G&C Podcast - Episode 168: Let's Talk About "Quiet On Set"!

[00:00:00] Hey guys, on this episode of Gaming And Collecting, me and Alex are taking some time to discuss

[00:00:05] the recent television documentary series, Quiet On Set, the dark side of kids TV.

[00:00:11] Boy, is this one a doozy.

[00:00:14] It gets pretty dark in a kind of depressing at times in this one, but hopefully everyone

[00:00:20] enjoys.

[00:00:21] Enjoy the episode.

[00:00:30] So, how you been?

[00:00:46] I'm glad tomorrow is my technical Friday.

[00:00:50] Rough week?

[00:00:51] No, this is totally bad.

[00:00:54] It's more of just like, just irritating.

[00:00:57] Like, irritating things happen.

[00:00:59] Like, my keys just broke in the middle of the parking lot at work and I was like, are you

[00:01:06] kidding me?

[00:01:07] Like, one of my key chains broke and it like caused everything to fall off the key chain

[00:01:11] so I had to pick up all my keys in the middle of the parking lot which sucked.

[00:01:15] You had to scan it four times to make sure you had everything?

[00:01:19] Well, yeah, because the scary part was like, oh my god, I can't find my actual car

[00:01:24] key fob.

[00:01:25] And it was in the car and like, it was scary because like, I usually, when I get out of

[00:01:31] the car, my instinct is to lock the door like manually just because Jesus.

[00:01:38] Tilly, oh, Tilly was on the cabinets and she thumped down.

[00:01:46] I heard this giant thump.

[00:01:48] She scared the shit out of me.

[00:01:51] I thought someone was breaking into my house.

[00:01:54] But anyways, I usually lock the door right behind me because stranger danger.

[00:01:59] People are scary and they will try and hurt people and mug them or steal their

[00:02:04] company cars.

[00:02:06] So I usually lock them behind me because I'm paranoid.

[00:02:08] But thank God I did because if I had, I would walk my key in the car.

[00:02:13] Yeah, it sucked.

[00:02:17] And then I bit my cheek.

[00:02:19] You know, like when you bite your cheek and then it just like hurts

[00:02:24] really badly, like hurts to do everything.

[00:02:28] So I just wanted to.

[00:02:30] Well, and also it's like I'm excited for this weekend because this weekend

[00:02:34] they have my Boston and I just wanted to be that.

[00:02:39] Yeah.

[00:02:40] Yeah, I hate short weeks.

[00:02:43] I hate and love short weeks.

[00:02:45] You too.

[00:02:47] Well, because it's like they show up out of the, you know,

[00:02:52] you have the anticipation that it's going to be a short week.

[00:02:55] So it makes them feel so much longer.

[00:02:56] Oh, yeah, that's definitely in the air.

[00:02:59] It's very much in the air.

[00:03:02] They changed all the time clocks at a.

[00:03:05] I call away.

[00:03:06] Oh, they did.

[00:03:08] Yeah, they changed the system.

[00:03:09] So now it's like it takes it's like you don't just scan it now.

[00:03:12] Now you have to scan it and then press a button on the screen.

[00:03:16] Oh, so now it takes like longer.

[00:03:19] So now there's like more traffic jams and it's taking.

[00:03:21] Oh, really?

[00:03:22] Yeah.

[00:03:23] Now people are being late for work because like they'll come in and

[00:03:25] they'll scan and then they'll they'll get like trip.

[00:03:27] No, they'll they'll come in and they'll be a line of people and

[00:03:30] they'll be at the end of the line.

[00:03:32] Oh, that sucks.

[00:03:33] Yeah, it's annoying.

[00:03:35] And the thing is start coming in earlier.

[00:03:38] Yeah, which sucks too.

[00:03:40] The worst is when it's like a line of outgoing employees like

[00:03:44] that are leaving and then you're trying to punch in and you're like,

[00:03:47] please let me in.

[00:03:49] Usually they're nice enough and they'll let you punch in and then go.

[00:03:52] But it's like it's annoying now because it's like there's like extra steps and shit.

[00:03:58] Yeah, no, I've well, you told me that like half the stuff I implement is already

[00:04:04] out in the soup kitchen trash area.

[00:04:06] So honestly, yes, I've seen quite a few whiteboards.

[00:04:09] Honestly, I'm just like, I don't I don't really.

[00:04:13] I like felt a little bad when I first left, but at this point I'm like,

[00:04:16] no, I don't feel like a man anymore.

[00:04:19] Go fuck yourself.

[00:04:23] People do ask about you every now and then though.

[00:04:25] Well, they do.

[00:04:26] It's not like I died or anything.

[00:04:28] I just got a better job.

[00:04:30] You left Calaway so you're dead to the point.

[00:04:32] You know what's funny though today?

[00:04:34] Today at work, this guy stops me.

[00:04:36] He's like, you look really familiar.

[00:04:38] I said, oh, well, I am new here, but sure.

[00:04:41] Where do you think you know him from?

[00:04:42] He's like, did you work at Calaway?

[00:04:44] And I'm like, oh, yes, I did.

[00:04:46] He's like, wow, you're like the eighth person who's left from there

[00:04:49] and started working here.

[00:04:51] And I'm just like, yep, it's fucking sucks there.

[00:04:53] That's why.

[00:04:56] Yeah.

[00:04:58] But I'll let you know when they're hiring in the tool room.

[00:05:01] Bill, well, let me know what their pay is first because

[00:05:05] it's not worth it that it's not worth it.

[00:05:07] Yeah, no, I'm goofing around.

[00:05:09] But how's your week been?

[00:05:14] I've been tired, honestly.

[00:05:16] That's yeah.

[00:05:18] Feel that especially the past couple days because it's been

[00:05:20] like that weird weather where it's like it's not raining,

[00:05:23] but it sure looks like it's going to rain.

[00:05:24] Oh, it was raining today when I left.

[00:05:27] Oh, what?

[00:05:28] Yeah, I drove home.

[00:05:30] Yeah, you probably just missed it.

[00:05:31] It started as I was getting home.

[00:05:33] Huh.

[00:05:34] I must have just missed it.

[00:05:36] Yeah.

[00:05:37] Yeah, it's got rain like all night into tomorrow, but I feel

[00:05:39] like this whole week is just looked like it's going to rain.

[00:05:43] But it's been like 50 leaving so it's like not even cold.

[00:05:46] It's just dank.

[00:05:48] Luke Luke Luke cold.

[00:05:51] It's not like Luke warm because it's not really warm,

[00:05:54] but it's not really cold.

[00:05:55] It's like Luke Luke the opposite of Luke warm.

[00:05:59] Mild cold.

[00:06:01] I went to Barnes and Noble yesterday.

[00:06:03] Why?

[00:06:04] You're not allowed there.

[00:06:05] They put your picture up in the window and they said,

[00:06:07] don't let them in.

[00:06:09] I don't think they do that to people who are regular buyers

[00:06:12] of their products.

[00:06:13] You buy it out all the stocks.

[00:06:16] Get out.

[00:06:18] You're going before all of them have been released to

[00:06:20] the public and taking it early.

[00:06:23] Well, that's not my fault.

[00:06:24] That's Barnes and Noble's fault for putting them out.

[00:06:27] Well, you can't be the lucky person every time and

[00:06:30] they've caught on your band.

[00:06:32] I'm not always.

[00:06:33] Sometimes I'll go and I'd be what I'm looking for isn't there

[00:06:36] and I'll be sad.

[00:06:38] Well, what do you do if what would you do if Barnes and

[00:06:41] Noble banned you from their store?

[00:06:44] I'd go somewhere else.

[00:06:45] Would you cry?

[00:06:47] No, I just go somewhere else.

[00:06:49] You wouldn't cry a little bit.

[00:06:51] I just go somewhere else.

[00:06:57] If they don't want if they don't want my money, that's

[00:07:00] fine.

[00:07:01] I'll just go give it to somewhere else.

[00:07:04] All right, you're no fun.

[00:07:06] It's it's funny.

[00:07:07] My new work is really down the street from the awesome Barnes

[00:07:10] and Noble.

[00:07:11] So maybe if I feel like it, I'll stop there after work one

[00:07:15] day, but I've spent too much money.

[00:07:17] Glasses are expensive.

[00:07:20] Yep.

[00:07:21] I was sorry.

[00:07:22] I went to an eye doctor appointment.

[00:07:24] Oh, I can tell you my contact story.

[00:07:27] Do I want to know?

[00:07:29] So I tried to get contacts and part of the thing is, is

[00:07:34] they don't just give them to you.

[00:07:35] They want you to actually be able to put them in at the

[00:07:39] at the eye doctor's office and take them out at the

[00:07:42] eye doctor's office.

[00:07:43] Well, I could get them in my fucking eyes and I was

[00:07:47] supposed to they're like two hours pulling my eyeballs

[00:07:50] open trying to stick something in there.

[00:07:53] I couldn't do it and I gave up and I said, you

[00:07:56] don't fuck it.

[00:07:57] I'm keeping glasses because this fucking sucks.

[00:08:01] Yep.

[00:08:02] My eye hurt after oh, and then I also like I like bang

[00:08:07] my wrist.

[00:08:07] You can't really see it on the camera because of the

[00:08:09] light, but my whole wrist where I got it banged is

[00:08:12] all yellow from a bruise because a shopping cart

[00:08:15] mangled me.

[00:08:16] But anyways, the soft topic anyways, I couldn't do

[00:08:19] contacts.

[00:08:20] I got glasses and of course I have expensive days

[00:08:24] and I got the most expensive pair of fucking glasses

[00:08:27] in the store.

[00:08:28] But they were the only ones they fucking liked.

[00:08:30] I was like, God fucking damn it.

[00:08:32] Oh, my favorite is when I go for glasses.

[00:08:35] $600 on glasses.

[00:08:37] See, my favorite is when I go for glasses.

[00:08:40] I grabbed like the cheapest was practical was a

[00:08:42] bomb's like no, no, no, no, you need nicer ones.

[00:08:44] I'm just like, mom, I don't care that much.

[00:08:49] I cared because I got a new stat.

[00:08:51] Well, they're still clear, but they're like

[00:08:54] they're like almost like a pink, like a light pink,

[00:08:57] but they're clear.

[00:08:59] And I can't wait to have them and I got new sunglasses

[00:09:02] that are sparkly also happy as soon as I put them on.

[00:09:07] I was like, he and mom was like, of course you

[00:09:09] picked the fuck sparkly ones.

[00:09:12] Yeah, I'm a menace.

[00:09:14] But yes, so I spent $600 on glasses that I wasn't

[00:09:17] planning on spending.

[00:09:19] So I spend a little too much this month.

[00:09:21] So I need to hold it back.

[00:09:23] I still have to my Boston.

[00:09:24] So originally I budgeted more for it, but now I'm

[00:09:26] going to have to hold back only by one figure or a

[00:09:30] couple of volumes of mongos.

[00:09:33] Yeah.

[00:09:35] Well, just let me know if you see anything and

[00:09:37] I'll wire you the money.

[00:09:39] You're wiring me the money.

[00:09:41] You better wire me the money.

[00:09:43] I know a guy in the mafia.

[00:09:47] But I was going to say I went to Barnes and Noble

[00:09:49] because I picked up.

[00:09:50] Oh, yeah, I forgot that's where they were.

[00:09:52] That was going.

[00:09:53] Yeah, you kind of just fully just chat on my story.

[00:09:57] I'm sorry.

[00:09:58] I sometimes I have these little bits and I just go

[00:10:01] with them for the relief of the guest bill.

[00:10:05] There's some people probably a small percentage.

[00:10:10] Probably no one who listens to this podcast for my

[00:10:12] annoying rambling.

[00:10:14] No, I'm pretty sure we have we have our friends

[00:10:16] who enjoy your chaos.

[00:10:19] You know, I haven't done it while.

[00:10:21] I haven't done the Randy Savage voice in a while.

[00:10:24] Oh, much, I'm in and I'm not going to do it ever again.

[00:10:27] So fuck you guys.

[00:10:29] Oh, you'll let it out.

[00:10:31] No, it ain't coming out.

[00:10:35] I got to add that to the soundboard.

[00:10:37] One of these days.

[00:10:38] What?

[00:10:39] And the cream into crop.

[00:10:41] You're the cream of the.

[00:10:44] Pope.

[00:10:46] Fuck you.

[00:10:47] But anyway, so yeah, I went to Barnes and Noble.

[00:10:51] So I just interrupt you one more time.

[00:10:53] Just for.

[00:10:55] If you do, I have a way to counteract you.

[00:10:57] Oh, no.

[00:10:58] Me.

[00:11:01] Can't do it.

[00:11:01] No.

[00:11:03] No.

[00:11:04] Take it down.

[00:11:06] Take it down.

[00:11:08] All right.

[00:11:08] But the final volume of Kaguya Sama finally came out.

[00:11:12] Oh, did you cry?

[00:11:15] No, but I was a little bit.

[00:11:17] I was a little sad because it was like.

[00:11:19] It's over now.

[00:11:20] We're not we're not going to get any more.

[00:11:23] Nope.

[00:11:24] Got to focus on Alex Burp here, so I had to edit it out.

[00:11:30] You got that.

[00:11:32] Fifty fifty.

[00:11:34] You got that out.

[00:11:41] That was unplanned.

[00:11:43] It just happened.

[00:11:44] You got it out.

[00:11:47] Right now.

[00:11:51] Okay, I marked it.

[00:11:55] It's still.

[00:11:58] I like the last one I listened to.

[00:12:01] Oh, I'm going to.

[00:12:02] My nose.

[00:12:04] Well, you were playing.

[00:12:06] No, you were playing the trumpet.

[00:12:12] I'm going to.

[00:12:13] I'm.

[00:12:18] So mad when I heard that and that's why I sent you those

[00:12:23] texts and so much rage.

[00:12:26] My favorite part of that is when you come back and I'm

[00:12:29] just perplexed and then your response is like, did something

[00:12:32] happen?

[00:12:33] And I just go.

[00:12:34] No.

[00:12:35] No.

[00:12:40] It is because she covered it so well.

[00:12:43] Like it's just like a police.

[00:12:47] Well, no, what happened was I was trying to continue

[00:12:49] with the conversation.

[00:12:52] And then it happened and it completely killed my train

[00:12:55] of thought and I did not know what to do.

[00:12:59] That's what you got him done.

[00:13:02] No.

[00:13:04] You don't cut that burp out.

[00:13:05] I'm going to be pissed.

[00:13:07] I'll do something you'll see.

[00:13:08] No, you won't.

[00:13:10] You'll just cut it out.

[00:13:11] Just going to edit in the cream of the crop.

[00:13:16] Anyways, you're sad about Kaguya's Sama.

[00:13:20] Well, yeah, because it's like one of the first

[00:13:23] on goings that I started a little bit.

[00:13:27] Okay, I'll leave the burp in there.

[00:13:29] No, no, I'm sorry.

[00:13:32] It's okay.

[00:13:32] You can be sad.

[00:13:34] You can cry.

[00:13:35] I won't judge you.

[00:13:40] Thirsty.

[00:13:41] Yeah.

[00:13:43] Yeah, that was kind of kind of a bummer though.

[00:13:45] It was like just like the end of an era.

[00:13:48] Yeah.

[00:13:51] Could you hear that?

[00:13:52] No.

[00:13:53] I thought you could hear my chair making farty noises.

[00:13:57] It wasn't me.

[00:13:58] It was the chair.

[00:13:59] Oh, when you drinking.

[00:14:01] Yeah.

[00:14:02] What?

[00:14:04] Like a death.

[00:14:06] What flavor?

[00:14:08] Severed lime.

[00:14:10] Oh, guess what I'm drinking.

[00:14:15] Whatever that yellow stuff was.

[00:14:17] Toxic sewage water.

[00:14:19] No, it's a Gatorade zero with zero sugar.

[00:14:25] No sugar.

[00:14:27] Um, so it tastes like like poop.

[00:14:31] It's fine.

[00:14:32] There is reelectro lights to help replenish what you lose in

[00:14:38] sweat.

[00:14:39] There is it's lemon lime flavored naturally flavored with

[00:14:45] other natural flavors.

[00:14:48] It's kind of a weird sentence.

[00:14:49] Uh, let's see nutrition facts.

[00:14:53] The serving size is one bottle.

[00:14:56] If you couldn't guess, it's not just half of this is

[00:14:59] one bottle.

[00:15:01] Uh, five calories zero.

[00:15:05] There's a lot of stuff.

[00:15:07] Usually with the water bottles, I don't have to read this

[00:15:09] much.

[00:15:09] It's a lot of information, but there's water.

[00:15:12] So do you have a solid?

[00:15:17] Nobody are you interrupting me?

[00:15:19] Yeah.

[00:15:20] Are you interrupting me?

[00:15:23] I'm just going to insert your burp sound effect.

[00:15:25] No.

[00:15:28] You can scan for more info.

[00:15:31] There's a QR code every fridge right after opening.

[00:15:36] Okay.

[00:15:38] I'm done.

[00:15:39] Gatorade lemon lime.

[00:15:41] Oh, just a lemon lime flavor.

[00:15:45] So do you have, um, do you have an irrational fear of

[00:15:48] bridges now?

[00:15:51] I mean, I always feared the bridges.

[00:15:53] So my fear was always there.

[00:15:56] But now it proves that my fear is accurate.

[00:16:00] So are you like all the people on Reddit who are just

[00:16:02] afraid of bridges now?

[00:16:04] I was always afraid of them.

[00:16:06] So I was, I was there before them.

[00:16:10] Fuck you guys.

[00:16:11] I already knew bridges are scary.

[00:16:14] Just like the ocean.

[00:16:15] That's why it's doubly scary to bridge over the

[00:16:18] ocean or was there a river?

[00:16:21] I don't know.

[00:16:21] I feel like there's ocean water in there.

[00:16:23] It's kind of a, it was like a bay.

[00:16:25] There's a deep body of water and those scare me.

[00:16:28] So because that boat is in there, it's probably a deep

[00:16:31] body of water because that's a thick ass boat.

[00:16:34] Um, the ship ship.

[00:16:38] What the fuck ever?

[00:16:39] Oh, ship nerd ship nerd.

[00:16:42] Um, yeah, no, it scared me.

[00:16:45] I don't like, I don't like boats.

[00:16:48] I don't like the deep ocean water and I don't like

[00:16:51] bridges.

[00:16:52] So I don't like anything about that news story.

[00:16:55] So that was a cocktail of fear for you.

[00:16:57] Yeah, I freaking want the deep water scares me like

[00:17:01] underwater.

[00:17:02] I don't like looking at that.

[00:17:04] I mean, that was a bay.

[00:17:05] That wasn't that deep, but it's still scary.

[00:17:08] I don't like it if I, if my head is underneath it.

[00:17:13] If I can't see above it, I don't want to be in it.

[00:17:17] I don't want to be near it.

[00:17:18] No, thank you.

[00:17:20] See, oh my God, my eye looks so fucking right.

[00:17:22] Sorry.

[00:17:24] I'm high on one.

[00:17:25] I'm just kidding.

[00:17:28] Yeah, but we've waffled on enough.

[00:17:32] Let's go.

[00:17:33] What are your thoughts on the boat?

[00:17:35] Are you upset your Amazon package?

[00:17:37] Is I'm going to make it on time?

[00:17:40] It was going to be late anyways.

[00:17:42] Well, now it's going to be super late.

[00:17:43] Oh, did you see that they put like the, um, I

[00:17:46] forget what they called it, but it's basically like all

[00:17:50] the people who own those crates there once they like docked

[00:17:54] at the ocean, they're just like, yeah, you got to come

[00:17:56] pick it up at this point.

[00:17:58] We're not delivering it to you.

[00:18:00] You have to pick it up.

[00:18:01] So all of the companies who have those storage bins also

[00:18:05] if you're really interested in like learning about something

[00:18:08] weird, you should really look up those like shipping bins

[00:18:11] and how many of them get lost in the ocean.

[00:18:14] It's quite fascinating.

[00:18:16] They aren't secure at all.

[00:18:17] And there's like companies that go in just to go and

[00:18:20] retrieve those storage bins and then they sell shit.

[00:18:23] I'm like, that's crazy.

[00:18:26] Yeah.

[00:18:26] Well, I mean, it's just gravity.

[00:18:27] They literally just sit in there.

[00:18:29] Yeah.

[00:18:30] It's crazy.

[00:18:32] You want to know it's more fascinating that they actually

[00:18:34] have to, uh, the planning, like, uh, there's actually

[00:18:38] plans for how those things get put on the ships and

[00:18:40] they can't put certain things next to certain things

[00:18:42] because like, there's been incidents in the past

[00:18:45] where they explode and cause chemical reactions.

[00:18:49] Yeah.

[00:18:49] Yeah.

[00:18:50] Like you can't put the volatile chemicals on the upper

[00:18:53] deck in the sun.

[00:18:55] No, which that was a good idea.

[00:18:59] Well, most safety features, most safety things in the

[00:19:03] world are implemented in blood.

[00:19:05] So yes.

[00:19:09] Remember most, most safety rules are written in blood.

[00:19:13] Yeah.

[00:19:15] Yeah.

[00:19:16] Unfortunately, unless it's kind of look.

[00:19:21] Yeah.

[00:19:22] I'm a week.

[00:19:24] I finished my cosplay today.

[00:19:26] Good.

[00:19:27] I finished it.

[00:19:28] So now it will be ready for this weekend.

[00:19:31] I'm excited.

[00:19:32] I put a lot of work into this one.

[00:19:34] So I hope I hope it doesn't look like shit.

[00:19:38] It won't but um, yeah.

[00:19:41] So moving on to our topic.

[00:19:43] This is a.

[00:19:45] Probably put a trigger warning on this one.

[00:19:48] Yes.

[00:19:50] Go warning.

[00:19:52] I feel like it shouldn't be that.

[00:19:54] No.

[00:19:56] So if you didn't obviously they've probably read the

[00:20:00] they've read the name of the episode at this point,

[00:20:02] but some people just listen mindlessly like they'll listen

[00:20:07] to an episode and listen to the next one.

[00:20:09] So for those who are just listening like I do

[00:20:13] mindlessly continue Bill.

[00:20:15] Well, for this episode we're going to be covering the recently

[00:20:19] released quiet on the set documentary talking about the dark

[00:20:24] side of Nickelodeon live action shows.

[00:20:28] Yes.

[00:20:29] This recently came out and it's kind of taken the world by

[00:20:33] storm a little which is interesting because it was a lot

[00:20:38] of the stuff we knew but then there was things that we

[00:20:41] definitely did not know.

[00:20:42] Yeah, which I feel like is more of like the.

[00:20:47] Second half of this series.

[00:20:50] I mean episode two alone is like it goes off the deep end.

[00:20:53] Episode one is pretty tame.

[00:20:55] Um, that's mostly shit that we already knew like the

[00:20:59] insiniters kind of piece of shit like most of us knew

[00:21:01] that.

[00:21:02] Well, in like but it does go well, we'll kind of get

[00:21:04] more into it, but it definitely the reason we wanted

[00:21:08] to talk about this was because like we as kids.

[00:21:12] This was what we grew up with.

[00:21:15] We watch these shows.

[00:21:16] We watched the Dan Schneider shows.

[00:21:19] Well, Nickelodeon.

[00:21:20] Mostly we weren't Disney kids like we were Nickelodeon

[00:21:23] kids.

[00:21:24] Well, Disney's live action offerings just weren't as

[00:21:27] interesting like I'm trying to think what their shows

[00:21:30] were there was like.

[00:21:32] Boy needs more.

[00:21:33] Well, even the older ones like boy meets a world and

[00:21:37] even Stevens like that's really about it and I never

[00:21:41] really watched those.

[00:21:43] I remember Phil of the future was really big like

[00:21:45] I think that's the only one I kind of watched.

[00:21:47] Yeah.

[00:21:50] You have a Disney's live action offerings never really

[00:21:54] kept up with it.

[00:21:55] They never really drew us in as much, which is funny

[00:21:58] because like personally not everyone in general

[00:22:01] because some people are diehard fans of those

[00:22:03] Disney shows, but for us we watch Nickelodeon.

[00:22:08] Just yeah.

[00:22:10] It worked.

[00:22:10] Remember, can you remember Cartoon Network short lived

[00:22:13] attempt at trying to do live action?

[00:22:16] Well, they tried it and they said, you know what?

[00:22:18] Let's stick to what we know.

[00:22:20] Cartoon.

[00:22:20] They tried it and they made a fucking fever dream

[00:22:23] called out of Jimmy's head.

[00:22:25] Right now that remembers that.

[00:22:27] I think they tried it again later on too.

[00:22:30] There's been a couple shows, but they never went.

[00:22:33] They never went well.

[00:22:35] They never were great.

[00:22:36] Well, it's almost like Cartoon Network should focus

[00:22:38] on cartoons, not Network.

[00:22:41] Not cartoons.

[00:22:44] But Nickelodeon, I feel like really these shows were

[00:22:48] game changers.

[00:22:49] Well, Nickelodeon you got to remember started with like

[00:22:52] well, the early days of Nickelodeon are really fucking

[00:22:54] interesting because they're mostly Canadian like random

[00:22:58] shit that they just kind of got the licensing for.

[00:23:00] Yeah.

[00:23:02] Then they kind of got there the first couple of

[00:23:04] Nicktoons like everyone remembers the famous like

[00:23:06] the original four like Rugrats, Hey Arnold,

[00:23:09] Rocko's Modern Life and Aureal Monsters.

[00:23:15] Among others, but they're also their live action was

[00:23:18] surprisingly in depth.

[00:23:21] Like there was the most well-knowns were like all

[00:23:24] that all that was huge.

[00:23:27] Well, that was very big and a lot of it did the truth.

[00:23:30] They did, you know, start a lot of people's careers.

[00:23:34] There was also this one wasn't nearly as controversial,

[00:23:38] but there was also Are You Afraid of the Dark?

[00:23:42] Which I remember that show gave me nightmares as a kid.

[00:23:47] As it should since it's Are You Afraid of the Dark?

[00:23:50] Watching it now is kind of laughable, but like back in

[00:23:53] the day, there was some kind of sketchy shit with

[00:23:55] that show.

[00:23:56] Oh yeah, I'm sure.

[00:23:57] I'm sure there was.

[00:23:58] But for the most part, the shows a lot of people

[00:24:01] remember are the shows that this documentary talks

[00:24:04] about, which are the later shows, which kind of sucks

[00:24:10] a little like a lot because like you look back at

[00:24:13] those shows and you're just like, it was hard to watch

[00:24:18] because they're just kind of sad.

[00:24:21] Knowing what was going on behind the scenes.

[00:24:24] Like it just kind of sucks.

[00:24:25] I mean all that is unwatchable now because of

[00:24:29] because of watching this, not because of the content,

[00:24:31] more just because of a certain individual that was

[00:24:34] highly present in that show.

[00:24:36] Oh yeah.

[00:24:37] And I guess, yeah, we'll kind of talk about that.

[00:24:40] But I guess we can first.

[00:24:42] Introduction, this affected us a lot, which is why

[00:24:45] we want to talk about it because it was a huge

[00:24:47] part of our childhood.

[00:24:49] But episode one was called Rising Stars Rising

[00:24:53] Questions.

[00:24:54] And this one primarily focused around the early

[00:24:57] career of Dan Schneider and the people that he worked

[00:25:00] like people that worked around him.

[00:25:02] Primarily it was focused around his two of the

[00:25:06] writers, Christy Stratton and Kelly Kilgan.

[00:25:11] And it kind of was focused around them.

[00:25:13] Jenny Kilden.

[00:25:14] Jenny.

[00:25:14] Oh sorry.

[00:25:15] Double K.

[00:25:16] I don't know.

[00:25:17] Double vision.

[00:25:19] And it was kind of focused around just all the sexual

[00:25:23] discrimination that they went through.

[00:25:26] Like one of the things that was crazy is that like they

[00:25:29] were, they both split the salary of like one writer.

[00:25:35] To be fair, not defending it, but the 90s were kind of

[00:25:39] bad about that in general.

[00:25:41] Yeah, but it's still, it's still wrong.

[00:25:45] No, it's wrong in every way, but this wasn't exclusively

[00:25:48] a Dan Schneider thing.

[00:25:50] The one thing I had took issue with with this

[00:25:52] thing.

[00:25:53] I'm not defending Dan Schneider in the slightest.

[00:25:55] There was a lot of like things they threw at him that

[00:25:58] I was kind of like this was common like everywhere.

[00:26:01] This wasn't exclusively a Dan Schneider thing.

[00:26:04] Doesn't make it right, but I did feel like they should

[00:26:07] have like maybe pointed that out that it wasn't

[00:26:09] exclusively them.

[00:26:11] I mean, I guess they could have, but deep down like

[00:26:14] this kind of piece of shit, he doesn't deserve any

[00:26:17] defending call him out for all the stuff he does.

[00:26:20] Like, I mean, I get it, but at the same time, I'm just

[00:26:23] like he sucks.

[00:26:24] So I don't really know.

[00:26:25] It's not, it's not the fact that I'm not defending him.

[00:26:28] I'm just calling out that like it wasn't just him.

[00:26:31] They kind of made it seem like it was just in this

[00:26:34] little bubble at times.

[00:26:35] Yeah, but that was mostly just for the good that

[00:26:38] it draws attention to just in general about how

[00:26:41] women were treated, especially in that career choice.

[00:26:45] I mean, you know, they weren't the only ones,

[00:26:47] but some of the other stuff they went through was

[00:26:49] disgusting, like the sexual harassment stuff.

[00:26:52] I mean, the fact that he was having like, there's

[00:26:55] that story about the ice cream and how she like had

[00:26:57] to eat two pints of ice cream started throwing up

[00:27:00] because she wanted some extra money because

[00:27:02] she wasn't getting paid enough.

[00:27:03] And then Dan accused her of like, like when she

[00:27:06] called him out because he didn't pay her for it.

[00:27:09] And when she called him out for it, he like

[00:27:11] accused her like threatened her, which is just

[00:27:15] great.

[00:27:16] And like to me, this is crazy because these two

[00:27:20] female writers were only involved.

[00:27:23] They were in all that and then like maybe two episodes.

[00:27:26] I think wasn't it like one of them was only one of

[00:27:29] them left before the Amanda show, but I think

[00:27:31] one of them was like one episode into the

[00:27:33] Amanda show and she was like, I can't do this

[00:27:35] anymore.

[00:27:35] There was a few into season one of the Amanda

[00:27:38] show because I know it was like partially through.

[00:27:42] Yeah, I think it was, but there was only one

[00:27:44] of them. I think the other one had left already.

[00:27:49] But just hearing some of that and then hearing

[00:27:52] like seeing what the kids also went through to

[00:27:55] and so the kids, the kids I found interesting

[00:27:59] like the original all that cast to me is fascinating

[00:28:04] because not talking about the still later seasons

[00:28:07] where like after they revamp the show like post

[00:28:10] Amanda show, the original seasons.

[00:28:14] A lot of those kids I hadn't I didn't remember like

[00:28:18] at all like especially the blonde girl that was

[00:28:22] like the original Amanda.

[00:28:23] Yeah, so and I don't think she was blonde or she

[00:28:27] was younger, but yeah, I didn't remember her, but

[00:28:30] like it also was very interesting to see like

[00:28:34] how the show it still what they went through still

[00:28:37] affects them to this very day.

[00:28:40] Like I can't remember the young man who I know

[00:28:46] his mom was in it as well and he was in that terrible

[00:28:49] nose boy costume.

[00:28:51] Oh, the the the the African American boy.

[00:28:56] Yes, I can't I couldn't remember his name.

[00:28:59] But like you could just tell when he talked that

[00:29:03] like this like that experience messed up its life

[00:29:08] and he just didn't seem like he was like it affected

[00:29:11] him and he said that it did cause him to have a lot

[00:29:14] of challenges growing up and you know, did you notice

[00:29:17] watching rethink.

[00:29:19] I thought about this when I was like watching this, but

[00:29:22] like did you notice like the farther on the the

[00:29:25] series went like all this is talking about all

[00:29:28] of the shows in general.

[00:29:30] Did you notice how like the farther they went

[00:29:32] on the less like diverse casts there were in

[00:29:36] the show?

[00:29:36] Oh yeah.

[00:29:38] Like definitely because there was there was a lot of

[00:29:40] diversity in that is one thing I will give.

[00:29:44] There definitely was unfortunately, though, with the

[00:29:48] diversity all that he was a no yeah.

[00:29:51] Yeah, but the unfortunate thing though about all

[00:29:54] that is that yes they had a diverse cast but they

[00:29:58] typecast them in roles that are very offensive.

[00:30:01] The nose suit was the nose suit was just terrible.

[00:30:06] Well, they especially because it made him uncomfortable.

[00:30:10] Yeah, he said it to them and they didn't care.

[00:30:12] See the thing is the documentary pointed out how

[00:30:16] they really like to point out all like the phallic

[00:30:18] imagery and what's funny is I didn't even notice

[00:30:21] it until like they pointed it out.

[00:30:23] I was more I was more drawn to the fact of how

[00:30:26] like racist the noses were and I was like that's

[00:30:29] more of a concern to me.

[00:30:30] I think yeah the phallic nature is more of a

[00:30:33] reach depending on the angle.

[00:30:36] I don't know.

[00:30:37] I would say like from some of the shots like I immediately

[00:30:40] knew what they were talking about.

[00:30:41] I was like, oh my God, that's terrible.

[00:30:43] See I see what I think the worst thing is more like

[00:30:47] the kid was clearly uncomfortable.

[00:30:48] Yeah, he said he was uncomfortable wearing like an

[00:30:51] almost nude body suit and like yeah, that was weird

[00:30:54] in like no one cared but it also like sucks too

[00:30:58] because I understand where the parents were coming

[00:31:00] from where this was a they talked to it a lot

[00:31:03] and this was a lot of their first jobs.

[00:31:05] It was their first introduction to the entertainment

[00:31:08] industry and they didn't want to mess it up but also

[00:31:11] like what they went through isn't okay.

[00:31:14] It's not right like it will also happen and kids

[00:31:17] should have been protected child labor laws also

[00:31:20] were not really.

[00:31:23] Oh yeah, I mean this I mean unfortunately yeah with

[00:31:27] the time child labor laws were terrible and it's

[00:31:32] very I guess we can talk about this later but you'll

[00:31:36] hear a lot of famous actors and actresses who were

[00:31:39] child actors.

[00:31:42] If they have children, they're like no, I will never

[00:31:44] let my child go through that and yeah this documentary

[00:31:47] will kind of tell you why which is sad.

[00:31:51] Yeah, but the first episode definitely just kind

[00:31:55] of centers around well oh so the other character

[00:31:59] I forget her name but you mentioned her but she was

[00:32:02] kind of the original Amanda.

[00:32:05] She was Dan's favorite and like he promised her like

[00:32:10] the Bluffabla show and as we go into episode 2

[00:32:15] hidden in plain sight this is kind of where it

[00:32:18] introduces Amanda Bynes more into this you know

[00:32:21] the story where she was kind of discovered at a comedy

[00:32:24] club and she was brought onto the show for all that

[00:32:30] and slowly you saw that Amanda came in and then

[00:32:36] Oh, what's her name Katrina.

[00:32:38] I'm looking at it.

[00:32:40] I think it was Katrina Amanda came in and then Katrina

[00:32:44] came out which like sucks for her like that stinks.

[00:32:50] And then I also remember to there was like one comment

[00:32:53] where there was another female on the show.

[00:32:58] It was bit heftier I'm assuming and like Dan had called

[00:33:03] it was it was definitely not her because she made

[00:33:07] an interview stating that she had she didn't receive

[00:33:09] any harsh treatment so I'm a suit that's definitely

[00:33:12] not the one.

[00:33:14] Oh, okay but that's okay this is weird.

[00:33:18] So she didn't interview later that gives okay it is

[00:33:21] actually her but she gave it.

[00:33:22] Yeah, that's well that was my assumption she.

[00:33:27] Um, she she was kind of weird about it like she didn't

[00:33:31] necessarily okay favorite she was treated as a favorite.

[00:33:34] She was she was a favorite until she was no longer the

[00:33:38] thing.

[00:33:39] No yeah so she was the favorite she wasn't the

[00:33:41] favorite anymore when Amanda came in and like she

[00:33:45] was promised oh you're gonna have your own show

[00:33:47] will show eventually became the Amanda show but also

[00:33:51] like some of the things that concept about her to

[00:33:54] was just that she was about her but like started

[00:33:58] growing up.

[00:33:59] She was about her in a way because like she was

[00:34:02] specifically told she needs to lose weight.

[00:34:05] She's getting too fast.

[00:34:07] So that's what I was trying to say in the beginning

[00:34:10] was yeah so there was another girl on the show who

[00:34:13] was also just a little heavier set and she had

[00:34:17] gained weight because she's growing up to adjusting

[00:34:21] to her body things change in a they yeah they basically

[00:34:25] told her there's already a fat one.

[00:34:27] Well you can't they didn't say it like that they

[00:34:30] refer to it as we already have a heavy one.

[00:34:33] No I think these are the fat one I'm pretty sure

[00:34:36] in the documentary said that I regardless though

[00:34:39] like they basically said like lose weight which is

[00:34:43] so traumatizing for kids growing in adolescence like

[00:34:49] sometimes it's out of your control you can't change

[00:34:52] that you're unfortunately that's a very common thing

[00:34:55] just in Hollywood in general which yeah Hollywood's

[00:34:58] fucked up as we've already discovered.

[00:35:03] But when we start going into the Amanda story

[00:35:06] they start highlighting a certain actor who was on

[00:35:12] all that but also worked as a dialogue coach on the

[00:35:17] Amanda show and this is where things really like things

[00:35:21] were bad things get worse when we start learning

[00:35:25] about this guy and this douchebags name is Brian

[00:35:27] Peck and he should really be in jail for like life

[00:35:32] but he's not which is the worst part is he's

[00:35:35] not he's not even the first predator.

[00:35:39] Yeah he isn't the first which is fucking terrible

[00:35:45] because like honestly these are the people we know

[00:35:48] about and I'm sure those people we don't know about

[00:35:50] to which is scary.

[00:35:52] I can't remember what the other guy's name was.

[00:35:56] I'm trying to find it now he was Jason Michael

[00:35:59] handy yeah that guy he was he was a production

[00:36:04] assistant so he wasn't like a character on a show

[00:36:09] or anything he was just kind of an assistant

[00:36:12] but he actually I remember one of the woman where

[00:36:16] they didn't even talk to the girl it he harassed

[00:36:23] they actually spoke with the mother for the interviews

[00:36:26] because it changed the daughter's life and she just

[00:36:28] wanted nothing to do with it which full understanding

[00:36:32] like what she went there is terrible but that asshole

[00:36:35] Jake and Jason Michael handy was sending like dick pics

[00:36:40] to like a 12 year old which is disgusting if you've

[00:36:43] watched enough to catch a predator you know exactly

[00:36:46] where that was going.

[00:36:46] No yeah it's disgusting and then it turned out he

[00:36:49] was sending it to multiple but this man was around

[00:36:51] so many kids.

[00:36:53] Most of them are that's the worst part about it.

[00:36:57] She couldn't have been the only one like and she

[00:36:59] wasn't the only one but she was the only one to kind

[00:37:02] of tell her story to help get him behind bars.

[00:37:06] And again I don't think this guy stayed behind bars

[00:37:10] for that long either which he would so he stayed

[00:37:12] behind a decent amount of time and then other crimes

[00:37:17] to get in trouble for other shit yeah he got

[00:37:19] re he got re committed and he's in jail I believe

[00:37:23] currently good.

[00:37:26] But his was hope he's gonna be up in there.

[00:37:29] Yeah his was bad and what's funny is like we're watching

[00:37:33] and I thought that was like the major one and then

[00:37:35] I completely forgot.

[00:37:35] Oh my God no a lot worse.

[00:37:39] Yeah and Jason Michael handy really fucking sucks

[00:37:43] but Brian Peck really really fucking sucks.

[00:37:47] Um if you don't know who Brian Peck is just the all

[00:37:51] that all that had a very recurring character known

[00:37:54] as pickle boy.

[00:37:56] That was Brian Peck and that is why Bill said all

[00:37:59] that is ruined because he was a very recurring character

[00:38:02] in it and just knowing that there is this disgusting

[00:38:09] not even human being surrounded by those kids

[00:38:14] is just fucking terrible.

[00:38:16] And like it's sad too because like he like there's

[00:38:20] that clip of him with Leonardo DiCaprio like as a

[00:38:23] very young age which just shows like he's been

[00:38:26] doing this for a while.

[00:38:28] Like this isn't something that like this is something

[00:38:31] he was actively pursuing for a very long time which

[00:38:35] is just terrible terrible.

[00:38:37] The worst part is to he was caught and then he

[00:38:40] basically got a slap on the wrist fine and then

[00:38:44] got the second he got out he got hired by Disney.

[00:38:48] Oh yeah like and that was awful in I don't know

[00:38:54] if Disney has spoken out about it or anything but

[00:38:58] the fact that like that's just crazy that a man

[00:39:02] who was guilty went to jail for.

[00:39:09] Also terrible things to a child like being a pedophile

[00:39:13] being a rapist being just a predator like does that

[00:39:18] and then he just gets hired onto a show to work on

[00:39:21] another show with kids.

[00:39:23] What the fuck that's disgusting that that shows

[00:39:27] just how messed up the entertainment industry

[00:39:29] really is.

[00:39:30] No yeah and that's why I'm upset about this because

[00:39:34] like we look back and like this was like our childhood

[00:39:38] like this is like we watch these shows all the time

[00:39:43] like I can't ever watch these back again and feel

[00:39:45] comfortable like knowing that these kids were

[00:39:47] all being abused on set it's insane like it's

[00:39:51] insane.

[00:39:53] Um yeah so some of the other things to

[00:39:58] oh yeah so kind of the next one like after that episode

[00:40:02] well kind of introduces you.

[00:40:05] One notable thing like so they they kind of brought

[00:40:07] up Amanda Bynes and how she was like

[00:40:10] she was Dan's favorite.

[00:40:12] Yeah still probably is his favorite to this day.

[00:40:14] Yeah even though she just probably just wants to be

[00:40:17] she wants to be left alone in general public

[00:40:22] by she just wants to be a normal person and I hope

[00:40:25] people give her the privacy she deserves.

[00:40:29] Yeah but they they talked about how the Amanda show

[00:40:32] was kind of thing apparently the event what I found

[00:40:34] interesting was like the Amanda show like that was

[00:40:37] nighters first like creation like credit.

[00:40:40] Yeah and supposedly like season one he was fairly

[00:40:44] normal and then it went right to his head and

[00:40:47] that's when like the insane dictator kind of came out.

[00:40:52] Yeah which is insane because this guy apparently

[00:40:57] it was like notoriously like awful to work for

[00:41:01] but he made so much money for Nickelodeon that they

[00:41:03] just looked the other way.

[00:41:05] Yeah no I mean like the fact that a lot of this one

[00:41:10] on shows that Nickelodeon I mean the fact that

[00:41:14] we haven't really gotten into this yet but the fact

[00:41:16] that Nickelodeon's logo for a while was a foot.

[00:41:19] That is an unfortunate very unfortunate that is fucking

[00:41:24] terrible but that just shows I mean like it wasn't just

[00:41:28] damn because even like I remember there's that

[00:41:30] to catch a creditor episode where there's a guy

[00:41:33] who was like work for Nickelodeon got caught and

[00:41:37] they showed that there was multiple other people at

[00:41:40] Nickelodeon that got caught and those are just

[00:41:42] the people that got caught.

[00:41:44] There's other people out there for sure.

[00:41:46] They're everywhere and it's kind of disturbing.

[00:41:50] Yes so the third episode kind of goes into okay they

[00:41:55] we didn't we didn't cover one thing I found interesting.

[00:41:59] So after Amanda Bynes grew up and she was moving on

[00:42:03] from Nickelodeon I completely forgot this show existed

[00:42:06] but there was another show called like what I like

[00:42:09] about you I think it was called and that was a

[00:42:12] show on the CW and it was co-created by Dan Snyder

[00:42:17] and then one of the guys from Friends and apparently

[00:42:22] because Dan Snyder didn't have his cushy protection that

[00:42:25] he had at Nickelodeon they fucking got rid of him

[00:42:27] as fast as they could.

[00:42:29] Yeah well and it was kind of weird when they were

[00:42:33] talking about it because truly he was trying to

[00:42:36] piggyback off of Amanda as much as he could like

[00:42:38] he was trying to hold on to stay involved in

[00:42:41] her life as much as he could and it didn't work thankfully

[00:42:48] because I think I mean unfortunately with Amanda

[00:42:53] her life just kind of spiraled out of control not

[00:42:56] necessarily because one thing it also does talk

[00:42:59] about her parents and her parents suck they put

[00:43:02] her into a conservatorship very similarly to Britney

[00:43:05] Spears and she also just got out of it recently

[00:43:09] as well probably because of the push from Britney

[00:43:12] Spears is one as well but that's why at this point

[00:43:16] she just wants to live her life.

[00:43:18] She doesn't want to be involved with the acting

[00:43:21] world or anything so yeah I hope people just leave

[00:43:24] her alone a lot of these people are kind of like out

[00:43:27] of it now and they just want to have nothing to do

[00:43:29] with it.

[00:43:29] No and I don't blame them at all but it's it is scary

[00:43:34] like I'm glad that like at least he wasn't involved

[00:43:38] in her life anymore at that point.

[00:43:41] Yeah but eventually he crawled back to Nickelodeon

[00:43:45] because they let him go wherever he wanted.

[00:43:47] He never left Nickelodeon he just was doing this on

[00:43:51] the other side.

[00:43:53] Yes but yeah so like the next so all that was also

[00:43:57] going on and this is where the Brian Peck thing

[00:44:01] really becomes a problem because the third episode

[00:44:05] So the way that they ended episode 2 was very effective

[00:44:09] because it literally it cuts to a shadow of a chair

[00:44:11] and you see a shadowy figure sit down in the chair

[00:44:14] and then surprise at Strait Bell.

[00:44:17] Yeah which was interesting to me because he had so

[00:44:23] this isn't the first documentary about this.

[00:44:26] There has been other ones in the past none of them

[00:44:29] have been this in-depth but he had previously

[00:44:32] declined to talk on a few of them because he's been

[00:44:36] very hush hush about this for years.

[00:44:39] Which as we talk about it's very understandable why?

[00:44:43] Yeah he was at the time though because no one knew

[00:44:46] he was heavily criticized for not participating

[00:44:50] in all these things so I think he finally just had

[00:44:53] to get it out there.

[00:44:54] Well I don't even think it was he had to get it

[00:44:57] out there I'm assuming that if he went to talk

[00:45:00] about it he finally felt comfortable enough to talk

[00:45:03] about it but also like it's.

[00:45:05] Well that's what I meant by he just had to finally get

[00:45:08] it out there.

[00:45:09] No yeah it just kind of to me sounded like it was almost

[00:45:12] like he was pressured into it is what it kind of sounded

[00:45:15] like you said but I get what you mean we meant the same

[00:45:18] thing.

[00:45:20] He just needed like he was finally ready to get it

[00:45:23] off his chest but I think it's very commendable to

[00:45:27] you know to talk about it but also like it didn't just

[00:45:30] affect him it affected a lot of people in his life as well

[00:45:34] because one of the people you get introduced to is his

[00:45:36] father and like that poor man.

[00:45:39] Joe Bell is an interesting character in this whole thing

[00:45:42] because up until this point he wasn't very known most

[00:45:47] people know the most people knew about Joe Bell was

[00:45:50] he was Drake's manager for years and then he was

[00:45:53] infamously fired by Drake.

[00:45:56] Yeah for a number of reasons at the time it was implied

[00:46:00] it was all bad stuff but we later find out it was all

[00:46:04] bullshit.

[00:46:05] Yeah well and that's what's so heartbreaking about it

[00:46:09] so what we kind of the lead up to this before the

[00:46:12] chair scene it ends up talking about like Brian

[00:46:15] Peck and kind of like how he became one of like the

[00:46:18] worst one of the worst offenders I mean all of them

[00:46:22] are terrible but he's one of the most terrible on that

[00:46:28] show and you go in and all the interviews with Drake's

[00:46:32] father are so like they're so sad to watch like the man

[00:46:37] just looks like I don't want to say broken but like kind

[00:46:41] of like it he looked like he looked like a man full of

[00:46:44] regret.

[00:46:45] No yeah he just looked tired and sad but he also you

[00:46:50] know I'm sure this was a bit therapeutic to kind of get

[00:46:53] a lot of this office chess.

[00:46:55] But it kind of started out with like Drake's like kind

[00:46:59] of story into acting how he got into it auditioning

[00:47:03] and eventually to how he got his way to the Amanda

[00:47:06] show and which I thought was interesting apparently

[00:47:09] Amanda Bynes picked him specifically.

[00:47:13] Yeah she just really liked to work with him and

[00:47:15] she said you know I want to work which is cool like

[00:47:18] it's kind of cool unfortunate because of the situations

[00:47:22] that led him to you but so he's going they go on through

[00:47:28] show and you'll start seeing that like Joe's father like

[00:47:34] I mean Drake's father Joe sorry names.

[00:47:37] He's immediately getting red flags from Brian.

[00:47:40] Well yeah because Brian Peck was the obviously the dialogue

[00:47:44] which like why this made a dialogue coach.

[00:47:47] Well at the time they didn't know.

[00:47:50] Yeah well I'm sure people at Nickelodeon knew but the world

[00:47:54] didn't know.

[00:47:55] Yeah but yeah he was the dialogue man to the dialogue

[00:47:59] coach.

[00:48:00] Well I know I think he was the dialogue coach and that

[00:48:03] he just played pickle boy.

[00:48:04] Oh okay.

[00:48:07] But yeah like he went to do he was the dialogue coach

[00:48:10] and he immediately took a liking to Drake very uncomfortable

[00:48:15] liking.

[00:48:16] And the dad immediately saw like his dad was like the dad

[00:48:19] is weird knew and what pissed me off was like the when he

[00:48:24] questioned it like that this guy was like a little too

[00:48:27] close all the time.

[00:48:29] They're reasoning they basically were like what are you

[00:48:32] homophobic because he's gay.

[00:48:34] Yeah which that annoyed me because it's like no that's

[00:48:39] like that's just deflection.

[00:48:40] No I'm scared for my child like this is scary.

[00:48:45] And it just it just sucks you know it's like that I hate

[00:48:50] that argument because it's like it doesn't matter like

[00:48:54] race gender sexuality.

[00:48:57] If you're a creep creepy pedophile no yeah same to catch

[00:49:02] your predator there was there was man I mean there wasn't

[00:49:07] any woman on the show but they just never found they just

[00:49:10] never found any but there was men after girls there was

[00:49:13] men after boys.

[00:49:16] It's

[00:49:18] unfortunately like that doesn't when you think that low

[00:49:22] you know how in a creep can be anyone anyone can be a creep

[00:49:26] it can be a lady a lady can be a creep when you think when

[00:49:30] you think that low you're no longer human.

[00:49:34] No yeah you're just gross.

[00:49:37] But it's so they kind of go through that and then eventually

[00:49:45] it ends up getting to the breaking point where Brian Peck

[00:49:47] is now doing what he's grooming.

[00:49:51] Yeah he's grooming grooming Drake to the point where

[00:49:58] making him say like you know what you should really let

[00:50:00] your dad go also because your dad knows I'm a creep

[00:50:05] but you should really let him go for your career.

[00:50:07] But he also really he also got his Drake's mom on their side

[00:50:12] to which was really messed up.

[00:50:14] Yeah and I know there's some other background like I don't

[00:50:18] think she was necessarily well enough to be doing that just

[00:50:22] from some of her past history you know if I believe she

[00:50:28] had some drug abuse problems.

[00:50:30] I don't know if she was the right person it seems like

[00:50:33] Drake's dad was more of the grounded person should have

[00:50:37] been there but he kind of got told to get out and I'm sure

[00:50:43] I mean you saw his face he regretted it but he did what

[00:50:46] he thought was right at the time and unfortunately when

[00:50:50] that happened who ended up being the person driving

[00:50:54] Drake to set back and forward who ended up being the

[00:50:56] person bringing them to job job auditions.

[00:51:03] It was Brian one thing that I thought was really disturbing

[00:51:07] to was like Drake obviously musician was in a band by this

[00:51:11] point and he was telling the story about how he be they

[00:51:14] be on tour playing shows and like you mentioned how like

[00:51:17] Dan Snyder would show up to a show every now and then if

[00:51:20] it was close by close by which is pretty normal.

[00:51:23] That's kind of a thing that you do.

[00:51:25] Yeah supporting someone you care about.

[00:51:27] Yeah Brian Peck went to every show.

[00:51:30] Yeah and followed him.

[00:51:33] How did you see at this time like he was not very great was

[00:51:36] under 18 Drake was under 18.

[00:51:38] He was young like this is it's gross but all of this remember

[00:51:44] this is pre this is pre Drake and Josh.

[00:51:46] Yeah so this is all kind of I guess during either this

[00:51:50] was happening during the show or during kind of the break

[00:51:53] between a man show ended and Drake and Josh was going

[00:51:57] to be starting so all of this was kind of happening forever

[00:52:01] but Drake kind of goes into his trauma.

[00:52:05] He talks about like the first night where he knew like

[00:52:09] think something had changed and I don't want to kind of go

[00:52:13] into it.

[00:52:14] We're not going to go into that you know what happened.

[00:52:16] I mean he at one point describes everything that he

[00:52:20] went through as probably the worst that you can think

[00:52:23] of.

[00:52:23] So we're just going to leave that that I personally don't

[00:52:26] want to know just yet because at this point I don't want

[00:52:30] to share it because like he went through that and at this

[00:52:34] point just watch watch the special.

[00:52:37] Yeah but what kind of led Drake to finally taking a

[00:52:45] stand was he was actually at his girlfriend's house in

[00:52:50] Peck.

[00:52:52] I'm calling him what's a better name for him.

[00:52:56] See I hate the fact that I hate the fact that it I think I

[00:52:59] hate the fact that his last name is Peck because it's like

[00:53:02] you realize Josh and it's like I know I know when I saw that

[00:53:07] it was like are they related but then they were.

[00:53:11] But anyways douchebag is calling him and calling him

[00:53:16] and calling him to the point where and at this time this

[00:53:19] was not a cell phone big time yet.

[00:53:21] This was kind of people called more on the landlines

[00:53:24] and his girlfriend's mom pulls him aside and it's just like

[00:53:29] what is going on and he's like oh I'm sorry like he just

[00:53:34] does this and she's like no this is not normal a grown man

[00:53:37] should not be calling you this much what is going on and

[00:53:41] she was the catalyst for him going to court calling the

[00:53:45] police talking like basically talking about everything he

[00:53:48] went through and then them having a case.

[00:53:53] And Brian Peck being arrested.

[00:53:57] But it's just like it's sad to we made me sad.

[00:54:01] Yeah another thing I was just going to do is well do you

[00:54:04] remember like when they were developing Drake and Josh

[00:54:06] like Brian Peck was trying to get the part is Drake's dad.

[00:54:09] You yeah that's that was I'm so glad that they I'm glad

[00:54:13] they did not even try.

[00:54:15] I'm glad Dan I'm glad that whoever decided whether that

[00:54:18] be Dan Schneider or whether whoever it was that they

[00:54:21] said this is not a good idea.

[00:54:23] But what I was saying is it does make me sad that like it

[00:54:27] got it it was Drake's girlfriend's mom that had to say

[00:54:32] something it wasn't his own mom it wasn't family like it

[00:54:37] was like it was just kind of not stranger but like kind of

[00:54:42] like also like earlier in the earlier episodes like the

[00:54:45] people that weren't involved on the inside of this like

[00:54:48] they all mentioned like particularly the girls like

[00:54:51] they mentioned because obviously he wasn't into girls at

[00:54:54] all.

[00:54:55] Yeah so he was he didn't give them the vibes.

[00:55:00] They all mentioned how like he would they would go to their

[00:55:02] dialogue like practice meetings and then just one day

[00:55:04] he was gone.

[00:55:06] Yeah they didn't know and it's like because they tell you

[00:55:09] that early on and then all of a sudden we get to the

[00:55:11] third episode and it's like holy shit.

[00:55:14] Yeah and in that he was arrested which is good but not for

[00:55:21] long.

[00:55:22] No he was like he was like six months I think some like

[00:55:25] really like it really disturbs me like how light the

[00:55:30] senses sense sentences are for keep in mind.

[00:55:36] Subway Jared gets out pretty soon just keep that in mind.

[00:55:39] Ew that man should have life as far as I'm concerned.

[00:55:43] Yeah I mean this man should have had life too.

[00:55:45] Yeah they pretty much all should honestly.

[00:55:51] I'm not gonna say it.

[00:55:52] Yeah you know what I'm thinking though I'm sure you do.

[00:55:57] But yeah that's my opinion on bed of vials.

[00:56:00] I will say I will say that this scene though had like

[00:56:04] the one decent Dan Snyder moment in the entire thing

[00:56:10] which I get it because he treated he treated boys a lot

[00:56:15] different than he treated the girls.

[00:56:17] Yeah but Drake Bell had mentioned that like the first

[00:56:21] person that called them was Dan Snyder and like it's

[00:56:24] not it was very understanding and kind of made sure he

[00:56:28] was alright.

[00:56:29] Yeah but keep in mind he treated boys a lot different

[00:56:33] than he treated the girls.

[00:56:34] No yeah but it kind of closes the episode where oh I think

[00:56:42] the worst scene is when Drake's father.

[00:56:49] Did he didn't know and he's talking to Drake and then

[00:56:54] he's like oh I'm so glad this guy went to present

[00:56:57] and it didn't happen to you because I was really worried

[00:57:00] it was gonna end like he didn't know because Drake

[00:57:04] didn't tell him.

[00:57:06] But like you can tell clearly like when Drake eventually

[00:57:09] did tell him like it was me like it's something that stuck

[00:57:14] with him forever like he it kind of broke him.

[00:57:18] Yeah he was probably one of the most heartbreaking parts

[00:57:22] he was honestly he was probably the big the most real

[00:57:26] person on this thing.

[00:57:28] Yeah you're just your heart broke for him and it also

[00:57:33] it broke for Drake because like I don't imagine how he

[00:57:38] continued working continued acting performing like he was

[00:57:43] a busy guy he was in a band like it's it was a lot and I'm

[00:57:47] sure he was doing other work too.

[00:57:49] Chief in mind to this all happened before Drake and

[00:57:51] Josh.

[00:57:52] Yeah so he was young it's a lot of trauma and like

[00:57:58] it's no wonder like these child actors like they

[00:58:03] a lot of them have these breakdowns because like

[00:58:06] have like especially him is like the worst case scenario

[00:58:11] but it's traumatic.

[00:58:12] Well yeah and it also I'm pretty I'm convinced that this

[00:58:16] event is what led to his downfall.

[00:58:19] No yeah I mean it put him on his path of self-destruction

[00:58:25] and I think that kind of leads into

[00:58:29] the next case which it talks about the actual the court case

[00:58:35] and all the scumbags who supported him and wrote letters

[00:58:39] of him for a guy who was most of which have been redacted

[00:58:42] since.

[00:58:43] Yeah but like they have a lot of time to redact them.

[00:58:47] You know this guy is guilty to me I'm just like yeah

[00:58:50] they redacted it but they still wrote it and it's still

[00:58:53] gross so I don't really feel bad for them for the hate

[00:58:57] they're getting because this man was clearly a problem.

[00:59:04] And then it kind of goes on after it kind of closes with

[00:59:09] Drake and it kind of goes into more of just some of the

[00:59:15] more gross things that happened like the sexual jokes on

[00:59:20] yeah later jokes like no one scene of the yeah the

[00:59:25] the candy in the face scene yeah which like disgusting

[00:59:31] the inflatable boobs that was yeah I mean that that one I remember

[00:59:36] as a kid and I that one though is so on the nose like it wasn't

[00:59:40] even subtle.

[00:59:42] Yeah and I mean I Carly all the weird stuff like that scene

[00:59:48] with Carly a bathtub like I'm like why yeah I'm still

[00:59:53] still a I'm sure she was not I'm sure she was covered but

[00:59:57] still like that's weird.

[00:59:59] I'm amazed like Miranda Cosgrove's parents actually let

[01:00:02] that happen because her parents were always the reason

[01:00:04] why she's like one of the least fucked up people from this

[01:00:09] entire thing is because her parents were so involved with

[01:00:11] her.

[01:00:12] Yeah I mean we don't know that but like we don't know

[01:00:15] fully I mean obviously she had more involvement in her

[01:00:18] life because I mean I recommend to anyone like read

[01:00:23] Jeanette McCartney's book read it it definitely like this

[01:00:28] highlights a lot of the trauma child actors go through her

[01:00:32] mom was terrible awful.

[01:00:35] Yeah being I read the book because it's obviously she's

[01:00:40] better at explaining it than anyone.

[01:00:42] No yeah actually in the audio book is on Spotify and

[01:00:45] she actually reads the audio book so I definitely recommend

[01:00:49] it.

[01:00:51] It's heartbreaking I almost cried really listening to it

[01:00:55] but just all the weird shit I mean the so many jokes the

[01:01:00] victorious and salmon cat scene but anything with Ariana

[01:01:04] Grande was what the fuck yeah like that potato scene.

[01:01:09] The potato scene I don't even get what their that

[01:01:12] implication is there's so many things happening there.

[01:01:14] I'm like that one that one literally like just watching

[01:01:17] that because I actually hunted that clip down afterwards

[01:01:20] and just kind of watched it again and I'm still perplexed

[01:01:23] what the fuck that was supposed to be.

[01:01:25] I don't it was just supposed to be gross that's all it was

[01:01:28] supposed to be and then like the scene of her shoving

[01:01:32] her foot in her mouth like what the yeah or them pouring

[01:01:37] the water on her face to kind of simulate something

[01:01:40] not appropriate for children like what the fuck like a lot

[01:01:45] of the stuff or like I think it went into a little bit with

[01:01:48] like Dan Schneider's like Twitter account where he would ask

[01:01:51] fans to send like a feat pics to feature on the show and like

[01:01:55] that's fucking weird.

[01:01:56] Yeah, that's like something that like you don't you didn't

[01:01:58] think about as a kid and then now what the fuck and now

[01:02:02] like it really is like oh like it's so gross also the

[01:02:07] amount of feet references in these shows.

[01:02:10] Oh yeah back it's like holy shit why well you do know

[01:02:14] why it's because James Schneider is a foot guy gross but I

[01:02:19] feel like Zoe 101 I Carly victorious and then like the same

[01:02:22] cat that one's I Carly victorious.

[01:02:26] It didn't last very long those ones I think were some of the

[01:02:29] biggest offenders because I'm sure there was definitely

[01:02:32] stuff in Dragon Josh but like I don't have a drink in

[01:02:35] Josh was also

[01:02:37] Drake and Josh was two boys.

[01:02:38] No yeah and like these ones were bad really bad.

[01:02:44] All of these ones had mainly female cast.

[01:02:48] Yep, which is just and eventually and then it kind of leads

[01:02:55] into them talking about how the Me Too movement actually

[01:02:59] pushed Nickelodeon to fire Dan Schneider and then he's

[01:03:04] kind of been hidden ever since that was about 2018.

[01:03:08] You really haven't heard from him ever.

[01:03:10] 2020 was the final year of any of his productions on

[01:03:13] Nickelodeon.

[01:03:14] Yeah.

[01:03:18] And just really haven't heard from him since until actually

[01:03:21] there was a video an interview recently which to me I most

[01:03:27] softball fucking questions you'll ever see well it was a

[01:03:31] staged interview.

[01:03:32] That's what I mean they were softball questions he fake

[01:03:36] cries during it.

[01:03:37] Yeah and just the fact that like one of the guys

[01:03:40] interviewing he's who the guy who is interviewing him

[01:03:43] was a character from my Carly is also just like remember

[01:03:47] the stick guy.

[01:03:49] Not really but he would have like bagels on a stick.

[01:03:53] Pete's on a stick it was later in the series.

[01:03:55] I assume I believe you I'm just like I don't get that.

[01:03:59] But it was like why this guy why is this guy interview

[01:04:03] as he's probably one of the few that still cared.

[01:04:07] I don't know.

[01:04:08] Look at that.

[01:04:08] Yeah, I yeah it was just weird.

[01:04:11] Don't watch that interview is garbage.

[01:04:13] Watch somebody else reacting to it.

[01:04:16] Yeah, what's the deal so because it's also it's on Dan

[01:04:19] Schneider's YouTube channel which also makes it extra fake

[01:04:23] in stage to me.

[01:04:26] But there is another episode coming out we actually found

[01:04:29] us out right before we're recording but because of all

[01:04:32] just the honestly a lot of it I think is because like

[01:04:38] Drake really spoke out about his trauma.

[01:04:41] A lot but I think a lot of it also is there is a lot of key

[01:04:44] actor is an actresses in this.

[01:04:46] No, I think the other ones too like that we talked to like

[01:04:50] all the all that cast the cast from the Amanda show really

[01:04:55] all of them that spoke up.

[01:04:56] I know I don't think she was in here as Alexa Nicholas

[01:04:59] was in here because of all these people speaking up

[01:05:02] more people are feeling comfortable to tell their

[01:05:05] stories which is amazing.

[01:05:07] And so season that not season 5 episode 5 is going to be

[01:05:11] kind of continuing with those additional stories now

[01:05:14] that people are comfortable if they got in actors.

[01:05:19] That didn't speak up previously.

[01:05:21] I'm curious about that.

[01:05:23] Yeah, I that no that's what it sounds like that's

[01:05:27] what it sounds like there's people I know a Josh

[01:05:29] Peck got bullied into coming out and saying making

[01:05:32] a statement.

[01:05:33] Yeah, so we'll just have to see but

[01:05:38] to me I really wanted to talk about this because like

[01:05:43] this was a huge part of my childhood.

[01:05:45] Yeah, our childhood as well

[01:05:47] and it just really sucks like I saw this video while I

[01:05:51] saw this someone posted this picture and it made me

[01:05:54] really sad was like that like it had all these happy

[01:05:56] faces and then it kind of showed the characters

[01:05:58] and more sad faces and like these guys like went

[01:06:02] through so much trauma to make us happy.

[01:06:05] Yeah, bring us joy each day and you know what this

[01:06:09] it this entire documentary really kind of gave me

[01:06:13] it gave me a massive

[01:06:16] respect for Scott fellows.

[01:06:18] That's all I'll say.

[01:06:20] Yeah, I definitely Scott fellows not so much the cast

[01:06:23] of Nets to classify though.

[01:06:25] Yeah, they're very nice was a bit very poor very

[01:06:28] disgusting sorry it was like just the fact that

[01:06:31] they were making fun of their trauma is terrible and

[01:06:34] they got called up for it very quickly and backtracked

[01:06:37] but they shouldn't have said it to begin with disgusting.

[01:06:40] Yeah, that that podcast I think has hurt their

[01:06:42] reputations more than it's helped at this point

[01:06:44] especially because like the stuff going on there

[01:06:47] set was not norm like they all the stuff they

[01:06:51] talk about about how they're like having sex

[01:06:53] as kids and stuff and like doing sexual acts on

[01:06:56] at set is not normal and not okay.

[01:07:00] So yes, it's different like yes you weren't you didn't go

[01:07:04] through that but you still went there's like that's

[01:07:07] not normal.

[01:07:07] You shouldn't have no let's know it's gross

[01:07:12] but I don't know I just I really thought their

[01:07:14] statements were gross and just like me really made

[01:07:18] me like didn't really make me want to watch the Nets

[01:07:20] to classify anymore either cuz like you

[01:07:24] just gross on their part.

[01:07:29] But I will I will praise Scott fellas.

[01:07:32] He also made big time rush.

[01:07:34] Yeah, I was a fan of you got a background.

[01:07:37] That's why yeah, I know that's why I said Scott

[01:07:39] fellows in particular because the one episode of

[01:07:43] that podcast that I can still relisten to is the

[01:07:45] Scott fellas interview just because you realize

[01:07:47] that man is an incredibly genuine guy.

[01:07:49] Yeah, no and I I'll give him props but

[01:07:54] I mean the three cast on the podcast are

[01:07:58] in my book.

[01:07:59] Yeah, they haven't they haven't done well for their

[01:08:01] reputation as of late.

[01:08:02] No.

[01:08:04] They should probably

[01:08:06] should have they should have just stuck to

[01:08:08] reviewing the actual show.

[01:08:12] Or if they want to talk about other stuff maybe

[01:08:15] make a separate podcast don't put it under the

[01:08:18] Nets but that's not what we're here to talk about.

[01:08:21] But you know, I know like that none of these people

[01:08:24] will probably ever listen to this but I did want to

[01:08:26] say you know thank you for giving us a good childhood.

[01:08:30] You know, I'm sorry you went through that cuz

[01:08:33] it sucks like you know in like that's so shitty

[01:08:37] to know.

[01:08:38] Do you know something in hindsight though that

[01:08:40] I kind of realized now like that were adults

[01:08:42] that kind of was telling

[01:08:45] what do you remember the amount of times like

[01:08:47] we'd have like I Carly on and dad would come by

[01:08:50] and he'd watched like a few seconds to be like

[01:08:52] what the fuck is this

[01:08:55] like the amount of times he would say that.

[01:08:57] I know when that's how we react into scenes

[01:09:00] we watch back of these shows.

[01:09:02] Yes, like

[01:09:04] oh my God.

[01:09:05] It's very telling when like in hindsight you're

[01:09:08] really you realize like I think dad was right.

[01:09:10] This this there was some fucked up shit in these

[01:09:12] shows.

[01:09:13] Yeah, I mean like again we already mentioned it

[01:09:16] but it's just the amount of feet.

[01:09:18] What the fuck

[01:09:20] that's not even just the feet.

[01:09:21] It's like the weird

[01:09:25] even like non sexual stuff like there's just like stuff

[01:09:28] in these shows that's like why.

[01:09:30] Yeah, just yeah just weird.

[01:09:33] Do you remember that Nickelodeon fear factor parody?

[01:09:37] Oh my God.

[01:09:37] Yeah, cuz that was one where I don't even remember

[01:09:40] that I don't remember that but that poor kid who

[01:09:43] like went through that thing like where he on the show

[01:09:48] audibly said like it's in the episode of him going

[01:09:51] I am uncomfortable with this.

[01:09:52] I do not like this and they just continue to happily

[01:09:56] first off who thought a show that makes adults

[01:09:59] uncomfortable.

[01:10:00] They should do that to kids.

[01:10:01] I don't know.

[01:10:01] The difference is where they have to sign many waivers.

[01:10:05] Yeah, these were all kids who are just actors like on

[01:10:09] the show that they just shoved it like a lot of them

[01:10:11] like the all that the new all that cast like this.

[01:10:14] Oh, well, yeah.

[01:10:16] The second era because there's a current era that's going

[01:10:19] on now that apparently people forget about understandable.

[01:10:26] Yeah.

[01:10:28] Yeah, there's not much left to say.

[01:10:30] I mean the new episode comes out by the it's probably

[01:10:33] gonna be out by the time this episode releases but

[01:10:35] um yeah, but hopefully we can do even if it's just

[01:10:38] like a mini follow up maybe like a 30 minute.

[01:10:42] But I'd like to keep following up because it just

[01:10:46] I don't know.

[01:10:47] It just really made me sad when these came out like like

[01:10:51] I mean, I kind of knew a lot of the Dan Schneider stuff

[01:10:53] already but the stuff that Drake went through really

[01:10:56] gives me a new perspective like I will never watch the

[01:10:59] Amanda show again.

[01:11:00] I'll never be able to watch it again because I'm just

[01:11:03] like I don't know how like he how he did it.

[01:11:08] I don't know how he did through that like just it's crazy.

[01:11:16] Yeah.

[01:11:18] Yeah, that's honestly about it.

[01:11:21] Not much more to say.

[01:11:24] It's weird how like the initial thing like people said

[01:11:27] like this will ruin your child.

[01:11:29] I'm like it's already ruined and then I watched him like

[01:11:31] yeah, it did ruin it a little more but I know what

[01:11:35] we need.

[01:11:36] I'll be right back.

[01:11:36] I know what we need is a little palette cleanser.

[01:11:43] Don't blow your nose.

[01:11:47] She does this to me all the time just walked away.

[01:11:52] I have the palette cleanser.

[01:11:57] Well, God.

[01:12:00] She's got a palette cleanser.

[01:12:02] You can't see her because there won't be a video version

[01:12:05] for this one.

[01:12:07] But there will be audio and I think we need the sounds

[01:12:12] of the lizard.

[01:12:17] Can you hear anything?

[01:12:19] Why are you squeezing your cat?

[01:12:21] I'm not squeezing her.

[01:12:24] She she looks she just like slapped you across the face.

[01:12:28] No, she would never.

[01:12:33] Yeah, you didn't even hear what I said when you

[01:12:35] want when you left.

[01:12:37] What did you say?

[01:12:38] I said don't blow your nose.

[01:12:40] Don't fuck yourself.

[01:12:42] Don't play the trumpet.

[01:12:46] All right, let her let her go.

[01:12:47] She's not happy.

[01:12:49] Well, yeah, she had to listen to us talk about Dick and

[01:12:53] Schneider.

[01:12:55] I'm sorry.

[01:12:57] I know you are.

[01:12:58] See, she already forgives me.

[01:13:00] Ew.

[01:13:01] Sniff it.

[01:13:02] I hope she doesn't fart right now.

[01:13:05] But it was two minutes from the mic.

[01:13:07] Yeah, but other than that, nothing really else to cover

[01:13:12] there.

[01:13:12] This was a very sad depressing episode.

[01:13:16] Yeah, but I think it was good to talk about.

[01:13:20] Yeah, I hope the Tilly palette cleanser helped.

[01:13:23] It's one of those things where it's.

[01:13:26] I'm tired.

[01:13:27] I'm tired.

[01:13:28] Hi, tired.

[01:13:29] Nice to meet you.

[01:13:30] I'm Alex.

[01:13:30] Honestly, it's one of those.

[01:13:31] It's another key reason why you never want to know more

[01:13:36] about the things that you enjoy because sometimes.

[01:13:40] Sometimes it ruins them.

[01:13:42] Yes.

[01:13:44] Yes, it does.

[01:13:47] That is life.

[01:13:48] Yeah, it's constantly ruined.

[01:13:50] So I don't look too deep into the creators of media.

[01:13:54] Sometimes you just don't want to know.

[01:13:56] Yeah.

[01:13:58] Um, but yeah.

[01:14:00] So other than that, I just wanted to make a little announcement

[01:14:05] at the end of this episode.

[01:14:06] Oh, what are you announcing?

[01:14:08] Is the podcast over?

[01:14:09] No, I wanted to talk because people who will follow this

[01:14:16] feed may have noticed Geek Addicts is no longer appearing

[01:14:20] in the GNC feed.

[01:14:22] That is because it now has its own dedicated feed where

[01:14:26] all podcasts from episode 20 on will be releasing.

[01:14:30] So the GNC feed is now going to be solely just gaming

[01:14:34] collecting again and if any fans of Geek Addicts would like

[01:14:38] to follow that show, it now has its own dedicated feed.

[01:14:41] You can find all the links in our link tree.

[01:14:44] Just wanted to just wanted to kind of shout that out.

[01:14:47] It's going to probably take a little bit to get for them

[01:14:49] to kind of like fully separate into their own things.

[01:14:52] But yeah, that was a project I did this week.

[01:14:56] Oh, I see.

[01:14:59] But yeah, so once again, I'm going to just insert your burp

[01:15:07] sound effect whenever you interrupt me.

[01:15:15] But yeah, anyways, keep doing it and I'm just going to leave

[01:15:18] it in anyways guys once again.

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[01:15:51] Alex does her weird water bottle nonsense and yeah,

[01:15:56] that's about it.

[01:15:57] And once again guys, thank you for joining us

[01:16:00] and we will see you all later.

[01:16:03] Ha, I got you.

[01:16:08] Okay, macho man.