G&C Podcast - Episode 212: Webkinz: Our Time With The Virtual Pet Craze!

[00:00:00] Hey everybody! On this episode of Gaming Collecting, me and Alex are going to be looking into the world of Webkinz, the old MMO game created by Gans, talking about some of our memories from it as kids, and going over some of the weirder things that happened around this series. It's a strange tale. It honestly goes deeper than you'd think. But anyways guys, on with the episode.

[00:00:25] So how have you been?

[00:00:47] I wanted to say a quick thanks for the concern and the nice well wishes in the server. Because I think the last episode I talked about quitting my job. Yeah, you kind of just like dropped it. Which is scary. You kind of just hard dropped it and then didn't acknowledge it after and a lot of people were like what?

[00:01:12] Yeah, I quit my job. I guess I can just say that like, I mean I said in the server a little bit, there was a lot of stuff going on. I work in a very difficult, I work in a very difficult job. I work in continuous improvement. And unfortunately it's one of those things where everyone has to be on board in order for it to be successful. And I wasn't getting that and I didn't want to waste my time anymore.

[00:01:41] It wasn't worth the frustration. Yeah, it doesn't help to hear that most industries that you work in are full of fossils that are adverse to change. So yeah, unfortunately with the company that I was at, it won't it just with the current mindset, it just won't work. And unfortunately, it's one of those things where every person, every seminar I've been to, every book I've read, every single thing says one thing. It has to come from the top.

[00:02:12] And unfortunately, the management didn't want to do the work and it would never work, which is frustrating. But you know, I think I'll be fine. Oh God, did you see that? You have a raccoon in your house, yes. Yeah, you'll be able to spot the raccoon. This is a video version too, because I did have an interview today, which went good. So I'm feeling good about the future. I'm not really too worried.

[00:02:41] I can get by a month without anything. And if I can't find anything, then I will figure shit out. But I'm not too worried. But it's a little scary. But at the same time, I have a very caring mother. Thank you, mom. Who's going to just help me out this month. And I have a dingleberry who's just really happy. She loves that I'm home. Not going to last very long though for her. But yeah, life update. I'm doing okay. Don't worry about me.

[00:03:12] I'll let people know if I need help. But I don't. I'm fine. I'm doing good. Yeah. Yay. Yeah. Oh, but you want to hear something funny though? Talking about interviews. This is the thing I was going to mention before. This is a video. So you can see I have a Psyduck behind me. But then behind the Psyduck is a Miss Jingles. Yes.

[00:03:41] And the person I'm interviewing with tomorrow, it's supposed to be a phone interview. So I pulled it all off because I was like, I don't know, because this is where I'm going to do my interview. And I was like, hmm. I feel like I should get rid of the two weird things. But I was going to hide them in this corner over here. And now I know that like. It's still being shot. So I'm going to have to put them in the mall. So they don't think I'm fully insane. Just put them in the corner.

[00:04:11] So then it's like I tried to hide them, but I forgot. I know. That was my plan. And you know, the sad part is I would have gone on the call and just been nervous. So I wouldn't have even focused on it. But I'm sure they would have seen it. So thank God it got rescheduled. It was originally supposed to be today. And then it got rescheduled. At least the phone portion. It got rescheduled to tomorrow. So I should totally like go to one of the Zoom meetings for the condo complex with just this background.

[00:04:41] We both should. We should just sit there. But then like just have two beers and just like actively try and cheers with each other on the Zoom screen. So that would be so funny. Just I just imagine it pops up and just fucking weave city back there. And I'm just like, yes. You're like, and then you should like wear like a hat that has like anime on it. And a shirt. Like get one of those gross like waifu ones. See, I don't want to own any of that stuff.

[00:05:09] Like I don't have really any figures that are extremely sexual. So what do you mean? Jeff Gordon's right there. That's very sexual. He's he's hanging with your over there. It's OK. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. What what other life updates do you have? It's been snowing a lot around here. I don't know if we talked about that, but it's not tonight. Yeah, I drove.

[00:05:37] They didn't plow my driveway because they decided to do plowing at four in the fucking morning while everyone's sleeping. And they're all like, we need you to move your cars so we can plow the driveways. And I'm like, you showed up at four a.m. Everyone's asleep. And then I go. I think their intention is to like do the roads at that time and then like finish the rest there. So then I go, I see them plowing driveway.

[00:06:06] So I put I cleaned off my car and left for like an hour, drove around, came back. They didn't plow it. I was like, by that point, I was so annoyed. I just said, fuck it. And just parked. And I said, I don't care. And I just left. So that's why I still have snow in it. It's probably well, it's not again, but it'll probably go away at some point. It'll probably. Well, normally it's funny because then during the week they do it. Well, everyone's at work. So it's like, yeah. Yeah, well, during the week, it's easier, you know, for them.

[00:06:35] But I've just been keeping my car in my garage just because, I mean, I'm not really leaving my house that much, trying not to spend any money, trying to be very smart. So I've just been leaving in the garage. But I also need to probably get my windshield fixed because I have a big old cracky boy across my windshield. Yay. But State Farm Insurance. State Farm Insurance. Yeah. They'll cover glass.

[00:07:03] Safe flight repair, safe flight replace. Safe flight repair, safe flight replace. Bill, what are you drinking? The same thing I've drank in every episode we've done. Where is it? Where is the music? Thank you. You can't talk about it until the music is playing. Too much bass there. No, it's more bass.

[00:07:32] It's a sparkling ice. This time it's black cherry flavored. It's the same exact thing I've drank in every week. All right. Give us some facts. Still got bubbles with benefits. That sounds bad. Benefits. Ooh. Low calorie, caffeine free. Have fun. You know, that's something for Bill. I will take. What would you rate it?

[00:08:00] On a scale of one dingle dew with a bunch of cat layers stuck to her ass? Because that happened today. 15 dingle do's. Woof. Cat layers stuck to their ass. What would you rate it? I'll rate it seven murderous Dr. Quacks. Anyways. What? All right. We'll take it. So is that good? Sure. All right.

[00:08:31] Aren't you going to ask me what I'm drinking? What are you drinking? Well. Bill. I'm drinking something new. Oh. Something that we'll talk about next. Because we didn't talk about our Costco run. But I got this at Costco. Oh, yeah. My Costco run where I got screwed out of money because Costco sucks. Anyways. No, it doesn't. You just Costco'd wrong. Don't knock Costco. They don't up the price of those dogs.

[00:09:01] But anyways. I am drinking an Izzy. Sparkling. Strawberry. Flavored. Juice. Beverage. And sugar. No artificial sweeteners. But apparently it's been spiked with alcohol.

[00:09:29] No, there isn't. This is just me. Are you sure? Yes. I've been drinking these during the day. So I sure fucking hope not. They're flavored from concentrate and other natural flavors. 70 calories per can. So it's a little high. But they're tiny cans. So you only have like one a day. And you're good. 70 calories isn't that much. Yeah, it's fine. 8.4 fluid ounces.

[00:10:00] 248 milliliters. This contains 60% juice. What is the other 40%? What is it? The serving size is a quarter of a can. Just kidding. It's the whole can. Why would they say a quarter? Calories are 70. There's zero fat. Zero percent sodium. Zero. Six percent carbs.

[00:10:30] Zero protein. No protein. What else would you like to know? Yeah, to get your protein, you gotta eat the can. Just kidding. Oh, I forgot they could see me. Oh no. Yeah, this is a video for this shit. What else? I mean, like, it's a good time. It's good. Give me a rating scale.

[00:10:56] How many killer skunks from the toilet out of 10? I would give it a 9. It's pretty good. These are pretty good. This one is my favorite flavor. They have a green apple one, and that's real good. I love me a green apple flavor. Woo. Yay! You want some more facts? I can give you some more. Music's over. No more facts. Reback.

[00:11:24] Anyways, talk about the Costco experience. That was not well thought out. No, we went on Super Bowl fucking weekend, and holy fuck, people are psychotic. Yeah, we didn't think that through. And also, I got one of those cash back reward things. Nowhere on it does it say you couldn't use it in self-checkout. I'm just saying, like, void. Spent way more money than I kind of fucked myself in terms of funds for a while. So, great.

[00:11:53] Well, save it and use it next time. That would require me to go back to Costco, and I hate going to Costco. Because every time I go, it's always hell. Well, it was especially worse, because we went on the Saturday before Super Bowl Sunday. I got run into by the same person three times. I see. It just depends, because I ran into this nice older couple, and I was getting my tissues, and I was struggling to put them in my cart, because I got...

[00:12:22] I buy tissues, toilet paper, and paper towels in bulk, because I like to be stocked. And I was struggling to get into my cart, because those are in bulk, so they're a lot in the cart. And I was like, oh, sorry, let me move out of the way, and you can go buy. And they were like, no, no, take your time. You're doing just fine. And I was like, thank you. And I went to my Costco. That's different than me trying to look in one of the freezers, and the person behind me is in such a fucking hurry

[00:12:49] that they're right up my ass, and they run into my ankles. And then I look back, and I'm like, really? That was the one thing I want. Then you move off. Then I move forward, and they did it again. And I gave them the look like, are you serious? That's when you take the carriage. Then the third time, I was just like, I ain't fucking moving. You're going around me, bitch. I'm like... I was just like... I'm like, once... Once, fine. It happens. Once it's an accident. Twice is on purpose.

[00:13:19] No, twice is on purpose. Three times, you're just fucking incompetent. Like, how did you get... How did you get there? I couldn't even get in the frozen section, because I wanted to get in bulk sweet treats. Because sometimes, at the end of the day, I want a sweet treat. And I couldn't get there. It was too crowded. So I ended up back there. It's amazing how much my shopping will change if an aisle's too crowded. Like, I will go... I'll look down an aisle. And if it is a fucking shit show, I will literally just be like, I don't need that that bad.

[00:13:48] And I'll just keep going. I had to... It was funny. I had to return... When Mom and I went to New York, we went to this store called Alice and Olivia, which Mom had only bought online. And it's beautiful. It's beautiful clothing. Like, it's gorgeous stuff. But it's also hella expensive. So our mother graciously bought me a sweater from there that was very expensive. And it came in.

[00:14:18] And then I, like, went to go try it on. And then I saw a big hole in the shoulder. And so we ended up returning it. And I got the new... Like, I literally got the new one, like, the next day. And I wore it for my interview today, too. It was real cute. Thank you, Mom. But during that adventure... Well, during that adventure, one, I realized that if they give you a FedEx ground label, you can't bring it to the post office. Like, the dumbest that I was. So I brought it to the post office. You need to bring it to FedEx. I was like, fuck.

[00:14:47] So then I found a FedEx place, which I found one. And it wasn't difficult. So I did that. But then I ended up stopping at the store. Or in a Southfield. Our little grocery store. Oh. Should we... Should you blurt that? Should you... Yeah. Fuck. Well, anyway. To our local grocery store. I won't say. Even though I already said. Fuck. And I ended up getting some Klondike bars.

[00:15:15] What would you do for a Klondike bar, Bill? Get something else. How fucking dare you? That Klondike bars are good. Not in the middle of winter. Like, that's the last thing I want right now. I like ice cream all year round. I will eat ice cream. All day, every day. On the last day on Earth, guess what I'm eating? Ice cream. All fucking day.

[00:15:44] I don't give a shit. Yeah. Alex is just the last day of Earth. Is just in a coma in her house. Like, I ate too much ice cream. Having like this major brain freeze. And like, I fucking love ice cream. No. Yeah, I'll eat. You'll just be in the bathroom the entire time. Because your lactose will just be like. I ate lactose in the dollar. Winter is actually the key time to eat a Klondike bar. You want to know why? Because the chocolate doesn't melt all over your hands. Oh, it still does for me. It doesn't as much.

[00:16:14] Well, I like wrap it in the wrapper. And then I kind of eat around that. And then like until there's like nothing left. And then I just go. It's too much work. No, I'm strategic about it. I like to. This is weird. I like to take the chocolate. I like to pick it off. And just eat the chocolate. With their serial killer tendencies over there. I don't know. I mean, I guess I have some. Like, you know, it's like some.

[00:16:43] Like, someone told me that like if you don't lock. Like, lock your car like three times. You're a serial killer. But like. Like eight times where you're like. Beep, beep, beep. But they beep, beep. But I can't. Because that's how my auto start works. So everyone probably thinks I'm a psychopath. When I just go lock. Alex. The people who do that are probably serial killers. Let's be real here. Nobody does this stuff. I thought. I've seen people do. I don't know. Poll. Everyone. Let us know how many times you lock your car. I don't. I don't.

[00:17:12] I don't think people. I don't think people watch how you like. Lock your car and think that person's a serial killer. Well, what are some serial killer tendencies, Bill? What are things you would describe a serial killer to do? Picking the chocolate off a Klondike bar. You know what serial killer tendencies? Having a forward range. Just kidding. There's a lot of us out there. I'm kidding.

[00:17:42] It's only Bill. Actually, I'm going to Google it. Do you eat pizza with a fork? Are you one of those people that eats pizza with a fork? It depends on the situation. It depends on the situation. Okay? Because sometimes, like, remember the pizza you got at the local restaurant that we like and it was really floppy? Sometimes, if it's too floppy, it's just falling apart everywhere. You should go at it with a fork. Because at that point, it's just pizza soup or something.

[00:18:11] You need something to eat it. That's when you turn it into a taco. Because that's the only way you can eat it going forward. Oh. Oh. Well, yes. But, like, even that there's some points where you can't even taco it, though. You know? Like, it's just so floppy. That you can't. I'm looking up funny serial killer tendencies. What is your serial killer? Oh. Oh. Oh, no. Goodbye, Reddit.

[00:18:41] Oh. What? Well, I tried to go on Reddit. And then, like, I'm not logged in on Reddit on my computer. And then it says, like, this is an 18 plus area. I was like, ugh. What did I click on? Oh. It's like whenever you click on a cosplayer's page. And you're like, oh, this is a cool cosplayer. And it goes immediately NSFW. And you're like, mm-hmm. I see. Oh, and then there's the OnlyFans link.

[00:19:04] I'm going to not Google this because I just made the realization that the government agent watching me is probably listening in. Hello. He's already crying because he has had to listen to everything we just did before this. He already gave up. So we're fine. What do you mean? What do you mean? Bill, ask side of the question. Why haven't you fixed your... You know what your serial killer tendency is? I got one.

[00:19:31] The fact that you can actively see that that 3DO sign is crooked and you won't fucking fix it. Fix it! Oh, yeah. So speaking of Reddit, I like to every now and then, like, browse the mildly infuriating subreddit. Well, have you posted about me in there? No. Or would I just be infuriating?

[00:19:59] No, I like to look in that subreddit because half the shit people post in there isn't even that bad. Or it's like, this is more than mildly infuriating. Like, someone posted they had to clean up poop. Like, human poop today. And I'm just like... I'm like, first off, that's illegal. Your employers can't tell you to do that. But second off, that's not mildly infuriating, sir. That's like a lot infuriating. That's like, ew, no. I'm not doing that.

[00:20:28] My favorite one is I saw one today. It was like, they were like, Door Dasher left my cookie order in front of Random House and I don't know where it is. And all the comments are like, yeah, they just stole it and they just had to take a picture so they could say they delivered it. Oh. Well, the best was they were crumble cookies. And the top comment was, and this is how the cookie crumbles. And I was just like, I'm like, yes. Have you ever been to crumble? No, because I don't really...

[00:20:57] I'm not a huge cookie person. These aren't like normal cookies, though. Like, do you know how crumble works? I've heard they're expensive as shit. Well, yeah. Well, the thing is, is you get like the bundle and you share it with a bunch of people. But the thing is, is that like, the thing about crumble that's fun is they change their menu every week. So every week it's a new different couple cooks. They always have like, they always have the milk chocolate. I'm on the website now. They always have the milk chocolate one.

[00:21:26] Like, that one's always standard. But like, so this week they have chocolate covered strawberry, molten lava, Valentine's M&M's, pink sugar. Why'd you make me out of lava? Shut up. You need that as a sound bite. Valentine's confetti. And then they also sometimes do like a cake. So they have a strawberry cake. It's great. I fucking love crumble cookie. It's great. I mean, they're expensive.

[00:21:54] And like, also, you can only eat one of those. Honestly, you should only eat like half of a cookie. I think you gave me one once and I like was like, this is too much. Oh, yeah. You can only eat like half of one because like the calories on one cookie is like 2000. Like, it's insane. Like, it's insane. Another great one, though. They're delicious. Another great one, too, is like there's always that classic like neighbor puts out cones so he always gets a parking spot.

[00:22:24] They're just complaining about it. And like the top comment is always, yay, free cones. Yeah. At that point, like just move them. Like if you're so mad, just move them. Like what? You'd be amazed how she'd be amazed how people are afraid of the cones. Like people see cones and they go. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, cool.

[00:22:44] I mean, like I can understand why people do it like in the cities because I remember visiting my friend in Boston and like some of the parking like I was like, holy shit. Like she had a driveway. But some of the sections I drove through, I was like, fuck, like I understand why these people like fight for these spots because like if not, you'll have to park like really far away.

[00:23:06] If you had a bunch of cones, you could probably like go to a parking lot and just like make like a fucking obstacle course and people would seriously probably go through it because they'd be afraid of the cones. Yeah. Or they probably block like a bunch of the parking spots and like probably avoid parking there. The one I saw. I'll say after. I'll say after. Okay.

[00:23:28] The one that I saw, though, that spoke to me the most was it was a person complaining about how the preview they still get the previous tenants mail all the time in their house. Yeah. And they put a label on the on the mailbox saying not to deliver this stuff, which everyone was like, yeah, the mail person does doesn't give a shit. It's their job to deliver it no matter what. Like if it has the address, they're going to deliver it. They do not care. Because it's not their job to care. Yeah.

[00:23:52] But I'm sitting here thinking like, yeah, I've been living that I get not only the previous tenant, but I also get the previous tenant before them's mail. And from what I've read, you can go to the post office and tell them to change it and like stop it, but they will never do it. Like you just literally. They can't manage to look for that, unfortunately. Well, also, apparently to change an address with a post office, you need ID and I don't have the person's ID. So it's like.

[00:24:21] Yeah, basically, I've asked them twice and it didn't happen. So I've just given up and I just toss everything now, which is apparently you're not supposed to do, but I don't give a shit. I just always like I always have like a pen or something in my car and I just always bring it with me whenever I get mail. And then I just like put return to sender on it and I put it back in the mailbox. You should do that for now. So the reason why I stopped doing that was I got one one letter that I wrote return to sender does not live here.

[00:24:51] I got it back the next day. So I wrote it again. Oh, with the return to sender on it. Oh, yeah. I legit did this four times to the point where I was like, apparently you're supposed to cross out the barcodes so they can't send it again. Oh, but I was like after a while I was like, how many times can I get away with this? Like just to keep writing it. I covered the letter in it like the return to sender does not live here and they just kept delivering it. So eventually I just said, fuck it. I don't care anymore. This is it's not worth my effort.

[00:25:22] So I don't think they're coming for their mail. I toss some of like the stuff that's like like clothing stuff or stuff that's like it usually says the name or current. I'll toss that anything else. I'll just put I haven't run into that issue, but. Oh. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But anyways, what was I going to say? I was going to say something. Oh. What were we talking about? Mildly infuriating.

[00:25:51] Yeah, but it had something to do with. Cookies. No. Cones. I think I had to do with the cones. Oh, damn it. I can't remember. I had something. Oh, well, I lost it now. I don't know where it went. That's fine because it's going to come back like as soon as we finish recording. I'll be like, fuck. I feel like it probably wasn't that important.

[00:26:20] But if you couldn't tell by my little hints I gave earlier with the little with my ratings during the water bottle section, we're actually talking about Webkinz today. Ew. Webkinz. You were addicted to Webkinz, Alex. It was so fun. I'm just joking. You had 30. So for those who don't know, Webkinz is. Yes, please describe Webkinz.

[00:26:49] It is essentially baby's first MMO in a lot of ways. It's a virtual pet. Our online MMO. And the whole gimmick was you bought these stuffed animals and they came with a little code. And then you would type in the code on the website and you would get to play in this world and you could build a house, play mini games, talk to other characters with an unfiltered chat. It was great.

[00:27:18] That changed. Also, if your name was Richard, you couldn't name your pet dick because they were like, no bad word. Yeah. Fun time. It's weird. Like the chat bot, like in game chat wasn't very well censored, but like, God forbid you name your pet dick. So, yeah. That's a sin, Bill. That's a sin. Yeah. But yeah, these things. Well, that's what happened when I tried to name my duck Richard.

[00:27:48] And then mom. Dickie. Dickie the duck. Mom. Why are you? Now his name is Ruben, which is a better name. But yeah. It's very, it's an interesting concept. It's very appealing to children and very unfortunate to parents who probably get suckered into buying these things because they weren't massively expensive from what I remember. I don't think they were super.

[00:28:17] I mean, I don't remember in all honesty. That would be a good question for mom. I, yeah. Cause you had way more of them than I did. I kind of lost interest after. Well. A bit. So I, so like the fun part of Alchem was that there was a whole bunch of different designs. And a whole bunch of different animals. And they consistently made new ones as time went on as well. Um, and they did have some that were like exclusive.

[00:28:43] Like I remember I had, I think it was either a frog or a cat that like was a Valentine's or it might've been dog. Maybe they had multiple. I don't know. Um, but like, it was like Valentine's thing and it came out around Valentine's and they were like cute. Um, but a lot of them, you know, the traditional like cat, dog, um, uh, bear, um, frog. It was like frogs because I had all of them.

[00:29:13] Um, you know, all the traditional animals, uh, like now I'm, I'm looking at their website. Well, I'm looking at the wiki now and there was, uh, apparently there was 1,339 different ones. So they made a lot more than when we had, but I know it had a pretty good amount. Uh, cause I, I remember vividly. I think we both, um, we're going to the dentist and I don't know if we didn't like the dentist, but, um,

[00:29:40] you didn't like the dentist cause anytime, anytime you had to go to anything medical, it was a traumatic experience. Well, I also think too, for me, what killed me with the dentist was, I don't think I always hated the dentist, but I had, um, I had a tooth growing in, uh, basically between like right below my nose. Um, like right between the middle of my lip, I had a tooth growing in and basically if they didn't, they had to go in and surgically remove it because if they didn't remove it, it would have just fucked up.

[00:30:10] My teeth. Um, and I have perfect teeth, no braces ever. Uh, I don't. I bill, but it's funny cause as a kid, you had very straight teeth. And as a kid, I had like really janky teeth. And then once we grew up, it was all different. So my, my upper teeth were always straight. My lower teeth have been jank forever. Nah.

[00:30:37] Well, anyways, anyways, but basically I had to get something removed. Um, I had to go through a big surgery and I was only like, I don't remember how old I was. I don't think I was, I think I was like 10. Uh, but I can't remember. I was young. Uh, and it was really scary. Like, cause they had to go in. Like I had surgery. Um, and after that point, I think I just didn't like the doctors very much after that. I mean, you still don't like the doctors. I still don't like them.

[00:31:05] I honestly, I can't remember if I, I feel like I woke up at one point and was like scared. And I can't remember vividly, but I remember waking up in the doctor's office and just like sobbing cause I hated it. Um, well in like the, I think it was the orthodontist actually. Um, but anyways, but for a while, like I've only give us like Webkinz and they were fun and probably really easy for parents, you know, cause they made a bunch of different ones. You could get your kid them.

[00:31:32] And the perk of it was like each one had a code on the ear. And once you had the code, you could go on the website and then add your character to the website. I wonder how many shitheads would go through and just take pictures of the codes. Cause they were just exposed right there. I'm like that. You can remember. I feel like probably at the time, not as much because at the time when these were like, I think peak big. Big.

[00:32:02] Um, like when we had them, I feel like was when they were peak, very, very popular. Um, and like, I mean, cell phones, I don't know if like, well, they were really popular. If they even took, if they took those, it probably went great. Uh, but also it just wasn't the time where everyone had a phone on them and like took photos of everything. Now I feel like I could see that happening and I'm sure they probably have some security measures now. Maybe. I don't know. I don't remember.

[00:32:30] I do remember back in the day, look, looking through the bin of webcans and I found a couple of missing ear, the ear tags. So yeah, that probably honestly was it instead. Um, but that was kind of the whole perk. You'd have the ear tag and you'd go in and they had a variety of different animals. They did have one animal that's kind of like a platypus, but they made it for the game. Um, uh, and it was the Googles. Do you remember the Googles?

[00:33:00] No, I don't remember much. They were basically here. I'll send you, I'll send you a link to it. The Googles were like a platypus slash duck. I'm sitting in the chat of here cause I can't pull up discord right now. Um, they were like a, what am I saying? Like a platypus, but it had no arms and it's basically just like a bowling pin. Yeah. It's a bowling pin.

[00:33:28] And, but when they walk, they like laid on their belly and basically just went in the game. Oh yeah. You, you had a couple of these. I had two of these. I had the white. I had a white one. And then I believe that there was a pink one too. And I had both, I had two boobles and I loved them cause they were the closest thing to a duck. I believe they did make, oh yeah. 2006 pets. This is probably. Okay. This categorize. Okay.

[00:33:58] I can, I'm going to look at this cause did you, I believe I had the alley cat. I think I had the chihuahua. You had the frog. I had like the tree frogs. I had a tiger. I had the Googles. Uh, I had a horse. I'm pretty certain. You had the big chihuahua. I had the mini chihuahua cause they had mini pets too, which was such a weird addition. But I was like, the little kids, the little kids. Yeah.

[00:34:26] They also had codes and could play in the game. I believe I had the pug. Uh, and I had the bunny and the poodle. I believe I had both the pink and the white poodle. I stopped caring by this point. You had so many more than I did. I had a bunch of them. Well, they were cute. I mean, I was a girl. I believe I still have. No, I don't know if mom gave them away. I have no idea. Donate them or gave them away.

[00:34:54] But they were, I mean, like there was a bunch of different options and there was more as you went on. Like you had the exclusive ones as you went on. But like, they were obviously like great gifts for kids. Yeah. And I remember too. I'm trying to see 2007. I think I might've had some. Oh, Clyde still. I had the Clyde still. Oh, you had the bullfrog.

[00:35:17] I had all the frogs because up until I had all the frogs up until around 2008. I want to say, because I stopped caring around eighth grade. Oh, I think I have the Siamese. There was a love frog. It's fine. The love frog. It's a big frog. Yeah, you did have that.

[00:35:46] I did have the love frog. I knew it wasn't a dog. I had the love frog. I freaking. Yeah. Cause he came with the love pond. Yeah. That was another thing too. So when you put them on the website, whatever animal that you had, you'd be given like a gift box as you came in. And it had like their favorite food. And then like an item that was specific to that character.

[00:36:11] So the only way to have that special item was to basically buy that web kit and have that character. And that was also one thing too, was like your Webkin's house had rooms for each of your Webkin's pets. Up to a point. After a while, they stopped giving you extra rooms whenever you had it. Oh, they did? Yeah. Cause I remember like. I forgot to that point. No, you did. Cause you were pissed about it. You were like, I didn't get a free room with this pet. Now I have to buy one. And I'm like, sorry.

[00:36:40] I'm like, that's nice. I probably. Yeah. That, that sounds about right. Like that. I was. Piss. Um. That would have been pissed. I was an angry child. No. The houses were so like. And they did have a duck. Yep. I always remember though. Cause like the houses like were. That was like the part I liked was making the house. Cause Sims fan, you know. Um. And you could just like, basically it was just like very simple square rooms. Like.

[00:37:09] And you just connect them by doorways. Like each wall had a door and you could just kind of go from room to room. Kind of like an animal crossing house in a way. But. Yeah. I think 2009 is when we stopped getting them. Sorry. I'm looking at the 2009. I don't recognize a lot of these. I definitely did. Cause I was in high school by then. Um. I think. I think I probably did too. Cause I don't. I didn't have any of these. So up until 2008.

[00:37:40] Yeah. And I remember like. You weren't in high school then. 2009. I was my first year in high school. What? When did you graduate? 2013. Shit. You're right. It was the end of 2009. That doesn't sound right. Yeah. I know. Oh my God. Sorry. I'm like not. Yeah.

[00:38:09] All of these don't look familiar. So. And I guess at that point too. I probably was like. Whoa. It's not cool anymore. My brother doesn't want to be more. Well no. No. What happened with me was. It wasn't that I lost. I thought. It's not that I. I mean. To be fair. Like I never really cared. What people thought of me. But um. What happened with me was. I just got more interested in RuneScape by that point. And I could only put focus my attention into one MMO. As opposed to the other. Yeah. True. Um. At the time. Webkinz was dumb. Where like.

[00:38:40] You would only get so many days. Basically to force you to keep buying like pets. You would eventually run out of um. Playtime. Unless you bought another pet. Hmm. And then it would reset the counter. I feel like they don't do that anymore. No. I think you just buy a subscription now. Like most. Well. I also think you can have a free account. Like you can. I remember at one point. At years ago. Like I was just like. I just want to relive my Webkinz experience. And this was before you had to download it. Because I didn't have to. Uh.

[00:39:09] But you could just make a free account. Like. And they just gave you like a cat. A dog. Cat or a dog. To choose as options. But you could make like a free account. Without actually having a Webkinz code. Hmm. I wonder if anyone ever just like. Gamed the system. And just would type in random codes. To see if something came up. Like in theory you could do that. But the probability would. Probably be like insane. Yeah. Just be funny. You just. You can.

[00:39:39] You do that. You completely jack some like. Five year old's fucking toy. Before you. Like. Oh man. You're just going. And taking a picture of all of them. Um. But anyway. So. We talked about. Like you. You. Everyone had your own house. You could have a bunch of rooms. But only a certain amount. I guess. Uh. I don't know if that's changed. You could have a lot of rooms. But you. You. You stopped getting a free room. With pets after a while. Oh. Okay. You have to pay for it. Sorry.

[00:40:09] I'm yawning. I'm tired. It's been a long day. Meh. Um. But other than that. One of the things. You could do too. Was visit. Multiple areas. Um. Like Dr. Quack. Yeah. We should just talk about Dr. Quack. No. We'll. We'll get to. We'll get to the. All right. Do you want to put him last? All right. Maybe we finish with that. But. Well yeah. We'll finish with the dark stuff. I think like. So there was like the Webkinz like park.

[00:40:36] And I believe that was one of the areas where you could go and chat with people. Um. At first. I'm assuming. Nobody wanted to talk. Like you could chat. No one ever did. Like. It's like any MMO nowadays. Like I played Brighter Shores recently. Uh. And. Which is a spiritual successor to RuneScape. And. I was trying to chat with people and nobody fucking was having it. I was like. Well this is fucking boring. Um. Yeah. Granted. Most people playing Webkinz don't know.

[00:41:05] Probably don't know how to chat. At the time. Nowadays. Yeah. Well. Because I think in the beginning. You were able to free type. But then. Eventually. It ended up turning into like a standardized menu. Of like. Standardized questions. You could ask. And people were probably just like. This is too much fucking work. Bye. Um. If I can't swear. I don't want to chat. Yeah. They. They got Habbo hotel. Then they were like. Yep. We can't. We can't let them have free speech. Nope. Um.

[00:41:36] And that was a big one. But there was other areas as well. One of my favorites was. Well yes. The mini games. But I was going to talk about. The employment office. Because you can't be out of work. In Webkinz. You have to make some fucking money. Uh. Kings cash. Uh. And I remember always going to the employment office. Because I believe there was a game. There was. And they were like little mini games. Where the jobs. I believe there was a restaurant one. Where you made burgers. I'm like certain.

[00:42:05] There was. Maybe not. Oh yes. There was. Hamburger cook. That was my favorite one. That was my shit. I was always the hamburger cook. I was just. One of the mini games. That you could win money from. Excuse me. Was literally just. Straight up. Puzzle. Like bust a move. Puzzle bobble. Oh okay. You're talking about the arcade though. Not the employment office. No. But you can still earn. Kings cash from the arcade. Well yeah. But the employment office. I'm just saying. Had. These were the jobs.

[00:42:35] You could be a babysitter. You could be Dr. Quack's assistant. Sometimes I would fuck around with that too. That was fun. You could paint. You could paint. I would paint. News delivery. Piano player. And shoe store clerk.

[00:43:04] I think some of these were added later. But I definitely remember. Miss Birdie. The post office. The hamburger cook. The fence painting. And Dr. Quack's assistant. I remember that. I remember doing. I remember doing the Miss Birdie one. And being like. What is this? Education? I don't want this shit. And I was like. I don't want it. I immediately noped out of that one. Granted I also had. The arcade. Also. Just a little fun fact. When I was in high school.

[00:43:34] And we did a typing. We did the typing exam. Like class. And like the little typing tests. I had the lowest score. In my entire grade. And it was amazing. Did you button mash? No. I tried. Well no. You had to do it. You had to do it. The proper typing way. Which I can't do for shit. Yeah. And I got literally. I got literally. The lowest score. In my entire grade. They were like. How are you this bad? I'm like. I'm like. Because you're making me type. This stupid shit. Like just let me do it my way.

[00:44:03] And I can do it faster. But yeah. Just another. Um. But yeah. There's the arcade. Which was basically. Just a mini game. Like it was basically. It wasn't like you could. It wasn't an area. You could walk around. Or anything. It was just a still screen. You could basically. Scroll through all the games. Uh. My favorite game. Wasn't a game. It was the wheel of wow. Do you remember the wheel of wow? Yeah. Because didn't you. That was how you got random.

[00:44:32] Free shit. Yeah. You just spun it. And then you got like. A random item. Or a cash bonus. And that was it. That was the whole game. It was great. You could only do it once a day though. Right? I love the wheel. Yeah. You could only do it once a day. See I would. There was one. Another one that. Go on. You go. I was going to say. The one that. The one that I would play constantly. Was there was one that was literally. Just bust a move. Slash puzzle that bobble.

[00:45:02] And I would just play that. Yeah. Because I'm like. Oh. I know this game. I'll play this. And that's how I made all my money. I think too. There was. Another one was. There was wishing well. Which I believe was. A slot machine. That was disguised. I think that one got. I'm pretty sure that one got removed. Well. There was wishing well too. So. Oh. It replaced wishing well. So I guess.

[00:45:32] Because they were like. Because they saw. Gambling in a kid's game. Can't have that. Another one that I really liked playing was. I believe it was like. Thwacky. Or wacky. Um. Let me see. I think this is it. I clicked on it. Oh. Oh. It's not there. Nothing's there. It's probably not. It had the little. Wacky hammer. Guy.

[00:46:02] Aw. Which was my favorite. You know what's really funny? On the Wikipedia page. There's an entire list of criticisms. Of the game. And they are funny as fuck. Like. Oh really? Really? Parents have raised concerns. Regarding children's use. And potential overuse. Of Webkinz toys. So like any computer game. Yep. Some parents have voiced concerns. Over the website's online chat system. And then the Kinz Chat. Kinz Chat Plus.

[00:46:32] Um. Some schools have expressed concerns. About the toys becoming a distraction. From education. Uh. Trust me. They're going to get distracted. No matter what the school's going. Um. Oh yeah. This has. Occasionally resulted into Webkinz. Being banned from school grounds. Yeah that happened. So we're Beyblade. So we're Tech Dex. So we're everything fun. Just like everything. Uh. Well you can't have fun in school anymore. Well yeah. Also my. My favorite. Um. My favorite was.

[00:47:01] Some users have voiced criticisms. With the once advertisement free site. Suddenly showing advertisements. I remember when the advertisements came in. Right around the end. And I was like. Oh that's weird. Yeah. Um. Well they gotta pay the bills somehow. Because after a while. Yeah. Oh and then there was a 2020 data breach. There was another. Like that's great. Oh. Great. Hopefully our information wasn't there at that time. Yeah at the time.

[00:47:31] What else? At the time. Uh. Do you want to get into the. The most infamous thing. With the series. No no. I still. I need to talk about something else first. My favorite location. In the game. Was the curio shop. Oh yeah. You remember the curio shop? Yeah. That's where you bought shit. But it was also. Gem hunt. Which was my favorite part. Because you basically went mining. Which I've just determined. Is my favorite part of any game. Is mining.

[00:48:01] For some reason. Oh. But it was run by Art Fact. He was like. A little dog guy. And he was always just like. Hey guys. What's up? You want to go. Find something at my shop? He was the best. I loved him. Um. You could buy rare items there. But then you could also do the. Uh. The gem hunt. Which. That was a daily. I think that was a once daily activity. To. Um. But you could go through. Um. Collect 30 gems.

[00:48:31] And then I believe like. You got certain items. Or rewards from them. But. Nice. That was my favorite part. That you had the flea floater mine. And the howling horse mine. Um. Um. And then once you found a gem. You could either collect it. And like. Have a collection of them. Or you could sell them to Art. For King's Cash. King's Cash. King's Cash. But he was my favorite. That was my favorite thing to do in the game. I loved going to the curio shop.

[00:49:01] Um. You could also go to school. I don't know if this was. When we were there. I don't remember ever doing that. So. Or maybe because I saw. The Kingsville Academy. I probably saw school and went. No. I hate school. Another fun stuff was the. There was the Webkin's Stadium. Because some of the arcade games. You could actually play. Head to head with other people. In challenges. I never did that. Um. I did a couple times. It was actually pretty fun. Like one of the ones.

[00:49:31] It actually makes me laugh. Thinking about it now. Um. Did you ever see like. The Roblox dress to impress? Like all those videos and stuff. Basically it was like a dress up thing. That they put into Roblox. Uh. And it was like. It's very. It was very popular. But basically. They had that in Webkin's. Where you dress up your Webkin's. In the clothing. And it had to meet a certain criteria. And then people would vote on the favorite. So. They stole it from Webkin's. I'm just saying. Whoever decided that. Like took it from Webkin's.

[00:50:01] I don't know if it still exists. But I remember playing that one. Because it was really fun. Because you played with a bunch of different people online. And voted on your favorites. So they totally stole that. Um. But anyway. We should talk about. The most. The most infamous. Infamous part of Webkin's lore. Yep. Which this happened peak. When we were playing. Webkin's. Yes. It happened. Famously in 2007. So right around the point.

[00:50:30] Where I started falling off. But you were at your peak. Of Webkin's. Um. So there was. A lot of rumors. About this game. Like internet. Like urban legends. And this was before. Like everyone had access to the internet. So it spread like wildfire. Yeah. Like this was something that spread word of mouth. Through our school. And everyone's school. Like this was a nationwide. Yeah. Worldwide. Phenomenon. Basically. There was a rumor going around. Um. Um. That.

[00:51:01] There was a character. Like in Webkin's world. That could murder your Webkin's. Why would they ever put this in a children's game? Whoever. Came up with this rumor. Is diabolical. Because there. I remember kids crying. Over the fact that the Webkin's might die. The best part was though. Like the lore behind it. Was amazing. Like there was. At first. It was. Supposedly inserted by. By a. A disgruntled. Employee. Who was fired.

[00:51:31] But then it later changed to. And it was in an infiltration from a rival site. Most likely Neopets. Like that was. That was like. Well. And didn't they say it was like a virus? And it was like. Then it became a virus. A black penguin with. With red eyes. I remember people saying that. This was the best part. The animal would always change. Whenever they told the story about it. Like it was. Yep. At first it was a monkey. Then it was a skunk. That's why I mentioned skunk in the toilet. Earlier.

[00:52:00] That it was like a. Duck. That it was a pan. It was like any time. It was always. But it was always a. Silhouette. Black creature. With like red eyes. And a knife. Yep. In a kids game. For kids. And the rumor had it. It would also. The thing that would always change was. It was. It was either. It would come out of the toilet. Or it would come out of. Some random game. Sometimes the wishing well. Sometimes they'll pond. Like random shit. Yep. Um. And it would just come out. And kill your web kid.

[00:52:30] Um. And I remember. Cause like. I remember what. Cause when you. You bought it. You obviously bought this at the time. Because you were like. Yeah. I was terrified. I was like. Oh my gosh. My web kids are gonna die. I was so sad. You were still. You were still gullible child. Who didn't know that. You don't trust everything you hear. Yeah. Cause I remember you came over. And you're like. Bill. Delete your toilet. And I'm just like. Why? And you're like. Cause an evil monkey. Will come up from the toilet. And kill your web kid. And I'm just like. Huh? Like. I was so. Just like. Alex.

[00:53:00] What's wrong with you? I deleted my toilets. I remember. No. I remember. You wouldn't leave me alone. Until I deleted my toilet. Good. I saved your web kids. That's why you never saw the killer. We had a. The best part was. Though. We had a press. We had like an. Like an assembly. Like. Or at least a mini assembly. At school. And they had to explain. That this wasn't a thing. It was completely made up. I mean. Like. That's how big it was though.

[00:53:29] That's how big web kids was. There was actually a thing on the website. For a long time. That was like. There is nothing in the game. That can hurt your web kids. See. My favorite was. There was. Then there was. Well. After the whole like. Evil animal killing things in your house. Rumor got dispelled. Then. The Dr. Quack rumor started. Yeah. Where. If you annoyed him. Too much. In his office. He would murder your web kids. During a checkup. Like. If you clicked around on shit too much. Or like. You poked him. Or like.

[00:53:59] Did stupid shit. Like. He would just murder your web kids. Did you test it out? I clicked around all over the place. Yeah. I did. I tested it out. If you type in web kids. And look through Google images. You will find like. Demonic photos of Dr. Quack murdering web kids. Because people. Oh yeah. Help themselves. Oh yeah. Because they had to fuel the fire. I like this one where. He's on like a podium stand. Like with a bunch of mics. Like they're being like. Did you kill him? Yeah.

[00:54:27] This one is very ominous. The whole. Everything about. I mean. Dr. Quack was kind of ominous. To begin with. So I. Honestly. If they had made the rumor around him. To begin with. I think it would have took off better. Because the whole fucking. The fact that they couldn't keep. Anything straight with the other. Do I want to know what I'm looking at? It's just creepy Dr. Quack. Yeah. That looks like. His eyes was very soulless. That looks straight out of. Doki Doki Literature Club. Anyways.

[00:54:57] Yeah. But like. I remember. The best part was though. We had initially thought. It was like an isolated thing. Around our school. Because I think they did blame it. On the person who started it. In our school. Yeah. No. I remember. I thought it was like very. But then it turned out to be this. Huge. Big. Yeah. Because. Here I see. Then years later. When YouTube takes off. I found a video cover. And I was like. Wait. This was a thing worldwide. Like what? Like I didn't realize. How big it was at the time. But yeah. It was like. Holy fuck. Like.

[00:55:28] Why. That's like my. It's hilarious. How common it is. For kids online stuff. To immediately get infested. With freaking like. Horror shit. But I think like. The fascinating part too. Is just the time this came out. And like. Just how it spread. Because like. I mean like. We were not on the internet. I mean they're. Like Reddit might have been a thing. But I don't think either of us were on it. Like. I don't think Reddit was. Very much there yet. If Instagram wasn't a thing. If it was.

[00:55:57] We didn't even have. We didn't even have Facebook yet. We were still on MySpace. What? I thought. Maybe. Maybe. I think we're going to have Facebook at this point. Facebook. Facebook didn't really take off around. Until like around 2009. 2010-ish. All right. Well. But like. This. Like. It's kind of crazy. How this spread. Because really. Like. The internet. I mean. There was a little bit that spread through the internet. But a lot of this spread through just word of mouth. Like. This was a rumor that mostly spread.

[00:56:27] By people talking about it. The internet wasn't as condensed as it is nowadays. Like. There was a lot of just random sites. Like. News boards. Like. Forums and shit. And. It just is really sad when the company has to put out a. Press release about. No. There's nothing in our game that murders your webkins. Please stop. I want to see if I can find that. I believe it. You can find screen caps of the little like. Message. Which is hilarious.

[00:56:56] Because one of the rumors was a monkey. And they used a monkey in the fucking press release thing. And I always thought that was horrifying. Dumb it. That's so dumb. Um. Yeah. God. That shit. That shit was crazy. That is. Oh. Here it is. Concerned about a rumor. Oh. Trying to see. Oh. Is this on their actual web. No. It's a top web page. Well no. It was. It was on the website. But this one. Um. I.

[00:57:26] I thought it was bringing me to their actual website. I was just trying to see what it said. I couldn't zoom in it. Uh. Many people. Have been writing. Asking about. A rumor. That is going. What is this? The English is bad. But yeah. I see the monkey basically. I see the monkey. I just love the fact that the immediate accusers were like. It was from a disgruntled employee. From a rival site. Probably Neopets. Neopets. Well yeah. Neopets really did die. Like.

[00:57:56] It was really popular. And then just like. I mean. Webkin. Webkin's kind of died too. Because then they made that new version. Which is. Ew. Ugly 3D. Yeah. When I went on the website. I was like. I was like. This is mad. And then. Yeah. I was going to try and play it. Right before this. But it's like most. Most. MMOs. Did I say that right Bill? Yes. It's like most of them. Where you have to download it now. And I was like. I'm not downloading this for one podcast.

[00:58:26] No thanks. I just didn't want to fucking do it. But I did see 3D. And I was like. Fuck that. You know what game. Kind of like. Came in and just replaced Webkin's. What? Club Penguin. Club Penguin. Club Penguin is dead though. No. Webkin's surpassed. Yeah now it is. Club Penguin. Oh yeah. Because Disney bought Club Penguin. And said. Fuck this. Closed it down. Then they replaced it with a. A 3D version similar to Webkin's. And everyone hated it. So they said. Okay. It's dead.

[00:58:55] Yeah. Well I like that on Webkin's. They give you the 3D option. But you can still play the classic version. Which is actually kind of nice. Every MMO does that now. They make a new version. And they're like. And when everyone hates the new version. They're like. Alright. We'll be happy. Because RuneScape has it with RS3 and Old School. I think there's WoW Classic. And current World of Warcraft. All sorts of stupid shit like that. Yeah. It's just funny. It really is funny looking back. Because this was a big part of our childhood.

[00:59:25] And I mean. We. It's cool looking back too. Because we really lived through. When this was the peak. Of its existence. Yeah. The hype. No. Yeah. I mean. Like. I remember there was that store. In our town we grew up in. And it was in like a. That plaza like across from the. Middle school. No. The elementary school. I don't know if the store is even still open. But it was like a gift shop. But they always had Webkin's. I remember mom and I going there. And picking out Webkin's.

[00:59:55] So. I have good memories with them. And. Just a quick. Thank you. To our mother. Who got us all those Webkin's. Because I'm sure they. I'm sure they. Probably weren't cheap. And you got us a lot of them. And we're really grateful. For everything that you do for us. Yes. Say something nice. Right now. Or I will go there.

[01:00:25] Oh. I forgot they can see me. I can't make weird fucking faces. Damn it. I'm recording with my face. We're never doing it again. No more. Except for the next episode we record. No. I'm going to have the. Picture of. Oh. Wait. Before we end it. All right. Before we end it. We need to talk about your updates. On what you're watching Bill. I started Attack on Titan. How far are you now? I finished season two. Have you started season three?

[01:00:54] I haven't had time. Watch it right now. You got to catch up. There's a movie coming out. So you need to watch it. Because Slade told me about it. I didn't realize there was a movie coming out. I'm going to watch more this weekend. When I have time. Finish it this weekend. Right. Now. Right. I'm almost done with Dragon Ball Z. Yeah. But you're. You have time. I don't. Literally. I don't have time.

[01:01:31] I don't have time. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Shichu was the only one that actually bought him. Yeah. Like actually did something. And then paid the price for it. Well. Krillin did. You have a coat. Ami and I got turned into chocolate. And then his family did. When Marin got turned into chocolate. I was pretty sad. Did you see that.

[01:02:00] The magical fighting candy. Yes. I'm a jawbreaker. The strongest candy of all. There's been some. The Majin Buu arc has been funny. Because like. Majin Buu is like funny. Like originally when he was a pink and chubby. Like the one in super. Is pretty funny. But then like also like. When he like. When he saved that puppy. I was like. I'm kind of. I'm kind of on board with you. You know what? I get you.

[01:02:29] We're connecting. It's like me watching. And then those stupid assholes. Had to murder the puppy. And then they murdered Mr. Satan. And I was like. You could have kept Mr. Satan dead. It probably wouldn't have been that bad. But. You know. He got him also back to life. See my. It's kind of like. When I'm watching Attack on Titan. And half the time. I'm like. I kind of side with the Titans. Honestly. Just the humans suck in this universe. Yeah. You have. Oh. You know.

[01:02:58] It's coming up in season three. Oh. You know about it? Well. No. But I just know like. Every season. It's a fucking mind fuck. Like they change. No. No. No. This one isn't even. It's not even mind fuck. You're just like. The fuck did I just see? I don't know. All I know is like. Any time. All I know is. Anytime a character dies. I felt nothing. Because I'm like. Oh well. I honestly feel like. Well. The next season. I mean. You know people are going to die. But the next season. I think.

[01:03:27] There'll be some more impactful ones. In season four. Definitely. The only character who died. That I was actually upset about. Was the old guard. From like. The second episode. Yeah. He was. He actually. Well. He was a recurring. Like most of the characters that die. We got like maybe two episodes with. Like. Like. We'll get into it. When we eventually do the attack on Titan episode. But when. Fuck. What's his name? Marco. No. No. He's. He's a lot. Oh Levi. When Levi.

[01:03:57] When Levi's team gets murdered. When the girl gets like fucking just face planted into the tree. And they cut down to her. And her face is just like. Every time they show it. I'm just like. She fucking did. Like. The way it was posed. Like her face is just smushed up. And I'm just like. She fucking did. And honestly. I would say some of the animation. Like the manga. Like from screenshots I've seen are more graphic. Also like. When like Levi's like. You have to dump the bodies. They're too heavy.

[01:04:27] And then the first one he throws off is her. And she's rolling backwards. I'm just like. Bye. Oh. And that's especially weird too. Because like. She had like feelings for him. And he's just like. Fuck you bitch. She was dead. Who cared. Yeah. Levi doesn't have a soul. At this point. Anyways. Oh. Well. I'm kidding. I'm being sarcastic. He's complicated. Well you haven't gotten to season three. Where you learn a little bit more. I know. I'm aware. I've been told I have to watch a couple OVAs.

[01:04:56] Before I watch season four. Yeah. I would definitely agree with that. We'll get into full once the episode comes out. But I know I'm going to get flack for like. My lack of care. For some of these characters. There's definitely somewhere. I agree. Like there's definitely somewhere. I was like. I don't really fucking care. But then like. Some of like the follow-up flashbacks. Or something. You're like. Oh. Damn. Like. I. I didn't care as much about. I agree. I didn't care much about Levi's team. But I actually. The one. Where you see the team.

[01:05:26] That gets basically. Annihilated by the Beast Titan. Like the first time you see. Like the. The Beast one. I did feel bad for them. Especially just the moment. I mean. Well. I'm not going to say. All right. Spoiler warning. Turn this off. If you haven't watched it. But I feel like most people. Have seen it by now. It's been out for so long. So. Just. Pause. Don't listen to the next part. But like. When the Beast Titan. Like. Talks. And they're genuinely like. What the fuck.

[01:05:56] I did feel a little bad for them. Because they're just like. What is going on? And then they just all die. I did feel bad for them then. But. There'll be some. More heart wrenching ones. Coming up. Don't you worry. I'm already expecting. That like. Some of the characters. I actually. Because that's another thing. Like there's like. Only like. Maybe like. Three characters. Four characters. I actually like in this show. I'm blurry. It happens. Try to fix it. And I'm like. Fix it. It's going to be like. A Jujutsu Kaisen moment. Where like.

[01:06:26] Every character you care about. Just dies. I'm already. I can already see it. So. People can see this Alex. I know. I was trying to fix it. But then I had to have fun with it. But. Yeah. I think. That's. We'll save the rest. For when we. When I finish the show. And we do the. We get the round table. Back together. Then we have to do. Dragon Ball Z retrospective. With Matt as well. Yep. That will happen. And I'm just going to roast.

[01:06:55] That I didn't really like it. That's fine. I just. Watch Super the whole time. Anyways. Once again guys. Thank you for joining us. On the Gaming Collecting Podcast. You can find the Gaming Collecting Podcast. On all the major podcasting platforms. Particularly Apple Podcast and Spotify. And be sure to check us out. Over on the SuperPod Network. That is SuperPodNetwork.com. An awesome site.

[01:07:23] Where you can find all sorts of different podcasts. Videos. Blogs. Including such shows as. SuperPod Saga. Super Ghost Radio. Retro Rehab. Tommy's Video Game Ride Along. A Novel Console. Bar Silence. Find Time. The Elder Trolls Gaming Podcast. Remember 64. Gaming Together. Friday Night Game Cast. Gaming and Collecting. The 3DO Experience. Geek Addicts. The Retro Wildlands. Press B to Cancel. The Pre-Order Bonus Podcast. Retro Mo Reviews. Um. And. Tommy and Grant go podcasting.

[01:07:53] Because Tommy is the Brett Favre for podcasters. Apparently. And keeps retiring and unretiring. He made that joke on the video. Last night. That is becoming a mouthful. Yes. But anyways guys. Once again. Thank you for joining us. We will see you all later. And don't forget. To go to the doctors. But not Dr. Quack. Because he's the killer. He'll come out of your toilet.

[01:08:23] With a knife. Deal. Hello.