Mega Man X2 | SuperPod Game Club
SuperPod Game Club blasted their way through Mega Man X2 for the month of June!
Welcome to episode 2K of the Gaming Together Podcast!
Hosted by Phil and Nave
Featured Guest: Liv of The Top 10ers
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Timestamps:
0:00 - It Begins
2:20 - Hollow Knight
8:55 - Lost Judgement
11:36 - Tomb Raider
14:51 - Pokemon Snap
16:31 - Collisto Protocol
28:01 - Patreon
31:08 - AITA 1 Clapping Cousins
41:41 - AITA 2 Clapping Boyfriends
53:39 - AITA 3 Clapping Kids at the Pool
1:16:24 - 2k Review
[00:00:00] Welcome to Game Together, Cooperative Podcasts. I'm your host Phillip and I'm here with my co-partner, Nave. Each pod we play through a cooperative experience to relate you to the listener. This game is a criminal, a criminal co-op or something better off playing solo. Hey, Nave, what's up?
[00:00:26] Oh, God, I'm still in the middle of something. You started so fast, like, and suddenly... We have a guest. I was like, I was like, I had to do a...
[00:00:34] We have a guest. I'm not explaining the note stuff. We're done with the notes. No more notes on it. Stop talking about the notes in the pod. Yes, we do have a guest. Liv from Top... Was it Top Tenors? The Top Tenors. Hello. The Top Tenors. Yep.
[00:00:48] Yes, we had her on for... Oh, you were just about to say this. It was on Golf with Her Friends. Yeah, Golf with Her Friends. I wasn't there. Nave was there though and I assumed it was friendly,
[00:00:57] which you guys definitely were more positive on the game than I was. I was gonna talk so much trash about it whenever I got on the show, but I missed my opportunity.
[00:01:07] I wouldn't say that I would enjoy it. I just told a lot of stories about how my fiance is a hacker at that game because she's so good at it and I'm about to talk mad shit about her when it comes to what we're talking about today.
[00:01:19] Oh, here we go. We're seeing very similar things once we get to... Phil, did you see that tweet I put out, like, not too long ago? No, I don't watch Twitter.
[00:01:35] Okay, well, I don't know because someone... I tweeted it and then in our group chat someone brought it up. Let me go get it so you can read it for us. Okay, here we go. This. Boom, boom, and...
[00:01:47] Uh-oh. I minimized... Hold on, I minimized my Google Chrome. Here you go. You can look at it too, Liv, if you want. Oh yeah, yeah, let's see. Alright, so this is a post from Nave that says, officially had my first controller toss of the year. Thanks, hallow night.
[00:02:03] Oh no. You know, we were talking about that. We were like... Alright, so what kind of toss was it? Was it the flip? The flip drop? Okay, I... Was it a full-on through the TV hit the dog, killed the labor's cat, you know?
[00:02:15] I would say this was like almost like a varial inverted hand toss flip. You know what I'm talking about? Like a laser flip? Yeah. So I did... Yeah, like a laser flip. I did the diagonal cookie shape.
[00:02:27] So I did the flip, right? But it was... I meant for the controller to go far. Like I did a flip but with forward motion, like a Kamehameha, you know what I mean? Get this over me, I can't do this.
[00:02:39] Yeah, so it went to the middle of the living room and then I looked to the... It was not a boss. It was a platforming section that I couldn't get through.
[00:02:49] I think I died maybe 200 something times and I would say 180 of those were due to my inability to jump in 2D space. What? Because some of the bosses are actually hard. Like this is the Hollow Knight, like the first one, right? Yeah.
[00:03:02] Is there more than... Soak Song's not out yet. Soak Song's not out, I guess. I don't know. I don't keep up with modern games. That's like yeah. I remember that boss was like the Mantis. Like I struggled on them for a long time and then got good.
[00:03:12] I didn't struggle on a single boss really more than like three or four times except for one where... I can't remember what it was but you had to platform around while you were fighting them.
[00:03:23] And then there was these trials at the end. This... So the controller trials happened then. But that wasn't even the angriest I got. I got super angry at these trials. There's three of them and the first two I beat on the first try.
[00:03:34] The third one, I... It's like you have to fight for like 20 minutes of like moderately difficult enemies but there are two parts where the floor gives out and there are spikes and one of the part... The first part is not so bad
[00:03:48] but the second part is like the walls come in. It's real claustrophobic and you're bouncing around fighting the hardest flying enemies with fear of falling straight down and listener before you say, shit! I know you could pogo off the spikes. I know this. It's still difficult for me.
[00:04:04] Well at the very end of it there is a unique boss not fought anywhere else with a completely unique moveset that I got to once and died instantly because I didn't realize I was going to be fighting a boss
[00:04:17] at that point I should have realized, oh I can't do this. This is beyond my capabilities. I should stop but I continued for an hour and a half longer thinking I could at least get to the end. If I could at least get to the boss fight
[00:04:29] I could pause, recollect myself, you know, walk the dog, drink a beer, do something and then fight the boss because I could fight the bosses like it was just a boss on a platform and it would have been fine
[00:04:40] but I literally fell to my knees in front of the TV. I almost made it to the boss and I died randomly. It's just such a hard game. And so I was thinking about the tier list the whole time.
[00:04:55] I'm basically doing like the end game DLC stuff, right? Like the extra content. I didn't do that stuff. What was Dukey? Dude, yes. There is one where you have to take a flower from one end of the map
[00:05:10] and walk all the way to the other end of the map without taking any damage or fast traveling or resting or... No, no. That's a no for me. I swear to God some enemies that are there are literally put there
[00:05:23] to mess up people on that sub, let's sub story or whatever it's called. Probably. Because one time I dropped down and there was a fly right underneath me hidden by the foliage and so there was no way I could react
[00:05:35] but anyway I was about to drop it down to B because I was getting mad. And then extra content? Yeah. That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I wound it back. I rewound. I was like, okay, I'm going to go beat the final boss
[00:05:49] and if that's bullshit then maybe. But I went and I beat the final boss on the first try. God damn it. It made me even angrier at the trial but honestly the game is beautiful. I like it a lot. Even though I hate 2D, notorious 2D gamer,
[00:06:07] hater, I was constantly bitching about the platforming but everything else super cool. Lots of things to collect. Lots of little people to kill. Like patterns to learn and stuff like that. People to save? The slugs? Yeah dude, I almost cried.
[00:06:21] A character... like a lot of characters die so it's not really a spoiler. It's a doom and gloom game but like there was a character that died that I loved and I was like, oh my God. They were literally in the boss fight.
[00:06:32] I went, no! Like when it happened. It came out of me. It was involuntary. But then later on you could talk to their ghost and they're like, dude that fight was awesome and I'm like, oh, I feel less bad.
[00:06:45] Yeah, it's like you get to skyrim whenever you go to Valhalla and everyone's just a bro. Yeah, everyone's happy and drinking beers and eating turkey leg? What do Vikings eat? I don't know. I don't know. Go to the cheese. No, Mamoth cheese. That was it.
[00:06:59] I'm not going to beat you. It didn't sound like you were enjoying that game but then at the end you're like, I loved it and I was like, I did get that impression of you when you were talking. Well as long as I wasn't platforming I got 108% completion.
[00:07:14] I got the achievement for getting over under... I really went into this game and Phillip knows if I'm hating a game at a philosophical level, I'm going to dip out. I'm not gonna beat an Earth Defense Force game. I can get all of the achievements in those
[00:07:29] but Hollow Knight, I threw it into A. Like right in the middle, right underneath Vanquish another hard game, but a game that is more fun to me. This Vanquish is more my speed as far as video games are concerned like shooters really good at them
[00:07:44] but Hollow Knight humbled me. That game is hard and I really had to hunker down so I'm glad everyone got me to play it and I'm kind of looking forward to the song now. I need a break. Well good thing it's like a myth
[00:08:00] and it doesn't, you don't know what's coming so you got some time. It's just a legend, a vaporware. Not vaporware though, lost judgment. I've always been playing this in the background still playing it. Rachel was watching... she was watching me play Hollow Knight.
[00:08:15] She's the one who was like... Do you like this? And I was just like, I do! That's why I want to get through it. I was hoping to be like, she was cheering me on, but she was like, why are you doing this? Yatta desune. It is confusing,
[00:08:33] but she thought it was a cool game as well. She was just kind of experiencing it mostly through my anger because she'd be in the other room. Hear me yell, she come in here looking. But she likes the Lost Judgment game.
[00:08:44] The whole thing is that you're a detective and you're looking into a murder but you're in a high... In Lost Judgment you go to a high school. You're like undercover in a high school like a club leader or whatever, a club counselor.
[00:08:58] It's going to be like, was it Jump Street 21 or whatever? Yeah, this 45 year old bit. But that's the best thing is that you're like a 45 year old man, a beautiful man, like might I add. And he is like talking to these teenage girls
[00:09:12] and they're like, can't you tell they're in love? Like him and her in the dance class and he's like, oh yeah, I didn't notice that before. And maybe I should invite him to the dance meet so that she's more motivated
[00:09:22] to dance better so that I can get information from her about this kid I'm looking into. It's so awesome. And the whole time the dancing, of course dancing mini game, I'm fucking doing A, B, X, doing all the dance moves. And... But every time Rachel looks
[00:09:38] she's like, aren't you supposed to be like detecting stuff? And I'm like, no, I'm a dancer now. This is all I want to do, is this shit? Do you have to play the other Yakuza games to play Lost Judgment? Can you get there or is it separate?
[00:09:52] Judgment and Lost Judgment are spin-offs of Yakuza and Lost Judgment is the sequel to Judgment. So you could play... I'm at the very beginning so I'm not entirely sure but it seems like pretty separated. Like, there are characters that are recurring between the two games
[00:10:08] and there are references to Yakuza but none of it really matters. So you could play Lost Judgment right away if you wanted to. Or Judgment, it just depends. They're adorable. And they're different. They're different enough from Yakuza that I do get a different vibe
[00:10:24] but it's also like coming home. Like after playing maybe 25 games since I played like a Dragon Infinite Well I'm back in Kamorucho and in other locations that I recognize and I'm just happy. I'm happy again. Happy, happy again. Alright, that's pretty good coverage, Dave. Liv, what about you?
[00:10:46] What games have you been playing recently that you'd like to share with our co-op listeners at home? I haven't been playing any multiplayer games but single player games. I've recently restarted Tomb Raider the definitive edition. I played it on Steam and then it's on PlayStation Extra
[00:11:04] so it's like, you know, I'll get the achievements on that and I forgot how much I really enjoyed this game. I played through the Tomb Raider games probably for the first time through COVID and I haven't been back to them
[00:11:16] and I've been kind of itching to go back to like an uncharted or Tomb Raider type game. And I know the Indiana Jones games coming out and everything but I was like, you know, Lara Croft I miss you! Let's go and play again
[00:11:28] so I'm playing it for the second time and I'm really enjoying that. Have either of you played Tomb Raider? I played two out of three of the new Newers. Phillip played one of them in Japanese. I did. I played Rise of the Tomb Raider in Japanese. Why?
[00:11:46] I'm learning Japanese. I was like, oh my god this has full voice cast in Japanese and subtitles. I'm definitely going to try this. I played the first one like a ton on the PlayStation 3 but that's not interesting. Phillip, how did that go?
[00:12:02] Well it was the first game I ever played all the way through in Japanese and it wasn't bad it's a lot of people just going watch out! And then they start talking about places on the map and country names and I just got lost on that.
[00:12:18] Every time there's a collectible it's like a long voice collectible you can sit there and listen to and read and I could not understand a goddamn thing they were talking about it was like an ancient Roman in Japanese talking about the curse of the undead and the world
[00:12:38] the curse of the undead in the lost city and all this other stuff I can not keep up with any of these guys I understand what he's probably trying to say because I played video games before and I have gaming literacy
[00:12:52] but I don't actually understand what he's saying probably doesn't matter, move on next thing I know I'm fighting undead Romans and that's just how it is sometimes. You got to level up your Japanese put some skill points into that you got better man
[00:13:08] it's been a while since you played that right you're reading full on visual novels now that was you know seven months ago it's still not also though because Phillip was playing we played that last game we just talked about Lords of the Odyssey or whatever I can't remember
[00:13:28] so you're reading it it is dog lady attacker woman master mistress that is pretty close I knew the congee just not what they were actually trying to say about this dog woman well she wasn't a dog woman she was a woman that controlled dogs
[00:13:48] but same thing you know I think so yeah that's usually what I see Liv bringing it back to you so how are you still enjoying the Tomb Raiders yeah I'm gonna probably replay through all of them not like back to back like I did in Covid
[00:14:02] I'm really enjoying I'm gonna get like all my collectibles and then other than that I'm borrowing new Pokemon snap from a friend and I never played Pokemon snap on like the Nintendo 64 so this is my first time playing it
[00:14:14] and it's such a game for me I love photo mode this game is that's all you do is take pictures photo mode and an arcade shooter at the same time yeah I'm a little confused on how you like progress the story of the game because I've done like
[00:14:28] the second region like 50 times I'm not unlocking the third region so I'm not really sure what that's all about but I am taking pretty good pictures in my opinion I remember the original on the Nintendo 64 I played I didn't understand how to progress either
[00:14:44] and I was just a little kid I was playing it and my mom was like oh I kind of like this it's cute and I was like why don't you play and she played like once and she progressed the level and I was like get out of here
[00:14:56] I gotta play this part this is why it's mine now well the first one had like weird gimmicks that you could do like you needed to throw an apple at an electrode to blow up in a cave
[00:15:06] that you could then go through on your little mine cart type stuff for like alternate path through the same level type deal I don't know I haven't played the new one so I don't know if there's chuckables like can you like throw rocks and put them on
[00:15:18] I haven't locked the fluff I think I call it a fluff fruit or something you could throw that oh I've hit a couple of Pokemon to file a little bad about it I have that's what I feel like when I throw a chicken nugget at Molly
[00:15:30] and she's just not ready for it it just hits her right in the cheek and she's like ah alright Livy have you been playing anything else ah those are the two games that have been taking up my time that's good spread so games I've been playing
[00:15:44] mostly Callisto protocol like I talked about last week last week I was only like an hour in I played it in Japanese because there's full Japanese voice acting and subtitles there are parts where the voice acting does not match the subtitles
[00:15:58] so I'm wondering if they did the thing where it's like the subtitles were written for for the English type deal like more in terms of the English and then instead of closed captioning for the Japanese which is a big gripe
[00:16:10] of mine because there's a lot of that going on but it's not a Japanese studio so I don't blame them but Naive remember I was talking about the in context Japanese and I'm like Naive this game just has kanji and kana all over the walls
[00:16:24] I even included screenshots so you can see oh yeah I see is that how it normally is no I was asking you how it normally is because you play this game does it normally have kanji and kana on the wall
[00:16:36] I wouldn't have even noticed if I walked fast I would have just walked right on by it's because it says F4 I imagine it's gotta be like that normally because it has English letters and stuff well no because Japanese write in English as well right
[00:16:48] like they'll write Burger King in English they can I have no idea what does that say which one one is like access open the top one and the bottom one is non to non to non non to non I don't know what it maintenance maintenance waterway
[00:17:06] in waterway F4 something like that super maintenance okay I'm just gonna take a word I don't recognize this wall I'll have to replay the game and find out it's exact wall I need to go back F4 have you played Dead Space is it like similar
[00:17:22] or is it like better or worse where you're gonna put it on your tier list I don't know the problem is Dead Space Remake does not have Japanese voice cast only English because I tried it which seems weird because isn't that a capcom no I don't remember
[00:17:36] no that's my CA it's EA the notorious Japanese publisher yeah and then I started up what's that game the one that's not the hell music based combat the other one it's like hyper sound hi-fi rush that's it I started up hi-fi rush in the first settings
[00:17:56] when I went to go check the language right there 2D texture language setting which changes the like in the walls and stuff and when the crowd yells stuff out but they only have like Chinese German French English they don't have Japanese sadly no it's a Japanese studio
[00:18:18] how do they not have Japanese for the 2D textures I don't know but so you can do text and voice language in Japanese though which I started up I might keep playing that but it seems a little fast for me they talk very fast yeah and they're chattering
[00:18:32] they're yapping all the time you're walking through the levels and they're all talking they're popping up on little screens next to you there's a cat that talks to you it's just too fast for me right now
[00:18:42] I'm not sure if it's because of the rise or whatever it is the newest sales game where like I had it in Japanese and they were just fucking talking constantly and the battles they're talking and I'm like oh my god I can't do it
[00:18:52] I don't know what you're saying but I finished Callister Protocol as my 8th Japanese game this year I'm trying to get a full 12 one each month so I am ahead of schedule I placed it mid-8th here above Trials of Mana but below Bloodstained
[00:19:08] yeah so I, okay talk about you know I had a terrible time playing uh but I really like the game Callister Protocol is not a great game to play like it's not scary like I was falling asleep half the time oh really?
[00:19:24] you were scared by the 3 2 headed guy that gets reused oh god he's a boss and then he's just like then he becomes a mini boss it's not great it's like Dark Souls Phillip yeah I guess oh but when you fight him
[00:19:40] they start sending in tickers after you at the same time and if the ticker just bumps into you he instantly kills you because he holds you on the ground and explodes yeah oh and then you're watching these super gruesome cutscenes every time or there's like chainsaw
[00:19:52] spinning in the walls that you're supposed to throw enemies into with your gravity gun or gravity gauntlet but instead I actually walked a little bit too close and it hooks my shirt and pulls me into it like a live leak video
[00:20:06] and then the other blade happened to wobble too low and took him to the top of my cap off and I'm like great now I gotta redo this whole section but the checkpoint is super generous dude that's literally that's super realistic though because have you seen those videos
[00:20:20] where people get on machines and stuff well I was talking like there's a video specifically where this girl is making a shake and then her ponytail was really let down and then she turned around to talk to a customer and got yanked into the thing
[00:20:34] it didn't like rip her head off or anything it was like Mortal Kombat she had to cut her hair I bet she probably had to cut that part of her hair off have you seen the new Fallout show no but tell me I've watched the first episode
[00:20:48] and there was too much incest and for someone that like had not played Fallout I was like I'm not what vault was it when you think about it her cousins just try to have sex with her for the first 20 minutes of the episode
[00:21:04] Jess and I tried to watch this and I was like you know babe if you want to go on and watch a show without me like I have no ties to the video game I'm really okay if you don't include me on this
[00:21:14] and I don't think she's picked it up there's only cousin stuff for like a little bit of time and then they never come to help it doesn't count is that what you're gonna tell me I mean it's like you're gonna watch the new Game of Thrones
[00:21:24] what's called Dragon House no I know that's all just incest for like 10 seasons or whatever Game of Thrones has no excuse the Fallout is like you're trapped underground but the meme like the directors cleverly hid King or whatever Fetish yeah usually about Dan Schneider
[00:21:44] in the first episode of Fallout somebody gets hit with a blender and you see like the blades go into their face and it's pretty hardcore very gruesome show I recommend it I'm like to have said 10 I think a lot of people are recommending it
[00:21:58] people are saying it might it's up there with the last of us show it's so good I really like the last of us show yeah I assume it's not like story wise like the last because the last of us shows probably like top tier
[00:22:10] story for like TV shows but I'm saying like I think people are saying like the fallout show is like goofy constantly and like always good it's so funny like yeah walk out in like she every wastelander she meets is a weirdo surprise like every every character
[00:22:28] is a character which I appreciate because you know that's kind of how it was in fallout it's like you go into megaton everyone had some kind of goofy thing that they were doing yeah meanwhile I'm listening to a four hour video essay about about leaded gasoline
[00:22:42] and how it lowered our IQ collectively by like 8 million IQ points they're putting floor in the drinking water well no not that well I don't I mean they did do that but like I'm just saying it's crazy that like and what are they putting in the salt
[00:22:58] oh my god did they put something in the salt yeah they do do I have to worry about the salt did you see that oh I've got this fucking video I gotta find it I don't know I'm never gonna find it but um there's this video where uh
[00:23:10] this guy lured it's like there's lead in um what are those kid cuisines but they're you don't cook them you know what I'm talking about oh lunchables he's like there's no minimum lead balance in lunchables and but the whole time he's reading this and reacting
[00:23:28] uh someone's playing a guitar over it it's so I'll tell you I gotta find this are you talking about the midwestern emo guy or whatever where it's like people just he just plays sad guitar usually over people going over mundane stuff where it's like
[00:23:44] I saw you driving in your car the other day and I yell out to you but you kept driving and she's like but yeah I didn't mean to like that but it's not it's fine then she keep talking I will find it not a great ride
[00:24:00] but an overall great experience combat pretty dog shit by the end but I mean the problem is is like it starts and you're like oh this combat is different and then you realize that the different combat is the same for the next 10 hours
[00:24:16] and literally like I did not have to change my strategy at any point it's just like you know dodge dodge dodge and then beat the shit out of the enemy also you're a killing machine like these you murder so many of the little fungus creatures
[00:24:30] like you're an unstoppable killing machine there's no way you kill everything not a badass in the one point like you you drop into like a big under you find like an underground sewer area and it's full of blind enemies in that you just become like a
[00:24:48] serial killer at that point just leaping out of the shadows like Batman murdering these blind guys meanwhile they're just walking around they don't even like they do attack you if you bump into them but most times you just walk past them
[00:24:58] but you can choose to go back and fight them and I did each time because they drop resources I had that game downloaded but I haven't felt compelled to play it because it was on PlayStation Plus I think I played it one month yeah it's worth a play
[00:25:14] I definitely think I recommend this everyone go and play it if you like survival horror but it's also not this isn't Resident Evil 2 remake so that is that this is like knockoff dead space but still a good time alright Dave what do you find
[00:25:32] or what do you got I've defined I found the original video now I'm like like fucking deep dive I guess I guess what I found was originally was a what is it a duet is that what you do on tiktok where you do something
[00:25:48] yeah so now I'm like fucking searching I'm feeding you'll never find it so while you're looking I guess did you find anything this week you want to show off we'll show and tell no I was broke I bought food I ate I ate food today oh good job
[00:26:04] I eat meat I had protein things are looking up sandwiches for me yeah things are looking up for old Maeve until the next concert why'd you make this so big in the notes what is it I did it like with
[00:26:20] half of the house so if it's big then I was an accident it's normal size it's normal size for me okay but it looks like we have some pod updates it looks like a write-in a response from Alex Ortiz you want to read this name yeah it says
[00:26:38] and this was on our Deep Rock episode he says that longest fuck am I the asshole story read more like an edgy CW storyline made in the form of a novel god damn five-star episode I don't remember because we had a couple really long talking about
[00:26:58] the one that was like a four-parter about Leah in her broken computer and Kaia or whatever her name is getting oh yeah whole family yeah that was a sad one and with that our patrons Mr. Quing in St. Cracker, Nick and I and the
[00:27:18] Intergalactic Pinecone thanks for all your support and dear listeners if you want early access to our episodes we said to our patron I found it oh is this more? oh god it's also big keep talking these are just our rankings what is this
[00:27:34] okay oh so what's in the notes right now is if you want to support us without supporting us monetarily you can go and rate us on your podcast catchers we have one more rating since I last looked on Spotify and one more since I last looked on Apple
[00:27:50] podcast but can you see the difference in our listener opinion between the two catchers what do you mean that people on Apple like are? yeah so go listen to us on Apple if you really want to help us out or whatever I don't know how this
[00:28:08] works actually go listen to us on Spotify boost our numbers up make us believers Phillip do you see that thing I sent you no it doesn't work I try clicking the link okay I was afraid of that so let me just send it to you in Facebook Messenger
[00:28:24] which is not what I wanted to do I tried to avoid this we should have just avoided it drop it no boom because it's funny other than that yeah go listen to us on Spotify Apple whatever the fuck I was just talking about I don't even remember
[00:28:42] why I was looking this up you went on a deep dive I don't know how to get this to you if that link doesn't work live no it won't there's Maxwell allowable dose this is funny yeah there's a guitar riff it's real funny edit that in there
[00:28:58] okay hold on what says Lunchables have lead in them what? oh my god Lunchables have lead in them they got 74% of the maximum allowable dose you have maximum allowable dose to some land oh no that's a California term there is no there is no federal limit
[00:29:20] there's no federal limit how much link can put in a Lunchable in 3.2 ounces of attorney in Jenner they got 74% of all the link we got the little beats 73% for pepperoni these Lunchables are they serving them out of Stanley Cubs what's happening this is just like
[00:29:44] this is just like the little squeezy Apple sauces with the sediment because the sediment they were using lead instead of actual sediment and kids were getting brain poisoning because the Apple sauce had lead and it was cheaper to put lead in it than sediment I feel like
[00:30:02] I feel like we should ban lead in Lunchables perfect or me whoever's editing let's take a quick break and then we'll come back with our Am I the Assholes can you use the place boom boom boom boom boom do you need a bathroom breaker or anything I'm good
[00:30:18] got my monster right here and we're back it is time for the Am I the Assholes section for us to go online and assist gamers in need to help let them know if they are in fact assholes or not let's see
[00:30:30] who wants to go first because I brought my own no one can steal mine wait did I need to pick one because I did not you can click that asshole sheet if it's grayed out we use it if not you're good
[00:30:44] but this is the one I picked because it's specifically about 2k this is Am I the Assholes for clapping the hell out of my little cousin in 2k after he was talking shit oh absolutely not I don't even need to read more let's go by deleted
[00:31:00] we ran away the coward this is four years ago so this is not on 2k24 like we're playing so right up at the top is it okay to beat the shit out of children in games yes in all circumstances absolutely yes you gotta keep being them
[00:31:20] alright let's give the person a fair chance let's go speaking of 2k I'm pretty sure Michael Jordan talked about is dad wouldn't beat him let him win until he he wouldn't let him eat until he beat him yeah he's the best in the world
[00:31:36] that's what happens when you just grill it he can't grow that big if you don't eat what nothing read the thing alright so like my title say I clapped my cousin in 2k it all started when my aunt came over and brought her kids
[00:31:54] my little nephew is like 11 years old and always talks shit I usually just ignore him but this time I was around in my room playing against some tough player in my league where you create your own team and player and not gonna lie I was getting
[00:32:08] fucked up on the game the way this is written is great dude is ranked in the top 100 and I was catching fades left and right cousin walks in on his BS and says damn you trash af if you let him beat you I said
[00:32:24] bro this man is one of the best players on 2k you would be destroyed if you played him little cuz nah you just trash I swear I beat this man online before I know damn well he ain't played this dude online cuz one he got 2k19 oh shit
[00:32:44] and 2 you have to go out of your way to play this guy like messaging him setting up wagers etc you have to get the fucking schedule an appointment he keeps fucking with me while I'm also getting clapped by this guy so after the
[00:33:02] game I invite him to play with me now this kid is smiling and shit thinking he about to do some work on me and he's like the Memphis Grizzlies and he's like the golden say warriors are these good teams so for 20 so 2k20 the warriors are good
[00:33:22] and the Memphis Grizzlies I would say are mid in the meta so he picked a handicap he did my first intention was to just keep the game close but still win so I don't embarrass this man too hard I would let him take the league
[00:33:38] but keep him within a shot or two so when I came back to win it wouldn't be like an insane amount then he started to let it go to his head man been there man's was up by 3 shots and by the third quarter he had stopped the game
[00:33:56] and I kid you not brought my aunt and my parents get the score run up on me that's it I'm about to turn up the heat he's gonna fucking ruin it in front of his family yeah I purposely let my cousin get like a
[00:34:12] 20-25 point lead over me going in the fourth quarter and that's when I turned up swatting the ball with Duncan on him three pointers everywhere layups breaking the man's ankles I quickly got rid of the deficit and dropped an additional 20 on his head in in the game with
[00:34:26] 89 to 60 y'all know that skit where Dave Chappelle went to the boy with cancer and played in the NBA stream hahahaha oh man well imagine it but this kid isn't sick and he's constantly talking shit Lamau he went out my room near in room near tears
[00:34:44] and my mom told me that I should have done that and she would just let him win I told her I still would have won by like a point but he kept talking so I had to show him what's up she understands but disapproves still
[00:34:54] thinking I might play him again tomorrow and let him win so he gets some confidence back or something am I the asshole at the roll at the end I'm crying I love that on my favorite comments though
[00:35:06] at the top there's like can anyone provide a translation for this I must be getting old I have no idea what this says that means nothing about that there's no skibbity toilets or anything there wasn't any skibbity toilets four years ago that's how fast language evolves
[00:35:18] there wasn't an Ohio four years ago nope that was just recently invented Ohio? like hello morning or whatever? no like the state I'm all for kids also not the asshole also I think this kid's like 12 that we're dunking on right now no he's definitely
[00:35:44] a 12 year old that basically just plays on his phone during English class so yeah he's 12 his cousin must be like 8 is this kid 11? oh 11 oh that's awful so this guy's gotta be like 13 maybe so this person's reading below their grade level we're gonna put it at that
[00:36:02] that's such an insult it is I feel like I regressed listening to you read that that was just so bad to listen to is it shocking what they pushed through the school system these days? this is awful I'm all for dunking on children all for it
[00:36:24] my favorite thing is that I'm so dumb but like every single time he says I it's not capitalized you have to go out of your way on a phone to uncapitalize the I my 16 year old daughter she does not use capital letters ever you can like train
[00:36:44] algorithm train your phone to stop capitalizing words well you can turn your phone like those settings also won't capitalize she also doesn't like to use periods either so it's all over the case it's a nightmare yeah that's oh god that's just how kids do it
[00:37:00] we find her am I the asshole and we know it's hers because it's written exactly like that no I think that's just what the kids do these days I think that's the method because then all sender of messages says okay like capital O and K
[00:37:14] should be like are you mad at me yeah it's too aggressive if you look on my just break up yeah seriously you gotta put lol after a period of words done like look at this am I the asshole question mark lol you see
[00:37:30] so you know he's having a good time yeah you gotta know honestly if you look at my last like 100 Facebook posts how old are you he said 28 no way this mother fucker is 20 years old this guy is 20 living with his mom and playing 2k all day lol lol
[00:37:52] he's winning we were babysitting some boys and they'd be like mr. Phillip can we play Mario Kart or whatever on the switch and I'm like hell yeah little kid and so I set it up they're like 5 and no they were there's like 5 and 6 or something
[00:38:08] like that 5 and 6 or 7 like that so they're little not like little little they're little enough to know big enough to know that's it big one would just be beating the dog shit out of little one in Mario Kart just lapping him and he's like I always win
[00:38:22] you know he's like just talking mad shit to his brother the whole time and then finally I'm like hey can I join you guys or whatever and he's like alright mr. Phillip but I'm pretty damn good you didn't say that I'm like alright let's do this
[00:38:34] and so they had just fucking beat the dog shit I'm like maybe you know how competitive I was with Mario Kart when we did it for the pot or whatever like I was a try hard sweat in there just trying to win
[00:38:44] I mean remember didn't I win like good amount yeah you did and that just made me angry you're in sway dude I fucking swear to god well that's yeah so we basically just come down and be like me and you most most rounds
[00:38:56] and like I just gotta be naive that's all it comes down to but yeah so I just blew him out of the water and he stopped talking shit as much at least whenever I was alone you gotta shut these people down the only way I'm all for
[00:39:10] bullying what it's necessary especially with family members like you you got if you're gonna if this is gonna happen to you you're gonna like get your ego completely deflated in front of people it's gotta be in front of your family by a family member
[00:39:24] you know what I mean it's way better than it happening out in the wild in the unknown like in a different environment you know you want them to get corrected by nice friendly family members right not strangers that do not care about them
[00:39:40] yeah that's how it goes I think we brought something up similar to this last episode yeah but I'm fine with them dunking at him it's even better than the family was there to witness this dude yeah flashing not only that but the kid
[00:39:54] called the family in that's like the best part like literally that's this is a like an always sunny episode you know what I mean well no like you talk about it's like hey I'll let him play tomorrow play me again and let him win
[00:40:08] so at this point you should start coaching him like start like hey maybe we can play on the same team or something like start giving them tips get them good make him a worthy opponent yeah I don't know if they're ever gonna associate with each other oh yeah
[00:40:24] you think just burn the bridge with the 11 year old yeah ball is life Phillip it's all is ball is life yeah I got that's gonna be sad whenever we get up here oh god because I don't know what Dave's opinion on any sports are but we'll see
[00:40:44] yeah I was kind of surprised that you guys picked 2k to discuss today I was surprised as well we'll save that for the meat alright who's got the next am I the asshole by the way I looked up specifically 2k there is a lot of 2k assholes
[00:41:00] as it turns out yes it's so toxic online let's go to the highlight one 42 it's not there capture it okay no this one might not search comments but yeah I'm looking through the comments too I don't see anything okay so I do remember
[00:41:26] this one just because of how wild it was but the description was OP claims girlfriend is cheating on him and D&D and confronts her but she claims it's just a game for listeners at home if you're wondering how it shook out the girlfriend plays Dungeons & Dragons
[00:41:42] online in like a role 20 scenario type thing and she has a romance with another person in character and they continued to romance even like after the game and send sexually explicit messages to each other in character and she says that it's just part of her role
[00:42:00] playing and it's not a real relationship I'm sad we cannot go into that one okay I was going to do a D campaign with my girlfriend but this is like years ago so we're not together anymore but my character was in love with someone else's character
[00:42:16] but I wouldn't hit on that character like person outside of the game that's crazy you're hitting on their character outside of the game away from the D&D that's hard to do no it stays at the D&D table stays at the D&D table it's like Vegas
[00:42:36] I wouldn't know what to do I would just be so confused I would be so lost that's just it is the other player was into it and they were going back and forth and the boyfriend was overhearing them talking
[00:42:48] on mic and everything and he's like what the fuck pretty much it's almost like a cuck situation but like fantasy you know what I mean oh my god alright well I'll find another one do you have one left we're going to go with Skirja
[00:43:04] cause we were doing sports video games we didn't find one on your list I think it was 54 it was about Madden 54 I think it was 54 oh 109 I was not close at all that's so far no one ever goes that deep I was just like strolling
[00:43:26] I was mostly looking through like topics I was like oh we're talking about sports so I got it that's not pretty big I I skipped it I'm ready to go in on this one I love it do you want me to read it yes so this is my
[00:43:46] yeah chaotic chaotic Kate okay chaotic Kate okay am I the asshole for not comforting my boyfriend after he lost to me in a video game I already love this so I 22 female have been in a relationship with my boyfriend 21 male for over 7 months besides a few spats
[00:44:08] it's been blissful loving and has changed my life for the better I love him more than anything my boyfriend is supposedly very good at the football video game Madden I've heard all his friends complain about how playing with him is pointless because he always wins and they can't
[00:44:24] even get points on the board I've played plenty of video games in my lifetime and me and my boyfriend have had some friendly competition before but I have never played Madden before what so for whatever reason this past weekend I was at my
[00:44:38] parents house and my brother just bought Madden 23 he asked me to play with him and since I'm a big football fan and I guess I'm pretty good at video games I picked it up quickly when I came back I was feeling pretty confident
[00:44:50] after beating my brother so many times so I teased my boyfriend and said I could be his ass any day I didn't actually think I could after hearing so much about his mad Madden skills with the Z he told me that he was perfect
[00:45:04] he told me that was perfect as his best friend and girlfriend just also got Madden 23 we went to their place and everyone expected me to lose by a long shot also note me and my boyfriend have a rule that we never go easy on each other
[00:45:18] other in any sort of game nice I started winning we were laughing and trash talking at first but by the third quarter it was 35 to 7 and he went silent I kept asking if he was okay squeezing his arm and trying to talk about other things
[00:45:34] during the game but he gave me nothing at a certain point the only noise was his occasional exasperated sigh when I would intercept the pass or make a touchdown you know that picture of Vegeta looking real angered distraught looking down sad it goes on
[00:45:54] we rematched and it was the same silence and tension and I told him multiple times that we could play something else and he said no the heckling from his best friend and his girlfriend probably weren't helping he was silent the whole car ride we got home I unsuccessfully
[00:46:10] tried to engage him in other activities and eventually confronted him I told him I was upset because I thought we were going to have some lightly competitive fun together he was bringing me down even hours afterward he said he wasn't upset about losing
[00:46:24] but he just wasn't having fun because he felt like he couldn't even play the game when I kept locking his passes and tackling him I'm sorry but that sounds like you were upset about losing part of me wanted to just say oh baby
[00:46:36] it's okay it's probably just an issue with the game I'm sorry you didn't have fun and cuddle him and tell him he's you didn't read the sad face sad face but that didn't feel right I thought it was immature that he brought down everybody's vibe
[00:46:50] just because he was losing he finally lightened up a couple hours later and then got mad at me because I didn't lighten up with him the whole thing just left me with a weird feeling I was a little disconnected that night less enthusiastic
[00:47:02] about sex etc which he was also upset about anyway am I the ass whoa that fucking one right at the end but I love that because it's so funny sad sad story really sad perfect I love it no because just that I will be playing 2k
[00:47:22] I went on a stretch where I kept beating her so bad that we actually had to take a break from playing 2k we had to play something else because she's just like this is killing my day and I was like really 2k it's ruining your day
[00:47:35] I do get upset if I'm playing a game I'm not good at it with someone who is going to Phillip knows this we used to play smash at his house and I'm not good at it and he would just beat the dog
[00:47:47] shit out of me like I would have 10 stocks and you would have 3 yeah and so smash bros or go home I'm like can we please play halo or gears or rock band or something like something I could actually play and then he's like no it's smash day
[00:48:01] and he'll give me like 10 stocks and he'll have 2 and I'll still lose and I'm like I hate this dude I hate it oh my god get a good scrub alright is she an asshole for totally dunking on him no get good scrub at the way
[00:48:21] I think the primary thing is that they have an agreement that they would go hard on each other but she stuck to it and she went too hard on him what was the story like 9000 to 0 no no no no if you are playing a sports game
[00:48:35] you can play to tie because there's no if the NFL yet you could tie eventually but basketball or something that goes on and on and on if you want to play like a fun game and like go on your way play Animal Crossing
[00:48:51] visit each other's islands and like pick fruit and fish or something that almost sounds like an insult like you should go pick fruit and Animal Crossing yeah there you go but always get started by the bees whenever you play these games do you have like a mercy roll
[00:49:07] if you are getting your ass kicked it's like okay let's reset different new game you win I'm not going to be able to catch up or do you play the whole game out finish it out well this is a thing when you play Commander in Magic the Gathering
[00:49:25] there's a thing called scooping and you can be a dick if you scoop but most people will scoop if they're like I'm absolutely dead I'm not going to survive so I'm just going to eject from the game so that I'm not having to sit here
[00:49:43] and wait for the game to finish it's kind of hard you know in World of Tanks when you die you can just leave it's like if you sit in World of Tanks watching the game continually even after you die
[00:49:55] it's kind of problematic because what if somebody has a deck specifically built on targeting multiple players well that's the thing that's the good thing about so the proper way to scoop or concede is at sorcery speed which means that you on your turn
[00:50:09] you scoop so if you're like I'm packing my stuff up but if you're going to hit me just pretend I'm here and I get hit you do hit me like I'll be here but then that will kill me and then I'll die
[00:50:21] my health still exists but I'm not here yeah usually people will do that if you're being salty I was just thinking about that because like I was like if I'm playing Madden against the computer and I go like three touch sounds behind
[00:50:33] I'm like I'm just going to reset but you can't do that in a human game so I'm like I don't know what the protocol is we're starting over and basketball is weirder because the score goes to 700 or something so it's like you might play forever it feels like
[00:50:51] alright I think we can all agree she's on Asselford totally destroying this guy should she have gone so hard in front of the best friend and girlfriend though no that's even funnier that is how you assert your dominance she wins what a queen
[00:51:07] well we did so okay so when Rachel first came down one of the things she would hear about a lot is like oh I'm great at magic I'm great at commander I beat the shit out of people a lot I went a lot
[00:51:21] and she came down here with a fucking aggro deck 1v1 aggro is really good and she beat the shit out of me like I only won one game out of like seven and I was like struggling I was desperate that's what you get for talking shit
[00:51:35] well I would not have switched to that point no but that's the thing both of my decks are mid range I can't fight aggro so whenever my friends came down the next time we had a full actual pod of four players in commander and then it became
[00:51:51] a game of like everyone had to stop me I became like a fucking Thanos character so everyone had to kill me my friend Don Tray who hates me when we play these games he always dies on his sword dive kama kazi bombing into me
[00:52:07] we will fight each other to the death and then I die because of it but she was like okay I see how your decks work a lot better but the whole thing was that I'm not talking shit I'm talking shit because I think it's funny
[00:52:19] my ego involved in doing it I am not going to get upset if someone beats me at a game it's like usually whenever you're playing games like this you want to use those things as a learning experience which is why whenever you play sports games
[00:52:33] if you're losing you probably shouldn't concede because you should probably figure out how to win when you're behind and also if you're losing to someone you need to understand why you're losing otherwise you're just going to keep losing to the same thing get good scrub basically
[00:52:47] alright so we got one more naive oh yeah right my turn well we're already way down here what's the very last one it looks like this one oh p.h. kids at the pool number 115 ah yes this one's an oldie, an oldie but goodie oh it's so long
[00:53:09] it's so long what in the hell it's like three in a row that I picked it's big but this is by cruror 34 and it looks like another main account oh my god it's a fucking novel I think Dave's reading it yeah god damn it
[00:53:29] I do this to myself alright it says am I the asshole for wanting certain behavior at a pool well yeah it depends on the behavior you're asking for I like the flare, the flare says TLDR it's just big yeah no it's not in there alright
[00:53:49] first time being annoyed enough to post here but long time reader I will try to be as fair as possible sorry this is long if you don't want to read move on I am but I am detail oriented alright this guy's the asshole, can we just stop
[00:54:05] we are starting out strong alright first a little backstory great I live in a luxury quote-unquote LOL in parentheses apartment complex in Oxnard, California it is luxury and cost only it has a no smoking policy people smoke tobacco and mostly weed nonstop weed is legal
[00:54:31] in Cali but not your apartment slash commons area per the lease agreement people are loud people rev their cars slash motorbikes people rev their cars slash motorbikes down the garage people jump the fence around the building and use the quote residents only pool slash common areas
[00:54:51] this guy's a hall monitor alright people climb up on the roof and have parties there is dog crap everywhere I gag at the smell of dog shit at piss while charging my car the only good thing this building has is a free charging for 4 hours
[00:55:13] anyway so that's the backstory I already hate this place it was sounding great until the end I don't want dog piss and poop all over my car park you don't want to party on the roof this place seems like a party besides the dog crap everywhere
[00:55:31] party people don't clean up their dog shit let's just put that on the record okay there is a rumor with residents I do get along with that okay hold on there's a rumor with residents I do get along with that the building is letting section 8 people in
[00:55:47] because they couldn't get enough quote luxury renters it is confirmed that they let drug addicts meth heads rehabbing in parentheses ellipses some california thing pays for I guess sigh what am I reading now you may think I said that was insane as it sounded listener
[00:56:11] now you may think I sound like a pop is jerk but these people act just how you would expect based on stereotypes loud and considerate bring pit bulls to the pool yes really I am paying about 35% of my after taxes income to live here my rent is about
[00:56:31] 2600 a month for a one bedroom Jesus it hurts to pay 31,000 a year in rent and have to deal with this stuff obviously same old story the management does nothing trust me I have tried I have been renting for 20 years I move every 2-4 years
[00:56:51] for my job and I have never had neighbors this bad everything I heard about californias has been true so far yes there are good ones of course I don't want to read this but I have never run into I've never run into so many assholes in a short
[00:57:11] time span in my life been here almost one year anyway back story complete when I thought I completed anyway back story complete on to today I go down to the pool to do laps for exercise slash fun slash cool off I get maybe 8 laps done
[00:57:29] and a loud family decides to get into one man, two women and three kids I am really bad at telling ages a bald guy with a beard can look 20 and look 40 my guess is like 30 ish for the man late 20's for the woman my guess is mom
[00:57:55] slash boyfriend slash sister slash kids the woman stated to me she was the one who paid the rent not both of them not him, not her the kids dot dot dot two are 8 to 10 one is 4 to 5 anyway in the pool the kids and the younger woman
[00:58:19] continually get in my way while doing laps keep in mind a lap is a long keep in mind a lap is long and narrow I need the straight the length of the pool but only 3 feet of width so it's fine if you cross my lap space
[00:58:37] just not what I'm 3 feet in front of you this is not a tiny pool not huge but fair size I guess maybe 22 to 25 feet wide 45 to 50 feet long the numbers you guys are you guys are writing this out right so multiple times
[00:58:57] the woman makes eye contact with me sees me coming can you see I am getting a progress can see I'm getting a progressively annoyed look on my face but keeps doing it with the kids around her I keep trying to go I scrolled
[00:59:13] I keep trying to go to different sides snaking around them so I tell myself one of the adults will see it and fix it they are just kids yes you know better when you were a kid calm down just swim it keeps happening never fixed I was
[00:59:29] going to speak to one of the adults but I correctly assumed it wouldn't go well as 98% of the time write it down you can judge you can judge a book by its cover at this point well I have had enough exercise and I'm getting irritated I figure meh
[00:59:49] let's go play some star field game game mentioned it will be better tomorrow and I get out and sit in my pool chair to dry off and tan a bit during this BTW the kids are screaming at the top of their lungs they were doing races
[01:00:05] with no intervention from the adults anger meter rising note other parents there's notes too other parents with kids in the building have corrected their children quiet down and don't get in the man's way doing laps that's what they sound like I think
[01:00:23] I can't believe you're only halfway done with this it's very long and this guy alright so there's so many numbers there's at least 50 more numbers okay see them now just prior to getting out a couple go to the pool TV and turn I'll scream TV
[01:00:39] and turn on the music playlist and put on like smooth jazz I would prefer silence but this is okay kind of fitting full music no problems it isn't high volume they leave right as I get out and go to the hot tub
[01:00:55] other side of the pool so now fast forward a few minutes I'm lying in my chair nearby the TV well now the man in the group comes over seeing the couple left and turns it to the hardcore rap channel and puts it to the absolute maximum volume
[01:01:13] I mean max 100 out of 100 I am now grinding my teeth I 100% admit I don't like rap and hip hop period period we all have preferences so I have the internal monologue accept it and be annoyed or do something about it and possibly start a fight
[01:01:35] I choose option number two option number two I pay a lot of money to live here and now I'm fed up chapter two I get up grab the remote off the table not from his hand and turn to the guy he is now in the pool
[01:01:55] I ask him hey man it's kind of loud would you mind if I turn it down note in my mind I asked politely I know I use nice words but 80% of human communication is nonverbal and I am quite annoyed by this point he replies I'm getting a headache
[01:02:13] he replies yes I would mind I like to be able to hear it in the pool like under the water I reply well I have been sitting right here in the whole time it's loud would you seriously mind if I turn it down he says again
[01:02:29] yes he does mind and why was the smooth jazz okay I say because it was half the volume and I don't mind jazz but I do mind rap I could tolerate it at a lower volume but not max he says too bad
[01:02:43] I want to hear it I say oh well I'm turning it down he tells me he will turn it back up as soon as I go back in just to which I say I am done with the pool I was just drying off and tanning for 15 minutes
[01:02:55] then I'll leave I'll turn it right back down or just turn the TV off at this point the whole family has come over and is getting involved children included he's getting ganged up on those are the most rational this guy goes oh yeah typical white guy
[01:03:13] he is white too LOL the rest are Hispanic I think I mean you can be white and Hispanic they're not different categories I can't wait for this like in five years of the future for this part to be like clipped out of context like this is me talking
[01:03:27] this guy is a racist he hates rap and hip hop and continues ranting I reply yep typical racist white guy here we all know all white people all the rap music only white people might as well like it the women then says we all like rap
[01:03:49] we her family are the majority I assume she said her family the kids are chiming in they don't care and I pay right here too it doesn't need to be at the maximum volume I will leave in 15 minutes then they can blast it when I leave leave now
[01:04:05] I hate it I also I would point out the irony of me reading about someone hating the volume of something while I'm screaming into the wall of my neighbor's apartment they pay to live here too Nate yeah we all pay to live here
[01:04:19] so they suggest that they should be able to blast the music and I should bring ear buds or ear plugs with me to the pool I retort that they should bring ear buds and leave the area in peace there are apartments literally 20 feet away overlooking
[01:04:35] the pool anyway it goes back and forth the guy says again I'm a racist and I say he didn't disappoint me in how he behaves looking like he does neck tattoos and face piercings I add that to be fair he started the insults but I insulted him back
[01:04:51] I could have taken the high road I suppose I comment saying you already annoyed me with your kids going berserk and you adults not reeling them in at all and then the blasting music max volume was the last straw anyway TV is muted they continue to talk together
[01:05:09] about what an asshole I am oh I guess we got the answer so he's the asshole huh? hold on hold on there's more chapter 3 what's the conflict I still haven't found this tussle okay they then move to the other end of the pool and ask a guy
[01:05:27] who has just come to the pool with the sound can those things those things that are about as big as a 16 ounce can to blast rap out of it I assume they knew him and he pretends to do so is this a speaker?
[01:05:41] yeah it's like a bluetooth speaker there aren't bluetooth hold on I got it I have one yeah they look like they're like really like hands anyway to blast rap I assume they knew him and he proceeds to do so in words f words type of rap
[01:05:57] I curse all the time but saying while driving not in front of kids and people I don't know I'm at the other end so I don't let them egg me on and ignore it great music for kids right model citizens incoming from these people
[01:06:15] I guess the kid comment really bothered them how dare I tell bad parents that they are bad parents and then they come over one at a time I speak last and longest with the man we talk semi calmly but get nowhere I think they are entitled
[01:06:35] they think I am entitled my argument is I want to lay in for the pool three feet wide that I could do my laps in rap music blasting everyone can enjoy some peace and quiet and if you want music you can use ear buds it is simple respect
[01:06:51] to let a person do laps you still have 90% of the pool left to play their argument is kids are kids and will be loud and will swim wherever they want this is their fun time they will not control them there it's not a library or
[01:07:07] office they suggest I pay for a gym membership to do laps I suggest they go to a playground I pay the extra rent for the pool as for the music they want to play whatever they want to play and too bad if I don't like it
[01:07:23] wear ear buds slash ear plugs also they state the majority in quotes like rap to which I reply how often does a supermarket building lobby call hold music the mall or chain restaurant have rap music with the in and f word going oh never not the majority
[01:07:45] in addition besides fully admitting I don't like it volume was the top issue they were highly insulted I don't like hardcore rap they also claimed I rammed their kids while swimming this got me mad and I had to bite my tongue to not flip out I never touched
[01:08:05] them we passed within a foot a few times that's 12 inches for everyone keeping track at home but no contact was ever made anyway I dried off in the left they gave a sarcastic bye bye I pass by the sound can guy and flash him a quick
[01:08:21] smirk that was the end of why is he smirking and leaving like what's the one he was leaving in 15 minutes so that's what he said it's like the woe jack that's crying but like in front of it it's the smirk I'm talking about
[01:08:37] I'll find it I'll put it in God that's not the end of it though during the first during the first encounter I was wondering if it would get physical it would have if he had tried to snatch the remote I know Taekwondo and I'm a but I think
[01:08:57] we were both smart enough to not want the results of that I calculated that might happen when I decided to get out of my seat but hoped he would just say yeah dude no problem and I would have said thanks man
[01:09:11] I'll turn it back up when I leave this is like the shower thoughts after like the post game I could have gone I will commend them for coming back to try and talk I thought maybe we could shake hands and clean slate but I think their points are
[01:09:29] insane and the ramming their kids lie put me back to thinking they are trash I hate lying to make yourself look better BTW there is a written pool rule to keep any music low it's literally in the building-wide email and on the wall of the pool fence clearly
[01:09:51] this is all from my point of view but I tried to keep it as fair as possible who is the asshole yeah I wonder I couldn't have been clearer that guy isn't sufferable and there is a reason why he is at the pool alone
[01:10:09] I need to let my voice rest for a minute so looking back on it there are two major issues here one is Isi Nassel for asking them to turn the volume down no Isi Nassel for possibly being racist I wouldn't go possibly I think it's pretty definitive
[01:10:31] he was the entire time which part were you talking about section 8 or the part where you referred to the good ones where he referred to you know the stereotypes oh man there is another one section 8 people yeah that ah god yeah this guy is not a great dude
[01:10:55] he didn't do himself any favors with Isi Nassel for swimming laps in the community pool though because I feel like that's almost people do that yeah I've seen people do that in our pools yeah okay so here is what I'm wondering though is it a timing thing
[01:11:11] because maybe he needs to go to the office and be like hey maybe there should be like laps swimming time or something like that adult swim there we go that's what adult swimming is for hold on
[01:11:25] talk to people about the rules because these guys already do not respect the rules with the loud music yeah they're pooping their dogs on the ground pooping everywhere they're playing loud hard in an F rap music and Tyler the creator okay it's not great so
[01:11:45] we all agree he's an asshole I don't really get it I put a lot of energy into this he's gonna get in the way at the pool but the person that's swimming laps in the middle of the pool presumably but you don't know
[01:11:57] this guy might even like I pay for this pool so I'm gonna slip right down the middle oh there's one point where he talks about making on like eye contact while he's swimming laps and it's like how can I see your face while you're swimming laps
[01:12:09] like you must be battling and that takes a lot more effort dude that's what I'm saying like looking at him like he talked about he did a lot of laps and this is a long pool possibly 45 to 50 feet long and he was doing
[01:12:25] he was on like lap 8 when these people show up and then he continued to do laps for more time after that and you know enough time to really make eye contact with the children or whatever he was doing I'm getting crazy chris chan vibes from this guy
[01:12:39] yeah this guy he seems on the chart or whatever literally he's speaking on the spectrum he's writing in ways that chris chan writes like I don't know if you've ever looked at a lot of his tweets I'm unfortunately brain rotted I've read a lot of chris chan
[01:12:55] and this whole he's over explaining constantly things that don't matter like how wide the laps need to be in feet and how long the ages of the character like the characters in the story it's like yeah it was written like they wanted to be a novel
[01:13:13] and notice this post has no comments and no comments no one wanted it no one bit but we will bite on anything maybe this guy's an asshole he needs to stay inside and play starfield with the NPCs like him Phillip this one should have had more
[01:13:31] this one doesn't have this one doesn't have any warnings I think I found this before I started putting warnings oh man I got to the the hard R hard F I was like oh no what is he gonna say next oh no
[01:13:47] man I don't know this is getting sweaty but we made it through he's an asshole yeah but he doesn't know no one commented he doesn't know those people told him but he thinks that they're insane remember he thinks that they should have had butts or whatever he said
[01:14:10] what do you think I wear earbuds in the pool yeah it would make more sense to wear fucking ear plugs in the water in fact that would keep water from getting but if you're complaining about the music which he was complaining about the music at the beginning
[01:14:24] when it was just the people party well I met like before even the story started he's like they're partying on the roofs they're on the roof party dad Mabit I get the broom and I knock the roof real hard but they don't listen
[01:14:40] they think it's part of their beat so stupid ah good stuff alright let's take a quick break and then we can hit the beat my voice legit might be shot after that I did a lot of acting I was really trying it helps you know what else helps
[01:15:02] is that since I can't read it when it's half and half I have to I make it full screen I can't see you guys reacting to me so I don't feel as self conscious you know what I mean I can't see my face on my hands
[01:15:14] or my hands on my face and just like no please don't I can imagine some parts as I'm reading them like oh fuck oh god I'm reading this okay my audio exists to me saying these exact words some shit's just cringe worthy
[01:15:30] and you gotta be deep I guess alright and we're back for the meet NBA 2K24 Kobe Bryant experience the hoops culture in hey experience the hoops culture in NBA 2K24 enjoyed loads of action and limitless personalized my player options in my career build your perfect
[01:15:56] lineup in my team feel more responsive gameplay and polish visuals while playing with your favorite NBA and WNBA teams and play now recent reviews mixed and all reviews mostly negative released September 7th 2023 so a little a little age but still pretty fresh developed by visual concepts in 2K
[01:16:22] okay so the reason we have I don't think we've ever covered a sports game like a real sports game in fact usually throw yeah I can't remember we've covered like racing real racing games but never like a sports game we got close to covering fishing like multiple
[01:16:38] guys I really want to discover fishing but yeah we haven't done a hunting game I don't think but this was our first sports game after you know 160 episodes whatever episodes this is 160 yeah so I put this out there because I thought you would not bite it
[01:16:54] I even see you a message like if I can pull it up I was like our name we it's it's god damn like Thursday we need to pick a game that we're going to be talking about this Sunday or Monday and so here's some game options Gotham Knights
[01:17:08] Minecraft Dungeons XO Primal Stranded Deep it's about to leave Game Pass we can do that Farming Simulator 2022 or NBA 2K24 I'll just throw in stuff at you no reply for a whole day and so I just reply NBA it is and that's how we end up playing NBA
[01:17:26] just because I know you hate playing games that you hate I expected you to hate this game what was that your my preconception preconception yeah actually no see I was coming in I do not give a damn about competitive sports at all I've never watched them besides like
[01:17:48] not even disc golf the only competitive sport I've watched is League of Legends and even that I barely watched for like a year and I was super into it but after that so I don't watch any competitive sports I have a great interest and respect for them
[01:18:02] because they have you know big ESPN millions and trillions of people watch the Super Bowls or whatever and I know the Super Bowls like it's a big deal in our human society and I respect him for that and so I'm like man
[01:18:16] they have so many great sports games out there these are all like at least 23 national championship teams and you're fucking what I don't but anyways I'm like yeah they have to make good games about this because basically people are enfranchised in it they watch the shows
[01:18:34] every weekend they have their sports betting apps so they can get addicted to gambling they have their video games so they can play with their children and really immerse themselves in the simulated or just the fun gaming environment that is these competitive sports
[01:18:48] I'm like this is gonna be awesome hopefully I don't actually know so I haven't played one of these since like 20 years ago whenever I was at like daycare and one of those kids brought in like I don't even remember the game cube had like a flip up screen
[01:19:02] yeah oh yeah he brought in and he had like Smash Bros he had Harry Potter like Chamber of Secrets and he had like a 2k game and so we were playing those three games in daycare and I'm like damn this is hella tight
[01:19:16] like I don't really care about basketball but this is pretty cool so I haven't played one of those since 2k 2000 and actually I was like 2k 2001 or something like that oh no you had to be way earlier than that anyways so I'm like this is the newest one
[01:19:34] it's gotta be great I'm sure I always said EA nailed it 2k nailed it, Mize will be EA whatever but I was even more shocked that you managed to find a guest on short notice for this game so Liv what is your preconceptions with this game
[01:19:48] or your history with it or the NBA in general listening to you describe a sport was really hard to like keep myself together some notes, the super bowls there's only one there's only one you said people tune in every week to watch their shows
[01:20:04] it's a game, it's a match like this is insane that like your base knowledge is below the floor growing up in like a major sports family that will come up if I didn't play a sport growing up I don't know if my parents would have kept me
[01:20:20] like whatever huge sports people I've been playing all of the sports games forever basketball is definitely my favorite to like it's my favorite sport ever, I'm wearing my brand of stewart jersey for the WNBA got my Lakers up there I go to games all the time
[01:20:38] for every sport really I used to be the person when I was a kid I'd buy the sports game every single year and the last one that I bought was 2K20 and then I was like wow they really just ruined this game I'm not buying it anymore
[01:20:56] then I started dating Jess and then she's like I'm gonna learn about basketball so I'm gonna buy the 2K game and I was like you don't want to it's like it's not great but she's like it's the only way I'm going to learn
[01:21:10] and then she got so into the my career and then now we just play it because she's like we gotta play it and I was like are you addicted like a 12 year old kid like are you addicted to this
[01:21:20] she's like well we gotta play it we gotta know we gotta like coach them and we gotta better it I'm like alright so we have a whole like champion we have a we it's called the lovers championship we play the best
[01:21:32] of three as every team and keep track of who wins yeah it's very competitive she's gotten pretty good over there her basketball knowledge has she went from asking me if Michael Jordan still play to now she can name over 100 NBA players that actively play
[01:21:54] so she's come a long way in three years oh there you go that's quite a bit I can't even name all the League of Legends characters well yeah they're they're constantly making more of those yeah but they're like monsters and all unique like a lot of
[01:22:10] basketball players are just dudes and ladies I agree my preconceptions is I was never a 2k guy I was an NBA live guy I loved NBA live in fact I went I was like I'm sure I played some when was the last one and I played
[01:22:28] the last three NBA live games on my Xbox account and then there's 2k17 the prelude was a free thing like a story preview before 2k17 came out and I remember playing it and I thought it was 2k so I'm like now I'm confused but 2k
[01:22:46] is the only survivor right or is there another new NBA game again yeah they tried to revamp it I tried to be NBA live and I think it was like 2018 or 2019 and it was just like wasn't it they did the whole loot box thing to get gear
[01:23:04] and stuff and people are already pissed off about 2k and their micro transactions unless you're like 13 years old but yeah the product has really dropped off and that's why I stopped buying it but now Jess and I are going to take turns buying it I guess
[01:23:20] yeah the NBA live was EA yes so the madden people and then 2k is obviously 2k the yeah they do WWE they do the golf PGA yeah sorry the fucking amber alert my phone was going nuts but yeah so I liked the NBA live and I kind of
[01:23:42] been like absent there's been this revolution in sports games that have completely booted me away where the game stopped being arcadey and started being like skate like if that makes sense with weird controls bring back NFL street bring back NBA street bring back those games
[01:24:02] one on NBA street four like day one I fucking love those NFL street was also fucking amazing Phillip yeah I don't know if you've ever played NFL street but you would fuck with it because me and Phillip used to play this game called
[01:24:14] not Blood Bowl but the league yes it was literally the same game sports game I played it was just brutal football where people run out of the walls and stuff it was like yes imagine if an NFL game had Tony Hawk's pro skater controls
[01:24:30] basically like you're doing behind the back fucking run it's so it's so bad manners dude every bit of it it's always so good I loved those games I and so it's the same thing with wrestling games and like UFC it started with fight night I think
[01:24:46] or skate I'm not sure which came first but people got obsessed with using the analog sticks and shit to fucking start doing like weird fucking uppercut hard dukes and stuff and so now that kind of blood into sports games I don't know how people play this
[01:25:00] like getting into the fucking we're gonna bleed into the review now but like the controls of this game are like wow I was surprised I was so confused for like half of the match me and Phillip played did you do the tutorial we'll get to that
[01:25:14] before talking about how much we actually played because I probably played maybe three hours of this maybe a little bit longer and I just could not stomach anymore of it like I couldn't get past basketball island like I just wasn't doing it for me
[01:25:28] how much did you play my thing says two and a half hours about a little over two and a half hours I have like over a hundred hours two days 24 with multiple leagues I bet yeah yeah I do just a little taste we got some
[01:25:48] steam reviews that I grabbed I'll take this first one from Matt Saliz with 46 hours on record is a recommend he says this game is ass but I just like basketball facts the big facts that's true alright alright this next one from canoens with 500 oh I lost it 596 565
[01:26:16] hours on record 37 at review time this isn't a good game not recommended by the way I'm just playing it because I'm autistic and my special interest is basketball and this is basically the only basketball game 565 hours on record he's not committed but plays for 500 hours I live
[01:26:36] are you ready to read this next one alright let me make it a little bigger okay this one is from shadow 53.6 hours this game may perhaps be the biggest waste of $60 of my entire life if I made 17. 1750 per hour at my job this game would equate to
[01:26:58] 3.42 hours of my life what's the number for this episode instead of working on purchase this game I would rather stick my eyeballs on a searing girl stand directly in front of a speeding truck all of this just to launch the game and get demolished by a 99
[01:27:14] overall paint piece to my first game and get off we do not purchase this game or any other 2k game ever will be buying 2k 25 though and they recommended it yeah it's a recommend he played for 50 hours had a scathing review but
[01:27:30] said he's gonna buy the next one sports fans really have like an abusive relationship with 2k and 4a huh sports fans who are also gamers want like your your sport will go out of season like basketball then they does not go out
[01:27:48] of season so these people are just suckers but like if you're football it's from like September and it's over in February so if you want football you're gonna have to buy the game you're gonna have to play until next season basketball though the NBA
[01:28:02] WNBA have opposite seasons so you can watch basketball all year round so you don't have to get sucked into playing this game you can just watch quality basketball instead that is why I'm wearing my WNBA jersey because people the WNBA is here and you should be watching it
[01:28:20] that will come up so to begin with also my preconceptions I used to work at Buffalo Wild Wings and I live in Oklahoma City and when I worked there is when the thunder became a thing so and they were at like a maximum velocity with the three
[01:28:36] there was a Durant Westbrook and James Harden and it was a nightmare I hated the thunder because every day I worked it was a nightmare everyone was there getting drunk and screaming oh god the only time that was worse was in Oklahoma Sooners with college football
[01:28:56] would like to be doing well but again like it was like basketball happened so much more often than football so it's like it's a recurring nightmare when the thunder was doing good that was really good alright so when I first started this game
[01:29:12] my biggest worry was I don't know how to play basketball as far as like the rules so I was like I'll just do the tutorial the game assumes you know how to play basketball correct yes because there's been so many of them and they
[01:29:24] almost don't change any of the controls but every few years they'll change the alley-oop button so when you go to click it nothing will happen and you're like oh I guess they changed it for this game and didn't tell anyone alright with the tutorial it's pretty good
[01:29:38] it loads you up it's like hey here's what you gotta do here's the controls do it and then when you do it it gives you a green check and moves you to the next thing teaches like 18 different shooting methods but does not explain when to use them
[01:29:50] or why you might need them so I'm like I don't know I can do a half hitch cross up now but I don't know when I need to use it or I'm also not going to remember which direction on the stick is that and or which handedness
[01:30:04] my character needs to be in all handle yeah yeah yeah so every player has like different skill sets too so if you keep trying to shoot the three ball with someone that doesn't play outside the three then like they're never gonna make it yep yeah just learned
[01:30:22] this is how Jess learned everything that she needed to know she was like I know everyone's skill set because I play 2k that's crazy dude that was like learning lea legends characters but like just for your team and you have to play all of them yes yeah
[01:30:40] because you have to learn the people not just the starters but all the people that will be sucked in constantly so it's like a little banner up and whoever has the ball will show you like their rating for each other
[01:30:54] yeah so I think it's like up on the d-pad when you're on offense and if you're the person you pass the ball will change it will be like 3.8 mid range b and stuff like that so we'll give you a little bit yeah that would have been useful
[01:31:06] yeah that would be useful because it hasn't changed in 24 games yeah instead of the tutorial we'll teach you how to steal the ball but also not when you can actually do it because I tried it a lot on nave and it would
[01:31:18] just call it a foul every time and I'm like what am I fouling on like as I just slap the ball into space whenever I try to grab it and I'm going come on the other thing is when people have just started to get into WNBA and then
[01:31:34] when 2k thinks I click square and they like spear them into the yeah yes you have to only steal the ball with someone that has a high stealing like yeah or else they just think you're slapping the shit out I'm always going to throw it out every time
[01:31:54] it also teaches you the sprint but it seems like every time I use it I would just knock over players or bump into new players the look would just fucking tackle me like it was madden over and over and I'm like what was that
[01:32:06] I'm just trying to sprint the court and your guy just happens to be in my way which we only played one match and we also played WNBA so were the ladies and which was a struggle too because we also kept trying to go for 3
[01:32:18] pointers and we did not make a single 3 pointer I didn't understand dude at some point it was just out of out of perseverance I thought I would make one eventually but I just didn't understand I feel like you have to actually know how to play 2k
[01:32:34] if you're going to play the WNBA version because they can't rely on just beating the person and dunking on the next one you actually have to shoot the ball and create space but with the NBA they're like I'm 7 feet tall and you know
[01:32:50] every play you probably didn't even wind down the shot clock you missed a shot you passed it 3 times and then you dunked and then you just went the other way there's so many points where like when we were playing WNBA too I'm like hey I did the
[01:33:02] I know how to dunk I'm going to dunk on Nave and my character would not dunk and I'm like what's going on but then of course I am also not 7 feet tall I guess that was the funny thing because I don't remember the teams
[01:33:14] me and Phillip played Phillip picked the highest rated team I was like the Las Vegas Aces I guess yeah I was super high skills and you were the Phoenix Mercury you had Burton Grinder on your team yeah I had someone is that the tall lady? I had the
[01:33:30] tallest lady as soon as the ball didn't go in from Phillip she would just go mind every time and I'm like I love this trick I'll educate all of you I hope your listeners are learning a lot for me as I educate these men about my favorite sport
[01:33:46] I've been educated my dude I think her name was like Megan like that but she could not stop fouling people because I was controlling her and she got kicked out of the game after like 3 or 4 fouls in a row and I'm like
[01:34:00] God no matter because at that point you were like 80 points up you said to come off the bench and then she fouled out Becky Hammond doesn't even play her that much I don't know well there's the other point is like we were getting
[01:34:14] like we had said on auto I guess for like the coaches to automatically do substitutes thank goodness because otherwise I would have never done it and our players probably would have taken out of status I love when they come back they got little Gatorades on their name
[01:34:28] Gatorade Bar I drink a lot of Gatorade I'm a mailman it's hot right now I drink a lot of Gatorade so that subliminal targeted messaging right at me then but I got real tired because it felt like the game was taking so long because we
[01:34:42] would play for approximately like 16 seconds and then because you keep hitting square or X and try to steal the ball yeah probably it was one of those situations I was fouling a lot I'll put this in I'll bring this up now
[01:34:56] because I was gonna bring it up later but I was constantly fouling we were fouling at least every single minute I even pulled up the actual charts for the MPA from statmuse.com or whatever yeah the foul rate for personal fouls is like 19.7 per game
[01:35:12] meanwhile we had like 30 something in our game yeah we were doing it there's so many free throws that we weren't even landing the free throws like I made them at the beginning I like my first two and I'm like you suck naive as I just like swoosh it
[01:35:28] and then the rest of the game is just like you throw the ball just don't just bounce it off I don't get it dude I really just truly every now and if you're holding down the sprint button the whole time they get really tired you can't do that
[01:35:40] the whole time so by the end of the game because you're tired you have to have better timing to make sure that the ball goes in because if you think of yourself if you're late and you're tired
[01:35:52] then you start getting lazy and the balls aren't going to go in okay so the shot the shot gauge or whatever let's talk about that now so it has a green point and all you gotta do is get to the green point but the problem is
[01:36:02] when we were playing there was just no green sometimes in a lot of the shots well so what maybe was the defender really close to you they're all on the board at the end of the game you need to create some space
[01:36:16] to have an advantage so if you're shooting the ball and the person is right in front of you guarding you the green will be smaller but if you did like a little spin or you took a step back the green bar will increase because now you're not having
[01:36:30] that variable of someone being in front of you okay the tutorial did teach the spin move but it never said why I needed to do it so I just never did it so they assume you know bare minimum there was a moment in our game
[01:36:44] you got a great space to make your move there was a moment in our game in the fourth quarter where I made like 12 back to back points because I realized I was like oh my god wait the defender, the red the red on the circle
[01:37:02] on their feet Philip pointed it out and I was like wait a minute and I had a brain blast I just started beating Philip's ass for a minute but then Philip caught on yeah, that Philip caught on
[01:37:12] and he was like oh I got this because I would literally just run up and just keep passing it around until someone didn't have a red line on their feet and just lay it up right away and like oh lay up quick and then Philip was like
[01:37:24] I can't let him keep doing that also there's only 10 seconds left in the game and I still need to make 20 points it was gonna be hard for me to lose yeah so I did not understand basketball I still don't and it made it the game
[01:37:40] unenjoyable, I could not enjoy it because I was just in struggle mode and then I went on, I went further and I even tried to play like the single player much of the same thing happened I'm like I just don't know how to play this game
[01:37:52] and Toriel's in help I ended up going online and watching videos of people talking about because there's a large community of people that make tutorial videos, meta videos stat breakdowns about what's the best builds to go with and what badges to carry
[01:38:06] and what stats you need to level and if you rejoin dude it is so de- it's deeper than League of Legends if we get into like actual stat bonuses yeah the stats are all over the place yeah League has like 6 stats in it this has like a billion
[01:38:22] I put in a screenshot with Mr I don't know who that is that's Carl Anthony Towns Mr Towns yeah and he's 79 overall oh my god he is not a 99 overall just we'll just put that there so this person is this is the MP NBA builder yes so
[01:38:46] based on because they will let you become 99 overall so if you wanted to build what this means is if you want your player to be like Carl Anthony Towns that's where you should have your stats balanced out but because they let you
[01:39:00] they want you to be like the best of the best when you play the my career mode so you will be able to go to 99 with that guy it's like not a 99 there was this one guy what? there's this one fucking guy uh oh wait
[01:39:16] well we'll still talk about the game I can bring this up later nah well I haven't pulled up so that was just it is like I didn't understand the shooting mechanics like I'm like I get there's timing but it's like even the bar either
[01:39:26] I didn't even see it cause everybody shoots the ball differently so it's all about like the height of the release the quickness like Steph Curry shoots the ball really quickly but Kyle Anderson his nickname Slow Mo and his shot is very slow so basically you have to
[01:39:44] get a feel for I personally like the ones that are a little quicker just does not like those as much so it's all you got it there's a lot of inherent knowledge you need you need to know like the player's ability to make what type of shots
[01:39:58] the timing of the shots because it's all just reactions and knowledge based on that I feel like this game caters to the hardcore which is funny because we throw a lot of shade at sports games on this show about being the more casual choice it's like oh man
[01:40:16] why do you own an Xbox Series X if you only play Call of Duty in 2K you're like well there's a lot of detail that goes into 2K as it turns out yes and it's rewarding to those players to continuously play
[01:40:32] and to you know further develop those skills alright so that's basically my complaining corner Nape thoughts on the gameplay I hate it I don't get it but if I want to press X and I want the fucking ball to go like I don't want to do all this
[01:40:50] and you press X it's going to pass it or whatever no Xbox X Xbox X pass shot a lot of it too is like when you pass it the ball it will just pass to the closest person that's available but if you hit like
[01:41:06] R1 and then you can pick who you pass it to and I'm also going to assume that you guys didn't call plays and stuff because you could call plays you could change the coverages you could help me I love my pick and pop
[01:41:20] I pick and roll and then pick and then throw to the corner oh yeah yeah those words I saw a look on your face of the 2K subreddit or whatever just going in reading people's things they're using some very it's like reading once again it's like
[01:41:34] reading League of Legends chat or whatever it's a whole another language the junglers got the reapers and the smite and I'm like if we're still playing basketball right like like I thought we just played the hoops right it doesn't help because I don't know much about basketball
[01:41:50] either I'm not very I'm not well versed in basketball I'm much more of a football guy so like I understand I can play madden and genuinely like I can pick out some formations I generally know what kind of play I'm looking at before like
[01:42:04] if I'm on defense I'm like oh there looks like they're about to pass I fucked up I grabbed I picked the wrong thing but it's like in basketball I barely I didn't even really know that there were plays because I played NBA live I know I played NBA
[01:42:18] live I vaguely know there are plays I just never understood I just always grabbed the ball and went I'ma go that way which by the way one thing that I like about this game which is probably been a thing forever but I haven't played
[01:42:30] forever so when you're playing online the the basket it's always aiming towards your opponent's basket the camera angle is whereas I remember games like the camera would always be horrors like perpendicular to the court so that you would and then the camera
[01:42:46] would just look left and right but Phillip would be running towards my screen always and at first I was like how do you even see the basket I didn't realize Phillip was seeing the opposite camera angle yeah it's like it's like the transition between Dragon Ball
[01:43:02] and Dragon Ball, Boudiccai, Tinkaiichi you know what I mean we talk about Blitz or whatever it's like when you do an interception time freezes for a second the camera swings around to face the other way so everyone is always the aggressor is always running down towards
[01:43:20] the touchdown point yeah but that's how always how maddened it's been oh is it? okay yeah you wouldn't be able to see the plays down the field if you played it the other way for football and yeah the default used to be broadcast
[01:43:32] but I think enough people will play that the my career and they have it set at the 2k camera angle so it will swivel like that and it's definitely the best way to see everything yeah I like it
[01:43:44] I like it a lot better than the other way because before you had a weird depth perception in the back half of the court because obviously that's how distance works and then it's like the other way around now the camera is just constantly
[01:43:56] moving with whoever's got the ball so you just got a good sense of direction and everything I like it alright so I did want to harp on this game has a story mode the my career which man no like I played like half an hour
[01:44:16] of it and I'm like I can't do this so this is why I stopped buying the 2k games it's incredible actually it's insane that they they push this product because it's like you jump in and it's like burnout paradise they're like hey playa welcome to basketball island
[01:44:32] where you can go like I know first off I know that you're already an NBA pro and you're just coming down this island just to hang out with a couple of casuals like us but you got to earn respect to climb the ranks
[01:44:44] and I'm like what is happening we got to win races and get a better license it used to not be like that and it used to be like just like you would go to basketball practice you would play your games
[01:44:54] and then you'd answer questions of the press conference now they turned it into like this hangout zone so they turned it into this hangout zone and the biggest it's kind of started in 2k 2018 and they like tried it out it was like
[01:45:10] the neighborhood but now it's a fucking city and you have to take like the fucking subway across the fucking map to get to the I know I need to get across the fucking map to buy headbands because you can't just hit pause
[01:45:22] and buy the headbands and the head like oh and then my favorite thing is that you could build like a wrap career right so just what so Jess's character her person's name is Jack Jackson Jr. now she got the new game
[01:45:40] so he's quadruple J we're just going to keep adding J's so he had a wrap career and he was like he dropped like a line about Spongebob I was like this guy's got to like quit the league and they just like hand stuff to you in this game
[01:45:54] now like you used to have to like grind to get your like shoe deal and but now you can just like go into the studio and like mix beats and then also you could work on your fashion career I was just like play basketball just do basketball
[01:46:08] you mean you don't like the shoe builder or you can go and build custom shoes you could always do that but like now it's like they want you to go to the adidas store if you want to buy adidas because they're putting all of their ads
[01:46:20] it's not called 2k24 it's 2k ads that's just what it is because that's how many ads are there it's insane I mean I was called it out whenever we had like a someone called halftime where we go Gatorade time
[01:46:34] down in the corner it was like Gatorade would slide across I love it dude I played the my 2k game mode that's what I was doing earlier today if you saw me on and uh it's like every single thing would be like
[01:46:46] the Kia halftime report and I'm like yeah I got a Kia about there that's why halftime no it's all just ads everything's an ad in that game which to be fair everything's an ad in sports also if it's gonna be there then it's like well
[01:47:04] it's like in yakuza well this isn't really a thing in yakuza anymore but in the older yakuza you'd see like Jack Daniels whiskey and I'd be like well I expect to see Jack Daniels whiskey in the bar yes give me the Jack Daniels whiskey barkeep
[01:47:18] you know what I mean it's like sometimes the ads make sense the product placement makes sense if it's in the correct place and I don't really mind it too much in a sports game unless it's like fucking clash of clans
[01:47:32] I don't know just clash of clans like do you get video game ads and normal 2k and normal NBA broadcast I don't think so yeah now is there's no Elden Ring Shadow of the Erd Tree banner that goes across I always liked it in the Mario
[01:47:48] sports games they would just say Mario like on the side sponsored by Mario yeah like we're just competing and sponsoring the stadium completely interest much back on basketball island what was weird is that instead of playing with a full team you guys would do
[01:48:04] 3v3's and you could do 3v3's with just because it's a destiny lobby so everybody's running around showing off their sneaker collection you can just hang it out like it's fucking club penguin they were just standing around showing off their icons or badges or whatever
[01:48:20] and you can see their usernames the amount of young people like yung usernames I saw was just insane because they were just lined up and like is this a clan you could build like a team with your friends yeah yeah yeah can you play like fucking 5v5
[01:48:36] like you can do that so there's like the downtown I mean I haven't played in a couple years for online but there's like pickup courts and you could go and there's like you could like line up and like play against people and like if you
[01:48:50] you could play 3v3 5v5 and then like you just pick what spot you go in and then if you win you stay yeah so you play like randoms but it's such a shit show because people will just like
[01:49:02] not pass the ball and I was like this is a team sport if you want to not pass like people I would get so frustrating this guy wait what was that guy? half court and just pull up from half court you think you are like pass the ball
[01:49:16] you run into the the 99 overall paint beast and then you have a long off but they like make the courts like smaller a little bit so people could just like shoot from like the logo and they're like oh I could do it
[01:49:30] I'm just gonna pull up and then it's like but like it doesn't matter if you can make it you're playing with nine other people like play the team sport if you wanted to play a solo sport buy 2k tennis or whatever
[01:49:44] does that exist? it makes me think of I don't fucking know I think I have like 2k top spin or something it's got to be it reminds me of a yeah 25 is out dragon ball fighters you know what I mean
[01:49:58] where it's like the custom area where you all just stand around or like I don't know if Mortal Kombat still has this but the older Mortal Kombat's like 9 and X they had these king of the hill lobbies and they were watching people fight and then
[01:50:12] you're going up a ladder the winner stays it's like I think that's really cool but on paper it sounds like a fucking nightmare what it was describing someone posted in the reddit because okay so there's like some really good players
[01:50:24] and they're like this is messed up because there's once again like pick up games whoever wins stays and they go over and it's like three people who are clearly like grouped up or whatever are just standing in like the beginning area
[01:50:36] where people are just gonna walk and be like and it's supposed to be like a solo queue zone but the way they're grouped up they're definitely partners and they're out there just running numbers on these scrubs that don't know how to play the game because if you have
[01:50:48] friends that are all interested you all just pick a different position so you fill it all out you're not looking for anybody yeah yeah there's a lot of it seems kind of crook oh yeah not intended by the game developers I'm sure
[01:51:04] but I bet they fix it if it's really an issue right they don't care because you're giving them money and that is how 2K is operated for a decade you're buying like a basketball cards right or something oh yeah what was that FIFA
[01:51:18] no they do that it's like my team mode or my league or whatever that is yeah yeah they're in on that too don't worry oh well while we're complaining about 2K let me complain about this main menu because I've got a screenshot of it in there
[01:51:32] and I'm confused on how to play the game yes there are like two different ads that pop up and oh my god when you turn the fucking game on right away it's like oh buy the season pass and whatever yada yada and the only visible prompt
[01:51:44] is A and so I go A get me out of here and then it's like pulling up my fucking information and shit like credit card and I'm like oh my god no it's a scam this game is a scam
[01:51:56] but that's what we go to buy and when the next one comes out because Katelyn Clark's gonna be in and we gotta play with Katelyn Clark oh yeah alright but on the main menu you have my career at the top which is the single not single player
[01:52:08] but like the hub world experience on basketball island you have the my team which I guess is like where you make your own league maybe or whatever like ultimate team for FIFA you get like you pull cards to like stop that you made it small
[01:52:26] alright then you have the mamba moments button yeah that's Steve mamba moments it's Kobe Bryant's game so you relive like his like games so it would be like different challenges it's like he dropped 81 points in the game like score 81 points in the game and like stuff like that
[01:52:44] oh that's pretty cool and then my NBA eras which is another mode yeah I think that's what I played you play like the old timey mode with old like older players and stuff that aren't in the league anymore that's pretty cool no I did it with modern players
[01:53:04] but like that's where you go and you can like you just like a franchise manager oh yeah yeah so you get the GM yeah and so I went in there and I hit simulate game simulate playoffs and I just like watched it happen
[01:53:18] I could talk about that in a minute you keep reading alright then the play now which is like takes you to where the story is where it takes you to another section where you can like quick play NBA eras where you can also just quick play
[01:53:32] NBA games and you can go to the practice room as well that's where me and Phillip played each other no well no we went down to the WNBA which is the same thing as the play now except it's WNBA flavored which seems kind of
[01:53:46] strange that they would split it like that like and then there's also the connect and features and seasons tab all in one menu this menu sucks I really hate that I can't play the Lakers versus the aces like why can't you do that that's my biggest gripe
[01:54:02] so there's this black top mode where you could play against you could pick players from different teams and put them all together but they don't have it for the WNBA mode so like why can I just pick all the men and play have the
[01:54:14] men play against each other but I can't play against the WNBA players and do the same thing then this is the first year that they added the WNBA my season mode where you could play against the WNBA but it's actually better because I know for
[01:54:30] people would say like this isn't better but it is better because you don't have to walk around that stupid fucking city and do like a rap career they just cut all of that you could be a female basketball player and actually just like play the games
[01:54:44] but you don't have access to that city hub which in my opinion is better because like you don't have to do all that bullshit but I know that the developers mean it as an insult and they just like cut all of that extra content because
[01:54:58] they're like we're not going to add it nobody's going to play it it makes me wonder it's like how because I was wondering when because you can't play the WNBA versus the normal B.L. I was wondering if it was like something like the characters are kind of
[01:55:10] not like designed differently but you guys are talking before about how they don't dunk because they're shorter I was wondering if like maybe there's some weird thing going on like if it was just like a technical issue or something but if they're not even in the thing
[01:55:24] can you imagine the power like you can be a five like a five foot speed demon or whatever can you imagine the power a feet the WNBA player in the island would have if it's like destiny or like RuneScape you know what I mean
[01:55:42] you have the girl avatar and when we played RuneScape Phillip had a Feebo avatar and I had a male avatar and while I spent like 15 hours grinding cows taking cow hide to make money Phillip instantly got a RuneScape boyfriend he had a million gold
[01:55:58] gave him like a million gold and Phillip was just like walking around with this guy he's giving him pizza and like giving him all kinds of shit Phillip was like in the time of his life and be while I'm clicking a cow for 10 hours
[01:56:10] and he has more money than me oh my god that would happen can you donate beanies to people in Touka can you play for beanies can you gamble oh it's yours there's no trading there's no betting why aren't we even buying anything
[01:56:30] you can't trade the cards and stuff oh so okay so if you're playing that like my league mode you could like people will put their cards on auction and stuff like the real like 2k ultimate team which is just like people are paying real money
[01:56:44] to like open cards I just don't understand I really just don't understand that like what you should really do because you like I think my league is like you put together your your team and then you play online with your team against someone else's team
[01:57:00] that's put together with all their cards so that's why people are like I need the best cards and each card has different rarity and like different drops and also like people are putting like hundreds of dollars on this game and it's insane
[01:57:12] can I do that pay to win is that how people are getting the level 99 rest of Westbrook's and shit yeah I don't mean at that point it's like almost a speculators market be like all I do
[01:57:25] is got to get a good pool and then I can sell it on the 2k market yeah for real banana Neuron activate so I played the whatever the my NBA eras yeah and so they had the multiple different eras so there was the era where
[01:57:43] is like the LeBron era and that's like where the Oklahoma City Thunder first began and then there was the Jordan era and then there was the I'm stretching back now the Magic Johnson era yeah yeah got them and I picked the modern era
[01:58:01] because I just want to play the thunder and I don't know anything I didn't even know Russell Westbrook wasn't in the Thunder anymore I don't know how long ago that happened but you've missed a couple years he's on the clip so I did see that
[01:58:13] because I think he retired in my in like 2026 he retired on my thing but I ran the simulations you know and every time it popped up I'd be like hey the clippers want to trade you this level 73 man center and this level is 83 and I'm like
[01:58:29] yes of course I'm staring at the fucking trade like I know what I'm looking at and um we did not win the super not the the playoffs the first year but the second and third year that I had control we won the playoffs
[01:58:45] and so I just want a big round of applause yeah the thunder is going to win 2025 2026 just so everyone knows write that down you're welcome all thanks to this guy who I tried to put in the thing but I couldn't this shy gilgis Alexander gilgis Alexander
[01:59:05] gilgis I love this guy Alexander yeah he is your first name middle the black the last name I love the gilgis yeah I don't know it's hard to read though if you're looking I was going to send this to you Philip but everything I could find Philip has
[01:59:19] a thing in the notes I found that exact thing but everything was 99 so I'm like that's alright but this guy's like oh this guy's good very good he is their best player yes by far he was the MVP every every year he's getting paid 33 million dollars
[01:59:37] to play basketball oh my god but that guy was my savior yeah yeah yeah yeah no I wasn't doing anything I was literally simulating everything I was barely interacting with anything but I love the simulations I used I love simming madden I remember back in my day
[01:59:57] when you send madden you could go into the football stadium and change the price of the hot dogs and shit and I loved it I loved doing that and you can do deals to change the name so you could be like the McDonald's
[02:00:11] I have a theater or whatever it's fucking all great advertising but you can do that in this game not nearly as much seems to be awfully trimmed down in some regards but then pretty detailed like I don't know
[02:00:27] I don't know how I feel about all the stats on the players because Liv now that you state you just have to know your players and know your team I guess it's okay then because you have to know yourself but it's like
[02:00:39] it felt bad to me where I'm like I don't know why I'm missing like why can none of my characters make a three point shot Jess used to be you she's like he's open from three why is he shooting it babe he doesn't shoot the three
[02:00:53] look at his stats he's a basketball player they all shoot the baskets you saw Jess like three years ago and then Jess now Jess is like oh like I gotta get this person over here and like she became like a basketball savant I would say
[02:01:07] she's learned it all I wanna see the highest rate of play as you guys keep talking I'm curious now I mean I don't think I have any more me points out to this Liv do you have any points you want to raise before we go to final
[02:01:17] final words something I might be missing or any details with the game you know people play 2k because they want to play a basketball video game we all know it's not good we know the product is getting worse every single year and they're never gonna change it
[02:01:33] if people keep playing by the game so either EA live NBA live's gotta make a comeback or we're stuck with this Mr. Gilgis Mr. Gilgis is number four he's the fucking number four person repping ok see look at look at us we're back
[02:01:53] I thought it was over when what's his name Kevin Durant left or something that's ok see been relevant they weren't they were pretty bad and then this year they actually went to the second round of the playoffs so next year their teams pretty young
[02:02:11] but they so they'll be pretty good next year again so if you want to follow ok see in October I know I always know because I can I like when I go to break down to bar crawl I see everyone and they're super happy
[02:02:23] I'm like oh the thunder must be doing well and it's like it's like December it's like some point time when the basketball is not even playing I don't know what the fuck is going on no it's going on in December don't worry ok thank god um
[02:02:35] I know what was that other thing I was just about to say nah I don't remember it doesn't fucking matter let's get out of here well I was just trying to look real quick and see if there's like what are our choices if it's like
[02:02:45] hey I don't want to play 2k what other basketball games are popping off you don't have any none recently no you don't have any because I played them although if you play Nintendo switch sports they're getting a free basketball update over the summer so just that I
[02:03:05] are going to download that and play I mean I one year ago there is an NBA 2k reddit it says what's your favorite basketball game that isn't 2k and then the top the top applies NBA street volume 1 it used to be lit
[02:03:21] that game was like on the fucking PS2 oh those games are so good there really isn't one no there's not I mean there's the Mario Mario 3 on 3 or whatever it was called for the DS yeah oh wait here's Wikipedia let's go basketball games alright the last
[02:03:41] do you want to hear the last 5 yeah sure it's uneventful it's NBA 2k and then the year it's all the last 7 of them I think the last NBA live was like 2018 or 2019 it was 2019 and then that that's all they wrote I'm sorry basketball games
[02:04:03] wasn't there a space jam 2 game it was a brawler though it was like a beat em up streets of rage it wasn't a basketball game space jam a new legacy the game it was pretty bad it is not a basketball game you're right this is not
[02:04:21] this is like streets of rage I should just listen to you alright so the list is not looking good I think we go into final words then I'll take these first final words this is going to be a recommend for me actually I think the new player experience
[02:04:37] is pretty terrible like if you are unfamiliar with basketball or sports in general you're probably not going to have a great time but I can see the value in this game and even though like I've read a lot on the reddit about people complaining about
[02:04:53] so many different things with the game there's a lot wrong with it the thing is though is like if you just I think it can be a good game despite all the terrible things in it which is a bad way to sell it
[02:05:07] but it's like if Naive was like yo let's play another match at 2k the struggle going I guess wait hold on because then you'd have to download 180 gigabytes oh my god it's because of that stupid fucking city with the subway there's no reason for this
[02:05:25] to be I wish that was just like completely optional you didn't have to download that the funniest thing too is that these graphics in this game are fucking dog they're dog do-do I don't know what is happening well it's like this would look great
[02:05:39] I don't understand because it's just a sports game it's like I don't they just get sweatier they're like oh what it is they're like oh look at these graphics we really fine tune and it's just like LeBron's sweatier and you put less hair on him
[02:05:52] that's really it so LeBron's not happy about that he doesn't want to be so nobody wants to be sweaty it's like every single bead of sweat is one gigabyte on each character boss yeah so another thing is this might be a big but the steam version
[02:06:10] because this was released on for like was a PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4 yes the version on steam is the PlayStation 4 version of the game I caramba on steam is really grumpy that they have the the worst looking version of the game that unplayable on the switch
[02:06:30] but I can't confirm because I can't imagine downloading a game like this on the same like they have to cut stuff because I don't even think the switch has that much well no I don't know how they can do it because already on like some of the
[02:06:48] switch carts is like they will just be like you have to have internet connection because we're gonna have to download stuff to fill the rest of the game but anyways for my final words this is a recommend for me but be warned there is a very
[02:07:00] steep learning curve and you're probably gonna hate a lot of things but you might want to buy something that you like and yeah if you can get through the 164 or 180 download you might like it especially if it's free on game pass like how we played it
[02:07:14] do not buy this game though I would not pay any money for this game but if it's free or part of your game pass and who wants the next final words my final words will be this steam review that I found it says from
[02:07:30] it's right it's night plays it says hello 2k24 I work for Tesla and I wanted to get my son an early Christmas present so he always with 3L is wanted to, wanted this game on his windows 11 he's been crying and crying period saying
[02:07:46] it is not working and you know I'm like 34 you know I'm like 34 I don't play these games but he says please stop the black screen and lag and like it makes him leave so please 2k if you do not answer period I will file a lawsuit
[02:08:04] good final words because they make millions of dollars and he is just a number Phillip read that final words from Nazi dog with 80 hours on record it recommend he says Cobb Bryant nice what are your final words does recommend not recommend to our dear listeners at home I
[02:08:30] I have played a lot of that's tough that's tough one you put me in a hard spot I like I enjoy basketball so as a basketball fan do I wish the game was going to be better of course I wish the game mechanics would be better
[02:08:48] are they going to fix it I know they're not going to fix it so just and I will take turns buying the game each year if that's what we got to do so I say that if you want more basketball in your life play 2k
[02:09:03] if you're like basketball how many Super Bowls do they play then I think you should download something else that's why I was trying to look I'm like if only you could find another basketball game to recommend instead you can't they don't make them not even in our game
[02:09:22] even non NBA basketball games that's the other part is like it doesn't have to be NBA like Blitz that wasn't mad and affiliated one of the backyard baseball NBA playground which is like a cartoonish version of the game but it's not very good they have something on steam
[02:09:36] is like 3v3 or 3 on 3 and it looks like a pay to win game so people are like this is trash this is trash ok so it was 2k so like pick your poison basketball fans I changed my recommend to not recommend
[02:09:52] because this guy brought it to my attention that you cannot have sex with LeBron James pretty upset that is not a feature no seat no hidden romance oh my god if you played I think it was 2k 16 they had Spike Lee do like the my career mode
[02:10:12] and they have like this wild plot the year guy was like from the hood and then his best friend keeps getting into trouble and he like murder someone and you also have a girlfriend but you like have to like cut ties with your you gotta look this up
[02:10:30] it's the Spike Lee one it's the only Spike Lee one I think it's 2k 16 but there's like this whole like there's cinematics and everything and you're like you gotta cut the dead weight of your friend because he's gonna impact your career and then they just turned it into
[02:10:46] like the city afterwards and that's all shit the one I played had a story with like I did that prelude thing and it was like you're getting out of college and you have to play your first NBA game and you play your first Hall of Fame
[02:11:00] game and it was like this is cool you don't even have to win you get all the thousand gavers score you can lose every game it's totally fine it is 2k 16 if anyone wanted to go watch all the cut scenes from my career yeah 2k 16 the movie
[02:11:16] yeah they do that we'll put it in the fucking description yeah I don't like that I'm just trying to think of like other minigames because you already talked about like you can be a rapper and I'm like oh that's cool you can design your own shoes
[02:11:30] that's cool you can do fashion the minigames is going to the gym and doing like the like QTEs like Max Payne oh how did you not okay so if you go to the gym you go to the gym and you lift weights
[02:11:46] like QTEs and then you do sprints and you just hit L2 R2 L2 R2 yeah you do a finger workout essentially you fucking biceps that's the by the way the 2k 2016 movie or whatever is two and a half hours long of cut scenes? so long
[02:12:11] for a sports game no it's fucking nuts Spike Lee brother it's like Def Jam the fucking 40 acres of mule film works do you guys want to never mind let's just leave it on that note alright Liv how can you give us a little
[02:12:33] a little recommendation of where we can find you? well thank you for having me always down to talk basketball even if it's in the shitty video game sense on Liv I'm from the top tenors so I do top ten lists with my friend James
[02:12:49] and basically our whole premise of the show is we pick a topic and then behind the scenes we both have our list of ten and we make our own argument for the definitive top ten and we keep score to see whose picks make the final list
[02:13:01] so if you want a competitive top ten list follow us over on YouTube at the Top Tenors show nice there will be a link in the description and Nave what are we playing next week? I don't know so this 40 acres in a mule film works is
[02:13:17] Spike Lee's film company so that makes sense so this was just James's project he just hijacked the 2K thing and the developers were like look he's just doing a thing maybe it'll work out and they scrapped the whole thing
[02:13:31] and they said we're going to make micro transaction city yeah because that makes way more money and it has it's a lot less work