Episode 152: Orc Must Die! 3 - Booking It

Episode 152: Orc Must Die! 3 - Booking It

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Welcome to episode 152 of the Gaming Together Podcast!

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[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to Gaming Together Cooperative Podcast.

[00:00:19] I'm your host Phillip and I'm here with my co-op partner Nave.

[00:00:21] Each pod we play their cooperative experience and relate to you the listener.

[00:00:24] This game is a criminal or crime of co-op or something better off playing solo.

[00:00:27] Hey Nave, what's poppin'?

[00:00:30] Not shit.

[00:00:31] I uh, almost died.

[00:00:33] Yeah I saw!

[00:00:34] It was like uh, well, dear listeners at home, if you're unfamiliar, Nave lives

[00:00:38] in an area known as Tornado Alley which is famous for tornadoes.

[00:00:45] For its shrimp gum jambalaya.

[00:00:48] Yeah that too.

[00:00:49] And the tornadoes they sell at the gas station, now they come and go and they spin.

[00:00:54] Yeah, which are just like, what are they actually?

[00:00:58] They're like ancient, no, taquitos?

[00:01:00] Taquitos?

[00:01:01] Oh yeah the taquitos, yeah they're tornadoes or taquitos.

[00:01:04] Which is cute, that's a very cute naming convention.

[00:01:08] But uh yeah there was a terrible tornado yesterday, last night.

[00:01:13] Which is why we did not finish the game of the week, spoilers for ahead.

[00:01:20] But it completely destroyed, I don't remember the name of the town, there was a town that

[00:01:25] just got obliterated off of the map.

[00:01:27] Sulphur?

[00:01:28] Sulphur, Oklahoma?

[00:01:29] Yeah dude, isn't it crazy, I saw a bunch of before and after pictures and I was

[00:01:35] like oh shit.

[00:01:37] That's not too far away from here, from where I'm at.

[00:01:40] There was some more, there's another tornado that went down in Midwest City.

[00:01:43] I think, and then another one in Norman.

[00:01:45] Which are both like 10 minutes away, like Norman's like 8 minutes south and Midwest

[00:01:51] City is like 10 minutes east of me.

[00:01:54] I'm like fuck.

[00:01:56] So it's like you plus or minus just a few miles and you could have not been

[00:02:01] doing so well with your apartment.

[00:02:06] Was it the goof troop?

[00:02:07] Someone posted like, oh do they have My Hero Academia shelters that you run to

[00:02:10] when this happens?

[00:02:12] I mean did you run to shelter?

[00:02:14] No I just played Psychonauts 2.

[00:02:16] Just hope for the best.

[00:02:18] Yeah while Sulphur was getting obliterated I was sleeping like a baby.

[00:02:21] Oh my god.

[00:02:23] Well did you ever wonder like, this is gonna be the time I'm gonna go to sleep

[00:02:26] and I'm gonna wake up and my wall is just gonna be caved in?

[00:02:29] I'll wake up and like half of my apartment's gone, like the Titanic.

[00:02:34] You open up your bedroom door and it's just like nothing's there.

[00:02:38] That's as if my bedroom doors are ever closed.

[00:02:40] I live by myself.

[00:02:41] All my doors are open.

[00:02:42] Yeah but even if you live by yourself maybe you're paranoid.

[00:02:45] You want a second line of defense.

[00:02:46] No I want, if someone breaks in my front door I want my dog to have the

[00:02:50] easiest time to get straight to it and then get kicked because she's not

[00:02:53] gonna attack the person.

[00:02:56] Oh yeah well I mean she barks though so she would alert you to danger.

[00:03:02] Which reminds me like every, like you know how like you'll hear some weird

[00:03:05] noise and you're like wow is my house haunted or something?

[00:03:08] Like every time I hear something I always just stare at her.

[00:03:10] I'm like is that real?

[00:03:12] And she's like, she's not paying attention.

[00:03:15] It's like schizophrenia service dogs.

[00:03:17] Like I saw a video where a guy was like hey this dog helps me with my hallucinations.

[00:03:23] If I'm seeing somebody you know in my house I can point at them and say like

[00:03:26] greet and then I look at the dog and if the dog doesn't acknowledge that someone's

[00:03:31] there then I know that it's just imagination.

[00:03:35] That's true.

[00:03:37] Oh and I use my dog to protect myself from my imagination.

[00:03:43] You couldn't do it, this is why dogs are better than cats you can't use a cat for

[00:03:46] that because cats just stare at anything like they'll stare at nothing.

[00:03:53] Yeah that's been Pet Talk and we are a video games podcast and we're gonna be

[00:03:57] talking about Orcs Must Die 3 but before we get there Nave let's just check in

[00:04:02] with what games we have been playing.

[00:04:05] So Nave what have you been playing?

[00:04:08] Well I beat Red Dead 2.

[00:04:11] I was like really close to the end whenever we last recorded and so that didn't take too

[00:04:16] much longer.

[00:04:18] It's my favorite game I've probably ever played after playing it a second time.

[00:04:23] I have a tier list that I've been I saw every game in 2024 I've been playing

[00:04:27] I'm keeping a list a lot of people do this but I'm doing it in the form of a

[00:04:31] tier list so I'm like ranking them also at the same time against each other

[00:04:36] So Red Dead was at the top of S tier above like a dragon infinite wealth above

[00:04:41] the Witcher 3 above the first season of The Walking Dead.

[00:04:46] I've been playing some fucking heat this year.

[00:04:48] So it seems like you're just going on a victory lap at this point just going back

[00:04:52] for the classics.

[00:04:53] It really does feel like that because you know I already said before I'm

[00:04:56] playing Psychonauts 2 that's the game I'm currently playing.

[00:05:00] Philip was waiting on me to finish the chapter I was on.

[00:05:03] But in between those two I decided to buy and replay Red Dead Redemption 1

[00:05:11] because I have a lot of fond memories of that game and that game is old

[00:05:16] and doesn't feel too great.

[00:05:19] It feels like a 360 game right?

[00:05:21] Yeah but it's like it genuinely the mission structure of the game feels

[00:05:25] feels like I'm I can only describe it as Grand Theft Auto San Andreas but

[00:05:32] Cowboys like it feels that old like I don't know what's changed like there

[00:05:37] it's not even crazy dissimilar to how Red Dead Redemption 2 is but Red Dead

[00:05:41] Redemption 2 has like so many good transitions in the missions and like

[00:05:44] all the missions blend so much better into the open world whereas Red Dead

[00:05:49] Redemption 1 like you go to the marker everything stops you do a cut

[00:05:52] scene that's like 10 seconds long they're like they're like greetings

[00:05:55] greetings we need to do this okay let's go do that cut scene over you go get on

[00:06:00] your horse go to the place do it and then as soon as you're done it's like

[00:06:03] oh you did the thing thank you cutscene over you're just mission

[00:06:08] accomplished here's your money it's like yeah reward respect gained it's so

[00:06:13] weird and it really pulled me out but I still put the game in a tier I

[00:06:17] beat it I also beat this game yeah well Red Dead Redemption 2 is like 80 hours

[00:06:23] long and Red Dead Redemption 1 is like 20 so the the horse thing like keep

[00:06:28] the same horse through the whole game no I I tried to because I so you have

[00:06:34] to get a new horse in an early mission like you rope your own horse

[00:06:37] and then they give it to you they're like just keep that Mustang and I

[00:06:41] was like yeah sure I'll keep the Mustang but I have like a pre-order

[00:06:43] bonus like warhorse which is like a three-star horse I think that's the

[00:06:48] best tier of horse you can get and then I was running with that that first

[00:06:51] horse for a while and then I accidentally clicked on that warhorse

[00:06:54] and it just swapped me out and I was like oh and then I have no idea where

[00:06:59] the other horse went so I guess as soon as you swap out horses you just

[00:07:02] literally can't get the other horse back but I have that warhorse for the

[00:07:05] rest of the game I just remember an online you could say your horse is

[00:07:09] like the donkey yeah I think it was a really yeah actually yeah better than a

[00:07:16] donkey I don't know and the online wasn't too great if we look at the

[00:07:21] tier list donkey solid C tier mule high B yeah not not a where the worst

[00:07:29] horse is the zebra yeah but uh right I mean red dead ones okay this the

[00:07:35] ending is still fantastic but other than that I was quite fatigued with cowboys

[00:07:42] after 130 hours yeah and so said you want to go to psychic summer camp yeah

[00:07:48] I was like I need the opposite of what I've been playing so I'm gonna play

[00:07:52] this platforming very colorful very cartoony

[00:07:56] Psychonauts 2 and then I forgot that this game is very sad as well so long

[00:08:04] long-seated family trauma with betrayal from government agencies it's

[00:08:09] great yeah so I'm probably over halfway through psycho nuts you're

[00:08:14] ready I'm on a absolute warpath when I'm not getting pulled away from

[00:08:18] these games by Philip going works or so I am fucking obliterating these

[00:08:26] really good first person or these really good triple a games I mean it goes

[00:08:30] right into the games I'm playing speaking of really good triple a I've

[00:08:34] just been playing no kind of well yeah I think Nino Cooney would count as a

[00:08:39] triple a series isn't it's bandai level five I think Nino Cooney's like

[00:08:45] a double a game like I'm playing the complete Nino Cooney to Renving

[00:08:53] Kingdom revenant excuse me the complete edition or whatever kingdom

[00:08:57] Kingmaker and it looks real good on series X which I did not know this

[00:09:02] did you know the original Nino Cooney it was like a DS or 3ds game or

[00:09:07] something like that that then got remade or like PlayStation 3 well no

[00:09:14] I'm like literally looking at that right now yeah the old one looked

[00:09:18] bad the old one was also I think level five which I wonder I think those are

[00:09:23] the same guys that do like the nine people nine doors thing is that a

[00:09:26] different group dark cloud there's one wow they're involved in a lot of fucking

[00:09:32] a professor Leighton yeah okay yes okay watch watch mentioned anyway is good I

[00:09:42] complain last time that was spent a lot of time doing side quests in the

[00:09:45] kingdom builder bullshit or whatever I'm still doing it like I have not

[00:09:48] broken away from it it's like every time a side quest pops up I just got to

[00:09:52] go do it because it makes my kingdom better and then all my my followers

[00:09:56] are subjects they call them subjects are happier you would like this game

[00:10:01] like I don't know if this would be a good streaming game unless you like

[00:10:06] mainline the story but it is it's cute and fun and yeah that is one

[00:10:12] thing that I've definitely noticed with a lot of these games especially and with

[00:10:16] like a dragon infinite wealth where I'm like doing the same thing for a long

[00:10:20] period of time I'm like this is a terrible streaming experience unless

[00:10:24] I'm like talking and interacting with like the people watching me but I am

[00:10:27] doing that already so it's like I don't know it's it's so weird I don't

[00:10:31] know what makes a good streaming game or what doesn't I don't know but

[00:10:35] whenever I'm not playing that I wanted something like this is a meaty

[00:10:39] boy Nino Cuny is so I'm like I need something lighter I need a I need a

[00:10:42] little palate cleanser a little miso soup you know to go with this fried

[00:10:47] chicken yeah so I picked up on game pass bloodstained ritual of the night

[00:10:53] which is a spiritual successor to the old Castlevanias not like the

[00:10:58] cool sexy Castlevanias where Dracula is like 3d and running around and

[00:11:02] finding those are the ugly ones yeah but like the okay well the old ones

[00:11:10] this is this one's also in 3d but it's like 2d 3d like the I think it's 2.5

[00:11:16] D well yeah I guess it's a 3d environment but you're stuck on a 2d

[00:11:21] plane going yeah good game incredible actually I really like this game I

[00:11:26] think I'm like five hours in name this game is hella good like even in

[00:11:31] Japanese it's so I have owned it for like six years and I've just played on

[00:11:35] to play it I think I think there's more than one and I think I own both of

[00:11:39] them yeah there's a there's a sequel I think this is the older well actually

[00:11:44] I'm not sure the older one because they keep referencing events that

[00:11:47] happened before like all the characters are they're like don't you remember

[00:11:50] what happened ten years ago and I'm like I don't know what happened ten

[00:11:52] years ago so maybe you ritual the night is the sequel I'm not sure I

[00:11:56] have to look I guess we could never take two seconds to check also made by level

[00:12:02] five let's see how there's so many acronyms okay there's curse of the

[00:12:08] moon in ritual the night no curse there's curse of the moon one and curse

[00:12:12] of the moon too there's a Nino Cooney anime there is there's a movie I don't

[00:12:18] know about the anime I watch this movie yeah the movie's not bad but it

[00:12:23] doesn't seem to like it's it feels like I'm gonna describe this like it has no

[00:12:29] connection to the games that's probably the best yeah I feel like these video

[00:12:34] adaptations that don't have anything to do with the games are the ones that

[00:12:38] succeed the hardest yeah it is interesting because the one that it's

[00:12:44] also an Isekai with about three friends who they go to the other

[00:12:48] world through two different accidents one I think they're about to get by

[00:12:51] car and the other one is they drive a car off a bridge crashing it into the

[00:12:56] water and both times takes them to Nino Cooney which Nino it's like the

[00:13:01] second world does Cooney mean car because why do they always have

[00:13:05] something to do with a car no that's country or kingdom so it's like the

[00:13:09] second country I guess but uh yeah in main character he's in a wheelchair

[00:13:14] and you're like you just know his legs don't work it whenever he's in

[00:13:18] real world but whenever he goes to Nino Cooney he's like a badass knight so

[00:13:23] this is so this is just yeah oh I didn't even think about God great yeah

[00:13:30] okay there's a lot of crossover without because he also meets a princess

[00:13:36] and they fall in love okay excellent no no yeah okay there might it's just

[00:13:41] avatar good job Netflix is it a Netflix original it is a Netflix

[00:13:45] original you're not getting this by me no I know you got it anyways blood-stained

[00:13:51] ritual tonight real good it is the lightest souls like imagine if we're

[00:13:59] gonna bring Dark Souls into this which we must the thing about it is

[00:14:03] death is last save you go back to last save and there's only manual

[00:14:08] saves so you need to be aware of that this isn't like a yeah so save

[00:14:13] often is basically what it comes down to but the game is real good our style

[00:14:20] real good some of the character models a little clunky but the monsters are

[00:14:24] what makes it because they just put some some weird monsters in there

[00:14:29] there's like a giant just a cat's head with like a antlers what's it

[00:14:33] called like a jackalope but it's a cat yeah yeah there's there's a like a

[00:14:38] Yorkies head but it's detached from the body so just jumps around like a

[00:14:42] chain chomp I don't know it's a silly the silly anime Dracula game oh and

[00:14:51] everything is stained glass themed if you didn't give the connection with

[00:14:54] bloodstained because I did not make that connection at first but it's

[00:14:58] stained glass is the reference so whenever I'm not playing that nave

[00:15:02] have you heard the news about on the emulation buzz hold on wait I

[00:15:07] gotta send you a link you because you mentioned something and it sparked

[00:15:11] something in my brain I just need you to read that alright and they send me a

[00:15:16] Kotaku link great good start and it's a article titled the tortured poets

[00:15:22] department is the dark souls of Taylor Swift albums okay apparently there's a

[00:15:28] there's an album called the tortured poets department by Taylor Swift god

[00:15:32] you can reference anything screenshots from Dark Souls yeah this is I'm glad

[00:15:41] I found that yeah well I'm trying to find some some connections it says I know

[00:15:49] that's I know how that sounds but just give me a chance to explain it's this

[00:15:52] yeah I'm trying to find his explanation but it's not there oh

[00:15:56] apparently it's like here it is Swift has a quote saying that uh like if

[00:16:01] you aren't paying attention you're gonna miss things in her songs and

[00:16:04] I've trained my fans to be that way much like Dark Souls players alright so

[00:16:11] Swift fans and Dark Souls players have a lot more in common than you'd expect

[00:16:16] thank goodness well speaking of games not as good as Dark Souls or Taylor

[00:16:21] Swift blue dragon awakened shadow oh wait go back so anime not anime no go

[00:16:29] back emulation okay so Apple has rerolled their terms of service or their

[00:16:37] app store and they're now allowing emulators on official emulators no need

[00:16:42] for siloed in your jailbreak or any crazy stuff like that and already one

[00:16:47] of the biggest emulators Delta which does Game Boy Game Boy Advance

[00:16:52] Nintendo DS Nintendo 64 and and then like a virtual boy or something like

[00:16:57] that is up on the market completely free no ads or anything no ads no Chinese

[00:17:02] trackers just free app you can go in there you can emulate your games blame

[00:17:08] on your phone ready to go and it is top of the charts for the last like

[00:17:12] week the one of the most popular sites of Vim's layer that is once again

[00:17:17] another like hey no frills if you need to download game roms this is a

[00:17:21] site for it that site went down for like two days as like they were

[00:17:25] people trying to download their their zeldas and Pokemons to play them on

[00:17:29] their iPhones by the way this has been on Android for the last 10 years yeah

[00:17:34] like I was waiting for my moment yeah like yes Android has already at this

[00:17:40] now the big thing going on is people were going what's the next step though

[00:17:45] because like this is already hit people are playing the crap out of

[00:17:49] games on here playing their DS their Pokemons all that stuff next step is

[00:17:53] you know 3ds maybe gamecube emulation PlayStation 1 has not shown up yet but

[00:17:59] it should be coming up soon PlayStation 2 and switch maybe but I'm gonna be

[00:18:04] playing switch on your iPhone 13 how would you do that with some of the

[00:18:07] games I guess I guess the iPhones have gyroscopes in them don't they they

[00:18:11] do but the big thing is is apparently Apple has a different little hitch so

[00:18:17] they're they're thrown in the wrench a wrench in the works a monkey is in

[00:18:20] the machine wrenching it up and it is I probably call it is like JIT or

[00:18:25] something like that for some ways like basically you can't access the full

[00:18:30] power of the chipset without 100% Apple approval saying that you won't you

[00:18:34] need this I don't know it's like Apple's way to keep people from

[00:18:38] melting their iPhones or something like that because like they're like a your

[00:18:42] phone will heat up if you use this for too long type deal but it's like

[00:18:46] some apps will have this authorized but a lot of them do not and it's like case

[00:18:50] by case and the dolphin community which is the GameCube emulator and Wii

[00:18:57] emulator have come on and said basically their app will not run

[00:19:01] without JIT support and Apple has not authorized them for it and so they

[00:19:06] are not going to go through with making an app at this stage because

[00:19:09] iPhones just can't run it they can't support GameCube right now with the

[00:19:13] restrictions the throttling that Apple has in place GameCube's too powerful man

[00:19:18] it's too powerful and everyone's like and with the defeat of GameCube they're

[00:19:22] like switch is impossible right I would say the GameCube's more powerful

[00:19:26] than the switch you are correct sir no okay it's not as more powerful it's

[00:19:33] that the weight so the switch is basically just a phone you know the

[00:19:37] way architecture is set up so I think literally the hardware inside of

[00:19:41] it it's like the same like chipsets that they use for phones or like it's

[00:19:45] not phones but tablets I think so we don't know who the next big you not

[00:19:50] since you died like what the next replacement switch emulators gonna be

[00:19:54] but they should actually be able to write more fish and code than the

[00:19:58] GameCube developers or game dolphin team and create a possible switch

[00:20:03] emulator on iPhones which my iPhone is already more powerful than my

[00:20:08] switch as far as like computing power so yeah we know that because we play we

[00:20:12] played Pokemon unite on both mobile yeah and you're like 14 frames on the

[00:20:17] switch and like oh no it's getting real hot for some reason feels like

[00:20:22] cheating beating those kids on the switch so we're waiting for a lot

[00:20:27] more systems basically to come to iPhone but until then I've been

[00:20:32] playing blue dragon awakened shadow which is the it's either the second

[00:20:38] or third in the series where you get to play as your OC character in the blue

[00:20:41] dragon universe and you hang out with shoe in the rest of them see I've never

[00:20:46] actually played the first blue dragon I only watched you play it back whenever

[00:20:50] you were also playing like Final Fantasy 13 I'm like what is this

[00:20:53] Japanese wee-boo trash like I'm not yeah I'm watching this isn't Dragon

[00:20:57] Ball and now you're the 13 evangelists or I like that game's bad

[00:21:03] okay I got some YouTube videos I'll send you and it'll it'll change your

[00:21:07] mind on lightning but why lightning is good I will watch those yeah but this

[00:21:17] it feels like fantasy star universe oddly enough like I put some

[00:21:21] screenshots in there and like the box art it's just a an action RPG and just

[00:21:28] kind of walk around and fight shit joker or do you get to make your own

[00:21:32] name you get to make your own name that's all my name that's all my

[00:21:35] screenshot someone's obviously a how was that game persona persona fan name is

[00:21:42] so joker yeah but the game is not bad so this came out after the Xbox

[00:21:46] 361 yeah it had there were two sequels actually there's blue dragon

[00:21:52] plus and blue dragon awakened shadow I think blue dragons on sale right now

[00:21:57] because I saw people buying it on Twitter and I was gonna read I wanted

[00:22:01] replay it because of the Akira Toriyama stuff but Sandland just came out but

[00:22:06] also I'm poor and I'm I'm I'm struggling right now I'm going to three

[00:22:13] shows this week also so I am like really trying to budget right now I'm

[00:22:19] drinking water out of a McDonald's cup I don't know if you saw that it's

[00:22:25] like what are you trying to say with the drinking water things like I

[00:22:27] just can't afford my PBRs yeah I can't afford the PBRs I bought so I ordered

[00:22:33] some pizza today and I got money well this is the thing all right I'm gonna

[00:22:40] eat out a few times this week but not every day like I usually do so I'm

[00:22:45] gonna be eating wrong mostly but I ordered some pizza and the reason why

[00:22:47] is cuz I was gonna get to have them bring me three 20 ounce bottles of

[00:22:51] soda and I was going to ration them throughout the week right but

[00:22:56] so I got one for my pizza and then I put one in the fridge and when I grabbed

[00:23:00] the third one I dropped it. Were you holding it by the lid as well or something? No I was holding it by the body but it's all

[00:23:08] condensationed you know what I mean so it just slipped out of my hand as

[00:23:12] soon as I picked it up and just tumbled into the floor and so I'm

[00:23:15] gonna have hopefully I just forget about it and then I started drinking

[00:23:18] it and I don't notice it's flat. It didn't explode

[00:23:26] I mean it was in a bottle but well I mean sometimes the bottles like rupture

[00:23:29] like you've already dropped a gallon of milk no I luckily I've never dropped a

[00:23:34] gallon of milk before and they explode I bet cuz those things aren't like

[00:23:39] that's the fucking soda bottles are made different like milk jugs

[00:23:43] different are like bullshit weak plastic I don't know how to else to

[00:23:47] describe it you could crush it in one hand like that's what kind of I

[00:23:51] mean I can crush a two liter in one hand as well no not a two liter a 20

[00:23:55] ounce I mean you could squish the middle but not the top or the bottom

[00:23:58] I know what you mean reinforced yeah those are tough tough boys so that they

[00:24:04] fall out of the the soda machines better yeah how come they can get

[00:24:10] shaken up in the soda me I was watching at work there's a soda

[00:24:13] machine and they were changing out the sodas and the dude was just he he

[00:24:17] hits a switch and all the sodas come just falling out right and so I'm

[00:24:22] like how the fuck aren't they like just completely shaken up if I barely bump my

[00:24:27] fucking soda bottle it'll be completely flat but if they fall out of this what

[00:24:31] technology do they have where they able to just fall out like loosely

[00:24:35] like that I don't know I still don't understand how carbonation really works

[00:24:41] well like why does the beer fizz type stuff I think it's something to do

[00:24:46] with like the intro like the change in pressure introduces a bunch of air

[00:24:53] rushing into the thing and then it shakes it up you know what I mean and

[00:24:56] there's something like that I don't know that's interesting maybe I bet there's

[00:25:01] a million different fucking videos YouTube videos talking yeah yeah I'm

[00:25:05] having a soda spicy yeah why dude they have started uploading full episodes of

[00:25:11] Mythbusters up onto YouTube like discovery channel is no I don't know

[00:25:16] it's just Mythbusters YouTube channel I don't know well like you

[00:25:20] know Adam Savage the one of the Mythbusters yeah the one that doesn't

[00:25:25] wear actually subscribe to is a his YouTube I think it's like yeah or

[00:25:28] something like that so for a long time he'll do a bunch he does

[00:25:31] questions about Mythbusters all the time so it's like what was the most

[00:25:34] dangerous myth you ever did and he'll just like go by in the scenes about

[00:25:36] it so I'm pretty sure he's been seeing a lot of so much success that

[00:25:40] he's able to convince whoever holds the Mythbusters IP to be like upload

[00:25:45] this shit onto YouTube this is successful people will watch this and I

[00:25:49] am watching they're like and and they're like an hour long for one myth

[00:25:53] and I'm like I don't remember that I don't remember these episodes being

[00:25:58] like this I thought were they like really long I could have swore that

[00:26:02] Mythbusters episodes would have like three myths in one episode right if

[00:26:06] they needed a fight time working they usually had like the B team going on

[00:26:10] working on like something smaller while the big boys were doing

[00:26:14] something else yeah I guess I just don't remember very good another

[00:26:18] thing was for the 30th anniversary this is way too late this doesn't I don't

[00:26:21] think this is running anymore but Adult Swim was having 24 hour Space Ghost

[00:26:25] marathons for days and for multiple days I watched I've watched every

[00:26:30] episode that they show they didn't show every episode of Space Ghost but

[00:26:33] they showed a lot of them and I watched them multiple times like at

[00:26:36] work I was just listening to it listen to Space Ghost

[00:26:39] dude I saw every episode of Space Ghost where did you watch them at

[00:26:47] it's on max oh yeah I think I have mass through fucking Cox cable but I just

[00:26:54] don't know how to get it after a while dude it is so the fucking episode where

[00:26:59] he's with with weird out Yankevich and they started they start singing that

[00:27:03] he's like hit the B sharp and he's like

[00:27:10] or there's never said with Lassie shows up and he's like I'm now going

[00:27:14] to make an inaudible sound to humans that only dogs can hear this is such a

[00:27:22] waste of time this show fucking sucks it's funny is like the longer I

[00:27:27] watch it the more I just don't like Space Ghost but I like more are you

[00:27:31] like and yeah what's what's the lizard not blizzard the buzzer act

[00:27:35] is or act like Zorak more than like space everything for everyone else it's

[00:27:43] so fucking but did you see the one with you had to have seen the one with Randy

[00:27:47] macho man Randy Savage is his grandfather and he's and he bullies

[00:27:52] space goes the whole time and eventually he leaves and like that you

[00:27:56] know that's so Raven you remember that show yeah Ravens mode comes on

[00:28:00] the show but she isn't even on that so Raven she's so young she's still

[00:28:03] on like the Cosby show and then so much of a Randy Savage grandpa is

[00:28:10] dust the interview he's like oh little girl did you know you're on the TV and

[00:28:14] she's like yeah I didn't know that she's straight he's like oh it's so

[00:28:21] good everyone go watch space goes yeah you probably find somebody uploaded

[00:28:25] all of it to YouTube if you really are desperate to find it they're great

[00:28:29] I can probably see the name of something like three hours of space

[00:28:33] goes yeah anyways news and updates nave what did you buy besides red dead I've

[00:28:41] also got bully because there was a kick well there was a there was a well yes

[00:28:47] also but Xbox does this thing every now and then where like literally it's

[00:28:52] like buy one get one free and it has a bunch of games and like they never

[00:28:56] used to have this like this has been like the last year maybe they

[00:28:59] updated the store so that it could support this weird thing but literally it

[00:29:05] just like it shows you a list of games and then you just click two of them and

[00:29:08] then it just sorts it out and then you check out it's pretty fucking cool

[00:29:11] and so this is the second time I've done it the first one was I think

[00:29:15] whenever I bought Sonic Frontier it was in one of those as well so I

[00:29:19] thought that like no I have not I am only playing games I played before

[00:29:25] apparently yeah it's the ones that you know are hit you had to play the

[00:29:30] classics that's what the audience came for they didn't come for the new album

[00:29:33] they came for hybrid theory yeah I had this big list of games that I'm wanting

[00:29:38] to play and I sent it to a bunch of people and I was like hey is any of

[00:29:43] these jump out at you like do I really need to play any of these and

[00:29:46] then chrono cross one hands down like not even it would day which is

[00:29:52] surprising because there were some seriously good fucking games on there

[00:29:54] and for some reason everyone's like naeve you got to play chrono cross

[00:29:57] and I don't know why but it just suddenly made me not want to play it

[00:30:02] it has a visual novel built-in naeve you can play the visual novel if you

[00:30:06] want yeah I don't know I will play it I might even play it after

[00:30:10] cyclone us too but I just really I looked at it and I was like oh dude

[00:30:15] now like if you were kind of grumpy with 10 or not 10 was a 10 final

[00:30:22] fantasy 10 you have a little bit of erks because I played about an hour of

[00:30:28] chrono cross and I'm like oh man this is this is old yeah nostalgia it might

[00:30:35] be rough that's the I have owned chrono cross for like 15 16 years

[00:30:41] like the I have the physical PlayStation one disc back there just

[00:30:44] chilling and I just I've literally never gotten around to playing it

[00:30:48] even back in the day I would rather replay Final Fantasy 8 then put in this

[00:30:53] new game that I've had for fucking a long long time you know I don't know

[00:30:58] what's wrong with me like I've only played a little bit eight but I think

[00:31:01] eight is definitely so far better experience than chrono cross of my

[00:31:06] hour of gameplay when our decisions yeah people hate people hate eight but

[00:31:11] that's just cuz they don't have good functioning frontal lobes they're

[00:31:15] not smart like me yeah plus it has a little guitar hero minigame at the

[00:31:19] beginning yeah you got that you get the rise who can or whatever you was

[00:31:24] that what you're talking about whatever that I think there's like a

[00:31:27] play or a musical or something I can't remember like at the beginning it's

[00:31:31] like in I'm like I have to get a perfect score on this now to get all

[00:31:34] the claps oh you're talking about nine that's nine yeah yeah that's the

[00:31:38] point that's it yeah nine is the cute one eight is the very serious one

[00:31:43] yeah eight's the battle high school with gun swords yeah yeah well that's a

[00:31:52] good purchase oh I before we get too far away with it dear listeners at home

[00:31:56] I am really niche I guess with a lot of my bullshit because there's something

[00:32:03] that I'm looking for that I cannot find anywhere so nave do you know

[00:32:07] like how phones used to have like sliding keyboards yeah like well you

[00:32:12] hold your phone and it'd be like as I passion the mic you like slide it down

[00:32:16] and you'd have a little keyboard you type on you're talking about like the

[00:32:20] blackberry or something like that no the blackberry usually was just a

[00:32:23] solid thing I'm talking about like or did you ever see like the PSP go or

[00:32:27] whatever was yeah I know yeah so like now that emulation is popping off

[00:32:33] on iPhone I like man I wish I had like a controller to go with it

[00:32:38] because you can just connect any Bluetooth controller to your phone and

[00:32:41] use it with emulators you know and it's just fine but I want something that I

[00:32:45] can carry with me at all times like a backbone like a backbone except the

[00:32:50] backbone is fucking huge they're like finally a comfortable way to play your

[00:32:54] phone as you hold this massive bigger than a switch you know grips in your

[00:32:59] hands I'm like I'm not I can't put that in my pocket because it's like I

[00:33:03] go with Arthur to the little baby park down the street where the kids

[00:33:06] would get the police called on him and stuff like that I want to be able

[00:33:08] to sit on the bench and pull my phone and play some awaken shadow blue dragon

[00:33:13] you know without crappy touchscreen controls which are terrible of course or

[00:33:18] when eventually they drop like a PSP emulator on the store can't wait to

[00:33:24] play some PSP games especially in Japanese hope a low-croy some ATV X or

[00:33:30] whatever hoping off some chains of Olympus maybe but anyways I want

[00:33:36] something that I could fit in my pocket so I've been looking out there and

[00:33:39] there's like minimalist controllers from like 8-bit dough and stuff like that

[00:33:43] which are like basically joy cons pretty much but we'll have like two

[00:33:48] sticks will be real small and like that's cool but then you got to carry

[00:33:51] an extra controller with you and you gotta like put it on your phone I

[00:33:54] wish there was a like a case for iPhone that had either like a hinge

[00:34:00] like even it was like a clamshell you know if you love like the

[00:34:02] wallet phones where their phone is also their wallet you know like this out I

[00:34:07] wish I had like a wall of phone but yeah cuz you lose one you lose them all

[00:34:11] I'm all in on my phone but he was like if I flip it down and have like I

[00:34:16] don't know like a you know I'm saying like I want to be a clamshell with

[00:34:22] my phone with like little little buns underneath or even better would be

[00:34:25] like a slider like I said the same before like a little slide-out keyboard

[00:34:29] but even if it's just like the crappy little did you ever use a 3ds yeah all

[00:34:37] right so you know what the joystick is like yeah yeah it's just the coin

[00:34:42] slider type thing instead of an actual stick I would I would start over that

[00:34:46] give me two of those for you know any other PSP game in the future that

[00:34:50] requires two sticks I don't know if they do or not I never owned a

[00:34:54] PSP but why is there nothing on the market for this there's like nobody

[00:35:00] that makes like case controller hybrids or anything like that for Android or

[00:35:07] iPhone or anything but besides the back I don't know there are markets of

[00:35:12] people who have set up like 3d prints of similar things like this or they'll

[00:35:17] take Nintendo joy-cons and they'll just mount them to the sides of their

[00:35:22] phone and I'm like that's a bit far because then you got to carry the joy-cons around

[00:35:25] like stuff like I need something that's like built in like I don't know how

[00:35:29] you feel about your pockets or whatever but like if my phone was like twice as

[00:35:32] thick I would not care like I don't need a thin phone like it could be

[00:35:36] three times like I can carry a full-on brick in my pocket and I would be

[00:35:40] fine with that yeah it depends on what kind of pants you wear because

[00:35:44] normally normally that's fine but when I go out like when I go out to the

[00:35:47] bar concerts yeah I wear skinny jeans and it makes it very tough my phone is

[00:35:53] already too big like in those skinny jeans once like I either wear athletic

[00:35:57] shorts or my military uniform which has massive cargo pockets and basketball

[00:36:03] shorts are usually loose so I mean like I have so much pocket space

[00:36:08] that is not being utilized but I don't want to carry an extra

[00:36:11] controller around so I'm here's what I'm thinking I might buy one of these Ava

[00:36:19] doughs small mini controllers and then find a way to 3d print like a hinge so

[00:36:24] that I can like flip it down and how would I look insane in public if I

[00:36:30] had a phone that just had joysticks come basically coming out of the back

[00:36:34] of it or like a controller strapped to my phone type deal would that be

[00:36:40] insane yeah you would look insane I don't know man I don't know because I kind of

[00:36:45] like not like standing out but I used to have a phone case that was like

[00:36:49] Pikachu it had massive Pikachu ears that stuck on and like I would

[00:36:53] struggle to put this thing in my pocket because it would had a huge

[00:36:56] tail and Pikachu ears there's a phone case it was great they ever there

[00:36:59] was made of rubber and I pull it out and people would be like holy shit

[00:37:03] is that your phone like is like I pull it out on the fly line at work

[00:37:07] and like co-workers would be like dude that is an insane phone case like yeah

[00:37:11] so like I think people are too conservative with their phones I feel

[00:37:19] like we've gone the wrong way with phone technology and then you'd be

[00:37:22] bigger with more buttons yeah I'm like I'm thinking about these I'm looking

[00:37:31] at these phones and I can I can vaguely remember them I'm like you

[00:37:35] why couldn't you put 3d print something that went onto the back

[00:37:38] of your phone like a case like but went into your charge port so that it like

[00:37:42] was powered right and then like you just slide it down like those because I was

[00:37:48] saying Blackberry but I was thinking of something else like I'm looking at

[00:37:51] these following a sidekick or something is that what they're called sidekicks

[00:37:54] maybe like and you slide it down and it has those shitty little coin thumb

[00:37:59] sticks like so that you could do shit it's so I don't know it's so weird

[00:38:04] like here like the super small 8-bit controllers these are smaller than joy

[00:38:10] cons and I feel like the something like this would be a mood yeah just take

[00:38:15] this apart and have a 3d case that you put all of whatever is in here into

[00:38:20] that yeah like people do they have like a 3d printer or soldering skills

[00:38:24] I thought you had a 3d printer at your library yeah but it's gonna be

[00:38:28] weird if I go up there every week going like I got another iteration and

[00:38:31] they're like this guy again I mean like yeah I can do it and I well they're at the

[00:38:34] library everyone at the library is fucking weird fellow like look you know

[00:38:41] those things like people make handheld Nintendo 64 is where they take all

[00:38:45] the guts out and I got some controller and shove them together like yeah I'm

[00:38:49] worried that that's gonna have to be my ultimate move I would watch those

[00:38:53] videos be like what how like I'm sure they have videos where they build

[00:38:57] the thing right and so like watch a video where they build it and just

[00:39:00] take inspiration from that maybe something that can exist that way then

[00:39:03] maybe you could sell it so it's all my bad man that's not like a lot of work

[00:39:09] and then I got to buy the controller it is a lot of work it is a hundred

[00:39:12] percent a lot of work it is like is it worth it in the end I'll send you

[00:39:17] my 3ds so that you can eat you can eat its analogs yeah I don't need

[00:39:23] anymore I mean buying the components probably is way cheaper than buying

[00:39:28] the controller but then I have to figure out how to set up the components

[00:39:33] how much is this controller the controllers are usually like 30 bucks I

[00:39:37] think not bad software support oh so it does just go straight into your phone

[00:39:42] yeah I mean you can use those controllers with anything they have a

[00:39:45] variation that has the joysticks too there's another one that is an

[00:39:50] accessibility controller that has the triggers as face buttons as well

[00:39:56] which I thought was interesting that might be better off than trying to use

[00:40:00] triggers like getting the triggers involved in this situation you don't

[00:40:06] want triggers on your fucking phone case that are gonna snap off well no

[00:40:10] they're like little bumpers pretty much not even really triggers I like

[00:40:15] all of the look into this dear listeners I will update you on my

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[00:40:46] help them out I did not find any am I the assholes related to orcs must

[00:40:51] die as it turns out so we are free will and just go to your just uh you see

[00:40:56] when you like you're gonna roll some dice all right then I found one

[00:40:59] number 50 which I rolled the dice on so hopefully it's a good one here I'll

[00:41:03] link it to you whoa they're balding they're balding words this is a throw

[00:41:08] away four two five so I'm assuming is a throw away here they are pulling

[00:41:13] their words oh there's strong language warning all right this from

[00:41:17] four years ago am I the asshole I told him I'm sick of hearing about D&D okay

[00:41:25] what now reddit has prejudged this as not the asshole but we'll see my

[00:41:31] husband 30 male just started playing D&D right at the beginning this

[00:41:35] sounds like that mom that doesn't want to hear about the fucking madden

[00:41:39] please hear about your madden plays or your your rock car soccer plays I

[00:41:45] want to see your replay reel all right my husband 30 male just started playing

[00:41:51] D&D around the beginning of last year at first I female 30 fear this that

[00:41:56] figured that his obsession with the game would slowly dwindle with more

[00:41:59] experience in time I was fucking wrong bolded this is what we in the

[00:42:06] business call foreshadowing literally everything he does now revolves around

[00:42:12] D&D when we talk we either talk about stuff that we have to get done or D&D

[00:42:17] he is constantly cornering me around the house telling me about some new

[00:42:21] rule he found or a new character he developed or what's happening in his D&D

[00:42:26] groups my relatives are even annoyed at him because that's all he wants to

[00:42:30] talk about with anyone all of the gifts for him for every holiday this

[00:42:35] last year were all D&D related his request that includes gifts from me and

[00:42:39] his family he's now dabbling and making his own dice it's impressive he

[00:42:46] constantly makes stupid D&D jokes that I don't get and don't make me laugh

[00:42:53] it's one thing to not to get it but also not to laugh he drinks from D&D

[00:43:00] mugs wears D&D shirts and watches D&D shows all night long he's part of

[00:43:07] every possible D&D chat and group online that he can be because he's so into it I

[00:43:14] tried it out because I wanted to be a good wife and support him in his new

[00:43:17] hobby I played for a while and just never got into it I'm not into

[00:43:20] role-playing and without role play the entire thing is monotonous it's

[00:43:23] just so damn boring to me bolded I'm sure it doesn't help that I hear

[00:43:30] about or see now from my husband is fucking D&D the other day we were

[00:43:35] on a five-day streak of him literally only talking to me about D&D and I

[00:43:38] couldn't take it anymore I told him I couldn't take it and I don't want to

[00:43:42] talk about it for a while I told him I was happy that he found something he

[00:43:44] really loves and is interested in but I'm not into it and though I don't

[00:43:48] mind hearing about it from now and then I'm sick of it being the only

[00:43:51] thing we talked about he said he understood but now he's upset and I

[00:43:55] feel like a bad partner it sucks hating something that your partner

[00:43:58] loves I guess the only reason I like it at all is because he likes it and

[00:44:02] I also feel bad because he's really his only outlet he lost a really close

[00:44:06] relationship last year and I've been really sick so reality bolded is very

[00:44:11] stressful for him he also works and goes to school I want him to have this

[00:44:16] outlet because it's keeping him somewhat sane but I seriously can't

[00:44:19] take anymore it's all I see it's all I see it here about and it gets bad

[00:44:26] enough that I don't want to be around him or talk to him

[00:44:30] oof so this is the op this is like an adult this time it's a similar thing I

[00:44:39] don't care about D&D all right so yeah bowling it down she's tired he's been

[00:44:44] talking about D&D for the last year and will not drop it and she could not

[00:44:48] care less about D&D so is she an asshole for telling him to we're

[00:44:53] gonna not talk to her about it probably not I couldn't imagine being

[00:44:59] into only one thing that much like I can't imagine that that sounds like hell

[00:45:04] to me I can't imagine having the the guts to share this much with someone too

[00:45:09] because like I feel insane if I talk about any of my hobbies for an

[00:45:13] extended period of time because I'll go up to my wife Janna and be like

[00:45:16] oh Japanese grammar rub rub rub rub rub just like going off on stupid

[00:45:21] bullshit that I know she probably doesn't care about and then she's

[00:45:25] like oh that's nice dear and I'm like thank you but also I shouldn't

[00:45:29] have told you that because I'm now I feel like I'm wasting your time or even

[00:45:33] the podcast like I find it hard to talk about the podcast because it's also

[00:45:37] something I want to talk about like oh man you won't believe what we talked

[00:45:39] about on the podcast or what plan for the podcast like I don't want to

[00:45:43] bore with all this stuff yeah I'm kind of on the same way I

[00:45:48] don't talk to anyone about anything I'm doing at all everything I do is

[00:45:52] for me internally and if it's if it's something that's bothering me

[00:45:57] sometimes I'll let it out but like it usually isn't something I'm super into

[00:46:02] it's just something I'm working through I would I need someone to bounce

[00:46:06] words off of to see if I'm insane or not and then like I'm like okay cool

[00:46:10] you seem to still be treating me like a person so I'm probably on the right

[00:46:15] track with this let me keep going on my own like I don't I don't I don't

[00:46:19] know how I've never had someone with me that I could just dump everything

[00:46:24] into like that I don't know it's weird because it didn't say how long they've

[00:46:28] been married or together anything like that but it's like you know me and

[00:46:32] Janet just had our 10 year anniversary and when then we were

[00:46:34] dating for like years before that too so it's like the last you know a

[00:46:39] third of our lives I have just been telling her the dumb shit that I've

[00:46:42] been interested in and I don't think there's ever been a point when she's

[00:46:46] like hey I don't want to hear about halo lore anymore or anything like

[00:46:52] that but you the thing is that you're into more than one thing right oh yeah

[00:46:56] I'm like I have too many hobbies yeah well that's the thing with this is

[00:47:01] that like he only does this and that just seems insane to me that's see

[00:47:07] that's like something's going on in his noggin that's keeping him from

[00:47:11] like being able to absorb more than just one facet of like fantasy or like

[00:47:17] role-playing you know what I mean yeah he does seem very fixated it's

[00:47:21] specific line D&D which is weird because there's tables off role-playing

[00:47:27] is more than D&D yeah they're D&D is just one system it's the most famous

[00:47:32] system but there are a lot of other choices that like pathfinders also

[00:47:36] big the fate system or even just like in the more role-play systems like

[00:47:41] vampire the masquerade or where there's a Star Wars one that's

[00:47:46] really popular and that's I mean we can also get into the tabletop battle what

[00:47:52] are the battle ones like warhammer and stuff like that like there's even more

[00:47:56] as far as like tabletop games that he could get into than just D&D it is

[00:48:00] strange that it's specifically like D&D trademark because he's D&D mugs

[00:48:06] shirts D&D shows which reminds me of it reminds me of the people that

[00:48:12] enjoy what is Bazinga yeah what is that show called or Taylor we just talked

[00:48:19] about Taylor Swift Swifties like people who make their entire personality

[00:48:22] around Taylor Swift and that's it like I I just don't understand these

[00:48:27] people I don't like I I don't want to say that you're stupid but I think

[00:48:33] it's because you have not a lot of brain cells to rub together that to

[00:48:37] get completely latched onto one thing on one ever like it may it's

[00:48:41] nothing to do with D&D nothing to do with Taylor Swift it's everything to do

[00:48:45] with how obsessive you get with things and I think that this person is

[00:48:50] probably on that in that short bus you know what I mean possibly it makes

[00:48:55] no wonder we watch or at least I listen to D&D podcast and I know you do too

[00:49:02] with Dungeons and Daddies do you listen to the other ones no Dungeons

[00:49:05] and Daddies is the only one and that's the thing is that four other ones yeah I

[00:49:10] listen to Dungeons and Daddies just because I thought that they were funny

[00:49:13] like that was it like I don't really particularly like D&D that much I'll

[00:49:17] play D&D I enjoy it it's like that's the thing is like I love music I go to

[00:49:22] call I'm going to three concerts this week you could say I'm obsessive

[00:49:25] about music but I don't make music my entire personality like it is not

[00:49:30] the only thing I think about I'm not like be lining straight at you know

[00:49:34] Rob Zombie or whatever you know like like it's like I like I like to

[00:49:40] listen to I like to I like to play video games I like to read books I

[00:49:43] listen to audiobooks I listen to video documentaries I like to I like to

[00:49:47] watch like psychological examinations of like criminals you know what I mean

[00:49:51] like cross-examinations I like to do all kinds of shit and I think that that

[00:49:54] might just be because I have insane ADHD so that's why I'm having like

[00:49:58] a complete inability to be able to relate to this husband like it just

[00:50:03] seems like a complete he seems like an alien to me yeah I don't think

[00:50:08] she's an asshole for telling them to basically stuff it like yeah just maybe

[00:50:13] just limited them like say like hey you get one Dungeons and Dragons

[00:50:17] conversation a day out of that I don't hear about it even that just seems

[00:50:22] insane to me like these starts and he's like you know what the halflings

[00:50:27] actually have a plus one to their armor like you already use your one

[00:50:30] today when you told me about goblins in their affinity the water

[00:50:33] or something like I don't hear it you know it's funny is like whenever I do

[00:50:42] know I'm doing something really niche like earlier I was like researching

[00:50:46] iOS like if retro arc was coming to the iOS app store and if it was is

[00:50:52] gonna support 3ds emulation or if that's gonna be relocated to some

[00:50:56] other point and also if retch or no retro is a retro achievements the

[00:51:00] achievements page for fake achievements that's you guys doing this research

[00:51:06] through reddit a red rabbit hole and she has like oh you know honey what are

[00:51:10] you up to I'm like oh man here we go and then I start giving her the you

[00:51:13] know then I give her like the full backstory or whatever and usually like

[00:51:17] 30 seconds in this conversation she's like I don't care anymore like we've

[00:51:21] reached the point where I'm like okay so you know the Nintendo 3ds and

[00:51:25] she's like no is that something after the normal DS and like yes they

[00:51:29] went 3d for a while but that's not what's important and then I have like a

[00:51:34] 10-minute podcast TED talk oh which we both do that and usually at the end

[00:51:38] she would always do that and this has been my TED talk thank you very much

[00:51:41] as because it goes nowhere because usually she's telling me about one of

[00:51:45] the the Sarah Moss boot books there's something like that which I'm also

[00:51:48] listening to you anyways yeah maybe don't put everything on your partner

[00:51:54] whenever you're really into something because like we've said before nobody

[00:51:58] cares about something as much as you do yeah it is not their fault dude I

[00:52:05] promise it's not their fault if you find yourself in that situation just

[00:52:09] know like everyone's got that moment where people are talking to them about

[00:52:12] something you don't give a shit about because everyone's been to school and

[00:52:15] they have a subject they don't fucking care about they've been to

[00:52:18] history or Oklahoma's Oklahoma history can eat my shit dude go government

[00:52:22] glass fuck yourself like I don't I don't want to hear it is shit it

[00:52:26] like it's the same exact feeling but it's like that mean but the opposite

[00:52:31] that mean where it's like I'm failing school because I'm stupid and then it's

[00:52:36] like oh cool a four-hour documentary on amoebas and how they evolved

[00:52:42] you know I mean this is weird because it comes up with Japanese study is

[00:52:47] like I'm a firm believer is like if you're not interested engaged in

[00:52:50] like how you're studying I think you're studying wrong and you should

[00:52:53] probably change it type deal is like some people they cannot do flashcards

[00:52:57] but I can do fucking flashcards all day but eventually I'll get tired of it

[00:53:00] and be like look I don't want to do vocab flashcards anymore now I'm gonna

[00:53:04] do specifically kanji flashcards or colleges in the reading or I'm gonna

[00:53:07] specifically do audio only flashcards associated with I don't know teasing

[00:53:13] master Takagi song or something like that where it's literally like the

[00:53:16] the audio from the show and I'm like translating it listening to it

[00:53:20] while walking my dog like being engaged with what you're learning is

[00:53:25] really important like I think this is a problem with publics we're not gonna

[00:53:29] get okay I'm getting to the public school systems again but yeah do what

[00:53:35] you enjoy but don't force other people into it they probably don't

[00:53:38] enjoy it as much as you yes yeah all right now before your asshole section

[00:53:47] I have my own am I the asshole so what am I the asshole from me to you nave

[00:53:55] because what happened I message you at like I don't know sometime this morning

[00:54:00] I could pull the timestamps but I don't think it's relevant this morning

[00:54:02] I'm like hey Navy alive news so we can do the pod tonight or whatever and

[00:54:05] no reply all day we even talk about the tornadoes that possibly killed you

[00:54:09] yeah you know not to mention we didn't even play our game of the

[00:54:14] week last night because you're like I'm gonna play psycho nuts and I messaged

[00:54:18] him like we playing orcs no reply and I'm like you're like tornadoes you're

[00:54:22] like fine I guess he's he stressed out from tornadoes maybe doesn't want

[00:54:25] to play no big deal I'll let him go today you don't reply and then finally

[00:54:29] you do reply at like three o'clock or something you're like I was asleep

[00:54:32] yeah that's when I woke up and I'm fine I'm like fine messin like

[00:54:35] six o'clock for the pod no reply does it make you feel better if if you

[00:54:40] know that I you were the first person I replied to when I woke up I mean was it

[00:54:45] a reply you just said I was asleep is that what I said yeah I've been

[00:54:49] sleeping like a baby is what I said we've been using the group chat as our

[00:54:54] like personal message chat just regarding everyone else a bit of a

[00:55:02] jerk move keep that bind doors probably but anyways then I'm like

[00:55:05] all right so six no reply question okay so six question mark okay so here's the

[00:55:13] thing whenever you said six for the pod I see there's a question mark there

[00:55:18] now that I'm looking at it but I saw six for the pod and I was like okay

[00:55:22] and then I just sat my phone down I need never look at it will be there

[00:55:26] because I'm not gonna show up and I didn't and whenever six o'clock rolled

[00:55:30] around I have nothing from you I was giving my baby a bath and then you

[00:55:33] just send me a link to the room you're like let's record and I'm like I'm gonna

[00:55:36] need 20 minutes cuz I got a baby in a bathtub yeah and so which was nice

[00:55:41] because I was I wasn't done playing psycho nuts so I was like oh cool I

[00:55:44] get to play a whole nother level I just assumed you went back to sleep

[00:55:46] so am I the asshole for being late after you invited me no I didn't even

[00:55:53] know I was playing psycho nuts dude I was my life are you an asshole for

[00:55:58] fucking not replying because I didn't know you sent me all these

[00:56:03] messages oh my god turn on your notifications or are you trying to

[00:56:06] message you on Xbox where you also do not have your notifications turned on

[00:56:09] well you know what I was hyper fixated just like this guy a play be that's

[00:56:15] me the psycho nuts right now if you give it which asshole do you want I

[00:56:19] hundred number one I doubled you yeah I doubled you it's number 99 now you

[00:56:24] moved it no I did it was a hundred before for the dog one I see it

[00:56:29] oh yeah this was also a little bit long all right so this is timely add 9

[00:56:34] I'm assuming is also burner account yeah but he did some replies to people

[00:56:42] there's a couple of replies in here alright so this is am I the asshole

[00:56:46] for yelling at a lady to get her dog background I am 25 male and have two

[00:56:52] little shit soup puppies that I have recently got in love is that the

[00:56:56] is that like little great no shit see was like do you remember our friend

[00:57:01] Stevens Conan I think his name was oh yeah what was little gray now it was a

[00:57:08] schnauzer okay dog they're like the same sounding alright so that I

[00:57:13] recently got a thing about shit she's like what do you call a zoo or no I

[00:57:18] forgot how when it's like it was oh I went to a zoo the other day and it

[00:57:24] had one animal in it can you believe it it was a shit zoo

[00:57:29] yeah should see the no one's laughing at the way all right both my pups have

[00:57:40] been to dog training class class one done a few more to go I worked in the

[00:57:44] dog shop I gotta make this big I can't read when it's small okay so I

[00:57:48] worked at a dog shop and have a pretty decent understanding on the

[00:57:50] disposition of most breeds fast forward three days in the back three days ago I

[00:57:57] was on a walk with the pups they're on they're on harnesses living their best

[00:58:01] life eventually we got back on the street that I live on walk past a few

[00:58:06] houses and zoom about three houses down a golden retriever bolted out of

[00:58:11] his older lady's garage she's busy with getting something out of her car so

[00:58:15] I yelled out said hey she said I know and just kept doing what she's doing

[00:58:23] like nothing happened now I don't know this dog never interacted with him or

[00:58:26] the owner before so as a precaution I took out my dog pepper sprays sprayed

[00:58:32] it no as a precaution I took my two pups across the street to the other

[00:58:37] sidewalk away from the other dog meanwhile her dog was running through

[00:58:40] the subdivision I mean this dog was booking it running across the street not

[00:58:47] much traffic peeing and pooping and what else with the lady not even

[00:58:51] watching the dog so I see all that happening and just decide to pick up my

[00:58:56] pups and carry them the rest of the way I have to walk in the unfamiliar

[00:59:00] dogs direction to get to my house and my body is more durable than the

[00:59:04] dogs if it comes to that he's talking to about us I'm like he's a D&D

[00:59:09] character I'm zigging and zagging back and forth to avoid this dog where's the

[00:59:14] video game by the way it's coming is coming okay so I'm zigging and zagging

[00:59:19] back and forth to avoid this dog I was trying to look both ways so I don't

[00:59:23] get hit by a car and try to sneak past the dog like I'm playing Skyrim

[00:59:26] okay video games mentioned the little eyeball in the middle of the screen

[00:59:31] eventually the dog sees eventually the dog sees the me and the pups I'm carrying

[00:59:40] and just sprints to us and full sprints to us at this point I've seen

[00:59:45] enough videos of dogs attacking other dogs where I wasn't too comfortable

[00:59:48] with the situation even if it is a golden I yelled since she couldn't even

[00:59:53] see me or a dog and said nothing so I say it again while trying to slowly

[01:00:01] back away from the dog I don't know this dog I don't know you I don't want

[01:00:06] him near me or my dogs at this point it's a few feet from me pups in my

[01:00:10] arms and the unknown dog is moving in so this time I yell get your dog still

[01:00:16] nothing well I'm gonna get it I should stop screaming those I'm gonna

[01:00:20] get the cops calling me while getting more uncomfortable I'm still slowly

[01:00:25] moving away from my house's direction since the dogs in my path I yell

[01:00:29] lady get your dog still nothing then get your fucking dog my little dog

[01:00:34] starts barking to protect me at this point and that man barely ever even

[01:00:39] that man barely ever barks and topped it all off with a lady get your

[01:00:44] fucking dog away from me I love how good it was writing and then he's

[01:00:51] getting he's getting emotional he's fucking all his grammars all fucked

[01:00:53] up she took the hint fine and finally came back from her house looked at

[01:00:58] me like I was an asshole so yeah I'm I the asshole formatting hard on mobile

[01:01:02] please forgive slash on a third way all right so reddit has pre agreed that

[01:01:08] this guy is not the asshole because he I guess he could have been the

[01:01:12] asshole for yelling at an old lady and telling the old lady to get her

[01:01:18] dog is he an asshole for commanding this old lady around uh this is weird

[01:01:27] the way he's describing it the dog doesn't seem very hostile the dog is

[01:01:31] hostile you know that you'll know right away if a dog is about to be violent to

[01:01:37] you did the dog ever get to him is that the whole thing oh yeah I think so

[01:01:42] the dog says it ran straight at him it's a few feet away from him he's

[01:01:49] dreaming and then he's just coming is that we just got it next to him

[01:01:53] probably trying to sniff him and stuff I feel like this guy's kind of uptight

[01:01:59] yeah I mean based on his dog selection to shit soup puppies yeah well he's

[01:02:06] probably just super crazy uptight that he doesn't understand he's like I've

[01:02:09] seen a lot of it videos of dogs attack the other dogs I mean like

[01:02:13] yeah sometimes the dog walks up to the other dogs kind of calm and then

[01:02:17] gets aggressive but I don't know how often that's a golden retriever or

[01:02:21] even a shit suit I think really just depends on how his dogs would have

[01:02:25] reacted to that dog then again if this lady lets the dog run around the dog

[01:02:30] likely isn't very hostile I mean people who have hostile dogs usually

[01:02:34] have them chained up pretty good you know they usually know and I'm a

[01:02:38] mailman so I see lots of dogs running around like all the time a lot often

[01:02:43] yeah rip off the back of your pants so they can see your underwear at least

[01:02:47] twice a month it's unfortunate I go through a lot of pants the the dogs

[01:02:52] have like a very specific like they have a very specific way that they

[01:03:00] approach something that they're being hostile towards and I imagine that if he

[01:03:04] got to yell like 27 times before the dog yeah then I don't think the dog

[01:03:10] was that aggressive I think this guy was just freaking out over nothing

[01:03:13] probably then again if you're doing about your dog on a leash she wait she

[01:03:19] wasn't even she wasn't walking her dog or anything the dog just wanted out

[01:03:22] groceries or something to the dog ran out yeah so I mean I don't know you

[01:03:29] shouldn't because things can happen it's like not even that your dog

[01:03:32] could attack another dog your dog could get hit by a car or something you

[01:03:34] should be careful but I don't think I think this guy's I don't think this

[01:03:39] guy's an asshole but he's a fucking weirdo probably no this might be a self

[01:03:45] report on me but I have a husky in Texas San Antonio I know it's not a great

[01:03:50] move but we're about to move to Alaska so it's not it's not gonna be a

[01:03:53] problem anymore but our backyard the on base housing our fences aren't

[01:03:58] privacy fences or anything they're like three feet tall fences pretty

[01:04:02] much well they're more than that it's like sub nipple height I don't

[01:04:06] describe that height whatever like four feet maybe anyways my husky can easily

[01:04:12] clear the fence not even not even thinking about it just does a front flip

[01:04:16] and flies over the fence doesn't even touch it just just can clear it in a

[01:04:20] single bound and she knows this and there's literally nothing I can do

[01:04:25] short of just holding her on leash every time we go in the backyard

[01:04:29] that she can just jump the fence and this leads to her jumping the fence

[01:04:34] every single day of my life every single day we'll be out there just fine

[01:04:38] now I gotta be like Indy don't jump the fence and she's like oh crud okay

[01:04:41] I won't and then she's like chills we're fine then I'm like oh I'm gonna

[01:04:45] go inside real quick to grab Arthur's water because Arthur's out

[01:04:47] here playing with a hose or something like that and I'll like walk over to

[01:04:51] the door in the second my back stern the dog is like this flies over the

[01:04:54] fence and I'm like oh great I cannot catch this dog like I am the old lady

[01:05:00] in this situation with a fast how did he describe it living that I'm not living

[01:05:06] their best life oh it's like my dog books it my husky is fast like there's

[01:05:11] no way for me to catch this dog usually takes me in fact I never catch

[01:05:16] her usually it's like I stand outside my front yard at that point once I

[01:05:20] know it's out there and I just stand there watch it booking it around the

[01:05:23] neighborhood for about 15 minutes and then it walks back to me and we go

[01:05:27] inside together there's nothing I can do sometimes there will be walking their

[01:05:32] dogs and my dogs real friendly she'll run over and try and play with them and

[01:05:35] stuff like that and usually that's the only time I can actually catch her

[01:05:39] is if she's trying to play with another dog I just walk up and grab her

[01:05:43] well that's how my dog is I mean I live in an apartment Molly is an

[01:05:47] escape artist she will she will break her back trying to get outside of the

[01:05:54] so she's afraid of me like she knows I will just kick her like she knows there

[01:05:59] is a danger of pain like if she tries to run past me but everyone no one else

[01:06:03] will no one of course because I'd be probably said they kicked my dog

[01:06:07] actually if she's trying to get out and they kick my dog I'm like as long

[01:06:10] as they don't fucking football punter as long as they're just trying

[01:06:13] to keep her like yeah would you like it's fine you're not saying you

[01:06:16] just kick her some I'm you're saying that if she's running for the

[01:06:18] door you will like use your leg to block her yes I will very fast

[01:06:23] I will pin her against the wall like I will do whatever I need to to keep her

[01:06:27] from coming out so like police on Dave well this is the thing right I've also

[01:06:32] trained her that as long as she's not having like an anxiety attack okay I

[01:06:35] can get her to sit and eat a treat and then I can leave usually that's

[01:06:39] the tax but sometimes if I'm not being attention she'll slip by me and

[01:06:42] I can't catch her either but my thing is is that she has insane

[01:06:48] separation anxiety and she goes abandoned as a puppy it had something

[01:06:52] to do with the car and I use that to my advantage because if I go get my car

[01:06:56] keys walk to my car open the door up and turn the car on she will freak out and

[01:07:01] come to me no matter where she's at like she will hear my car start and

[01:07:04] then run over there and jump into my car like we're about to go to the

[01:07:07] park or something and then I just snatch her ass up

[01:07:12] yeah it's cuz so you said you can catch her she runs up to other dogs

[01:07:17] I can't do that because she will stand in a way that she'll see where

[01:07:21] I'm coming from and as soon as I get close she bolts away no matter how much

[01:07:24] fun she's having she'll bolt away and just because she loves being chased like

[01:07:30] that's her fucking favorite thing in the world she loves when we play ball

[01:07:34] we don't play fetch we we play I throw the ball once and now I have to

[01:07:38] chase her there's no there's no me getting the ball back and so I don't

[01:07:44] know I understand like what how but it seems like the old lady just

[01:07:48] walked up and got her dog like in the end yeah I don't know I don't think he's

[01:07:55] an asshole but he's a danger you know yeah well he's not an asshole for

[01:07:59] calling out this old lady but he definitely seems to be going a bit

[01:08:02] overboard yeah cuz you can get pedantic with this stuff like so

[01:08:06] here's a there's leash laws and all that stuff I saw this video online

[01:08:10] where it was this male lady she has a bunch of treats in her truck and the

[01:08:15] dogs will run up to her and she'll give them the treats and stuff and I'm like

[01:08:18] okay this is cute but you are training the dogs to run up to your truck and

[01:08:25] the dogs don't understand how trucks work and the dogs don't understand like

[01:08:28] so if somebody else like so say you take a day off and then someone else

[01:08:33] is running your route they don't know that those dogs get treats and

[01:08:36] so they're gonna drive and then the dogs gonna run up to the truck worst

[01:08:40] case scenario dog runs up to the truck while you're not paying attention

[01:08:43] and you run over the dog worst that's my worst fucking fear is I run over

[01:08:47] someone's dog so it's like you got to be careful with training dogs like

[01:08:54] that you've got to be careful with dogs that aren't are just running loose

[01:08:57] like that not that you've got to be afraid of getting bit with dogs in

[01:09:01] general like any interaction with a dog that isn't yours is potential danger

[01:09:05] yeah like okay this is the other day me and Jana were walking and there's

[01:09:11] this huge beautiful German Shepherd and it was right by its fence or whatever

[01:09:16] and Jana reached over the fence to pet the dog super nice dog lady comes out

[01:09:22] and like please don't pet my dog and yells at us and okay we just kept

[01:09:26] walking so it's like the dog is fine like I give the worst strangers

[01:09:33] petting your dog or whatever but also it's like I know you have a fence

[01:09:38] right next to the sidewalk on base housing and you have a nice dog I don't

[01:09:44] know it's weird it's like I get where she's coming from but if I saw people

[01:09:48] reaching over my fence petting my dog I don't think I'm gonna run out there

[01:09:52] and be like yelling at them you would be looking like with a question

[01:09:57] mark above your head like but if I saw mailman feeding strange things to

[01:10:02] my dog then I would have a bit of a qualm I'd be like what are you

[01:10:06] feeding my dog well it's like what would we what do you think we would be

[01:10:10] feeding your dog I don't know you know history of going kind of postal like I

[01:10:15] always thought like if I'm ever gonna go postal work I'm just something like

[01:10:19] that I don't think you should say those thoughts into a recorded device

[01:10:26] these are out these are drinking beers are on the fire thoughts talking

[01:10:31] into a recorded device I would not I have a happy life and I'm not going

[01:10:35] postal anyways what was the other one I'm going back I remember what book was

[01:10:42] it there's a book I don't know it's like where the red hair night or something

[01:10:46] like that no is one of the dog books that you read growing up where

[01:10:52] specifically they had like like a coyote problem on the farm and so they

[01:10:58] were putting out poison ground beef and meanwhile the boy has his dog

[01:11:02] like yo my dog is just gonna eat this ground beef and die so he had to train

[01:11:06] his dog not to eat random ground beef specifically by putting the jalapenos and

[01:11:12] ground beef and like literal it's literal be on the ground on the

[01:11:16] ground yeah but he put jalapenos in it and then fed him ground beef with

[01:11:21] jalapenos and the dog of course reacted poorly to the jalapenos but

[01:11:26] it's something for me in the poison which uh don't poison people's dogs

[01:11:31] whoever needs to hear that I don't think anyone was so yeah I don't I don't think

[01:11:41] he's an asshole for yelling at the old lady but also maybe help the old

[01:11:45] lady out like how hard would be just to grab the dog by the collar and lead

[01:11:49] her back to him like I was you like the amount of time stop my car to

[01:11:53] rescue a stray dog as number in the 50s at this point they don't even need

[01:11:59] to grab their collar like whenever it's so what most commonly happens to me on

[01:12:04] my routes is someone will answer the door for a package dog comes out sniffs

[01:12:09] on me and stuff and everyone's like everyone's always like oh it's a cool

[01:12:12] dog it won't bite you and I'm like yeah I can usually tell when a dog is

[01:12:15] gonna bite me like I can usually tell a dog is angry at me if I should be

[01:12:19] worried about it but um dog so usually what happens is they'll be

[01:12:23] signing the thing I'm like all right cool bye bye and I'll start walking

[01:12:25] off and they just follow me you know what I mean and I'm like oh I'll turn

[01:12:29] around dog is still with me and I'm like oh I'll just walk back to the porch

[01:12:34] now so that the fuck will follow me back to the porch because usually

[01:12:37] what's going on is the dog smells my dog and the dogs like what the hell

[01:12:40] try to get all the information for the file he's gonna need to know this

[01:12:44] oh dude it's so annoying with my dog now that she knows that she jumps

[01:12:48] the fence she tries really hard not to use the bathroom in the backyard

[01:12:53] so I almost have to take her on a walk to make her poop or anything because

[01:12:58] you won't poop in the yard or pee in the yard instead she wants to jump the

[01:13:01] fence and then poop in the alley behind our house that's the fucking

[01:13:04] thing is that like my dog won't eat her dog food because I feed her so I

[01:13:09] give her scraps so often so she doesn't eat her dog food unless I'm

[01:13:12] not home and that's the only time she'll eat dog food because she

[01:13:15] knows she can't get scraps because I'm not around yeah you're the scrap guy

[01:13:18] really annoying because she will so sometimes I'll be eating my food and

[01:13:24] like I'll she'll go and eat a little bit of dog food and she'll be like

[01:13:28] look I'm hungry like she does I'm so hungry she's so pathetic please master

[01:13:36] papa hunger chicken nugget please I could smell them all right yeah anything

[01:13:44] more in this asshole no be careful with your with your stuff the world is

[01:13:49] a dangerous place it is oh it also like there's like barely any traffic on

[01:13:53] my street so it's usually like a middle of the day where there's just

[01:13:56] no one around I'm just standing there watching my dog run laps it gets it's

[01:14:00] so tired of it she's so angry just come inside and with that let's take

[01:14:06] a quick break and then we can come back with our game of the week

[01:14:08] music plays I'm so tired the world is hard the world is hard and we're back

[01:14:21] orcs must die 3 slice burn toss zap grind and give massive hordes a

[01:14:27] repugnant orcs and his long-awaited successor to the award-winning orcs

[01:14:32] must die series very positive reviews released July 23 2021 from robot

[01:14:38] entertainment it was famous for the orcs must die series high five pretty much

[01:14:46] we played five hours of this together I think just about and history with a

[01:14:53] series this is one of the first games I ever got on steam was orcs must die

[01:14:57] one and I think I got a part of like a humble bundle or something like that

[01:15:01] and it's good it's some good stuff I believe this back in the day there's

[01:15:09] this game called dungeon defenders which was just this but better and the when

[01:15:15] the first orcs must I came out I played this just because I needed I wanted more

[01:15:19] dungeon defenders as kind of gameplay because like tower defense games

[01:15:22] existed but this is a tower defense game where you're actually in the map

[01:15:26] running around shooting and stuff too so that was a pretty novel idea at

[01:15:29] the time with this and with dungeon defenders and so they both play like

[01:15:35] differently dungeon defenders is a lot more about you leveling up your

[01:15:39] character like an RPG where in this game you are just unlocking more traps

[01:15:44] and making the traps better I think I can't remember done door I can't

[01:15:50] remember dungeon defenders very well yeah oh actually I also own the second

[01:15:54] one but I only have an hour in it on steam so I guess I didn't play

[01:15:57] much of it but I have like eight hours in the first one so getting

[01:16:04] right into it this game is about placing traps also this is the first

[01:16:08] game for the pod that I was playing in Japanese while you were playing in

[01:16:11] normal English and the only thing to note from that is that this game is

[01:16:16] full Japanese dialogue but the names of everything is just English as it's

[01:16:25] just converted over to katakana which is just the English word with ooh at

[01:16:30] the end it is oh man I also played like I even converted my halo over the

[01:16:35] Japanese to whatever and you know a king of the hill is in halo in Japanese or

[01:16:40] whatever is it king of the hill yes instead of not it's so it's like King

[01:16:47] of the Hill times you know like god they can come with anything better but

[01:16:54] it's literally just King of the Hill with the Japanese accent so good so

[01:16:58] well that's the problem is that it's it's not it's it's capital K king

[01:17:03] of the capital H hill it's proper this is the proper name unfortunately they

[01:17:08] couldn't just say like which also tactical Slayer is still tactical

[01:17:15] Slayer in halo even in Japanese it's all like I'm trying to think like if

[01:17:21] they have SWAT like now they don't it's tactical Slayer but anyways so it

[01:17:26] definitely is not a it's localized for Japanese but basically only the

[01:17:31] cutscenes the rest of the game is just English converted into Kana so if you

[01:17:38] can read English or Recon and then and you know English then you can play

[01:17:41] this game in Japanese I guess if you'd want to all right now get into

[01:17:46] the traps well actually let's just get into how the game felt maybe this

[01:17:52] game felt fun to play oddly enough it was it was refreshing what was the

[01:17:57] game we played last week the quarry is that what it was I thought we played a

[01:18:03] different game I don't even know what games we played this year

[01:18:06] oh let me look I don't know either all right yeah we played to see to the

[01:18:10] core that's might Star Wars Battlefront it was it was the deceit to

[01:18:16] game like whenever it was the the the what is it the complete like

[01:18:22] comparing the two games yeah I'm juggling the it's the comparison

[01:18:27] between the two games like the contrast you know what I mean yes it's like where

[01:18:31] the older me the the the deceit game is definitely like a very indie title

[01:18:37] like as you move around you're like oh yeah I feel it I feel the jank but

[01:18:41] then you play this game it's very smooth it's literally just the same as

[01:18:44] the other two games so it's just iterative like they are just more

[01:18:48] policy game better polishing it more yeah there's less chaff everything is

[01:18:53] very streamlined like you know like it's like this and you're like okay and

[01:18:58] then you just do that for the rest of the time right yeah which getting into

[01:19:04] some of the traps first thing is as far as like cooperative multiplayer you

[01:19:09] can kind of skill your traps in different ways like I you get like

[01:19:16] skulls when you complete levels and I put all my points into like the wall

[01:19:19] spikes whereas you put all your points into barricades and the slowing tar yeah

[01:19:24] so we were able to like min max at lower levels and I gotta say I tried

[01:19:30] playing this game without you and it is a lot of harder by yourself is it

[01:19:34] yeah especially without min max traps I think I think that was probably one

[01:19:40] of the best things about this game that we were able to like stylize our

[01:19:43] play styles in a way that like we could really specialize so like I was

[01:19:50] being very supportive and I was mostly paying attention to how the room was

[01:19:54] positioned and seeing if I could make choke points with those barricades or

[01:19:59] maybe cut off an entire path to force another path into like to make one big

[01:20:04] path rather than like four small paths and like just try and force a

[01:20:08] funnel everything but meanwhile you're watching me do that and going oh

[01:20:12] there's a big-ass choke point over here I could put a bunch of archers

[01:20:15] on this hill and then like now since Naves funneling them all this way all

[01:20:19] those archers just gonna rain hell down on them in that spot yeah which I guess

[01:20:24] we clarify like this is a tower defense the whole premises orcs are marching

[01:20:27] towards your nexus and you got to make sure they don't make it there that's

[01:20:31] the whole game or coos oh god and that's the other thing is like the

[01:20:38] work archer show up in the characters like or cool art shrew are true I

[01:20:46] don't think that's the word for archer but in this game it is I don't

[01:20:50] know the actual word for it sure though but there's a there's a congee for it

[01:20:53] anyways back to it Nave you and your barricades were imperative to our

[01:20:59] victory strategies like yeah we would not win without your labyrinth you

[01:21:04] create which we can't highlight we had several money pools which this was

[01:21:09] the issue when we played dungeons 3 was that we completely shared all

[01:21:13] resources and we could each spend money independently so it was like

[01:21:18] there was no point in any of us not you know just any money when we had it or

[01:21:23] whatever whereas this one like we each had to be careful about what we were

[01:21:26] spending if you spend all your money on barricades then I needed to make

[01:21:30] sure I'm spending my money on traps or we needed to make sure we were

[01:21:34] mixing matching because you had the upgraded barricades that took up two

[01:21:37] spaces whereas I had the single barricades that were cheaper but

[01:21:41] smaller they only take up one space so we were able like mix and match to

[01:21:46] make like optimal pathing and strategies yeah and that was some of the

[01:21:51] missions that we would do especially that there's this one huge open area

[01:21:56] that we had to funnel them all to the left side and it's like I found

[01:22:00] them all to the left side and I was like how were we supposed to do this

[01:22:03] if not this way like I don't I can't possibly imagine any other way other

[01:22:08] than funneling everyone into one big area and then killing them in like a

[01:22:11] they had I had it like a zigzag pattern that they were running through

[01:22:15] with like a tar pit in each like area it's like I don't know how this is

[01:22:19] possible any other way which those kill lanes open us up to use our little

[01:22:26] little weapons and I just use the shotgun every time because the

[01:22:29] shotgun is just good did you use any other weapons no I use the

[01:22:34] shotgun also and like I had the ice grenades as the secondary fire which

[01:22:39] that's so good being able to just make the enemy wave just stop it's

[01:22:45] great like I don't know the I don't even know what the other guns do but I

[01:22:48] assume it's not as good as I was using is I was using big explosion which

[01:22:54] knocks them all around and stuff and then makes them fly over our barriers

[01:22:57] and they sneak past us which that's the worst ones like one little guy

[01:23:00] we get past us and we wouldn't get the perfect score because you get the

[01:23:03] perfect score you get five upgraded skulls whereas if you get let one

[01:23:07] guy get past you the most you can get on a level is four and I was

[01:23:12] pretty annoying yeah and sometimes so we were using this I think what it

[01:23:17] happened once where you are always using the ceiling things that pulled

[01:23:20] them up and sometimes ever sometimes the momentum of them being pulled up

[01:23:25] would shoot them past a barricade and we wouldn't never notice it because

[01:23:29] we because no one else was ever getting past that barricade so it was

[01:23:33] like fucking annoying yeah which we go back and talk about the big battle

[01:23:38] maps they have like the previous games everything was in a dungeon and

[01:23:43] you had to defend the Nexus points and now they have like huge looks like

[01:23:48] Lord of the Rings style maps with a massive amounts of orcs on screen like

[01:23:53] I guess it's supposed to be like now that next-gen hardware is there

[01:23:56] they can actually do this with huge armies and it feels like a massive

[01:24:01] tower defense thing like this might be like the largest as far as we're

[01:24:06] like triple A's like this would be a triple A tower defense game if that

[01:24:09] that's a thing that exists you know I'd say I'd say this game is probably

[01:24:12] closer to double A but it's really cool seeing such a big map and being

[01:24:17] able to set up a huge amount of traps and everything going on like it's

[01:24:22] impressive because like I do not think you could do something like this on

[01:24:25] 360 or if you did it would be how was it warriors type games would be

[01:24:30] like the closest yeah and even though it's like you it's literally

[01:24:34] the same character model whereas like this there's lots of different character

[01:24:37] models all doing different things I think it's impressive what they're able

[01:24:40] to pull off on here yeah I think so too and we only played the first

[01:24:44] campaign I don't know how much it changes throughout the other ones and I

[01:24:48] don't I don't know if those are because I it says the main campaign

[01:24:51] that's the achievement for beating that first one so I was like okay I

[01:24:54] think the other ones were like just expansions or something because I

[01:24:57] think this game's been out for a long time yeah it's been over like

[01:25:00] Besides that I didn't have time to really plan out a whole bunch of notes

[01:25:05] for this one do you have any more me points that you got brewing oh I really

[01:25:10] talk about is like the humor in this game because this game is kind of

[01:25:12] funny but we talked about specifically it is funnier than Dungeons 3 which

[01:25:17] tries really hard to be funny but we couldn't figure out what exactly

[01:25:21] made this one better I think it's just the writing the writing is better and

[01:25:26] the delivery is better like everything is just better better than Dungeons 3

[01:25:31] yeah because like Dungeons 3 I don't know I guess they're just like foreign

[01:25:37] maybe you think maybe they're foreign and they just don't understand

[01:25:40] American humor so they're just like trying to make American humor but it's

[01:25:44] not it's just not working out whereas these guys seem to understand

[01:25:47] what makes things funny a little bit more this game just has a better sense

[01:25:53] of humor yeah there's not that many cutscenes so I mean it's like you're

[01:25:57] never really seeing any of that meanwhile in Dungeons 3 they're talking

[01:26:02] non-stop they're always talking so you're always hearing the bad writing

[01:26:06] which makes it feel worse I do appreciate the in-game dialogue in

[01:26:12] Japanese though because we played as the girl we were both a girl

[01:26:16] character which is funny cuz I could hear your voice lines when they

[01:26:18] talked as well you were just like slightly quieter when you're far away

[01:26:22] from me and when your character like blows people and stuff she's like bye

[01:26:25] bye and I'm like that's silly but when you get hit she makes the most anime

[01:26:31] screaming sound effects ever like the classic Japanese that sounds like sex

[01:26:35] noises pretty much and like God every time we get hit by an orc

[01:26:38] archer yeah I was not listening to this game really I was just listening

[01:26:43] to music the whole time we played I mean this is a great podcast game

[01:26:45] because I tried to play some of the day and I just put on a podcast

[01:26:48] while I was playing it and I got my ass kicked I was in one of the big battle

[01:26:53] maps and it did not go well seems like battle maps are cool because they give

[01:26:58] you a bunch of extra money yeah you're like 10,000 monies which is a lot you

[01:27:02] can buy a lot of traps a lot of barricades but they do more and more to

[01:27:06] stop the barricade issue for instance one enemy that I don't think

[01:27:10] you saw was there's a fire elemental that whenever he dies he

[01:27:13] splits into three smaller fire elementals that are fast and when they

[01:27:17] die they explode doing damage to your barricades so that was another thing

[01:27:22] that I had to deal with at one point it probably makes it a lot more simple to

[01:27:26] have like two people running around then and oh yeah I think it's a

[01:27:29] having another person to be able to just because you put out a lot of

[01:27:32] damage with your shotgun just shooting into the crowd it's like

[01:27:35] left for dead you just firing into the horde or war Z so having to be

[01:27:40] able makes us all better is this only to co-op player max I think so

[01:27:44] but I never like actually let me see hold on this is saying apparently on

[01:27:50] pre-launch or whatever they said they would try to they were targeting four

[01:27:57] players but they couldn't scale it correctly with like they'd have to

[01:28:01] rescale the level so they stuck with two player co-op from the developers

[01:28:04] and everyone's like why don't you just add more a steam workshop and

[01:28:09] allow people to create maps targeting four players like that would be

[01:28:13] interesting because there is a steam workshop for the second game but not

[01:28:16] for the third game it's not yet probably complicated it probably is

[01:28:21] especially just adding another player into the mix whatever I don't know also

[01:28:26] I don't know how much better this game would be with more players unless

[01:28:31] the maps were just way more complex yeah because dungeon defenders was

[01:28:34] four players I mean they do well well so the thing about dungeon

[01:28:39] defenders is that each there were four classes and each cal class had

[01:28:42] their own type of turret so what it was it was like if you were the knight

[01:28:46] you can't use the mage or the archer or the monks turrets right so it's like

[01:28:51] if you had four people you could like diversify the defense as well really

[01:28:56] what happened it was like same thing yeah we would just do like split

[01:28:59] screen and just play by yourself with two controllers oh my god this guy

[01:29:03] gotta get them achievements all right I see you found the steam review

[01:29:08] were there any other good steam reviews no most of them were just game good

[01:29:12] there was one that just said orc that was pretty funny I mean the orcs are

[01:29:16] funny you want to read this team review it says it's from CB who

[01:29:20] recommends the game and says this is the fourth game and I'm using the

[01:29:23] same three trap combo what do you think the traps or I don't know like

[01:29:28] probably the wall trap barricade and those the walls like the barricade

[01:29:35] the spot spot tarp it yeah I mean that's so good it's the best combo it works

[01:29:39] just bear a little make a walk walk in a straight line in front of the arrows

[01:29:44] yeah and those arrows pierce targets too so they hit everyone that's it I

[01:29:50] don't think I have any more me points and I'm really see a point dragging

[01:29:52] this out unless you got something no all right let's go to the final words

[01:29:57] let's say quick break final words boom boom boom orcs must die three naeve

[01:30:04] it is refreshing whenever we can play a game because I feel like a lot of times

[01:30:08] we come in here we have a lot to say usually complaining about me I wish they

[01:30:13] did this or you know I feel like we're often negative about nitpicking issues

[01:30:18] things I didn't like on the pod or maybe I just noticed the negatives more

[01:30:22] but coming in here I just don't have anything really negative to say about

[01:30:28] this game it seems quality made we had one connection issue through our

[01:30:34] whole playthrough where I disconnected and we had to restart a level which

[01:30:37] sucked or you disconnected I don't remember but that sucked but besides

[01:30:42] that we had a perfect playthrough like it's not even like perfect like we

[01:30:47] never failed because we would lose units and we even restarted levels it

[01:30:51] didn't feel bad to restart but we restarted levels so we get perfect

[01:30:55] scores it was almost like overcooked where we saw the mechanics of the

[01:31:00] game we knew what we needed to do and then we said to execute them and

[01:31:03] we were having fun while you're doing it it was a good time and even when we did

[01:31:07] restart a level we usually we weren't upset we were talking amongst ourselves

[01:31:11] going okay I think we could have did this I think like that's how you know

[01:31:15] that you're actually playing a game that like implements the strategies good

[01:31:19] is when you're discussing what you could have done rather than why you

[01:31:22] lost and like blaming the game itself yeah so I'm 100% recommend this game

[01:31:28] it's on game pass like you and a friend go play this game and you will

[01:31:31] have a good time if you enjoy this genre I don't think everyone enjoys this

[01:31:35] genre which may be the the one sticky point because this does take a certain

[01:31:39] type of gamer that's willing to deal with the arbitrary pathing of the AI

[01:31:45] and trap placement it's like oh why can't I place a trap here it's not

[01:31:49] on the grid type steel like stuff or whatever like yeah but this game it's

[01:31:53] it's so good I'm gonna keep it in some I'm really gonna finish it out

[01:31:57] on my own because I think only have like two or three more levels we

[01:32:00] really close to the end this game is good I recommend it in Japanese or

[01:32:05] English go play it yeah I agree it's also a hearty recommend for me I love

[01:32:11] tower defense games so I was happy to see this on game bus you see it's

[01:32:15] weird because like we don't usually play games together for fun as it

[01:32:20] turns out yeah we played we play games together for for content for the

[01:32:25] pod like hey man we I want to play this game because like I'll even put

[01:32:29] games that I don't really care about playing that much like Hot Wheels badass

[01:32:34] or whatever that title is like I don't particularly want to play that game but

[01:32:39] I think it could be interesting for the pod or whatever and so I would force

[01:32:43] you to play this game with me for hours and neither of us are really

[01:32:46] having that great of a time or even the quarry there was a lot of times

[01:32:50] when I wanted to stop playing the quarry we were playing it I'm glad we

[01:32:54] finished it but that was a it was a tough play for us in this game

[01:32:59] just sat there the whole time it was hard existing it's hard for me to exist

[01:33:04] through that but be able to play this game it's like there's so many days

[01:33:08] when I just like you want to play Halo infinite you know they just put

[01:33:12] out a new map we can just go play that and talk about the map like you

[01:33:15] want to play something for fun which I guess we could but we're always

[01:33:20] still in there at all yeah but man it felt so good to play this game

[01:33:26] just to reiterate yeah this is one of those just solid fun romps and with that

[01:33:33] nave what solid romper we do next time the Hot Wheels bullshit game yeah I

[01:33:39] don't know I don't have what I don't have a Orks must die 3 to pull out of

[01:33:42] my ass this time yeah I mean I think the games that came to game

[01:33:46] bass this last two weeks or I've been shit probably when you pulled out

[01:33:49] or is must I three elastic I was like oh man that sounds so good I'm

[01:33:53] so excited finally some good fucking food yeah finally I don't know let's

[01:33:59] look at gamecast because I thought something just dropped what is that

[01:34:03] game what was that dwarves game Oh deep space galactic rock rock

[01:34:09] galactic galactic yeah that might be good yeah we the reason why we didn't

[01:34:15] do that in January was because we January was full of first-person

[01:34:19] shooters so I was like I was trying to distance from first person shooters for

[01:34:23] a minute but we haven't played one of those yeah let's see that one that

[01:34:25] sounds like it that could be another fun game I'm hoping it can be like a

[01:34:27] vermin tide situation yeah I have no idea what it is I just heard the from

[01:34:31] Aaron it's like Aaron was like this is good and I was like okay well he

[01:34:34] recommended Robo quest and that one was good so yeah maybe I'll even guess

[01:34:39] on that one oh and little Gator game also came to game passing that

[01:34:42] game looks good I think God I play the frog detective games no oh that could be

[01:34:50] a fun streaming game because it is a it's like an adventure game kind of

[01:34:55] like the telltale games except what if the the threat level was zero in

[01:35:01] your your frog detective going around solving crimes but the crimes are

[01:35:06] not dangerous you just talk to people all right and thanks for joining us this

[01:35:13] week co-op partners maybe next time we can all look out for or koo's together

[01:35:17] goodbye