The 3DO Experience - Episode 32: Gex: The Pop Culture Reference Throwing Killer App?

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[00:00:42] the 3DO company, the console and everything in between. I'm Bill and this is Thrak. How you doing, Thrak?

[00:00:47] Oh, I'm doing great, man. How are you?

[00:00:50] I'm doing fine. It's been a, it's a short week for us.

[00:00:56] I, it's interesting like the company I work for actually gives us a good Friday off,

[00:01:01] which I've realized not a lot of people actually get off in, say you go, Praise God.

[00:01:07] But because it's a short week, it's going by like twice as long as a normal week would go.

[00:01:13] Yeah, it's because you're thinking about it.

[00:01:16] Yeah. But I don't know that not bad. Got massive traffic, a jam, I believe in work today.

[00:01:23] Like took me like 30 minutes to get home usually takes like 10.

[00:01:27] Well, at least you're not in Baltimore. Yeah.

[00:01:31] Yeah, that's just fucking damn that old things rough.

[00:01:36] I watched the video that bridge legit just went down.

[00:01:39] Destroyed yeah, just gone completely.

[00:01:42] And of course the internet being the internet people are throwing all their conspiracies out there.

[00:01:47] Like people being like, how do they know there's this many people missing or whatever?

[00:01:52] And it's like they probably asked the construction company how many people they assigned that job.

[00:01:57] Like, like people keep track of this shit y'all.

[00:02:01] And they're like, why are there so many like cameras and it's like well, people like putting cameras on bridges.

[00:02:07] Like I wonder how many cameras are on the Golden Gate Bridge right now.

[00:02:11] There people would be amazed that there are fanatics for just about everything.

[00:02:17] Yeah, and like the like cities like to put up live streams of like time square or you know like major metropolitan areas.

[00:02:27] It's not that crazy. It's not but we won't get deep into that because that's a whole can of worms.

[00:02:33] It's just going to make me upset. But today is a big day.

[00:02:37] It's an exciting day for me. I don't know if it is for you because we finally get to talk about the lizard freak himself.

[00:02:47] Good old gecks. How much of that long box cost you?

[00:02:52] So they were selling it for $100.

[00:02:56] I got it as a bundle because I bought it with my 3DO.

[00:03:00] So when I bought it, the story I bought it from is like the old retro store from my hometown.

[00:03:06] I got the 3DO FC one shockwave mist road rash and gecks all together for $200 like as like a bundle.

[00:03:18] That's a great deal really.

[00:03:21] Well, it was kind of like I knew the owner. Well, I still know him but we were good good friends and we were chatting about it.

[00:03:28] And he basically told me he's like this thing's been sitting here for like a year now and nobody wants it.

[00:03:33] If you'll take it off my hands, I'll give you this deal and I was like sold sold I'm going to start a podcast with it.

[00:03:41] Yeah, kind of if only he knew.

[00:03:46] Well, he does. He's aware.

[00:03:49] Okay, good. Good.

[00:03:51] Is the back of that gecks long box messed up or is that just the lighting?

[00:03:57] So the top is a little crushed in.

[00:04:00] Okay, okay, because from the angle it looked like it was like ripped or something.

[00:04:06] I actually wanted to bring that up because I do have the PlayStation version as well here.

[00:04:11] And the other thing I love about the gecks long boxes.

[00:04:14] The entire gimmick is that like gecks ripped the box open and that's why like the disc is chill in there.

[00:04:20] Yeah, but with the PS1 release because obviously a PS1 jewel case doesn't look anything like this.

[00:04:27] Yeah, they edited it and it just looks stupid on the one.

[00:04:31] Looks like he's like like sitting next to a mini disk.

[00:04:35] This doesn't work.

[00:04:37] Yeah, because the 3DO jewel box they like just crop it.

[00:04:41] Yeah, pretty rough pretty roughly I may add one thing that I find really interesting though is on the back of the K of the long box.

[00:04:50] There's this whole like.

[00:04:52] Like blurb that that's written as if gecks wrote it and it's actually really entertaining like it's.

[00:04:59] Kiss his mother with that mouth the digitized voice of Dana gold headliner of his own HBO comedy special stars as gecks with rapid fire wise cracks and one liners gecks.

[00:05:11] Gecks his mouth gets him in trouble, but it's his thrashing tail that gets him out.

[00:05:16] Gecks gets stuck in the media dimension the place where cheesy 70s television shows.

[00:05:21] And movies go to retire to escape he's got a killing television in each world.

[00:05:26] Remember that bumper sticker.

[00:05:30] What?

[00:05:32] It's literally what it says I believe you I believe you and to further that the manual has like a whole short story called a bad TV day where it goes one two three four.

[00:05:50] So six pages detailing gecks his entire history like his family history while he's living where he is his television addiction like the death of his father.

[00:06:05] Like like the quote here is that that all changed though the day his mother got a call from NASA telling her the tragic news the rocket containing dad and 10 other volunteers chosen to see if they would eat tapioca putting in zero gravity.

[00:06:19] Had exploded on the launch pad you do a band aid floating in one of the fuel tanks the families care free upper middle class life was shattered.

[00:06:29] And that's that like like are they are they referencing challenger with that.

[00:06:36] Would they dare would they dare.

[00:06:40] And considering how unaware like overly aware this game tries to be it wouldn't surprise me.

[00:06:48] Yeah, it's very.

[00:06:51] It's borderline tasteless.

[00:06:54] Yeah, there's a level later in the game that is very questionable.

[00:07:03] I know the one you're talking about will get that.

[00:07:06] Yeah, look at it's some depends on your how you view it but um.

[00:07:13] This this game is a to call it a period piece would be um.

[00:07:19] Yeah, it's it's the all that of the 3DO.

[00:07:26] If you've ever gone back and watched like the original all that it is very of its time.

[00:07:33] I just got all that ruined for me recently because.

[00:07:37] I decided to watch um quiet quiet on the set.

[00:07:42] Yeah, yeah.

[00:07:44] It's so weird when that happened I was like I thought we all knew we did see the dance night or stuff that didn't affect me.

[00:07:52] I was like yeah, I knew that and then I found out fucking pickle boy was a fucking raging pedophile and I was like fuck.

[00:07:58] Oh yeah, yeah, that part yeah, that was like yeah.

[00:08:04] You may be talking about that on G and C within a few weeks more on that later.

[00:08:09] You guys have fun with that. I don't want to talk about it anyways.

[00:08:14] Well, I haven't even seen quite on the set so I can't say but in any case uh yeah, Gex finally what we knocked out plumbers don't wear ties one of the big ones.

[00:08:24] So I think it felt natural to knock out another one of the big ones one that I had been dying to play for a good while.

[00:08:32] The systems quote unquote killer app as they say.

[00:08:38] One of the killer apps I would say I'd say it's one of them and people would say like oh this this is like the 3DO's mascot.

[00:08:46] And I would argue there's a different game that feels more like the 3DO's mascot than this maybe it's because Gex kind of moved past the 3DO you know and kind of became a small little series on its own unlike the PlayStation and the Saturn and the 1064 and just learning today there were Game Boy color versions of 2 and 3.

[00:09:07] Yep, they're actually maybe worth talking about in the future that's all I'll say.

[00:09:12] Oh yeah, I imagine we will come back to the Gex games because there's there's a lot to talk about.

[00:09:18] I mean, there's quite a bit of talk about this guy already you know so this Geico car insurance salesman looking at us.

[00:09:26] Yeah, um so if you notice closely on the box very we mentioned it previously but uh those guys right there.

[00:09:36] Crystal Dynamics for audio listeners, this is their it's not their first game but it's their first to major game.

[00:09:43] It's the game that kind of broke them through the like I guess the low ceiling that was there for developers I guess.

[00:09:52] Yeah, Gex is an interesting one like I was actually looking into some of the people behind it.

[00:10:00] Um one in name in particular stuck out right away programmers for this game there was Greg tavers and then the one that I noticed immediately Evan Wells who nowadays maybe better known as the co president of naughty dogs so.

[00:10:17] Well, I know him for working on to jam an aeropanic and funco show that as well he's a he's been around and.

[00:10:24] He's made some pretty good stuff back in his day.

[00:10:27] Oh yeah, oh yeah like he as you said he was there for all most of the major naughty dog stuff so it would make sense.

[00:10:36] Also I found this interesting it doesn't surprise me but it should be noted that um the writers for this game were Robert Cohen and uh Gex's voice Dan a gold was a writer on this game.

[00:10:51] Yeah pretty expectively honestly.

[00:10:53] And it makes sense for its you know very of its time kind of humor as well yeah um to call this game dated is under selling it.

[00:11:07] Yeah in terms of writing I should say for sure for sure for sure it's basically I guess the plot of the game is that Gex is watching TV right after his round of nude fucker says yes yes he is he is a couch potato like even in the little short story in here.

[00:11:28] It talks about how the death of his father caused him to just start like watching the TV because it was like a way to get away from all of that you know that grief I guess to the point where his mom kicked him out because he was watching too much TV and then became like some weird like homeless guy on the streets or something and then.

[00:11:48] His mom finds him in a limo and she's like hey well like our uncle died or whatever and he had like ninety eight billion dollars and we just inherited that so.

[00:11:59] They reunited and then Gex took his share and is now living in this like slump shitty apartment we just watch his TV all day and somebody by the name of res who I guess lives in the TV like he's the TV's villain or something i'm not quite sure but he gets captain.

[00:12:18] And like straight into the TV or even comic zone into the TV and now he must fight his way back out and the other way he can get back out is by defeating res he gets a cheat of men pulled in directly by the balls.

[00:12:33] Yeah this game is kind of pulling you by the balls on that regard i'm surprised Gex doesn't say anything like that here.

[00:12:43] Yeah the opening cinematic so unlike Gex to in three this game has just like two CGI cutscenes one at the beginning one at the end.

[00:12:53] They look fairly still pretty good for 90 CGI i'm not going to lie reminds me of D.

[00:13:01] But this has more character than D it looks better than D I'll say that like it's still yeah.

[00:13:08] I will say like the so I played both the PlayStation and.

[00:13:13] Radio version for this episode the CGI definitely looks better on the PlayStation version they probably just use the higher quality video file most likely I played the 3d version and then a long time ago I am related the Saturn version as well so but it's been so long since I played that I can't really comment.

[00:13:34] But my guess is the Saturn version is comparable to the original PlayStation version that would be my guess from what I remember from what i've seen i've watched a few video comparisons.

[00:13:45] From what it looks like all the versions are pretty much identical the resolution may be a little higher on the s1 pc versions.

[00:13:56] Other than that though gameplay wise they're pretty similar.

[00:14:01] Yeah I did have some issue with the 3d version but we'll get to that maybe in a little bit.

[00:14:11] But yeah where did you first hear about gex um so I first heard about gex back in the day as a kid i had a friend who had.

[00:14:24] Gex 64 which is gex to on everything else for the person 64 and he would play that a lot.

[00:14:35] And I remember watching and being like oh it's a gecko that runs around in the 60 n64 version of gex to is not the way to play that game by a long shot i've heard that.

[00:14:47] He's missing most of his dialogue and it doesn't run nearly as well but that's how I discovered gex and I ended up renting the ps1 version of gex enter the gecko and I end up liking it but.

[00:14:58] I had never so because it was called gex enter the gecko i didn't realize there it was a sequel to anything so I kind of played that one.

[00:15:07] And then forgot about it after for years it's weird it's not called gex to but maybe because it was kind of breaking from the 3d owned.

[00:15:16] Becoming its own thing maybe they just didn't want to put gex to on it to make people go back and play the first one maybe it's it's an old trick.

[00:15:26] That people have with with games or other media it's like oh if we you know for doing like a reboot I don't know if the gecko is really a reboot but if they're.

[00:15:36] Getting to a point where it's like hey let's not put a number on this because people will most likely jump into this one thinking it's the first one.

[00:15:43] You know yeah like I learned about gex weirdly enough through that same AVGN video where he talks about plumbers still where ties I believe.

[00:15:54] Because he does a little thing about the 3DO at the start and he mentions he's like there are some good games on the 3DO and one of them he shows his gameplay of gex now it's like oh that looks kind of neat and then.

[00:16:07] Just over the years I was able to eventually find it and I played a bit of it and and I was like huh not bad you know kind of interesting and then it became a bit of a meme through i don't know if Scott the was started the gex meme.

[00:16:22] He started the gex to me many ways the whole it's gex night yeah he probably.

[00:16:29] Cause the resurgence in the meme of gex because gex is kind of a memeable character like in way similar to sonic but because he doesn't have the same popularity as sonic it just doesn't hit the same way you know like if you're making jokes about gx you you're in the know.

[00:16:48] See gex maybe not sonic so much I think gex is more memeable in comparison to like bubzy only differences gex's games are actually good.

[00:16:56] Yeah yeah I think I was saying somebody to somebody in a discord a while ago that bubzy to me.

[00:17:03] Is what I assume people who don't like sonic think sonic is.

[00:17:08] Yeah because bubzy bubzy controls like shit and those games aren't really any fun at all I don't see the appeal the best and when I and when I play bubzy when i'm playing it i'm like oh this is probably what like people who claim sonic was never good think sonic is.

[00:17:25] Yeah you know when I when it's like but if you compare bubzy to sonic sonic is so much better yeah in like every facet I just I don't get it.

[00:17:35] The best bubzy game to me is pause on fire and that's just because it's it's it's literally just bit trip runner that's it.

[00:17:42] Is that the second bubzy game that's the second new one.

[00:17:48] Yeah they did the holy shit yeah they did two new ones the first one was very average platformer that played fine but was boring.

[00:17:58] The second one was legitimately just bit trip runner.

[00:18:01] Yes the original one is clause is bubzy and clause encounters of the third kind which is such a terrible name yeah then there's.

[00:18:09] Two bubzy fractured furry tails.

[00:18:13] Now the Jaguar game is not just bubzy to.

[00:18:19] There's no thing yeah there's two and then the Jaguar had the the furry tails one.

[00:18:24] And then bubzy 3d or bubzy is 3d in for.

[00:18:28] Planned it.

[00:18:30] And then and then yeah there was the woolly's strike back which when I heard bubzy was coming back i'm like these people have no shame man.

[00:18:38] No shame.

[00:18:41] And then learning that like accolade kind of existed or I think it was like UFO bot accolade i don't know.

[00:18:49] It was accolade in all in name only.

[00:18:52] Yeah okay yeah and then obviously woolly strikes back didn't do good at all so we can you gave a shit but I guess yes you said they did.

[00:18:59] Bit trip runner and pause on fire which I did not know this was a thing.

[00:19:04] Yeah I bought it just out of curiosity and I played I'm like this is just bit trip runner i'm like hey so it's good but it's just play bit trip runner exactly this.

[00:19:14] Exactly but yeah there's no there's no bubzy on 3d which is a shame I feel like it'd be a perfect fit.

[00:19:22] Yeah I know it would give the 3d another platformer yeah so I could sit here shit talking bubzy for an hour but everybody does that anyway.

[00:19:31] Yeah but gecks on the other hand is not a bad game.

[00:19:36] No no dare I dare I say I really liked it.

[00:19:43] It's really funny like so gecks has been through like multiple periods like there was this early time where like he was.

[00:19:52] People knew about him and they kind of liked this games overall and he was generally well received then he went through that period in like the 2000s where everyone just kind of like shat on him.

[00:20:02] Like I remember game informer at an art it was like one of those like one of their little side articles and it was like all these different mascots throughout the years.

[00:20:10] And you could do like this like choose your own like one of those like weird like graphs that you kind of pick the pathway of and you see where you end up.

[00:20:18] And I was a member because like you'd end up like one of them was like do you play as a like reptile kind of character and it was like Spyro and then gecks and it was like are your games good it's like it's a Spyro the first three were and then gecks it was just kind of like an uh.

[00:20:33] Yeah, I think it was that era where in the 2000s it felt like like game informer and all these other publications are trying to shit on a lot of the past video games like if you hadn't had that sort of success like say like a Mario or even like a Spyro the dragon or something like that like.

[00:20:53] It felt like people were just like all that's like old bullshit who cares right it's not the new the new thing right it was sort of that era where it was like before retro gaming was like cool.

[00:21:05] You know like playing old games was kind of like its own weird taboo but it's like just play the new stuff where you play in all the old stuff and then I think was in the 2010s where I think that comes around the time of any estonistalgia becoming a big deal.

[00:21:20] And like retro gaming becoming cool again and then you had developers starting to make a games that were more in that style.

[00:21:28] Couple that with also like Xbox live arcade being a big thing and there was a lot of old like older 2d style games released on there on the Wii where as well so it was it was just like that weird time where people were kind of shitting on 2d games in general I think yeah we're like 2d 2d games are kind of relegated to like Game Boy Advance.

[00:21:49] Kind of whatever stuff you know what I mean when even looking back at like those games on GBA and even DS like those games are fantastic as well.

[00:21:58] I think just as a I guess the gaming industry as a whole has gotten better with like appreciating 2d games for what they are I think I think we've gotten into a better spot yeah honestly now they kind of stand on their own next to 3d games and they're like both kind of their own separate things.

[00:22:17] Yeah the only time it becomes a talking point is if say like a metric red comes out that 60 bucks and then people are like oh should a 2d game be $60 and it's like I mean if you don't want to pay 64 it well it's Nintendo fuck fuck you I guess yeah.

[00:22:31] You get it used for like 40 later.

[00:22:35] Well no it's Nintendo that things going to be 60 forever.

[00:22:39] I know you buy a used copy.

[00:22:41] For like 40 bucks or something yeah so yeah it's there's a certain group of gamers who find 2d games weird and they just they just don't like them.

[00:22:54] You know it's the same kind of people who like won't watch black and white movies because they're in black and white which those people make my skin crawl like the disgusting creatures.

[00:23:04] You miss an ounce I'm good cinema.

[00:23:06] So gex going into gex won itself so gex one is actually to me like a very interesting platformer in a lot of ways because gex is a gecko his gimmick is he can stick to walls and ceilings and in a 2d platform that kind of changes like the idea of like how levels progress in like a lot of ways.

[00:23:33] Gex finds a way of mixing the sort of traditional 2d platforming elements that were established with Mario and later with Sonic like those two are like in this era those are the two big.

[00:23:47] Platformers right and then you have like all the beat ears your bubsies your gexes your era the acro bats your zool's you know all cool spot I could keep going like a bunch of those right.

[00:24:00] And and and gex finds a way of mixing say like there's definitely a Mario influence there's definitely a sonic influence but it also is able to bring in as you said fresh elements with the like the wall climbing.

[00:24:15] And not just the wall climbing of like your standard like you know I can go on the wall and go in the ceiling you can also climb on some of the walls in the background.

[00:24:25] Yes as well and as the game progresses the level design becomes more and more built around that so there are certain like sections of levels or even like whole levels where you're basically just attached to the wall of the whole time.

[00:24:39] So you sort of have to figure your way around the level in sort of a slightly different way than just your standard just running to the right which is really cool.

[00:24:49] And the levels have kind of amazing design but they're not that bad you know there they're I guess maybe they operate kind of in like a sonic way where there's like different layers but they all kind of tunnel toward the same exit anyways.

[00:25:04] So you know there's a lot of different layers but they have kind of some alternate.

[00:25:09] Yes yeah it's like a sonic to kind of thing I think especially when the game is like oh in each level you have to find this specific item which I believe is a remote control to access like another level.

[00:25:22] And you first see that or least for me I thought oh is this going to be a platform where it's going to be like super hidden and I have to like go around every little corner to find it I was I was glad that I was wrong.

[00:25:34] And that the game the levels kind of tunnel you into finding that remote control pretty quickly so that you can you know get back get back out of the exit move on to the next level like none of the levels are crazy long.

[00:25:47] No not at all there is a lot of levels though which makes up for it.

[00:25:52] Not as many as say like you know like say like a Mario game you know Mario games are usually packed with levels but yeah thankfully this one yeah it has I think just the right amount like not too much not too little you know you can tell that like this really is showing off crystal dynamics talent as a developer because I think the games before this they did were

[00:26:16] they don't crash in bird they did solar eclipse yeah solar eclipse they did the port of a summer I show down they did off did they do off road and you're up there.

[00:26:28] Yeah off world in this up to that yeah like.

[00:26:31] Gex was their fourth game ironically Gex was the game that showcased their 2D capabilities yeah like well because everything else they were doing was like vehicle based games.

[00:26:41] Yeah vehicle lights or yeah vehicle or flight games yeah basically and there you know kind of a mixed bag I would say so with Gex is like a completely different genre but it feels like to me the devs had a lot of experience in playing like it's a Mario world and like Sonic's like one through three and probably some of the other platforms at the time I mean they were everywhere back then.

[00:27:07] And you get the sense that crystal kind of studied.

[00:27:11] All of those games are like how do we like make one that kind of fits in you know sticks out in its own way but at the end of the day is still a really good game you know it isn't perfectly with the times which is I think what makes it is what makes it

[00:27:26] a lot of people with all like the jokes and everything but I was surprised that sitting down and playing the game properly and beating the whole thing there is a secret world I could not get to unfortunately which is a bit more of a Mario world influence having that kind of secret world despite that I was surprised that the game is pretty good like pretty damn good for what it is.

[00:27:49] It's a very solid platformer like to me like what makes this game such a well designed game is most most platformers you play they're going to have frustrating sections that's just kind of how platformers are but there was never a point in this game where I was like that's bullshit and I just like raged out like I found most things to be generally

[00:28:13] movable yeah there was frustration is going to happen with any game just sometimes things just don't jive with your style but the only levels that I found kind of on the frustrating side was well all the various worlds I guess we can say there's the you start out in a cemetery kind of area and then you go into like new cartoon land yeah

[00:28:36] and then you go into like a jungle kind of area and then you do like a I think they call it kung fu hill or something yeah the questionable a little a little insensitive with like sumo like sumo wrestlers that you can bounce on their tummies there's like raiden everywhere like aster eels it's very in the music is kind of the music is probably the most yeah the Asian riff you know the Asian right.

[00:29:04] I will say gex's quotes weren't as bad as I was expecting he doesn't shut the fuck up though no we'll get to gex is talking later but I will say for that part he didn't say anything where I was like oh no like it was mostly the background itself that was kind of like oh no this is the 90s all right yeah I'll give gex credit in that he doesn't say anything that's like offensive or kind of off color he's just like making essentially like

[00:29:34] like 90s stand up kind of like referential humor you know like like when you fight the final boss he goes oh it's Darth Vader is younger brother miren that's like what is there a joke there like or he's like this guy's nuts have you been have you been on her although yet which that's a dated ass reference I know that reference like you know I know all one piece of shit but

[00:30:00] one of his ending quotes is like Obi-Wan says that this one is strong or something it's like okay all of this for rose by

[00:30:10] I believe I'll I believe the best review I've ever seen for this game was like well referring to the comedy in it it was like this game was dated when it came out

[00:30:20] you for real for real it's just a very specific kind of

[00:30:24] referential like pre family guy referential type of humor you know and

[00:30:31] And it's a shame that like I'm such a fucking nerd that I know some of these outdated references that I shouldn't

[00:30:36] And also every once in a while I would giggle but it was it's more of like a lot of things when I laugh at him I just laugh at how bad it is

[00:30:46] You know and that's and that's one of the parts about gex I didn't care for is that he just doesn't know when to shut up

[00:30:53] You know that's like like that feels like a sonic thing because sonic was known for having like oh he's like a cool dude. He's got attitude blah blah blah

[00:31:02] And gex is like oh we'll take that one step further than sonic because sonic knows when to be serious

[00:31:09] You know like they know when to play it up and be silly but then they know when to like say when he's fine robot

[00:31:15] Nicky takes it seriously

[00:31:16] Whereas gex doesn't take a damn thing in the seriously

[00:31:20] And it's like dude if you fuck this up you're stuck here forever

[00:31:24] Yeah, I'll save it for when we talk about the ending because I love his quote at the end of the game

[00:31:29] But um

[00:31:31] That's a good quote

[00:31:32] Literally um like

[00:31:34] Throughout the game gex just fucking doesn't give a shit and I kind of like it at in a sense too

[00:31:40] Because I kind of enjoy the fact that he's a he's a protagonist of a game that doesn't care about anything going on right now

[00:31:47] For like modern gaming standards. It's kind of refreshing

[00:31:51] To not have these crazy emotional weights tied to everything, you know, it's nice

[00:31:57] Um and very silly

[00:32:00] You know but but but the silliness can wear on you

[00:32:03] It's more the report

[00:32:05] Once he starts repeating quotes and then you kind of oh yeah

[00:32:08] Yeah, cuz I imagine there's only so many they could fit say on the disc or so many that they could just think up

[00:32:14] You know yeah, especially in a 2d game in the 3d games he has a bit more more variety overall

[00:32:21] Um like I will say like some of my favorites are like in the the graveyard

[00:32:26] So the way every level like world is set up is like you have this kind of hub

[00:32:30] With a bunch of um

[00:32:33] Different levels and you have to get remote store lock more levels

[00:32:36] but um

[00:32:37] When he's in these little hover worlds, he'll say like these are random quotes like my one of my favorites is in the in the graveyard

[00:32:43] He'll be like hey school. Let's find the mystery van

[00:32:46] Jay school. Let's get back to the mystery van like he's doing a shaggy impression

[00:32:51] Yeah, like a bad shaggy impression

[00:32:53] Yeah, yeah, it's so fucking weird man and then a later one in like the more prehistoric ish kind of overworld

[00:32:59] He goes like will not

[00:33:02] He did I'm like what the hell is wrong?

[00:33:06] You man it's like

[00:33:08] I think Danagold was just doing his standup half the time

[00:33:12] I guess I've never seen Danagold standup

[00:33:14] So I cannot say if he's any good or not. I doubt any of his fans will attack us

[00:33:19] The most I know about Danagold was a gax and that he was a writer on the Simpsons for a while not during the good era

[00:33:28] That's great

[00:33:31] Now it's oh, that's right. This is

[00:33:35] This is one of two games. I know for the 3DO that are focused around a standup comedian

[00:33:42] Yes, because there's another it's not really a game though

[00:33:45] It's just a thing. I don't know if we'll ever cover it on the show

[00:33:49] So I guess I'll mention it here. Have you heard of Dennis Miller's that news to me?

[00:33:55] I know of it. I've never played it though

[00:33:57] So it's not really a game per se like I think Dennis Miller was on snl

[00:34:03] And he was doing weekend update at the time

[00:34:07] And I believe it's just a collection of some of his like weekend update stuff

[00:34:13] Like just on a 3DO disc and it's not just kind of centered around him and

[00:34:20] And I played it out. I think on emulator and I was just like what like what is what why is this

[00:34:27] What it is, you know what I mean

[00:34:30] I don't know like I guess I guess Dennis Miller is known for like

[00:34:34] Being like a political commentator comedian kind of guy. He's like he's like John Stewart but not as good

[00:34:40] Yeah

[00:34:41] So that's my that's my guess

[00:34:44] But I don't know. I'm not trying to shit on Dennis Miller, but it just

[00:34:49] It was so weird. That was a thing that happened

[00:34:52] Yeah

[00:34:53] The 3DO had a lot of games like

[00:34:55] Well, I wouldn't even call him games though

[00:34:58] Like they're just like software

[00:35:01] Yeah

[00:35:02] What's funny to me is um I was just noticed this too

[00:35:05] I'm looking at the uh

[00:35:06] The box

[00:35:07] This is a rare 3DO game that actually has an ESRB reading

[00:35:12] Oh

[00:35:13] Interesting. Yeah, KDA that that's about right for that game. What's funny though is yes one version is eat

[00:35:21] Oh, yeah, because they switched to E I think in like 96

[00:35:25] Yeah, they dropped they dropped KDA because it was too broad

[00:35:30] Yeah, well and KDA is too much

[00:35:32] Yeah, it's too

[00:35:34] It's too much to think about like kids do adults where it's just like E it's like oh, it's for everyone

[00:35:38] Yeah easier to think about and then they had well yeah, I think it was E it was KATM

[00:35:45] They swapped

[00:35:47] KATM they I think added EC in like the mid 2000s I think around the same time

[00:35:53] They added the E 10 plus rating for EC. I think was actually around earlier because there was

[00:35:58] entertainment games on like ps1 in the 90s that had that okay

[00:36:02] Okay, yeah, that that would make a lot of sense. They've actually dropped it if they don't use it anymore at all

[00:36:07] Really I

[00:36:09] I thought there were still games that get EC but it's just very rarely

[00:36:13] Now they dropped it entirely because they basically pointed out that most of those games are qualify as E for everyone anyways

[00:36:19] So they just figured

[00:36:22] Like you don't have to rate assess a mystery game EC like we know what assess a mystery game is

[00:36:27] See the one EC game I own that I can think of off the top of my head is like Raymond brain games on ps1

[00:36:35] Interesting interesting and then I did they have aO at the start

[00:36:40] They've had aO since the start the reason why aO is kind of weird is that it's

[00:36:45] Sony

[00:36:46] Sega and Nintendo and then later Microsoft

[00:36:49] Basically made it packed that they would never allow an aO game on their systems

[00:36:54] And I believe all of the major retailers heavy said they won't stock aO games because the most infamous aO game

[00:37:03] Which is hilarious because it's not it's kind of a joke if you actually play it nowadays was a thrill kill

[00:37:08] Which was a 3d fighting game that like the developers went out of their way to get an aO rating because they thought that would

[00:37:15] Boot sales and then they found out shit

[00:37:17] We can't release it on any console because they won't let us

[00:37:20] Well, and then they toned it down to an M and then I never got released

[00:37:24] Yeah, it got canceled and its engine was later used in that WuTang clan

[00:37:28] Showlin fighters game. Yeah with that terrible WuTang clan um controller

[00:37:33] Yeah

[00:37:36] Yeah, I love hey, I love who I love the I love the WuTang but

[00:37:40] It's a weird thing. I think they're making a new WuTang game

[00:37:44] Like a like an action RPG thing. I haven't heard about it in the while

[00:37:48] I can check in on it you can find the ROM for throw kill online

[00:37:52] It is you played if you want. It's fine

[00:37:54] It is laughable that back out an aO rating

[00:37:56] It different times. Yeah, different times um

[00:38:00] I was gonna say technically the most notorious aO game is a GTA San Andreas

[00:38:05] Yes, only the PC version

[00:38:09] Well, well when they found well when everybody found out about the hot coffee mod

[00:38:14] They re they re rated it aO and so they had to pull it from all the shelves

[00:38:20] And so because of that

[00:38:22] Rockstar made a second edition of San Andreas where they completely removed it

[00:38:27] So you may see copies if you're out in the retro store right and you and you go into like the ps2 section

[00:38:33] Look at the copies of San Andreas some of them may say second edition on it

[00:38:36] Which means there's no way to access the hot coffee mod

[00:38:40] It at all which is crazy because even in the original version you could only access it through hacking the game

[00:38:46] Yeah, so it wasn't even like

[00:38:48] Easy to get there was just people found out about it and because GTA was already on such kind of thin ice with these people anyways

[00:38:55] It was it was just it was the catalyst to try to fuck with it

[00:38:59] I love the hot coffee mod in hindsight just because it is the dumbest fucking it's just too fully-closed models company

[00:39:06] It's the equivalent of having like a Barbie and a GI Joe do this. Yeah, it is

[00:39:10] It's the same thing that's all it looks like

[00:39:14] Uh oh man hunt 2 got an aO for the PC version

[00:39:18] Oh yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah

[00:39:20] The only other one I can think of yeah outside of that it's just porn games

[00:39:25] That's basically okay. So like I bet you I bet you like is honey pop to

[00:39:31] AO probably is I'd have to look so you can find a ton of aO games if you go on steam without safe search on

[00:39:41] Have fun without kids. I will say I typed in honey pop on ESR being gotten nothing

[00:39:46] They probably don't know what it is

[00:39:50] Because you can't search by like

[00:39:53] um

[00:39:54] The ratings because yeah, you have ee 10 tm aO and then they have

[00:39:59] rating pending and I like this one rating pending likely mature

[00:40:03] I like that. Yeah, they're like yeah, we know

[00:40:07] That's like probably I like the GTA 6 trailer probably had that on there

[00:40:11] But it's like yeah, we know that's still my favorite like I still my favorite part one last

[00:40:16] Tangi before we get back to gecks

[00:40:17] One of my favorite parts of the ratings though is like the little like

[00:40:20] Descriptions on the back of why he got the rating oh

[00:40:23] Yeah, and when there's nothing there they just say oh visit our website

[00:40:27] Yeah, my favorite one still by far though is um metal gear solid five ground zeroes had

[00:40:34] One of the tags for why it was emberated was a sexual violence

[00:40:39] Which um the funniest

[00:40:42] Interaction I ever had with a parent

[00:40:44] Um at a game stuff was there was in mom that was trying to buy a game for her kid and she was

[00:40:50] Considering GTA. I mean metal gear solid five ground zeroes

[00:40:54] But she was trying to ask that the employee I don't know parents and kids. I'll never understand but um

[00:41:00] She was asking the employee like what is sexual violence in the game and

[00:41:05] And uh the employee had never played it and I had so I was sitting there going like do I tell her

[00:41:11] Do it do it um because she was like but I always laugh because the way she was asking the employee was she was like

[00:41:17] He was like was it like a bitch slap

[00:41:19] Like

[00:41:20] That was her her her idea of sexual violence. I think that I don't know about that

[00:41:26] Um, but then I had to go up to the her and pull her side be like so there's a point in the game where one of the characters has a bomb in her vagina

[00:41:35] Oh

[00:41:37] And she immediately went

[00:41:39] Okay, not this game and I was just like

[00:41:41] I was like I am sorry and thank you for your time

[00:41:44] Yeah, get him chicken shoot or something yeah, get him get him gags well gags isn't available yet

[00:41:50] Yeah, I just I was like

[00:41:53] When I saw her like considering middle gear solid five

[00:41:55] I was like I'm like that is not the franchise for a kid especially

[00:41:59] That's just trying to they won't get bored in the opening cutscene alone

[00:42:09] That's so true

[00:42:12] Oh ground zero as a boy um

[00:42:15] But

[00:42:16] Yeah, yeah like like I remember when I was getting to that certain age where I was like one to play those m games

[00:42:22] But my parents were just like yeah, whatever. They just kind of stopped caring

[00:42:26] So like whenever I would get one of those games the the guy would be like well, I have to tell you which mature and my parents always said

[00:42:32] Oh he's seen worse and I'm always like what the fuck do they think I've seen worse

[00:42:37] Like probably the other game they bought me

[00:42:41] Yeah, I didn't my parents were more strict about that. I didn't get emery to games to like 317

[00:42:46] Yeah, yeah, but like say like I'm playing say no more here is 3 right

[00:42:51] Like this game earns its mature rating. I can

[00:42:57] Oh boy

[00:42:59] Alright anyways back to gags. I don't know why we did such a thing with the the srb rating

[00:43:03] Yes, or we have a blog like who the fuck reads that anyways

[00:43:08] um

[00:43:09] But yeah, well, what else were we saying about gags?

[00:43:12] We didn't talk about the power ups and I find the power ups very interesting throughout the levels

[00:43:16] There's one thing I like about them one thing. I found interesting

[00:43:19] I don't know if you saw this but with all the the various power ups, right

[00:43:23] You have two options to collect them or kind of like you can use

[00:43:28] Like your your main attack is uh gecks whipping his tail right to kill enemies and all that makes perfect sense

[00:43:35] And with all the power ups it doesn't matter the power up

[00:43:38] If you hit it if you hit it with your tail, it just gives you a hit point

[00:43:43] Yes, no matter what

[00:43:44] But but if you actually want to use the power up you have to then use gags as tongue

[00:43:49] So you actually like eat the power up and get it which could be either say it gives him more hit points

[00:43:55] Completely fills up this hit points um let you like shoot fireballs out of your mouth

[00:44:00] You think where n gags goes that's a spicy meatable

[00:44:03] Yeah, he says that um

[00:44:05] There's the uh like he can run super fast

[00:44:08] Um, he can jump higher

[00:44:11] Like there's quite a few power ups

[00:44:12] But I found most of them outside of like ones improving your health to be completely useless

[00:44:19] They were situational at best like the yeah

[00:44:21] The one that shoots fireballs was kind of useful

[00:44:24] But you never got it in a place where it really helped

[00:44:27] Yeah, the most useful one was there was a specific

[00:44:30] I forget the exact level but there was a specific situation where there was a bunch of TVs

[00:44:35] And it gives you the lightning power up so you could just shoot lightning and I was just spamming the the lightning at the tv's

[00:44:41] And they were just blown up like crazy

[00:44:43] And allowed me to clear through that whole thing without taking a hit

[00:44:46] That was probably the most use I got out of one of the like attack kind of power ups

[00:44:50] But outside of that getting ones that upgrade you to say, you know four or five hit points is nice

[00:44:55] It's a shame you can't carry it with you

[00:44:57] Yeah, throughout the whole game

[00:44:59] But it would probably make the game a little too easy

[00:45:02] Because I think the difficulty of this game it's not really that difficult

[00:45:06] No

[00:45:07] Like there's there's ways early on of just completely

[00:45:11] Of getting like 30 plus lives like pretty easy

[00:45:15] You know finding spots to farm

[00:45:17] One-ups

[00:45:18] But what sucks is if you save the game turn it off and turn it back on it resets your live counterback to three

[00:45:23] It's got mario logic

[00:45:25] Yeah another mario influence thing which is which is annoying

[00:45:29] But you know it is what it is

[00:45:31] Speaking of saving I did want to bring this up

[00:45:34] The saving sucks pain in my ass

[00:45:39] It's not great

[00:45:40] But I will bring it up because

[00:45:43] One of the reasons why Gexon 3DOs considered the definitive version

[00:45:47] Is because of how it handles saving

[00:45:49] In

[00:45:51] The ps1 version they got rid of the save built-in save feature and replaced it with a password screen

[00:45:58] Why the ps1 had memory cards why why would they do

[00:46:03] Never understand does the Saturn one save I don't

[00:46:07] No, I've never played the Saturn version

[00:46:10] I'd have to we have to check

[00:46:12] Well, that's Rick he has it

[00:46:14] Oh, yes. Yes, Rick please let us know if Sega Saturn Gex saves

[00:46:18] But yeah, how this game saves it's very weird there's two ways to do it one I think isn't

[00:46:24] Completely like guaranteed to save but the second one is the first way to save is that you get to save the boss of the level

[00:46:31] You beat it move on to the next level in the manual. It says the game saves

[00:46:37] And finicky I think sometimes yes

[00:46:41] The true way to save is that some levels like all the levels when you're on like the map have like a little TV screen

[00:46:47] And the TV screen is like the level and some of them have a vcr under the under the TV

[00:46:53] And so that basically tells you oh when you go in here

[00:46:56] You can find like a vhs tape

[00:46:58] And if you find the vhs tape and are able to beat the level with the vhs tape it saves

[00:47:03] And it saves every time I didn't have any issues with it in fact

[00:47:08] If any of you want to play gags on the 3d.0

[00:47:11] To save the easiest way to save is go to the level called tomato soup

[00:47:17] In the graveyard level or the graveyard area

[00:47:21] It's a pretty it's a pretty easy level but at the very end the vhs tape is right next to the x

[00:47:27] So there's no weird if you can make it that far just grab it and leave and it saves no problem

[00:47:34] So that's a little tip for you guys out there

[00:47:36] Yeah, it's not the most convenient saving method of all time but it's no

[00:47:42] For what it is and it works sometimes well one method works

[00:47:46] I will say I will say it's better than say mario world because I correct me if i'm wrong

[00:47:52] But in mario world you can't save whenever you want it only saves after a castle

[00:47:57] After a castle and I think after

[00:48:01] There was one other instance I think it's saved but I can't remember off the top yeah

[00:48:06] But beyond that there's no way of actually going in and saving on your own because

[00:48:10] Because at least with gags you can kind of finesse it with that one specific level

[00:48:15] To where you're like oh, I'm done. Let me just beat the shovel real quick save and then I can get out of here

[00:48:20] Yeah, which is nice

[00:48:22] And I don't know if crystal intended that or maybe they were like oh, let's just do that as a little nice thing that people will find

[00:48:29] I don't know if that was intentional that was nice of them

[00:48:34] Um what just did a curiosity yet the demo in the background there doesn't show it but what do you think of the death animation?

[00:48:40] Oh, where he just like comes at you. Yeah, he falls from the top of the screen

[00:48:44] Yeah, like his mouth that like you go in his mouth. Yeah

[00:48:48] Finally, I'll tell you what my son told me he's like dad. I don't like that

[00:48:54] Yeah, it is a little off putting the first time you see it yeah, yeah, it's weird

[00:48:59] I didn't care for it but it is what it is

[00:49:02] Just especially because it's silent like he just falls towards the screen and then that's it

[00:49:08] Yeah, yeah, and I think it's for me it didn't hit as hard. It's probably because

[00:49:13] Gex isn't taking any of this seriously so why the hell should I? Yeah, you know what you know what I mean

[00:49:18] Ah sorry

[00:49:21] That that that's sort of my feeling on it I guess

[00:49:24] Yeah, but it's weird. Yeah, I guess we can go from there like the sound and music like the sound design the music

[00:49:31] I like the soundtrack. It's catchy

[00:49:34] It's good. It's not stand outish

[00:49:37] But it's not bad at all. It's it's perfectly fine. I still love it. It's no it's no earthworm gym. That's a great soundtrack

[00:49:45] It's you know out of

[00:49:47] So for generic platform former music, I think it works very well

[00:49:54] um

[00:49:55] Like the graveyard theme that first level music track that still like uh sticks with me all the time

[00:50:00] Like I love the catchiness like the kind of keyboard sound in the background

[00:50:04] Yeah, yeah, I totally get that

[00:50:07] Um some of the later levels are pretty good too

[00:50:10] It's it's serviceable music like none of it is

[00:50:14] Bad in my opinion like there's nothing I hated um

[00:50:18] But none of it is like

[00:50:21] Like I'm not pursuing this like for like my phone or something to listen to it work

[00:50:27] Yeah, when you're when basically when you're trying to compare this to say mario and sonic's music

[00:50:32] No, doesn't hold a candle at all even like crash bandicoot had had better music. Oh yeah

[00:50:38] Yeah, and crash was like right after this

[00:50:41] Yeah, so this was 95 crash was like right around the corner

[00:50:45] Yeah, and it's a weird how

[00:50:48] I wouldn't say they're too similar because crash is more of like an evolution into the 3d stuff

[00:50:53] But like crash kind of became one of these sort of like up there with mario and sonic

[00:50:58] I think at that time just because of he was the de facto

[00:51:03] um Sony mascot for better or worse

[00:51:06] So

[00:51:08] Yeah, honestly um

[00:51:12] So what do you think of like graphically like I thought you know for 32 bit like 2d game

[00:51:19] Mostly pre rendered sprites

[00:51:22] I thought it was pretty good. I liked it

[00:51:25] I think I think the game looks pretty salt. It's weird how it mixes

[00:51:30] um

[00:51:32] Hold on second

[00:51:33] It's weird how it mixes like 2d and 3d stuff because you have

[00:51:40] um

[00:51:41] Like gecks is I think they're donkey con country gecks

[00:51:44] So he's like a 3d model that they sort of turn into like a 2d sprite

[00:51:48] Yeah, not nearly as sophisticated as like the silicone graphics like

[00:51:53] dial that

[00:51:54] Uh, DKC used but like it looks fine enough for what it is yeah

[00:51:57] Yeah, and then everything else is like 2d sprite based like all the enemies the backgrounds

[00:52:02] All that stuff and I think it looks pretty good

[00:52:05] The game like when you for it has a little issue. I think with like color

[00:52:10] Because it feels like a lot of it just has like kind of earthy like greens and

[00:52:15] Yeah, browns and all that stuff

[00:52:17] There I mean like cartoon land as a good job with doing like funky colors and even resses layer has some interesting color stuff and the kung fuville

[00:52:25] but

[00:52:26] But a lot of the color palette is it it's not as bright in color for us you think it would be so my theory behind that this

[00:52:34] This is probably just an excuse and like isn't the actual reason

[00:52:38] but um

[00:52:40] The main gimmick of all the stages is they're supposed to be based off of 70s like movie themes

[00:52:45] And like movies in the 70s kind of had a more drab like color palette

[00:52:49] Yeah, like a sepia tone kind of thing

[00:52:52] Yeah, this is probably me just coming out

[00:52:55] Yeah, this is probably me reaching a lot but like that's kind of my theory on it

[00:53:00] No, I could see that

[00:53:03] I mean it doesn't look bad. It just kind of it looks very much like

[00:53:08] It has a look to it that kind of just like

[00:53:10] It does one thing and it kind of just does that one thing pretty decently. Yeah, but I will say it does stand out from the crowd

[00:53:18] Yeah, there's reason why gecks kind of stuck out at the time

[00:53:25] Is it because he doesn't shut the fuck up?

[00:53:27] Well

[00:53:28] Even

[00:53:29] I'd say like even beyond that because like most people noticed gecks right away just from like screenshots of it because it is a

[00:53:36] Breaking-looking game

[00:53:38] Yeah, I think it's because like if you look at him

[00:53:41] You know he's a he's a gecko. He's got the sunglasses

[00:53:44] He has like the cross-arms like sonic or whatever

[00:53:47] Like he has that sort of like

[00:53:50] standout cool attitude and I think

[00:53:53] being

[00:53:54] Like kind of pigeonhole as like the 3DO's de facto mascot

[00:53:58] I think did elevate him a little bit as well

[00:54:00] Yeah

[00:54:01] I also find it well he was also crystal dynamics mascot for a long time like he was

[00:54:06] Yeah, they're in their logo. I love this because he's like double logo there

[00:54:10] Yeah, but which I think that makes more sense that he would be there the logo of crystal dynamics

[00:54:15] It's a shame he's not anymore. It'd be cute if they still had his

[00:54:19] Like imagine like you buy like she like one of the two mariter games and they show crystal dynamics logo

[00:54:24] And there's just a little gax head right there

[00:54:26] I'd be for their for their anniversary

[00:54:28] I would love if they brought back this this classic logo

[00:54:31] Yeah, that'd be that would be cool if they brought that back

[00:54:34] But yeah, who knows I mean they might when they do the the gax trilogy thing

[00:54:39] Because they probably have to throw the crystal dynamics logo in there. So they might do that one

[00:54:44] Yeah, um, I was gonna say to

[00:54:48] Um, we kind of glossed over them but uh

[00:54:51] What what do you think of the boss fights in this game?

[00:54:55] Not bad

[00:54:56] Like an interesting mixture of

[00:54:59] Ideas in there like they all weren't the exact same boss fight

[00:55:02] They all had something kind of unique to them

[00:55:05] Like you have the first one in the the graveyard area, which is like the lady

[00:55:09] The ghost lady yeah the ghost lady kind of in the background with the skulls around her like she was pretty easy

[00:55:15] That was a cool because that kind of like harken

[00:55:17] That reminded me of like a castlevania boss fight where like the back

[00:55:20] Yeah, kind of like

[00:55:22] It's on like this like kind of like wheel and like it kind of like flows around you and the screen

[00:55:27] Yeah, yeah and I one shot at her

[00:55:30] Oh

[00:55:30] Which is awesome

[00:55:32] And then the the second boss in the cartoon land is

[00:55:35] What captain like flat shell s or something stupid like yeah you're right here reminded me of booger man

[00:55:42] You know to be fair but to be fair booger man lives in my head rent free

[00:55:45] And um that boss fight was a little more difficult for me like I was like I have no idea how to beat this guy

[00:55:51] And then I had a

[00:55:52] I had to check a walkthrough and how you beat him is you have to climb up to the ceiling and then like drop the anvil's on his head

[00:56:00] Which was cool. That was cool

[00:56:02] I like

[00:56:03] It's a unique idea for the boss

[00:56:05] Yeah, you have to think outside the box and you use gex's abilities in order to defeat him

[00:56:09] Which I thought was cool, you know

[00:56:11] It was a little obtuse but when you do it

[00:56:14] Oh, it makes sense, you know it was a cool way of doing it

[00:56:17] Skipping ahead a little but the final boss res I really liked the fighting its res

[00:56:24] It was okay

[00:56:26] I didn't I didn't like it. It's not my least favorite boss fight, but it wasn't as good

[00:56:31] I kind of like the idea of um

[00:56:34] You have to climb up the walls and you have to platform across the the television screens

[00:56:38] And then like you're actually over like a bottomless pit and you have to kind of like time out your uh

[00:56:43] Yeah

[00:56:45] And you have to like use your um collecting things with your tongue to get that specific fly

[00:56:49] That's the only thing that does damage to res it

[00:56:52] It does a good job of using all of gex's abilities in in the fight and everything you've learned up into that point

[00:56:59] I just don't think it really had that climactic feeling that a final boss fight should have

[00:57:04] Just just in my opinion, you know

[00:57:06] To be honest it felt a little generic

[00:57:09] To be honest the way the fight ends

[00:57:11] Perfectly encapsulates just how much gex it doesn't give a shit during this entire game

[00:57:17] Basically, yeah my favorite boss fight though is the one in the jungle area where you have to climb up

[00:57:24] That that really tall tower with that weird ball snake coming at you. I was getting like balls 3d flashbacks at that snake

[00:57:31] Um, but it was cool because you don't directly fight the boss

[00:57:34] You just have to traverse the top of the tower

[00:57:37] And then uh get the i think it was like a gorilla to knock all of those rocks down to completely obliterate the snake

[00:57:43] But I like that it was a it was a cool boss fight

[00:57:46] I enjoyed that one and then how shit what was the the kung fu area one?

[00:57:51] That was like the turtle guy, but

[00:57:53] Yeah, the turtle that turtle one kind of sucks

[00:57:55] Like he had a very weird pattern and I think he took way too many hits

[00:57:59] Yeah, he that was my least fair honestly. That's my least favorite level in the game a lot of ways

[00:58:05] Yeah, if felt by that point they were like

[00:58:09] Kind of running out of ideas or just maybe this idea wasn't the strongest one they had

[00:58:14] Did you notice that via remotes in that level were shaped like Japanese like archways?

[00:58:19] Oh, yeah, yeah, it's like wow. They're really going hard into this oh yeah different times man different times

[00:58:26] Oh, yeah

[00:58:27] But but but with ideas like this game has quite a few of them actually like it's not a game that's

[00:58:33] struggling to come up with

[00:58:35] interesting way interesting like levels and

[00:58:39] obstacles for the for the player to get through like no the game like knows what it wants to do

[00:58:44] And it does a very competent job of giving you like a good 2d platformer experience

[00:58:50] Especially on a console that doesn't really have that many 2d platformers

[00:58:54] You know, like even um, I think a will friend of the show will who's most mostly in the novel console discord

[00:59:01] He even asked me is like, you know, why is the 3DO not have them any 2d platformers and

[00:59:05] My guess was that the people making games for 3DO weren't thinking about that that they're like oh

[00:59:11] Those are probably on like the s and the s and genesis like we want to do something fresh with this new technology

[00:59:18] But I think gex is just a prime example of like

[00:59:22] 2d platformers are just really really good in general and the 3DO can do them well

[00:59:27] So why weren't there more of these, you know like the only other one we've played on this show up to this point

[00:59:33] I believe a soccer kid soccer kid. Yes and soccer kid is a really good

[00:59:38] Concept that wasn't executed very well. Yeah, so it's a fine game that just doesn't really

[00:59:45] It's fine enough, but it's not like anything you write home about exactly where's this?

[00:59:50] I think the concept of it is kind of

[00:59:53] Like not the strongest, but it's executed very very well

[00:59:58] Yeah, like get control wise gex like controls like a dream to me like he's like oh yeah one of the better

[01:00:05] Programmed this is a very solid feeling game like there was never a point right other than like

[01:00:11] Obviously like the 3DO inherently is no we'll discover it more as we go on

[01:00:17] But the 3DO and hailey is not the most powerful system on the world in the world

[01:00:21] now

[01:00:22] And gex does struggle a little bit at times to run it's just unfortunately a property of an aspect of the 3DO itself

[01:00:30] Yeah, that was sort of my biggest issue with gex is the the performance of the game

[01:00:35] Because yeah, the controls are great like he doesn't

[01:00:38] Try to copy Mario or Sonic's like control scheme because if you've ever played a lot of these

[01:00:44] Like lesser known platformer mascot games from this era a lot of them are just like copying Sonic

[01:00:50] Because it was like a hot shit at the time like that kind of style and it just doesn't really work because a lot of them don't

[01:00:56] Have that programming wizardry to make it work

[01:00:59] Um, and even the ones that try to copy Mario. It's like it's easier to do

[01:01:04] But again, it's like it just doesn't feel great where is gex he feels much more in a ways like much more modern like there's no real momentum

[01:01:12] To his movements like not he has a run button

[01:01:16] But

[01:01:17] You don't have to pick up speed or do any of that kind of more physicsy type of stuff you do with those other games

[01:01:23] Which in a way I think is is better because it allows this one to stand out and give you a different kind of experience with a platformer

[01:01:31] But yeah, it controls super like super tight like gex never felt unresponsive to me

[01:01:36] You know what kind of reminds me of it actually reminds me a bit of Rayman 1

[01:01:41] Yeah, I could see that

[01:01:43] You know that game has an aged nearly as well as gex has in my opinion

[01:01:47] Now Rayman 1 is a brutally hard game that is unashamed of how brutally hard it is

[01:01:52] It's a rough one. It's a rough one like

[01:01:56] I don't know that that'd be an interesting one to do in the future

[01:01:59] But um, it is

[01:02:01] That's a weird one then they make that didn't they put down the Jaguar

[01:02:04] It debuted on the Jaguar

[01:02:06] That's weird as fuck I own the Jaguar version. It is actually really impressive

[01:02:12] Yeah, because the game is beautiful

[01:02:14] Absolutely

[01:02:15] I think I have the GBA port of that and yeah, that game still looks amazing

[01:02:19] But it

[01:02:19] But yeah, that's that's kind of a weirder one

[01:02:21] I could see the the Rayman and I see like it being similar to Rayman

[01:02:25] But I think gex is a more fulfilling experience of a platformer

[01:02:29] Yeah, gex has like Rayman got better later

[01:02:33] Yeah, ironically both abandoned 2d to go to 3d right away

[01:02:38] And I've well and and I've never played either of these

[01:02:42] Either of those series 3d efforts. I've only ever done the 2d stuff

[01:02:46] So and with Rayman obviously I've done origins and legends and those two games are phenomenal

[01:02:53] Um, so I want to bring it up because the ending to this game is the most hilarious fucking thing ever

[01:02:59] Yeah, it's pretty wild

[01:03:01] Gex literally defeats res

[01:03:03] Boiler's for anyone who cares

[01:03:06] He beats the final boss. Yeah, if that is if that's a spoiler

[01:03:11] And then he literally gets shot back out of his out of the tv dimension

[01:03:16] Lans back in his couch exactly where he was and his response is just

[01:03:20] Okay cool. I wonder what's on HBO

[01:03:24] And then it goes right to credits

[01:03:27] Uh, it would have been fun if he said cinematics

[01:03:30] So I'd be like oh, we know why he's going to cinematics here that he earned it after that

[01:03:36] I just I loved it. I loved Anna Gold some delivery of okay cool

[01:03:41] Just like he's so nuncheon. He does not give a shit

[01:03:45] Like I could see that

[01:03:47] Rubbing some people the wrong way

[01:03:49] You know that like he's not taking this seriously at all

[01:03:52] But in a way, it's almost kind of his appeal

[01:03:55] In a way that it's so like they just lean into the just totally laws a fair sort of vibe

[01:04:03] You know that it becomes almost like parody

[01:04:06] The ending is so unfulfilling that it works for this game because Gex is such an

[01:04:12] I mean what you have a shit character

[01:04:14] Yeah, because you're playing it and I wasn't even thinking about how's this gonna end

[01:04:19] You know

[01:04:20] Like in a sense of like oh is the ending going to be satisfying. I might get probably won't be

[01:04:24] I'll just be satisfied that I beat the game, you know

[01:04:27] And it's it's from that kind of era where like your satisfaction is you beat the game

[01:04:32] I got honestly the laugh. I got from the nunchelot

[01:04:36] Okay, cool at the end literally made the entire experience worth it

[01:04:42] I could see that

[01:04:43] Because when that happened to me, I'm like you motherfucker

[01:04:47] Like you you like all the same nothing kind of thing like come on dude

[01:04:51] And like that's gonna bite you in the ass

[01:04:53] Well, I don't know the third game. He gets on gets it on with a pre rendered video woman so

[01:05:01] That's a boy

[01:05:03] Predating Sonic on that one yeah

[01:05:06] um

[01:05:08] So one other thing I have to bring up to is what do you think of the song at the end of the game?

[01:05:13] That song was kind of dope actually. Yeah guy liked it. That was my favorite tune in the whole game

[01:05:18] I wanted to use it as the credits for this episode, but I believe it has copyright in it and I don't

[01:05:25] So yeah

[01:05:26] Yeah, everybody listening like like just YouTube like the get the gecks like credits music or whatever

[01:05:33] And just listen to that tune. It is

[01:05:35] It's pretty good actually. I kind of like I might put it on my phone

[01:05:39] It is the most 90s like cheese you'll ever hear like people are just in the background going gecks

[01:05:46] gecks

[01:05:48] And it's like a soccer chant

[01:05:50] Yeah, like like go that go to the FC match and just start shouting gecks

[01:05:55] So one thing too I noticed gecks looks like he likes soccer doesn't he? He looks like a soccer guy

[01:06:00] Yeah, probably. I mean he likes he likes nude funkersize

[01:06:04] You got well yeah though if you like that you have to like soccer. It's no other option

[01:06:10] It's funny too because a lot of people are like they they always put gecks in that category of like edgy mascots from the night is like

[01:06:15] There's nothing edgy about gecks. Like nothing edgy. They they present him as edgy

[01:06:21] But in reality he he's about as edgy as like an internet shit poster

[01:06:26] Pretty I mean that's basically what he is if gecks was a modern platformer

[01:06:30] He would totally be a shit poster. Yeah, like I guarantee you this is like 95

[01:06:34] He was probably on some forums some internet forums spewing nonsense

[01:06:40] Like if you guys have ever looked at like archived 90s internet forum stuff

[01:06:45] It is it is amazing

[01:06:47] It was a very different time. Yes, and it's kind of awesome

[01:06:51] It's not as unhinged as things can be now though

[01:06:54] You know, it's more I hate to use this term. It's more real

[01:06:58] There's something more real about the way people presented themselves on the internet back then

[01:07:03] Yeah, honestly

[01:07:05] Yeah

[01:07:07] So yeah other than that though, there's not really much else to cover on gecks

[01:07:12] Other than it's it was a surprisingly good game

[01:07:15] Yeah, like there's a reason why it is considered like

[01:07:19] One of the reason it's there's a reason why it is like considered the 3d. It was like

[01:07:24] crowning achievement at times

[01:07:26] It's one of the marquee titles for sure

[01:07:29] So I guess

[01:07:30] Before we get into it

[01:07:31] We should probably talk about reception for this game at the time

[01:07:35] Yeah, I'm curious what did people think about gecks back then?

[01:07:38] So reception wise

[01:07:40] The 3d version got

[01:07:42] Very what good reviews overall like 4 out of 5 stars 8 point EGM gave it a 8.6

[01:07:50] 8.675

[01:07:53] Guys come on just give it a 9 come on

[01:07:56] Next generation gave it at 4 to 5 stars

[01:08:00] The the lowest rating ranked 3do review is CD CD player that's a that's a reviewing site for the time. Yeah

[01:08:08] Oh, they gave

[01:08:09] They gave it 6 out of 10

[01:08:12] A lot of the reviews I noticed that reviewed both the um

[01:08:16] The 3do and then later the ps1 Saturn versions tended to be a lot harsher with ps1 Saturn versions for whatever reason

[01:08:24] It is it just because it was a re-release and usually with three releases critics tend to be a little bit harsher

[01:08:29] The second time around yeah, it was probably that and it was probably was a different reviewer who didn't have the same taste

[01:08:34] It might have been yeah because yeah, this originally came out on the 3do in April 95

[01:08:41] And then the PlayStation version was December 95 as was the Saturn version

[01:08:45] And then it hit the p then it hit PCs in November of 96

[01:08:51] And funnily enough gecks was published by Microsoft on the PC version

[01:08:56] Hmm

[01:08:58] Another interesting one to his game informer gave it a 9.25

[01:09:03] reviewing the ps1 version, but that's still an interesting review like they like

[01:09:08] I don't get those like real deep and decimal points like at that

[01:09:12] Just use like a percentage system, you know, like oh, it's an 82 percent

[01:09:17] You know like like 0.5s are okay

[01:09:20] Like whenever i rate games like I do a 10 point scale, but I won't go like 825

[01:09:26] Like I have to commit to either it's an 8 and 8 or a half 8 and a half

[01:09:29] I'm not gonna go in the middle. I have to commit

[01:09:32] What's funny to me is um

[01:09:35] Most reviewers like highly praised like the gameplay the graphics like the levels

[01:09:40] um dana gold's performance

[01:09:42] But a lot of them like criticize the comedy is being

[01:09:44] Not good

[01:09:46] Yeah, but it's not enough to really weigh down the game in my opinion

[01:09:50] Well, especially in this game where it's very much just kind of a thing that

[01:09:54] It's when it's window dressing pretty much

[01:09:57] Um, I know in the sequels that's where he starts to get really zany with his like lines of dialogue

[01:10:04] Which yeah, I didn't find out the new jersey joke came from this game not gx. Oh, yeah

[01:10:08] Yeah, cuz I heard him say that he's like oh so this is what new jersey is or something when he gets to res

[01:10:14] This is layer. He's like, ah this is what new jersey look no he's like, ah this is the fabled new jersey

[01:10:18] Yeah, or some shit like that. Yeah, it makes a new jersey joke and I'm like the fuck man

[01:10:23] Maybe it's not in it's not as funny as the one in gx2 the one in gx2 is still the best one

[01:10:27] But oh for sure yeah, and I have not played gx2 or gx3

[01:10:32] um

[01:10:33] I'm assuming we'll play them for the show eventually because I think this is probably the best avenue to talk about the other gx2 cool

[01:10:40] They're tangentially related and I feel like we should cover things like that down the line

[01:10:46] um

[01:10:47] Now the real question is as we well before we get to that there's no memory manager so

[01:10:53] Absolutely players. Sorry

[01:10:55] Did you know I was just looking like the game uh whiplash

[01:11:00] That crystal dynamics made for the ps2 apparently that was supposed to be a gx4 those the original idea

[01:11:06] Yeah, I believe a lot of members of the gx team at the time started worked on that game

[01:11:11] Yeah, but then they decided to not make it gx and do something else which to me is like doesn't make any sense like just you gx4

[01:11:20] Yeah, uh, I guess they didn't want to have to go

[01:11:23] They probably didn't want to have to pay danna gold

[01:11:26] And they probably didn't want to uh have to write all the lines of dialogue

[01:11:30] Yeah, I guess and then I totally forgot about this in it was like two years ago

[01:11:36] somebody unearthed a old prototype for a game called gx jr

[01:11:41] gx jr

[01:11:42] Yeah

[01:11:43] Yeah, do you want me to send you the video?

[01:11:45] Yeah, you can send me that I'll check it out later. Yeah, it's like a little 30 second clip

[01:11:49] So it was supposed to be for the ps1 and like 2001, I think

[01:11:54] Yeah, interesting

[01:11:56] I'm assuming a lot of this stuff was before crystal got their hands on the legacy of can

[01:12:02] franchise and then they kind of did that just became their thing it might have been around the same time

[01:12:08] I think because the the gx jr

[01:12:10] According to this it was uh, it was gonna be in 2001

[01:12:13] They were doing legacy a cane by them. Oh yeah, yeah

[01:12:17] Yeah, so maybe they were just thinking like oh well gx was still like a

[01:12:21] It was kind of a big deal for us. We should try to keep it going

[01:12:25] Uh, one other thing before we get to our ranking um

[01:12:29] I was I noticed this when I was watching the credits apparently silco nights

[01:12:33] What assisted with development of gx? Yeah, that was interesting

[01:12:38] And I was like uh

[01:12:40] Yeah, and also um beam beam software reported this game to pit playstation and Sega Saturn

[01:12:46] And then a kinsoft did the pc version so crystal only worked on the 3d version of the yeah

[01:12:52] I think that's why 3d o version is considered the best version by most people still to the same

[01:12:58] Yeah, yeah, oh and it became the packin later on which is a much better packin than crash and burn

[01:13:03] The mile

[01:13:04] Which might explain why this specific dual case version i have is so easy to find

[01:13:09] Yeah, cuz finding the full box

[01:13:12] Not easy

[01:13:13] Yeah, and i'm pretty sure gx is the best selling 3d o game

[01:13:18] I believe it is yes because the 3d o sold what over 2 million

[01:13:24] roughly

[01:13:25] Yes, and then according to this the best selling game is gx selling over 1 million

[01:13:30] So about a 50% attach rate for the system which makes sense

[01:13:34] Especially if it became bundled with the console through most of its life

[01:13:38] Because my guess is when they got to this they're like oh this is oh for this in the pack fuck fuck that crash and burn game get it out of here

[01:13:46] Yeah

[01:13:47] um

[01:13:48] So yeah now I guess like we do every episode must play okay stay away

[01:13:52] I'm gonna just go right from there. It's a must play

[01:13:56] I'm gonna say must play

[01:13:59] somewhere else

[01:14:00] Because for me, I just i thought the

[01:14:03] I didn't get too deep into it but the the performance of this game on 3d o hardware

[01:14:08] It could have just been the fc 10 model

[01:14:10] I don't know

[01:14:11] But I just had so much slowdown

[01:14:14] Like to the point I thought the game was just kind of naturally slower

[01:14:18] But then at one point I was like oh I kind of know walkthrough for a little thing

[01:14:22] And then I saw walkthrough of the ps1 version and the game is running super fucking fast and like perfectly

[01:14:28] And I'm like holy shit

[01:14:30] And then when I went back to 3d o version, I'm like oh god this game is so slow. It is shugging

[01:14:36] Like really hard and the game would like freeze for like a split second when I would go between like levels

[01:14:42] And every time it happened I was like oh shit the game didn't crash on me did it

[01:14:46] Like the heart like the performance of this game is not good. It's very bad

[01:14:51] It's an unfortunate example that the 3d o really wasn't that powerful of a system

[01:14:58] Yeah, which is a shame because this is probably like one of the best

[01:15:02] Games the console has and probably one of the most notable games the console has

[01:15:06] I also think to feel it's

[01:15:09] Optimized very well for the hardware

[01:15:11] It's definitely not optimized well. That's probably my one downside to gex is

[01:15:17] The 3d o wasn't the most groundbreaking

[01:15:21] 32 bit console there was it was probably the most basic of all the 32 bit systems in a lot of ways

[01:15:28] Um, the thing is though

[01:15:31] A good developer could get around that like we saw with need for speed that need for speed shouldn't be as good as it is

[01:15:37] But it is

[01:15:39] Yeah, like EA were wizards on this thing

[01:15:42] But I think maybe some of the hardware issues comes down to crystal dynamics was still a new studio. Yeah, that's probably still figuring it out

[01:15:51] And vets and you also got to think too

[01:15:54] Beam software public ported it over to yes one in Saturn beam software were veterans by this they probably yeah

[01:16:01] Beam knew what they were doing

[01:16:03] Yeah, so it's it's an unfortunate case of just the time the system and the timing probably wasn't the best

[01:16:09] But it doesn't hurt the overall game

[01:16:12] I will say despite the slowdown it never got in the way like it was never a reason I died or anything like that so I can give it that

[01:16:21] Um, and I know that on retro arch

[01:16:23] There's that opera 3docore and in there you have options of overclocking the CPU to like twice what the original 3d

[01:16:34] And I don't know if that helps I have no idea so maybe

[01:16:39] Maybe I should try that like throw this

[01:16:42] Though this rom in the opera emulator with a twice the CPU speed and maybe it kind of

[01:16:48] Helps the game run faster

[01:16:49] So yeah, which would be a good thing for sure

[01:16:52] But even outside of that I would still say the game is the yeah the games are must play

[01:16:56] It's definitely worth playing. It's one of the best games we played on the show by a long shot. Oh, yeah

[01:17:01] Um, but I would say if the PlayStation 1 version is easier to find and play just play that one

[01:17:07] this

[01:17:08] So let a

[01:17:10] Putting aside the fact that you have to get a 3DO itself which is already it kind of an ask

[01:17:15] This is an extremely incredibly common game defined like it is not

[01:17:19] Hard at all

[01:17:21] It's on psn still I believe so if you really want to play gx. It's there for download

[01:17:26] Yeah, and I think the the jewel case for the 3DO version I got

[01:17:30] I don't think I paid more than 30 bucks for it

[01:17:32] It's only expensive if you go for the the long box version that uh that bill has over there

[01:17:37] Like that's the pricey one

[01:17:38] But if you just want the jewel case

[01:17:41] You'll pay like

[01:17:42] 30ish bucks for it and that's not and and that's not a bad price at all

[01:17:47] Yeah, and it's a fun it's a fun game overall that like

[01:17:51] Honestly

[01:17:52] Doesn't deserve the hate that it's gotten over the last couple of the last decade or so. I think some of the hate starting to subside

[01:18:00] Like it doesn't feel as bad as it used to be because I think now through emulation getting so much better

[01:18:05] People have actually played the game

[01:18:07] And have gone like oh, it's actually not that bad

[01:18:09] You know, I wasn't sure what to expect with this guy at all. I had no idea

[01:18:14] And I was pleasantly surprised and I'm glad I was surprised and I'm like oh, I like this like this is a good game

[01:18:20] I could totally see myself playing this game again in the future

[01:18:23] You know, maybe you just emulating the PlayStation one or satin version to see if how different it is

[01:18:29] Maybe downloading it on god. I believe it's still on hog actually published by square enix on god

[01:18:35] So if you want to see the square enix logo in front of this fucker there you go go to god

[01:18:41] Just picture yeah, I'm just picturing gecks with like clown strife hair now

[01:18:46] I know

[01:18:48] Why isn't why isn't gecks in kingdom hearts god damn it?

[01:18:51] I know missed opportunity

[01:18:52] Absolutely

[01:18:54] That would be such a random appearance. Oh and right now gexes on sale on god for a buck 50

[01:19:01] A buck 50 on god, that's a steal and a dollar 50

[01:19:05] Absolutely worth play

[01:19:08] Oh yeah

[01:19:10] Yeah, other than that though

[01:19:12] Definite must play. I'm still not sure if I'd consider it the best 3DO game

[01:19:17] I'm gonna wait till we get to episode 50 because I believe we agreed we're gonna rank all of the games we played

[01:19:23] Okay, I think we can safely say this is top five. Oh, yeah easy top five maybe top three

[01:19:31] Yeah, like me I would put it like probably my

[01:19:35] I

[01:19:36] pride my five favorite games we've played have been this road rash

[01:19:41] um incredible machine

[01:19:43] return fire and

[01:19:46] Need for speed maybe probably need for speed or icebreaker ice maker. Oh, yeah icebreaker. That's somewhere in there

[01:19:52] Yeah, like gecks is definitely up there as one of the better games in the series

[01:19:56] So there's one of the better games on the system

[01:19:58] And yeah eventually I'd say we could probably do single episodes on gecks two and gecks three that would be cool

[01:20:04] Yeah, cuz we eventually

[01:20:05] We've already kind of established eventually. We're gonna run out of 3DO games for the console that we can physically talk about

[01:20:11] And then we're gonna start branching off to like 3DO's post

[01:20:14] Console career because they had a surprisingly big career after that. Oh for sure for sure and um

[01:20:21] And yeah, and they're doing that gecks trilogy of like limited run is doing that eventually

[01:20:27] so it would make sense to

[01:20:29] um

[01:20:32] To talk about that as well

[01:20:35] But yeah, but we have no idea whenever that's coming out so

[01:20:39] You know who knows yeah

[01:20:41] I'll probably buy it when it comes out anyways. Yeah

[01:20:45] And they call the play gecks on modern systems. Yeah get all those achievements

[01:20:50] But uh, yeah, I think we we have established that episode 50 we're gonna do a ranking episode of the games we've played

[01:20:57] Oh, yeah, that that'll be a fun game to do because

[01:20:59] I've actually been going back and listening to some of our older

[01:21:03] Episodes just to kind of see where i'm sitting on some of those games

[01:21:07] Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to shift around because I feel like we were harsher to certain games earlier on

[01:21:12] And or maybe lenient with certain ones so

[01:21:16] Cuz I think we were trying to find the good stuff

[01:21:19] Yeah

[01:21:20] Which was kind of harder

[01:21:23] Because we didn't want to just do all of the good stuff out the gate you know what I mean

[01:21:28] I mean we found some hidden gems though in the in the process. Oh yeah, and we still have more to go

[01:21:33] Like they're there's still quite a few games that i want to do

[01:21:37] Oh, yeah, I'm like really excited to actually like play and talk about so I got one in the mail today

[01:21:42] That we're gonna be talking about eventually i'll save that for a leader

[01:21:46] Yeah, well, I got one in the mail yesterday

[01:21:50] And then I have a couple more coming as well that'll be good ones to talk about

[01:21:55] And then one and then one i took a bit of a risk on it's gonna be a while till it gets here

[01:22:00] I took a risk on it, but i'll let you know when i get it

[01:22:03] Okay

[01:22:04] Um, but yes speaking of the older episodes of the show where actually uh we can announce this now

[01:22:10] Uh next week we're going to be talking about way of the warrior and we're actually gonna have um

[01:22:15] Casey from episode three of the show he's coming back and he's gonna join us for that one

[01:22:20] Yeah, that'll that'll be fun

[01:22:22] That'll be fun i haven't met him

[01:22:23] So i don't know anything

[01:22:25] But uh, but yeah, that'll be that'll be cool

[01:22:28] He said that we have a very good

[01:22:29] Repitor and he's enjoying the shit the episodes so that's good thank you

[01:22:33] Thank you and yeah, where the warriors get that's gonna be an interesting one

[01:22:37] I'm ready to listen to some weights on me

[01:22:41] I feel like you want to do it just so you can talk about naughty dog

[01:22:45] Nady dog then also i love really shitty Mortal Kombat clones

[01:22:49] Yeah

[01:22:50] Because i how about i'll say this before

[01:22:53] We do way of the warrior just off the top of your head right now which is the better game this or consume ninja

[01:23:02] Uh way of the warrior just because it functions

[01:23:05] That's really about it

[01:23:07] Okay, then how about how about we'll both play way of the warrior and then for funzies

[01:23:12] Let's play kisumi ninja and just to see which one's better

[01:23:16] Okay

[01:23:18] Yeah, kisumi ninja is

[01:23:20] I do own that so i can i can boot it up at any time

[01:23:24] I've held that i've held the box for that game in my hand once

[01:23:29] Yeah, uh it has so i will say kisumi ninja does have a

[01:23:33] Scotsman that shoots fireballs out of his dick

[01:23:36] um

[01:23:38] Which you think would make it the better game just on that

[01:23:41] You think but the game plays like garbage so

[01:23:45] You

[01:23:47] We'll get there we'll get there

[01:23:49] Yeah, um but yeah other than that though um

[01:23:54] Before we do the closings do you want to shut up the stream tomorrow night or yes sir

[01:23:59] So i've i'm now streaming on twitch twitch.tv slash thrac 94

[01:24:05] Every Wednesday night at seven p.m. You can watch me play a handful of Sega Genesis games and we are ranking them

[01:24:12] As well so i take requests

[01:24:14] I have quite a few requests from bill and some from from other people in the

[01:24:19] Who watch the streams as well as my own picks

[01:24:22] So i'll try to sprinkle them in and i'm considering maybe

[01:24:25] Everyone so while doing like a side stream where i play say one of the longer like RPGs or adventure games

[01:24:31] Like for like by itself for like say two hours before i

[01:24:35] Really talk about except i've been itch in the play a little beyond oasis

[01:24:40] Because that's a really cool game

[01:24:41] But i feel if i do that i might do it kind of like

[01:24:44] It's like it like a like an extra stream. Yeah, yeah kind of thing so

[01:24:49] Um but we'll see

[01:24:51] Yeah, so that's that'll actually be uh

[01:24:55] I shouldn't say tomorrow night because when this episode comes out it will be the night of the episode

[01:24:58] It'll be tonight yes, and in tonight you folks

[01:25:02] Uh one of the little piece of housekeeping. I just want to shout out um

[01:25:06] Not related to 3DO but uh just uh podcasting in general

[01:25:10] um

[01:25:11] Going forward uh our sister show geek addicts now has its own dedicated

[01:25:17] Feed for podcasts so it's no longer in the gnc feed directly

[01:25:21] Um, so yeah that's um now going forward gonna be its own thing separate from everything

[01:25:27] I remember when you first like

[01:25:29] Did that some people are like oh shit what happened to geek guys

[01:25:32] Is it going away? Yeah, I didn't think about it when i posted that

[01:25:36] I was like yeah, that sounds kind of like

[01:25:38] Going away but no we're not we're just uh

[01:25:41] Now it's easier to find us because we're not buried in with the gaming collecting anymore. It's its own stream

[01:25:48] That's good. That's good

[01:25:50] Also um as it deserves

[01:25:52] Yeah, and it's just more convenient now. I've got all three podcasts under one account now

[01:25:57] So editing and managing is so much easier

[01:26:00] um

[01:26:02] This man is a freak everyone

[01:26:04] Yeah, I know

[01:26:07] But uh yeah once again guys thanks for joining us on the 3DO experience so you could find the 3DO experience on all your major podcasting platforms

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[01:26:52] What are you playing with

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