Episode 141: World War Z - Pioneers of Misogyny

[00:00:00] That show is about a doctor of autism

[00:00:09] No, I didn't I

[00:00:12] Tied in the good doctor. You're a terrorist and then click the first one. I didn't mean

[00:00:23] Tell you really uncomfortable big Neon Genesis Evangelion. What is always happens? Evangeline. Yeah. Evangeline. Flemie to the moon. Foo Fighters. Foo Fighters. So stupid.

[00:01:40] Holy shit, dude.

[00:01:41] Hello and welcome to Gaming Together, a cooperative podcast.

[00:01:45] I'm your host Philip and I'm here yeah yeah I'm based on the heartbreak I'm here all the heartbreak. We are a video game podcast and we're gonna be talking about World War Z but before we get there let's just check in with what games we've been playing. Naive what have you been playing? Well I'm still playing infinite wealth of course it's gonna take me about a month and I

[00:03:01] have to get through. Um I'm on episode I'm never finishing this. I'm never finishing this. Any of the ads or anything like that. They never said like by the way you get to go back to Japan because all the ads are just super Hawaii themed. Yeah, it was like a month after the game came out. So I mean, this isn't like a gigantic spoiler. I'm not telling you why they go to Japan, but I mean, like, it's really cool. And so I've also seen some

[00:04:21] people like have the same criticism, not like a criticism, or like Animal Crossing? I'm playing it like a schizophrenic ADHD hat at all. Like I am doing every, like I literally walk three inches. There's, I go, oh, there's a thing over there. And I go and do the thing. And I go three more inches and there's, oh, there's another thing over there. And I slowly am making my way to the objective marker.

[00:05:42] But then I'm like, oh, but I could do a drink link right now

[00:05:44] because I've bonded with Chee Chan so much.

[00:05:47] So I'm just gonna go take a taxi back show reminiscing and shit. It's really cool. You're free to tell me if feel free to tell me to fuck off of the spoils anything, but like you have the same parking members in a an infinite wealth. You still have a dachi and all that. Well, actually, I won't believe it because it's on you do. It is it's on the the art of the game. You see them. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay.

[00:07:02] But they do the way they get introduced and the way and the way things

[00:07:05] intermingle that is like its own my friends were like hey, we're gonna buy a bunch of whiskey We're gonna show up at your house of party, and I was like sick I'm not gonna play like a dragon because they can show up at any moment And it might be in the middle of a two-hour long cutscene and they're gonna get really upset about that And then I'm gonna get upset that they're talking during the cutscene, so I'm just not gonna do that I'm gonna play whatever this garbage game film is playing. It's probably gonna be terrible

[00:08:22] I was expecting it to be like the turnip boy games, but it's an item that he has like a 25% chance to like do all his luck in Damn one burst or whatever like damage wise to a random enemy fuck every time he picks up a resource off the ground so it's like as you increase your luck and just scales exponentially where you have like a a

[00:09:46] 500 damage attack that can kill anything of one hit, but times twenty a long time it's just math oh my god but then it's like of course I can do a run then I got a pause to go get Arthur because that's the point ran into the other room so I stop every round for at least a minute exactly when I started

[00:11:00] when I played it after the second wave I mean after the second game I played I

[00:11:03] was like I could see exactly why Phillips been playing this because it is a drink it that's like, hey, this gives you a power every time you end a wave. And I guess you like one power. And but sometimes you'll get like two or three of those by wave 10 and I'm just like, holy fuck, I'm crazy. But then you'll die in wave like 15 because you're all your weapons are shitty because you haven't been, you've been saving up for those. It's like, oh yeah, it's like that. Or it's like you're finally doing so good.

[00:12:21] And then you realize you've been sacrificing

[00:12:23] too much movement speed and they just swarm.

[00:12:25] Yeah.

[00:12:26] That was one that I had. Well, a lot of it is choosing like what you want to sacrifice as you're building because pretty much everything is good to grab But everything has a negative as well And so you're like picking dump stats where it's like oh, I don't need Engineering to place turrets because I'm not placing turrets so you can always like dump that one or whatever It sounds to me that you guys don't really like this game or something. I'll do this game is a

[00:13:43] Time suck and a drain in the achievements or bullshit and this route would suck because going back behind this building you have to dismount every time This is clearly a rural route right because like this place is a fucking wilderness Like that whole time. I was just critiquing it. I was like I would I would love to see the nave review of this game Like you know what visuals pretty good, but like nothing was realistic enough

[00:15:01] Yeah, no milk milk trucks too old this fucking bit. It's just the wealth besides the DLC stuff. I'll probably save that for another time. Because I'm already like, I'm already like 89 hours into the game now. I totally came out two weeks ago. So I'm way too fucking deep. I mean, every time I see you on Discord, it's like playing infinite wealth, like all the time. It's a lifestyle. I mean, I'm trying to get to it

[00:16:21] because I haven't played guidance yet.

[00:16:24] And I'm currently playing Yakuza 6.

[00:16:27] I really do feel bad the backlog was like, dude, you will thank me later, play the opposite six, then guidance, then go to infinite wealth.

[00:17:42] I agree. I would also I'm doing it.

[00:17:44] I would argue that you should probably play three as well, but not because I really care to complete it. It's because like I've finished the game. I've done difficulty. Oh, like how is it difficult to go? I'm thinking I'm done five. I don't know. I'm on four and I'm hard stuck, but I'm also still experimenting. So I bet if I just like fucking doubled down on what the best thing is, I probably could

[00:19:03] get through it.

[00:19:04] You're probably get like bowl is really good.

[00:19:05] Like you can probably beat like every difficulty with just bull. easier as you get more options, but also could pollute your like random item pull kind of at the same time. That's awesome. That's awesome. Fuck. Good game. Waste of time though. I agree. It's like popcorn of games. It's vampire survivors syndrome. So I'm trying to do my 12 games of Japanese or whatever.

[00:20:22] I've done.

[00:20:23] Oh, what is it? premises, she had a dream where somebody says that she can increase her powers by going into this, the magic forest next to the witch's school, because of course there's a magic forest next to the witch's school. And Bayne has a real fuck up. She's dog shit. And so they impress her mama. She's going into the forest. And that's where she encounters a demon that she traps into her stuffed

[00:21:41] animal. And it's interesting because like a Yeah. How did you acquire this skill? Probably about a year of study at this point. I have been putting out a journal or whatever, like this morning, it actually came out.

[00:23:00] So if you're listening to this in the future,

[00:23:02] go back and listen to Phillips Japanese journal for January.

[00:23:06] And I'll talk who's talking sins. Stupid kids don't know how to speak fucking proper. He keeps a japan baby talk. He's a thing in spy family because on your ass. Yeah, on your speaks and baby. Yeah, baby talk. Yeah, and I'm like, wait, you can't understand a goddamn thing Bonnie says.

[00:24:21] So is that like, is that written in a different language

[00:24:24] then if they talk like,

[00:24:25] no, oh, really? Yeah, like, because Mount Fuji has like a lot weird thing like that, right? Yeah. Well, there goes my dream of getting you to translate the whole tribe. I mean, I'll try. Aren't translated yet. Well, that was the thing when we were playing World War Z, the game we're talking about this week, spoiler alert.

[00:25:40] There's a level in Tokyo.

[00:25:41] And one more we're walking around,

[00:25:43] Phil was like, hey, nave, this bus.

[00:25:45] It says, what'd you say?

[00:25:46] I don't remember. I'm picking up with your laying down. Yeah, not me. You you you Oh my god Bring it away way way way way way back to bayonetta Way you were I've been holding on this for so long the way that you described the how bayon has got the magic and she's running around Then you got the the Tibbers bear running around

[00:27:05] It reminds me this really obscure game from the 360 ps3 gen that nobody knows this double and then throw them back in the air and he gets pig again. They I can't believe they ripped off Knight's contract. Dude, I do not obey a better game. This is definitely like some other game that they reskinned. This is a Doki Doki panic type situation. That game got 3.5 out of 10 on IGN. Oh, the Knights contract.

[00:28:20] It's not good.

[00:28:21] That's that's hardcore.

[00:28:23] If you're getting a 3.5 from IGN, they'll give anybody a 7.5.

[00:28:28] Yeah, everyone gets a 7. And I'm like oh shit. I'm in like fucking sophomore year in high school. Oh I see what you're fucking I see what you're doing here, Stephen. You're cooking with grease Holy shit, there's 18 ace combat games Jesus Christ Just yeah, and they're animates. I want to buy okay. I'll be right back. What's sorry one second

[00:31:03] There's a delivery at my door. It's every ace combat game. itself is really fun. Especially if you play a co-op It's surprisingly difficult like if you play co-op on arcade mode you only get I think you can you can jack up the like I started to realize how cool that system is, especially for like arcadey stuff. So like games like this, like back in the back of the day, I probably would have been like, this is a stupid game. Like I'd rather play Uncharted or some fucking triple A game, but like now that I'm going

[00:32:20] back and playing this shit, this is so fun, especially if you play this stuff in coop.

[00:32:25] And then, you know, a sword swipe, so it's a shmup and it's bullet hell as fuck, but like you have a sword that can swipe, like basically kind of like, it's like a witchy wiper. Yeah, and like where you in silver room. enemy enemy It puts you into turn-based combat, but like you can run around the arena But then like once your gauge fills up all the way you press a and then you could select the tax But the crazy thing is the attacks are like fucking wrestling moves

[00:35:04] You're like given like monsters like a fucking DDT It's like it's way it's it looks better than that. It's I think that was a Torque 3 Probably the best looking in 64 game that exists. Yeah, you might be right Yeah, Torque 3 well that was that and I'm pretty sure hybrid heaven was late if I'm not Yeah, well, I mean I don't know why I said yeah, I have no idea

[00:36:26] Torque 3 was also a it was I think the game cube Norman Reedus? Oh That's right. Yeah, man. You try to look at his dick. You like takes the camera and he like pulls it up And he's like no no no right here There's a good old-fashioned lollipop chains. Did you did you guys see the fucking trailer for Death's writing to?

[00:37:45] There's a second one pretty cool slick. And then there's another game in that series that was on the SNES called Jockey Crush. So instead of being like aliens or like demons and shit, it's all like Japanese mythology stuff. That's pretty fucking horses. Orts crush. I and shit and the music is really fucking good. The combat is weird but like it's kind of addictive and fun. So like instead of learning new moves as your characters level up or giving them fucking

[00:40:20] materia or however the fuck else people learn moves in other RPGs, they instead each character I don't need it. I don't know no no card games good too. No, but He's trying to make me mad no get out of his thing get out of here with fucking triple triad I don't need another shit. You don't tell me don't get high from that down

[00:43:00] Dude, I mean I I think we cut you off. No, that's it, man. No puzzle games, pinball puzzle games. Nay, if you need to pluck in everybody's to play Chrono Cross. People give it shit because it's not Chrono Trigger, but fuck him. I'll fuck him. Got him. Yeah, that's the problem with Final Fantasy 8 is

[00:43:02] people give it shit that it's not seven.

[00:43:03] Am I right?

[00:43:05] What's the deal favorite Final Fantasy What you and Beth will get along quite well. That's like one of hers to I mean, it's no eight but oh

[00:44:24] We need to keep this moving otherwise

[00:45:23] Yeah, I did. And I am not yet.

[00:45:25] Navy specifically calling out. We got more feedback about my Japanese lessons from Hoppel.

[00:45:29] And he, you know, thanked us for the update.

[00:45:32] And he tested a couple of games where you're able to turn on Japanese

[00:45:37] and he tested justent and tow them, which is a big issue,

[00:45:40] because there's a lot of games where they do not let you change the language in game.

[00:45:44] Yakuza.

[00:45:46] You can't switch to the Japanese in game.

[00:46:45] Do you give a switch right? Yeah, I do. You can get it. I think you can get like a physical one for like 20 bucks on Amazon If not cheaper, I'm sure buying a game. Oh

[00:46:50] Yeah, I never buy games like it my whole collection is just

[00:46:54] From like gifts from my relatives because that's all they buy me is like hey you want one of them Japanese

[00:47:00] Vijigames and I'm like you want sponge Bob for the Nintendo pisses me off too because games like

[00:48:02] and see their underwear and shit and I'm like, this is great.

[00:48:04] This is making me not scared at all.

[00:48:08] I am really fucking in.

[00:48:09] I am in dude. Holy shit.

[00:48:10] I didn't realize that.

[00:48:11] I mean, I played fatal frame two.

[00:48:12] That's it.

[00:48:13] There ain't no jiggle physics and that shit.

[00:48:15] Another problem was a fatal frame two on the like the PS one or something.

[00:48:19] PSCM physics back then.

[00:48:22] Unless you are unless you are working at a fucking dead or alive.

[00:48:25] What is a team ninja that made that shit?

[00:49:20] Yeah. Now, see you all of cruelly angel thesis.

[00:49:24] I got to eyeball the words.

[00:49:26] Fly me to the moon.

[00:49:29] Let me sail.

[00:49:30] It's time for the asshole.

[00:49:32] And I don't think I linked it to our guests,

[00:49:34] so they haven't had time to actually take a look at it.

[00:49:36] Uh-oh.

[00:49:37] Yeah.

[00:49:38] So here, boys, take a look at it,

[00:49:40] and each of you pick out whichever one is your favorite.

[00:49:43] Bird up.

[00:49:44] It does not have to be zombie related.

[00:49:45] We're sure.

[00:49:46] The bonus points it is.

[00:49:48] I'm a go pee pee. No, single episode of blue. Oh, no, because we brought to that with Daniel. So much Daniel tiger. What? Yeah, dude. Yeah, it's I mean, we don't know. We don't love it, but like it's just on all the fucking time or two year old loves it. So it's always fucking on man. The podcast is going to be a real hit with the three year old.

[00:51:01] Do you really going to have a niche, niche market?

[00:51:04] Do do do poo poo. Ra-ra rain. This does not look like it is a burner account. No, but they don't seem very active, but they spend a lot of time going on different. Uh, all right. Well, hold on. Uh, on our slash Corpus Christi, the Corpus Christi Texas subreddit, I guess, uh, he wrote cat pee smell slash

[00:52:21] chemical spell. Does anyone else smell that God awful stench?

[00:52:23] I lived close to the water and it's awful.

[00:52:26] I thought my cat peeing outside my door.

[00:53:22] he lost all his crap and was upset. This really is me.

[00:53:23] He was right now in the asshole.

[00:53:25] I told him I didn't care and then he has no excuse to be yelling and that he was irritating

[00:53:29] me.

[00:53:30] He told me that's why I have no friends.

[00:53:31] He called me in and left our room to go hang out with our roommate.

[00:53:36] I feel like I could have at least, could have at least let him explain why he was upset.

[00:53:40] Am I the asshole?

[00:53:42] Too long didn't read husband yells at his games late at night and I told him I didn't

[00:53:45] care about his reasons and that he just needs to stop. He doesn't like fucking video games. Doesn't like any of this shit. Fuck, I don't want to hang up with this kid. And then I'd be like, MOOF! He's fucking swearing! I wouldn't say fucking, because I was a little kid, but I'd be like, HE'S SWORE, like, SIX TIES, and she'd be like, WHAT!? I'm calling this mom right now! I'd be like, YEAH!

[00:55:00] Get him out of here!

[00:55:01] Yeah, dude.

[00:55:02] I swear to god,

[00:55:04] I started to go to Phillip's parents,

[00:55:06] told my dad that I swore he'd probably just stare at them instinct is to say no the ladies the right because it's it's too close to hope for you and you don't want to call yourself yes we're certainly because it's just like me and also just like me he has autism so come on come on I think that that's a huge thing in this pro that he has autism what are the

[00:56:20] comments what are the comments even says in his butt. He came back in the room to tell me I was so sorry they don't have those in person. He came back in the room to tell me I was selfish and that he didn't care about what I thought. He doesn't want to argue with me and he's not and never will be sorry. Damn. I told him it was rude to say I don't have friends. I have a couple good friends and that's it literally too.

[00:57:41] And he told me he told me it doesn't matter because they were fake and probably hate

[00:57:45] me.

[00:57:46] Yeah, this dude track's not normal. We're still going to come in. This is played totally strange. If you use dimethyl sulfate to make one of their medications, he stole some from me. So you could make a chemical weapon.

[00:59:00] So I can make perfume.

[00:59:03] Oh god, that's not The main character has that same kind of shit that like social ineptitude and uh you like Hurt somebody's feelings been on on purpose and you'll be like, why are they upset? It's like well, well Sam That's why but I mean still this guy like

[01:00:21] It's like it's three in the fucking morning and he's playing Minecraft on his phone and fucking screaming like dude you

[01:01:22] usually about like losing a video games, but what it would be more about would be like change

[01:01:26] or something like like a lot of people have autism

[01:01:28] are extremely routine driven.

[01:01:30] And if the routine is disrupted,

[01:01:31] they have extremely hard time dealing with that.

[01:01:33] And they usually lash out.

[01:01:34] And if you could include dying and losing all your shit

[01:01:38] in a video game and like as part of like a disruption

[01:01:41] to your routine, because like he's not expecting that.

[01:01:44] Like, but not that being said, like I sound like

[01:01:46] a defending this guy.

[01:01:47] Like, look, you're like if he's not gonna listen to her, then the alternative is to get the neighbors involved. Who are the ones that she's looking out for? Like I don't know what you're supposed to be. I don't or maybe get the landlord. Like no matter what, something serious has to happen for him to go, oh, oh, oh, oh, you know what I mean?

[01:03:01] This isn't just me and my girlfriend being mad at me

[01:03:03] because from his perspective, he thinks that she is just

[01:03:06] completely disregarding everything. So he's saying the husband is comfortable being loud, but our neighbor now has already given us dirty looks because I have night hairs and screaming my sleep. So they have a new neighbor, apparently. Sounds like a very loud house. Well, this is exactly what I was saying. Like she's screaming at her sleep. She's up all night. So just when is she screaming in the middle

[01:04:20] of the day? Well, no, he said she said that she doesn't have a job. So I assume she sleeps at night.

[01:04:25] Because that's what I was saying. I mean, she says she doesn't want to argue and he's not and never will be sorry. The amount of doubling down gave me so much respect for this guy to be such an insulin household. I'm not and I will never be so. It reminds me of a shadow. It reminds me of a shadow.

[01:05:40] No, we have a friend named shadow and we would be dedicated Lee wrong sometimes. I could have at least let him explain why he's upset. Am I the asshole? She thinks that she's asking if she's an asshole for what? For not wanting him to scream in the middle night, she's standing her ground saying, don't do that. Yeah, but I'm telling you that she's aware that she's not the asshole. She's aware of that. So why is this even here?

[01:07:00] This is just a vent.

[01:07:01] It's just a rhetorical question.

[01:07:01] Yes, a rhetorical question.

[01:07:02] Okay, yeah, I guess I could see that.

[01:07:04] Maybe she's asking for advice like how to handle this.

[01:07:06] Isn't there subreddits for advice

[01:07:08] of for people being assholes? I've got lots of comments going back months, so I don't know if this is a throwaway. But this might have been made for this post. Let me see again. No, this is a 21 day old post. So this is probably just a new account. My husband and I play video games. Everyone knows that most multiplayer online games have trolls. Well, that happened to me this morning.

[01:08:21] I was playing with a teammate that was trolling me.

[01:08:24] I don't generally get upset about these types of things, but this morning I did. Yes. So after she tells him to shut the fuck up, this turned into, into me getting called a bitch whore cunt. Uh, he thinks that he was wronged in some sort of way. Did me telling him to shut the fuck up really warn all of that. And then there's an edit. Thank you for all of your opinions.

[01:09:41] I got the clarity I needed.

[01:09:44] Hopefully.

[01:09:44] Chip.

[01:09:46] So.

[01:09:47] I don't matter. This is where he fucked up. I know this particularly because I get fucking mad at games I know big surprise the So I play games with people in the parties and almost everybody that I know knows the procedure

[01:11:00] I know Philip knows what I'm about to say but when someone's getting mad at a game go radio silent

[01:12:02] Don't ever do that because if they had control of their emotions That's what being mad is is losing control of your emotions and getting and getting frustrated

[01:12:06] If they had control of their emotions, they wouldn't be mad

[01:12:10] By definition so it does nothing it literally does nothing ever to tell someone unless you're talking to a fucking Buddhist monk

[01:12:19] Who like who has been doing this his whole life controlling his emotions?

[01:12:23] It will never help to your point to your point Why are you so pissed and it's usually a souls game but like Even even if even if she came in said stop getting so mad at this game My response would not be shut the fuck up like That is overly aggressive and

[01:13:41] At like the way that he reciprocates to be like bitch whore cunt

[01:13:46] Dude that's fucked like these two I'm gonna be fucking in a hospital like tonight. Like she's going to cut something on my body and I'm not going to be okay with it. Like if I say shut the fuck up about anything, I'm sure there's gonna be very bad repercussions to saying that. It's not something that I could just like throw out.

[01:15:03] Like I could say to my buddies,

[01:15:08] just be like, do shut the fuck up. Oh, but this is this is the thing is stop is different from why are you mad or stop being mad? That's true. Stop is different stop is like I can make you were crossing lines. No, it's like literally you are over the line of this thing, right? Rather than like maybe you like an idiot Yeah, I'm being like why are you so stupid that you can't control your emotions you googoo gaga infant

[01:16:22] You want to baba you need a diaper change? It's going for this, this, this bit, but yeah, basically. He's testing the waters. Don't let him lie to you. I wouldn't talk to you for a long time. OK, yeah. Yeah, she wouldn't talk me for a long time. She'd walk away. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's hard core to say. Shut the fuck up.

[01:17:40] You're a significant other.

[01:17:41] That's crazy.

[01:17:42] This lady's playing games.

[01:17:43] She's getting mad and yelling and shit.

[01:17:46] Husband says, stop being a baby. So like yeah, you gotta you gotta find the right one man, and I don't know if it's gonna be like right away No, I'm gonna I'm gonna die alone, but that's okay because I know you won't I know you won't Go speaking of the devil. Oh, that's my that's not that there. She's not the devil lever alone All right, it looks like we're going on a trip through his house. Did we do we do we play a video game together?

[01:19:04] She kicked him out saying shut the fuck up to her. Oh, yeah, he muted his mic. I saw it

[01:20:06] to break up. If this is or if this is something this simple is like turning into a fucking war, then they need really intense couples therapy or they just need a breakup and they

[01:20:11] probably already have I assume agreed.

[01:20:14] All right. Yeah, I agreed. They all suck. All right, Dave. That's not what I said. Two

[01:20:19] assholes. Two assholes. Everybody's got main. Well, you know, I can explain why I brought this up because when we were playing, we were playing on a Russian level and I highlighted how none of the characters seem to have any

[01:21:40] heavy Russian accents or speaking Russian. And's so funny because it's like, well, how are we an anime related by it? And then you look at my thumbnail from last week and it's just a bunch of animation on the bottom. You guys like berserk? I haven't seen it. No, I don't like horse penises. I'm like Vosh. That's a joke for nobody but me. I'm not explaining it. Oh, I can't explain this. Go Google it.

[01:23:00] Explain it on if you want to explain yourself. Google, Google horse fucker Vosh and then that's it.

[01:23:05] So this is the room rich. Okay, go.

[01:23:07] Am I the butt face? And this one is tagged with serious. So you know serious right now, bro. About this fucking Caucasian speaking fake Vietnamese. Alright, so for context, we live in an apartment that has a balcony with a sliding door that opens into my roommates, John, bedroom. John likes to be in the room, likes their room to be cold 24-7,

[01:24:22] and tends to keep the patio door open at all times.

[01:24:25] A week or two ago, we recently had a family of Asian descent and said, I'm racist towards everybody quote unquote in response. Am I the butt face or telling him to stop? This is a tough one. Is it? I don't know. I was a Caucasian guy. Let me weigh in on this one real quick. Save earlier. Take the word. I referred to a Hawaiian mountain.

[01:25:41] Mountain Wanna Haka.

[01:25:42] Leaving.

[01:25:43] I'm pretending to speak Hawaiian or shame.

[01:26:44] above face for telling my Caucasian roommate not to pretend to speak Vietnamese in your shot of our new Asian neighbors. Okay, so specifically, he's pretending to speak Vietnamese,

[01:26:49] which I could not like if you put a whole bunch of Asian languages in front of me and played

[01:26:53] them for me, I do not know if I could identify Vietnamese.

[01:26:56] I think I've listened to so much accuser that I could differentiate a few of them, but I

[01:27:00] don't think I could too. Yeah. Well, see, do you like, um, well, it he like, so Russell Peters is like an East East Indian comedian, but he like, he can do like all the different Asian accents like fucking perfectly. It's kind of funny. Again, it's the the standup that I'm referring to is kind of old. And by today's standards, probably wouldn't be okay. So he breaks down like what he's like, okay, they're not trying to hurt anybody. They're not trying, like, I've had this conversation with my friends a lot of the whole context thing. And like, no, if you're making fun of a certain group of people specifically to, like, I don't know, make fun of how they try to learn another language.

[01:29:43] It's like, motherfucker, you speak to fucking languages,

[01:29:45] you try it and sound perfect. main character syndrome and they think that everything pertains to them. It's, I don't think just speaking in a fucking dialect is racist at all. Because, and this is, and this is why I think that way, no one gets mad whenever you speak in a southern accent or when you speak like a Russian, right? Or Philip was talking about a pirate and it's like, oh, you can pretend that that's different, but like, it's culturally different because people were racist towards Japanese people

[01:31:02] and Vietnamese people because we went to a war with them here in this country.

[01:31:05] And that makes sense, right? It's like you can't remember what the context is because he's like it doesn't matter like so the little bit is that like he meets a Native American and he's like he's like oh shit and they're he's going through doing the all the stereotypical Native American shit and then like he meets this Chinese person

[01:32:22] or I mean this Korean person and he's like he says they're Chinese and because I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm so why is this is this like a fucking intervention all three of these pertain to me in some way? It feels like like I'm being called out If you see yourself in the assholes, then that's your own business

[01:35:01] That's called empathy fuck yeah, no, no, you did this to yourself, dude

[01:36:07] I mean if it based on just what what we've read the guy was just like oh, maybe they wouldn't like you to find

[01:36:10] like Maybe you know if he was pretending to speak Vietnamese whether it's with the accent or not. I mean

[01:36:15] You know, it's crazy. I just should my bad one of my best friends lives in Shanghai

[01:36:20] His girlfriend is from Shanghai. He's I mean he's from the east coast of Canada like me

[01:36:26] and like

[01:36:27] she is make a funny you back and you guys are laughing about it. This is a fuck. Wait, okay, but what if you're doing this not to hurt the people you're using the accent towards or okay, so you're using a Vietnamese accent. You're not trying to hurt the Vietnamese people downstairs, but you even speak to me slow he's like they wouldn't even like either like the like the you know what my mind might not be being the me's either he's saying clarify just as Asian descent you

[01:39:02] know what the most impressive part of it this whole thing is none of us there's the had more than one guest and all of us played together. Like that never happens and gave me together history. Dude, I'll be honest, it was a lot of fun. And I think that if I hadn't played this game with all of you guys, I would not have enjoyed it as much. Even if I was playing it was just one other, like Dave, when you and I were playing, it was good.

[01:41:43] But I was like, it's okay. game so the more that we played the funnier it got but it covered things for me and one of the dumbest things was that my character that I kept picking looked like pit bull and I just kept yelling this worldwide and the one of the funniest things that like I had I always had a headache the next day

[01:43:02] nave after you picked me up and you were like dude I can I we're gonna we're gonna talk about Left 4 Dead knockoffs I think that it should be noted like there is some weird special sauce that Left 4 Dead does and I don't know if specifically it's like there is a weird loop that is extremely addicting that is hard to emulate and a lot of games are trying to emulate I think that probably the game that gets

[01:44:22] closest to it is payday to probably or feel like the immediate reaction to World War Z

[01:45:41] was like, oh, this is a little bit more flashier.

[01:45:46] Like Back for Blood literally just felt like left for dead, Like this game feels like what I imagined the original Dead Rising was like and I played the crap out of the original Dead Rising Going back to it. There's like ten zombies in each little area just kind of going around And then everything else is a JPEG Silly pop in when you get close enough then you can go make juice That's always cool for making juice making juice. Yeah, you make the juice the go fast juice the Spitfire the quick step

[01:47:04] You didn't make the juice the juice was worthless. Just. Yeah, okay. It's a good way. I like a horror movie Horror movie I thought this was like an action movie. Yeah, it's not it's got a little book, but I never saw the movie the movies

[01:48:23] Okay, it's got Brad Pitt with his fucking sexy long hair

[01:49:42] Yeah, I mean apparently the movie is very different from the book cuz like the book is like anthology all about like I just say yeah, you fucked it up Not a great title So we do have these two that were referenced earlier, so I want I want Jerry to read the first review And then I want Aaron to read the second review Where is Brad Pitt? Yeah is from MZK nice 45 hours. Oh

[01:52:25] Aaron can't talk right now the other one says where's Brad Pitt? I because that was my initial worry whenever I saw someone talking about it. I'm like, oh, no, I'm getting bamboozled. Look at that. Boozel. That's the worst type of unfax way. Let's get into the meat more meat. You didn't read the second fun fact. Was a fun fact. Oh, inside of this. Yeah. Okay. stronger if you get wish back You know, let's not get in the triangle ball mechanics A crowd made out of coconuts. Oh, no This game has a lot of characters and has know what i don't know what the hat's the baguettes the hats yeah and i was just like just like the last and i don't know the bro over the last day by the but all who the with the racist guy i myself was racist against french people when i saw him standing next to the another french lady and i was like whoa it's a fucking same character no she was russian

[01:53:42] she was why did she have a baguette on her head then

[01:53:44] russian's where those are right that because I see it feels like some people would complain about even though I thought it was pretty cool I thought that you know it being different characters like changes it up I learned more about pit bull that night than I ever have in my entire life because I started looking up like pit bull quotes So you can keep saying them You need to look up the fucking Dave crawl

[01:55:04] Pit bull parody. It's called sin your feature I don't remember. But I was, I had played this game before and I was already a level 30 medic. So I was just kind of keeping you three alive the whole time. Yeah. You also didn't know, you also did not know that you could play in first person. Which I think is also was patched in. I don't think that that existed.

[01:56:21] But I think it's so funny because you're like, you were the only one adamant about picking

[01:56:25] the one character and you when we played Robo Robo quest yeah has a really good aim assist. I Can turn it up higher. Yeah, you can really like you pull that fucking aim and like snaps on to the dude

[01:57:41] Like really good and like I feel like that's that's the thing also is that I'm the medic So I'm always the one running over to pick people up to and shit So it's like I'm always getting hurt while doing that because there's always a million zombies everywhere There's never a good time to heal or pick people up But you do get healed like since you're the medic class you were able to heal yourself when you healed others Which is a way you stayed alive and like I played as

[01:59:00] I think the slayer class

[01:59:02] Which its whole thing was that I got like temporary health points when I'm a late enemies

[02:00:05] But like my medic thing said, like I had perks that said whenever you get down decapitated, whenever you get incapacitated, you are, you don't die for 25% longer.

[02:00:13] And then you also get healed by the medic kits 10% more and shit like that.

[02:00:17] So everyone can like kind of stack each other.

[02:00:20] And that's very reminiscent of payday because payday did that.

[02:00:23] Yeah, they did. get to like level five, you have to spend like 1,500 credits, which is like playing on the lowest difficulty, like seven goal campaigns. Like you have to fucking this. Cry. Christ. Yeah. Oh, thanks. But that's the thing. That's the thing is that all of those guns, you get to the point where you're like, since every gun is individually levels up, you start to remember which ones you like the most.

[02:01:41] So, and that's also the ones that are leveling up.

[02:01:44] So they go hand in hand.

[02:01:46] The ones you don't use, it's like,

[02:01:47] I fucking hate the shotguns, I never use them. every single upgrade only the ones you want and you can see all of the upgrades from the get-go so you can see what they all do and If you if the next thing you level up to to upgrade and you don't want to you don't want It's like you're up your grenades do incendiary damage You don't have to buy that because you can only have one upgrade per column So it's like it seems at first that it's a huge like grind

[02:03:02] But it really isn't as bad as it seems this game have like premium currency or anything like that

[02:03:07] It does but skins

[02:04:05] But yeah, like the the too many dudes formula

[02:04:07] I Always enjoy them initially

[02:04:11] But I find the appeal of them wears off very quickly for me like

[02:04:16] killing floor

[02:04:18] What should you do a few rounds of killing killing floor? It's like I get it. I kind of got it

[02:04:24] Say thing was left for dead like I mean as good as leopard that is

[02:05:25] As far as playing a game like that like if you guys were like hey, we're all gonna get together and play it again I'd I'd reinstall it for that, but I'm not gonna play it on my own

[02:05:29] It's already sounds like final words territory

[02:05:32] Do you guys have any more viewpoints?

[02:05:36] All right, well this is our final words

[02:05:42] Music place

[02:05:44] All right back to you, Jerry

[02:06:46] I'll play this again. Yeah, I'll fucking throw it on it takes like I don't know what ten minutes to reinstall the game

[02:06:57] I would I would whenever it comes to a game that has co-op like this if someone's like hey We're all gonna get together. We're gonna hang out. We're gonna play this game. Yeah, I'll throw it on I'm not gonna I'm not gonna not

[02:07:04] but like as far as

[02:08:03] Yeah, because we in Philip are in a party. And so I aim my gun and I just go left to right horizontally.

[02:08:08] And then he's like, well, he was like, can you hear me?

[02:08:11] Yes.

[02:08:12] Do you speak a spaniel?

[02:08:14] No.

[02:08:16] And he's like, oh, OK.

[02:08:17] And then they just start speaking Spanish.

[02:08:20] But what was really good is they both joined our game

[02:08:23] close to the same time.

[02:08:24] And one of them was up on the top of this area.

[02:08:28] And we all three jumped down. And then name is just fully Kelly throwing out the Iyas I karumba The I guess I'll do my final words that like I like the two before me has said This game is one of those games to where if you play it for an hour You've already seen everything that you need to see but that doesn't necessarily

[02:09:42] Like write it off as a terrible game

[02:11:02] This is a great mindless game like hammer experience you can I thought you were gonna say vermatide suck I was like Jesus. Do you like video games? First Jerry's over you're like no, I really play halo on controller guys. Oh, that's all I do Next thing you're gonna say is president evil six sucks like what the fuck's going on? No, no, it does not and that's a topic for another time that game is fucking awesome as long as you play and co-op

[02:12:06] I would absolutely play this with other people just for the sake and it's it's cross play. It's one of the few games It's cross play. So that's really fucking cool and

[02:12:10] Yeah, I also like

[02:12:14] How I was like the different I've said like a million times skill trees I fuck with skill trees so fucking hard dude

[02:12:22] That's just really cool to me

[02:12:24] Yeah, it was fun. It's uh, that's not like the skill trees and how all the weapons level up and all of that stuff. The more complicated you make one of these shoot all the too many dudes games, the less likely it is to stick for a lot of people, right? Like some people really do like to play games like Phillip said, just to continue to progress, progression for progression's sake.

[02:13:40] Yeah, they call it a siege problem.

[02:13:41] Yeah, and this game also has prestige.

[02:13:44] You can prestige your fucking things if you want to.

[02:13:46] I don't know why you'd have to have like you'd have to prioritize you know make sure the medic is all good have like two gunners known the person be't know when this podcast will come out, but at the time of this recording it'll be out for two weeks from now. They can also get us on Twitter at superghostradio on Instagram at superghostradio and that Twitch at superghostlive and our YouTube channel super-ghost.

[02:16:24] That was not on purpose that I picked both of you with your brand new podcast Both of it chess. Oh, okay. Let's know but it has to be like doubles where we take turns No fucking 3d chess shit we alternate, you know Like our name your turn get in there and then I'm like oh and then I'm just muting my mic like God fucking damn it Bill the Queen's hanging you insane

[02:17:42] Or you just do a Vietnamese accent and you're like oh my