go first. I was just going to say I love the charm of like the pre-rendered backgrounds and stuff. Like I think they have they have such a distinct look to them that like the later games just didn't have. I agree with that.

[01:41:40] It's even more prevalent in the first one where it is insanely obvious what is not pre-rendered as you're going around the board. One of the quirks of this game too is that if you were... So not us because we're NTSCU

[01:41:57] but if you played the PAL version of the game for some reason they made it even harder. So some of the games like... I will go back to the mini game things but some of the games they just all they did was chop the timer in half.

[01:42:11] So like that Bowser broadside is down to like 20 seconds instead of 40 seconds and there's a bunch of other games like motor, rudder and stuff where they just chopped the timer in half like which is a disadvantage for everybody who's playing the game. You know maybe you like this

[01:42:27] but there was never really an explanation why it's only the PAL version that got that. Same thing, so I'm a big cutting room floor nerd. And another thing is you get ranked when you play... We were talking about the story mode.

[01:42:40] You get ranked when you go through it. You get an A, B or C ranking. Originally there was DE and F2 but at some point during development they're like maybe that's too mean for a game that you just played.

[01:42:52] For a game that you just played two and a half hours against three computers who are like purposely punishing you the whole time. So they just lopped half of the rankings off and C is the bottom ranking instead of F.

[01:43:04] Because can you imagine going through like three hours of Mario Party 3 and then be like F, ha, you unlocked nothing, flies. Yeah, you probably never pick up the game again. You'd be like alright, you know what? No, bye. You guys ever have someone rage quit during a game

[01:43:20] and just like leave you guys hanging? Oh sure. I feel like a lot of Mario Party games end in a rage quit because at some point you're like no way I'm gonna win this. Let's play anything else. I would play F0.

[01:43:32] The worst is like when you have a four player game and one person just gets so fed up they just leave and then you're like well fuck, what do we do? Yeah somebody's just pressing their dice for them and you have to decide if you're gonna like

[01:43:42] help them or beat two controllers during the two player thing. The best is when like you just let them be in the minigames and they still somehow win. Have you guys, have you guys don't know the YouTuber DougDoug? He's a Twitch streamer but he's a YouTuber as well.

[01:43:55] He has, he writes code, right? That's his whole thing. And so sometimes he has a lot of videos that are like I played Mario Party with my Twitch chat and everyone who's username is starting between A to N

[01:44:10] is Waluigi and everyone from M down to Z is Wario and Toad is just random inputs and then I am playing as Mario but I can only use voice command. So I have to go jump, left, up, down

[01:44:28] in order to play the game and then we'll see who wins and listener you're gonna have to go and watch that video but those videos are fucking so hilarious. I always think of like that series that went on for a while

[01:44:41] back in like the mid 2010s it was the Luigi wins by doing absolutely nothing where the guy just like set up every minigame from like I think it was like Mario Party one up till I don't know how far he went

[01:44:52] but it was like he would just see what would happen because he left like everything at default settings and he would just let the games play out and some of them are hilarious. Like there's a minigame in Mario Party 2

[01:45:02] where it's like you're on a bunch of rolling balls and whoever is the last man standing essentially wins and like literally they started to do all three computers just commit suicide and it's like okay. Luigi's just standing there. Yeah, some of them are hilarious. It's like wow.

[01:45:22] I mean do be like that. I don't remember what the point of what we were talking about was oh we were talking about any quirks in the levels I don't think there are too many there I mean other than Wall-A-Wee-G Islands

[01:45:35] I think you covered it, yeah the circle on Wall-A-Wee-G Islands the most iconic thing from this game. Yeah and it's really funny in the picture they have on the wiki that it's all red so it is so funny and noticeable immediately

[01:45:46] What's great is it can go from all red to all chance time to like all occasionally they'll be all blue but like most of the time it's always negative shit. Yeah it's a much funnier when it's negative shit. And there's a boo space on there too

[01:45:59] so occasionally you'll hit the boo space. I'm so sick of the boo space. I don't want to ever see a boo again for the rest of my life. Alright so that was a whole lot of talk about Mario Party

[01:46:09] we can move on to our final words about the game. This is what would you recommend this to the listeners if I could even speak. What would you pay for it is something that we just recently added I don't know how much this goes on to this

[01:46:25] because this is just on Nintendo Online but I guess it's like if you want to buy Nintendo 64 cartridge what's a good price for it. I have no clue so I guess I'll just go first $30 that's probably way lower than what you could probably get for it

[01:46:39] but $30 is all pretty cool. Let me consult GameEye real quick. So I bought it for I would say four or five when I was completing my collection I bought it so probably four years ago I think I paid 50 bucks for a used copy loose then

[01:46:52] and that was locally so maybe I got drug a little bit but it went up higher for a while and it came down. That's about what it's going for now according to GameEye which goes off of price chatting it's going for about 53 right now

[01:47:05] It's not even the most expensive one like I think the GameCube ones are like currently like they're really hard to find ones like Mario Party 6 because Mario Party 6 has gone through a recent renaissance where people are like this one was really good it's like almost 80 bucks right now

[01:47:24] How much is Torok? It can't be that much actually. Torok is cheap, cheap cheap like 15 sub so I'm just gonna buy a copy I'm gonna do what you do at Quest 64 just buy a bunch of copies of Torok The most expensive Torok loose according to GameEye is 3 at 36

[01:47:46] the rest are like below 20 You should get some of the Japanese copies because personally I think so they named it so it was Torok Dimensional Warrior for the first one and then for the second one in Japan it was Violence Killer Yeah!

[01:48:01] What I'm trying to figure out is I searched Torok on my GameEye account because I have all the games and for some reason Professor Layton in the Unwound Futures here Oh yeah that's a Torok game Just like that's random and okay That's the spiritual successor Professor Layton

[01:48:17] There's what Joe then Josh like just Professor Layton who's the fifth Torok The fifth Fire Seed Tal Sett and then Josh Yeah! I love it! It's so dumb Alright well but do I recommend this game for people? No! Don't want to add no

[01:48:41] unless you want to fist fight your friends and drunken stupers out of your house Mario Party is great Mario Party is fun I enjoy it It's easier to access than ever Mario Party 3 that is even 1 and 2 So you can play online now

[01:48:57] so you don't actually have to worry about getting punched Yeah You just have to worry about people just disconnecting Yeah all my connection dropped Awwww Yeah I think there's a little latency online We played Pokemon Stadium 2 recently and I beat the dog shit out of him

[01:49:14] in most of the minigames and he blamed the lag so I can never tell if he's being serious or not Let's be fair stadiums slow as fuck to begin with Yeah But we do be loving minigames over here gaming together What about you Mike?

[01:49:28] Do you recommend this game? I do I would recommend 2 first just because of the charm but I would never not recommend Mario Party 3 to anybody that likes minigames at least If you hate minigames I guess maybe that would be a bad recommendation coming from somebody

[01:49:46] If you hate minigames play the Rugrats Treasure Hunt or whatever No play Sonic Shuffle You'll be in for it Yeah half the time you're not going to find a minigame because finding minigames in that game is a fucking chore but also you won't know what to do

[01:50:00] because Sonic Shuffle makes no fucking sense As does most Sonic things What about you Bill? Do you have recommendations? I'd recommend 3 Honestly like all the N64 Mario Parties are really good I like 3 just because I love the boards and the minigames personally but 2 is equally as good

[01:50:22] Hell all the GameCube ones are also good Honestly there isn't I can't speak for the Switch ones but there isn't really a bad Mario Party that I've played other than Advance but Advance doesn't really count Yeah I'd recommend it

[01:50:37] The Switch ones get some flak because they're not really A lot of people say they're not original which is what people wanted when we were talking about Switch Mario Party like bring back all the old levels that they brought back

[01:50:48] so I'm gonna be like those aren't the ones we wanted You'll never please anybody I was just happy they went back to the regular board style and got into the car That's all I really wanted Yeah I agree I definitely need to check it out

[01:51:02] Isn't there a new Mario Party coming out? There is and it looks interesting It looks, I thought it looked great because it's weird It looks like the first time NdCube has actually tried in a long time What they said is there's games

[01:51:17] you can go online and do minigames 100 people so it's like F-Zero 99 or Mario 35 but it's Mario Party games with 100 people all at the same time just one minigame and then somebody moves on That sounds so fun

[01:51:35] It's literally the most interesting Mario Party idea I've seen in a while Given us what we want which is online competition against people who you know are going to quit halfway through just like in real life that's what we want

[01:51:50] I like the idea of being able to play with people you don't know because that just leaves so much possible It's more fun to troll someone that you don't know sometimes because it's like I can be a real dick here and they're not going to know it's me

[01:52:03] Especially with no voice chat You don't have to listen to some kids squealing because it's not there on the switch And you can also just completely deflect all accountability because it's like Oh that guy is cheating I'm great at this game That guy is just cheating

[01:52:21] That's what I do, that's what I go to Suns in my eyes I have mesothelioma Just anything He's not even trying He's just doing the wall Luigi trick going around in circles in the corner Alright At this point I want to thank everybody for listening

[01:52:39] I want to thank my guests for showing up Mike at At Quest 64 Official I don't know why I want to say the official first It's at Quest 64 Official on Twitter, he runs that account Do you have anything else you want to plug? Anything else you're doing?

[01:52:55] You said you're about to be on a show next week? You already plugged them We're doing an RPG episode of It's either going to be Super Pod Saga I think, or Retro Rehab I've been giving them like two weeks worth of crap about that

[01:53:07] Mike, why can't you just take Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy and just make Chrono Trigger Why are we doing this? Why do I got to guess what show I'm going to be on When you ask me to do something Let's just do it That's the thing

[01:53:23] One just got free promotion It had nothing to do with anything And now it's in here now We love those guys anyways Also, I think me, Bill We're all part of the Super Pod Network Over there, whatever that website is That will be in the description

[01:53:39] And it's a really cool little place We all like to cross pollinate Obviously We've already been doing it before anyway So it just makes sense It's a pretty website though It's got my face on it Me and Thrac went out of our way To make our pages

[01:53:57] Extremely overproduced And I realized no one else has changed theirs yet So, fun like that But yeah I'll shout out my three shows Because I have a problem I'm Bill, I'm from the Gaming Collecting Podcast Which I do with my sister Alex

[01:54:13] Which is a gaming anime nostalgia podcast I have the 3DO Experience Which is a retrospective podcast Revolving around the Panasonic 3DO And then I have Geek Addicts Which is a general pop culture podcast I do with my buddy Matt All three of them are weekly

[01:54:29] And reacting to my co-hosts In different ways That's fun We are all about having fun over here Next week we're going to be talking About Battlefield 2042 I think is the name of the game The most recent Battlefield because they're going to be having a Dead Space Co-op event

[01:54:49] And that sounds right up our fucking alley We're going to be talking about that Phillip, be damned if he's here or not Battlefield, be here Thank you for listening