Ep. 115 - Notorious F.L.O.P. | Biggest Video Game Flops (ft. Thrak and Andre)

[00:00:00] Well, quickly, Visions of Mana. Is it worth my time?

[00:00:03] Yeah, it's like a B-minus? Yeah, sure.

[00:00:06] Okay.

[00:00:06] Yeah, let's see some.

[00:00:07] That's better than most of the games in the series.

[00:00:09] Oh yeah! Oh yeah!

[00:00:11] So basically the answer is like this is the first good mana game in like 30 years.

[00:00:16] So, you know.

[00:00:16] Alright then. Because I played a bit of the demo.

[00:00:20] That's not a remake or anything. Yeah, it's good.

[00:00:23] It has flaws, no doubt, but it's decent. It's more than decent.

[00:00:27] Gatch'er. Gatch'er.

[00:00:28] Ooh, there's a lot of games in that fucking series, boy.

[00:00:31] Holy shit.

[00:00:33] 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15.

[00:00:40] There's 15 mana games.

[00:00:48] What to do, superstars? My name is Aaron.

[00:00:51] I have the world record for chugging antifreeze.

[00:00:54] And you're listening to SuperPod Saga.

[00:01:05] Yeah, that's right. It's SuperPod Saga.

[00:01:08] Hello, welcome.

[00:01:08] Yeah, take off your shoes please. Leave them at the door.

[00:01:12] This is the podcast where we discuss different video game topics each week with different guests.

[00:01:16] We're going to talk about every video game topic there is until there's nothing else left to talk about.

[00:01:21] Today is not one of those days though.

[00:01:23] We're talking about the biggest video game flops, the big old wet farts.

[00:01:28] Or what is it, Entry? Wet butt?

[00:01:31] Wet butt? Yeah.

[00:01:32] If it controls like wet butt, it's going to be a flop for sure.

[00:01:35] It's a bit of floppy wet butt.

[00:01:38] Why is my controller all floppy now?

[00:01:43] Before we get to that topic, let's introduce some guests.

[00:01:46] Two handsome recurring faces.

[00:01:48] We've got Andre and Thrac. Hello boys.

[00:01:52] You can't get rid of me. I just keep showing up.

[00:01:55] He keeps inviting me back for some reason.

[00:01:57] I don't know how this keeps happening.

[00:01:59] Yeah, it was another night where I was like,

[00:02:01] I'm just going to sit here, play some games, chill out.

[00:02:03] And then Aaron's like, oh, god, some shit happened.

[00:02:05] Can you just jump in? I just went, sure.

[00:02:08] I'm here for you, baby.

[00:02:09] And normally I would not be able to on this time,

[00:02:12] but it just so happened to work out.

[00:02:13] You asked me the right day.

[00:02:15] It's always good when Drace here.

[00:02:18] Thank you. It is always good.

[00:02:19] We're probably going to talk about pizza hut

[00:02:20] and olives and all sorts of shit later on down the line.

[00:02:24] I had Domino's for dinner.

[00:02:25] I cheated on pizza hut today.

[00:02:28] Oh, yeah.

[00:02:28] I had tacos for dinner.

[00:02:30] Ooh.

[00:02:30] Thanks.

[00:02:31] Like from a taco place?

[00:02:33] No, we made them.

[00:02:34] Yeah, homemade.

[00:02:35] Yeah, it was great.

[00:02:35] We had some leftover beef.

[00:02:37] And it's the cheese we use.

[00:02:40] It's like the Kroger brand,

[00:02:42] but it's like that quesadilla type of cheese.

[00:02:44] So it's a little bit thicker.

[00:02:46] Works really good in tacos.

[00:02:47] That sounds good.

[00:02:48] Oh, yeah.

[00:02:49] Nice.

[00:02:50] Nice.

[00:02:51] Well, boys, go ahead and take turns introducing yourselves

[00:02:54] and talk all about your shows and the games you like.

[00:02:57] And, Hal, talk about what's up with your favorite fast food taco.

[00:03:01] Oh, my favorite fast food taco.

[00:03:03] Yeah.

[00:03:05] Mad.

[00:03:06] So out here west, we have something called Del Taco.

[00:03:08] So I don't know if you guys have ever heard of that.

[00:03:10] I think I've heard of it.

[00:03:11] So it's like, it's obviously an American,

[00:03:16] Mexican-American place,

[00:03:17] but you also have burgers and fries too.

[00:03:19] So you don't just have tacos and burritos and stuff.

[00:03:21] It's very interesting.

[00:03:23] It's a very eclectic menu, but it's good.

[00:03:26] So yeah, that's my go-to.

[00:03:28] I don't know if I have a favorite.

[00:03:29] I guess like the chicken soft taco at Del Taco.

[00:03:32] That's probably my go-to.

[00:03:33] It's very nice.

[00:03:34] I have a certain sauce on it that's like very,

[00:03:36] like I'm pretty mayo-adverse, right?

[00:03:39] But this has like, this feels like a mayo-based sauce,

[00:03:42] but it's like the only one of that kind that I like.

[00:03:45] Yeah, dude, I am from the show Fine Time.

[00:03:49] I'll set the episode Fine Time.

[00:03:51] We have not made, you know what?

[00:03:52] We should do that one time.

[00:03:53] We should name one of our episodes Fine Time.

[00:03:55] There's no reason why not.

[00:03:56] Or like the finest time.

[00:03:58] The finest time the fine time has ever timed.

[00:04:02] Oh, okay.

[00:04:04] Games that are a fine time.

[00:04:05] Games that are a fine time.

[00:04:07] That's always a good topic.

[00:04:08] Yeah, we talk about whatever we've been playing.

[00:04:10] Could be something old.

[00:04:11] Could be something new, crappy, good.

[00:04:13] Doesn't matter.

[00:04:15] We love to cover news.

[00:04:16] We just cover the state of play, you know?

[00:04:18] We love to cover Nintendo Directs, stuff like that.

[00:04:20] And we'd like to play quiz games.

[00:04:22] So yeah, come have a fine time with us.

[00:04:24] It's just a good old video game time.

[00:04:26] Three guys, three friends talking shit.

[00:04:28] Oh, fuck.

[00:04:29] I almost fucked it up.

[00:04:30] And then what the fuck?

[00:04:33] How am I sorry?

[00:04:35] I'm tripping over my fucking cell phone.

[00:04:37] Well, you were just on fine time talking about Grandi too.

[00:04:40] You were?

[00:04:41] Yeah, I was.

[00:04:42] It's a good episode.

[00:04:44] I did not get to see the official fine time shower room though.

[00:04:47] I'm real upset but...

[00:04:49] Oh, sorry.

[00:04:51] That's for the three of us.

[00:04:52] So there's a special soap and luffa and everything.

[00:04:55] Yeah, when I invited a guest into the fine time shower.

[00:04:58] But maybe one of these days we can...

[00:05:00] That's a sacred place.

[00:05:02] When I was on, I saw the steam coming out the door.

[00:05:05] But it said no guests allowed.

[00:05:07] Andre was like, don't look there.

[00:05:08] Don't look there!

[00:05:09] Don't look over there!

[00:05:10] Out of sight, out of mind.

[00:05:12] Yeah, man, we just have fun.

[00:05:14] We talk about whatever.

[00:05:15] We love to just shoot the shit and be casual about it.

[00:05:20] It's just...

[00:05:21] I love doing the show every week.

[00:05:23] Hell yeah, I love listening to it.

[00:05:25] Speaking of things I love, hello with Rack.

[00:05:26] Oh, hey Aaron.

[00:05:28] You doing okay, buddy?

[00:05:30] Yeah, I just put my...

[00:05:34] Holy fucking shit, I just put my youngest kid to sleep

[00:05:37] and I always fall asleep a little bit in the process.

[00:05:41] So I'm still kind of waking up a little bit.

[00:05:42] So I'm trying to slam the monsters that are always two for three

[00:05:46] because Casey wants to give me cancer.

[00:05:48] I have the Oreo Coke right now.

[00:05:51] I'm sipping on.

[00:05:52] How is that?

[00:05:53] Yeah.

[00:05:54] We tried it on the air.

[00:05:55] Just on the episode we just recorded.

[00:05:56] It's surprisingly, it tastes like Oreos.

[00:05:59] It's not bad.

[00:06:00] I thought it was going to be horrendous.

[00:06:01] Hell yeah.

[00:06:01] Like it's actually not bad.

[00:06:03] I'm okay with it.

[00:06:06] Interesting.

[00:06:07] I wish I had the Coke Oreos.

[00:06:09] Oh yeah, those two.

[00:06:10] I haven't seen those but the Oreo Coke, yes.

[00:06:13] See, somebody needs to try both of them at the same time.

[00:06:17] See what happens.

[00:06:17] That's for a bit of magic.

[00:06:19] That's for a bit of magic.

[00:06:21] We're here to break the laws of physics.

[00:06:25] So yeah, I guess my favorite fast food taco.

[00:06:29] See the problem is outside of Taco Bell,

[00:06:33] if I ever go to Mexican places,

[00:06:36] they're usually more like the local places around me

[00:06:38] and those usually make fantastic tacos.

[00:06:42] Trying to think.

[00:06:43] There is a local fast food taco by me.

[00:06:46] Hold on.

[00:06:46] Let me look them up.

[00:06:48] But while I'm looking them up,

[00:06:49] I'm the co-host of the 3DO experience,

[00:06:52] which is me and Bill talking about the craziness of the 3DO.

[00:06:55] Aaron was just on it.

[00:06:56] We were talking,

[00:06:57] I think we were talking about Samurai Showdown,

[00:06:59] but we talked about a lot of other stuff.

[00:07:01] We covered the state of play because I think it just happened.

[00:07:04] We can't wait to listen to that.

[00:07:06] I don't know anything about that port.

[00:07:08] So yeah, we do that.

[00:07:11] And then also I stream every Thursday

[00:07:13] covering the Psegagenesis Library.

[00:07:15] So I can head over to my Twitch at Thrac94

[00:07:17] to check that out.

[00:07:18] Or if you can't make it,

[00:07:19] I put the VODs up on my YouTube channel at the same name.

[00:07:22] So you can go ahead and check that out as well.

[00:07:25] And yes, the fast food taco,

[00:07:26] they just saw Victor's Taco Shop.

[00:07:29] Victor's Taco Shop.

[00:07:30] We're just Victor with a taco?

[00:07:32] Sure.

[00:07:32] Yeah, they're pretty banging.

[00:07:34] But as I always say,

[00:07:35] when you go into one of these like ethnic places,

[00:07:37] if I don't see a white person in the kitchen,

[00:07:39] I know it's going to be good.

[00:07:43] We have a...

[00:07:45] Yeah, that's a thing.

[00:07:46] That is definitely a rule.

[00:07:48] Yeah, like I love getting Chinese takeout

[00:07:50] and I would not trust that place if I walked in

[00:07:52] and there weren't like Asians

[00:07:54] who like barely spoke English.

[00:07:56] I'd be like, I can't trust it.

[00:07:57] Come on man, come on.

[00:07:59] That's where the good shit is.

[00:08:00] Exactly.

[00:08:01] Why can't I just look at like pictures of the food?

[00:08:05] These websites always have.

[00:08:07] I'm going to be like, order now! Order online!

[00:08:10] You can't look at the fucking food anymore.

[00:08:12] Yeah, I noticed that too.

[00:08:13] That pisses me off.

[00:08:14] Yeah, nobody's hiring like food photographers anymore.

[00:08:18] I'll fucking do it!

[00:08:22] Well, they do have a gallery

[00:08:24] so you can go through there and look through their stuff.

[00:08:27] Yeah, they're looking at them and they look really fucking good.

[00:08:30] They're pretty good.

[00:08:32] Like the one I remembered,

[00:08:33] it was in a place called Fairborn, Ohio,

[00:08:36] which is close to where I live.

[00:08:38] But they've opened up a couple more.

[00:08:40] So I tend to frequent them.

[00:08:43] They're pretty good.

[00:08:44] I like how at the very bottom of their website,

[00:08:46] it says powered by Menufi.

[00:08:48] That sounds cool.

[00:08:49] Menufi?

[00:08:50] Menufi.

[00:08:51] Menufi, the sponsor of this episode.

[00:08:54] Yeah, Menufi.

[00:08:55] So if you're looking at the gallery of their website,

[00:08:59] the very bottom right one,

[00:09:01] this big fluffy taco shell,

[00:09:03] just shit tons of meat and shredded cheese

[00:09:07] and a little lime wedge.

[00:09:08] I could annihilate that right now.

[00:09:11] Man, that sounds so good.

[00:09:12] Wow.

[00:09:14] They'll never know about this episode's existence,

[00:09:16] but shout out to Victor Stakar.

[00:09:18] Get on you Victor Stakar shop.

[00:09:21] Please hire me.

[00:09:24] So my favorite fast food taco,

[00:09:28] I'm going to try to keep it local.

[00:09:29] There's a local chain or like a Midwestern chain,

[00:09:33] I guess called Taco John's

[00:09:35] and it's very like fast food tacos.

[00:09:38] They have fried chicken tacos.

[00:09:39] I think my favorite thing though is the taco bravo.

[00:09:41] It's like a hard shell taco inside of a soft shell

[00:09:48] and there's like a layer of refried beans

[00:09:50] and stuff full of meat and cheese and shit.

[00:09:53] That's shit.

[00:09:55] I'm there.

[00:09:56] You know a crazy story with Taco John's and me?

[00:09:58] The first time I ever heard the phrase Taco John,

[00:10:01] it was in this old ass video called

[00:10:04] Freddie versus Jason 2

[00:10:07] where it starts out with this guy

[00:10:09] sitting in front of a TV playing hockey

[00:10:11] and he's just like, you know, the idea of a sequel

[00:10:14] would sound really good.

[00:10:15] But another movie of these two Titans

[00:10:19] who are fighting each other who can't be killed,

[00:10:20] this is pointless.

[00:10:21] There's only one way to settle this.

[00:10:23] Sportathon.

[00:10:24] They have them play basketball and football

[00:10:27] and all this shit

[00:10:28] and when they would do the instant replays

[00:10:30] they're like, that goes to our Taco John's instant replay.

[00:10:33] I thought it was fake.

[00:10:34] I thought Taco John's was a fake ass name

[00:10:36] and then I learned later it's real.

[00:10:38] I'm like, holy shit.

[00:10:39] The best thing ever is you got to look up the

[00:10:41] Taco John's Nacho,

[00:10:43] or Taco John's Nacho's Navidad commercial

[00:10:47] from like 1999.

[00:10:49] It'll live in your head rent free forever.

[00:10:52] I want to wish you a merry Christmas

[00:10:55] from the bottom of my heart

[00:10:57] and from Taco John's.

[00:11:01] Holy crap.

[00:11:02] Feliz Navidad slaps.

[00:11:04] That might be my favorite Christmas song.

[00:11:05] It's so good.

[00:11:06] I love Feliz Navidad.

[00:11:08] It's the most fun because a lot of them are just sad.

[00:11:11] They're really quiet or they're like that Paul McCartney piece of shit.

[00:11:15] Dude, come on.

[00:11:17] I'll just simply have it.

[00:11:19] I love that song.

[00:11:20] Brutally murdered by reindeer.

[00:11:23] I love Paul McCartney to death.

[00:11:25] I mean, when we do that music pod

[00:11:27] I could do a whole episode on Paul McCartney,

[00:11:29] but like, it's not a great song.

[00:11:32] I love how shitty the synthesizers are.

[00:11:33] It's so good.

[00:11:35] Well, it was during his McCartney to record,

[00:11:37] which was all very like,

[00:11:38] McCartney to.

[00:11:40] I won't go into it.

[00:11:42] That's why that's one.

[00:11:43] Yeah.

[00:11:44] That album is amazing though.

[00:11:45] Like, holy crap.

[00:11:46] No dude, I love a wonderful Christmas time.

[00:11:49] I'm sorry.

[00:11:50] I do.

[00:11:51] I really do that in Feliz Navidad.

[00:11:53] We'll argue about it in the future.

[00:11:56] Oh, oh, if we get the Superpod jukebox off the ground,

[00:11:59] we will do an upset on Christmas songs.

[00:12:01] That'd be fucking cool, man.

[00:12:02] But I found the video.

[00:12:05] I'm going to post it in the description.

[00:12:06] What, of the Nachos Navidad thing?

[00:12:08] No, the Freddy and Jason too.

[00:12:10] Okay, yeah.

[00:12:12] So you can watch it later.

[00:12:13] Aside from Taco Johns though,

[00:12:15] if you go to like any local Mexican place

[00:12:17] get Tacos Beria.

[00:12:18] Beria?

[00:12:20] I don't know if I'm saying it right,

[00:12:21] but those are just little dipping sauce shit.

[00:12:23] Oh my God, they're so good dude.

[00:12:25] Yeah, I mean,

[00:12:27] I think most listeners know this show already

[00:12:30] since I've been on and off.

[00:12:30] I am from originally San Diego.

[00:12:33] So Mexican food down there was just,

[00:12:36] you know, Jesus Christ dude.

[00:12:38] So like I probably the best Mexican food

[00:12:41] you can get outside of Mexico, you know?

[00:12:42] So it's just like, you know,

[00:12:44] so when I went everywhere else,

[00:12:45] I'm like what the fuck is this shit?

[00:12:46] But now where I live,

[00:12:48] there's pretty good Mexican food.

[00:12:49] It took a while, right?

[00:12:51] But you know, yeah.

[00:12:52] So Beria, yeah.

[00:12:53] Yeah, she got there.

[00:12:54] Hell of a good.

[00:12:55] Fuck the Chargers, right?

[00:12:56] Yeah, fuck them.

[00:12:57] I don't care.

[00:12:58] I'm just a Padres fan now.

[00:12:59] Fuck them.

[00:13:00] Yeah.

[00:13:02] All right.

[00:13:15] Well, let's get right.

[00:13:16] What are we talking about again here?

[00:13:18] Well, well before we get to that,

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[00:13:44] Chargers.

[00:13:46] That's enough of that.

[00:13:47] Let's just get to it, man.

[00:13:48] We're talking about the biggest flops, big old.

[00:13:51] Big old flappy titties in my chest.

[00:13:54] What?

[00:13:55] Who said that?

[00:13:56] Roll them back up.

[00:13:58] Roll them back.

[00:13:59] Am I sure?

[00:14:02] It's like, like in those cartoons where

[00:14:05] they cartoon character, their tongue just flies out

[00:14:08] and they roll up right back up like a fruit by the foot.

[00:14:11] I love that, yeah.

[00:14:13] Bubble tape?

[00:14:13] You guys remember bubble tape?

[00:14:15] Yes, I do remember bubble tape.

[00:14:17] Yeah, it's like that.

[00:14:18] There's always that one really gross kid

[00:14:20] who would just take out the whole roll and take a bite.

[00:14:23] Oh, that is so cursed.

[00:14:24] That is so cursed.

[00:14:26] Very cursed.

[00:14:27] So bad.

[00:14:28] It's like years ago I saw a picture.

[00:14:32] A long time ago I saw a picture of a dude

[00:14:35] he posted a picture of just like a McDonald's cheeseburger

[00:14:38] and he's like, oh I eat them with like the wrapper on

[00:14:40] and there's like a bite taken out of it.

[00:14:42] Oh no.

[00:14:44] That stuff is so cursed, man.

[00:14:46] What the fuck, man?

[00:14:48] The pizza with the bone sticking out of it.

[00:14:50] Yeah.

[00:14:51] Or like the hot dog where someone takes a bite of the middle

[00:14:53] like that, like you know, like the middle of the hot.

[00:14:55] Oh god.

[00:14:56] That's disgusting.

[00:14:57] I can't imagine.

[00:15:02] Oh boy, some flops right?

[00:15:05] Speaking of floppy weeners.

[00:15:08] Yeah, let's just get.

[00:15:10] Hold on.

[00:15:11] Okay, hold on.

[00:15:12] Yeah, roll it back up.

[00:15:16] You've got to get the old hose like.

[00:15:19] You talk about a fruit by the foot.

[00:15:27] Oh, shit.

[00:15:28] Let's just talk about Concorde like you just get out of the way.

[00:15:31] Yeah, let's get Concorde out of here.

[00:15:33] The big old one out of the way.

[00:15:34] Can I ask you guys though?

[00:15:36] Have you did you guys ever play?

[00:15:37] I mean, like the there's a beta period like a couple months ago.

[00:15:41] Did you did any of you either participate in this because I did.

[00:15:44] So I actually played the game.

[00:15:45] I do not have a PS5.

[00:15:48] That's right. You got y'all are Xbox.

[00:15:50] I keep fucking forgetting.

[00:15:51] I'll get a PS5 eventually.

[00:15:53] It's just like I haven't I just I'm just not in a rush to grab one.

[00:15:57] Like I'll venture gravel when it's like cheap in the used market.

[00:15:59] I'll catch up on the exclusives and then I'll be fine.

[00:16:02] I want that exclusive R type motherfucker.

[00:16:06] Our type R type final three you talking about.

[00:16:09] Yeah, that shit's hot.

[00:16:11] That shit is very good.

[00:16:13] Yeah.

[00:16:13] For some reason, Concord's like 80 bucks.

[00:16:16] Like what the hell's wrong with you people?

[00:16:18] I don't understand.

[00:16:19] I was like 40.

[00:16:21] So according to price charting, it's shot up.

[00:16:23] Yeah.

[00:16:24] It's it's it's up there.

[00:16:26] I'm sure I could go to Walmart right now and see it.

[00:16:28] No, no, they pulled them from the shelves.

[00:16:29] They probably pulled them.

[00:16:31] Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:32] It's a good Walmart Walmart plus right now.

[00:16:34] See if I am a Walmart plus member verified motherfucker.

[00:16:38] Yeah, yeah.

[00:16:38] Somebody is selling one.

[00:16:40] It says brand new Concord PlayStation 5 sealed in hand PS5 game

[00:16:44] unplayable.

[00:16:45] They're asking for $104.

[00:16:47] Fuck you.

[00:16:48] I'm not please.

[00:16:50] Yeah, disgusting.

[00:16:52] But OK.

[00:16:52] All right, Bajray, you've played Concord so please tell us.

[00:16:56] All I'm finding is jelly.

[00:16:58] They totally pulled Concord out to the home findings jelly.

[00:17:01] Oh my God.

[00:17:02] Sorry, I thought I go now.

[00:17:03] No, it's OK.

[00:17:05] No, I played it.

[00:17:05] So here's the thing.

[00:17:07] I've been playing Overwatch for like ever since it came out even in beta.

[00:17:11] Right.

[00:17:11] So I've been an Overwatch player for forever just a few months ago.

[00:17:15] I stopped playing Overwatch 2 now Overwatch 2.

[00:17:18] I finally gave it up.

[00:17:19] I just couldn't do it anymore.

[00:17:21] So the thing is over the summer I'm looking at stuff like Marvel

[00:17:24] Rivals which looks amazing by the way and Concord and other stuff.

[00:17:28] I'm like I need that fill that hole in my life.

[00:17:31] Fill that hole baby.

[00:17:31] Fill that floppy hole.

[00:17:33] Fill that floppy hole with floppy.

[00:17:36] And like, yeah.

[00:17:38] So like I was kind of I don't want to say excited for Concord

[00:17:42] but I was like I'll play the beta and see what it is.

[00:17:44] Here's the problem.

[00:17:47] So you know how I have you guys ever played Overwatch like ever?

[00:17:51] Oh fuck yeah.

[00:17:52] OK.

[00:17:53] OK.

[00:17:54] So like you know how you know how Aaron like in the game

[00:17:58] the characters are talking to each other.

[00:18:00] May says this to Reinhardt and Winston says this to Winston.

[00:18:03] They all have like these lines with each other right?

[00:18:06] And there's like all this lore and all the stuff you find out

[00:18:08] just by playing the game, right?

[00:18:11] Concord was trying to do this thing where it's like here's a cut scene a week

[00:18:14] and we'll tell you our story.

[00:18:15] Yeah Overwatch had like cool like animated like stuff on you know YouTube

[00:18:19] but that's not the reason why people like the characters.

[00:18:22] It's from playing the game and you get to know them.

[00:18:25] Concord doesn't have that.

[00:18:28] It's completely silent.

[00:18:29] The only thing you really hear is like the announcer being like

[00:18:32] oh the so and so team almost won or whatever

[00:18:35] and it's like there's no personality of that in the game.

[00:18:37] You got to have it in the game.

[00:18:39] Here's the number two.

[00:18:41] It's also not Overwatch.

[00:18:43] I think people see Concord and think oh it's an Overwatch clone.

[00:18:46] You know what it is?

[00:18:47] It's Destiny.

[00:18:48] It's Destiny PvP.

[00:18:50] That's what Concord was I should say in the past tense.

[00:18:54] And so like that's fine.

[00:18:57] I played a lot of Destiny in my life.

[00:18:58] I've never been much of a PvP person but that's okay.

[00:19:02] But is that going to get a whole bunch of people to buy your

[00:19:04] you know $50 or $40 online game?

[00:19:07] I really don't think so.

[00:19:09] So it's for me just from my brief experience with the game

[00:19:12] those are the two things I noticed where I was like

[00:19:15] I don't think this game is new and going to do that well.

[00:19:17] I didn't expect it to go this way.

[00:19:19] You don't get me wrong but like damn dude

[00:19:22] Concord will go down and I said this on fine time when we

[00:19:25] talked about it.

[00:19:25] It's going to be the biggest flop of our lifetimes.

[00:19:27] This is so unprecedented.

[00:19:30] There's nothing like it man.

[00:19:32] A game just dying in two weeks.

[00:19:33] Crazy to me.

[00:19:35] Yeah especially like a big first party like new IP

[00:19:39] and something that they were pushing like decently hard as

[00:19:42] well but I remember when like I think it was like a

[00:19:44] state of play where like a good chunk of it was just

[00:19:46] Concord or Concord or whatever.

[00:19:49] Concord, California.

[00:19:49] Like a lot of people were just like man.

[00:19:52] Like people just seem kind of I don't know about this thing

[00:19:55] but I don't think people expected it to like not to do

[00:19:59] what it did.

[00:20:00] Like I think most people thought like it'll probably have a

[00:20:02] little audience.

[00:20:03] It'll probably last for like a year or two.

[00:20:06] Slowly kill it and it's kind of surprising that they

[00:20:08] killed it in two weeks because like it performed that

[00:20:11] badly.

[00:20:12] You know like you think they would have maybe given it

[00:20:14] a couple months to see if it would gain some you

[00:20:17] know some steam on the tail end.

[00:20:18] But like it just didn't work and people were always

[00:20:21] bringing up like the steam concurrent players which

[00:20:24] I've learned is not the most accurate way to judge if

[00:20:26] a game is popular or not but that's another story.

[00:20:29] So it's just crazy to see this type of like flop at

[00:20:34] this scale like it like it's one thing if it's

[00:20:36] just like a random indie dev or like a third party

[00:20:39] that tries this and it just doesn't work out but

[00:20:41] this is like Sony trying to make something new

[00:20:44] because they don't really have anything else for

[00:20:46] the rest of this year because they had this

[00:20:48] in Astro Bot.

[00:20:49] That was it.

[00:20:50] Yeah.

[00:20:50] You know like they've announced the Ghost of

[00:20:53] Tsushima sequel but that's not coming out until

[00:20:54] next year.

[00:20:55] And the thing is and we just had that state of

[00:20:57] play and I said this on the I said this on

[00:20:59] fine time.

[00:21:00] I think at some point that Horizon Zero Donary

[00:21:03] Master was supposed to be like a big deal.

[00:21:05] They just kind of shoved that in after Lego

[00:21:08] Horizon in that show because they I think it

[00:21:10] because it leaked months ago and everyone's

[00:21:12] like who fucking care like why are we why are

[00:21:14] we doing this.

[00:21:15] I think they saw the response and they're like

[00:21:17] OK let's just kind of hide this.

[00:21:20] Yeah.

[00:21:21] That's what they're doing with it and they

[00:21:22] should because well because well I had said

[00:21:25] on 3DO with the Horizon one and also I

[00:21:28] think there's a rumor days gone remaster

[00:21:30] in the works.

[00:21:31] Yeah.

[00:21:31] Well apparently if I had to take a guess

[00:21:34] if I'm going to be nice to Sony for once

[00:21:37] it's I think it's they're working on like

[00:21:39] the remasters for the PC audience first.

[00:21:43] Like I think that's the idea behind these

[00:21:44] and then when they finish them they're like

[00:21:47] anyway my soul is put on PlayStation because

[00:21:48] it's like a damned if you do damned if you don't

[00:21:51] because if they just release these remasters

[00:21:53] on PC then people be like why not just put

[00:21:56] it on the console man.

[00:21:57] You know people would people would complain about

[00:21:59] that.

[00:22:00] So that's my assumption because all these

[00:22:03] remasters they've been coming out on PC

[00:22:05] as well.

[00:22:06] So I think that's the idea but I still

[00:22:09] get people being upset about it because it

[00:22:12] feels like these remasters are taking the

[00:22:14] place of them making like more like original

[00:22:16] titles or remastering like older games that

[00:22:21] can't be played on PS5 right now.

[00:22:23] You know games that they should be bringing

[00:22:25] back from say like I don't mind the

[00:22:27] remasters and I don't really buy that

[00:22:29] it's taking away stuff like I don't I

[00:22:31] don't really I don't really get it from

[00:22:33] that angle.

[00:22:33] I just don't think that's like worth doing

[00:22:36] you know like I just don't think like

[00:22:38] I don't think we need to be remastering this

[00:22:39] stuff and the point and the thing is just

[00:22:41] going over there 2024 conquered not just

[00:22:44] because it's a historic flop but it sticks

[00:22:46] out because like you know two it's like

[00:22:50] you said two weeks later they had

[00:22:51] Astro Bot you know in the in the world

[00:22:53] eating out of their hand again.

[00:22:55] You know it just it just goes to show

[00:22:57] like guys like you know what I mean

[00:23:01] like maybe just maybe just do

[00:23:03] something different and people will like

[00:23:05] it man.

[00:23:05] Like Astro Bot kind of represents what

[00:23:07] they should be doing but I've read a

[00:23:10] couple articles that suggest that like

[00:23:12] Sony may take the wrong lesson from

[00:23:14] Astro Bot which I think is possible

[00:23:16] but you know we'll see in the future.

[00:23:18] Yeah.

[00:23:19] I hope the lesson they took from

[00:23:20] conquered I'm sorry go ahead.

[00:23:22] I was going to say they like a million

[00:23:23] IPs they could tap into yeah either

[00:23:26] remake or reboot or remaster but yeah

[00:23:30] and I just have a feeling they're

[00:23:32] going to take the Astro Bot

[00:23:33] success not as a sign of oh we should

[00:23:35] bring back these games but just more

[00:23:37] like oh people like this sort of parade

[00:23:39] nostalgia like oh do you remember

[00:23:41] like like it like Astro Bot's a

[00:23:43] memberberry game.

[00:23:44] It's a memberberry game it is you

[00:23:46] know and that's not taking away

[00:23:47] anything from it but it does so much

[00:23:51] that is just like oh I remember

[00:23:52] that that I think it could take

[00:23:55] Astro Bot in the wrong direction.

[00:23:57] I hope that's not the case I just

[00:23:58] hope they realize it's just a good

[00:24:00] ass game and you know what I mean.

[00:24:02] I hope I'm wrong I don't want to be

[00:24:04] right in this case.

[00:24:05] Conquer it appealed to nobody and

[00:24:07] me I'm the market I play those kind

[00:24:09] of games and I was just like yeah

[00:24:11] no thank you you know so.

[00:24:15] Does Lawbreakers still have those

[00:24:16] private servers?

[00:24:17] Oh I forgot about that fucking game

[00:24:19] holy shit I remember your law

[00:24:21] I think it's one of the games I

[00:24:23] want to talk about.

[00:24:24] I thought people brought up I

[00:24:25] thought people were bringing like

[00:24:28] private servers for it back unless

[00:24:30] unless that happened and nobody's

[00:24:32] playing it again unless people

[00:24:35] played it for like a week and then

[00:24:37] just went fuck it.

[00:24:38] Yeah that's probably just like the

[00:24:40] game.

[00:24:40] It's so insane how quickly Sony

[00:24:43] or whoever the fuck pulled the

[00:24:44] plug on concord is it was Sony

[00:24:47] especially considering people paid

[00:24:49] money for the game like it'd be

[00:24:50] different if it was free to play

[00:24:52] and they were potentially losing

[00:24:54] money on it because you know

[00:24:57] people probably not buying

[00:24:58] microchromos there were micro

[00:24:59] transactions or anything.

[00:25:01] Not really.

[00:25:01] People are paying like.

[00:25:02] Did people get refunds?

[00:25:04] Yeah everyone got a refund even

[00:25:05] if you bought it retail you could

[00:25:06] take it yeah they set up a whole

[00:25:08] thing yeah.

[00:25:09] Thank God.

[00:25:10] They could have given it like

[00:25:12] another year and maybe like

[00:25:14] workshopped it a little bit

[00:25:15] maybe learn from player feedback

[00:25:18] and shit do it do the old

[00:25:20] the old Xbox one.

[00:25:22] Like yeah no man's sky.

[00:25:24] Like that's a game that like when

[00:25:25] it first came out everyone was

[00:25:26] like oh it flopped super hard

[00:25:28] and now we cut to cyberpunk

[00:25:31] cyberpunk was another one I was

[00:25:32] thinking of that started out

[00:25:33] really bad but now you go

[00:25:35] and play either one of those

[00:25:36] games is like yeah they're

[00:25:38] actually pretty good they kind

[00:25:39] of fix all the issues 14 if

[00:25:40] anyone remembers oh yeah they

[00:25:43] completely if I remember that

[00:25:45] came out and it was so bad

[00:25:46] they completely scrubbed it

[00:25:48] and then remade it and brought

[00:25:49] it back out.

[00:25:50] It went from being like the

[00:25:51] worst rated Final Fantasy to

[00:25:53] being like the best rated one.

[00:25:55] And also just speaking of

[00:25:57] Concord the Firewoke Studios

[00:25:58] the guy who directed Concord

[00:26:00] left like a few days ago so

[00:26:03] what can I say oh can we

[00:26:05] how about that do you guys

[00:26:06] think the game will ever come

[00:26:07] back because now I yeah see all

[00:26:11] of us on fine time thought no

[00:26:12] as well we don't think it's

[00:26:13] ever coming back.

[00:26:14] I've seen that start to appear

[00:26:17] like online some people

[00:26:18] suggesting will they ever

[00:26:19] bring it back I honestly

[00:26:20] don't think they will.

[00:26:22] Yeah I don't see why they

[00:26:22] would like if they were if they

[00:26:24] were this quick to completely

[00:26:26] kill it I don't see them

[00:26:29] want to put any effort into

[00:26:30] bringing it back you know like

[00:26:31] this isn't going to be

[00:26:32] Morbius.

[00:26:33] No.

[00:26:37] Oh man I forgot about that too

[00:26:39] holy shit all these hidden

[00:26:40] hidden gems no fucking

[00:26:43] Morbius.

[00:26:45] That's a funny that the

[00:26:47] story of that movie is more

[00:26:48] interesting than the movie

[00:26:49] itself.

[00:26:49] Who wants to go next what

[00:26:51] you got to cover we'll come

[00:26:52] conquered as my first okay

[00:26:54] you guys want to talk about

[00:26:56] lawbreakers because I kind of

[00:26:57] wrote that down I would love

[00:26:58] to kind of get into that

[00:26:59] just a little bit at least

[00:27:00] because like it's something

[00:27:03] that sticks out of my mind a

[00:27:04] lot.

[00:27:06] Cliff was in my dude but the

[00:27:08] thing is I was okay I was

[00:27:10] introduced to this game in a

[00:27:12] really weird way it was a

[00:27:14] YouTube ad and I didn't know

[00:27:17] the name of the game yet and

[00:27:18] I was just like you know and

[00:27:19] I was just kind of letting it

[00:27:20] play because I wasn't really

[00:27:21] paying attention and then I just

[00:27:23] heard this extremely adolescent

[00:27:25] dialogue coming out of coming

[00:27:28] out of my TV it's like a 12

[00:27:31] year old whose dad gave him

[00:27:32] permission to cuss for the

[00:27:33] first time or something like it

[00:27:35] was it was so weird it's like

[00:27:37] oh yeah I'm going to blow the

[00:27:39] tits off these motherfuckers

[00:27:40] look I don't have a problem

[00:27:42] with with bad language I

[00:27:43] mean what is fine time right

[00:27:44] except we say fuck 100 times

[00:27:46] but it's just like it's

[00:27:47] floppy then tits floppy bitch

[00:27:50] but like yeah I don't know man

[00:27:51] this just sounded like you know

[00:27:53] it's not adult language it's

[00:27:55] just very like guys what are you

[00:27:57] doing it was there was a lot of

[00:28:00] fuck it was definitely not PG

[00:28:02] 13 okay yeah you're allowed one

[00:28:04] fuck in a PG 13 movie only

[00:28:06] non sexually you can't say it

[00:28:08] sexually you're allowed to

[00:28:10] say like all these fuckers you

[00:28:12] know yeah you can't say I

[00:28:13] want to fuck you tonight because

[00:28:15] you will get a rated R you

[00:28:16] can you have to say these

[00:28:17] motherfuckers like or it doesn't

[00:28:19] matter what you think or something

[00:28:20] yeah yeah the following podcast

[00:28:23] has been rated R it's always

[00:28:26] has been a low cost in New York

[00:28:28] has been rated R that will be

[00:28:30] amazing I would love to see a

[00:28:32] rated R re cut of that movie

[00:28:33] dude incredible that'd be great

[00:28:35] um but no and then so it

[00:28:38] wasn't just that so it was

[00:28:39] very off-putting right so

[00:28:41] that's how it was introduced to

[00:28:41] the game and I'm like okay

[00:28:43] and then Cliffy B man just

[00:28:45] the asshole way he just went

[00:28:47] after overwatch and was just like

[00:28:48] well we don't have a stupid healing character

[00:28:50] with a wand and we don't have

[00:28:52] this cartoony bullshit and blah blah

[00:28:54] it's like it was so unlikeable

[00:28:57] that I was rooting for the game to fail

[00:28:58] and it did it lasted like nine months

[00:29:01] though which is eight and a half more months

[00:29:02] in conquered so I guess there's that right

[00:29:04] but like that game felt

[00:29:06] doomed to fail just because the marketing

[00:29:08] again was so adolescent

[00:29:10] plus it was coming out at a time when

[00:29:12] like Evolve had already kind of

[00:29:14] flopped right and then like

[00:29:16] Evolve yeah and then like

[00:29:20] it's the only game I can recall

[00:29:22] that I feel was released into the

[00:29:23] used game rack of GameStop

[00:29:27] but yeah Lawbreaker

[00:29:28] I don't know and the thing is about

[00:29:29] like most of the games are probably

[00:29:31] going to talk about today with I don't

[00:29:32] know what you guys have these games

[00:29:34] aren't bad like they're not horrendous

[00:29:36] like conquered wasn't a horrendous game

[00:29:38] Lawbreakers wasn't a horrendous game

[00:29:40] it's just the wrong thing at the

[00:29:42] wrong time you know yeah like

[00:29:44] I don't know if you guys have read

[00:29:46] Cliffy B's book control freak

[00:29:49] I highly recommend it

[00:29:51] because

[00:29:52] you get to

[00:29:54] read about Cliff was in C's life and he's

[00:29:56] had a pretty interesting life I mean

[00:29:58] throughout his time in the gaming

[00:30:00] world like coming in very early

[00:30:02] at Epic Games making like jazz jack

[00:30:04] rabbit as like a teenager forgot about

[00:30:06] that and then like

[00:30:08] he hit big with like unreal

[00:30:10] and was considered like one of the future

[00:30:13] major game designers and then

[00:30:15] of course he's most known nowadays

[00:30:16] for the Gears of War franchise

[00:30:18] for kicking that off and making the

[00:30:20] incredible trilogy then he's also

[00:30:22] attached to games like Shadow Complex

[00:30:24] and Bullet Storm

[00:30:27] he technically named

[00:30:29] Fortnite

[00:30:31] like he was

[00:30:32] still kind of around Epic

[00:30:35] at the time and they were showing him

[00:30:36] what would be Fortnite but they couldn't they didn't have a name

[00:30:38] for it and he just kind of threw that out

[00:30:40] there so but he doesn't say

[00:30:43] in the way that like he's trying to take credit for it

[00:30:44] but it's just like a like he might

[00:30:46] be responsible for the name

[00:30:49] but there's a good section of the book

[00:30:51] toward the end where he goes

[00:30:53] pretty much in depth about like

[00:30:54] boss key productions and trying to make

[00:30:56] lawbreakers and like going out on his own

[00:30:59] for the first time

[00:31:00] to make something and he

[00:31:02] yeah he regrets all that shit he did about

[00:31:05] like you know saying

[00:31:06] that like pricing it at 60 bucks

[00:31:10] really going

[00:31:10] after Overwatch and trying to like go

[00:31:12] after the hero shooter and like lawbreakers

[00:31:15] is like a traditional arena shooter

[00:31:16] like an Unreal or whatever

[00:31:18] and he's like and he was like he totally

[00:31:20] missed the mark on that

[00:31:22] and he regrets a lot about

[00:31:24] what happened with lawbreakers

[00:31:26] well that's interesting that he reflects like there's a lot of guys who would never

[00:31:29] even admit that

[00:31:31] going to their grave right so like

[00:31:32] but yeah I just even at the time it's just like dude

[00:31:35] over like what are you this is

[00:31:37] not going to win you anybody like I don't know why you're going after him like this

[00:31:40] yeah oh it was just

[00:31:41] off-putting and bad you know yeah

[00:31:42] I remember it when it first was announced it was free to play

[00:31:45] and then later on

[00:31:47] it was like it became a

[00:31:49] price like actually became a

[00:31:51] priced game and that caused the whole controversy

[00:31:53] and then the other controversy was

[00:31:55] he was doing PC and just

[00:31:57] ps4 there was no Xbox release

[00:31:59] which for him to do that

[00:32:01] was kind of weird because

[00:32:03] I imagine the people who were probably invested in it

[00:32:06] were Xbox people because of the association with gears

[00:32:08] and he talked about how he wanted to kind of stray away from

[00:32:11] Xbox to prove that he could

[00:32:13] make it work on PlayStation

[00:32:14] but again he realized

[00:32:16] and he said it was a business decision as well

[00:32:18] because you know the ps4 did a lot better than the xbox one

[00:32:20] but he has said

[00:32:22] and again I recommend reading his book

[00:32:24] specifically that section on lawbreakers

[00:32:26] where he talks about like

[00:32:27] he says like everything that could have went wrong

[00:32:30] went wrong

[00:32:31] and just like nothing

[00:32:33] happened and when he had the pull to plug

[00:32:34] he was very he was relieved

[00:32:36] but also like depressed

[00:32:38] because he couldn't just make it work and after that

[00:32:40] is when he just kind of left video gaming entirely

[00:32:42] and I don't blame him

[00:32:44] for getting out at that point so

[00:32:47] it was what it was

[00:32:48] but I do recommend that book it's a very good book

[00:32:51] that's interesting that he said all that

[00:32:52] that's very interesting

[00:32:53] he comes off these days a lot more of a mature

[00:32:57] humble guy than he used to be

[00:32:59] like if you remember like how he looked at like

[00:33:01] those E3 presentations

[00:33:02] or you know and he talks about being like

[00:33:04] an immature dude for like a very long time

[00:33:07] so

[00:33:08] reminds me of Phil Fish the guy who

[00:33:11] the guy who made um

[00:33:12] Fez

[00:33:13] yeah a cool game

[00:33:15] except for the video game industry fuck you guys

[00:33:19] I'm done Fez 2 is cancelled

[00:33:20] bye

[00:33:22] I'm taking my toys and I'm taking my Fez and going home right

[00:33:25] fuck you Phil Fish

[00:33:27] fuck that asshole

[00:33:28] fuck him

[00:33:29] that's the thing Fez is not a bad game

[00:33:32] but if you want to play it

[00:33:35] yo ho ho it

[00:33:36] yeah I will

[00:33:38] I will never

[00:33:39] does the recent like remaster

[00:33:42] whatever does that

[00:33:44] does that go to Phil Fish or

[00:33:46] did Fez get a remaster?

[00:33:48] I'm pretty sure because it got released on um

[00:33:50] on switch

[00:33:52] oh a couple years ago

[00:33:54] yeah I forgot

[00:33:55] maybe not

[00:33:56] it goes to Trapdoor and Polytron Corporation

[00:34:00] I don't know what he's involved with

[00:34:02] anymore if anything but yeah

[00:34:04] I don't know

[00:34:04] I remember I saw a panel

[00:34:08] with him and a bunch of other people like shit talking

[00:34:10] um like Japanese games

[00:34:11] that's the thing that sticks out in my mind

[00:34:13] and that was back in like I think it was 2010 when like

[00:34:16] you know hating on Japanese games

[00:34:18] was kind of like the hip thing to do

[00:34:19] that stuff did not age well

[00:34:22] at all

[00:34:22] none of that stuff did dude all that shit is like

[00:34:26] just

[00:34:27] what can I say

[00:34:29] yeah

[00:34:30] but speaking of Japanese games

[00:34:34] I got a flop for you

[00:34:36] this happened a couple years ago

[00:34:39] and

[00:34:39] I was when I first saw it

[00:34:42] I'm like this isn't gonna go well

[00:34:43] I could just tell

[00:34:45] it wasn't gonna go well

[00:34:47] and it didn't go well

[00:34:49] and I think honestly

[00:34:50] most people have forgotten about this

[00:34:52] and I think you guys probably have too

[00:34:54] it was a little game

[00:34:56] called Babylon's Fall

[00:34:59] oh no

[00:35:00] I remember

[00:35:01] oh my god

[00:35:05] yeah

[00:35:05] like I love platinum games

[00:35:09] love them to death

[00:35:11] they've made some fantastic

[00:35:13] video games over the years

[00:35:14] um in fact I think recently

[00:35:16] they have acquired the wonderful 101

[00:35:18] IP from Nintendo now

[00:35:20] yeah well apparently

[00:35:22] they had like 50-50

[00:35:25] um that's how we're able to do the

[00:35:26] remaster for ps4 but

[00:35:29] now they say they own the whole thing

[00:35:30] and people are trying to say part of that

[00:35:32] deal was Nintendo getting astral chain

[00:35:34] but I don't know how true that is

[00:35:36] but we're not here for that

[00:35:39] there's a news piece that they

[00:35:40] acquired the IP from platinum

[00:35:42] so they just own it outright

[00:35:43] that's interesting sweet

[00:35:45] which says to me

[00:35:46] I don't know man

[00:35:50] you never know

[00:35:50] I would love a sequel

[00:35:54] me too

[00:35:54] I think that gameplay could use some refinement

[00:35:57] but there's a great idea there

[00:36:00] it's a great v-plus

[00:36:01] we have more detective segments

[00:36:04] let me be a cop more god damn it

[00:36:06] exactly

[00:36:07] yeah Babylon's Fall also was

[00:36:10] like ps4, ps5 and pc

[00:36:12] I never got to play it

[00:36:13] but it was like an action rpg

[00:36:15] that was you know it was being made

[00:36:18] by platinum being published by square

[00:36:20] and like the last time they did that was near

[00:36:22] automata and near automata famously

[00:36:24] saved platinum from being

[00:36:26] completely disbanded which was fantastic

[00:36:28] so hearing about this

[00:36:30] people were like oh this might go well

[00:36:31] right like people were kind of like this could be something

[00:36:34] special but then

[00:36:36] the dreaded two words came up

[00:36:39] live service

[00:36:41] and that's when everyone went

[00:36:43] oh no

[00:36:44] this is not going to go well

[00:36:46] and sure enough just like the avengers

[00:36:49] crystal dynamics published by square

[00:36:52] it completely

[00:36:53] that also flopped as well

[00:36:54] and with both games

[00:36:56] my guess is the live service

[00:36:59] part got completely

[00:37:00] wedged in by square

[00:37:03] because I haven't played avengers

[00:37:04] I think it's still in game pass

[00:37:06] but from what I've told of avengers

[00:37:09] like the first half is like

[00:37:11] pretty solid and it's just kind of a game

[00:37:13] but then in like the second half

[00:37:14] is where the live service stuff kicks in

[00:37:16] and people speculated that's when

[00:37:19] square were like oh you gotta do live service stuff

[00:37:22] well

[00:37:23] here's the thing I have played Babylon's fall

[00:37:25] I played

[00:37:27] there was a beta period see

[00:37:28] when any of these games have a beta

[00:37:30] I always try it I always try these things

[00:37:32] so I have played Babylon's fall

[00:37:34] and friend of the fine time

[00:37:37] then you probably have heard him on the show

[00:37:39] before he played it with me so it's

[00:37:41] like okay let's try this thing online

[00:37:43] it's some of the worst graphics

[00:37:45] I've ever seen

[00:37:47] like in all respects I'm not

[00:37:49] even joking like the models

[00:37:51] are horrendous the frame

[00:37:53] rate is terrible it has

[00:37:55] this it's trying to do this

[00:37:57] thing where it's trying to look like a painting

[00:38:00] so

[00:38:00] it has this like the near over

[00:38:03] it but it just looks like

[00:38:04] it looks smudgy and it looks like shit

[00:38:06] it looks so bad

[00:38:08] it just looks like something is wrong

[00:38:09] it legit looks like something is wrong with your TV

[00:38:12] is it like the Vaseline filter

[00:38:14] no it's worse

[00:38:15] it really is trying to look like brush strokes

[00:38:18] you know like textured like

[00:38:20] you know what I mean on canvas

[00:38:22] like a peanut butter on there

[00:38:24] basically chunky peanut butter

[00:38:26] oh and it looks

[00:38:28] so bad the mission structure

[00:38:30] was horrendous like the stuff when you finally

[00:38:32] get to town after like the initial

[00:38:34] mission

[00:38:36] you like trying to

[00:38:38] hook up with like oh how do we even

[00:38:40] like play the game together you know me

[00:38:42] and Vin were trying to figure it took us forever

[00:38:44] and that's not good right like

[00:38:46] it took us forever to figure that shit out

[00:38:48] whereas like you know this isn't fancy

[00:38:50] online where it's like okay join my party

[00:38:52] right this was convoluted and then we did

[00:38:54] a mission where it's like

[00:38:56] I don't know Vin died and then he

[00:38:58] could never be revived so I was into doing this

[00:39:00] by myself and it's like what kind of multiplayer

[00:39:02] is this I feel like I think you're right

[00:39:04] right this was like supposed to

[00:39:06] not be like this I don't know

[00:39:08] why well obviously Square Enix

[00:39:10] mandated it but it was just awful

[00:39:12] and every respect now if it were not

[00:39:14] a live service game it still wouldn't have been good

[00:39:16] obviously but like

[00:39:18] Jesus Christ man

[00:39:20] it was it was a disaster from

[00:39:22] top to bottom that's like probably

[00:39:24] I said most of these games aren't bad

[00:39:26] Babylon's fall is fucking bad that was terrible

[00:39:28] and this game lasted six months

[00:39:30] so five and a half months longer than

[00:39:32] Concord

[00:39:34] that's the measurement now

[00:39:37] yeah it is a from

[00:39:38] what you've said a demonstrably worse

[00:39:40] game in every aspect because it's

[00:39:43] crazy like

[00:39:44] platinum had a weird 2022

[00:39:47] man because that same year we also

[00:39:48] got Solcresta which was like their little

[00:39:50] shmup that was like it was okay

[00:39:52] but it was like not worth I think

[00:39:54] it was like 40 bucks when it came out

[00:39:56] it was way too expensive and it didn't

[00:39:58] look good for what it was now

[00:39:59] and I'm told it's painfully average

[00:40:02] painfully average and then

[00:40:03] also that same year Bayonetta 3

[00:40:06] finally came out and I've played

[00:40:08] through that and I liked Bayonetta 3

[00:40:10] for what it was

[00:40:12] I did some of the criticism

[00:40:14] I always thought was a little much

[00:40:16] when it came to some of the lore stuff

[00:40:17] but I thought it was fine maybe a little

[00:40:20] over ambitious for what the switch could

[00:40:21] do but it ran

[00:40:23] surprisingly better than Babylon's

[00:40:26] fault did on a much more powerful system

[00:40:27] they had a great

[00:40:29] yeah man that had a whole

[00:40:31] like quarter lands kind of

[00:40:33] effect to it to where like the second

[00:40:35] game is just so fucking good

[00:40:38] it's like okay how the fuck do you top

[00:40:39] that and yeah I mean even

[00:40:41] even Bayonetta 1 is still like a fantastic

[00:40:44] still fucking solid dude

[00:40:45] the first Bayonetta is I say this with

[00:40:47] no I'm no I'm prone to hyperbole

[00:40:49] Bayonetta 1 is like my favorite

[00:40:51] 3d action game of all time ever

[00:40:53] I know how strongly

[00:40:55] I feel about that game I only need copies

[00:40:58] two on accident

[00:41:00] I have Xbox 360

[00:41:01] I have switch and I have steam

[00:41:03] I have also three copies

[00:41:04] I bought the physical Bayonetta 1 when they did

[00:41:07] that quick little re-release for it

[00:41:09] right as a head of Bayonetta 3 I bought

[00:41:11] because I was like I need to get this

[00:41:12] so like I have the giant Bayonetta 3

[00:41:15] collectors edition you probably can't see it back there

[00:41:17] but like Bayonetta cut out like cardboard

[00:41:19] cut a life side Bayonetta cardboard cut out

[00:41:22] no I love Bayonetta 2

[00:41:23] don't get me wrong I think Bayonetta 2 is

[00:41:25] fucking fantastic

[00:41:26] like I would say 2 is like one of my

[00:41:29] favorite 3d action games I've ever

[00:41:31] played okay I love Bayonetta 2

[00:41:33] to me it's like a complete thrill ride from

[00:41:35] start to finish so they're both

[00:41:37] so good and three just doesn't

[00:41:39] hold up to that for me

[00:41:40] it doesn't but I think it's I think it's fine

[00:41:43] I don't think it's a bad game at all

[00:41:44] I would like it or if I don't know why the performance

[00:41:47] is so bad why does it run like fucking

[00:41:49] ass that doesn't make any sense

[00:41:51] you can tell it's pushing the switch pretty

[00:41:53] hard though they didn't need to do that

[00:41:55] though you just had two games that

[00:41:57] I don't know they pushed it too far they

[00:41:58] didn't know I don't know hopefully the switch

[00:42:00] 2 it'll run better on that

[00:42:02] I hope so um yeah dude

[00:42:05] but yeah babble on small I feel like I'm

[00:42:07] the one who has played every shitty beta

[00:42:08] of every shitty game hey somebody

[00:42:11] needed to do it you know and to be

[00:42:13] fair if I had a PlayStation at the time

[00:42:14] I would have checked this out absolutely

[00:42:17] but it's a it's a shame

[00:42:19] that it happened the way it did and

[00:42:20] especially when it's like the last time

[00:42:22] they worked together was like still like

[00:42:24] one of the most beloved like modern

[00:42:27] RPGs and near automata

[00:42:28] so the fact that they were somehow

[00:42:30] shit the bed on this was like incredible

[00:42:33] but hopefully

[00:42:34] they haven't completely given up on working

[00:42:36] together I mean I hope not

[00:42:38] what did Yoko Taro say that a near

[00:42:41] sequels in the works yeah that like

[00:42:43] he's doing something with the Tom and my guess

[00:42:45] is Platinum is probably going to be involved

[00:42:46] I don't know

[00:42:48] scalebound

[00:42:51] scalebound is

[00:42:52] never coming back a shame

[00:42:54] because that game would have been so good

[00:42:57] though elements of it I think

[00:42:58] are in bayonetta 3 I think they took

[00:43:00] some elements from it in there

[00:43:02] like the big monster fights and

[00:43:04] I swear the first time I saw I can't

[00:43:06] remember her name but the other character you play

[00:43:08] as in beta 3 like female

[00:43:10] the young girl yeah

[00:43:13] for the first time I saw her

[00:43:15] I went is she like the female

[00:43:16] version of the dude from scalebound

[00:43:19] apparently she kind of looks

[00:43:20] similar apparently a lot of astral

[00:43:22] chain was based around some of the ideas

[00:43:25] they used for scalebound like the whole

[00:43:26] companion thing and have an AI

[00:43:28] controller show like that but

[00:43:31] so flops right

[00:43:33] evolve

[00:43:34] holy shit

[00:43:36] I've never played evolve all

[00:43:39] I've ever seen of evolve is when I go into

[00:43:41] like a game stop and it's like five bucks

[00:43:42] yeah dude hold so I pre-ordered this

[00:43:45] fucking game because I play

[00:43:46] I really

[00:43:48] really enjoyed the beta the beta was actually

[00:43:51] good so

[00:43:52] for listeners it's basically it's a

[00:43:56] 4v1

[00:43:57] multiplayer games so if your team

[00:43:59] of four there's different classes there's

[00:44:02] I forget the names there's one person

[00:44:04] they just do damage

[00:44:06] they just do damage to the monster

[00:44:08] there's a healer

[00:44:10] there's a trapper who just like

[00:44:12] catches the monster and like holds him still

[00:44:14] and shit and then there's another class

[00:44:16] I forget but basically you work together as a team

[00:44:18] to basically just kill the monster

[00:44:21] and then the monster

[00:44:22] is another player character and they just run

[00:44:24] around the map they eat animals

[00:44:26] and slowly evolve into these

[00:44:28] different forms getting new abilities

[00:44:30] and skill points and shit

[00:44:32] and there during

[00:44:34] the beta there was just the one monster that you could play as

[00:44:37] but they they gave you more monsters

[00:44:38] as the game went on

[00:44:40] but

[00:44:42] yeah the beta was good then they release

[00:44:44] the game and it was

[00:44:46] still good for a little bit but then they started releasing

[00:44:48] more and more characters

[00:44:50] that you could play as and then the game

[00:44:52] got really unbalanced

[00:44:55] like stupidly

[00:44:57] unbalanced like it's

[00:44:59] that Sony meme where it's like we're so

[00:45:00] back we're so fucked or I'm doing

[00:45:02] that totally opposite

[00:45:04] we're fucked we're back we're fucked

[00:45:06] yeah because

[00:45:07] at first it was like oh the monster

[00:45:10] has too much health they would nerf the monster

[00:45:12] and then it's like oh well now the player character

[00:45:14] or the team

[00:45:16] of four is way too overpowered

[00:45:18] so then they would release

[00:45:19] they would like nerf

[00:45:22] and buff different heroes or whatever

[00:45:23] and then bring in new heroes that you could play as

[00:45:26] and be like well

[00:45:28] okay well now the heroes

[00:45:30] are way too overpowered the monster doesn't stand a chance

[00:45:32] and it would just be this constant back and forth of

[00:45:34] like one is more powerful than the other

[00:45:36] and like how the fuck do you

[00:45:37] they just kept adjusting the balance and they just couldn't get it right

[00:45:40] yeah no matter what they did

[00:45:42] like one would overpower the other

[00:45:44] and they kind of

[00:45:45] also like I said they released different

[00:45:48] kinds of monsters you could play as that kind of

[00:45:50] like change it up

[00:45:52] and help the game a little bit but ultimately

[00:45:55] like it's

[00:45:55] and depending on who you played with

[00:45:58] like if you play with somebody who

[00:46:00] really knows and understands

[00:46:02] the game

[00:46:03] you could probably kind of tilt it more

[00:46:06] in your favor but yeah if you're playing

[00:46:08] with somebody that's new to the game they would just run off on their own

[00:46:10] and if you try to

[00:46:12] three man the monster

[00:46:14] you're fucked but yeah it's

[00:46:16] I think eventually

[00:46:18] so starting off it was like a $60

[00:46:20] game and then they went

[00:46:22] free to play I believe after a couple

[00:46:24] years and then

[00:46:25] they still couldn't attract new players so they were like

[00:46:28] alright we'll just

[00:46:29] fucking kill it

[00:46:30] I remember people I knew a couple people

[00:46:33] who played Evolve and they were really pissed at the DLC

[00:46:36] for some reason

[00:46:37] do you remember any DLC

[00:46:38] yeah okay I think it was just a lot of DLC

[00:46:42] all the new

[00:46:43] monsters

[00:46:44] and the new characters even like new

[00:46:47] I think there were new skins for characters and stuff like that too

[00:46:49] it was all paid DLC

[00:46:51] there was

[00:46:51] like barely anything you could unlock in the game

[00:46:56] I don't think there really was anything you could unlock in the game

[00:46:58] other than maybe like

[00:47:01] new abilities

[00:47:02] for characters or something dumb

[00:47:04] but just

[00:47:05] way too much

[00:47:07] like uh

[00:47:08] I think it was

[00:47:10] paid A2 or 3 also had the same thing where there was just

[00:47:13] way too much paid DLC

[00:47:15] and not enough stuff

[00:47:17] in game that you could

[00:47:19] you could just unlock

[00:47:20] it's a complaint I've heard about paid A3

[00:47:23] yeah there's white people still play 2 more

[00:47:26] yeah paid A2 was so fucking fun

[00:47:28] what blows my mind is

[00:47:30] I'm doing some research on

[00:47:32] Evolve and like

[00:47:33] apparently it was originally going to be developed by THQ

[00:47:37] or

[00:47:37] published by THQ

[00:47:39] right before they died

[00:47:40] and then the team that made it was

[00:47:42] it's called Turtle Rock Studios

[00:47:44] and I'm like why do I know that name

[00:47:47] because

[00:47:47] I just assumed that people made this game were dead

[00:47:50] right

[00:47:51] but no they made a couple years ago Back for Blood

[00:47:54] which was like

[00:47:56] a Left for Dead clone and everyone's like this is a weird Left for Death clone

[00:47:58] and then I look and they made the original Left for Dead

[00:48:01] yeah

[00:48:02] what the fuck

[00:48:03] what else going on here

[00:48:05] they did it all, they did Left for Dead, they did Evolve, they did Back for Blood

[00:48:09] oh my god is Back for Blood any good

[00:48:12] I thought it was

[00:48:13] so okay

[00:48:14] like the okayest game I've ever played

[00:48:17] yeah cause like Left for Dead 1

[00:48:19] is pretty good but I remember having a lot more fun with Left for Dead 2

[00:48:21] that's the one people like

[00:48:23] yeah I've never been a dead Left for Dead person

[00:48:26] I played it like

[00:48:27] the few times I went to like a computer cafe

[00:48:30] was like we were playing that game

[00:48:32] and it's fun to play

[00:48:34] with like other people in that kind of environment

[00:48:36] but I don't know if I could

[00:48:37] deal with it on my own you know

[00:48:40] alright

[00:48:41] I want to talk about one cause

[00:48:42] in history it's not remembered this way

[00:48:44] but I was there god damn it

[00:48:46] and it was this way okay

[00:48:48] I'm old everybody I know this

[00:48:51] so

[00:48:52] it's the sequel to one of the most

[00:48:55] popular games of all time

[00:48:56] and when it came out

[00:48:58] nobody gave a

[00:49:00] fuck

[00:49:01] and that is Street Fighter 3

[00:49:05] I can tell you

[00:49:07] I can tell you this

[00:49:08] when Street Fighter 3 New Generation

[00:49:10] hit the arcades it was so weird

[00:49:12] obviously Alex was the main character

[00:49:14] Ryu and Ken were shoved in at the last

[00:49:16] section second because

[00:49:18] on location tests they weren't even in the game

[00:49:20] it was all original characters and people were like

[00:49:22] what the fuck this is even Street Fighter

[00:49:24] so they added Ryu and Ken at the last second

[00:49:26] this thing came out with 10 characters

[00:49:28] Street Fighter 3 and it had 3

[00:49:30] like THRE

[00:49:31] on the marquee

[00:49:33] at the arcade it didn't even say

[00:49:35] Street Fighter it's just 3

[00:49:37] with this new art style

[00:49:39] and everything nobody

[00:49:40] cared

[00:49:43] obviously all of us are old enough

[00:49:45] to know how big Street Fighter 2 was

[00:49:47] and for the sequel

[00:49:49] to come out and it just to be whatever

[00:49:51] it was crazy

[00:49:53] to me that's like the first time

[00:49:55] I remember a game distinctly

[00:49:57] flopping because this was at Marricade

[00:49:59] nobody played it and it's a beautiful

[00:50:01] game everyone's seen Street Fighter 3

[00:50:03] the animation is off the charts

[00:50:05] right like it is

[00:50:07] incredible the way they worked and

[00:50:09] they spent like 3-4 years making it

[00:50:11] which back then was an eternity

[00:50:13] especially for an arcade game

[00:50:15] especially Street Fighter because

[00:50:17] how many fucking releases of Street Fighter

[00:50:19] had come out by that point

[00:50:21] there's like what 5 Street Fighter 2s

[00:50:24] right so it's just like

[00:50:25] and there was like the 3 alphas

[00:50:27] yeah well alphas

[00:50:29] another series but yeah there's like

[00:50:31] Hell of Street Fighter happening

[00:50:32] right Hell of Street Fighter

[00:50:34] yeah Hell of Street Fighter and it's just like

[00:50:36] this cabinet came out it was so

[00:50:38] untouched and people think

[00:50:40] it's because oh people were things are going

[00:50:42] 3D not necessarily in our arcades

[00:50:44] and not necessarily for fighting games

[00:50:46] 2D was still very very valuable

[00:50:48] in the arcade in 97 when people

[00:50:50] talk about the 2D thing that's a console

[00:50:52] thing because like when we

[00:50:54] talk about like PS1 or Saturn

[00:50:56] N64 it's like no 2D is old

[00:50:58] we need 3D graphics that wasn't the case

[00:51:00] at the arcade so

[00:51:02] the fact that this game came out

[00:51:04] to such little fanfare I noticed

[00:51:06] you know when I was just like

[00:51:08] is it just me here no one give a shit about this

[00:51:10] this game is cool wasn't perfect

[00:51:12] now of course over time we know the story

[00:51:14] Street Fighter 3 second impact comes out

[00:51:16] gets a little more notoriety

[00:51:18] Street Fighter 3 third strike comes out

[00:51:20] gets a little bit more notoriety and then

[00:51:22] over the years that game becomes like

[00:51:24] beloved right yeah definitely

[00:51:26] I think third strike is considered

[00:51:28] the best game of the Street Fighter series

[00:51:30] that's what I was going to say

[00:51:31] people consider that

[00:51:34] I'm more of like an alpha 2 guy

[00:51:36] I like alpha more too

[00:51:39] alpha 3 is one of my favorite games

[00:51:40] of all time but I like

[00:51:42] I think all three alpha games

[00:51:44] are worth playing on their own right but that's another

[00:51:46] I agree yeah I think they're all good

[00:51:50] imagine that

[00:51:51] you know Street Fighter 3 comes out and just

[00:51:52] no one cares it's amazing

[00:51:54] it's amazing to me

[00:51:55] do you think it has anything to do with like

[00:51:57] Street Fighter fatigue maybe

[00:51:59] because since Street Fighter 2

[00:52:01] had come out in 91 right

[00:52:03] and then we had all of those versions

[00:52:06] of 2 and alpha that by the time

[00:52:07] we hit 3 was it most

[00:52:09] people were just like yeah it's

[00:52:11] Street Fighter man like we already know what it's going to be

[00:52:13] and think about it by 97 there was a lot

[00:52:15] more competition you know I mean

[00:52:17] more combat was still doing

[00:52:19] it's in between them two combat was still doing its

[00:52:21] thing I know Mortal Kombat 4 was a

[00:52:23] 3D fighter and that games legacy

[00:52:25] is not the greatest but I know at the time

[00:52:27] it was it was popular

[00:52:29] yeah it was really yeah and also like

[00:52:31] Tekken was a thing

[00:52:32] like Soul Calibur was right around the corner

[00:52:36] like there was a lot more

[00:52:37] competition in the fighting game realm

[00:52:39] for Street Fighter 3 at that point

[00:52:41] compared to say 2 when there really wasn't much

[00:52:43] so the only thing I could guess with Street Fighter 3

[00:52:45] is maybe by that point it wasn't

[00:52:47] evolving enough for people to really stick with

[00:52:49] it and people they

[00:52:51] like to say like Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo

[00:52:53] or Alpha 3 so much that they're like you really

[00:52:55] need another Street Fighter game

[00:52:57] yeah that's part of it

[00:52:59] that's part of it go ahead here yeah I was

[00:53:01] to say so Street Fighter 2 came out in

[00:53:03] 1991 and then from then you had

[00:53:05] in 92 alone you

[00:53:07] had Street Fighter 2 Champion

[00:53:08] and 2 Turbo and then 93

[00:53:12] basically

[00:53:13] from 91 to 97

[00:53:15] you had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5,

[00:53:18] 6, 7, 8, 9,

[00:53:19] 10 Street Fighter games

[00:53:21] not counting base Street Fighter 3

[00:53:24] and base Street Fighter 2 so 10

[00:53:25] fucking Street Fighter games

[00:53:27] and a lot of those were arcade machines too

[00:53:29] like I think Champion Edition was like

[00:53:31] a pure console version

[00:53:33] but you know a lot of them were

[00:53:35] I think there was a Genesis version of Champion Edition

[00:53:37] yeah I think so

[00:53:38] yeah that was the big version

[00:53:41] for that console

[00:53:42] but like yeah so like there's a lot of

[00:53:45] so yeah that's part of it

[00:53:47] believe you me it's just that like

[00:53:49] I don't know you would just

[00:53:51] think people would be more interested in

[00:53:52] it's like oh we finally got the Street Fighter 3

[00:53:54] that was the meme oh now they're gonna make

[00:53:56] Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo Alpha

[00:53:58] plus you know Generation X

[00:54:01] or whatever like you know like

[00:54:02] that was the original meme in the 90s

[00:54:05] of the Street Fighter games right

[00:54:06] then we finally get to 3 and everyone's like

[00:54:09] and so I

[00:54:10] loved the game I

[00:54:12] guess I shouldn't say I loved the game I was fascinated by the game

[00:54:15] it wasn't perfect by any means

[00:54:16] but god it was beautiful and I just

[00:54:18] I felt I felt bad for it I felt

[00:54:21] I genuinely felt that I was like this game

[00:54:22] just deserves more you know what also part

[00:54:25] of the problem is you could

[00:54:27] not port that game to PS1 or Saturn

[00:54:29] it was too intense you had to wait for Dreamcast

[00:54:31] which is not a system a lot

[00:54:33] of people had as we all know

[00:54:34] so that was the first system that could handle

[00:54:37] Street Fighter 3 at home whereas all

[00:54:38] the other ones you could port you could not

[00:54:40] port Street Fighter 3 so

[00:54:43] well another question

[00:54:45] there was another Capcom fighting series

[00:54:47] that was starting to blow up around this time

[00:54:49] and it was like the Marvel

[00:54:51] Capcom crossovers were starting to

[00:54:53] start getting a thing at this point

[00:54:54] we didn't have Marvel vs Capcom 1 yet

[00:54:56] but in 97's when we got

[00:54:58] Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fighter

[00:55:00] Dark Star 1? My favorite one

[00:55:02] were those games more popular

[00:55:05] were people more into Marvel vs Street Fighter

[00:55:07] at the time? Oh yes

[00:55:08] X-Men, Showtime of the Atom, Marvel Super Heroes

[00:55:10] X-Men vs Street Fighter those were big shit

[00:55:13] those were really played a lot

[00:55:14] versus like I would say probably

[00:55:16] people played Alpha a little more just because

[00:55:18] it's Street Fighter as we know it you know

[00:55:20] and with some obviously some new stuff

[00:55:22] but yeah no dude the versus series was

[00:55:24] hot shit dude people love

[00:55:26] those games people were always on that

[00:55:29] shit so yeah

[00:55:30] so maybe it was a case of like Street Fighter 3

[00:55:32] just kind of got lost in the shuffle maybe there was

[00:55:34] just way too much fighting games coming

[00:55:36] out at the time especially from Capcom

[00:55:38] that you know by the time

[00:55:40] we got Street Fighter 3

[00:55:42] people were just kind of like me

[00:55:44] yeah that could be it

[00:55:46] I could be it but also again

[00:55:48] cause I remember when Street Fighter 4 came out

[00:55:50] that was a big fucking deal

[00:55:52] well because it had been so long

[00:55:53] and it was a different circumstance

[00:55:55] and like it just yeah so

[00:55:58] I guess just a victim of you know 1997

[00:56:00] just maybe wasn't the time for that

[00:56:02] I guess but again it was so different

[00:56:04] it only had Ryu and Ken

[00:56:05] you know like people maybe

[00:56:07] just not recognizable characters

[00:56:09] but that didn't stop Street Fighter 2 right

[00:56:11] you know you got to start somewhere

[00:56:12] but yeah just a confluence of events

[00:56:15] caused Street Fighter 3 to not be popular

[00:56:17] at first but then it took

[00:56:19] a couple more iterations and

[00:56:21] a long time after that

[00:56:23] for third strike to become a thing

[00:56:25] so but yeah it eventually ended up okay

[00:56:27] but I tell you what

[00:56:29] that was the most neglected machine I had ever seen

[00:56:31] it was crazy

[00:56:33] and that soundtrack is fucking

[00:56:35] Bob and me

[00:56:36] all three

[00:56:38] Street Fighter 3 soundtracks are

[00:56:40] okay I haven't set up my

[00:56:43] October jam of the week

[00:56:45] on a fine time on Twitter I'm doing Street Fighter 3

[00:56:47] fuck it I'm doing all Street Fighter 3

[00:56:48] like those games are surprising

[00:56:51] how great their soundtrack is

[00:56:53] it's so late 90s it's so

[00:56:55] of the time it's so

[00:56:57] it's so good it's

[00:56:58] boy Jameson has an episode all about that

[00:57:00] yeah and it's

[00:57:02] love it yeah and it segues right into

[00:57:04] like the Capcom versus in-sync soundtracks

[00:57:07] which are also like really good

[00:57:09] and then the Marvel ones are

[00:57:10] okay I think they're

[00:57:12] I love the Marvel ones

[00:57:14] I think NBC2 soundtrack is a

[00:57:16] teeny bit overrated

[00:57:18] I love the Marvel's soundtrack

[00:57:20] it's fine the other

[00:57:22] it's so different I like the other ones done by the

[00:57:24] by the lady

[00:57:26] I was whole with the versus lady but she's also done

[00:57:28] like Mega Man 6 and like

[00:57:30] yeah like other stuff

[00:57:32] like she's one of the best Capcom

[00:57:34] composers ever so like I love

[00:57:36] the versus stuff but

[00:57:38] yeah Street Fighter 3 Notorious

[00:57:40] flop but now maybe not so notorious

[00:57:43] Notorious big flop

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[01:01:24] fingernails right

[01:01:25] when you go paint them

[01:01:27] so many different colors to choose from

[01:01:29] so many different shades

[01:01:32] I guess whatever

[01:01:33] what if you could have like scented and or flavored

[01:01:36] fingernail polish

[01:01:37] yummy that could be kinda good

[01:01:39] what if like

[01:01:40] my nails aren't

[01:01:44] entirely too pink yet today

[01:01:46] I'm trying to do like a woman voice but

[01:01:48] come off as offensive

[01:01:49] what if you try to do a woman voice

[01:01:52] I would smoke it

[01:01:53] there it is

[01:01:56] I need my nails

[01:01:58] to be pink like grapefruit

[01:02:00] that was fucking Gilbert Gottfried

[01:02:02] holy shit

[01:02:03] is that Miss Piggy or something

[01:02:05] Mr. Godfried

[01:02:06] I was trying to do like

[01:02:09] how do you know who the fuck I got

[01:02:10] so yeah flavored and or

[01:02:12] scented fingernail polish

[01:02:15] that's the bit yeah

[01:02:16] you want to paint a little yellow smiley face

[01:02:19] on your nail but it's scented like black

[01:02:21] licorice and lemon

[01:02:21] fucking go for it hey you can even just

[01:02:24] take the little nail polish and like

[01:02:26] on your tongue and just eat it drink it

[01:02:28] right out of the bottle like a little shooter

[01:02:29] you can do that if you want to

[01:02:32] it's crazy

[01:02:33] what's flavored so you can do it they want you to do it

[01:02:36] it's flavored

[01:02:37] like imagine you're just like out in the

[01:02:39] bow and then you see a woman drinking some

[01:02:41] and you think it's like a five hour energy

[01:02:42] and then it's just like no it's my strawberry nail polish

[01:02:46] hahahaha

[01:02:47] oh man

[01:02:49] it feels like

[01:02:50] it tastes like

[01:02:52] like if you're drinking like a syrup extract

[01:02:55] or something you know

[01:02:56] like soda without the carbonated water

[01:02:59] yeah pure agave

[01:03:02] it's like that Eric Andre

[01:03:03] bit where he's like

[01:03:04] he's just uh he's perusing

[01:03:06] around the gas pumps he's like can I get

[01:03:08] just a little squirt and he's just like

[01:03:10] chugging gas or just a gas can

[01:03:12] just a squirt

[01:03:14] daddy needs his juice

[01:03:15] and Eric it's good thing you say that because they are introducing

[01:03:18] their new line of gasoline

[01:03:20] flavored and scented nail polish

[01:03:22] yes

[01:03:23] so if you're in the mood for some diesel

[01:03:26] right but like you know with gas

[01:03:28] prices they're crazy these days

[01:03:30] so you can just buy like a bottle of this

[01:03:32] that's affordable put it on your nails

[01:03:35] and then you know if you're at the office

[01:03:36] doing your chompa chomp

[01:03:38] typing you just go

[01:03:41] chomp a chomp

[01:03:44] yeah just like really

[01:03:45] oh man that's

[01:03:47] like imagine

[01:03:47] it's like a candy coating for your nails

[01:03:50] like the M&M's like coating but on your nails

[01:03:53] so you can sit there and just like lick them

[01:03:54] imagine you're in the office

[01:03:56] imagine you're in the office and you walk

[01:03:58] by one of your coworkers

[01:03:59] and she's just like oh shit

[01:04:01] like this and it's like are you like a cat

[01:04:03] furry what the hell are you doing

[01:04:04] no it's my nail polish

[01:04:08] okay that makes sense

[01:04:09] yeah it's where I'm not alien

[01:04:11] I really love the taste of my fingernail polish

[01:04:13] do you want to bite

[01:04:14] I want to bite

[01:04:16] his biner finger

[01:04:19] Audrey what's your favorite flavor combination

[01:04:21] and or shape or design

[01:04:23] for your nails when you're feeling feisty

[01:04:25] and fierce

[01:04:26] I like the

[01:04:28] yellow and red swirl that tastes like pepperoni pizza

[01:04:30] that's my favorite

[01:04:31] because sometimes you just need that

[01:04:34] I know we always think of the sweet flavors

[01:04:36] but they have savory flavors too

[01:04:38] and I just you know I really like that one

[01:04:40] it just gives me a hit it's like man do I really

[01:04:42] want to order a pizza or do I just want

[01:04:44] I just want the essence of pizza

[01:04:45] you can definitely get it from this uh

[01:04:47] this flavorful nail polish

[01:04:52] essence of flavor

[01:04:54] that's what it's called

[01:04:55] it'd be like um

[01:04:57] like that lip gloss

[01:04:59] brand from like the early 2000s lip smackers

[01:05:01] so they had all these goofy

[01:05:03] flavor packs and shit

[01:05:04] holy shit you can get like

[01:05:07] coke flavored like a chap stick

[01:05:09] oh god that's crazy

[01:05:11] yeah I've heard the lip smackers

[01:05:12] it's like eight dollars fuck that

[01:05:14] it's expensive

[01:05:15] let's get my birds bees for fucking four dollars

[01:05:19] or whatever

[01:05:20] just the cold shit

[01:05:21] that's a lot of money for that

[01:05:23] don't you steal wool on my lips

[01:05:26] get all the shit off

[01:05:27] back when I was working at the retail

[01:05:30] store I used to just steal the birds bees

[01:05:31] I would just take one

[01:05:33] some like I'm paying for this shit

[01:05:36] no it was just one at a time

[01:05:37] I'm taking all this birds bees home

[01:05:39] screw you Bert

[01:05:41] running into the parking lot just

[01:05:42] spilling birds bees everywhere just comically from his arms

[01:05:45] just

[01:05:47] like they're like did you steal

[01:05:48] they're like no

[01:05:52] never heard of a birds bee

[01:05:56] Thrac what's your favorite flavor combination

[01:05:58] and more shape or flavor

[01:05:59] my favorite is the one that it just

[01:06:02] looks like weird like vomit has just like

[01:06:04] splashed on your hands you know it looks

[01:06:06] like somebody did it with their left hand

[01:06:08] or whatever

[01:06:10] yeah well most people learn

[01:06:12] but when you go in and you're

[01:06:14] non-dominant hand but when you go in

[01:06:15] lick it it tastes like a really nice

[01:06:17] seven layer dip

[01:06:19] we all know once you combine it

[01:06:21] all together it kinda looks like how

[01:06:23] it's gonna look when it's done

[01:06:24] like sludge like toxic sludge

[01:06:27] yeah it's hard to keep

[01:06:29] the layer separate I must say

[01:06:31] but now with your fingernails you can

[01:06:34] sometimes I like to draw a little snowman

[01:06:35] on there and it'll be like like coconut

[01:06:38] and it's your sour cream on the top

[01:06:39] oh okay yeah the white is sour

[01:06:42] cream my bad yeah sour cream

[01:06:44] and uh

[01:06:45] the white is sour cream you know

[01:06:46] I'm trying to get like a really foul orange flavor

[01:06:50] um

[01:06:51] you can eat orange stuff

[01:06:55] I've noticed this about you okay

[01:06:57] what I love orange things what are you talking

[01:07:00] about that way maybe it's orange behind him

[01:07:02] maybe it's not okay maybe it wasn't

[01:07:04] you who the hell did I podcast

[01:07:06] with the hates orange I don't know

[01:07:08] maybe I guess it's not you

[01:07:09] I'm just trying to I'm trying to think of like

[01:07:11] these report back let me know

[01:07:13] what's a foul orange flavor

[01:07:15] um Otterpops

[01:07:18] Otterpops holy

[01:07:19] shit I don't like that I don't like the

[01:07:21] orange ones of those

[01:07:24] Runtz Runtz

[01:07:25] Runtz oh like the fucking banana ones

[01:07:27] yeah

[01:07:28] Runtz are a bad candy they are a bad

[01:07:30] circus peanut circus peanut

[01:07:32] oh yeah I like circus peanuts

[01:07:35] they're disgusting

[01:07:36] circus penis circus peanuts

[01:07:38] circus penis oh my god

[01:07:41] that's your size

[01:07:42] marshmallow

[01:07:45] thank you

[01:07:46] circus penis's response to this

[01:07:48] episode

[01:07:58] oh fuck man

[01:08:00] oh yeah uh thrax turn yeah go ahead

[01:08:02] okay we're back oh wait

[01:08:05] yeah my bad uh we're back okay now go

[01:08:08] thank you

[01:08:09] Patreon

[01:08:11] oh sure

[01:08:12] okay so so this commercial flop

[01:08:14] um it might be one

[01:08:16] of the most notable

[01:08:18] flops of all time for

[01:08:20] its like

[01:08:22] it's crazy ass history

[01:08:24] taking forever to

[01:08:26] come out and by the time it came

[01:08:28] out like people really

[01:08:30] didn't care anymore and now it

[01:08:32] served as like a footnote

[01:08:35] in gaming history

[01:08:36] I think you I think you know what I'm talking about

[01:08:38] I don't Duke

[01:08:40] nukem forever oh

[01:08:42] oh yes

[01:08:43] I oh boy like

[01:08:46] when I first got

[01:08:48] into following video game news on the internet

[01:08:51] one of the interwebs

[01:08:53] one of the first things I ever saw

[01:08:55] was this game called Duke nukem forever

[01:08:57] a game that was

[01:08:58] toad into becoming out any day now

[01:09:00] this is like in 2001

[01:09:01] any day now

[01:09:04] and it's gonna blow your

[01:09:05] fucking toilet out of its

[01:09:08] your circus penis right off

[01:09:10] of your clown body

[01:09:13] can you fly Bobby

[01:09:17] and and yeah like

[01:09:18] it just it just took forever

[01:09:20] and ever and I remember I think it was in

[01:09:22] 2007 it got that

[01:09:24] trailer of just like Duke just like

[01:09:27] lifting weights

[01:09:28] in a gym and it would like cut

[01:09:30] and it was like holy shit this game graphically looks

[01:09:32] like freaking amazing and they're like it's coming

[01:09:34] out like 2008 and it's like oh man

[01:09:36] that was so cute and then it just

[01:09:38] it just kept going and kept going

[01:09:40] kept going so by the time

[01:09:42] that 3d realms just shut

[01:09:44] down because they couldn't afford

[01:09:46] to still be making this game

[01:09:47] and then they and then they sold all their stuff

[01:09:50] off to I think it was 2k in gearbox

[01:09:52] and then it was Randy

[01:09:54] pitchford involved in this I was

[01:09:55] was yeah of course he was

[01:09:58] and they were able to

[01:09:59] eventually push the game out the door they're just like

[01:10:01] fuck it like just get it done

[01:10:03] right and they got it done and then it came out

[01:10:06] and it was

[01:10:08] one of and I remember I played it when it came out

[01:10:10] and it was one of the most

[01:10:11] average games I

[01:10:14] have ever played in my entire life because

[01:10:16] it did not know if it wanted to be

[01:10:18] like a Duke Nukem 3d

[01:10:20] style old school shooter or if it wanted to

[01:10:22] embrace the new at the time like Call of Duty

[01:10:24] style shooters and it just kind

[01:10:26] of fit in this weird

[01:10:28] crevice of not being more

[01:10:30] of one or the other and it just ended up

[01:10:32] being a completely

[01:10:34] forgettable game for such a

[01:10:35] unforgettable history the end product

[01:10:38] was just nothing to write home about

[01:10:40] at all. Yeah dude

[01:10:42] this has been so I remember

[01:10:44] hearing about Duke Nukem forever and like the

[01:10:46] late 90s basically is whenever

[01:10:48] they started doing it and then of course

[01:10:50] 2001 is when it started getting like okay guys

[01:10:52] is this is this happening or not

[01:10:54] you know that's probably about like you

[01:10:56] said when you heard of it

[01:10:58] and I played it too

[01:11:00] my friend had it I borrowed it from him because

[01:11:02] I wasn't going to pay for this shit on

[01:11:04] 360 and it's I

[01:11:06] think the game is perfectly

[01:11:08] okay when you're shooting stuff

[01:11:10] the problem is you don't get to do a whole

[01:11:12] lot of that there's like a part where you have to drive the RC car

[01:11:14] around there's like a part

[01:11:16] where they make you do this and that's like can I just

[01:11:18] can I Duke Nukem

[01:11:21] like please

[01:11:21] like I just don't I don't understand

[01:11:24] I was gonna say I don't understand what the focus

[01:11:26] was but they didn't have any so I

[01:11:27] clearly by playing it

[01:11:29] it's incredible how much

[01:11:31] time you spend in Duke Nukem forever not

[01:11:34] doing Duke Nukem stuff

[01:11:36] yeah and they tried to shoe horn

[01:11:38] in all that like adult humor

[01:11:39] of like you know oh you can like actually

[01:11:42] like take a piss in a toilet or

[01:11:43] like when it cuts to like oh all those

[01:11:46] women are blowing you or whatever and it's just

[01:11:48] like it doesn't it just

[01:11:50] doesn't work you know

[01:11:51] 90s ass humor man it's just

[01:11:53] yeah and it just like

[01:11:57] it's just they're not

[01:11:58] executed well at all so it's

[01:12:00] just like what the hell are you doing like the

[01:12:01] only part that I always really liked was when

[01:12:03] you fight that boss on the football field at the very

[01:12:06] start and then when you kill him

[01:12:08] Duke Nukem just like punts his

[01:12:10] his head through the goalpost

[01:12:12] like that was cool that's funny yeah but

[01:12:14] that's really the highlight of the game is

[01:12:16] that right there and then it just completely

[01:12:18] goes off the rails can you also

[01:12:20] take a poop out of one of the toilets

[01:12:21] and just like throw it all over like

[01:12:24] at the beginning that's kind of cool

[01:12:25] but the thing is you could already

[01:12:27] you could already go to like one of the

[01:12:30] you could already go up to one of the

[01:12:32] flat urinals on the wall and Duke Nukem 3D

[01:12:34] and already take a piss and it had to like a tinkle

[01:12:36] sound and everything like that was already a thing

[01:12:38] right so it wasn't it wasn't like

[01:12:40] it was more charming in 3D

[01:12:41] like all that weird stuff was kind of charming

[01:12:43] well yeah you know like as the OJ Bronco

[01:12:46] Chase on the bar TV up there

[01:12:48] and stuff and just like I get it

[01:12:49] that's like super 90s but like at the same

[01:12:52] time that just doesn't translate to

[01:12:53] 2011 it's a completely different world

[01:12:55] it's like we had all that humor edgy

[01:12:57] stupid humor already and it's not funny

[01:13:00] anymore like it's just like stupid

[01:13:02] and also Duke Nukem 3D has

[01:13:04] the advantage of just being a better

[01:13:06] feeling shooter

[01:13:07] like that game is still surprisingly fun to play

[01:13:10] it's very fun like now like

[01:13:11] like in this like weird boomer shooter revival

[01:13:14] I'm surprised they haven't tried to push out of Duke Nukem

[01:13:16] game but like they remaster that

[01:13:18] game like every five years it feels

[01:13:20] like it kind of like you know so it's

[01:13:22] about time for another yeah so

[01:13:24] they keep trying to be like oh it's still

[01:13:25] relevant it's like it's not really

[01:13:27] relevant anymore but it's a game that you

[01:13:28] play and in that era it fits perfectly

[01:13:31] well like it's a fun game for its time

[01:13:34] but it just it didn't have that

[01:13:35] you know it wasn't able to transition

[01:13:37] out of that like a Wolfenstein or a

[01:13:39] doom into stuff that's like completely

[01:13:40] different now so like and I just don't

[01:13:43] think Duke Nukem was ever going to be

[01:13:44] that because the people at the helm

[01:13:46] were just like John Carmack wasn't

[01:13:48] involved in this shit you know he was

[01:13:50] going to make this work exactly

[01:13:51] yeah the Duke Nukem forever was just

[01:13:54] puzzling I just didn't understand it's

[01:13:56] like you guys should have just not release

[01:13:57] this it's just not it at all

[01:14:00] and you know it's crazy is for

[01:14:02] a the longest time it held the Guinness

[01:14:04] World Record for the longest development

[01:14:06] for a video game it's gotta be

[01:14:08] but you know

[01:14:10] I guess you on the evil to be on good

[01:14:12] and evil to the record now

[01:14:14] mm-hmm yeah again that

[01:14:16] might be closer to releasing

[01:14:18] than we think but I do not

[01:14:20] when I see it I do not think

[01:14:22] we will ever see that game if Kevin

[01:14:24] ever wants to put that on place your bets

[01:14:25] on fine time I will always bet against

[01:14:28] beyond good and evil to releasing

[01:14:30] I don't think that'll ever happen

[01:14:31] the only reason I

[01:14:33] think maybe they might do something

[01:14:35] with it is because that beyond good

[01:14:37] and evil remaster that came out actually

[01:14:39] like has stuff in the game that references

[01:14:42] beyond good and evil to in it

[01:14:44] which made me think actually like trying

[01:14:46] to still do something with this

[01:14:49] there is new content in that game

[01:14:50] that is directly tied to beyond good

[01:14:52] and evil to they said it

[01:14:53] they said it I didn't say it just just don't

[01:14:56] get that remaster on switch it is wet but

[01:14:59] I have it on my series X

[01:15:01] and it runs perfectly runs

[01:15:02] it's true which is he's X

[01:15:04] among other things it runs at 30

[01:15:06] which is embarrassing because the original

[01:15:08] game people with 60 I have no idea

[01:15:10] what they're doing

[01:15:10] I don't think Ubisoft know what they're doing

[01:15:13] I have no idea anyway

[01:15:16] oh man do them forever

[01:15:18] what a what an atorious you know speaking

[01:15:20] of flops yeah just it just

[01:15:22] one of the biggest of all time

[01:15:23] just a big diarrhea

[01:15:25] I will say credit to GameStop

[01:15:29] for honoring

[01:15:30] that dude who preordered it in 2001

[01:15:34] he would have supposed to come out with like

[01:15:35] PS2 or something like that

[01:15:37] well famously in 2001

[01:15:39] a dude had a receipt from a GameStop

[01:15:41] that he like preordered the game

[01:15:43] right and then when the game was actually

[01:15:45] coming out it might I think GameStop

[01:15:47] not only like kept that

[01:15:49] but then Gearbox sent him like a bunch of stuff

[01:15:51] as well that's cool you can look it up

[01:15:53] yeah yeah it

[01:15:55] that was nice of them to do that

[01:15:57] I'm uh I'm reading about the development

[01:15:59] of Duke Nukem forever

[01:16:01] having all my favorite bits how much time you have

[01:16:03] it's like 15 years

[01:16:05] I didn't read too much

[01:16:07] my favorite bit is this one

[01:16:09] right here where it says

[01:16:11] so the co-founder

[01:16:13] of 3D Realms George Broussard

[01:16:15] a good bunch of like what

[01:16:17] kept the game in development

[01:16:19] was because I could find it again

[01:16:21] he became Broussard became

[01:16:23] obsessed with incorporating new technology

[01:16:25] and features from competing games

[01:16:27] it could not bear

[01:16:28] for Duke Nukem forever to be perceived

[01:16:31] as outdated so he's

[01:16:34] he's got it in there like

[01:16:35] how ironic because when the game

[01:16:37] came out it was outdated

[01:16:40] couldn't bear for it to be

[01:16:41] considered outdated what a fucking baby

[01:16:43] there's a great um if you know

[01:16:45] Matt McMussles is like he made a whole

[01:16:47] video on the history of this so Aaron

[01:16:49] if you want to know the history watch that video

[01:16:51] he also has a video on Street Fighter 3

[01:16:53] if you really want to know the whole

[01:16:55] carnage I think curious to that because

[01:16:57] he's a fighting game guy yeah he is

[01:16:59] he has a video on Street Fighter 3 that is

[01:17:01] really good as well yeah when's Marvel

[01:17:04] Marvel

[01:17:05] Marvel

[01:17:06] that's woolly but whatever

[01:17:08] speaking of fighting games this is one of my picks but like

[01:17:11] ever since we did that samurai showdown

[01:17:13] episode Thrac I've

[01:17:15] been digging through all the different Neo

[01:17:17] Geo pocket color fighting games

[01:17:19] and Gal fighters holy

[01:17:21] shit that's a good game

[01:17:23] yeah it's no

[01:17:25] Neo turf masters but you know it's okay that's true

[01:17:27] oh I'm gonna play this

[01:17:28] I'm gonna play that right as soon as we're done here

[01:17:31] I'm gonna play Neo turf masters god damn it

[01:17:33] that sounds good

[01:17:34] player one

[01:17:36] hey boy

[01:17:38] the music

[01:17:41] on the queen

[01:17:42] yeah queen

[01:17:44] you could hear that from

[01:17:46] across the arcade I promise

[01:17:48] you you could always hear that clip

[01:17:50] you always when someone's playing Neo turf masters

[01:17:52] I've never played it in an arcade but

[01:17:54] god damn I would love to

[01:17:56] oh it was

[01:17:57] I put a lot of money into that thing because I sucked at golf at that time

[01:18:00] I guess I'm not that great at it now but now that

[01:18:02] you know it's on arcade archives or whatever

[01:18:04] I have a little more practice

[01:18:05] oh yeah and I have it on switch

[01:18:07] I have it on like my amber neck

[01:18:09] of course you know

[01:18:10] the only holy grail arcade game I ever played

[01:18:14] was I found the Simpsons arcade

[01:18:16] game just like at a random

[01:18:18] like arcade mini golf like batting cage

[01:18:20] place and I got like

[01:18:22] think I got like five bucks

[01:18:24] and quarters and I was like I am not

[01:18:26] leaving until I beat this game

[01:18:28] and I beat it

[01:18:30] almost all the I did not spend all that

[01:18:32] five bucks and quarters the best arcades in town

[01:18:34] growing up or at the

[01:18:36] the ours is called family

[01:18:38] fun center had mini golf batting cages

[01:18:39] etc. like you just said go carts and all that

[01:18:42] and had the best arcade in town

[01:18:44] yeah so it was an old

[01:18:46] Simpsons arcade machine but I finally got to play

[01:18:48] it and it was a good game

[01:18:51] dude and Brunik

[01:18:52] so they have these like

[01:18:54] these models that are designed after

[01:18:56] the Game Boy Advance SP

[01:18:58] they just released translucent

[01:19:00] black, red and green

[01:19:02] versions and it's like

[01:19:04] no way I mean I want that translucent

[01:19:06] green one

[01:19:07] how many amber nicks do you have?

[01:19:09] just the one

[01:19:11] just the one man

[01:19:13] look at his wall back there he has like seven on a shelf

[01:19:15] like just lying

[01:19:16] his wife is like did you buy another amber neck

[01:19:20] and you're like no

[01:19:20] she's like please we need Cheerios please

[01:19:23] amber neck

[01:19:25] I can't keep living off of this

[01:19:29] flavored nail polish

[01:19:31] he just sucked away

[01:19:33] some of the pepperoni flavored

[01:19:35] mom I'm hungry

[01:19:37] have some more nail polish bitch

[01:19:41] playing the oturf masters

[01:19:43] shut up and drink more nail polish

[01:19:47] we've got it for life

[01:19:50] speaking of hard

[01:19:51] wet diarrhea

[01:19:51] the Koleing 2

[01:19:54] what a fucking

[01:19:55] piece of shit

[01:19:56] the Koleing 2

[01:20:00] C-U-L-L-I-N-G

[01:20:02] I've never heard of this in my life

[01:20:04] oh yeah I have

[01:20:05] what the fuck is this cover

[01:20:07] what the hell is going on

[01:20:09] you can strap the fuck in

[01:20:12] strap on strap in

[01:20:14] so the Koleing

[01:20:15] the Koleing was like one of the first

[01:20:17] few battle royale games

[01:20:19] basically it was that

[01:20:21] and pubg

[01:20:22] and then the fortnite battle royale came later on

[01:20:25] and yeah the Koleing

[01:20:27] was popular ish

[01:20:29] eventually got dominated by

[01:20:31] pubg and fortnite

[01:20:33] but after a while

[01:20:35] the developers

[01:20:37] they decided to

[01:20:39] try to throw together a sequel

[01:20:41] as fast as they could

[01:20:42] let me see what the release date was

[01:20:46] so the first game came out

[01:20:48] October 5th 2017

[01:20:50] the sequel released

[01:20:52] July 10th 2018

[01:20:54] so basically

[01:20:56] just a year later

[01:20:57] wow

[01:20:58] and it was so unfinished

[01:21:01] like the game

[01:21:02] barely fucking functioned

[01:21:05] let me find my favorite part

[01:21:07] where is it at

[01:21:08] what's crazy is yeah fortnite came out

[01:21:11] September 26 2017

[01:21:12] the calling was October 5th 2017

[01:21:15] and then pubg

[01:21:16] was December 20th

[01:21:18] so yeah it somehow predated pubg

[01:21:21] but like came out right after fortnite

[01:21:23] steam rolled

[01:21:24] and I remember when the battle royale

[01:21:27] thing happened the first one I heard about

[01:21:29] was pubg

[01:21:29] that was the first one and then I heard about fortnite

[01:21:32] after because I think

[01:21:34] in 2018 is when fortnite really

[01:21:37] took off

[01:21:37] yeah

[01:21:38] oh boy listen to this

[01:21:40] for the calling 2

[01:21:42] steam peak player counts for the game

[01:21:45] on its first day were around 250 players

[01:21:48] and within

[01:21:49] 40 hours the game dropped

[01:21:51] to just one

[01:21:53] was it you

[01:21:54] I was playing the calling too

[01:21:57] I remember watching

[01:21:59] my clone moist critical

[01:22:02] play the game

[01:22:03] I think he was like one of the two people online

[01:22:05] at the time and he was just running around goofing around

[01:22:08] and then trying to play the game

[01:22:09] but of course there weren't enough players

[01:22:11] for the game to start a game

[01:22:13] so you just goof around like the lobby area

[01:22:16] what's funny is when you said the one player

[01:22:18] count that reminded me of

[01:22:19] there was an article for babelon's fall

[01:22:22] like after a while there was just one guy playing it

[01:22:24] I forget who it was

[01:22:26] but somebody found them and interviewed them

[01:22:28] like why are you still playing this game

[01:22:30] and they're like yeah that's okay

[01:22:32] yeah that's exactly what I was thinking of

[01:22:34] because it always was one person playing

[01:22:35] I think they were trying to get the platinum

[01:22:38] yeah it always said

[01:22:39] they had one person playing

[01:22:42] well that was the joke on fine time

[01:22:44] because this game came out very early in the show's history

[01:22:46] and I played the demo and I talked about it

[01:22:48] that's how I know how shitty it is

[01:22:50] so it's just like dude

[01:22:51] if the three of us get online

[01:22:53] we will quadruple the player count

[01:22:56] if we go play

[01:22:58] babelon's fall right now

[01:23:00] that was always a joke

[01:23:01] but yeah I did notice that

[01:23:02] there was always one guy playing

[01:23:05] but yeah

[01:23:06] it's just one dude

[01:23:10] yeah amazing

[01:23:11] yeah the calling two I completely forgot about the calling two

[01:23:14] I mean obviously

[01:23:15] a lot of stuff happened in that big

[01:23:17] um

[01:23:19] battle rail boom

[01:23:20] and I remember fortnite being a thing

[01:23:22] but they had sort of like a different

[01:23:24] didn't they not have the battle rail at first

[01:23:26] wasn't it like something else

[01:23:28] like some sort of like

[01:23:29] pve kind of like

[01:23:31] I feel like a battle rail for percentage leader

[01:23:34] yeah I think it was

[01:23:35] it was originally like

[01:23:38] fortnite saved the world and it was like a

[01:23:40] survival game

[01:23:41] yeah and the building ship

[01:23:44] had way more to it than you see

[01:23:46] and then the battle rails when they added

[01:23:48] like the shooter elements to it

[01:23:49] and that's just kind of like morphed into fortnite

[01:23:52] yeah but

[01:23:53] well that's what the people say who like

[01:23:55] they didn't understand why the game had building

[01:23:57] for a long time is because that's what you did

[01:23:59] in the original fortnite so it made it

[01:24:01] yeah but it worked out because

[01:24:03] it helped that game stand out from say like a pub g

[01:24:05] yeah kind of

[01:24:06] because like the calling like

[01:24:09] I don't remember this game literally

[01:24:11] at all and I think

[01:24:13] they're trying to

[01:24:14] just like throw a sequel out

[01:24:17] when like the boom was happening

[01:24:19] when really what they should have done

[01:24:21] is just work on the game that they had

[01:24:23] maybe did like a big update to it

[01:24:26] because then maybe it could be number three still

[01:24:27] yeah man

[01:24:29] because listen to this on july 18th

[01:24:32] eight days after the

[01:24:34] second game released

[01:24:34] they pulled the game from storefronts closed down the servers

[01:24:38] we find that all purchases

[01:24:39] and basically just like

[01:24:41] like farted the original game

[01:24:44] back out as like calling

[01:24:45] origins

[01:24:47] and then just did that for a while

[01:24:49] and then made it free to play

[01:24:51] that's probably the smartest thing to do

[01:24:53] because god damn

[01:24:54] so did it last longer than concord or less

[01:24:57] less less

[01:24:58] oh my god how many days to concord last

[01:25:02] 14 weeks

[01:25:03] yeah over two weeks and this lasted 18 days

[01:25:07] kind of like fort

[01:25:08] eight days actually oh damn

[01:25:12] well concord's got to win now

[01:25:16] cause on a game I didn't know about like

[01:25:19] a couple minutes ago

[01:25:21] yep

[01:25:22] I got another I can do another here

[01:25:25] I've got a couple more but I can pick one

[01:25:27] okay how about this

[01:25:28] and this is before my time too

[01:25:31] okay so that may clue you into what I'm about to talk about here

[01:25:34] I have a guess

[01:25:35] but

[01:25:37] when consoles were made people forget this

[01:25:40] cause people talk about ports and stuff

[01:25:41] consoles were essentially made for arcade ports

[01:25:44] that's why the first consoles were Pong machines

[01:25:46] it's literally what they were called

[01:25:48] and like you know like

[01:25:49] and then Atari 2600 comes out

[01:25:52] in 1977

[01:25:53] kind of changes the game with like

[01:25:55] I know right and then

[01:25:58] yeah it's like 10 yeah definitely

[01:26:00] I'm hitting my 60th birthday right now

[01:26:02] yeah

[01:26:04] yeah it's just um but yeah that happens

[01:26:06] and then of course

[01:26:08] what's the biggest game of the day

[01:26:09] Pac-Man that has to be ported to 2600

[01:26:12] right they did

[01:26:13] but oh boy

[01:26:15] it wasn't good

[01:26:17] at all it was a notoriously

[01:26:19] shitty port of Pac-Man

[01:26:21] and this is the height of Pac-Man fever

[01:26:23] came out in 1982

[01:26:24] so it's like you think people would just accept anything

[01:26:27] but they did not accept this

[01:26:29] this was the catalyst

[01:26:31] for the video game crash in North America

[01:26:33] was Pac-Man it started

[01:26:35] the whole ball rolling

[01:26:36] cause everyone just lost faith it's like well this sucks

[01:26:39] you know

[01:26:40] that's what happened

[01:26:42] people forget that now with Rack but it's true

[01:26:44] but you know what's crazy

[01:26:46] it's the best selling 2600 game

[01:26:48] yes that's the thing so many people

[01:26:50] bought it and that's how many people it pissed off

[01:26:53] so it's not a flop in terms of

[01:26:55] like nobody bought it

[01:26:56] it's a flop in terms of reception

[01:26:58] in fact that oh god

[01:27:00] Pac-Man is finally coming home

[01:27:02] what the fuck is this shit

[01:27:04] like the first example of like

[01:27:06] a critical failure

[01:27:08] you know though I don't

[01:27:10] know if there were video game critics

[01:27:12] for 2600 games there probably was

[01:27:13] there probably were there's probably some zines

[01:27:16] out there that were like you know doing

[01:27:18] some fucking nerds

[01:27:19] some nerd magazine

[01:27:22] that is some nerd shit

[01:27:23] oh dude that would have been

[01:27:25] my that would have been if I actually was at age back then

[01:27:28] dude that would have been me

[01:27:29] I would have been all over that shit

[01:27:34] and for the video game crash

[01:27:35] people tend to put the blame on the other game

[01:27:37] I was thinking you're gonna say ET

[01:27:39] because ET did fame

[01:27:41] but that game was a

[01:27:43] but that game was a like critical

[01:27:45] failure because like they made so many

[01:27:47] copies for it and those didn't

[01:27:49] sell and people were refunding them and that's when the famous

[01:27:52] landfill happened

[01:27:53] which for years people were like

[01:27:55] was the landfill real and then we found out no it was real

[01:27:58] it was real I always

[01:28:00] believed that urban legend though I always believed

[01:28:02] in that because it was exactly something Atari would do

[01:28:04] and of course it is

[01:28:06] something to do the thing is though

[01:28:08] ET is not like a horrendous game

[01:28:10] like it may have not been what people wanted

[01:28:12] it's not like the worst obviously

[01:28:14] you could do a lot better in Atari 2600

[01:28:17] but like if you play it

[01:28:18] it's not

[01:28:20] absolutely horrendous like I think that's

[01:28:22] a misconception about it it's not like

[01:28:24] the absolute worst well it's like

[01:28:26] it was like considered the worst game of all time

[01:28:28] for a long time and I just

[01:28:30] not and just like what

[01:28:32] it was tied to and what happened to the industry

[01:28:34] I think is why people do that but yeah I've played

[01:28:37] OT and it's not a great

[01:28:39] game it's really not

[01:28:40] but you know like

[01:28:42] it's better than that like math

[01:28:44] racing game

[01:28:47] that game sucks

[01:28:49] that game fucking sucks I played that before

[01:28:51] and the Atari version of Pac-Man

[01:28:53] is not good at all

[01:28:54] no it's not good it's

[01:28:57] it's rough like how do you

[01:28:59] fuck up Pac-Man

[01:29:00] it's terrible we should

[01:29:02] the sound effects and everything

[01:29:03] but the famous story behind

[01:29:06] it is that Todd Fry who's making

[01:29:08] the game like he

[01:29:10] made it I was like a couple

[01:29:12] months or whatever and I think he had like a beta

[01:29:15] and that's what he presented to Atari

[01:29:17] he's like oh here's like my rough idea

[01:29:18] for Pac-Man 2600

[01:29:20] but over refine it and Atari just said

[01:29:22] oh no perfect and then you went what

[01:29:24] they didn't care

[01:29:25] so the version that we have is a beta

[01:29:28] like the first

[01:29:29] like the first unfinished

[01:29:31] game release

[01:29:33] basically you could you could patch this one

[01:29:35] so it was the calling to

[01:29:37] but like a million

[01:29:39] years before cool yeah and it

[01:29:41] sold as zillion copies because Pac-Man

[01:29:43] and everyone got this

[01:29:45] Pac-Man was hot shit

[01:29:46] like yeah 1982

[01:29:50] in the

[01:29:51] pre Mario world

[01:29:53] oh yeah it's crazy to think of as like Pac-Man

[01:29:55] is the guy but like

[01:29:57] but he's still very popular

[01:29:59] like you could go to

[01:30:00] any normie

[01:30:02] literally any normie and be like do you know

[01:30:04] Pac-Man is they'll probably go yeah I know

[01:30:06] Pac-Man is yeah everyone like

[01:30:08] everybody knows Pac-Man he's one of those

[01:30:10] characters that despite

[01:30:12] him not really being the biggest thing in gaming

[01:30:14] anymore he's just like he's ubiquitous

[01:30:17] yeah and I think it's just

[01:30:18] a good I think it's just a good

[01:30:21] it's just a good example of like

[01:30:23] you know we grew up in a time where

[01:30:25] arcade ports were like very much a thing

[01:30:27] obviously we don't have that anymore but

[01:30:28] in the 80s and 90s that was it man

[01:30:30] that was like the backbone of the industry

[01:30:33] whether it's Street Fighter 2

[01:30:34] whether whatever came home it was like

[01:30:36] even a huge hit on console right

[01:30:39] and well not that Street Fighter 2

[01:30:41] was bad in the arcade but you know what I'm trying to say

[01:30:42] with Pac-Man being such a big deal

[01:30:44] they had to nail it and they didn't nail

[01:30:47] it and they almost well they did

[01:30:49] they basically crashed the industry here

[01:30:50] so then yeah because

[01:30:52] consumer confidence just

[01:30:54] went through the floor and it should

[01:30:57] have you know if I if

[01:30:58] if I were the age to have

[01:31:01] played Atari back then I probably would have felt the same way

[01:31:03] so I just

[01:31:05] yeah I think that has to be

[01:31:07] the most that will the first

[01:31:08] notorious flop in history I think

[01:31:11] oh yeah

[01:31:12] yeah and it also got ports

[01:31:14] at the time to like the Intellivision

[01:31:17] Commodore 64

[01:31:18] and even the 5200

[01:31:20] yeah 5200 one isn't

[01:31:22] that bad it's not again

[01:31:24] it's not super great but it's the day it ain't that

[01:31:26] so yeah

[01:31:27] I think the first time I ever played Pac-Man was the

[01:31:30] Game Boy version because we had the Game Boy

[01:31:32] version like on a Namco museum or like

[01:31:34] no no the Game Boy

[01:31:36] cart whoa oh

[01:31:38] I was thinking the Game Boy Advance sorry

[01:31:40] yeah okay no no you're good you're good yeah

[01:31:42] that was the first time I ever played Pac-Man

[01:31:44] and it's it's weird on the

[01:31:46] game it's weird but it's a it's a decent

[01:31:48] version it's decent it's fine it doesn't

[01:31:50] give you the full screen option so zoomed

[01:31:52] in the whole time but it's interesting

[01:31:54] oh yeah it's a decent version

[01:31:55] yeah for sure so yeah Aaron's

[01:31:58] gonna play some Game Boy Pac-Man on the

[01:32:01] Nervik

[01:32:01] Amber Nick

[01:32:03] no I'm still gonna play Neo Turf Masters

[01:32:06] I just some arcade golf just sounds

[01:32:08] like just sounds like that's it man

[01:32:11] yeah yep so

[01:32:12] so I'll do another one

[01:32:14] a bit of a

[01:32:16] slightly left field pick

[01:32:18] but

[01:32:19] I think this is considered a flop

[01:32:21] I think this is considered the worst

[01:32:23] selling game from this company

[01:32:25] potentially I could be wrong on this

[01:32:28] and it is

[01:32:28] Mario and Luigi Bowser's inside story

[01:32:31] plus

[01:32:32] the remake for 3DS

[01:32:34] I forget all the extra shit the plus what

[01:32:37] Bowser Jr's journey yeah just

[01:32:40] say Bowser inside

[01:32:41] remake

[01:32:42] Bowser's inside story with 3DS

[01:32:44] yeah this was

[01:32:48] one of the weirdest

[01:32:50] things

[01:32:51] to like ever come out

[01:32:53] that I could think of like

[01:32:55] people complaining about like PS5

[01:32:57] remasters of games that you can already play

[01:32:59] I mean this is a prime example

[01:33:02] like you can play

[01:33:03] Bowser's inside story on your 3DS

[01:33:06] why remake this because this was coming

[01:33:10] off of the superstar saga remake

[01:33:11] on 3DS which is fine

[01:33:13] I prefer the GBA version

[01:33:15] that one made a little bit more

[01:33:18] sense because it's just like

[01:33:19] you can't play GBA games

[01:33:22] on a 3DS so like

[01:33:24] yeah and they never put them on the

[01:33:25] virtual console because they were

[01:33:28] like oh it's too tough to do but it's

[01:33:29] like if you had an ambassador console

[01:33:31] you gave them 10 of them what the hell are you talking

[01:33:33] about you can't do it

[01:33:35] but yeah but this came out and it was

[01:33:37] like it was in that weird time

[01:33:39] in 2017-2018

[01:33:41] where they weren't sure if

[01:33:43] the switch was gonna be the runaway success

[01:33:45] that it was like it came out the gate doing

[01:33:47] pretty well but people were

[01:33:49] kind of expecting the sales

[01:33:51] to teeter off because usually with Nintendo

[01:33:53] consoles they start strong

[01:33:55] and then they have

[01:33:57] kind of like a iffy tail like the N64

[01:33:59] or the Gamecube the Wii U

[01:34:01] like they all started good

[01:34:03] but after a while it just

[01:34:04] like pfft and I think people were kind

[01:34:06] of expecting that with the switch

[01:34:08] but it was still kind of hey but it

[01:34:10] was doing alright you know

[01:34:12] and Nintendo didn't want to completely give up

[01:34:14] on the 3DS at that point because it had only been out

[01:34:16] for a few years and people were still

[01:34:18] you know enjoying them and still getting

[01:34:20] new games so it's like why not right

[01:34:22] but by the time this came

[01:34:24] out it was what 2019

[01:34:26] yeah early 2019

[01:34:27] yeah by that point I think we had

[01:34:30] we had been like yeah the switch is a

[01:34:32] success bye bye 3DS

[01:34:34] like at that point and Nintendo

[01:34:36] never deciding to pivot

[01:34:38] this game to the switch

[01:34:40] will be one of those kind of what if

[01:34:42] things they really should have

[01:34:44] like I don't think it would improve

[01:34:47] the quality of the game because I think

[01:34:49] it's not like a great remake

[01:34:51] but putting it on switch

[01:34:52] would be like well you

[01:34:54] have a version of this game to play

[01:34:56] and maybe Alpha Dream wouldn't be fucking

[01:34:58] dead I cannot believe that

[01:35:01] I just so stupid

[01:35:03] so stupid

[01:35:05] it was such a dumb thing

[01:35:07] for Nintendo to do and I believe yeah

[01:35:08] like it's like one

[01:35:11] of the worst selling

[01:35:12] Nintendo games of all time

[01:35:15] yeah like the only thing

[01:35:17] I could think that would be comparable

[01:35:18] is what like radar scope

[01:35:21] code name steam code name steam

[01:35:23] code name steam was

[01:35:24] code name which is a great game

[01:35:27] by the way I love that game but

[01:35:28] that did not sell at all yeah

[01:35:30] no striker

[01:35:31] no one striker did really bad

[01:35:34] yeah so

[01:35:36] I don't know

[01:35:37] yeah it's just so weird man

[01:35:40] I do remember that period

[01:35:42] 1718 where like

[01:35:44] they were having their eggs

[01:35:46] in the 3DS basket still because I remember

[01:35:49] one of their first

[01:35:50] directs when after switch came out

[01:35:52] they were showing fire emblem warriors

[01:35:54] and then they showed the 3DS version

[01:35:55] I'm like oh they don't believe in this

[01:35:58] system yet there's a 3DS version

[01:36:00] of fire emblem warriors get the fuck out of here

[01:36:03] right

[01:36:04] I think they were just strikers as well

[01:36:07] mm-hmm yeah I think

[01:36:08] is they were just being cautious because

[01:36:10] they're like oh for some reason the switch it doesn't

[01:36:12] hit we can still

[01:36:14] support the 3DS because it's

[01:36:15] they had to do a lot of work to get it to

[01:36:18] the the decent

[01:36:20] sales that it got but

[01:36:21] you know they're doing a lot of work together that's also

[01:36:24] why Metroid Samus Returns was 3DS

[01:36:26] because they just didn't believe in it

[01:36:27] you know yeah that was like weirdly enough

[01:36:30] 2017 was like one of the better years

[01:36:32] for the 3DS sure was

[01:36:33] oh yeah because I got a lot of bangers

[01:36:37] Samus Returns

[01:36:38] like

[01:36:38] like a lot of stuff like yeah well for you

[01:36:42] Aaron at Yo-Kai Watch 2

[01:36:44] yeah monster hunter stories

[01:36:46] yeah pony spirits and fleshy souls

[01:36:48] yeah there was a lot

[01:36:50] of that a lot of

[01:36:51] a lot of stuff came out on the 3DS in 2017

[01:36:54] stuff that was probably like already in the works

[01:36:56] and it had like a pretty

[01:36:57] solid fucking year

[01:36:59] but by 2018 is when

[01:37:01] people were just like yeah the switch is where it's at

[01:37:03] like we're getting out of here there

[01:37:05] yeah that's where like that's when the

[01:37:07] Dragon Quest 8 3DS port came out was in

[01:37:09] 2017 mm-hmm

[01:37:10] imagine if that thing was on switch oh please I'd play

[01:37:13] that game for 100 hours again

[01:37:14] oh my god I put

[01:37:17] another 50 hours into it I think I put

[01:37:19] another 50 hours into it yeah I fucking

[01:37:21] off topic I hope

[01:37:23] that they someday

[01:37:25] fucking someday finally

[01:37:27] remake Dragon Quest 9

[01:37:29] and just take out the bottom

[01:37:31] screen shit you don't need the bottom screen

[01:37:32] there's no need for it just put a mini map

[01:37:35] on the screen like well I do know that

[01:37:37] level 5 and square

[01:37:39] they had a bit of a falling out after

[01:37:41] 9 because they made 8 and 9

[01:37:43] yeah but from what I know in the last couple

[01:37:45] years they have

[01:37:47] repaired that

[01:37:49] so and people

[01:37:50] have asked them about like wanting to do

[01:37:52] Dragon Quest 9 and they're a bit like

[01:37:54] they don't say no

[01:37:56] but they don't say yes either

[01:37:58] so but I know that Yuji Hori

[01:38:00] has said that they're not going to do any

[01:38:02] remakes until 12 is out like their main

[01:38:04] thing is getting 12 out before they remake

[01:38:06] another one even though I mean they're doing

[01:38:08] 3 but you know what I mean it's not

[01:38:10] it's not like when they ask Harada

[01:38:12] about a soul caliber and he's like

[01:38:14] ask me again in 10 years

[01:38:16] where it's like you know you know

[01:38:18] you have no shot right now

[01:38:20] yeah I think for soul caliber

[01:38:22] I think he's like he said that it's hard

[01:38:24] to vouch for that

[01:38:26] when like they already have Tekken and Tekken

[01:38:28] is doing really well so it's like why would we take

[01:38:30] resources from Tekken to make soul caliber

[01:38:32] and the last two soul calibers just did

[01:38:34] not do well at retail which is a shame

[01:38:36] yeah 5 is not great I think

[01:38:38] 6 is a little better but it just

[01:38:40] people were over it but yeah

[01:38:41] the fact that they had their eggs yeah

[01:38:43] remember what was it WarioWare Gold

[01:38:45] remember that yeah yeah

[01:38:47] they have a lot of stuff you know

[01:38:50] yeah was it when you mentioned

[01:38:51] Erin what was it not me not

[01:38:53] Metopia

[01:38:56] is Metopia the one where you go

[01:38:57] on an adventure with like 4 Mies and it's

[01:38:59] like a RPG yeah I love that

[01:39:01] yeah that came to Switch I love that game

[01:39:04] yeah I mean that's

[01:39:05] when like Ultra Sun Ultra Moon came out

[01:39:07] as well

[01:39:09] that's when the Superstar Saga

[01:39:10] remake came out like there was a lot of

[01:39:13] like bang and stuff that came out in the 3DS

[01:39:14] in 2017 but as I said by

[01:39:16] like 2018-2019

[01:39:18] people were they had moved on

[01:39:20] like the Switch was the place to be

[01:39:22] it was the new hot shit there was no need

[01:39:24] to have your 3DS anymore

[01:39:26] I mean there were still games coming out

[01:39:28] for it I think that's really those

[01:39:29] story it came out the Luigi's

[01:39:32] Mansion remake yeah on 3DS

[01:39:34] why did they put that

[01:39:36] on Switch because it was originally in 3D

[01:39:38] and they wanted to do a 3DS version finally

[01:39:40] yeah there's quite a few games

[01:39:42] from the 3DS in this era that

[01:39:44] people are like they really should have put that on Switch

[01:39:45] and I have a feeling Nintendo regrets

[01:39:48] Kirby's Extra Epic Yorn

[01:39:49] yeah what the hell I would have definitely

[01:39:52] bought that or even like Yoshi

[01:39:54] and Poochie's Woolly World

[01:39:55] yeah I played that on 3DS and that

[01:39:58] I loved it but like

[01:39:59] yeah I would have definitely bought that on

[01:40:02] Switch yeah I've got

[01:40:03] three uh

[01:40:05] three little game eronies that I'm just going to

[01:40:07] toss out for like a lightning round

[01:40:09] and I have one little tiny one too

[01:40:11] okay yeah go ahead

[01:40:13] let's do it how about Golem

[01:40:15] holy shit oh my god

[01:40:18] wow

[01:40:18] the PS2 as graphics

[01:40:21] that's an insult to the PS2

[01:40:23] that's true yeah

[01:40:25] games that gave us like Kingdom Hearts 2

[01:40:27] and Rogue Galaxy like beautiful games

[01:40:30] I literally just think like

[01:40:31] Xbox game like Blinks

[01:40:33] the Time Sweeper whatever looks better than Golem

[01:40:35] I legit think so

[01:40:37] yeah Blinks is kind of weirdly ugly

[01:40:39] yeah but I think that was about

[01:40:41] Golem oh my god dude

[01:40:43] Kevin played a little bit of Golem and he

[01:40:45] talked about it on

[01:40:47] on fine time it was a very

[01:40:49] miserable as you might think

[01:40:52] there was a lot

[01:40:53] a lot of content creators got

[01:40:55] some fucking views out of that game

[01:40:57] so it did some good

[01:40:59] ooh and then I forget

[01:41:01] the full subtitle for it but that fucking

[01:41:03] Suicide Squad game

[01:41:04] Kill the Justice League

[01:41:05] yeah they showed that one trailer for it

[01:41:07] and it was like sunset overdrive

[01:41:10] but you would just like glide through the air

[01:41:12] jump on rooftops and glide

[01:41:13] and all that goofy looter shooter shit

[01:41:16] but now it's like

[01:41:17] it's still a looter shooter live service

[01:41:20] bullshit thing but it's like

[01:41:23] kind of almost okay

[01:41:26] it was

[01:41:27] another case of a game

[01:41:28] trying to jump on a bandwagon that

[01:41:31] by the time the game was done

[01:41:32] like the bandwagon was gone

[01:41:34] and games take too long to make

[01:41:37] to bandwagon now you can't do that anymore

[01:41:39] yeah so it's like

[01:41:41] well as a continuing

[01:41:42] theme of this podcast I got into

[01:41:45] the closed beta for Suicide Squad

[01:41:48] so I

[01:41:49] have actually played the sort of

[01:41:50] pre-release version I guess like a couple

[01:41:53] months before it came out

[01:41:54] and I got to give the code to

[01:41:56] like three other people

[01:41:58] so I did and the four of us ganged up and played

[01:42:00] I was a sharp guy whatever

[01:42:01] and like the movement options are fun

[01:42:03] you can jump really high or like do this

[01:42:06] like fun gun stuff but it was just like

[01:42:08] it's like you said we play games like that

[01:42:10] we play the division too

[01:42:12] we play like other

[01:42:13] looter shooters and stuff we love Borderlands right

[01:42:16] so we're kind of into that stuff even for

[01:42:18] us Suicide Squad is like

[01:42:20] I don't know it's fine

[01:42:21] but you know not really

[01:42:23] hitting and I guess it didn't hit for anybody else either

[01:42:25] yeah if it came out like

[01:42:27] three or four years prior

[01:42:29] it probably would have done better

[01:42:30] oh my god yeah cause think about it

[01:42:33] the game that

[01:42:35] Rocksteady did before this like the big one was

[01:42:37] Arkham Knight which was 2015

[01:42:39] yeah and then they started working on this

[01:42:41] right after I mean there's that Arkham VR game

[01:42:43] damn but yeah like

[01:42:45] Arkham Knight is almost ten years old

[01:42:47] I can't believe that shit

[01:42:48] and that game still looks incredible

[01:42:50] it's one of the best looking games of all time

[01:42:52] I don't even care about the Arkham series

[01:42:53] and that game looks insane

[01:42:56] yeah and then with this games like

[01:42:58] flop ever since then people are just like

[01:43:00] is Rocksteady dead

[01:43:02] like his Warner Brothers gonna kill them

[01:43:04] and from all I know is that I guess

[01:43:06] they're still supporting

[01:43:08] Suicide Squad at least for a year

[01:43:10] I feel like they probably have to

[01:43:12] I guess Rocksteady's helping out

[01:43:14] on some I guess they're doing

[01:43:16] like a new version of Hogwarts Legacy

[01:43:18] or something so they're helping out on that

[01:43:20] which isn't a good sign

[01:43:21] but the rumor came out

[01:43:24] I think it was like a couple days

[01:43:26] yesterday or whatever that

[01:43:28] they apparently are working on a new

[01:43:30] Batman game

[01:43:33] so

[01:43:35] it's one of those that

[01:43:36] hopefully

[01:43:38] Rocksteady isn't completely dead because

[01:43:39] I think again the failure of this game is not on them

[01:43:42] they were just trying

[01:43:44] to make a game that Warner Brothers told them to make

[01:43:46] and so hopefully

[01:43:48] they get another chance to make a really good

[01:43:50] single player game like they did with the Arkham games

[01:43:52] or I mean they could have been they could

[01:43:54] pivot and do like I don't know Superman or something

[01:43:56] like if anybody could make a good

[01:43:58] Superman game I think Rocksteady could pull it off

[01:44:00] that's it'll be the first time ever I would love

[01:44:02] that to happen but you know

[01:44:03] there's been some okay ones

[01:44:05] there hasn't never been a great one

[01:44:08] true true but like

[01:44:10] with a lot of the main guys from Rocksteady

[01:44:12] leaving and that they formed a new studio

[01:44:14] and they're working on a new game

[01:44:16] who knows like the future

[01:44:17] Rocksteady is not in a good spot because of that

[01:44:20] game it's it worries me

[01:44:22] my last one is Anthem

[01:44:24] Holy

[01:44:26] ship I'm told if you play

[01:44:28] Anthem now it's pretty fucking good you guys

[01:44:29] know what I'm about to say right

[01:44:32] I played the beta

[01:44:34] version of Anthem when they all re-made a weekend

[01:44:36] about a month before it came out

[01:44:38] because I was interested look I played

[01:44:40] I played Destiny for years so I of course

[01:44:42] I was interested and me and Vin

[01:44:44] and we were like yeah it looked cool

[01:44:46] and we're like I guess

[01:44:48] it's okay we'll see what happens when it

[01:44:50] comes out and then it came out and it was a disaster

[01:44:52] and then yeah so yep

[01:44:54] I played that one too

[01:44:56] apparently it's still being supported

[01:44:58] I think or at least it's still on Game Pass

[01:45:00] you can still play it and I'm told if you play it now

[01:45:03] it's a lot better because

[01:45:04] they just give you a bunch of free shit

[01:45:06] so you could just like have some

[01:45:08] actual fun with the game which I get to

[01:45:10] do I actually want to do that at some point

[01:45:12] it's totally

[01:45:14] it's a totally okay game

[01:45:15] it's fine the environments are nice

[01:45:18] yeah I'm sure it's fine

[01:45:19] there's one thing I wanted to mention real

[01:45:22] quick just one real quick one

[01:45:23] because this is like

[01:45:26] I've never been one to care about how much

[01:45:28] a game sells because I mean whatever

[01:45:30] I mean obviously you want games you like to do

[01:45:32] well right but I remember

[01:45:34] the first time I ever got sort

[01:45:36] of punched in the gut by seeing like sales

[01:45:38] numbers when something came out

[01:45:40] and that was Killer 7

[01:45:43] that

[01:45:44] I love that game it's one of my favorite games

[01:45:46] of all time I loved that game

[01:45:48] so much I was like I remember when

[01:45:50] like there's IG an article here's the sales

[01:45:52] for the month I wonder how killer 7 did

[01:45:53] oh

[01:45:56] oh no you know and I

[01:45:58] just couldn't believe that not everyone like

[01:46:00] this super dark

[01:46:02] very bizarre very niche

[01:46:04] thing that I did right and I guess

[01:46:06] I should have you know when you're 23

[01:46:08] don't think oh everyone just must like

[01:46:10] the same thing I did I think it's cool it must

[01:46:12] be cool right obviously it's not

[01:46:14] how the world works so I just remember

[01:46:16] being like oh no

[01:46:18] nobody likes this game at all

[01:46:19] and I'm being kind of sad about it

[01:46:22] you know I wanted everyone to like it

[01:46:24] but I guess it's not for everyone to like

[01:46:26] like I remember seeing that game at the

[01:46:28] rental store when it came out and it looked

[01:46:29] really really intriguing but it was never a

[01:46:32] game that I grabbed

[01:46:34] unfortunately and I regret

[01:46:36] not giving it a shot. When it gets 5 bucks on steam or whatever get it again

[01:46:37] definitely get it for sure. Oh yeah

[01:46:40] it's definitely a game I need to actually sit

[01:46:41] down and try and yeah it's like

[01:46:43] Suda is just

[01:46:45] he's such a weird guy you know

[01:46:47] that like it takes

[01:46:49] a very specific idea for

[01:46:52] a game of his to like really break through

[01:46:54] you know because a bunch of games that he

[01:46:55] did before like killer 7

[01:46:58] even some games after like it wasn't really until

[01:46:59] No More Heroes when people learned who Suda

[01:47:01] was because No More Heroes was

[01:47:03] pushed pretty hard in the Wii days

[01:47:05] oh yeah because Nintendo probably did the shit out of it

[01:47:08] they marketed the shit out of it

[01:47:09] it was published by Ubisoft at the first time which is crazy

[01:47:12] and it was being like oh it's like

[01:47:13] an open world game on the Wii and it's like

[01:47:15] that's not really what makes that good though

[01:47:17] it's not really what it is you know me and Aaron

[01:47:20] actually me and Aaron actually talked

[01:47:21] about that because Ubisoft published

[01:47:23] Grandia 2 on Dreamcast here

[01:47:25] it's like hey remember when Ubisoft used to publish

[01:47:27] stuff from Japan remember that

[01:47:29] you know very weird

[01:47:32] yeah so

[01:47:33] yeah yeah

[01:47:35] then that lollipop chain saw remaster happened

[01:47:37] and yeah well

[01:47:39] I'll be waiting for that to come to PlayStation

[01:47:42] Excellentials or whatever I don't know

[01:47:43] from what from what I've been

[01:47:45] told if you have an original 360

[01:47:47] PS3 copy just play that yeah

[01:47:49] that's what I heard don't even bother

[01:47:52] but Suda was not involved

[01:47:54] in that and I kind of get why

[01:47:55] I did not have good vibes about that

[01:47:57] from the jump so

[01:47:59] when I heard Suda and James Gunn weren't involved

[01:48:02] I'm like there's no pointless

[01:48:03] yeah don't bother

[01:48:04] yeah what other flops do we have

[01:48:08] that's it for me that's all I got

[01:48:10] okay well I could

[01:48:12] knock off a couple

[01:48:14] ones let's see

[01:48:16] we have

[01:48:17] well we talked about Beyond Good and Evil

[01:48:19] you know that famously did not do well

[01:48:22] commercially but it's become a cult classic

[01:48:24] games like Conker's Bad Fur Day

[01:48:26] oh yeah obviously did not

[01:48:28] Nintendo didn't want it to sell so it didn't

[01:48:30] really I didn't know that did badly

[01:48:32] it didn't sell very well

[01:48:34] really okay yeah

[01:48:36] did not know that brutal legends

[01:48:38] that that's a game I remember that was

[01:48:40] like a weird one that didn't sell

[01:48:42] but to be fair that game was kind of a

[01:48:44] bait and switch yeah

[01:48:46] which was not Tim Schaefer's fault

[01:48:48] like he wanted to tell people but EA

[01:48:49] was like preventing him from telling people what

[01:48:52] the game really was

[01:48:54] but you know that that's a whole thing

[01:48:55] yeah that's all like a bait switch from the marketing

[01:48:58] yeah which is a shame because that game is

[01:49:00] really cool I like it oh die katana

[01:49:03] oh my god

[01:49:03] now that's a flop right there

[01:49:05] oh yeah it's gonna make you as a bitch

[01:49:09] die katana

[01:49:09] I've never played it I would like to play that

[01:49:11] sometime it's not a good game

[01:49:13] oh I'm sure I just need to

[01:49:15] I just need to see it in 64 and PC

[01:49:18] I want to see it yeah what's

[01:49:20] crazy is the best version of that game

[01:49:21] is the oh no

[01:49:23] did that ever come out

[01:49:25] oh yeah there was there was a yeah the

[01:49:27] Game Boy Color version I remember that

[01:49:29] existing that's that's the best version

[01:49:31] of it because it's a Zelda clone

[01:49:33] yeah I think Mike talked about that on the

[01:49:36] I think the ports episode I'm pretty sure

[01:49:38] yeah yeah yeah man

[01:49:39] all it all comes back around

[01:49:42] yeah and then

[01:49:43] yeah it was a bunch of oh Marvelous Capcom infinite

[01:49:45] oh lord that is a

[01:49:47] oh I can't believe that I didn't think of that myself

[01:49:49] I'm not great I'm great with the Street Fighter 3

[01:49:51] but like yeah that was a dump

[01:49:53] yeah that was a dumpster fire I remember

[01:49:55] that came out absolute dumpster fire

[01:49:57] like Skylanders

[01:49:59] flopped really hard because that was a good

[01:50:01] idea that just got oh yeah

[01:50:03] hard super quick I feel

[01:50:05] like Aaron must have been a Skylanders person

[01:50:09] we Skylanders person

[01:50:10] no no never

[01:50:12] really I don't know for some

[01:50:14] reason I would thank you for a Skyland

[01:50:16] being a being into that I don't know why

[01:50:18] and what's it was crazy is like

[01:50:19] not Skylanders they're working

[01:50:21] work less now by the way yeah

[01:50:23] two sides yeah and what's crazy

[01:50:26] is like when the Microsoft acquisition

[01:50:28] happened people were trying to say oh maybe

[01:50:29] they'll bring back Skylanders I'm like where are you

[01:50:31] fucking people saying like

[01:50:33] that shit to die yeah we don't

[01:50:36] we don't need that to come back yeah they're never bringing

[01:50:38] that back

[01:50:39] let's see outside of that I mean there was a bunch

[01:50:41] of failed consoles but

[01:50:44] you know that's its own episode entirely

[01:50:46] oh yeah that might be a good one

[01:50:47] one of which I host a podcast

[01:50:50] about another one

[01:50:52] of which I wrote a pretty good blog about

[01:50:53] yeah

[01:50:56] go check out our stuff

[01:50:58] yeah there's quite a few

[01:50:59] gaming flops out there there's plenty

[01:51:02] we didn't even talk about so

[01:51:03] yeah who knows we might have to do part two

[01:51:06] sometime listeners

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