3DOn't - Episode 5: Bubsy 4D: What Could Possibly Go Wrong! (ft. Steve)

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[00:00:29] 3DO. Friends, welcome to this 3DO-n episode on Bubsy. I'm your host Thrak Bubsy and over here is Bill Bubsy. How are you? What could possibly go wrong?

[00:00:55] That's all I'm gonna do before I cannot hold that up. Fuck. But speaking of Bubsy, I have my co-conspirator, co-prisoner, I don't know, a guy who's played all the other Bubsy games with me. From the excellent fine time show, it's the excellent Steve. Steve, how you doing? Is the writer's strike over yet? Yes. You wouldn't know it from this game. Oh. Oh.

[00:01:26] Oh. Oh, God. So yeah, we have brought ourselves together, willingly or not, I'm not quite sure, to discuss the latest game in the Bubsy franchise. I hate the term Bubsy franchise. Like, why did they do this to us?

[00:01:45] It's called Bubsy 4D, which was released May the 22nd, 2026 on Nintendo Switch 1, Nintendo Switch 2, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X, Xbox Series S, and your various computer devices.

[00:02:03] This was developed by Fabraz? It sounds like a knockoff of Febreze. I don't know, Fabraz, whatever. The guys who made the Demon Turf games, which I guess was good enough for Atari to let them make this, because Atari owns the Bubsy franchise now, because why not, right? They sold it, and then repurchased it for some reason.

[00:02:30] Yeah, so I, who knows? Atari's weird. So yeah, did any of you play Demon Turf? No. I know what it is, but no. I've seen it, but I have not played it either. It just looked like, in that kind of vein of, I don't know, like, Super Lucky's Tale? Like, that kind of, like, or even, like, Hat and Tie, maybe.

[00:02:56] Like, those, like, kind of lower-budget 3D platformers, where, in, like, the 2020s, or late 2010s, early 2020s, where people were trying to bring back the 3D platformer, you know, to, I would say, mostly mixed results, but it's nice to see them back, right? You know? Like, I don't think we'll ever get to that, like, PS2 level of consistency, but that's okay. Not with Yooka-Laylee, we're not.

[00:03:23] I have not played Yooka-Laylee yet. That's what I've heard. Though, I want to try that replay-ly, that, like, weird remaster thing they did, see if it's any better. I honestly liked Impossible Lair more. I have Impossible Lair, actually. I played, like, two levels of it, and I was like, that's actually not bad. I understand that's just the budget Donkey Kong Country Returns, though. You can't fuck that up too hard. True.

[00:03:47] You can try, but anyways, at the time of recording this, I don't think it's been out yet, but me and Steve chronicled our playthrough of every other Bubsy game, and that was quite a journey. So, Bill, what previous Bubsy experience do you have? I've played and beaten all of them, and I don't like any of them. Okay. Okay, so we have three Bubsy connoisseurs here, unfortunately.

[00:04:17] So, when did this first get announced? Was it, it had to be, like, late last year? Right after we finished playing 3D for the Game Club, because I remember it got announced, and we were like, why? Yeah, I think it was a pre-Gamescom announcement. Yeah, it did weirdly sync up, yeah. But, and we all saw it and went, what the fucking why? But then the trailer, it's like, the game doesn't look that bad.

[00:04:47] Doesn't look that bad. And then that demo came out a while afterwards. I actually did not know about the demo until you guys at Fine Time talked about it, where I guess you, did you make Dre and Kevin play it, or were they just like, no, we want to do this? I was never going to touch it. I think it was Kevin that insisted they play it, and then they were trying to play it off like it was a real video game that we were supposed to take seriously. Like, guys, it's Bubsy.

[00:05:15] That is not glitching out or, you know. Dre and Kevin pretentious about video games? Never. Or making the system melt is a miracle in itself. I'll say one thing about this game is that serious is, like, not a word I'd use to describe anything about Bubsy 4D. No, but it feels like just about every Bubsy game is, like, a parody of itself. Or at least they have been for a while. This one is so self-aware, though, it's not even funny.

[00:05:44] I feel like it's, like, too self-aware, you know, to where it feels like it's so kind of above everything that it's, like, deflecting criticism. When it's, like, I guess if you're going to give a shit about the writing in the game, like, it's not very good. You know, if there is a story, I couldn't tell you what it was other than, I guess you have to, like, go on planets and do Bubsy shit or whatever. I don't really know.

[00:06:13] Are you really going to come on this show and tell us the story of Bubsy wasn't that good? I mean, I was asking you guys if you knew. I mean, enough to where somebody wrote two paragraphs on Wikipedia about it. You know what's amazing? I looked on Wikipedia and I looked on Moby Games and there's no one credited for the writing. I don't think they hired a specific writer for this game. I wouldn't be surprised if AI wrote this game, to be perfectly honest.

[00:06:42] I think they all just had to write one line at a time amongst, like, they passed the hat around, like, okay, this is the dialogue of the game and that's what happened. It's like at my work, like, every week, one of the departments has to, like, do kitchen duty where they keep, you know, just make sure you wash the dishes. It's like, oh, this week we got to write the script. Pretty much. Yeah. So, I played through that demo and I was like, you know, it's not terrible.

[00:07:13] Which for Bubsy is high, is a pretty high praise, I'd say. But it was like, but I wasn't sold on it in terms of, like, I don't know if this is going to be, like, genuinely good. Though coming out of it, I would say that it was good for a Bubsy game. It was, the best way I described this game is this was the most average platformer I've ever played, but at the same time, it's the best Bubsy game I've ever played.

[00:07:44] In a weird way, yes. Steve, what do you think? I mean, isn't that the conceit of the character anyway? He's washed up, has been, and the best we can do is okay? It's the best we can ever hope for out of the character. It feels like. I mean, okay. It feels like they're, like, not willing to. Yeah, and it feels like they're not willing to actually make it good because then it would defeat the purpose. I don't know. I thought that tie was pretty spiffy. If that's not 10 out of 10 gameplay, I don't know what is.

[00:08:13] You didn't play the entire game in hedgehog style? I mean, there's no making the tie minigame, unfortunately. I did play it. Yeah, what was that hedgehog? Why did they, like, censor his junk? I don't understand. They're making fun of the fact that all the Sonic characters don't wear pants, I guess. But neither does Bubsy. I didn't say this game was clever. That doesn't make sense. Oh, God.

[00:08:39] There was the 3D outfit, too, because if we ever wanted to live that nightmare again. I did play an entire world with that. Did you turn on the tank controls? No. I didn't realize that was a thing until after I finished. I didn't know that was a thing until after I finished, and then I saw it. I was like, no. Wait, there was a tank controls option? Yeah. Oh, I did not see that. Tank controls and nine lives if you really want to play that way. I saw that after I beat it. I was like, fuck that. Yeah, I think I'll pass.

[00:09:09] I think I'll pass. It's like the opposite of giving 3D proper controls. Giving 4D improper controls. And yeah, the Metacritic for this game, it sits like low to mid-60s, which I think is, I don't know, I feel it could be maybe a tad higher. But like maybe by like two points. Like maybe upper 60s.

[00:09:34] Looking at some of those fan reviews I saw, a lot of those reviews were clearly written by people who didn't play the game and just were shitting on it to shit on it. Yeah, but I feel like the joke about Bubsy is like, it's over and done with. You know, like it was maybe funny like 15 years ago. But it feels like that joke is long. Like Bubsy basically feels like that stand-up comedian who's still trotting out new material. When it's like, dude, even your peak material wasn't any good.

[00:10:04] Like why do people still care? Like there's like one joke in this game that I got a somewhat of a chuckle out of, which was the occasionally in the levels you can find like the other characters just around chilling. And in one of the stages you can find his niece and nephew. And he talks about how he starts like breaking the fourth wall. And he's like, I'm a fourth wall breaking master. And they're like, they just respond. Isn't that your gecko friends shtick?

[00:10:32] I did not see the gecko friends. And then he just kind of goes, well, anyways, it's tail. And then the sister goes, stop. And just goes, no. That got a chuckle out of me. I was like. Does Atari own gecko too? I doubt it. But I don't think they give a shit. No, but I mean, they were both. Doesn't Square technically own gecko? I think it's actually Embracer now. Oh, yeah. Because of Crystal Dynamics. That's right.

[00:11:02] But they didn't mention him by name. So I don't think they could even do anything if they wanted. Yeah. Yeah. Why haven't we gotten a new fucking gecko game? I feel like at least that would be better. It would just be. His games aren't bad. They aren't bad. But my God, it would be modern humor with gecko would be so fucking cringe. It wouldn't even be funny. I mean, I'd be curious. You'd have to get like a really good writer on a new gecko game. Because I feel like there's something there you could do. But I don't know if anybody's willing to actually put in the time and the effort.

[00:11:33] I also don't think it would rate much higher than a mid-65 like Bubsy 4D just did. That's fair. That's fair. They wouldn't take it serious. They'd make it ironic. Oh, yeah. I think they would go to like the way Bubsy 4D I think gets a little too meta with like all the meme references and all this other stuff. You know, that kind of writing where it's like you can just tell me you don't have an original thought in your head. It's okay.

[00:11:59] Also, like the so the guy that plays Bubsy in this game is is an actual actor. Sean Chiplock. I think he's the main character. What a name. I think I believe he plays the main character in the trail series. So that's kind of funny. But at least the Cold Steel games. But he literally he's just doing like a bad Roger Craig Smith this entire game. I mean, it's fine. He's supposed to it's supposed to invoke a washed up bag. You know what they need to do?

[00:12:27] They need to make a few more of these and have a different voice actor for each one. So like they do like they do for KFC. Like there's a different kernel every month. Have a different. It could be like the Legend of Spyro games where they changed like Sparks is like voice actor every every game to the point where by the third one he was like, I don't know. Voice keeps changing. What are you doing to do? Yeah, it'd be funny at least. In fact, I just scrolling through the Wikipedia stuff. I noticed one thing.

[00:12:54] It said some publications noted that fans expressed surprise or frustration that Bubsy received a new game before other dormant franchises such as Banjo-Kazooie, Mega Man, Spyro the Dragon or Crash Bandicoot. And I had a game like Crash just got four. I know. Like I like I see that. I'm like, guys, guys, Crash, Crash's new game wasn't that long ago. Spyro just got a new one. Spyro got one and out and Mega Man got one announced a while ago, too.

[00:13:23] Like the only one that Banjo's dead in the water. But honestly, I think that's that's probably it's honestly probably for the best. And like a recent news. I mean, unless like unless like Toys for Bob really wants to do it, I don't think it's really worth doing. In my opinion, in hindsight, thinking about it, I'm actually amazed Rare survived this long. They had a hit with Sea of Thieves. And they just kind of rolled with it, you know, I don't think it's 20th season.

[00:13:51] I don't think anybody expects Sea of Thieves to be as big of a hit as it was. So, you know, good for them, I guess. But. Fair. So, yeah. Again, some people really need to calm the hell down. Like Crash isn't fucking dormant. He's still like what? Like rum. Like I know people don't like Team Rumble, but that wasn't that long ago either. No, it wasn't. No. Oh, God, that's right. Yeah. People also don't. Sorry to bring up Crash Team Rumble. I didn't know it was dramatic.

[00:14:21] Banjo-Kazooie Team Rumble. Like I'm pretty sure all of those games that you that were. Sorry, Conker. Aside from Banjo, all of the games that you name there. They all have games in the last like decade. They've all had a newer entry like in their series before GTA has. Just think about that for a minute. Yeah. Exactly. Think about that for a minute. Because Crash 4 came out during the Ruin of the Year, right? Around the year after. Was it 2020?

[00:14:52] Something like that? Yeah. Might have been 2019, to be honest. It was around there, though. It was in that era. Yeah. So then everyone was excited that Crash was back. And then they did the new, that new like Team Racing whatever thing. And then Team Rumble. So it's not like Crash is like dormant. Like people don't know what the word fucking dormant means. Like. Jack and Daxter is dormant. That's a dormant. Yeah. Like they just said, Jack and Daxter, Sly Cooper, fucking Conker. But Conker is not really a series.

[00:15:21] Not really. He's got two whole games. That's a series by some. And a remake. I guess. I guess. And a shitty add-on for a game that isn't even playable anymore. Oh yeah. Project Spark. Oh, I forgot about the Spark thing. Oh, that was so funny. But. So yeah. I guess like. I guess we'll get into. I guess the gameplay of Bubsy. So. You have all these. Like how many levels? It was a short game. It's four.

[00:15:49] Like I think we were reading about six hours, right? Three worlds with five levels apiece. That sounds right. Yeah. Because there's four main stages. And then the fifth one is the boss stage. I believe. Yeah. Yeah. And it took me about six hours. I think you, Steve and Bill. It was about six each. Six hours around. I was a little longer. Because I went for every blueprint. Like a psychopath. I thought about getting every collectible. But when I was done. I was like, you know.

[00:16:19] I think I'm okay. I think I will. I tried the time trial once. And went. Nah. So I got the. I was going all yarn. All blueprints. Up until I missed one boss stage. Where I missed like two yards. I'm like, I'm not doing the entire fucking stage again. Just to collect two fucking yarns. Because fuck the. I hated the boss fights. I mean. I really did not like this. Collectible yards sounds like insane behavior. You don't. You don't even need all the yarn. Like. Because you can get all the costumes. Without getting all the yarn. I did it. I mean. And the game could be like.

[00:16:49] Where. If you just miss a couple. You go in the level. Get the ones you miss. And then just immediately boot out. And you're fine. It could have been one of those. But. I didn't check. I think you actually can. But. Mm-hmm. I just didn't want to do the boss stages again. Because. Fuck. The bosses. They're not the worst bosses I've ever played. But they were. That last. Whatever. The final boss. Whatever. Was annoying. Just because of the hit points. But. Yeah. But. I mean. Sorry. Go ahead. No.

[00:17:19] I was just going to say. None of them were. Annoying. I didn't lose too many times. But. They were all definitely tedious. In their own way. Yeah. I mean. Are they any better or worse. Than like. 3D platformer boss. In like a PS2 platformer. From the era. Not really. Yeah. But like. But this game doesn't really. Like. It does feel like a 3D platformer. From that era. But it doesn't like. Evoke the same. Like. It doesn't have lives. That's immediately makes it. Colorable. Yeah. Yeah. And. Yeah. And all the levels were fairly.

[00:17:49] Like. They were fairly short. They tried to have theming. But I feel like they kind of gave up. On any kind of theming. It had the same theming. As like. Any Bubsy game. Where it's just nonsense. Yeah. Or the Jaguar one. Where they're just like. We'll just do. Alice in Wonderland. For some reason. I feel like the theme was just. Stuff with yarn. Yeah. Yarn world. I didn't. Yoshi's Wooly World. But Bubsy. I did admit. I do admit. I did kind of like.

[00:18:19] The final. The final world. Which was all just like. Electronics parts. Just shoved around everywhere. Oh yeah. Like you're inside a computer. Yeah. That was kind of neat. Yeah. Like I kind of liked. How the. The Woolies were just. Chilling and fucking PCs. And I'm like. That's. That's funny. I got. Wow. A 3DO drive. Who said that? So. So. So I guess the big thing. Because I'm curious to how you guys feel about it. Is. Bubsy's control. How do you think he controlled in this game?

[00:18:48] His control itself was fine. I found the camera to be kind of jank. Well. I didn't think the camera was jank. It was just. It doesn't follow you. Like you have to directly control the camera. Pretty much the entire time. Which is fine. And I never really got it snagged on anything. It's just. I'm so used to like. The camera following you to a certain extent. That. There would be moments where I'm like. Oh shit. I forgot to move the camera. And I died. Because. Dummy me. Right. And he's very.

[00:19:18] He's incredibly floaty. Like this is a floaty platformer. Which might not be everybody's cup of tea. Which is. Fair enough. But you know. I don't. I don't mind the floaty platformer. My big issue with. It wasn't even so much the camera. It was more the fact that this game does that. Detrimental thing where they put way too many things on the buttons. Yeah. Because there were so many times I would jump. And then accidentally activate yarn mode. And then just fucking plummet. And I'd be like. Well. Yeah. They're really taking advantage of every button.

[00:19:48] On these modern controllers you have. Which I mean. Is fine. Because then. You know. It's like. Oh. I'm pushing this button. No. But it does like three other things. Fuck. Right. So. That helps. But I get what you're saying. Steve. How would you describe your time with Bubsy's controls? I said this on fine time. And I'll say it again here. Because now that I played the whole damn thing. It was fine. I mean. I've. I've played Sonic games with a worse camera. Sorry. Threk. And I've played. You're right.

[00:20:17] And I've played platformers that didn't understand button economy. Ballum Wonderworld. So. You know. We're having A to win the game. I mean. A to win the game eventually. But I mean. At least here. We're using the buttons to do different things. If all this was one button. Forget it. Bubsy has a weirdly large moveset in this game. Yeah. With Balan. I'm waiting for it to be the right price. And it still isn't yet. I'm not paying more than five dollars for that game. And it doesn't go on sale for five.

[00:20:47] It's always like seven. And I'm like no. No. Like. When it's like less than five. I'll buy it. But I'm still waiting. But yeah. He does have a huge moveset. Like the big. I guess the big gimmick in this game. Is like him going into. They call it hairball mode. Where it's basically just turned into a super monkey ball. Or it reminded me of. Because I like to reference this game a lot. Eye Ninja. I don't know if either of you played that. Where you have those moments where. Your character sits on that. Like gets attached to that big metal ball.

[00:21:17] And then you have to like. Do those little like. Puzzle-y sections. And then you roll down the ramps. It felt similar to that. And. I feel like the. The hairball mode. I guess. Like that stuff is. Is fine. It's fine. I do like how you. I like how you can turn it off on a dime. Yeah. You can swap them instantaneously. And. Some of the. Platforming challenges kind of. Encourage you to do that. So you can kind of get through more efficiently. Which is like.

[00:21:46] It's a neat little idea. So yeah. What would you think. Steve. Of hairball mode. I mean. That was fine. Except for when it didn't feel like working. Oh no. I missed that hole. Again. The fucking. I hate that. The fucking cannings. I hated those things. Oh. Fuck that cannon. Any. Anytime you ended up like in one of those cannon shot things. I swear to God. You would aim it. And it would just like.

[00:22:16] Flop down below. And I'd be like. But like. Okay. So I'm just aiming at the sky. And hoping for the best. There was this one. Like towards. It was in one of the last world levels. Where you have to fire the cannon. Just before the goal. And. And. Lord help you. If it's. Well. Too high. You fly over the platform. Too low. You fly into the platform. And it's like. That guy. We don't have lives. I hope you didn't use too much. I hope you didn't use like. All of your jumps. Because.

[00:22:45] If you stick to the wall. You don't have enough stamina. He just won't climb. Yeah. Because the game. Yeah. It gives you a lot of moves. Also when you're like. Floating in midair. Like you can do extra jumps. You can pounce. You can do the. The Bubsy float. Like he has in every game. And it feels like this is the first game. Well not the first game. Maybe like the second. Where the float actually feels like. Like it. Like it makes sense. Like it's like. Wooly Strikes Back. I think makes good use of the floating mechanic. So you know. It's like the only other one that does.

[00:23:14] It's super weird. Like you have a double jump. But then you can do a lunge. But then you can also do a hover. Yes. But if you use the lunge before you hover. When you stick to a wall. You won't be able to climb. But if you don't use the lunge. Then you'll act. Be able to climb. It's weirdly complicated. Yes. Yes. And if you buy yourself the sticky claws upgrade. Or whatever that is. And you run out of jumps. You could just have an existential crisis. While you're hanging on to the side of the thing. I'm like. Man. What am I doing? How did I get here?

[00:23:45] The power ups. The power ups are both really cool. In the sense of how. Interesting. They gave you a lot of options. For like the blueprint power ups. But at the same time. Some of them sound really good on paper. And then you use them. And like. This is fucking worthless. Like that. The sticky claws. Because you get all of those moves. Right? Like you can buy all. I think I bought them all. I bought them all. Just because of line on. You have to collect all the blueprints to get them. Then I think I collected all the blueprints. But like. I didn't.

[00:24:13] Outside of maybe the ones that you just automatically use. Like I didn't. Use any outside of the ones they just give you. The ones that were the most useful. To me. I found were. The extra hit point. Oh yeah. The litter box teleport. Which lets you teleport between the litter boxes. Because that also. I don't think I ever use that. So here's the trick. If you would. If you do that. It actually refills your health. When you go between the litter boxes. That's nice. I figured that out. And then the. The Wile E.

[00:24:43] Coyote. Like cliff one. Where you can like walk like a few feet off the cliff. And then jump. That one was fun. Yeah. Full disclosure. I think it was only the coyote physics. And the sticky claws that I actually bought. I did. I did not. Go ham on those blueprints. Like you guys. And I'm like. If I find like a few more. I'll get that extra hit point. But I didn't. You're just trying to get this game done. As fast as possible Steve. We're very busy over at Fine Time Incorporated. We don't have. We can't 100% Bubsy 4D around here. I don't think any of us did. No. I get.

[00:25:12] I was not collecting all the yarn. When I realized I didn't need it. I didn't even get the 100% Yoshi's Mysterious Book. You think I'm going to spend that time on Bubsy? Like I didn't even. Like I tried like. Because every level has like. Like you can. I guess do like a speed run mode of it. Where you can just kind of. Because I think if you hold the left trigger. You can like sprint. And if you use that. Like you can go super fast. And kind of blast through some of these levels. But like. I think it was just the first one. I tried. I was like. Let me see if I can get there.

[00:25:41] And I think my best time was like. Maybe three. Four seconds above the par. And I was like. I'm not going to keep doing this. Because it's just. I'm. I'm okay. And especially when you have a floaty platformer. It's really hard to do like those speed runs. Because then there's that little bit of unpredictability. With the floatiness. That kind of comes with that. It's not the Xbox 360 days anymore. You're not 12. And without games to play. You can. Skip the time trial. And leaderboards. I'm going to. I'm going to say like the.

[00:26:11] The length of this game. Like the. It's actually I think perfectly length. Oh yeah. Yeah. Because if this game was any longer. I would have said fuck it. Like I got. I was really tired by the end of the final. It could have. It could have maxed out at eight. And would have been fine. Any more than that would have been too much. But I think. Yeah. Six is like. The perfect length. Where it's like. Yeah. I played it. I got my time. Out of it. My $18. That I spent on it. So. I'm not mad. Yeah. There were a bunch of people. There's.

[00:26:41] It's too short. Okay. This is. This is a point in Bubsy's favor. We do not need to be with Bubsy. Any more than we need to be. At any given time. Yeah. If the game's over. It's six hours. Terrific. And I just. I'm really getting sick of like. People complaining about the length of video games. These days. It just really bugs me. Because it's like. Guys. Why. Why do you want every game to last forever? Like. I just. I just don't understand that. It. It. It. It. It. It.

[00:27:16] It needs to be an original game. Let's not get hasty. One step at a time. I would prefer that. Sorry. We all would. I did not. Yeah. I did not play the demo. Because I'm just. I'm not interested. See. Nintendo's waiting. For another studio. To make a game. That happens to have a protagonist. That looks like Fox McCloud. So then Miyamoto. Isn't there one? Isn't there like a Star Fox clone? Right now? I'm just waiting. I thought there was. I'm just waiting for another game.

[00:27:46] Where Miyamoto can be like. This is ours now? That's not what. Now. Now. He. He spends most of his time. Doing theme parks and movies. He doesn't do the video games anymore. Yeah. He doesn't think about them anymore. Unless he has to jump in. Off the top rope. And be like. Get that story out of here. Oh. Wild Blue. Is what I was thinking of. Isn't that like. Still coming out? I don't know. Or because they. Star Fox. Everyone just stopped giving a shit. That's probably what happened.

[00:28:16] Just like with all the Mario RPG likes. We don't need you anymore. You're all back. Yeah. Yeah. Like Fables. And that other. Paper Mario. Sort of like a game. Escape Ever After. I think it was really. They were good games. There was a Mario RPG one. With the button. Base combat too. It was shamelessly. That. Oh yeah. Like they're all. Fairly solid. I think it's just because. The foundation. Paper Mario is already really good. So. Yeah.

[00:28:46] At least the first three are. Anyways. You're not wrong. So. I knew we could. I knew I could make you guys derail into a Nintendo topic somehow. No. I'm just kidding. Well, you played this game on your Nintendo switch. Didn't you? My Nintendo switch too, which came with a license for the original. Switch after. Like. I'm loading it in. It's like. Free download. Bubsy 4D. For Nintendo switch.

[00:29:15] I also played this on switch one. Cause. I'm good. I could just have it there. Well, also because I didn't feel like booting up my PS5. Yeah. Of course. I played on my Xbox. Like I play everything. So. And I imagine it ran just fine on switch too. All the frames were there. This isn't a very taxing game. No, no, no. I borrowed Dre's. Frame counting lenses. And yes, all the frames were there. Present and accounted for.

[00:29:45] Then he will be pleased at the very least. It is performant. What a fucking word. Yeah. But anything else anybody has got to say? We're already struggling on this guy. What else we have to say? Some of the. The music's good. Yeah. The music's the. Like shockingly good. Composed by. Fat Bard. According to Wikipedia.

[00:30:15] Nobody wants to hold up to this thing. Nobody wrote this thing. A fat bard composed the music. You might as well say. Bubsy voiced himself. I just like to think fat bar. Like, like they pulled a dude out of like kingdom come deliverance to, to like give him a fender rose and be like, just make some jazz music. And they're like, what's that? Like, just, you'll figure it out kid. It's like, yeah. Like weirdly, like smooth jazz. It was pretty. I enjoyed it. It doesn't fit. Like at all,

[00:30:45] but it's really good. So I did not mind. Bubsy 3d was most famous for its music being the most irritating fucking garbage you'll ever hear. Yeah. So this is a major improvement. They had a vision this time and we all like a game with a vision. Don't we? Vision in 4d. So like, why, why can't I smell or touch or taste this game? Why isn't my seat rattling as I'm playing? Where's the bits of water dropping on my head? Where's my scratch and sniff card? Yeah. You need it.

[00:31:14] You need to get it on the switch to, or a steam deck or something and play it in a dark room. If you want that stuff. Comes with like those like earthbound scratch and sniffies. It's, it's like the, the, the, the, the, the Rugrats go wild movie. They came with like the scratches sniff card. And there was a little prompts on screen where you'd scratch it and smell it. It was really. Oh yeah. I think I remember that spy kids 4d also did it. And it was bad.

[00:31:42] You mean spy kids 3d or did they do a 4d? They did a 4d. Oh, I never saw that. And that was the, that was the gimmick was scratch and sniff. So where's my scratch and sniff card, Tori? Weirdly enough. I feel cheated now. Weird. Weirdly enough, spy kids 4d was surprisingly like not that bad when you actually put it next to the other ones and you realize they're all the same quality. Does it have the thumb guys? I think maybe I don't remember. I don't remember.

[00:32:11] I have a name. I would just call them those thumb guys. I'm sure they have a name. Okay. Time to nail me to the cross. I've only seen the first spy kids. That's the only one you have to. Honestly, you're, you're okay. That's the only one that matters. I only saw the first three and then I was kind of done after that. I mean, I was already too old, but you know, when you have a younger sister that's around you guys's age, you know, babies. Yeah. You're all children to me. You don't, you don't, you don't end up watching all the spy kids. No.

[00:32:41] You end up being in the same room for a lot of high school musical and Twilight though. These are the payoffs. I don't, I don't need to hear about Twilight ever again. I think I did better on the quiz of Twilight than you did. I guessed most of those questions. I mean, I've seen, I have seen those movies. Don't ask why. So, but I vaguely remember them. No, I was going to say surprise. Bubsy didn't see fit to reference those to very timely films. I'm surprised.

[00:33:13] I'm honestly surprised. They didn't go deeper into like references and stuff. His lower, like deep Bubsy lore. Not even that. Just like playing with like other nonsense. Cause like a lot of the, there are, there are memes in there, but there's really not that many. A lot of this stuff is you have to talk to the, the friend characters throughout the levels, but I wasn't hunting them. Yeah. Who the fuck's doing that? I only happen. Just keep going. Like I only by happenstance, talk to the one that gave the Gex reference.

[00:33:42] Most of the friends are right by the beginning of every level. Anyway, not that you should be spending so much time looking for everybody, but I don't know. It's just kind of, why did they decide Bubsy has friends? Like after 3d, right? I mean, I know they, sorry, they're all from the, the animated pilot for the, yeah. Well, he has the friends in the paws on fire. Yeah. They have all those different play styles. They, yes, they were in the pilot and then they're like, Oh, they were there the whole time. Right? Right guys.

[00:34:12] Yeah. Just as, almost as many friends as that Sonic fellow. Yeah. They're really evoking Sonic. And, and it's like, guys, you're trying way too hard here. Okay. I was bummed. We didn't get the armadillo guy in this game who like, wants nothing to do with anything going on in Bubsy. Who's the armadillo guy? He was in the, he's playable in positive fire. I know that. But he was from the, Oh, he's, he's the bonus level guy where his levels are like the, the half pipes and like Sonic two. Yeah.

[00:34:42] He was in, in, in the anime animated pilot. He was his, his gimmick was the fact that he was like, just this guy that Bubsy would not leave the fuck alone. And he wanted to do with any of it. And he's the most relatable character in that show. Yeah. Yeah. No one else wanted to see the pilot either, but you know, we didn't even watch it. Speak for yourself. I've seen that before we got this game. I probably, they probably stuck the YouTube upload on that thing. I think,

[00:35:11] I think that's why, cause it's in four parts for some weird reason. And I'm like, that's because they ripped the YouTube links. Yeah. I wouldn't even get the right one. There's like a full, the entire things on YouTube as well. Well, to be fair, you should only really watch it in short bursts. It's not like, it's bad. It's not. I hope you need bathroom breaks. I hope Rob Paulson got paid for that. I really do. He didn't. Rob Paulson loves money. He, I remember listening to his old podcast. That's not with us anymore. He's like,

[00:35:41] I love all the roles that I get paid for. That's a good mentality to have. I know he doesn't fondly look back on Bubsy. So does anybody, well, the one guy who designed them, they interviewed him in the perfect collection. And he was very proud. that was actually like one kind of nice thing is during the credits. They did a loving memory to Michael Berlin. Cause he had passed away. Yeah. Around the time. Yeah. And I,

[00:36:11] and I did really like the interview they did in the perfect collection, like detailing his life and how he got basically just, he just kind of fell into drawing Bubsy and it's become one of the more notable things, but it's not like the only thing he ever did. He did. He worked on siphon filter. Yeah. So, you know, good for him. Tens of people like siphon filter still. Hey, there's one right there. There's one right there. It has the best taser in video game history. I don't know about that, but I'll take your word for it.

[00:36:41] You can tase from across the screen and set people on fire. It kills everything. But then I'd have to download siphon filter on my PS5 again, Bill. And I don't think I want to do that anymore. The best part of that game is when you play it and you realize it's running off the Bubsy 3d engine. And then, and then the studio that made Bubsy 3d still exists somehow. Cause I'm yeah, it hasn't been, it hasn't been good for video game studios lately.

[00:37:10] Nope. I don't want to be double fine right now. You guys or Ninja theory or I, I mean, I, I, I have a, well, the thing is they're, they're going to try to get spun off and be independent. And I think, I think they'll be able to get that. It was rumored. It's apparently on the chopping block too. I'm like, how the fuck is it on the chopping block? Don't know. The, um, yeah. Uh,

[00:37:40] looking at other things, it actually is kind of fascinating how much of a nothing game this game kind of is when you actually break it down. Like, like if we're, if we're ranking it in the rest of the Bubsy games, it's easily the best one. Well, it's competently made. It's just, yeah, there's not much here. Yeah. Yeah. That's kind of the problem. But anytime they try to do too much with Bubsy, it's like we said with Bubsy too, there's too much shit going on. Yeah.

[00:38:09] No one really thought it out. And they had a vision as straightforward as it was. Yarn. So much fucking yarn. Yes. Golden fleece. They stole our golden fleece. It's great that they're at the, at the end of the levels like this. Just conveniently there. It's what happens when you have people who have like visions and grandiose ideas of how to do things, but you don't have the people who are willing to like put in the work and

[00:38:39] make it right. You know, which was weirdly a common thing when Bubsy was around is, you know, you had all the other 3d platformer mascots and, you know, a lot of them were just kind of whatever too, you know, cause they're like, Oh, we're going to have this unique character in this unique world. And it's like, okay, but then you play the game and it's like, but this doesn't feel good. You know, like in the same way, like a Mario or a Sonic feels like they don't, they don't have like the basics of like solid game design down. And that was always kind of the issue with Bubsy.

[00:39:07] And so when we get to 4d where it's like, this is probably the best game design it's ever had, but we're so far removed from everything else. It's, it just kind of exists. You know? Yeah. Well, cause it's definitely a case of like people playing this. It's like the people, the people that are playing this are playing it ironically just because it's like, haha Bubsy. Yeah. And then you play and you're like, Oh, that was actually like good. And then they're kind of mad because they wanted it to be bad. I mean,

[00:39:37] if we really want to think about it, that all these levels are kind of designed for more of a arrow, the acrobat game, but who's going to make that fucking game today? Nobody. Nobody. Yeah. See, I can name more dormant video game franchises than Crash Bandicoot. Zul, cool spot. We don't need Zul. Zul is not that good. No, we don't. No, I agree. 7-Up doesn't need the video game money either. They're doing okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:40:05] You will never get Arrow the Acrobat because that game's forever tied to the guy game. That is true. Made by the same guy. Though I think all the Arrow the Acrobats did get like official ports. I believe they did. So if you really want to play them. You can buy them on modern platforms if you want. If you really want. But they're not in a collection, which is stupid. Because you can get Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel too, I believe. Yeah, you can get that one. And I see those and I see the price. I'm like,

[00:40:32] I think I'd rather just borrow them from my local internet archive. Honestly, I think you can get like every Iguana Entertainment game aside from like Vex and NBA Jam. The South Park game. I am sure Vex is ripe for GameCube Nintendo Classics. Like one day that we're just going to see that shit on there. If they really don't want to sell it for 10 bucks a pop. And I could just see the comments under that YouTube trailer being like,

[00:41:01] Vex was my childhood, man. This was my game. And I'm like, you had a bad childhood. You could have had Dr. Muto. Metal arms. You could have had I Ninja. You could have had fucking tie the Tasmanian tiger. Hell, you could have attacked in the power of Juju. And I remember that. I do. I watched it. I watched it. Fucking hour long. Deep Dive series recently. And I'm like, yeah, we're naming games that Steve was like, no. At the time you just went, no. Well,

[00:41:31] I know what tack is. And I also know that paramount's in the game publishing biz again with Star Trek. So maybe they want to dig around and, Hey guys, tax back. Remember tech. If they brought back tack, I don't know how I would feel. Tack was designed to be the, uh, this, the video game spinoff of an animated TV show. And it didn't come out. The TV show didn't come out till after like four games. And by then, nobody gave a shit because the only the, only the first one's really okay.

[00:42:00] Like I remember the second one being all right. The second one is okay, but it's like half the length and it's like, like, yeah. And then the, and then the third one's what, like the great Juju challenge. And it doesn't even look like an actual, like it looks like a spinoff. It's the budget was clearly slashed in half. And they were like, we don't have enough money to actually make a game. So we're just going to make a bunch of races. Have fun. Yeah. The car racing spinoff, your Pac-Man world rally, but Hey, that studio's still around making Harry Potter games. So good for them, I guess.

[00:42:30] Oh yeah. That was avalanche. Yeah. Crazy. Platformers. I do like me some. You guys had a bad, well, no, not all bad, but I mean, we still had like, you know, our Mario sunshines and our Sonic heroes are doing okay. Back in Daxter, the SpongeBob battle for bikini bottom. Simpsons didn't run. It's not a platformer, but still, you've never seen that again, but,

[00:43:00] I keep hearing rumors that they're trying to do something with it and run, but I don't know what that means. There's like way too many fucking people in that cookie jar and they just don't know. That's going to be such a mess to figure out. Yeah. But it really needs to be figured out because, you know, there's enough people to where I think they want it. Like the demand is there. And I mean, if battle for bikini bottom did so well with a demand, they're probably like, yeah, we could probably do the same with this, but who knows?

[00:43:32] I just don't know how you do it without a poo because there's no way you'd be allowed to do that again. Oh, they'll just, they'll just rip the audio from the original. Cause they're not going to have them rerecord their lines. It's like March compare like fucking what's, what's your name can barely do the March voice anymore. Yeah. Yeah. They'll probably just do what they do about for bikini bottom. Take the original audio tracks, remaster them. And there you go. You need to remaster them. That's another game. I could just tell it because they gave it away battle for bikini bottom. But I'm just saying a poo hasn't been on for a decade now. I don't think they'd even know in the game.

[00:44:03] Yeah. He's an entire playable character. Next, everybody got all upset about a poo, which I never quite understood, but I mean, I don't know if that's as offensive as Bubsy or not. I was actually, was Bubsy ever caught at the club, uh, saying shouting slurs at others passers by, or did we gloss over that? I can believe it. I can believe it. Oh, that was already light foot. Nevermind. See, I was like, I was actually a joke in this game that was not aged. Well,

[00:44:33] and I was like, you know, they actually didn't do too bad. All things considered. Yeah. Honestly, the only person they really shit on in this game is Bubsy. I think that's how it has to be. I mean, that's why we all came, right? We want to see Bubsy fail. So everyone else is in the game. Also wants to see Bubsy fail. My favorite. His girlfriend doesn't even know his name. I don't think she's his girlfriend. I just think she exists. She just hangs around. Yeah. I don't think she,

[00:45:02] she's not even remotely interested in him. I don't think. I was trying to be polite, but yeah, I know. I think she was like his secretary in the fucking, the pilot. Oh God. Like not a secretary. That pilot was dog shit, but that's besides the point. Um, is it better or worse than that 3d Donkey Kong show? That's at least funny. Like for the wrong reasons, the, the, the Bubsy thing is just like you, it starts playing. You're like, just end it, please.

[00:45:32] It doesn't, it doesn't have them singing about how their love is like a golden banana. Okay. Well, that would involve him having to sing. And we know that's not in his contract. I will say one of my favorite, like funny moments from this game was like one of the death, because the death animations were pretty funny. Like the one where he almost gets fucking like spiked. Yeah. Yeah. So those are pretty nice, but I didn't see him that often. Cause the game wasn't really that difficult. I saw them a lot because fuck the cannons.

[00:46:00] Fucking hit those cannons. So I mean, yeah, also the one that elicited a slight chuckle from me is when he goes in the water, like responsibilities and water. That one was good. I liked the, uh, the one I liked the most is where he face plants into the ground and then it just pauses. And you just hear him go, like, just like a sad sigh. Like, I was like, that one's pretty good. It's like, that one was pretty good. It's like, why am I here? Why am I doing this? Even he's just like,

[00:46:30] why am I here? I didn't put on a tie for this shit. I saw most of the, uh, most of the death animations. Cause I did go for all the, uh, the blueprints and some of those blueprint challenges were stupid. Like there's the one where you have to climb those like slowly sinking towers. And I'm like, I hate this. I really, I feel like I found all my blueprints by accident. I, there was this one where I felt like, Oh, I'm doing the whole level. And then I'm at the end. It's just a blueprint there.

[00:47:00] Oh, I guess I got to go back and, uh, play the level for real. Now. Some of them are really out of the way. Like, cause some of them are like, you find like a random like pipe that you could just jump in, in the middle of the level that you'll only notice if you're looking for it. Um, I know there's one where it's literally the start of the level and you literally just go back and jump off a cliff and there's like an, a secret area that's just chilling there. And it's like, Oh, neat. It could just be that I'm used to these kinds of games,

[00:47:30] or you explore around. Like I found all this stuff fairly easy. I didn't have an issue finding any, but also you're not really a platformer guy, Bill. I mean, I like my platformers. I just, I also don't like the dilly dally. I like the, I'm more of a linear platformer guy. That's fair. That's fair. It's very sparse of enemies, this game, which is, I don't know how much. Yeah. Like combat is nothing. You have a not homing attack in this game. Yeah. You like a body slam into things and that's it.

[00:48:01] I, on one hand, it's fine because like I keep saying the less of this we have to do, the better it is for Bubsy. But at the same time, there's these big empty spaces with no things trying to actively hunt you unless it's boss time. Yeah, it was weird, but it felt like the game was more just focused on the platforming, you know, and not really any actual combat. I will say like platforming was fine. They split all the fricking commands on all these things, but they couldn't be like, Oh,

[00:48:30] here's a button where you just punch things a little bit and you're fine. Well, they really wanted to rip off Sonic and just gave him a homing attack. Yeah, basically it's a homing attack. Yeah. But it's like not as fun as the homing attack because it, it doesn't feel, it just doesn't feel right. The more we talk about this game, the more I realized this is just a 3d Sonic game. Yeah. He even rolls up in a ball and sometimes he makes the jump and sometimes he doesn't. Exactly. Yeah.

[00:48:57] This is a Sonic game of Aaron Hansen designed it. You know, you know, I kind of hate him. I hate when he plays Sonic. Not necessarily for the Sonic stuff. It's for some other stuff, but you know, but whatever. That's fine. Look, when all I know is, is that when I was in college, those awesome videos were the best. And then,

[00:49:27] then it went all downhill from there. And they started a let's play channel. I mean, I didn't, I didn't enjoy the awesome videos when they were around. So I get it. And he was still the less problematic guy from the original game. Crump. So yeah. Yeah. Have you guys tried watching John Tron recently? No, I did. I never liked John Tron. Yeah. He's gone in a very different direction now. I didn't like game Crumps until he left. And then I was like, oh, okay.

[00:49:57] I can actually watch this now. And then you're, and then you realize John Tron, he just has a very specific era of comedy, you know, like just that style. You watch it now and you're like, yeah, this doesn't work anymore. It worked when I was in high school, but not, not really so much anymore. most of those early two thousands YouTubers did not age. Well, like, no, like I rewatched some old screw attack and every now and then I'm like, and that's not even getting into what, what,

[00:50:26] what Craig, what Craig does these days. That's just, Oh yeah. I've stumbled upon some of those top tens. And then I watch them. I'm like, I can't believe I actually believed some of these opinions. Yeah. Cause they always watch those. Cause they tried to, cause before I ever played Luigi's mansion, they were just like, yeah, Luigi's mansion is a shit game. And then I just had this idea in my head that it was a bad game. And then everyone's like, you're wrong. Go play the game. And I went and played it and I'm like, why did I believe these people forever? Like Luigi's mansion is amazing.

[00:50:57] See, my favorite of all time was like, they, they did the, the, the, they were doing like the top 10, top five Sonic games. And they mentioned how Sonic's like adventure one, like his transition to 3d was really good. And then like years later, they did worse 2d to 3d games. They talked about how Sonic's transition to 3d was terrible. And I'm just like, I mean, I mean, that's just like the, the, that was the prevailing internet opinion at the time. I know. It was just things where I was like, okay. People have bounced back and I think some people have overcorrected,

[00:51:26] you know, cause I try to say like Sonic adventure two is the best thing ever. And I'm like, no. Oh yeah. Cause their worst Sonic, um, in their, in their worst Sonic games, they, they put 3d blast over 06. And I'm just like, really? I was like, Oh yeah. They said R was the worst Sonic game. I'm like, yeah. And they were like, the music is crap. I'm like, no, it's not. The music is the one redeeming factor, but Sonic R is crap. Sonic R is a crap game for sure, but it's not,

[00:51:56] it's not the Sonic game. It's also not the worst. And it's not the worst. And yes. Yeah. Like, like the best Sonic R experiences, go finding the tunes and then just listening to them. And then there you go. You're happy. I can feel the sunshine. What would be the worst Sonic game? Since we're not talking about Bubsy anymore. What would be the worst Sonic? Sonic Labyrinth, right? Labyrinth is up there as a Sonic game. The little bit I played of Labyrinth. I was like,

[00:52:25] I kind of don't hate this, but it doesn't, it's not a Sonic game though. It's something completely different. Sonic Genesis. Maybe that that's pretty bad. That GBA port is pretty bad. Sonic. Boom. Boom. Boom just exists. Boom just exists. Seeker Rings. Seeker Rings. Seeker Rings is pretty bad. Chronicles. I think Chronicles might be one of the worst. Yeah. We got to cover that one of these days. I don't want to play it again.

[00:52:54] Like I, I'll play Sonic 06. Cause I find enjoyment out of that game. Yeah. For reasons. Yeah. I can't even do that. That's fine. Chronicles though. That is a, see, it's relevant because Bubsy wants to be Sonic so bad. Yeah. Yeah. And it just like, no, just doesn't work, man. Maybe he should just work on being a good uncle and father and whatever other relationships he has with. Where are those, where are those kids parents? I think they're not, they're not Bubsy's kids.

[00:53:24] They're, yeah, I don't need, I don't need to be implanted with the idea that Bubsy fucks. I don't, I don't need to know that. Well, no, he gets cucked the entire game. Yeah. So I don't even know who would, but yeah, I don't, are they like his nieces and nephews? Yeah. It's like a, it's like a Donald duck situation thing. I guess. Just random niece and nephew. They just exist. I like that. They made the, the, the, the girl one.

[00:53:54] They made her like a typical teenager. I'm just like, who hates everything. I mean, they didn't really have a personality before other than annoying children that were in Bubsy too. Yeah. And the pilot, the boy one is still that they made the girl one. Just like hate everything, which I kind of vibed with respect, respect. She was like the most relatable person in this game. Cause she was like, I hate this. I hate being here. And I'm like, like, good. Someone understands. Oh yeah.

[00:54:24] I just relieved when it was over. Yeah. Oh yeah. I just remembered one Bubsy gag and I, I didn't really like, I get the joke, but it doesn't make any sense when you go and sit and do the training stuff. And he goes, VR, whatever happened to good old CRT gaming? Yeah. That could have used another rewriter three. They almost had something with that one. Yeah. It annoyed me.

[00:54:53] Also like the whole like plot of this game is literally these aliens just steal their fleece, but then they just leave their ship there for Bubsy to easily commandeer. Like don't think about it too hard, Bill. Okay. Chad GPT didn't think about it that hard either. No, they clearly did. Cause that has to be the writer. Cause there is no, it's fine. I agree, Steve. It's fine. And this whole game is fine.

[00:55:22] That's the trouble with this whole game. Yes. We, we keep running ourselves into a quarter because they just, it's fine. Yeah. Like there's not a lot there for people to talk about. Like, it's not like a streamer friendly game either in terms of like moments or anything. And it's not like, it doesn't have like an interesting story or any kind of like deep gameplay mechanics, you know, you know, like, like we're talking about this the way you would talk about it. Like with like your coworkers, like, Oh, I played this game over the weekend. How is it? That's all right.

[00:55:53] Some funky things. It's fine. You know, I'll be at a weekend. If you don't go for everything, you can beat it in one sitting. I didn't because I beat it in two settings. It took me to, cause I fell asleep like during the first half. You said that you fell asleep during it. I did start playing it at like late at night. So like that does happen. But like by the, I was like, I finished all of world one and started world two and I was like falling asleep. So I was like, yeah, I should probably stop. I'll do this tomorrow.

[00:56:23] I mean, the other fact is, is that Atari, the current Atari has things on sale all the goddamn time. So Atari grams. Yeah. This is going to be 15 bucks right around Christmas time. Maybe even 10. If there was already been on, it was on sale before it even came out. So yeah, I got, we all got the pre-order discount of $3. I'm like, I'll take it. I'm like tempted to get a physical just for collector's purposes. But like, I'm also like,

[00:56:52] you gotta hang that poster on your wall. Uh, there's not really a lot of room. Hang that poster next to your Yukiko poster and be like, this is, this is gaming's true couple right here. I almost got the switch to version. It was, but they wanted 50 bucks for that. No, that's the only physical, you know, because I don't think it came out physically on any. It's the possum edition. Go to bed. No, they said that. I didn't say it. I know.

[00:57:22] It's too early for bed. Uh, well, say it made me realize me and the hollow is actually a pretty good game. I'm sure it is. I just still don't care. That's fair, but they need, they need your money to keep the yacht club alive. Otherwise they got there. Well, they got their money, but also I got like mixed messaging on that where they're like, Oh, for golden. We, if we get a half a mill, they got half a mill. And then the main guy was like, man,

[00:57:51] I really like it. If it's sold a million. It's like, why are you disappointed? Like the lights are on. What are you complaining about? Well, I think everyone would like if their game sold a million. Yeah. I think Mina will over time. Probably much sooner than Bubsy will. Not me checking. I did not find any sales data on this game at all. So I don't know anything. I do like the, uh, the explanation apparently that, um, the reason why he can do the yarn moves because like Virgil was

[00:58:21] experimenting on him or something. He just never noticed. I saw this in a movie once. It was called Sonic, the hedgehog to a great movie. Yeah, it is a good movie. Or the fourth one. When does the Bubsy movie come out? No, no, no, no. It's only, it's only on beta. It's a, it's a YouTube red exclusive. Is that still a thing? No. Well, YouTube,

[00:58:51] it exists as YouTube premium, but they don't do. It'll come out. It'll come out on to be. And then our buddy, Tony will be like, guys, we got to watch this fucking stupid shit on to be. And then that's how we watch it. It's like laser team. Like watch that recently. And I was like, All right. Yeah. Well, maybe they should put it on laser disc. Bring back laser disc. No.

[00:59:19] If you ever watched a movie on laser disc. No, it's a pain in the ass. People seem to love laser disc. Well, another tangent, a buddy of mine, many years ago, just, I guess like inherited, like a laser disc player and a bunch of laser discs. He just like got a bunch of them. And I was like, Oh, cool. Let's sit down. He had some pretty good movies. I was like, let's sit down and watch them. And like every movie was at least like two or three discs and you have to get up and flip the thing every time.

[00:59:49] And there are these, like, it's like a DVD, the size of a record, you know? And it, yeah. And it's like, yeah, the quality is solid and everything. And you'll get the frame by frame mode and some other cool stuff, but it's, it's just not as convenient as popping into VHS and just watching the whole thing. Like five to get up like three or four times in the middle of a two hour movie. It's like, this sucks, man. You know, it's only, it's only worth it for who frame Roger rabbit. Thank you.

[01:00:17] But there's a thing called the internet now where you could just look that up. Yeah. I know. I know that was, that was a whole big thing, whole big thing in Steve's time. We didn't own laser. Most of us didn't have laser disc players. Those shits were expensive. Yeah. I mean, I always dream of finding one at the fleece, fleece store, the golden fleece store, the thrift store and a bunch of, but I never do.

[01:00:46] I've seen players, but like, not like the actual laser discs. Cause like, you don't see them that often anymore. There are some stores by me that sell them and they're not badly priced, but they're also like really difficult to like store and maintain. Cause I mean, yeah, they're like similar to vinyl records, but they're hard to store the exact same way. Cause they're just so much thicker. Cause they have to accommodate for so many discs. Cause then you can open the thing up like a gatefold. And, you know, like,

[01:01:15] unless you're like a diehard movie collector or, you know, that kind of stuff, it's just really not worth your time. See, my favorite is when you go to a flea market and you see the guy selling the pile of HD DVDs. And I'm just like, Oh yeah, I'll take all of those. That was a time. You got to use that HD drive for the three 60 for something. And I don't have this fair HD DVD draft. I should go get it. And then, and then buy every HD DVD. There wasn't that many. No,

[01:01:44] there was because Blu-ray porn went to Blu-ray and that was it. I don't think that's why Blu-ray chose. I think it was because like all the main movie studios were just like, eh, we'll just take Blu-ray instead. I know, I know with the, with beta max and VHS, it was because of pornography then. Yeah. But I think by the Blu-ray time, I think most people were watching their stuff on four ADP videos streaming from, from websites. You know, the ones. Yeah.

[01:02:13] I know a bunch of the ones too. Bubsy knows a bunch of them. Steve, Steve bookmarked all of them. I'm not bookmarking anything. That's what if people need, someone needs to borrow my laptop. I don't know who uses their laptop. Who uses their computer for that these days? Oh, I'm talking about 2000, whatever this was not. Yeah. Back then. Okay. That's fair. Yeah. It's not now. Nevermind what I do now.

[01:02:43] Nowadays. Don't worry about it. Yeah. I was pointing to was not a game stack. The, uh, speaking of stacks and data, I did pull up a Steve database and there's 20 people playing Bubsy 4D right now. I wonder how those 20 people are feeling. They're probably either like, just like, yeah, this is great. Or they're frustrated, frustrated as fuck. Or maybe they just left it on and forgot. Or any of them, the dev team.

[01:03:14] You know, when you go to a steam page and it's like, Oh, the developers playing this game right now. They got the, they're, they're developing the DLC where we play as Arnold. Oh yeah. Yeah. All he does is just stand there going, I don't want to do this. Don't do it. I don't. It's the same price as the game. And I hate myself. Cause I would buy it. Yeah. I know. Right. Uh, wait for the DLC,

[01:03:43] which adds 12 extra levels. A whole new world. That's like half the game. More than half. And then you get the complete edition later on. The game of the year edition, the, the, the cat pleated edition. Yeah. Feline of the year. You know, they do that. Like some bad pun. And they'd find the one magazine left. That we call a game of the year.

[01:04:12] They just bring back a PS extreme and get them to give it the gold X award. I guess. I just remember how, uh, later copies of beautiful Joe was like, it's game of the year. According to USA today or New York times or whatever. One paper gave that to them. See, I still love the fact that there's a lot of people that think that would gold X war was a made up thing. No, it was real. Like it was an actual award. Like you can, because there are other games that got it, which is fun. But, um, you can, you can't prove, you can't prove that to me, Bill,

[01:04:42] but that's fake. I'll, post in Aaron's server of the other game. it was AI generated in 1995. Ironically, my, uh, my copy of Bubsy 3d doesn't have the gold X award on it, but like, I haven't done it. Oh, that's why it's so shitty. It was the unpatched edition. I do. I do love the, also that quote in the corner that like nitro red, like dissected and figured out where it came from.

[01:05:10] because it was literally like three unrelated like quotes that he, they just stuck together to make the game seem good. You do what you gotta do, man. See, now I just want to play beautiful Joe. That is a good game. I miss beautiful Joe. Maybe they'll reissue that someday. I wish. I really wish they would. I feel like that game would do better now than back in the day. Culture wise. It's like, it's, it's like super relevant now. Yeah. I love the fuck out of beautiful Joe back in the day.

[01:05:39] The fuck out of him. Henshinagogo. Henshinagogo. Um, what was the other game they made? Uh, Demon Turf. Um, yeah. Demon Turf. Yeah. I, I'd be willing to give it a try, but I don't know. It didn't get, they said it, they said it has generally favorable reviews, but they're not, it's not that much higher than Bubsy 40 is. Yeah. It's like, it has like a 72 or something. Yeah. It's like, it's better, I guess. So what you're saying is they found the right people for the job.

[01:06:10] They found a company that's just, well, to be fair, the, uh, the Wooly Strikes Back was also made by a competent dev, and Paws on Fire were made by competent devs. They just, uh. Yeah, Wooly was, uh, Black Forest Games, right? Wooly was Black Forest, and, uh, Paws on Fire was. The Bit Trip Runner boys. The Bit Trip people. Um, and they, they, they made Bit Trip Runner. Yeah. Yeah. Black Forest Games. I can't wait for that. I can't wait for their last run in game. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh,

[01:06:39] I got bad news for you. It's being made by a better developer. Yeah. Yes. Or the bones of one anywhere. True. I didn't, I didn't play the garden for, I can't tell you how that was. It's, it's actually funny. I played a teeny bit of it. I liked it, but it's, it's not like, it's not like Ninja Gaiden one or two black, you know, it, it does play different. It's actually, it's kind of funny to me that last run in game, the entire situation is like identical to, um,

[01:07:10] to metal gear rising where it was like, it was announced and then it quietly got canceled and then they brought it back made by platinum. They're like, Oh, we can't make an action game. Who can make an action game? Oh, right. Those guys. I wanted to cut watermelons in half. God damn it. I still need to play rising. It's fine. It's like the most fine metal gear. It's actually too extreme for metal gear to be honest at times. It looks like I'd have a ball. It's a great game. It's just,

[01:07:40] it's, it's such a weird game. I mean, in the series, that's not saying much, especially because they like try to keep the stealth in at times, but then they're like, nah, just. I can't imagine. Everyone's much faster. Exactly. Yeah. Wear the sombrero. Yeah. Steve, what's your favorite platinum game before we get out of here? Oh, Bayonetta one or two.

[01:08:10] Good answers. Good answers. Bill. Is it near? No, not really. I, I, I like near, but I'm not like a near, like you're not a near head. Yeah. I still need to play through near. Trying to think what other games that platinum made. Bayonetta, Vanquish. Mad world. Did they make me? Oh yeah, they did make mad world. That was their first game. And I would love. Good one. I don't care what you all say.

[01:08:40] I, I just, I've tried playing it. I'm like, I love this game, but I just really wish it had a, uh, port with modern controls. I just cannot do the waggle for as long as it wants me to, but that's a me problem. Yeah. Well, back when I was a young adult, I only had a wee and we were, I get it. You brought all your arms to that one. You deal with it. Yeah. But like they did it with no more heroes. So please do it. Matter world. I think it would help. I'm like looking through their games.

[01:09:09] You're just a real big Anarchy Reigns fan. Am I even a platinum fan? That's, that's kind of my thought process right now. Say Bayonetta three and you're dead to me, Bill. Honestly, it's probably, it's, it's probably metal gear rising. To be honest. That's good. They made Star Fox zero. They did. And Star Fox card. Oh yeah. That the biggest monkey boy ever, man.

[01:09:37] It'd be great if platinum made a Star Fox game. Miyamoto supervising them every step of the way. Fuck. They made a game. Miyamoto went controls this. And they just went. Okay. I mean, if Star Fox was a character action game, that'd be kind of sick, but that'll never happen. Yeah. Yeah. Bill, come on, just say apply, just say vanquish. We can get out of here. I did. I said, I said,

[01:10:07] it's probably rising. That's probably. I'm going to play it. Yes. We did it boys. Much like Bubsy. We scraped across the finish line. We just got there. There's not much to say about this game. There really isn't. I mean, it's fine. Yeah, it's fine. If you want to play it, go for it. You're not going to, you're not going to hate it. Okay. Just give it a shot. I guess. Wait till it comes to like PlayStation plus. We're out with cheese or, you know, the Xbox train pass or whatever.

[01:10:36] And you'll be fine. You know, just play it there. It's, whatever you will ever play. Yes. And that is fine. And that makes it the best Bubsy game you'll ever play. Oh, easily, easily. Like in our ranking of Bubsy games, this is number one with a bullet. Unless you really like Bit Trip Runner, which, cause I might say pause on fire, but like, you have to really like Bit Trip Runner. And I'm, and I don't like those kinds of games. Anyways, I gave up after the second. And that game reminded me why. Yeah,

[01:11:06] that's, that's fair. Exactly. Some people love that series, but it's, I played two because I got it for free on my Vita and it's fine. Yeah. That's the best game. Perfectly fine game. Yep. All right, guys, let's go and do it for this random ass 3D on Bubsy 4D. So Steve, once again, thank you for coming on. You're, you're a real trooper for doing all this stuff, man. We, we love, and we appreciate you. I'm just doing my job, Threk. Threk. Well, good.

[01:11:36] And this is my payment. I can't give you money. So I'll just shower you in appreciation. Yes. Appreciate me more. I feed on. And we'll see you in a couple of weeks on a three, a proper 3D where we'll hopefully be talking about a better game, but who knows? Go to space. God damn it. Much like Bubsy. Oh yeah. That game is technically in space.

[01:12:06] You're right. Aren't all games technically in space? Cause we got, we got to get out of here. We got, we can't be answering these questions. All right. So thank you all for listening to this random ass 3D on, of course, part of the 3DO experience. I assume you're familiar with that. If not, go, go listen to it. It's in the same feed. If not, how did you find this feed? Random ass Bubsy super fan is listening to this and getting mad at us for not getting in deep on the lore. Um,

[01:12:35] please make yourselves known in the comments. So I will read it, laugh at it and not comment back. If you can tell us who wrote this game, we might consider it. Yes. Yeah. We'll have you on. We'll have you, we'll have you put on a list. You don't want to know what list. but say, uh, of course this podcast is a part of the, the super pod network, a great little network of, of podcasts, you know, super ghost, uh, bar silence, the elder trolls, novel console, Tommy's a bunch of like,

[01:13:05] you know, he, he's like, he, he's, he's turning into the AI podcast where they're just kind of swarming everywhere. Right. You know, you know, all this other, you know, goddamn bullshit. And then of course, uh, our buddy, Steve, here's a main show fine time. It's a very good, it's a very good podcast. You know, don't tell anybody, but it's the only one I regularly listen to. Oh, you, I'm sure you say that to all our super pod. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah.

[01:13:34] Thank you all for listening. Uh, and also make sure to listen to my show, Thrac Ops, or I talk about Chidi Bang Bang. Please do. Uh, and, and we'll see you guys eventually the next 3DL. It's still planned to be tales of perspective. Berseria, but who knows when the fuck that will be. So just hang in there. Okay. There might be, it could be a problem for me. There might be like a couple smaller 3DLs in between there. Yeah. Well, we'll, we'll see. Maybe, maybe, maybe we'll bring Steve on and talk about some other porn games.

[01:14:03] I thought you were going to have me on for Berseria. I'm like, it's been a few minutes, but I could probably pick my way through it. No, we can't have you on for good video games. Are we done? No, no, we got to talk about Luna 3D or whatever the fuck it's called. You guys know about lunar all you want. I'm, I'm good. No, no, not, not that. There was some like stupid garbage that was like, anyways, bad joke. Okay. Anyways, guys, thank you all for listening and we will see you all in the future.

[01:14:34] Bye. Bye. See you later. Bye. On a 3DO system.