G&C Podcast - Episode 189: The Relaxing World Of Puzzle Games!

[00:00:00] Hey everybody! On this episode of Gaming Collecting, me and Alex are going to be jumping into the relaxing world of puzzle video games,

[00:00:07] including some of the old ones we played back on our old handheld systems and later on mobile phones and other consoles.

[00:00:13] It is a fun conversation and a fun blast of the past. And anyways guys, on with the show!

[00:01:06] She's got a brain freeze.

[00:01:09] I mean, a popsicle by the way.

[00:01:12] I think they understand that at this point.

[00:01:14] Maybe they don't.

[00:01:17] Waaah!

[00:01:18] Jesus!

[00:01:20] Ms. Poo has just got...she has one of those tubes that they run in and they go whoop whoop whoop and she discovered hers this week.

[00:01:28] And she hasn't stopped discovering it and every day I come home it's in a new spot.

[00:01:33] Like how did that get there? I don't know.

[00:01:35] But she runs through it. She's currently in it.

[00:01:38] Oh no, she's not. I thought I saw her. She's standing near it waiting for her next chance to run through it.

[00:01:46] So, I have another great Amazon story for the week.

[00:01:50] Oh boy what happened?

[00:01:52] You know how when you buy a manga usually it comes in a packaging that says do not bend?

[00:01:57] Yeah, let me guess they bent it.

[00:01:59] To fit it in my mailbox they like creased it in half.

[00:02:04] A book?

[00:02:06] Yep.

[00:02:07] Did you send that a picture to Amazon?

[00:02:10] They don't give a shit.

[00:02:13] They'll replace it if they see that.

[00:02:16] It was a third party seller so...

[00:02:19] Oh see that's why I don't buy them through the third party.

[00:02:22] See here's the problem though. Sometimes you'll buy it thinking it's Amazon Prime and then they'll redirect it to a third party seller and they'll be like, sorry.

[00:02:32] That sucks.

[00:02:33] Yeah so I have it pressed in between some volumes to flatten it but yeah that was wonderful.

[00:02:41] Thanks Amazon.

[00:02:46] Sorry.

[00:02:47] No that's fine. It's just like I got it out of the mailbox. I was like are you kidding me?

[00:02:53] Yeah it surprised me what they're trying to shove in the mailbox because I got a closed order from somewhere and I was expecting it to be in the bigger one

[00:03:01] and then I opened mine and I was like Jesus they literally shoved it in and ripped part of the bag it came in.

[00:03:09] The worst I ever had was I had a box, I think it was a die cast car, like NASCAR die cast.

[00:03:16] The exact size of my mailbox. They just shoved it in there. I'm like great how am I supposed to get it out?

[00:03:23] I had to go back to the house and get fucking spoons for like a ruler and just kind of like pry it out.

[00:03:31] I'm like are you fucking kidding me?

[00:03:38] It's like I feel bad for them but at the same time I don't.

[00:03:47] Yeah so anything fun happen to you?

[00:03:50] This week, I'm not gonna lie this week's been pretty shit but you know we're just gonna keep on.

[00:03:57] Oh did I tell you? Oh god they're sticking out the two anyways.

[00:04:02] Did I tell you my story about one of these drinks? Yeah these drinks from Costco.

[00:04:07] The one who splattered all over the floor?

[00:04:08] Yeah yeah that's the story. I did tell you. Well I'll tell you the podcast.

[00:04:12] I went upstairs for five minutes. I put this drink on my little side table next to my couch.

[00:04:19] I come back downstairs and I go and sit on my couch and I go grab my drink and I'm like where the fuck is my drink?

[00:04:25] And I look on the ground, it's on the fucking ground there's drink everywhere.

[00:04:28] This little shit knocked it over so now she loses privileges.

[00:04:32] I can't leave anything out because she's a monster.

[00:04:36] Well into the wonderful world of owning a cat.

[00:04:38] Yeah but the drinks are pretty good. They're not super sweet which I like.

[00:04:46] They're sparkling waters by Chi Forest. This one is light Chi Fizzy.

[00:04:53] It's naturally flavored. Take that off the screen.

[00:04:57] It's 11.16 fluid ounces, 330 milliliters.

[00:05:02] I wasn't even planning on doing this but then you started groaning and then I was like oh I might as well read the facts.

[00:05:09] It's less than 1% juice. It's serving size is one can. It's zero calories with zero sugars.

[00:05:18] You can recycle it and get a little cash back in many of the places that do that.

[00:05:25] One being CT, it gives me the hiccups. What else is interesting when I'm here?

[00:05:31] One being CT. You could just say Connecticut.

[00:05:35] No I read exactly off the can. It's total fat zero grams has 50 milligrams of sodium, five grams of carbs, zero sugars and five grams of aerowatting.

[00:05:53] And potassium. Hey you turned the shit off. This is very important. What else can I read on here?

[00:06:00] It's naturally flavored. It's distributed. Just turn that fucking thing off.

[00:06:08] Turn it off. I'm reading more out of spite now. It's best before the printed date on the package.

[00:06:16] That was all. I think you should get me some nice funner music.

[00:06:24] Here's my solution. Anytime you start reading the labels, I'm just going to have the buckbumble music start playing.

[00:06:29] No. Anything but that. You're not going to waste your time doing that.

[00:06:36] I will ruin it for you.

[00:06:37] No. You better not. You won't waste your time. I don't believe you. You're all bluff. You're going to forget.

[00:06:47] Yeah. This week has been one of those weeks where so we're going into our company shut down next week.

[00:06:54] So it's like, oh you are doing that.

[00:06:57] Yeah. And the power is going to be out on Monday. So we're all going to screwed out of a day of work. That's fun.

[00:07:04] The whole thing's a mess but they're going to come. But you have something fun this weekend.

[00:07:09] We do. We're going to retro world this weekend by the time this episode comes out,

[00:07:13] which we're already over but that's besides the point.

[00:07:16] Yes.

[00:07:17] We're going to meet up with Snickerman so that would be fun to see him.

[00:07:21] You're going to find some water bottles.

[00:07:22] You're going to attempt to.

[00:07:24] I bet I'll find more than five.

[00:07:28] Lovely. And I'm going to probably spend too much money on video games again.

[00:07:33] Yeah, probably. I mean you have a problem.

[00:07:37] She's rolling in the tube right now.

[00:07:40] Good.

[00:07:43] Yeah.

[00:07:46] So you'll have Monday off.

[00:07:48] They should like to be able to recover from the, you know, the fun weekend.

[00:07:52] Yeah, it'll be it. I mean it's nice but it's going to suck not getting paid for Monday,

[00:07:56] especially coming out.

[00:07:57] That sucks.

[00:07:58] Unless you want to use a vacation day, which I don't really want to do.

[00:08:04] Yeah.

[00:08:05] Sorry.

[00:08:06] Yeah, it's fine.

[00:08:08] I know I'm taking the Monday after, well, I'm taking the Monday before the long,

[00:08:12] well, I'm assuming you guys have the full week off.

[00:08:15] I'm taking that the Friday next Friday, not this Friday,

[00:08:19] but next Friday off because I'm getting.

[00:08:22] We don't have the whole week off.

[00:08:23] We have to work the entire week.

[00:08:24] It's a shutdown but we're technically still working so.

[00:08:28] Yeah.

[00:08:29] It was a shutdown for everyone but you.

[00:08:33] Just you.

[00:08:34] Bill's going to be the only person in the building.

[00:08:36] He's going to be doing all the work.

[00:08:38] He's going to be sweeping the floor, painting the ceilings,

[00:08:40] doing the Spider-Man crawl on the floor,

[00:08:43] not the ceiling because he's not literally if I was the only person in the

[00:08:47] building.

[00:08:48] I feel like you wouldn't be Spider-Man.

[00:08:51] I feel like you'd be Roachman.

[00:08:53] Did I tell the story about past the Roach on the podcast?

[00:08:56] No, I'm frightened.

[00:08:58] So this happened a while back.

[00:09:00] We found a dead cockroach.

[00:09:02] No, no, I'm sorry.

[00:09:04] She was she's in her tube and the whole you know there's like a hole on the

[00:09:08] side of it.

[00:09:09] She's sitting standing up in it and she leans over and she just face

[00:09:13] planted onto the floor.

[00:09:15] Facebook first.

[00:09:17] This is so distracting.

[00:09:18] I'm so sorry.

[00:09:19] Your cat's very dumb.

[00:09:21] Wait, but can you hold up?

[00:09:22] Let's see if you can see.

[00:09:23] I know the viewers can't see, but do you see the tube?

[00:09:27] No, I see your computer screen.

[00:09:29] See that?

[00:09:31] No.

[00:09:33] It's too dark.

[00:09:35] It's too dark.

[00:09:37] We tried.

[00:09:39] No, but we were at um, we found a dead cockroach when we were cleaning

[00:09:43] up so rather than you know dispose of it like a normal person,

[00:09:48] we decided to play hide the roach and we would hide it on people's

[00:09:51] desks.

[00:09:51] See how long until they discovered it.

[00:09:53] And it sat on one of my coworkers desk for most of the day.

[00:09:57] Oh my goodness.

[00:09:58] Did I tell you about what my intern did as a final prank to one

[00:10:02] of the guys in the engineering office?

[00:10:06] No.

[00:10:07] So as a fact, she'd been pranking him the whole time and

[00:10:10] she got really creative like her first big one was that she

[00:10:14] made these silly wanted posters of him and she made it like him

[00:10:19] as a cowboy and gave him a mustache and then put wanted

[00:10:23] two dollars reward to dollars.

[00:10:26] And then she put them up around the ME office and it took

[00:10:30] like half the day for him to notice and also took us putting

[00:10:34] it like on his computer screen for him to notice.

[00:10:38] And then after that, she did a bunch of other smaller ones

[00:10:43] but then like to go out with a bang for her internship.

[00:10:48] She decorated his desk with caution tape and then put like a someone

[00:10:53] stole a scissors so she made like a reward poster like a missing

[00:10:56] poster and then she got socks with his face on them and wore

[00:11:02] them for the day and he didn't notice until she had to pretend

[00:11:06] to limp and have her be like, Oh, I think my ankle spring.

[00:11:10] Can you take a look for him to notice?

[00:11:11] But the last one and best one was he bikes every day to work.

[00:11:17] So I helped her on this.

[00:11:20] So we went and we decorated his bike and made it princess style.

[00:11:25] So we got him like a little bike tassels, a little bike basket,

[00:11:30] a little bell, some lights for his wheels.

[00:11:33] We put a bunch of ribbon on it.

[00:11:35] We got him with princess crown and then we got a pink license plate

[00:11:41] that said Princess Jason.

[00:11:44] Oh, wait, Princess Jason, the rule.

[00:11:47] It's fine. Many people are named.

[00:11:49] Yeah, it was wonderful.

[00:11:52] It was so funny and we're doing it and like he parks it by

[00:11:55] the tool room.

[00:11:56] So all the guys in the tool room are just like looking over

[00:11:59] and just start dying when they see it happening because

[00:12:03] they're like, Oh, this is great.

[00:12:04] Like messing with Jason.

[00:12:07] Did he want us to do action?

[00:12:09] So the best part is we finished doing it and we start walking

[00:12:13] back and then we see him coming towards us and we go, Shit,

[00:12:16] we got to make sure like he's going to go see it.

[00:12:18] So we run into the nearest conference room,

[00:12:20] which is right down that we pass him and walk into the

[00:12:23] conference room or like he passes us.

[00:12:26] He almost stopped.

[00:12:27] He looks at us, but then just walks away.

[00:12:29] And then after he walks away,

[00:12:30] we quickly run out the conference room behind him and then just

[00:12:34] sneak up on him to see his reaction.

[00:12:36] And then we just see him stop and just go, My boy.

[00:12:42] And all the guys in the tool room just start dying.

[00:12:47] And like he's like, What did you do?

[00:12:50] And I'm like, We made this break.

[00:12:53] Yeah, I'm sure that went well.

[00:12:55] Oh, it went.

[00:12:57] Did he at least ride it home like that?

[00:12:59] No, we tried to get him to do a lap in the park.

[00:13:02] We did get him to put the helmet on with the princess crown,

[00:13:05] which was great.

[00:13:05] We got a photo of that, but no, he wouldn't ride it.

[00:13:08] I read it in the parking lot, which where I work,

[00:13:12] I wouldn't blame him for not doing it going outside on that

[00:13:16] just because it's not the safest place to live.

[00:13:20] Working is fine, but I wouldn't live there.

[00:13:23] We'll just go with that.

[00:13:25] But yeah, it was great.

[00:13:26] It was just the perfect timing of like,

[00:13:29] we leave, he starts coming down and we just see the reaction

[00:13:32] in real time.

[00:13:35] I'll send you a picture after it was so funny or maybe I'll post

[00:13:40] one in the server when the steps comes out.

[00:13:43] Should have blurred his face out.

[00:13:44] No, he's not in.

[00:13:45] I'll just put the picture of the bike.

[00:13:47] Yeah.

[00:13:48] I won't post the one of his face.

[00:13:50] Yeah.

[00:13:51] That would be rude, but oh my God, it was, it was so funny

[00:13:55] and so many people were in on it.

[00:13:58] See, that doesn't happen at where I work because everyone

[00:14:01] at Gray workers fucking miserable.

[00:14:05] I'm sorry.

[00:14:06] Would you like a minion freeze minion popsicle?

[00:14:10] No, right now pick one up for my place.

[00:14:12] We could do a little podcast break.

[00:14:14] I could tell people my dad jokes.

[00:14:17] I don't have the book anymore, but I can go grab it for you.

[00:14:20] I know you should.

[00:14:21] We should bring up the news that came out yesterday.

[00:14:25] What news?

[00:14:26] You two Kaisen's ending in five.

[00:14:28] Oh yeah, it's crazy because like they were talking about like

[00:14:32] the new big three, which was being like.

[00:14:36] Did you two Kaiser my hero?

[00:14:39] I hear demons layer demons layer in like black.

[00:14:42] Well, demon slayer believe was already finished before this.

[00:14:44] I don't know.

[00:14:45] I can't remember, but that one's been for a while.

[00:14:48] They would they were well, the thing about black level is

[00:14:50] it was never really one of the big three.

[00:14:52] It was always like the weird, like.

[00:14:55] Strull one.

[00:14:57] But it's funny though, like, well, oh, you go first.

[00:15:01] I'll say, but I was just going to say, like it's weird how like.

[00:15:04] It's weird because we're we're we're older.

[00:15:07] So we were around during like the original like big three,

[00:15:10] which was bleach Naruto and one piece.

[00:15:13] All of what you're still doing.

[00:15:16] Going strong.

[00:15:18] I mean, one piece is still going.

[00:15:19] I mean, I think Naruto has a sequel series and I don't know

[00:15:22] what's going on with bleach that the anime is still going.

[00:15:25] I know that.

[00:15:26] Yeah.

[00:15:26] Well, I saw some funny memes of like we have our new big three

[00:15:30] and it was one piece live action regular one, like the

[00:15:33] regular one piece and then the one piece remake.

[00:15:36] And I was like, but yeah, big thing.

[00:15:39] It's just funny though, because like the new generation

[00:15:42] of anime fans and manga fans, it's like.

[00:15:45] It's just weird how like this new series are over already.

[00:15:48] Well, I just wonder if like we're ever going to have

[00:15:51] something like one piece.

[00:15:53] I feel like it just won't happen anymore.

[00:15:56] I don't know.

[00:15:57] Like I just I don't see it happening.

[00:15:59] So like from everything I've seen, like my academia

[00:16:03] ended on a pretty it ended where it should have ended.

[00:16:08] Dude, I like the ending.

[00:16:10] I don't know.

[00:16:10] I haven't fully read it, but I've seen like spoilers

[00:16:12] and stuff and I'm like, I think probably the

[00:16:15] dumb thing better.

[00:16:17] My juice you guys are not as caught up on.

[00:16:20] So I haven't gotten there, but I mean even attack on Titan.

[00:16:23] Oh, I finally finished that.

[00:16:25] I noticed in the server.

[00:16:27] Oh, you did?

[00:16:28] Yeah.

[00:16:28] Oh yeah, I was talking to it because I was getting yelled

[00:16:31] at for not putting it on my top 20.

[00:16:33] I didn't finish it at the time.

[00:16:34] I couldn't rank it.

[00:16:36] Um, but I don't know.

[00:16:38] I will say I don't know how it felt about the ending.

[00:16:41] Let's go with that.

[00:16:44] I don't know how it felt.

[00:16:46] I'm still like thinking about it to the staff like, oh,

[00:16:50] I don't know how I feel about that.

[00:16:51] But yeah, I finally finished that too.

[00:16:53] I don't know.

[00:16:53] I don't think we'll ever have like those.

[00:16:56] We'll never have a series like one piece again where it went

[00:16:58] on forever.

[00:17:00] Like I just don't think we will.

[00:17:02] But I mean even like Naruto felt like it went on forever

[00:17:05] and then like a bleach felt.

[00:17:06] I mean, bleach it feels like an eternity sometimes.

[00:17:09] There's Naruto.

[00:17:10] Naruto Shippuden.

[00:17:11] Well, the manga.

[00:17:14] Sorry, I was just attacked.

[00:17:17] The manga is like Shippuden didn't really happen.

[00:17:20] It went it just kind of kept going as Naruto.

[00:17:23] But now there's Baruto so it still kind of feels like it's

[00:17:26] going on Baruto Baruto stinky little bar.

[00:17:31] What was that?

[00:17:33] I heard something.

[00:17:35] The sound of a drink opening.

[00:17:38] My hands are literally.

[00:17:39] I don't know what I heard.

[00:17:41] I'm losing my mind.

[00:17:43] Now she wants to be friends.

[00:17:47] She's letting me pet her.

[00:17:48] Yeah, it's just weird though.

[00:17:49] Like did you two guys and like from what I've seen online

[00:17:52] because I haven't read it.

[00:17:53] I'm only I'm anime only on that.

[00:17:55] But the discourse I've seen online it seems like most people

[00:17:58] are like they're like concerned because like the story

[00:18:02] isn't even close to being finished.

[00:18:05] Yeah.

[00:18:06] I mean, I don't know.

[00:18:08] I don't know.

[00:18:09] It's just it's a weird vibe.

[00:18:10] I'm getting from everybody listening and I'm like all

[00:18:13] the responses to it.

[00:18:14] And I'm like, oh, that's interesting.

[00:18:16] Yeah, I'll have to start getting caught up on it again.

[00:18:20] It's been kind of on my list of ones I need to catch up on.

[00:18:24] But yeah, I don't know.

[00:18:26] Even some of like the lesser known shounen is like

[00:18:28] Kaguya Sama that's over now.

[00:18:30] Yeah.

[00:18:32] Apparently, Oshinoko is like close to being done too.

[00:18:35] Really?

[00:18:36] I think it's just kind of a trend.

[00:18:38] Like I don't think we're ever going to have like a one piece again.

[00:18:41] Well, I don't think Oshinoko was supposed to be a long story.

[00:18:44] I think it was supposed to be what it was.

[00:18:46] Honestly, I feel like the stat story is already like kind of

[00:18:49] finished and now he's just kind of dragging it out at this point.

[00:18:52] He's stretching it.

[00:18:53] Well, I think it's like you want that he's stretching

[00:18:55] it out for the artist.

[00:18:56] Yeah.

[00:18:56] The artist is more into it than he is at this point.

[00:19:00] That's a struggle.

[00:19:01] I guess that's the struggle of having someone else draw your work for you.

[00:19:05] Well, it's funny because he has a third series that's not even out over here yet.

[00:19:09] And that's already done.

[00:19:12] Really?

[00:19:13] It's bizarre.

[00:19:15] No, no, I feel like some authors just they prefer like a nice short story.

[00:19:20] And I feel like not everything needs to be super long.

[00:19:23] Like I think everything has to be.

[00:19:26] There's definitely some one piece episodes like.

[00:19:31] You need long probably it probably could have been shortened, but you know that they

[00:19:37] either need to stretch it due to like time to I don't know.

[00:19:40] I just feel like a lot of series like they don't there's not as much filler anymore either.

[00:19:44] Like, I don't know.

[00:19:47] Well, they don't really so it's interesting like filler isn't really a thing now because

[00:19:50] now they just like they wait for series to either be finished before they do

[00:19:53] animes or they.

[00:19:55] They strategically will release like seasons like to not have.

[00:20:00] Massive amounts of filler.

[00:20:02] Yeah.

[00:20:04] I think the current shonen that's still going on strong right now is spy family.

[00:20:12] Yeah, and welcome to demon school of rumic.

[00:20:16] Is that a shonen though?

[00:20:18] I believe so.

[00:20:20] Like shonen jump or well, I don't know because I mean I'm used to like this has

[00:20:26] like all the shonens and that's like a.

[00:20:30] That's I don't know.

[00:20:31] I always get confused when it's not because it's not on the shonen jump app.

[00:20:35] I know that.

[00:20:36] Is it shonen or is it guy?

[00:20:40] I don't think it's technically is a guy because he's not so either because

[00:20:45] he's not a real person.

[00:20:46] He's in the universe character.

[00:20:48] So people are saying it's a shonen, but it has is a guy elements.

[00:20:54] Okay.

[00:20:55] Well, because no, I mean he was in the human world and he got sold.

[00:20:58] He gets transported to the demon world.

[00:21:01] So kind of yeah, I guess like it's a shonen at this point.

[00:21:05] Okay.

[00:21:05] I guess it's more just like I don't associate it so just associate it

[00:21:08] with the traditional shonens because it's not a shonen jump.

[00:21:11] I'm.

[00:21:14] Chapters.

[00:21:17] That's what I gotta know now.

[00:21:20] Because we have quite a few volumes at this point.

[00:21:25] Oh wow. Oh, because like these are also Japanese covers too.

[00:21:31] Oh yeah that one's kind of behind.

[00:21:33] Oh yeah, because whoa.

[00:21:35] There's like so there's 39 volumes out in Japan.

[00:21:42] Damn it did come out late.

[00:21:44] Yeah, and that came out in September, volume 39.

[00:21:50] And you'll be collecting that one for a while.

[00:21:52] Oh yeah, 340 chapters.

[00:21:55] So.

[00:21:57] And chapters that are not that are yeah and there's currently

[00:22:00] like 360 in total right now that are not yet in like the book format.

[00:22:07] I'm just curious what the next generation of series is going to be.

[00:22:11] It's welcome to the school.

[00:22:14] No, that's already old by this point.

[00:22:17] What?

[00:22:18] You just it has 30 volumes.

[00:22:23] It's kind of old.

[00:22:24] Oh, it came out in 2017.

[00:22:26] Oh, I guess you're right.

[00:22:27] That's old. That's old. That's almost 10 years ago.

[00:22:30] Oh my God, the website is having oh my God it's just scrolling on its own.

[00:22:34] Stop. Oh my God it's just scrolling on its own.

[00:22:38] We could honestly we could talk about manga for an entire episode so let's move on to our topic for this episode.

[00:22:45] What?

[00:22:47] We have a topic?

[00:22:48] This joke isn't funny.

[00:22:50] Move on.

[00:22:51] Oh my God.

[00:22:53] This is funny because of women's green pod on the cover.

[00:22:57] Oh my God.

[00:23:00] Anyways, we're talking about video games again guys because this is the gaming collecting pod guest after all.

[00:23:08] So we're actually kind of.

[00:23:10] I thought this was the weaving and sweeping pod game.

[00:23:13] Yeah it is sometimes but.

[00:23:15] We're actually kind of doing a throwback to some of our like to like some of our series.

[00:23:20] Season two style episodes where we're going to be covering a genre of games.

[00:23:26] We haven't done that in a while like it's we've been kind of experimenting more lately.

[00:23:31] We've been vibing.

[00:23:32] But for me, I thought it'd be interesting because we haven't actually covered these and these were a very big part of Alex's and Maya gaming childhood puzzle games.

[00:23:43] Now, I think everybody has played a like, I'm always been under the impression that like everybody has their one puzzle game that it's just kind of like their puzzle game that they just love like for no reason.

[00:23:56] But like there's other puzzle games that we can all enjoy as well like.

[00:24:00] I guess to start off.

[00:24:02] For me, I've said it before like in other podcasts and episodes that my favorite puzzle game of all times clacks.

[00:24:11] And that is partially because of nostalgia it was my first video game I ever played and owned.

[00:24:16] Yeah, I got it on the Game Boy Color Christmas morning that one year.

[00:24:21] I had a choice between that or Mario deluxe and I chose clacks.

[00:24:24] Nope.

[00:24:26] And you never look back.

[00:24:28] It's since become it's one of my like I need to kill a couple minutes kind of games like clacks is such a simple puzzler it is literally a board of like it's like a conveyor belt of like these falling tiles.

[00:24:40] Yeah, and you have to catch them with this little catcher at the bottom of the screen.

[00:24:44] And basically you've got to line up pairs of three and you could either do it vertically horizontally or diagonally and you have to get like certain colors give certain points and like you get bonuses for getting color chains and stuff it's a very

[00:24:57] simple yet fun.

[00:25:01] Does look fun.

[00:25:03] It's a little slow at times you can speed it up by like launching the stuff down the conveyor belt quicker.

[00:25:08] But I've been playing that one pretty much forever like the Game Boy Color game I started with and then I have I've had pretty much every console version that's released except for I think I'm missing like the 7800 version.

[00:25:19] Just a fun little game there's a there's a quote unquote, a clone of it on the on mobile phones that I discovered recently called them.

[00:25:30] No it's called Cosmo stack.

[00:25:33] Oh, it's the same game it's like one of those like really just class.

[00:25:36] Yeah, it's a clone of it but it's like the same idea because Klax is currently owned by.

[00:25:44] We don't really know it was it was made by Atari and that version of Atari is was absorbed into midway games in the midway doesn't exist anymore.

[00:25:53] So we don't really know who owns Klax anymore but yeah it's a fun one. What would you say your first puzzle game was Alex.

[00:26:05] I don't know.

[00:26:07] That's the thing I like I don't know if I remember playing any as like a kid on I couldn't tell you.

[00:26:15] I feel like it was bejeweled or no it was much on on the computer then it was it had to be that because there was on the old windows version there was they had the games corner which we talked about.

[00:26:30] Purple place.

[00:26:31] Yes.

[00:26:32] Let me see if I can find it.

[00:26:35] And I remember I would freaking love to play my job I'd play it all the time it was my shit it still is my shit.

[00:26:46] I want to like learn how to actually play like the actual with the act like physical tiles, I feel like that would be fun.

[00:26:52] But I love my job.

[00:26:55] I would say that was my first deep dive into puzzle games because I would really play that I have to have in my on and I would just be playing my job at the same time.

[00:27:05] It's a very mind stimulating game because you're just matching the puzzles the blocks essentially.

[00:27:11] It is and I love a good max match matchy.

[00:27:16] I can't have the stroke anyways matching game.

[00:27:23] I wonder if I can still play that I wonder if they still have it.

[00:27:27] I don't know.

[00:27:28] I know all I know is there is like 1000 different versions of my job now that you can get like the there's the triple threat series Shanghai triple threat great great great 3D again.

[00:27:40] You guys talked about my job without me I'm still mad about it.

[00:27:45] To be fair we spent we spent more time talking about fucking hamburger helper episode than the actual game.

[00:27:50] Maybe I was talking to talk about remember there was hamburger helper and then there was like tuna helper.

[00:27:56] Do you remember tuna helper?

[00:27:57] I'm pretty sure we discussed this on the episode.

[00:28:01] You did discuss with me so now you gotta talk about it.

[00:28:08] You can message Aaron on the Super Fod Network about it just ask him about hamburger helper.

[00:28:14] I don't want to.

[00:28:16] No, I'm looking at tuna helper.

[00:28:18] I want the tuna no I didn't I didn't want that.

[00:28:22] I didn't want that.

[00:28:24] It's funny though because there's like 12 different mishongs that you can get on steam or like the switch store and there's of course there's sexy mishong is that there's always a sexy variant.

[00:28:34] With anime girls.

[00:28:36] Now I kind of want hamburger helper.

[00:28:39] That's gross.

[00:28:40] Is that weird?

[00:28:41] Like I want it for the nostalgia factor you want to make some this weekend.

[00:28:46] I don't know.

[00:28:47] We're making him we'll make some and we'll put a tutorial out there for everyone.

[00:28:53] You're welcome.

[00:28:54] We're going to make a hamburger helper this weekend.

[00:28:56] So you had mentioned to the you played a lot of bejeweled.

[00:29:00] Yes, I did play quite a bit of the jewel well because I had an app on my phone and I would play it like that was before I like would have like certain ones that I would play and I would play them for years.

[00:29:14] I feel like this was one of the ones I got like when I first got an iPod touch like not even iPhone yet.

[00:29:21] And this was one of the games I spent money to download and I would play it.

[00:29:29] Whenever I'm in spare time, I would always play the jewel because it was just like, you know, switch the pieces make them into a line of jewels.

[00:29:36] And so that the jewels will all match.

[00:29:38] It was like a line of three or potentially you just had to be more than two.

[00:29:43] I could have more than two so you could basically maneuver them around as best as you could just getting as much points until like you can't match anything on the screen.

[00:29:53] See, but jewel was always hope I always found it amusing because like you could go to like a Walmart and you could find like those like cheap PC games on the shelf and there'd always be like the jewel on PC but then at the same time you could just buy it on your get it on your phone for free.

[00:30:06] Yeah.

[00:30:07] Or spend money if you're stupid like me when I was younger.

[00:30:11] But that was when there wasn't as many free apps and it was more of like, like you paid for all those shitty apps.

[00:30:16] Like there was one that was like, it was like milk and it would just like the beer you would drink milk.

[00:30:23] Yeah, drink beer like all those stupid apps that beer app.

[00:30:26] I fucking love the beer app.

[00:30:27] It's so funny for those like that.

[00:30:30] And then years later.

[00:30:33] Yeah, and then years later they released it for free.

[00:30:35] It was just like a fuck you.

[00:30:39] So another puzzle game that's very iconic and I bring this one up because I this one I have over like 4000 hours on on my 3DS.

[00:30:51] Dr Mario.

[00:30:53] Oh, I thought you were going to say Tetris.

[00:30:56] No no we're saving that one for the last because that one is that's the one.

[00:31:00] Let me move it. Let me move it to the end then.

[00:31:03] So I knew you had Tetris on anyway.

[00:31:06] Well Tetris.

[00:31:07] So I always remember that Dr Mario song.

[00:31:11] Oh, the rental floss song.

[00:31:13] Yes.

[00:31:14] I haven't thought about I haven't thought about parental floss in a year.

[00:31:17] I haven't either but as soon as I said Dr Mario that's all I could think of.

[00:31:21] I am Dr Mario and I am saving my yeah.

[00:31:26] We can put that on the server for other people to experience.

[00:31:31] Dr Mario is an interesting one though because there's two variations of it now like the version I have is the miracle cure version which you can't get any more because no more 3DS store want bomb but um.

[00:31:43] I this is like my gym game like workout game like what I'm on like the exercise bike.

[00:31:48] And it is just so addicting like it's such an interesting puzzle game like you throw pills down it's like it's a drop down puzzler and you have to match up the reds the yellows in the blues and I think you need to get like.

[00:32:02] You have to get a chain of three and it will eliminate all of the pills and you want to have.

[00:32:06] You want to have the pills lined up with the viruses on the screen to kill the viruses.

[00:32:13] It's a very intense kind of game you don't want the screen to overfill or else um.

[00:32:17] Oh it's a little puzzle.

[00:32:18] See for me I feel like I don't like puzzle games like this as much because I don't like I like to relax with puzzle games I don't like to feel anxious and games like this make me feel anxious.

[00:32:32] See for me I enjoy the um.

[00:32:35] I enjoy that the brain stimulation like it's really good when you're like on um.

[00:32:40] When you're on like say an exercise bike because it keeps your brain kind of like focused on something and you don't and you don't pay attention to like the time or other things and you can just kind of focus on your workout.

[00:32:50] So um they've also added a different variation of it now called Dr Luigi where rather than just single singular pills you have double stack pills in like L shapes.

[00:33:02] And it changes the entire meta of like the game because now you have these larger like pills they have to line up to destroy stuff and it's both easier and more challenging at the same time because it's very well you can get bigger combos with the pill of the L pills it also um.

[00:33:19] Because they're bigger it also leads to the screen getting cluttered and you can easily die a lot quicker if you're not quick enough.

[00:33:29] Yeah, Dr Mario's like been a staple for years though it's been pretty much every Nintendo handheld Nintendo.

[00:33:34] A lot of Nintendo consoles is just it's a fun mind.

[00:33:39] Yeah, no time killer.

[00:33:40] I feel like that's like the best part about most puzzle games is you don't need to commit a lot of time to you can just kind of pick up play and then drop when when you need to move on something else.

[00:33:52] That's by people level.

[00:33:54] Hmm.

[00:33:56] Yeah, what's another puzzle game that you enjoy Alex?

[00:34:00] Well, I always loved 2048 and I still have it on my phone to this day.

[00:34:07] I freaking I wasn't very good at it.

[00:34:09] I won't lie.

[00:34:10] It's not like I've gotten that super large number but the whole thing is you had a you had basically a five by five.

[00:34:21] No, four by four cube square and you had a bunch of tiles in it in the tiles each time you kind of started out with like twos fours and maybe like an eight.

[00:34:35] The time you would file next to one it would add it to that tile but you can only add the same one matching pairs.

[00:34:43] Yeah, you could add and create a four and then from there you could move that and add it to a four which would create an eight.

[00:34:52] And basically your goal is you want to eventually get to well at some point 2048 but you can go even larger than that.

[00:34:59] And basically you want to create the largest number and get the highest score.

[00:35:04] But as you're doing it, you're creating more cubes on the screen and you might run out of space and then eventually you can't have anything to match anymore.

[00:35:12] So you have to physically move around while also trying to get the largest number while also trying to get multiple with the largest number because again, once you get to 2048 well you need another 2048 to then create a much bigger number.

[00:35:26] So yeah, it will be very challenging but it was a good one for like, especially for me like I would always play it like on flights because I have some I hate flying.

[00:35:38] I used to be fine when I was younger but when I started flying alone for work.

[00:35:42] I don't know why it just gave me like a lot of anxiety and I just don't like it.

[00:35:47] I don't like flying as much anymore.

[00:35:50] I just don't really like it.

[00:35:52] So for me, like having something like that where I can like get in the zone and distract myself was very helpful.

[00:35:58] And I still play it to this day.

[00:36:00] It's always on my phone but I always remember just like hours of you just playing that nonstop just on your on your tablet.

[00:36:07] I'd always be like damn.

[00:36:09] One of those for me like a good puzzle game is like a game where I can just kind of turn my brain off and like disassociate.

[00:36:18] I know it sounds kind of weird but like it really does like help me like relax like I kind of just need to almost just like decompress after a long day and just kind of do something that's not mind numbing but just like relaxing and thought

[00:36:33] and get my brain out of like work mode into just relaxation mode.

[00:36:38] So I like to afford it.

[00:36:41] It's good game.

[00:36:42] You should download it now.

[00:36:43] So you are mentioning stressful puzzle games you don't like.

[00:36:50] If we're going to talk about those real quick, we have to mention poyo poyo is my poyo poyo is by far one of the most nerve wracking stressful puzzle games I've ever played.

[00:37:00] Yeah.

[00:37:00] So poyo poyo is a weird series.

[00:37:03] It most of them didn't come out over here like it was a series that was Japan only for like years.

[00:37:09] I'm looking at many little anime girls so.

[00:37:12] So the version of poyo poyo that most Americans remember because it was completely a reskin is Dr. Robotnik's mean bean machine which is just poyo poyo reskin to the Sonic the Hedgehog like Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog TV series.

[00:37:29] Yep.

[00:37:30] Poyo poyo is fucking intense like it is a basically you have like these little like double beans that you have to drop down and you want to match like the colors and like things of four.

[00:37:42] But the key to poyo poyo is you want to like strategically place chains because like chain chaining is where every match a point you don't play poyo poyo single player it's always double like multiplayer usually playing against the computer.

[00:37:54] Yeah.

[00:37:55] And the whole gimmick is like you want to do chains because if you do chains it sends avalanches off to the other player screen and drops these.

[00:38:05] These like indestructible blocks that you can only destroy by doing chains so like basically your goal is you want to max out chain so you basically suffocate your players screen and it's like a competition style thing.

[00:38:18] See that.

[00:38:19] That gave me too much anxiety.

[00:38:21] That's too stressful.

[00:38:23] Poyo poyo is fun but it is it is a game that is hard as fuck and I'm terrible at it like I've never been able to like get.

[00:38:30] Relaxing at all.

[00:38:32] No this one's not a relaxing one this is a stress this is a stimulating one that it kind of is it gets your brain it basically gets your brain functions going on.

[00:38:42] It's one of those ones but poyo we didn't officially get a poyo poyo until like poyo pop fever on the Gamecube I want to say.

[00:38:49] Oh really?

[00:38:50] Yeah.

[00:38:52] There is a old poyo poyo on the Super Nintendo app on the Switch now though so you can play one of the older like anime ones.

[00:39:02] It's fun.

[00:39:03] There's like weird storylines that like make no sense because they're all Japanese.

[00:39:07] That's for me.

[00:39:08] There was also a crossover with Tetris that's supposedly really good.

[00:39:14] Yeah poyo poyo.

[00:39:17] If you want some stress in your life.

[00:39:19] Pon you're pon you're pon you're fishing in the sea.

[00:39:22] So I know another puzzle game that me and you played extensively this is another phone one.

[00:39:29] Most of my phones.

[00:39:31] Yeah do you remember Flow Alex?

[00:39:33] Oh yeah I think I beat Flow.

[00:39:35] I think I beat all the levels at least like at the time I had it I had done all of them and I basically had nothing left to do.

[00:39:43] I beat all the free free levels and then like I didn't buy the extra ones.

[00:39:50] I did mess around with Flow Bridges which was a later updated.

[00:39:54] Oh yeah I had the I like the bridge one too honestly Flow is like if I feel like Flow was stimulating to you because like it colors colors.

[00:40:03] Well it's a combination of colors and colors and like thinking because the flow is an interesting one.

[00:40:11] It's essentially you have a grid and there is a bunch of colored dots and the whole goal is you have to connect the two so there's like a set of like say orange green red blue yellow all the colors on one side and then there's corresponding other points on like different parts of the grid.

[00:40:26] What you have to do is you have to link all of them together but you have to cover every tile.

[00:40:32] Yes, at one point or another.

[00:40:35] The screen all filled up with color.

[00:40:37] Yeah so you have to like strategically lay them out so that every single one can connect but.

[00:40:44] I think it's hard because the grid is like pretty small and the beginning like it's only like maybe like a six by six grid and the first couple levels.

[00:40:53] And then it ends up going up to like a 20 by 20 grid at some points like it can get huge so some of them like it may be only out like seven dots on the screen and you have to or seven pairs on the screen which doesn't cover that much so you really have to be strategic about how you loop all the stuff around.

[00:41:12] Flow was one of my favorite like I needed to kill time on the fucking school bus before I got my license.

[00:41:17] Yep, I just fucking mess around with before I got my Vita I would literally just mess around with flow on my phone because it didn't kill battery like a lot of puzzle games did.

[00:41:25] Yeah.

[00:41:27] But yeah I'm a flow such a stimulating game and then they added the bridges mode which made it even more intense because then you had bridges that you could go over pathways.

[00:41:37] And that made it and that was like I would say very creative of them for doing that because like I mean at some point people were kind of like okay I played the game and they kind of needed to change things up so it definitely made it more strategic and interesting.

[00:41:53] Yeah, now flow is a good one.

[00:41:57] So another mobile game that we were kind of discussing that technically is a puzzle game Angry Birds.

[00:42:03] Yeah, I mean like tight and all well because we were kind of debating it but when you think about it you have to be strategic about.

[00:42:11] Okay they got the pigs in ones in a wooden castle ones in the ice castle ones really high up here once really low up here you only have a certain amount of shots to take you know I'd say it's a puzzle game.

[00:42:23] And then you have just strategically choose which birds you want later on because you start out with just the red Angry Bird, but eventually move on you get like the bomb one you get like the little yellow guy who's like speedy and they have like a whole bunch of other different ones like the little ones that have multiple

[00:42:41] and they like work with little bombs.

[00:42:43] So, you had to be creative and it made some terrible movies.

[00:42:48] Yeah it became a fucking franchise.

[00:42:51] No birds like that is kind of crazy how that like took off and became you know, did you know Sega owns the company that makes Angry Birds now.

[00:42:59] No I did not.

[00:43:01] They bought it from a couple years ago but I discovered that recently I was like wow Sega Sega owns a lot of shit.

[00:43:07] There's a lot of Angry Birds games to like Jesus.

[00:43:11] Oh yeah they milked the fuck out of that franchise and I don't blame them because it was an addicting game.

[00:43:16] Oh yeah it was like really fun and it's a puzzle game because you have to be creative with how you end up going through it so yeah it's a puzzle game we're calling it that.

[00:43:27] So let's change things up a bit.

[00:43:30] We've been talking about traditional puzzle games like drop down match threes like brain brain stimulators.

[00:43:37] Let's talk about a puzzle game that makes you feel like an idiot.

[00:43:41] So one of the most in depth crazy puzzle game series of all time is Professor Leiden.

[00:43:50] Yes.

[00:43:51] Professor Leiden to explain it best is it is a series of adventure games slash visual novel slash puzzle games where slash mystery games where you play the role as the titular Professor Leiden and his associate Luke and you go through like all these wacky adventures with some of the most insane story lines in

[00:44:14] the game.

[00:44:16] But the whole gimmick is like you'll be investigating a thing like uptown and like you'll talk to somebody and they'll be like hey let's solve a puzzle and I'll help you out with my your what you're trying to discover and then you get this puzzle.

[00:44:29] The puzzles and Professor Leiden make me feel like an idiot.

[00:44:33] Oh yeah they are definitely and they're those ones to work at the end you'll be like damn it like you'll be like that makes so much sense.

[00:44:40] So I guess from what I read like actually Thrac was telling me this in on 3DO at one point.

[00:44:48] I guess like the first six games they actually had a puzzle master who like came up with all the puzzles.

[00:44:55] Yeah, I believe he had passed away and for the the one starring Leiden's daughter they had a different guy do the puzzles and that's one of the reasons why the puzzles in that game weren't as well received.

[00:45:07] But apparently the new one that they're coming out with has like a team that's actually like puzzle masters making the puzzles.

[00:45:14] Oh awesome.

[00:45:16] It's kind of good for another Professor Leiden.

[00:45:19] Yeah there's one coming up for Switch that looks really interesting.

[00:45:22] I'm not sure story wise where it's going to go because so like the Leiden series there's the original trilogy on DS Curious Village Diabolical Box on Wild Future.

[00:45:32] Then there's the prequel trilogy which is like the Lost Spectre, Miracle Mask and the Azurian Legacy.

[00:45:39] Yep.

[00:45:39] Then there's the other one with his daughter that's kind of like a spin off that takes place way in the future.

[00:45:44] Yep.

[00:45:45] And then there's the Ace Attorney crossover which is its own kind of thing that happens sort of somewhere.

[00:45:54] These games though like the creativity of the puzzles to me is like because they're so varied like there is like a ton of different like options and they all make me feel so stupid.

[00:46:09] No I remember like playing it and I would also play this on plane on the plane on flights and stuff.

[00:46:17] And I was like let's see the person next to me like looking at me as I'm getting visibly angry of like why can't I figure this out?

[00:46:25] I swear.

[00:46:27] Oh it's such a good series.

[00:46:29] And it's like when a game is pretty and the art is just so nice to look at you know when something's visually pleasing you're just you're so much more likely to pick it up.

[00:46:40] We'll have to do a full Professor Leiden episode at some point probably.

[00:46:44] I would like to once the new game comes out, I think it would be fun to do we can play it and then talk about the series and then talk about the new game as well.

[00:46:53] I got to finish my replay of the series like I got I started replaying them I got through Curious Village no problem and then I started Diabolical Box.

[00:47:01] And then I got confused I got I didn't get confused I got distracted by something else so I gotta really jump back into that because you so you only have the first three right.

[00:47:10] Yeah, I just have the DS ones.

[00:47:14] Unfortunately, has read legacy is a very expensive game these days.

[00:47:18] Yeah, I feel like if anything I'll have to find it.

[00:47:23] What's it called? Whether they called the blah blah blah where you play on the computer instead of the actual game.

[00:47:30] Emulation.

[00:47:31] Yeah, an emulation at this point.

[00:47:33] Or maybe they'll be nice and do a fucking collection at some point that would be nice if they would put one on the switch like I feel like people I mean people love the Phoenix Wright one so do one for Professor Leiden.

[00:47:44] Especially because the ace attorney games are getting collections for every game now.

[00:47:48] Yeah, including the long including the long unreleased investigations to just finally coming out over here.

[00:47:59] But um, yeah Professor Leiden the puzzle game perfection wacky stories I love the art style like the cut the full anime cut scenes on the DS of all things which was amazing.

[00:48:10] The fucking I'm not going to spoil it here because this is a game I want to I want people to play but the fucking twist endings to some of these games are like holy fuck like what.

[00:48:18] What.

[00:48:19] Oh, I mean they have actual stories to them which pulls you along through the puzzles more.

[00:48:24] Yeah, that's why when you get stuck on a puzzle you get so fucking frustrated.

[00:48:27] I want to know what happens next.

[00:48:33] So were there any other mobile games before we get into the big one.

[00:48:37] Yes, Bill.

[00:48:39] The one that haunted your ads all the time.

[00:48:43] Oh fucking best.

[00:48:47] I only remember this.

[00:48:50] I remember the fucking ads like for a while like during COVID especially like fucking four times a day I'd hear that shit and I'd be like I never want to play this game.

[00:48:59] I feel like there was a brief like there was a period of time where all YouTubers all podcasters were sponsored by best fiends and all you heard was best fiends by best fiends.

[00:49:10] I remember the.

[00:49:11] See I remember the choir commercials they're like play best fiends like and I'd be like no stop.

[00:49:19] I don't remember that I just remember like every podcaster man oh yeah you playing your battle the slugs and busy.

[00:49:25] That those ads they played on the radio like real radio.

[00:49:30] And I'd hear that shit daily because they played it when I was working at a my old job like that would be on the radio and you just hear that four times a day.

[00:49:40] But I got to say, I had it and I played it and it's actually pretty fun game.

[00:49:45] I mean because it's like taking a puzzle game but also a combat factor to it.

[00:49:49] So the more that you and it's basically like kind of bejeweled but I think you need like longer rows or like it's like has to be like four in a row to get a match because I'm looking at the screen now and I'm seeing like three.

[00:50:04] But you have like different fruits, flowers, water droplets random nature is basically like kind of the jewel but it separates the board there's different aspects to it.

[00:50:14] But your whole goal in the end is that like each like four or five that you match.

[00:50:19] It's like attack points so you're basically attacking the the fiend, yeah, or the slugs you're the fiend.

[00:50:27] So I enjoy it.

[00:50:29] I mean I thought it was fun.

[00:50:31] I didn't get super far.

[00:50:32] I actually got pretty.

[00:50:33] I don't remember how far I got into it before I just like stopped playing it.

[00:50:38] Oh the worst part about it though was like you had to be online.

[00:50:42] So I never could play on the plane or like it kept asking me to like join the internet join the internet so I wouldn't play it because they want to spam you with ads.

[00:50:50] Yeah, so I wouldn't play on the planes because it was just really annoying.

[00:50:54] But yeah best fees.

[00:50:56] I think we've all heard that it's pretty fun like it's a pretty I think it's like the fun combo of like you're doing a puzzle game but you're also like, you know, kind of doing a compact game as well.

[00:51:07] So it was hard like a lot of different play levels like multiple, multiple times just to get it right because like the board kept filling because in the end like you had to end up having enough attack points if you didn't have enough like I think there was a stamina component as well.

[00:51:26] Or you could only or you had to get a certain number of like certain objects on the screen.

[00:51:33] But it was pretty like I remember it was pretty hard sometimes like I would beat the slug but I wouldn't get the number at one so I'd lose the level or something or the opposite.

[00:51:44] Speaking of before we get on to the final one.

[00:51:47] Do you remember if the Facebook puzzle games.

[00:51:51] Maybe.

[00:51:52] So I never played any of these but I just remember vividly like it was like they're always like food related.

[00:51:58] And I always remember because I just get fucking spammed with people be like, help me get more points for my puzzle game and I'm like, oh, I would.

[00:52:07] So, uh, it was actually funny.

[00:52:10] Mom would always get them from one of our family members was always candy crush.

[00:52:16] Yeah, okay, like help me like send it.

[00:52:19] That was like the worst when like, I would never do that.

[00:52:22] Like I would play puzzle games and be like, you know, share it to your Facebook page in order to get extra life points or something.

[00:52:28] And I'd be like, no, I don't want people to know.

[00:52:31] I don't want people to know the degenerate shit I played.

[00:52:34] I'm playing sexy.

[00:52:35] I'm playing sexy.

[00:52:36] Do you want to share it?

[00:52:38] I remember like this is a puzzle game.

[00:52:41] It was a farming game.

[00:52:42] I played many farming games on my phone.

[00:52:45] It was a zombie farm.

[00:52:46] It was you farm zombies and then after you've got enough zombies, you'd actually go and fight the farmer like your enemy farmer.

[00:52:56] And if you had enough zombies, you could be.

[00:52:59] I always, I just always remember episode of like the bizarre apps we had on our phone.

[00:53:05] Maybe at some point in the future.

[00:53:06] That would be very worth it.

[00:53:08] I will say though, like I just remember there was a good point in time when Facebook was like the dominant like social media platform that did not just the Boomer farm.

[00:53:17] It is nowadays where like I would log into Facebook and my, my, my notification would be like help this person play Candy Crush help this person play cookie jam.

[00:53:28] And I'd be like, can't cookie farm or whatever.

[00:53:31] I'm very like, no.

[00:53:33] Block block block block block like I just blocked so many people for that shit because I had no time for that.

[00:53:42] It's like no.

[00:53:43] Yeah, I don't even like Facebook that much so.

[00:53:47] But yeah.

[00:53:49] So we saved the big one for last.

[00:53:52] I mean there's obviously more puzzle games but these are just some of the ones that are somewhat significant to us.

[00:53:58] Yes.

[00:53:59] So we have to talk about Tetris.

[00:54:07] Yeah, everyone knows the song which is hilarious because that's only in a couple versions particularly the Game Boy.

[00:54:13] Oh, that's a classic Tetris is such an iconic game because it's actually a computerized version of a Russian game called the trauma nose I believe it's called which is like a little like board game where you have like all these

[00:54:27] different shapes and you have to like line them up to make like to fill in like a different puzzles.

[00:54:33] Because if you actually look at the official tetra manos like playing pieces there's actually a bunch of them that were cut from Tetris because it would have made the game too complicated, which is there's

[00:54:42] because there actually is a tetra manos version of Tetris that someone made on the switch which is like annoying to play because the pieces are all fucking and obnoxious.

[00:54:53] But Tetris is such an interesting game because it's literally a bunch of falling blocks and you have to basically line up lines to get Tetris is, and you just you make you get points and it just goes on basically.

[00:55:04] It's a very addicting game like it is one of those games that just stimulates all the brain in all the right ways.

[00:55:10] They'll play it consistently.

[00:55:12] I have not I bet on this switch.

[00:55:17] Well I play Tetris 99 on the switch.

[00:55:19] Yes, I have like 100 versions of Tetris because there's so many that that is one there are so many different and wasn't a movie that came out not that long ago.

[00:55:31] I don't know it was like a documentary.

[00:55:34] Well, that's what I want to get into because the story of Tetris.

[00:55:39] Excuse me.

[00:55:39] The story of Tetris is insane.

[00:55:43] Like, I'll tell everyone like if you want to learn about the history of Tetris.

[00:55:48] Go watch the gaming historians video on it like it is an hour it's like almost an hour long documentary just explaining like the like how insane getting Tetris to America was because for those who don't know Tetris was created in the Soviet Union during the Cold War by a Russian computer

[00:56:11] programmer who made it on his off time.

[00:56:14] But because he made it using like the company he worked for his equipment, it was technically owned by the state because communism and

[00:56:24] basically it, it somehow leaked out.

[00:56:27] And it was discovered by all these different game studios outside of the Soviet Union at the time.

[00:56:34] And it ended up becoming this massive war between these companies for the rights to Tetris.

[00:56:42] And like because it not only was it the rights to Tetris but it was like there was the game right the console rights the computer rights the handheld rights like because there was also all a big jumbled mess.

[00:56:51] And it's crazy because like all these companies are fighting meanwhile Nintendo ends up getting like quote unquote falsified rights that they didn't they thought were real but then it turns out they were actually like this guy that illegally was selling the rights to the thing that he didn't have the rights to.

[00:57:07] So then this the the Soviet Union discovers this and they're like, this is ours you're stealing it and Nintendo's like, well let's go talk about this and they actually said.

[00:57:17] They send the guy who actually made the version of Tetris for the the Famicom to the Soviet Union he actually meets the.

[00:57:26] He meets the actual creator and actually befriends the creator of Tetris and then he actually gets into a meeting with like the Soviets and he was like, he basically arranged a deal for them and he basically explained all this stuff they were like, you guys are like the first people that

[00:57:43] actually gave us a good deal and actually like didn't try to screw us.

[00:57:48] So they ended up and because the creative Tetris really liked the guy who Nintendo had sent over, they gave him the full console rights but also the handheld rights.

[00:57:59] And that's how Nintendo famously got Tetris on the Game Boy.

[00:58:03] To end this that story, the guy that made that game I forget the names like off the top of my head right now.

[00:58:12] But he owned a company called the bulletproof software I think it's now called Blue Planet Software.

[00:58:18] He actually ended up founding the Tetris company and he actually brought the creator of Tetris like over he lives in the America now.

[00:58:27] They actually got the rights to it so he could finally make money off his creation because he made nothing off of it for years.

[00:58:35] Well, it was it was a Russian owned thing is because communism at the time.

[00:58:40] He didn't make any money off of it basically like all the money went to the went to the state essentially but he eventually once the lapse the rights lapsed they ended up buying the rights to Tetris.

[00:58:50] And the Tetris company officially owns them now and he gets his royalties finally for the game.

[00:58:58] It's a much more complicated story than that like the Maxwell family is involved like you know a Jeslins family yeah it's there somehow tied to it it is fucking mental like the amount of people that were involved in this story like to get Tetris over here.

[00:59:17] Wow.

[00:59:18] I highly recommend the gaming historians video because it is crazy but Tetris.

[00:59:24] Or link in the podcast notes, you can easily find it on YouTube.

[00:59:31] But yeah, freaking Tetris is such a fun game and it spawned so many different versions and spin offs over the years like one of my favorites is Tetris effect which is essentially it's a version of Tetris that is like a pure visual and like audio experience where like.

[00:59:48] The gimmick is like you play it in the dark with like headphones on and like every time you turn the block it causes sound effects and as you get like Tetris is like the music in the background is all like change and adjust to it, it is just a it is a.

[01:00:02] It is a completely not only is it a brain stimulating game but it also is a visual and audio stimulating game as well I give it a play through every year just to experience it.

[01:00:13] Yeah there was a ton of different Tetris is.

[01:00:18] But yeah.

[01:00:20] Any other puzzle games before you fall asleep.

[01:00:22] No, I was.

[01:00:27] I'm tired.

[01:00:28] I revert into a toddler once eight o'clock hits.

[01:00:35] Party girl right here.

[01:00:37] I just become tired.

[01:00:38] Oh my god no I can't stay up late anymore is tired.

[01:00:43] No I mean those are the big ones the really big ones I just I mean I mean we could bring up Katie crush but I really play Katie crush that much I just got annoying Facebook ads on it.

[01:00:54] But I mean there's so many out there on your phone now and there's so many duplicates and clones of ones as well.

[01:01:02] Weird knockoff one so I mean.

[01:01:04] But people love their puzzle games you know they're just some people like them for the competitive anxiety driven aspects and some people like to relax I am a later I prefer to relax when I play my puzzle games but you know you do you.

[01:01:21] Move move.

[01:01:23] Yeah so.

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