G&C Podcast - Episode 193: Three Anime Films #6: The Boy And The Heron/Suzume/Drifting Home!

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, on this episode of Gaming Collecting, me and Alex are returning to our three anime film series.

[00:00:07] [SPEAKER_00]: This time covering the somewhat recently released The Boy And The Heron,

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Suzume, and Drifting Home. Like always guys, spoilers afoot in this one, but another ways guys, on with the episode.

[00:00:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Because you said that after the button was already pressed. How ya been by the way?

[00:01:03] [SPEAKER_04]: I've been dropped to the bucket.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_00]: How great!

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's been a weekend. It's been a week. It's been a long time.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 2024 has been a year.

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Not over yet.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_00]: No, my mantra for this year has been what the fuck is this year?

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, you gotta do a meditative oh.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, because it's like every week something else fucking happens and it's like is this year ever like stop being insane?

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like who's getting cancelled next?

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Who got cancelled now?

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'd have to look. I know people have been getting cancelled left and right this year.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what's new?

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Scooby-Doo.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_00]: April's got a confession to make.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. That was.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, when I saw that, like that's just like, oh, it's so funny.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not surprising.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I in all honesty, whenever I hear a celebrity cheating, I'm never really surprised

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_00]: because they're celebrities and well, no, we mentioned it last week, but what makes the day girl one so funny is the fact that

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: for years, he's been always known as like the nice guy of the music industry.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's literally like the grandpa, like nice, nice man.

[00:02:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone likes it.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, nope.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's also been on like a tie rate recently about like complaining about certain individuals using his songs.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, I get it, but at the same time it's like they're still going to pay you for it.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Principles.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to go too deep into it if people really want to know who I'm talking about.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty obvious, but yeah, I think like, I don't know.

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so like indifferent to that shit.

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I just it's like, I see him like, OK, old man yells at cloud again, whatever.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But yeah, anything else interesting?

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember the last time we parted.

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It was last.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Friday, we did the Sailor Moon episode.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that was not a long ago.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. No one left me hated.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Still be hated about it, especially after looking through our message

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_05]: conversation and seeing all the ugly ass screenshots.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_05]: They fucking failed.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. But it's crazy, though, because we're in like we're in the end game

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_00]: now of the year where we're like getting really close.

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_00]: We have only only three months left of the year.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to hit 200 episodes before the end of the season.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And we're getting right close to our year end anime count, right?

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Anime rundown, which.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's a lot like there's still like I need to.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_05]: I probably should watch a couple more.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I know like there's a bunch of them that are finishing up the seasons

[00:04:22] [SPEAKER_05]: that are coming out currently, but the dub I'm still waiting on.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_05]: So once those are out, I can watch all of those finally.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because Slime's got like two episodes, I think left.

[00:04:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think my hero is I think it's finished.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_05]: The dub for the latest season has finished.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I just need to go watch it.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And there's a couple other ones that was interesting to see as well.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if Oshinoko is going to be done before the end of the year,

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_00]: because I might end up at that one with the list.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'd like to get that one in too.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I am excited about that one.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_05]: But I haven't now that I've actually been using high dive.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Only thing I don't like about high dive is like that.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: If you it's you, I should it.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not great, especially like if you leave off watching a series,

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_05]: it doesn't always remember where you leave off.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it doesn't very often.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_05]: So like I heavily have to rely on putting it into Mal or I'll be bumming

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_05]: or just remembering where I left off in the plot.

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So I have two backups because I have my any list and I also still have Mal.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't use Mal as religiously anymore,

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_00]: but I still kind of try to keep it updated just in case.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's yeah.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_05]: And like it's frustrating too, because then when it does remember

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_05]: and it's like, all right, like you left off on this episode

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_05]: and then you are to click it and then it doesn't like continue playing

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_05]: the episodes, it only plays that last episode.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Or sometimes it does.

[00:05:43] [SPEAKER_05]: It's weird. Oh, it never has for me.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_05]: So maybe it will, but currently it never has.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's very annoying every time it's a very glitchy app.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they've redone it a few times and it still isn't great.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_00]: But they have a great selection of shows on there.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of like you just kind of have to deal with.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_05]: There are so many things on there too.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I was looking through like the dubs

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_05]: and there's so many things I didn't really have dubs

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_05]: like the show I'm watching right now.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I just never thought it had a dub.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_05]: So I was like when I saw it then I was like, oh, like what?

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_05]: So I dive.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: High dive was literally like the company

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: that would just dub shit that no one else would dub.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Now Netflix is kind of starting to do a lot of that

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: because Netflix has been dubbing shows

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_00]: that previously were never going to get dubbed.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, I've mentioned it before, but Kimmy

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_00]: needed OK that fucking took like 10 years to get a dub.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, that's kind of different, though, too.

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like they dubbed it because they were continuing the series as well.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Like they partially made the next season.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They funded it.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't. Yeah.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's what. But that's why.

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Like they it's not.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think they would have just went back and redubbed it.

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_05]: They weren't going to continue.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's also Kimmy Nidoki was published.

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The rights holders were anti-plex and anti-plex fucking sucks.

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like it's like 50 50 if you're going to get a dub

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_00]: and good luck getting a physical release.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, or they might lose it.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm pretty certain Shiki was anti-plex.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a strong that's what happened to Fullmetal Alchemist.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_00]: I have a feeling a show I'm watching right now called Bakano also went through that.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care. Yes.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Who? But I don't know.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Was it was a fucking nation?

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's the thing.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Anti-plex didn't dub.

[00:07:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They just go to their rights because funny.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Usually did a lot of anti-plexes dubs.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was it was an anti-plex case

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_05]: because that's another one where the dub is just gone.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. You can only get it via the really expensive DVD box sets.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And even then I don't even know if this one had one.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it did because I saw it on Amazon once,

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_00]: but it was like stupidly expensive because it's out of print.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Or you can be like me watching Bakano and I'm using a bootleg

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_00]: because that's the only way to watch it right now.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Or you watch it on YouTube and I flipped upside down small in the corner box.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_00]: No, like 280p, like grainy.

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like shit, but yeah, that's what audio is.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_05]: You can still watch it.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Or it's never subbed.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And just deal with it.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But I am a dub man, so I will scour the earth until just to get an option.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_04]: Do, do, do, do, do, or say dub man.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, apparently from the YMCA, except young man, it's dub man.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you drinking?

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm having one of these monster, the beast alcoholic drinks.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Monster really?

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I have to disown you.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just kidding.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm kidding.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first off, it's a NASCAR sponsor and I had to try it.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_05]: OK, OK.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: They're they're very interesting.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_00]: They are they go down way too fast.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: That's all I will say.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_05]: All right.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_05]: You're going to ask me when I'm drinking.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care what the water bottle facts are.

[00:09:15] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not water.

[00:09:16] [SPEAKER_04]: What I'm drinking.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you drinking, Alex?

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_04]: I am drinking a Dells.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, throwback.

[00:09:24] [SPEAKER_05]: You haven't had a while at the set.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_05]: No, it's different.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Stop at the sign of the lemon.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Tangerine orange sparkling citrus beverage.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_05]: There's no alcohol, not an alcoholic like someone.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_05]: It's 12 blue ounces.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Three three hundred fifty five milliliters.

[00:09:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's see.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_05]: There's no preservatives, no GMOs, no artificial colors.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Enriched with vitamin C.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It's kosher.

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_05]: It specifically says kosher.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It is there's a little lemon and lemonade holding hands on it.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Look at that.

[00:10:09] Look at that.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_05]: That's something.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_05]: All right, Bill, drum roll, drum roll.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_05]: You haven't heard this in a while.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_05]: It's one hundred and fifty calories.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, damn, that's a little lot.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well, one serving size per can.

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of other shit.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_05]: But hey, you turned that music off.

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_05]: But anyways, facts, there's carbonated filtered water in it.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Bill, I haven't had my moment in a while.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone cares about my facts.

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_05]: You take that stupid banner down right now.

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_05]: You take it down.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_05]: You take it down.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_05]: You take turns out.

[00:10:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Fuck it.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Because all you turn up is you go and you take that fucking

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_05]: banner down, take it down.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Are you going to move on and get it over with?

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I will break my drink a nine out of ten.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_05]: It's very refreshing.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I wish the calories weren't as high, but I do like it.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_05]: It's very nice.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I would get them again.

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And on that note, it's refreshing.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we'll move on to our.

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, and there's zero grams of protein.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_00]: No one cares.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone cares about the protein, Bill.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on to our topic.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: We're actually doing something that we haven't done in almost a year.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to throw it back.

[00:11:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been almost a year since we.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We did one of these.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: The we're actually returning to a three anime films now.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_05]: I thought we retired that serious.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_00]: No, we just haven't had time to watch it this year.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, so three anime films for those who don't remember is

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_00]: it is the sister series to anime swap where rather than watch two anime series,

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: we instead watch three anime films and then we discuss.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like anime swap, the films don't have to correlate with each other.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_00]: They also don't have to.

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have to have a similar theme and they don't all have to be standalone.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They could be like based off of a series or they could just be their own thing.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So the way it works is we watch three movies

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: and we'll kind of go over them in order and kind of give our thoughts on them.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_00]: So for this one, we actually this the way I kind of saw this one was two

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: of the films anyways were mostly catch up for us.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_00]: They were two shows and must be.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were two movies that have been out for a while

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: and we were going to watch them, but we just haven't really had the time.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Which is three movies that have been out for a while.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but one of them we picked just for this.

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The other two were movies that like were on our radar.

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_05]: What? No, it was on my radar.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_05]: I was planning on watching it regardless at some point.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Bill.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But regardless, we'll move on to going over the first of the movies we watched.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And that was The Boy in the Heron.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_04]: And for those who did.

[00:13:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for those who don't know, Boy in the Heron was a 2023 anime film

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_00]: directed by Hayao Miyazaki in what is

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_00]: supposedly his final film.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He said the same thing about The Wind Rises,

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: but he came out of retirement to do one final film, The Boy in the Heron.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Not going to lie, I think Wind Rises was a better conclusion to his

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_00]: career as a director.

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Agreed, agreed.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not going to completely shit on this film because of that

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_00]: because it's not a bad film, but we have things to say about it.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_00]: So to give a brief kind of plot synopsis, this film kind of takes place in like

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: World War Two era Japan, actually kind of similar to The Wind Rises only.

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of The Wind Rises being a very realistic film, this one is more mystical and fantastic.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's definitely a lot of fantasy elements.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And it follows a boy named Mahito Maki who is he.

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: So this film also has some really weird lore where essentially he,

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: his mother had died in a, I believe it was like one of the

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_00]: bombings, I think at the time.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm assuming like I believe she was working in the hospital because I remember they were saying

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_05]: it was like showing a hospital and they were saying like his father and a bunch of people in their home

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_05]: were going, oh no, like something happened at the hospital.

[00:14:38] [SPEAKER_05]: We got to go when he was trying to go to the hospital as well, but he couldn't.

[00:14:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And it I believe it shows.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Is it the first time it shows like the hallucination of his mom like in the fire as well?

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where she kind of just mysteriously burned.

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_00]: She almost turns into like a phoenix in the air and then rises and disappears.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_00]: But then it cuts to him now where he's kind of like in a car with his father and they're kind of

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_00]: moving to their destination.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It's implied that he's kind of been away for a while and he's finally rejoining his family who have been living

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of away from all the craziness going on.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, they were living in Tokyo when everything happened and then they moved to the countryside after everything happened.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm assuming this is just kind of a guess.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing if we're going by history, this was around the point where like after they had attacked Pearl Harbor.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So like the U.S. was doing like the bombs on Tokyo, the bombing raids on Tokyo at the time.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to assume yes.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_05]: That's that's my guess real world timeline and yes.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_00]: This film's timeline is very vague.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's implied to be during World War II era Japan, but it's it's not very it's not very deep into that because let's face it.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: That's actually kind of a very basic minor element of this film.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's more based around the relationship of the characters themselves.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Mahira is aunt and his mother.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_00]: His aunt mother.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_05]: His well, his aunt mother and also just his mother.

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_00]: So when he's returning to when he's being basically taken to the place where his father's currently living, it's revealed that his father had remarried.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_00]: His aunt who was his previous wife's sister.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Hence the aunt mother.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Which which is I guess a thing that just happens.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It sounded weird when I first read it, but then I was like, yeah, I guess it's a thing.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it is a weird kind of.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Well especially the way they imply it is it's like it's she looks identical to her sister and there it's like it's like look I remarried I got remarried to a woman who looks identical to your mom it's like that's just weird.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's already pregnant with your younger sibling.

[00:16:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep. So, too bad.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I will admit though the mother character.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: What was her name?

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_05]: That's a go.

[00:17:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Very likable character. Like she's trying.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she's trying but she's also not pushing it.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: No, she's being.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_05]: She's not being like, like we have to be a family she's kind of letting letting him go at his own pace which I guess is kind of nice just you know he's going through probably one of the hardest things in his life.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:17:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But they end up getting to their new home that they'll be staying in. And they're immediately like as they're walking through the house, like a herring like flies by and they imply that that's strange how it's never been that close before.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_05]: And the herrings act a little weird, a little soft.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:17:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And they proceed to go through kind of life like he ends up going to his first day of school and it doesn't go well.

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it goes very bad. He's treated like an outsider and gets into a fight immediately.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So what he does is he bashes his head in with a rock so he doesn't have to go to school the next day.

[00:18:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that was that scene was very interesting to me because it was like wow, like he just was very unexpected to both just like like when he went and grabbed the rock we weren't expecting it to like his head to just start gushing one.

[00:18:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like he fucking right in the side of his head and it's just like faces covered in blood I was like holy fuck.

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_05]: And then.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we also we also forgot to talk about though all the elderly maids.

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah there's a lot of elderly maids that kind of just live around the house and they kind of just help.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_05]: They're all the hardest characters in the show.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we can't deny it.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_05]: They're.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: They have multiple faces like they have forehead faces like it's great.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, I do.

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: There is one that sticks out above the rest because she's kind of a smart ass for the entire time.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_00]: What was her name again.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That was a hero I believe.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was I liked her she was kind of a sarcastic she was kind of a sarcastic ass the entire time.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And she became a pretty good supporting cater character later on as well.

[00:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So what ends up happening is eventually like he keeps seeing the herring like kind of flying around and the herring you immediately find out this herring is fucking weird because it has fucking teeth.

[00:19:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it talks.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it talks and chits in his room.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Alex like died so hard during the scene because there was a.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, he was he was in his bed and then the herring came in the window.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And then like the herring was talking to him and then he first the herring proceeded to turn around during the movie.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_05]: I made a big one.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And flying that it was going to shit on it.

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_04]: And then low it flies away.

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, below the window.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Big pile of shit all over the windowsill.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_04]: It was just so funny.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he called the herring Robert.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we caught the fact we caught the herring Robert the entire film because he's famous.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_00]: He was very famously voiced by Robert Patterson.

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_04]: He did a good job.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_00]: No, he does he does a phenomenal job in the role but the whole time because the herring is literally just called the gray Heron.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have a name we literally just called him Robert the entire.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_04]: Robert, Robert, no.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But it kind of keeps going through the spaces like he ends up trying to build like a weapon to face off against this herring because the herring is basically just harassing him now.

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER_00]: The herring has a straight up human face in its beak.

[00:20:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's fucking weird.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I guess we reveal later on.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_00]: But um,

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: eventually one day like he sees his stepmother just kind of wandering off into the woods.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like that's strange, but he doesn't really do anything about it until the maids are like we can't find.

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: We can't find the mistress of the house anywhere like where did she go and he explains that she went off into the forest.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: So then of course,

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Mahito and Kikaro have to go.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He basically just takes Kikaro with him.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And they end up in the tower where they eventually run into Robert. We're going to call him Robert for the rest of this by the way.

[00:21:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And they end up crippling Robert because he has they have his like extra feather that he used it to make.

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, to make the arrow.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And it ends up putting a hole in his beak, which cripples him and makes it so he can't fly anymore.

[00:21:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And human bird thing bird man thing like kind of like short fat like giant nose and he's very, very indignant about the fact that he's he's basically been crippled.

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: But what eventually ends up happening is he wants to know where.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Netsuko is.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And essentially what happens is the guy who like runs the tower, who's played by Mark Hamill the grand uncle.

[00:22:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He essentially is like he's like be his guide on this journey he's about to go on and they get sucked into the floor and he ends up in like fantasy land.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Where he ends up eventually running into this older younger.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess middle aged like woman who's like a pirate kind of sailing.

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, she ends up seeing him from the pelicans.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the evil pelicans who tried sending him through like the evil doorway of the gates of death I guess it was supposed to be an implication of.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And what ends up going through is he ends up kind of joining her on her task because she's part of like this, like group where she gathers food for these like little creatures known as the.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Bummer.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: While we're rarers I think.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were the most sinister and the most sinister character.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_05]: An adorable if you think that sister you're crazy.

[00:23:11] [SPEAKER_00]: This is my running joke during the.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Parakeets for more sinister.

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They were just looking for food.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: William.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: William.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_04]: What was the one before?

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm the foe was like the nicest character in this movie he was the noble pelican who died right after easy appeared.

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It's also pretty much implied that the lady that he's working with is actually a younger version of Kikaro who has been missing this entire time.

[00:23:41] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But eventually he resolves this plot thread and moves on to his next journey, but before he leaves the older Kikaro gives him a little statue of the younger Kikaro to hold on to because it might be important later.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and before the bird man dies to you do run into another the new character also the young lady he may who has power kinetic powers.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: She's a fireman essentially.

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, but she saved the war war from the pelicans.

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: The ones that she didn't burn to death in the process.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well that's how she saved them.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_05]: She burned them.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_05]: But they meet before that too.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But he ends up going on to his next area which I believe is he meets up again with Robert and Robert and they end up fixing Robert speaks or Robert can fly again.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and they eventually start this plan to go to where Natsuko is and he has to go through this tower filled with parakeets and the parakeets are all like axe wielding murderers in this in this world.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they do.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's a great scene of them like gutting like what is assumed to be a human and there's just a pocket full of bones and that's in the corner it's wonderful.

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I will say though the whole time the animation this film is beautiful like it's definitely Miyazaki film.

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no everything is great.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely digitally done but it has a lot of that traditional style that his films have.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:25:18] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah eventually he gets through and he gets kidnapped by the.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: No, he doesn't get kidnapped by the.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_05]: So at the beginning when they're trying to infiltrate he me ends up saving him and he may end up kind of guiding him through the through the cast through the tower.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_05]: And at one point through the tower they actually find a door that returned him to home.

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_05]: But he actually makes his choice to instead go instead stay rather than go because at this point like everyone back at home is like freaking out trying to find him.

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, because we get a great scene where they go through the door but they hold on to it so it doesn't disappear forever and they heard his dad comes up to see him just as like a horde of the of the parakeets like come through.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: And what's funny is because the way the worlds are when the parakeets become enter the real world.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: They turn into regular parakeets.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because the sequence is so quick his father actually thinks that he turned into a parakeet.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they all proceed to shit on him because the holy fuck there's a lot of parakeets.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of shit in general in this film is what we realize but.

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_05]: But anyway so after that he ends up kind of going back in and but that's when they end up getting into some altercation where he me gets hurt.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_05]: It gets kidnapped by the parakeets, but my hero is able to escape well what happens is they encounter.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: They find where his stepmother is the.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's a go and what happens is they get to her but she like.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_00]: She like basically like refuses to let him near her because it's basically implied that she's hurt that he won't accept her as his mother.

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a very it's kind of a symbolic thing.

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And she's essentially basically pushing him away now because I'm assuming her negative traits are being pushed out because of this weird like area she's in.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but what happens is eventually he ends up getting forced out of there and the two of them get knocked out and they both get tied up but.

[00:27:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Machito gets saved by Robert, of course, Robert and they proceed to.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Begin their escape where there's also a lot of weird dream sequences that happen in this like he ends up meeting the grand uncle and a dream.

[00:27:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the grand uncle proceeds to explain how he's the successor.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_00]: He wants him to be his permanent successor because the world that he keeps creating is full of negative emotions and it's just going to get a constant cycle.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I will say I just going at it now to you and even just like going back and we're talking about it.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_05]: I had a hard time following the plot of this film.

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I kept having to like, it's definitely one I feel you need to rewatch to truly get it.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what this film reminded me a lot of it's up there with like Castle in the Sky and Princess Mononoka where like those plots were very all over the place to me.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like there was a bigger deeper meaning he was trying to convey which I respect but at the same time it's not the most digestible film on a first time watch.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I feel like it's one I need to rewatch to get a better perspective of but just as we're recapping it.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just like you know what like fucking know what the story is like it's fucking big old bird man.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Bird man.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's this is the most and the blocks and then the parakeets want the power and David teased is there for some reason.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: David teased is the the parakeet king.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Who as we're saying it and like what the fuck is this movie like it's very it is very all over the place and it's sad because I didn't hate it, but the whole time I was like I have no fuck.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Miyazaki was trying to say something here.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not sure he almost got like Hideo Kojima levels of abstract at times.

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like as we're recapping and I'm like the more and more I'm just like it like I kind of lower my score.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_05]: I think I gave it a seven but I kind of want to give it a six now.

[00:29:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Like it's just yeah.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just feel like there's so much there's way better Miyazaki films.

[00:29:45] [SPEAKER_00]: No, there really is like I said it before like this isn't my least favorite but it's also like not in my top five by any means.

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:29:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I still like this more than Castle in the Sky.

[00:29:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Even Princess Mononoke I know that sacrilege to some people.

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I agree.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I agree for our opinions.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, my thing with Princess Mononoke wasn't that it was bad.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was just too long.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Too long and like, I don't know for me it was the gore factor.

[00:30:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there was a lot of gore this one the most.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like because I know like I've watched gore things before and like I'm usually five of it but I feel like the fact that it was a jibbly film was just like really throwing me off and I really didn't like it.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that one he was very much that one similar to this one he was trying to tell us something very, very deep.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, it's getting back on track.

[00:30:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Basically the final climax is they end up finally, they're basically going after Lady he make who's been.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: She's been kidnapped by the Pelican King and given to the Grand Uncle and the Grand Uncle and the Pelican King have like this chat about the future, but the Pelican King doesn't trust him at all and he kind of sneaks around as my he told Robert.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_05]: The Periket King.

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever bird bird man.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_05]: There's too many birds.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: David.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Just say David.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I love the scene when they walk into that castle and there's just all the good the pelican parakeets in the background with the signs and one of them just says Dutch on it for some reason.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_05]: No, there was a bunch of them with Dutch.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's another allegory that we're that's too, that's too like deep for us to get or something but

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but anyway so he kind of hangs back as my he told Robert.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And up getting into the area where with the Grand Uncle and there's this great scene of them slowly getting closer and closer with David to chill to the background I'm just going to call him that up for us this by the way.

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Chilling in the background getting closer and closer and they don't fucking notice him even though he's right up their ass.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, come here you can't see me man.

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And the climax for this film is so absurd to me where like the he has this big deep talk with the Grand Uncle where he's basically like we need to make it we need to save the world and do this thing like I need you to even if you don't accept my my offer I need you to at least make one tower one tower that will be perfect and stand forever.

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And they kind of fucks everything up.

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_00]: They dilly dally for like five minutes and then he runs the Parakeet King literally runs up and just like makes this haphazard tower like right there.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_05]: He's like, well, he's like, well, he's also like you're gonna leave the hand leave the hands of fate into this child.

[00:32:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I make my own tower.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_00]: He makes this haphazard tower that immediately starts to fall over and rather than you know, just make another tower. He just fucking cuts the entire table in half.

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and proceeds to destroy like the giant space floating spaceship rock thing in the background that's very deep apparently.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And it just causes this entire world to fucking devolved into chaos.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And then it ends up being a chase out where they're all having to escape and yeah well the world is basically collapsing like the world's going to be no more. Yeah, but the final climax ends up being they end up getting back to the hall of doors, and they

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_00]: are going to be able to unite with Natsuko and like everybody.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And basically they make their final goodbyes where it then is revealed that Lady Hime who, let's face it if you were paying enough attention you could understand right away that Lady Hime is actually an alternate universe version of Mahiko's mother.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's not alternate universe. It's her past self.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It's younger self. Yeah, but it's implied that they're like different worlds at the same time. The way I read into it it was weird.

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, no I thought it was like that because at one point they tell the story of how her mom went into like disappeared for a year and then came back.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Well disappeared for like a few years and then came back fine with like had an age at all.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_05]: Which is what it was basically saying so I think it was her past. I'm not sure it could have been both I was taking it as her past self because it was just like Kira goes.

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It's it was confusing. I mean they did have a good good by moment though of like you know like when she was like I can't wait like for you to be my son which was like a nice yeah.

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just one of those weird like it's too deep for my brain that's all I'm going to say. Yeah.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_00]: But they eventually end up going back to their designated door with like the main world where everything was going on and of course a shit ton of parakeets also come with them including the King Dave well you know he's just a bird now at this point.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_05]: He's bird but he's pretty much.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And then this is like the most what the fuck seed is like they're all through the door and they're just like.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Get on by the parakeets like the parakeets are just flying all over Natsuka and Mahito and Robert and they're just laughing as these birds just shit all over them.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_05]: The amount of poop jokes made during while watching this is pretty hilarious and have some of them were unironically made and then like it just happened to be shit everywhere.

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But then of course like the whole time like Robert's like so you forgot everything in there right he's like no Mahito is like no I remember everything he's like you shouldn't be able to he's like did you bring anything through that you weren't supposed to and he's like oh I have these two rocks what he has one of the stones.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the little figure of Kikaro.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah which turns back into well.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Well first Robert goes ah he's like well they're not that powerful so you should eventually forget anyways it just kind of let's it go.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But then like as they're like they reunite with the dad suddenly Kikaro just like grows out of his pocket because she was the doll the whole time.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody questions if they're just like ah whatever.

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the film has a hard cut and then it does a time skip and then it shows them after the war I'm pursuing where they're heading back to Tokyo and it shows the his newborn little well his like toddler little brother down at the stairs with the whole family as they leave for their next adventure and then the film literally just cuts the credits and it's just over.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:36:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It did feel a bit abrupt too and I know like it's he usually does like those abrupt.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Endings like that but like it just didn't feel I don't know it didn't feel finished to me it was just like oh okay it's fine.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_05]: See ya.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to dump on this film that much but the whole time I was kind of like I feel like this film didn't need to be made.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_05]: No I don't think so.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Miyazaki just wanted to make one more film and he just kind of had to so he threw this one together.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And he heard the voice of Robert Pattinson and he said you know what that sounds like a heron to me.

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean to be fair to be fair he was the most interesting character in the movie.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_05]: No yeah I put honestly though I kind of wish there was more like the time the movie is the boy in the heron.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_05]: But I feel like they didn't interact as much as they should have if that makes sense.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I feel like there could have been way more interactions.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah if anything he interacts with like Lady Hime and like Kikuro more than he does with Robert throughout the movie.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah like it's just like reflecting on I mean I guess you guys can we'll do a reflection of all three at the end but definitely not the not the worst Ghibli film I've seen but not.

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I would not say it was his best.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_00]: The way I put it is like my least favorite is Castle in the Sky which I know some people love that film.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The reason I dislike Castle in the Sky is because I just thought it was boring.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the only redeemable part of that film to me was the fact that Mark Hamill is a fucking really good villain.

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah he was excellent.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_00]: This movie had entertaining moments.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It was just such a convoluted estimage that that's what holds it back.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_05]: It was I think too the fact that it was so hard to follow what was going on at times that like the enjoyment factor just went down.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_05]: You were just trying to be like OK this happened but this also like you almost had to take notes.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: What got me the most was the fact that it like it takes place in like a real world setting but then it keeps going back to the mystical world.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: They just didn't clash.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_05]: The mystical world but also the dreams as well.

[00:38:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it's just like this world the dream world the current world.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean I know I keep comparing it to Wind Rises because I Wind Rises was a movie that was his last film.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It was his last film but Wind Rises also just hit me in a way that like I still think about that movie from time to time.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_00]: In like a retrospective kind of way like that was a deep movie that was like understandably like understandable like even that movie had the weird fantasy dream sequences but at least those made sense in the context of like what was going on.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_00]: This is just this this felt so this felt abstract to be abstract at times.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I almost feel like I don't want to say he was trying too hard to make something.

[00:39:42] [SPEAKER_05]: It almost feels like it was like I'm trying like Wind Rises was effortless.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Spirit of the way was effortless.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_05]: Like it was just a excellent story excellent characters and everything this one just felt like he was really trying like yeah.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I was born the hurt and like yeah like it just it felt forced I guess you could say.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_00]: The way I kind of looked at it was when we watched all the previous Ghibli films we were dead serious watching these movies because we were very into them.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_00]: This one we were cracking jokes the entire time because it just you're just so like it was so hard to follow that we the only way we can get any enjoyment of it was being just being shicked.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But it also to me like it didn't really have a care like the reason why I'm so endeared to like Robert the hiring is because he's really the only character in this movie that I really cared about going through it like everyone else.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: He was just like the guy from Castle in the Sky like I did not give a shit about that character throughout the film.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate we'll save our rankings for the end because next I want to transfer into what I think was a pleasant like pleasant surprise.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean it wasn't a movie that I thought was going to be bad by any means but like it was one of those movies that I was expecting to be good but I wasn't expecting to be this good.

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that that film is Susan may the most recent film by Makato Shinkai the same guy that brought us your name weathering with you a bunch of other films I still have to watch at this point but like I'm basing it off.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know your name, your name and a weathering with you. What I also find very interesting is this film came out right before boy in the herring so they kind of got like kind of clashed a bit in terms of like audience retention, which I think is a little unfair because I don't know which one did better to be perfectly honest I'd have to look into it but I know that there was a bit of a clash there.

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, this one did 300 and 16.8 million in the box office so yes let me just see what the boy in the herring did as a comparison it did oh it actually did better than the boy in the herring boy in the herring only made 294.2 million.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's because honestly Shinkai is like the modern Miyazaki lately like his films have been just so fucking good.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I almost wonder if that's why he like they were pushing out Miyazaki because like I mean and we're going to talk about another movie today too but like there are just so many people coming out with movies I mean Netflix is making movies which is the next one we're going to talk about and they're good.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_05]: They're good movies like their great stories and like Jimbly's not the only competitor anymore.

[00:42:59] [SPEAKER_00]: No I mean because back today his only real competitor to me was like Satoshi Kan and tragically Satoshi Kan passed away so long ago and he only got to make four films but he was like I used to always say Satoshi Kan was like the he was like the Don Bluth to Miyazaki's Walt Disney in a lot of ways.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Like his movies were a lot edgier.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Susan made did lose to the boy in the heron and some award nominations but I don't I've not not to be mean but I kind of feel like they won because of the Miyazaki name.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I don't not think that was a great movie.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know it was.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like the war it's a lot more.

[00:43:44] [SPEAKER_00]: It was a fine movie but it was just fine.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't wait let's just say like in terms of rewatching I would not rewatch the boy in the heron.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like I said it's not even in my top five Ghibli films.

[00:43:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I would rewatch this probably tomorrow.

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I actually have the first volume of the manga preordered I like this movie that much.

[00:44:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I was thinking about it too honestly but let's get into the plot of this one I guess so we can kind of give our brief synosis but as the title the name is centered around Susan may.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_05]: 17 year old high school girl.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I found this very interesting that he named the movie after the main character this time around.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Also.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the fact that like so in the previous two films he's done he said two characters a male and a female who have been kind of like they kind of share the spotlight to a degree.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_00]: This one flat out like Susan may she's the lead of this film.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_00]: There is supporting characters throughout that are very also important but Susan may is like the center focus which I found very refreshing because there were points in the previous other his other two films where I felt like there would be points for either the female or the male lead we get kind of pushed out and they kind of fought for who was like the lead of the film.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_05]: No she was the lead.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Also a little backstory I was reading into this apparently Shinkai initially for this film.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted it to be a he actually wanted the story to be a Yuri romance.

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh really.

[00:45:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah he wanted he wanted it to be two girls but the directors.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_00]: They basically said from what I read it was essentially they vetoed it and basically said they don't you remember this is Japan Japan very behind on the times when it comes to a lot of stuff.

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They basically said they didn't think it was time for a movie this big like budget wise and prominence wise to that kind of theme.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Honestly though I don't think it would have changed much because no well you can kind of see elements of it.

[00:45:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Well also like Sota could you know be kind of a androgynous character.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's his reason that's his reasoning why Sota becomes the chair is because he was like Shinkai's response was like fine if I can't do the thing I want to do I'm going to make it as absurd as possible.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And honestly it was great.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_00]: It was great to honestly like I would have been indifferent either way like I wouldn't have cared if they had gone with his original direction or the correction it has.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said I like the romance aspect of the film.

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it would have really made that much of a difference.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: No it really wouldn't.

[00:46:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I really don't because truthfully it was like honestly like in to like the love like yes it was a driving factor of the story but it was not the main story.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_05]: No a lot of it was just centered around Suzume and her relationships not just with Sota the other characters but with her stepmom with her you know her stepmom who was your aunt her parents that she lost tragically you know.

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like a coming of age adventure story more than anything.

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I'm like your name which your name is a full on romance and and your name does it very well.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Weathering with you felt a little forced in the romance department I still love weathering with you as a film but it the romance aspect of that film was a little yeah they were like he was trying a little harder with that one to make it more prominent this film there's a romance subplot but it's such a minor thing.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like it doesn't really come up until right at the end.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_05]: No yeah it's more honestly it probably didn't even need to be a romance like it probably could have even just been a friendship.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing is to the romance feels natural like you kind of understand why it happens it doesn't feel like it doesn't come out of nowhere.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_05]: No it was definitely I mean I think you guys can already tell that we enjoyed this film so much more than the boy Marin but I guess like to get started.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_05]: We already talked about certain center ground in japan 2023 and then this world is centered in the same universe so they've all been affected by you know what happened in your game.

[00:48:12] [SPEAKER_00]: So Pio's already been hit by a meteorite it got flooded and now we have giant space space worm about to cause earthquake.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_05]: But she her first like one of the first big moments in the film is actually she interacts with this young man who ends up being so tough and he asks her about a about an abandoned onsen or abandoned resort or something nearby something abandoned nearby.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_01]: He was looking for ruins essentially.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_05]: And she points him where where it is but being kind of the kind person she is she's like a little worried about him going there without knowing everyone because it's basically an abandoned land due to the natural acts like the earthquakes and other stuff that happened for so she ends up going back to find him.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_05]: But when she gets there she discovers a store frame standing on its own which the door ends up being something very very important.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_05]: And she opens it to see like this field of stars and this basically like this other world she tries to open it and she can't go into it so she ends up closing it she can't go into it so she but she ends up tripping over this little cat statue.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_05]: And then when she looks at it she goes huh she picks up and then suddenly the statue turns into a real cat and runs off.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_00]: And she thinks nothing of it other than she's like that was fucking weird also we get it.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_04]: She's like I'm late to school.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_04]: I got to go to school.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We also get a bit of her backstory in that scene though where she looks into the door because it's implied it's basically revealed that her mother had died in actually was reading into it it was implied to be the Japanese like Tsunami.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_00]: From the hit in 2011.

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Because she was actually a nurse and she died in the hospital during the tsunami which I just realized now both of the films we covered have to do with the main character who lost their mother to a natural disaster.

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And the odds involved.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, different well actually in the same context as they're both mother figures.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That's really weird now that I think about it.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I know I was thinking about that too.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But this movie handles it so much better.

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, United is like I love the relations like it's very good.

[00:50:36] [SPEAKER_05]: We'll talk about it later on.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Also like right off the bat like even before we get into a lot of her interactions you're immediately endeared to Susan may as a character she is so likable.

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_00]: She's such a mood.

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_05]: She's and she's not just like she's not a perfect character.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Like she's just a very real person.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Like she's a person that you would see.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_05]: She's not this idealistic perfect pure character.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Like she's a person that like we can we're all like sometimes you know which I felt was also very endearing.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But I like the scene where like I like the scene early on where she's like at the house talking to her aunt and she's all like hey I'm going out.

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_00]: She's like oh I've got stuff to do late tonight and she's like oh you got a date and the mom's like the aunt's like no no I gotta work.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: She's like I don't care if it's a date you can totally go on a date.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, which is kind of implied which comes up later.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very important detail.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_05]: But when she goes back to the school after fleeing from the from the area she ends up seeing like a bunch of a cloud of smoke and then she keeps pointing it out to her classmates but she quickly realized that she was going to be a bad person.

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_05]: And she realizes she's the only one that could see the smoke and then with the smoke follows an earthquake and this is kind of going to be a trend.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_05]: And then she ends up basically running to try and figure out where the smoke was coming from because she realized oh it's from that place I just was earlier.

[00:52:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Shit did I mess something up so she's going to go and find it, which she ends up running into SOTA.

[00:52:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And ends up helping him also along the way because we end up being revealed that SOTA is a what is known as yes a closer.

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_05]: He has to find doors that lead to that other world and basically lock them because of these supernatural powerful worm beings that are caught in earthquakes and natural disasters.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love Shinkai films because they are so realistic but at the same time they have these insane like supernatural elements to them that are just so absurd, but they make sense in the context of his stories.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry, Miss Pool was sleeping and then deep sleep and she was twitching and then she banged her head on the chair.

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it didn't do any damage.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Well yeah there's nothing in there but I just was like okay she looks pissed.

[00:53:09] [SPEAKER_05]: But she ends up taking him back to her place.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Because he got injured during the when they were trying to shut the door to close on the worm.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_05]: And she feels a little guilty because she kind of realized they quickly realized that it was her fault.

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because she basically took when she took out the little cat sculpture he ends up revealing that the cat sculpture was known as the Keystone.

[00:53:34] [SPEAKER_05]: And then as they're chatting the cat that they had disappeared ends up appearing again and this is like hey, the cat loves Suzume.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Well what happens is the cat is all kind of scruffy and looks weak so Suzume feeds it and she's all praising it.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And the cat then proceeds to talk and goes, Suzume, me and Suzume friends and then it turns over and looks at Sota and just goes you're in the way.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And then just immediately it goes to a cut.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a curse on him.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And he becomes the chair that he was sitting on while she was giving him my first aid.

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And that chair has deeper plot relevance than it first appears but it's essentially a little.

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, in another thing to that she the that Dijin and I mean spoiler warning we are spoiled the whole boy in the heroin but just in case spoiler warning.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_05]: When she curses Sota, she curses him also to become basically he's the next keystone like Dijin is no longer going to be the Keystone so does the Keystone now.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's something that he didn't realize in the beginning but he slowly will realize as the story goes on.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Well yeah because there'll be scenes where he'll go to sleep and then it'll take him a few minutes to wake up.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like kind of seen with like ice like almost like ice creeping up him and he's like almost frozen.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_00]: What's crazy is though like the whole time like Dijin that's what the cat ends up being named.

[00:55:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He is basically he thinks he's gonna like this whole thing's going to end up getting him in Susan is favor because he wants to be Susan is companion.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he doesn't realize though that like I think a lot of it is because Susan may freed freed them you know freed him and then fed him and was very nice to him.

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_00]: What happens though is basically he basically runs off and he's kind of progressively opening all of the different doors.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, no no no so he wasn't doing that.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_05]: So that's what they so at first that's what they think so what ends up happening is right after right after he's basically cursed into a chair of course that door ends up or a different door ends up opening up I think it was a different one.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Well this is after they go on the crazy wild chase and she ends up on the boat.

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, so they end up actually taking the ferry across the boat. They're trying to catch a dieting but it's not working and then eventually another door appears and so to basically tries to do it on his own but then quickly realizes I'm a chair.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't close the door. I am a chair. So she ends up having to clean the chair and basically for the next part of the journey it actually takes place of her traveling to a place to basically take on so just roll as a closer and close the doors.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_05]: What they think is happening is that they think that digene is opening the doors but it's not digene is actually leading them to the next doors that are going to open.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Right. But at first they keep blaming for digene. I just trying to help. I did not feel that.

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_05]: I did. I loved the little digene and I was so sad when he was all like unhappy. It was his own fault. No. He did it to himself. No he didn't. All he wanted was to just be a cat.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He could have read the room. He could have read the room.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_05]: How would you feel if you were stuck being a little keystone for your whole life? You wouldn't like it so much. You wouldn't. So stop being mean to poor things.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. By ruining someone else's life.

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Shut up but when the path is on her adventures to basically close these doors.

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_00]: She runs into a whole bunch of different cats and characters.

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_05]: They are all so lovable and so great.

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The first one she runs into is Chica, the orange salesman.

[00:57:53] [SPEAKER_05]: What we determined is that all friends named Chica are great in animes. It may be real life. I haven't met a real Chica but maybe if I do someday it will be great.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_05]: The first they meet Chica and then she ends up hitchhiking.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_05]: Which don't do people but in this case it worked out with a nice lady named Rumi and her two kids. She ends up having to babysit the kids but then also helps out at the bar.

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_00]: The same thing happens with Chica where she goes to Chica's family who runs in and she gets to stay at the inn if she helps out.

[00:58:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is really nice. I love the scenes where they are talking about boys and they get sent to go clean the bathroom because no one wants to listen to them.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And they still talk to them. Also just to help out and stuff.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But they send them there so they want to listen to them. Yeah which is great.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Then the next lady which already kind of talked about. Who is the last person?

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Well what happens is she goes from a, I love that part too is each of them kind of understands her journey and she kind of like.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Well they're all kind of thinking for the most part that.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And a part I think really is true that she's kind of going on an adventure being a runaway kind of doing her own thing but also you know like because her relationship with her aunt is complicated because at one point like she's so great you know grateful for her aunt for taking her in that the same time like.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_05]: She also wants her aunt to have her own life and she also doesn't want to be smothered at the same time so it's complicated you know.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Well that's also the whole plot thing is like the aunt is constantly like messaging her like where the fuck are you because she's going on this insane.

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Trip across Japan.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And what's great too is another thing that kind of isn't as apparent but you notice it in the more you actually read into it.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Her relationship with Soda is actually growing here more and more because she still chat with him like when when they're alone.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Even though he's a chair and like they constantly get all these different like things like there's also like the great scene where she's playing with the kids who are like she can't handle the children at all.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_00]: But then like she uses Soda as a way to like play with them and then he reveals himself but the kids are so young they don't get it.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah just like oh it's a toy created with AI that was a good joke.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_00]: My favorite though is it's like they're sitting on him and like riding around that she's like ooh I want to go for a ride he's like don't even think about it.

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_05]: She gets one later on.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_05]: What she sits on the chair.

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the way I never mind.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, get your mind out of the gutter.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The way you said it was like Alex.

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_05]: You're a freaking weirdo anyways so after that but then eventually their next stop is

[01:00:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They get to Tokyo because they want to stop at his apartment because he needs to find out something about the next location or something.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_05]: Well she wanted they want to do that but it's also because like he knows that there's two keystones there's two keystones which are kind of the symbolic Ian and Yang that balance the world.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_05]: And he knows that one is in Tokyo so that's also why they were going that way regardless.

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But he wanted to go back to his apartment to get some information.

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Also, they end up talking about how his grandfather is in Japan and then they meet his friend who his friend says he owes him money but in fact he owes.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_05]: He owes so much money instead which is pretty funny.

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_05]: And he ends up being a pretty good supporting character but he's pretty.

[01:01:31] [SPEAKER_05]: What ends up happening though is teacher exam.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what ends up happening though is the next the big the main worm comes out of the main door in Tokyo.

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and basically it's gotten to the point where the other keystone can't hold it anymore and this thing is basically out and it's going to be really bad.

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's also the door that it comes out of is like impossible to close because it's coming out of like a subway tunnel.

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it actually it's deeper down like farther down underground.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_05]: But at first that's what it looks like and it kind of to them looks like there's no nothing they can do.

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What's crazy though is like soda then like so soda has this like tendency to just like ditch Susan may because he's want to get her to get hurt but he also forgets I'm a chair.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_00]: So he ends up jumping into the worm to get to the top of it to try and stop it.

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And we get one of the most ridiculous but greatest scenes in this anime where then Susan may jumps after him, but no one can see the actual warms and stuff happening.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_00]: She straight up jumps into the air and then just flies into the air and it's the most absurd thing ever.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_00]: But eventually she gets up to the top of it and they run into Dijin again and essentially Dijin's implies there's no way to stop it now it's going to break the earth.

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the only way to stop it is with the keystone and at first that bit of arguing is like you have to be the keystone but then Dijin's like you don't get it.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not the keystone anymore.

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and basically tells soda that he is the keystone and show that then basically just gives up and he accepts his fate and becomes the keystone permanently.

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, but it's also a really touching moment between Susan may and soda because Susan is like no we have to find another way.

[01:03:25] [SPEAKER_05]: Like we can't like I can't lose you and then Susan may so does like no like it's the only way like the only way we're going to stop this is with me as the keystone.

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like very sad.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It literally ends up being they they argue back and forth and it ends up they end up basically soda gives up and Susan may continues to be in disbelief and she won't allow him to accept.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_00]: She won't allow she basically won't accept it until literally she runs out of time and she's forced to use him as the keystone to stop world from getting destroyed.

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then she proceeds to fall down but gets saved by Dijin and they actually end up where she ends up is at the door, but where the worm came from, which is where she can then see so tough on top of this implied Mount Fuji in this other world.

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And she shuts the door seals it and then Dijin's like, isn't it great we get to be friends now forever and she basically tells him like you realize what the fuck you've done.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and for a little guy, he went from being a little help cat to a little sad cat and bill was like I'll fucking care and I was like you're a little harder person.

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_04]: He's cat.

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_04]: He fucking was asked for.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_04]: No, he wasn't doing it on purpose.

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_04]: How would he be?

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_04]: How would you feel?

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to put your thumb up.

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: How would I feel it's like the one person you care about gets just killed off for a cat that cares about other people anyways.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but the whole thing that whole scene is great.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: That whole scene was deep though because she basically tells dad you'd I never want to see you again it like just leaves in a half.

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, and then after that though she ends up seeking out the soda's grandfather because she's like there's also that great scene though of her on the way to the hospital where she

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_00]: her clothes are fucking wrecked at this point she has shoes.

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she's bleeding all over the place and everyone's like what happened to her.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she ends up going to the hospital.

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_05]: And she ends up seeking out his grandfather for advice and his grandfather is common asshole.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense though in context like it's their duty.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And he basically is like well so does an idiot but he did his job.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And then she's like I need to save him and he's like you're stupid there's no way to save him and they argue and then eventually he's like, there's one way, but you have to find the main door.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: And your door, your door essentially.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And essentially she then gets the hope she needs and leaves and then the old man lays back down looks over and sees another cat in the window and he goes, it's you it's been forever hasn't he kind of smiles and they cut it there and

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: it leaves it.

[01:06:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, first like you kind of think Oh is that is that you might be die Jean but it's actually not die Jean.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_05]: So she ends up going back to his apartment gets herself cleaned up puts your uniform back on she's like all right I got it. I got to get home because she remembers her door her duris back home where she was originally originally from yes that got ravaged by the tsunami.

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So she's like I got to get back there, which ends up turning onto adventure with where she meets up with.

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm bringing fun in his name.

[01:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So does friend with the.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah because she runs into him.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_05]: To my to me or.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_05]: How Oh Sarah is always what they call okay Sarah is all right, she ends up running into him, but then she also ends up running into her on and then the three of them end up going on a journey in a convertible with a broken.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it's a convertible that looks really nice at first and then it's slowly you've started realizing this thing's a piece of shit beater that he fought.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, well what's hilarious is like the whole time the odds like no you're not going any with this strange man like who's clearly trying to take advantage of you the guys like whoa we just met like you're clearly getting the wrong idea.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: I just want to find my friend lady.

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Susan is like, she's like, I'm going regardless getting in the car and she's like if you want to come to that's fine.

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm going but I'm leaving and they end up going on the journey.

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Some hijinks happen along the way.

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And eventually it doesn't shut.

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah it's raining the sun roof doesn't shut and they have to pop stop at a rest area and wait kind of for the rain to hold up.

[01:07:53] [SPEAKER_05]: But it ends up actually leading into a pretty heated argument between yeah because the whole time like her aunt is like messaging Sonic.

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: One of her coworkers was voiced by Roger Craig Smith like let's be real.

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But the whole time like they're messaging back and forth and eventually like, he's like oh you can get on a bus and get home at this point like and get away with it.

[01:08:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And she gets away from that guy. And she ends up the end of getting into a heated argument like like let's just go home and Susan means like no I can't go home like I can't really tell you what's going on but I have to go and eventually the odd just finally like blows up and basically lets out all her frustrations, which

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_00]: then also lets out her frustrations and the two of them end up just it ends up being like this like you think their relationship just ended like badly but then you find out her aunt is actually possessed at the time by the other keystone which is a large black cat cat which is the cat that we saw at the

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_05]: pop in the window.

[01:09:02] [SPEAKER_00]: What's interesting is though, eventually the cat runs off and the aunt gets up and kind of runs off in shame because it's implied that while it was an exaggeration, she meant everything she said.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like, you know people think like that all the time.

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not that they mean what they say but it's like feelings that bother them. Like it's, you know, they wouldn't change it or anything, but you know deep down there's always those what if scenarios.

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:09:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But they do end up, it kind of leaves you after that after the funny scene of her like going and crying into a Sarah's hours arms drops of ice cream, which was a great scene because it's just like man child.

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_05]: But it ends up going back and you're not sure if the aunt is going to continue on the journey but then it cuts to all three of them back in the car along with the cats.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yep, and both the cats and things are slightly you know they understand their differences and things have at least he cooled down a bit which is good.

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But eventually on their way after wrecking the car.

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, because the cats the cats talk and it distracts them and then he almost runs into a fucking tanker truck. And they run off the side of the road in like it's not a big crash is just kind of like he ends up going off the course and then it just kind of slides into a ditch, which

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_00]: What causes the sunroof to properly shut he's like hey it's fixed and then the door falls off. Yeah, which is a good moment.

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_00]: What happens then is like Susan is like how far are we I can't be that far out he's like it's like, well she's like it must only be like 10 miles and he's like it's more like double that and she's like oh well I'll go and starts running.

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Finding a bike and then it's like no no I'm coming with you and they end up pedaling together, and they end up making it to her old basically what's left of her old house which is basically just the foundation.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_05]: And she ends up sort of going through the yard and basically finds like a time capsule she left behind.

[01:11:08] [SPEAKER_05]: And she ends up opening like her diary and as she's flipping through it she's like okay there's got to be there's got to be something and then it cuts to like she's flipping through the pages and suddenly it's all drawn out like there's lines all over it like she

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_05]: could walk in she's like no no no but thankfully right before all the drawing like blacking everything out it is a picture she did draw of the door and her experiences like I knew it was real I knew it happened.

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's implied that back in the in the day like after her mother died she had run off because she was a child she didn't get the fact that her mother was gone.

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_05]: She couldn't accept it, you know.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: And she ended up getting lost in the Ever After which is the world that this plane exists on.

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and one of the key things is like we find out to that the chair was actually made by her mother for her and that's why it's very sweet sentimental to her.

[01:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And she had mentioned how like she had lost it once when when she got it back it was missing a leg for some reason.

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But she ends up going.

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, because of the tsunami I'm assuming it got to Sydney.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, the whole house was gone so thankfully the chair survived with the mother's love, but she ends up you know finding finding the door.

[01:12:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We get the greatest scene where like the aunts like Susan may where are you going and she's like bye and then just jumps through the door and just disappears.

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_05]: And what like because she can't she can't see the Ever After or anything.

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And she leaves with the two, Dijine and what's the other cat named?

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Sajin.

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Sajin, yeah.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Or Sajin I think it's.

[01:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Sajin I think it is.

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Sajin.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And they end up going back.

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_05]: They end up going into the world and she ends up you know, and it's actually a very good scene between her and Dijine where Dijine ends up you know going you know this isn't what I want.

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want Susan may to be sad and he ends up sacrificing.

[01:13:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first she gets up to the top of the she climbs up the mountain after dodging the the worm because this is the home of the worm and it's kind of all over the place there.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, because he ends up helping like she and she's just trying to dig him out of like the mountain.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But what's happening is as she's pulling it out, she's getting like crystallized because it's implying that they're going to have to switch places.

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_00]: But as she she's pulling it out, Dijine also kind of gets himself in there and ends up taking its place after she eventually does pull it out and when she does, Soda returns to his human state.

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And then.

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Dijine returns to the crystal.

[01:13:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, the cat stone.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the stone statue, which is, which is really sad.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a good moment but I was sad because I like Dijine.

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_05]: But then they end up working together because Sijine also goes back to its keystone form and then the basically the battle ends with them basically putting the two keystones back in and sealing the worm back in the Everett.

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_05]: And then they end up working together after so it can't come back out.

[01:14:26] [SPEAKER_00]: We also think at that great scene where they pierce both ends of it and that causes it to just.

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_00]: But then we also get the scene that was basically the big because every it's not a Shinkai film without a big Deus Ex Machina moment at the end, where she then runs into her younger self in the Everett after and it's implied the whole time you see like this character that you think to her mother, but then you find out it's actually her.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And she ends up.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, she ends up basically guiding her home but also like talking her through, you know, basically saying like right now really sucks.

[01:15:03] [SPEAKER_05]: But in the future I promise you it'll get better and it'll get easier and you're going to have a wonderful adventure coming up.

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_05]: It is a very touching moment.

[01:15:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And she gives her the chair which is how she gets the chair in the past and like how it disappeared for a while.

[01:15:18] [SPEAKER_05]: And especially to like because it was hard for her to process even at like as an adult like of what to say to her younger self.

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_05]: It was a very good movie moment and Bill kept trying to ruin it and I kept telling him to shut up.

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm trying to watch it so I'm calling you out for your bullshit.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You do the same thing when I watch shows that I can't.

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_05]: That was a good scene though anyways and after that stand believing the ever after.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_05]: And she finds herself with her reunited with her aunt.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And the friend I forget his name.

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_05]: We forget his name but he was like hi but I don't feel like they said his name very often so that's not on us.

[01:16:03] [SPEAKER_05]: It's on the film.

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_05]: It's like Seven Zawas or something.

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but my favorite part is after they get out they have a little heartfelt moment where like everyone basically.

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I just bolt pulled the head.

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But they get this nice heart from over everyone's reunited and then so to basically says I still have to go around and make sure all these doors are closed.

[01:16:24] [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to go off on a journey by myself you need to go home and go back to your life and basically he promises her when he's done he'll come back and see her.

[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Because they both kind of accepted that they love each other at this point.

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So and then we get the best scene my favorite part is the film goes it doesn't go into full credits it goes into like the faux credits where it'll show like some.

[01:16:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It'll speak showing the credits but it will show like flashbacks of their journey back where like they run into like like first off his car breaks down again which is great.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_05]: And they also tape the door shut.

[01:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but then they also run into all the people she met along the way and it's like it's really sweet.

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah is like I'm so sorry thank you for taking care of her.

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_00]: She's partying with the ladies at the club.

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Well the well Susan is playing with the kids now this time without the help of a magic chair.

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And it eventually ends where like she returns back to her normal life and she's now in her final year of high school.

[01:17:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Her and Sonic did not get together.

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_05]: The on and Sonic did not get together.

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_00]: No but she's she's basically it's basically a repeat of the beginning of the movie where she's heading off to her final year of school in her winter uniform now and she's on the bike path and.

[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_00]: She runs into soda.

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_00]: She runs into soda and it basically ends in just a happy note where it's like I promised I came back.

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and then it goes right to credits and it's.

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a sweet ending.

[01:17:56] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very fulfilling story all the way through you love the characters like Susan may is like.

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I love the characters and she guys previous film but I think Susan may might be my favorite like character he's ever done.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah and I think to like the music was it was Radwimps once again which was awesome.

[01:18:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But also like the Susan may song is such a good song.

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm glad it was in the movie quite a bit like not even as like like the whole produce song but even just snippets was really great.

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_05]: It was like like it was very good like I was I was tearing up a little bit at the end like when like in the final climax and when they were coming back and stuff and when she was talking to her younger self like I was like oh this is emotional which it doesn't happen for me a lot so.

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I just love.

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I loved how much of like a growing up story it was where like she goes on this journey and really finds herself and like she discovers everything.

[01:18:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Well also saving the world I love the fact that they managed to put like that side story into this whole like save the world.

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I truly think like this was like the wedding with you.

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Was I feel like it also like I look at that one is like you know he was kind of in this moment like they felt like he had to follow up with like your name.

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't like the how popular your name God and how kind of overshadowed all his other work so he wanted to do something different.

[01:19:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And I feel like this one just was like him just like it felt so much like your name not the story or anything but just like that the feeling that movie gave off of like this is just a wonderful story.

[01:19:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like I love the way like your name ends on that very and it kind of ends on that kind of ambiguous ending where it's like implied that they remembered each other but it's never fully.

[01:19:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, whether it would use that ending. I like that movie but that ending is so fucking annoying because they literally just the Tokyo screwed but hey we found each other.

[01:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Susan may has the best ending of the three because it legit ends on a just happy note.

[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God I want this men joined so badly.

[01:20:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it the one of her chasing the chair.

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:20:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've seen that one.

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's great.

[01:20:14] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, but I love this story. I thought it was excellent.

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I loved Susan may had so many great moments like she was such a relatable likable character like she because she wasn't perfect like she she had her moments where you're like God damn it girl what are you doing.

[01:20:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And I loved her voice actresses performance.

[01:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It was like the only real anime role that I believe she had ever done but she was so good at was excellent.

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Nicole soccer who I believe is actually a big actress and like other media.

[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, sorry she was biting my hand.

[01:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Also the animation in this film was fucking beautiful.

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[01:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we'll save our thoughts for that.

[01:21:04] [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry it's getting angry and it's biting me.

[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll save our thoughts for the end but we have one more film like ever.

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[01:21:12] [SPEAKER_05]: And this one was the Netflix one I mentioned a couple times.

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_05]: This one was a Netflix exclusive anime movie called drifting home or drifting apartment that announces rain, the Japanese title.

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

[01:21:34] [SPEAKER_05]: But this one was a they're calling it coming of age fantasy adventure comedy drama so a lot in one.

[01:21:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Who is it made by was made by Netflix.

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_05]: It was funded by Netflix.

[01:21:50] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes funded by Netflix studio colorido.

[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

[01:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: And it was directed by hero Yasa Ishida.

[01:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know any of their other work.

[01:22:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I guess studio colorido.

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_00]: They've also done a whisker away in my only girl.

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay.

[01:22:21] [SPEAKER_05]: Which I think are also two other.

[01:22:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah they're both on Netflix other Netflix which I've heard great things about a whisker away as well and my only girl.

[01:22:34] [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.

[01:22:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh let's see.

[01:22:37] [SPEAKER_05]: Okay he's done they've done Pokemon.

[01:22:40] [SPEAKER_05]: Animes.

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Pokemon Twilight wings.

[01:22:47] [SPEAKER_05]: At least that's what it looks like.

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_05]: It looks like relatively new newer though.

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So this film the reason we had a few options were trying to pick our third film.

[01:22:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The reason I we had Alex had mentioned this one initially and then when I was looking at the one she'd pick the reason I picked this one was a it had the best ratings but also it the idea just sounded interesting.

[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:23:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean in the art also just looked really nice.

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I also didn't want to do another romance so I figured we go with something that wasn't.

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_05]: No this one was I mean centered around kids.

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah elementary students.

[01:23:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Let's see.

[01:23:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I was trying to see if he directed anything else super noteworthy but nothing mostly just the other two we talked about.

[01:23:43] [SPEAKER_05]: The Penguin Highway and the.

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:23:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So the film this one is very definitely a different tone compared to the other two we watched where it's kind of like it revolves around a group of elementary schools or I think elementary school kids.

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and they're ending their final day of the school year.

[01:24:05] [SPEAKER_05]: A group of elementary school kids but mostly it's centered around two kids.

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:24:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And not too many who are 11 year olds that they basically grow up as siblings voiced by Bryce Happenbrook Aaron Jaeger and Cassandra Lee Morris so to very well known.

[01:24:25] [SPEAKER_05]: That was kind of funny when I kept hearing your talk hearing him talking I was like Aaron Jaeger.

[01:24:31] [SPEAKER_05]: But that was pretty funny.

[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_05]: But what so it's centered mostly around their relationship and they were very close growing up and then they because it was it was shown that not to me had some family issues.

[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Her parents went through a divorce and then she ended up staying with.

[01:24:57] [SPEAKER_05]: Cozakey Cozakey's grandfather.

[01:25:02] [SPEAKER_05]: And their relationship was kind of strained after the death of the grandfather.

[01:25:08] [SPEAKER_00]: The death of the grandfather also keeping in mind their kids.

[01:25:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah they're kids.

[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Kids go through.

[01:25:14] [SPEAKER_00]: We were kids when you become older you don't like the people you used to like it.

[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just how it is.

[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_05]: No I don't I don't even think it was really that with them though I think they just had this.

[01:25:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But I felt that relationship felt very real in the sense though like you get older and it's just that you've kind of drift apart for a while it's just kind of a thing that happens.

[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:25:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But one of the big things is that in the story is that not to me is struggling a lot harder with accepting the grandfather's death.

[01:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:25:49] [SPEAKER_05]: And a lot of it is actually coming from some guilt that she's harboring that she she feels and we'll kind of talk about it later.

[01:25:57] [SPEAKER_05]: But because of that like so they basically grew up in these different apartment complexes and now they're going to be tearing them down but she keeps visiting the complexes and they're kind of known as these ghost housing complexes they got ghosts in them.

[01:26:13] [SPEAKER_05]: And it turns out that she kind of keeps visiting them to see someone named no bow.

[01:26:20] [SPEAKER_05]: And eventually at one point all of their gang of friends a couple of them end up going and searching the place to look first go ghost hunting.

[01:26:31] [SPEAKER_05]: Which they are really cute cast of characters.

[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I love all of the characters in this movie because they are they are literally like the perfect one thing I hate and stuff like this is like they'll have like these kid characters but they they write them like adults and it just feels weird.

[01:26:49] [SPEAKER_00]: These kids are fucking kids like they are so spot on personality wise like one of them we meet also named.

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Rina who is like kind of like the preppy like rich girl.

[01:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: She is such a bitch and I love it.

[01:27:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Like she is so fucking spot on character wise it's not even funny.

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_05]: She I really enjoyed.

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I really liked all of them.

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_05]: But eventually they end up you know at one point they all end up on the roof the main group of friends.

[01:27:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of get into an argument like children do.

[01:27:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Well it ends up being centered around at first it's kind of the tension between not to me and Rina of just like you know kids being kids.

[01:27:34] [SPEAKER_05]: Rina has a crush on Kozake and doesn't understand what women are yet it's not to make her less.

[01:27:41] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah but then it evolves into Kozake and not to me having a argument in a physical fight over when he discovers that she's holding onto a camera.

[01:27:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Which this camera happens to be his grandfather's camera and he kind of wants it that because he's like that's my grandfather's camera.

[01:28:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been looking for that.

[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_05]: Why do you have that ends up leading into a strain which the fighting ends up turning into like it starts down pouring out of the building.

[01:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Well first she falls first she ends up falling off the side of the building.

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_05]: Well well first I was going to go into like it starts down pouring their fighting.

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_05]: She's trying to get away to get the camera of her hand and she ends up climbing up this post and then suddenly at the top of the post she ends up losing her balance.

[01:28:27] [SPEAKER_05]: Kozake tries to catch her.

[01:28:29] [SPEAKER_05]: She ends up falling and suddenly a giant torrent of water just comes down and when everyone comes to they find they discover that their apartment complex is now just floating in the middle of the sea like they even look below it and they see that like.

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_05]: There's nothing below the building.

[01:28:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah this is such a weird supernatural thing to me like I'm still not exactly sure what's going on here but for the sake of the film I got to just let it go.

[01:28:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Well so what I took it as is that these floating because they end up running into other floating structures along the way.

[01:29:08] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them were structures that were destroyed in the past.

[01:29:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Well to me what I put them as is that these structures are all memories from the past whether they be good or bad that the characters have some sort of connection to and with all these memories is almost a.

[01:29:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Not all of them have them but some of them do and it ends up getting revealed later on is that there's a person that's kind of tying these memories today that's been watching out and looking after them and has been you know helping them along the way.

[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's where kind of noble comes in he's not necessarily it's never really revealed if he actually lived in the apartment at one point and was someone who like died or something it's never really spoken like that.

[01:29:56] [SPEAKER_05]: Well it's more of just he's like this almost like guardian watching over not staying close OK.

[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Well because we find out later that there's more characters like him.

[01:30:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah that's what I was talking about with the buildings is that there's more of these almost guardians but all of these different in this other world all of these buildings have some sort of meaning and some sort of like memory behind them.

[01:30:22] [SPEAKER_05]: Because of course at the beginning like they're just like OK like we'll survive you know we'll put SOS symbols out and we need to just find some food will be OK.

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_05]: My favorite line is well at first it's not even that's like OK we have enough food will survive someone will rescue us and then eventually it turns into not that my favorite line is still would read as like I have to use the bathroom.

[01:30:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And then the kids just like just go pee in the ocean.

[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That's disgusting.

[01:30:52] [SPEAKER_05]: It's not even really the ocean which is funny.

[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I love her a lot reason she's like that's disgusting.

[01:30:59] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember all the jokes but like the group of kids like it's their kids.

[01:31:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And it is so well written in that regard.

[01:31:07] [SPEAKER_05]: But what ends up happening is that eventually they do are running out of food and they're noticing that buildings are kind of passing by and Kosike gets the idea of like OK I'm going to throw rope and get to that building.

[01:31:23] [SPEAKER_05]: So he ends up getting over there not to me somehow follows him.

[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know how she did it doesn't really show how but she ends up following him there and they end up going through the building and then they find out that this building oh it's it was the old like swimming recreation building.

[01:31:37] [SPEAKER_05]: That they used to go to that was basically turned down and demolished.

[01:31:41] [SPEAKER_05]: So it's a building of memory and they're like OK there's got to be some food in here.

[01:31:45] [SPEAKER_05]: They run upstairs eventually they're like oh there's a vending machine.

[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_05]: They find a vending machine.

[01:31:50] [SPEAKER_05]: They can open the vending machine but thankfully they end up finding an emergency kit but not to me it doesn't get hurt during that time.

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But also the building is starting to get separated from they have to go now or else they're going to yeah not make it.

[01:32:05] [SPEAKER_05]: So they run back with their food.

[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_05]: They have a bit more food to survive but eventually it gets to the same boat of like OK we need more food.

[01:32:14] [SPEAKER_05]: But they also discover too I think before this point that no who isn't human.

[01:32:19] [SPEAKER_00]: No he's like this weird spirit creature thing.

[01:32:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah he's like I like to put it as like he's like the guardian of the of their memories basically of that.

[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll save my theory from when we get to the point where it's relevant but I have a theory on what's exactly going on here.

[01:32:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yes it's not very ambiguous which is kind of like I like it because it kind of leaves it up to the person but eventually they get to another building.

[01:32:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But Noppo feels responsible like he feels like he's like they don't trust him so he wants to help this time he decides he's going to go with them this time to their next building excursion.

[01:32:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing is though this time the building starts crashing into each other and damaging well.

[01:33:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think a part of that too was that when they go in the building not to my efforts are like OK we got to get food but not to my ends of kind of going she's like oh I know this building and she's ends up running down to like a toy shop.

[01:33:20] [SPEAKER_00]: And she does this a lot throughout the world.

[01:33:24] [SPEAKER_05]: Well but this one I feel like the buildings falling apart is almost symbolic to you because like her memories like they're talking about oh like did you like this store and she's like no I hate I hate this store.

[01:33:37] [SPEAKER_05]: And then she brings up the memory of like her as a child it was her birthday she went to get a present and then her parents end up just fighting and they left with no present at all.

[01:33:47] [SPEAKER_05]: So it ended up just becoming a bad memory.

[01:33:49] [SPEAKER_05]: So like when the building start colliding and falling apart to me that kind of was symbolizing like you know it wasn't a good memory it was a bad memory and it was like the family almost symbolizing family breaking.

[01:34:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah which was really good symbolism but they end up having to get back to their original their house the apartment complex because and they don't get any food.

[01:34:14] [SPEAKER_00]: But during this whole scuffle the rest of the kids are up on the roof and because of the storm that's going on what ends up happening is one of the girls ends up falling off the edge but she tries to go and get like this.

[01:34:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was Jerry.

[01:34:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The other girl who is a Reena is like only real friend.

[01:34:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I believe Jerry.

[01:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she ends up falling off and in the process like they end up going to save her and when they're going to save her she ends up getting kind of thrown into the building rather than down into the water and it ends up she ends up hitting her head really hard.

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile the rest of them fall into the water but unlike before the water there's like a weird black void that just kind of destroys everything down there now.

[01:34:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's like it's not real they're not really in the ocean at this point if they haven't figured it out they know now.

[01:35:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but what ends up happening is they end up getting out of the water but a popo has to go like save them by because I don't know what's the girls name again.

[01:35:21] [SPEAKER_03]: The main.

[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_00]: That's me.

[01:35:23] [SPEAKER_00]: That's me.

[01:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: That's me ends up getting caught by the void and like it gets her shoe and topo busy ways to go down and basically pull her out of it but in the process, the void gets one of topos ankles.

[01:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's where we find out that he's not human because he is his ankle foot is gone and it's literally just a piece of rebar now.

[01:35:42] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:35:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Because he's kind of the building spirit.

[01:35:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:35:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So then of course, the one I like Rena as a character because she's real but also the same time she is so prone to just being a bitch at all times.

[01:35:58] [SPEAKER_05]: You do have to remember that she isn't a very stressful situation of like, well, yeah, like, jury is there's a moment before that where Jerry told her to shut the fuck up basically.

[01:36:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Well, no, it wasn't even that like Jerry had a moment of like they really connected and they were like listen like I care about you and I'm here for you and like it was a moment of like where right.

[01:36:23] [SPEAKER_05]: Raina finally realized that like Jerry is her true friend and will always be there for her and it was a very sweet moment so when Jerry got hurt.

[01:36:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Raina was very upset like she was like this wouldn't have happened if we weren't doing this like right now like, and she's frustrated and she knows like that she's been reeled into the situation of this past because.

[01:36:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I mean this memory in these buildings like it's kind of all based off of not may not being able to you know accept the grandfather steps so she's kind of rolled into this mess she doesn't want to be in.

[01:36:58] [SPEAKER_05]: So I can I don't really consider her being bitchy I just consider her being like very stressed out in a situation that like it doesn't seem like there's any hope you know did you freeze.

[01:37:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, oh, Bill Rose.

[01:37:38] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what to do.

[01:37:44] [SPEAKER_05]: Bill is not here.

[01:37:46] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to do.

[01:37:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Bill is not here.

[01:37:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Bill disappeared.

[01:37:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to do.

[01:37:56] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what to do.

[01:37:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Bill's Wi-Fi went out.

[01:38:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for that song.

[01:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Alex that was that was really wonderful.

[01:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah my Wi-Fi completely shit the bed right there so sorry for that little gap will be we'll be right back.

[01:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay I'm back.

[01:38:22] [SPEAKER_05]: And then I started getting distracted and I started watching tiktoks.

[01:38:26] [SPEAKER_05]: Let me close that.

[01:38:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm gonna have to this.

[01:38:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

[01:38:32] [SPEAKER_05]: I think around 135 song right there.

[01:38:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[01:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sorry about that everybody the Wi-Fi Wi-Fi just fucking shat itself.

[01:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Wonderful. Thank God.

[01:38:43] [SPEAKER_05]: Bill's did.

[01:38:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm still talking for quite a bit until I finally looked over and noticed your face was just you going.

[01:38:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Great.

[01:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll fix it later.

[01:38:55] [SPEAKER_05]: I won't see it.

[01:38:56] [SPEAKER_05]: But we're almost done with the story but basically where we kind of left off is that they had this big conflict but it basically ends up with them going like this building in the middle.

[01:39:06] [SPEAKER_05]: This is not going to last we got to get out of here.

[01:39:10] [SPEAKER_05]: Which leads to a bunch of arguing so.

[01:39:13] [SPEAKER_05]: No bow needs to stay behind no bow needs to come with us and it's kind of a battle.

[01:39:19] [SPEAKER_05]: But it ends up with them they build a raft they all get in it.

[01:39:26] [SPEAKER_05]: No bow doesn't go with them not to make us back after no bow when she did that I got why she did but I was like are you fucking kidding me.

[01:39:33] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was a little bit to us again in the fucking right but she goes back after no bow and then Kosaka also goes back to no bow.

[01:39:41] [SPEAKER_05]: And at the same time the other kids end up being drifted to a different island which ends up being one of a ferris wheel which ends up help kind of revealing with the story because it ends up.

[01:39:53] [SPEAKER_05]: Being an island that is special to Raina because she went on that ferris wheel with her dad and she had very happy memories so they end up running into I believe the characters really just called get the first wheel spirit.

[01:40:07] [SPEAKER_05]: She doesn't really have a name, but she ends up helping them and they all end up getting reunited again.

[01:40:13] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the most ridiculous scenes in the movie but I fucking loved it where they use a fucking like line, a tide to the ferris wheel to attach it to the building like the antenna building and they somehow pull the entire building back up, floating again.

[01:40:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't you don't need to know it's it's all it's all a metaphor like this is all metaphorical shit, but it was just watching that scene I was like what the fuck is this even supposed to be.

[01:40:39] [SPEAKER_05]: And they all end up back on the building and the building is drifting.

[01:40:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Eventually they finally reach this land that they've seen in like the distance for the entire time.

[01:40:50] [SPEAKER_00]: And when they get there they realize this isn't other kids there.

[01:40:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they realize real quick like this isn't actually like the world.

[01:40:58] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like a land of like all the spirits because it's another character just like Topo.

[01:41:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Topo basically tells no bow.

[01:41:05] [SPEAKER_04]: No, no, but whatever.

[01:41:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Tree boy tree boy.

[01:41:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Basically what happens is like he tells them all like this is where I am off like our journey is completed here.

[01:41:19] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like these are where I this is where I belong.

[01:41:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But don't worry these the electricity powers that I have because he has this weird power of like spirit power is going to guide you guys home.

[01:41:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And the way I interpreted this was the entire story is essentially this is a giant metaphor for like you have emotional baggage and you have to learn to let go.

[01:41:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is essentially Topo going to his little land of his people is literally the metaphor that this is like they're letting she's finally letting go of her and it's all finally well it was like so no bow was trying to help you know as much as she could because he said.

[01:42:01] [SPEAKER_05]: He saw that not to me was hurting and was coming back to the apartment, but he also kind of realized that he's a rapper also hurting her as well because she wasn't letting go.

[01:42:11] [SPEAKER_05]: So this was like his time of like okay she needed to move on and she needed to accept that you know grandpa is not coming back.

[01:42:18] [SPEAKER_05]: But those memories and like yes the building will be taken down but you'll always have those memories with him you'll always have that connection.

[01:42:26] [SPEAKER_05]: A building doesn't symbolize that it's a it's okay for things to move on and for things to go away.

[01:42:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It's literally one big metaphor for essentially like the way I found Noppo is like he's essentially like the metaphor of like he is the baggage that is basically trying to like he's trying to like push her away and like make her move on from him.

[01:42:51] [SPEAKER_05]: Well he to me he was the symbol he was he was the symbolization like the humanization of her memories and her joy of living in those apartments.

[01:43:02] [SPEAKER_05]: That's what it was to me.

[01:43:05] [SPEAKER_05]: And it was okay to you know let him go let him you know rest the building's gonna leave but she'll still always have Noppo there might not physically be there but Noppo will always be there in her heart, which I thought was really good and it closes where they end up going back.

[01:43:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I love this scene because before they get back they like the the the the the apartment like then starts flying through the sky.

[01:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like this fantastical they basically had the animators wanted to do this fun scene which was admittedly really pretty to watch.

[01:43:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But basically it flies into like space and they're all like basically happy because they finally accepted everything and then it just kind of cuts back to it's just where it was like it like happened.

[01:43:50] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know that it did happen because the parents were like looking for them.

[01:43:54] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah well it wasn't that the apartment was drifting at sea but like they well I mean they had disappeared you know they were on a building for a while so they did like disappear for that period of time.

[01:44:07] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing is it's implied that it was essentially they were just in the apartments the entire time and the entire thing was like a metaphor, but then we find out at the end he had the camera and all the pictures are still there.

[01:44:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like so it's like no it happened.

[01:44:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand it I don't think we're supposed to understand it.

[01:44:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it left you with that like I don't know where to go from there, like, there's definitely always but they'll always also keep those memories with them and learn from them but I really enjoyed the story I thought it was very different.

[01:44:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I like that it was, you know a younger cast of characters but also really, you know, like the concept of like, you know, brief and, you know, regret memories you leave behind.

[01:44:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It was very smartly written.

[01:44:54] [SPEAKER_00]: The characters were very realistic for their ages which is something that I appreciate because a lot of enemies have this problem where they write the younger characters to all.

[01:45:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[01:45:05] [SPEAKER_05]: No but it's also like something I think people can relate to.

[01:45:08] [SPEAKER_05]: Like I know for me especially like I have that one full picture frame of like Tilly.

[01:45:16] [SPEAKER_05]: And like, I have so many pictures of her in my old apartment, like if anything happened to those apartments I would probably feel the same way like those memories as attachments like you know I had Tilly there for the longest time like it.

[01:45:32] [SPEAKER_05]: It'll never like burn her back but it's always like something that I have of her you know so I could relate with it especially as someone who's moved from place to place to place, you know a couple times.

[01:45:44] [SPEAKER_05]: You know.

[01:45:45] [SPEAKER_00]: No it was a really effective movie especially something that I had no expectations for because I got a wim because it looked interesting.

[01:45:52] [SPEAKER_05]: And to like I mean it was this Netflix movie with like a studio we've never heard of I mean had some great voice actors in there but for the most part like you didn't know who wrote it or anything but it was just like hey let's give the shot to read this listen to the story and honestly I thought it was better than the boy in the hair.

[01:46:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah if I'm going to rank the three of them it was definitely susan may drifting home and then boy in the herring.

[01:46:18] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I can't say it really wasn't a fan of the boy in the herring like I was just.

[01:46:26] [SPEAKER_00]: It was one of Miyazaki's weaker films in my opinion.

[01:46:29] [SPEAKER_04]: I agree.

[01:46:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I gave it a seven I gave susan may a solid nine and I gave drifting home and eight out of the three.

[01:46:38] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I gave susan may a nine as well.

[01:46:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I gave drifting home and eight and I gave boy in the herring a six.

[01:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah like.

[01:46:51] [SPEAKER_05]: I just didn't think it was that great.

[01:46:53] [SPEAKER_00]: See my my thing is for me to give something a six I have to really not like it and I didn't hate.

[01:46:59] [SPEAKER_05]: Oh I give things six all the time.

[01:47:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I'm more generous by rankings.

[01:47:05] [SPEAKER_05]: Well maybe I go by the mal raising ratings which like a six on mal is like just.

[01:47:12] [SPEAKER_00]: See I use any list primarily so like that in any list is a bit more their rating systems a bit more refined where it's not one through 10 it's actually like percentage based so you can give like 95s if you want.

[01:47:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah sorry something popped up on my thing that didn't want to pop up.

[01:47:36] [SPEAKER_05]: What was I going to say yeah I think like a six is like a it's like a fine.

[01:47:42] [SPEAKER_05]: I think it was like six was fine and that's honestly how I felt about the point I didn't think it was great but I was fine for me if something bad I give it like a four or like a three so I don't consider six but I think we're on the same page our ratings might not be exactly the same but yeah I just didn't think it was a good one.

[01:48:03] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think it was that great.

[01:48:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was terrible but yeah it was definitely my least favorite of the three I found it to be the hype for it kind of I found it to be disappointing in that sense because people hyped it up like it was really good and I kind of was like yeah I mean it was fine.

[01:48:20] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I feel like to like that's one of the main problems too is like it was hype but also like after you know after the boy and after the wind rises like.

[01:48:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The wind rises to me as a masterpiece like that is like as good a movie as you can get the expectations were so high and then I mean even Ponyo's better and Ponyo is such a kid movie.

[01:48:46] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah I mean I really liked Ponyo I thought it was a really cute story I don't know I just I there was I would rather watch so many other jibbly.

[01:48:56] [SPEAKER_00]: I literally watched wind rises spirits spirit it away Porcarosa house moving castle even Ponyo toro toro I'd watch like all of those before I watch.

[01:49:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah boy in the herring again.

[01:49:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:49:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Nozaka Nozaka how can you not.

[01:49:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Nozaka is a classic.

[01:49:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said though.

[01:49:19] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[01:49:19] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to redo my top 10 movies now because Susan may might actually be in there.

[01:49:26] [SPEAKER_05]: No definitely Susan may was excellent.

[01:49:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I need to I don't have to shoot films on my top 10 list but I might have to because Susan may was so fucking good.

[01:49:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It was really good like I weird because my what makes me even better to me is my expectations weren't super high because.

[01:49:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I thought your name was going to be his peak and then everything else after would just kind of be like.

[01:49:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Good but not amazing because weathering with you great film don't like it as much as your name Susan may I am it's it's so close to your name that I'm like actually are not sure which one I think is better.

[01:50:03] [SPEAKER_05]: No I I'd say for me like it's.

[01:50:08] [SPEAKER_05]: It's Susan may your name or like.

[01:50:12] [SPEAKER_05]: It's a toss up.

[01:50:13] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like you're kind of depends on what I'm feeling to watch that day but I break pretty evenly.

[01:50:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said I have to go back and watch all the other Shinkai films at some point now because.

[01:50:25] [SPEAKER_05]: I had to do a Shinkai reference perspective at some point.

[01:50:29] [SPEAKER_05]: That's not a nine.

[01:50:30] [SPEAKER_00]: No that's a plan at some point but like it's like five centimeters per second I've heard is like a masterpiece in itself as well.

[01:50:38] So.

[01:50:40] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I guess we're going to finally wrap it up with the thoughts on drifting home.

[01:50:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I think we are kind of close to our kind of just now but I like yeah honestly as like a movie I had zero expectations for I really enjoyed it I thought it was a great story.

[01:50:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I highly recommend checking you know like I'd say so they say watch Susan may and.

[01:51:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Rising.

[01:51:05] [SPEAKER_00]: The drifting home because literally both of them are on Netflix easy to find of Susan may is also on a country roll.

[01:51:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Very easy to watch both of them have great stories and yeah I highly recommend both of those.

[01:51:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:51:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah so I guess that'll wrap it up for this episode of gaming and collecting.

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