Episode 133: How to Podcast -Furries at Arby's

[00:00:00] Hello and welcome to Gaming Together Cooperative Podcast.

[00:00:20] I'm your host Philip and I'm here with my co-op partner, Naive.

[00:00:23] Each pod we play through a collaborative experience and video games on the internet. So this is a chance for the dear listener at home to take a little look behind our skirts and see who we really are. So, Naive, what do you do for a living? How do you exist? I don't know if that last while I've been a postal worker, been a mail carrier. It's a hard, it's hard living. It's rough life. Yeah. You know, it's cold. Every time me

[00:01:44] and Janaro drive in, I see a mail truck. You have to be able to get behind it. Seems kind of sus. You know, when noise me about those boxes though, because I think another one you're talking about, you know how many times I've broken a key off in the package or parcel one? Yeah, that

[00:03:04] happens all the time. And then the only have a hundred hobby that I like jump hoops between a whole bunch of different ones. But primarily I game I do a lot I do a little bit of anime watching. I do some guitar playing some I play some chess used to play magic a whole lot I put that down for

[00:04:20] a while. I do a lot of reading audio books on top of that. You

[00:04:26] know the podcast music and stuff I'm really into guitar. You mentioned that part. Yeah. So you play guitar lately. We've been playing. Or just jam. For the most part, I just play the same like 30 songs. I know it's always ever long and then a misery business. Yeah, it just never changes. That's so wild. You said misery business because I did just recently learn how to play that.

[00:05:40] Like maybe a month ago. I mean, it's a good one.

[00:05:42] Jump, junk. Yeah. But but that that song is an E standard.

[00:05:46] And so I never in a standard. I'm like, man, I'm tearing up. This is rock and roll as hell. Yeah, there was this one where this, I don't remember what band it is, but I saw them live recently. They were like basically Linkin Park, but a little bit heavier, just a little bit heavier. And no, it is like a newer band.

[00:07:01] And they were like, oh, this, this person was still kind of sick. And so I say a couple of days ago. Is that a bander show? Cattle decapitation is a band.

[00:08:20] OK, I don't think I've heard of that one.

[00:08:22] Yeah, I'm bad.

[00:08:23] You could probably guess what they sound like.

[00:08:26] Like you could probably hear it in. But it's Christmas now. So they were playing one of the killers Christmas songs because the killers have a Christmas album. I don't know

[00:09:40] if you've heard it, but we played every year in our house because we love the killers Christmas

[00:09:45] album. clip that I think it was like, it might have been the Foo Fighters. They had a kid on stage and they're like, Hey, you know, little Jimmy, do you want to sing with us? And he's like, Oh, yeah, I saw, I don't know what songs or whatever. And he's like, Oh, what songs do you know? And he's like, I listened to a lot of Metallica in the, just like, all right, I know some Metallica. He's like, you guys know Metallica and the band's like, yeah, we

[00:11:00] know Metallica. And they're like, Oh, no, maybe. And he's like,? What is your your reliance thing like if you're a Dungeons and Dragons character, what's your class specialty? Probably charisma That would probably be it or maybe wisdom you're we're just we're specifically talking about drag if we're having a discussion and you manage to like pick up a running thread, I know that you can run with it pretty far as far as like a conversational strand goes. Not necessarily like pulling a tangent, but

[00:13:42] able to keep a joke or goof running. all these concerts. I am late to those. That is my favorite thing in the world. And I relate to those every time. Yeah. That's what I think you're risk weaknesses. All right. This last one is what do you think you're famous or known for? Oh, the last of us being a prankster amongst their kind, the people that like that show. You just love to feed

[00:15:03] that fire, don't you? Which I started watching the show and the show's not bad. I think I've I find that interesting is that like a lot of podcasts on Twitter will own like though This is strictly our podcast account. No our gaming together podcast is basically names personal Twitter account I'm just fucking doing really dumb shit on there all the time. It is not always gaming related

[00:16:26] You can always just see what I'm into because I'll tweet took it out Because of that because so many was like no no Thank you or something like that he explained it better go listen to that episode where he explains it through his own mouth Well, I think that was like a thing for a while with like what was it that don't see me or you can't see me guy

[00:17:43] Who's that what John Cena John Cena? I think John Cena had to do like an apology or something because he mentioned Taiwan

[00:18:44] Oh yeah, about, you know, my career, how I support myself since we're not supported by gaming together.

[00:18:46] I've done about I did about two years working as a correctional officer at the Oklahoma State

[00:18:51] Penitentiary and realized I like the military style and the conforming.

[00:18:55] And so then I joined the military because the prison sucked, joined the Air Force specifically.

[00:19:00] Been in for about eight years.

[00:19:01] I'm a staff sergeant enlisted. next. Next. Okay. Hoobies. Tell us about those who bees. So my hobbies. I love walking because it's like the only thing I can do that keeps my baby and my dog happy because otherwise my dog is losing their goddamn. Otherwise my baby is losing his goddamn mind. While Jan is trying to take care of our two older kids and you know, make dinner and stuff

[00:20:23] like that. It's been a lot of time your greatest strength? Oh, yeah. Easy.

[00:21:43] I think I'm hella organized kind of.

[00:21:48] I will make endless lists and excel sheets, basically highlighting everything I should be my dog's feelings. Oh, I had greatest weakness. I think I can be pretty dumb as hell when it comes to a lot of things. And my English fails me a lot, which kind of sucks whenever I'm trying to learn other languages. Like there's, I don't know, it's funny because I've done like, I'm still in doing, like school or whatever. I guess I could have been on a hobby.

[00:23:01] I'm going through online school for early childhood development, family studies,

[00:24:07] improved, but not as much as the kids that went to Spain. So it was saying that not using a language as much as their other language actually damaged it. So then I was wondering about, am I possibly

[00:24:13] polluting myself by learning other languages that my English is less good than my other skills?

[00:24:21] Well, at least you don't podcast in English. So it doesn't matter.

[00:24:23] That doesn't matter. That's been a lot when we have a guest on and then they're just like, what? Like they're always just flabbergasted. You can never see it. Listen, but we, I see the look on the guest face when I somehow pick up on. What do you want? All right. So what's my greatest weakness? Then from your point of view, you have a family.

[00:25:43] I need more.

[00:25:44] I need more attention.

[00:25:45] I need more attention.

[00:26:44] road guides and showing people like, oh, here's thousands of people that I've helped with

[00:26:49] whatever this one off game is or whatever, get their achievements in there.

[00:26:51] But no, you had to be weird about it.

[00:26:51] Yeah. Well, I mean, I still get comments on those videos to this day asking if I'm

[00:26:55] going to make a new like, hold on, let me see.

[00:26:58] I can look at my latest comments.

[00:27:00] The last comment I got, oh my God, hold on.

[00:27:01] It was four days ago saying thanks.

[00:27:04] That's what I was like.

[00:27:05] I love the hidden airfield from Jason Bovington.

[00:27:08] I love the talk to me. Yeah. Maybe like how's full of strategy going? I don't fucking know, man. I don't know. I'm just fine for my life. So I thought I'd be most famous for this is another like job related bullshit. So here I even got the link. So back whenever I first started doing like maintenance or whatever on C

[00:28:22] 130s, basically I hated my early to go do college level testing. And I passed every single one of them. And I was taking a little infamous at work for that not forgetting out of work, but being a big fucking nerd. Yeah, the fucking book bookworm baby.

[00:31:00] I don't college boy over here.

[00:31:03] You know, I'm like none of those actually apply towards my bachelor degree or anything

[00:31:08] like that. go to college like you need to drop out of night school you do not belong here which he was right it was full of like drug addicts and gay gay bangers and shit i was i was the odd man out there and then uh... he was like you need to drop out here you need to go get your gd and go to college and the and he would take me out every day like at lunch and he would show give me like college applications and shit

[00:32:21] and then i was just like

[00:32:22] now but i will go get my gd and i went out the gd and i'm telling you guys i Any of it. So I'm like, I just ended up for like two months tutoring old people. That sounds like a very specific experience. Yeah, it was fucking it was easy to. So it was it wasn't even like. I don't know. It wasn't even difficult. And then like at the end of the year, they're like, Hey, you like got all the highest scores on all these GEDs and like all

[00:33:41] of Oklahoma. And so and so we need you to show up here for like a,

[00:33:46] like a ceremony or whatever. And I'm like for, and I guess this kind of reference back to my other shit is that I seem to just like to get out of work. No matter what it takes. Called lazy, I guess. I mean, all you have to do is just fuck off on the computer. It's like, that's like, that's easy. Dude, my, my job is so nice now. Like I made it.

[00:35:01] I finally made it.

[00:35:03] Let's see.

[00:35:03] I don't know if I mentioned it before in the pod, but I recently got reassigned

[00:36:05] I'm just getting means like that. Well, there's a lot of crap like that up there. Like it's so weird because it seems like a, I don't know, like pre society society type deal where

[00:36:11] there's just like moose and bears and shit and snow everywhere. It's like that game lake

[00:36:16] where you're the male lady. There's like seven buildings. Well, the thing is like we have

[00:36:21] a lot of Canadian co podcast friends or whatever and husky. Oh, you got a husky. Yeah, which we got it in Oklahoma and I always we used to make fun of people that had huskies in Oklahoma and Texans, something like that. Like what the fuck are you doing? You literally have like an ice dog and you're living in the south. Like why would you do this to your dog? Your dog is probably on fire. But now I don't feel bad whenever we move to the grid wide north.

[00:38:44] Oh, I guess we can mention that. Yeah. Like it. I'm currently in Texas, San Antonio and the highways are five highways tall stacked on top of each other and they go in big swoopy's.

[00:38:51] So I'll be happy to move somewhere where the highways aren't stacked as tall, I guess.

[00:38:56] So this one, I think that covers our reintroduction in case we have any new semi new listeners

[00:39:02] that wanted to get really to know the Philip and I, 24 male, moved in with my boyfriend, 25 male, a few months ago.

[00:40:25] A few weeks ago.

[00:40:27] A few months, a few weeks ago. that have fanservice female characters. I never thought anything about it ever and still don't. I also do not exclusively play as women in case someone asks. We have a gaming room with a TV for each and every now and then. He will. We have a gaming room with a TV for each and every now and then.

[00:41:40] We will occasionally make remarks when he sees me in control of a female character,

[00:41:45] but I shut it down each time because I should just stop to keep the peace. My parents admit they had the same theories that my B.F. did when I was still living with them growing up but never actually saw it as a problem. So I guess I don't know if I'm missing something here. Am I the couple of follow up comments and someone asked if his boyfriend only plays his male characters and our poster replies that he never noticed until he started bringing it up. But yes, he only plays his male characters that I've seen. Huh. Another person asked what fighting game it was. And he said that he thinks

[00:44:24] it was dead or alive six, which is not figures.

[00:45:24] He's like, because girls are hot and now I get to stare at this but all day while I'm playing this game.

[00:45:25] And I remember how eye opening that was for me.

[00:45:28] I was like, whoa, you're right.

[00:45:30] I hit you with the trap card, the Uno reverse.

[00:45:34] Like, oh, why are you looking at male butts all day?

[00:45:37] And I'm like, I wasn't looking at their butts at all.

[00:45:39] But now I can't.

[00:45:40] Now I'm thinking about it.

[00:45:43] So I don't know. by like the 2016, 2015 online arguments that people would have. You know what I mean? Where it's like you're you're a misogynist for playing dead or alive because they're the women are sexualized. And a lot of people I think most people who are playing these games they notice like yeah that woman's sexualized but at the same time that's not a sex object to them.

[00:47:00] They're just playing the fucking video game.

[00:47:02] They're just a kasumi main.

[00:47:03] You know what I mean?

[00:47:04] Because she's the case. I'm looking back and I'm trying just to see like as see when I make a female character and when I make a male character I'm kind of just putting shit together, you know what I mean? Well, usually the female characters have more designs than the male characters Is that true because I'm thinking of cyberpunk in my cyberpunk at this time, I barely used Facebook. This is when Phillip, I was just getting in there, looking at like meme pages that Phillip kept recommending to me, and then I dip out.

[00:51:01] I had a Facebook, but it's like,

[00:51:03] they were upset that I wasn't posting pictures of them

[00:51:05] or talking about them on my Facebook.

[00:51:07] And I was like, well, now, you know what I mean? And it's similar to this where it's like this guy is playing these female characters that which seem basically arbitrary to him But he's if he feels like he can't play female characters every time there's a female character in a game He's gonna look at that female character and be like I can't play that because that right was taken away from me because I because my boyfriend's gonna freak the fuck out about it and

[00:52:23] And I don't want to deal with it

[00:53:29] But it definitely seems to be mostly the onus is on the visibly shaking boyfriend who seems to hate women or something.

[00:53:32] It's, it's very strange his reaction.

[00:53:34] This like he said, like there's definitely more to this.

[00:53:37] Maybe he's the one that's questioning his gender.

[00:53:41] Like maybe he sees that.

[00:53:42] It was like, maybe like this is reading deep into it.

[00:53:45] What if he's like, he wants to be the big titty anime girl in soul caliber or whatever, doesn't see you as attractive and then their partner is playing games where you have attractive people all over the screen. It can make you feel very self-conscious about it. I don't think that's what's going on here. And as a matter of fact, I'm not really really responding to what you said. And I don't realize. Yeah. So I mean, that's really that's really it. Some of this stuff sometimes just goes down to

[00:55:02] self-consciousness also. He might have just, like I said before, had a thing in the past where Like every now and then like maybe once every feller four or five months someone's your own personal. Yeah Yeah, someone gets mad and they like they're like my OG Me bill should have been here three days ago and I don't have it and every time that happens like an old man's yelling at me about that physically I physically leave my body and I'm just watching from above like just watching this

[00:56:20] I have I have no more emotional connection with I just it's not a person to me anymore

[00:56:24] It is this is like a literal robot going through a script and I'm just like, uh-huh. Yeah, I'm sorry man you shouldn't be playing video games dude you shouldn't be doing you should wonder what games are they what is the other guy playing that never has a female character as the main protag that is another thing too it's like how is it just the female protag and only the but but no the guy only plays guys also and

[00:57:40] never women so it's like that I'm not gonna get back into this. Like every time I look back and I'm like, oh, what are you guys doing? Yeah, this is a, what were the replies? Did he? It was mostly if we just look at like the comments of what people were saying because most people say he's not an asshole, but they're like, they need to, you know, basically they calm down.

[00:59:01] They're like, what if you're reading a book

[00:59:02] and, you know, it was a female perspective?

[00:59:04] I'm not gonna re-question my gender.

[00:59:06] Yeah, it just no way of but in the same time we have no way of conceptualizing not being able to conceptualize that. You know what I mean? We have no way of knowing how a blind person thinks

[01:00:21] about perspective because they have a completely different worldviewling with like so many different podcasts and a lot of the podcasts I listen to are well

[01:01:45] I was gonna say from podcasters duh do all that for you. And usually there's some kind of catch where after so many downloads they're going to do something to you and hold you for ransom. It's like a new year. Yeah, it's like Unreal Engine or what's the other one? Unity where they're like, yeah, you can make your game. But once it gets popular, it belongs to us now.

[01:03:00] Type deal. So we use that a lot. And we actually made a lot of friends through they have a which means these guys have not gone and download in a while, which is kind of sad because I think some of them might be dead, but that's just the nature of it because podcasts pop up and die very fast. Yeah, that was listening to a thing that was talking about it randomly. They were like, if you get past like the fucking 10th episode, you're probably going to last a long time because that's usually by the time that people realize it's hard and then they quit.

[01:04:21] So are other tools we use?

[01:04:24] We've talked about it before, but Zincaster, every time we were talking directly to him so that there was no confusion. Cause I didn't remember what the fuck he said. I don't remember what I said five minutes ago. So. Other tools we use. Uh, I'm not a sound engineer. So to try to clean up my audio as best as I possibly can. I use, I originally used OBS as like a pass through, which that's, uh, I don't

[01:05:42] even know what OBS stands for.

[01:05:43] It's like a free streaming open. Mine's probably even like overkill for what we do. And then I just have generic gamer headphones. When everybody got over there. I don't know. This is a gift, right? Yeah. The microphone was a gift from Nick and it's probably a pop-up. It's one that comes up. Yeah, and I was using the microphone from that. And we were running Zincaster through Microsoft Edge on my Xbox One.

[01:08:20] And I was reading it from my TV.

[01:08:22] Yeah, for a year.

[01:08:23] Yeah, that was so funny.

[01:08:24] When my computer died, I had to do something.

[01:08:27] And we ran on Xbox. those are terrible. And then eventually, I think we had the elder trolls on. I can't remember who pointed it out, but then I got roasted for like 15 minutes after that. Because like Dave's stupid ass really doesn't know what he's doing. We're not audio dudes. It's funny because the elder trolls, they actually, I think like two of them do audio work, which is even funnier. Yeah, I think one of the elder trolls actually helps Friday

[01:09:43] night game guests with their stuff. So yeah. So next do, we take so much inspiration from all kinds of different directions, right? And like even down to the structure of our show, I was heavily inspired by sacred symbols with the fucking fucking off for the first half of the show and then talking about what people are actually tuning in to here for at the second half. But it's like we made the first part so much our own fucking thing that people, a lot of the people I talk to,

[01:12:04] on Sunday usually and then we upload our episode on Friday so by the time we're done talking about the news news news there's like eleven more stories it's

[01:12:08] old news now that we're talking about it and so it's like we need to need a

[01:12:12] fucking can that like that we'll talk about whatever we want to talk about and

[01:12:16] if it happens to be the news then yeah we'll talk about that but I think that's

[01:12:20] most important like don't commit to anything take inspiration like

[01:12:24] liberally and also talk about what you symbols they talk about the games they've been playing then they talk they do like right and which we used to have right and I had to work hard to get right and so it's like I don't like I don't have time to work super hard for this anymore if people write in.

[01:14:42] And I tried really hard to change and experiment. Like you said with the AI, the asshole type stuff.

[01:14:45] Like one thing that I thought was cute notice is like,

[01:14:49] I save all our old versions of the notes every time

[01:14:51] I make a change.

[01:14:53] And so we're on version six of our podcast notes

[01:14:56] in less than the two to three years we've been doing this.

[01:14:58] So it's like the show has gone through heavy revisions

[01:15:01] as far as how things are lined up,

[01:15:03] how we're gonna proceed through our structure I deal with people to ask questions. Yeah. But of course they do the terrible things where it's all about self suck and stuff like that. Like how can I suck my own penis? Like they mentioned with that like every week. They're like, we got another new one on the self suck thread. So a lot of inspiration from the corner long time ago some black guy made a gay parody of the rock who did a rap And he made it's all about dick. It's all about penis And made their name gay disturbed be like

[01:19:03] And then now the meta is a bunch of podcasts. We talked about like all those people I reached out to for like the cross promotion stuff. I reached out to like over a hundred people probably like so many different shows. And I made sure to listen to it because otherwise no one's gonna know about your show if you don't tell people about it. No one's gonna listen to it. Yeah, that's the weirdest thing too, is that like I really don't talk about my show a lot. And but people I've said this multiple

[01:20:22] times people come over to my house and they'll see'll message me every now and then and just be like that you are unhinged I just want you know the fucking things you put Philip there subtypes when you're explaining So I think it was about me getting kicked out of the of the of the concert

[01:23:02] God well, it's like if we look at it back like it took us three months as we went from 58 downloads to 266 downloads. So I don't know what exactly change, but just in three months, we actually started getting decent traffic. And I think anyone could do it. That's the weird part is like, we're not special. Do you feel doing it, the trajectory. We're going to get the trajectory. To the moon. Yeah, that didn't happen. And it's not going to happen. We're going to have up months and down months and all kinds of stuff in between. And I think that you just need to always be grateful for the people that give you your time. A lot of people, I think most of the people that

[01:24:20] listen to our show in the first year or the second year

[01:24:22] probably don't listen to our show still.

[01:24:24] And then we have this tide of people coming in and going You've probably been on like 20 different shows I have a play I was literally on Aaron and Tommy super pot saga. I think the sixth time the last time I was on it Oh, you probably more than you probably almost done like maybe 50 or 60 appearances on just other people shows Indeed, I have 44. I have a playlist on Spotify 44 episodes. I was gested on

[01:26:43] start guessing on other people's shows or get people on your shows. Podcasters are some of the nicest people I've ever met.

[01:26:45] I don't think I've ever met an asshole.

[01:26:48] Yes.

[01:26:48] As far as like genuine.

[01:26:50] So let's get into kind of the real nitty gritty monetization and effort

[01:26:55] because our show does have patrons that supported.

[01:26:58] And I think it's important to keep this out in the open.

[01:27:00] We're not, I don't know, trying to make weird money moves with the cash or whatever.

[01:27:05] We're spending it on the show or on games for the show. like Dear listeners, this is something you really want to strive for if money is important to you because money is important to me. I mean, I don't expect to make anything from this, but if I can, fantastic. So we've done 144 episodes so far, Dave. Totally to 238 hours of audio content, not counting this episode or any other.

[01:28:20] So we've recorded real recently.

[01:28:22] It shows my hold on. Is that a pun? I don't know if long bets have wings. I don't know what a long bet is. It has the word bad in it But it's like you gotta we're gonna have to wing it For a lot of it But like so much the more prep you do you got to realize that's the more time you're putting into this thing as much as I talk about Oh, I don't do anything. It's like there are weeks sometimes where I'll have we'll record once and I'll guest on two episodes in a week

[01:29:42] And I feel it. I'm also feel like it is so weird because at this point, we're not beginners anymore. I have a lot of ideas of where I want to branch off and do other shows or like other podcast ideas. I don't have time with it because I have a family. So I'm not going to start another podcast whenever I'm barely able to keep this one running. I know it doesn't look like a dear listener because we're pretty consistent, but that some days I don't know

[01:31:02] if there's going to be an episode coming out on Friday.

[01:31:04] Yeah, there's a there's sometimes where it like, if we're gonna do this, we gotta consistently do it. I refuse. Like Phillip was doing, at the first year, one of the things you wanna do is like, why don't we just re-upload an episode

[01:32:21] that when we guessed it on someone?

[01:32:22] And some people actually gave us the fucking raw file

[01:32:25] that we would, they were like, yeah, sure, re-upload it.

[01:32:28] It's insane.

[01:32:28] I didn't expect that's me. That was me. Did you see that fucking YouTube video? The guy he was taught, I think he was reading a Reddit post, but it was somebody who would race his little brother's ghost on Mario Kart that had never went. Yeah. No, it was like a little brother. Yeah. And he

[01:33:43] would never one. You're right. Yeah. So star of the parade. And that's the hero of the week is that dog. Great. I know that now. So, Stephen. All right. Besides that, I thought we'd kind of just talk about some different ideas about like give the listener kind of like a little workshop of how to build their

[01:35:02] own podcast if they like, oh, I want to make a podcast, but I don you a chance to admire the things that you really enjoy in a level. Everyone's Halo series. It's has so many games as books. It has comics. It has moonies. It has a TV show. We could do an episode by episode of Master Cheeks and just talk about it like, oh man, I can't believe they did this and they ruined the cheeks or whatever.

[01:36:20] Like I feel like that would be such a great it is a lost episode right now Which was our was gonna be our patreon side show kind of replacing listening together But it's it was focused on fighting games to listen

[01:37:41] Yeah, since it hasn't been released yet or really some of patreon or anything

[01:38:43] me. And just like the kids will watch it. Whatever. It was like Digimon. They just put it out there to sell toys. But it's also, I think, so interesting because there's so

[01:38:49] much Pokemon backing and lore in the games to go off of, but the show just does its own

[01:38:54] fucking thing all the time. Like the great Pokemon race. They're like, there's some

[01:38:58] part in any of red or blue, whatever you're racing Pokemon. And they're like, Oh, was

[01:39:05] a pony toss flames don't burn you if it likes you or your friend or something like thought that was real Yu-Gi-Oh playing. God damn it. Oh, you. So that was the four kids, the anime dub and the guys have the guns and they show up. I'd kind of point at them, but in the anime American version, they're just pointing at them with their feet. Cause they can't show guns on a kid's show in America class.

[01:40:24] Oh, you got other ideas for pods?

[01:40:27] Brainstorm.

[01:41:26] one I was thinking about. So in my Japanese learning, I frank with the subreddit learning Japanese a lot. Don't give me started on Japanese learning. That's a reds, I'm getting heathens

[01:41:31] and talking. You don't want to go to that one. You want to go to learning Japanese, not

[01:41:38] the Japanese learning one. And there's so. And I always wonder like, because I listen to the natural Japanese ones that is like literally Japanese people talking about like video games and I can't understand a goddamn thing they're saying. But then I listen to like, Hey, beginners, Japanese, welcome to Japanese class or whatever.

[01:43:03] And they're like, the, the woman goes to the market and when I'm like, yeah, she does.

[01:43:08] Like, yeah. is unique about you, you know? What do you uniquely know about or like are interested in and then just form something around that? Like I think I was talking, I don't know where I was talking about this too, but like a lot of the YouTube channels I watch are like just homunculus of two people's favorite things won't throw them together, you know what I mean?

[01:44:20] It's like slow mo guys.

[01:44:22] They're like, I like to break shit.

[01:44:23] Well, I have slow mo camera.

[01:44:24] What if I was slow mo camera does breaking shit?

[01:44:27] And then that was just it for a long time a good tip as well. Like solo podcasting is real tough. We know people have done it like Keith from main quest, but finding a partner really takes a load off. Like I've thought about like, man, I don't know how we could ever bring a third member in on the pod at this point, because we're such like a duo. Yeah, it'd be difficult. It'd be real hard. Like just finding like scheduling for the two of us is insane. So I think like

[01:45:43] two people's probably the prime number you need for a podcast for a conversation.

[01:46:45] That was pretty good. I don't know. I forget it's been here. Man. I haven't thought about them in a minute I don't know if they're still around. I know they post about stuff, but I don't do they still make episodes

[01:46:51] Where's Twitter? I lost my Twitter. You know, we can always phone this out like let's see what Chad GPT has to see about it

[01:46:58] Yeah, I'm some podcast ideas

[01:47:01] True crime with a twist explore true crime stories, but at a unique angle such as analyzing the psychology behind the crimes