Press B 158: Finish in 5 minutes, with 2 minutes to cuddle

This week GP returns with a pep in his step, and a hankering to run down the virtues of game speed running. From the might of Brazil, to blind running Battle Toads the crew banter about a challenging spin on playing retro classics.

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00:00 --> 00:03 I can finish in under five minutes. And that leaves two minutes for cuddling.
00:04 --> 00:05 Today on.
00:23 --> 00:25 Nobody'S going to talk over this intro.
00:25 --> 00:27 No canon now.
00:27 --> 00:29 You're almost there.
00:29 --> 00:32 We almost had a perfect intro. He's not looking.
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00:33 --> 00:33 GP.
00:34 --> 00:49 Everybody. Hello, and welcome back. Hi, welcome back to press B to cancel the show where the games are made up and the points don't matter. My name is GP, and with me today are four of my probably top five friends. And let's just go in no particular order.
00:50 --> 00:51 Sinister, how are you today?
00:53 --> 00:55 I'm feeling really fast today.
00:55 --> 00:56 How are you?
00:56 --> 01:04 I'm doing good, thank you. Like I said, good to be back. I've been gone for a couple of months. It was only supposed to be a three hour tour, but here we are.
01:04 --> 01:06 And I'm happy to be back, seeing.
01:06 --> 01:10 All of your smiling faces. Chard. How are you today, Mr. Chard?
01:10 --> 01:16 Monk, I know why you picked Sunda Star first, and it isn't going to work, buddy.
01:16 --> 01:16 Okay.
01:17 --> 01:23 Otherwise I can't have him. No one can burn this whole place to the ground.
01:24 --> 01:28 I'm good. Apparently. A little fired up, but I'm all right.
01:28 --> 01:34 I love it, though. You're going to need that rage for today. Werewolf. How are you, sir?
01:34 --> 01:43 I'm good. I actually random tangent already. I just noticed that shelf behind Chard, the little cart with all the books.
01:44 --> 01:46 Oh, yeah, that's the wise cart.
01:46 --> 01:48 I recognize that cart. We have one of those.
01:48 --> 01:49 Nice.
01:50 --> 01:54 Is that the ordinance from Ikea?
01:54 --> 01:59 Yes, actually, it might be the, umlada I don't know.
01:59 --> 02:11 The, umlada what is an ordinance? I think that is the word for a mennonite wire basket card community. Oh, it's wire never mind.
02:11 --> 02:13 Yeah, it's the wire basket card.
02:13 --> 02:17 That's too high tech and sick. Jake, welcome in. How are you, sir?
02:17 --> 02:19 It's good to see you. Apparently, I joined the wrong podcast.
02:19 --> 02:24 I didn't realize this is press B for furniture talk. I'm missing out.
02:25 --> 02:32 Well, okay. So furniture is kind of the exact opposite of today's subject matter because it takes me forever to build anything.
02:36 --> 02:37 Build your own topic.
02:39 --> 02:45 When we got Ikea, I got really good at speed running some of those furniture builds, my friend.
02:45 --> 02:54 I think Ikea furniture instructions are the quintessential 21st century exercise in nonverbal communication.
02:54 --> 03:04 I was going to say it's like a language of its own. You have to realize what stick you have to understand how to speak stick figure.
03:04 --> 03:05 That's funny.
03:05 --> 03:16 I work in manufacturing, so I have to build stuff literally all day. I actually speed run Genie units, so nine minutes and 52 seconds. Let's go, baby.
03:16 --> 03:19 Did you say G units genie?
03:19 --> 03:20 Not g units.
03:20 --> 03:21 Genie. Okay.
03:21 --> 03:25 I'm like, yo. Is 50 Cent listening? Good to see you.
03:25 --> 03:26 Listen to the podcast.
03:26 --> 03:27 Okay.
03:27 --> 03:28 50 Cent.
03:29 --> 03:30 Yes.
03:30 --> 03:35 Today's topic is is he Nigerian or wherever it is that they love us.
03:36 --> 03:37 Don't offend.
03:37 --> 03:38 Zimbabwe.
03:38 --> 03:40 Zimbabwe. Listener.
03:42 --> 03:46 Okay. We still love Zimbabwe.
03:47 --> 03:47 We do.
03:47 --> 03:49 Press GD unit.
03:49 --> 04:29 Yes, I like that. Okay. So anyway, I should actually say what today's topic is, and it's speed running. The guys asked what we should talk about today since it is my first time back since late March when we were doing March radness. And during my hiatus, I had this interesting conversation with a cousin of mine who's not I don't want to say anti speed running, but he's always been of the mind that speed running kind of diminishes the spectacle, the overall event of what a game is. And after Zelda Tears of the Kingdom came out, he had said somebody had already beaten it in the records in like 90 hours.
04:29 --> 04:30 Hold on.
04:30 --> 04:34 Tears not to put them on the spot. Is this biz?
04:34 --> 04:43 No, sorry. You need to refer to it as that game from that company that we don't want to sue us. We're sorry.
04:43 --> 05:02 Nintendo, right of the case came out and people beat it post taste. And that was the first time I stopped and thought that kind of takes all the fun out of playing a new game. And it got me thinking, as a speed runner from the days of your.
05:02 --> 05:04 Do I still hold fast to those.
05:04 --> 05:10 The belief that speed running is in itself its own art form and dare I say, sport, which we'll talk about.
05:10 --> 05:13 That particular aspect later on.
05:13 --> 05:26 So before I dive too much into my own thoughts and opinions sick. Jake, where do you come down on this? Do you speedrun and do you think that it is in fact a valuable part of the community?
05:27 --> 05:31 Well, I am the former world record holder for Double Dragon.
05:31 --> 05:31 Yeah, you are.
05:31 --> 05:42 Not the good one, the one in the Master system. Although I like it until literally everybody in Brazil beat my record. It's something like twelve minutes right there.
05:43 --> 05:44 Brazil.
05:45 --> 05:47 We got to take this motherfucker down.
05:48 --> 05:48 No.
05:48 --> 05:50 Brazil is like brazil?
05:51 --> 05:55 They are very territorial when it comes to the Master system because they had it straight up through the 90s.
05:55 --> 05:56 Right.
05:56 --> 06:06 So when there's a game on that leaderboard, it's just all Brazil. They are amazingly talented people over there and just ruthless on the one Canadian.
06:06 --> 06:11 Who'S the only place where you could see 200 million people beat Jake.
06:14 --> 06:16 He was press Brazil to cancel.
06:17 --> 06:23 Nice obragado and send pro Blema.
06:23 --> 06:24 Thank you.
06:25 --> 06:35 I know, boy, I speed rude occasionally. I do want to try and get that record back. I think I can do it.
06:35 --> 06:39 Portuguese jake versus Brazil. I love it.
06:39 --> 06:47 Actually, that'd be a YouTube series. Jake versus Brazil. I just speed runs massive system games. That's actually not a bad idea. We should do that.
06:47 --> 06:51 The Canadian smoke blower versus Brazil.
06:52 --> 06:54 My father sent pilgrims.
06:54 --> 06:59 If Scott Pilgrim can take down the world, surely you can handle Brazil.
06:59 --> 07:09 That's true. At least I'm not getting Luther Meant moniker. I forget the question. GP, how do I feel about speedrunning?
07:09 --> 07:10 What do you think about speed running.
07:11 --> 07:11 Okay.
07:12 --> 08:11 My take on it is, does it spoil the game? I mean, if you're going to do it the first time, sure. But who actually speedruns games from the get go? I didn't speed run Double Dragon when I first played it. I played it multiple times the usual way. I know there's one guy who played Tears of the Kingdom. There's always that one guy. It's like with every World of Warcraft expansion, there's always that one guy who the stroke of midnight has already mastered every single raid just so he can throw his name out there. It's like that with everything. But in general, people aren't speed running games for the first time. They go through it. They have to play through it normally or usually the usual way. And then once they've mastered it, then they want to do it faster. I think it's a really fun way to add an extra challenge to a game. There's many different ways to get some more value out of retro games, right, for this chivos or speed running. So I think it's totally a valid way to play a game, but I don't think you should speed run a game just for the sake of beating me, the one to beat it first. I think that's a little bit silly.
08:11 --> 08:29 Yeah, I think those are good points and valid points. I like the parallel that you drew between speed running and Shivas. I think that's a valid opinion. I also want to celebrate you for answering a speed running question in twelve minutes. Thank you.
08:29 --> 08:30 Thank you.
08:36 --> 08:38 That has to be a soundbite.
08:38 --> 08:39 I am Brazil.
08:41 --> 08:43 That has to be T shirts, right?
08:44 --> 08:45 I am Brazil.
08:47 --> 08:49 Soy Brazil.
08:49 --> 08:50 Yes.
08:50 --> 08:51 Soy brazil.
08:51 --> 09:00 Okay. Werewolf, how about you? Do you speed run? Have you speed ran? And what are your thoughts on its validity in the community?
09:01 --> 09:45 Okay, so I've tried speed running in the past. It never works out for me. I tend to lean toward trying to do all the things in the game. So there's only a couple of times where I've sort of tried speed running. Well, before I knew speed running was even a thing, I tried going through Mega Man X in under an hour, and I want to say I was like 1415 at the time. I managed it. I was proud of myself. So in that regard, yeah, I guess I kind of tried speed running, but I know the record now is something stupid, like 28 minutes or 32 minutes or something like that. That's not going to happen. I'm not going to come anywhere close to that.
09:45 --> 09:45 Right.
09:46 --> 10:11 But I've tried it with like, Symphony of the Night again. Well, before I knew speed running was a thing and I would get really far and then I'd be like, but I want to go do all these other things. So I completely sidetrack and just do everything anyway. So I'm not the speed running type, but I enjoy watching speedruns from time to time. I like watching, like, Zelda randomizer speedruns and stuff like that. Those are super. Like, the races, especially. Those are super cool.
10:11 --> 10:12 Oh, they're great.
10:12 --> 10:12 Yeah.
10:12 --> 10:52 So I like watching that kind of stuff. But for the most part, I'm not really big on speed running. There was one point I was almost the top of a leaderboard for a speed run because it had not had anything submitted. I played through three Doherty Dwarves for the Saturn, and my gameplay was, like hour and ten minutes or something. It would not have stayed at the top had I submitted it. But I'm kind of glad I didn't do it, because now I know that the first person to submit for a game becomes moderator for the game. I don't want to deal with that, but that would have been funny to be the first person to have a world record in three Dirty Dwarves just.
10:52 --> 10:57 Because if you're moderating that, you can just shoot everybody down and be like, no.
11:02 --> 11:05 This looks like you did a mod hack on it. I'm tired.
11:06 --> 11:07 You definitely started.
11:07 --> 11:11 Sorry. It needs to be a model one Saturn with a 3D controller.
11:12 --> 11:20 No, just change real hardware. You hold up your console and say it has to be on this machine, this specific machine.
11:20 --> 11:21 This one right here.
11:21 --> 11:22 Right.
11:23 --> 11:34 And I can prove that it wasn't. Anyway. No, that's great. See, this is kind of what I was hoping for. I didn't want us all to kind of come down on the exact same side of this thing, because I want there to be some dialogue, and I.
11:34 --> 11:37 Want us to really not dissect it.
11:37 --> 11:59 Because, again, it's a surface concept. It's like golf. This is why I was saying is it like a sport. There are sports out there where the object of the game is to play the least amount of the game. And in that way, speed running is like golf. You win by playing the least of it. Anyway, but again, I was actually thinking.
11:59 --> 12:11 Speed running is kind of the exact opposite of Bob Ross, right? There are no happy little accidents. There are only mistakes.
12:11 --> 12:15 I want to point out that you've now gotten twice out of me tonight.
12:17 --> 12:19 I'm going for the hat trick, my friend.
12:20 --> 12:22 I'll throw my hat on the rink.
12:22 --> 12:23 I'll do it nice.
12:23 --> 12:34 I know you will, you hockey loving son of a bitch. So with that transition charred, what do.
12:34 --> 12:38 You think about rum? Sorry. I saw kraken and I got thirsty.
12:38 --> 12:39 I love rum.
12:39 --> 12:42 What do you think about speed running? What do you speed run, if anything?
12:42 --> 12:44 Which we all know you do.
12:44 --> 12:45 Oh, my God.
12:45 --> 12:47 Yes. Love that.
12:47 --> 12:49 Not a sponsor, by the way.
12:49 --> 12:53 Sorry, YouTube. Sorry, YouTube.
12:53 --> 12:53 Not yet.
12:53 --> 12:54 You didn't drink it. It's okay.
12:54 --> 12:55 Juice.
12:55 --> 12:56 It's fine. Juice?
12:57 --> 12:59 We never drink on stream.
13:00 --> 13:08 It's probably no juice. It's funny to me because I was thinking to myself, when we talk about speed running.
13:08 --> 13:12 I'm always thinking of, like Wolf said.
13:12 --> 13:37 Mega Man X. I did some speed running of Mega Man X when I first got into speed running because I was watching one of a classic speedrun streamer, Rift 20 Xx do his stuff. And he was like the aforementioned he was trying to get down to that 30 minutes stuff. And I went, you know what? Same goddamn thing with RA. I was like, I'm going to give this a shot, just see what happens. And then I kind of got into it, and I was having fun with it.
13:37 --> 13:40 Now, to Jake's point, to kind of.
13:40 --> 13:57 Echo Jake's point, I like to beat a game fully before I start speed running it. So to me, I don't think the first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to start speed running this game. When it comes out, I want the full, rich experience. I want the story. I want all the stuff to go with it.
13:57 --> 13:58 Then I will figure out how to.
13:59 --> 14:09 Do the rest of it from there, if I decide to do it. I'm not an avid speed runner. And then I thought about it. I was like, well, I used to do Free Enterprise, final Fantasy Four, free enterprise, randomizer races.
14:09 --> 14:09 Love that.
14:09 --> 14:28 I used to do Final Fantasy Six, World Collide. I was doing that for a long time because I was trying to get faster at that. But I mean, that's not the whole story, right? They're mods. They're literally race mods where you go and find everything is randomized. You go find it's. The same thing with Link to the Past. I did that too. My fastest time in Link to the Past is 8 hours.
14:28 --> 14:31 So killing it. Anyways.
14:33 --> 14:44 I always like to take that's top ten. Yeah, easily. I'm right there below Brazil. If I take a game I'm going to play, I want to play the whole thing and get the whole enrichment.
14:44 --> 14:46 Like, if I were to play we're.
14:46 --> 15:23 Going to talk about it because I've been talking about it this morning. If I wanted to play Dark Soul Three again since I've beaten it, and I've kind of had the whole fill of the story, now, I would be like, how can I do this faster? And then I would speed run that and figure out what we're supposed to do with that. It but it's just to add an extra challenge to the game. I don't want glory. I'm not in, like, for leaderboards. I don't give a shit about that. It's just like, how can I make this game more challenging than it already is? And that's where I would start doing the speed running stuff. I'm not speed running Dark Souls or Demon Souls or any of that shit. So don't think anybody I'm going to do that. But if I were, that's how I'd play it. I'd play the full game. I'd beat it entirely.
15:23 --> 15:24 Then I go, you know, what?
15:24 --> 15:26 I like this so much, let's do it again.
15:26 --> 15:27 Sekiro.
15:27 --> 16:32 I could probably speed run Sekiro now, try and figure out how to do that since I've already beaten it. So that's my opinion. Again, I think it's like a sport kind of thing, too. It's really cool to watch people do 100% or any percents or whatever modifications they're running on their own channel, their own thing to do, and watch how they do it. No zips. Mega Man One, like, no zip runs are incredibly fun to watch. And to see people do Glitch runs and stuff, it's mind blowing. Like, people beating games in five minutes. That should take you at least an hour to do. It's cool to watch. I'll admit it. It's very entertaining. I don't have the patience to learn all the little stuff because I specifically remember people being like, I got to jump. Like click, click, jump. Okay, click, click, jump, click, jump. Like, they do it over and over again till they get it nailed. And I do not have the patience for that. So props to you, GP, because I know you are on some leaderboards and you've sped run some extremely difficult games. I don't have the wherewithal to do that stuff. So that's my opinion about the whole speed or anything.
16:32 --> 16:33 Right on.
16:33 --> 17:05 I think there's some really good points there. And actually, to go back to what Wolf was saying, because what you were saying was, Wolf, you're kind of a completionist. You'll get 100% of the things whenever. And there are certain things, especially like Mega Man X or any of those that I've put some thought into. Like, I could do that. But I know I'm going to have to do the 100% completionist run because I've always done that. I have a hard time not doing that. It wasn't until the Mega Man Damage randomizer that I even started playing X Two without collecting the zero parts.
17:06 --> 17:08 So up until then, it was just.
17:08 --> 17:28 I was betting 1000 for 100% on that. But, yeah, I get that. My issue is, and I'll go into this more after we talk to Sinisters, I'm a bit of an asshole, but I'll bury the lead on that for a moment. Sinister, where do you come down with this? Do you speedrun anything other than Mario One, and what are your thoughts?
17:28 --> 17:33 Okay, so I'm glad you brought up 95%.
17:36 --> 17:37 Recently.
17:39 --> 17:48 I anti speedrun the Bard's tail because bard's Tail, too, because as much as I love that game, fuck the Snares at the end.
17:48 --> 17:52 Anyway. Sorry, YouTube. No.
17:52 --> 18:20 So you brought up Super Mario, and I will say I don't speedrun, but there is something a little there's that Serotonin release or whatever, that hits like four one where four one where I got it to the point that I could just literally run from front to back. Just keep that button or the DPAD over to the right.
18:20 --> 18:21 Just keep it going right.
18:22 --> 19:25 And I had an experience with Von Kaiser in Punch Out where I figured out a trick that I could get repeated stars to the point that like, okay, I've built up three stars. Just nail him with super uppercuts and he's done. It was a little bit of a speedrun technique, but I haven't ever done anything noteworthy. One of the benefits of going last out of all this conversation is the Brevity thing. So I'll just say I agree with everybody else. I'm kidding. I'll go into what I want to talk about. But no, I'm a completionist, and I've had to give some of that up. Like Elder Scrolls Oblivion. I got into completionist hell and never, ever beat that game. Ever. So when Skyrim came out, I said, you know what? I'm just going to play the main story. I'm not going to completionist it. And then I'll go back afterwards. And I was really sad at how short the main story was.
19:25 --> 19:36 Well, that's a thing offshoot of that point. The development team for Elder Scrolls, they do an internal speed run before the game is released.
19:37 --> 19:37 Yeah.
19:40 --> 19:47 I think with Skyrim, a few people beat it in under 2 hours on the Dev team. Yeah.
19:48 --> 20:11 Honestly, I think if I went back and played that front to back, I don't know that I could get 2 hours, but I probably could get 3 hours and complete that game. I really probably could. It's not that long. It really is not that long. And if you know where to go, like, if you know your end goal and you don't follow all of the roads and everything, you could probably shave.
20:11 --> 20:14 Off a fourth of that game.
20:15 --> 20:40 Now, that said, I adore watching speedrunners because I really enjoy AI. There's two worlds to speedruns, and this is something that we'll probably talk about when we get into the ranking, right? There's most games there's an any percent, and that any percent is, hey, I've Glitched this. I beat it in five minutes.
20:40 --> 20:41 Right?
20:41 --> 20:58 Or there's the I've done like Super Mario. You do World One one to World 84 every single you don't do any warps, the whole warpless thing, whatever. And so I love that there's kind of two worlds to speed running where.
20:59 --> 21:02 There'S the glitch it and get it.
21:02 --> 21:13 Done as quickly as you can. And then there's the other side of it of let's run this front to back as fast as you can, as fast and as hard as you can. And I love watching both.
21:13 --> 21:16 I absolutely adore watching both.
21:16 --> 21:37 I probably like the glitching a little bit more because I love seeing those. Like when you were doing Battle Toads GP and you found the way into the tunnels, like glitching into the wall. I loved it. I loved it. Or the turbo tunnels, the Glitch there.
21:37 --> 21:51 Yeah, I like seeing a Glitch run maybe one or two times, and then I'm kind of done watching those just because the first time, I love seeing it. After that, I'm not all that interested.
21:53 --> 21:57 I'm with you. But it's more like when the person.
21:57 --> 22:02 Figures out how to glitch with consistency.
22:02 --> 22:29 At that point, I'm like, okay, we can move on. But it's watching the person figure out that pixel perfect entry or that pixel whatever, right? Catching that stuff is great. So, yeah, I'll admit after a while you're like, okay, now I understand the glitch. I can't do it, but I understand the glitch. But watching the person like, hey, that worked this time. What did I do? I've got to go back and redupplicate it.
22:29 --> 22:30 I love that bit.
22:30 --> 22:31 That's my thing.
22:31 --> 22:59 Watching speedrunners is like watching RA stuff for me because like you said, when you get the glitch or you figure out the thing, it's like watching someone get an achievement they've been working so hard at to get. So you're like, along for the journey. So if someone was starting up a speed run guys, I've never speedrun Mega Man Two before. We're going to figure it out and play it together. And then you watch them grow and do all the stuff that they're doing, and when they get that zip, you're like, oh, fuck out. It's like, I got that achievement.
22:59 --> 23:06 Finally watch them nail a jump to the point that they land and they hit the button right at the right time into the next piece.
23:07 --> 23:10 It feels like you're going with them on the journey and you're celebrating with them.
23:11 --> 23:12 I think that's a cool thing.
23:12 --> 23:13 What do you got, Jake?
23:13 --> 23:55 Well, it's neat to see, like, the zips, and I know there's a certain level of skill to pull off those glitches and tricks consistently. I've always been more the 100% runs. I love watching somebody who has mastered a game like Baltoads. The 100% run in Battodes is something to see where they go through the entire game. No warps, no strange glitches, no going through walls. And they just have to be good at everything that makes that game what it is. I definitely appreciate, like, Mega Man runs with zips, that's really cool. But to see someone go through Mega Man One without either the they're not cheats, but without those glitches, just going through straight and just pure 100% mastery of everything in the game, that's really cool. So I've always been more a fan of the 100% runs myself.
23:55 --> 24:09 And maybe it's for me because I'm a coder by day, right? And maybe for me, it's that like, oh, that's some bad code that somebody exploited, right? And I write bad code, so I'm like, go exploit my bad code.
24:09 --> 24:10 Let's go.
24:10 --> 24:11 That makes sense.
24:12 --> 24:43 So I mentioned earlier, being like a completionist, like Wolf is saying, and this is where I'm a hypocrite. And then I'll go into why I'm an asshole as well when I speed run a game that I don't have a long history with, like the Mega Man X Games or just the regular Mega Man games, I will absolutely abuse the hell out of the shortcuts and the glitches. And I was never really aware of speed running until I started the Retro therapy. So in the months leading up to.
24:43 --> 24:46 That, I had come across Cool Kid.
24:46 --> 25:12 I think it was doing glitched runs of Mega Man One. And I didn't know any of that existed. I didn't know there were glitches in games or exploits that you could do that had to be pixel perfect. And you got to get exactly here, and it depends on what screen or if you're using a CRT. Just all that stuff is like this whole new world, and I obsessed, and I'm not a talented gamer, but I do obsess. I obsess. Shut up.
25:12 --> 25:13 I obsess.
25:14 --> 25:15 Shut up.
25:15 --> 25:18 How many times have you beaten Silver Surfer during this episode?
25:18 --> 25:19 You are a talent by five.
25:20 --> 25:20 Stop.
25:21 --> 25:22 Whisperer. Jesus.
25:22 --> 25:24 God. Shut up.
25:24 --> 25:28 Okay, but no, here's what I'm saying. No, and I've always been this way. I don't think I have a talent.
25:28 --> 25:31 Except for the obsessing.
25:31 --> 25:34 Like, that's it. If you put the time in, you figure it out. Anybody can do it.
25:34 --> 25:43 I disagree. I have, like, five thumbs on every hand, and that's my problem.
25:43 --> 25:48 We'll put that on the shelf. Cinnastar, will you throw that onto the back shelf behind you?
25:48 --> 25:52 Citizen, the entire continent of Brazil disagree with you.
25:52 --> 25:52 Right?
25:54 --> 26:22 But no. So what I'm saying is in, like, the month or maybe the five or six weeks leading up to the debut of the premiere of the Retro Therapy, all I played was mega, man. Getting it down to 30 minutes. And then 25 minutes and trying to get it down to, like, between 20 and 22. Because the very first thing the retro therapy ever did there were two of us hosting at the time. In fact, the other host was the cousin I was talking to about the whole speed running thing. Anyways, our goal was to beat 64.
26:22 --> 26:25 Games in the first month.
26:25 --> 26:38 It was just the month of trying to beat 64 games. So my very first run at Meg Man, I'm just going through and nailing these glitches, and I think I'm doing great. He's just sitting there like, you're breaking the game.
26:38 --> 26:39 Stop it.
26:41 --> 27:01 So that was kind of my first obsession, and then eventually playing Battle Toads Blind a year and a half into streaming and then thinking, that is such a tough game, but these people can do these things, and there's these glitches, the Turbo Tunnel thing, and I don't know. Again, it's just I start to obsess, and I think, I bet I could.
27:01 --> 27:02 Do that because I want to be.
27:02 --> 27:13 Able to know that anybody really could, and that's where that comes from. Same thing with the Silver Surfer blind run to speed run. And for whatever reason, that process is insanely appealing to me.
27:13 --> 27:17 So, I don't know, total aside, I.
27:17 --> 27:22 Want to bring up that a handy capable Sean just, I think, beat Silver Surfer with his chin.
27:26 --> 27:28 Don't let throne, my friend.
27:28 --> 27:28 Yeah.
27:30 --> 27:40 So one thing I thought of while you were talking about this, like doing it over and over and over again and over and over, I want to bring up maybe the reason that I'm.
27:40 --> 27:43 Not a speedrunner is because I have.
27:43 --> 28:00 An experience that comes to mind and that is on the original Xbox. Not that not the re release on PC later, but psychonauts on the original Xbox. The meat circus is timing perfect. And I had it sure is.
28:01 --> 28:01 Always.
28:01 --> 28:35 I had to do it so many times. I had to do it so many times that I think I did throw my controller. Now I was going to wing it as hard as I could and at the end I kind of pulled back a little bit. But it's one of the two times in my life I've either wanted to or thrown a controller. But I think that maybe that's why I'm not ever going to be a speedrunner is because that game forced me to speed run that level through repetition. And I was like, fuck this, I'm out, I beat it and I'm done. Never again.
28:39 --> 29:00 I don't think I've ever obsessed about something that I've enjoyed so much to hate. And honestly, speed running is very similar to, like, drumming. It's muscle memory, repetition and blisters. But yeah, I get you. I've never been a rage quit type of guy, but I've definitely more so than any other thing.
29:00 --> 29:03 Rage quitted, speedruns. I'm with you on that one.
29:05 --> 29:18 So, okay, next round of questions that I have for you guys. If somebody were to say you have to do at least one game, speed running that you've never attempted to speed run before, what game would you choose and why? We're going to start off with werewolf on this one.
29:18 --> 29:21 Okay, I'm sorry, you're going to have to repeat the question.
29:23 --> 29:24 Okay.
29:25 --> 29:42 If somebody said you must, interesting answer. Run a game, right? That was the shortest possible answer. If somebody were to say you have to pick a game, it can be any game that you want, but it can't be one that you've ever attempted to speed run, what game would you choose and why?
29:43 --> 29:50 Oh, goodness. I don't know.
29:50 --> 29:51 Maybe.
29:55 --> 30:11 I don't want to get stuck playing Super Mario Three because I am not good enough at that to get through it quickly. Shoot. I guess perhaps Mega Man Four.
30:12 --> 30:15 That's a good one. I love that game so much.
30:18 --> 30:19 Sure.
30:25 --> 30:57 I like the Mega Man games, but I've attempted to speed run mildly. Mega Man X. Mega Man X two. Mega Man Three, just because that was the first one I was ever able to beat. Mega Man Two, I feel like, is a little too janky. Mega Man Four is that sweet spot where they introduced the mega bus like the Charge buster. So you've. Got some strong mechanics that this game is built on and then interesting level design. So I think that's why plus the music is all bangers, right?
30:57 --> 30:58 There you go.
30:59 --> 31:08 If you're going to keep listening to the same music over and over and over, it's got to be stuff you don't get sick of. And that's one of the strongest points for Mega Man four for me.
31:09 --> 31:10 Yeah.
31:10 --> 31:16 And to that point, 1942 would be the absolute worst to have to ever try to be.
31:21 --> 31:23 Awful. It is.
31:23 --> 31:29 It is the worst. Jake, how about you? What would be on your list of speedruns?
31:29 --> 31:34 Let's try next. You know, so I've maybe we can.
31:34 --> 32:31 Talk about this afterwards too. But there's a difference between wanting a speed running game and wanting to be in the leaderboard, I think, because I would actually love to try speed running Tetris. Maybe not maybe the game I want on the NES, but Tetris is a speed run. The 100 lines thing, it appeals me because I love that game and I'm pretty decent at it, but that leaderboard is so competitive and so insanely low. And there's different techniques for Tetris. It's not just playing with a controller. People, if you ever see people do speed runs of NES, Tetris now they have this underhand where they tap the bottom of the controller to trigger the DPAD for speed. It's insane to see. I don't want to do that. My hands hurt just watching people play that way. But for me personally, just to speed run something, I'd love to do 100 lines speedrun of Tetris just for fun, to see how fast I can do it. But I would not have any illusions of being on the leaderboard at all.
32:31 --> 32:39 Could we start our own if it doesn't exist category for speed running Tetris? We'll call it Bat?
32:39 --> 32:40 Build a tower.
32:40 --> 32:42 I think I could.
32:45 --> 33:47 Actually, you know what, it's funny you mentioned that. I'll put a link in Discord later, but there's this any developer and he has a niche I O account, and he's been creating some NES and Game Boy games. They actually ROMs actually work on Emulators or on original hardware or in Everdraps and whatnot. And he's got a game called From Below, and it's basically a Tetris clone where you're fighting on Kraken. It's a fantastic Tetris clone. And he's working on a Game Boy version that's coming out in a month or so. I can't wait to pick it up. From Below just got added to speedrun.com. The developer added it himself and there's a couple of runners there. And because it's a lot of skills crossover from NES, Tetris, there's a few runners are coming across, but they've already got the 100 line leaderboard down to like under four minutes. And it's still too fast for me. But it's neat that it's a new quote unquote game that somebody's made that's on speedrun.com. Then it's in the retro style. So I might try doing it there just to see my name on a leaderboard for a short while.
33:47 --> 33:53 Absolutely. Now, you brought up an interesting point. Does PressBy to cancel have a discord?
33:54 --> 33:55 Yes, it does.
33:55 --> 33:57 Why, yes, GP, we sure do.
33:57 --> 33:59 And where could a listener find it.
33:59 --> 34:03 If they wanted to join on Pressbeetocancel.com?
34:04 --> 34:05 Wait, we have a website now?
34:08 --> 34:18 We might. I even added the discord link because I got tired of saying what the bitly yellow URL was. So pressbeatocance.com it's right on the top left.
34:19 --> 35:16 To your point, though, Jake, I will say there is something about and this goes back to Wyman, asshole. But there is something about just wanting to see your name somewhere on the leaderboard. It's cool to set a goal and be like, I just want to be top 50 in this game. When I was attempting ninja guidance, I knew that there is no chance or Battletoad that I was ever going to break into the top five, let alone ten or whatever. And so I'd set a certain goal because just to kind of be in the conversation or to be able to hang with some of those people who can do this insane stuff. Yeah, I get that. Especially if it's a game that you love. To kind of be a part of the history of the game, in the way that the game is a part of your own history, I think is pretty special. That's the most profound shit I've said in years. Years. Sinister. How about you? If you had to speedrun a game, what would you choose and why?
35:16 --> 35:22 Yes. So I would want to do this game speed run in two different ways.
35:23 --> 35:28 And that is subnautica. Okay.
35:28 --> 35:35 So I would want to see how quickly I could get to the end. Right. Because you can shortcut a whole bunch.
35:35 --> 35:36 Of it as long as you know.
35:36 --> 35:48 Where to go and you know what tools to build and whatever. So that would be the first piece, because, A, once again, the soundtrack is amazing. It has an amazing soundtrack.
35:48 --> 35:51 B, it's a blast to play.
35:51 --> 36:06 It has one of the best stories. I enjoyed it enough that I went back and played it again. I very rarely do that. And then the other speedrun category that I would want to do and I think this would be a blast would.
36:06 --> 36:11 Be get to the point that I have the can't remember what the suit.
36:11 --> 36:12 Is called, but the one with the.
36:12 --> 36:15 Drill and the cron suit, but where.
36:15 --> 36:22 It has the drill and the grappling hook. And see how quickly I could speed run, killing every leviathan on that board.
36:23 --> 36:24 It would be great.
36:24 --> 36:26 That'd be cool.
36:27 --> 36:29 Yeah, I'd watch the hell out of that.
36:30 --> 36:30 Love that.
36:30 --> 36:30 Okay.
36:30 --> 36:40 And then I'd run into the situation where every third leviathan I fight, it would glitch me out of the world and I just fall permanently. Because that happens in that game.
36:40 --> 36:41 Yeah.
36:42 --> 36:54 That's the thing about speedrunner man. The golf comparison is becoming more and more like apropos. At any given time, you could just land out about yeah, exactly.
36:54 --> 36:55 Right.
36:56 --> 37:08 Here's what I'm going to do. If I ever start speed running again, I'm going to buy a bunch of, like, cheapo putters. That way, whenever I blow a speed run, I could just bust a putter over my bust a putter over my knee.
37:08 --> 37:08 Yeah.
37:09 --> 37:10 And then we can have putter counts.
37:10 --> 37:12 You could bow jackson, the bat.
37:15 --> 37:17 I should speed run tech mobile.
37:18 --> 37:19 No.
37:20 --> 37:24 And then, Jared, if you had to speedrun another game that you've never speed ran before, what would it be and why?
37:24 --> 37:27 I have two games that I'd like to speed run in two different categories.
37:27 --> 37:41 Okay, real quick. If you say Circus Charlie, I'm going to lose my shit. No, I did that as a blind run, and that was the game I was referencing at the top of the episode. I can finish in five minutes and still have three minutes to cuddle.
37:42 --> 37:56 That whole game is a speed run if played properly. I would pick if I were going to play a game that had nothing done to it, it was just a standardized game. I would follow on Wolf's suggestion of.
37:56 --> 37:58 Symphony of the Night, and I would.
37:58 --> 38:10 Try and speed run through the bosses to get to the end as quickly as possible on that one. Reverse castle, the whole nine yards. If I wanted a modded game to play, I really want to play Chrono.
38:10 --> 38:11 Trigger, jets of Time.
38:12 --> 38:42 That's what I really would love to start learning how to do and start to race. It is a Chrono Trigger randomizer banging tunes. It's fucking chrono trigger. You can't go wrong and it's randomized. It's cool as hell. So I've seen a few people speed room it, and I've always been very interested. But it's the one I've never picked up for any other reason. I've just I never have. So if I don't ever go back to World's Collide, which is the Final Fantasy six mod, I think jets of Time will be my next attempt at learning how to run something fast.
38:43 --> 38:44 Yeah.
38:44 --> 38:48 Let me speak on behalf of the world and say that. I hope you do. I hope you pick that up.
38:49 --> 38:52 That would be a blast to watch Speedrun Saturdays. I don't know.
38:53 --> 38:54 We'll figure something out.
38:54 --> 38:54 Great.
38:54 --> 39:08 And I can't say I've done world, collide. I'm familiar enough with it. I mean, you guys know how I feel about funnel fantasies. I've played the fuck out of free enterprise. Never like timed or speed ran or anything, but it's just such a fun concept and a good idea.
39:08 --> 39:21 I did that for a few charities that I was like, I think I can get this in 2 hours. So we tried to run it in 2 hours, and I think had I not been sidetracked by stretch goals and have a drinking I was doing, probably.
39:21 --> 39:23 Would have knocked it out, but we.
39:23 --> 39:24 Didn'T get to the end.
39:25 --> 39:32 Thus explains the cracking bottle. I understand you okay. For me, I've got two entries as well.
39:32 --> 39:35 One would be Punch Out, and there's.
39:35 --> 39:46 A couple of different ways I would love to do it, but that's one of those ones kind of like Silver Surfer or Battle Toads. Less with the Glitching but more with the precision. You've got to have that great sense of rhythm.
39:46 --> 39:47 You got to be able to figure.
39:47 --> 39:54 Out exactly everybody's tells and all that kind of stuff. And once you understand it, then, yeah, the floodgates are open.
39:54 --> 39:55 Go get it.
39:57 --> 39:59 Can I talk about that for just a second?
39:59 --> 40:00 Sure. Do it. Okay.
40:00 --> 40:19 So first off, that's actually what got me into the retro therapy. So I love that you brought up Punch Out, but my issue with speed running punch out would be Kos versus TKOs. And the randomness that is that game right there.
40:20 --> 40:21 Right?
40:22 --> 40:43 It's random until you see the numbers. Like, when you can see the matrix, you understand it. But I take you at your point. But there's people who speed run that where I don't think they're like R and Jesus. Come on. Maybe I'm wrong, but there's got to be nothing is truly random in those early games. Everything is based on some sort of number set. Go ahead, though. I didn't mean to interrupt.
40:43 --> 40:53 No, that was my point was TKO versus Ko, I mean, that would add significantly seconds on top, if not a minute on top.
40:53 --> 40:54 Right.
40:54 --> 40:55 Indifference.
40:57 --> 41:05 I love a game where you're just balls out, like trying to sprint to get to, but then you have to take like, a minute breather because there's a little training montage, and you can't.
41:05 --> 41:06 Just get about it.
41:07 --> 41:10 By the way, that's a banger of a track. Go ahead.
41:10 --> 41:15 Is there a lot of randomness to the difference between to getting a Ko?
41:16 --> 41:19 I don't know, but I feel like.
41:19 --> 41:26 There'S not, because if you're really kicking ass, I would think you're going to get the Ko most of the time as long as you're on. Right.
41:27 --> 41:28 Maybe. There is my mechanism.
41:28 --> 41:38 That my knowledge. I've watched a couple of people badge this game, and you have to TKO Nko certain all of them. You have to do it with everybody.
41:38 --> 41:42 So there everybody but King Hippo. Yeah.
41:42 --> 42:03 There are ways that you can actually it's not an RNG thing. There's actually something that you have to do, like, with a certain amount of time. I actually watched Frank do the Mike Tyson fight for, like I'm not kidding you just the fight by itself for, like, two weeks of trying to figure out how to do it, and he knocked it out, literally and metaphorically.
42:04 --> 42:30 There are ways to do it. That's that obsession. Because when you get it every time you PB, because you understand every time when you're learning it, everything will be a PB. So that's that you talk about that dopamine hit. You're always seeing the gains. You're always seeing the progress, and then by the time you get to where you're p being once in a great while, you're hooked, you're in. You can't really step away.
42:33 --> 42:34 Peanut butter.
42:34 --> 42:37 Personal best. Just going to bring that up.
42:37 --> 42:38 Wow.
42:38 --> 42:38 Sorry.
42:39 --> 42:46 The parlance got away from me. The other one, because I said not press B.
42:46 --> 42:47 It's not press B.
42:47 --> 42:51 It's that press B. Peanut butter to cancel.
42:51 --> 42:53 Personal yeah, personal best to cancel.
42:55 --> 42:56 Okay.
42:56 --> 43:02 So I said Mega Man was kind of my first I always want to say the word, but I always say four way. It's not four way.
43:02 --> 43:06 It wasn't my first four way. Foray foray.
43:06 --> 43:07 We back on Meat Circus.
43:07 --> 43:09 Fourier for.
43:11 --> 43:12 A hound. The Foyer ghost.
43:12 --> 43:41 Yes, it was my first foyer, but no, 2001, my freshman year of college, metroid Bryme comes out, and that original disc, the original release, you can sequence break, so I guess I was familiar with sequence break as far as that goes. That had been my first Metroid game. So it would be fun to go back and learn how to speed run the original version of Metroid Prime because we did pretty good at some of that. Or even just Super Metroid because I still suck at that game, and I would love how to be good at that game.
43:41 --> 43:47 That would be great. Those are kind of my super Metroid.
43:47 --> 43:56 Is great incentivizes you, even if you don't know what speed running is, as a kid, playing Super Metroid, you were rewarded if you beat the game in a certain time.
43:56 --> 43:56 Right.
43:56 --> 44:03 If you got under 3 hours, you got the swimsuit samus. So it kind of instills in you, the idea of speed running at a young age.
44:04 --> 44:08 You want to beat this game faster, right? Got to go fast.
44:09 --> 45:16 Well, the fact that, like he said, every time you get a personal best or you PB on anything that you're running on, you want to do it again. And I can attest to that 100% because it'd be like, you'd start out and you'd get I'm like, two and a half hours to finish Mega Man X. Okay? That is my baseline. That's how bad I am at this. This is my baseline. So okay, I got it done to 2 hours. Holy shit. I shaved off 30 minutes because I'm getting better at it. I ended that attempt at running that game. I ended at an hour and nine minutes, and I was so goddamn excited about it that I didn't want to go anymore. I didn't think I could get any deeper than that. And there was some pretty insane time jumps from what I was learning how to do. And that was literally just memorizing the stuff I needed to memorize and landing that stupid because I was doing 100% run through. So we were getting the hayukan, the whole nine. We got it all. And I had to get that. The Arm cannon is the hardest one to get the first time, every single time, because you have to land on a pixel perfect edge to jump up, crush it with your helmet, and then go get it in the fire level stage.
45:16 --> 45:18 And if I didn't get that on.
45:18 --> 45:19 The first try to reset because I.
45:19 --> 45:20 Was like, that's not it.
45:20 --> 45:34 So if I landed it once, then we'd fly. And I would keep on rolling until I could get everything else. And I think I did it. Yeah, I did it in an hour and nine minutes, and I was fucking pumped. And I'm sure anybody who speedruns Mega Man X at any level was like.
45:36 --> 45:38 Good job, buddy. Good job.
45:38 --> 45:43 And I'm freaking out. I was so excited, I went, you know what? I'm taking my speedrunner hat off.
45:43 --> 45:56 Nobody's going to slow clap that because we've all been there. Anybody who's been through that. One thing I do enjoy about the community is it is competitive. But for the most part, people are friendly about it and they want to encourage other people.
45:56 --> 45:59 Because when you master something or when.
45:59 --> 46:02 You get really good at it and you're at the top of your game or you're at the top of the.
46:02 --> 46:03 List.
46:05 --> 46:30 Chart how many times have we said, man, I wish I could go back and have some sort of forgive me head trauma and blind run Final Fantasy Four? If you could rehab the first play experience, So by the time you're at the top of that level and you've mastered everything, you watch these people learn how to speed run because that wasn't that long ago you were doing that. You remember those dopamine hits and you want that for those people.
46:30 --> 46:44 Right now, you touched on the community's, supportive and helpful and stuff like that. But I do need to bring up there is a little bit of a darker side. There is a level of gatekeeping that happens in the rankings.
46:44 --> 46:44 Okay.
46:44 --> 46:57 Specifically, there is a level of gatekeeping where if you haven't done it exactly the way that they do I mean, I get setting rules, but a lot of it feels very gatekeepy. So that they're gatekeepy.
46:57 --> 46:58 That's a word.
47:01 --> 47:03 It locks out a lot of players.
47:03 --> 47:03 Right.
47:03 --> 47:10 And so this is where I think it would be cool to have. Okay, so hardware only speed run.
47:10 --> 47:11 Cool. Great.
47:11 --> 47:18 You have a category, but then like emulator speedrun as long as you can some way validate that you haven't modded.
47:18 --> 47:19 Right.
47:19 --> 47:24 I mean, it would be really cool to have that level taken out so that there's less gatekeeping.
47:24 --> 47:26 Right? Sure.
47:26 --> 47:29 I think that's why I'm more of.
47:29 --> 47:31 The mod running thing.
47:31 --> 48:03 Because if I go and do jets of time or I do world to light or free enterprise, it's modded. It's emulated and it's modded. You can't play it any other way. There's no other way to play this game. No one's going to gatekeep on any of like the modded type games that you could speedrun to do that kind of thing. Which is why I think I lean towards a lot of that and The Legend of Zelda randomizers and things like that because no one's going to say nothing about it. You cheated because you went on a sequence.
48:03 --> 48:05 No, I didn't. It's randomized.
48:05 --> 48:37 I don't know where the fuck is going to be. I'm going to go wherever I think I need to go. I think that helps with the and it's more of a race against somebody else because a lot of those games you are pitted against one person or another to do it. It's not like I'm entering this time because I did it. No, they're like, okay, we're scheduling a race between two people to run this thing. It's like when Jake and I did the smite thing a couple of weekends ago. We're petted against two people playing these games and racing it, but no one's going to gatekeep because I played Sonic when I was young and I played it on an emulator and I got the Emerald to win the game, but no one's going to say, no, fuck.
48:37 --> 48:38 You can't do that.
48:38 --> 48:48 So I don't know, if you're not playing something standardized to me, then no one can be an asshole to but I mean, they can anybody can be a battle about anything. I'm not saying that it's perfect, but.
48:49 --> 48:49 I think it's safe.
48:49 --> 49:10 Yeah, there is a fine line between asshole them and I guess non. Whenever I was doing speedruns I was always doing it on cartridge and people would ask, and I would always say 100% OG parts and Cart. I never meant for that to be a gatekeeping thing because I never tried to dissuade other people. Like, oh, it doesn't count if you're emulating.
49:10 --> 49:12 Fuck. No, but I mean, like I said.
49:12 --> 49:17 There'S kind of that line you got to toe because it can very easily be misconstrued as.
49:20 --> 49:22 I understand the concern.
49:22 --> 49:30 That if it's emulated there's the possibility that a it's not a timely accurate emulator or it's been modded or something.
49:30 --> 49:30 Right.
49:30 --> 49:39 And so sure, have a hardware category. Right. But then have the categories that are outside the hardware specific. Right?
49:39 --> 49:40 Sure.
49:42 --> 49:48 That's really pushing out a whole generation of gamers that may be interested in speed running because guess what?
49:48 --> 49:54 There's no new hardware. Sorry, for me it's the input. Right?
49:54 --> 50:39 The original hardware fine. I've witnessed our have an emulated category, have an original hardware category because my thing and I had this with Double Dragon as well is some people are die hard. You must use a controller. You must use original hardware controller and it has to be the pad. You can't use anything else. I have carbal tunnel, my hands are fucked up. Sorry, YouTube. I play on arcade sticks, hitboxes button boxes. Some people think that's cheating. There's some people who like to play with keyboard right. I know there has been a thing of Bell toads board. Some people had a discussion about, well, are you allowed to use a keyboard to play beltodes? Does that give you an advantage? I think it was JC made a post discussing it. And there's pros and cons of keyboard versus original controller. But for me.
50:41 --> 50:44 I can see the argument of N key. Right. N key rollover.
50:44 --> 50:45 Right. I can see that argument.
50:45 --> 51:34 Right. And that's why I like the arcade sticks. Because arcade sticks are a button box, the hit box. It's got something called an SOCD cleaner in it which prevents doing the left and right at the same time. For example, it's built in to not allow that. But also, a lot of emulators also have options to disable the same input. So it's a way to prevent that. But yeah, my thing is it's just a hand pain. And if I can't use a hitbox, if I'm forced to use a controller, I can't even touch the hobby. I can't even go near it because my hands hurt too much. I wish some leaderboards it's not speed running community as a whole, but there's certain communities around a certain game that get really cranky when you mention something outside of a pad. Right. That's why I love the meme categories. Like NES advantage percent in some games. That's hilarious. That controller sucks.
51:36 --> 51:36 Out thing.
51:36 --> 51:37 Great.
51:37 --> 51:39 I would do the punch out thing with the Power Glove.
51:39 --> 51:40 Yeah.
51:42 --> 51:43 Absolutely.
51:43 --> 51:44 PG percent.
51:46 --> 51:48 Rad Racer power Glove percent.
51:48 --> 51:57 Gppgs. Gppg percent. Power Gloves. Yeah. Those are palindromes, right?
51:57 --> 51:58 Yes.
51:59 --> 52:01 Like crown royal and royal.
52:01 --> 52:03 Was it RC Cola?
52:03 --> 52:05 Royal Crown and crown. Anyway, no one cares.
52:06 --> 52:07 Yeah, sure.
52:07 --> 52:11 Absolutely. Sponsored by RC Cola, said nobody this year.
52:12 --> 52:14 I'll take that over Dr. Pepper.
52:16 --> 52:16 Wow.
52:16 --> 52:17 God, man.
52:18 --> 52:20 RC Cola. I don't know.
52:20 --> 52:23 Go ahead and keep sponsor, bud.
52:23 --> 52:26 Are we good? And keep soda pop, guys, come on.
52:26 --> 52:26 What do you got?
52:26 --> 52:27 Werewolf. What do you got?
52:28 --> 52:28 Werewolf.
52:28 --> 52:42 You guys got me curious as to whether Punch Out has a Power Glove percent. It does not. But it has. Blindfolded, how do you play this game? Blindfolded, how do you play this game in 18 minutes?
52:42 --> 52:45 Blindfolded once you know the rhythm, that.
52:45 --> 53:01 Is an entire thing. Like, everybody thought that Mike Tyson was like this random number generator. No, they figured out their sequences and they figured out auditory tones to pick up those sequences.
53:01 --> 53:03 Right. Wow. What's?
53:03 --> 53:08 The same thing with the Mexican. Speedrunner did turbo tunnels. Blindfolded, didn't he?
53:08 --> 53:08 Yeah.
53:08 --> 53:10 It's all about the time memorization.
53:11 --> 53:18 I don't know who did it, but I heard about somebody who played, like, Symphony of the Night blindfolded with a DDR pad with their feet.
53:21 --> 53:23 The one that I want GP You've got to make this happen.
53:24 --> 53:27 Flinger winger. Blindfolded. Let's go.
53:27 --> 53:32 No, I wouldn't even do that anymore with my eyeballs open.
53:32 --> 53:32 Right.
53:34 --> 53:36 I'll do it with the Advantage, though.
53:36 --> 53:52 I don't know her name, but there is a streamer that she beat Molina from Eldon Ring with a dance pad on one computer and beat Molina on Eldon Ring on another computer with a freaking guitar hero guitar at the same time.
53:52 --> 53:53 Okay.
53:54 --> 54:13 The origins of dancing to when a fight goes back to I think it was 1885, hill Valley, clinton Eastwood, Marty McFly moonwalked against Mad Dog Cannon. And that's a great fucking scene.
54:13 --> 54:16 Anyway, I was back to the future.
54:17 --> 54:18 Okay.
54:18 --> 54:20 Anyway hey, I didn't point at my background tonight.
54:21 --> 54:24 No, you said some stuff back there.
54:25 --> 54:29 We talked about my hazvana. The episode is not that bad.
54:29 --> 54:33 Werewolf. Oh, no.
54:35 --> 54:36 That was weird.
54:38 --> 54:38 Okay.
54:39 --> 55:06 I shouldn't tell you this story because I've never told this story to another living person or dead person. I don't know why I threw in living. I'm not trying to keep life status, but this is true. This is the very last time I played Battle Toads as a speedrun. I had gotten I think I had peaked officially at ranked 20th or 21st.
55:08 --> 55:09 I thought you made 18.
55:10 --> 55:23 Okay, so then upper I peaked in high school. Nice. I had one night, it was 03:00 A.m., and I was playing out of my Mind.
55:23 --> 55:24 Good.
55:24 --> 55:33 And I had a run that was fast enough that it would have gotten me to like twelve or 13, like low teens or whatever.
55:33 --> 55:33 Right.
55:33 --> 55:37 Close to ten. And I never submitted it because.
55:39 --> 55:39 A.
55:39 --> 55:42 Friend of mine had passed away. His name was James.
55:42 --> 55:42 Right.
55:42 --> 55:59 I didn't mean to laugh at that. Sorry. But I was not sleeping. I was still very and a lot of people from the retrotherapy knew him, and he was a good friend of mine from my childhood. Anyway, I was not sleeping. I was not in a good way. And I was really just practicing speedruns.
55:59 --> 56:03 And I recorded it, but the whole.
56:03 --> 56:54 Time I'm sobbing and just really going through it, and it was heartbreaking shit. And I could not bring myself to submit that. And you can't go back and take out the audio because that's a disqualifier. So I kind of quit playing Battle Toads after that because I'm like, what was the end of that? I think it was the very first ever episode of The Twilight Zone. There's a nuclear war. The guy Burgess Meredith says, glasses break. He was in a library. What was the other story that it reminded me of? From Brooklyn 99, when Captain Holt is showing Jake I don't know if you guys are familiar, he's like, me and my husband, Kevin Costner, are taking hula hoop classes. He's like, oh, my God, why are you telling me this? And he leans and he said, Because nobody will ever believe you. He deleted the pictures.
56:54 --> 56:56 It was that it was this great.
56:56 --> 57:06 Moment, but only because but I couldn't submit it. And I never did, and I never will. And it's been deleted since. But that's why we don't see any more battle toads for me.
57:07 --> 57:11 That's a fair reason for me.
57:11 --> 57:27 But it was really funny. Like, if you knew James, it was kind of one of those things where sword of God, he was just sitting right next to me like, you're going to do great, but you can never tell anybody because you're a piece of shit. And wow, that's the joke. Now everybody in the world knows that story end.
57:27 --> 57:28 Zimbabwe.
57:30 --> 57:33 Hopefully Brazil, the whole country.
57:35 --> 57:40 Speaking of Brazil, we shat on Jake earlier, but he's still 11th.
57:40 --> 57:44 It's fine, really. How many? Like 15.
57:45 --> 57:46 1516.
57:47 --> 57:50 1St is half your time smaller than I thought.
57:50 --> 57:54 Brazil is 15 people.
57:55 --> 58:25 The guy who started that leaderboard, Virtual Bacon, I think his name was, he doesn't stream anymore, but he used to. And he used to speed run while he was on exercise bike. It was a way he could exercise and take his mind of exercising. That's why he started speed running and he started the Double Dragon message system, speedrun. And I watched him and I'm like, oh, I can do it better. That's the asshole part of me speaking. I submitted and I beat his time. And then Brazil said, Fuck you. We don't need a speed bike. We just do it all in ten minutes.
58:25 --> 58:38 For the listeners. Just so you know, all week when we're talking, we use Marco Polo all week when we're talking, literally every other Marco Polo from Jake is, I can do it better in response to whatever you say.
58:38 --> 58:38 Yeah.
58:38 --> 58:42 And the ones where he's not saying that are these games are trash.
58:42 --> 58:45 Except for certain hate good games.
58:45 --> 58:51 I don't understand. He'll send videos and be like, the Wheel of Pain is getting bigger, guys. Check this thing out.
58:55 --> 59:00 To be fair, half of our videos from the rest of us are asking Jake if they have something in Canada.
59:01 --> 59:09 The Wheel of Pain is motivation, you assholes. This is to get you to play your sisophyan games. I'm helping you beat your sisophyan games with the Wheel of Pain.
59:09 --> 59:13 My game is so bad, I would rather play something on the Wheel of Pain for 2 hours than God.
59:13 --> 59:15 I'm adding Golem myself to that.
59:15 --> 59:19 Any amount. I'll play Golem right fucking now. You buy it for me, I'll play it for you.
59:19 --> 59:19 Done and done.
59:20 --> 59:24 There's your sisophian. I'll take his bowl cut all the way to Sauron's Tower.
59:24 --> 59:34 That's what I was going to say. That's like saying you have to get Golem's bowl cut if you don't beat your game. That's not really motivation. Wait, how does that edging your bets on entertainment?
59:34 --> 59:39 How does I'll take that fruit salad bowl and those clippers all the way to Mount Doom?
59:42 --> 59:48 How does that apply to me? How would I put on I'd have to buy a wig of Gollums.
59:48 --> 59:49 That'd be great.
59:49 --> 59:54 You'd look like fucking like Nick Sorensen from bench warmers.
59:55 --> 01:00:00 What's the one stooge that has the Larry Chevy.
01:00:01 --> 01:00:02 That's what I was.
01:00:02 --> 01:00:14 Going to say they're packaged as the same thing, but yes. All right, fellas, we're at an hour. I think this is probably a good place to transition to our top 100 games before we do.
01:00:14 --> 01:00:14 Yes.
01:00:14 --> 01:00:17 Does anybody have any final thoughts on speed running and why it's awesome?
01:00:18 --> 01:00:20 I think speed running is great.
01:00:23 --> 01:00:25 Wow. He said it so fast.
01:00:26 --> 01:00:32 I think it adds a whole nother level to games that could easily just be one and done.
01:00:34 --> 01:00:42 Classic speedrun if you have an interest. But I also think that there's a value in playing the game through that you want a speedrun.
01:00:43 --> 01:00:44 Yeah.
01:00:44 --> 01:00:53 And to kind of bring that back to the points at the top of the episode yeah. Don't take it out of the box and blind run it and try to speed run it. Enjoy the fuck out of that game first.
01:00:53 --> 01:00:55 And then speedrun it. Yeah.
01:00:55 --> 01:00:56 And then find a way.
01:00:56 --> 01:00:58 There's nothing else left to do. Then do it quickly.
01:01:01 --> 01:01:09 The only thing I'll add to it is the speedrun community. There's a lot of fantastic groups. Most of the speedrun community is fantastic.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:12 But it's very niche in games.
01:01:12 --> 01:01:42 Games are very like money run six silos. Don't let one leaderboards community push you away from the hobby. There are so many great games and communities like the Mega Man seems pretty solid. I know. Balto's community is pretty great to see. I love watching JC and TMR go at it when they touch it. Ninja Guidance with Arcus is just one of the coolest guys on Twitch. Watching him speed run is great. There's a lot of great speedrun communities centered around certain games. Don't let one bad game in communities push you away. This is one of the most great hobby.
01:01:42 --> 01:01:46 Archus is one of the most chill dudes I have ever watched, ever.
01:01:46 --> 01:01:47 Yeah.
01:01:48 --> 01:01:56 I'm glad he got brought up because that was one of my final points, is to say a couple of important names for anybody who's not familiar with speed running.
01:01:56 --> 01:01:57 Check out Arcus.
01:01:57 --> 01:02:08 He's, I think, probably the best one to watch. He's incredible at everything he does, and his temperament is just exactly what I wish I could be.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:11 He'll hum the song from the game that he's playing.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:13 While he's playing it. He's a charmer.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:42 JC, I mean, what can you say about JC that JC hasn't already said about JC? And then yeah, TMR absolutely. The Mexican runner. You can't really talk about speed running without mentioning, well, those three and GP. So with that said, everybody, thank you. Let's get into our submissions for top 100 games of all time. Jake, you said because I was gone for the past seven weeks, I could list eight games. Is that right?
01:02:42 --> 01:02:44 No, we're only going to give you two.
01:02:44 --> 01:02:45 Because I'm a prick, apparently.
01:02:45 --> 01:02:46 Two?
01:02:46 --> 01:02:51 Or do you guys on Poll every week? So you get two this? No, you got to catch up a bit with some picks.
01:02:51 --> 01:02:53 Do they have pricks in Canada.
01:02:53 --> 01:02:55 They do. Just one?
01:02:57 --> 01:03:04 Yes. And they're smaller because it's cold up there. I'm going to do an entire episode.
01:03:04 --> 01:03:07 Not gone for a month, and he's just coming in hot.
01:03:08 --> 01:03:20 Nice. Actually, it was a month and a half, but I speed ran it. I'll mention my first of the two, and then everybody will mention theirs. And then I'll mention my second one, if that's okay.
01:03:20 --> 01:03:22 Yeah, I think that's fair.
01:03:22 --> 01:03:28 Okay, first one, we're going to go with Mario 64.
01:03:28 --> 01:03:29 I know a lot of people are.
01:03:29 --> 01:03:36 Going to be like, yes, that's great. Probably an equal number are going to be like, well, shouldn't this game or this game be on there? But no Mario 64.
01:03:37 --> 01:03:38 And that's that.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:46 I think we all know why from when we did the brackets, why I'm choosing this one. And if you don't know or haven't heard the brackets, go back and listen to the brackets.
01:03:47 --> 01:03:48 Well, I'm going to go next because.
01:03:48 --> 01:04:08 I'm going to tie in. I'm going to tie in. I knew that that was the one that you were going to guarantee pick, basically. And so we're going to actually have two Mario games this week. Super Mario world on the Super Nintendo. A better super Mario three, in my opinion.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:10 Say it's the lesser super Mario three.
01:04:11 --> 01:04:23 There's debate on which is better, but I think both belong in the list. And that'll be a fun argument when we actually finalize the order because there's no way Mario world is better than three. But Mario world is a fantastic game.
01:04:23 --> 01:04:29 But neither are as good as 64. I think we can all agree on that. So let's move on.
01:04:29 --> 01:04:31 This might be the only thing that.
01:04:31 --> 01:04:38 Jake and I agree on about Mario three and Mario. This might be our sole bonding moment is that we both like elvin ring.
01:04:38 --> 01:04:39 You know what?
01:04:39 --> 01:04:40 Better not make it on the list.
01:04:41 --> 01:04:42 Do you like elder ring?
01:04:42 --> 01:04:44 You know what? I do know what better not in.
01:04:44 --> 01:04:46 That fucking game, chard.
01:04:46 --> 01:04:52 You know what better not make it on the list is super Mario world two yoshi island. If that makes it on the list, there's going to be a fight.
01:04:52 --> 01:04:53 You know what?
01:04:53 --> 01:04:57 I'm going to tie in with the other three that you have here. We're going to have a third Mario game.
01:04:57 --> 01:04:57 No, we're not.
01:04:57 --> 01:05:02 Oh, shit. Okay, chardmuck, what's your game for the week?
01:05:02 --> 01:05:03 You were going to say something.
01:05:03 --> 01:05:05 What were you going to say? Oh, sorry.
01:05:05 --> 01:05:16 Oh, what was the game you mentioned? Mario world two yoshi's island. That game. I loved it when it came out. I 100 percented it, and it is not aged well for me. I can't stand it anymore.
01:05:17 --> 01:05:23 That is a game. Whenever I think of it, I hear a noise in my head.
01:05:23 --> 01:05:24 I have to mute the game when I play.
01:05:24 --> 01:05:26 I have to play a game maker.
01:05:27 --> 01:05:32 I have to mute my brain when I think of that game. Moving on.
01:05:34 --> 01:05:35 I meant to mute that. I'm sorry.
01:05:38 --> 01:06:07 It sounds like I'm playing Mario too, but I'm just making coffee. So I am not going to tie in with any Mario games this time around. But I am going to drop a hidden gem that many of you may not have heard about before called Final Fantasy Six. We're going to drop that one right in there because what needs to be said about Final Fantasy Six? It's the greatest Final fantasy in the system. I don't think we need to go into that one in any great detail.
01:06:07 --> 01:06:09 That bracket also that's all right.
01:06:09 --> 01:06:17 Yeah, we did. And six one. So Six is going to be dropped in. I've been kind of sitting on that one for a couple of weeks, and I think today is the day we're going to release it into the wild.
01:06:17 --> 01:06:18 Should have fucking said six.
01:06:18 --> 01:06:20 I knew you were going with I.
01:06:20 --> 01:06:21 Knew you were going to try and hit that one.
01:06:22 --> 01:06:25 I've mentioned has been a sports game because nobody else will do that except.
01:06:25 --> 01:06:29 For maybe Charge Mario 64. Famous sports game.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:31 Yeah, right.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:31 Okay.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:42 No, that's a great one. Should I ask what version do you feel is best? A lot of people are going to say GBA for the list. I think we have to stick with the original Super Nintendo version.
01:06:42 --> 01:07:15 No, I want to go Super Nintendo version just because of its because of its roots from where it's GB. It does have some good stuff into it. I feel like a lot of the GBA stuff might be kind of fluff because the story within itself is pretty self contained. And then they added, like, the extra dungeons and some of the extra calls and whatever. But I don't know. I like the new the Pixel Remaster is really good too. I really dig it. But I think it's mostly because of the music being completely orchestrated and making one of my favorite soundtracks, if not my favorite soundtrack. Fucking epic to, like, all kinds of bounce. But we're going to go with the Super Nintendo version.
01:07:15 --> 01:07:26 I'll send you a link. Okay. And probably nobody has, but I just played through the Pixel remaster of Funnel Fantasy Two, and the redone music into is breathtaking.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:26 It's great.
01:07:26 --> 01:07:42 Pandemonium as a track is they put choral voices with it. It's fucking disgusting. I love it. To that point, the GBA, the worst thing about that was the soundtrack. But I think that has the best translation. We could do a whole episode over this week.
01:07:42 --> 01:07:44 I can agree to that. I can 100% agree to that.
01:07:44 --> 01:07:47 Wolf, how about you? What's your entry for the week?
01:07:47 --> 01:07:52 Metal Gear. Metal Gear Solid, specifically.
01:07:52 --> 01:07:53 Okay, great.
01:07:53 --> 01:07:55 Twin Snakes or PS One?
01:07:58 --> 01:08:19 Without PS one, there wouldn't be twin snakes. So I've played through most of the PS One game. I've played all the way through Twin Snakes. But it had been so long since the first came out, that when I finally went to go play through it. I felt like Twin Snakes was better aged, but Metal Gear Solid was an absolutely solid game.
01:08:20 --> 01:08:22 It was brilliant.
01:08:23 --> 01:08:35 This is another game that is almost single handedly responsible for the popularity of the genre. Right. Stealth games really took off because of Metal Gear Solid.
01:08:36 --> 01:08:39 Especially Hiding in Boxes games.
01:08:39 --> 01:08:42 I ironically found out we have Gold Metal Gear Solid.
01:08:42 --> 01:08:43 Thank you.
01:08:43 --> 01:08:44 Metal Gear terrible.
01:08:45 --> 01:08:49 I found out through Metal Gear games that I'm terrible at sneaking at sneaking around games.
01:08:49 --> 01:08:52 So fantastic.
01:08:52 --> 01:08:54 Thanks to Heavy Breathing, this is why.
01:08:54 --> 01:08:57 I can never be fellow tech in the box.
01:08:58 --> 01:09:02 Like, I just fucking ate one of your treasure box troves or whatever.
01:09:04 --> 01:09:07 The box is infallible. We know this.
01:09:07 --> 01:09:08 Yeah, legit.
01:09:08 --> 01:09:10 I was playing my fat ass underneath it.
01:09:10 --> 01:09:23 I was playing hide and seek in the house today with my kid, and he walks by. I'm hiding in his room. He had counted in the living room. And he just walks by. He's like, dad, I can hear you, man. I don't know where you are, but I know you're in my room.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:26 Shut up. Daddy's been working.
01:09:30 --> 01:09:51 I ran here. The PS One version absolutely has to be the one that's on there. I think twin snakes has aged better. The, you know, graphically playability, it's so smooth. But, yeah, first, playing Metal Gear Solid on the PlayStation One was not, like transcendental, but it was a completely new experience.
01:09:51 --> 01:10:05 Pretty mind blowing, right? The meta of playing through the game like you're going through you hit that point with Psychomantis where he's like, reading off your memory card. I see you like this game. And this game fucking creep.
01:10:05 --> 01:10:06 That's awesome.
01:10:11 --> 01:10:39 Beating him, right? It's so cool the way they did that. And I know other Metal Gear games have sort of followed suit with these unusual boss mechanics and aspects of gameplay. And I love that. It's the reason I want to play through the entire franchise, because I've not I've only played through one, and Twin Snakes and then some of three. And I want to go to sleep. I want to play through all of them, all the way. So I have the collection.
01:10:39 --> 01:10:43 Snake Eater just got announced for its remastered release here on PS Three.
01:10:43 --> 01:10:44 I'm not buying it. Again.
01:10:49 --> 01:11:03 They rereleased two as substance and three as subsistence. And those are, in my opinion, the preferred method of playing. Those are the better versions. But, yeah, you're right. And like, getting Meryl's codec number off the back of the box, the back.
01:11:03 --> 01:11:14 Of the case, honestly, really so cool. The first time I played this was just like this is wild. The presentation, how cinematic it was for a PS One game.
01:11:15 --> 01:11:18 I was going to say I dump on the PS One a lot.
01:11:18 --> 01:11:20 I got the codex right here.
01:11:22 --> 01:11:35 PlayStation, the graphics are so solid. And you're right. The opening scene with that, the music when you're coming out of the water. It is so cinematic and it rivals some movies at the time. Like, Kojima was so on point with the influences.
01:11:36 --> 01:11:36 It's good.
01:11:36 --> 01:12:12 It up the cinematic level of video games to an obscene degree from what came out previously. You know what I mean? It was presented very cinematically. But it was not a movie video game. Like, it wasn't clips from a movie. It wasn't a visual novel style game or something that just unfolded. When you make decisions, you're playing it right. It unfolded like a movie, though. It was really cool. So that's why that one's on my list are fantastic.
01:12:12 --> 01:12:13 Okay, leave that one.
01:12:13 --> 01:12:18 Getting the invisibility, getting the tuxedo or the infinite ammo bandana. I don't know.
01:12:18 --> 01:12:19 Oh, it's awesome.
01:12:19 --> 01:12:20 Yeah.
01:12:20 --> 01:12:33 Infinitely replayable. And I think that's brilliant. I think Chard's suggestion or entry this week was spot on and obvious. It should be there. Yours, my friends, was brilliant and sinister. Added one too.
01:12:33 --> 01:12:34 So, Jake, how about yours?
01:12:36 --> 01:13:08 Well, I'm going to bring it back to Mario. And I'm also going to talk about a sports game. We'll do a two for one and it's Punch Out for the NES where Mario is the referee. And punch out, I think. Doesn't need discussion like Metal Gear. Like punch out is punch out? It's one of the best games on the NES. The tight controls, just the cast of characters. The music is just in your brain, iconic. Everything about that game is fantastic. And I know it's had sequels over the years, but I think the original on the NES wasn't the original, but the NES version is so good.
01:13:08 --> 01:13:09 I agree.
01:13:11 --> 01:14:04 I don't know if you guys are familiar with the Internet show Hot Ones, where they interview celebrities while eating hot wings. Kieran Culkin was on like a month ago and he was talking about his love for Punch Out and how he was at a bar and it was if you could beat Mike Tyson, you could get a free pitcher of beer. And so he's like, yeah, I'm going to do that. So he picks up the controllers and the guy's like, oh, here, let me give you the code to get to Mike Tyson. And he's like, no, I know it. And the guy's like, really? And he realizes he's like, and if you haven't watched, go back and watch the review. But just scrub forward to when he does this. He realizes he doesn't actually know the combination or the code. He just knows it by sound. And he goes through while he's doing the interview. And he's like, Motherfucker, that's exactly right. Like the rhythm, the cadence. He nailed it. I'm like, okay, respect.
01:14:04 --> 01:14:13 Because that's how many times he fucking went down to Tyson. Because you absolutely yeah, I'm sure I memorized it after watching Frank fucking lose for two weeks.
01:14:14 --> 01:14:19 And that's the thing. I couldn't replicate what the code is with vocally, but hearing him. I could recognize that.
01:14:19 --> 01:14:23 Is that's accurate? Well done.
01:14:23 --> 01:14:31 So no. Yeah, you're right. Punch house. Fantastic. It's an iconic game from an iconic system, and it, I think, set the.
01:14:31 --> 01:14:33 Pace for what a lot of boxing.
01:14:33 --> 01:14:37 Games could be and notoriously, set the pace for Mario's voice.
01:14:42 --> 01:14:43 Yeah.
01:14:43 --> 01:14:45 It's stuck through the entire franchise.
01:14:46 --> 01:14:46 Yeah.
01:14:47 --> 01:14:59 Okay. So then my second entry for my first Mario 64, I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with Contra for the NES.
01:14:59 --> 01:15:01 And here's why.
01:15:01 --> 01:15:11 I understand Contra first was out on the arcade, but the reason this was important that it's the NES version is because it is, in my estimation, one of the first times an NES game.
01:15:12 --> 01:15:14 Was superior to the arcade version.
01:15:15 --> 01:15:27 And, I mean, that explanation notwithstanding, the game deserves to be on there. It's one of the all time greats, not just for the system, but for any run and gun side scrolling type.
01:15:27 --> 01:15:27 Game.
01:15:30 --> 01:15:32 With some first person aspects that.
01:15:32 --> 01:15:35 Were kind of refreshing at the time.
01:15:35 --> 01:15:39 Yeah, I don't even like running gun.
01:15:39 --> 01:15:48 Games, but I love Contra. It plays so well. Even if you're not fan of the genre, it's still such a fantastic game and also a killer soundtrack, for sure.
01:15:50 --> 01:15:57 But I respect the hell out of it. Like, the music is great, the animation is great. The mechanics I recognize are strong. It's just not my style of game.
01:15:57 --> 01:15:58 Sure.
01:15:58 --> 01:16:00 It needed Segorni Weaver at the end.
01:16:03 --> 01:16:03 Alien.
01:16:03 --> 01:16:05 Okay. Yeah, I got you.
01:16:05 --> 01:16:12 I was thinking about the face at the end of Super Contra or Super C, which I was maintained looks like ScarJo.
01:16:12 --> 01:16:13 Yeah.
01:16:13 --> 01:16:15 No, which ScarJo?
01:16:15 --> 01:16:18 If you're listening hey, good to see you.
01:16:18 --> 01:16:20 Get away from her, you bitch.
01:16:20 --> 01:16:21 Contra.
01:16:21 --> 01:16:30 No, at the end, you've got the little face huggers running past you, and you've got the Alien. I mean, it needed Segordi in her.
01:16:30 --> 01:16:32 In her fucking lifter suit.
01:16:32 --> 01:16:33 She the power loader.
01:16:33 --> 01:16:34 Power loader.
01:16:35 --> 01:16:40 She should have shown up at the end. After you've beaten it, she'd be like, oh, I guess you've got this, then.
01:16:40 --> 01:16:41 Yeah.
01:16:45 --> 01:17:03 All right, fellas, I'm going to theme. Yeah. I got to tell you, I've missed you. It feels good to be back. Thank you for being patient with me while I've been not available. The work that you guys put out me was fantastic. And I'm not patient.
01:17:03 --> 01:17:05 If we think you've been patient, that's cool.
01:17:06 --> 01:17:12 I have no idea. You guys have a separate Marco Polo thread where I'm just constantly being roasted.
01:17:12 --> 01:17:17 And I'm we call that the Chard Monk Sinister Best Friends thread.
01:17:21 --> 01:17:26 Plus, you to cancel everybody but Chard. Tell people where they can find you.
01:17:28 --> 01:17:31 Hell, if I'm lucky. Beard.
01:17:31 --> 01:17:47 Where can we find you? Over at Cinna Star's house? You can find me on Cinnastar's, motherfucker. All right, so, Jake, let's start with you, sir. Where can people find you?
01:17:49 --> 01:17:50 Mostly here.
01:17:50 --> 01:18:00 Occasionally on Twitter. Not at cinnastar's house or charge house. I wasn't invited just because I'm fucking in Canada. That's okay. I do want to give a shout out, though.
01:18:00 --> 01:18:03 I live around the corner. I wasn't invited either.
01:18:03 --> 01:18:22 Wow. Ouch. Play from below. From Below. I'll link it in discord from below. It's any developer. There's an NES version, there's even a browser version. But go play that game. It's so great to see an indie developer make games for the NES. There's a few people who do it, but I really love From Below.
01:18:22 --> 01:18:26 So go play that as above. Very cool.
01:18:28 --> 01:18:30 Werewolf, how about you? Where can people find you, sir?
01:18:32 --> 01:18:38 Nowhere right now. I've just been kind of kicking ass around the house, trying to get stuff taken care of.
01:18:38 --> 01:18:39 Love that.
01:18:39 --> 01:18:49 Over the summer, I will finally tackle this stuff that I'm supposed to tackle for this for my homework. But for now, once the kiddo starts this summer. But that's about a month out still.
01:18:50 --> 01:18:51 Isn't that fucked up, though?
01:18:51 --> 01:18:58 Like, three weeks ago we were talking about, oh, it's almost 2023. We really need to decide what games we're going to pick now. It's June.
01:19:00 --> 01:19:03 I think none of us have finished our games yet.
01:19:04 --> 01:19:11 If anybody has a good save file right before the Penance fight on Final Fantasy, I'll pay shipping.
01:19:12 --> 01:19:15 I'll take my Wheel of Pain for all of us. Wheel of Pain.
01:19:15 --> 01:19:29 I'll dig mine up for you, bud. We're all playing golem. Fuck it. We're all just going to play that. That's our co op.
01:19:29 --> 01:19:31 We're going to do it for 2 hours.
01:19:32 --> 01:19:37 How many golems are there? What do you got going on? Cindy Star, where can people find you?
01:19:37 --> 01:20:08 So most weeks well, not most weeks, about every other week, I am streaming. I am actually making progress again in Chrono Trigger. Fuck those golems. And so I argue that I am the closest to being done with my Sicily and game in the group, and I am on track to finish for sure by the end of the year. But yeah, Cinnastar 77 on Twitch. I'm also on Twitter. I'm here and I'm also going to throw out like and subscribe and tell.
01:20:08 --> 01:20:11 Your friends, yes, please.
01:20:11 --> 01:20:26 We can always use the support and the recommendations. We love what we do and we would just love to do it in front of more people, which actually is not the first time I've said that this week. Different category. Anyway, we're sorry for it.
01:20:27 --> 01:20:29 It's wonderful, but it is speed running.
01:20:30 --> 01:20:45 Nice. Yeah. Speaking of speed running, tetris. Anyway, leaderboard, and I'll say this for anybody who's down on themselves for not having beaten their Sisophian game yet, if you've at least turned on the system with the game in it, you are ahead of me.
01:20:46 --> 01:20:47 I have one recording.
01:20:48 --> 01:20:49 Well, we're all out of time.
01:20:49 --> 01:20:51 I have one with no sound.
01:20:51 --> 01:20:53 You ever feel like Yoko?
01:20:54 --> 01:21:01 Tell everybody where they can find you and just do it. Just get it over with.
01:21:01 --> 01:21:04 I'll be at GP's house this week.
01:21:06 --> 01:21:08 Let's make sinister jealous.
01:21:09 --> 01:21:12 We're going to start our own MP. Don't worry, I'll hit you up later.
01:21:13 --> 01:21:14 Right on.
01:21:15 --> 01:21:16 I can share.
01:21:16 --> 01:21:54 I can't. I'm selfish twitch twitter here. We just beat Demon Souls today. So I think I can officially say I've defeated all the Souls born games except for the PS Three original, the Darn Demon Souls. Maybe one day we'll get to that, but for right now, I'm eyeballing a run at the DLC of Dark Souls Three to complete the circle of life, as it were. We're going to probably start Last of US and hopefully Red Dead redemption continues to does not continue to be a pain in my ass because I'd like to finish that up too. And then when Resident Evil tomorrow be.
01:21:54 --> 01:21:57 Good time, the remake. Right on.
01:21:57 --> 01:22:19 Love it. Well, everybody, thank you for tuning in. That's everybody. I'm Guy Prime, and this is where you can find me, here at Presbyter cancel. And I'll be around much more now, which makes me happy. I feel relieved to be able to say that. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you guys for being a part of this very special episode that means so much to me, and I will look forward to seeing everybody again next week.
01:22:19 --> 01:22:24 Have a good night. I am Speed.