G&C Podcast - Episode 187: Discussing The Pokemon Starters!

On this episode of the Gaming And Collecting Podcast Bill and Alex return to the Pokemon universe this time discussing all the various starters from the mainline titles!

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[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey everybody, on this episode of Gaming and Collecting, we're returning to the Pokemon universe.

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: This time we're going to be discussing all the starters from the mainline games.

[00:00:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Talking about the ones we like, the ones we disliked, and kind of just ranking them in a way sort of.

[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a very front-heavy list, that's all I'll tell you.

[00:00:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But until then guys, enjoy the episode.

[00:00:23] The Pokemon Starters

[00:00:24] [SPEAKER_00]: How you been?

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I hear a crash and a smash, and I see broken glass.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I see poo.

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_03]: So she freaking broke something.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_03]: She broke like this little- I had this little mug candle.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_03]: It had a cat on it, it was cute, and our mom got it for me.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's broken and dead.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_03]: She killed my fucking mug.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_04]: I can't have nice things.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Nope, you have a cat.

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_04]: No, I have a demon.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_00]: You wanted it.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't- I didn't know what I signed up for!

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I think you did.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't in the fine print.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You just couldn't get lucky on the roulette this time.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Nope, I got a demon.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_03]: A demon that eats fucking everything.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And destroys everything.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_03]: How are you feeling, Bill?

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Tell the audience what happened last weekend.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_00]: You mean Monday.

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean on Monday.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what fucking day this is!

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_04]: What happened on Monday?

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I had to get my wisdom teeth out and that was swell.

[00:02:07] [SPEAKER_01]: He's not as wise anymore?

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You feel less wise?

[00:02:13] [SPEAKER_00]: This joke isn't funny.

[00:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And he was moving on.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is!

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I had to get those taken out on Monday so I legit didn't do anything all day Monday.

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_00]: We got them out.

[00:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I drove Bill to and from the dentist so I got to hear loopy Bill talk which was pretty funny.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, you were kind of disappointed I wasn't as loopy as you wanted.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but it was still pretty funny.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Especially when we passed Six Flags, that was my favorite part.

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you went, I want to go to Six Flags!

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you're like, I want to go to the deck tower!

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And he would stop saying that over and over.

[00:02:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, this is so creepy.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, the deck tower!

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_03]: The deck tower!

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about?

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_00]: I must have been watching the fucking Amusement Dark subreddit again or something.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't fucking know.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_03]: One of the best parts, at first you're like, I want to go to Six Flags!

[00:03:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you just start going, deck tower, deck tower!

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, Jesus!

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And then another fun part of the car ride home was, it was like 4th of July and I think another America themed holiday is coming up.

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So there's a bunch of American flags and then you just go, America, forget!

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But you keep going and every time we pass the flag you keep going, America!

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately Alex did not get any of this captured.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_05]: Well I'm stressing!

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I vaguely remember the America fuck yeah, I don't remember the deck tower thing so that's great.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_03]: The deck tower was wonderful.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_03]: No it wasn't wonderful but it's pretty funny.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you just were like, house, house, house, car, just go through it every time we pass something.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I must have been loopy because I don't remember any of this.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was pretty funny.

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I have to say, we definitely live in a post-COVID world sometimes because like, holy fuck, I get in there, the operation is general anesthetic,

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm out in a second, the next thing I know it's over.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_00]: They just straight out pull you out of the chair like, okay bye!

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: They just out the door, they didn't tell me anything.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Well you were also very loopy so they didn't tell you much.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But I wasn't there for that long either.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Your connection is taking a massive...

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_04]: Coming and grabbing them and then they're like bye!

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_00]: You literally, your connection just took a massive dump right there and I got nothing.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it was the same on your side so I think it might have been a mutual thing because it also didn't.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it records on my end so...

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_03]: What was the last thing you heard?

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You literally were saying how you basically, they didn't tell you anything either.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_03]: No they literally told me nothing, they gave me a QR code that was not helpful.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Probably the worst place ever.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: They tried to charge you twice for the procedure which I also thought was pretty nice.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah their office was extremely disorganized.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It was very incompetent, the office staff was very...

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The actual doctors, like the surgeons and everything, they were fine.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like they easy enough got it done.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah the front office there, oh boy.

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Well and I remember too, I had to go swing the car around.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So I sat you in a chair and I was like don't fucking move!

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I proceeded to almost eat shit and fall down the stairs.

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I was wearing sandals that didn't fit great, my feet great.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So I almost fell but then I got the car around and I was like alright get in.

[00:06:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And then...

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, you did something funny walking into the car too.

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I almost stumbled because...

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah it was pretty funny.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah because we were on an upper floor and you drove around so we didn't have to go down the stairs.

[00:06:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah so you didn't have to go down the stairs.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I still had to go down them but...

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah I kind of stumbled into the car.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah you did.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_03]: This is pretty great and I laughed at you.

[00:06:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I'm a little bit like, stop laughing at me!

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember that.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Still my favorite moments were, I want to go to Six Flags!

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Death Tower.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_03]: In America!

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah because then after that we got back to my house and she watched me for a couple hours just to make sure I didn't die.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I went and got your six prescriptions because they for some reason prescribed like 50 different drugs.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but most of them haven't done anything.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't take the oxy because fuck that.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah that was fun.

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: We watched Chicago Pilgrim Takes Off though.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That was an entertaining watch.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that was good.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_03]: That was a good watch.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like who I lied to the other day.

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_03]: When I said the Sailor Moon movie was out, it wasn't out.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_03]: They just have it on the Netflix screen.

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It comes out soon though.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: It's August 22nd.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I was going to say like I thought that was early but.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was too.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I just I've never seen Netflix do that before but also I haven't watched Netflix in a while because it wasn't.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So I made Netflix account.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It was not letting me use your Netflix account here.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_03]: So I made one and then I go to log into Netflix and it logs me in and I can use your account.

[00:08:07] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I have no idea.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So now I'm like well I'll keep the account for at least a month to see in case it reverts back.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But right now I'm using your account.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay that's fine.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_00]: You still have a profile so.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah that's where Alex the Parasite originated from.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Well no I think it was first on the Discord server.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: No no it was on the Netflix account and then I copied it to the Discord server because it all started from I was using your Netflix account.

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: And then you're like you're fucking parasite.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So I called myself Alex the Parasite and then it's taken off from there because I'm a parasite apparently.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah on all my.

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot to show you I'm going to try.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_03]: The viewers can't see this but I'm going to show Bill my knee.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I ran it into a wall.

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you see how purple it is.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: How the fuck did you do that.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I so I was doing.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever done inchworms.

[00:09:11] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay it's where you go where you touch your toes and then you walk yourself into a plank.

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay but then I was doing them where and then you're supposed to like walk across the room doing them.

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_03]: But I was doing them like as a stretch so I was doing that into the plank and then going into a lunge.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was next to my stairs because working out in my living room.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I was next to my stairs.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I did my left foot and I was fine.

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I brought my knee forward into a lunge to do a stretch and then I was too close to the stairs.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I brought my knee forward and I just slinged it into one of the corners of the rail of like you know like how our stairs because we have the same stairs like the that like the poles they kind of stick out like they're on the outside of it.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So I nailed my knee into one of the corners.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_05]: Nice.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: It's progressively much better like when I did it on I did it on Tuesday and when I woke up on Wednesday my knee was like super bloated.

[00:10:16] [SPEAKER_00]: That's great so you couldn't walk and I couldn't eat.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's fun.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Well no I still went to dance.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't that bad.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I've done worse like the worst part was like I not only like slamed it really hard but then I also like you could see down the middle.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You couldn't see on the camera.

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: You could see down the middle of it there's like the stripe like from all the skin that it pulled off too.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah so my knee is purple and yellow but it feels a lot better.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean it's still kind of achy but not bad.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So I worked out Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday and today's going to be my rest day because I thought I should probably give it a day off.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah but my knee is purple.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_03]: It looks worse than it feels like it's not bloated.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Generally do.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But didn't know.

[00:11:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Purdy.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Not really.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been able to eat all week which is fun.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been eating.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Soup.

[00:11:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So I had soup and soup for the most of the week.

[00:11:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yesterday I had some lo mein.

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Lo mein.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_01]: OK.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And then today I was brave enough and I had a bagel.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And no.

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_01]: OK.

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_00]: No straws.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Alex they didn't tell me shit.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So how am I.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_03]: No straws.

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_03]: No straws.

[00:11:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not bleeding anymore like I'm not spitting up blood when I brush my teeth so that's a good sign.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Well as long as you're also being very careful in that you're not like brushing that area right.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_00]: No I'm brushing around and getting the teeth.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_03]: OK good.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And doing the rinse.

[00:11:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but I ate a bagel so I can eat somewhat solid food now.

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Keep it.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't go into full solids yet.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I want goddamn pizza.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I really want pizza.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I could blend some for you.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: I can probably do it.

[00:12:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's getting better.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Well we can get pizza.

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say get like a.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: We'll get pizza this weekend OK.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_03]: But you have to be.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't get like the chicken.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_03]: It has to be like cheese or something with soft toppings.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how I feel because I'm getting it's honestly like I think it's almost better.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It's still very soon though so don't overdo it.

[00:12:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Anyways we had our gross talk of my disgusting me and your gross bloody teeth.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So might as well get into our topic.

[00:12:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait.

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Bill what are you drinking?

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Having a gin and tonic because it's been a long week.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_03]: You're drinking alcohol.

[00:13:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Who are you?

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Myself.

[00:13:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Aren't you going to ask me what I'm drinking?

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: What are you drinking Alex?

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not my boy Kirky but he is my boy Poland.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Poland fucking Springs.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_03]: All right all right where is it?

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_03]: There's an ad on the bottom of the screen and it had like a little plane that flew up and I thought it was a bug so it scared me because it was bug colored and shaped.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_00]: That's all you get.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_04]: No facts.

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_03]: All it says is scan for more.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Helping to conserve Springs make it better.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: 100 percent natural water.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Poland Springs established in 1845.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a long time.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_03]: 16.9 fluid ounces 500 milliliters.

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_03]: The barcode reads 7572000081 and you can recycle it for five cents in Maine and New York.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Unique New York.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: In one eight Bill it says the cap poses a choking hazard particularly for small children and people named William Barber.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what it says in the fine print.

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: That's nice.

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_03]: What?

[00:14:56] Wait what?

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Bill because we're not posting this video because I look like a grub.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Bill just made a banner pop up at the bottom of the screen that says like something about my facts.

[00:15:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember but I knew it was insulting.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_03]: No one cares about my facts.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: How fucking dare you.

[00:15:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to put a poll on the server and have everyone who loves my fucking facts put some vote yes.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_03]: You take that down right fucking now.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm posting it to the server as we speak.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Well you do that.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to start.

[00:15:35] [SPEAKER_00]: You have an entire water bottle propaganda channel.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_03]: All right I'll post I forgot about that.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Of course you did.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a bitty okay.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways so moving on we do have a fact for the god fucking damn it Alex.

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_00]: We do have a topic.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You'll understand.

[00:16:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Empty and replace the cap recycle.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways we'll let her go on there for a minute.

[00:16:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You want me right now.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_03]: You little fucking.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So we have a fact with your fact Bill.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Bill what did you what would you prefer.

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you prefer the water bottle or do you prefer the JAD jokes.

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: The JAD jokes.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm having a stroke okay.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't I don't.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Bill I have a present for you.

[00:16:35] [SPEAKER_03]: You want a volume of manga.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm giving it to you.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have a choice.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just one.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just the first one.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_03]: You can just hold on to it until you eventually watch the show and also love it as much as I do.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to say what it is though for the viewers because we might use it for an anime swap at some point so.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways so we do have a topic for this episode.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_00]: We're doing Pokemon again.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: This one I think might be a bit more interesting though than some of the previous ones we've done.

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to say.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Our mother likes them.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Click away mom hates Pokemon.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So in the past we've so far covered every Pokemon in the series.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: We've talked about the player characters the protagonists and we've talked about the rivals.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But I was thinking about this and let's be real here like.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_00]: The player characters that's cool and all but that really doesn't matter in terms of the whole long run of the game.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing that really matters and kind of like.

[00:17:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Sick completely will set your Pokemon adventure from the get go is your starter.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes and the starters are honestly probably the most important Pokemon in the games.

[00:17:54] [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it'd be kind of cool if we discussed the starters and we kind of went over what we thought like which ones were our favorites and.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: In reality like how much they actually affect how much we like a certain game in the series.

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes because I'll tell you what the starters are like the first impression of the Pokemon game and if the starters suck that literally will ruin an entire game for us.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah because then you'll just be like fighting to be like oh I just want to find someone to replace my starter.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah so.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do them pretty much in order there is one little kind of exception where we have to go a little out of the box just because of a specific game.

[00:18:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But let's start with Gen 1.

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Generation one literally has quite possibly the most the most iconic starters of all time.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And let's just say it then they're the best.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_03]: There are some really good ones but like no one can beat Bulbasaur Charmander Squirtle.

[00:19:00] [SPEAKER_03]: They are classic they are perfect I mean Bulbasaur has his own propaganda you know he's just the he's the best out of them.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_03]: You know out of the original he's the best starter of all time.

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just let's just be honest don't lie people don't deny it you love Bulbasaur you just don't want to admit it.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_00]: See the thing is though like in like these games like especially in the later ones there might be one starter that you kind of gravitate towards.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Gen 1 though all three of them I could honestly do a playthrough with.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah like and I mean there's been games where you try and get like all the original starters because they're just so awesome.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean Bulbasaur is the best but Charmander and Squirtle are really cool too.

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I also really that's the thing you know what I really love about the evolutions from Gen 1 they make sense.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah like Bulbasaur to Ivysaur to Venusaur that just that works like it's progressive like it's a gradual shift like Charmander Charmeleon is a little strange compared to like a little like different in between.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Bulbasaur definitely has the cleanest transition.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_03]: He's especially cool because like he has this little flower and it just blooms on the back and he becomes a big boy.

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean Charmander to Charizard is fun Squirtle to Blastoise is also fun.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Ironically with Charmander and Squirtle their middle forms are kind of like the weird like awkward teenager phase.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but I still like all three of them.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I like the way they're chilling.

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_03]: No yeah all three of them have very solid designs throughout all their other evolutions like you can't go wrong with a single one of them.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's really strong too like they're all really great starters.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Stat wise like the starters are always inherently just really strong.

[00:20:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but even like they're so well balanced like I mean the original games like like the original red and blue.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah they were the balance was pretty shit like I mean like Bulbasaur literally like all you need is razor leaf because it criticals every fucking time.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And if you pick Charmander you're going to be in for a very hard hard time at the start of the game.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah because your first gym is a water gym.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: No no it's a rock gym.

[00:21:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh it's a rock gym oh sorry I was mixing.

[00:21:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Then a water gym.

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Then a water gym that's it yeah.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like boom boom and then if you pick grass you just have a great time.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Even if you pick Squirtle you have a pretty easy time.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said though moving on there was we have to talk about yellow for a bit.

[00:21:49] Yellow.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: So Pokemon yellow to me the original yellow you would was designed to basically replicate the anime at the time.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: So instead of getting one of the three starters you get a Pikachu.

[00:22:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I enjoy the fact mostly because you actually get all three starters later on in the game.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh that's pretty sick.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of similar to how Let's Go did it but also the thing I don't like though is you can't evolve the Pikachu and Pikachu inherently as by itself kind of sucks.

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Like.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't evolve it to Raichu and like Timmy because there's no electric stones in yellow I think.

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe you just can't evolve it either way.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You can't evolve the Pikachu in yellow version.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Was Raichu a form at that point?

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah right right.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Raichu is in the first game.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah the electric gym uses one.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh whoopsie.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So that one was always interesting to me because like you would you would start with a Pikachu and then your rival would start with them because the way it usually works is the whichever Pokemon you pick your rival will always pick the starter that's stronger.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you pick the grass they'll pick the water if you pick the water they'll pick the.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you pick the grass they'll pick the fire if you pick the water.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be more of a challenge for you.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you fight your rival multiple times.

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_00]: In yellow though you get a Pikachu and they get an Eevee.

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Which.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Lame.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it much of an advantage and what annoys me is that they can evolve their god damn Eevee but you can't?

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah well I mean that's kind of the point of an Eevee like no one just keeps it at normal Eevee unless they're weird.

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But then if you play Let's Go the Eevee version they actually let you start with an Eevee and you can't evolve it.

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like this is stupid.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh that's dumb.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Well to be fair it has the stupid broken as fuck like special moves so.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Because Let's Go as much as I like Let's Go like it is a broken fucking mess of a game.

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very easy.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a hard game to beat.

[00:24:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah because they give you like the most broken moves.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the hardest part about that game is catching Pokemon.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Because you have to use the Pokemon Let's Go app.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:24:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah so yellow was an interesting diversion.

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the only game that you don't start with a traditional starter.

[00:24:31] [SPEAKER_03]: The rest follow the same formula of grass fire water.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:24:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Now moving on to Johto or Generation 2.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_00]: We have Chikorita, Cyndaquil and Totodile.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: This is another very solid set of starters.

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It is but this is also the one game where I don't pick the grass type.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Same.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Actually one of the few.

[00:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I always pick Cyndaquil on this round.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_03]: For Panto I always pick Bulbasaur.

[00:25:04] [SPEAKER_03]: But for Johto I always pick Cyndaquil.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_00]: So I will say about Johto this was kind of the start of there would be certain generations where one Pokemon in particular would be the one that's just generally circled out.

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And no one picks this one.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it's the one where like everyone kind of gravitates towards one in particular.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh OK.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Like because most people pick Cyndaquil.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is fair because Cyndaquil is out of the three my favorite design.

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's super unique.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a little ant eater that shoots fire.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like Totodile was too similar to Squirtle and then Chikorita was just I don't know too cutesy.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_00]: So once again I really enjoy the evolution like chains on these gods too because they can make sense.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean Typhlosion is the best out of the three but Chikorita going to Meganium I really like and then Totodile to Feraligatr is really solid.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not a huge fan of the water types generally.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: There's like maybe like two games that I'll pick a water type.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It's yeah.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's mostly because I don't like the other two designs.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah I've never picked.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I've never not picked Cyndaquil for either of these games.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's hard to say but I mean I like Totodile's designs and evolutions.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know Chikorita just never I mean I do like their final design.

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_03]: They're pretty little flowers.

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Meganium.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I honestly wish I could skip.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I wish I could skip Chikorita and Bayleaf and just go straight to Meganium sometimes.

[00:26:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I know I wish you could just catch.

[00:26:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like too Meganium has like has dragon vibes to it.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Can it learn dragon moves?

[00:27:01] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't really.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't I so rarely will use one so I don't really know.

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Also interesting fact too is Bulbasaur was also kind of special because Bulbasaur was a grass poison type.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a special boy.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Girl.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't always get like hybrid like they'd usually evolve into hybrids as they as they evolved up later on but like Bulbasaur is the first one that kind of you get a double.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah and the only other one isn't until like many other generations later so true.

[00:27:36] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said though.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And also grass because grass is OP.

[00:27:39] [SPEAKER_00]: True.

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Well not not in gen 2 not in gen 2 because.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_03]: No not in gen 2 I picked Cyndaquil so.

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_00]: In gen 2 if you pick Chikorita you're going to be in for a fucking hard time because the first two gyms actually I think the first like couple gyms are brutal on so it's flying and then bug.

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Two of the grasses least favorite types.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to go for the hard mode pick Chikorita.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But I will say.

[00:28:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't pick Chikorita because when I was younger I used to always go for the cute ones but I don't know something about Cyndaquil.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: To be fair though their Cyndaquil is pretty cute too.

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_03]: He is pretty cute but like in a different like Chikorita is more cutesy cutesy.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't really encountered an ugly start again.

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_03]: No not yet.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry there will be ugly starting.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Not yet.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah so gen 2 also solid.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Alright let's get to them now.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Generation 3.

[00:28:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly these ones are very solid too.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I would rank gen 1 is number one and then gen 3 is number two in terms of really good starters.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a solid all three of them are great.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_00]: True.

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I know you're a Trico lover.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I am don't phrase it that way.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I am an extremely biased to generation 3 like Sceptile is my favorite Pokemon ever.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So like if I'm playing gen 3 I'm picking Trico.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said Torchic and Mudkip are really good as well.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I've used all three of them.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Actually I think my first one go around I actually did Torchic.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And no I think you traded me a Torchic for a different game at one point because I remember you traded me him at Blaziken.

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And he didn't listen to me because I wasn't leveled high enough for his level firm to listen to me.

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_00]: You were very naive then.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I was.

[00:29:40] [SPEAKER_03]: This is before I was actually strategic and stuff.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_00]: But this is before you became the bigger Pokemon fan than me.

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah though gen 3 starters.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Shepskis like super solid great designs.

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: They're they're adorable.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They have great evolution.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: And they all grow up to be like really badass too.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they go from like really cute to like very like grrrr we're gonna kill you.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I like how different they look and feel too compared to like the gen 2 and 1 starters.

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I feel looking at Chikorita like in terms of like the eyes like they were still kind of holding on to like the previous designs were as these ones like well minus Cyndaquil.

[00:30:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Cyndaquil is the most like different.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like this one they went for what to make them all completely different.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: To be fair though too.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: In context to you remember Johto is technically the same continent as Kento.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So it kind of makes sense that they're similar.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Hoenn's an entire new continent like in a completely new area.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I really like that they kind of reflect that and they feel different.

[00:30:59] [SPEAKER_00]: But that being said love gen love the Hoenn starters love gen 3.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on we get to Sinnoh.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And Sinnoh.

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_00]: At first I'm not gonna lie.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't a huge fan of these ones.

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_00]: They've grown on me significantly though.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

[00:31:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I would say at least I'm not the biggest fan of Chimchar.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just not my favorite design but Turtwig and Piplup I love them both.

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_03]: So Turtwig is so the context of Turtwig's evolved form Torterra is so cool.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Like honestly the Detective Pikachu movie made me really love Torterra because I'm just imagining him as this giant beast.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: He's very Miyazaki film to me which I think really makes me love him a lot more.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh we should bring up that in the previous gen Torchic was the start of a trend that a lot of fire type fans aren't the biggest fans of.

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_00]: For me I never picked the fire type except for gen 2 so it never bothered me.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: But Torchic's final form Blaziken is infamously a fire fighting type.

[00:32:14] [SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And this would become like the meta for like a couple years.

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_03]: All fighters must be fighters.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Well because Chimchar is in a lot of ways.

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I love Chimchar's two evolutions like his final form like Infernape I believe.

[00:32:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Also fire fighting but I like the design.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I like the knee pads.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the fact too that in this gen all the starters become multi types as they evolve.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Piplup becomes Empolion.

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I love I don't like I don't like Piplup's middle form.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I just think he looks like a derpy penguin but Empolion is really cool.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like especially Triton beak and like the steel aspects is really cool.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And Polion is really cool.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I remember I tried to catch one in Legends of Arceus.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Arceus and it kept murdering me.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Stop murdering me Empolion.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah we should probably talk about Arceus later.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that though.

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Turtwig is a ground grass type.

[00:33:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Turtwig I always pick just because I love his design.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Like he is the cutest of the three in my opinion.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_03]: He is very cute and like I mean his middle design.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's not the middle.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_00]: The middle designs are supposed to be kind of awkward though.

[00:33:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I know but then like that though his final though is like the continent Pokemon is just so cool.

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's just he just reminded me like I could see him in a Miyazaki movie transporting the main characters across the world.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I just love them.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_03]: He's so cool.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So Gen 4 definitely grew on me.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably my least favorite of all the ones we've looked at so far.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Just as a complete package.

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But anyway.

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Turtwig is one of my favorite grasses so.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And Pipplup one of my favorite waters.

[00:34:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on now though we get to the Inover region.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Gen 5.

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I will say this is my last gen where I love all three.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_02]: Like yes.

[00:34:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Because after this we get some we go to some weird places.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_00]: But that being said let's start with Snivy the grass type.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_00]: I love Snivy.

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I love the smug fucking face.

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Even though I love that I love that Snivy rather than like evolves further he de-evolves and he loses limbs.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes from bipedal to snake.

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Well he goes from he has actual arms and feet legs.

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he goes from he has okay he he has legs and then he has these fake hands that are leaves.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he just goes snake.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: But he is a cool fucking snake and he has leaf blade which is fucking great.

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_00]: He's basically a septile clone and I love it.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Love him for that.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I love him.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a great little snake man.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I choose him every single time.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Every single.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I've done all three because I really like to pig as well.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the pig is fun.

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I did not like to pig younger but I love his evolved form.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I love Mbore.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just so cool.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Well because he reminds me like honestly I get the firefighting for him because he kind of reminds me of like a sumo or something.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_03]: You know it's just sick.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_03]: He's very sick.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: He was fun.

[00:35:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Also firefighting.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_03]: But his design looks so derpy.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but it's cute though.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I like the designs and then finally Oshawa.

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Oshawa is adorable.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's an otter.

[00:36:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah no Oshawa is really cool and again this is a generation where all the final designs are just fucking badass.

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they're just all cool.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Also I love this gen because the fucking fandom because of Oshawa's name it became a Metal Gear Solid reference.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_00]: So we got Revolver Oshawa to Pig Boss and Solid Snipe because he turns into a snake.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_00]: But I just remember when the game first came out and everyone saw Oshawa's name it was like Revolver Oshawa.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So funny.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I know it's funny though is like Oshawa almost seems like in its middle form that it could also be a fighting.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a water fighting.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_03]: But then it evolves into again it de-evolves and it goes from bipedal to four pedals.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know quad pedal.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he loses his legs and he gets arm legs.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Okay so moving on now we get to the Kalos region Gen 6 the first 3D game and Gen 6 we've mentioned in the past.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_03]: There's only one starter that they hold onto from this series.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_03]: The other ones they just put in the corner and say these didn't happen.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Well no no two of them two of them I think are acceptable.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Two of them? Okay.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean so first off like we've mentioned in the past Gen 6 everything Gen 6 did was kind of weird.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But you got to remember is that it came off from probably one of the best Pokemon games out there.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like black and white is probably one of the best ones.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That's true and to be fair Gen 6 isn't bad.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just weird because it's.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And following up with it is yeah.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Well it's that and it's also trying a lot of really interesting.

[00:38:11] [SPEAKER_00]: It was trying a lot of new stuff.

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot of it worked but Gen 6 I give a pass.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said the starters.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Should we just talk about Chespin now?

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah let's just get it over with.

[00:38:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Chespin sucks.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_03]: The first Gen where.

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: The first Gen where I was outwardly just I dislike the grass type which I hated because I fucking grass is my favorite.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_00]: So like I hate his first form.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_00]: His first form is the sad part is his second form.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The sad part is though his first form is like the best of the three in terms of like his evolutions because like he his second form it just looks like he got stung by bees.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And then his third form he just turns into fucking Buzz Lightyear.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck?

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah but also like how does it go from that to that?

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it doesn't make any sense.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_00]: This was the game.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But hey it's grass fighting.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Whoa.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_00]: This was the game where the disconnect and evolutions really kind of began because then we get to Fennekin who.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Decent design fire type.

[00:39:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely trying something different with the fire types for once.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Which I appreciate because let's face it everyone was tired of firefighting by this point.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And I will give them credit it's final form Delphox is a fire psychic which is pretty unique.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I will say I didn't really remember what the final of this one looked like.

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not bad.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_03]: It's actually pretty nice.

[00:39:59] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing is though.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I like the fire psychic.

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Fennekin is a great Pokemon like I enjoyed that one.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: But let's be real if you're playing Gen 6 you're probably picking Froakie.

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking frog.

[00:40:13] [SPEAKER_02]: And he becomes a ninja.

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I really liked frogs back in the day so like when I saw finally a frog starter I was like fuck yeah.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Frog.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes yes yes.

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said though the shift between.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Green Ninja's design.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh you mean tongue scarf?

[00:40:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes I love a good tongue scarf.

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I love Green Ninja water dark type is cool.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I will admit though the shift between frog.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Frog Delator or whatever the fuck the middle form is and Green Ninja is such a fucking drastic shift.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I feel like all of them work though.

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Well actually you know what I will say.

[00:41:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Fennekin's is pretty standard.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Fennekin has the most flow but Chespin and Froakie no flow.

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_00]: No but Froakie at least.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_03]: At least though you can connect that it evolved from little frog to bigger frog.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Whereas Chespin it just was like what the fuck is it.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Like if you looked at his final evolution next to his first you would not think that came from the same Pokemon.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I mean it's interesting to me because this is the first gen where I was like water type all the way.

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Which is rare for me because I never picked a water type.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_03]: No me too I usually pick grass.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and the grass type sucked.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he's so ugly.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll at least give them credit too though like at least they're all unique designs.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we haven't reused anything yet.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Yet yeah because so far what else we've gone through like every starter has been at least somewhat unique like a creature.

[00:42:00] Yeah.

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said though let's talk about the Aloha region.

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Our Sun and Moon.

[00:42:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Gen 7.

[00:42:11] [SPEAKER_00]: The game I got five minutes into and put it down and never looked back.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I know people hate on these starters but I'm sorry Rowlet is fucking adorable.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_05]: It's just Blathers.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes everything about it is great.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I name him Blathers every time.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But like look he's the first one.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_03]: He's so cute.

[00:42:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Look at his little leaf bow tie.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He just want to go.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he evolves into emo Blathers with this emo base and I love him for that.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he evolves into I can't pronounce it but he's really freaking cool and still kind of emo.

[00:42:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's like an emo superhero man.

[00:42:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I just freaking love him.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_03]: And like in the in the legend of Arceus he's like all ball colored which is pretty fun.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He is great.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_03]: He deserves better.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_03]: He deserved a better game.

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said I really liked Lydon like Firecat.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_03]: He is pretty cute.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_03]: He is pretty cute but Blathers all the way.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah the Firecat was really cute.

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Also the final evolution Incineroar.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Just fucking giant Firecat.

[00:43:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Fire Dark too which was cool.

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry but I prefer Emboar better.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But you know Incineroar is okay.

[00:43:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Popplio I didn't care at all.

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Who cares?

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a fucking seal.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a seal with a goofy looking Mermaid seal.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I hate its final form.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_05]: What the fuck.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's so many questions I have there.

[00:43:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I just like.

[00:43:58] [SPEAKER_00]: See I feel like they for Popplio's final form like they started drawing it and they're like look what I drew.

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_00]: It's like god damn it Jerry.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We had a budget for this and you drew this thing.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Fuck now we have to use it.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It seems like someone who probably really made this really enjoys the furry content.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_03]: That's all I'm going to say.

[00:44:27] [SPEAKER_03]: It just seems like they drew it to be slightly sexual and I don't like that about it.

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I don't like that about the design.

[00:44:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's a Pokemon.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't need to look like that.

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_03]: No thank you.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:44:42] Yeah.

[00:44:43] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said like I'm probably never going to finish Sun and Moon so I picked Litten but that doesn't mean anything in the long run.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You should have picked Rowlet.

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Rowlet is the cutest little boy or girl.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_03]: He's just the cutest little birdie.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I love him.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And he's grass flying.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_03]: He's the first one since Bowlby to start with multiple types.

[00:45:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I love him.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Give him the respect he deserves.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways so moving on to Gen 8.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_03]: How fucking dare you.

[00:45:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Give him respect.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Respect flathers or he'll give you shitty coffee.

[00:45:20] [SPEAKER_00]: He's not the worst grass starter.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_03]: That's all I need to hear.

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Moving on though we get to the Galar region.

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Sword and Shield Gen 8.

[00:45:33] [SPEAKER_00]: I've come around a lot on this.

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Who do you pick for this one?

[00:45:38] Grookey.

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_02]: Good.

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Grookey.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I love him.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not going to lie.

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I picked Grookey just because the other two just look completely uninteresting to me.

[00:45:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That's okay.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly I like all three of Grookey's evolutions even his little mini like even his middle wacky form.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I just think he kind of looks stupid but I kind of love it.

[00:46:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he doesn't look I don't know what he's supposed to be but I love him for that.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I freaking love his final form.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Royal Boom's pretty good.

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_03]: He's drums.

[00:46:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Like my favorite move like he has all the grass like he has one of those drums and it's really grass drums and it brings me so much joy.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_00]: He's also pure grass which I really like.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And his like Gigantamax move is literally a drum set.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Evolves from the grass.

[00:46:39] [SPEAKER_03]: He gets a wooden drum set.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_00]: I will say though like he is interestingly the first reused creature.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_02]: He is?

[00:46:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's another monkey.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_02]: Who else was a monkey?

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Chimchar.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah but he's not like a fire monkey.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_03]: He is a great monkey.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Well no I'm just saying like it's like a...

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_03]: They're such little relatives.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They did really well at not reusing creatures for the starters so I find it amusing like other than like birds but like birds kind of get a pass because there's different ones.

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_00]: This is like the first one they just did another monkey.

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but that's fine.

[00:47:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But they're very different monkeys okay?

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Like Rillaboom is much more beefy and jacked than Chimchar.

[00:47:32] [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a different monkey.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_03]: There's different types of monkeys Bill just like birds.

[00:47:39] [SPEAKER_03]: They're clearly too different.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's more of like a like a...

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_03]: What's the ones?

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_03]: The big ones.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Gorilla.

[00:47:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's more gorilla.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Where like Chimchar is more like chimpanzee.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying?

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're different monkeys.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_03]: So I just proved your bird point invalid.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_03]: The monkey point.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_03]: The monkey's fist.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_03]: The monkey!

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you remember that from SpongeBob?

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_00]: So score, score bunny.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey you can't complain this is a new animal.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_03]: A monkey.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah but it evolves into a Naruto.

[00:48:29] Like...

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what it has.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah he has that headpiece.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But maybe it evolves into a spoker player.

[00:48:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I know.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Well yeah because that game has a soccer theme for some reason.

[00:48:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Well no, no.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_03]: All the animals were like some sort of...

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_03]: They were all themed after Europe.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Like so like football is a big thing.

[00:48:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the drumming had something to do with it.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Because even the last one I think has...

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Next one.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah but they were going for the Europe.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You know the Europe.

[00:49:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I mean so the score bunnies line is pretty okay.

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's not great.

[00:49:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll never choose it.

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why he was Naruto.

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I don't know either.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said though, Sobble...

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Sobble just looks concerned.

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_00]: He does but then he's like...

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_03]: He's some sort of lizard.

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a gecko.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's like a gecko.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_00]: But then he goes through like an emo phase and then this becomes like...

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I don't like drizzle.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Drizzle?

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like drizzle.

[00:49:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And then there's Intlian who is just...

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_03]: He's a secret agent.

[00:49:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Well he's supposed to be like James Bond.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I never picked...

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I pick Grookey every time.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah honestly like...

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_03]: The evolution does not make sense.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean I visually see it but like...

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like it.

[00:49:59] [SPEAKER_00]: They just like the evolution...

[00:50:01] [SPEAKER_00]: The starters since the Kalos have just kind of been at a point where they've just been going downhill.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Because then we move on to the Palladia region and...

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh which is the most...

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_03]: That's the last one that we've had.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Gen 9 yeah.

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_00]: And god damn it like this...

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_00]: These three just don't do anything for me.

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't like either any of these really.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't like the duck?

[00:50:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I replaced my starter.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't like the duck?

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I like his first form but I don't like any of the other ones.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot what these...

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot what these evolve into.

[00:50:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Well let's start with the cat.

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh god damn it!

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_00]: The transition...

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_00]: The transitions don't make any sense on these.

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Also the grass cat is also giving me very much again furry and slightly sexual.

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they drew this to kind of make it look sexy and I don't like that.

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I've seen there are furry costumes of this.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_03]: There are furry costumes of this.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't like that.

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't like it with Pokemon.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It gives me the uncomfy.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a game for kids.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like it.

[00:51:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah but I'm saying Meow-Sparada.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Like things stupid.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I will say the fire type of Fiyo-Koko whatever the fuck.

[00:51:28] [SPEAKER_00]: His evolution chain makes sense.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_04]: I like his sub-brill.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_00]: That is interesting.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_00]: His evolution chain makes sense though.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the one that I chose.

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I chose the little Fwako guy.

[00:51:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I mean Ghost Fire is a nice combo.

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely did enjoy that.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah I did replace him though.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I got rid of my starter in this game.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I thought there was a cooler fire Pokemon so I replaced him with that.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I just didn't really like him that much.

[00:52:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And then Quaxley.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Quaxley is adorable.

[00:52:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I will say I love Quaxley but then I don't like his next form.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_00]: His two evolution chains don't make any sense.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I hate whatever is on his head in the second.

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he went from adorable to like fly.

[00:52:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He went from newspaper boy hat to Robocop.

[00:52:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Robocop.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you on the final one yet?

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Because he goes from Robocop to Sambodanser.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like those are like...

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean we finally got water fighting but it sucks.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought we had water fighting.

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_03]: No we had grass fighting.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_00]: My god.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Like Gen, fucking Scarlet and Violet.

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything about that game just bothers the fuck out of me.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:52:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder are they doing a new Pokemon?

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_00]: If they are they haven't announced yet.

[00:53:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So I had mentioned it earlier.

[00:53:06] [SPEAKER_00]: We should talk about...

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_00]: We should talk about Arceus.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Because Arceus did a pretty unique thing with its starters where it just picked three starters randomly.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Which the ones they picked I thought were interesting because it picked...

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Hyphlo, well Cyndaquil, Oshawott as the water type and then I think it was Rowlet.

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It was. It was my boy Rowlet because guess who picked Rowlet?

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_00]: You were like probably one of the few because when they put Cyndaquil there I just went oh gee I wonder what everyone's gonna pick.

[00:53:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey I enjoyed the shit out of playing with my...

[00:53:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh that sounds weird.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Out of picking Rowlet.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna finish that sentence.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_03]: They look so cute too.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I remember...

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh I'm looking at the one where it shows like the three in like the professor's house and you gotta pick.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_03]: They're just so cute even though Cyndaquil kind of looks like he just...

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's passing some gas with just how these flames behind them are going.

[00:54:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Their choice there I just thought was weird because it's like they literally like they picked one early one and then they were both like...

[00:54:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah let's pick some newer ones. It was just like gee I wonder the nostalgia fans are gonna...

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder which one they're gonna pick.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Well I think they probably did it more based on the...

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Because for each of these ones they had a special design.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So I think it was kind of based on that because...

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I just find it interesting that it was set in the Sinnoh region basically and they didn't choose a Sinnoh starter.

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Although you can find them in game which is it's weird.

[00:54:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Well see that makes sense though because it's like during the early days you could go and find those starters wherever they weren't...

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_03]: True.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_00]: RCS was such a weird game. I liked it but my god it was weird.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah so those are all the starters so far.

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Have you ever looked at fan theory? Like their guesses of what the starters will look like?

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I remember it was cool when the last group of starters came out looking at people's...

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Like when they were guessing of what the Pokemon would look like or if it got leaked that like...

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh it was a fire crocodile and people would kind of guess what it would look like.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it was nothing like that.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_00]: My absolute favorite was in the most recent game Scarlet and Violet.

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_00]: The starters themselves got leaked and fans actually came up with their evolutions.

[00:55:48] [SPEAKER_00]: And they looked a hundred times better than the actual evolutions.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to look that up.

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I was going to rank them.

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very sad because the top of the ranking is basically all the first five games and then everything else is just kind of like whatever after.

[00:56:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I mean I think it was pretty...

[00:56:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah!

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I remember there was like...

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh there were these ones that were pretty...

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at some of these now and I'm like these were sick!

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Like of the fan theories of what they would look like and then what we got.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_03]: There's this one of like Fuego where he ends up almost being like this zombie-like dinosaur.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And like that's sick!

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Why didn't they do something like that?

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Instead we got like weird...

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_00]: To be fair though, his evolution at least made sense.

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_00]: The other two...

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah but he could have been so much cooler.

[00:56:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said though...

[00:56:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god!

[00:56:49] [SPEAKER_03]: This one of Quacksley where he ends up becoming a pirate bird!

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Why were we wronged?

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder why you like that one.

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_03]: You know what he also looks like?

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_03]: He also looks like Pelipper from Animal Crossing.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_03]: So with this character design.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Just saying, we were robbed.

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah if I'm going to pick my favorite gen though it's definitely gen 3.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Probably followed by gen 1, then 5, then 2, then 4.

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Then after that I don't...

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Who cares?

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I lost the screen.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I closed it prematurely.

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Bulbulpedia...

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Starters...

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_03]: My first...

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_03]: How would I rank them?

[00:57:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I found them.

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see.

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay I gotta do Canto number 1.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Then I gotta do Hoenn number 2.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Yunova number 3.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I really like Sinnoh.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Sinnoh is number 4.

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Jodo number 5.

[00:58:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Galar number 6.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Alola number 7.

[00:58:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Kalos...

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_00]: See you actually rated all of those and I was just like fuck the rest.

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.

[00:58:20] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I rated them all.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm not a quitter.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess someone named...

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Billiam Warbur.

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Well I'm sorry the last Pokemon game I truly enjoyed was gen 6.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And even then that was mostly because it was fresh and new at the time.

[00:58:40] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean I've come around on Sword and Shield quite a bit.

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I've enjoyed that one in my time.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been playing it recently.

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Still gotta finish it so we're gonna eventually we'll probably revisit that game.

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I remember I infamously hated that game back in the day.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I know!

[00:58:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like it's not that bad and you were like...

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I fell asleep during our video talking about the Pokemon from it.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Alright alright you shut up.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_04]: You shut up right now.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so Starters.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_00]: I like them.

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_00]: They're very important.

[00:59:19] [SPEAKER_02]: What?

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Bill likes things?

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Bill is a fan of things?

[00:59:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So...

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably...

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_00]: We'll do more Pokemon probably at some point.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_03]: No, we're banning Pokemon.

[00:59:35] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a Digimon exclusive podcast.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_00]: We already did that.

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_03]: No!

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_03]: We're not talking about Pokemon ever again.

[00:59:45] [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna talk about beans on toast.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, so yeah we'll probably...

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't ignore... Acknowledge me.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Acknowledge my cursedness.

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't you mute me.

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't put that stupid...

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_03]: No one cares about my facts.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone cares about my facts.

[01:00:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And you know what?

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna look up another one.

[01:00:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna look up a nice joke for you.

[01:00:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Because that's what you think of me.

[01:00:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I forgot a whole piece of hair.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you think of me.

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Sirs, you're right.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_03]: You consider me a joke.

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But I am not a joke to you, Bill.

[01:00:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I am your co-host that you're gonna fire.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Soon, right?

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So...

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, wait, wait.

[01:00:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking up a dad joke.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So guys, thanks so much for watching the game.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I was listening...

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_05]: My god.

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks so much for listening to the Gaming and Collecting Podcast.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_03]: The Gaming and Collecting Podcast is available on all your favorite podcasting platforms.

[01:00:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Particularly Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Good Podcasts...

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You said the ones that...

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_00]: We're on all the podcasting platforms.

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_03]: We're on YouTube sometimes.

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: No, we're always on YouTube.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_00]: The video versions just don't always come out for this show in particular.

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That being said, though, I would like to shout out our network, the Superpod Network of podcasters.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You can find...

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The Superpod Network is a really awesome little website that we've been building up lately.

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's got a whole ton of different podcasting shows.

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a bunch of videos, blogs, all sorts of stuff.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_00]: But in particular, I want to shout out the other awesome creators over there like Superpod Saga, Superghost Radio, Retro Rehab,

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_00]: A Novel Console, Remember 64, Bar Silence, Fine Time, Gaming Together, Friday Night Gamecast,

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Be All the Trolls, Tommy's Video Game Ride Along, all of our GNC shows.

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a great bunch of people.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's constantly pumping out content.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And we do a whole bunch of group things as well.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Like we did a...

[01:02:08] [SPEAKER_00]: As you're always sleeping...

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_02]: You just messaged me and said, hey, we're doing this.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: I texted you multiple times this day and you never responded.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_02]: Wait, when? No, you didn't.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I did ask you when we were going to record this. You never responded so I just said it out because she's...

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I did that. I see it now but I didn't see that.