Will we Love or Hate GTA6? All Aboard the Hype Train!

[00:00:10] Welcome everyone to another episode of the Friday Night Gamecast, a dedicated video game

[00:00:36] podcast where two best friends come together to celebrate games and bring you industry

[00:00:41] news, game impressions, reviews and more. I'm your host Nick and I'm joined as always by

[00:00:45] the one and only Will. What's going on Will? Hey, you know what I mean? Just having a

[00:00:50] good time, ready to talk about some games. It is a beautiful Sunday. So it's a beautiful

[00:00:54] Sunday. It's a beautiful Sunday and we got, we got a little bit of margaritas going

[00:00:58] on here. We got some sippy, a little adult beverages. Well, this is episode 52 of the

[00:01:05] Friday Night Gamecast folks and we're really excited to talk about our wonderful topic

[00:01:08] today. Today we're going to be talking about our expectations for GTA 6. I'm really excited

[00:01:14] to get into this because Will is just a rock star Stan and I'm really curious to

[00:01:18] hear about what his thoughts are, particularly because of his history in the setting for

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[00:02:30] everyone's enjoyment. Now, it's the part that everyone's been waiting for. It's

[00:02:36] the game updates for Nick and Will for this week. There's been a lot of gaming

[00:02:41] going on recently. Well, I'd like to start with you. What you been up to?

[00:02:44] So I've been just rocking along with Dragon's Dogma 2. That game has a complete

[00:02:48] choke hold on me. Go to work. Still. Still. Dragon's Dogma. I know, I know.

[00:02:55] It's crazy. It's almost like it's game of the year or something. Wild. Wild.

[00:02:59] Can't say that. It has plenty of issues on its own, but it's just a crazy

[00:03:04] game. It's the kind of thing where going through and the idea and the

[00:03:08] aspect of exploration in that game, you know, the process I should say

[00:03:12] rather is going through and exploring from getting to A to B, A to Z, A to

[00:03:16] wherever you need to get to as far as how the side quests or random things in

[00:03:21] the world that pull you to it. I mean, that just really just makes the game.

[00:03:24] So it's a complete blast. I get on there and it reminds me of 2011 Skyrim.

[00:03:30] I think it was 2011 when Skyrim came out, right? I think so more around there.

[00:03:32] Yeah. It was like, I came out 11, 11, 11. I'm pretty sure. But yeah,

[00:03:36] it reminds me of Skyrim. You sit there and you're like, okay, I'm going

[00:03:38] to sit down and I'm going to go do this quest. And then three hours

[00:03:41] later you've gone on three mini quests and gone in eight dungeons and

[00:03:45] fought a bunch of random monsters. And you're like, I am on the other side

[00:03:48] of the map now. So that's exactly what happens. I haven't played it enough

[00:03:52] to really have a good feeling of what that open world feels like.

[00:03:55] I've gone from like one town to the other. And then I ended up,

[00:03:58] I did the first story mission and ended up in the main, one of the

[00:04:00] main cities for the game. Something I was curious about and I was

[00:04:04] thinking about in the shower this morning while I was getting ready

[00:04:06] for my day was thinking about our experience with Breath of the Wild

[00:04:10] and Tears of the Kingdom, excuse me, because we both play each,

[00:04:13] but yeah, Tears of the Kingdom. Tears. And how they have this massive

[00:04:18] expansive open world, but it's like, it's this large world that seemingly

[00:04:23] on its surface doesn't have a lot going on. But when you're sitting

[00:04:27] there on the ground and you're running across the surface of the

[00:04:30] landscape as Link, every single little pocket, whether it's a cave

[00:04:34] or whether it's a little river has something going on. Or if there

[00:04:37] are bokoblins that are marching around or doing their patrols,

[00:04:40] there's always something going on in that world, which is really cool.

[00:04:44] And I'm assuming the same is true for Baller's Gate.

[00:04:47] I almost said Baller's Gate.

[00:04:48] Yeah, something's on the Dragon's Dogma.

[00:04:50] Yeah, exactly. It's exactly the same deal.

[00:04:52] So you'll come across random pockets of monsters you need to fight,

[00:04:55] caves to go explore or sometimes just somebody who needs your help.

[00:04:58] So that's a very common thing is just while yes, you're in the

[00:05:02] wilderness, the woods, it doesn't mean it's completely empty.

[00:05:05] And there's major cities, like smaller towns.

[00:05:10] But for the most part, it's really just getting through the kind of wilderness

[00:05:13] where, yes, 90 percent of the things out there trying to kill you.

[00:05:17] Gotcha. Now, for obviously, it's like a lot of it is, I assume, combat.

[00:05:22] But do you feel like there's enough variety of the different kinds

[00:05:25] of things that you're doing? The open world, like randomized events?

[00:05:28] Whereas because I've seen I remember seeing it in the gameplay

[00:05:30] previews where there's a troll and he like is falling backwards

[00:05:33] and then falls down between a crevice and he becomes a bridge

[00:05:37] that you go across while you're, you know, messing him up

[00:05:39] with your sword or your bow and whatnot.

[00:05:41] Is there just a lot of that? I mean, no, not really.

[00:05:44] OK, it's just all about the action.

[00:05:45] And then as far as when you're actually fighting enemies,

[00:05:48] if you get bored, as far as what you're doing or you've hit a wall,

[00:05:52] maybe you've maxed out your vocation.

[00:05:53] That's when they have, I think it's maybe eight or more

[00:05:55] different vocations for you to switch between.

[00:05:57] So that's where you would get your kind of refreshing

[00:06:01] nature of the combat from is like, OK, I played as a sword

[00:06:04] and board fighter for the last 30 hours.

[00:06:07] Yeah. Like let me switch it up to a mage or let me change to an archer.

[00:06:11] Maybe a magic archer.

[00:06:13] Maybe I'll be a wayfarer.

[00:06:15] Sorry, warfare.

[00:06:16] Maybe I'll be a mystic spear hand.

[00:06:19] So there's just plenty of different ways for you to approach the game.

[00:06:22] Yeah. And yes, mostly just comes down to

[00:06:25] when you're dealing with an enemy's combat is your main focus.

[00:06:27] So this is not a game where you can go talk to a goblin

[00:06:30] and allow him to like, hey, I can convince you with my charisma

[00:06:34] to let me pass. OK, if you come across a bad guy in the game,

[00:06:37] you're fighting them. You can't roll for persuasion.

[00:06:38] Exactly. Gotcha.

[00:06:42] In terms of what you were trying to do,

[00:06:44] because we just spent a good minute looking at your trophy list.

[00:06:47] Are you going to go for a dragon's dog with two plat?

[00:06:49] Yeah, because you love the card. It doesn't look hard.

[00:06:51] OK, OK. There's not going to be like a complete is the trophy achievements.

[00:06:57] Is it something involved where it's like, you know,

[00:06:58] reach the max level for every class type situation?

[00:07:01] I don't think there is.

[00:07:03] I think there's some that are, for example,

[00:07:05] like getting the master teaching for every vocation,

[00:07:08] which involves talking to the people who are like the masters of the locations

[00:07:12] and being nice to them, giving them flowers.

[00:07:14] Got it. So that's probably the hardest thing is going and doing that.

[00:07:16] But aside from that, it just standard play through the game,

[00:07:20] do a bunch of side things.

[00:07:21] And then as the way I play,

[00:07:23] I've already unlocked a couple of things

[00:07:25] that people would probably have to grind to do.

[00:07:27] So like find 50 locations.

[00:07:29] Yeah, that's going to require you to go off the beaten path

[00:07:31] and find different caves and things.

[00:07:32] And I just unlocked that the other day. Nice.

[00:07:34] OK, there's no one like finding secret tokens,

[00:07:36] which are just tokens that are hidden out in the world

[00:07:38] that you can trade in to the vocation master and get certain items.

[00:07:42] And that's something that I got.

[00:07:43] You know, I think you all have to do 80 and I have 140 something at this point.

[00:07:47] So it's just me exploring and how I play the game naturally.

[00:07:51] It's going to probably put me pretty close to that hundred already.

[00:07:54] I see. That's awesome.

[00:07:55] Yeah, I haven't been doing too much.

[00:07:58] We're kind of in the same boat, just grinding on the same games right now.

[00:08:01] And I'm going to be surely a step behind you.

[00:08:03] I know. Yeah, I know.

[00:08:05] I know. Dave recently reached out to us on Discord.

[00:08:08] I was like, Nick, have you started yet?

[00:08:10] And I was like, I'm almost done.

[00:08:12] I'm almost done.

[00:08:12] I'm in Chapter 12 of I'm almost at the end of Chapter 12 of rebirth.

[00:08:18] And shit is getting crazy.

[00:08:20] The story is getting just continuously bonkers.

[00:08:22] But oh, my God, Final Fantasy getting bonkers.

[00:08:25] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:08:26] And I had a good session where I had joined a party chat

[00:08:29] with a couple of our mutual friends.

[00:08:30] We were just chatting and I had skipped over a couple of summon quests

[00:08:35] or some summon entities where you have to go in the open world

[00:08:39] and find three crystals and unlock them and then fight them in Chadley's

[00:08:43] training young module.

[00:08:46] Yeah, young Chadley on the track.

[00:08:47] He can't fucking stand up.

[00:08:48] I can't stand up. He's so annoying.

[00:08:52] And then he created another like version of himself,

[00:08:54] which is in somehow possibly more annoying when you're going out.

[00:08:58] I don't think it was. It's like an AI thing.

[00:09:00] Yeah, it's it's ridiculous.

[00:09:02] But yeah, she's like you go up to an open world enemy

[00:09:04] and tell them she's like, oh, this enemy does this.

[00:09:07] And he's like and he literally will chime in and be like,

[00:09:09] can you shut up for a little bit?

[00:09:11] And like turns her off.

[00:09:13] Oh, he's like, no, I don't think that's

[00:09:17] I don't think that's quite right because he just created a new version.

[00:09:20] It's just a female.

[00:09:22] OK, like AI entities that he created.

[00:09:25] So he's a he's a VTuber.

[00:09:27] Yeah, they them AI must respect the Chadley.

[00:09:30] Leslie, yeah, big respect, big respect to the boy.

[00:09:32] Anyway, rebirth is crazy.

[00:09:33] But I went back in and I got Kujata, I believe,

[00:09:37] which is this big lion demon summon that I haven't ever seen

[00:09:41] in any of the Final Fantasy games I've played before.

[00:09:42] It's just this massive.

[00:09:44] It looks very similar to these

[00:09:47] like lion esque demon enemies that had horns with like lightning bolt powers

[00:09:53] at the end of Final Fantasy 16.

[00:09:55] They were like legendary beasts that you fought

[00:09:57] that were guarding certain sections of the game.

[00:09:59] It looked very similar to that.

[00:10:01] So maybe this is just a common enemy type,

[00:10:03] but this one just so happens to be a good summons that you can get.

[00:10:06] I got that one.

[00:10:07] And then I got Alexander. Alexander is really cool.

[00:10:10] It's just a giant robot

[00:10:12] that apparently brings the end of the world whenever from its

[00:10:16] from its source mythology, according to the game.

[00:10:18] It's just this massive robot that ends civilization.

[00:10:21] So that's a summons that I got.

[00:10:23] And then I realized that I skipped over Bahamut Arisen.

[00:10:29] And this is a different Bahamut.

[00:10:30] It's upgraded Bahamut.

[00:10:31] Yeah, it's a Bahamut with like fire powers.

[00:10:34] But he also has like giga blast or giga giga ray.

[00:10:38] I can't remember.

[00:10:38] I was like, does Bahamut not normally have fire powers?

[00:10:40] Am I tripping? He's like electric.

[00:10:42] He's like an electric dragon type.

[00:10:44] I always thought the old man had electric powers.

[00:10:47] Odin.

[00:10:49] I don't know. It's just magic.

[00:10:51] It's just magic.

[00:10:51] At the end of the day.

[00:10:52] It's all just like stupid fucking particle effect.

[00:10:55] It's just mana.

[00:10:56] Yeah. Odin is always purple and he does have magic powers.

[00:11:00] And I did fight Odin and Odin has proven so far

[00:11:03] to be the hardest summons that I have fought

[00:11:05] because he has this special attack called Zenketsu, if I can't believe it.

[00:11:09] I'm probably mispronouncing that, but it's some Zen-tan-ket-su

[00:11:12] or something like that.

[00:11:13] And what happens is, is that you're in the module with him

[00:11:16] and you're fighting.

[00:11:17] And if he gets more than three hits on you,

[00:11:21] he has a warning attack called like Gjallarhorn's blessing

[00:11:26] or Gjallarhorn's war call or something like that,

[00:11:29] which is signaling that if you get hit one more time,

[00:11:31] he's going to use the Zen-tan-ket-su, which is an auto kill.

[00:11:34] And if he uses that and he auto kills you

[00:11:37] and if you don't have revival earrings

[00:11:39] and if you don't have Phoenix already deployed, then you're done.

[00:11:42] You have to pre-deploy your Phoenix down?

[00:11:44] You can't just use it after the fact?

[00:11:45] Yeah.

[00:11:46] So it's like...

[00:11:47] Well, not Phoenix down, but the Phoenix...

[00:11:50] What am I thinking? Yeah, Phoenix summon.

[00:11:52] There's actual Phoenix...

[00:11:53] Oh, and the summon will revive you if you get down.

[00:11:55] Yeah, Phoenix is basically just like one of his powers.

[00:11:57] He does like a fire blast power,

[00:11:59] but his other two powers are healing and revival.

[00:12:03] So he can revive allies.

[00:12:04] And if he is out and you do a party wipe,

[00:12:07] then he'll revive everybody if he's actively deployed.

[00:12:10] But I didn't really bother with that.

[00:12:12] I just got good with Odin. I just learned how to parry him.

[00:12:15] I talked to Peace about it a little bit,

[00:12:16] and he was like, yeah, you just dodge, just parry.

[00:12:18] Apparently... Just do the light work.

[00:12:19] Well, Yuffie is the character that you really have to use to fight Odin

[00:12:23] because she has this really cool combat design

[00:12:26] where she'll throw her sword at Odin

[00:12:29] and then she can like dash back

[00:12:31] and she has little materia circles, little kind of...

[00:12:34] They have Kandii written on them. It's very, very interesting.

[00:12:36] But she's doing like ninjutsu

[00:12:39] and she's basically just using, like throwing enemy spells at the enemy

[00:12:44] while her knife is slicing the enemy in the air.

[00:12:48] And then she can either...

[00:12:49] She warps to the knife whenever you're ready

[00:12:51] to engage in actual melee combat.

[00:12:53] So she's really good with ranged attacks.

[00:12:56] While at the same time, you can build up your ATB gauge

[00:12:59] while you're fighting with her

[00:13:00] and eventually choose other ranged ATB blasts.

[00:13:03] So she's perfect for that fight.

[00:13:05] Yeah, Peace really came in clutch with that recommendation.

[00:13:07] So I used her and I basically just got used to his different...

[00:13:10] He has multiple phases.

[00:13:12] So he's been the hardest so far.

[00:13:13] I don't know if there's going to be another summons after him.

[00:13:15] I imagine there probably will be.

[00:13:16] I haven't found Ramu yet, but I imagine Ramu is probably a little later.

[00:13:21] So yeah, there's a few, but it's been really, really fun.

[00:13:24] I'm having a good time in terms of just the combat and the fighting.

[00:13:28] And you know, you play in Final Fantasy Rebirth,

[00:13:31] you're going to be doing a lot of it because it gets to the point

[00:13:33] and they're doing the same thing now that they were doing

[00:13:36] kind of towards the end of Final Fantasy VII Remake,

[00:13:39] where it's just like you do a little bit of stuff,

[00:13:40] you do a little bit of stuff and then boss fight, boss fight,

[00:13:42] boss fight back to back to back.

[00:13:44] So it's good. It's fine.

[00:13:46] I'm just more than ready for it to be over.

[00:13:48] And I haven't...

[00:13:49] I've just been so busy with IRL stuff,

[00:13:51] I haven't had enough time to just like dedicate hours and hours

[00:13:55] of gameplay.

[00:13:55] Did you finish it off? Yeah.

[00:13:56] But you have had some time to play another game.

[00:13:59] I have.

[00:13:59] That I would love to hear you talk to the people about.

[00:14:03] Oh, I'm getting canceled this fuck.

[00:14:05] Friday night, cancel cast.

[00:14:07] You're not going to get canceled.

[00:14:08] OK, no, I know it's...

[00:14:11] I'm not really bothered by it because I really wanted to review

[00:14:13] this game because there is a lot of toxicity surrounding it.

[00:14:15] However, we both played the demo and really enjoyed it.

[00:14:17] And that is Stellar Blade.

[00:14:19] Yup.

[00:14:20] Really, really enjoying my time with the game.

[00:14:22] And you and I spent a good amount of time this morning

[00:14:24] just hanging out, playing Stellar Blade together.

[00:14:26] It is fun.

[00:14:28] It is a fun combat system.

[00:14:30] Everything that you would expect in terms of like,

[00:14:33] it is very, very parry heavy.

[00:14:35] So all of the comparisons that are making compared to Bayonetta

[00:14:39] or Sekiro or Nier, yes, those are all very valid and true.

[00:14:43] It is an action game at its core.

[00:14:47] But I would say that her skill tree is very, very interesting.

[00:14:50] The different movesets and the way that all of her movesets

[00:14:53] complement the beta gear like or the beta charge that you have.

[00:14:58] And all of the beta moves are very, very cool.

[00:14:59] Super flashy.

[00:15:00] They are very flashy looking.

[00:15:02] And it is just like, I love the stylized method of combat

[00:15:06] they have in there.

[00:15:07] I am not like the biggest thing that I am kind of down on

[00:15:09] and I think you might have noticed this as we were playing

[00:15:11] because there was like one point where I was playing the game

[00:15:13] and I was like confused where to go.

[00:15:15] The level design is intricate and they do the thing

[00:15:18] where they hide little bits and pieces everywhere on the map.

[00:15:20] And you can use the center button.

[00:15:22] You can use basically what is it?

[00:15:23] The track pad. You press down on it

[00:15:25] and you pulse the scan through the area to find where things are.

[00:15:29] But it is not as intuitive where you have to go to do certain stuff.

[00:15:33] And a lot of it is very mundane.

[00:15:35] Go to the place, collect the key cards, move the lift

[00:15:40] or like you collect this one thing to open up one door.

[00:15:43] It is like all very kind of monotonous in terms of like

[00:15:47] actively controlling or going throughout the field.

[00:15:49] There is not a lot of like incentivization as a player

[00:15:53] to go and get certain things,

[00:15:55] unless it involves opening up a chest or getting more gear.

[00:16:00] And gear is not necessarily like littered throughout this map.

[00:16:03] It's things that I think you acquire slowly.

[00:16:05] But yeah, as we were playing it, kind of got through it

[00:16:08] and was learning a little bit more through the skill tree,

[00:16:11] opening it up a little bit more.

[00:16:12] And eventually it's pretty cool because when we just signed off,

[00:16:15] you learned that you get a fucking gun in this game, which is great.

[00:16:18] The useless drone that's been following you the whole time.

[00:16:20] Yeah, like now I'm a gun.

[00:16:21] Yeah, yeah, it's really, really cool.

[00:16:23] In terms of, you know, the stuff that we do have to talk about,

[00:16:27] which is just the, you know, male gazey aspect of this title.

[00:16:33] I think it's like there. It is present.

[00:16:35] It's not distracting, though.

[00:16:36] You kind of just tune it out after a while when you're playing it.

[00:16:39] And again, like a it's hard because we are men and it does.

[00:16:43] And like we're not impacted by something like this,

[00:16:46] where it's, you know, kind of unfair representations of women in games.

[00:16:52] I think it's kind of it's been an issue for a while

[00:16:54] and it's been less of an issue recently.

[00:16:56] And of course, there's this all kinds of talk discourse online about it.

[00:17:00] I don't think that Stuller Blade really should be the, you know,

[00:17:04] like the the heralding example of like, yeah, the the I don't think

[00:17:09] I think it's unfair for everybody to dunk on this game

[00:17:11] when there are games that are equally as kind of egregious with male gazey.

[00:17:15] I mean, you never heard anybody talk about Mass Effect 2 until,

[00:17:19] you know, later on in the very talk about Miranda's.

[00:17:22] Were they talking about it when it came out?

[00:17:24] Yeah, because when you see her, that's like the very shot of her ass.

[00:17:27] But yeah, yeah.

[00:17:28] So people are like, but then, of course, there's things outside of it.

[00:17:31] And it also helps that, you know, technically Miranda is not

[00:17:33] the main character, so it's not that constant focus. Right.

[00:17:36] But no, I agree with you 100 percent.

[00:17:37] It's the thing where you generally do tune it out for a while,

[00:17:40] you know, for better or for worse when it comes to that.

[00:17:43] But then every once in a while, like what if we had that new outfit

[00:17:46] that was a preorder bonus that it made it so that any time she moved, right.

[00:17:50] It's like the jiggle physics just kind of go crazy and it's like, hmm.

[00:17:54] It's a little egregious.

[00:17:55] That's the main thing is that quite a bit a bit of is unnecessary.

[00:17:58] But you can realistically say that about what 80 percent of games

[00:18:02] have the stuff that's in it, whether it be violence or sexual based

[00:18:05] is like unnecessary.

[00:18:06] So yeah. Well, the thing that the thing that bothers me

[00:18:08] is that not all games are held to the same status.

[00:18:11] Like people love Nier Automata and Nier Automata is I don't know

[00:18:15] if it's equal. I haven't finished it.

[00:18:16] I haven't like completed the game.

[00:18:18] I played a good bit of it, but I haven't finished it.

[00:18:20] But from what I've seen, it seems like it's equally as horny.

[00:18:24] It's just that the emphasis is not on the sexualization

[00:18:27] of the robot women in the game, whereas this kind of seems

[00:18:30] like it is a little bit more front and center.

[00:18:31] I did look on see some people posting online

[00:18:34] and apparently like the lead character designer artist is basically just

[00:18:38] he is a guy who draws, you know, sexualized women.

[00:18:43] Like that's his specialty. That's what he does.

[00:18:46] And then, of course, like I think I saw Gene Park, of course.

[00:18:50] He played the I think it's what is it like?

[00:18:53] Nikkei it's it's Nikkei Fires of Liberation or some shit like that.

[00:18:57] I don't know. That's that's Armour Corps six is what I'm thinking of.

[00:19:00] But yeah, it's one of those where it's like a third person cover shooter.

[00:19:04] And it's like kind of a mobile game where

[00:19:09] third person shooter and basically the girls just lean over

[00:19:12] the barriers and shoot and there's jiggle physics on the butts.

[00:19:15] So it's just like all very kind of.

[00:19:19] Here's what I'll say.

[00:19:21] Here's what I'll say.

[00:19:22] And I said this applies earlier.

[00:19:23] I am not going to defend Korea.

[00:19:25] I'm not defending Korea and I'm not defending Japan.

[00:19:28] OK, like this is that's not really where we sit.

[00:19:31] I just think that like there is a space where we can enjoy these games

[00:19:35] for what they are without kind of getting too upset about

[00:19:41] the sexualized nature of it.

[00:19:43] But while at the same time, recognizing it and being like, OK,

[00:19:46] maybe a little less, less can you have a jiggle physics slider

[00:19:49] or something like that?

[00:19:50] Can we can we can we cover up our characters a little bit more?

[00:19:54] I don't know when this light outside.

[00:19:56] I want to play this game during the day.

[00:19:57] Yeah. Shout out to all the all the insoles out there,

[00:20:01] because this is the close out he says this is the closest

[00:20:04] they're ever going to get. And I'm very sad for them.

[00:20:06] And they're probably the same people who are losing their fucking minds

[00:20:09] on Twitter and giving me a massive headache over this game,

[00:20:12] because it's just like I the toxic discourse is ridiculous.

[00:20:15] Also, I have to we have to bring it up because of the hard are thing.

[00:20:19] We have to.

[00:20:21] I mean, I feel like we should.

[00:20:22] I feel like we should bring it up. I mean,

[00:20:25] I am on the camp, I'm on the side of giving them

[00:20:28] the benefit of the doubt of them, not necessarily like it being like.

[00:20:32] I don't know if obviously the Korean creators

[00:20:36] have a deep enough understanding of English to understand

[00:20:40] like the translation of what it's going to be with.

[00:20:42] Like maybe it was like Korean.

[00:20:45] It was like Korean lettering on the.

[00:20:49] What is it? The design that was on the wall

[00:20:52] until it was actual spray paint for the right, the actual spray paint.

[00:20:56] Like what if it was just like Korean and like meant

[00:20:59] or pronounced something completely different than they had like our stop

[00:21:03] next to the actual like resting point?

[00:21:05] I think it was just it was just one of those unfortunate things

[00:21:08] because people mentioned that the hard same kind of spray is like all over.

[00:21:11] It's everywhere. Yeah, I mean, it's they didn't.

[00:21:13] We didn't see it.

[00:21:14] Yeah, they didn't have a specific graffiti in a specific place.

[00:21:16] It was just unfortunate placement.

[00:21:19] But still, hey, I think you mentioned it before, too.

[00:21:23] It's one of those things where just like even if they didn't know

[00:21:26] and really, it's I guess ultimately not super, super bad.

[00:21:29] But yeah, it really should have been something that Sony,

[00:21:32] whoever else is watching this, you know, come to the American side

[00:21:35] and just be like, oh, let's run through and you say, hmm,

[00:21:38] maybe that shouldn't be there.

[00:21:39] But it also seems like it's so not necessarily that's out of the way,

[00:21:42] but it's so like light just kind of pasted there.

[00:21:44] They probably ran right by it.

[00:21:45] Didn't even notice it. Right.

[00:21:46] And that's the thing, too, is that like something that I went on

[00:21:49] a little bit of a deep dive on because we were talking about

[00:21:52] in the group chat a little bit and we were of course discourse was just

[00:21:55] there was a conflagration on Twitter of people just losing their fucking minds

[00:21:58] over that one image.

[00:22:00] And of course, there were content creators that were trying to capitalize

[00:22:02] on that and being the first ones out there to let everybody know

[00:22:05] about the racist seller blade game.

[00:22:07] But I think that it was more so of I wanted to know it.

[00:22:12] Like what is the division point of being?

[00:22:14] Of course, I'm not necessarily going to be one to hold

[00:22:17] the Korean developers up to the same standard, but I will not.

[00:22:21] Avoid holding PlayStation to a level of accountability

[00:22:25] to make sure that there are certain level of sensitivity like

[00:22:28] guidelines that are put in place before they certify a game

[00:22:31] to be put on their storefront. Right.

[00:22:33] So, of course, I don't know what that certification process looks like.

[00:22:37] Does it look like something play through the game and making sure

[00:22:39] that there isn't stuff out there?

[00:22:41] I don't know. But like I don't I wouldn't necessarily be

[00:22:44] in the camp of saying that this is just like a dog whistle

[00:22:46] for Nazis to come in and enjoy the game or something like that.

[00:22:48] I just I I just don't buy it.

[00:22:51] I just don't think anything really is that insidious,

[00:22:53] especially in the games industry.

[00:22:56] So there's that anyway.

[00:22:58] But the more damning thing about this game than anything else

[00:23:00] is that it's like the characters are not fucking interesting.

[00:23:05] Very accurate.

[00:23:06] The characters just like the writing.

[00:23:08] The gameplay is fun because you said it perfectly.

[00:23:11] It's pulling you through.

[00:23:12] Yeah, you said it perfectly when comparing this game to Bayonetta

[00:23:15] and like Devil May Cry.

[00:23:17] Well, that is just like the craziness is missing.

[00:23:19] That's the thing about the weirdness.

[00:23:21] Yeah, like Bayonetta, Devil May Cry, etc.

[00:23:23] When you're playing those games, it's like the action is very fun

[00:23:25] and it's awesome.

[00:23:26] And the stories are actually very weird.

[00:23:28] And like characters are over the top and they're you know,

[00:23:32] they're characters as they literally are.

[00:23:34] They're not just kind of blending into the background

[00:23:36] like, you know, your folks, Adam from Stella Blade.

[00:23:38] And I think what Lily we just unlocked there like in that first chapter.

[00:23:42] Yep.

[00:23:43] So that's what that game for me is missing.

[00:23:45] Yes, you're playing a robot cyborg android woman.

[00:23:49] I think cyborg is probably the better term.

[00:23:50] I feel like cyborgs.

[00:23:51] Cyborg woman who's fighting natibas,

[00:23:54] which are just like monstrous things.

[00:23:55] I don't even know if they've really been explained at this point in the game.

[00:23:57] Exhumans, I'm assuming.

[00:23:58] Mutated humans.

[00:24:00] That's not that weird compared to something like,

[00:24:02] oh, I'm a half demon, half human hybrid

[00:24:05] fighting my brother in endless battles

[00:24:08] or I'm a sexy librarian witch woman that tortures angels for fun.

[00:24:14] Yeah.

[00:24:15] You need that level of weirdness

[00:24:16] and you need your characters to pop off of the screen

[00:24:19] to make it interesting in those between the action moments.

[00:24:21] And right now, Stella Blade is like,

[00:24:23] characters are talking and I'm just like, cool.

[00:24:25] I can't wait to attack somebody.

[00:24:27] Yeah.

[00:24:28] I can't wait to shoot my gun some more or move my sword some more.

[00:24:31] That's really what it was.

[00:24:32] It's like for me, this is probably bad,

[00:24:35] but like, and I'm probably maybe not necessarily enjoying the game

[00:24:38] the way it was intended to enjoy.

[00:24:40] But I just was looking forward to the boss fights

[00:24:42] because the boss fights are so fun when you're in the boss fights themselves.

[00:24:46] But it's just like getting through the grind of like finding the keys

[00:24:49] to get across the level is just not as fun to me.

[00:24:52] So there's that.

[00:24:53] That's Stella Blade, of course.

[00:24:54] This is based on just playing, completing the first chapter.

[00:24:57] There's the mini review for Stella Blade.

[00:24:59] It's a mini review.

[00:25:00] It's 100% a mini review of the game.

[00:25:02] But yeah, I'd recommend if you're interested in a game like that,

[00:25:05] something like Sekiro, something like Nier, Devil May Cry,

[00:25:08] please go and check it out.

[00:25:09] Try the demo at the very least and see if the demo works for you.

[00:25:13] And if the demo is good, maybe try and jump into the game at some point.

[00:25:17] Maybe if there's a sale too, you can jump into that.

[00:25:20] That, I think, if I'm not mistaken, is going to do it for our game updates

[00:25:24] for the week, William.

[00:25:25] Let's go ahead and take a quick break.

[00:25:27] And then we're going to transition into our expectations for Grand Theft Auto 6.

[00:25:31] Let's do it.

[00:25:53] So we're in here for the main topic of the show.

[00:25:57] I wanted to talk about Grand Theft Auto 6 because it's going to be really important.

[00:26:00] And hopefully, you know, get a little bit of SEO boost.

[00:26:02] You know what I mean?

[00:26:03] You know, just a little bit of light work.

[00:26:05] A little bit of light work.

[00:26:06] Yeah, I wanted to talk about this game because you are a huge GTA fan.

[00:26:10] You love GTA. How many GTAs have you played?

[00:26:13] I think everyone except for the ones on.

[00:26:16] Yeah, I think everyone except for the original two, like the first two.

[00:26:21] Yeah. The top.

[00:26:22] But were they on?

[00:26:24] Like pretty much PC. Oh, interesting.

[00:26:25] OK, because they were like based in London.

[00:26:27] Oh, I didn't know that.

[00:26:29] Yeah. And then I haven't played any of the handhills,

[00:26:32] like Chinatown Wars and Liberty City Stories, things like that.

[00:26:36] But I played everything else as main line, including some of the DLCs for like four.

[00:26:40] Gotcha. Yeah.

[00:26:42] And I haven't like beaten San Andreas because that game was huge when it first came out.

[00:26:44] But I played pretty much everything between three and up to five.

[00:26:48] Do you have a favorite so far?

[00:26:50] Oh, that's difficult.

[00:26:51] That's like kind of picking kids

[00:26:55] because I mean, I play them all in like very different phases of my life.

[00:26:58] Yeah. I mean, five is definitely just the best as far as like technically

[00:27:01] and everything looking really good, everything playing really well.

[00:27:04] I feel like it has a solid mix of everything to that point.

[00:27:08] Like when four first came out, for example, people hated the car physics

[00:27:11] because four really started the euphoria

[00:27:17] animations and the euphoria kind of rigging for the characters

[00:27:20] in Rockstar where they started doing that.

[00:27:22] OK, at least for the GTA games.

[00:27:24] I'm trying to recall as far as like the time that the first red did came out.

[00:27:29] But still with GTA, that was, you know, when the character falls over,

[00:27:32] it's like they kind of slump and move around.

[00:27:34] It wasn't just straight up ragdoll physics, but they're their skeletons

[00:27:37] and things try to do stuff.

[00:27:38] Characters would bump into things and try to up right themselves

[00:27:41] or get hit by a car and kind of roll off, you know, quote unquote accurately.

[00:27:45] You know, I have seen very many people get hit by cars.

[00:27:47] But yeah, to the degree you look at it, you say, hey, that's realistic.

[00:27:51] That's kind of where that euphoria engine was coming from,

[00:27:53] mixing with the rage engine, that Rockstar engine that they have. Yeah.

[00:27:57] But yeah, four is great.

[00:27:59] People had issues with the driving.

[00:28:01] I love five just all around, so it's probably my favorite.

[00:28:04] But if I have to say which one would I maybe go back and replay

[00:28:07] or which one do I have is like my kind of quote unquote true favorite,

[00:28:10] it's probably going to be Vice City just because of the amount of time

[00:28:12] that I put into that game.

[00:28:14] Something that me and a friend would just boot up

[00:28:17] and play through some of the story and do stuff.

[00:28:19] But we'd really just, you know, you do your classic GTA rampage

[00:28:22] until you die and then you hand off the controller.

[00:28:24] The controller every year.

[00:28:25] Classic rampage until you die.

[00:28:26] So that's a game that I just five stars real quick.

[00:28:28] Yeah. It'll Tommy Vercetti.

[00:28:30] So that was a good time.

[00:28:31] I think I really liked it, which is why I'm really excited for six.

[00:28:33] Taking it back to a place that a familiar place.

[00:28:38] I think you think they're going to call it Vice City.

[00:28:39] Yeah, they already have in their trailer.

[00:28:41] They should. Vice City.

[00:28:42] Yeah. OK. So it's definitely going to be vice city.

[00:28:44] It's probably going to be just like five where five had like multiple

[00:28:48] kind of like cities and towns.

[00:28:49] Yeah. So they've already confirmed that apparently.

[00:28:51] You're going to have Vice City as like probably the biggest city

[00:28:55] like the Miami ask city.

[00:28:57] Do you think it's going to go all the way up to Orlando?

[00:29:00] I hope so. That'd be cool.

[00:29:01] That would be really cool.

[00:29:02] That would be a year old stomping around.

[00:29:03] It might be a stomping ground.

[00:29:06] Yeah, I am.

[00:29:07] I have played Vice City, San Andreas and five.

[00:29:14] I skipped four.

[00:29:15] So you kind of been more in the modern GTA.

[00:29:18] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:29:18] I never I never played for although I have heard

[00:29:21] really, really good things about Nico and four.

[00:29:24] I think people really, really like that game for whatever reason.

[00:29:26] I think that it's got from what I've heard.

[00:29:28] It's got a very strong story, a strong narrative to it

[00:29:30] that's similar to San Andreas in terms of, you know, the character arc

[00:29:34] and the progression that happens in that game.

[00:29:35] So the characters are just really fun to interact with.

[00:29:38] And you actually saw them grow throughout the entirety of the story,

[00:29:41] especially Nico.

[00:29:42] And of course, you have that kind of choice based, you know, Nico's

[00:29:45] an immigrant coming over.

[00:29:47] And you have that choice when you're fighting certain

[00:29:49] enemies that are storyline based or something, whether you want to kill them

[00:29:53] or don't kill them and that kind of has certain things

[00:29:58] that will happen later on in the story based on what you do

[00:30:00] or what you don't do in those situations.

[00:30:01] So, OK, yeah.

[00:30:05] But yeah, in terms of like what I really, really enjoy,

[00:30:08] I would say that of everything, my favorite probably is San Andreas

[00:30:12] just because there's a lot of nostalgia for that game and just like

[00:30:15] a lot of like crazy zany stuff that you can do.

[00:30:17] There's a ton of stuff to do in that game.

[00:30:19] Yeah. Go get fat. You can get buff.

[00:30:20] I like I like doing the bench press.

[00:30:22] That was like one of my favorite things going to the gym

[00:30:24] and getting buff for the game.

[00:30:25] I just walk around with massive arms and shoulders.

[00:30:28] Big, big triangle Dorito shape.

[00:30:31] Large CJ. Yeah, it's one of those. Exactly.

[00:30:34] It's like the good version of when we talked about before with

[00:30:38] Rune Factory, where everything you can level up, you know,

[00:30:40] you level up your shooting, you level up your biking,

[00:30:43] your cardio and all that jazz.

[00:30:44] But it's it's organic and it makes sense.

[00:30:47] Like, oh, you go to the gym and your character gets stronger

[00:30:49] versus I have to level up my driving by just driving.

[00:30:54] Let me level up my sleeping.

[00:30:56] Yeah, I love that.

[00:30:58] But yeah, OK.

[00:30:59] So to center it on the conversation around GTA 6,

[00:31:02] I wanted to talk about a little bit of that just so we could kind

[00:31:04] of give our background and just understanding of the ad.

[00:31:07] We've played Grand Theft Auto before.

[00:31:08] I've never played Grand Theft Auto online.

[00:31:10] Shout out to all of the people that, you know, grind in that do

[00:31:12] the races, do the RP.

[00:31:14] Have you have you known anybody to do the RP service?

[00:31:17] Well, the RP servers, I mean, I've seen them online,

[00:31:19] but I don't know anybody personally.

[00:31:20] OK, got it. That gets a little hectic.

[00:31:23] A little too deep, a little too deep for me.

[00:31:25] The online RP, everyone has to really buy in to do that.

[00:31:28] Right. You can't have like one outlier otherwise.

[00:31:30] It kind of shatters that illusion.

[00:31:31] But yeah, I mean, it looks fun.

[00:31:33] It's cool. Yeah.

[00:31:34] But in terms of Grand Theft Auto 6 and our expectations,

[00:31:38] what we want from this game in 2025, because that's when it's supposed

[00:31:42] to be coming out on assuming that there are going to be no delays

[00:31:45] or any issues that we experience between now and then.

[00:31:47] Video games never get delayed.

[00:31:48] What was the thing that piqued your interest the most about

[00:31:52] the trailer that came out the Game Awards last year?

[00:31:56] Say, I mean, aside from obviously how great the graphics look

[00:31:59] and just that kind of visual increase from five to six,

[00:32:03] probably the amount of people slash things on screen.

[00:32:07] Like, I love when games get really heavy with their technicals,

[00:32:12] like those technical aspects.

[00:32:13] So allowing to like, hey, we're going to go from the last game.

[00:32:16] We had 10 characters on screen, Max.

[00:32:18] And then now we can have 100 characters on screen.

[00:32:20] So seeing that difference, especially being fairly familiar

[00:32:24] with the Vice City area and then seeing a similar road,

[00:32:27] at least I could kind of tell from the old game way back in the day,

[00:32:31] you know, like the PS2 era.

[00:32:34] Seeing how, you know, what you get like 10 people on the street

[00:32:36] at any given time before I start to fade away just because of the

[00:32:38] limitations on the consoles and even the PCs at the time. Yeah.

[00:32:43] But then looking at the trailer now where you see cars

[00:32:46] going up and down the road and people walking back and forth,

[00:32:49] getting out of cars, getting out of cars.

[00:32:50] And there's just hundreds of characters on screen,

[00:32:53] all kinds of great looking graphics, no potential ray tracing.

[00:32:56] I think you can kind of see there in some of the areas.

[00:32:58] So just that technical jump, that leap is what's really interesting me

[00:33:02] because at the end of the day, GTA gameplay, generally GTA gameplay,

[00:33:06] they're going to add in a couple of new things here and there.

[00:33:08] But you for the most part know what you're getting into.

[00:33:11] But it's really just about how much further they can kind of suck

[00:33:14] you into that world and make you feel like you're a part of it,

[00:33:17] whether it be a giant crowd or just how realistic your interactions

[00:33:21] with that crowd may be.

[00:33:23] So I'm excited to see what things you can do to like a crowd of people.

[00:33:26] Is it going to be like Red Dead 2 where you can, you know,

[00:33:29] like shoot your gun in the air and like scare people and rob them?

[00:33:32] That would be cool.

[00:33:33] You know, like you point your gun at them and they throw money at you.

[00:33:35] Things you could do like in the older GTAs,

[00:33:36] but like how much more realistic is it going to look now versus,

[00:33:39] you know, dollars just falling to the ground and then scurrying off.

[00:33:43] So I'm excited.

[00:33:44] I would say that for me, it's more of it's kind of similar in that vein,

[00:33:48] but it's also more geared on what they did with Red Dead Redemption 2.

[00:33:52] I would love to see what they did with the randomized events

[00:33:55] in Red Dead Redemption 2, similar to kind of what we were talking about

[00:33:57] with Tears of the Kingdom, where you're in an open world

[00:34:00] and things that you don't expect to happen suddenly happen,

[00:34:03] whether it's, you know, obviously the example is you go under a cover bridge

[00:34:07] and you go out the other side and you get robbed.

[00:34:10] You know, I'd be curious to see what they do with that.

[00:34:12] But just in this like IRL 2024, 2025 Miami setting,

[00:34:17] like how are they going to do that?

[00:34:18] Are you going to be going to like house parties

[00:34:21] and all of a sudden somebody tries to shake you down for whatever you have?

[00:34:24] Or, you know, just all of the crazy zany stuff that you see in that trailer

[00:34:29] is that energy going to be stilled in pockets of every different piece of this map?

[00:34:34] That's what I'm really curious to see what they do.

[00:34:36] And then, you know, more than that, to be honest,

[00:34:40] I'm really curious about, I love the fact that they're going back

[00:34:42] to this Bonnie Clyde storyline.

[00:34:46] And that's something that we'll talk about a little bit later on.

[00:34:48] But with the two characters, Lucia and I don't remember who's the male character's name.

[00:34:52] Do you know? Do we know? He's not important.

[00:34:54] He's not important. He's not important.

[00:34:56] He is the main character.

[00:34:58] He's not the main character.

[00:35:00] But yeah, it's Tommy, but I'm pretty sure he's not the main character.

[00:35:02] Yeah. But, you know, of course, I'd be curious to see like

[00:35:06] how their relationship impacts the game.

[00:35:08] Are they going to be with each other the entire time?

[00:35:10] Are they going to be going out doing separate things

[00:35:12] unless it's a main story mission and then they're together?

[00:35:14] I'm curious as to how that's going to play out.

[00:35:18] And what we're going to see there.

[00:35:19] So there's just a lot that we don't know quite yet.

[00:35:22] I'd love to see gameplay at some point later this year.

[00:35:26] Maybe we might get some gameplay in SGF.

[00:35:28] Yeah. Knock, knock. Jeff Keely, where you at, my boy?

[00:35:31] And if not, I would assume we might get a gameplay trailer

[00:35:35] at some type of event at the end of this year.

[00:35:38] And it's also Jason, by the way.

[00:35:40] Jason. Lucia and Jason.

[00:35:42] OK, not Tommy.

[00:35:45] But yeah, so that's something that really piqued my interest

[00:35:47] about the trailer. And then, of course, all the landmark

[00:35:50] monuments of Miami and everything that you're going to experience there.

[00:35:53] It's just so cool.

[00:35:54] And like I am curious as to like the realism

[00:35:59] and kind of on that note, we'll just transition to this next piece

[00:36:03] is that, you know, there's going to be a major leap in tech

[00:36:07] that Rockstar will have access to when they're creating Grand Theft

[00:36:11] Oh, throughout their development process.

[00:36:12] Exactly. They're probably working with series X,

[00:36:16] series X, Dev Kits, PS5, Dev Kits when they're creating this game,

[00:36:20] I can only assume maybe even PS5 pro.

[00:36:23] That's that's the question.

[00:36:25] Like, you know, I would I would love it.

[00:36:27] I what would be really interesting is that I think we talked about

[00:36:30] this beforehand and I think I'll just go out here and say definitively

[00:36:33] Rockstar is about making fucking money.

[00:36:35] They are not going to do a console exclusive tied to either Sony or Xbox.

[00:36:40] There's not like there would make no business sense

[00:36:43] on either corporation's part for them to throw enough money at Rockstar

[00:36:47] to make it worth their while.

[00:36:48] Exactly, because they're just going to make money hand over

[00:36:50] face to wherever they go.

[00:36:51] And dollars inside of 24 hours.

[00:36:53] There's no way I would be willing to bet that Grand Theft Auto 6

[00:36:57] and then the GTA online that's probably tied,

[00:36:59] because I imagine they're going to do an update to GTA online.

[00:37:02] That's going to be the Grand Theft Auto 6 tenant

[00:37:04] that's pulled forward, similar to what modern Call of Duty does with

[00:37:08] Warzone with every new iteration that comes out.

[00:37:11] They just like kind of upgrade it or change it for the different seasons.

[00:37:15] I would be willing to bet that those put together will probably be,

[00:37:19] if not the top five, top three best selling games of all time.

[00:37:23] Like, I would be willing to like that a solid amount on that.

[00:37:27] I agree. And I feel like that it's going to do very, very commercially.

[00:37:31] It's going to be commercially successful.

[00:37:33] So I think that's really interesting.

[00:37:35] But like in terms of the gameplay, I'd love to see.

[00:37:39] I think it would be interesting if Sony decides to maybe make a deal

[00:37:42] to package GTA 6 with a PS5 Pro.

[00:37:46] I think that would be a good move, especially since like

[00:37:50] the rumor supposedly that is coming out Christmas season,

[00:37:53] probably not going to be in time for the release date or the launch of GTA 6.

[00:37:57] Who knows? Crazy shit happens.

[00:37:58] It does. Crazier shit has happened.

[00:37:59] But if it comes out in Q1 of next year,

[00:38:02] I would it would be smart if if Sony was going to be like,

[00:38:05] oh, buy a PS5 Pro and then have GTA on the box.

[00:38:09] Oh, but there's no way GTA is coming out Q1 next year.

[00:38:12] I say if it does come out next year, it's going to be holiday.

[00:38:15] They're going to be milking that cow for as long as possible.

[00:38:18] Why do you think they would wait so long?

[00:38:20] Well, you think it's still actual dev time that they need or?

[00:38:24] There's a combination of that, as well as the holiday season

[00:38:27] is just going to be everybody ready to spend money.

[00:38:29] Yeah. And you're going to be getting everyone

[00:38:31] asking for Grand Theft Auto for a present. All the kids.

[00:38:33] So yeah, Q1, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense

[00:38:36] because you're sitting there like, it's only for people like us.

[00:38:38] Yeah, exactly. Who's looking to buy a bunch of video games in Q1

[00:38:41] or like spend their money on games?

[00:38:43] Most people. We kind of talked about this a little bit.

[00:38:45] Surprisingly, as far as like the stats,

[00:38:47] like people will buy a game console

[00:38:50] and then over the life of that console, buy like four games max.

[00:38:52] So obviously we're outliers.

[00:38:54] But it's the kind of thing where somebody will get a video game

[00:38:57] for Christmas present or a birthday present.

[00:38:59] And you can't guess someone's birthday.

[00:39:01] So Christmas is the next best thing you can guarantee.

[00:39:03] So holiday either December, maybe coming out November,

[00:39:07] something like that just makes sense for a game like Grand Theft Auto.

[00:39:10] Because one, you're going to have the whole end of the year,

[00:39:12] which when people are going on break to want to play it anyways.

[00:39:15] And then people have all that extra money from their bonuses

[00:39:18] and their presents and everything to spend on Grand Theft Auto.

[00:39:21] So and of course, speaking as somebody who pays attention

[00:39:25] to like reviews and, you know, the game awards and all that, too,

[00:39:29] you come out as close to the end of the year as possible.

[00:39:31] You're fresh in everyone's mind

[00:39:33] when it comes to that game of the year conversation.

[00:39:35] So even more of a chance for you to potentially pick up some best graphics,

[00:39:39] best game of the year, you know, best devs, all that jazz

[00:39:42] when you come out closer to the actual announcement for those.

[00:39:46] That's true.

[00:39:47] So I would say like beginning like end of Q3, beginning of Q4,

[00:39:51] maybe something like that.

[00:39:52] That would make sense.

[00:39:53] It's from a marketing perspective, that's perfect.

[00:39:58] So but I'm curious in terms of the actual tech,

[00:40:01] the technological experience that you kind of mentioned in your hype.

[00:40:05] About this game, when, you know, developers really get deep in their bag

[00:40:08] of like that the tricks that they're able to pull.

[00:40:11] How do you think the tech hardware that they're going to have access

[00:40:15] to in these next gen consoles are going to affect the gameplay

[00:40:17] for GTA six versus a GTA five?

[00:40:20] I mean, it should really just be very similar,

[00:40:22] just a little bit one better looking, obviously, hopefully better looking.

[00:40:26] But also it's going to be the thing to where it just is more visible

[00:40:29] as far as some of the things that happen.

[00:40:31] Like, for example, this is all speculation,

[00:40:33] but it could be something to where, OK,

[00:40:35] getting shot in the game, you take health damage.

[00:40:37] But maybe where you get shot will affect you more,

[00:40:40] such as getting shot in the arm will affect your aiming.

[00:40:42] And then getting shot in the legs, you can't run as much.

[00:40:45] Also something that could turn people off just because, you know,

[00:40:48] you don't want to randomly get shot in the leg and now you can't sprint.

[00:40:50] And it feels like it negatively affects your gameplay.

[00:40:52] And it's something that you didn't do.

[00:40:54] But it just seems like the kind of thing that would be available

[00:40:58] with this increase in technology, you know, more specific area based damage.

[00:41:03] Maybe you catch like a stray shot to the skull or the head or something

[00:41:07] and it rings your bell so that your character has like a concussion or something.

[00:41:10] So I can see something like that happening.

[00:41:13] Of course, the cars are all going to be that same way.

[00:41:15] So you're going to drive them just like five, in my opinion,

[00:41:18] or at least from what I can kind of see.

[00:41:19] I hope that the car physics are better.

[00:41:21] I'm sure they'll be better.

[00:41:22] They better be better than cyber.

[00:41:23] They better be better.

[00:41:24] They should be better than cyberpunk, at the very least,

[00:41:26] because cyberpunk car mechanics are awful.

[00:41:28] Yeah, I'm sure they'll be better than cyberpunk

[00:41:30] because GTA V car mechanics are pretty fine.

[00:41:32] Are they?

[00:41:33] Yeah, you can play those and then you'll be good to go.

[00:41:35] Of course, they should have the same customization things just looking prettier.

[00:41:38] But then they'll have the kind of deal where you shoot the tires

[00:41:41] and like your tire kind of runs a flat.

[00:41:43] So then you're thinking like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

[00:41:45] You're feeling that.

[00:41:46] And of course, our new controllers since GTA V came out

[00:41:51] in the last gen, although of course they have this new gen version.

[00:41:55] But now I'm sure something that your tire gets flat

[00:41:57] and you can feel your controller kind of like vibrating on the right side.

[00:42:01] If it's a right tire or the left side, if it's a left tire.

[00:42:03] Yeah.

[00:42:03] So just making things more immersive.

[00:42:05] They probably do the classic, it's raining,

[00:42:07] and then you feel your controller like lightly shaking

[00:42:09] from like the rain hitting your character or something like that.

[00:42:12] So I can just see it really the increase in the technological

[00:42:17] is going to be more for the immersion than for anything.

[00:42:19] That's kind of like a hard gameplay kind of perspective.

[00:42:23] Because at the end of the day, you're not getting 60.

[00:42:25] You're not getting 60.

[00:42:26] Damn.

[00:42:26] I'm going to shut you down right now.

[00:42:27] Ah, sorry, gamers.

[00:42:29] Here's the thing.

[00:42:30] We'll set it.

[00:42:30] If we get 60, I'll gladly eat crow.

[00:42:33] But the fact that we're looking at next gen games just haven't been able to do it.

[00:42:39] No, they have not.

[00:42:40] And I understand people wanting the 60 frames and I agree.

[00:42:44] You know, I had to come around from like the 30 versus 60.

[00:42:46] 60 is better, but I'm playing games at 30 still like Dragon's Dogma.

[00:42:50] I locked at 30 because the variable frame rate really wasn't it.

[00:42:53] But I haven't felt a whole lot of craziness issues as far as with the 30.

[00:42:57] So I mean, hey, 30 is perfectly fine.

[00:43:01] Is it preferable?

[00:43:03] No, but really for shooters, do you have to parry in Dragon's Dogma?

[00:43:08] You don't have to because you're dependent on the class.

[00:43:10] Yeah, you can.

[00:43:12] OK, if you have a shield, you're not parrying.

[00:43:14] But it's still not bad.

[00:43:16] Shooters action games like Devil May Cry that require it,

[00:43:20] you know, something like Stellar Blade, for example.

[00:43:21] I'd be like, oh, this needs to be 60.

[00:43:23] But if you're playing just a normal kind of run around game or something

[00:43:27] like Grand Theft Auto that's not asking you to have precision movements,

[00:43:31] 30 is perfectly fine.

[00:43:32] Yeah, I mean, I agree with you.

[00:43:34] I completely understand your perspective on that.

[00:43:37] I to the extent that we're not going to get 60 frames per second.

[00:43:40] Like if they pull that off, that would be a miracle.

[00:43:43] It would be a miracle considering the scope of that game.

[00:43:45] But it's also the same technology impacts that you get when you're

[00:43:49] playing a Dragon's Dogma.

[00:43:50] Everything's fine when you're the open world

[00:43:52] and you don't have as many NPCs to account for.

[00:43:54] But it's literally that all of the different variables

[00:43:57] and the mechanics that are in a given area that's already been loaded

[00:44:00] into that moment that you're in that world, wherever things are kind

[00:44:04] of just like sky boxes and kind of blocked out and not actually

[00:44:07] functioning.

[00:44:08] But when you're in the cities, of course,

[00:44:10] that's the reason why you're going to get frame rate dips

[00:44:12] because the game is trying to control 50 NPCs that are walking around

[00:44:15] the city in Capcom for whatever reason with the RE Engine

[00:44:18] hasn't been able to figure that out.

[00:44:20] I assume that because obviously Rockstar, they

[00:44:23] are the open world guys.

[00:44:26] They're going to find a way to when you're walking down

[00:44:28] the streets of Vice City, they're

[00:44:29] going to make it fine to have 50, 100 people walking around.

[00:44:33] And they're going to do some type of tech tricks in there.

[00:44:37] But yeah, so we talked about that.

[00:44:38] And then we obviously talked about timed exclusivity just

[00:44:42] being very silly and not based in reality.

[00:44:44] So if you're listening to other industry analysts

[00:44:47] out there, just know that they're just kind of trying

[00:44:49] to make money.

[00:44:50] They're not playing games.

[00:44:51] Exactly.

[00:44:52] Now, I do want to talk about since this game, of course,

[00:44:55] takes place in Vice City, which

[00:44:57] is supposed to be that kind of comparison to Miami.

[00:45:01] So good old Florida you mentioned earlier.

[00:45:03] That's right.

[00:45:03] Orlando being my stomping grounds.

[00:45:05] That's right.

[00:45:05] So I don't know.

[00:45:06] I'm curious to see what they do.

[00:45:08] Well, I'm not really a Miami guy.

[00:45:10] I've been to Miami once, like literally one time.

[00:45:12] Because it's look, by the time I got done in Miami,

[00:45:15] I was an old man.

[00:45:16] I think I was in like my mid-20s.

[00:45:18] Old man.

[00:45:18] Old man, he says.

[00:45:20] Yep.

[00:45:21] So I was like this.

[00:45:22] With disrespect.

[00:45:22] I'm not trying to sit here running around Miami like this.

[00:45:24] Our listeners are punching the air right now.

[00:45:26] They're just like, brrrr!

[00:45:27] Yo, shout out to you if you're 40 going to Miami.

[00:45:30] You're stronger than I am because I'm not doing it.

[00:45:32] Is the traffic as bad as it says?

[00:45:34] The traffic is horrendous.

[00:45:36] OK.

[00:45:36] The traffic was atrocious.

[00:45:37] So what would you recommend as a tourist

[00:45:39] if you're going to go down to Miami to have a good time?

[00:45:41] Don't.

[00:45:42] Just don't go.

[00:45:44] All the little things that you're doing,

[00:45:47] all the Miami livers are just like clapping their hands

[00:45:52] right now.

[00:45:52] Yes.

[00:45:53] If you're a tourist, don't go to Miami.

[00:45:55] No, Miami.

[00:45:55] Check this out.

[00:45:56] All podcasting platforms, Friday night game guys.

[00:45:58] But if you have to go to Miami,

[00:46:00] I mean, you could check out the honestly,

[00:46:02] it's the kind of place where I think going there

[00:46:05] and doing the touristy stuff is probably worth it.

[00:46:08] But like Uber versus taxi?

[00:46:11] Yes.

[00:46:11] OK.

[00:46:12] And it's still going to be expensive.

[00:46:13] It's going to be super expensive.

[00:46:16] But yeah, definitely Uber.

[00:46:17] OK.

[00:46:17] Hit up South Beach.

[00:46:18] Have some fun there.

[00:46:19] So many great brunch spots.

[00:46:20] Go to some drag brunches.

[00:46:22] They're fun.

[00:46:22] They're awesome.

[00:46:23] Yeah.

[00:46:23] Lots of really good stuff.

[00:46:25] Miami was cool.

[00:46:26] I'm not going to knock Miami because the club scene was

[00:46:28] fun, the partying was fun.

[00:46:29] I felt it the next day just because I'm like, look.

[00:46:31] Were you married when you went down there?

[00:46:34] Were you engaged maybe?

[00:46:36] I can't remember the year.

[00:46:39] And now I remember a while back.

[00:46:40] Yeah, I can't remember the year.

[00:46:42] I feel like I was not married at the time.

[00:46:44] OK.

[00:46:44] But I mean, Sarah and I were together.

[00:46:45] But I can't remember.

[00:46:46] It's either around that time or yay or nay.

[00:46:48] So that's all right.

[00:46:49] It was right around that time.

[00:46:50] It's so fun, though.

[00:46:51] But it was a good time.

[00:46:52] But Miami was cool.

[00:46:54] As far as how they're going to kind of nail that culture

[00:46:56] and try to get Miami going because once again,

[00:46:58] they may go up as far as Orlando, which if anyone's

[00:47:01] either been to Florida, lived in Florida,

[00:47:03] gone through Florida, it's a super long state.

[00:47:07] As you go, there are 100% changes in culture.

[00:47:11] Florida is not one big culture.

[00:47:13] Don't let the Florida man thing prove you.

[00:47:15] Yes, there's craziness all over the state.

[00:47:17] You got North Florida that might as well be South Georgia.

[00:47:20] And then you got the middle of Florida,

[00:47:21] which is just like super liberal.

[00:47:24] And then the other side, it's like conservative.

[00:47:27] And they're always going back and forth.

[00:47:29] Interesting.

[00:47:29] Is it liberal?

[00:47:30] Yeah, of course it's a little part of Florida.

[00:47:31] I mean, I just assumed just cities are generally more

[00:47:34] liberal than the rural areas.

[00:47:36] Well, for the most part until you get enough money

[00:47:39] and then you become a Republican.

[00:47:40] And then it's the red pill state.

[00:47:41] It's the red pill capital.

[00:47:43] Everyone's liberal until they start making money.

[00:47:45] And then they're like, wait a minute.

[00:47:47] Oh shit, I hate that.

[00:47:48] I hate that so much.

[00:47:49] But then of course, yeah, you get to Miami

[00:47:51] and it's just really liberal.

[00:47:52] Lots of great scenes out there.

[00:47:54] Plenty of different cultures,

[00:47:55] plenty of different lifestyles

[00:47:56] that kind of mix together fairly well.

[00:47:58] So it's going to be difficult

[00:47:59] just because there's so many different things

[00:48:02] for them to add in.

[00:48:03] But I feel like they did a solid job in five.

[00:48:05] And of course they can just continue

[00:48:07] to expand that for four.

[00:48:08] Like when you're in the city,

[00:48:09] it feels like a city.

[00:48:10] And then in five, when you're going out into the more

[00:48:13] rural, kind of podunkish part of California,

[00:48:16] you're getting to your rural folks that are out there.

[00:48:19] And you're coming across folks in trailers

[00:48:21] and doing stuff in a more conservative,

[00:48:22] more outside folks, people that want to live outside.

[00:48:25] They don't want to live in the city.

[00:48:26] And you can kind of feel that

[00:48:27] when you're walking around

[00:48:28] and you're seeing how they dress

[00:48:29] and how they respond to you as the character.

[00:48:32] I want to see people riding around in golf carts.

[00:48:34] That will 100% be a thing.

[00:48:36] I want to see-

[00:48:37] You're going to be playing golf.

[00:48:38] I want to see herds of alligators somewhere.

[00:48:41] I want to see herds of alligators.

[00:48:42] Is that the appropriate term for alligators?

[00:48:43] I don't know if that's a scientific term.

[00:48:44] I don't know if that's what they call it.

[00:48:46] A clutch of gaggle.

[00:48:48] I feel like a clutch of gators sounds better.

[00:48:51] I don't know.

[00:48:51] But regardless, yeah, gators got to be in it.

[00:48:54] So it was interesting.

[00:48:55] I was looking up some stuff to prepare for this episode

[00:48:57] and I was watching this person who was talking about

[00:49:00] leaks or different information that Rockstar has confirmed

[00:49:02] about GTA 6 so far.

[00:49:04] And he said something that Grand Theft Auto fans

[00:49:06] have been asking for in response to their gameplay

[00:49:08] experience with 5 is having more structures

[00:49:13] that have interiors that you as the character

[00:49:15] can go inside of.

[00:49:16] Whether that's for gameplay purposes

[00:49:17] or just for walking around and being immersed,

[00:49:20] feeling that experience.

[00:49:21] And apparently Rockstar came out and said

[00:49:23] that because of different tech tricks

[00:49:24] that they have implemented into the game so far,

[00:49:27] that 75% of the interiors in the game

[00:49:31] where there are structures that you can go inside

[00:49:34] will be finished and you can go inside

[00:49:36] and experience that, which is crazy.

[00:49:39] And of course a lot of that is gonna be procedural.

[00:49:41] However, it'll be the coolest thing to go into

[00:49:44] like a 7-Eleven down there and have some like,

[00:49:47] some haggard old man sitting behind the cashier

[00:49:51] who's on his last leg with a cigarette

[00:49:53] hanging out of his mouth,

[00:49:54] yell at you as you go buy a pack of beer.

[00:49:56] That kind of stuff would be really, really cool for me.

[00:49:59] Being able to experience that

[00:50:01] or just like walking around downtown

[00:50:02] and I don't know, maybe walking inside of a building

[00:50:05] and all of a sudden seeing that it's like this mall,

[00:50:08] like it's an interior shopping mall or something like that.

[00:50:11] That just feels like it would like create more

[00:50:14] of that sense of immersion

[00:50:15] that Rockstar has always been driving towards

[00:50:17] and I think that that's just like really interesting.

[00:50:19] I feel like that's definitely something

[00:50:20] that they should be striving for

[00:50:22] just because you already have

[00:50:23] that kind of gas station-esque type of thing

[00:50:25] that happens in five.

[00:50:27] Trying to remember as far as like buying

[00:50:28] the specific items off the,

[00:50:31] like you know, the beers and things like that,

[00:50:32] which I don't think you could do if not mistaken.

[00:50:34] I think you just go up to the cashier,

[00:50:36] you buy something from him directly

[00:50:37] and then it'll give you like health or you know, et cetera.

[00:50:40] But I want to see like you were saying there,

[00:50:41] maybe like going to get a pack of beer from a cooler

[00:50:45] taking it up front and paying for it

[00:50:46] or getting a pack of beer

[00:50:48] and then sprinting out the front door

[00:50:49] and then yelling at you.

[00:50:50] And then he's getting a star or something like that,

[00:50:52] hopping in the car, driving down the road.

[00:50:53] Like you said, just draw to that immersion

[00:50:55] and I feel like that's what they can do

[00:50:56] with this increased tech that they have

[00:50:58] and this increased time to make the game

[00:51:00] is that they can just really give you

[00:51:02] the opportunity to kind of RP as you know,

[00:51:05] Lucia and Jason when you're doing things.

[00:51:07] And that's what's really been the big draw for me as well

[00:51:09] in GTA as a whole is you have these characters

[00:51:12] very similar to Commander Shepard.

[00:51:14] I think we talked about like a little bit

[00:51:16] of Mass Effect earlier too.

[00:51:18] Whereas the Commander Shepard is a full blown character

[00:51:21] who has a past and a history,

[00:51:23] but then you play as them

[00:51:24] and you still get the chance to RP as that Shepard

[00:51:27] and go do things and you make those decisions

[00:51:30] and your Shepard is based off what you,

[00:51:32] the player wants to do and wants to be.

[00:51:34] And I love the fact that for the most part

[00:51:36] in Grand Theft Auto games,

[00:51:37] you can do that as well with your main characters.

[00:51:39] Nico Bellic was a established character that had a past

[00:51:42] but you get to choose his future

[00:51:44] and you play into that

[00:51:45] as you progress through the main story for GTA 4.

[00:51:48] So seeing that continued with six

[00:51:50] would be something that I would love to see.

[00:51:52] 100%.

[00:51:52] And when we talk about like culture,

[00:51:54] like how Rockstar is gonna nail the culture

[00:51:57] of Florida, of Vice City in this new iteration, obviously.

[00:52:01] I think it's just really interesting

[00:52:03] because Vice City was so,

[00:52:04] the original like Grand Theft Auto Vice City game

[00:52:07] was so based around the 80s

[00:52:08] and they really nailed that feeling

[00:52:10] of the 80s design, like the Magnum PI,

[00:52:13] the Starsky and Hush feeling of that game

[00:52:17] of that time and place.

[00:52:19] Of course, they're going for realism,

[00:52:20] they're going for today of Florida,

[00:52:22] which of course is present in this trailer.

[00:52:25] You see people twerking on top of cars.

[00:52:27] You see the Joker man with the face tats

[00:52:29] who apparently has become famous on his own

[00:52:31] because of this game.

[00:52:33] Come talk to me, Rockstar, come on.

[00:52:35] Come on, Grand Theft Auto, we gotta make a deal.

[00:52:37] He's trying to ask for millions of dollars.

[00:52:39] I'm like, all right.

[00:52:40] It's absolutely insane.

[00:52:41] But something that I'm interested in

[00:52:43] is the fact that like,

[00:52:43] how do you think they're gonna nail the writing

[00:52:46] in the characters?

[00:52:47] Like as somebody who's lived in Florida

[00:52:48] and North Carolina,

[00:52:49] do you think that like Florida people are drastically like,

[00:52:53] they just have a different vibe,

[00:52:55] they have a different feeling,

[00:52:56] they're talking to each other than North Carolinians?

[00:52:58] I mean, really they're both kind of the South Florida.

[00:53:02] It is.

[00:53:02] A little bit more.

[00:53:03] It sounds like the South of me in a day.

[00:53:04] Yeah, it sounds kind of the South.

[00:53:05] There's certain parts of Florida,

[00:53:06] like I mentioned, it's really spaced out.

[00:53:08] So depending on where you're at and where you're going,

[00:53:10] it will be different

[00:53:11] than another part of Florida that you're at.

[00:53:13] But there is a difference

[00:53:15] and I think you mentioned it properly there

[00:53:17] when you said like the 80s Miami culture.

[00:53:19] Well, I wasn't there.

[00:53:20] I'm not gonna act like I was there.

[00:53:22] Feels appropriate and it feels really genuine

[00:53:25] as far as what they made for the original Vice City.

[00:53:27] So I am hopeful for what they could do for this one.

[00:53:31] I feel like for the most part,

[00:53:33] like I can't really speak to once again,

[00:53:35] GT5 as far as like the California culture,

[00:53:37] but I mean things felt pretty fine there.

[00:53:39] Like I didn't really get anything too jarring

[00:53:40] like, oh, this wouldn't happen outside of all

[00:53:42] the craziness that we love from Grand Theft Auto

[00:53:45] as a whole, right?

[00:53:46] Which is another thing I expect.

[00:53:48] Feels easy to be like,

[00:53:49] hey, here's crazy stuff happening in Florida.

[00:53:51] But Grand Theft Auto, you know, Rockstar in particular,

[00:53:54] they have this way of making very specific crazy things,

[00:53:58] whether it be wild stuff you hear on the radio,

[00:54:00] things that characters do inside missions especially.

[00:54:03] There was like an alien invasion in five

[00:54:04] at one point, right?

[00:54:05] Yeah, so there's always something, you know,

[00:54:07] you can take characters and like give them up

[00:54:09] to a cult and you know,

[00:54:11] you're chasing down serial killers.

[00:54:13] So there's lots of crazy off the wall things

[00:54:16] that in this kind of quote unquote realistic world

[00:54:19] that you're playing in,

[00:54:20] but you're getting those really off the wall things

[00:54:23] that are happening to you and your characters.

[00:54:25] And I'm expecting something similar

[00:54:27] in that nice little Florida flair when it comes to Six.

[00:54:31] That's right.

[00:54:32] I think that we can both agree

[00:54:34] that the hints of what we've seen in this trailer

[00:54:37] and what we just know of Rockstar in general,

[00:54:39] especially with Red Dead Redemption,

[00:54:40] everything they implemented in that game,

[00:54:42] that it's just leading us to believe

[00:54:44] that the combat mechanics in GTA 6

[00:54:46] are gonna be kick ass.

[00:54:48] Specifically when it comes to combat

[00:54:50] in running around whether that's running from the cops

[00:54:53] or getting in the car, shooting out of the car.

[00:54:55] In the games that you've played,

[00:54:57] especially from GTA 5 and Red Dead Redemption 2,

[00:55:01] what would you want to see them change

[00:55:03] or improve in Grand Theft Auto 6?

[00:55:06] I want more of the kind of one-to-one

[00:55:09] like hand-to-hand fighting.

[00:55:10] Oh, that would be sick.

[00:55:11] Because in GTA 4 was actually really good.

[00:55:13] Really?

[00:55:14] And I liked it a lot.

[00:55:14] Okay.

[00:55:15] There was, you know, there was blocking.

[00:55:16] Kind of like Sifu level fighting?

[00:55:18] Definitely not Sifu level.

[00:55:19] Okay.

[00:55:19] Yeah, but there was blocking

[00:55:20] and then there was dodging moves

[00:55:23] and then from there you can attack

[00:55:24] and counter-attack and do things.

[00:55:25] And I felt a lot more involved than it was in 5.

[00:55:28] It did not have that in 5.

[00:55:29] Yeah, it was very simplistic.

[00:55:30] It was like you're punching or maybe you're dodging.

[00:55:32] But really like you can kind of do hand-to-hand fighting

[00:55:35] which includes things like knives and bats, et cetera.

[00:55:37] More in depth than 4.

[00:55:38] So I feel like a return to form there would be great

[00:55:40] because I want to get to the point where

[00:55:42] once again it won't be Sifu level

[00:55:44] but I want to walk into a room full of people

[00:55:46] that don't have guns

[00:55:48] and then I'm able to just be like,

[00:55:49] you know, put my hands up

[00:55:50] and I'm like, all right, let's do this.

[00:55:53] So then you start swinging, breaking legs.

[00:55:54] I want more finishers hand-to-hand based

[00:55:56] whether it be weapons or hand-to-hand

[00:55:57] like your shirt up hands themselves.

[00:55:58] You want your solo leveling moments.

[00:56:00] I want to sword into the ground.

[00:56:01] Yep and just be like, yo, we're gonna run the ones.

[00:56:04] Like that's what I want to do.

[00:56:05] So doing that would be great.

[00:56:07] And then that also comes down

[00:56:08] to just more combat in general.

[00:56:09] The combat is very simple in Grand Theft Auto

[00:56:12] because it doesn't need to be crazy.

[00:56:14] You know, you take cover,

[00:56:15] you shoot, you pop back in, you reload, you do things.

[00:56:19] You know, give me some,

[00:56:21] I'm trying to remember if five had a dive or not.

[00:56:22] I don't recall it.

[00:56:23] Did they have cover mechanics in five?

[00:56:26] Was it as clean as like yours?

[00:56:28] I mean, definitely not.

[00:56:29] But I mean, at the end of the day

[00:56:31] cover mechanics are all very static.

[00:56:32] Like you hop on a car, you pop up, you pop down.

[00:56:35] You can like shimmy between like the cars.

[00:56:38] I can't remember if they had two things

[00:56:39] that are side to side

[00:56:40] and you can kind of like do the cover back and forth.

[00:56:43] I feel like you could potentially do like a roadie run

[00:56:45] to like the cover, but I can't remember.

[00:56:48] But if not put something like that in there,

[00:56:49] the roadie run, I want to be able to take cover

[00:56:51] and like transition between one to two points

[00:56:53] like very seamlessly.

[00:56:55] Especially if it's a hectic situation.

[00:56:57] You got six people that are bearing down on you

[00:56:58] with assault rifles.

[00:56:59] Yep, so it's like, let me hop between things.

[00:57:01] You can slide over cars in five, I know.

[00:57:03] So keep that please.

[00:57:03] I want to do that like nice little slide over cars

[00:57:05] and maybe like shoot people mid slide.

[00:57:07] Another thing too,

[00:57:08] I want more interactions when I have maybe a weapon

[00:57:11] and somebody's not paying attention.

[00:57:12] Like they have stealth finishes that you can do

[00:57:15] if you're like sneaking behind somebody

[00:57:16] with a knife or something,

[00:57:17] you can like stab them for a one-hit kill.

[00:57:20] But I want to be able to like grab somebody

[00:57:21] and hold them hostage and like, you know,

[00:57:22] hold the gun over their shoulder

[00:57:24] and yell at their guys to put their guns down

[00:57:26] while I'm holding the gun to this guy's head.

[00:57:27] So just more interactions like that to make,

[00:57:31] instead of every fight just being shoot, shoot, bang,

[00:57:33] bang, shoot, shoot, bang, bang,

[00:57:34] I can deescalate a whole fight

[00:57:35] by making people put their guns down

[00:57:37] and then either killing them all

[00:57:38] or like walking away scot-free

[00:57:40] and then running down the street.

[00:57:41] Just adding to that role play.

[00:57:43] You know, my character doesn't have to be

[00:57:44] a bloodthirsty crazy monster

[00:57:46] because maybe I can just use the threat of violence

[00:57:48] to deescalate a situation.

[00:57:49] That would be sick.

[00:57:50] So that'd be cool.

[00:57:51] I love talking my way out of violence.

[00:57:52] It's my favorite thing in games.

[00:57:53] It's the best.

[00:57:54] It's my favorite thing.

[00:57:55] Just being threatening.

[00:57:56] Yep, exactly.

[00:57:58] Yeah, I don't have too much to add to that.

[00:58:00] I think it would be cool if they added

[00:58:02] some Red Dead Redemption like shooting mechanics

[00:58:04] in the game in terms of,

[00:58:06] don't they have like a time slow situation

[00:58:08] where you're able to-

[00:58:09] In five year, each character had their own

[00:58:11] specific like special thing.

[00:58:13] So it was, shoot, what is his name?

[00:58:15] I can't remember the, Stephen Aug's character.

[00:58:19] Shoot, what is the crazy one that was bald?

[00:58:21] Oh, Trevor.

[00:58:22] Trevor, there you go.

[00:58:23] Trevor, he had like the rage mode

[00:58:24] where like he would not take as much damage.

[00:58:26] I think he could get health and stuff.

[00:58:29] Almost called him Lincoln.

[00:58:30] Franklin could drive well when he was in the car.

[00:58:32] He could slow down his driving

[00:58:34] so that he can like weave in and out of traffic

[00:58:35] easier and then Michael was the one that had

[00:58:37] that kind of Max Payne-ish slow down shooter

[00:58:39] because he was like the shooter of the group.

[00:58:41] So everyone had their own unique

[00:58:43] kind of special skill available.

[00:58:45] I don't think they should do that.

[00:58:47] I don't think they should repeat that,

[00:58:48] especially if there's just two different

[00:58:50] playable protagonists.

[00:58:51] It's just two of what we've seen so far.

[00:58:53] Yeah, I think that they should give them each like,

[00:58:56] I don't know, maybe they could have

[00:58:58] their own individual skills,

[00:59:00] but I feel like they should at least be transferable

[00:59:02] between the two.

[00:59:03] And one is just better than the other

[00:59:04] at their respective skills.

[00:59:06] I would like it to where maybe they each

[00:59:07] have a unique skill at least.

[00:59:09] Maybe they can each slow down

[00:59:10] and each use their car slow down, et cetera.

[00:59:13] But then there's one thing that Jason has

[00:59:16] and then one thing Lucia has

[00:59:17] because just like how we talked about before

[00:59:19] where we didn't even know Jason's name

[00:59:20] before looking it up, right?

[00:59:21] 99% of the people playing this game

[00:59:24] hopefully are gonna play as Lucia

[00:59:25] because she seems to be the main character.

[00:59:27] She's getting a lot of the focus.

[00:59:28] She's the first person you see.

[00:59:29] First person you see in the trailer.

[00:59:31] So realistically she's going to be

[00:59:33] that kind of main focus, that main character.

[00:59:36] And then from there, you either pop into Jason

[00:59:39] whenever you want to or there'll be specific

[00:59:42] game moments where maybe Lucia is indisposed

[00:59:44] and you have to play as Jason.

[00:59:45] But give me a reason to play as Jason.

[00:59:47] Give me something special and unique to him

[00:59:49] that it's like, wow, I'm going into a place

[00:59:51] that requires a lot of muscle and fighting.

[00:59:53] Okay, I don't wanna go in there as Lucia

[00:59:55] because Jason has more punching power.

[00:59:57] So let me play as Jason to go take care of this.

[00:59:59] I agree with you completely.

[01:00:01] And on that note, speaking of Jason and Lucia,

[01:00:04] I think kind of to finalize our talk

[01:00:07] regarding our theories and speculations

[01:00:09] for Grand Theft Auto VI,

[01:00:11] are you in or out on Bonnie and Clyde?

[01:00:13] I'm in, I'm fully in.

[01:00:14] This is awesome.

[01:00:15] That's what's up.

[01:00:15] Because the three character,

[01:00:17] the tree antagonist thing from five,

[01:00:19] I liked a lot and it showed off

[01:00:22] the really cool switching between them in real time.

[01:00:24] Which was so funny because in the PS4,

[01:00:27] you would do that and it would take you

[01:00:29] like three minutes because the old-

[01:00:30] You'd just scroll on Twitter a little bit.

[01:00:32] Is it like hovered above the world

[01:00:34] and then it would come down.

[01:00:35] And then now we're doing it in the PS5,

[01:00:37] which is kind of quote unquote meant to, right?

[01:00:39] Where you go up and you go down.

[01:00:40] Immediately go to the characters.

[01:00:41] But it's so cool when you do that

[01:00:44] and then you go to Trevor,

[01:00:45] who's in the middle of a cop chase

[01:00:47] because he's a psychopath.

[01:00:48] Or you go down into Franklin

[01:00:50] and he's playing fetch with Chop

[01:00:53] because that's his dog

[01:00:54] and that's what he's hanging out with

[01:00:55] on a normal day-to-day.

[01:00:57] So I like being able to A-switch

[01:00:58] between those two characters.

[01:00:59] But I like the fact that these two characters

[01:01:02] are connected to each other

[01:01:04] versus more than kind of happenstance.

[01:01:05] Like how the five was.

[01:01:06] Exactly.

[01:01:07] And I think that was something

[01:01:08] that I was gonna touch on is that

[01:01:10] I think it's really cool specifically

[01:01:11] because Bonnie and Clyde is an intimate story.

[01:01:14] And I think it would be awesome

[01:01:15] if you have this crazy, reckless,

[01:01:18] chaotic nature of a Grand Theft Auto game

[01:01:21] but the two main protagonists

[01:01:22] are actually very close to each other

[01:01:24] and in love with each other

[01:01:25] and really want to go another way

[01:01:26] to support each other.

[01:01:28] But because of that last line in the trailer

[01:01:30] where she's like, trust,

[01:01:31] and he's like, trust,

[01:01:32] they're gonna do some fuck shit.

[01:01:34] Somebody's gonna fucking rat each other out.

[01:01:37] Somebody's gonna betray somebody.

[01:01:38] Sell each other out.

[01:01:40] And then they're gonna be in jail when it starts.

[01:01:41] So we don't know if that's the start of the game

[01:01:42] or the end of the game.

[01:01:42] Oh, the end of the game.

[01:01:43] Who knows?

[01:01:44] Exactly.

[01:01:45] Who knows who's the rat in this game?

[01:01:46] Who's the rat?

[01:01:47] No, so we'll see.

[01:01:48] You mentioned Bonnie and Clyde too

[01:01:50] and we all know how that turns out.

[01:01:51] Right.

[01:01:52] It's one of those things

[01:01:53] where they might get the John Marston treatment.

[01:01:54] And you know.

[01:01:56] Rockstar, can you keep your characters alive

[01:01:57] for at least two entries in a game?

[01:01:59] Rockstar, keep a character alive challenge impossible.

[01:02:02] Impossible mode.

[01:02:03] Impossible.

[01:02:04] Oh my goodness.

[01:02:06] Well folks, that is gonna be it for tonight

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